Bleach EP 247 Discussion

[Cobra826]

SUB

http://www.myanimebucket.com/bleach-episode-247/

[espadaboyzz]

Great... but I'm not sure what happened is this episode. Cant wait for the sub... i think this is very interesting episode.

[extrememangalover]

i don't get it... is muramasa yama's zanpato or did he just absorbed his flame shikai???

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

i don't get it... is muramasa yama's zanpato or did he just absorbed his flame shikai???

Ryuujinjaka betrayed Yamamoto, we didn't see Ryuujinjaka yet.

[benelori]

From what I got is that Muramasa needed Ichigo's strength to persuade Ryuujin Jakka to fight by his side...
So we will get a Ryuujin Jakka vs. Hyourinmaru in a few weeks that should be interesting...

[obamamania]

Damn, looks like Bleach is over, Muramasa can't possibly lose now. O wait, this is Bleach, what was I thinking.

[DARK]

So the seal is for Yamamoto to seal Ryujin Jakka rather than for Muramasa to seal them both?
Muramasa's expression when Ryujin Jakka burns Sogyo no Kotowari and Katen Kyokatsu was priceless.
And we're now getting to the climax.

[Elite_user]

what about byakuya and uhonana

byakugan, must have known this was going to happen and secretly planted himself on the inside in order to destroy muramasa after he got ryujin jakka

[DARK]

Damn, looks like Bleach is over, Muramasa can't possibly lose now. O wait, this is Bleach, what was I thinking.

Only Aizen is godly, but Muramasa is narrowing the gap for a close second.
But we all know that since this IS filler, he HAS to be defeated.

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

From what I got is that Muramasa needed Ichigo's strength to persuade Ryuujin Jakka to fight by his side...
So we will get a Ryuujin Jakka vs. Hyourinmaru in a few weeks that should be interesting...

It was a lie on Muramasa's part.
The truth is that Yamamoto sealed himself away so that way Muramasa couldn't have Ryujinjaka or his knowledge.
Yama made the barrier, Muramasa needed Ichigo to breat it.
This explains why every time someone approached the barrier Yama released his Zanpaktou.
Apparently next week is Hyourinmaru vs. Ryuujinjaka

[benelori]

It was a lie on Muramasa's part.
The truth is that Yamamoto sealed himself away so that way Muramasa couldn't have Ryujinjaka or his knowledge.
Yama made the barrier, Muramasa needed Ichigo to breat it.
This explains why every time someone approached the barrier Yama released his Zanpaktou.
Apparently next week is Hyourinmaru vs. Ryuujinjaka

I see thanx...my japanese is a bit poor...I understood everything except the most important part when they talked about Muramasa's true plan...at least I thought I understood that,too...it's pretty hard when people are not speaking the polite form...thanx again

[rambokid]

Ryujin Jakka's power is ridicolous lol, without any effort Muramasa destroyed everything around him lol

[LoS]

I always knew Muramasa was a parasitic type.

Now what happened to Minazuki, Byakuya, and Senbonzakura?

[obamamania]

Only Aizen is godly, but Muramasa is narrowing the gap for a close second.
But we all know that since this IS filler, he HAS to be defeated.

You thought I was serious? :facepalm

[DARK]

Finally the plot is moving! :D
Next episode will be good, but I'm not fond of seeing Ichigo's friends again. I'd prefer that they stay out of this filler arc.

[obamamania]

Muramasa has gillian shoes...dunno if that had been mentioned before.

[vizardichigo]

Damn...I love this Arc all over again...Great little plot twist...All we need to know is what is Byakuya's objective and why is Byakuya pretending to help them and we will have all the pieces put together...Really nice episode..This is how a filler Arc is supposed to be, unlike the horror that is the Naruto fillers..

[DARK]

Damn...I love this Arc all over again...Great little plot twist... This is how a filler Arc is supposed to be, unlike the horror that is the Naruto fillers..

Muramasa pulled an Aizen by tricking the Shinigami/zanpakuto that he started a rebellion, only wanting to seize Ryujin Jakka.
The last two filler arcs in Bleach weren't great either. This is one of the few filler arcs in any anime series that I can tolerate watching.

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

http://www.bleachget.com/watch/386-bleach-episode-247-english-subbed/
Translation is out

I see thanx...my japanese is a bit poor...I understood everything except the most important part when they talked about Muramasa's true plan...at least I thought I understood that,too...it's pretty hard when people are not speaking the polite form...thanx again

Nah, my Japanese is poor as well. I just guessed based on the situation and the little japanese I know from watching anime for such along time

[CBlitz]

well I hope this means that the Zanpakutou will team up with the Shinigami now

[vizardichigo]

Muramasa pulled an Aizen by tricking the Shinigami/zanpakuto that he started a rebellion, only wanting to seize Ryujin Jakka.
The last two filler arcs in Bleach weren't great either. This is one of the few filler arcs in any anime series that I can tolerate watching.

Well the Lurichiyo and Amagai Arc sucked hard, but i liked the Bounts..They had some interesting characters, some cool abilities and some good fights..It went a bit too long and it ended sucky but all in all i thought it was good, but this one thus far is the best filler i have seen in Bleach...Ryujin Jakka is simply amazing. To blow away Ukitake and Kyoraku's zanpaktou so easily :o. They are in trouble now..

[obamamania]

Lol Unohana's sword is so enigmatic, it somehow was missing in this whole ordeal.

[espadaboyzz]

I wonder what happened to ukitake and shunsui zanpakutou? Is they burn alive and vanish just like that? Where's unohana zanpakutou?

[LoS]

Ryujin Jakka is simply amazing. To blow away Ukitake and Kyoraku's zanpaktou so easily :o. They are in trouble now..

good thing it isn't canon, otherwise it would not give credence to Ukitake and Kyoraku's respective strengths all things considered, they did face off against a Ryujin Jakka weilding Yamamoto.

[Jamil2009]

Fantastic episode! Great work KT!!!!

Hey, I just realised that the Zan at the very beginning (when the voice explains all about Zans) is Tensa Zangetsu. I'm so smart :)

[darkdana666]

Fantastic episode! Great work KT!!!!

I could be wrong, but I think KT has little to absolutely nothing to do with filler arcs...
I totally agree that this is, surprisingly enough, a filler arc that is actually fun to watch. Even though it's making some plot holes, but that is kinda what filler always do.
Fillers exist to make money: push new episodes to TV stations and sell low quality merchandise, not to benefit the story... :p

[R4zr]

Even Yoruichi and Ukitake resorted to Shakkaho. I'm so sick of this, as former captain and captain they should know better than that.

But aside from that, i can't wait to see the human form of Ryujin Jakka.

[Jamil2009]

good thing it isn't canon, otherwise it would not give credence to Ukitake and Kyoraku's respective strengths all things considered, they did face off against a Ryujin Jakka weilding Yamamoto.

Muramasa had mentioned that Sogyou no Kotowari, Minazuki and Katen Kyoukotsu combined were just as powerful as Ryuujin Jaka; and as Minazuki wasn't there Ryuujin Jaka was able to make quick work of SNK and KK :p.

Another thing is that I think this filler should be analysed completely independent of the main story. This filler brings to the fore the seperate individuality of the Shinigami and their Zan. So even though Kyouraku and Ukitake were able to stand against Yamamoto (though the extent to which they were able to defend themselves is not known) it wouldn't be quite the same when it is SNK and KK vs. Ryuujin Jaka.
[hr]

I could be wrong, but I think KT has little to absolutely nothing to do with filler arcs...
I totally agree that this is, surprisingly enough, a filler arc that is actually fun to watch. Even though it's making some plot holes, but that is kinda what filler always do.
Fillers exist to make money: push new episodes to TV stations and sell low quality merchandise, not to benefit the story... :p

Oh, my bad :facepalm. So, to ammend my post of appreciation, GREAT WORK...who am I thanking again :blink? Well, whoever it is, GREAT WORK and more episodes like it (and 241, ofcourse :D).

[CBlitz]

also Muramasa is confirmed to be Lelouche, he even said Keikaku Doori rofl

best filler villain ever

[DARK]

Even Yoruichi and Ukitake resorted to Shakkaho. I'm so sick of this, as former captain and captain they should know better than that.

But aside from that, i can't wait to see the human form of Ryujin Jakka.

I'm tired of characters using Kido to fill up time. At least Yoruichi uses some other Kido along with Shakkaho.
I believe we all wanted to see RJ this episode, but apparently Muramasa's grinching face while burning the zanpakuto spirits alive obscured his screentime.

[Moogle Mango]

Was someone trying to mimic Sephiroth with the going into the flames? :p

[Zatono]

also Muramasa is confirmed to be Lelouche, he even said Keikaku Doori rofl

best filler villain ever

Win post is win.

Also, did anyone find Muramasa's face just a BIT weird when he was blocking Ichigo's GT? You know, where that one eye is half way closed, and the other is fully opened?

[Revolation]

I could be wrong, but I think KT has little to absolutely nothing to do with filler arcs...
I totally agree that this is, surprisingly enough, a filler arc that is actually fun to watch. Even though it's making some plot holes, but that is kinda what filler always do.
Fillers exist to make money: push new episodes to TV stations and sell low quality merchandise, not to benefit the story... :p

KT has stated he is more involved in the anime than a normal mangaka(manga author) is. and he designs all the characters for the anime and fillers he says. but in this arc he said he was more involved than even before. obviously he likes this arc too

[espadaboyzz]

Actually i'm confuse with something.. Muramasa said that he materialize the zanpakutou for his plan to success to break the Yamaji barrier. But, in 1st episode i think he already materialize Sogyou no Kotowari, Minazuki and Katen Kyoukotsu before he capture yamaji. So, who's actually capture Yamaji? It's really make me confuse....someone please help me. Tq.

[Trotter]

Great episode IMO. Ryuujin Jakka releasing that massive explosion and Sougyo no Katowari being burned up was kinda emotional when they were torn from each others hands.

[Xiraiya]

This episode just crapped on the last 300 Chapters of Bleach Manga, It was so brilliant, Kubo needs to make this canon.

[DARK]

This episode just crapped on the last 300 Chapters of Bleach Manga, It was so brilliant, Kubo needs to make this canon.

Kubo tried to make the Menos Forest canon in the manga, but couldn't add it in because of time constraints. I wouldn't go so far as to say this arc is "brilliant," but it's obviously the best filler in Bleach. That's not saying much, though.

[obamamania]

It is saying much, because you used the words best and filler in one sentence. It may not be canon, but that doesn't make it less interesting. If Muramasa ends up being someone we know's zanpakuto from the past that's already dead, then it because partially canon but still has no effect on the manga. I wouldn't use it in any debates, but I'd accept it as an unimportant truth.

[Kravmaga]

Holy internets! Seriously?! Yorouichi used a krav-maga move! At least something that looks exactly like it. I'm standing up and there's a brick on my chair!
That's so awesome!

[Jamil2009]

Actually i'm confuse with something.. Muramasa said that he materialize the zanpakutou for his plan to success to break the Yamaji barrier. But, in 1st episode i think he already materialize Sogyou no Kotowari, Minazuki and Katen Kyoukotsu before he capture yamaji. So, who's actually capture Yamaji? It's really make me confuse....someone please help me. Tq.

What I think happened is that Muramasa had always wanted Ryuujin Jaka's powers on his side but knew that he would NEVER be able to get to Yama without lots of help. So before he even approached Yama (and remember Muramasa had also mentioned that he had anticipated Yama putting up a barrier to deny anyone access to his inner world) he recruited all the powerful Zans (captain-class) and then approached Yama with the three top captain-class Zans.

I don't think (and as Muramasa mentioned) that the rebellion was the reason for materialising the Zans. Muramasa wanted back-up against Yama and only resorted to a the fake rebellion because of Yama's barrier; sort of like a Plan B to buy more time where Plan A was to get Ryuujin Jaka at the first try.

Hope this helped.:D

[darkdana666]

KT has stated he is more involved in the anime than a normal mangaka(manga author) is. and he designs all the characters for the anime and fillers he says. but in this arc he said he was more involved than even before. obviously he likes this arc too

I stand corrected! :amuse

[Lunatic Scream]

Byakuya and Ichigo should have realized this the moment Ryujin Jakka's flames struck out at anyone who approached the barrier. However, it only hit me about partway through the episode, so all in all it was a decent twist. I'm curious to see what Ryujin Jakka looks like! It's... overwhelmingly powerful.

The moment I saw Katen Kyokotsu and Sogyo no Kotowari get angry at Muramasa for his betrayal, I knew they were finished. Conveniently, this will prevent Ukitake and Shunsui from fighting again in this arc.

Biiiiig question mark goes to Minazuki for still being creepily mysterious. Wildcard? Still aligned with Muramasa? I think the animators might be waiting in anticipation of Unohana having some action in the manga so they have some direction to take with Minazuki. On the note of Minazuki, Chojiro was said to have cardiac arrest... given her medical prowess, if that were related to Minazuki's power, it's pretty formiable. Probably not something to be revealed in a filler though.

[Galbert-Kun]

Can't wait for ep 251 on 12/22. sure its a long time away, but its probably the most looked forward to ep of this arc so far aside from "Dragon of Ice and Dragon of Flame! The Strongest Showdown!" I hope this episode is the opposite of any episode with "fierce fight" attached to it

[DARK]

It is saying much, because you used the words best and filler in one sentence. It may not be canon, but that doesn't make it less interesting. If Muramasa ends up being someone we know's zanpakuto from the past that's already dead, then it because partially canon but still has no effect on the manga. I wouldn't use it in any debates, but I'd accept it as an unimportant truth.

When compared with the likes of the Bount Arc and the Amagai Arc, both of which were really terrible, that's why I say that this arc being the best filler is not saying much.

[ganjabuss]

complete crap...crappy animation...completely out of proportion drawing and power lvl...not to mention plot ripped off from 'on-going FKT battle' and 'sealed sword frenzy'......cant believe what kinda crap animation they are airing in the name of filler...bount arc and amagai arc was thousand times better....oh yeah ichigo can break in yamaji's barrier when three zanpukto couldn't...but now he cant get past some flame even with his mask+bankai...he's slower than hanatarou in this ep.

[ninjaman]

omg wow how retarded is orihime???