Naruto is gonna lose Kyuubi 100%

[rambokid]

Well, we know in order to break the seal and let the Jyubi come back to life the Kyuubi is required, so the question if will Jyubi resurrect?

The answer is obvious, yes.

In EVERY manga/anime/movie/comic book/tv series there is an imbalanced/terrifying/undefeatable/godlike ancient enemy sealed somewhere it's ALWAYS and ALWAYS brought back to life.

King Piccolo in Dragonball, Majin Bu, and Cell in DBZ, Luud in GT
Sylar in Heroes, the Fallen in the 2nd transformers movie, but there are a lot of other examples i dont remember right now.

so the jyubi is going to be unveiled, at the end, and that means naruto is going to lose kyuubi before the end of the manga, and survive somehow

[Gingitsune]

Either that or the bijuu will be fixed back together as Juubi within Naruto's seal, say, because of an interrupted bijuu removal or something.

[Franckie]

Removing Kyuubi makes the process of Naruto mastering his bijuu completely pointless. Naruto losing Kyuubi also makes him weaker. Take into consideration Naruto's chakra amount. Naruto's base chakra is 4x Kakashi's amount. With Kyuubi, Naruto's chakra is 100x Kakashi's. That's a different of 25 right there. Furthermore, Naruto can no longer use his own unique version of Sennin Mode and "that jutsu"; he will also lose his newfound immunity to genjutsu.


so the jyubi is going to be unveiled, at the end, and that means naruto is going to lose kyuubi before the end of the manga, and survive somehow

There is also the possibility that the Juubi will be revived with the 7 bijuu Akatsuki already possess. This notion is a possibility if you factor in Kishi's neverending trend of gimping things.

[juUnior]

Naruto will not lose the Kyuubi - it was in the beginning like that from the very instance you start reading manga, till the end it will be. If any, it will be Killer Bee which will be killed in the process of bijuu removal, and Madara will do Jyuubi maybe from the 8 bijuus, or 8 and a half - with the remaining "somewhere" Kyuubi yin <or yang xd> chakra :x Naruto definitely will not lose Kyuubi, that's all there is to it, really.

[ashher]

I am hoping that naruto will indeed lose kyuubi.i will quote here an earlier post of mine (that i put in my sig too):



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Nah, i would like for Naruto to contain Kyuubi until he is an old man. I am not a fat of the idea of Jyuubi because it is like kicking Kyuubi in the nuts after having him as the most destructive force in the manga for 446 chapters

Also, I am not i the mood for Kyuubi to be extracted just to sit through another resurrection no jutsu.

none of us would like to see another resurrection jutsu,i am sure of that.but the question is can naruto willingly extract 9tails from himself without dying.

u see,10 tails is the 1st villain in this shinobi world.Because of minato's sacrifice i always felt that its ok to use 9tails as a weapon till now,but now bizuus are seeming much more interesting than just weapons.

that's why i think it will be good if 10tails gets unleashed actually.(of course without naruto going dead).

right now the villains are the sharingan users,which is something manifested from 10tails....i think it will be lovely if sasuke gets so strong with his sharingan that he can control 10 tails....in that case,he will be most amazing antagonist.(of course to be converted ultimately)

and that will push naruto to become even more amazing than rs.

but the first question is which line of approach may logically allow such incidence like naruto willingly giving up the weapon his father sacrificed his life for without dying himself.i think it can be something like:to complete that jutsu that minato couldn't finish,naruto will have to get 9tails out of his body without dying,and of course he won't mean saskue to have that,but perhaps sasuke will come up with his own plan and cease that for himself and later on become jinchuriki of 10tails.

that way sasuke and naruto can really surpass all before them:10tails,rs,madara,1st,4th.

[Gingitsune]

For the moment, there is only half of Kyuubi sealed into Naruto, maybe that will allow his soul to remain in his body, the other jinchuuriki had the full beast inside. Even if Kyuubi is to be put together whole again, the yin part may not have been there long enough to fuse with Naruto's soul.

[zagorka]

I am hoping that naruto will indeed lose kyuubi.i will quote here an earlier post of mine (that i put in my sig too):If this happens then it is quite arguable that it would ruin a major part of the story-line. I'm not going to go into specifics, but if Naruto loses the Kyuubi, then Sasuke better lose the sharingan. And Neji and Hinata their byakugan. Do you get it? Removing a major part of what constitutes Naruto's character is a huge problem. Naruto would also have to die, only to be resurrected. No one wants that. And all of the time Naruto has spent on controlling the Kyuubi would have been a waste, in which we would have to question Kishi's ability to write a descent story. It's like removing the Saiyan DNA out of Goku to create the best villain. While it's been done to Gaara, he's not a main character. Naruto is. It's the wrong choice in my opinion.

[nWoJester]

The fact that someone stated he only has the amount of Chakra due to the Kyuubi. This is not true. His chakra is his and he can do Senin mode and 1000 Shadow Clones on his own. He never taps into the Kyuubi chakra to do so. I've been discussing the fact that Bee will never lose the 8 Tails until teaching Naruto how to control his Kyuubi and master the same modes that the 8 Tails and Bee use with full conciousness. Without the 8 Tails, Bee could not protect himself against the 9 Tails when Nartuot loses it. Look what happened to Jirayai when trying to crack it a little bit. Due to this, I think Naruto will not lose the kyuubi. What is the point of keeping Bee alive with the 8 Tails, mastering the 9 tails, just to lose it.

[Gingitsune]

Gaara also have an incredible chakra reserve on his own, which is much better than older his siblings (as confirm with the databooks) and Killer Bee doesn't seem to be that bad. Coincidence? I think not.

Also, Naruto could lose the nine tails to gain the ten tails later in the story (after Madara mess up with his stupid plan, like he always do).

[rambokid]

it would be stupid if the jyubi power was splitted into 9 tailed demons, and with 7 only you can revive it, isnt it?

imo Naruto is gonna loose Kyuubi and rely on his strengths only

also the perfect control Killer Bee has on the 8tails is because the 8tails is a kind beast and they are friends. The Kyuubi is evil and is nowhere near to be friend of someone, and it's not only matter of jinchukiri's ability to control, it's a matter of the help that the tailed beast give to his master in order to control itself

[mr.danly]

it would be stupid if the jyubi power was splitted into 9 tailed demons, and with 7 only you can revive it, isnt it?

imo Naruto is gonna loose Kyuubi and rely on his strengths only

also the perfect control Killer Bee has on the 8tails is because the 8tails is a kind beast and they are friends. The Kyuubi is evil and is nowhere near to be friend of someone, and it's not only matter of jinchukiri's ability to control, it's a matter of the help that the tailed beast give to his master in order to control itself

well technically only half of the Kyuubi's chakra was sealed within Naruto, but he appears to have full access to the Kyuubi's abilities. So it could be possible that the juubi could be revived with 8 and a half tails or something like that, and Naruto doesn't need to lose Kyuubi. I do agree that would be kind of stupid, but the manga seems to be setting up such a situation.

[benelori]

I don't think the jyuubi will be resurrected...becuz jyuubi is a terrifying beast and only somebody with the level of knowledge of the Six Paths Sage would be able to defeat it...I think at this point in the manga nobody is at that level...
I think the manga is not built on the Jyuubi destruction thing...of course the war is about the bijuus, but it has another side,too which I think it's more important...
Kishi said that in part 2 he will concentrate on the theme of bonds...
So the war now is about defeat Madara/Jyuubi whatever I'll call this the fight part of the manga...but the "Stop the hatred"/"Save friends" it's the bond part of the manga...and I think this is the main theme...
The appearance of the Jyuubi would concentrate the manga on the fight part, becuz then the good duys only goal will be the destroying of Jyuubi, thus setting aside bonds, relationships and their development

Also I think Kyuubi is an essential part of Naruto...its presence forged Naruto in what he is today, so in maintaining the character named Naruto, Kyuubi is required IMO...also Bee is still running around and will probably meet naruto one day...and the bee naruto combo is quite a deadly one I think

[thefreak]

Well We all knew that QB is going to be extracted from naruto. The question is WHEN?

[zagorka]

Well We all knew that QB is going to be extracted from naruto. The question is WHEN?We all know? No we don't...

[rambokid]

I don't think the jyuubi will be resurrected...

i stated that in EVERY FREAKING movie/manga/series etc there is a hidden sealed WTFPWNING monster is always and always released, or the author wouldnt introduce it at all, so it will be resurrected sooner or later


becuz jyuubi is a terrifying beast and only somebody with the level of knowledge of the Six Paths Sage would be able to defeat it...

well until Sasuke isnt dead there is the hope he comes back to the good path, and Sasuke + Naruto fighting together can reach the strength of the rikodou sennin, since they are said to be the descendant of the 2 sons (or they werent his son, whatever they was) who Rikodou sennin entrusted with his power (half each)

[SuperSaiyaMan]

i stated that in EVERY FREAKING movie/manga/series etc there is a hidden sealed WTFPWNING monster is always and always released, or the author wouldnt introduce it at all, so it will be resurrected sooner or later.
The Jubi won't be released. Hell considering Madara's success rate, I'd expect him to lose the Bijuu soon.

[benelori]

i stated that in EVERY FREAKING movie/manga/series etc there is a hidden sealed WTFPWNING monster is always and always released, or the author wouldnt introduce it at all, so it will be resurrected sooner or later

Naruto might actually be different from all those manga...and judging from the fact that kishi did indeed bring new elements to the manga, U can't tell if UR prediction is correct...


well until Sasuke isnt dead there is the hope he comes back to the good path, and Sasuke + Naruto fighting together can reach the strength of the rikodou sennin, since they are said to be the descendant of the 2 sons (or they werent his son, whatever they was) who Rikodou sennin entrusted with his power (half each)

Yes, but if U rely on their relationship which goes back to Rikudo, then U should consider the possibility that naruto and sasuke will continue the conflict of the two brothers...madara is after this,too...
I'm not stating that I'm sure of what will happen to kyuubi or jyuubi...but as I said the character naruto would suck without kyuubi and without the monster he should master...and once he masters it...be sure that sage mode and kyuubi mode will be the end of the world against all sharingan users(sasuke madara, it doesn't matter)...

[ashher]

If this happens then it is quite arguable that it would ruin a major part of the story-line. I'm not going to go into specifics, but if Naruto loses the Kyuubi, then Sasuke better lose the sharingan. And Neji and Hinata their byakugan. Do you get it?

i must say that its in no way a problem for naruto to become the main character.the main character isn't defined by his power,rather his mentality and attitude and even these are subject to logical change.also kyuubi constitutes nothing of naruto as a character (i mean his traits as a human is has got nothing to do with kyuubi).even without kyuubi he will be the same naruto that we know and love.


And all of the time Naruto has spent on controlling the Kyuubi would have been a waste, in which we would have to question Kishi's ability to write a descent story

its clear that kyuubi sealed within naruto for completing that jutsu and as long as that is done,its not a problem.

Removing a major part of what constitutes Naruto's character is a huge problem. Naruto would also have to die, only to be resurrected. No one wants that.

i wonder if you have even read this in my previous post that u were supposedly answering to:


but the first question is which line of approach may logically allow such incidence like naruto willingly giving up the weapon his father sacrificed his life for without dying himself.i think it can be something like:to complete that jutsu that minato couldn't finish,naruto will have to get 9tails out of his body without dying,and of course he won't mean saskue to have that,but perhaps sasuke will come up with his own plan and cease that for himself and later on become jinchuriki of 10tails.

[MegaX]

i must say that its in no way a problem for naruto to become the main character.the main character isn't defined by his power,rather his mentality and attitude and even these are subject to logical change.also kyuubi constitutes nothing of naruto as a character (i mean his traits as a human is has got nothing to do with kyuubi).even without kyuubi he will be the same naruto that we know and love.

Well in a way, yes. On the other hand, the fact that Naruto is a jinchūriki has been a defining trait of his character. There are only a handful of ways to handle that situation without it coming off as an asspull.


its clear that kyuubi sealed within naruto for completing that jutsu and as long as that is done,its not a problem.Also just because you are too immature

Depends on why the Kyūbi is needed in the first place. Is there something about the the nature of the Kyūbi's chakra? Is it simply the vast quantity? Depending on how Kishimoto answers that question, removing the Kyūbi might be a stupid decision.


(sorry for this word but really your view of character seems to constitute of nothing but the sum of the their powers/abilities/jutsus and that is immature) to even get to the core of the character naruto,does not mean kishi writing something you don't like would make him a bad writer.

Was the ad hominem necessary? (Hint: the answer is no).

[Bonfire01]

There is already a problem with Madara's plan to revive the 10 tails.... the storyline clearly states Naruto is missing half a Kyubi. Not just half the chakra in general, but half the chakra which constitutes an entire aspect of the 9 tails.

Bearing in mind that the 9 tails is meant to be the most powerful of the 9 tailed beasts (I don't think we know the power difference each extra tail gives but Naruto's fight with the released one tail when he fought Gaara suggests that the 1 tailed beast is miles behind the 9 tails since Naruto + gama beat it where the 9 tails was too much for Minato (alledgedly, possibly, probably the strongest kage ever).

So half of the 9 tails chakra is a LOT of missing chakra to make up for. I don't see how he can get the rest out of the shinigami's belly so it would take a fair sized leap of faith to get the 10 tails up and running. If you aren't going to remake the 10 tails I don't see much point in yanking the fox out of Naruto.

I understand the arguement that, having been introduced, we might expect to see the 10 tails resurrected as the final bad guy, however, the ten tails could just be a useful plot device to give urgency and importance to the 4th great ninja war.

So although I won't say it's imposible that the 9 tails gets removed from Naruto I think it's unlikely.

[evilnarutosm]

Yeah, naruto will lose Kyuubi but earlier Kyuubi give him super healing.
And Later Kishi can give Naruto Rinnengan from will(Nagato decision and ask Rikkudo to create next new Rinnengan?) and Rikkudo Sennin agree and Naruto with Rinnengan vs Juubi and Madara or Sasuke nad the END.

Or Naruto and Sasuke will sacrifice themselves for ressurect Rikkudo Sennin. God of World kill Jyuubi and Madara finally forever!.
Yeah

[KiSwordsman]

Either that or the bijuu will be fixed back together as Juubi within Naruto's seal, say, because of an interrupted bijuu removal or something.

Im gonna have to agree with this. I could see something like this happening towards the end

[Kaiten]

Won't Naruto die if the kyuubi is removed? All of the other jinchuuriki did. He'd need to have someone resurrect him if it is removed.

[3c]

Won't Naruto die if the kyuubi is removed? All of the other jinchuuriki did. He'd need to have someone resurrect him if it is removed.

I guess what makes most people consider the possibility of Naruto surviving the extraction of Kyuubi is mainly two things:


Only half of Kyuubi's chakra is sealed into Naruto, this could perhaps make him survive the extraction?
Kakashi may have copied Chijo's technique. I wouldn't like him killing himself like that though no matter how noble it is.

[Jack Van Burace]

I doubt the Jyuubi's awakening will ever take place. It would be unreasonable for anyone to defeat Madara if he ever got that power. Nobody in Naruto would be able to do it. That's why I believe the Jyuubi will remain a threat till the very end, to be avoided at all costs.

In order to beat that, one would have to be Rikkudou Sennin level, and no ninja will ever reach that, imo. Furthermore, Minato believes Naruto will find a way to control the Kyuubi, and when someone like him puts his faith in Naruto, it is a promise from Kishimoto that Naruto will ultimatelyt control her. It's announced ever since the first chapters of the series, when we learn that he keeps this monster inside of him, I don't see Kishimoto blowing that expectation.

[niblack89]

I have a bad prediction but what if Naruto's Father the 4th made another fail safe and if the fox was extracted then the other half of its chakra comes in its place. Naruto is connected to the grim reaper. This way Naruto can fight the jyuubi and have the kyuubi at the same time.

[lan2cp]

Naruto has both Yin/Yang of the Kyuubi chakra IMO. It's just a matter of how you look at it. Jiraiya said that only the dark chakra was sealed with Shiki fuujin, leaving the light chakra for naruto to use. But you could say that the dark chakra was sealed with shiki fuujin into narutos body, leaving the light chakra free to mix with Naruto's chakra. Hence why there's a chakra behind bars (dark chakra inside naruto's stomach) and with a different look as to when the light chakra that is able to roam free outside of the cage (the type Sasuke was able to suppress. That would explain the type 1 cloak (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/292/12/) (light), and the type 2 cloak (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/293/16-17/) (dark). Another fact that supports this is that Naruto had to go inside Kyuubi's cage in order to use type 2.

[thefreak]

Juubi will not be released. But naruto will certainly lose the Kuubi and those whiskers with it.
If Juubi gets released then Naruto or Sasuke will sacrifice himself to kill it.
Another possibility is Naruto Becoming Juubi jinchuriki. And later Passing it onto his heir. Probably his son/daughter.

[firework]

Removing Kyuubi makes the process of Naruto mastering his bijuu completely pointless. Naruto losing Kyuubi also makes him weaker. Take into consideration Naruto's chakra amount. Naruto's base chakra is 4x Kakashi's amount. With Kyuubi, Naruto's chakra is 100x Kakashi's. That's a different of 25 right there. Furthermore, Naruto can no longer use his own unique version of Sennin Mode and "that jutsu"; he will also lose his newfound immunity to genjutsu.


Yamato's forced suppression of the kyuubi also made him pointless.

Where do you get these numbers of the chakra levels? Where did you get the idea that naruto needed kyuubi to use his own unique version of sennin mode? how do you even know what "that jutsu" is? Where does it ever say kyuubi gave him a newfound immunity to genjutsu?

scans/databooks with links please; cause your post raised more even more questions with me =/

[Jack Van Burace]

^I think it refers to Kirabee's cancelling of Tsukyomi by having a "partner" Bijuu to disturb his chakra. If the Kyuubi did that, Naruto wouldn't fall for genjutsus anymore.

And about the need for Kyuubi: I've always thought that above all things, Naruto wouldn't get a chakra boost, due to his chakra already being bottomless. But he did, and it turns out it was required to perform Rasenshuriken effectively. So perhaps Kyuubi's chakra pool would enable him to use even harder jutsus that are unreachable for normal humans.

[niblack89]

We will see the Juubi because the bad guys plains always come true before it comes crashing down also it will be an epic show down. It would be stupid foe the whole Manga leads up to him mastering the kyuubi and in return he losses it. I don't think Madara will have control over the jubbi and it will be like Naruto going 4 tails. The juubi will weaken its self because Madara couldn't control it giving naruto and Sasuke the chance to stop it.

[pimp naruto kun]

I know that a lot of people will disagree with me but am i the only one who does not like when naruto uses kyuubi? I mean people say the kyuubi contributes a lot t naruto but most of naruto's power is from his own chakra naruto formed rasen shurinken using his own chakra naruto learned sage mode using his own chakra naruto uses kage bunshin with his own chakra the point that has been constantly made is naruto's own strength shown when yamato tells him to look upon sasuke with his own eyes not the kyuubi, him saying his own chakra is incredibly strong being able to with stand the kyuubi's chakra. I mean in some regards it is inevitable that naruto masters control over the kyuubi but i hope if he does use it is only to use it to defend himself from genjutsu or other things. I don't like the idea of naruto spamming the kyuubi in the manner in which sasuke spams ms but in some regards at least sasuke spam is better than using the kyuubi because at least ms is his own power and i am in no way a fan of sasuke. I mean i dont want naruto to become a character like bee who just relies on hachibi's power half the time. I mean yondaime intended to have naruto to use the kyuubis power against madara and that should be the way it stays to be used as a last resort. i mean naruto can undergo training to control the kyuubi but there are so many other things that can make him stronger like a possible kekkai genkai from his mother or father or more wind jutsu's or another element but i don't think it would be good for naruto to learn kyuubi control and just spam it learning nothing else i mean in my opinion that would make his character weaker in the long run someone who relies only on the power of something else and not their own power. I don't know if the kyuubi will be sealed or not but what would be the purpose of introducing the jyuubi just to have it not be resurrected

[Jack Van Burace]

^Well, I enjoy Killerbee's way of using the Hachibi. It's sort of like Susanoo, a protective armor, but it also prevents Genjutsu and instead of giving you mystical weapons (such as bow-and-arrow or Totsuka/Yata gear), it grants you more speed and strength, enabling one to ripp a person's ribcage open.

The problem is that Naruto can't fight using it properly like KB can, but once he does, it will just be an accessory to him in order to compete with whichever KKG he encounters.

[Zatono]

The problem is that Naruto can't fight using it properly like KB can, but once he does, it will just be an accessory to him in order to compete with whichever KKG he encounters.

I'm sure Naruto will be able to control it eventually, but I feel like it'd be really overpowered. We see what the Hachibi can do, but imagine if Naruto could go KN6 whenever he wants? He'd be blasting villages to nothing whenever he wants to.

[pimp naruto kun]

^Well, I enjoy Killerbee's way of using the Hachibi. It's sort of like Susanoo, a protective armor, but it also prevents Genjutsu and instead of giving you mystical weapons (such as bow-and-arrow or Totsuka/Yata gear), it grants you more speed and strength, enabling one to ripp a person's ribcage open.

The problem is that Naruto can't fight using it properly like KB can, but once he does, it will just be an accessory to him in order to compete with whichever KKG he encounters.

I mean there are obvious benefits to using the bijuu but i personally dont think the problem is him not being able to use it in the manner uses it but i hope that if he does master it he will use it to break genjutsu or in the fight with madara or as a last resort but i think if he uses it in the way killer bee uses it where every second he taps into the hachibis chakra then that will take away from the theme of naruto having power without having to always use the kyuubis chakra and i mean i enjoy killer bee fighting using his bijuu but him and naruto are two different characters. i dont really want naruto to become reliant on the kyuubi's power and becomes another spam character because there are too many of those. i mean personally i feel that naruto should learn more jutsu and perhaps a second element and still learn kyuubi but i think it would be better for him to use these things instead of like killer bee who only uses his bijuu. i just feel that it should be a last resort or genjutsu breaker because in my opinion it would take away from naruto's potential jutsu developement by reducing him to kyuubi spamming like in part 1.

[Bonfire01]

I think Naruto will learn to use the KB's chakra to power hos own techniques rather than just turning into a ruddy great fox and spitting out chakra balls.

He might end up using the chakra cloak to fight but a major theme of the manga has been Naruto learning to fight using his own strength, not just the Kyubi so it would be a bit strange to see that getting reversed now.

As far as the Kyubi being removed I think that's seriously unlikely. Apart from completely altering the main character and removing the reason he became the person he is today, we also have the "that jutsu" to look forwards to which requires Kyubi control. There's no chance we'll miss out on seeing that at some point and the KB needs to be intact for that to happen.

[Smokes]

I'm sure Naruto will be able to control it eventually, but I feel like it'd be really overpowered. We see what the Hachibi can do, but imagine if Naruto could go KN6 whenever he wants? He'd be blasting villages to nothing whenever he wants to.

I agree it's gonna be overpowered, but he's gonna have to be overpowered.

Kishi already has Sasuke at such a level, that he is making his character limit himself. He could already have Itachi's eyes, and Karin was quite the asset. So he chooses to go blind and throw away his insta heal. But with him already going toe to toe with Kage before he has ems or the spiritual weapons, I can't imagine how strong he will actually become. It's gonna be pretty over the top I think.

I don't think Kishi has any intention of stopping Sasuke's growth ever. I think when he resumes project payback with his new eyes he'll be leveling up again every fight 'cause that's just what he does. So Naruto is gonna need stuff that's just stupid to cope.

I'd rather have a great variety of less powerful jutsu but Kishi has decided to go the godjutsu route. I think it's gonna get crazy.

[niblack89]

I'm sure Naruto will be able to control it eventually, but I feel like it'd be really overpowered. We see what the Hachibi can do, but imagine if Naruto could go KN6 whenever he wants? He'd be blasting villages to nothing whenever he wants to.

You got to remember every jutsu he learns except the shadow clone he has to do it differently.
Resangan- needs shadow clone to spin the chakra
FRS- needs an extra clone for the wind
Sage mode - because of the kyuubi he can't use fuse with ma and pa

I give he will have to use sage mode to use the kyuubi because of its sinister chakra. Probably because sage mode has properties that can defuse it evilness or because with sage mode he doesn't feel damage.

I don't see Naruto losing the fox because now we are seeing the fights are becoming extreme demon summing spirits, extreme element control, 2 kekkei genki. Now Naruto and Sasuke are average I think in the up coming Naruto we will start seeing that someone like Bee is also average Naruto will need something to make him above average. We saw at the end of part I. Naruto 1 tail and sasuke curse mark 2. We thought that was to extreme, now we see that just makes you jounin level. I think the new akatsuki will be even better than the 1st because they will have access to the chakra beast. Naruto will need the fox to keep his power as hokage.

[Jack Van Burace]

I'm sure Naruto will be able to control it eventually, but I feel like it'd be really overpowered. We see what the Hachibi can do, but imagine if Naruto could go KN6 whenever he wants? He'd be blasting villages to nothing whenever he wants to.

Yeah, but just like the people above me mentioned, that's somehow what Sasuke has too with his set: an unstoppable fire, a hax genjutsu and a hax armor and weapons. Enough power to blast a whole village out of the map.

Similarly, Kakuzu and Hidan used to overrun temples and entire groups of experienced ninjas just with their "immortality". Same with the 6 paths of Pain. Or Samehada. Or Mizukage's dual KKG.

Kishi won't leave the "Naruto defeats others using his own powers" theme if the Kyuubi is a damn hard thing to use, because it's still Naruto's merit to be able to control her. It would be the same as summoning toads, for instance.

Also, Naruto would still represent the common ninjas who gain power over sheer effort. The Kyuubi wasn't something that only being an Uchiha would give you, but rather a burden that he payed for his entire life. Something achieved through heavy expenses, and a lot of effort. So I believe him controlling the Kyuubi is far from being a "free gift" and it would still be very much his own merit.

[pimp naruto kun]

I think that it would be fine for naruto to use the kyuubi in some manner but the problem is that kishi never has many of his main characters use something with incredible power as a side unimportant move i mean look at sasuke once he got ms he hasnt barely stopped using it since if naruto were to get kyuubi control i wouldnt want him to be recognized as the strongest because of some beast he has. i mean people criticize sasukes sharingan and etc but at least he uses his own power his own chakra regardless if naruto learns to control the kyuubi and learn to use its chakra its still not his chakra i think the kyuubi should be something to be used in dire situations not in the manner that killer bee uses his bijuu it for every attack. I mean it wouldn't neccessarily be a free gift but even if he masters it think how overpowered he would be and then you realze oh wait hes not even using his chakra hes just borrowing chakra to even be able to do be that strong. I think that Naruto would be much cooler as a strong shinobi who uses their own chakra not bijuu like sandaime or yondaime or shodaime then zooming arounf the battle field spamming kyuubi. I don't necessarily know what will happen to naruto having the kyuubi or whether it will be taken or not but i dont think there would be a point in having the jyuubi be brought up if it would be tossed to the side later. I think that if naruto did end loosing the kyuubi or if he used it only for genjutsu protection and maybe healing that would be better cause i personally would not want to see a fight near the end or at the end of naruto fighting sasuke with the kyuubis power and not his own i mean look at how many times kishi has brought up the idea of the strength of naruto's chakra and defending those he cares about with HIS power the only i think the kyuubi should be used for is completing "that jutsu", breaking genjutsu, healing , and having control over it so he doesn't let its chakra out when he gets mad

[Kaiten]

Naruto learning to control the kyuubi seems inevitable. I'm never a fan of shonen heroes getting new powers, it's rarely done organically. Kishi has been hinting, for as long as I can remember, that the Naruto received the kyuubi to use it's power. Minato even said something along the lines of wanting him to use it's powers to defeat Madara. He definitely won't lose the kyuubi, he most likely will learn to harness it's power soon.

[miraiya]

I think we will definitely see Juubi's resurrection, but the last missing piece (i.e. the half of Kyuubi's chakra that was lost when the 4-th Hokage died) will become the key to seal it again.

[Jack Van Burace]

I think that it would be fine for naruto to use the kyuubi in some manner but the problem is that kishi never has many of his main characters use something with incredible power as a side unimportant move i mean look at sasuke once he got ms he hasnt barely stopped using it since if naruto were to get kyuubi control i wouldnt want him to be recognized as the strongest because of some beast he has. i mean people criticize sasukes sharingan and etc but at least he uses his own power his own chakra regardless if naruto learns to control the kyuubi and learn to use its chakra its still not his chakra i think the kyuubi should be something to be used in dire situations not in the manner that killer bee uses his bijuu it for every attack. I mean it wouldn't neccessarily be a free gift but even if he masters it think how overpowered he would be and then you realze oh wait hes not even using his chakra hes just borrowing chakra to even be able to do be that strong. I think that Naruto would be much cooler as a strong shinobi who uses their own chakra not bijuu like sandaime or yondaime or shodaime then zooming arounf the battle field spamming kyuubi. I don't necessarily know what will happen to naruto having the kyuubi or whether it will be taken or not but i dont think there would be a point in having the jyuubi be brought up if it would be tossed to the side later. I think that if naruto did end loosing the kyuubi or if he used it only for genjutsu protection and maybe healing that would be better cause i personally would not want to see a fight near the end or at the end of naruto fighting sasuke with the kyuubis power and not his own i mean look at how many times kishi has brought up the idea of the strength of naruto's chakra and defending those he cares about with HIS power the only i think the kyuubi should be used for is completing "that jutsu", breaking genjutsu, healing , and having control over it so he doesn't let its chakra out when he gets mad

Well, the Kyuubi isn't something that is used without cost. It does cost the shortening of your life. Everytime it's used, you get to live less in the future. So it's not something spammable, it's only for life-and-death situations.

Also, it seems like a specially hard to master Bijuu. This might lead to restrictions in order to using the Kyuubi's chakra. Senjutsu is a very dangerous technique that can turn you into a toad or a stone if misused, and requires either the clones (limited) or the aid of toads to keep it going.

The same might go for the Kyuubi, and we already know it bursts clones when used, so perhaps there are even greater downsides for using it than we already know. Perhaps it requires Senjutsu to keep going and spends it's Nature's chakra very fast to be able to sustain the Kyuubi form. Who knows?

[Naruto_Rasengan]

Yamato's forced suppression of the kyuubi also made him pointless.

Where do you get these numbers of the chakra levels? Where did you get the idea that naruto needed kyuubi to use his own unique version of sennin mode? how do you even know what "that jutsu" is? Where does it ever say kyuubi gave him a newfound immunity to genjutsu?

scans/databooks with links please; cause your post raised more even more questions with me =/

He got the number from the Manga, during the Elemental Affinity training with Naruto. However that was some time ago now and everyone will have grown since that point.

When it comes to Senjutsu etc it won't matter if Naruto loses Kyuubi, he's just speculating. Fact is, Senjutsu doesn't require Kyuubi, it would probably actually make it harder for Naruto when you take into consideration the amount and number of different chakra's he has to manipulate and maintain perfect balance between.

As for the rest it's pretty clear hes just assuming, however it would be easier to break Genjutsu is Naruto could control Kyuubi - Which he can't, so that becomes pointless. However the "That Jutsu" they're talking about is the one Jiraiya mentioned before his fight with Pain, which may very well be the same as the one he mentioned at the start of Part 2. It's hard to say really.

Overall Naruto would be less powerful if he lost Kyuubi, but I honestly don't think it will effect him that greatly. He's still got his base skills such as his Senjutsu, Kage Bunshin, Rasengan, Fuuton's etc. He's still got his tactical presence and a large chakra supply so while Naruto would become weaker without the Kyuubi it might be good in some cases, as Naruto could an easier time controlling his Chakra (just assuming though). :tem

[Gekkou]

I think the manga doesn't need Juubi at all. We got enough with Sasuke, Madara, the remains of Akatsuki, the seven bijuu (not eight at least for now) and Kabutomaru Orokabuto Kaborochi Orokabaru or whatever the name of that thing is.
My point, enough bad guys already, not need of a Juubi for the war, and by that I mean Naruto won't lose the Kyuubi. If he lost it, Naruto's Flagship (Kage Bunshin) would be lost too, and that's just not going to happen until all bad guys are gone. The least I'll say will be that he loses it in the end, and by something like in exchange for his life, he might give the Kyuubi's, or even Kyuubi will sacrifice to protect him and kill the bad guys, who knows. Either way, I don't see Naruto losing the Kyuubi at least until the end of the manga, and I mean the VERY end.

[Marche]

I don't think than He will lose the Kyuuby, otherwise Minato will be a faillure (this will be a Minato's faillure).
And I think He will control the Kyuuby's (thank's to Kyuuby's key, Bee's help and above all Heremetic mode) so the Kyuuby's can't be more under MS influence.
I am sure of this.

[Klue]

Seal half the Kyuubi within your son, only so he could master then lose that power?

I don't know.

[Jack Van Burace]

I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!! Pay attention everyone!

Half of the Kyuubi is sealed away in the Shinigami. Half of the Kyuubi is within Naruto. Kabuto can bring back creatures from the other world, as seen with the possible summon of Minato (sealed along with half of the Kyuubi) during the Oro vs Sarutobi fight. This means that Kabuto can bring back the Yin chakra of Kyuubi using Edo Tensei! /o\ (as long as he seals it inside some Jinchuuriki)

So, all the Akatsuki would be in need right now is Kirabee's Hachibi. They can pick up half the Kyuubi from the dead using Kabuto, and it would suffice for bringing back the Jyuubi.

They clearly don't need all the Kyuubi, as it wasn't even in their plans to use Edo Tensei before. They would use Naruto's half and that's it. So, Naruto can keep the Kyuubi and doesn't have to be captured at any point in order for Madara to bring back the Jyuubi.

[scandalous']

I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!! Pay attention everyone!

Half of the Kyuubi is sealed away in the Shinigami. Half of the Kyuubi is within Naruto. Kabuto can bring back creatures from the other world, as seen with the possible summon of Minato (sealed along with half of the Kyuubi) during the Oro vs Sarutobi fight. This means that Kabuto can bring back the Yin chakra of Kyuubi using Edo Tensei! /o\ (as long as he seals it inside some Jinchuuriki)

So, all the Akatsuki would be in need right now is Kirabee's Hachibi. They can pick up half the Kyuubi from the dead using Kabuto, and it would suffice for bringing back the Jyuubi.

They clearly don't need all the Kyuubi, as it wasn't even in their plans to use Edo Tensei before. They would use Naruto's half and that's it. So, Naruto can keep the Kyuubi and doesn't have to be captured at any point in order for Madara to bring back the Jyuubi.

So you have a 8 and half completed jyuuby...

[niblack89]

Naruto is the strongest person in the leaf right now and one of the strongest in the world without the kyuubi so with the kyuubi no one is strong enough to stop him except Sasuke and I don't think Sasuke will win their upcoming fight.

The only way for Naruto to get captured is after his fight with Sasuke he gets weakened and Tobi swipes him in his current state.

[Zatono]

I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!! Pay attention everyone!

Half of the Kyuubi is sealed away in the Shinigami. Half of the Kyuubi is within Naruto. Kabuto can bring back creatures from the other world, as seen with the possible summon of Minato (sealed along with half of the Kyuubi) during the Oro vs Sarutobi fight. This means that Kabuto can bring back the Yin chakra of Kyuubi using Edo Tensei! /o\ (as long as he seals it inside some Jinchuuriki)


There's a few things wrong with this theory.

We have no idea if the supposed Minato summon would of worked. His soul should of been eaten by the Death God already. Besides, why did Edo Tensei stop working if sealing away the souls was a useless act in the first place?

Personally, I think that Madara's plan to be a host is destined to fail, and the Juubi will be revived with a portion of its power missing, so it'll still be stronger then the nine-tails, but not quite as strong as it could be. That'll give Naruto and Co. a chance to defeat it without making it look like Naruto is God and surpassed the Rikudou Sennin, etc.

[ashher]

I do think jack has a great point, after all madara has a rinnegan as well. He probably planned to use that b4 kabuto appeared. But the prob is we don't know if anything that is sealed in deathgod can be revived. However i've this hunch that recent dev about qb having a mind and chakra and naruto only needing the chakra part indicates that for juubi taking the mind is essential. After all uchiha already has chakra more sinister than qb, which they can use with the summoned 'will' to make juubi.

[niblack89]

If he loses the kyuubi he will brought to life and Madara will lose control of the 10tails because he doesn't know how to control a buji like a Jinchuuriki the evilness will prevail and the 10tails take over him leaving Naruto the only person able to control the 10tails because he is a Jinchuuriki that knows how to separate the will from the 10tails.

[Jack Van Burace]

I haven't replyed to the ppl who quoted me because I really sort of agree with your posts, and really have nothing more to add. I was just throwing the idea to the winds, "passing the ball" so others can give their opinion on it. I just exclamated because that possibility startled me...


But then again, have you guys wondered if Madara really wants to get the Jyuubi? I mean, he probably wouldn't be able to control it, and the Kyuubi is powerful enough. Ever wondered if he only wants to empty the world of Kyuubi's natural counters (the other Bijuus, Hashirama and the Sharingans) before getting his hands in it to rule the world without opposition?

I'm beggining to think the Moon-Eye-Plan is a decoy.

[ajith_sakthi]

I was having some crazy ideas, what will be the power of jinchuuriki, if the bijuu gets extracted, and if he makes it alive.

Bijuus are said to have minds of their own. So they have a yin and yang part.

So if a jinchuuriki starts controlling a tailed beast his yin and yang should be balancing the bijuu's, also their chakra should be used in two ways, if they do not have complete control.

1. Restrict the bijuu's chakra from taking over
2. Restrict the damage caused by the bijuu's chakra.

Of all these Naruto's case is most interesting, since the Kyuubi in him is removed of its Yang, which also suggests that Kyuubi is not 100% in Naruto, also unlike 8 tails its full of Yin or dark chakra which has more dark intent and difficult to control.

So currently a major part of Naruto's will and his chakra is opposing Kyuubi's and as days goes by this should be increasing his chakra pool.

So we have lot of things that come to our mind that we can discuss

1. What will be the chakra pool of Naruto, if Kyuubi extracted?
2. Will Naruto become a total saint, with Kyuubi removed Naruto might have a bigger Yang or brighter and warm character.
3. What all powers will he retain from Kyuubi even after extraction
4. Will his chakra and will be greater than Kyuubi's , assuming he gets complete control of Kyuubi before extraction.
[hr]
I think if Kyuubi is removed from Naruto he will have power as much as the Rikudou himself or more.
Reasons:
1. Kyuubi was the only bijuu that was out in open for a longer time.
This would have allowed him to grow stronger than it was originally. since it feeds on people's anger and evil emotions.
2. After Kyuubi's yin part was sealed inside Naruto, he would have fed on Naruto's evil part or yin part and grown even stronger.
3. There is a concept that Yin and Yang always balance out each other. So as Naruto started to cultivate positive and good thoughts that is his Yang grows, his Yin should have grown too, to keep it balanced, which means Kyuubi also would have grown along.
So now Kyuubi might have a Yin portion which might theoretically equal the Yin portion of Jyuubi which Rikudou was the Jin.
Rikudou would have balanced the evil of Jyuubi with his own Yang and that of whatever portion of Yang Jyuubi had.
But Naruto needs to fight his Yin and Kyuubi's together, which makes his Yang and the growth of his chakra possibly greater than the evil Kyuubi chakra and its thoughts.
So if Kyuubi is removed, he will not waste his chakra in keeping Kyuubi in check, which will literally make Naruto a chakra monster with chakra equal to or more than the Sage of Six Paths himself.

[benelori]

I think Naruto will die if Kyuubi get extracted...but I don't think that's gonna happen, and mastering Kyuubi is along the way, so I believe Naruto will live...

[ajith_sakthi]

Your theory has several holes.

-All the tailed beasts have minds
Yes, i agree that all the tailed beast have minds. Thanks for pointing out. I have corrected myself.


-Nowhere does it say or give reason to believe an extra tail=twice the chakra

Yes, i agree that's the reason i had not mentioned anything about other beasts, as of we know 9 tails is the strongest and 8 tails is the second in order. As the Gedo Mezo was explained the power in Gedo Mezo should be balanced by the power being sealed.
That is if you are to seal 8 tails into Gedo Mezo, the chakra that is sealed into Gedo Mezo should be equal or slightly lesser to balance the chakra of 8 tails being sealed. That is in theory 8 tails is as strong as all other 7 bijuu's together. that is
power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
So applying same logic 9 tails can be sealed only after 8 tails which implies
Power of 9 tails = sum of power of 1 to 8 tails
or = Power of 8 tails + sum of power of 1 to 7 tails
using the above hypothesis
power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
Power of 9 tails = power of 8 tails + power of 8 tails
= 2 X Power of 8 tails


-Naruto's personality is not influenced by the Kyuubi, except when hes drawing on its chakra
Naruto is a prankster and decieves people during his fights which is similar to the characteristics of the fox which is a prankster and also some physical characteristics like whiskers in his face.
Gaara still has the ring around his eyes even after Shikaku has been extracted.


-The whole thing sounds like something pulled out of your ass with no basis in fact.
As i mentioned in the post, we do not have many jins who are alive after the bijuu's extracted as a matter of fact we have only one, Gaara.
I did not mention everything in detail on my assumption on bijuu since it might be very big and boring.
Whatever i have mentioned is based on some assumption combining some of the statements and the concept of yin/yang chakra,because there is no solid fact on how the chakra will be impacted of a jin from whom bijuu's extracted.
That's why this post is opened to speculate on the possibilities, because this is imaginary and understand that nobody is right or wrong here since if it actually happens Kishi will be the person who decides how its handled.

[hakuthehedgehog]

Your theory has one hole in it: the number of tails does not equal more power, and the powerscale regarding Gedo Mazo is wrong because when Shukaku (1-tail) was extracted, two other Bijuu were already put into Gedo Mazo.

[ajith_sakthi]

Your theory has one hole in it: the number of tails does not equal more power, and the powerscale regarding Gedo Mazo is wrong because when Shukaku (1-tail) was extracted, two other Bijuu were already put into Gedo Mazo.
As i explained earlier with the formula in blue, i have referred to the power level of 8 and 9 tails only, not any other tails


Yes, i agree that's the reason i had not mentioned anything about other beasts, as of we know 9 tails is the strongest and 8 tails is the second in order. As the Gedo Mezo was explained the power in Gedo Mezo should be balanced by the power being sealed.
That is if you are to seal 8 tails into Gedo Mezo, the chakra that is sealed into Gedo Mezo should be equal or slightly lesser to balance the chakra of 8 tails being sealed. That is in theory 8 tails is as strong as all other 7 bijuu's together. that is
power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
So applying same logic 9 tails can be sealed only after 8 tails which implies
Power of 9 tails = sum of power of 1 to 8 tails
or = Power of 8 tails + sum of power of 1 to 7 tails
using the above hypothesis
power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
Power of 9 tails = power of 8 tails + power of 8 tails
= 2 X Power of 8 tails



The topic here is to see how much of chakra and what kind of powers will Naruto get if the Kyuubi gets extracted. :)

[Lord Abortion]

What we need to evaluate is this, in Narutos last fight did he tap into the fox at any other point aside from when he resisted Peins control rod at the end and other than when he transformed into the 6+ version of the Nine tails? Which I would say is no, he did not.

1. Yes it effects his chakra pool because he can not absorb any more chakra from the fox, however, he would be able to sync with Ma and Pa and most likely extend his sage mode out to ridiculous lengths. With his own chakra he was able to use a high powered S rank technique 9 times in the length of a single battle? A long with various other incarnations of the resegan as well as his taijuu kage bunshin technique towards the end of the fight. Naruto on his own probably has more chakra than anyone else in the series.

2. No, I don't think his characteristics will change. The only time he is really influenced by the Fox is when he lets his chakra get out of control or if he's really pissed off. I don't think we will see a change in his temperament.

3. I would assume none since the powers attributed to him such as his rapid healing are due to the foxes prescience.

4. No. I think that would be overkill for Kishimoto to put forth.


As for the ying and yang stuff, I would like more information to be presented in series. Really the only information that was given is that it has to do with Medical, shadow, growth and genjutsu.

[Alterno]

i stated that in EVERY FREAKING movie/manga/series etc there is a hidden sealed WTFPWNING monster is always and always released, or the author wouldnt introduce it at all, so it will be resurrected sooner or later



It doesn't mean that it would be the Jyubi, it could be the fusion of 7 or 8 of 9 beasts, let's not compare this manga with other mangas. We already had a god like enemy (nagato) and we stil have an ancient/ terrifying evil (Tobi/Madara?), the closest we saw this guy to getting touched was when he fought danzou and his bodyguards.

There's still doubts, but let's suppose that this guy is indeed Madara, the Kages were curious about why a guy with that power couldn't take control of the Shinobi world by himself, this was before the chapter "declaration of war", I don't think he will ever manage to complete all the bijuus, but he will indeed recover his power (if he is really madara) or obtain madara's power (if he is someone else).

If the Kyuubi is extracted and the Jyuubi summoned it would mean the end of the Shinobi world (as shinobi nations can barely control each beast) or Madara becoming the host of the beast and performing his Mungen Tsukyomi, as outcome; world domination.

[ajith_sakthi]

dead
Nice comment:amuse

Please read the topic before u answer, it says if he makes it alive after bijuu's extracted.

If u say its not possible we already have Gaara who is alive.

I thought i will get different views and out of the box answers, but not quite got many :(

[Richo]

Nice comment:amuse

Please read the topic before u answer, it says if he makes it alive after bijuu's extracted.

If u say its not possible we already have Gaara who is alive.

I thought i will get different views and out of the box answers, but not quite got many :(

Gaara was dead when his biju got extracted but was later revived at the cost of another life.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/278/18/

so in short when a Biju is extracted through Gedo-Masa he will die no matter what, so unless there is another way the host will die.
Iirc the sand extract the biju and seals it within a new host making the previous host die, it unknown how they do it or how other countries to it though. But judging from current Cannon its impossible to extract a biju from a host without killing its host. In short this thread doesnt belong in this section.

[Xiraiya]

If Naruto lived, I don't think he would change much, the traits and powers gained from Said Bijuu are still there after extraction, Gaara can manipulate sand fully, etc. he still has the insomnia rings and what not.

The kyuubi has boosted Naruto's natural chakra pool to insane proportions over the years, and I think it will stay as is if the Kyuubi was extracted, the only difference would be I think is that it would stop growing.

I'm not sure on the whiskers either but I assume if they're like Gaara's eyes then chances are they would stay after extraction, though kishi could remove them to help symbolize the Kyuubi being gone.

The only real difference I would imagine is Naruto no longer tapping into the Kyuubi, and it's absence could very well calm/chill out his overall personality especially when it comes to anger.


We also know Naruto's seal is unique so he could survive the extraction. I'm pretty sure Minato accounted for that possibility.

[Cueil]

I don't think many of you seem to understand. The lion's share of Naruto's chakra is still being used to hold back Kyubi's chakra. This brings up all kinds of interesting theories though... like if they extract the Kyubi's chakra... since it's only half of the chakra... would they need Naruto's to act as the other half or would this throw a wrench in Madara's plans?

[ashher]

I think 9tails' extraction would be very different. Only qb's will would be extracted, most of its chakra will remain with naruto. Where we are going wrong is we are considering yin and yan like 2 diff chakras themselves seperately. Yin and yan have various meanings...good, bad, light dark etc. But in naruto, when it comes to chakra, they mean physical and mental elements which must be accumulated together to form chakra, and until they are taken together there is no chakra. So thinking that naruto has half of qb chakra is wrong imo, he has the yan supply from qb, but he prolly has to supply yin from his own chakra,without which there can be no qb chakra. Its a symbiotic existance, and that's why qb told sasuke not to kill naruto. However recent devlopments: qb needed for juubi, qb having a seperable will, uchihas using qb like summon rather than normal bizuu-host thingy and uchihas already having more sinister chakra than qb make me think that sasuke will summun qb after naruto mastering seperation of will-chakra, taking out only the will of qb with little chakra may be. And madara/sasuke later on would add their uchiha chakra to it through hatred,thereby making a new stronger qb and then the juubi. While naruto keeps the original qb chakra component with him and starts utilizing that fully.

[Cueil]

I think 9tails' extraction would be very different. Only qb's will would be extracted, most of its chakra will remain with naruto. Where we are going wrong is we are considering yin and yan like 2 diff chakras themselves seperately. Yin and yan have various meanings...good, bad, light dark etc. But in naruto, when it comes to chakra, they mean physical and mental elements which must be accumulated together to form chakra, and until they are taken together there is no chakra. So thinking that naruto has half of qb chakra is wrong imo, he has the yan supply from qb, but he prolly has to supply yin from his own chakra,without which there can be no qb chakra. Its a symbiotic existance, and that's why qb told sasuke not to kill naruto. However recent devlopments: qb needed for juubi, qb having a seperable will, uchihas using qb like summon rather than normal bizuu-host thingy and uchihas already having more sinister chakra than qb make me think that sasuke will summun qb after naruto mastering seperation of will-chakra, taking out only the will of qb with little chakra may be. And madara/sasuke later on would add their uchiha chakra to it through hatred,thereby making a new stronger qb and then the juubi. While naruto keeps the original qb chakra component with him and starts utilizing that fully.

J-man was pretty specific in saying that only the yin(yang? I can't remember just got off work) half was sealed in Naruto... I think Kyubi is more of a form of Natural Chakra

[ashher]

Yes indeed, yan is sealed in naruto, and one can rightfully call it 'yan half' since its half of the requirements of molding chakra. But neither yin nor yan is chakra. I mean yin and yan is a bit like male and female gamets and chakra is the zygote. Not any of the 2 gamets is zygote by itself, but each of them are certainly half of the zygote. Now if naruto cannot somehow get the missing yin supplied, there can't be any qb chakra according to the 1st law of chakra that kishi told us. Since we know qb chakra exist in naruto then something is certainly compensating as yin. I am guessing that naruto himself is working as the yin source...the more yin he provides at his cost, the more of qb yan gets balanced and the more qb chakra manifest. If it is so, then naruto theoritically can utilize all of original qb chakra someday by balancing all of the sealed yan with his yin. All i am saying is that don't think that we are seeing only yin or only yan when we are seeing qb, we are seeing chakra, both yin-yan in a complex.

[Pointlessness413]

Yes, i agree that all the tailed beast have minds. Thanks for pointing out. I have corrected myself.

Yes, i agree that's the reason i had not mentioned anything about other beasts, as of we know 9 tails is the strongest and 8 tails is the second in order. As the Gedo Mezo was explained the power in Gedo Mezo should be balanced by the power being sealed.
That is if you are to seal 8 tails into Gedo Mezo, the chakra that is sealed into Gedo Mezo should be equal or slightly lesser to balance the chakra of 8 tails being sealed. That is in theory 8 tails is as strong as all other 7 bijuu's together. that is
[COLOR="Navy"]power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
So applying same logic 9 tails can be sealed only after 8 tails which implies
Power of 9 tails = sum of power of 1 to 8 tails
or = Power of 8 tails + sum of power of 1 to 7 tails
using the above hypothesis
power of 8 tails = sum of power of 1 to 7 tails.
Power of 9 tails = power of 8 tails + power of 8 tails
= 2 X Power of 8 tails

Naruto is a prankster and decieves people during his fights which is similar to the characteristics of the fox which is a prankster and also some physical characteristics like whiskers in his face.
Gaara still has the ring around his eyes even after Shikaku has been extracted.

As i mentioned in the post, we do not have many jins who are alive after the bijuu's extracted as a matter of fact we have only one, Gaara.
I did not mention everything in detail on my assumption on bijuu since it might be very big and boring.
Whatever i have mentioned is based on some assumption combining some of the statements and the concept of yin/yang chakra,because there is no solid fact on how the chakra will be impacted of a jin from whom bijuu's extracted.
That's why this post is opened to speculate on the possibilities, because this is imaginary and understand that nobody is right or wrong here since if it actually happens Kishi will be the person who decides how its handled.

Assuming that the tailed beasts do ascend in power based on the number of tails, the way you calculated it is the maximum of each tail in comparison to the previous. Example:
Gedo Mazo has a power of 1. So, it can seal anything with a power of 1. Say that the 1-tailed has a power of 1. Now Gedo has a combination of 1 + 1, or 2. But, assume that the 2-tails had a power of 1.0000001. Gedo without the 1-tailed still couldn't capture the two-tailed, but with the 1-tailed it's more than enough. Now, Gedo has a power of 3.0000001. Say that the three-tailed had a power of 2.000001. It's greater than the Gedo + 1 tailed, and even slightly greater than Gedo + two-tailed, so you need to use the Gedo + 1-tailed + two-tailed to get the three-tailed. If you were to extend this out to the Kyuubi, you have each tailed beast growing by just over the rate of the 1-tailed. So, the Hachibi could have 8/9 the power of the Kyuubi. Or...it could have 1/2 the power.

[ek7]

why do you think that kyuubi will get extracted? everyone thinks that juubi will be reincarnated in someone else. But i think naruto will be the host of juubi.

[ek7]

I don't believe kyuubi would be extracted. even more i believe naruto may be the host of the juubi. but the reason i think is a little different. i think he will sacrifice himself to be the sole jinchuuriki. he knows the life of a jinchuuriki, he can't let them to be free again so, they will be all sealed in him. (but there is always the possibility of sasuke who seems to be the principal character of the manga for several years and who developped an enormous chakra pool)

[ajith_sakthi]

why do you think that kyuubi will get extracted? everyone thinks that juubi will be reincarnated in someone else. But i think naruto will be the host of juubi.

Its just a theory or assumption how Naruto will be if Kyuubi is extracted. Even for Jyuubi to be reborn, Kyuubi has to be extracted :p

[zales88]

Assuming that the tailed beasts do ascend in power based on the number of tails, the way you calculated it is the maximum of each tail in comparison to the previous. Example:
Gedo Mazo has a power of 1. So, it can seal anything with a power of 1. Say that the 1-tailed has a power of 1. Now Gedo has a combination of 1 + 1, or 2. But, assume that the 2-tails had a power of 1.0000001. Gedo without the 1-tailed still couldn't capture the two-tailed, but with the 1-tailed it's more than enough. Now, Gedo has a power of 3.0000001. Say that the three-tailed had a power of 2.000001. It's greater than the Gedo + 1 tailed, and even slightly greater than Gedo + two-tailed, so you need to use the Gedo + 1-tailed + two-tailed to get the three-tailed. If you were to extend this out to the Kyuubi, you have each tailed beast growing by just over the rate of the 1-tailed. So, the Hachibi could have 8/9 the power of the Kyuubi. Or...it could have 1/2 the power.

So in yopur opinion
1-tail=1
2-tail=2,00001
3-tail=3,00001
4-tail=4,00001
.
.
.
9-tail=9,00001

so after ekstrakting 4 first bijus you would have 1+2,00001+3,00001+4,00001=10,00003 so after that you could take kyubi

that's why ajith_sakthi was saying that if you need to ekstrakt them in order they should by 2 times stronger (or around it)

I'm not saying his right but his thinking is closer too truth than yours

[ajith_sakthi]

So in yopur opinion
1-tail=1
2-tail=2,00001
3-tail=3,00001
4-tail=4,00001
.
.
.
9-tail=9,00001

so after ekstrakting 4 first bijus you would have 1+2,00001+3,00001+4,00001=10,00003 so after that you could take kyubi

that's why ajith_sakthi was saying that if you need to ekstrakt them in order they should by 2 times stronger (or around it)

I'm not saying his right but his thinking is closer too truth than yours

The topic is What will Naruto be like if Kyuubi is extracted from him, the explanation given was basically to support the amount of chakra he might get after the extraction Process.
I would request you to stay on topic, please, i would like to hear more distinct views on what all cool abilities or characteristics naruto would get if Kyuubi is extracted and if he makes it alive.

[Rehv]

I think that even if the kyuubi is extracted from naruto someday, he'll choose to be it's jinchuuriki after juubi is defeated and splitted again...I can see naruto saying "I won't let anyone else suffer from the kyuubi" or something else.

anyway, I don't think there's gonna be any changes if kyuubi is extracted, because they've been together for so long that it's got deeply fused with him, so, IMO naruto will keep it just like Gaara did.

[ek7]

i don't believe he would change or gain any power. i don't think that he uses his chakra to suppress Kyuubi. their chakras are already mixed, and kyuubi is kept in his cage thanks to the seal. so i believe he would loss a lot of his potential. with kyuubi his potential is basically unlimited (beside his intelligence). but i would like him to be more intelligent, if that is possible :)

[Judau Ashta]

Madara's plan is to create an eye in the moon to cast a genjutsu on everyone. It wouldn't make sense to revive the Jyuubi since he would be unable to control it. At best, extracting the bijuu's will only give him control of the Jyuubi's body (the eye) to accomplish his plan.

[Hyuuga_Mugen]

Why do most people seem so adamant that Madara can't control the Jyuubi. As far as we've seen the sharingan can manipulate ALL forms of life, human, animal/summon, even tailed beast through the 4th's testament. Why not a Jyuubi?

Personally I don't believe Naruto will lose the kyuubi. As the child of prophecy he's foreseen to bring about a revolution i think it would bode well for jinchuuriki to remain to show that people have changed to accept for who they are and all that jazz.

Plus I think naruto swayed sasuke slightly during there last conversation, nevermind the fact that naruto is his rival, I believe sasuke knows that madara has a hidden agenda, and would interject if he were to target naruto actively. Remember Sasuke could probably overthrow madara as he hinted itachi could have. Madara doesn't have everything as perfect as he'd like it, he's constantly concerned with sasukes mental state. Sasuke has always had a habit of backstabbing his mentors and changing motives to fuel his revenge, and now sasuke has ems, madara's treading on very thin ice indeed. Though now in his worst case scenario he has kabuto as a counter, I love the way kishi set this all up.

[Jack Van Burace]

Ok, just thought I should revive this topic for a good reason.

-Last time we checked, Naruto got his hands into Kyuubi's chakra and managed to control it.
-Minato has the other half sealed in him.
-Last chapter we saw that if Kushina was to die with the Kyuubi inside, it would reform somewhere else, breaking free.
-Madara may have some way to get the other half of the Kyuubi from inside the Shinigami's belly.

Q: Now what do we do with all this information? What will Naruto do with the Kyuubi's chakra available to him?
A: He's gonna tame the other half of the Kyuubi, after sealing it inside of him!

-Minato mentioned last chapter that he was unable to seal all of the Kyuubi inside of him.

So basically, sealing the entire Kyuubi into one person is a hard feat, and controlling it even harder I suppose. Perhaps having it divided will be the key to mastering the most powerful Bijuu and having its own half chakra the way to achieve that. Half chakra + Naruto's chakra > Half chakra ;)

So, instead of losing it, I think Naruto will get it whole.

[katon_style]

Ok, just thought I should revive this topic for a good reason.

-Last time we checked, Naruto got his hands into Kyuubi's chakra and managed to control it.
-Minato has the other half sealed in him.
-Last chapter we saw that if Kushina was to die with the Kyuubi inside, it would reform somewhere else, breaking free.
-Madara may have some way to get the other half of the Kyuubi from inside the Shinigami's belly.

Q: Now what do we do with all this information? What will Naruto do with the Kyuubi's chakra available to him?
A: He's gonna tame the other half of the Kyuubi, after sealing it inside of him!

-Minato mentioned last chapter that he was unable to seal all of the Kyuubi inside of him.

So basically, sealing the entire Kyuubi into one person is a hard feat, and controlling it even harder I suppose. Perhaps having it divided will be the key to mastering the most powerful Bijuu and having its own half chakra the way to achieve that. Half chakra + Naruto's chakra > Half chakra ;)

So, instead of losing it, I think Naruto will get it whole.
a very nice point of view but the problem here is how will naruto take it from shiki fuuin belly and minato stated that this sealing tec can be only used by a non-jinjurichi

[Dekker]

a very nice point of view but the problem here is how will naruto take it from shiki fuuin belly and minato stated that this sealing tec can be only used by a non-jinjurichi

I would not count to much on that shiki fuuin belly. After all, Orochimaru has got his hands again, and they were sealed in there, too.

[Jack Van Burace]

^Not really, his hands were never usable again, and were quickly deteriorating every time he entered a new body.

I believe someone might get the other half of Kyuubi for Naruto. I don't know how deep can Edo Tensei reach, perhaps Kabuto figured how to use souls from the shinigami's belly and this is his advancement in Oro's technique.

[Gingitsune]

To get the other half of Kyuubi, Naruto may not need to use Shiki Fuujin, maybe both half or Kyuubi are still linken to each other somehow, this link may be used as the key to the Shinigami's belly. And while he's there, he could get some other souls back, like the first four Hokage.

Talking of bijuu being partly sealed into the belly of the Shinigami, maybe Rikudou Sennin also used Shiki Fuujin to seal a part of the Juubi with his own soul, I find it kind of odd to split a 10 tails beast into 9 parts, it would be easier to cut along le tails and make it into 10 parts... OK, maybe I'm thinking too pratical about the issue.

Anyway, the Shiki Fuujin seems to be an ancien jutsu and as powerful as it is I wouldn't surprise if it was deviced by the old sage. So seems to be the Shishou Fuuin which Minato used for Naruto's seal, hence why Naruto looks like the old hermit when he gained Kyuubi's chakra.

[Tahl]

I couldn't see a related thread so here goes:

Does it strike anyone as odd that the Kyubi has now been split into two parts, one that Naruto can use and one that he can't.

My prediction is that the bad part of the kyubi will be removed. Thus making madara whole again in order for naruto & Sasuke to kill him.
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[mbacarra]

I think I've mentioned this quite a few times on different threads. I'm all for Naruto losing the Kyuubi. However, since only the Yang part was sealed to him and the Yin was contained with the Fourth's soul inside the death god's belly, when Madara attempts to combine the tailed beasts, he will fail to form the Jyuubi because of this one important component missing. So Naruto loses the Kyuubi, Madara gets all 9 beasts but fails in "completing" them in a sense. And since Naruto is an Uzumaki, it makes me think that he would still survive despite having the kyuubi extracted from him.

[jiraiyanindo]

Well, we know in order to break the seal and let the Jyubi come back to life the Kyuubi is required, so the question if will Jyubi resurrect?

The answer is obvious, yes.

In EVERY manga/anime/movie/comic book/tv series there is an imbalanced/terrifying/undefeatable/godlike ancient enemy sealed somewhere it's ALWAYS and ALWAYS brought back to life.

King Piccolo in Dragonball, Majin Bu, and Cell in DBZ, Luud in GT
Sylar in Heroes, the Fallen in the 2nd transformers movie, but there are a lot of other examples i dont remember right now.

so the jyubi is going to be unveiled, at the end, and that means naruto is going to lose kyuubi before the end of the manga, and survive somehow

I don't believe that the kyuubi will be taken from Naruto. The overarching theme of this manga is that the kyuubi is naruto's key power to become the greatest ninja ever and thus achieve world peace and balance. Naruto losing the kyuubi would slap the last 500 chapters of manga in the face. I do think the juubi will be revived by Madara. I dont want to overly speculate but I think that there will be some kind of plot hole to bring the juubi back without taking the kyuubi from naruto.

[niblack89]

I was wondering. Gaara got the shukaku taken but still retain a great deal of his sand powers. Naruto took the chakra from the kyuubi and I'm sure it could regenerate.

We see that Naruto with the Uzuamki clans longevity powers he wont die. If they find Naruto right after Tsuande could heal him. Since the kyuubi's chakra is within Naruto and not the kyuubi it would be drained but not depleted.

Is the idea insane or plausible.

[NinjaPenguinator]

I was wondering. Gaara got the shukaku taken but still retain a great deal of his sand powers. Naruto took the chakra from the kyuubi and I'm sure it could regenerate.

We see that Naruto with the Uzuamki clans longevity powers he wont die. If they find Naruto right after Tsuande could heal him. Since the kyuubi's chakra is within Naruto and not the kyuubi it would be drained but not depleted.

Is the idea insane or plausible.

sounds plausible, and kishi can easily just explain him surviving because he only has half the kyuubi in him, so he wouldn't die from it being extracted.

[zimji]

so i was thinking, what if naruto loses the fox, could he use that now empty space that used to have the foxs chakra and replace it it with sage chakra? in simple terms, can he replace the pretty much infinite amount of chakra from the fox with infinite amount of sage chakra? maybe this would be the key to maintaing sage mode for long periods of time

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[Alterno]

so i was thinking, what if naruto loses the fox, could he use that now empty space that used to have the foxs chakra and replace it it with sage chakra? in simple terms, can he replace the pretty much infinite amount of chakra from the fox with infinite amount of sage chakra? maybe this would be the key to maintaing sage mode for long periods of time

I doubt he could, the nine tails's chakra and abilities seems to be something in another level. I also think that sage mode chakra is limited to the point you reach the perfect transformation, like Naruto did, is just that you can recharge.

[zimji]

I doubt he could, the nine tails's chakra and abilities seems to be something in another level. I also think that sage mode chakra is limited to the point you reach the perfect transformation, like Naruto did, is just that you can recharge.

but couldnt he just store up as much sage chakra as nine tails chakra if he didnt have ninetails, so he wouldnt have to recharge after 5 minutes

[LnDRash]

Sage Chakra is Narutos own chakra mixed with natural energy. So the only thing he could "store" there would be natural energy, but that would be pointless because its nothing that needs to be stored, there's an infinite amount all around you anyway.

The delicate part is to mix this natural energy with his own chakra without turning into a frog.

I think its more likely that sage mode and fox mode will be combined in the future. Sage Chakra is about quality while Fox Chakra is about quantity. If Naruto has the vast amount of Fox Chakra he can automatically take in more natural energy without shifting the ballance, that alone should make it possible for him to stay in Sage Mode almost indefinitely in the future.

[eefrit]

I think it is now plausible for Naruto to lose the Kyuubi as it was shown that he could possibly survive the removal process. However, if this does happen I am sure he would probably get it back somehow for the greater good or something like that. However, unless the fight with Madara doesn't take place until after the war and the fight with Sasuke, I don't see him losing it.

[ibi]

Sage Chakra is Narutos own chakra mixed with natural energy. So the only thing he could "store" there would be natural energy, but that would be pointless because its nothing that needs to be stored, there's an infinite amount all around you anyway.

The delicate part is to mix this natural energy with his own chakra without turning into a frog.

I think its more likely that sage mode and fox mode will be combined in the future. Sage Chakra is about quality while Fox Chakra is about quantity. If Naruto has the vast amount of Fox Chakra he can automatically take in more natural energy without shifting the ballance, that alone should make it possible for him to stay in Sage Mode almost indefinitely in the future.

you just gave me a really good idea, forget using the 9tails chakra to balance out the natural energy. Remember when naruto goes kyuubi mode and the 9 tails is pulling on his chakra and will eventually kill him if he keeps in mode for too long. why dont he use sage mode so that the kyuubi pulls on the unlimited natural energy around him, and naruto can use kyuubi mode as much as he wants., and if he used kyuubi mode to balance out the natural energy then, he would have an even bigger amount of power for longer periods of time, without affect on his own life.

[zimji]

Sage Chakra is Narutos own chakra mixed with natural energy. So the only thing he could "store" there would be natural energy, but that would be pointless because its nothing that needs to be stored, there's an infinite amount all around you anyway.

The delicate part is to mix this natural energy with his own chakra without turning into a frog.

I think its more likely that sage mode and fox mode will be combined in the future. Sage Chakra is about quality while Fox Chakra is about quantity. If Naruto has the vast amount of Fox Chakra he can automatically take in more natural energy without shifting the ballance, that alone should make it possible for him to stay in Sage Mode almost indefinitely in the future.

but remember he could only use sage mode for 5 minutes i think, but if he stored the natural energy he could last a lot longer in sage mode, right or wrong?

[LnDRash]

^
Wrong because it doesn't matter if he draws the natural energy from some sealed place in his body or from the outside, if he mixes too much natural energy into his chakra he turns into a frog, thats also part of the reason why he needs to stay still and concentrate.

The best he could hope for is to store there one charge of already perfectly ballanced naruto/natural chakra, which is the same thing he's doing with his clones already.

[White Silver King]

The appearance of the Jyuubi would concentrate the manga on the fight part, becuz then the good duys only goal will be the destroying of Jyuubi, thus setting aside bonds, relationships and their development
Except of course what would be the most obvious outcome: Naruto and Sasuke work together to defeat the Jyubi. Naruto and Sauke is the ultimate bond in this series, their cooperation to defeat the Jyubi would be the pinnacle of this manga.

And I think people are seriously underestimating Kishi's meaning of Naruto "completely seperating the Kyubi from his chakra". It's my guess that when Madara extracts the Kybui from Naruto, his chakra won't be coming along for the ride. And why does Naruto need to be resurrected after the extraction? It's the most certain thing in the world he would survive it - Kushina did (after child birth, at that) and she didn't have Naruto's life giving chakra and, most importantly, she was not the main character of a Shonen.

As for the comment that no one exists that can beat the Jyubi, he'll probably be significantly weaker without his other half of the Kybui and/or will be unstable. That, coupled with a Naruto and Sasuke combo, the Jybui will come crashing down (possibly into Naruto's seal).

[gnut]

^
good point...it is actually only half the kyuubi chakra.so why should he die like gaara?
i've always wondered if the other jinchuurikis could heal as fast as naruto?

[docimian]

we've already seen that more than 1 person can posses the 9 tails chakra. madara will break the death god seal on the other half, capture bee, and use the 1/2 kyuubi and other 8 tails to revive the 10 tails. if naruto loses the 9 tails then minatos sacrifice was pointless.

[Quantized]

we've already seen that more than 1 person can posses the 9 tails chakra. madara will break the death god seal on the other half, capture bee, and use the 1/2 kyuubi and other 8 tails to revive the 10 tails. if naruto loses the 9 tails then minatos sacrifice was pointless.

If that happends, then I'm gonna call plot hax no jutsu. Ever since someone came up with this idea, it has been popular, but to be honest, it both sounds lame and unrealistic :/

If what you're saying is true, then Madara could in principal already awaken the Juubi now, since he has the tentacle of the 8 tails and meatballs of the 9 tails.
Sounds boring :/

Naruto is SUPER boring right now... It's a story at the level of the very bottom of the shounen level, what is this for, 8 year old kids..?
Come on, I don't want to see a fairy tale where the good guys always are one step ahead of the bad and winning with super massive force.

Let him loose the fox, let there be drama, don't put Minato up as a "God of all knowing", he couldn't possibly know the future... and even then, Naruto can grow strong enough without the tailed beast to possibly steal the 10 tails after we have seen Madara "win" the war...

Afterall, and I stress... Whatever better way is there to be recognized as the strongest by beating Madara AFTER Madara takes control of the whole world with iron claws...?
Would be awesome to have a dark age in the ninja world, where we see "this world" of Madara's, before Naruto wipes floor with him.

I really like the fox, I do. But it's not gonna work, the story is boring like this... Atleast that is my opinion.

Give the story you prepared Kishi, your layout has not been followed, you're just trolling us :o

I also have to stress, how in the hell are Naruto gonna be recognized as the strongest if all he did was relying on the 9 tails power..?
Don't get me wrong, it's no small feat to control it's powers, but it's just soooo lame that my eyes start to bleed and hurt.. :blink

Given all the potential...
Given all the crazy many forshadows that has not been followed if Kyuubi is not lost...

If Kishi do not live up to what he started, then this is gonna be the biggest disappointment of a manga I have ever read.

Don't forshadow something that won't happend, and this badly... :(

[ashher]

^ while the above post is a great example of the logical fallacy 'appeal to ridicule', i agree that naruto losing 9t would be a very interesting turn of events.

[Jammin]

Personally, i think it would be such an amazing twist if Naruto got the Kyuubi extracted and Killer Bee became the last jinchurichi.

So we get to see Naruto's friends and allies mount a rescue in the midst of a warzone. Resulting in Madara losing the war and Naruto losing the Kyuubi. So basically Naruto would have to grapple with the confidence shattering reality that he failed to protect the kyuubi, and also sets him free from the alliance worrying about the Kyuubi getting taken.

Best of all the alliance would lock Killer Bee up in a safe-house somewhere so i could hopefully forget he existed for a while.

[benelori]

:rofl...

The last line priceless Jammin:lmao...however Killerbee locked up in a room, while the rest of the world is searching for Naruto, would be the only chance for comic reliefs, so I'm sorry:comfort

Though I think Killerbee might get captured, and Bijuu extracted...in Naruto's case it's a bit harder...cuz then he would die:(...

[Jammin]

:rofl...

The last line priceless Jammin:lmao...however Killerbee locked up in a room, while the rest of the world is searching for Naruto, would be the only chance for comic reliefs, so I'm sorry:comfort I think on some level i realize that, but i just hate him so much.http://www.laymark.com/i/o/81.gif


Though I think Killerbee might get captured, and Bijuu extracted...in Naruto's case it's a bit harder...cuz then he would die:(... That may be so but the way i see it, if Sasuke can pull a bird summon out of nowhere and Edo Tensei can be turned into a running touched by an angel themed joke, all bets are off.

I mean, if those are the standards that must be maintained Sakura might well be able to fix half a soul getting ripped out with a band-aid and some baby aspirin.

[Quantized]

^ while the above post is a great example of the logical fallacy 'appeal to ridicule', i agree that naruto losing 9t would be a very interesting turn of events.

and who said I was making a documentary or text book for scholars? I merely share my opinion, you can disagree all that you want.

You can't just label my post as fallacy just because I didn't post evidence, that in it's self is ignorance, instead you should "politely" ask for evidence :-_-

Oh btw, hit up "irony" in a dictionary -_-;

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Personally, i think it would be such an amazing twist if Naruto got the Kyuubi extracted and Killer Bee became the last jinchurichi.

So we get to see Naruto's friends and allies mount a rescue in the midst of a warzone. Resulting in Madara losing the war and Naruto losing the Kyuubi. So basically Naruto would have to grapple with the fact that the confidence shattering reality that he failed to protect the kyuubi, and also sets him free from the alliance worrying about the Kyuubi getting taken.

Best of all the alliance would lock Killer Bee up in a safe-house somewhere so i could hopefully forget he existed for a while.

Love it..! :D
So agreed, this really would make Naruto become interesting again <3 :)
Although I'd love Madara to win the war, so that we can see this "perfect" world of his he claims to be so good :)

[NarutoThe6th]

I believe Sasuke will seal the demon fox away.How ? with the legendary sword Susano'o carries !

[Bigfoot187]

it would be stupid if the jyubi power was splitted into 9 tailed demons, and with 7 only you can revive it, isnt it?

imo Naruto is gonna loose Kyuubi and rely on his strengths only

also the perfect control Killer Bee has on the 8tails is because the 8tails is a kind beast and they are friends. The Kyuubi is evil and is nowhere near to be friend of someone, and it's not only matter of jinchukiri's ability to control, it's a matter of the help that the tailed beast give to his master in order to control itself

Uhm 8 tails wasn;t nice, it became that way after being controlled by Bee.
Like hachibi said himself: remember Bee, I used to be wild to.

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I believe Sasuke will seal the demon fox away.How ? with the legendary sword Susano'o carries !

That sword belonged to itachi, just beacause he has his eye power doesn't mean he got the other weapons Itachi found.
caus if Oro was looking for it, that means itachi fouond it and it wasn;t part of his susanoó

[young simba]

I have a feeling the jyuubi will be revived by madara without the kyuubi. Naruto will seal the jyuubi by himself which will be his crowning moment