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Kaiten
November 28, 2009, 01:04 PM
Download all the latest WSJ chapters here! (http://mangahelpers.com/manga/?p=1&magazine=112&filter=)
(Note: The above list is automatically generated based on latest releases and availability of chapters on MH.)


What is this thread about?
This thread started in 2006 as a scan archive for Weekly Shounen Jump (WSJ) manga. It was essentially a place for all raws from WSJ that didn't have their own R/T/S threads here at MangaHelpers. Over the years, many members (including The Touch, xi0, Kylara, Asakura, Sai_the_Shaman, Waeyen, and Heiji, to name a few) have been helping out in this thread by scanning covers, ToC pages, previews, and sharing the raws they found or scanned.

With MH's upgrade to v2.3, there's no longer a need for a separate scan archive. This all new 2009-10 thread will be for you, the fans, to discuss whatever you like about WSJ! Predominantly, discussions will be centered around the ToC ranking that's posted weekly. You can also post the magazine covers and preview pages in this thread.

What is the ToC ranking?
ToC stands for Table of Contents. It's found on the last page of every issue of WSJ, but more importantly, the order the series appear in on the ToC is closely related to the popularity of the series. This is determined by polling the readers; there is a polling postcard in every issue of WSJ.


Each week, a certain guy from 2ch writes out TOC for the following week's Jump. TOC order is usually based on polling result of readers, thus you will know how your favorite series are doing based on the order.

Some exceptions etc:
- Pyu to fuku Jaguar is always at the last.
- For the 2nd-8th chapters, TOC is already decided, though it could change depends on readers' ranking.
- The TOC is affected by the popularity of 8 chapter ago.
- Shueisha's aiming their main target as elementary and junior high school students, thus, their votes weigh probably more than others (fangirls).

How can I find out what series runs in WSJ?
Click HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/manga/browse/?perpage=10000&magazine=112&status=1) for a list of all the current series running in WSJ. Each link will lead you to more details about the manga, and where you can find raws, translations and scanlations for all your favourite series! You can also find past series in WSJ by changing the Status filters on that page.

Where are the past WSJ threads?
- Weekly Shounen Jump Scan Dump! [2007] (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1394)
- Weekly Shounen Jump (Shounen Mag by Shueisha) [Archive 2008 and older] (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22065)
- Weekly Shonen Jump [2009] - Discussion and TOC Talk (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44342)

Have fun!

#01 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11831 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11831)

#02 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11832 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11832)

#03-04 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11833 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11833)

#05-06 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11834 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11834)

#7 - Reborn
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11835 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11835)

#8 - Nurarihyon no Mago
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11836 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11836)

#9 - Bakuman
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11837 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11837)

#10 - Gintama
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11838 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11838)

#11 - Bleach
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11839 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11839)

#12 - Lock On!
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11840 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11840)

#13 - Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya Sensei no Kaidan
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11841 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11841)

#14 - Kochi Kame
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11842 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11842)

#15 - Nurarihyon no Mago
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11843 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11843)

#16 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11844 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11844)

#17 - Reborn
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11845 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11845)

#18 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11846 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11846)

#19 - Beelzebub
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11847 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11847)

#20 - Gintama
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11848 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11848)

#21-22 - WSJ Cast
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11849 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11849)

#23 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11850 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11850)

#24 - Metallica Metalluca
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11851 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11851)

#25 - Shonen Shikku
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11852 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11852)

#26 - Reborn!
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11853 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11853)

#27 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11854 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11854)

#28 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11855 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11855)

#29 - Toriko
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11856 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11856)

#30 - Bakuman
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11857 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11857)

#31 - SWOT
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11858 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/11858)

#32 - Oumagadoki Doubutsuen
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12182 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12182)

#33 - Nurarihyon no Mago
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12183 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12183)

#34 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12300 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12300)

#35 - Toriko and Beelzebub
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12376 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12376)

#36-37 - WSJ Cast
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12386 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12386)

#38 - Bleach
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12472 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12472)

#39 - Bakuman
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12615 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12615)

#40 - Beelzebub
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12616 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12616)

#41 - Enigma
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12647 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12647)

#42 - Light Wing
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12739 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12739)

#43 - Naruto
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12785 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12785)

#44 - One Piece
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12823 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12823)

#45 - Bakuman
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12840 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/weekly-shonen-jump-2010/12840)

Jump Next - Spring
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/Jump%20Next/th_2010_Spring_Jump_Next.jpg (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/Jump%20Next/2010_Spring_Jump_Next.jpg)

Akumaru Jump: Winter
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/Akamaru%20Jump/th_Scan_001.jpg (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/Akamaru%20Jump/Scan_001.jpg)
Cover Orange - Lead Color Magenta - Center Color Blue - Oneshot Color Yellow - New Green - Finished Red
#01 (12/07) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color Page)
Naruto
Toriko
Bleach
Gintama
Beelzebub (Color Page)
Kochi Kame
Mago
Sket Dance (Color Page)
Kanata
Reborn
Inumaru
Neko
Kashikoi
Kuroko no Basket
Bakuman
Medaka Box
Hôkenshitsu
Psyren
Ane Dokî
Jaguar#02 (12/14) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Bleach
Bakuman (Anime in Fall 2010)
Gintama
Inumaru Dashi
Kuroko no Basket
Horikoshi Kôhei / Ômagadoki Dôbutsuen (One Shot) (Color)
Reborn
Kanata
Beelzebub
Gag Manga Biyori (Color)
Neko Wappa
Psyren
Kochi Kame
Toriko
Medaka
Sket
Mago (Color)
Hokenshitsu
Rilienthal
Ane Doki
Jaguar#03-04 (12/21) :
Naruto (Cover, Lead Color)
Beelzebub
One Piece
Toriko
Mago
Sket Dance
Kochi
Bleach (News & Poster)
Bakuman (Color)
Psyren
Gintama
Neko
Idol
Takahashi Ichirô / Uchû no Sparrow (Color, One Shot)
Reborn
Inumaru Dashi Special Chapter
Kashikoi Ken Lilienthal
Medaka Box
Kuroko no Basket
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Ane-doki
Jaguar#05-06 (01/04) :
Bleach (Lead Color)
Naruto
One Piece (Cover)
Gintama
Kuroko no Basket
Hunter x Hunter (Come Back, Color)
Reborn
Mago
Toriko
Beelzebub
Kanata
Psyren
Inumaru Dashi x To Love Collaboration
Yabuki Kentarô / Futagami Double (Color, One Shot)
Kochi Kame
Sket
Bakuman
Kashikoi
Neko Wappa
Hokenshitsu
Medaka
Ane Dokii
Jaguar#07 (01/18) :
Kuroko no Basket (Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Toriko
Bakuman
Bleach (Color)
Beelzebub
Nurarihyon no Mago
Reborn (Cover, Color)
Psyren
Gintama
Kochi Kame
Sket Dance (Color)
Hunter x Hunter
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Inumaru
Medaka Box
Kanata Seven
Koshikoi
Neko Wappa!
Ane Dokî (End)
Jaguar
#08 (01/25) :
Psyren (Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Gintama
Bleach
Nurarihyon no Mago (Cover & Color)
Toriko
Kochi Kame
Beelzebub (Color)
Reborn
Kuroko no Basket
Inumaru
Sket Dance
Medaka Box (Color)
Hunter x Hunter
Kanata Seven Change
Hetappi Manga
Bakuman
Rilienthal
Hokenshitsu
Neko Wappa
Jaguar
#09 (02/01) :
Bakuman (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Beelzebub
Bleach
Toriko (Color)
Nurarihyon no Mago
Gintama
Sakaki Shôta / Sengoku Armors (Color)
Reborn
Psyren
Kochi Kame
Sket Dance
Kanata Seven Change
Rikienthal
Inumaru
Hunter x Hunter
Kuroko
Hokenshitsu
Medaka Box
Neko Wappa
Jaguar
#10 (02/08) :
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Naruto
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bleach
Kochikame (CP) & Announcements
Kuroko no Basket
Sket Dance
HACO (CP, One Shot)
Katekyo Hitman Rebron!
Inumaru Dashii
Toriko
Hunter x Hunter (CP)
Kashikoi-ken Rilienthal
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Beelzebub
Kanata Seven Change
Bakuman
Psyren
Medaka Box
Neko Wappa!
Jaguar #11 (02/15) :
Bleach (Cover, Lead CP)
Naruto
One Piece
Bakuman
Nurarihyon no Mago
Toriko (CP)
Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
Kochi Kame
Beelzebub
Gintama
Psyren
Hetappi Manga Kenkyujo R
Inumaru Dashii
Hunter x Hunter
Shinikake Senshi!! Soushin-man (One Shot, CP)
Sket Dance
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kanata Seven Change
Medaka Box
Kuroko no Basket
Kashikoi-ken Rilienthal
Neko Wappa!
Pyuu to fuku! Jaguar
#12 (02/22) :
Lock-on (Cover, Lead Color, New Series, 56p)
One Piece
Naruto
Beelzebub
Mago (Color)
Reborn
Kochi
Kuroko (Color)
Sket Dance
Toriko
Gintama
Inumaru
Hunter
Rilienthal
Bakuman
Hokenshitsu
Psyren
Medaka Box
Kanata Seven Change
Jaguar#13 (03/01) :
Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya Sensei no Kaidan (Lead Color, New Series 56p)
Naruto
Bleach
Beelzebub
Lock-on (27p, Color)
Reborn
Psyren
Mago (Color)
Kochi
Bakuman
Inumaru
Medaka Box
Sket Dance
Toriko
Hunter x Hunter
Gintama
Kuroko no Basket
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kashiko-ken Rilienthal
Jaguar#14 (03/08) :
Kochi Kame (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Gintama
Bleach
Yotsuya (Color, 27p)
Reborn
Toriko
Kuroko (Color)
Lock-on
Bakuman
Beelzebub
Nurarihyon no Mago
Medaka box
Inumaru
Hunter x Hunter
Sket Dance
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Psyren
Rilienthal
Jaguar#15 (03/15) :
Nurarihyon no Mago (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Psyren
Sket Dance (Color)
Yotsuya (23p)
Bakuman
Inumaru
Lock-on
Medaka Box (23p, Color)
Reborn
Kochi
Beelzebub
Toriko
Gintama
Hettapi Manga
Hunter x Hunter
Kuroko no Basket
Rilienthal
Hokenshitsu
Jaguar
#16 (03/22) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Toriko
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bakuman.
Bleach (Color)
Gintama
Kuroko no Basket
Devil Clutch (One Shot Color)
Kiben Gakuha Yotsuya-senpai no kaidan
Inumaru dashi
Lock-On!
Reborn!
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Beelzebub
Hunter x Hunter
Kochikame
Sket Dance
Medaka Box
Psyren
Rilienthal
Jaguar
#17 (03/29) :
Reborn (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
One Piece
Gintama
Arata no Tsukumogami (One Shot Color)
Bleach
Kuroko no Basket
Nurarihyon no Mago
Sket Dance
Kochi Kame
Psyren (Color)
Lock On!
Bakuman
Kiben Gakuha Yotsuya-senpai no kaidan
Medaka
Toriko
Inumaru Dashi
Hunter x Hunter
Beelzebub
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kashikoi-ken Rilienthal
Jaguar#18 (04/05) :
Naruto (Cover, Lead CP)
Beelzebub
One Piece
Kuroko
Bleach
Lock On (Color)
Psyren
Toriko
Reborn (Color)
Mago
Yotsuya
Inumaru
Sket
Hokenshitsu
Kochikame
Gintama
HxH
Bakuman
Medaka
Rilienthal
Jaguar
#19 (04/12) :
Beelzebub (Cover, Lead Color)
Reborn
Naruto
Kuroko no Basket
Bakuman
Bleach (Color)
Kochi Kame
Gintama
Toriko (Color)
Nurarihyon no Mago
Medaka
Watanabe Makoto / Meruhen Ôji (Oneshot Color)
Lock On!
Sket Dance
Inumaru
Yotsuya
Psyren
Hokenshitsu
Hunter
Kashikoi
Jaguar
One Piece (Absent) (04/19) :
Gintama (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Toriko
Nurarihyon (Color)
Reborn
Medaka
Bakuman (Color)
Beelzebub
Hokenshitsu
Inumaru
Sket Dance
Psyren (Color)
Lock On!
Kochi
Yotsuya
Kuroko
Hunter
Kashikoi
Jaguar
(04/26) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Bleach
Nurarihyon
Toriko
Kuroko pecial chapter (Color)
Bakuman
Reborn
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Gintama(Color)
Lock On!
Kochi
Yotsuya
My Idol by Kawashita (Oneshot Color)
Hokenshitsu
Inumaru
Kuroko
Psyren
Medaka
Hunter
Rilienthal
Jaguar(05/10) :
Toriko (Lead Color)
Naruto (Cover)
One Piece
Beelzebub
Nurarihyon
Bleach (Color)
Kochi Kame
Psyren
Sket Dance(Color)
Reborn
Lock On
Inumaru
Kuroko
Hunter x Hunter
Bakuman
Gintama
Yotsuba
Hokenshitsu
Medaka
Rilienthal (end)
Jaguar(05/17) :
Metallica Metalluca (Cover, Lead Color, New Series)
One Piece
Naruto
Reborn!
Kuroko
Kochikame (Color)
Bleach
Gintama
Beelzebub (Color)
Sket Dance
Bakuman
Medaka Box
Lock On!
Toriko
Hetappi (end)
Inumaru
Nurarihyon
Hunter x Hunter
Yotsuya
Psyren
Hokenshitsu
Jaguar(05/24) :
Shonen Shikku (Cover, Lead Color, New Series)
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Toriko
Metallica Metalluca (Color)
Reborn!
Bakuman
Hokenshitsu
Kochikame
Medaka
Nurarihyon no Mago (Color)
Gintama
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Inumaru
Lock On!
Hunter x Hunter
Kuroko
Psyren
Yotsuya
Jaguar(05/31) :Reborn! (Cover, Lead Colour)
One Piece
Naruto
Nurarihyon no Mago
Beelzebub
Shonen Shikku (Color)
Bleach
Psyren
Metallica
Gintama
Toriko
Inumaru
Lock On!
Kuroko no Basket (Color)
Sket Dance
Kochikame
Bakuman
Hunter x Hunter (going back on hiatus)
Hokenshitsu
Medaka Box
Yotsuya
Jaguar(06/07) :
Nurarihyon no Mago (Lead color)
Naruto (Cover)
One Piece
Bakuman
Shonen Shikku
Bleach
Belzeebub (Color)
Reborn
Metallica
Kuroko No Basket
Psyren
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami (Color)
Skate Dance
Kochikame
Toriko
Gintama
Lock On!
Inumaru Dashi
Medaka Box
Yotsuya
Jaguar(06/14) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Toriko
Beelzebub
Bleach
Bakuman
Shonen Shikku
Gintama
Makyô Ryokôshi Gram (One Shot, Color Page, 47p) Nishi Yoshiyuki (Author of Bokke-San)
Reborn
Kochikame (Color Page)
Metallica
Kuroko no Basket
Skate Dance
Nurarihyon No Mago
Hokenshitsu No Shinigami
Inumaru Dashi
Psyren
Medaka Box
Yotsuya
Lock On!
Jaguar
(06/21) :
Toriko (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Bleach
Beelzebub
Kateikyôshi Hitman Reborn!
Psyren (Color)
Metallica Metalluca
Shonen Shikku
Sket Dance
Bakuman
Nurarihyon no Mago
Hôkenshitsu no Shinigami
Murata Yûsuke / Minds (One Shot, Color, 47p)
Kochi Kame
Kuroko no Basket
Inumaru Dashi
Gintama
Medaka Box
Lock-on
Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya Senpai no Kaidan
Jaguar
One piece (Absent)(06/28) :
Bleach (Lead Color)
One Piece
Katekyo Himan Reborn!
Bakuman (Cover)
Medaka Box (Color)
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Metallica Metalluca
Toriko
Shounen Shikku
Kiba & Kiba - One shot by Riichiro Inagaki & Ponjea (Color, 47 p)
Kuroko no Basket
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Inumaru dashi
Gintama (Color)
Psyren
Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya-senpai no Kaidan
Lock On! (End)
Pyuu to fuku! Jaguar
Naruto (absent)
(07/05) :
SWOT (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
One Piece
Naruto
Reborn
Bleach
Nurarihyon (CP)
Kuroko
Bakuman
Sket Dance
Gintama
Hokenshitsu
Inumaru
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Shonen Shikku
Metallica
Psyren
Medaka Box
Yotsuya (end)
Jaguar
Toriko (absent)(07/12) :
Oumagadoki Doubutsuen (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Bakuman
Reborn
SWOT (Color)
Gintama
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bleach (Color)
Toriko
Belzeebub
Inumaru dashi
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kochikame (Color)
Medaka Box
Sket Dance
Psyren
Metallica Metalluca
Kuroko no Basket
Shonen Shikku
Jaguar
(07/19) :
Nurarihyon no Mago (Cover, Lead Color)
One Piece
Naruto
Toriko
Gintama
Bakuman
Oumagadoki (Color)
Belzeebub
Bleach
Reborn (Color)
SWOT
Sket Dance
Inumaru dashi
Psyren
Nurarihyon no Mago - Bangai (Color)
Kochikame
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Medaka Box
Kuroko No Basket
Metallica
Shonen Shikku
Jaguar(07/26) :
Naruto (Cover, Lead Color)
Bleach
One Piece
Bakuman
Reborn
Toriko (Color)
Oumagadoki Doubutsuen
Sket Dance
Kikaitontibanashi Ikkyu Hanasaka (Color, Golden Future Cup)
Gintama
SWOT
Kochi kame
Beelzebub (Color)
Nurarihyon no Mago
Medaka Box
Inumaru Dashi
Kuroko
Hokenshitsu
Psyren
Shonen Shikku
Metallica
Jaguar(08/02) :
Sket Dance (Lead Color)
Toriko (Cover)
Naruto
Nurarihyon no Mago
One Piece
Inumaru Dashi
Medaka Box
Shunkan⊗Heroism (One shot color)
Bleach (Color)
SWOT
Hokenshitsu
Beelzebub (Cover, Color)
Oumagadoki Zoo
Reborn
Kuroko
Gintama
Kochikame
Psyren
Shonen Shikku
Metallica
Jaguar
Bakuman (absent)(08/09) :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Naruto
Bakuman
Gintama
Toriko
Sket Dance
Oumagadoki Zoo
Bleach
Beelzebub
Kuronomanshonn (One shot Color)
Reborn
Otter #11 (Color, 15 pages)
SWOT
Nurarihyon no Mago
Kochi Kame
Medaka
Inumaru Dashi
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kuroko no Basket
Psyren
Metallica
Shounen
Jagger
Extra includes a poster by Kawashita Mizuki (08/23) :
Lead CP: Bleach
CP: Golden Future Cup, Nurarihyon, Kochikame (movie adaptation)
Special Chapter: Gag Manga Biyori
Uno Tomoya x / One Shot (Color, Golden Future Cup)
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/3756102_04.jpg (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3756102/04.jpg.html)
(08/30) :
Ogura Yûya / One Shot (Color, Golden Future Cup)
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/3756103_05.jpg (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3756103/05.jpg.html)

Magicoreo
November 28, 2009, 02:22 PM
Not sure if I can do this but just in case some of you didn't see it earlier;

As I got my copy and looked through Jump today, there was an announcement that Bleach will be taking over the spine in 2010 (this year, however you want to take it) and the Naruto 10th anniversary book was somewhat announced but meh, I'll say it again. It looks like it will be in volume form- WITH the mangaka's drawings of the blond hero. Out 12/4.

StrangerAtaru
November 28, 2009, 02:22 PM
I think we really need to update that opening Kaiten: KochiKame isn't really last. Sure it really has no bearing on any rankings but it still floats regardless.

Googlez_kun
November 28, 2009, 03:55 PM
does someone have all the Naruto spines in a row?

Mushashi
November 28, 2009, 04:51 PM
i do.

Googlez_kun
November 28, 2009, 04:59 PM
i do.

can you post it then,please?

Akiyama
November 28, 2009, 06:06 PM
With spines there was One Piece in 2008 Naruto in 2009 and now Bleach in 2010. Oda did a great job mixing in the different seasons onto the spines. Kishi did a baton passing with all the characters. I look forward to Bleach since it also has a huge cast of characters, let's hope Kubo comes up with something unique.

Negative Syndicate
November 28, 2009, 07:05 PM
With spines there was One Piece in 2008 Naruto in 2009 and now Bleach in 2010. Oda did a great job mixing in the different seasons onto the spines. Kishi did a baton passing with all the characters. I look forward to Bleach since it also has a huge cast of characters, let's hope Kubo comes up with something unique.

Is Bleach started at 2001? Then, is Bleach year suppose to be start at 2011, not 2010?

Maxy Barnard
November 28, 2009, 07:10 PM
which is why the spine should be Jaguar this year but nooooooo let's go with Bleach! BAH!

Magicoreo
November 28, 2009, 07:14 PM
Yeah, Bleach started at '01 and it's anniversary is supposed to start in '11 but I guess it's just about what's more popular and what isn't. :/

Negative Syndicate
November 28, 2009, 07:24 PM
If Bleach year does start at 2010, it going to be weird. Bleach did had a colour for 8th year anniversay at chapter 375 (even it was mentioned as 8th anniversary), then all of sudden make 2010 as Bleach's year, like celebrating as its 10th anniversary.

Magicoreo
November 28, 2009, 07:36 PM
Makes me wonder what's going to happen during Bleach's ACTUAL anniversary.

kewl0210
November 28, 2009, 07:38 PM
Jaguar will get the spine when there's no other manga left in the magazine.

Really, Bleach is the next most popular manga and gets the next most amount of sales, since it has an anime and all.

Bakuman isn't gonna last long enough to get a spine or anything, but maybe Mago or Toriko or Gintama or Reborn will get it next year.

Negative Syndicate
November 28, 2009, 09:11 PM
I know it is too early, but I found a koneta, and uploader is same as usual, so I'll upload it.


679 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/11/29(日) 10:56:29 ID:lQmfgeh1O
先週は間違いがあってスマンカッタm(_ _)m
全然気がつかなかったよorz


ちょいと早いが小ネタ
・1ドベ5姉、PSY、保健、めだか、爆
・2Cぬらり、日和、読切堀越耕平
・3・4読切高橋一郎
・5・6読切矢吹健太朗
あと■の方は迷い猫で

Issue 1 Bottom 5:
Bakuman
Medaka
Hokenshitsu
Psyren
Ane Dokii
CP: One Piece, Sket Dance, Beelzebub (we already know)

Issue 2 CP: One Piece, Nurarihyon, Biyori(? I'm not really sure what is this one is), one shot by Horikoshi Kouhei

Issue 3/4: one shot by Takahashi Ichirou (author of Volleyball-Tsukai Goudagou)

Issue 5/6: one shot by Yabuki Kentarou
Plus, Yabuki's Sqare work going to be about cat.

Mr. Prince
November 28, 2009, 09:45 PM
Aww~ EizHb38XPU is so amiable and polite :') Love how he's apologizing for his mistake last week...

As for the bottom dwellers:
Now that's a crappy way to celebrate your second year of serialization for Psyren. Ane-doki hits rock bottom once again, meh.
Happy for Rilienthal though...

Biyori is "Gag Manga Biyori" from JUMP SQ, I guess. I think it had some chapters in JUMP every now and then...not too sure though.
That Horikoshi fellow seems to have participated in 2006's second Tezuka award.

Yabuki doing some stray cat(or is it really literally a doubting cat?) sounds kinda weird but ah well...

Magicoreo
November 28, 2009, 10:03 PM
It could be talking about his Black Cat series? Just a guess.

Mr. Prince
November 28, 2009, 10:11 PM
Yabuki Kentarô new manga is Mayoi Neko Overrun (Light Novel) adaptation
Aah! Thanks Heiji :tem

Now it makes a lot more sense...guess he'll do a decent job at it. : )

wingman32x
November 28, 2009, 10:59 PM
So Ane Doki sinks down to the bottom again huh. Oh well, The latest chapter really kinda pissed away any remaining potential it had left, so I really don't care either way.

Medaka improved slightly, which is good. Idk, it seems that it could actually turn itself around. It may seem unlikely, but with Medaka improving subtly and Ane seemingly getting worse, you never know.

Drmke
November 28, 2009, 11:43 PM
Rilienthal manages to crawl its way out of the bottom again. I don't like it, but at least its different. Bakuman needs to quit this yoyoing crap but at least Beelzebub isn't in the bottom again. Psyren is though....

Shinigami is in trouble and Ane Doki as well. Medaka and Ane Doki are basically competing to see who can get canceled last. I'm pretty sure both will, its just who will go first. Whoever it is will take Shinigami with them. Maybe all three will go at the same time.

Koshi_Inaba
November 28, 2009, 11:54 PM
Mago got color just two issues after the last one, looks like the pimping has begun, finally. medaka, anedoki and hokenshitsu aren't looking too good

Drmke
November 28, 2009, 11:54 PM
Yabuki Kentarô new manga is Mayoi Neko Overrun (Light Novel) adaptation

This does not excite me based on what I read at AnimeNewsNetwork, but hopefully I will be surprised...

kewl0210
November 29, 2009, 12:09 AM
Bottom five is pretty typical.
Psyren went down from being third a couple weeks ago, but I suppose that happens. Same with Bakuman which goes up and down.
Akedoki and Medaka still aren't doing well.
The unrakned series are so far staying out of the bottom five, which is pretty typical I guess.

Most likely HXH will get the cover on Issue 5-6. Probably opening color too, but either last time or two ago it only had the cover.

Rejuvenation
November 29, 2009, 12:17 AM
Bakuman keeps yo-yoing.

Ane Doki plummets again. If Jump wants to cancel it I won't throw much of a fit over it. It hasn't been as entertaining since Kawashita seemed to have been doing more of the same old same old. Though the latest chapter was indeed something different and interesting.

Psyren seems to be struggling again after a getting 3rd a few weeks ago. It is a shame because the story has been great for a long time now but it just can't seem to maintain those high ranks on a consistent basis.

Medaka improved compared to last week but not well enough to escape the bottom 5. Rilienthal managing to claw its way out is good for it. Hokenshitsu has returned to the basement as though.

I look forward to Mago color.

I'd have liked if Yabuki came up with his own series but oh well, I already decided to go along with it when it was announced the first time.

Kaiten
November 29, 2009, 12:21 AM
Ane Doki is in last two weeks straight. Not good. ITA it is not as good as her other series, she needs some new tricks. Nice to see Mago getting more color so soon!

wingman32x
November 29, 2009, 12:34 AM
Ane Doki is in last two weeks straight. Not good. ITA it is not as good as her other series, she needs some new tricks. Nice to see Mago getting more color so soon!

Wasn't it out of the bottom 5 last week? I don't think it has been last for 2 weeks in a row. Thought Medaka was in dead last, last week but I could be wrong.

Kaiten
November 29, 2009, 12:51 AM
My bad; sixth from bottom last week, last the week before.

wingman32x
November 29, 2009, 01:04 AM
Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Either way It's not good. It'll be interesting to see what gets axed first, Medaka or Ane Doki. Both seem to be on their way out.

ruggia
November 29, 2009, 03:09 AM
so the speculation about Mayoi Neko Overrun was correct huh.

Rilienthal is out of bottom 5, and Ane Doki is doing bad.... Medaka is almost same as usual.

and again, no news of Naoshi Komi....

Crude
November 29, 2009, 07:03 AM
Psyren better get a colour spread for its 100th chapter! Or whatever chapter its 2nd year anniversary is celebrated, whatever...

ruggia
November 29, 2009, 07:08 AM
Psyren better get a colour spread for its 100th chapter! Or whatever chapter its 2nd year anniversary is celebrated, whatever...
or it could become its last chapter, like Mx0 T-T (ended at chap 99...)

lets hope THAT doesn't happen.

Estranho
November 29, 2009, 08:34 AM
The 2nd anniversary of Psyren will be in the first Issue of the year, so for this it won't get color...

Negative Syndicate
November 29, 2009, 10:28 AM
The 2nd anniversary of Psyren will be in the first Issue of the year, so for this it won't get color...

Psyren got its first year anniversary colour on issue 9 of 2009, so it might possible for Psyren to get second year anniversary colour on next year.

On change of subject, I did asked this question, but it got off topic, therefore I didn't get lot of answers. So I'll ask it again. I want to know people's overall review (or response) of 2000s era, also I want to know poeple's top 10 2000s series.

y A M A T O
November 29, 2009, 10:31 AM
or it could become its last chapter, like Mx0 T-T (ended at chap 99...)

lets hope THAT doesn't happen.

mmm it is unrealistic, since chapter 97 opens a new development in the saga. Psyren can not end in a few chapters (hopefully..)

Ramza
November 29, 2009, 11:49 AM
mmm it is unrealistic, since chapter 97 opens a new development in the saga. Psyren can not end in a few chapters (hopefully..)

Remember Shaman King?

Rejuvenation
November 29, 2009, 11:56 AM
Remember Shaman King?

Which was a retarded move by the editors but I'll leave the disdain for another thread. Although Shaman King sold way more than Psyren so Psyren lacking in that department isn't helping it.

kewl0210
November 29, 2009, 01:27 PM
A lot of the time they give a manga its anniversarya couple issues late, like that, with issue 9. Often because those have their actual anniversary while new series are starting or because other series have big things going on. Like with One Piece this year.

Psyren'll probably go on for a while, I don't see it ending soon. It's got a really complex plot and still plenty to go through.

Which reminds me, I wonder if HXH will finish this arc in this next run of chapters... maybe. Seeing as it's gone in all different directions where we can't tell where the story will lead to next.
Course the series isn't going to end, but there could be a new OVA possibly if the arc ends. It certainly sells more than enough to get one, but since the arc has been delayed so much is likely why they never did the rest.

Galactic Tomahawk
November 29, 2009, 03:06 PM
Mx0 was tanking for ages.

Psyren was just in the top three.

Which isn't to say Psyren can't be in danger of course, but I don't think there's a need to worry in the short term.

Kaiten
November 29, 2009, 04:34 PM
Discussion of Yabuki's new series has been moved to the Jump SQ (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16389&page=46) thread.

Xadyu
November 29, 2009, 04:36 PM
Nothing intresting that is, but it's a good enough of an idea for a manga to read for fun.

Probably nothing I would mind staying or going.

Negative Syndicate
November 29, 2009, 05:35 PM
I have quick question. Is Horikoshi Kouhei (who going to be release his one shot on issue 2) a same guy from who appeared on Japanese variety show (Yume, Mirai!).

http://tokai-tv.com/yumemirai/20080622_index_5813.php

Drmke
November 29, 2009, 05:41 PM
When Akamaru comes out, it would be much appreciated if someone could scan the new Kawaguchi oneshot.

[Cross]
November 30, 2009, 06:48 AM
Seems like the shonen jump site is streaming the Toriko and Naruto OVAs. I find it amusing that they spell Toriko incorrectly in the small descriptions and spell it correctly in the titles.

http://www.shonenjump.com/e/animetour/

kewl0210
November 30, 2009, 09:34 AM
They spell the name all multiple ways... but it's properly Toriko. One of only like 3 names actually ever romanized in the series.
Lets me have lots of fun. I can be rebellious and write "Sani" instead of Sunny and stuff like that...

The OVA was awesome, though the art style was really warped from the original. I hope they go closer to how it's normally drawn rather than some weird Gurren Lagann style like they did here.
It was animated by Ufotable which collaberated with Gainex to do Gurren Lagann after all...

[Cross]
November 30, 2009, 10:47 AM
The only fault that I found with the OVA was that it made me ridiculously hungry, and I hate that, but it did feel considerably epic, makes sense now that I know it was that company.

Crude
December 01, 2009, 07:19 AM
Man I LOVED the OVA! It had fantastic production values, for a shounen series at least, and it all clicked so well. I was surprised to see Coco, Sani, Rin and Terry in it though.

Akiyama
December 02, 2009, 04:54 AM
Toriko 2nd :o, It was Beelezebub and Psyren a few weeks ago that had a suprisining ranking and now it's Toriko. Overall I'm very happy with this TOC. The placement of Neko will be fun for the readers, as soon as they are done with a cat theme they will start reading about a supernatural dog name Rilienthal who barely escaped the bottom 5. This weeks color page and next weeks are going to be good. ^_^

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 04:56 AM
Ugh. There's nothing I'm rooting against anymore, these TOC's are no fun. I'll have to start caring when series I like mingle with the big three. Good for Mago and Toriko this week. And is Kochikame really in the top 5? That's different.

ruggia
December 02, 2009, 05:00 AM
rilienthal is barely above the bottom 5....
Mago is in good position, and Kochi is high :p

any info on the people who are doing the oneshots? or are they newcomers? (except for Yabuki of course)

and Gag Manga Biyori coming to WSJ???

EDIT: never mind. ignore the stupid "questions".

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 05:29 AM
Early this week! Thanks Heiji!

Koshi_Inaba
December 02, 2009, 05:51 AM
Good week for Toriko and Mago, can't wait for Mago CP next week. I hope it has more info about the anime

Negative Syndicate
December 02, 2009, 08:06 AM
I heard that Toriyama Akira and Katsura Masakazu (author of I's and Zetman) are making new series together in young jump.

Old news (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693549&postcount=6), thanks though :/

Rejuvenation
December 02, 2009, 09:45 AM
Toriko had a very good week. I'd love to see it that high far more often. Mago is still doing good as well.

Kuroko just barely misses the bottom 5 and Rilienthal isn't that much higher. Already commented on the bottom 5 earlier so not much left to say.

Drmke
December 02, 2009, 10:42 AM
Toriko beats Bleach this week!! Very good news for it. Psyren spending two weeks in a row second from the bottom is not good news. But at least Mago is getting pimped :tem


I heard that Toriyama Akira and Katsura Masakazu (author of I's and Zetman) are making new series together in young jump.

Its just going to be a short series I think.

Mr. Prince
December 02, 2009, 10:58 AM
Oh, so JUMP SQ is celebrating Gag Manga Biyori's 10th anniversary? Nice, I like Biyori...though not as much as Jaguar! *still hopes for...something from Usuta*

Other than that I'm perfectly happy yet again. If it weren't for Bakuman's and Ane-doki's position this ToC would be my favourite in a long time. It's sorta classic yet quite pleasing for me. Combined with another week of well done CPs I'm cool with JUMP's start in the year 2010~

kewl0210
December 02, 2009, 03:18 PM
Toriko's high, where it should be.
Mago, though way back when it was a bottom ranking series, is now starting to stay high. I suppose having a TV anime will only help it.

Most of the rest is pretty normal. Gintama is high, Bakuman is low. Both of those tend to jump a little, but with the recent pimping of Gintama it's likely to stay high.
Kanata and Neko Wappa are still unranked, so their position in the middle doesn't mean much.

I dunno what'll end up getting dropped, but there are a bunch of new series that are low. Given that Bakuman and Kuroko and Psyren are basically safe at this point, Anedoki is coming out with its first volume and Medaka Box is coming out with its second.

I hate the "Jump every other week" season... the tension's so high...

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 03:29 PM
Ane Doki seems likely to be next. It's about time Kawashita switches to SQ, her style would fit better over there. Given the barrage of one shots starting there may only be one cancellation next time. In late January, if I have to guess.

KuwabaraTheMan
December 02, 2009, 03:31 PM
I dunno what'll end up getting dropped, but there are a bunch of new series that are low. Given that Bakuman and Kuroko and Psyren are basically safe at this point, Anedoki is coming out with its first volume and Medaka Box is coming out with its second.

I imagine whichever of those two volumes sells less will probably be canceled. They aren't going to keep both Medaka and Ane Doki around while neither are really doing exceptionally well.

ruggia
December 02, 2009, 03:35 PM
Ane Doki seems likely to be next. It's about time Kawashita switches to SQ, her style would fit better over there now. Given the barrage of one shots starting there may only be one cancellation next time. In late January, if I have to guess.

hmm. i feel like Medaka is a more likely candidate, though I feel both needs to go. (I'm guessing Ane Doki will do fairly well on the sales like Hatsukoi for vol 1.)

but isn't it too much for everyone to move to SQ? there's already fair amount of WSJ mangaka moving in SQ, and although I don't really mind seeing the mangaka getting more places to serialize, its just the feeling that SQ is becoming Shueisha's recycling bin.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 04:07 PM
Ane Doki is starting to poll worse than Medaka. Considering Hatsukoi had solid sales and was still canceled AneDoki could end the same.

Considering her style and the direction the magazine is going Kawashita would fit in with SQ better than she would WSJ. She certainly wouldn't fit in the seinen anthologies. Until you see SQ develop a new mangaka you'll see more of the WSJ who's audience have outgrown the magazine moving to SQ.

Drmke
December 02, 2009, 04:23 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Kawashita moving to SQ. I would actually prefer it to her staying in WSJ. I think they should just cut three series next time. Hunter x Hunter won't stay for long so its not like there won't be room.

Negative Syndicate
December 02, 2009, 04:29 PM
The series that are in danger right now is Medaka, Ane Dokii, Hokenshitsu, and Rilienthal. Depend on how many series going to be in on next new series line-up, minimum two series going to be axed. Also, on my point of view, Hokenshitsu and Rilienthal are doing slightly better than Medaka and Ane Dokii.

Also, I'm not sure Kawashita going to be fit with Square because they already have romantic-comedy series: Rosario, Dr. Ruru, and upcoming Mayoi-neko. So, if Kawashita moved to Square, she should try different genre or mixed with romantic-comedy.

On change of subject, I'm going to wonder if Metallica going to include on next line-up.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 05:51 PM
On change of subject, I'm going to wonder if Metallica going to include on next line-up.

Depends on when the next set come but it would be a reasonable expectation. The Golden Cup winners seem to come in early spring, late February or early March. Since everything seems to be coming early this year a late January start for Metallica seems reasonable.

Crude
December 02, 2009, 05:52 PM
I didn't get to see a picture of Metallica. Could someone post one?

Anyway, good to see that Sket Dance gets a colour page and that Mago's getting one as well. Its also good to see Toriko in such a high position again even though its still technically at the beginning of an arc (a big one I'm thinking).

Rejuvenation
December 02, 2009, 05:59 PM
After looking at its rankings Rilienthal has collectively done worse than Hokenshitsu. Unless we see a reversal(Which could be possible) I think the poor dog may get put to sleep before the Shinigami.

I'll agree on Medaka and Ane doki likely competing with each other sales-wise. Assuming one of them doesn't just completely tank and show Kagijin/Hoopmen syndrome before then to seal their fate.


I wouldn't mind seeing Kawashita moving to SQ. I would actually prefer it to her staying in WSJ. I think they should just cut three series next time. Hunter x Hunter won't stay for long so its not like there won't be room.

Why 3? Along with HxH leaving that is 4 series that they would be trying to bring in. I think its likely they end up cutting only one this time for whenever HxH leaves so that would be 2 spots already. They already killed 3 last round granted Waji was a gag manga.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 06:09 PM
Don't forget there will be a run of one shots in issue 2, 3 - 4, and 5 - 6. I'm expecting new series to start debuting somewhere between issue 7 and 9 so one new series just to fill the space the one shots will be taking.

Drmke
December 02, 2009, 06:16 PM
Why 3? Along with HxH leaving that is 4 series that they would be trying to bring in. I think its likely they end up cutting only one this time for whenever HxH leaves so that would be 2 spots already. They already killed 3 last round granted Waji was a gag manga.

Just random guess :p It all really depends on how many series they get lined up. Metalica is a definite eventually probably in the next set and Crown! has a high chance of showing up as well, and then maybe another new manga. They could still cut four to leave room for one-shots.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 06:22 PM
Crown!, the runner up could be reserved for further down the road. Three new series is feasible. Thankfully they'll make space with only two cancellations. I don't think this round will be timed right for HxH to be one. The last round of new series was issues 50 and 51, with HxH starting at 5 - 6 and an 8 to 10 week gap between new series Hunter will most likely still be running.

Drmke
December 02, 2009, 06:42 PM
Crown! might even come before Metalica. Muddy came a set before Mago in 2008.

Digital_Eon
December 02, 2009, 08:36 PM
but isn't it too much for everyone to move to SQ? there's already fair amount of WSJ mangaka moving in SQ, and although I don't really mind seeing the mangaka getting more places to serialize, its just the feeling that SQ is becoming Shueisha's recycling bin.

Some of the mangaka moving to SQ are really successful, though! (In sales, anyway, if not the ToC.) A number of mangaka that previously worked on WSJ series have shifted to an older audience with time (...like Katsura, was it?), and that seems to be more what's happening here. The reason many of those series didn't do so well in the ToC was because they had a different fanbase than the preteen boys WSJ usually aims for (or those boys didn't want to vote for the more, uh, fanservice-y series).

I do worry what this means for Jump, though. If mangaka who will be writing unique series that appeal to other audiences (like girls or older teens), will there be less of that in WSJ? Less variety? I haven't been following this thread for very long, but it feels like only a few series stand out to people these days, and that new series don't have as much appeal... Could be wrong, though.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 09:14 PM
That's how it always has been. Look at Katsura, Inoue and Morita who are now serialized in Young Jump. Inoue is also serialized in Morning which is aimed even older. Captain Tsubasa, Nube, JoJo, Fist of the North Star, and City Hunters all have spin offs in seinen magazines now too. Even Toriyama is moving to Young Jump, in a collaboration with Katsura (all be it for a short series) that starts in two weeks. Not only has it not hurt Jump, it probably has made it stronger. Unlike Magazine or Sunday space is opened for young mangaka to make an impact.

Digital_Eon
December 02, 2009, 10:26 PM
That's how it always has been. Look at Katsura, Inoue and Morita who are now serialized in Young Jump. Inoue is also serialized in Morning which is aimed even older. Captain Tsubasa, Nube, JoJo, Fist of the North Star, and City Hunters all have spin offs in seinen magazines now too. Even Toriyama is moving to Young Jump, in a collaboration with Katsura (all be it for a short series) that starts in two weeks. Not only has it not hurt Jump, it probably has made it stronger. Unlike Magazine or Sunday space is opened for young mangaka to make an impact.

But the audiences of Young Jump and Morning don't usually overlap with potential WSJ readers, I thought. Mangaka moving is nothing new - I just thought that SQ's presence might mean something new, changes in the types of series that get put into Weekly Jump because SQ is open for things that are a little more mature, or appeal to females. But perhaps not...

Negative Syndicate
December 02, 2009, 10:31 PM
Just random guess :p It all really depends on how many series they get lined up. Metalica is a definite eventually probably in the next set and Crown! has a high chance of showing up as well, and then maybe another new manga. They could still cut four to leave room for one-shots.

I don't mind if the editors serialized Crown because I think Jump should have another sport manga. But if they serialized new sport manga, I want to see Jump to serialize Buchikamashi, it going to be interesting for new sport manga.

Drmke
December 02, 2009, 10:54 PM
I don't mind if the editors serialized Crown because I think Jump should have another sport manga. But if they serialized new sport manga, I want to see Jump to serialize Buchikamashi, it going to be interesting for new sport manga.

What is that one about?

And yeah I hope Crown! gets a shot because it might mean a resurgence of sports series in Jump again which would be fun. But I would rather see Kawaguchi's new series get serialized or I believe there was a oneshot about bike riding a little while back that looked like it might be good.

Negative Syndicate
December 02, 2009, 11:03 PM
What is that one about?

And yeah I hope Crown! gets a shot because it might mean a resurgence of sports series in Jump again which would be fun. But I would rather see Kawaguchi's new series get serialized or I believe there was a oneshot about bike riding a little while back that looked like it might be good.

Buchikamashi is one shot about break dancing that released at Issue 11 of 2009, right after one shot of Medaka Box. Also, the illustrator is assistant of Murata, so the artwork looks similar from Murata's artwork.

Kaiten
December 02, 2009, 11:07 PM
But the audiences of Young Jump and Morning don't usually overlap with potential WSJ readers, I thought. Mangaka moving is nothing new - I just thought that SQ's presence might mean something new, changes in the types of series that get put into Weekly Jump because SQ is open for things that are a little more mature, or appeal to females. But perhaps not...

Jump's and SQ don't as much as it may seem. Most of Jump's audience is under 15, it is geared very young compared to other Shonen. SQ is competing more with GanGan, Dengeki Daioh, and Shonen Ace. They are more of the High School magazine.

StrangerAtaru
December 04, 2009, 01:25 PM
Got this info from Arlong Park but we got the data on the big volumes of the year (Jump in bold):

*1, 2,057,528 One Piece vol.53
*2, 1,963,696 One Piece vol.54
*3, 1,952,551 One Piece vol.52
*4, 1,810,410 One Piece vol.55
*5, 1,505,575 NANA vol.21
*6, 1,277,733 Fullmetal Alchemist vol.23
*7, 1,271,340 Fullmetal Alchemist vol.21
*8, 1,238,354 Fullmetal Alchemist vol.22
*9. 1,222,356 Naruto vol.45
10, 1,186,478 Naruto vol.47
11, 1,184,722 Nodame Cantabile vol.22
12, 1,119,917 Naruto vol.46
13, *,996,398 Naruto vol.48
14, *,955,085 Bleach vol.36
15, *,944,066 Bleach vol.37
16, *,888,622 Bleach vol.38
17, *,879,612 Saint Young Men vol.3
18, *,850,059 Bleach vol.40
19, *,841,028 Bleach vol.39
20, *.790,656 Kimi ni Todoke vol.8
21, *,741,831 Kimi ni Todoke vol.9
22, *,738,404 Bleach vol.41
23, *,692,649 Saint Young Men vol.4
24, *,659,512 Kuroshitsuji vol.6
25, *,642,263 Detective Conan vol.64
26, *,641,606 Pluto vol.7
27, *,641,155 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! vol.23
28, *,636,506 D.Gray-man vol.17
29, *,633,052 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! vol.24
30, *,616,762 Kuroshitsuji vol.7
31, *,603,223 Detective Conan vol.65
32, *,601,347 Vagabond vol.29
33, *,592,537 Gintama vol.26
34, *,587,871 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! vol.25
35, *,587,464 Gintama vol.27
36, *,586,978 Glass Mask vol.43
37, *,574,661 Pluto vol.8
38, *,561,582 Gintama vol.28
39, *,556,422 Vagabond vol.30
40, *,547,499 Saint Young Men vol.1
41, *,525.802 D.Gray-man vol.18
42, *,520,281 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! vol.26
43, *,514,524 Ookiku Furikabutte vol.12
44, *,511,070 Gintama vol.29
45, *,511,065 Vagabond vol.41
46, *,508,124 3 Gatsu no Lion vol.2
47, *,496,962 3 Gatsu no Lion vol.3
48, *,494,509 Saint Young Men vol.2
49, *,488,106 xxxHOLiC vol.14
50, *,480,711 Ouran High School Host Club vol.14

Top 10 Series:
*1, 14,721,241 One Piece
*2, *6,836,494 Naruto
*3, *6,471,021 Bleach
*4, *5,810,522 Fullmetal Alchemist
*5, *4,733,511 Gintama
*6, *3,694,323 Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
*7, *3,076,659 Mei-chan no Shitsuji
*8, *2,886,942 Fairy Tail
*9, *2,655,379 20th Century Boys
10, *2,614,269 Saint Young Men

A tad surprised Gintama beat Reborn in amount of volumes sold...but unfortunately it still needs a long way to finally get into the top 3. And yeah...OP rocks, nuff said.

KuwabaraTheMan
December 04, 2009, 01:32 PM
A tad surprised Gintama beat Reborn in amount of volumes sold...but unfortunately it still needs a long way to finally get into the top 3. And yeah...OP rocks, nuff said.

Although both had 4 volumes make the Top 50, Gintama had 6 volumes release during the year, while Reborn only had 4. That's why Gintama managed to finished higher than it in total sales for the year.

Kaiten
December 04, 2009, 10:20 PM
Jump dominating the top 50 was hardly surprising. If any one remembers the top 50 for the first half of the year Bakuman. was also there. While it wasn't able to make this full year list I bet it will next year.

Negative Syndicate
December 04, 2009, 10:57 PM
Current Shonen Jump's Jbook ranking:

1. One Piece volume 56
2. Bleach volume 42
3. Katekyou Hitman Reborn! volume 27
5. Nurarihyon no Mago volume 8
6. Toriko volume 7
8. Medaka Box volume 2
10. Ane Dokii volume 1
12. Naruto Kai no Shou
22. Akaboshi Ibun-Suikoden volume 2
27. One Piece volume 55
29. Naruto volume 49
39. Gintama volume 31
42. Medaka Box volume 1

It looks like both Medaka and Ane are doing pretty good.

Kaiten
December 04, 2009, 11:09 PM
We saw a few months ago that the Jbook and Amazon pre - release rankings don't have much baring on actual sales. I don't expect much from Medaka, maybe improving into the 40,000 copy range. Since Ane is by an established mangaka it might have solid sales. Her reputation isn't as high as Obata or Urasawa so I wouldn't expect first volumes sales to be as high as Bakuman. or Billy Bat.

Negative Syndicate
December 05, 2009, 03:29 PM
I want to ask you guys that does Jump Bang actually helped to increase the sales for Jump magazine and volume sells? If it did, does anyone know how much did it help?

v3g374
December 05, 2009, 04:41 PM
So this is my chart of 2009 and 2010. I try and keep updated every week. I hope you think its useful.
JUMP 2009 (http://yaibafan.extra.hu/JKP/2009.htm)
JUMP 2010 (http://yaibafan.extra.hu/JKP/2010.htm)

Koshi_Inaba
December 05, 2009, 06:47 PM
December VOMIC in Sakiyomi Jumbang will be Nurarihyon no Mago. The seiyus:
Nura Rikuo - Eri Kitamura
Nurarihyon - Chikao Otsuka
Yuki-Onna - Yui Horie
Aotabou - Hiroki Yasumoto
Karasu Tengu - Junji Majima
Kana Ienaga - Shion Hiroto
Narrator - Shinpachi Tsuji

R4n
December 06, 2009, 03:33 AM
Remember Shaman King?

oh ya, i remember it ended very abruptly, what happened actually? (this might not be a good thread to ask this... but this question had been bugging me forever...)

Akiyama
December 06, 2009, 04:33 AM
I wasn't around back then but I think I found an answer in the Shaman King thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241).



It was cancelled? meaning.. they decided to stop the story and ended it abruptly??well, jump is powered by the popularity polls and shaman king had been falling in the polls (there were probably other signs) so they told Takei that they were ending it at chapter 285. The story was getting good before that too. He had to make up some ending and have that be the unofficial official ending (i say unofficial because it says Owari (end) with a tangerine next to it which in japanese means incomplete)

It was later serialized in SQ What Heiji said and finished at chapter 300.

Negative Syndicate
December 06, 2009, 10:32 AM
654 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/07(月) 00:19:12 ID:gvrtFkbj0
スマンが明日にしてくりゃれ
スレチのネタしかないわ

I think there is no koneta today, ◆EizHb38XPU said the koneta will be release at tomorrow.

Also, ◆EizHb38XPU said;


698 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/07(月) 00:23:35 ID:gvrtFkbj0
完全なスレチだよw
YJのB型H系がテレビアニメ化だとか

It looks like B-gata H-kei (series from Young Jump) going to become animation.

Mr. Prince
December 06, 2009, 10:58 AM
I think there is no koneta today, ◆EizHb38XPU said the koneta will be release at tomorrow.
Yeah...sucks...

He excuses but he won't be able to get stuff until tomorrow
For now he only got offtopic spoilers
[Guess they asked him what kinda spoilers he got]
And so he answered: it got completely nothing to do with WSJ/the WSJ thread@2ch
It's about Young JUMP's "B-gata H-kei" getting a TV anime and stuff
Can't be helped...though I was looking forward to the bottom spoilers. : (

Negative Syndicate
December 07, 2009, 12:31 PM
615 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/08(火) 02:17:46 ID:Tl8UqZIoO
小ネタ
・2ドベ6 姉、犬、保健、ぬらり、スケ、めだか
・爆テレビアニメ化 ETV 秋
・3・4巻頭@ C爆、読切、連載陣番外編4コマ


Issue 2 Bottom 6:
Medaka
Sket Dance
Nurarihyon
Hokenshitsu
Rilienthal
Ane Dokii

Bakuman going to become animation at autumn, and aired in ETV.

Issue 3・4 CP: Naruto (I think it is, correct me if I'm wrong), Bakuman, One Shot, plus 4 koma by currently running series.

kewl0210
December 07, 2009, 12:32 PM
615 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/08(火) 02:17:46 ID:Tl8UqZIoO
小ネタ
・2ドベ6 姉、犬、保健、ぬらり、スケ、めだか
・爆テレビアニメ化 ETV 秋
・3・4巻頭@ C爆、読切、連載陣番外編4コマ

Koneta
Bottom 6:
Medaka
Sket
Nurari
Hokenshitsu
Rilienthal
Ane

Bakuman TV Anime decided. ETV Fall.

Issue 3-4
Cover: Naruto
Color Pages: Bakuman, One Shot, Serialized Group 4-Koma Compilation

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
No, makes sense. Bakuman is not likely to be so long that it would need to have such a huge buffer and allow for filler. Plus with SO MUCH talking in each chapter it's not likely they'll even need to do 2 chapters an episode... So it's fine they're doing an anime with only 65 chapters. Also this isn't until almost a year from now it would seem...

Kaiten
December 07, 2009, 12:34 PM
Bakuman anime already!! I expected Toriko first, but at least we know that's coming. How did Mago drop into the bottom 5. Not happy about that, at least we know it is the same as Bakuman or Beelze falling. Ane and Rilienthal are starting to shape up as the next two out.

Googlez_kun
December 07, 2009, 12:37 PM
yeah!!!bakuman gets an anime!!that makes me happy!:D
and i'm also looking forward to the naruto cover and the bakuman color!

ane doki on the very last again is something mean though

kewl0210
December 07, 2009, 12:39 PM
Toriko DID get an anime first, but it was an OVA.
Toriko though on the other hand would have the typical pacing and would do 2 or so chapters an episode and need a larger buffer. Bakuman will most likely end around the same length as Death Note, 108 chapters, the manga will probably be over by the time the anime starts.

Oh, and hey, Psyren's not in the bottom 6...

Negative Syndicate
December 07, 2009, 12:41 PM
Nurarihyon's ranking is based on chapter 80. I guess Japanese readers didn't like the battle between two onmyoujis.

Also, Ane is now in very dangerous position now, at this rate Ane will be gone on next round of canellation. Also for second one to be out, I think it might be Rilienthal because I think Rilienthal is slightly doing worse than Hokenshitsu.

xerxes
December 07, 2009, 12:44 PM
615 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/08(火) 02:17:46 ID:Tl8UqZIoO
小ネタ
・2ドベ6 姉、犬、保健、ぬらり、スケ、めだか
・爆テレビアニメ化 ETV 秋
・3・4巻頭@ C爆、読切、連載陣番外編4コマ

Koneta
Bottom 6:
Medaka
Sket
Nurari
Hokenshitsu
Rilienthal
Ane

Bakuman TV Anime decided. ETV Fall.

Issue 3-4
Cover: Naruto
Color Pages: Bakuman, One Shot, Serialized Group 4-Koma Compilation

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
No, makes sense. Bakuman is not likely to be so long that it would need to have such a huge buffer and allow for filler. Plus with SO MUCH talking in each chapter it's not likely they'll even need to do 2 chapters an episode... So it's fine they're doing an anime with only 65 chapters. Also this isn't until almost a year from now it would seem...

Not happy with Mago dropping in the Bottom 5. What is with the cp that Mago should get this week?

jose
December 07, 2009, 12:54 PM
Psyren out of b5, good.

Asta la vista Ane Doki.

Bakuman anime will begin together with Mago?

Rejuvenation
December 07, 2009, 12:56 PM
Hmm a bad week for Mago. It will probably bounce back next week. Sket seems to have slipped back into the bottom while Psyren finally got out.

Medaka once again manages to just barely escape the Bottom 5. Which is good for it if it stays above other series so they can take the bullet instead until it can get some kind of momentum going with its recent arc and volume sales.

Ane Doki continues to occupy last for the 3rd time in 4 weeks. Its volume sales should be interesting as well.

Hokenshitsu continues to bottom dwell as well as Rilienthal. Both are likely to be removed in the near future if they plummet even further. Not that I'm complaining there.

They wasted no time in making Bakuman an anime. That was pretty fast. Makes me wonder if the manga will be close to finishing by the time the anime rolls around.

kewl0210
December 07, 2009, 01:00 PM
Mago is supposed to be a color page this week, so maybe it's unranked... But who knows, maybe something changed. That happens occasionally.

With that in mind, the chances that Ane-Doki or Medaka Box will end the following issue is high, as HXH comes back the next week.

And my prediction for next anime after Toriko is... either Psyren or Beelzebub.
Probably Beelzebub... Unless something gets a second anime like DGM or HXH.
Though it's debatable whether Psyren or Kuroko will ever get an anime...

ruggia
December 07, 2009, 01:01 PM
ane seems to have took the spot of Kagijin/Akaboshi, while MB is actually doing better if we compare it to previous ranks.

hurray!!!!!!! for Bakuman anime! thats a good news.

and whats up with Mago :p maybe the author handed the work in late?

EDIT: this was worth the delay :D

[Cross]
December 07, 2009, 01:08 PM
Well, Bakuman is really cutting it close, it'll be past its second year mark close to Autumn of 2010 (like a month or two after) so I suppose it's appropriate. But they really didn't waste time did they? It seems there will be a slew of new Jump anime in the next year since we have Mago and Bakuman, probably Toriko as well.

StrangerAtaru
December 07, 2009, 01:24 PM
I really don't get why the heck Bakuman would get an anime announcement now if it's supposed to be for the fall. The only real excuse I have is it's still sort of riding on the "Ohba and Obata did Death Note" bandwagon and wants to maximize it's potential by hyping it up over the next year or so. I mean it sort of was obvious it was probably going to get one, but I still think the announcement feels...too early.

As for the bottom five...well, it feels refreshing to see Psyren not down there...but something does seem up with the Mago placement. (unless that's a screw-up somehow or another with the CP) And yeah...Ane Doki is toast.

Negative Syndicate
December 07, 2009, 01:32 PM
I think Mago is unranked because it got colour. I think the reason for Mago is placed on bottom 5 is that there are too many colours on Issue 3・4; One Piece, Gag Manga Biyori, One Shot, and Mago. Reborn also had placed on bottom 5 when it got colour because there are four colours, so one series has to be placed in bottom 5.

KuwabaraTheMan
December 07, 2009, 01:51 PM
Bakuman anime was expected, although I'm surprised they announced it so far in advance. Hopefully there's a strong studio attached to it.


And my prediction for next anime after Toriko is... either Psyren or Beelzebub.
Probably Beelzebub... Unless something gets a second anime like DGM or HXH.
Though it's debatable whether Psyren or Kuroko will ever get an anime...

I would think Sket Dance would be next after Toriko.

Beelzebub and Kuroko are likely for 2011 anime. Maybe Psyren if it manages to survive until then, but that really depends.

Siberia
December 07, 2009, 02:05 PM
I guess Bakuman is gonna have the same length as Death Note's so it will be about to end when its anime starts next Fall.

Crude
December 07, 2009, 03:34 PM
It could still be running while the anime's on air. I suspect Madhouse might be in charge of the adaptation due to Death Note's success (although the latter had a movie series).

Koshi_Inaba
December 07, 2009, 04:18 PM
Mago is unranked because it got color. Bakuman anime, huh? Can't wait for it

Drmke
December 07, 2009, 04:22 PM
Bakuman anime is sweet though weird that its announced so early. Glad Psyren isn't down there for at least one week. Even if Mago doesn't have color, one week low isn't anything to worry about.

And Ane Doki and Rilienthal and gonna go next....I feel it. Maybe Shinigami or Medaka too.

jose
December 07, 2009, 04:36 PM
I feel the same here Drmke, ane doki and lilienthal will be axed soon.

Kaiten
December 07, 2009, 06:12 PM
What surprised me about Bakuman is the April adaption. I expected Sket and Mago this Spring with Toriko and Bakuman following in October. I guess Sket will have to wait for the fall. I've never seen a WSJ series get a summer anime but that isn't out of the question.

Drmke
December 07, 2009, 06:32 PM
What surprised me about Bakuman is the April adaption. I expected Sket and Mago this Spring with Toriko and Bakuman following in October. I guess Sket will have to wait for the fall. I've never seen a WSJ series get a summer anime but that isn't out of the question.

I thought it was Autumn and not April Bakuman's anime was coming?

Koshi_Inaba
December 07, 2009, 06:38 PM
Yeah, it's on autumn. Can anyone tell me when that would be? Also, just went to the preview for issue 2 in Jump's website, Mago got color, nothing to worry about.

Kaiten
December 07, 2009, 06:51 PM
Oh, the Bakuman anime is for Autumn. Should have read closer :/
[hr]

Yeah, it's on autumn. Can anyone tell me when that would be?

First week of October.

wingman32x
December 07, 2009, 08:15 PM
Medaka should be the next out. I don't know why they would axe Ane first. Medaka, up until recently, has been polling 2nd to last or dead last. This is the first time Ane has spent more than 1 consecutive week in the bottom 5. I don't get why you guys think Ane should get axed first when Medaka has polled much worse. I mean, at least Ane pulled out the next week when it hit the bottom 5, medaka just stayed there.

Drmke
December 07, 2009, 08:25 PM
Medaka should be the next out. I don't know why they would axe Ane first. Medaka, up until recently, has been polling 2nd to last or dead last. This is the first time Ane has spent more than 1 consecutive week in the bottom 5. I don't get why you guys think Ane should get axed first when Medaka has polled much worse. I mean, at least Ane pulled out the next week when it hit the bottom 5, medaka just stayed there.

At the moment Ane Doki is doing worse than Medaka and when cancellations come around, that is what will matter, who is doing worse. Even if Medaka was last for ten weeks but then pulled up and stayed up through cancellation season and Ane Doki had been higher than Medaka but sunk to bottom during that time, Ane Doki is most likely to go. I actually like Ane much more than Medaka but its at the most risk right now.

SSJWill4
December 07, 2009, 08:58 PM
Issue 3-4
Cover: Naruto
Color Pages: Bakuman, One Shot, Serialized Group 4-Koma Compilation


No Psyren color for 100 chapters? RIPOFF!

Negative Syndicate
December 07, 2009, 09:09 PM
No Psyren color for 100 chapters? RIPOFF!

But, Psyren might get a colour for 2nd year anniversary.

kewl0210
December 07, 2009, 09:16 PM
Psyren's reward for getting to 100 chapters is not being canceled one more week. It should be grateful.

I mean... it'll probably get a cover/color after the new years events and all have finished.

[Cross]
December 07, 2009, 09:27 PM
Psyren's reward for getting to 100 chapters is not being canceled one more week. It should be grateful.

You don't know how much that made me laugh >.>
Well I'm still rooting for a colour, at least.

Kaiten
December 07, 2009, 09:35 PM
How many series get color/cover in the exact issue of their anniversary? Almost none. Not even One Piece. Psyren will get color pages sometime soon. Not to worry.

predsfan
December 08, 2009, 12:43 AM
How many series get color/cover in the exact issue of their anniversary? Almost none. Not even One Piece. Psyren will get color pages sometime soon. Not to worry.

This, and chapter number never really seems to coincide with color pages. If I remember correctly, One Piece didn't even get a color page for it's 500th chapter, and that is far more momentous than 100 chapters.

Also, what Kewl said made me lol.

Quick question, it's a general consensus that Mago is unranked this time, correct? It is getting color pages, right?

Kaiten
December 08, 2009, 12:51 AM
Mago is getting color, it just got dumped in the back with the one shot in the center.

One Piece got and anniversary for chapter 508 if I'm not mistaken.

Koen
December 08, 2009, 08:32 AM
Psyren's reward for getting to 100 chapters is not being canceled one more week. It should be grateful.

I mean... it'll probably get a cover/color after the new years events and all have finished.

Why...? (http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3100000/why-so-serious-the-joker-3122768-1024-768.jpg) :p

anyway, iirc the fight with Junas is determining psyren's current position. It seems people don't like those dead, silent moments. I look forward to the boost given by the Miroku vs Grana fight

Kaiten
December 08, 2009, 10:57 AM
Since it missed the bottom 5 this week it must be doing something right :/

Actually, it always makes me happy when Psyren is not part of the bottom 5. One of the best thing about the TOC this year is how rare such a low ranking is.

Mr. Prince
December 09, 2009, 10:24 AM
Full ToC is out. It was posted by good ol' Himajin (he didn't log in but his ID matches some insider info post @ ToLove-ru's thread):

One Piece (Cover + Opening Color)
Naruto
Bleach
Bakuman
Gintama
Inumaru dashi
Kuroko no Basuke
Oumagadoki Doubutsuen [OS] (CP)
Katekyou Hitman REBORN!
Shinseiki Idol Densetsu Kanata Seven Change
Beelzebub
Gag Manga Biyori (CP)
Neko Wappa!
Psyren
Kochikame
Toriko
Medaka Box
Sket Dance
Nurarihyon no Mago (CP)
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Kashikoi Ken Rilienthal
Ane-doki
Pyuu to fuku! Jaguar

Drmke
December 09, 2009, 10:25 AM
Look high Bakuman is :tem Psyren isn't very high but at least its not in the bottom 5. Toriko's low but I'm pretty sure its been ranking those really boring chapters that were setting up the current arc.

kewl0210
December 09, 2009, 10:42 AM
Himajin's back huh? Interesting. Probably because HXH is coming back.

I dunno why Toriko's low, seriously. Especially after being high last week and most of the last few weeks. I suppose it's because it relates to the less action oriented chapters. Nor do I know why Kuroko is so high. Rest is pretty normal, plus a lot is unranked.

It's still weird about Mago being low while having a color page, but whatever. They do that occasionally. I guess it's because there are so many color pages.

Majin_Reid
December 09, 2009, 10:46 AM
Here is issue 01. I'm working on combining the 3 One Piece covers. Is anybody else doing this? Cause damn it's a lot of work, >_< the ones I bought don't exactly line up evenly.



2010 Issue 01
http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc505/th_73158_2010-01_9RQ7_122_505lo.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73158_2010-01_9RQ7_122_505lo.jpg)

Added! Thanks!!

Rejuvenation
December 09, 2009, 03:25 PM
Mostly looks like business as usual besides the announcement and color placings.

Toriko far too low and Kuroko is a bit on the high side.

Will be nice if Psyren stays away from the bottom 5 for a few weeks.

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 04:00 PM
With four(!!) cp's this week I'm not that surprised Mago was pushed down. Not sure what purpose it serves having Biyori in WSJ and giving it color. Toriko spends some time towards the bottom nowadays so I won't really complain. It's established enough not to worry to much. Kind of weird not having series I care about in the bottom 5. Medaka and Ane are nice but I'll hardly cry should they be canceled.

Negative Syndicate
December 09, 2009, 04:19 PM
Not sure what purpose it serves having Biyori in WSJ and giving it color.

I think the colour for Biyori on Jump is meant for its 10th year anniversary.

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 05:24 PM
I know but shouldn't it's anniversary be in the magazine where it is serialized -_-;

Not that big a deal to me, just a source of minor amusement.

Bit of a heads up. The Oricon rankings will be out soon. Mago 8 sold better Toriko 7, the first time Mago has had better first week sales. One Pieces sales are even more mind numbing then usual.

Akiyama
December 09, 2009, 05:57 PM
Manga Rankings 11/30 - 12/6
Surprise, Surprise :amuse

1. One Piece volume 56 (1,363,868) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
2. Bleach volume 42 (475,911) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
4. Reborn! volume 27 (253,866) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
*5. D.Gray-man volume 19 (244,049) (Jump SQ)
8. Nurarihyon no Mago volume 8 (109,637) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
9. Toriko volume 7 (102,567) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
14. Ane-Doki volume 1 (54,618) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
15. Medaka Box volume 2 (54,194) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
16. Naruto 10th Anniversary Book (53,744) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
26. Naruto volume 48 (27,759/1,066,694) (Weekly Shonen Jump)

*Sure it's published with SQ now but most of the chapters in this volume were serialized in WSJ.

Koshi_Inaba
December 09, 2009, 06:06 PM
I'm amazed at Mago, this prove that the recent high rankings wasn't just a fluke. Medaka improve steadily, looks like it's going to stay here for a while.

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 06:08 PM
Medaka jumping from unranked to a 50,000 copy first week in one volume definitely helps. At the least it makes it easier to cancel Shinigami and Rilienthal first. Same goes for Ane, it's first week was pretty solid. Similar sales did not help Hatsukoi though.

KuwabaraTheMan
December 09, 2009, 06:22 PM
I imagine that Medaka and Ane Doki will both be safe from the next cut with those sales. Both are pretty solid numbers. Naruto seems to be pulling a mini-One Piece, still being on the chart when the next month's Jump volumes come out.

Ronin88
December 09, 2009, 06:35 PM
Does anyone know how long mago's anime is gonna be? Is it gonna be a 12 eps, 24 eps or more or ongoing? Or is it just going to be a OVA?

kewl0210
December 09, 2009, 06:41 PM
Mago's anime probably isn't planned to be ended. They're gonna try to promote it as a new "big series" like with Eyeshield and Reborn and all.
Toriko and Mago are about the same. Toriko's been lower than it, seeing as it's been around for less time... A few issues back. But there's only a difference of like 5000.
And sales for both of which are much higher, this is the first time they've been over 100,000 in the first week.

And 50,000 is about typical for a low-ranking manga. Well it's high enough to say it has fans, like 30,000 is for like, what'd get canceled. Anyone know what kinda sales Hoopmen 1 or Akaboshi 1 got? I'm pretty sure they got tankoubons out before they were canceled and didn't show up on the top list.

Koshi_Inaba
December 09, 2009, 06:42 PM
We don't know yet, there haven't been any further information. We will probably get more after the drama CD for Mago is released on December 18. OVA is definitely out of the question, since the announcement clearly said "TV anime"

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 06:48 PM
50,000 in the first week is great for a first or second volume, unless it is by a very famous mangaka (had Bakuman been that low it would have been a disaster). By volume 4 or 5, not so great. Not for a Jump series anyway.

Mr. Prince
December 09, 2009, 06:53 PM
Anyone know what kinda sales Hoopmen 1 or Akaboshi 1 got? I'm pretty sure they got tankoubons out before they were canceled and didn't show up on the top list.
Hoopmen 1 came out the same week the series got canceled :'( And so it didn't even make the Oricon Top 100.
AKABOSHI 1 made 24,640 in two weeks.
Other than those two, Bokke 1 sold 18,967 and Bokke 2 9,440.

Negative Syndicate
December 09, 2009, 06:55 PM
Both Mago's and Toriko's sales aren't high as I expected. They both serialized for an year now, so I think their tank sells should be more higher by now.

Also, both Medaka's and Ane's tank sells are pretty high, but I think they are not still out of danger yet. Jump had some series that axed despite of pretty good tank sells.

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 07:19 PM
No, Mago and Toriko's sales are quite good. Neither has an anime or any merchandise to promote further sales. Anything that sells 300,000 or more copies, as both consistently do, is an exception, most manga never even get close to that.

Koshi_Inaba
December 09, 2009, 07:28 PM
Agree with kaiten. Not to mention, compare to two previous volumes Mago and Toriko has improved much. The sixth volume for Mago and the fifth for Toriko was released on august 4th, Tuesday, meaning Oricon count the sales for both series from Tuesday to Sunday,six days, both got 120k and 130k respectively.
The seventh for Mago and sixth for Toriko was released October 2nd, Friday. Counting from friday to sunday, three days, Mago only 80k and Toriko 90k. This time it was released on friday, again the count is for three days but it still manage to broke 100k.

Drmke
December 09, 2009, 07:39 PM
Yay for Toriko and Mago doing great!! :tem One Piece is getting closer and closer to 1,500,000 for a first week release. I'll say maybe volume 60 does this. Medaka and Ane Doki are doing much better than expected. Maybe this could save one of them, both is possible, but I keep thinking Jump will try to put in a lot of new series in February....

Rejuvenation
December 09, 2009, 07:48 PM
Toriko and Mago did pretty good this week. I like seeing them both rise with each other. I'm interested in seeing how much of a boost they get from their anime adaptions when they come around.

Medaka and Ane Doki both gave me a surprise. That and they both could have a good 2nd week too. If they manage to put up more than Psyren in their next volumes I won't be surprised.

Although I doubt we will see an axe when HxH returns, this definitely makes it easier to cancel Hokenshitsu and Rilienthal. Plus Neko and Kanata will be properly ranked in a few weeks so there is that to consider too. Although there hasn't been an absolute swift bomb since Meister.

StrangerAtaru
December 09, 2009, 07:53 PM
Mago can only up from here. It's rather impossible to expect it to reach "Big 3" numbers but the moment the anime start, I sort of expect it to just grow much larger than even where it stands now. (though seeing it higher than Toriko now is a tad weird with Toriko's initial hype...but I guess people have built a base that's not just hype for Mago)

Oh, and seeing OP triple Bleach's sales makes me smile.

Kaiten
December 09, 2009, 08:01 PM
OP sold a lot even by it's standards. Wow. Totally agree about Mago, I see it rising to Reborn/DGM/Gintama level after the anime comes out. Assuming the anime is any good. It may not have been a big gap but ever since their volumes started coming out the same month Toriko has always sold a little better. While I like Toriko it's fun seeing them switch places, Mago's one developed into one of my favorite shonen. Last time out Toriko sold 10,000 more there first week. So it's about the same margin of difference.

Of all the series to debut since I started following the toc, Mago's rise has been the most fun to watch. It started with no hype, built a fanbase slowly, and two years later will be the first of the class of 2008 to get an anime. And it spent most of that time hidden in the bottom five, even as the volumes started selling.

ruggia
December 10, 2009, 12:28 AM
Hoopmen 1 came out the same week the series got canceled :'( And so it didn't even make the Oricon Top 100.
AKABOSHI 1 made 24,640 in two weeks.
Other than those two, Bokke 1 sold 18,967 and Bokke 2 9,440.

I have a question. how do you get sale figures for volumes that are not on the Top 100?
I'm guessing there's something in Oricon that shows that, but I tried searching around that site, but never really find any sale data except for the Top 100.... can you help me out?

Mr. Prince
December 10, 2009, 10:03 AM
I have a question. how do you get sale figures for volumes that are not on the Top 100?
I'm guessing there's something in Oricon that shows that, but I tried searching around that site, but never really find any sale data except for the Top 100.... can you help me out?
I guess that's a typo there? 'Cause I also just know places to access data for the Top 100. :tem
Whereas Oricon posts its Top 30 list every week on its homepage for free, there seems to be an - fee required, I guess - option to get rankings up to rank 100. For those numbers there are several threads on 2ch where kind people post'em...I can send you a link via PN, if you're interested. (Of course, it's all in Japanese)

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Other than that, thanks Heiji for the preview! So Bleach gets a poster...just what I was waiting for - not. The Naruto cover is stated to mark the end point of the 10th anniversary celebration.
What I find most interesting is the 4koma Xmas thing. I wonder how many series will be in there (since all series are listed on the left)
And Inumaru dashi will have a special Xmas collab with Ane-doki, Bakuman, Psyren and Kuroko. Sounds great!

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Oh and speaking of Bakuman...2010's "These manga are amazing!" list is out. [It's a magazine-book-thingy (a "mook" lol) that publishes such a list since 2005 and introduces readers to them.]
http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc541/th_56975_konoman2009m_122_541lo.jpg (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56975_konoman2009m_122_541lo.jpg) http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc617/th_56980_konoman2009wm_122_617lo.jpg (http://img196.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56980_konoman2009wm_122_617lo.jpg)
As for the boys' voting:
Bakuman ranked first, followed closely by One Piece, Seishun Shounen Magazine 1978~1983 came in third. Toriko ranked 9th!
01. Bakuman
02. One Piece
03. Seishun Shounen Magazine 1978~1983 - Kobayashi Makoto
04. Hoshi Mamoru Inu - Murakami Takashi
05. Moteki - Kubo Mitsurou
06. Koukou Kyuuji Zawa-san - Mashima Eriko
07. Full Metal Alchemist - Arakawa Hiromu
08. St. Young Men - Nakamura Hikaru
09. Toriko
10. Yowamushi Pedal - Watanabe Wataru

kewl0210
December 10, 2009, 10:42 AM
Heiji, I dunno where you got those translations, but it's not exactly what it says.
Bleach is getting a special poster.
Inumaru Dashi's thing is a special collaboration with Anedoki, PSYREN, Kuroko and Bakuman.

[Cross]
December 10, 2009, 11:15 AM
What I find most interesting is the 4koma Xmas thing. I wonder how many series will be in there (since all series are listed on the left)
And Inumaru dashi will have a special Xmas collab with Ane-doki, Bakuman, Psyren and Kuroko. Sounds great!


Didn't they do something similar last year as well? They had all of the series that were serialized at the time. Not too sure though.

ruggia
December 10, 2009, 01:51 PM
I guess that's a typo there? 'Cause I also just know places to access data for the Top 100. :tem
Whereas Oricon posts its Top 30 list every week on its homepage for free, there seems to be an - fee required, I guess - option to get rankings up to rank 100. For those numbers there are several threads on 2ch where kind people post'em...I can send you a link via PN, if you're interested. (Of course, it's all in Japanese)

yeah, thats a typo :facepalm
oh, please, can you send them? it would be great. :amuse
(hoping my country won't block 2chan...since it did for 4chan...)

Kaiten
December 10, 2009, 01:57 PM
Apparantly Bakuman will run on the NHK's educational channel (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-10/bakuman-manga-tv-anime-confirmed-for-fall-2010) ^^

Negative Syndicate
December 10, 2009, 03:03 PM
I found Jump's weekly comic sales ranking from bottom half of 1996 to first half of 2009 (there are only 1st to 10th place, plus the ranking is based on Tohan).

http://www.geocities.jp/wj_log/rank/rank1.html#09_1

Koen
December 10, 2009, 04:08 PM
Anyone who read the latest one shot in the week's issue

-> I like it a lot. The bunny has it all :D

Anyway I hope it'll get a serialisation next time

ruggia
December 10, 2009, 04:33 PM
Anyone who read the latest one shot in the week's issue

-> I like it a lot. The bunny has it all :D

Anyway I hope it'll get a serialisation next time

yeah same here. it seemed lame at first, but turned out to be pretty nice.
especially the bunny face :p

Drmke
December 10, 2009, 04:39 PM
I thought the picture was epic but UGH!! I hope someone translates it.

Mr. Prince
December 10, 2009, 05:07 PM
;1708822']Didn't they do something similar last year as well? They had all of the series that were serialized at the time. Not too sure though.
It's been one long year since...so, no. Can't remember... :tem
I just thought I read there it'd be ALL COLOR and if that was the case - no idea how many pages those 21 series would need.

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I LOVED the one shot. I thought it was really well done! No idea if it worked as a series but the OS was brilliant...
Shame I don't got time this weekend. Maybe I'll translate it next week - that is, if it hasn't been done yet then.

Negative Syndicate
December 10, 2009, 07:01 PM
Does anyone know how long it usually takes for an one shot to become serialized?

SSJWill4
December 10, 2009, 07:45 PM
Does anyone know how long it usually takes for an one shot to become serialized?

Just a couple that I know of since I have the one shot issues.

Muddy One Shot: Issue 36/37 of 2007
Series Start: Issue 3 of 2008
Beelzebub One Shot: Issue 37/38 of 2008
Series Start: Issue 13 of 2009

Negative Syndicate
December 10, 2009, 07:55 PM
Just a couple that I know of since I have the one shot issues.

Muddy One Shot: Issue 36/37 of 2007
Series Start: Issue 3 of 2008
Beelzebub One Shot: Issue 37/38 of 2008
Series Start: Issue 13 of 2009

I think the one shots from Golden Future Cups get serialized rather quickly. But, normal one shots usually take more longer time.

Sket Dance One Shot: 2006 Akamaru Winter and Issue 39 of 2006
Series Start: Issue 33 of 2007
Toriko One Shot: Issue 52 of 2007
Series Start: Issue 25 of 2008
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami One Shot: 2009 Akamaru Spring
Series Start: Issue 41 of 2009
Rilienthal One Shot:Issue 51 of 2008
Series Start: Issue 42 of 2009
Neko Wappa! One Shot: Issue 27 of 2009
Series Start: Issue 50 of 2009

I think it going to take at least 6 months for one shot to become serialized.

SSJWill4
December 10, 2009, 08:25 PM
I think the one shots from Golden Future Cups get serialized rather quickly. But, normal one shots usually take more longer time.

Sket Dance One Shot: 2006 Akamaru Winter and Issue 39 of 2006
Series Start: Issue 33 of 2007
Toriko One Shot: Issue 52 of 2007
Series Start: Issue 25 of 2008
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami One Shot: 2009 Akamaru Spring
Series Start: Issue 41 of 2009
Rilienthal One Shot:Issue 51 of 2008
Series Start: Issue 42 of 2009
Neko Wappa! One Shot: Issue 27 of 2009
Series Start: Issue 50 of 2009

I think it going to take at least 6 months for one shot to become serialized.

If you already knew the answer, then why did you ask the question?

Negative Syndicate
December 10, 2009, 08:33 PM
If you already knew the answer, then why did you ask the question?

I found the answer after I wrote down the question. But, I was completely forgot about deleting the question.:facepalm

[Cross]
December 10, 2009, 08:48 PM
It's been one long year since...so, no. Can't remember... :tem
I just thought I read there it'd be ALL COLOR and if that was the case - no idea how many pages those 21 series would need.


Hmm, yeah you're right, I was thinking of this thing: http://mangahelpers.com/m/matsurishounenjump2009

Ronin88
December 11, 2009, 06:32 AM
First mago and now bakuman is also getting a anime. Hmm 2010 is looking good.

kewl0210
December 11, 2009, 10:20 AM
Do we know when Mago's anime's planned to start... Bakuman isn't until the fall and probably not till after the manga's finished. Mago seems more long term.

But yeah, nice to see new animes. Bakuman should have more details next issue, it said.

Now if only get got a new HXH anime...
It'll probably depend on whenever this arc finally ends after all these years...

salam-daim
December 12, 2009, 06:22 AM
This is the three last covers combined (one piece)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3869/movie10jumpc.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3869/movie10jumpc.jpg)

Xadyu
December 12, 2009, 06:56 AM
Do we know when Mago's anime's planned to start... Bakuman isn't until the fall and probably not till after the manga's finished. Mago seems more long term.

But yeah, nice to see new animes. Bakuman should have more details next issue, it said.

Now if only get got a new HXH anime...
It'll probably depend on whenever this arc finally ends after all these years...

Mago starts in spring if I'm correct.

I don't think it's going to be a long-running anime, my guts tell me it's going to be somewhat around 26 episodes.

Koshi_Inaba
December 12, 2009, 07:14 AM
Mago starts in spring if I'm correct.

I don't think it's going to be a long-running anime, my guts tell me it's going to be somewhat around 26 episodes.

There's no confirmation yet. And I'm sorry, but I can't help but to laugh whenever people said a Jump battle manga is going to be 26 episodes. IIRC Naruto, Bleach, Reborn and D.Gray-man's earliest rumor was that it's only going to be 26 episodes. This is the reason why I always refrain from assuming.

[Cross]
December 12, 2009, 09:37 AM
There's no confirmation yet. And I'm sorry, but I can't help but to laugh whenever people said a Jump battle manga is going to be 26 episodes. IIRC Naruto, Bleach, Reborn and D.Gray-man's earliest rumor was that it's only going to be 26 episodes. This is the reason why I always refrain from assuming.

Right, and from what I recall, some of the battle manga that did air and end in 26-somewhat episodes weren't very long series to begin with, like Buso Renkin (well that the only one that came to mind). Other than that, the manga/anime that fell short on the episode count were usually non-battle.

Koshi_Inaba
December 12, 2009, 09:41 AM
;1711373']Right, and from what I recall, some of the battle manga that did air and end in 26-somewhat episodes weren't very long series to begin with, like Buso Renkin. Other than that, the manga/anime that fell short on the episode count were usually non-battle.

should've make it clearer, I mean successful battle manga. Renkin was a failure and was cancelled, not surprised that it only got 26 episodes. Nube,bobobobobobo, and most long running successful got more than 26 episodes.

Kaiten
December 12, 2009, 01:23 PM
^Agree. Mago and Toriko will get 52 episodes then most likely renewed for a second year, assuming they are semi successful. 26 episode manga adaptions are usually reserved for series that air late at night and more obscure series. The former applies to both Neuro and ToRa. Hatsukoi was fully adapted after 12 episodes, as said Renkin had already been canceled before the anime even began.

DeidaraGrimmjow
December 12, 2009, 01:23 PM
In keeping with the current topic, it was announced that the Bakuman anime will only be 25 episodes long. Disappointing, but that's how it goes I guess.

Also, I'm assuming Black Cat was not popular then because the anime aired after the manga had completed and still got a poor adaptation.

Drmke
December 12, 2009, 01:34 PM
Just 25 episodes is a shame, but I guess that means it will be pretty strait forward with no fillers. Though parts will probably have to be taken out to fit that amount of episodes.

Kaiten
December 12, 2009, 01:37 PM
Bakuman is going to be a bit of an exception. It is running on the NHK's educational channel (seriously) who I presume do not air a lot of anime for teens/young adult. A 50+ episode adaption seems to be a bit much for that station. There is always the possibility of a second season with continued success. I personally prefer 12 - 26 episode seasons that just get renewed for extra seasons (like Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei). That cuts down on all the fillers.

[Cross]
December 12, 2009, 02:21 PM
Also, I'm assuming Black Cat was not popular then because the anime aired after the manga had completed and still got a poor adaptation.


Not exactly, that's the fault of their silly animation studio Gonzo. They are generally awful.

Mr. Prince
December 13, 2009, 11:33 AM
From ◆EizHb38XPU @ 2ch:

・3・4ドベ5姉、保健、黒子、めだか、犬
・5・6巻頭鰤 3号連続カラー
   C読切、H×H
・いぬ×とらのコラボ
・スケドラマCD其の2
#03-04/2010 Bottom 5:
Kashikoi Ken Lilienthal
Medaka Box
Kuroko no Basket
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Ane-doki
Jaguar

Preview for #05-06/2010:
Cover: Bleach (3 consecutive weeks of CP)
CPs: One Shot + Hunter x Hunter

There'll be a Inumaru dashi x ToLove-ru collab
And a second(?) Dorama CD for Sket Dance [Not too sure about that sentence...sorry]

Negative Syndicate
December 13, 2009, 11:40 AM
It looks like Ane Dokii will be out on this round of cancellation. Also, I think Hokenshitsu has more possiblity than Rilienthal to be go out, plus there is more hope for Medaka to survive this round, too.

Sket Dance is getting another drama cd, but still no news for animation.

Now, Bleach is getting consecutive colours. I'm going to wonder which series going to get consecutive colours after Bleach.

ruggia
December 13, 2009, 12:01 PM
Bleach month huh, I guess Naruto will be next...

Shinigami seems to be in danger, Ane is almost confirmed, unless the 50K sale was good enough.

glad to see Bakuman, Psyren and many others all out of bottom 5.

I can't really imagine a Inumaru X TLR collab.... (by the way is that Inu for Inumaru or Rilienthal?)

Negative Syndicate
December 13, 2009, 12:03 PM
Bleach month huh, I guess Naruto will be next...

I'm not sure we need consecutive colours for Naruto because 2009 has been promoting Naruto's 10th year anniversary.

Rejuvenation
December 13, 2009, 12:40 PM
I don't care for the consecutive Bleach colors at all. What other series is left that can get it after wards? That only leaves Naruto and possibly Toriko. Maybe Mago if they are finally willing to take it to that level.

Another Sket drama CD. It would be nice if it could get an anime in the fall but I guess we will see how that plays out.

Rilienthal just barely missed escaping the bottom 5 this time. Medaka isn't in the worst of positions but it definitely could be better.

Hokenshitsu is likely to be the next victim at this rate. Ane doki continues to be last but we will see how it fairs when the time comes. If it continues to sell well that may spare it.

The two new series should also be ranked by the time that HunterxHunter issue rolls around. Should be interesting to see if they tank or manage to hang. I'm also curious about how long this marathon of one shots is planned to go on for.

Drmke
December 13, 2009, 12:56 PM
Ane Doki and Shinigami continue to be the bottom two. My guess is that they're going come next cancellations. Kuroko takes a nose dive right back down to the bottom...which is meh for me because I have no idea what going on in the series right now.

Bleach colors....maybe this will be the end of the three color thing. I don't really see them doing it for Naruto since it just got done getting a ton of attention but they might. And don't really think they will do it for Toriko or Mago considering they are newer but I would love to be surprised.

fxu
December 13, 2009, 03:19 PM
You can expect a color page for Kuroko soon, perhaps a surprise CP next issue... no way they're gonna let their only sports manga go down.

Negative Syndicate
December 13, 2009, 03:26 PM
You can expect a color page for Kuroko soon, perhaps a surprise CP next issue... no way they're gonna let their only sports manga go down.

Well, we can expect Kuroko's colour is coming soon because of Kuroko's 1st year anniversary is near. Also, I think Gintama and Psyren might going to have their anniversary, too, on next month.

kewl0210
December 13, 2009, 04:31 PM
Hell, they should give HXH a month of color pages, but I think we all know that's not gonna happen.

Bottom 5 is pretty typical.
If Ane Doki has good sales it might be allowed to live long enough to bring itself up. Remember, Ecchi series traditionally do badly in the rankings for various reasons like people are embarrassed about it... they mentioned that about TLR in Bakuman a while ago.

And yeah, it does say "Sket Dance Second Drama CD".

Pantsutastic
December 13, 2009, 05:14 PM
I don't care for the consecutive Bleach colors at all. What other series is left that can get it after wards? That only leaves Naruto and possibly Toriko. Maybe Mago if they are finally willing to take it to that level.

It would of been good if Bakuman would of gotten consecutive colors for it announcing that its going to get animated.

Estranho
December 13, 2009, 05:20 PM
Hell, they should give HXH a month of color pages, but I think we all know that's not gonna happen.
LOL, Togashi barely works on 19 normal pages, imagine 4 Color Pages!!!

Drmke
December 13, 2009, 07:37 PM
If Ane Doki has good sales it might be allowed to live long enough to bring itself up. Remember, Ecchi series traditionally do badly in the rankings for various reasons like people are embarrassed about it... they mentioned that about TLR in Bakuman a while ago.

To Love-ru did really well in the rankings until 2009. It was almost never in the bottom 5. Maybe some people are embarrassed but there must be a lot that aren't.

Phantasia
December 13, 2009, 08:22 PM
To Love-ru did really well in the rankings until 2009. It was almost never in the bottom 5. Maybe some people are embarrassed but there must be a lot that aren't.

But still... To Love Ru did got canceled :(. I hope Ane-doki won't though. It's a great manga :(

Koen
December 14, 2009, 03:03 AM
People should really watch out with taking the selling rates in account. Selling rates of volumes don't mean anything to jump when the manga's position is very low in the magazine. When you're constantly in the bottom then they kill you, whatever your result may be.

Eg: Double arts. Its volumes were always in the top 10 but after some great top positions, it fell down in jump's bottom. It got cancelled. There's prolly more examples.

Koen back! Welcome back, stop by more often!! :)

Rejuvenation
December 14, 2009, 03:07 AM
Which I also find interesting considering they make very little if nothing at all from magazine sales and the volumes are where they get money from before anime anyway.

But of course since they have canceled a series that sold over 20 million before we clearly aren't dealing with the most logical bunch.

Kaiten
December 14, 2009, 03:11 AM
People should really watch out with taking the selling rates in account. Selling rates of volumes don't mean anything to jump when the manga's position is very low in the magazine. When you're constantly in the bottom then they kill you, whatever your result may be.

Eg: Double arts. Its volumes were always in the top 10 but after some great top positions, it fell down in jump's bottom. It got cancelled. There's prolly more examples.

Volumes sales only matter if a series lasts long enough to get a second volume. DA's sales weren't bad (not in the mood to go back through Oricon for exact numbers) for a first volume, in the 30,000 copy range. That's about average for a new series by a new mangaka. Not enough to save a bottom 5 series. Volume 1 sales only matter for series like Beelzebub or Toriko that are a lot higher then normal (about 60k for both). Mago was lower then those two but did not fall to the bottom five until multiple volumes were out. Certain low ranking series like Medaka can survive off volume sales; it's second volume moved about 55k, big numbers for a second volume (exceptions aside). It's low ranking can be attributed to being slightly ecchi, the younger teens probably aren't voting for it.

Koen
December 14, 2009, 03:27 AM
Thank you Kaiten.Sama ;)

(Off Topic: Congratz on being a blue/global :))
Thanks!!


Volumes sales only matter if a series lasts long enough to get a second volume. DA's sales weren't bad (not in the mood to go back through Oricon for exact numbers) for a first volume, in the 30,000 copy range. That's about average for a new series by a new mangaka. Not enough to save a bottom 5 series. Volume 1 sales only matter for series like Beelzebub or Toriko that are a lot higher then normal (about 60k for both). Mago was lower then those two but did not fall to the bottom five until multiple volumes were out. Certain low ranking series like Medaka can survive off volume sales; it's second volume moved about 55k, big numbers for a second volume (exceptions aside). It's low ranking can be attributed to being slightly ecchi, the younger teens probably aren't voting for it.

Yes, I agree. I think there's always a distinction to be made:
- magazine top series and volume sale top series: these are the safest hits. They get an anime, they get movies, they get everything :) (naruto, one piece, bleach, etc)
- when a serie starts there's always different ways:
1. it's an instant failure, its magazine position isn't good and sometime they even don't await the volume sales (Y to M, kagijin, etc)
2. the doubtful starter, its magazine position doesn't stand out but it takes decent positions or it is saved by different cushions in the bottom. These series are lucky and get the time to evolve. They can become more popular in a later future (mago)

and so on and on

Kaiten
December 14, 2009, 03:45 AM
the TOC is the only proven way to get to that first volume. Most series that are canceled are canceled long before the first volume comes out, like you mentioned. Akaboshi is a good example of a series that proves early sales don't matter; it only lasted so long since ToRa ended, it's volume 1 sales were average for a new series but Jump wasn't interested in giving it time to grow since it was in the bottom 5 every week.

I've found over the last few years that the majority of series that stay out of the bottom long enough to still be serialized when the first tank is released seem to last at least a year, no matter what. Psyren and Mago come to mind, both did well before volume 1, collapsed in the ranks after that only to rebound. Now both are entering their second years.

pandaaqueen
December 14, 2009, 07:52 AM
People should really watch out with taking the selling rates in account. Selling rates of volumes don't mean anything to jump when the manga's position is very low in the magazine. When you're constantly in the bottom then they kill you, whatever your result may be.

They didn't cancel D.Gray-man, though. :P

Koen
December 14, 2009, 08:05 AM
They didn't cancel D.Gray-man, though. :P

Yeah but D.G-m wasn't the bottom runner either. D.G-m was kinda like psyren (volume sells aside): now and then in the bottom, but mostly out of it and the middle of the table. It wasn't consistently in the bottom

They transferred it to SQ because the weekly schedule was prolly too hard on the mangaka (taken her bad health in account)

Mr. Prince
December 14, 2009, 09:24 AM
DA's sales weren't bad (not in the mood to go back through Oricon for exact numbers) for a first volume, in the 30,000 copy range.
Since I'm in a happy mood for getting home early due to sick teachers...I'll do it for you :tem
Double Arts 1 - 40,644 (first week, second week didn't make the top 100 which means less than 8,500 copies sold [rank 100 that week])
Double Arts 2 - 30,842 (3 days) / 48,720 (second week)
Double Arts 3 - 38,106 (4 days) / 51,633 (second week)
So DA really didn't do too shabby but not too great on the other hand...let's just call it decent. *lol*

PS: Trying to start Oumagadoki Doubutsuen-OS translation today!

Digital_Eon
December 14, 2009, 03:24 PM
Yeah but D.G-m wasn't the bottom runner either. D.G-m was kinda like psyren (volume sells aside): now and then in the bottom, but mostly out of it and the middle of the table. It wasn't consistently in the bottom

There was a long period of time when it was - even second-to-last, for a number of weeks. It went years without a cover, too (and more than a year without even a colour page - from chapters 121 to 156). This may have been due in part to the mangaka's illness, but it spent a long time at the bottom around 2007. Though it had become an established series by then...

Kaiten
December 14, 2009, 05:02 PM
Most of the time it was at the bottom was after taking long breaks. Prior to the first long one it generally polled in the middle. The last hiatus only resulted in eight chapters, those could have been editor placement. Unless they counted votes from October and November of 2008 to place chapters in March and April of '09, I don't think those were ever voted on by fans.

Negative Syndicate
December 15, 2009, 08:31 PM
I found out that Jump magazine sales reached to 3,000,000 sales. The last time Jump reached to 3,000,000 range was on 2004.

I'm not sure whether they increased the sales by successful series from 2008 and 2009, or because of the promotion by Sakiyomi Jump Bang.

Majin_Reid
December 16, 2009, 12:50 AM
Is there a Jump Festa thread or can we talk about it here??

Just wondering who is going to Jump Festa this weekend~

here is fine. If you want to start a thread that's fine too :)

Koen
December 16, 2009, 06:02 AM
#03-04 (21/12) :
Naruto (Cover, Lead Color)
Beelzebub
One Piece
Toriko
Mago
Sket Dance
Kochi
Bleach (News & Poster)
Bakuman (Color)
Psyren
Gintama
Neko
Idol
Takahashi Ichirô / Uchû no Sparrow (Color, One Shot)
Reborn

Inumaru Dashi Special Chapter
Kashikoi Ken Lilienthal
Medaka Box
Kuroko no Basket
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Ane-doki
Jaguar

credits: www.raw-paradise.com

Rejuvenation
December 16, 2009, 07:40 AM
Beelzebub on top of even One Piece? Looks like the series really did well for itself that week. I love seeing Toriko in the top 3 along with it. With Mago and Sket following behind this is a top 5 I can enjoy. Especially with no Bleach. It can stay on the outside of it looking in.

Psyren has a nice spot in the middle and Reborn is actually on the lower side this week.

Since this is a double issue, both of those new series should be ranked when 05-06 comes around. It should be interesting to see where they place.

Estranho
December 16, 2009, 07:45 AM
One Piece below Beelzebub??
Someone stops the world, please, I wanna leave

Akainu
December 16, 2009, 07:53 AM
sadly it's probably both, Beelze deserving the ranking as well as One Piece having a rather weak time :neutral

¬Bol
December 16, 2009, 08:47 AM
Beelze over OP lol

StrangerAtaru
December 16, 2009, 08:56 AM
Beezle beating OP...I guess with Naruto and Bleach technically out of it, something had to do it...but I'm just shocked a bit it was Beezle. Not bad for Psyren or Sket this week either.

Drmke
December 16, 2009, 10:35 AM
Um...wow. Beelzebub beating One Piece is great! One Piece could be last and there would be nothing to worry about for it so I don't really care where it ranks, but with Beelzebub beating it, that means it could be the next mega hit.

Plus, Mago and Toriko doing so well is great as well. Even though I don't read Sket, its nice to see it doing better than the last few weeks.

Reborn and Kuroko are low....:kukuku I feel nothing for them.

Kaiten
December 16, 2009, 01:26 PM
Beelze finally making number 1 is welcome! I'm as shocked as anyone it came at One Pieces expense. Looking forward to Neko's first ranking and crossing my fingers ^^

SSJWill4
December 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
Since this is a double issue, both of those new series should be ranked when 05-06 comes around. It should be interesting to see where they place.

I don't think they both will be. I'll just copy and paste what I put on the livejournal page since I'm lazy. :P

I don't think it's by weeks. Here's why. If rankings went by 8 weeks instead of 8 chapters then you are right in saying both would be ranked by next issue and every chapter would be ranked in the ToC based on 8 weeks earlier. The problem ensues when you get to the issue 8 weeks ahead of the break week. They obviously don't use the same rankings twice as we have never seen 2 identical ToCs in a row. The only other option is that everything that week is unranked and editor placed. I tend to think it is more likely that it's not 8 weeks because of this scenario but instead 8 chapters (or issues if you will) before a manga is ranked and what all manga chapters base their ranking on.

kewl0210
December 16, 2009, 02:49 PM
I dunno why the hell Beelzebub would get higher than OP. It's not nearly that good. But I suppose people voted in a lot for it, and maybe the current arc doesn't appeal so much to younger kids. Plus OP just got what, 2 or 3 covers in a row...
Toriko's high, that's good. It's nice to see Mago and Psyren up high, too.

But Naruto, Bleach, Bakuman, the One-Shot, and Inumaru, Neko Wappa, and Idol are all unranked. Kind of a lot.
I think issue 4-5 would be Neko's last unranked week, it's its 8th issue. So after that. And Idol goes after that. Though they're not doing outstanding by any means, it's still too hard to tell anything at this point as we discussed a while ago, the unranked ranks don't tell much.

And starting next issue HXH will be in the TOC. Usually it's fairly low, as it's on hiatus most of the time, but obviously it sells really well so it's irrelevant. It might be enough to boost some other series though.

The Bleach news was its fourth movie, by the way, apparantly.

Akiyama
December 16, 2009, 07:18 PM
Manga Rankings 12/6 - 12/12

1. One Piece volume 56 (398,550/1,762,418) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
2. Bleach volume 42 (162.299/638,210) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
3. D.Gray-man volume 19 (156,739/400,788) (Jump SQ)
4. Reborn! volume 27 (149,210/403,076) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
10. Toriko volume 7 (64,500/167,067) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
11. Nurarihyon no Mago volume 8 (63,699/173,336) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
13. Naruto 10th Anniversary Book (42,419/96,163) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
16. Ane-Doki volume 1 (38,396/93,014) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
18. Medaka Box volume 2 (27,947/82,141) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
26. One Piece volume 55 (23,213/1,865,327) (Weekly Shonen Jump)
28. Naruto volume 48 (20,926/1,087,620) (Weekly Shonen Jump)

Pantsutastic
December 16, 2009, 07:48 PM
Ane-Doki is almost to 100,000.:vbunny

Rejuvenation
December 16, 2009, 09:51 PM
Toriko sells a bit more this week but is still behind Mago in total sale numbers. If both chart next week, it will be fun to see which is in the lead.

Ane-doki has actually eclipsed Beelzebub's volume 1 sales for its first 2 weeks. With far less color being pumped into it. Medaka's 2nd volume has exceeded my expectations as well. If both break 100K next week, Jump would be foolish to cancel either one. Especially since both Kawashita's and Akira Akatsuki's last series' were no where near this high in sales. This is also better than Psyren, Sket, and even Mago's in its first 2 volume sales from what I can see. This has been a fun turn of events.


I don't think they both will be. I'll just copy and paste what I put on the livejournal page since I'm lazy. :P

I don't think it's by weeks. Here's why. If rankings went by 8 weeks instead of 8 chapters then you are right in saying both would be ranked by next issue and every chapter would be ranked in the ToC based on 8 weeks earlier. The problem ensues when you get to the issue 8 weeks ahead of the break week. They obviously don't use the same rankings twice as we have never seen 2 identical ToCs in a row. The only other option is that everything that week is unranked and editor placed. I tend to think it is more likely that it's not 8 weeks because of this scenario but instead 8 chapters (or issues if you will) before a manga is ranked and what all manga chapters base their ranking on.

Perhaps you are right.

KuwabaraTheMan
December 16, 2009, 11:01 PM
Ane Doki is a definite hit at this point. Those sales for a first volume are excellent. Medaka Box is doing quite well for itself, too. I highly doubt Jump decides to cancel either one with such strong sales.

Negative Syndicate
December 16, 2009, 11:13 PM
After seeing the sales for Ane Dokii and Medaka, I don't think Jump going to cut these two because these two are selling pretty well, even Ane Dokii is doing better than Hatsukoi.

Then, is there possibility that the editors going to cut Hokenshitsu and Rilienthal instead Medaka and Ane Dokii?

SSJWill4
December 17, 2009, 12:26 AM
After seeing the sales for Ane Dokii and Medaka, I don't think Jump going to cut these two because these two are selling pretty well, even Ane Dokii is doing better than Hatsukoi.

Then, is there possibility that the editors going to cut Hokenshitsu and Rilienthal instead Medaka and Ane Dokii?

I don't see why not. Also, you're forgetting the two new ones as well. Both Neko Wappa and Kanata Seven Change are still unranked, so one of them or both could theoretically be canceled.

Xadyu
December 17, 2009, 04:26 AM
They should've put some Akatsuki baby's on there too, lol. I don't like the cover one bit tho', not one single bit.. It's cool for the kids tho', they can cosplay a bad Naruto and get published nationwide on their (probably) favorite magazine.

And time's running short on Hunter x Hunter, I guess I can't catch up in time anyway.
But who can blame me right... stupid manga. :P

Negative Syndicate
December 17, 2009, 07:22 AM
Male character from Yabuki's one shot looks like Saiko.

Xadyu
December 17, 2009, 08:12 AM
What's with Lala from TLR with the black silhouet in this preview?

http://imagefruity.com/images/4051e8gefme7egvqwdh4_thumb.jpg (http://imagefruity.com/viewer.php?file=4051e8gefme7egvqwdh4.jpg)

[Cross]
December 17, 2009, 09:46 AM
It's been mentioned a couple of times here, but basically there is going to be a collaboration of inumaru and to love-ru.

Xadyu
December 17, 2009, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I know that, I just don't get it why they don't have a silhouet in there?

[Cross]
December 17, 2009, 09:57 AM
Yeah, I know that, I just don't get it why they don't have a silhouet in there?

Your guess is as good as mine...they can do whatever they want I suppose.

Negative Syndicate
December 17, 2009, 10:05 AM
So far, all of consecutive colour pages are associated with film adaptation; Gintama was for its first movie adaptation, One Piece was for its 10th movie, and Bleach is for its 4th movie.

Only Reborn didn't have any association between movie adaptation and consecutive colours.

Xadyu
December 17, 2009, 11:03 AM
So far, all of consecutive colour pages are associated with film adaptation; Gintama was for its first movie adaptation, One Piece was for its 10th movie, and Bleach is for its 4th movie.

Only Reborn didn't have any association between movie adaptation and consecutive colours.

Well, Reborn had anime shorts added into the show and it's 5th anniversary, and some other things.

kewl0210
December 17, 2009, 02:25 PM
This week's Inumaru Dashi was really cool, they had Four authors all do a tie-in with thier own manga with Inumaru Dashi, doing their own version of the Inumaru Dashi characters and such.
With Psyren, Kuroko, Bakuman, and Ane Doki. It's a pretty funny collab of a lot of series. Apparantly the To-Love-Ru thing is next week.

Course, even if I translated it, nobody would scanlate it... and Ju-Ni Vicissitude doesn't scan it, and if I put up the chapter raws Heiji-sama or whoever on Raw-Paradise do, they'll just get deleted in a few days. So not much hope there... Seems like a broken sort of situation... seeing as the entire point of them being deleted is supposed to be so the HQ files are the only ones that stay in circulation. Which there aren't any of...

WinningDays
December 17, 2009, 03:27 PM
Yeah, I'd be nice if there were scans of Inumaru, it's cute and funny...
It seems like the Inumaru thing was a Christmas special...
Well, that's what the TOC author comment box says anyway...

The Gintama and Bleach TOC comments were so funny...

Gintama - My deadline ended up being on the same day as Christmas Eve. Instead of Santa, Satan will be coming. Merry Christmas. <Hideaki>

Bleach - In between work, I keep playing TomoKore*. The other day Hisagi got turned down by Hiyori. <Taito>
* TomoKore is a DS game, it means Friend Collection...
I just thought it was funny how he named his game characters after the bleach ones... or maybe the characters come with the game...
but anyways, poor hisagi...:amuse

The other author comments were pretty normal except for the one by the author of Uchuu no Sparrow...
Apparently the first cd he bought was by Michael Jackson, and he has listened to it every day since he got it for the past 13 years. He asked for letters about what the readers think, since he is depressed...

I just thought it was strange because of the timing, but maybe it's not...? I don't usually read the author comments except for Oda's... so maybe they're always like this...:blink

ruggia
December 17, 2009, 03:42 PM
if I put up the chapter raws Heiji-sama or whoever on Raw-Paradise do, they'll just get deleted in a few days. So not much hope there... Seems like a broken sort of situation... seeing as the entire point of them being deleted is supposed to be so the HQ files are the only ones that stay in circulation. Which there aren't any of...
really? Raw-Paradise scans are not for scanlation? I see many groups who use that....

kewl0210
December 17, 2009, 09:50 PM
They use them, but they're only kept online for like a week or so. And seeing as the last chapter I did was 4 and the current chapter is 65, and they're not being replaced with any other version because the HQ people don't scan them so they would just disappear before anyone could scanlate them, which no one is. Maybe I can ask for special permission from them to leave them online so people can use them once I catch up.

Kaiten
December 18, 2009, 12:32 AM
News I forgot to repost here:


Bakuman, volume 1 (http://books.simonandschuster.com/Bakuman-Vol-1/Tsugumi-Ohba/Bakuman/9781421535135): August, 2010
Toriko, volume 1 (http://books.simonandschuster.com/Toriko-Vol-1/Mitsutoshi-Shimabukuro/Toriko/9781421535098): June, 2010

Mushashi
December 18, 2009, 03:12 AM
Thanks Kaiten. although unfortuenetly i know viz is going to drag out the releases of bakuman very slowly just to make sure theyve gotten most of the millions of 'deathnote' fans

Foundway
December 18, 2009, 07:13 AM
Short Question: In which of the january issues will Hunter X Hunter came back. Sry I forgot the date :(

- Great that I live in germany , we have bakuman already published^^.

ruggia
December 18, 2009, 07:33 AM
Short Question: In which of the january issues will Hunter X Hunter came back. Sry I forgot the date :(

- Great that I live in germany , we have bakuman already published^^.


the first one. (next issue)

Akiyama
December 18, 2009, 09:14 AM
Information on the Winter Issue of Akamaru Jump (http://www.shonenjump.com/e/akamaru/index.html) 2010 has been posted and it goes on sale Jan. 9th

pandaaqueen
December 18, 2009, 10:30 AM
Do we have to wait until next Sunday for the bottom 5 to be posted? :I

Kaiten
December 18, 2009, 11:51 AM
Most likely not. Jump seems to go to press at the same time, even if the issue doesn't come out that week. Apparently it sits in a warehouse for an extra week. The bottom 5 and TOC came out a week before the August double issue, if I remember correctly.

Negative Syndicate
December 20, 2009, 12:31 PM
476 : ◆EizHb38XPU :2009/12/21(月) 02:27:27 ID:R1PcNZjLO
小ネタ
・5・6ドベ5姉、めだか、保健、ねこ、犬
・7巻頭黒子 C鰤、リボ、スケ

んじゃ、また来年

Issue 5/6 bottom 5:
Rilienthal
Neko Wappa
Hokenshitsu
Medaka
Ane Dokii

Issue 7
Lead CP: Kuroko
CP: Bleach, Reborn, Sket Dance

Drmke
December 20, 2009, 12:44 PM
WHY NEKO WHY?!! Well that sucks. Maybe it can move up if not o well. Medaka is back down with Ane Doki. Unfortunately, I'm thinking this is a bottom 5 we will be seeing quite often till cuts come around.

And possible Kuroko cover? Well it does deserve it since its made it a year and has sold pretty well.

[Cross]
December 20, 2009, 01:11 PM
hm...it seems rilienthal and neko wappa have both been positioned for the bottom. How amusing, I wonder if this is foreshadowing what will happen to Ashirogi's new gag manga in Bakuman lol. Maybe it's too soon to judge for Neko, it might jump up next time around.

pandaaqueen
December 20, 2009, 01:13 PM
Could some nice person explain me difference between "Lead CPs" and "CPs"? :@

[Cross]
December 20, 2009, 01:17 PM
Could some nice person explain me difference between "Lead CPs" and "CPs"? :@

Lead CP is the series that starts off the magazine and they are given colour pages in addition to being listed first. Those tend to usually get the cover as well.

Negative Syndicate
December 20, 2009, 01:17 PM
I'm really confused for status that Rilienthal currently in. It is true that Rilienthal's ranking isn't very good, it mostly stayed in bottom 5. But there is a series that doing worse than Rilienthal; Medaka, Ane Dokii, and Hokenshitsu. There is high possibility that Hokenshitsu will be axed on next round, but I'm really not sure what's going to be happen Medaka and Ane Dokii. There are doing worse than Rilienthal, but there sells are pretty good.

Is Rilienthal in danger to be axed on this round of cancellation, or is it safe on this round?

Drmke
December 20, 2009, 01:22 PM
I'm really confused for status that Rilienthal currently in. It is true that Rilienthal's ranking isn't very good, it mostly stayed in bottom 5. But there is a series that doing worse than Rilienthal; Medaka, Ane Dokii, and Hokenshitsu. There is high possibility that Hokenshitsu will be axed on next round, but I'm really not sure what's going to be happen Medaka and Ane Dokii. There are doing worse than Rilienthal, but there sells are pretty good.

Is Rilienthal in danger to be axed on this round of cancellation, or is it safe on this round?

I'd say its still in danger. Just being in the bottom 5 is dangerous. Medaka and Ane Doki are selling decently but are still in a lot of danger as well. Jump won't hesitate to cancel them at the moment imo.

StrangerAtaru
December 20, 2009, 02:06 PM
There really isn't too much more to say for the moment: Lillinthal, Ane and Medaka are still in the bottom five, Neko has collapsed with an early ranking...and Psyren has surpassed 100 chapters (yeah, it's 101 now but still) and is still not in the bottom 5. (maybe it can be pared up with Bakuman and Toriko for an October, 2010 anime)

Oh yeah...there is one more thing: the earlier this issue comes out, the longer the wait for stuff after the holidays. (remembers seeing scans around Boxing Day last year for double issue #2)

Crude
December 20, 2009, 02:09 PM
So I take it Psyren will be getting a CP on the 8th or 9th issue?

I was just wondering, is Japan like a month ahead of us or anything? I mean this is WSJ 2010 edition, even if most of the world is in 2009 a.d.

Koen
December 20, 2009, 02:21 PM
So with Neko Wappa being currently rated, we can expect a new round of axes after this double issue (maybe issue 9 and onwards). I wonder which new material will be given and which mangaka will have their chance.

So Neko Wappa has a first very low ranking. So together with ane dokii, I see both of them being the bottom dweller (like akaboshi and kagijin were). So bye, bye you two (or will you surprise us ;))

Drmke
December 20, 2009, 02:28 PM
I was just wondering, is Japan like a month ahead of us or anything? I mean this is WSJ 2010 edition, even if most of the world is in 2009 a.d.

No Jump just starts its fiscal year a month early is all.

Kaiten
December 20, 2009, 02:33 PM
Neko may rebound starting with chapter 2. Chapter 1 was basically a rewrite of the one shot, different supporting cast, same basic story. I want to see how it does after chapter 3 is ranked before worrying. But I am a bit worried.

Having to guess Rilienthal and Hokenshitsu will be the next to go. Both have had poor ratings for a long time now, neither have volume sales or an older target audience to balance them out. Medaka volume 2 doubled volume 1's sales, seems the safest of the bunch. A third series could join, a lot depends on when the next new series come. If it isn't until March HxH will probably be the third series.

Rejuvenation
December 20, 2009, 02:36 PM
I can't really complain about Neko Wappa falling to the bottom. If it is there next week too it won't be a good sign for it. It also can bounce back as well. We are likely to see a pattern by the 3rd chapter.

I think Hokenshitsu doesn't have much of a chance at this point imo. It is likely to be one of the series that make an exit when the next cut hits. Rilienthal being in the spot it has been makes it a harder one to call but I don't really see Jump getting a whole lot out of that series personally. It may start tanking more after the next cuts or it could rise.

Medaka and Ane Doki in the worst spots this week.

Well the interesting part is what series caters to what crowds. Do sports bring in more readers and money than romance and ecchi? WSJ was clearly gung-ho about keeping at least one sports series around to the point they gave Kuroko color pages 4 or 5 times immediately after it hit the bottom 5. Considering Ane Doki is pretty much the one series in the magazine that appeals to the romance crowd the same logic should still apply. Or the editors just really had a bias for Kuroko even beyond being the sole sports series before its 3rd volume sold so high. Plus Ane doki has sold more than Kuroko despite having a fraction of the help.

Medaka's 2nd volume has sold more than Kuroko's 2nd volume as well despite having absolutely no editor help at all. If there absolutely needs to be a cut I'd be taking out Rilienthal and Hokenshitsu imo. Possibly Neko Wappa if it tanks even more. To cut the series that are actually delivering sales wise with not nearly as much backing would be foolish. Granted the WSJ department has made some foolish moves itself over the years so this is probably within their range.

Not that I find the series all that compelling compared to other series in other mags but it just looks like a retarded move from a business perspective to remove it.

kewl0210
December 20, 2009, 02:55 PM
K, so everything in the bottom 5 are the newer more recent series.

Sometimes HXH gets low in the TOC because not enough people read it because of its schedule which might buffer some things... I dunno. Not this issue because it has a color page.

Also I really doubt Kuroko will get the cover. It'll probably get the lead color but Bleach or HXH or something will get the cover.

ruggia
December 20, 2009, 03:07 PM
yey! we got a leak! (right? since its not suppose to be out this week :p)
seems like all the new series were a failure.
well, with Ane and MB having good sales, I'm not sure which series are in danger. this is interesting.