Bleach EP 248 Discussion

[Cobra826]

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[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

WOW Ukitake using Raikohou instead of Shakkahou XD

[DARK]

Bleach Episode 248
This episode contains spoilers. If you have not seen the episode, read at your own risk.
The episode begins with a recap of what happened last time. Muramasa killing off two zanpakuto spirits with Ryujin Jakka. Afterwards, thanking Ichigo for what he has done to help before escaping. The Captains are amazed by the reiatsu produced by the flame. Ichigo tries to escape from the wildfires, but the flames seem to have a mind of their own and attack him. Ichigo and the other Captains begin to discuss what they could do to free themselves and stop Muramsa. Yamamoto tells them that Muramasa is heading to the Jureichi; Karakura Town. All of the others, especially Ichigo, are surprised by this. (Big surprise to the fans though...)
Muramasa is seen exiting into Karakura Town along with Byakuya and Senbonzakura. Muramasa comments on the town being the reiatsu-enriched land. He warns Byakuya to be careful. Byakuya and Senbonzakura split off on their own. Muramasa questions Byakuya's intentions before coughing up blood (a bit of blood is seen in his eyes). Ichigo plans to use the dirt from the hole created by Muramasa to stop the flames.
While inside the cave, Yoruichi is attacked by Tobiume. Kenpachi senses that Ichigo is already taking up a fight, but he is confident that Ichigo will get through. Kenpachi pushes back Tenken. Kenpachi tells Tenken that he had already defeated his ally, Gonryomaru (seen in sword form). We had not seen Gonryomaru defeated last episode, so Kenpachi did it off-screen.
Kenpachi leaks out some reiatsu. Tekken releases a massive amount of reiatsu, predictably using Bankai (only speaking a brief second for the "Bankai"). In Bankai form, Kokujo Tengen Myou begins to dwarf Kenpachi before launching an attack. Kenpachi leaks out his reiatsu (albeit still having his eyepatch on). Yoruichi uses Shunko to get into another cave room.
She confronts Tobiume and Haineko again. Meanwhile, Kyoraku is trying to cut through the flame. Ukitake is using Hado 63- Raikoho to bust through as well, but still no visible effort has been shown. Yamamoto explains Muramasa's origins; he was wielded by a powerful Shinigami in Seireitei. It basically controlled the other Shinigami's zanpakuto. Generic shinigami are having their sealed zanpakuto wobbled. Their spirits appear to attack them.
The Captains are surprised that such a powerful zanpakuto is in the presence of Karakura Town, the spirit-enriched land, planning to destroy it. Meanwhile, Muramasa descends into a foggy field, covered by hell butterflies. The fog lifts to reveal a giant tree on a piece of land surrounded by water. Orihime appears, questioning who he is.
Muramasa attacks with his zanpakuto, but Orihime uses Santen Kesshun to block the sword attack. Muramasa appears behind her and uses his powers to restrain her. He is then seen bleeding out of his eyes and coughing. Muramasa falls unconscious, only to be healed by Orihime's Soten Kisshun. After healing him, Orihime is surprised by his dark reiatsu. Uryu and Sado soon appear to attack him. Muramasa is seen smiling.
The Captains continue their efforts to bust through the flames. Ichigo blames himself for freeing Yamamoto and Ryujin Jakka, allowing Muramasa to escape into the real world. Ichigo uses his Hollow mask to cut through the flames and breaks through in the air. The flames surround him in a sphere, managing to burn away at Ichigo's mask.
In a saving fashion, Hitsugaya uses Hyorinmaru's Shikai to free Ichigo. Ichigo is relieved to see Hitsugaya and Hyorinmaru. Hitsugaya wonders who could have produced such a flame. Kyoraku tells him that it was Yamamoto's zanpakuto, Ryujin Jakka. Ichigo informs him that Muramasa is in Karakura Town. Both Hitsugaya and Hyorinmaru use their Bankais, except the latter is the ice dragon form seen in Hitsugaya's inner world.
Hyorinmaru tries to escape the flames, but they contact him and is hurt. He still manages to freeze the flames though. After freezing them, Hitsugaya uses Ryuusenka to break the ice that resulted. With only a small dent, Ichigo uses his Hollow mask to get through the flames before they melt the ice. Yamamoto comments on the boy's courage. Ichigo tells Muramasa to wait up and that he will defeat him in the real world.

Preview: Kenpachi fights Kokujo Tenken Myou, with Yachiru watching on the sidelines. Tobiume and Haineko are seen attacking someone. Orihime and Rukia are seen trying to tend to Sado. Uryu uses his quincy arrows on Muramasa, only to be blocked by Senbonzakura. The preview is narrated by Uryu and Sado, although I could care less what they have to say.

Omake: Renji is seen shopping for Rukia. Going back to Rukia's bedside, Renji tries to give her a Chappy. Rukia is amazed by the giant Chappy that had just appeared in Seireitei. O...K... Rukia thinks that it's the cutest thing she ever seen. Renji, having a very small Chappy behind his back, goes along with it and says that he bought it for her.

[wooticus]

ichigo escaping the flames in the end reminds me of the scene in which the millenium falcon escapes the death star II in the last star wars movie :O

[espadaboyzz]

Very interesting episode... so ryuujin jakka truly powerful zanpakuto after all, i wonder if yamaji will fight his own zanpakutou rite now.

[Exodi]

Whoa...I had no idea you could freeze fire. O_O

[DARK]

By the end of this episode, we did not even see Ryujin Jakka.
Furthermore, the "battle" between "Fire and Ice Dragons!" was simply Hyorinmaru freezing Ryujin Jakka's flames for the instant that Ichigo can escape. That's why I say that we can't trust these episode titles.

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

Hyourinmaru extinguishes the flames with water, and freezes said water...or at least that's how I interpreted it.

[DARK]

Hyourinmaru extinguishes the flames with water, and freezes said water...or at least that's how I interpreted it.

Still, it wasn't a real battle like people had hoped it would have been.
Seriously, I'm starting to believe that shifting the battle to Karakura Town has got to be the worst decision the anime writers could have thought of for this filler arc.
Muramasa, stop copying Aizen already!

[extrememangalover]

why is Muramasa losing his power too soon??? his master gotta be more evil or way stronger than he is considering how suck Muramasa is right now:darn

[Zatono]

Still, it wasn't a real battle like people had hoped it would have been.
Seriously, I'm starting to believe that shifting the battle to Karakura Town has got to be the worst decision the anime writers could have thought of for this filler arc.
Muramasa, stop copying Aizen already!

Well, a change of scenery is alright. I was getting tired of seeing Sereitei getting blown up and having it be dark all the time, but they could of moved it to the Rukongai or something, with more open space. It'd be better then more buildings <.<

[DARK]

Well, a change of scenery is alright. I was getting tired of seeing Sereitei getting blown up and having it be dark all the time, but they could of moved it to the Rukongai or something, with more open space. It'd be better then more buildings <.<

I agree, but is Karakura really a better substitute? Especially given that we are going to go back to the canon Karakura fights after a few more episodes.
Seriously Muramasa's reasons for going there just for the anime writers to create a second Aizen... Not the best idea.

[hajialibaig]

this arc is filled with more plot holes than swiss cheese...

[Galbert-Kun]

So the "fierce fight" title has a synonym I see...

WHY did Orihime heal Muramasa? Chad and Ishida should team up against Senbon. I could see a El Directo- Ginrei Kōjaku combo, even though it would amount to FAIL.

[DARK]

So the "fierce fight" title has a synonym I see...

WHY did Orihime heal Muramasa? Chad and Ishida should team up against Senbon. I could see a El Directo- Ginrei Kōjaku combo, even though it would amount to FAIL.

You honestly can't blame Orihime; she does not know who Muramasa is and what he has done the past 20 episodes.

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

Kuchiki Kouga...I see it now. That's why Byakuya knows where the seal is. And in the silhouette of Kouga, he's wearing that scarf Byakuya and Ginrei wore.

[ZeroAxis]

LOL He jumped into the trap!

[After_Image]

Tobiume and Haineko are getting really annoying. Yoruichi should just finish them off; both of them together are no match for her.

[Kravmaga]

Tobiume and Haineko are getting really annoying. Yoruichi should just finish them off; both of them together are no match for her.

Seriously. The sooner those two get the fail kicked out of them, the better. They are wasting way too much screentime with worthless chatter and lackluster action.

[Tengou]

Lol, I don't know. I kind of liked the scene of Yoruichi putting Haineko in her place with that 'sexy mature women' convo, though. Although I don't like those two getting too much screen time, they're a nice combo. And I'm all for Yoruichi getting more screentime. :p

[Akhkharu]

for some reason ive been taking notes while watching bleach lately.... it seemed like a good idea so i could remember everything that happened. it might be a TL;DR thing, but here you are :-D

shunko has a release command? this is new? i cant remember yoruichi or soifon using a command when they used it before... i could be wrong though

finally yama getting into some action...

kenpachi and his "i still wanna pwn ichigo" attitude

tenken obliterating the cavern by going bankai. i guess that komomura and his sword are too weak to defeat the captain that doesnt even have a shikai without it...

haineko is def wrong about yoruichi's clothes. if she was real, id bang her :-D

im surprised that yamaji didnt say anything about ichigo's foul language. seeing as he is old as hell and he usually at least raises an eyebrow when someone says something foul. though he does ignore it when kyoraku calls him yamaji. i guess that's a father/son relationship though.

kouga's story sounds a lot like Baishin's story from the OVA... the going crazy and killing a bunch of shinigami and then being captured at "great cost" and being sealed in KT

why does everything in bleach center around karakura town? couldnt SS have come up with a better place to imprison kouga? like antarctica!

how did muramasa survive all this time apart from his master? is that why he was consuming hollow (VL) in the menos forest? because he didnt have a source of reiatsu anymore????

is muramasa hurt when that tear rolls down his cheek or is it because his power is getting low? it should be OVER 9000!

orihime's rejection is always an awesome plotkai. i guess that answers my question about the tear...

FINALLY we see the three stooges! i was hoping this arc would include them. it would be disappointing to see a filler arc or any arc without orihime's hax powers, sado's nooby hollowish powers and ishida's douchebag powers

LOL at ichigo always blaming himself for EVERYTHING. everytime something happens he takes it personal and takes it upon himself to beat some ass...

the music when ichigo is blaming himself sounds like some gay shit from inuyasha... makes me want to fking puke...

nice that the strongest ice type zanpakuto showed up to counter the strongest fire type zanpakuto... did the animooters plan this? DUH!

what is this BS with yamaji wanting ichigo to go stop muramasa? he may be "responsible" in his own eyes... but there are 3 extremely powerful captains and the STRONGEST captain there, shouldnt they all go? ichigo may be strong and be a kind of trump card, but he's young and not even a real shinigami or part of the gotei 13. SS relies WAY to much on ichin00bs powers.
second thought about that: ichigo cant really be effected as much by muramasa because of his inner hollow, so i guess this move makes some sense... but not as much as sending the strongest captains in addition to ichigo. or at least some backup for ichigo for when (not if) he gets beat down.

i hope this filler arc isnt as long as the bounto arc >_<

this is the most we have seen ichigo put on his mask and have it broken so many times in a short amount of time (i think). i may be wrong about this though...

lol at yamaji wanting to "punish" his zanpakuto. he sounds like an old man that wants to whip his grandson's ass for stealing cookies out of the cookie jar

the previews make it look like sado and ishida are going to get pwnt ONCE AGAIN... why cant they ever be good at what they do?
on another side note: if muramasa is so old then he should be able to take down a quincy with no problem. that is considering the fact that the quincy and the shinigami were at war for a long time. I might have my timeline off a bit though.

lol at renji being broke and ukitake buying rukia a giant chappy....
why does ukitake always have to be so nice!?!?!!? >_<

why was SS so dark? dont they have daytime there anymore? WTF?

[dantoddd]

I'm fairly convinced that that this kouga character is a Kuchiki

[Jamil2009]

Kuchiki Kouga...I see it now. That's why Byakuya knows where the seal is. And in the silhouette of Kouga, he's wearing that scarf Byakuya and Ginrei wore.

Would make a lot of sense, yes. First off, it would explain why Byakuya has become a fool for his pride. It would also explain the title of the 250th episode (I think), something about 'That Man; For The Sake Of Kuchiki' (even though, as someone has rightly pointed out, these titles seem to misrepresent the themes of their respective episodes). I'm guessing Kouga is Byakuya's elder brother or uncle; maybe the person who killed Ginrei (jus saying).

Nice Chappy-deal at the end. Renji is such a broke-ass boyfriend-wannabe. Step-up CHEAPSKATE! :p

Could somebody please shoot Inoue's help-anyone-in-need-even-when-you-know-all-they-are-going-to-do-is-try-to-eradicate-your-friends-and-family-and-really-all-that-you've-come-to-know-and-love attitude? It's irksome.

[DARK]

Kuchiki Kouga...I see it now. That's why Byakuya knows where the seal is. And in the silhouette of Kouga, he's wearing that scarf Byakuya and Ginrei wore.

If that is the reasoning, it also makes sense why Byakuya is following Muramasa. His "pride" being that of the Kuchiki. Still, we can't be so sure. Muramasa himself has doubts of Byakuya's true intentions.

[espadaboyzz]

I hope Muramasa can get his master, so we can have a huge war ever......because this filler really something and many surprise element.. I wonder how Yamaji will punish his zanpakutou?

[benelori]

I'm not impressed by this episode...but I known this episode was meant to tell Muramasa's goal and to open up the new direction in the conflict Ichigo and nakam vs. Muramasa and co., but then why name the episode with such a flashy title...I know marketing is important, but this is too much...
And I didn't like Hitsu AND his zan going bankai...Zangetsu went back in Ichigo, why can't Hyourinmaru as well..

[Jamil2009]

I'm not impressed by this episode...but I known this episode was meant to tell Muramasa's goal and to open up the new direction in the conflict Ichigo and nakam vs. Muramasa and co., but then why name the episode with such a flashy title...I know marketing is important, but this is too much...

Quite true. Recalling the title, something about 'Dragon Of Fire And Dragon Of Ice: Biggest Showdown Ever', I was really expecting a serious confrontation between the Ice and Fire Masters. But we got to see some confrontation at least so...:tem


And I didn't like Hitsu AND his zan going bankai...Zangetsu went back in Ichigo, why can't Hyourinmaru as well..

One word; PLOTKAI! I've learnt to try not to over-analyse this filler because of the ubiquity of plotkai and I just watch it for the funtertainment.
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tenken obliterating the cavern by going bankai. i guess that komomura and his sword are too weak to defeat the captain that doesnt even have a shikai without it...

To be fair, Zaraki is not just any captain; almost ANYONE would need Bankai to fight him.


haineko is def wrong about yoruichi's clothes. if she was real, id bang her :-D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA; HEAR, HEAR!


kouga's story sounds a lot like Baishin's story from the OVA... the going crazy and killing a bunch of shinigami and then being captured at "great cost" and being sealed in KT

why does everything in bleach center around karakura town? couldnt SS have come up with a better place to imprison kouga? like antarctica!

I could not agree more. If I lived there I would have moved to Tokyo after the SS Arc :amuse.


FINALLY we see the three stooges! i was hoping this arc would include them. it would be disappointing to see a filler arc or any arc without orihime's hax powers, sado's nooby hollowish powers and ishida's douchebag powers

Ishida's powers aren't that bad. Remember he near-finished off Mayuri in the SS Arc.


LOL at ichigo always blaming himself for EVERYTHING. everytime something happens he takes it personal and takes it upon himself to beat some ass...

the music when ichigo is blaming himself sounds like some gay shit from inuyasha... makes me want to fking puke...

Once again, HEAR, HEAR!


nice that the strongest ice type zanpakuto showed up to counter the strongest fire type zanpakuto... did the animooters plan this? DUH!

what is this BS with yamaji wanting ichigo to go stop muramasa? he may be "responsible" in his own eyes... but there are 3 extremely powerful captains and the STRONGEST captain there, shouldnt they all go? ichigo may be strong and be a kind of trump card, but he's young and not even a real shinigami or part of the gotei 13. SS relies WAY to much on ichin00bs powers.
second thought about that: ichigo cant really be effected as much by muramasa because of his inner hollow, so i guess this move makes some sense... but not as much as sending the strongest captains in addition to ichigo. or at least some backup for ichigo for when (not if) he gets beat down.

Plotkai at work, my friend, plotkai at work.

[RumorZ]

Would make a lot of sense, yes. First off, it would explain why Byakuya has become a fool for his pride. It would also explain the title of the 250th episode (I think), something about 'That Man; For The Sake Of Kuchiki' (even though, as someone has rightly pointed out, these titles seem to misrepresent the themes of their respective episodes). I'm guessing Kouga is Byakuya's elder brother or uncle; maybe the person who killed Ginrei (jus saying).

Nice Chappy-deal at the end. Renji is such a broke-ass boyfriend-wannabe. Step-up CHEAPSKATE! :p

Could somebody please shoot Inoue's help-anyone-in-need-even-when-you-know-all-they-are-going-to-do-is-try-to-eradicate-your-friends-and-family-and-really-all-that-you've-come-to-know-and-love attitude? It's irksome.

THANK YOU!!! thats the ONLY thing thats going through my head from this episode! XD OMG OMG she helps evil and then evil kills her friends, im starting to think she belongs on the bad guys team, XD lets take the HM arc rofl.

but wow why would you heal him! she even figured he was Ichigo's enemy! and not being strange or anything, but he did try kill her -.-

please someone point me in the right direction of WHY in gods name she did that, besides her lack of common sense and silly morals...

ok aside from ranting, we knew he had to survive somehow cause no filler arc is gonna end with him being so close and collapsing even though if it did happen it would make my day and i would ROFL lol

[After_Image]

I'm all for Yoruichi getting more screentime. :p

same here. ;) we really don't get to see her do much fighting so I'm enjoying every minute we can see her actually doing battle. I also liked how she was flaunting her body. She is one hot lady that can kick some serious ass! :XD




To be fair, Zaraki is not just any captain; almost ANYONE would need Bankai to fight him.


yeah I don't really think he needs Bankai. His enormous amount of Reiatsu makes up for it; He can easily fight on even grounds with most captains.




Could somebody please shoot Inoue's help-anyone-in-need-even-when-you-know-all-they-are-going-to-do-is-try-to-eradicate-your-friends-and-family-and-really-all-that-you've-come-to-know-and-love attitude? It's irksome.

FTW!!! :rofl

[CBlitz]

so I guess the filler is almost over with all the Shinigami stuck is SS now. We'll probably get a couple eps of Ichigo's Jobber Team trying to stop Muramasa but they'll fail only to have Ichigo show up, Byakuya will betray Muramasa and reveal that he was on the Shinigami side all along for some plot related reason. Byakuya will than stall his Zanpakutou while Ichigo fights the revived Kouga with Muramasa, seeing how he is immune to Muramasa's power. Damn this does sound a lot like what he'll do against Aizen, Ichigo always manages to be immune to the one power that everyone else fails against

[RumorZ]

so I guess the filler is almost over with all the Shinigami stuck is SS now. We'll probably get a couple eps of Ichigo's Jobber Team trying to stop Muramasa but they'll fail only to have Ichigo show up, Byakuya will betray Muramasa and reveal that he was on the Shinigami side all along for some plot related reason. Byakuya will than stall his Zanpakutou while Ichigo fights the revived Kouga with Muramasa, seeing how he is immune to Muramasa's power. Damn this does sound a lot like what he'll do against Aizen, Ichigo always manages to be immune to the one power that everyone else fails against

LOL XD definitely.
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY POWER OF BEING THE MAIN CHARACTER

[DARK]

I'm not impressed by this episode...but I known this episode was meant to tell Muramasa's goal and to open up the new direction in the conflict Ichigo and nakam vs. Muramasa and co., but then why name the episode with such a flashy title...I know marketing is important, but this is too much...
And I didn't like Hitsu AND his zan going bankai...Zangetsu went back in Ichigo, why can't Hyourinmaru as well..

Most of us were too hyped up by the thought of this being a battle between Ryujin Jakka and Hyorinmaru (by the episode title). In a way, it was, but it wasn't a direct confrontation.
I'm also not too fond of Muramasa going to Karakura Town either, especially since we are bound to see more of it in the canon. I'm glad that we have finally wrapped up the identity of Muramasa's master. Muramasa doesn't seem to be too much of a prick as we thought; ironically he is loyal to his own master.

[Akhkharu]

One word; PLOTKAI! I've learnt to try not to over-analyse this filler because of the ubiquity of plotkai and I just watch it for the funtertainment.
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To be fair, Zaraki is not just any captain; almost ANYONE would need Bankai to fight him.
I could not agree more. If I lived there I would have moved to Tokyo after the SS Arc :amuse.
Ishida's powers aren't that bad. Remember he near-finished off Mayuri in the SS Arc.
Plotkai at work, my friend, plotkai at work.

I'm glad you liked my analysis of the episode. it didnt take me a lot of work. just watched the video and took notes when i saw something that sparked my interest. and yea plotkai seems prevelent throughout the episodes and manga. but over the years i guess ive come to get use to TK's writing style. and yea it's crazy that we only see one town and ALL of the SS probs happen there... ur right about kenchan, he isnt just ur average captain. he kicked nnoitra's ass with no problem, no shikai abilities, no bankai and no efforct. yea i guess ishida did almost finish off mayuri,im still not impressed with the quincy, they lost the war remember ^_~

[UnknownQuincy]

This episode kinda made me laugh at times. I don't know what the animators are gonna pull next, but I'm sure I will have a big *sigh* when they show off some random abilities of the nakama and such and then they get owned by Kouga (who is probably a Kuchiki), and eventually, Ichigo shows up and saves the day !

I hope this ends soon...

At least Yama-jii is interesting, but hopefully we never see a materialized form, just a bunch of fire. I don't like the forms too much.

I'm gonna start calling Maramasa Mura-Aizen. The Zans are his Gins and Tousens. It's all kinda funny to me.

[Darek Khort]

Hmm...so now it seems that all that pride talk by Byakuya could in fact be because someone in his clan was killed by that Kouga guy or perhaps that Kouga guy embarassed him. The idea about Kouga being a Kuchiki could also be the case as UnknownQuincy suggests.

And thus Byakuya works with Muramasa because he wants Kouga to be released so he can once and for all kill him.
Actually, perhaps Byakuya's Zanpakuto Senbonzakura could also be on Byakuya's side; afterall they both have extreme pride. I doubt Senbonzakura would betray SS; rather he too probably wants to get rid of Kouga.

[ameya730]

man this episode created so many plotkai that its beyond annoying. i know that fillers have some amount of creative freedom but this is ridiculous :facepalm

first if muramasa belonged to a previous shinigami then how come ukitake and shunsui didnt know about him considering yamamato started the academy with them

the worst part is they even ask yamamato who he was yamamato answers someone from the dark past for goddamm sakes these the past has to involve these two guys so for them to not know muramasa is beyond stupidity:mad

karakura town man i am really begining to hate this place
the people here must be super depressed one enemy after the another is attacking it :o

this filler was the only bearable thing in bleach until this episode byakuya was my favorite character till this arc came. now i am afraid every time he come onscreen cause he would be appearing only for his pride and i would be bored to death alongwith mine :s

[obamamania]

The academy wasn't the beginning of shinigami, it was the beginning of a new era. Life existed before Shunsui and Ukitake became shinigami, Yama is the ancient one.

[CBlitz]

lol so that means that Muramasa's Shinigami was sealed during Feudal Japan

[ameya730]

The academy wasn't the beginning of shinigami, it was the beginning of a new era. Life existed before Shunsui and Ukitake became shinigami, Yama is the ancient one.

correct me if i am wrong but isnt seireitei the academy founded by yamamoto. i agree that shinigami existed prior to yama but if seireitei was created by yama and shunsui and ukitaki were one of his first students then they should know about the attack on seireitei

if seireitei and shinigami academy are two different things then i guess i am wrong otherwise i still think a plot hole (albeit trivial one since it is essentially a filler) was unnecessarily created.

[espadaboyzz]

IMO, seireitei and shinigami academy is two different things. Maybe before shinigami academy was created it's only have several shinigami department to protect seireitei.. I don't know but maybe it was.

[DARK]

Can we please get back on topic?
Basically, Muramasa belonged to a Shinigami that had existed before Ukitake and Kyoraku's time. The records of their existence were said to have been erased completely, but Yamamoto was the only one who really knew their identities. There have been Shinigami prior to the formation of the Shinigami Academy, which was only about 2000 years ago. Soul Society and/or Shinigami existed long before this; quite possible the Gotei 13 was also an organization at the time.