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THM Nindo
December 27, 2009, 10:36 AM
Hi all,

Recently, I read an interview in which Kubo seems to be saying that Aizen will not be the last villain of the manga...

Now, I was wondering... if he's not the main villain... who will it be?

So, I come up with some theories... some good ones, and some bad ones just for the fun...

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1) Ichigo/Ogihci (aka Shirosaki)

It would be very nice to have Ichigo as the main villain, since we know that his Hollow is one of the strongest we've seen so far.

It could be that his friends will have to fight him in the end, or that himself will have a last showdown in his inner-world against his Hollow-self.

2) Gin

Classic.
He's been a really interesting character since the beginning, and if Aizen would just happen to die, I think he would make a fine "main villain" after Aizen.

3) Shinji

The Vizards are on the line between Good and Evil.
If Aizen really don't have anything else to show and that all the Arrancars are dead, the only ones that could go against Gotai13 are the Vizards...

I doubt that Shinji would turn "evil", but we really don't know what's their intention...
They seemed to want to take revenge against Aizen, but there's no telling if they will want to take revenge against Gotai13 afterwards.

4) Urahara

Urahara is the classic good guy that know much more than everyone else.
How exaclty is he implicated in Aizen's scheme.

I know, for sure, that Urahara is the one that knows the most about Aizen's plan. And we know that Urahara, at least, shared Aizen's interest in building a perfect hybrid race (since he's the one that created the stone).

I think Urahara might have a bigger role in the future, but I'm unsure about his real intention...
He was shown to be helping the Gotai13, but we can't be sure that he will stay with them all along.

5) Orihime

Probably not gonna happen, but she was shown to have the greatest power of all... the power to reject, and to change the reality to her own desire.

Many people suggested that Aizen changed her.
Could it be that she's now one of the bad guys?
Could it be that he "implented" a hollow in her, kinda like Ichigo has one?

Not likely, but still a possibility in the long run.

6) Aizen's boss?

It's also possible that Aizen was "working" for someone all along.
And that he was only a pawn in someone's hand, but I can't really picture that.

7) Yama-ji or the King?

It could also be revealed that Gotai13 are actually the bad guys... :o
In that case, Yama-ji, or even the King himself could be the last villain.

It would be interesting, because we are lacking enemies right now, and for Ichigo to have to fight against the best of the best, it would require him to have to fight against the Gotai13 (Shinsui, Ukitake, Unohana, Yama-ji, etc).

And the only way for them to fight one against the other is to have them take different side (ex: Gotai is evil, or Ichigo is evil, or Orihime is evil, etc).

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So what do you think?

PS:
If someone could find the interview and post the link on this thread, it would be nice...
because I can't find it back... :darn

dantoddd
December 27, 2009, 12:27 PM
From the characters introduced so far it would seem that Aizen is the final boss. And i'm doubtful about Aizen working under someone, he constantly refers to himself as god. He wouldn't do that if there was someone above him. Of course, it is entirely possible that some random villain will pop up out of nowhere.

Snake_Cowboy
December 28, 2009, 04:29 AM
While I believe that Aizen will get very far in his intentions to become God/King and that there will be one more arc with him as the final boss, I'm also certain that there's going to be a big twist paving the way for the last villain in Bleach.

The way I see it, there are two main possibilities:

1) The Spirit King: we know absolutely nothing about him, except that he lets the Gotei 13 and the Central 46 rule Soul Society in his stead, but it's possible that there's a reason for that. Perhaps the Spirit King actually turned evil and was sealed by the Royal Guard (unbeknownst to the Gotei 13), but not destroyed. And Aizen wishes to kill the Spirit King not only for his own ambitions, but to destroy him for good and thereby save Soul Society or even the whole world. That could be a reason why Aizen is so convinced of his own status as a great benevolent god. The reason why Aizen tried to stop the Spirit King the way he did was because he knew the Gotei 13, loyal and blind, would never believe him. Perhaps when Ichigo and co. kill Aizen, they allow the Spirit King to re-awaken and it's the King that becomes the final villain.

2) Urahara: I've always thought that there is something fishy about Urahara. The guy is so smart, so mysterious, I have a feeling that Kubo is planning a major twist for him. Then there's also the way that Urahara basically manipulated Ichigo to prevent Aizen from taking the Hougyoku, without telling him anything. I think that shows a great deal about Urahara's character and it could be a hint of something sinister... Then there's the possibility that Urahara consciously turned Ichigo into a hybrid... Perhaps Urahara was actually planning the very same thing Aizen was, but Aizen was one step ahead of him, got him to be exiled from Soul Society and planned to steal the Hougyoku. In other words: Urahara and Aizen are rivals rather than enemies. Perhaps once Aizen is defeated and all sides are weakened, Urahara makes his move and becomes the new King. This way, the final battle would be between Urahara and Ichigo: manipulative mentor VS heroic student.

Those two are the main possibilities I foresee, but I also think that there will be a twist with Gin. Maybe we'll see more of Hell towards the end or Shirosaki will ceise control of Ichigo's body and become the last villain to conquer.

Travis
December 28, 2009, 09:22 AM
I think Gin as a main villain is laughable. We haven't seen anything from him to make us think he's anything more than a great number 2. He has an attachment to Matsumoto. However, we didn't see his reaction when Allon almost killed her. Gin's shikai just extends and his ban kai would have to be something special. Aizen has been influencing Gin since he was a boy. Everything we've seen from Aizen, the ability to one shot captains and to perform high-level kido spells with no chant. We've only recently seen Hyori get sliced in half by Gin, but that isn't a special feat considering how angry she gets.

The only way I see Gin turning on Aizen is if he threatens Matsumoto.

Urahara being a main villain would be bad I think. He's close to Yoruichi and he basically trained Ichigo. He has a connection to Ishin. It wouldn't make sense to turn on all those people. Sure Kubo could write a reason in but I don't think it could make sense. I know it sounded fishy Urahara not telling Ichigo about Aizen and their real objective, but that was for writing purposes so that the readers would be surprised when Aizen was alive and turned on everyone. If Urahara explained about Aizen, Gin, and Tousen, and how Aizen got him kicked out of SS, then the story wouldn't have been as interesting as that huge plot twist.

Right now I don't think anyone we know of will beat Aizen for main villain. I kind of doubt the King would be a main villain, but perhaps he is. After seeing the way Central 46 operates, he could be corrupt too.


Although we've seen a pretty lackluster fight between Ichigo and his hollow, I don't want to see them fight again. It's too disappointing really and I don't really see how his hollow can really threaten him anymore than he did in their first confrontation.

Shinji is too weak to be a main villain.

Orihime? Never in a million years.

Aizen doesn't have a boss.

If there is going to be a main villain after Aizen then I don't think we've met the person yet.

poobert
December 28, 2009, 03:53 PM
Gin would be interesting, but personally I think that it is going to be whoever trained Aizen. A VC doesn't learn high level kido by themselves.

I think there has to be another Aizen back story. We need to know how Aizen got to where he was in the Vizard flashback. How did he become VC? How did he learn his skills, when did he first discover the power of KS.... whoever first made Aizen a shinigami, or was present when Aizen learned his shikai would know of its abilities. Aizen himself would not have known what KS does, so he would not have hidden it from the first character to witness it.

Who ever made Aizen in to the twisted guy he is will likely imho be the final villain.

Drmke
December 28, 2009, 03:59 PM
Gin. Why? Kubo said he has two more arcs planned after this one. Aizen will most likely lose during this arc or become less important imo. Gin has done almost zero fighting so far leading me to think he has more importance than we have been lead to believe.

Having whoever trained Aizen show up and be the final villain seems kinda lame to me. Some random guy we have never seen before just show up and be the final villain just doesn't feel right.

THM Nindo
December 29, 2009, 10:45 AM
1) The Spirit King: we know absolutely nothing about him, except that he lets the Gotei 13 and the Central 46 rule Soul Society in his stead, but it's possible that there's a reason for that. Perhaps the Spirit King actually turned evil and was sealed by the Royal Guard (unbeknownst to the Gotei 13), but not destroyed. And Aizen wishes to kill the Spirit King not only for his own ambitions, but to destroy him for good and thereby save Soul Society or even the whole world. That could be a reason why Aizen is so convinced of his own status as a great benevolent god. The reason why Aizen tried to stop the Spirit King the way he did was because he knew the Gotei 13, loyal and blind, would never believe him. Perhaps when Ichigo and co. kill Aizen, they allow the Spirit King to re-awaken and it's the King that becomes the final villain.


Have you been following the fillers lately!? :tem
It sound a lot like the fillers plot.

But, it could happen.
Maybe the best of the best are sent to the "King's realm" because they need the best of the best to keep the King sealed away.

Maybe Aizen intend to get the key to free the King.
And then, the King will be the biggest villain ever!!

That could be nice.

Travis
December 29, 2009, 10:48 AM
Gin would be interesting, but personally I think that it is going to be whoever trained Aizen. A VC doesn't learn high level kido by themselves.

I think there has to be another Aizen back story. We need to know how Aizen got to where he was in the Vizard flashback. How did he become VC? How did he learn his skills, when did he first discover the power of KS.... whoever first made Aizen a shinigami, or was present when Aizen learned his shikai would know of its abilities. Aizen himself would not have known what KS does, so he would not have hidden it from the first character to witness it.

Who ever made Aizen in to the twisted guy he is will likely imho be the final villain.

You say whoever trained Aizen and made him who he is today would be a great villain, but then you say Gin would also be great or interesting? Aizen is the one who trained Gin, and likely turned him into what he is today because he's been influencing him since he was a boy. Maybe Aizen didn't train his subordinates and just let them grow on their own, making them strong on their own, but he definitely influenced Tousen and Gin greatly.

We haven't seen Gin do anything remarkable. We don't know what his goals are and whether they align with Aizen's or not, but I don't see how he can be more powerful than Aizen.

About someone else being there that taught Aizen his shikai, that was probably his zanpaktou spirit. Why would another person need to train him on that. Also, we don't know if he needed someone else to teach him the kido. It might be possible to just study the kido by learning the chant and then practice performing it. Maybe he used his hypnosis to get access to some of the restricted kido books or resources to learn forbidden and/or high level techniques.

I just don't like that logic, because although there could be someone who trained Aizen. You could use that same logic with the trainer. Meaning there could be an even more powerful main villain that trained the guy that trained Aizen.

It's likely Aizen was always like this, or perhaps he had something traumatic happen to him when he was young, but that doesn't necessarily mean that someone was really strong that made him what he is today.

Saint Markus
December 29, 2009, 03:49 PM
hey, someone who can draw really, really well. do this:

Ichigo in Aizen's outfit with the hollow mask only from when he fought Ulquiorra on top of the dome.

bottom of pic reads "Coming Soon".

poobert
December 29, 2009, 04:13 PM
You say whoever trained Aizen and made him who he is today would be a great villain, but then you say Gin would also be great or interesting?............................

I just don't like that logic, because although there could be someone who trained Aizen. You could use that same logic with the trainer. Meaning there could be an even more powerful main villain that trained the guy that trained Aizen.



Well, you see, Gin is a character we know about. If we are not inventing characters, then he seems most likely to be a final villain if Aizen is not, considering there are only 2 bad guys right now, and one in Aizen. Every other character is good and it would be a huge stretch to turn them evil.

I like the idea that the guy that trained Aizen will be a villain, because I picture Shakuma Raregroove from Rave. This old wizened character, with a huge beard that is uber powerful, with a seemingly invincible disciple (haja).

It may not seem likely, but it is cool in my head :P

Gran Maestro
December 29, 2009, 07:02 PM
Let's look at the options:

Aizen: No. If Bleach won't end in the next arc, he can't be.

Ichigo (Shirosaki): No. The main protagonist has to fight the main antagonist, so they can't be the same person.

Gin: No. You can't be a good main villain if you were the underling of former main villain. And Gin isn't that strong.

Urahara: No. He did nothing that hints he's a bad person, he's the childhood friend of Yoruichi and he didn't use Hougyoku for his evil schemes.

Shinji: No. Neither his character nor his past is suitable for a villain.

Orihime (with or without a Hollow?): No. She is Ichigo's nakama.

Aizen's possible Boss: No. Aizen doesn't have a boss. You can't sit on the top of the world if this place is occupied by your boss.

Gotai13 (Yama-ji or the King): No. If you are evil, you don't reveal your true nature when you are semi-retired.

Other (explain): A member/some members of zero division. If Isshin was a member of RGs, I suspect we will see the future villain in the mini-arc.

MegaX
December 30, 2009, 03:41 PM
Considering how little we've seen Gin actually do, it wouldn't surprise me if he turned out to be the next villain.

mihsaan
December 31, 2009, 10:06 AM
if aizen doesnt turn out to be the final boss then i would have to say Gin
as for proof look at the colour spread from the chapter before the last one, hes the guy standing at the top corner looking down at ichigo and aizen and tousen are both prepping to attack ichigo, seems to me like classic final boss character foreshadowing

Delbi
December 31, 2009, 10:36 AM
I have a feeling the last boss is going to be the King.

As it stands, Aizen, Gin, and Wonderboy are the only true villians left. As long as Ichigo is around, the the Vizards and SS are going to be relatively peaceful. So, unless there are new villains introduced, I think the King will be the final villian.

Aizen to me, seems to be hiding something, I think he wants to kill the King because the King is in fact evil, and I think Ichigo will kill Aizen only for Aizen to tell him he's a fool and he has no chance of defeating the Royal Guard and the King.

We'll then have the best from SS and the Vizards teaming up with Ichigo and perhaps his pops to take down the King and the Guard.

dflynchimp
December 31, 2009, 01:14 PM
I have a feeling the last boss is going to be the King.

As it stands, Aizen, Gin, and Wonderboy are the only true villians left. As long as Ichigo is around, the the Vizards and SS are going to be relatively peaceful. So, unless there are new villains introduced, I think the King will be the final villian.

Aizen to me, seems to be hiding something, I think he wants to kill the King because the King is in fact evil, and I think Ichigo will kill Aizen only for Aizen to tell him he's a fool and he has no chance of defeating the Royal Guard and the King.

We'll then have the best from SS and the Vizards teaming up with Ichigo and perhaps his pops to take down the King and the Guard.

Delbi?! Is that you?! WELCOME BACK!!!

haha I still think Aizen is the final villian. At this point there aren't many ways that Kubo can introduce a new villian and make him/her more powerful than Aizen without coming off as contrived or shark-jumping.

I'm still on the boat that if Kubo wants to stretch this series out further than the current arc he'll probably have Aizen narrowly win/lose to SS+Ichi, then retreat to HM to perfect his next line of Espada, which probably are all vastrolorde AKA strong as frick. Yammy will be no comparison.

Yondaime Uzumaki
December 31, 2009, 01:44 PM
Gin: No. You can't be a good main villain if you were the underling of former main villain. And Gin isn't that strong.


I don't know where you got your info from, but Gin is easily one of the strongest and most mysterious characters. That's a pretty big statement for you to have not even seen his Bankai

THM Nindo
December 31, 2009, 03:01 PM
I have a feeling the last boss is going to be the King.

As it stands, Aizen, Gin, and Wonderboy are the only true villians left. As long as Ichigo is around, the the Vizards and SS are going to be relatively peaceful. So, unless there are new villains introduced, I think the King will be the final villian.

Aizen to me, seems to be hiding something, I think he wants to kill the King because the King is in fact evil, and I think Ichigo will kill Aizen only for Aizen to tell him he's a fool and he has no chance of defeating the Royal Guard and the King.

We'll then have the best from SS and the Vizards teaming up with Ichigo and perhaps his pops to take down the King and the Guard.

I share your feelings.
I think that, in all the choices I put, the two that makes the more sense is the King, and Shirosaki.

I have the feeling that the King is actually evil and that the people send in Squad Zero are sent to seal him away, not to protect him.

As for Aizen, I'm not sure he wants to get to the King to defeat him...
I have the feeling he might want to get to him to free him instead.

And, so far, Shirosaki hasn't been a really bad guys, other than trying to take over Ichigo, he didn't do a lot of bad things, but I think he's possibly the greatest villain that Ichigo could have.

Ichigo is powerful, but almost only because he has Shirosaki.
(Kinda like Naruto and Kyubbi), so I think it's not out of the question that in the end, Ichigo has to defeat him (Inner battle?).

Or maybe he will defeat him before that, and will put him under better control so that he doesn't lose control... I don't know.

PS:
Urahara as a bad guy would be a fucking plot-twist that I will like as much as I will dislike it (I like the guy!)
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Delbi?! Is that you?! WELCOME BACK!!!

haha I still think Aizen is the final villian. At this point there aren't many ways that Kubo can introduce a new villian and make him/her more powerful than Aizen without coming off as contrived or shark-jumping.

I'm still on the boat that if Kubo wants to stretch this series out further than the current arc he'll probably have Aizen narrowly win/lose to SS+Ichi, then retreat to HM to perfect his next line of Espada, which probably are all vastrolorde AKA strong as frick. Yammy will be no comparison.

Aizen coming back with another 10 guys would be the lamest thing that Kubo could do...

He almost killed his manga doing it once with the Espada...
If he does that again with Vastolordes instead, he will certainly kill it for good.

We need plot-twist and good story-telling (I know, I'm asking for a lot from Kubo :tem).

We need to learn more about Isshin, Urahara, the Vizards, and especially the Squad Zero and the King.

That's why I think that the next arc and the next villains could be related to Squad Zero and the King.

If the King is evil, it's not out of the question that many people want to free him.
Aizen might only be one of them. He might be part of a organization that wants to free the King, and his «role» was to get the Key.

I strongly believe that would be the most interesting way to proceed...
And certainly not with another Aizen + his lame army (part 2) VS the World.

Gran Maestro
December 31, 2009, 07:58 PM
I don't know where you got your info from, but Gin is easily one of the strongest and most mysterious characters. That's a pretty big statement for you to have not even seen his Bankai

I got my info from the manga, the main villain I picture in my mind can easily outclass Hitsugaya's shikai without releasing his sword. I know Gin is quite popular and people have different theories about his subpar performance against Hitsugaya but unless Kubo fixes it, the fact is he didn't seem impressive at all.

All the hype about Gin seems to come from his being Aizen's right-hand man. He also has the "genius" label on him but after Kaien's disastrous performance against a hollow, I take this label with a grain of salt. He also defeated a 3rd seat at a young age but so did Sado (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/105/15/), so this point is moot too.

emanresu
January 03, 2010, 05:40 AM
What if... Kisuke, Isshin & Ryuuken pull an Sousuke, Gin & Kaname.

But this time instead dealing with Gotei 13 , the plot is more of them against the Royal Guards + King.

Would you still read Bleach.

Delbi
January 03, 2010, 12:58 PM
Delbi?! Is that you?! WELCOME BACK!!!

haha I still think Aizen is the final villian. At this point there aren't many ways that Kubo can introduce a new villian and make him/her more powerful than Aizen without coming off as contrived or shark-jumping.

I'm still on the boat that if Kubo wants to stretch this series out further than the current arc he'll probably have Aizen narrowly win/lose to SS+Ichi, then retreat to HM to perfect his next line of Espada, which probably are all vastrolorde AKA strong as frick. Yammy will be no comparison.

Haha yea it's good to be back.

And yea, Aizen being the final villlian probably makes the most sense, but he's going to need to re-tool to do so. He only has two cronies now, and against all of SS and the Vizards he seems kind of fucked haha.

But I think the Royal Guard can be more powerful than Aizen. Weren't they supposed to be the strongest of the captains, hence why they were ordered to guard the King? Whether or not they'll be good or not remains to be seen though.

Personally, I want Aizen to have some VL's in his back pocket, I still think Wonderweiss is one of them, but who knows.

poobert
January 03, 2010, 02:45 PM
Personally, I want Aizen to have some VL's in his back pocket, I still think Wonderweiss is one of them, but who knows.

The way I figure it, is that the later we see something, the better it has to be. Hopefully having Tousen release and die before seeing anything at all from WW bodes well for the possibility of a VL. That said, we have yet to see the end of Yammi and it looks like Aizen is going to do some fighting and all before we get back.

I forgot to include Yami in my list of bad guys still alive.... not that it matters.

One more thing. Why have people voted for Uruhara? Aizen hid his identity for years and then a hundred more. If Uruhara (insert any good guy) all of a sudden does the same, people are going to flip out.

Linfone
January 19, 2010, 02:36 PM
What about that thing that Mayuri found in Granz's lab...?

What is it?

Dead Vasto Lord methinks...

What killed it?

Hmm....

Saint Markus
January 19, 2010, 04:37 PM
the Spirit King will be the last villain. he sees and rules all below himself.

Mangakotlar
January 19, 2010, 04:53 PM
The last villain will be Kubo Tite himself, and Kubo Tite can't lose. Hencetoforth Kubo Tite will win.

conn-man
January 19, 2010, 05:26 PM
why does gin have so many votes? hes not final villain material, all he has going for him at this point is his bankai which will probably be managable for someone. im certain he has hollow powers to that will make him even more dangerous but aizen gave him those, which means he didnt earn them which means they wont be unbeatable.

Xerneas
January 20, 2010, 10:02 AM
Lol. The overhyping of Gin never fails to amuse me. All the forums will crash when he inevitably gets his ass handed to him by someone not in the top-tier of power. Anyway, its either going to be Aizen-sama or a VL. With so many good guys left, Kubo is setting up Vasto Lordes to be major antagonists, rather than minions of Aizen. They could turn on him at some point. I don't buy the "King is evil" theory, although its not out of the question that Royal Guard could have some shady members.

savantking
January 23, 2010, 03:15 PM
Its not overhyping persay. He's lieutenant for some reason right? and he's still alive and hasn't even revealed bankai or ressurecion. Its just he's even more mysterious in terms of character than the main villain. We don't know a single thing about his motivations and we really haven't seen much about him. He's released what 2-3 times total and he never seemed serious. Also he's not had a fight at FKT and even Aizen is fighting. Its kinda weird when the general is fighting before the lieutenant right?

conn-man
January 23, 2010, 03:17 PM
. Also he's not had a fight at FKT and even Aizen is fighting. Its kinda weird when the general is fighting before the lieutenant right?

as true as that is i still see gin using up all his abilities before we see all of aizens.

Tabaro Foka
April 12, 2011, 05:04 PM
Now after this Shinigami substitute arc I have a theory what is coming.After the defeating of Tsukishima and Ichigo regaining his shinigami/hollow powers.
At that time in Soul Society appears new villian.But this one is different he will be the main antagonist in Bleach and most powerfull from all of them.In the begining of Soul Society there existed some noble clans who were beyond others with power given from Spirit King.But for one of this clan this power wasn't enought they want the absolute power to be worshiped like gods from everyone hollows,humans,shinigamis and other races.Spirit King destroyed this clan and deleted them from the history long ago.They became only myth but one of them survived.He shatered his reiatsu,and disappeared in Seiretei.There he found a woman who fell in love with him.They were one night together.After that night with unknown man this woman became pregnant.The name of the kid was Aizen Sasuke.Like a son of a father who was one of the strongest Soul Reapers Aizen posses an amazing reiatsu.

20 years before bleach story Isshin was captain of 10 Squad he was send on mission to invistigate some incidents with dead shinigamis he found there this man and they have a fight.This oponent was too strong for Isshin to defeat him with bankai or kido.He used the Final Getsuga Tenshou and his enemy was beaten but not destroyed again like in the beging he survived.Isshin lost his shinigami powers.Then he went to Karakura Town found the banished shinigami Urahara who made a gigai for him.One day Masaki met hin incidently on the stree and they fell in love.Their first born kid Ichigo was destined to have unbelivable reiatsu like a son of a head of former noble clan(Shiba) and human he was special from the beginig..Everyone in Soul Society thought that Ishhin was killed.After the last known head was no more between them The Shiba clan was dead.They were no more one from the great five noble clans.
Aizen don't know who is his father only from his mother that he was a shinigami.Aizen and his mother lived poor in Seiretei.One day his mother died.Aizen blamed for her dead his father.He becames to hate every shigami and he wishes only one thing to destroy them from the first one to the lest one.He wishes to be on the trone of SS and to made a new world.But to be on the top he must first to destroy Spirit King,Royal Guard and his family.

What is Unohana connection to this story?Well Unohana is old and like we know from Tite Kubo she existed from the begining.Unohana was connected to Aizen father's clan..And when he return she will be on his side.Yes Unohana true face is evil!Of course this man in the last 20 years when he lost to Isshin looks everywhere to find strong beings who to fight against all Soul Society forces.He choses only amazing fighters.His lest recruitments will be from Mugen prison.Like we know this is the prison for
the most dangerous criminal and there he will meet Aizen.And there you have Azien in the story again.

White Silver King
April 12, 2011, 06:11 PM
That is very unlikely. Creative, but unlikely.

Tabaro Foka
April 16, 2011, 10:42 AM
Ok possible last villian

1)Former royal guard member
2)Some ancient being like Spirit king
3)Someone very powerfull character from Mugen prison
4)Aizen returns like main villian(he will return but personally for me like support villian )
5)Tite actually made Vasto Lordes like the main villians
6)Spirit King is evil
7)Someone again betrayed Gotei 13(Mayuri for example)
8) Urahara Kisuke
9)Someone from the two unknown noble clans(we know Kuchiki,Shihōin and former Shiba)
10) This two misterious bodies found from Mayuri in Sayzel lab

cracker
April 16, 2011, 11:01 AM
Who knows? The man said he possibly wants to continue for another ten years if he can -__-

g0dzax
April 16, 2011, 01:55 PM
The Spirit King,or Urahara.I want one of these two to be the main villain.Spirit King because ...well he's got to be something special,or Urahara since he's the most intelligent being in Bleach(stated by Aizen himself).

Bromamura
April 18, 2011, 07:19 AM
I personally hope it's not Urahara, I've really had enough of Aizen troll face, for him to be only the lesser of two evils would be unbearable. Kubo should deviate from the 'genius who always plans 500 steps ahead and deceived everyone into thinking he was a good guy' route. I'd prefer a classic dark overlord kind of character who's not a bishi, maybe with a demonic appearance. Also ideally the final villain does not end up a power jacker, a la Blackbeard (WB 2.0) or Madara (lulz rinnegan was mine all along bitch).

daman246
April 18, 2011, 01:08 PM
is gonna be aizen obvously he didnt get sealed for no reason kubo is planning for his return + he hasnt show us hes godly bankai since his shikai is the strongest there is just imagine his bankai

Richo
April 18, 2011, 01:17 PM
is gonna be aizen obvously he didnt get sealed for no reason kubo is planning for his return + he hasnt show us hes godly bankai since his shikai is the strongest there is just imagine his bankai

Aizen did get sealed by Urahara, only the seal seems to be able to be changed. After the sentence I gues the seal was reaplied and he was cast into prison....

Personaly I hope for either of the following:
-Some sort of Ancient hollow (what kind doesn't realy matter if it is a Vasto lorde, normal hollow or Arrancar)
- Spirit King + Royal gaurd (intermediate for the last Arc in bleach)
- an entity from a realm where it was locked up long before the current state of SS (4000+ years atleast)

Personaly I hope for a combination of the first 2 choices where as the final villain being a hollow, who just had a very long time to grow stronger, and like I said it doesnt need to be a Vasto lodre or arrancar but could also be a normal hollow with unlimited potential.

Takahashi
April 18, 2011, 02:48 PM
-Some sort of Ancient hollow (what kind doesn't realy matter if it is a Vasto lorde, normal hollow or Arrancar)

That would actually be interesting to see. Maybe not for the last villain, but it'd be a nice addition.

samuraiyokai
April 18, 2011, 03:51 PM
Ok my theory is the last villian will be Uryū Ishida!

My reasons:
1. Hes a quincy the natural enemy of soul reapers.
2. All the quincy were wiped out by the shinigami I dont think Uryu will forget the practical genocide of his race.
3. He has always not really seen eye to eye with ichigo.
4. He always seems distant and self contained and not quite with the group apart from with orihime. (This leads on to my next point)
5. As the manga develops Ichigo and Orihimes love may ignite and uryu I think may become envious of ichigo for this.

Theres my reasons. I think uryu may obtain the power to revive all of the quincys this will therefore create the destruction of the world and ichigo will face of against high ranking old quincys and eventually a newly powerful uryu.

Xerneas
April 19, 2011, 11:11 AM
Looking back at my old post in this topic I can't help but lol at how Kubo makes even the most alert readers of his manga look utterly foolish sometimes. Since then my thoughts changed completely.

Its obvious now that either Soul King and/or his main guard is gonna be the final villain. Urahara will probably be a major antagonist since he supports their operations.

Aizen can't be the FV because he got completely embarrassed. He was outclassed physically by Ichigo and mentally by Urahara. No remotely decent writer is gonna have a major villain who's credibility has been shot to hell. Reader expectations that are already extremely low as it is for villain success, would completely evaporate in such a case. Kubo kept him alive for something else. I still feel that his lifelong wish to get into the Royal Dimension will come true, but things won't end well for him.

Zeltrax
April 21, 2011, 05:46 AM
Who knows? The man said he possibly wants to continue for another ten years if he can -__-
I agree with every word this person have said.

AlB
April 21, 2011, 01:45 PM
I honestly believe that Soul King/Gotei 13 will be the final villain(s), even more: I see Aizen and Ichigo (and possibly Vizards) teaming up against Soul Society, Royal Guard and Urahara (who strongly believes that King can not be replasced) in order to install a new regime over the world.
"Why?" many would ask, "The king has done nothing at all!"
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the who~le point. Could you imagine what would happen to a successful, democratic/totalitarian country where a president suddenly packs up, boards a plane to Hawaii for indefinite time and leaves the country in the hands of some greedy bastards who care for nothing but their own well-being? The result would be pretty much the current state of the SS, no? Militaristic center and the rest of the state reduced to slums where authorities are not even trying to fight starvation and crime. People starve, get beaten, raped, murdered just because nobody gives a crap for them. It is only natural that certain people who have some kind of potential, like Aizen in this case, would strive to make a difference, introduce a little change. The man starts acting: he has perfect ability for ensuring the success of his plans (Kyoka Suigetsu) and he gathers a couple of followers, who, as he is sure, will not betray him immediately. After that he devices Hogyoku and eliminates the only threat in Soul Society (Hirako Shinji) as early as possible. 100 years later Aizen openly challenges Soul Society and starts a war, which would have been successful if not for 2 factors:
1. Arrogance - not much to explain here, let's just say he would benefit much more if he actually treated his allies like they were more than mere shit and tried recruiting people like Ishida and Ichigo. (At least the former would have joined him eagerly)
2. Aizen was soft! Yep, he most certainly was. How many of the Soul Society captains and vizards died in the war? Heck he could have slaughtered them with no problem, the guy slices through Bankais like hot knife through butter. The dude had a clear plan: Become the king and reform the system without plunging SS into chaos. I mean, really, imagine what would have happened if Aizen had killed them: Yes, he would become the king, but, seeing that most of his intelligent arrancar were dead, he would lose control of trillions of people, and even more or less orderly rukon regions would have succumbed to total chaos. The soul burial procedures around the world would have been seriously messed up without proper coordination and god-only know how many people would have ended up hollow. My point is, that while Aizen mindfucked people he still left them alive, he was soft on them, which, ultimately led to his downfall. I mean, what was keeping him from travelling to real world and stabbing Urahara in his sleep? The only one Aizen did want to kill was Yamamoto, for obvious reasons.
My overall point is, Kubo strongly implies that Aizen is not your everyday mad terrorist.
Now, Aizen is sealed in an underground prison and probably f*cks his own mind trying to figure out where he had gone wrong :amuse Let's leave him there for a while :amuse

Now to Ichigo.
The current arc obviously serves as a device to give Ichigo yet another ridiculous power-up: Fullbring. Just imagine what kind of monster Berry-tan will turn out: Vizard with a fullbring :darn He most certainly will, in terms of raw power, become on par with captains like Shunsui and Unohana. I mean he will have Bankai, Mask, Ressureccion (no way Kubo will drag manga for 10 years without Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo) and some pretty broken Fullbring - That is no joke. (Here goes wild speculation:) After the end of the curent Fullbring arc Ichigo, in some way, will come into conflict with Urahara and Soul Society due to some sassy reasons. I honestly see Ichigo going "WTF, where are my friends going to end up when they die O_O" at some point during the confilct. He will, of course, act like a total idiot he is, and Central 46 and Gotei 13 will outlaw him. Seeing that even with Vizard's and his "nakama's" help he won't be able to compete with a combined power of entire Soul Society (Yama ftw) and Urahara, Yoruichi and Tessai (perhaps even Isshin) Ichigo will arrive at a single logical solution: "must get a help from an immortal guy who has already put the bastards in their place".

Back to Aizen-samaaa! yaay! :amuse
Ichigo will rescue Aizen from prison and together they wage war on Soul Society and, conseequently, Soul King who will turn out to be either a total douche or a complete impotent.

Whew, that was quite a rant :tem and a bit of wild speculation :blink Still, I believe that this will be general course of manga in the future!
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Who knows? The man said he possibly wants to continue for another ten years if he can -__-

The dude said that Aizen was his favourite char, so I guess that there is some room for even slightly accurate speculation :)

absolute Zero
April 21, 2011, 03:21 PM
The king is going to be the evil villain because Aizen would have not gone through all that trouble to obtain power for absolutely no reason unless the soul king was evil.Kisuke is probably going to stand against this epically if decides to said with Aizen

Crystal Black
April 21, 2011, 05:45 PM
I honestly believe that Soul King/Gotei 13 will be the final villain(s), even more: I see Aizen and Ichigo (and possibly Vizards) teaming up against Soul Society, Royal Guard and Urahara (who strongly believes that King can not be replasced) in order to install a new regime over the world.
"Why?" many would ask, "The king has done nothing at all!"
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the who~le point. Could you imagine what would happen to a successful, democratic/totalitarian country where a president suddenly packs up, boards a plane to Hawaii for indefinite time and leaves the country in the hands of some greedy bastards who care for nothing but their own well-being? The result would be pretty much the current state of the SS, no? Militaristic center and the rest of the state reduced to slums where authorities are not even trying to fight starvation and crime. People starve, get beaten, raped, murdered just because nobody gives a crap for them. It is only natural that certain people who have some kind of potential, like Aizen in this case, would strive to make a difference, introduce a little change. The man starts acting: he has perfect ability for ensuring the success of his plans (Kyoka Suigetsu) and he gathers a couple of followers, who, as he is sure, will not betray him immediately. After that he devices Hogyoku and eliminates the only threat in Soul Society (Hirako Shinji) as early as possible. 100 years later Aizen openly challenges Soul Society and starts a war, which would have been successful if not for 2 factors:
1. Arrogance - not much to explain here, let's just say he would benefit much more if he actually treated his allies like they were more than mere shit and tried recruiting people like Ishida and Ichigo. (At least the former would have joined him eagerly)
2. Aizen was soft! Yep, he most certainly was. How many of the Soul Society captains and vizards died in the war? Heck he could have slaughtered them with no problem, the guy slices through Bankais like hot knife through butter. The dude had a clear plan: Become the king and reform the system without plunging SS into chaos. I mean, really, imagine what would have happened if Aizen had killed them: Yes, he would become the king, but, seeing that most of his intelligent arrancar were dead, he would lose control of trillions of people, and even more or less orderly rukon regions would have succumbed to total chaos. The soul burial procedures around the world would have been seriously messed up without proper coordination and god-only know how many people would have ended up hollow. My point is, that while Aizen mindfucked people he still left them alive, he was soft on them, which, ultimately led to his downfall. I mean, what was keeping him from travelling to real world and stabbing Urahara in his sleep? The only one Aizen did want to kill was Yamamoto, for obvious reasons.
My overall point is, Kubo strongly implies that Aizen is not your everyday mad terrorist.
Now, Aizen is sealed in an underground prison and probably f*cks his own mind trying to figure out where he had gone wrong :amuse Let's leave him there for a while :amuse

Now to Ichigo.
The current arc obviously serves as a device to give Ichigo yet another ridiculous power-up: Fullbring. Just imagine what kind of monster Berry-tan will turn out: Vizard with a fullbring :darn He most certainly will, in terms of raw power, become on par with captains like Shunsui and Unohana. I mean he will have Bankai, Mask, Ressureccion (no way Kubo will drag manga for 10 years without Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo) and some pretty broken Fullbring - That is no joke. (Here goes wild speculation:) After the end of the curent Fullbring arc Ichigo, in some way, will come into conflict with Urahara and Soul Society due to some sassy reasons. I honestly see Ichigo going "WTF, where are my friends going to end up when they die O_O" at some point during the confilct. He will, of course, act like a total idiot he is, and Central 46 and Gotei 13 will outlaw him. Seeing that even with Vizard's and his "nakama's" help he won't be able to compete with a combined power of entire Soul Society (Yama ftw) and Urahara, Yoruichi and Tessai (perhaps even Isshin) Ichigo will arrive at a single logical solution: "must get a help from an immortal guy who has already put the bastards in their place".

Back to Aizen-samaaa! yaay! :amuse
Ichigo will rescue Aizen from prison and together they wage war on Soul Society and, conseequently, Soul King who will turn out to be either a total douche or a complete impotent.

Whew, that was quite a rant :tem and a bit of wild speculation :blink Still, I believe that this will be general course of manga in the future!
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The dude said that Aizen was his favourite char, so I guess that there is some room for even slightly accurate speculation :)

So basically your whole theory is the Royal Guard, Gotei 13(10), and Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi vs Ichigo and (crew), Vizards and Aizen. Sounds good but highly doubtful imo.

Zeltrax
April 22, 2011, 09:19 AM
Soul Society Revolution.
I can see an arc like that coming, SS fighting the royal guards
with Ichigo going up against the boss :blink

AlB
April 22, 2011, 12:43 PM
So basically your whole theory is the Royal Guard, Gotei 13(10), and Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi vs Ichigo and (crew), Vizards and Aizen. Sounds good but highly doubtful imo.

doubtful, but bad-ass eh? :amuse

Another possibility of course is the routine "Bad Guy breaks out, assembles another fodder army and ones again gets beaten up by Good Guy" which is much less appealing.
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Soul Society Revolution.
I can see an arc like that coming, SS fighting the royal guards
with Ichigo going up against the boss :blink

That is interesting as well, but RG sound like they would eat SS alive since they are Best of All Time .

kulash05
April 22, 2011, 07:07 PM
Maybe I didn't read over all of them yet, but I didn't see anyone who said hollow ichigo.

Xerneas
April 26, 2011, 12:34 PM
Its too late for Ogihci to be the villain. Kubo had a chance in HM to do it but didn't. Those votes you see for him were all casted a long time ago. He already submitted completely to Ichigo and handed over all his strength. So it wouldn't make any sense if he came back and went back to antagonizing Ichigo again. Thats the opposite of character development.

jashinking
April 30, 2011, 11:52 AM
i think it going to go in a whole new story with new people. I also think that Urahara is up to something we just need to wait and see

THM Nindo
April 30, 2011, 01:51 PM
Since I created that thread my theory hasn't changed.
I'm still sure that the main villain will be the Soul King.

And, like many others, I think that Ichigo will go against Soul Society (forcing those that didn't show their bankai yet to show it!!).
He might split the Soul Society in two and get some allies (Toshiro for example).

And, I've always thought that Urahara was strange and was planning something on the side, and I think that he might serve as the main villain for a while, siding with the SS or the King.

Giving that we haven't seen Aizen's Bankai, it's very likely that we'll see him again...
Now, someone said that Aizen might actually be an ally of Ichigo this time around...
That's not a bad idea, but he would need to be limited in his power, otherwise it's not even going to be fun...

Could you imagine Aizen+Ichigo vs Soul Society? :tem

Well, we'll see what Kubo has in mind, but I certainly like that idea.

Crystal Black
April 30, 2011, 02:30 PM
I'm not to sure who will be the final villain but, recent events are slowly pointing towards the Soul King and the Royal Realm. We know Urahara supports the king as of now, but for how long. The Gotei might support the King as well, but I have my doubts that all of them will do so. Clearly the most popular captains like Byakuya, Hitsugaya, and Kenpachi will support Ichigo. Then there's that talk Isshin and Kisuke was having in the alley. Can't really say as of now but the RG seems like the next antagonists imo.