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monkey D luffy
January 03, 2010, 05:02 PM
i was thinking of how the strawhats can power up with things that we are already introduced to in the manga as well as things we can make up so heres what i came up with

most of the strawhats can benefit from using rokushiki techniques

sanji can use that rankyouku (probably mispelled that) and soru to become even fester.

zoro can use the same technique and tekkai to suffer less injuries when fighting.

ussop can use that flying technique to get a better view to snipe and not getting hurt in the process

chopper can use seimei kiken to enhance his df power, also shigan horn point will be amazingly powerfull

robin absolutly have to use rokougan and shigan seeing how she can use these techniques in the most efficient manner like multiple roukougan from different sides to prevent someone dodging or shiganing from behind or something like that

franky should have tekkai to have the worlds toughest body (double metal) and also the flying ability so he use coup de vent from above

luffy should have all the abilities rokushiki users have

brook should use soru to become insanly fast but since we dont really seen him fight yet i cant really be sure if he should have any of the techiques

couldnt find something nami should use with her fighting style

moving on, the following df's should be given the strawhats:

mr5's power to usopp's kabuto, also his partner's abilty can help (exploding everything making him gambit from xman or just shooting insanely heavy bullets at max velocity)

nami should get the weather df as it will compliment her fighting style perfectly

sanji and zoro should not get any df's itll ruin their fighting style, if they must they should only get zoans and not crappy ones but once that will actually benefit them

not sure about franky


i hope people can contribute to this thread

chess4
January 04, 2010, 02:31 AM
first off i think that both sanji and zoro can use haki. that would explain why they are so strong.

luffy will learn off kings haki and will try and begin to use it. sanji will incorporate a bit of okama kempo into his arsenal. whoever the person on the island with zoro, will help him in some way. brrok may learn some music attack techs. franky will get parts upgrade. chopper can talk to animals and humans, so maybe he makes peace with the birds and the humans, so they might possibly help him with his 3 rumble transformation.

monkey D luffy
January 04, 2010, 03:07 AM
ok but i dont want to discuss on things that are happening in the manga as of now but on things that might happen in the future. so the power ups the gang gets from their solo adventures is not what im looking for since it has already been widely discussed in other threads.

ScratchmenApoo
January 04, 2010, 05:24 AM
Like bittman said it sarcastically in here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56030&page=9) Franky could be made out of seastone (or at least his strong right fist) which would allow him to fight DF users with more power. You can probably make that list even bigger by putting Sanji in Seastone-enforced boots, Zoro/Brook having Seastone blades etc.

As for those techniques... Luffy learned how to use Soru incredibly quick (unless he had off-screen practice) so I don't see why other strawhats would have trouble with them.

monkey D luffy
January 04, 2010, 05:59 AM
i like that seastone thing but thats kinda cheating dont you think? also i never said they will have hard time learning it just that they will benefit from learning it

warped1
March 02, 2010, 05:36 PM
chopper could research some rumble balls for the other DF users that could power them up since the rumble balls use the effect wave frequency given off from the DF

THM Nindo
March 02, 2010, 11:02 PM
Here's my take on how some of them could improve:

Luffy = Haki
Zoro = Better swords
Nami = Wind knot (the rope that she got from the weather island)
Chopper = Control over the Monster form
Franky = Uprade to his cybord part (from Vegapunk?)

As for Usopp, Sanji, Robin and Brooke... I'm not too sure...

Chaos Shadow
March 02, 2010, 11:28 PM
mmm...
like everybody is thinking Franky is probably going to "upgrade" himself with all the knowledge he will find in vega´s house and original town.

about chopper i dont know maeby it will be like what chess4 said but i also cant stop thinking about this new concept/ability in zoan users the awakened zoan but i cant link it with chopper yet exept with the relation that those awakened zoans of ID looks like a monster point chopper without the heavy health damage.

i can see sanji powering up with some okama kenpo ( PLEASE DONT STAY AS AN OKAMA SANJI!! )

also nami´s will be getting the knowledge from that weather sky island.

about zoro i dont know obviously that guy in the shadow will probably be an important thing... but i catn see exactly how yet =D

and abour brook! does anybody saw that the kiddnapeer tribe were long arms like scratchmen apoo? and since apoo has musical themed attacks and brook is an musician i can see him getting some new goodies from them

i dont know about ussop or robin heheh

RichardMNixon
March 02, 2010, 11:38 PM
Sanji's shoes need a DF.

I don't think the awakened dudes looked that much like monster point. They were pretty goofy; monster point is way bigger and terrifying.

Usopp: living insect bullets? His slingshot is already named Kabuto.

I don't see how Robin's fighting style could really improve at all. Either she's strong enough to break their neck in a one hit KO or she just trips people. Might be cool to see her dodecahedrual-wield guns or swords though.

Dr. Vegapunk
March 02, 2010, 11:53 PM
Franky being made out of Seastone??? Not likely, perhaps a weapon or specific enhancement. I just think Oda is preparing for far stronger foes in NW that do not always have DFs. Perhaps some elemental Coup de Vent, like a flame based Coup de Vent or Electricity type. Hopefully something crazy that has to do with his usage of Cola, which is something that is signature to Franky. Which is consistent throughout all the SH (Not really sure about Robin or Brook).

Luffy- Haki, or something to do with his Rubber abilites besides Gears.
Zoro- 1 more really good sword, Haki, some newer techniques. He had Asura, perhaps a Deva??(Not really good with Hinduism)
Usopp- Improved Bravery(questionable), Dial Mechanised Sling Shot (No guns, I like Usopp better with a Sling Shot), greater physical strength.
Sanji- Improved kicking techniques and power, Double Diable Jambe, Haki
Nami- The Wind Knot was pretty cool, if used right could actually become pretty powerful.
Chopper- Control of Monster Point or perhaps a new type of Rumble Ball, as of his location...I have no idea how its gonna help him grow.
Robin- ummm...better imagination for use of DF...Remember a DF can be very powerful no matter how obscure, it just depends on the User.
Franky- Already stated above.
Brooke -......better dead jokes..I have no clue about Brooke, we havent seen so much to actually state where he should improve.

DEATHBOTT
March 03, 2010, 12:12 AM
luffy- new gear, control of haki
zorro- swords in the same grade as mihawk's and haki
nami- upgrade weather rod
usopp- sniper rifle or df for kabuto
sanji- bladed shoes or seastone shoes, haki or rokushiki
chopper- become an awakened zoan, more forms for rubble balls
robin- bunch of guns and knives
franky- upgrades to body and weapons
brook- better sword and training from zorro, rokushiki

all of them could use basic training in rokushiki and haki atleast be able to resist powerful haki blasts and not get speedblitzed.

Poneglyph420
March 03, 2010, 12:59 AM
Well it seems like the islands they were all sent to in some cases really will mold their development.. But mostly what ALL the SH needed was simply experience and the ability to be self sufficient.. I hope that the SH come back not just more battle ready..
But smarter, faster, more clever, more informed.. a more potent overall crew..

Luffy: Luffy has just had the best motivation to up his game.. he's felt the cold touch of death take his loved one.... Luffy has to learn to use his Haoushoku Haki and use it to both develop new gears, but also make the ones he has less harmful to his own health..

Zoro: I'm sure Zoro is going to develop Haki and his sword abilities. Still he's got to be with Perona for some plot related reason... either knowledge, or so he won't get lost....

Sanji: I'm almost dying of lack of oxygen from holding my breath hoping Sanji won't become an Okama... Please no!!! But I do hope that he can break his weakness against harming women... I'm sure that he will have strengthened his kicks, and perhaps gotten some tips from some Okama Kenpo.

Nami: It seems clear she's beens sent to Weatheria to learn more about weather manipulation.. Nami also needs to just get stronger and gather more information..

Usopp: Hoping he's gonna burn off some of that fat.. But hoping that Heracles is there to help mold Usopp into a man, and this crazy man eating forest is to make him brave. It would make sense he'd be a brave warrior of the sea before he meets his father again...

Chopper: Seems like Chopper needs to become more self reliant and confident in his own capability. Probably will need to learn to use Monster Point without losing control.

Robin: I don't think Robin really needs more "battle capability" I think what she needs is knowledge. And I think her being saved by the RA is major foreshadowing..

Franky: Well he walked right up to Vegapunk's old Lab it seems..
So it's time for some mod's and maybe some more insight into the technologies the mysterious Vegapunk has invented.. (the lost manuals....)

Brook: Looks like perhaps his music will have an almost magical effect. In his current situation, maybe like the song of the devil.......


I'm sure some members will have haki and others will develop amazing brute strength.. but others might not..

Marche
March 03, 2010, 03:19 AM
Here's my take on how some of them could improve:

Luffy = Haki
Zoro = Better swords
Nami = Wind knot (the rope that she got from the weather island)
Chopper = Control over the Monster form
Franky = Uprade to his cybord part (from Vegapunk?)

As for Usopp, Sanji, Robin and Brooke... I'm not too sure...I think than Robin will improve her knowledges, perhaps in that island there will be a PG.
In the truth I think than She could say to RA where the "anchestral weapon" are located, so Dragon will arrive in the war and so he will say than He possessed it (thanks to the RA and perhaps also to Raiyleigh), and than He will use it if the WG don't accept his condition.
And perhaps Zoro will knew as use his Haki (this only if "to feel the breath of the things" it is an ability of his Haki, and it doesn't became from the fact to be a swordsman).
Also because I think than the isle where he is, is the hometown of Mihawk, and perhaps the men with the mustache than was show in the miniavventures is Mihawk's teacher, but in the truth I think than He will improve only his abilities from swordsman.

And I think than Rufy will don't knew the Haki thanks to this arc (don't with consciously), this arc (AL) He has had the possibility to save Ace, but I think than He will learn the right use of Haki after He will met with his crew, thanks to Hancock (if She will go with Rufy now, or if Rufy will back to AL for thanks her).

Gcat88
March 03, 2010, 09:22 AM
I never noticed the Brook thing. He is in a place where they love music so we will see new things from him. I want them to get together, and go on a new adventure because you know in that adventure everyone will showcase moves!!!

Dice
March 03, 2010, 03:29 PM
Seeing this thread I have this feeling of a deja vu.
One thing I want to point out though. Someone mentioned that it would be cheating using seastone. Well first of all is a devil fruit actually quite the same. An unfair advantage that not everybody can have but things made of seastone are available to everybody (at least in theory).
Furthermore seastone things only work on those people possessing a devil fruit. If by any chance Zoro gets a sword made out of seastone it wouldn't help him against a swordfighter without a fruit so it would still be a fair match (that's just an example).
But the biggest reason against the cheating argument is - in my point of view - that they are pirates and they are fighting to survive. Sure many of the them follow a certain way of honor (especially Zoro) but I don't think that he would put his honor higher than the life of a nakama (remember when he was trying to use the seastone against Enel or when he was willing to throw his dream away for Luffy (since his honor would be at stake if he couldn't protect him)).
I always remember the first fight of Jack Sparrow and Will Turner when Jack uses...well...some tricks and justifies his actions with the simple word "pirate".

THM Nindo
March 04, 2010, 03:14 PM
Another easy way for the Strawhat to power-up, (at least some of them), would be for the Non-devil fruit user to get a DF.

Zoro, Sanji, Nami, Usopp and Franky could all have a huge power-up if they would get a DF.

For example, Nami was shown to be able to control Fire, Ice, Lighting and soon, she will control Wind (with the Wind knot stuff from the weather island)...
So, basically, the only element she won't control will be the Earth...

What if... she get the Quake DF!?!? :blink :tem

Uriel
March 04, 2010, 04:08 PM
I don't think the crew any more Devil's Fruit users. I think that right now has some balance and everyone kinda cover the other weakness. If everyone have a devil's fruit, it would be complicate to sail considering how many times they fall off the ship. >_>

I think the bigger improvement aside than the ones mentioned is the use of Haki for everyone. YES, everyone. Why? They're a small crew, I think that they are also somewhat elite. Haki could raise their game in BIG ways.

Nami is in the way of controlling elements and produce some interesting effects from now on, with Haki that could be amazing and one to fear in the seas. With that knowledge I would say she will raise her bounty up to 50 million to say the least.

Chopper with Haki may be able to control Monster Chopper. That would be ferocious. 70 to 90 million for him (Bounty increase)

Ussop is smart when it comes to fight, he tries to reach the weak point. I think that is his major strength. With Haki He should be able to hit faster, harder and way far away. A truly sniper to get cautious about. With that I would estimate him over 50 million.

Zoro and Sanji are already monster, I can't imagine how much more they will grow (And they need to, particularly Zoro if he wants to defeat Mihawk) but I say their bounties will duplicate or even triplicate. And if their strength is already ridiculous imagine how much will be once they get dominated this ability.
I think Sanji will master it before the rest, as well as Robin.

Franky and Robin really doesn't need to do it, they're already at the top of their abilities. Although a plus of strength and weaponry (Vegapunk should have something interesting in his lab) doesn't sound bad.
Same for Brook, too. I think that their bounties will increase by 150% Maybe more for Franky.

At first I thought this was TOO much, but now that I see Blackbeard crew I think this step is almost mandatory. Yup, even the bounty raise. More considering that the new world is really strong and there is chaos on the seas right now.

SuperShuter
March 22, 2010, 02:57 PM
Luffy - Haki
Zoro - will learn how to cut logias either through haki and seeing as perona has a ghost form which i'm sure reiliegh could have cut
Sanji - kempo
Ussop - may turn him into a warrior I would prefer if he got a rifle like his dad im tired of his weak useless sling shot
Nami - something to do with weather lolers
Chopper - get better in touch with his animal instincts seeing as he's nether socialised with them before and been shunned. On the animal island he might learn how to control his big form
Robin - information being with the revolutionary army although oda needs more creativity with her ability instead of hearing "clutch" and cracking noises all the time
like when he gave her wings lol surely she could just use all body parts connected to make giant self http://view.thespectrum.net/series/gantz-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+24&page=6 yes thats a f***** up example
Franky - Cyborg upgrade possibly though vegapunk seeing as he doesn't sound like he's a bad guy
Brook - don't care he should just meet laboon already he doesnt really bring anything to the strawhats IMO

ScratchmenApoo
March 22, 2010, 03:15 PM
After watching the newest anime episode, I've found that Jimbei's Fishman Karate is extremely badass and strong. If he survives the war, maybe he can teach it to Luffy. If not, then maybe some other merman will be the mentor when the SH are at Merman Island...

Oh, and Usopp getting some kind of rifle won't work, because then he will only be able to shoot lame boring bullets. Right now, Usopp's attacks have a lot of variety (Remember the pre-Sogeking days when he shot eggs and hot pepper and his specialty rubber-band?)

SuperShuter
March 22, 2010, 07:03 PM
After watching the newest anime episode, I've found that Jimbei's Fishman Karate is extremely badass and strong. If he survives the war, maybe he can teach it to Luffy. If not, then maybe some other merman will be the mentor when the SH are at Merman Island...

Oh, and Usopp getting some kind of rifle won't work, because then he will only be able to shoot lame boring bullets. Right now, Usopp's attacks have a lot of variety (Remember the pre-Sogeking days when he shot eggs and hot pepper and his specialty rubber-band?)

Nah rifles are the way forward they are simple and were probably going to see characters like Yassop or other new world pirates either having special types of rifles or doing something like embeding haki into bullets, especially seeing as ussop is on some deadly ass island he's going to turn into a warrior or something. Also you say about shooting egg's hot peppers and fire birds but since when have you seen that have any significant effect on someone strong it doesn't without using dials ussop's weaponry ain't up to it.

Wrath
March 23, 2010, 03:06 PM
How many rifles have we seen that shoot firebirds?

The only character I could ever see eating a DF is Usopp, and even so I wouldn't expect it to happen until the end.

It's also very unlikely that Zoro will get another new sword. As of the moment every one of his swords has emotional significance. Before it was broken, I had predicted that at some point he would replace his third sword, seeing as there was nothing special about it, but that is no longer true. And Zoro doesn't need to rely on a crutch like getting the best sword in the world. Brooke, on the other hand, will probably get one of the highest grade swords at some point.

I think that several members of the crew will learn to use Haki, but I wouldn't necessarily expect them to be beating up Logias with it. For example, I think Nami will quite possibly learn predictive Haki (she already has the ability to predict weather, so it could just extend from that), and nothing else, while Usopp might get the ability to power up his bullets without also learning to block attacks or anything like that.

The only power up Robin needs is a proper fight to showcase her powers. She basically hasn't ever had one. She let a priest beat her up until they were outside the ruin, at which point she owned. And she was a captive for most of Enies Lobby, only getting to remotely own one guy. In Thriller Bark she only ever got to fight alongside other characters, and since then the focus has been entirely on Luffy's exploits.

darkfiend
March 24, 2010, 09:06 PM
Luffy - Haki - New variations on gear 2 & 3

Zoro - He needs a type of haki also, needs to use his Asura abilities in conjunction with his other attacks.

Sanji - Some way to strengthen his legs ( didnt he say at some point he nearly broke one while kicking steel?), Okama Kempo, new basic kicks as well

Ussop - Needs to learn to Haki his shots, if Mihawk's ability to 'zoom' in is learnable that could be useful, he also needs a method of close range fighting lots of enemies - Weak/medium useful devil fruit perhaps?

Franky - needs more than just guns, faster speed perhaps?, more back protection, new moves, more efficiency so he uses less cola.

Nami - Wind knot, improvements to climatact, greater close range abilities - to be able to take more damage so that she can sustain a fight. Perhaps the use of dials.

Chopper - Needs to learn how to use monster form, he could train so that he doesnt have to use the rumble balls yet can still use the forms, gain the 'awakened' Zoan users powers of healing, and maybe he can also apply this to other people (not an all powerful cure all ability, just a minor self heal/ other people's cuts, bruises, broken bones etc.)

Brook - Needs to be able to use his musical abilities to serious effect, he needs to gain new moves, Needs to have more than just a comic role in the manga, needs more strength if anything.

Robin - Needs to be able to use her ability more creatively, to make herself stronger, more eyes so she can see behind etc, if she can create any body part perhaps she could copy one of her bones, or her nail or something along those lines, and cover herself in that so she has a thick skin and can take a sustained battle

skullshuriken734
March 25, 2010, 02:55 AM
Luffy-haki Control and new gear
Zoro-Swords are fine for now but in the dark shadowy location he is in (possibly controlled by a demon) he will learn to amp up his dark aura and demonic blades since he is more demon than human at times (aka imagine haki is 'the force' but the darkside is zoros)
sanji-haki perhaps but more importantly learnin Rokushiki (spellcheck)
Nami- The wind knot tied into her staff and her sense of weather heightened
usopp- beetle bullets would be nice but i could see him to be braver and use more potent and foreign powder and plants to KO enemies
Chopper- mastery of the Monster mode would be nice but perhaps better control and speed of his transformations for now combined with some rokushiki could make him more dangerous and faster
robyn- amping her powers i can only see her making a large group of hands from her one hand to make a giant hand (like sasori from naruto)
Franky- upgrades would be nice or perhaps better knowledge of what items do what to him so he could use those in battle too
brooke- more knowledge n his DF for instance if his spirit could (possibly) leave his body to control another would be awesome (like the german guy from hellboy II)

the crew really doesnt need upgrades too much but more along the lines of amping up (imagine real world bonus multiplier)

bittman
March 25, 2010, 07:45 AM
Thanked you for two things in the post.

This:

How many rifles have we seen that shoot firebirds?
Yes, who cares about puny freaking bits of metal when you're shooting fire, gas, eggs, spikes, shurikens and smoke bombs? If anything, a gun would be 10x worse for the inventive Ussop.

If Ussop gets any sort of upgrade, it should be to his arsenal not his weapon selection. Like being able to shoot canonballs...or lightning...or Luffy?


The only power up Robin needs is a proper fight to showcase her powers. She basically hasn't ever had one. She let a priest beat her up until they were outside the ruin, at which point she owned. And she was a captive for most of Enies Lobby, only getting to remotely own one guy. In Thriller Bark she only ever got to fight alongside other characters, and since then the focus has been entirely on Luffy's exploits.

Thank you. Robin has been often underrated by many, MAINLY because she has not had a showcased fight since Skypeia, in which she never "really" struggled until coming up against Enel. Robin is still one of the few characters in One Piece with a completely overpowered devil fruit, and I fear Oda basically kept her out of the action 9/10 times because she might actually end the battles too quickly. However I think the general level of enemies has caught up to Robin lately (Moria, Kuma, Kizaru, all these new world pirates, etc).

Ussop was suffering a similar syndrome with the break of good battles for him between Alabasta and Thriller Bark (basically 5 islands worth of little action) but then got a nice showcase thanks to Perona. Robin kind of needs an enemy just for her to appear in an upcoming arc just as Ussop basically got Perona tailored for his showcase.

So in short: I see nothing needed to upgrade Robin's powers. She could personally do with a bit of physical upgrades, but it counterbalances her broken power. If anything, we simply need her to be in a "close" battle. Everything she's been in up to now has been one sided one way or the other.

Wrath
March 25, 2010, 04:59 PM
Also, to everyone who suggests Rokushiki: it's not so easy to learn. Luffy copied Soru after seeing it a few times, but he needs the blood doping of Gear 2 to actually be able to use it. That was his loophole to get around all the training you would normally need.

In terms of the actual movement/ki/whatever it needs, I'm sure that Sanji and Zoro would be able to pick them up fairly easily, and maybe even some of the others, but they would also need some sort of loophole, since there's no one to give them the proper training.

Fox666
March 25, 2010, 10:26 PM
Thanked you for two things in the post.

This:

Yes, who cares about puny freaking bits of metal when you're shooting fire, gas, eggs, spikes, shurikens and smoke bombs? If anything, a gun would be 10x worse for the inventive Ussop.

If Ussop gets any sort of upgrade, it should be to his arsenal not his weapon selection. Like being able to shoot canonballs...or lightning...or Luffy?



Thank you. Robin has been often underrated by many, MAINLY because she has not had a showcased fight since Skypeia, in which she never "really" struggled until coming up against Enel. Robin is still one of the few characters in One Piece with a completely overpowered devil fruit, and I fear Oda basically kept her out of the action 9/10 times because she might actually end the battles too quickly. However I think the general level of enemies has caught up to Robin lately (Moria, Kuma, Kizaru, all these new world pirates, etc).

Ussop was suffering a similar syndrome with the break of good battles for him between Alabasta and Thriller Bark (basically 5 islands worth of little action) but then got a nice showcase thanks to Perona. Robin kind of needs an enemy just for her to appear in an upcoming arc just as Ussop basically got Perona tailored for his showcase.

So in short: I see nothing needed to upgrade Robin's powers. She could personally do with a bit of physical upgrades, but it counterbalances her broken power. If anything, we simply need her to be in a "close" battle. Everything she's been in up to now has been one sided one way or the other.I think that Robin power is over Franky. Franky only had more showcase.

Robin made little moves in the series compared to Franky, but they were much more devastating:
- She pulled off both Zoro and Sanji the first time they meet;
- Pell and Tashigi were unable to do anything against her;
- Would break Moria neck if he could not teleport;
- Made PX-4 eat his own laser;
- Etc

The biggest move from Franky was throwing PX-4 away, which is less than Robin did against PX-4 in my opinion.

You don't have moments with Franky owning others like that. In fact, he (along with Brook) looked very scared of Zoro and Ryuuma fight.

OunknownO
March 26, 2010, 12:14 PM
Usopp will learn haki, same like the amazon warriors with their bows and arrows

SuperShuter
April 11, 2010, 08:16 AM
Thanked you for two things in the post.

This:

Yes, who cares about puny freaking bits of metal when you're shooting fire, gas, eggs, spikes, shurikens and smoke bombs? If anything, a gun would be 10x worse for the inventive Ussop.

If Ussop gets any sort of upgrade, it should be to his arsenal not his weapon selection. Like being able to shoot canonballs...or lightning...or Luffy?



Yeah Ben Beckman for a bit had kiziru surrender when he pointed his Gun at him. Yeh puny freaking bits of metal really can't do anything. Thinking back the only thing his firebird has ever done is burn down a flag and taken out fodder it can't even stratch the stronger characters. Yeh you go on about fire gass and eggs but seroiusly do you think thats going to be effective in the neworld.

I like the idea of ussop using guerrilla warfare I agree that tricks and traps are part of his personallity I was just stating the strongest sharp shooters seem to use rifles and such. Just ive got tired of his gun powder, shurikens would be effective but yeah after being on that island it would be cool if he was know some sort of Ninja, hes sort of in a dangerous rain forest kind of reminds me of a vietcong

OunknownO
April 11, 2010, 12:42 PM
Luffy - will learn Haki
Zoro - haki and how to cut logia
Sanji - will learn kenpo and then fuse his previous style with it
Ussop - will learn how to fuse haki with his shoots and this is highly unlikley but kabuto may eat df(I hope so)
Nami - will get those knots and couple of things more(don't know which)... She will be able to control wind and over time ussop will enhance them
Chopper - will learn how to control his awakend form
Robin - won't learn anything
Franky - will use the leftover parts in Vegapunk labaratory and enhance himself
Brook - will learn the style that Scratchmen Apoo uses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm7EoRHrcqA&feature=PlayList&p=414A94E3A2B3BFA3&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9)

chess4
April 11, 2010, 01:53 PM
Luffy - will learn Haki
Zoro - haki and how to cut logia
Sanji - will learn kenpo and then fuse his previous style with it
Ussop - will learn how to fuse haki with his shoots and this is highly unlikley but kabuto may eat df(I hope so)
Nami - will get those knots and couple of things more(don't know which)... She will be able to control wind and over time ussop will enhance them
Chopper - will learn how to control his awakend form
Robin - won't learn anything
Franky - will use the leftover parts in Vegapunk labaratory and enhance himself
Brook - will learn the style that Scratchmen Apoo uses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm7EoRHrcqA&feature=PlayList&p=414A94E3A2B3BFA3&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9)

i agree.....robin really cant strengthing her abilites, i think she will use them in more creative ways though. she is the information gatherer of the strawhats and i think that will be her "upgrade" so to speak

i think chopper wil begin to learn how to control his monster point form and will be able to use it in stretches at first until he masters it.

zoro, sanji, and ussop like you said will all learn some form of haki control. i think zoro has the ability to hear "the breath of all things" like he did against mr 1 and he will learn to use that better.

i am most looking forward to my main man usopp though. i hope he gets the bettle uniform 2

Wrath
April 11, 2010, 01:55 PM
Yeah Ben Beckman for a bit had kiziru surrender when he pointed his Gun at him. Yeh puny freaking bits of metal really can't do anything. Thinking back the only thing his firebird has ever done is burn down a flag and taken out fodder it can't even stratch the stronger characters. Yeh you go on about fire gass and eggs but seroiusly do you think thats going to be effective in the neworld.

I like the idea of ussop using guerrilla warfare I agree that tricks and traps are part of his personallity I was just stating the strongest sharp shooters seem to use rifles and such. Just ive got tired of his gun powder, shurikens would be effective but yeah after being on that island it would be cool if he was know some sort of Ninja, hes sort of in a dangerous rain forest kind of reminds me of a vietcong
Oh please, at the level of Kizaru and Beckman the difference between a gun and a slingshot approaches zero. It's Beckman's power and skill that are imposing, not the fact that he's using a gun.

gao_dargon
April 11, 2010, 02:16 PM
i personaly don't like Ussop that much, he is a burden im the moust, but he is a strawhat non the less, and well, i preaty much like everything in One Piece, so my point is, he is going to be "lame" in tersm of power for ever, thats HIS role on the crew, the lame scardy member that can overcome that in times of need, a powerup wont change his character, that would be wrong, he is a stablished character, and Oda is to good at what he does to go around and change charactes mid story, thatn include his pachinco, he is going to be the best sharpshooter with his wird bizzare home-made wepon, thats the point, if not he is only Yassop 2.0, but i have to say, that getting a rifle dose not mean he wont shoot funny things, he is an inventor, who said he can't make hollow bullets that have things inside, like fire, tunder, gas, etc, but even with that possibility, im still sure we wont get a gun

kebuenowilly
April 15, 2010, 05:37 AM
mmm...
Ussop takes his strenght from objects (even from Sogeking mask) so he will get a weapon upgrade, so here's my guess:
Kabuto will "eat" a Zoan DF! Just like Frunkfreed
I bet for that animal: kabutomushi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_rhinoceros_beetle)
Just imagine Ussop riding it an shoting through his horn!

kangclaw
April 17, 2010, 12:41 PM
Strawhat Crew Level Up: everyone needs to level up in their own way.

Luffy:-

1) General level up of his physical stats. This has been happening through out the manga, he has been slowly levelling up. He needs an even bigger physical level up than he had so far: to be stronger, faster etc...

2) Possible DF level up, don't know what, or how it will happen. Could meeting Vegapunk help? Luffy is a contact type of fighter: I think all or nearly all of his techniques are contact based. He doesn't have any moves like Rankyaku: one of the of the CP9 techniques. He doesn't need to copy the CP9, but, it would look good if he had a technique that is other than physical punches or kicks.

3) Learn Haki, not master it. The reason I think this is because, Haki seem like an Ultimate Power type; I mean, remember Rayleigh did to the Slave Collar? Unless Haki is weaker and more limited than I think.



Zorro:-

1) Similar to Luffy in the sense that: General level up of his physical stats. This will allow him an even stronger base for his sword techniques.

2) Learn how to make even more powerful moves like his Onigiri, Dragon, Asura (Nine headed demon aura thing?). Learn about spirit and aura etc... not Haki other 'ways' giving manifestation to will power, spirit; like he has already done with dragon and asura etc...

3) Learn more about that 'Breathing' thing.


Sanji:-

1) Similar to Luffy and Zorro, in the sense that: General level up of his physical stats. This will allow him to use even more deadly kicks.


2) I think meeting Ivankov will help in his level up. Ivankov with his hormones will help him train. Like Luffy and Zorro; Sanji's techniques are based on his physical abilities.

3) Or, he will meet and learn Fishmen Karate and the techniques that Jimbei uses like e.g. shock wave. I think Sanji may incorporate the principles of those techniques into his kicks also more about how to fight in water.

4)) He might develop more chi type kicks?


That is so far the monster trio. The rest of the crew members will also have Physical level up but not to the extent as Monster Trio. Their Level up will be unique in their own way.


Robin:-

1) Robin is a very highly trained killer already she will a general upgrade of her DF ability. Difficult to guess about her.

2) Someone already wrote that she will know about the RA. She will something about Poneglyphs.


Franky:-

Is the Vegapunk of the Strawhat crew.Franky will acquire knowledge that will allow him to develop more powerful technology, weapons, upgrade his own body, and the Thousand Sunny's technology.


Nami:-

1) Learn more about the weather control. She will get a better way of fighting with her Weather tactics and Climatact.

Chopper:-
He will learn something that will allow him to fight more better than when he takes those pills. He will have a better use of his DF abilities.

Usopp:-
He is already proficient at shooting. Some said that he may gain a weapon with a DF? That sounds interesting. He will also learn more about varieties of shooting things?

Brook:-
Like everyone said he will definitely upgrade his techniques with music and such.

This all just a guess anyway. I hope Oda give us a really good surprise when they return.

Uriel
April 18, 2010, 12:52 PM
mmm...
Ussop takes his strenght from objects (even from Sogeking mask) so he will get a weapon upgrade, so here's my guess:
Kabuto will "eat" a Zoan DF! Just like Frunkfreed
I bet for that animal: kabutomushi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_rhinoceros_beetle)
Just imagine Ussop riding it an shoting through his horn!
You know, I like the idea of that animal being his next "theme" BUT I disagree about the DF. Why? Usopp needs to not have a DF. It would be a false excuse for his character to overcome his fears, He needs to do that before getting a DF.

I think it would be more coherent and a great way to have fun to induce it in an object that He uses.

OPWillOfTheD
May 07, 2010, 12:51 PM
On some of the new ways SH should power up.

Luffy - Learn to use his King's Haki from AL from Hancock or somebody else. He should also Enhance new Gears using his Gomu Gomu fruit.

Zoro - He should learn how to use Haki to enhance his swords. Like how Reyleigh and Shanks stopped the Logia's power to become solid.

Sanji - He should learn to use Okama Kenpo from the island he is at now and fuse it with his own and make his own fighting style.

Usopp - He should overcome some of his fears and be more like a man for the NW. Its not going be a joke and he should learn to fuse his Haki with His Bullets. Maybe start using Rifles, and handguns although that would take away the creative fighting style he has.

Robin - I have no idea how she is going to improve from where she is at now.

Brook - Learn how to use musical fighting techniques like how one of the rookies did. i cant recall his name. He should also find a new sword and improve his sword techniques.

Franky - He will probably get a big upgrade of technology from the island Vegapunk was in.

Chopper - Learn to control Monster form somehow.

Nami - Shell probably learn to use the wind knot in a more efficient way and learn to do other things like how the old man created a barrier around him in order to walk during the storm in the island she is at.

If you think about it BB's crew is much superior to the SH as of right now. The SH needs some major power up to do b4 he faces BB or the WG.

chess4
May 13, 2010, 04:35 PM
On some of the new ways SH should power up.

Luffy - Learn to use his King's Haki from AL from Hancock or somebody else. He should also Enhance new Gears using his Gomu Gomu fruit.

Zoro - He should learn how to use Haki to enhance his swords. Like how Reyleigh and Shanks stopped the Logia's power to become solid.

Sanji - He should learn to use Okama Kenpo from the island he is at now and fuse it with his own and make his own fighting style.

Usopp - He should overcome some of his fears and be more like a man for the NW. Its not going be a joke and he should learn to fuse his Haki with His Bullets. Maybe start using Rifles, and handguns although that would take away the creative fighting style he has.

Robin - I have no idea how she is going to improve from where she is at now.

Brook - Learn how to use musical fighting techniques like how one of the rookies did. i cant recall his name. He should also find a new sword and improve his sword techniques.

Franky - He will probably get a big upgrade of technology from the island Vegapunk was in.

Chopper - Learn to control Monster form somehow.

Nami - Shell probably learn to use the wind knot in a more efficient way and learn to do other things like how the old man created a barrier around him in order to walk during the storm in the island she is at.

If you think about it BB's crew is much superior to the SH as of right now. The SH needs some major power up to do b4 he faces BB or the WG.

i agree with everything except for zoro and robin. i think zoro will learn to hear the breath of all things like he did against mr 1, and he will be able to tap into it at will.

robin, i think her power up will be knowledge. i think she will gain some info on raftel, the will of d, the location of the next poneglyph. or something. also chopper may learn to control monster point a bit, not totally yet

outside of my few points i agree 100%, and it

johnnyb7
May 17, 2010, 03:46 PM
I was hoping that Usopp would travel to Elbaf to learn to become a great warrior lol. They'll all be much more powerful but it won't be anything like a new gear or anything like that.
Luffy will be able to use haki, and i'm guessing zoro and sanji will start to learn it too
Franky will have some awesome upgrades
Nami will use weather better
The rest will simply be more powerful
Maybe sanji can run on water like brooke now, lol

Junior
May 20, 2010, 09:36 AM
It'd be nice if Brook "studied" under Zoro while traveling.

Or, hey, he could get his skeletal structure infused with Adamantium. :T

topkomputer
May 20, 2010, 10:08 AM
I personally suggest that the title becoming "new ways for strawhats to reunite". I think oda never show us how they becoming stronger, they just did, like zoro said "they become stronger after traveling from one island to another".

THM Nindo
May 21, 2010, 09:54 AM
Well, I guess it was already brought up, but I think that they are all powering-up right now.

They were all sent to a certain place by Kumos, and they seem like they were sent to a place that could help them grow.

I'm not sure about all of them, but I can already think of:

1) Nami
Sent to the Weather Country, learning to use the Wind Knot.

2) Franky
Send to the old country where Vegapunk, the cyborg creator, has a lab

3) Sanji
Send to the Kama land, where he could learn Kama Tempo

4) Ussop
Send to the jungle, where he could hopefully learn not to be a coward (or to use insect as projectile?)

For the other members it's unclear how they would grow from where they are, but I'm sure that they will :

5) Zoro
Send to the Haunted place where Perona is

6) Chopper
Send to a cold winter place (will he meet Santa?! :tem)

7) Robin
Send on the bridge

8)
Send into a satanist clan

Deo_df
June 10, 2010, 10:22 PM
I really just want to see the return of nightmare Luffy. That guy was hella powerful. I know some things are just a once off and others are foreshadowing. But if you could combine the monster trio wouldnt that result in nightmare luffy. But as they dont have Moria as part of their crew, they dont have that ability. However if (and its a big if) Perona joins, she has the ability to manipulate spirits, she can send her spirit out of her body, maybe with consent she can send others out as well. And it was eluded to in the Arlong arc that Luffy is the sum total of his crew as he cant cook or navigate or use a sword or lie. So Luffy would get stronger as his crew does!

As for Zoro, that is easy, Kendo has the concept of Ki-Ken-Tai-ichi, which basically is your spirit, your technique and your physical power all as one. Zoro uses three swords left hand is power (physical body), right hand is accuracy (technique) and you express your ki with your mouth (which is haki in the One Piece world). Zoro needs to combine the three together as over time he has been training all three seperately. Also I know Oda answered a questions as to why Zoro can talk with his sword in his mouth and he said it was because of his spirit/heart and everyone thought it was a joke answer... I can just see Zoro combining his 3 swords to make 1 huge one, anyone else notice the size of the swords of all the great swordsmen? It would kind of be the opposite of Asura. Speaking of Asura thats a hindu thing, the 3 main hindu gods are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva ie creation, existance and destruction. If Oda continues in the hindu theme hopefully he will upgrade Zoro from Asura (which is like a demon) to Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, ie create a big sword, destroy the bad guy and continue on as if nothing happened.

As for the rest I dont really care or its obvious. But I truly want Ussop to come back with inhuman strength, so he can finally wield that 10ton hammer. It would also be great if he could harness that running away power and turn it into offensive speed. In terms of Haki he has to have the one that predicts enemy movements, how else can he always just hit the target and it be a surprise to him, it seems like a latent talent that he doesnt know about, the same goes with Luffy and his ability to have people like him instantly.

There has always been a rivalry between Sanji and Zoro and they have always been shown to be kinda equal but I just cant see Sanji keeping up with Zoro anymore, Zoro is rapidly becomming a monster, well moreso.

Captain-Awesome
June 14, 2010, 03:09 PM
Luffy: Haki and maybe combine fishman karate with his rubber abilities
Zoro: I think his haki is some sort of 6 sense and he can cut logia
Sanji: Kenpo and maybe also some sort of haki?

I think this could really help them later on in the new world

mlinko
June 14, 2010, 03:49 PM
Usopp will become stronger a he will have a lot more stamina(last episode)

hibar90
June 14, 2010, 06:28 PM
It really depend on what the character need.

Luffy - his need is probably the most demanding. He wanted to protect those he cares. So, he need a huge power up like haki to fight all the logia power house.

Zoro - his goal is to be the strongest swordsman. So, he probably learn the breathing technique and ultimately learn how to cut diamond or somewhere at that point. But, at the short time he will need to learn to cut steel. If he's going to counter logia users, he will need haki. Cutting them is not enough, it has to hurt them. Then maybe better katana (like top 3 katanas)

Sanji - Really, he's a chef. A damn strong one though. He always fight the martial artist type and I can't imagine a martial artist logia users (pretty small imagination I have). He needs to develop that endurance and strength so his land could withstand kicking something like steel and even breaking it. In other word more muscle (don't need to be visible), stronger bones and new technique.

Usop - More arsenal and tools. And maybe an upgrade weapon to something more rapid. Maybe then he can switch from single, burst and automatic.

Nami - well, she probably need newer and more powerful attack. Better knowledge of weather etc.

Robi - shigan gattling!!!! Her ability is powerful already. But stronger enemies are emerging. No harm if she learns a few things.

Franky - it would be awesome if he become wing zero lol. Or at least iron man. He need a speed upgrade I think. Maybe a jet pack or something.

Chopper - he needs the ability to heal as a healer during strawhat squad raid against uber boss fight. I like the way he analyze weakness and always enjoy his fight. So, more confidence and less reliance on monster point. Or he could make it less harmful to his body. I really feel sorry for the little guy.

Brooke - maybe he will learn appo like technique. Cutting through with his sword and melody.

Dasbones
June 14, 2010, 07:43 PM
From what I saw in the Zoro cover story, I think he is at the island where Mihawk was from, I'm just making that estimation from the very large cross, and the macabre style that similar to Mihawk. Also if I remember correctly, there was a shadowy figure the looked like he was carrying a sword, so maybe Zoro may train under Mihawk's old master (pure speculation of course).

Fox666
June 14, 2010, 10:46 PM
Well, there is an cliché of an master training a new pupil to defeat his old pupil that betrayed him...

But that seems to reduce the significance of Zoro dream of becoming the great swordman. I would prefer if it was some sort of story like that man being the second or third strongest swordman that loose to Mihawk and now will train Zoro...

Deo_df
June 15, 2010, 02:42 AM
Well if you look really closely on that last cover page with Zoro, there are dozens of swords stuck in the ground everywhere. I really don't think this guy is too friendly, though I can see him enabling Zoro to get stronger without actually training him. He is probably that little bit stronger than Zoro just like Mr 1 was. He may also be weak with a really strong move that Zoro can copy. I don't think Zoro will learn to cut diamond until he goes up against Whitebeard division 3 captain. I honestly can only see Zoro powerup through Ki-Ken-Tai-Ichi, ie combing his strength in using 3 swords seperately to use them as one.

DARK
June 15, 2010, 06:18 AM
Zoro- Training his sword to cut through ghosts, possible Haki training (if Asura is Haki).
Nami- Learning more about the weather from Haredas, using more weather tools in battle (i.e. Wind Knot).
Usopp- Don't know about this one, because at this point on, the only thing I expect him to do is to stuff his face.
Sanji- Possibly Okama Kenpo.
Chopper- Running away from giant birds and cavemen all the time... Well, I think at the end of this trial, he might get some speed training.
Robin- No opportunies for her to power up, since she's almost leaving Tequila Wolf anyway.
Franky- Using Vegapunk's old blueprints to reconstruct himself.
Brooke- Getting more women's panties. ;)

bruticus171
June 25, 2010, 04:30 PM
(this is really off topic)

Okay so we know there is a reason that each straw hat was sent to different islands but what are the real reasons? and will Oda tell us?

From my view Point These are the reasons for each SH

Luffy: learn haki and accept failure
Zoro: become faster and able to rely on others and not lone wolf it
Nami: Understand weather better???
Robin: Able to trust people??
Franky: New body and will not need cola any more
Sanji: Become a cooky queer??? (i hope not)
Chopper: Be brave
Usuopp: get muscles and be more courageous
Brooke: Able to be a lone wolf fighter???

redzrae
June 25, 2010, 05:08 PM
(this is really off topic)

Okay so we know there is a reason that each straw hat was sent to different islands but what are the real reasons? and will Oda tell us?

From my view Point These are the reasons for each SH

Luffy: learn haki and accept failure
Zoro: become faster and able to rely on others and not lone wolf it
Nami: Understand weather better???
Robin: Able to trust people??
Franky: New body and will not need cola any more
Sanji: Become a cooky queer??? (i hope not)
Chopper: Be brave
Usuopp: get muscles and be more courageous
Brooke: Able to be a lone wolf fighter???

I like your idea, don't you think it is better if all of them had hakki??
I mean, look, almost all the supernovas are devil fruit users, most of them are logias, if there will be a chance that the remaining 9 supernovas will fight SH then they will need Haki to defeat them right?
Look at Silvers Rayleigh, he is not the captain but still he has Hakki.. Like the women in amazon lily, almost all of them have hakki...

this is my point of view during the training of the SH's
Zoro: become faster, improve its agility and stamina, he will learn how to deflect laser...

Nami: Improve its Perfect-Clima tact or even she will learn how to use his forecasting/ summoning weather skills during battle or in times of need with the use of other equipments in Weatheria...

Usopp: He will become brave, muscular body, and because of this he will have a great long range improvement and force. He will able to fight melee range...

Sanji: he will be able to teleport at any places on short distance, he will have a great agility improvement and will learn the newkama kempo technique in which he will make his opponents to become queers...

Chopper: he will become brave, he will become more matured, he will discovered new medicinal plants that can be use and most of all, he can practice to control his MONSTER POINT because of large plain on that place...

Robin: she will learn believing not just her crew but all the persons that close to her. She will learn how to improve his powers like multiplying both of her hands and feet, or can multiply his whole body (i doubt it will happen ^_^).

Franky: he will modify his self to improve some of his abilities. Able to create Lasers, able to withstand hard blows and lessen the needs of cola in his body.

Brook: he will learn to not rely on others. He will learn how to use his lightweight during battles, and improve his musical skills in battles. He can also have the different equipments on that land of poverty, just like we had saw during the anime... ^_^

elitefox
July 05, 2010, 04:34 AM
Zoro- Sword training as the most of us assume. As far as anime goes, he will become fast as fast as fighting 10 at a time with full body lol. I think he will have sharingan or byakugan at the end of the training, just to exaggerate he will have no blind spot :D

Nami- as far as I see it, nami will have more weapons or at least two, not ordinary but weather based weapons

Chopper- animal instinct, we all know that he is raise by a human. animal training might enable him to be more ferocious and able to access his hidden potential(giant tanuki form)

Sanji- i agree to most. okama kenpo. so that he can hit girls. I do not nothing against women but it hurts them if you don't fight them seriously.

Robin- I think she will power up in RA, an enemy of an enemy is a friend :D

Franky- this is interesting. for me he really has no fighting skills but rely on the power of his body so I'll go with the others. He will upgrade himself. I think it will still be cola based with some twist diet cola, just kidding. but who knows.

Brooke- This is what I have been talking about lately. I think this training will make him a true musician. As I see the anime, I think he will invent songs that will make people stronger/braver/calm/tougher/anything that can power up a human body through songs. I know that it might be lame to you but he might be good at support more than a battle, though he can still battle.

For usopp, I can't think of anything lol. he is an inventor at his own level, the island must have something that usopp can use for a new weapon. Usop might get taller and bigger lol and fast :D
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mmm...
Ussop takes his strenght from objects (even from Sogeking mask) so he will get a weapon upgrade, so here's my guess:
Kabuto will "eat" a Zoan DF! Just like Frunkfreed
I bet for that animal: kabutomushi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_rhinoceros_beetle)
Just imagine Ussop riding it an shoting through his horn!

Good grief, maybe herculesan or whoever he is, is actually a weapon in disguise lol
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After watching the newest anime episode, I've found that Jimbei's Fishman Karate is extremely badass and strong. If he survives the war, maybe he can teach it to Luffy. If not, then maybe some other merman will be the mentor when the SH are at Merman Island...

Oh, and Usopp getting some kind of rifle won't work, because then he will only be able to shoot lame boring bullets. Right now, Usopp's attacks have a lot of variety (Remember the pre-Sogeking days when he shot eggs and hot pepper and his specialty rubber-band?)

Gomu gomu karate :o

haha that would be funny and awesome, though he has no power of the sea like jinbei but maybe the gomu gomu fruit will be the deciding point

RezzieThaRapper
July 07, 2010, 12:52 AM
SANJI POWER-UP IDEA========================================================

Here is an idea that hasn't been stated for Sanji...

Okay, lets say he learns the basics of Okama Kempo...

Bon-Chan had the types of kicks where his leg almost looked like a whip, like it just went limp and he thrust it and delivers devastating kicks...

Now if we give the limp leg style concept to Sanji, in theory he could take away heat friction from his body, but he could still gain STATIC friction...

So if the Diable Jambei is "Hot & Sweet" and can burn enemies and add more blunt impact to his kicks... Then in theory this "Lightning Leg" could be "Cold & Sour" and could NUMB enemies and add more penetration to his kicks...

This lightning leg could put him on par with any fishmen, maybe even Jinbei (for people who want him to join the crew) and would help on fishmen island...

He could use Diable Jambei on one leg and the "Lightning Leg" on the other and dominate a fight from top to bottom... Imagine a spinning corkscrew spinning top drill kick combined with fire and electricity, Luffy would have trouble standing after that (meh, probably not)
============================================================

LUFFY POWER-UP IDEA=============================================================

While reading another thread I saw someone with the "Vulcanization Idea" but not really any details mixed in with it...

Vulcanization gives the opportunity for two new gears, a 4th and a 5th - Offensive Vulcan & Defensive Vulcan

Because of the heat needed, it would be extremely painful for Luffy each time to activate it (since all gears have weaknesses, this seems appropriate for the "Hax" it grants --This weakness 1)...

Here is an idea of how Luffy can activate it alone, since I'm sure the extra material needed won't necessarily be at his disposal... Luffy could twist both his arms, as if he were about to do a twin Rifle and then once they're at the limit Luffy can then twist both of the already twisted arms together like twizzlers... He then slams them into the ground like a drill, and releases the intense spinning effect which in turn generate enough friction to melt the rocks and (not really possible, but just humor me) gives luffy the needed ingredients to Vulcanize himself, the heat from the friction effects his arms... With the molten ingredients on arm he could wrap his arms around his body and vulcanize him self from the neck down... Of course this is the most painful part, but it fills in any wounds with rubber and essentially heals him...

At this point two options present themselves, De-Vulcanization or True Vulcanization...


GEAR 4th De-Vulcanization
De-Vulcanization would be for offense as it would make him similar to "Mr. Fantastic or PlasticMan" with the shape changing ability and the ability to control the density of your punches to a certain degree... Fire would just amplify this abilities range, and this form dissipates all friction at the joints and makes Luffy as versatile as a Logia user (Though swords and sharp objects are an all time high danger to Luffy in this form)


GEAR 5th True Vulcanization
True Vulcanization would be for defense, but in my opinion this is better then the other because though it would severely limit how far he can stretch to just a little further than a normal human punch. He gains the ability to bounce as well as Bellamy, have his own version of Tekkai Kempo, Invulnerability that extends to sharp weapons, and normal sized punches with the strength of gear 3rd (Fire is still a weakness in this form, even more so than the other)


GEAR 6th??? Balloons & Fishmen Karate
Another form I thought of, is Luffy using the regular balloon form to fight on water using some skills of Jinbei to teach him how to use the water against them

Imagine Luffy spinning rapidly and punching and kicking creating a whirlpool and sinking an entire fleet of ships (Gomu Gomu No Surface Mizu Hanabi, lol)
=============================================================I've got idea's on the others, but I'm tired of typing, I'll get on that later=========

mr.danly
July 07, 2010, 01:56 AM
SANJI POWER-UP IDEA========================================================

Here is an idea that hasn't been stated for Sanji...

Okay, lets say he learns the basics of Okama Kempo...

Bon-Chan had the types of kicks where his leg almost looked like a whip, like it just went limp and he thrust it and delivers devastating kicks...

Now if we give the limp leg style concept to Sanji, in theory he could take away heat friction from his body, but he could still gain STATIC friction...

So if the Diable Jambei is "Hot & Sweet" and can burn enemies and add more blunt impact to his kicks... Then in theory this "Lightning Leg" could be "Cold & Sour" and could NUMB enemies and add more penetration to his kicks...

This lightning leg could put him on par with any fishmen, maybe even Jinbei (for people who want him to join the crew) and would help on fishmen island...

He could use Diable Jambei on one leg and the "Lightning Leg" on the other and dominate a fight from top to bottom... Imagine a spinning corkscrew spinning top drill kick combined with fire and electricity, Luffy would have trouble standing after that (meh, probably not)
============================================================

LUFFY POWER-UP IDEA=============================================================

While reading another thread I saw someone with the "Vulcanization Idea" but not really any details mixed in with it...

Vulcanization gives the opportunity for two new gears, a 4th and a 5th - Offensive Vulcan & Defensive Vulcan

Because of the heat needed, it would be extremely painful for Luffy each time to activate it (since all gears have weaknesses, this seems appropriate for the "Hax" it grants --This weakness 1)...

Here is an idea of how Luffy can activate it alone, since I'm sure the extra material needed won't necessarily be at his disposal... Luffy could twist both his arms, as if he were about to do a twin Rifle and then once they're at the limit Luffy can then twist both of the already twisted arms together like twizzlers... He then slams them into the ground like a drill, and releases the intense spinning effect which in turn generate enough friction to melt the rocks and (not really possible, but just humor me) gives luffy the needed ingredients to Vulcanize himself, the heat from the friction effects his arms... With the molten ingredients on arm he could wrap his arms around his body and vulcanize him self from the neck down... Of course this is the most painful part, but it fills in any wounds with rubber and essentially heals him...

At this point two options present themselves, De-Vulcanization or True Vulcanization...


GEAR 4th De-Vulcanization
De-Vulcanization would be for offense as it would make him similar to "Mr. Fantastic or PlasticMan" with the shape changing ability and the ability to control the density of your punches to a certain degree... Fire would just amplify this abilities range, and this form dissipates all friction at the joints and makes Luffy as versatile as a Logia user (Though swords and sharp objects are an all time high danger to Luffy in this form)


GEAR 5th True Vulcanization
True Vulcanization would be for defense, but in my opinion this is better then the other because though it would severely limit how far he can stretch to just a little further than a normal human punch. He gains the ability to bounce as well as Bellamy, have his own version of Tekkai Kempo, Invulnerability that extends to sharp weapons, and normal sized punches with the strength of gear 3rd (Fire is still a weakness in this form, even more so than the other)


GEAR 6th??? Balloons & Fishmen Karate
Another form I thought of, is Luffy using the regular balloon form to fight on water using some skills of Jinbei to teach him how to use the water against them

Imagine Luffy spinning rapidly and punching and kicking creating a whirlpool and sinking an entire fleet of ships (Gomu Gomu No Surface Mizu Hanabi, lol)
=============================================================I've got idea's on the others, but I'm tired of typing, I'll get on that later=========


Certainly interesting theories... the Sanji one might work (although I don't think that it'd be possible to generate enough electricity to actually do any damage, but oda doesn't exactly follow the laws of physics in his manga), but I'm slightly hesitant about your Luffy theories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but vulcanization is the process of transforming rubber into a harder, more durable material, right? Well how would that help Luffy? Sure, it'd make his body harder, but his bone structure is dense enough to deflect bullets when he uses gear 3rd, and punch through steel, bricks, cement, or practically any other object in existence.

RezzieThaRapper
July 07, 2010, 05:29 AM
Certainly interesting theories... the Sanji one might work (although I don't think that it'd be possible to generate enough electricity to actually do any damage, but oda doesn't exactly follow the laws of physics in his manga), but I'm slightly hesitant about your Luffy theories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but vulcanization is the process of transforming rubber into a harder, more durable material, right? Well how would that help Luffy? Sure, it'd make his body harder, but his bone structure is dense enough to deflect bullets when he uses gear 3rd, and punch through steel, bricks, cement, or practically any other object in existence.

thanx...

I added the de-vulcanization to make up for the weaknesses of vulcanization...

True vulcanization wouldn't be as limiting as Gear 3rd though, it would have the density (though he can't stretch nearly as far, he can keep at least his base speed, something that 3rd takes from... If he can go between the hardness of a tire and the hardness of a bowling ball with out much effort he can bounce around an enemy to make up for loss of elasticity and allow him to be a better close range fighter (not that he isn't already) Just enough to improve himself before the harder battles down the road
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SANJI POWER-UP IDEA========================================================

Here is an idea that hasn't been stated for Sanji...

Okay, lets say he learns the basics of Okama Kempo...

Bon-Chan had the types of kicks where his leg almost looked like a whip, like it just went limp and he thrust it and delivers devastating kicks...

Now if we give the limp leg style concept to Sanji, in theory he could take away heat friction from his body, but he could still gain STATIC friction...

So if the Diable Jambei is "Hot & Sweet" and can burn enemies and add more blunt impact to his kicks... Then in theory this "Lightning Leg" could be "Cold & Sour" and could NUMB enemies and add more penetration to his kicks...

This lightning leg could put him on par with any fishmen, maybe even Jinbei (for people who want him to join the crew) and would help on fishmen island...

He could use Diable Jambei on one leg and the "Lightning Leg" on the other and dominate a fight from top to bottom... Imagine a spinning corkscrew spinning top drill kick combined with fire and electricity, Luffy would have trouble standing after that (meh, probably not)
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LUFFY POWER-UP IDEA=============================================================

While reading another thread I saw someone with the "Vulcanization Idea" but not really any details mixed in with it...

Vulcanization gives the opportunity for two new gears, a 4th and a 5th - Offensive Vulcan & Defensive Vulcan

Because of the heat needed, it would be extremely painful for Luffy each time to activate it (since all gears have weaknesses, this seems appropriate for the "Hax" it grants --This weakness 1)...

Here is an idea of how Luffy can activate it alone, since I'm sure the extra material needed won't necessarily be at his disposal... Luffy could twist both his arms, as if he were about to do a twin Rifle and then once they're at the limit Luffy can then twist both of the already twisted arms together like twizzlers... He then slams them into the ground like a drill, and releases the intense spinning effect which in turn generate enough friction to melt the rocks and (not really possible, but just humor me) gives luffy the needed ingredients to Vulcanize himself, the heat from the friction effects his arms... With the molten ingredients on arm he could wrap his arms around his body and vulcanize him self from the neck down... Of course this is the most painful part, but it fills in any wounds with rubber and essentially heals him...

At this point two options present themselves, De-Vulcanization or True Vulcanization...


GEAR 4th De-Vulcanization
De-Vulcanization would be for offense as it would make him similar to "Mr. Fantastic or PlasticMan" with the shape changing ability and the ability to control the density of your punches to a certain degree... Fire would just amplify this abilities range, and this form dissipates all friction at the joints and makes Luffy as versatile as a Logia user (Though swords and sharp objects are an all time high danger to Luffy in this form)


GEAR 5th True Vulcanization
True Vulcanization would be for defense, but in my opinion this is better then the other because though it would severely limit how far he can stretch to just a little further than a normal human punch. He gains the ability to bounce as well as Bellamy, have his own version of Tekkai Kempo, Invulnerability that extends to sharp weapons, and normal sized punches with the strength of gear 3rd (Fire is still a weakness in this form, even more so than the other)


GEAR 6th??? Balloons & Fishmen Karate
Another form I thought of, is Luffy using the regular balloon form to fight on water using some skills of Jinbei to teach him how to use the water against them

Imagine Luffy spinning rapidly and punching and kicking creating a whirlpool and sinking an entire fleet of ships (Gomu Gomu No Surface Mizu Hanabi, lol)
=============================================================I've got idea's on the others, but I'm tired of typing, I'll get on that later=========

FRANKY-- Get some defensive up grades for pete's sake, and then add to offense...

NAMI-- Maybe she'll get more than the wind know, She is on an island that studies weather...

ROBIN-- Nothing except for the ability to grab Logia's, Haki?? Maybe... Oda may come up with another way

CHOPPER-- Control of Monster Point, Maybe play around with some different forms, Intergrate medical skills into fighting???

BROOK-- A wise person spoke earlier and I will reiterate what they said, turn him into a support fighter...

USSOPP-- Kabuto eats a devil fruit, I agree with anyone who already said that, I like the idea of him being able to snipe from the sky with a flying beetle. He could learn to lie better. He could get some seastone arsenal and use Kabuto in it's regular form to shoot it. Kuja Haki to empower his arsenal

ZORO-- I agree with everything that's already been said in this forum except the Devil Fruits
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alias85
July 07, 2010, 08:47 PM
All Luffy has to do is master his Kings haki. Once he does that all he needs to do is inflate himself as much as he can and "yell" at his opponents - it could pretty much take out anyone.

Sanji, Usopp - devil fruit, haki

Rest of the straw hat crew - haki

tehgrim
July 07, 2010, 09:18 PM
after reading the latest chaper, im going to guess. That he wont become a better sniper (aiming/more strategic) but a stronger one. Right now he really lacks endurance, strength, and survival skills. Being on the island he's on will give him a chance to build on that. Not to mention he can learn to do more damage with his shots.

Jorge D. Dragon
July 08, 2010, 01:27 AM
Yeah, Usopp really needs to become stronger fisically, because now he lacks fisical conditions. So, it will be great for him to train.

RezzieThaRapper
July 09, 2010, 08:55 AM
All Luffy has to do is master his Kings haki. Once he does that all he needs to do is inflate himself as much as he can and "yell" at his opponents - it could pretty much take out anyone.

Sanji, Usopp - devil fruit, haki

Rest of the straw hat crew - haki

what would inflating himself do...

Bugzee
July 12, 2010, 10:21 AM
I guess once the SH's are able to comfortably use their new power ups that they are currently getting to grips with and developing right now....the main kind of improvement if you like in the future for them will mainly come from the fighting/battling experience that they'll encounter in the NW imo.

THM Nindo
July 17, 2010, 10:09 AM
Okay, so it seem that we will actually see their "training"!!
I was thinking that they would just reappear at the archipelago trained and everything, but Oda seems to want to show how they escape their islands.

Zoro : To leave the island, he need to defeat the war-ape (maybe some tips by Mihawk?)
Usopp : Needs to defeat the monsters of the island and maybe the plant-island itself
Nami : Need to learn control of the wind otherwise she can't use the balloon to go down to the sea
Brooke : Taken by the long-arm, who might be good at sound-based attack (like we saw Apoo doing.)
Franky : Saw some sketches and blueprint before blowing up the whole base. Might need to built up a new prototype to get out of this island.

As for Chopper, it looks like this one is actually already out of the island and in his way, but I have the feeling that he will have some "quest" too, maybe in route, or something... It would be weird if he's the only one that had nothing to learn to get out of the island...

Sanji and Robin are left uncertain for now, but I'm sure that Sanji will have learn some Okama tempo and that he might be able to fight against women now...
Those two are also likely to meet with the RA (through Iva for Sanji, and maybe Sabo(!!!) for Robin).

chronojenix
July 17, 2010, 11:43 AM
zoro: no devil fruit tbh he can already ignite his opponents and set them ablaze (zoro v ryuuma) i think the most helpful thing for him would be learning how to control ryuumas sword (it has a mind of its own according to him) and actually be able to become as fast as the wind or manipulate it with incredibly powerful sword strikes.

luffy: the haki thing would make him stronger and he would be able to fight logia opponents this way. i also think that a new gear needs to be created as even though the other two are powerful, their weaknesses are easy to spot and take advantage of. e.g: expanding his muscle mass with increased blood pressure lke in gear second to become a larger more muscular powerful luffy ( a bit like when he absorbed all those shadows to beat moria) and another form where he condenses himself by compacting the rubber allowing incredibly powerful attacks and a greater gear second state.

sanji: okama kempo idea is kinda kl especially with the lightning thing like before. it also compliments his style as being a cook. i dont mind him getting a df but it has to be a zoan as getting any other would be useless. he has element snow he just needs brute strength. if he learns how to use okama kempo to strengthen his leg muscles... big power up

chopper: the animals on that island could have helped him find inner peace in his monster form as he did with the creatures or he could find a certain wild plant that helps him regain consciousness and control the rumble transformation. also by broadening his knowledge as a doctor and finding out weaknesses in human anatomy he could be able to come up with deadly toxins and poisons to help him overcome opponents.

franky: he is an incomplete cyborg, with amateur weapons and a weak design. comparing him to a kuma robot is too much of a battle. by using vegapunks designs he could upgrade himself by using the same almost impenetrable steel and using science and the new technology to create vastly superior weapons. e.g: coup de vent could be coup de l'eau, by using pressurized water instead of wind would be stronger.

nami: the weather ball would be useful as it would strengthen clima tact incredibly. also namis lightning attacks are really effective when fighting in a storm where the is allot of water. by using the weather ball she could summon a great downpour and beat opponents with strategic combos. this would make nami a support fighter with strategies rather than a close combat person which would suit her more.

usopp: usopps main weakness in battle is his weak body. his eyes are his best asset which gives him great sniping ability but his opponents normally quickly suss it out and battle him at close range . his durability and pride are exceptionally high allowing him to keep on fighting but without normal strength he wont be able to do much. now that hes fat he needs to turn it into muscle and train regularly, increasing his chances in battle and be able to fight from anywhere. also by making kabuto eat a df it would allow him to have a powerful sniping item and a back-up main fighter if the need arises.

brook: due to brook being dead he is very light and speedy. this is a good strength but he doesnt have power to back it up since he has no muscles. i think that brook should be able to focus on his bones ability to strengthen with the use of calcium. with something like this he could make himself stronger and have power to strike opponents. his devil fruit also seems to be quite useless like luffys at first but could have a secondary ability like being able to make things die by infecting them, being able to animate dead items, or be able to freely mainpulate countless bones. with this he could have a backup if all else fails.

robin: robin is a hard one, but once again she lacks actual strength which lets her down. but now that she is in Tequila Wolf she can become stronger with manual labour instead of relying on her df all the time. also by using weapons she can use her hands to full use and possible even create clones or a whole army of herself. also whilst in tequila wolf she could use her time to think about her weaknesses and come up with new ways to use her devil fruit. e.g make herself into a proper bird and be able to fly and attack. once again robin is another support character of the straw hats.
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hyper_megaman
July 19, 2010, 09:55 AM
i think the whole thing about franky being bombed is to force him to get so injured he has to repair himself with vegapunk's blueprints again

he doesn't seem like one to upgrade routinely. that bomb pretty much ensures he's dying, and he might as well upgrade to the best he can get at that point of time (he juts saw the blueprints a few minutes earlier, he could get some ideas)

Jorge D. Dragon
July 27, 2010, 02:21 AM
I got an idea for Luffy to power up, though it's a bit DBZdish...
We know that Luffy's Devil Fruit's properties are to extend, to shrink. I think that his DF has maybe the greatest fisical destructive potential in the whole One Pice world.
The idea depends on Franky. If he can build a room (on a ship or somewhere else, though it would be better on a ship to train more comfortable.) where you can change the pressure and train.;) So we know that Luffy's doriki (destructive power level that rokushiki users used to mesure their offensive capabilities) is rather high. And with training under great pressure will raise his fisical capabilities drastically and also develov his DF. I think one of his problems now is not only the lack of fisical power, but that he can't withstand his own gear second. And with this training he can get accustomed to its usage without harming himself.
So after this training he can become the strongest person fisically in One Piece. And also with the help of this training he can develop gears that he has now and also invent some new.;)

neomaster121
July 29, 2010, 10:51 AM
I got an idea for Luffy to power up, though it's a bit DBZdish...
We know that Luffy's Devil Fruit's properties are to extend, to shrink. I think that his DF has maybe the greatest fisical destructive potential in the whole One Pice world.
The idea depends on Franky. If he can build a room (on a ship or somewhere else, though it would be better on a ship to train more comfortable.) where you can change the pressure and train.;) So we know that Luffy's doriki (destructive power level that rokushiki users used to mesure their offensive capabilities) is rather high. And with training under great pressure will raise his fisical capabilities drastically and also develov his DF. I think one of his problems now is not only the lack of fisical power, but that he can't withstand his own gear second. And with this training he can get accustomed to its usage without harming himself.
So after this training he can become the strongest person fisically in One Piece. And also with the help of this training he can develop gears that he has now and also invent some new.;)

theres only one crew member who would ever use such a room and his name isn't luffy

Luffy just doesn't train and wouldn't want the room as he'd rather goof about with the crew which is fine

Zoro on the other hand would love a room like that

Wisshard
July 30, 2010, 05:58 PM
luffy: the haki thing would make him stronger and he would be able to fight logia opponents this way. i also think that a new gear needs to be created as even though the other two are powerful, their weaknesses are easy to spot and take advantage of. e.g: expanding his muscle mass with increased blood pressure lke in gear second to become a larger more muscular powerful luffy ( a bit like when he absorbed all those shadows to beat moria) and another form where he condenses himself by compacting the rubber allowing incredibly powerful attacks and a greater gear second state.

I sincerely hope that Oda doesn't give Luffy another gear, I'd rather that Luffy develop his base physical prowess instead of relying on temporary power-up such as Gear 2....
It is popular in shounen manga (Ichigo's Bankai, Hollow Mask, Sage Mode etc) but I dislike when a technique that grants temporary boost in physical prowess becomes the measuring point for a character - since it is, after all, a temporary boost.

And some Haki training alone wont get Luffy any nearer the high tier, Impel Down and the War showed that Luffy lacks martial prowess as well.

Soka
August 07, 2010, 09:51 AM
As shown in the chapter chopper is working on medicine and probably the rumble ball.
If the birds on the island are giants because of the plants they eat maybe Chopper could create a rumble ball that gives hims as much growth a his monster mode while still being conscious? He could fight giants then?

Even though - I hope the power ups will go so far that every strawhat will get some cool fights in the future it would be a nice change from the "in the ends just the hero cn make serious fights" shonen routine

Deo_df
August 17, 2010, 08:32 AM
I wonder if robins power is cumulative, if one of her flower arms get hurt does she get hurt? That could be a very beneficial power. That would imply they tire when utilized which I hope means she can do a thousand bicep curls and get real strong really quick. I don't think she should get superman strong like the monster trio, but hopefully she will be stronger than humanly possible though.

Cizuz
August 17, 2010, 03:44 PM
I wonder if robins power is cumulative, if one of her flower arms get hurt does she get hurt? That could be a very beneficial power. That would imply they tire when utilized which I hope means she can do a thousand bicep curls and get real strong really quick. I don't think she should get superman strong like the monster trio, but hopefully she will be stronger than humanly possible though.

Robin doesn't have a nine tailed fox sealed within her.

Also, if it was cumulative, that would be horrible, due to the fact that if she spawned 50 arms, it would divide her power by 50, sure she would gain a lot of strength, but the damage she could cause per arm would be small.(Which it seems to be anyway...)

Pandamic
August 27, 2010, 03:25 AM
I hypothesise that after the time skip:

Zorro:
-will learn how to be gentle with his swords: http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-050/page015.html.
-Since he's training with hawk eyes he'll brake 1 or 2 swords, but still be as strong as when he has 3 swords. he'll eventually find new ones to replace them as the story continues.

Robin:
-will be able to "grow" her whole body,which will be mobile, instead of just parts of her body.

Sanji
-Okama kenpo. duh.
-Attack cuisine (in addition to the Okamas recipes he'll create his own signature dish.

Franky:
-He'll incorporate Kairōseki (海楼石, Seastone) into his hands . I think the SH need someone else that can punch/attack fruit users, especially logias. Also I believe it would be comedic to see him give Luffy or Chopper a hug or a high 5.
-He'll figure out how to feed Thousand Sunny a DF(maybe a wood wood fruit).
-he'll develop something to make Pirate docking six actually useful in battle.lol. jkhttp://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-472/page005.html

Nami:
-She'll attach he wind knot rope to the middle of her staff; It'll look like nunchuks.
-Obviously she'll have a better grasp of controlling the weather.
-she'll create weather phenomenons that hasn't been discovered before/ doesn't occur naturally in nature.

Chopper:
-since he is a doctor.will create a rumble ball that will allow him to heal people by licking them. he'll have a huge tongue. why do I think that? you may ask. > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080723094841.htm http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-592/page006.htmlIt'll be called healing or doctor point.
-he'll look significantly older and taller; think teenagerish. he'll still look and act cute.
-he'll spar with the birds; he'll be physically stronger without the rumble ball.
-his rumble ball transformations will look different too
-he'll have a doctors coat. it'll make him look legit.

Brook:
-He'll compose music to give a person strength and endurance and the ability to stop a person from feeling pain so they can keep fighting.
-Confuse enemies to attack each other. Make them physically and mentally weak. make aggressive people docile.

Ussop:
-he'll be actually strong enough to carry/use a 10 ton hammer http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-466/page010.html
-He'll have a newly developed Kabuto to shoot pop greens.

Luffy:
-he'll be able to do the one finger attack that Rob Lucci does "shigan" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-347/page006.html except that he'll use all his fingers and thumbs. he'll have a jet pistol and jet gatling version of it... he'll have to use colour of armaments haki to use it though.

that's all my imagination could come up with:)

Newkerzy
August 27, 2010, 08:19 AM
To be honest, I kinda hope that during the timeskip, Law would accidentally stumble on Chopper's island. Chopper is a talented doctor but there's one area that he lacks at. Surgery. Law seems to be a genius surgeon from the looks of it. (he saved Luffy who was pretty much at death's door & wrecked his body) but I think he may lack in medicine & herbal knowledge. So, basically Law would teach Chopper surgery & Chopper would teach Law about herbs & medicines. Not only that, Chopper will be able to find out about Luffy's body condition and Chopper has every right to know about it since he's the Strawhats' doctor

chess4
August 27, 2010, 02:51 PM
Luffy will be able to use all 3 types of haki

Zoro will be able to use the color observation and be able to hear the breath of all things. That will allow him to cut anything.

Sanji and usopp both will be able to use the color of armor.

I don't think any of them will be experts at it after skip but will be able to use it in sperts until they gett a better understanding.

I don't think any of the others will be able to use it well.

Frankie he will get weapons upfrade obviously

I'm sure book will be faster and stronger and will be able 2 use music techs

Chopper will be able to use his monster point a bit longer since it will become an awaken zoan

Deo_df
September 16, 2010, 01:31 AM
When Luffy returns he should be half way between his current size and the size of nightmare Luffy. So bigger than Rayleigh. For some reason I just imagine his rubber body stretching to contain all the power inside him like it did with Nightmare Luffy, NL was just sooooooo cool, I want him to return in some capacity. I think NL was a glimpse of the future pirate king, hopefully we will see more of him?