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evozoku
January 13, 2010, 04:52 PM
Present your evidence here!



I also noticed in Chapter 0 when we see the execution of Roger Croc is the only one not facing us...
Is this because of some sort of sex change or facial reconstruction done by Iva??..)


Iwankov, king of the all the okama, knows a secret about Crocodille, remember?? :D


Crocodille and Daz Bones? Yes maybe they are couple


Yea, hes always smoking that big cigar


he could couldn't he? We didn't see his face 20 years ago


One Piece has always been a little wacky....

kkck
January 13, 2010, 05:00 PM
I thought ivankov said he knew of a weakness of crocodile. Dunno if that was a mistranslation though.

Crocodile and das had never met before the crocodile arc. Crocodile kept his identity secret from all of the baroque works.

evozoku
January 13, 2010, 05:11 PM
Well they sure seem friendly now. In fact, Das Bones is the only person that Crocodile is teaming/hooking up with (rejecting other peoples come-ons to team/hook up). I'd say that sounds like a monogamous relationship.

redred
January 13, 2010, 05:27 PM
Iva seems to be a very gender specific person (like he has ppl call him/her the Queen or a she even when hes clearly a male)

i don't think someone like Iva would refer to crocodile as "Croco boy" if he used to be a woman lol but thats just me
and yeah i understood that iva knew his weakness. idk if that was a translation thing :O

evozoku
January 13, 2010, 05:37 PM
Iva seems to be a very gender specific person (like he has ppl call him/her the Queen or a she even when hes clearly a male)

i don't think someone like Iva would refer to crocodile as "Croco boy" if he used to be a woman lol but thats just me
and yeah i understood that iva knew his weakness. idk if that was a translation thing :O

Well I'm sure that if Iva gave him the sex change with his/her hormones, Iva will respect his wish to be referred to as a man. After all, Iva called it a secret. Referring to him as a female would kind of give away the secret. All we have are clues!


You're reasoning for Iva being gender specific doesn't make sense. Iva is (usually) clearly male, but acts as a sort of drag queen, and so wishes to be referred to as female. By the same token, even if Iva knows that Crocodile used to be a woman, because he lives as a man, Iva would refer to Croco as such. Iva respects what people wish to be viewed as.

Duzy
January 13, 2010, 05:58 PM
i don't think someone like Iva would refer to crocodile as "Croco boy" if he used to be a woman lol but thats just me
and yeah i understood that iva knew his weakness. idk if that was a translation thing :O

I never really thought hard on that "croco boy" but now that you mentioned it... I reckon it actually might be the evidence in favour of sex-change theory.

Does anyone know how does that "croco boy" look in the raw ?

Razh
January 13, 2010, 06:02 PM
I always thought it was fairly possible. Oda has done it deliberately. Since the moment Ivankov mentioned that he knew Crocodile's weakness (something that Crocodile would want to keep a secret can also be a weakness), and he/she can change gender, Oda knew what his readers will start to think (some of them anyway). That's why he didn't show Crocodile's face in chapter 0. He wanted to keep us wondering.

You could say that Crocodile has some feminine traits, but the same can be said for a lot of characters. Ivankov calling him Croco-boy is no evidence. It could just as well be a sarcastic nickname.

RichardMNixon
January 13, 2010, 07:18 PM
Mr. 2 was Bon-boy, so Croco-boy means nothing. It's entirely possible he used to be a woman, but still very speculative. I don't think Mr. 1 has anything to do with it.

LongLiveOnePiece
January 13, 2010, 08:09 PM
hello everyone, i would like to add that at chapter 0 croc was wearing an earring which is not wearing right now.i know that doesn't proof the theory that he was a woman but it is something to look upon.
here is the proof:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/565.5/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/540/19/ or alternative http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/570-25/10

redred
January 13, 2010, 09:38 PM
hello everyone, i would like to add that at chapter 0 croc was wearing an earring which is not wearing right now.i know that doesn't proof the theory that he was a woman but it is something to look upon.
here is the proof:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/565.5/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/540/19/ or alternative http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/570-25/10

doflamingo is wearing earrings in that page too. a lot of pirates wear jewelery and wierd stuff.
im not completely against the theory. i just like keeping the argument alive lol
edit: someone made a great point in another thread:


He was with it during Arabasta arc...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x37/AldricAPF/crocodile.jpg

it makes sense that hes not wearing it in impel down because he is stripped of all his possessions and was allowed to keep the hook

Googlez_kun
January 16, 2010, 06:38 PM
he had the earring before:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e135/ShadowBankotsu/One%20Piece/Crocodile.jpg
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/155/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/173/09/

RichardMNixon
January 16, 2010, 08:08 PM
Zoro wears earrings too, just to beat a dead horse into the ground.

Jiggy-Ninja
January 17, 2010, 12:20 AM
Zoro wears earrings too, just to beat a dead horse into the ground.
3 of them, in fact. Damn, I never knew he was such a pussy. :p

The fact that Iva knows the secret at that One Piece is just that damn crazy is enough to make me think that this is more than possible.

kkck
January 17, 2010, 02:45 AM
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/11760

Ivankov says he knows a weakness of crocodile, not a secret. I guess a secret is a weakness but something like that will not help ivankov suppress him should crocodile go crazy. He also has yet to show anything which seems capable of hurting a logia. I doubt crocodile used to be a woman.

Jiggy-Ninja
January 17, 2010, 12:36 PM
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/11760

Ivankov says he knows a weakness of crocodile, not a secret. I guess a secret is a weakness but something like that will not help ivankov suppress him should crocodile go crazy. He also has yet to show anything which seems capable of hurting a logia. I doubt crocodile used to be a woman.
When in doubt, look at the raw, not a translation. The translation is the whole reason for the dispute anyway, right?

The word used is 弱み (yowami), which is a variation of the adjective yowai, which means weak.

Ivankov seems to be referring to a physical weakness of Crocodile's, not just a generic secret.

kkck
January 17, 2010, 04:31 PM
Usually the cnet translations are the most reliable ones around. Aren't you agreeing with me lol?

Jiggy-Ninja
January 17, 2010, 10:21 PM
Usually the cnet translations are the most reliable ones around. Aren't you agreeing with me lol?
Yes, it is the same as what you said, but the point is you need to look at what's in the raw, not just a translated script, which may be imperfect. Languages rarely translate perfectly into one another, so there are always subtle nuances and implications that are lost in the process.

kkck
January 17, 2010, 10:47 PM
Well, I can't really read japanese so I usually rely on those who can -and in this case as I said before cnet is among the best-... Do you think there is any room there for ivankov to actually have meant secret rather than weakness?

Jiggy-Ninja
January 18, 2010, 02:12 AM
Well, I can't really read japanese so I usually rely on those who can -and in this case as I said before cnet is among the best-... Do you think there is any room there for ivankov to actually have meant secret rather than weakness?
No, I don't think so.

As I said, the word Iva used is yowami, which is a noun form of the adjective yowai. Yowai means weak, the opposite of tsuyoi (strong).

Iva is talking about knowing a weakness or a weak point of Crocodile's. The implication is that it is something that can be used against Crocodile, either directly (like his weakness to water) or more indirectly (blackmailed by some terrible secret or something).

That's my understanding anyway.

bittman
January 18, 2010, 03:32 AM
Now I don't know a lot about much, but I know a little about everything. If Crocodile could be "kept in line" because his terrible secret was "he used to be female", then Crocodile would (both literally and metaphorically) be a major pussy. I don't know how well you all know Crocodile, but being a pussy (metaphorically) is not his style and being a pussycat (literally) is not a "weakness" unless revealing the secret makes him have a heart attack.

Want a plausible theory about chapter 0? Oda didn't show us Croc's face because of the (quite obvious I thought) scar which traverses the wide spanse of his face. Shanks' face has also been hidden for a similar reason, so that when Oda does reveal how people of these calibers came across such horrific scars, he has leeway to the date.

There's also that hook thing...

ZenoArmani
January 18, 2010, 01:13 PM
When in doubt, look at the raw, not a translation. The translation is the whole reason for the dispute anyway, right?

The word used is 弱み (yowami), which is a variation of the adjective yowai, which means weak.

Ivankov seems to be referring to a physical weakness of Crocodile's, not just a generic secret.
And it was also in a context of handling Crocodile in combat if he became a problem. I also don't think that Crocodile would let himself be blackmailed over something like that. (Then again, it might destroy much of his reputation if it was leaked.) Maybe it was simply that water and liquid can make him vulnerable, and they had Jimbei with them?

Jiggy-Ninja
January 18, 2010, 05:02 PM
And it was also in a context of handling Crocodile in combat if he became a problem. I also don't think that Crocodile would let himself be blackmailed over something like that. (Then again, it might destroy much of his reputation if it was leaked.) Maybe it was simply that water and liquid can make him vulnerable, and they had Jimbei with them?
I too, think it's a physical weakness, like water, that Iva was talking about.

Though Crocodile doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would take shit for anyone, being a chick in the past (if this theory is true) could just be something he doesn't want people to know, and is willing to go through some reasonable steps to keep it a secret.

Though if it did became known, he'd likely just Barchan the ass off of anyone that dared laugh at him about it, so his reputation wouldn't go down for very long. He's still a bad ass powerful pirate.

GomuGomuNoBigBoner
January 19, 2010, 11:50 AM
maybe hes homophobe and is therefor stricken with an unbearable panic in case he should face iva

Roarchu
January 19, 2010, 01:54 PM
I think Croco and Das already knew already knew each other before alabasta, look

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/165/11/

Das seems really surprised just like everyone

but then here

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/541/16/

"since it is you asking"? so Croco wasn't just his boss?

and then

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/570/10/

people already mentioned this, but Croco does seem to be ticked off that Das got hurt

I don't really think there's any CrocoxDas thing going on, but maybe.

Superman
January 19, 2010, 02:55 PM
Ivankov sais that he would surpress Croc by himself and that he knows a precious weakness...........
What the fuck would it help to surpress Croc if Iva shouts out loud: " CROC WAS A WOMAN!!!!!!"............i would say nothing. In fact Iva might get in danger by himself because Croc is aggressiv and would try to fuck him up.
Well what would such a secret help try to answer it. Hes is and was probably a man.......but it would be funny if not.:XD

Damn i smell alot of fanmade Croc x Daz romances in the future.

Fox666
January 19, 2010, 03:05 PM
I think Croco and Das already knew already knew each other before alabasta, look

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/165/11/

Das seems really surprised just like everyone

but then here

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/541/16/

"since it is you asking"? so Croco wasn't just his boss?

and then

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/570/10/

people already mentioned this, but Croco does seem to be ticked off that Das got hurt

I don't really think there's any CrocoxDas thing going on, but maybe.Hahahaha!!! That's hilarious!! XD XD

Superman
January 19, 2010, 03:10 PM
Das seems really surprised just like everyone

but then here

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/541/16/

"since it is you asking"? so Croco wasn't just his boss?



Yes he was and is just his boss. Croc was back then a shichibukai so Daz knew like everyone else how mercyless he was (there were rumors right?) so there was no other option. Either you jump or you`re dead it "was" simple as that back there. Nowadays Croc knows Daz is loyal so of course he defends him.

Lord Rayleigh
January 19, 2010, 03:15 PM
I think Croco and Das already knew already knew each other before alabasta, look

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/165/11/

Das seems really surprised just like everyone

The more interesting thing here is that these idiots of BW are surprised to find out that Crocodile is their boss. Had Robin not just said that they were in the Casino of Rainbase which was Crocodile's ? Plus, Crocodile was known to live in this town (unlike Doflamingo with Shabondy Archipelago and his slave house).

bittman
January 19, 2010, 08:16 PM
What the heck is this Das x Croc thing? Apparantly, if you get pissed because you're subordinate gets hurt, then you're gay for them.

This makes Luffy at least 6 times gay, 2 times straight and 2 times wooden ship fetish...and Shanks is a pedo from chapter 1.

Crocodile is like Greed from fma. He wants everything. Subordinates, fame, wealth, power. Damage any of that, he's not gonna be happy.

kkck
January 19, 2010, 08:27 PM
Ivankov sais that he would surpress Croc by himself and that he knows a precious weakness...........
What the fuck would it help to surpress Croc if Iva shouts out loud: " CROC WAS A WOMAN!!!!!!"............i would say nothing. In fact Iva might get in danger by himself because Croc is aggressiv and would try to fuck him up.
Well what would such a secret help try to answer it. Hes is and was probably a man.......but it would be funny if not.:XD

Damn i smell alot of fanmade Croc x Daz romances in the future.

True... probably screaming out something like that would make crocodile angry and all the more dangerous lol.

DEATHBOTT
January 19, 2010, 08:34 PM
when he was a little girl he wanted to be pirate king so much but everyone laughed at him because of his sex, then he found iva and she changed him into a man. i think that could work. pretty crazy though.

kkck
January 19, 2010, 08:41 PM
I don't even think iva would see the whole thing as a weakness. Iva is not a normal person, I think his own mentality would stop him from thinking there is something shameful about sex change.

Roarchu
January 20, 2010, 12:15 AM
What the heck is this Das x Croc thing? Apparantly, if you get pissed because you're subordinate gets hurt, then you're gay for them.

This makes Luffy at least 6 times gay, 2 times straight and 2 times wooden ship fetish...and Shanks is a pedo from chapter 1.

Crocodile is like Greed from fma. He wants everything. Subordinates, fame, wealth, power. Damage any of that, he's not gonna be happy.


it's just surprising that heartless, ruthless, merciless Croc cared for someone even a little bit.

the gay thing is just a joke that's funny cuz of Iva and Iva knowing Croc's secret

we can only say that while we don't know the secret, so let's say it while we can

Croc x Daz!!!!

LeKuaSimi
January 20, 2010, 05:41 AM
What about that Daz is the third party in IvaxCroc, but in order to be together with Daz (Daz does not know about IvaXCroc), Croc broke up with Iva. I can see how losing a loved one due to a shameful past be a weakness.

Jiggy-Ninja
January 21, 2010, 06:08 PM
Ivankov sais that he would surpress Croc by himself and that he knows a precious weakness...........
What the fuck would it help to surpress Croc if Iva shouts out loud: " CROC WAS A WOMAN!!!!!!"............i would say nothing. In fact Iva might get in danger by himself because Croc is aggressiv and would try to fuck him up.
Well what would such a secret help try to answer it. Hes is and was probably a man.......but it would be funny if not.:XD

Damn i smell alot of fanmade Croc x Daz romances in the future.
Ah ha...fuck him up....I find that choice of phrase quite funny, in light of the current topic. :p

What the heck is this Das x Croc thing? Apparantly, if you get pissed because you're subordinate gets hurt, then you're gay for them.

This makes Luffy at least 6 times gay, 2 times straight and 2 times wooden ship fetish...and Shanks is a pedo from chapter 1.

Crocodile is like Greed from fma. He wants everything. Subordinates, fame, wealth, power. Damage any of that, he's not gonna be happy.
Croc and Greed are quite similar, I never thought of it like that.

Greed, incidentally, is the only Homun I actually like. Except maybe Sloth.

I don't even think iva would see the whole thing as a weakness. Iva is not a normal person, I think his own mentality would stop him from thinking there is something shameful about sex change.
It doesn't matter what Iva thinks about it. all that matters is whether it would be something Crocodile would be embarrassed about.

Fox666
January 21, 2010, 06:50 PM
Hahaha, this thread is funny. But there is nothing strange in Crocodile protecting Daz. Mr. 3 was useless for his terms. While Daz is loyal and strong. Crocodile is not the evil incarnation, if he respect a crewmate he will protect him if he can.

Pyrus
January 22, 2010, 01:37 AM
What if instead of a physical weakness or gender bender shenanigans, Crocodile has a family that is under the care of the revolutionary army, or kept on an island only known to Iva?..

KnuckleheadedNinja
January 22, 2010, 02:04 AM
Say it ain't so. I really hope Crocodile didn't undergo a sex change.

Shiro-kun
January 22, 2010, 07:22 PM
Whats with the yaoi shipping's?

some fans are crazy .....

But i hope Crocodile's weaknesses isnt that plain and simple, im expecting something deep since its Crocodile...

ScratchmenApoo
March 21, 2010, 03:14 AM
I just saw anime episode 443 - there was a discussion with Ivankov and Crocodile. Now it is clear that Ivankov did NOT mean the "water" weakness. Iva said he met Croc in the past when the latter was still a rookie (perhaps around the time of Gol D. Roger's execution?) Crocodile was even more distressed about his past not leaking out. For me it gives much more confidence that Crocodile was indeed a woman in the past.

Wrath
March 21, 2010, 04:41 AM
Crocodile is Luffy's mother.

PaPiPuPePo~
March 21, 2010, 06:35 AM
Crocodile is Luffy's mother.

XD nice theory
but crocodile almost killed luffy O.o a mom would never do this

Immo
March 21, 2010, 08:42 AM
Crocodile is Luffy's mother.

Just wanted to post this but you were first. Ok then maybe.... Croco boy is Ace's mother after sex change and memory lose?

Sachsenhesse
March 21, 2010, 08:53 AM
well its possible

his baroque firma has until the team 12 1 one male member and one female member, so that crew was the crew ith most females

according to that crocs wish is to become pirateking, lets say he was once a woman and wanted to become pirateking, but he coudlnt cause he was a woman and then piratequeen... come on , so he begged iva for sexchange

then of course he founded baroque and made the feminism antistrategy with his mr. and mrs.

there are some hints i would say, also his nickname "sir crocodile", why that sir? maybe it was once "miss crocodile"? xD

vagabond87
March 21, 2010, 06:17 PM
I think that secret of Crocodile can be something different than sex change- maby he was simply Newkama in the begining.. That can be really emberasing for someone with pride- imagine Crocodile in dress :sweat:grin

Mess
March 21, 2010, 07:56 PM
I just saw anime episode 443 - there was a discussion with Ivankov and Crocodile. Now it is clear that Ivankov did NOT mean the "water" weakness. Iva said he met Croc in the past when the latter was still a rookie (perhaps around the time of Gol D. Roger's execution?) Crocodile was even more distressed about his past not leaking out. For me it gives much more confidence that Crocodile was indeed a woman in the past.

Ofcurse we cant take the anime as solid fact but its still interesting and relevant to the discussion for sure:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8068/crocodile1.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/crocodile1.jpg/)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9423/crocodile2.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/crocodile2.jpg/)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9963/crocodile3.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/crocodile3.jpg/)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/180/crocodile4.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/crocodile4.jpg/)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8878/crocodile5.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/crocodile5.jpg/)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5736/crocodile6.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/crocodile6.jpg/)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8904/crocodile7.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/crocodile7.jpg/)

vagabond87
March 22, 2010, 02:23 AM
Ofcurse we cant take the anime as solid fact but its still interesting and relevant to the discussion for sure:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8068/crocodile1.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/crocodile1.jpg/)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9423/crocodile2.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/crocodile2.jpg/)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9963/crocodile3.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/crocodile3.jpg/)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/180/crocodile4.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/crocodile4.jpg/)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8878/crocodile5.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/crocodile5.jpg/)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5736/crocodile6.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/crocodile6.jpg/)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8904/crocodile7.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/crocodile7.jpg/)

Thanks for posting this. After looking at those picture Im alomst certain that he was okama in the past :darn ;)
One more thing- Ivankov refer to crocodile croco-boy and Im wondering when he using "boy" in talking with other characters??? Beside Luffy of course..

RichardMNixon
March 22, 2010, 08:59 AM
Thanks for posting this. After looking at those picture Im alomst certain that he was okama in the past :darn ;)
One more thing- Ivankov refer to crocodile croco-boy and Im wondering when he using "boy" in talking with other characters??? Beside Luffy of course..

He also says Ace-boy and Bon-boy. He refers to basically everyone like that, it's nothing. Their conversation does make the okama theory more plausible though.

kkck
March 22, 2010, 07:09 PM
I doubt crocodile was a newkama. Crocodile met Iva when he was already a rookie meaning crocodile was already a pirate at the time. I doubt he was a newkama or anything of the sort.

Mess
March 22, 2010, 07:55 PM
I think its fully possible Crocodile was born a man in womans body meet Iva and took the chance changing sex. I can also understand why he would want to keep it a secret but then again knowing Oda theres an equally big chance that its something totally different and random =p

bittman
March 23, 2010, 04:34 AM
Forgot this thread and posted something about it, so I'll just quote myself to keep it in here:


Thank you. Ever since genderbender-Iva turned up, if he so much at looks at someone funny it's assumed they must have been a female in the past. Wait for the big reveal where Dragon is actually Luffy's mother!

In all seriousness, what Iva knows about Croc has a high chance (read: 95%) of being related to the scar on his face, and the hand that he's missing. If you remember Chapter 0, Croc's face was hidden. Let's name another famous pirate with a scar who keeps having his face hidden in flashbacks: Shanks!

It's almost an Oda-trend.

Don't think Iva gave Croc his scar. Most likely he simply knows about whatever the incident was that gave Croc his scar. If it was simply genderbending, do you think Croc would really even be worried about that? Iva never seemed to believe his gender bending was of any harm to anyone, but simply an upgrade. Iva's "upgrade" would not be seen as Croc's "weakness".

Looking forward to Dragon or Kuma were girls theories.

Shisu
March 23, 2010, 04:45 AM
He wasn't female. He was a real...!

http://suparnap.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/american-crocodile-emerging-water.jpg


And basically Iva turned him into a man with his animal-to-human-hormones.
It must be kinda embarrassing for him. lol

vpyr
March 23, 2010, 04:45 AM
Forgot this thread and posted something about it, so I'll just quote myself to keep it in here:



Looking forward to Dragon or Kuma were girls theories.

If Dragon was a girl grap would know it ;) Kuma is... no don't mind... i wont say it... i want this theories... :D

Truefan21
March 23, 2010, 06:11 AM
I hope not his badassness will take a complete blow

Oni Giri
March 27, 2010, 06:03 AM
maybe croc was in roger's crew in his youth and after roger's execution to keep his identity hidden he changed his sex and become a man. so even buggy didn't recognize him.

Roarchu
March 27, 2010, 05:33 PM
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/th_ecc301fe3efe70b25390d2117eb44b92.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/?action=view&current=ecc301fe3efe70b25390d2117eb44b92.jpg)

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/th_289fd14290f6c1bd3c75e0f0054db978.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/?action=view&current=289fd14290f6c1bd3c75e0f0054db978.jpg)

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/th_4d2599706d4979498fdbb305b93cb184.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/?action=view&current=4d2599706d4979498fdbb305b93cb184.jpg)

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/th_d6692c662fea19b3bbb029c0fd9886b4.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/boxaccount/?action=view&current=d6692c662fea19b3bbb029c0fd9886b4.jpg)

I think it'd be cool if croco's a girl. I doubt Crocodile's his real name anyway, it was probly just so we wouldn't know

roxas_strife2
August 18, 2010, 11:12 AM
He wasn't female. He was a real...!

http://suparnap.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/american-crocodile-emerging-water.jpg


And basically Iva turned him into a man with his animal-to-human-hormones.
It must be kinda embarrassing for him. lol

You sir, made me laugh. xD

Anyway, I'm startled to see that not even a mention of how Crocodile was unaffected by Boa's DF power has been on any of these 4 pages. Another supporting element. I will say this is a promising theory, but I won't say it is likely. I like it though. Not that I've ever wanted the image of a female Croc, but I do think it would make me appreciate the development Croc has gone through even more to being the man he is. He's my favorite villain in the series.

kkck
August 18, 2010, 12:29 PM
When would have crocodile been under the effect of boa's fruit though? Not to mention the guy is indeed extremely smart and level headed, he doesn't even seem to have a personal grudge with luffy anymore....

roxas_strife2
August 18, 2010, 01:28 PM
I'm not willing to look the page up, but I was just saying. There are many reasons there could be for it, and this theory would be one of them.

BataKon
August 18, 2010, 02:04 PM
I have not much to contribute to this thread; I just toyed with the idea about Crocodile's secret identity (as Female), and as all good books (and movies) one's hidden identity must lie in their alias name as an anagram
Here's what the following site suggests for crocodile:
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=crocodile&t=1000&a=n

P.S.
I like Coco as first name :)

Spam286
August 19, 2010, 05:34 PM
I'm not willing to look the page up, but I was just saying. There are many reasons there could be for it, and this theory would be one of them.

Possibly not though, Boa's fruit works on women.

Kaiser Will
August 23, 2010, 07:53 PM
Moved. ~ Regarding this read One Piece Revamp Info/Guide Thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63551) please. Remember character related stuff, be it DF or haki discussions should be made in the TOK Forum from now on.

Roarchu
September 25, 2010, 12:13 AM
I heard this somewhere else, sorry i'm about to go to sleep I don't want to write a lot, but what do you think?

DBC
September 25, 2010, 01:37 AM
Crocodiles...a...dude?...what? You're fucking with my head man!!

vollfied
September 25, 2010, 01:42 AM
Well it is possible biologically for REAL crocodile to change sex.. why not in the OP world hahahaha :p.. Anyway have I seen this funny discussion somewhere on the forum before :D

This thread is really2 something I who lurk every single day on this forum can't help but to post my very first reply xD..