Bleach 390 Discussion

[vintagemistakes]

If you haven't seen the goodies yet, you can check them out in the Spoiler Pics and Summaries (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57116) thread. This is where you can discuss all about them. No spamming allowed.

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The new chapter is out! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/m/bleach/chapters/390/)! :nuts

[Nmaster]

From what I get from google the story didn't advance at all.

[911119]

wtf? unless I got it wrong sasuke strikes danzo with chidori nagashi disregarding KARIN?! after all she did for him?! that's it, from now on anyone who will claim that bastard's cause and methods are just is either delusional or ignorant.

the guy is an asshole, piece of shit, lower than trash. leaving juugo and suigetsu behind was bad as it was but THIS?!

I hope danzo won't die



This is Bleach forum you know :rolleyes:

We see gin ... hope he pwns Ichigo :D :D :D

[AlB]

sorry wrong forum really sorry :) gin? yay

[Karma]

You not into the Naruto section... hello..:s ... Anyhow, I can surely feel your frustration..

I guess everyone commented at the same.. So i just edit my post to say i can't wait to see gin get at ichigo..

[AlB]

people I already said sorry and deleted the post, calm down shit happens :)

can anyone say what the spoiler says? google translator sucks

[Yans86]

Koma goeas down,and Gin is finally standing and talking.....ih ihihihih ih
Finally the creepy one is back in the game!time to see him serious????

[911119]

people I already said sorry and deleted the post, calm down shit happens :)

can anyone say what the spoiler says? google translator sucks

It says Hitsugaya continues to Attack & komamura get OWNED .. and we see Gin ...

[Yans86]

The problem is that Unohana will heal him,alongside the others and we gonna need to start this war again......lol
It would be really interesting to know how many captain levels Unohana can heal and restore reiatsu in the same moment...just to know what we should expect u know?!
:-P

[Random101]

I'm going to wait for a translation by something with some semblance of skill, but if Koma goes down than this is getting ridiculous. I mean seriously, give the poor guy a break.

[Xerous]

this is getting annoying it already feels like I've seen this chapter :(

[Yans86]

At least we know 1 thing.....every times Gin is in the chapter or talks,someone is heavily injured,pwned or about to die....lol
Let him have 10 chapters and Bleach will skyrocket again to SS levels :-p

[LoS]

hahaha even the spoiler says shit didnt even happen. I am truly beginning to think that bleach will be best read in a yearly span, maybe by 3 or so volumes at once. Otherwise it is just so boring

[ssj4jw]

I will slightly forgive Kubo since he brought Gin in this chapter but that doesn't forgive the slow story progressing.

[Shiro-kun]

Bleach is boring...
because

Boring Invincible Villain
Heroes never die
Its takes forever for the plot to move on
Spoiler providers actually bringing out in boring style while providing it ...

Ah kubo :(
Your writing of war outstands me
But Gin no longer sipping tea anymore i guess ....still where the hell is Yama?

[chilibun]

I'm going to wait for a translation by something with some semblance of skill, but if Koma goes down than this is getting ridiculous. I mean seriously, give the poor guy a break.

Yea, I know. He gets his butt whooped every time he gets any screen time. Poor doggy.

Anyways, why does no one pay attention to Gin? He just impaled Hiyori not too long ago. Plus, shouldn't Genryusai be watching their backs since he is literally doing nothing but watching the fight.

[facade]

sigh...well hopefully the chapter picks up when we can actually view the raw...more interested in what gin says though..

[Brklynty1]

What else is new with Bleach? Thank god kubo plans on ending a freakin 4 YEAR ARC in june. Hitsuguya attacks and gets parried, koma gets pwned again......, vaizards are like 30 ft away and won't reach aizen till next chapter....... Fox eyes gives a speech instead of actually swinging dow a sword, and Ukitake is still kissing the ground. I swear kubo is making him look like shit when we know he fuckin pwns.

[AlB]

Yea, I know. He gets his butt whooped every time he gets any screen time. Poor doggy.

Anyways, why does no one pay attention to Gin? He just impaled Hiyori not too long ago. Plus, shouldn't Genryusai be watching their backs since he is literally doing nothing but watching the fight.

1st. he didn't impale her, he did worse - he freaking bifurcated her.
2nd. yamamamamamamamoto has probably fallen asleep
3rd oh please lord, make kubo kill hitsugaya

[tousendrinksbleach]

koma again is the one that gets pwnt lol
come on kubo , you beating the guy because he is a dog (wolf?) thats racism

[Yans86]

We r lucky that Gin is never disappointing :-P

[DARK]

Bleach is boring...
because

Boring Invincible Villain
Heroes never die
Its takes forever for the plot to move on
Spoiler providers actually bringing out in boring style while providing it ...

Ah kubo :(
Your writing of war outstands me
But Gin no longer sipping tea anymore i guess ....still where the hell is Yama?

It makes me question why Yamamoto isn't the one fighting Aizen right now. He may have fought in the Karakura battle, but he effortlessly defeated Allon without receiving any injuries. He is in a better condition fighting Aizen than the lot of them. Besides, he's the strongest fighter that Soul Society has right now. And we've been waiting a LONG time for a Yamamoto VS Aizen match; to confirm exactly who is the strongest of the two.
It seems to me that Kubo is focusing more on the popular characters and not the strongest and less developed characters. The basis of this chapter so far is: "Hitsugaya is so pissed at Aizen that he wants to kill him no matter what, but Aizen is too haxed to die."
These Captains might as well just gang up on Aizen right now with their released swords. I'd rather have a Gin VS Hitsugaya rematch on this one. Even if Aizen was the true mastermind behind the plot, Gin is still more or less Hitsugaya's nemesis.

[David Gill]

aizen is no shinigami, he's god!

[Eddy01741]

The answer is simple nowadays. Kubo is milking the franchise, period.

As long as there are diehard bleach fans (along with diehard Ichigo, Hitsu, Aizen, etc. fans) in Japan, Kubo doesn't have to worry about pacing as they will buy shonen jump and read bleach anyways, and therefore, he will still get paid. The only way Kubo would be forced to start writing Bleach at a respectable speed is if it loses popularity in Japan, which unfortunately, we here (mostly not being from Japan) have no control over. Basically, when Kubo starts going so slow and bleach starts getting so boring that he alienates even the biggest fans of Bleach, then Kubo will bring Bleach back to a reasonable pace, until then, he's milking the franchise.

I mean, if you look at the pacing of bleach, it just keeps getting slower from SS arc and after. Once Bleach got popular, Kubo wanted to make more money and please the fans of popular characters (*ahem* Hitsugaya*ahem*) instead of making an actually good plot with good pacing. You can tell when two characters that equally had their asses kicked by Aizen in the SS arc (Hitsu and Koma) turn out so different in the end (Hitsu now apparently can defeat the third espada, and Komamura's greatest victory is against a fraccion).




Anyhow, to the spoilers themselves. I love how the spoiler translator just said flat out that nothing happened to move the plot along. But then again, it's true.

To the actual content, Hitsu gets more page time, what a surprise Kubo...

Komamura gets owned again, what a surprise Kubo...

Aizen does nothing and still is unscathed, what a surprise Kubo...

[vizardichigo]

Wow...For people that hate this boring stupid, slow manga you are every week and talk about it alot....:D Anyway, i think things are going pretty well ATM..Ichigo has finally made his way here, he is looking for an opening and the captains and vizards are trying to gang bang Aizen...All in all it aint to bad..Yes it is slow, but atleast things are moving, even if slowly...From the spoilers it seems Aizen has gone berserk on SS and the vizards and cutting people down from all sides...Fantastic...Gin also says what i was thinking, that Aizen cannot just have KS and be this strong..He seems to be PWNING without it ATM which is nice to see...Looks like a cool chapter with Gin doing the commentary and all...

[CBlitz]

hahahaha this chapter is pretty satisfying for all the Aizen fanboys out there, loved how Gin said that KS doesn't really make a difference when fighting Aizen...

damn he took out 4 characters, 2 of which were Vizards...

without masks, seriously, why don't they charge at full power instead of dicking around with Shikais?

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

He cut Komamura's Bankai sword in half and cut his hand off!?
Then again Koma's sword was already slightly cracked from Tousen

[stevens41]

hahahaha this chapter is pretty satisfying for all the Aizen fanboys out there, loved how Gin said that KS doesn't really make a difference when fighting Aizen...

damn he took out 4 characters, 2 of which were Vizards...

without masks, seriously, why don't they charge at full power instead of dicking around with Shikais? My guess is that they [meaning the good guys] have not realized Aizen's true strenght as of yet. Once they realize that going half way is not going to get them anywhere, we might see some real flighting going on [if Kubo had the guts of course].

[benelori]

The pic of Aizen cuttin down Koma is great...I can't wait to see the rest of the pages...awesome fight this is

[facade]

was gin just referring to the fact that aizen reached the peak of his shinigami powers and the rest can't compare to that or does he have some ability that the rest don't know anything about..

[vizardichigo]

hahahaha this chapter is pretty satisfying for all the Aizen fanboys out there, loved how Gin said that KS doesn't really make a difference when fighting Aizen...

damn he took out 4 characters, 2 of which were Vizards...

without masks, seriously, why don't they charge at full power instead of dicking around with Shikais?

I agree...Idk what the hell they are waiting on to go full power....Bankai + hollow mask and go at him...I dont get what is keeping them back...But yeah it would be a good chapter if you like Aizen...I am just glad to see him doing some PWNING without KS, shows he is a balanced fighter not just relies on his zanpaktou...I wonder if Kubo is having Aizen go on this little rampage in order to setup a Aizen V Yama jii battle???

[Sparkling Chidori]

Well yea, that chapter was about showing off Aizen's strength without his shikai, its a shame, cos we already knew this to be honest.

Gin is just simply watching from the side because he knows Aizen doesn't need help.

[DARK]

He cut Komamura's Bankai sword in half and cut his hand off!?
Then again Koma's sword was already slightly cracked from Tousen

The only excuse I'll give Komamura is that he and his Bankai are worn down from the fight against Tousen. However, I still think that Aizen would have done the same thing even if Komamura was at full strength.
Since the injuries inflicted on the Bankai are reflected back to Komamura, it really shouldn't take that much effort from Aizen to finish him off. Then again, Aizen's weakness is that he rarely finishes off a beaten opponent.

[Mad_Hatter]

I wanted some kuoraku action, seems to me he is the only one along with shinji from the group that can actually do something against aizen (ukitake,unohana and old man yama excluded).It would be could if the pace was a bit quicker, but we cant do anything about it, can we?

[jaymizzo]

Kubo Is Trolling Period..
I mean.. Why did Aizen Go through the trouble of Going to Hueco Mundo Etc, If he can take out 4 people without a sweat!? and all of them are captains..? :facepalm

Honestly, If Aizen Cant take out 4 people like this, i wonder WTF is gonna beat him.. Coz this is EPIC bullshit!! YES BULLSHIT..
Kubo Proves that all those Arcs have been pointless beyond compare, He jus showd Aizen own People without Struggling.. TBH i dont see why he dint jus anihilate everyone in SS if its this easy for him.. I mean, why waste his reatsu on Making Espada!? :mad

Kubo Is Seriously Trolling this manga.. The japanese should do what most people do, Hold off buying manga and see how happy kubo will be with his sucky pace..
I mean, If KS is nuthing compared to Aizens Actual Strength? then is there any hope?
Kubo is running out of options.. Its Either He uses a Massive D-E-M or he jus ends the manga with Aizen as God..
Coz, WTF is a Shikai that works on you 24/7 even after the user reseales and re uses his sword!!?.. And wtf do u call Someone being able to Take on 4 Captain Class opponents as if they were jus Episode 1 hollows?

Not impressd kubo.. not impressd

[niblack89]

Ok this chapter just showed that to Aizen all the other captains powers are like VC against a full blown captain. 2 things Why wont they all go bankai at once and attack they keep getting cut up is their fault your captain class so you have the ability to use bankai and the visords could use their mask and where the hell is head captain?

I hate that the author is afraid to show everyone's trump cards. It's starting to piss me off. The dam manga isn't going no where. Where is Yoruichi, Isshin and Kisuke. We get it lord Aizen is god Speed it up already. I'm sorry I don't really complain like this but I want some new development, new attacks, new surprises. I'm only watching it because I like his drawing style but I wont stop watching cause sometimes it gets really interesting and mind bottling. but goes back to the same slum.

[vizardichigo]

I wanted some kuoraku action, seems to me he is the only one along with shinji from the group that can actually do something against aizen (ukitake,unohana and old man yama excluded).It would be could if the pace was a bit quicker, but we cant do anything about it, can we?

Yeah Kubo suckered us by thinking that we may be getting some Aizen V Kyoraku action...Guess not...Anyway seeing Aizen PWN Rose and Koma was pretty bad ass...Hopefully he does the same to Toshiro next week...I mean we saw him attack first then he just lays back...Shunsui as well, he was seen on the early pages of the chapter yet he didnt attack, probably waiting for a moment to catch him from behind again...

[kkck]

Good god there wasn't any aizen vs koraku lol, kyoraku would have get pawned very easily and I'd hate for that to happen to him.

I think it gets clearer and clearer just how strong aizen is. Is not like the manga hasn't repeatedly make it clear aizen is above the overall captain class (as in stronger than ANY captain) though. Dunno what ichigo is gonna do here, certainly he lacks the power to fight aizen. I think ichigo will interfere in the fight with his mask on and be once again taken over by his inner hollow. otherwise I don't see what he could possibly do.

[benelori]

I think he left for HM, to experiment peacefully with the hougyoku...seeing this amount of strength I somehow tend to think that the Royal Guard will be introduced(something I don't want to)

[Rainl]

I wonder if Kubo is having Aizen go on this little rampage in order to setup a Aizen V Yama jii battle???

Which was made evident to me the moment he had the captains/vizards group up against him and Yamamoto wasn't included. However, he should be careful not to prolong Yamamoto's appearance too much, because after a while, the readers will lose the anticipation for Yamamoto's intervention and instead get frustrated at him for not coming already. Not an easy thing to do though, that's for sure.

I'm sure he understands that fight is one of, if not THE most sought after fight in Bleach. So obviously he's going to hold off on it. Regardless if it's logical to the plot or not. Kubo puts characters before plot. He said so in an interview.

People need to understand that Yamamoto not fighting with Aizen right now has absolutely nothing to do with the story itself, he's simply setting up the tone for the readers. Had he grouped Yamamoto with the group people would have simply said, "Oh, Yamamoto's there too? Nice." Now take him out of the group and have them go alone. Aizen begins to pwn all of them and people go, "Where's Yamamoto?!??!". See how much more suspenseful the latter is? That scenario doesn't pertain to the story at all, it's just Kubo trying to make things more exciting for the readers.

[Corghan]

I don't know anybody noticed Kubo-sensei has HAND and ARM FETISH. Recently a lot of character lost their arms, but before that begin with chad,grimmjow,noitora....even ichigo's arm was broken...

[conn-man]

wow this is some good shit, really good, this is what last weeks chapter should have been.

i remember some people who were saying that aizen wouldnt be able to one shot captains and vizard captains, well here it is.

finally we know what gin is doing and hes actully showing some emotion. looks like gin truley admires aizen, this means that we're getting closer to learning gins true motives for following aizen.

[Weapon_X]

This is probably one of the best chapters I'm gonna read in this arc lol just because it's Aizen pawning these captains with a few slashes. And this isn't even a serious Aizen! Gin commenting his powers is incredible... just what the hell is Aizen? I know he is a Shinigami but, wtf?

[zoefdehaas]

This chapter doesn't look too bad at all, good to see Gin again.
Tousen was a loyal servant, but Gin is not only loyal, but a true admirer. Hopefully he will prove his worth when he fights.
Wonder if Kyouraku and Hirako will double team Aizen in their shikais later on..reverse games? That's tough :P

[ThaGreatOne]

I seem to recall some people saying Aizen wasn't strong enough to beat these fodder....wonder where these people are now? Although the plot didn't move anywhere and Kubo put some Gin fanservice at least one villain looks somewhat threatening lol

[Pavitre]

nothing suprising in this coming chapter just like Naruto

of course Aizen's KS ability is not the dangerous part about him, and all the ppl who have seen the recent filler arc will agree, there are ways to beat it

The main part is his mastery of the basic abilities a shinigami possess, he's excelled in that, plus he's kill from the get go and cunning on top of that

I mean he cut down former captains like nothing when he himself is much younger than they are

[THM Nindo]

Well, the plot didn't move a lot, but it's still an interesting chapter!
We can finally see head on Aizen's ability!

Managing to cut Komamaru and Rose is good, but if he manage to downed Shunsui in a one-shot attack in next chapter, now I'm going to be really impressed! :tem

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

i really don't care wut anyone sais i still doubt that Aizen could 1 shot or own any of the senior Captains "or top tier characters".
i'm not saying that they could win in a 1 on 1 fight infact that chapter proves that they most likely couldn't win in a 1 ON 1 FIGHT but still there is a reason why kubo is saving them.
notice how Shunsui is just setting back observing while everyone else is getting owned.
do you honestly think that a elder Captain like Shunsui who has prolly been in more battles then any shinigami "minus Yammamotto" wouldn't have a plan to fight Aizen.
Shunsui may not be as smart as Aizen but i think he is just as cunning and despit popular belief i don't think that Aizen is WAY stronger then Shunsui,Yammamotto,Unohana or Ukitake.
he will never be able to own those characters like some of you say.
but he can beat them but not without trouble and i gurantee that Shunsui and Shinji together could definetly give him trouble.
as someone else said having to play reverse Games with the combined effort of both there shikai's even Aizen will have trouble.

[leshrak]

Cut down Koma with one shot is far from impressing (IMO)...i mean, he did the same thing back in SS arc...like THM Nindo said, if Aisen does the same with Shunsui, or maybe Hirako, that would be impressive.

Hope Gin starts to act next chapter!!!! Maybe destroy some pillars (that's why they are fighting after all...)

[Rotten The Wizard]

every week its like this:
You go to the One Piece section and theres definite excitement there, same as the naruto section but once you hit the bleach section its like.......oh yea more of aizen literally being a god. All the captains put together cant touch him.

I would actually accept this if it was made clear how a VC all of a sudden turned GOD

and oh yea, this time around its Gin sucking on his nuts. great

[THM Nindo]

That would be hilarious...
If after all this battle, suddenly just appear and say : «It's done!»

And the shinigami look down and see that the pillars were destroyed and that Karakura town has been totally destroyed just like Aizen wanted :tem

---

Hey, do you guys think that Kubo will remember that the 1st V-C disappeared?
I wonder if this guy is really doing something, or if Kubo just totally forgot about him... :tem

[superman97]

Maybe we are actually about to see Aizen win... it would be cool to see a nice set up of only Ichigo, Kisuke, Youroichi, and Isshin taking on Aizen and Gin and WW in the next arc.

[After_Image]

Looks like it's a pretty good looking chapter; At least we know where Gin is at. He knows not to get in Aizen's way and just sit still.

[Franckie]

I still can't believe Kubo will actually have Aizen & Gin solo half of the Gotei 13 and Vizards by themselves... :facepalm

[THM Nindo]

I still can't believe Kubo will actually have Aizen & Gin solo half of the Gotei 13 and Vizards by themselves... :facepalm

Corrected.

We always knew that Aizen was a God...
It's about time that it's made clear to everyone...

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

I still can't believe Kubo will actually have Aizen & Gin solo half of the Gotei 13 and Vizards by themselves... :facepalm
no kubo isn't THAT stupid dude.
untill Aizen and Gin moves on the bigger fish like Yammamotto,Shunsui,Ukitake,Unohana,and Shinji and beat them i refuse to believe that will happen.
hell Aizen hasn't even engaged in a proper battle with Shunsui yet so its to early to assume that he and Gin along with wonderweiss will win this battle since Yammamotto hasn't done shit since he owned Allon.
as everyone else pointed out untill he owns the likes of Shunsui or Shinji i will not be impressed.

[SmellsLikeTeenSh!t]

The whole war is totally useless. Aizen could have killed everyone from the beginning, same as Yama could've killed all espada on his own. Thats why Bleach is f*ck*d up at the moment. Since Ichigo killed Ulquiorra nothing big happend. And it was 50 chapters ago or so:facepalm thank god One Piece is good.

[Quetzal]

390 chapters into the series...:facepalm

Anyway, why does Koma have to be the first to get ownt? We are not getting any closer to finding out anything btw. It doesn't take 390 chapters to explain why Gin follows Aizen, or any of the other many questions that have been in the air since forever. All we get in this chapter is that Koma is weak, though I love his cuddly fox ass, and Aizen is a god.... what a revelation!

[THM Nindo]

Yeah... the whole Espada thing took a full year, and in the end, it was nothing...
Only a mean for Kubo to show some shinigami's power...

Plot-wise, it was useless...
Since Aizen was able to do it by himself from the very beginning...

And I hope Yama-ji has a good reason for doing nothing since the beginning...
Other than «Well, I can't do everything everytime... those youngsters need to train and fight...» or shit like that...

[SmellsLikeTeenSh!t]

Yeah... the whole Espada thing took a full year, and in the end, it was nothing...
Only a mean for Kubo to show some shinigami's power...

Plot-wise, it was useless...
Since Aizen was able to do it by himself from the very beginning...

And I hope Yama-ji has a good reason for doing nothing since the beginning...
Other than «Well, I can't do everything everytime... those youngtsers need to train and fight...» or shit like that...


Haha that would be awesome!! I would stop reading Bleach if this is Kubos explanation why the strongest shinigami we know so far, does not fight :))

[kweci]

wow, i like where this is heading... i don't think anyone wants too many cooks in the kitchen, so whoever can't stand the heat needs to get the f out. I say get rid of Hitsu, Koma, Soifon (whom i love to death), Rose, Love, Ichigo, any VCs etc in the least demeaning way (cuz i still like them as characters and there's no need to render them useless for all eternity) and have an all out with the strongest characters in the battle. I'd love to see an Aizen v. shinji, shunsui and Ukitake battle push aizen to something other than shikai, and then see yama and unohana just come in calmly, release their swords, and show us how they spank misbehaving kids back into shape (like yama said he would with uki +shun back in SS) that forces aizen to do something other than bitch-slap whatever comes his way. If that battle ends with aizen winning, good, he must have deserved it, and it'll be a great challenge for urahara/ isshin and co to surmount.

on the flip side, kubo reestablishing aizen's prowess could mean he is setting him up to fail miserably at the hands of someone/something completely unexpected. I guess i am still hoping for another villain/ power-house or at the very least a 3rd camp that has a different agenda than these 2.

For the people complaining about pacing, try this. Take your favorite action movie and imagine making it into a manga. Do you see the talking (i.e. plot progression) taking a lot less panels than the epic fights (unless you choose to lose details that contribute to said epicness)? now imagine you stfu and just let kubo do his thing instead of wasting the first 4 pages of every spoiler thread with your irrelevant comments. seriously, you're turning the discussion threads into shit.

[Zehahaha]

Impressive... This is the birth of the most powerful character in Bleach ! I don't even think that Yamaji could stop Aizen, this is truly terrifiying...

[Xerneas]

I am so freaking glad Kubo Tite is going out of his way to prove to everyone that Aizen is incredible without his so-called "hax" ability. Yes, he had to hammer it in because there are many ignorant people out there who doubt Aizen's strength. Despite the fact that he mastered the 4 Shinigami Arts (-_-). First the epic display against Ichigo, and now finally some Captains getting cut down (they won't die of course but this is good enough for me). To me this is plot progression (albeit slow), because Aizen is getting closer to his goal. Whether he succeeds or not is irrelevant. Compare this to the top 3 Espada fights which was just a big time wasting excercise. It was like they didn't even exist cause the overall plot didn't move.

Anyway, too bad that Sajin must once again look the worst, but whatever. At this rate I guess Aizen vs Yama-jii might happen after all. But it still annoys me that Gin isn't doing anything. Apparently, even he is in admiration of the glorious power of Aizen-sama. So really, I don't see anything to put him above the Boss. Thus he should be fighting first, unless Aizen just has that many tricks up his sleeve and Kubo is simply giving us a teaser.

PS. Lol @ Hitsugaya. He totally ignored Shunsui, like I predicted. It seems that he has a death get-beat-up-but-not-die wish. >_>

[SenninSage]

What I love about this is that they are finally allowing Aizen's true abilities to speak for themselves.

No more cleverly avoiding battle or leaving the scene at exactly the moment things become troublesome for him. It's good to see how much of a monster he truly is. So then it really does seem that Ichigo not having seeen Kyokasuigetsu's release ultimately doesn't amount to that much before Aizen's incredible abilities.

Gin is saying that Aizen's abilities are different from everyone else's. Well then how the hell about Yamajii, why the heck doesn't he get involved in this battle and show everyone just how incredibly powerful he is. It annoys me to no end how he hasn't decided to step in for real as of yet. I think Kubo's time for holding him back is totally at an end. He has no other choice, but to eventually allow Yamajii to fight, or will Shunsui use his Ban Kai?

[Brklynty1]

I'm so fucking glad now. This finally shuts down the comments on how Aizen would get pwned without his shikai. As gin said "if aizen on relied on Kyouka Suigetsu, there would be many who could defeat him." You people actually thought Aizen was crazy when he said he mastered every part of being a shinigami? NO! Aizen is by far the best anime villan ever.

[gh0un]

I'm so fucking glad now. This finally shuts down the comments on how Aizen would get pwned without his shikai. As gin said "if aizen on relied on Kyouka Suigetsu, there would be many who could defeat him." You people actually thought Aizen was crazy when he said he mastered every part of being a shinigami? NO! Aizen is by far the best anime villan ever.

I agree completely except for Aizen mastering every part of being a shinigami.
Im pretty sure not even Aizen has reached that limit yet, at least not in the ss arc.

Remember the following?:

Gin: Since when are you able to use a 90 kidou without incantation?
Aizen: No it failed, it did not even reach 1/3 of its full potential.

This obviously indicates that even Aizen still hasnt reached the limit (as he used a new move that Gin didnt see him use yet)

Hes probably very close to the limit though --> he starts experimenting with hollowfication

[Pride~]

Hitsugaya tries to lecture Aizen about fighting/being a captain/... in the past 2 chapters. That´s just ridiculous considering the power gap between Aizen and him. Aizen is the one who can lecture Hitsugaya but not the opposite.

[Junior]

Lol, I think the story had a little progression.

It wasn't as moving as some would have hoped but it got a lot across.

It has now been completely verified that Aizen is not like the big-headed wizard in the Wizard of Oz. He's not all smoke 'n mirrors and illusions.

That was probably obvious to some people but, honestly, there were some people that believed everything Aizen did was related to his release. This shuts them up.

I think this chapter also reveals how stupid Hitsugaya and the other Gotei 13 Captains are.

If Aizen has you under complete hypnosis, why would you believe that you're safe at any point in time? Seriously.

"Lol as long as we dont see aizen release then we're fine"

but oh wait, Aizen controls your visual senses. GJ.

[Bolshoi Hui]

I still can't believe Kubo will actually have Aizen & Gin solo half of the Gotei 13 and Vizards by themselves... :facepalm


And what's bad with them taking down half of Visards and Gotei captains? That's ridiculous. People expect every good character to make the main villain lose a limb or what.

[gh0un]

Hitsugaya tries to lecture Aizen about fighting/being a captain/... in the past 2 chapters. That´s just ridiculous considering the power gap between Aizen and him. Aizen is the one who can lecture Hitsugaya but not the opposite.

Absolutely!
Hitsugaya should be immediately struck down by a lightning bolt thrown by Zeus, for being a smartass that tries to lecture Aizen about things he doesnt know shit about himself.

Wth is he thinking, seriously.
Hitsugaya: "I wont give you time to release Kyoka Suigetsu"
--> well said smartass, the only problem is that he controls your senses, including eyesight.
He might have released his sword long ago and youre still spouting meat about how you wont give him time, while he is playing with your balls.
What an ignorant fool

[Yans86]

Lol,Hitsu is really there for the lolZ.....
The last 3 chapters should be called "WORDS JUST PWNS U!1 2 3" :-P
Guess how strong is Gin if Aizen actually has always seen him as his only VC and he was also impressed by his strenght.......(The word that Hitsu doesn'ìt understand,lol!!!)

[ShaunMati1]

Although i knew from the start of seeing aizen own hitso and ichigo the first time around, kubo has made it very clear that aizen is pretty much unbeatable. Although we are talking about Koma and Histu and rose in this chapter, remember these are captains of the gotie 13 (with the exceptiong of Rose being a former captain). So aizens powers are different from everyone elses...how? I understand he mastered the 4 shingami arts, but how is that different from someone who hasnt mastered them other then the fact that they havent perfected it. IDK maybe im missing something about that, but with that aside im glad in a way kubo is showing aizen as the true god he really is. Its hard for me to think of someone to beat him cause what was it like...5 on 1 so far and it hasnt even flustered him.

[conn-man]

i still cant believe that kubo chose to have komamura continue fighting after what tousen did to him let alone have him get double tapped by aizen like that. catching roses whip was very badass imo, and rose was an interesting choice to be aizens second victim.

with such a powerful display from aizen right now i have to wonder, what exactly is yammy going to be capable of next time we see him?

[Zatono]

I agree completely except for Aizen mastering every part of being a shinigami.
Im pretty sure not even Aizen has reached that limit yet, at least not in the ss arc.

Remember the following?:

Gin: Since when are you able to use a 90 kidou without incantation?
Aizen: No it failed, it did not even reach 1/3 of its full potential.

This obviously indicates that even Aizen still hasnt reached the limit (as he used a new move that Gin didnt see him use yet)

Hes probably very close to the limit though --> he starts experimenting with hollowfication

No, I believe you're mistaken about the potential thing. Aizen said that every Shinigami has limits, but each Shinigami has their own individual limit they hit, because if they didn't, then what's stopping other Shinigami from just training somewhere for thousands of years until they're all Aizen level.

The reason for the hollowfication was so that he could surpass his own limits, since he stated he already capped his Shinigami ones.

[conn-man]

i think hitsuguya is using a new named bankai attack, i think this is the 5th one now to. that would make him the character with the most named attacks, kinda displays what a little kid he still actully is.

[Razeus]

i think hitsuguya is using a new named bankai attack, i think this is the 5th one now to. that would make him the character with the most named attacks, kinda displays what a little kid he still actully is.
Speaking on that I notice his bankai has alot of uses ,but all and all its basically ice which has alot of uses ,but once again smoke and mirrors if you think about. The problem I have with it is that Kubo makes it inconsistent and such like weakeness and such.

1. It takes a long time to prep 1000 year ice prison.

2. He can only use the ice clone once.

Those the only two noted so far if I'm missing some let me know. I just wish the flower limit was kept into play when it was first displayed so that way it would show that even he has limits ,but looking at things now he can go into bankai after battling a espada like nothing.

I don't hate him Toshiro as a character he just has so many flaws that make him seem as a gary stu and such.

Edit: on the subject Sosuke he displayed one of the best tactics to use in a war. "Use the other person knowledge to your advantage" Everyone thought he will use KS on them since they know about its powers ,but sosuke planned ahead he got that fear instilled in them that if he uses KS their done for so their trying to stop him from using it thus being to rash like they suppose to. While sosuke is just using his latent abilites to defeat them and just like gin stated they don't know the truth on his powers. He basically mind screwed them and it's working ,but they don't realize it.

[ShaunMati1]

I agree completely except for Aizen mastering every part of being a shinigami.
Im pretty sure not even Aizen has reached that limit yet, at least not in the ss arc.

Remember the following?:

Gin: Since when are you able to use a 90 kidou without incantation?
Aizen: No it failed, it did not even reach 1/3 of its full potential.

This obviously indicates that even Aizen still hasnt reached the limit (as he used a new move that Gin didnt see him use yet)

Hes probably very close to the limit though --> he starts experimenting with hollowfication

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/13/
I think this should rectify things, aizen has definitely reached not only his own but the actual limits of a shinigami. and there is the reason why black coffin didnt work properly, he skipped the incantation which has proven to make the kidou power absolute, meaning its full power.

[kkck]

I think this chapter is meant to destroy the notion that SS is cornered because of kyoka suigetsu. Most, if not all, captains seem to be under the notion that the reason aizen has the upperhand in this war is because of his zampakuto. This chapter is prove that aizen is so absurdly overpowered that he can take on a bunch of captains at once(including two bankais) and not break a sweat. Hell, even kyoraku's attack was blocked with a chantless spell -that was previous chapter though-.

Aizen does not need KK to defeat the captains even if they gang up on him. The fact that it is there is merely overkill. Only plot twist I could see at this point which could result in aizen being at least matched is that ichigo is taken over by his inner hollow. I think it could have a chance considering it did to ulquiorra in his segunda etapa what aizen is doing to the captains.

[daman246]

kubo did a good job making aizen extremely powerfull,this is a first that a villain is so strong he beats the crap out of the main people in the series over and over,

and hitsu should learn from aizen frm the first encounter he got hes ass handed to him

[ryanzokuken]

did Rose really just get one shotted?

not that i object to the fact that Aizen is able to do that to him. i'm just annoyed and the lack of bankai and mask usage from the vaizards. we have to see them get dropped without showing us everything they have, but we couldn't skip all that espada shit at least once by having one die before releasing?

you're attacking Aizen himself now. this is the big show. time for reserving your mask time or holding back from using your bankai power is over. come on.

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

I think this chapter is meant to destroy the notion that SS is cornered because of kyoka suigetsu. Most, if not all, captains seem to be under the notion that the reason aizen has the upperhand in this war is because of his zampakuto. This chapter is prove that aizen is so absurdly overpowered that he can take on a bunch of captains at once(including two bankais) and not break a sweat. Hell, even kyoraku's attack was blocked with a chantless spell -that was previous chapter though-.

Aizen does not need KK to defeat the captains even if they gang up on him. The fact that it is there is merely overkill. Only plot twist I could see at this point which could result in aizen being at least matched is that ichigo is taken over by his inner hollow. I think it could have a chance considering it did to ulquiorra in his segunda etapa what aizen is doing to the captains.
but ulquarra is only the 4th espada dude so Ichigo's hollow owning him hardly compares if he would have owned someone of Shunsui's or Yammamotto's calibur of power.
hell if it could own Stark or Barragan i would consider it a match for Aizen but at this point not even Ichigo's super hollow form would be enough to beat Aizen despite wut he did the the 4th espada.

[Pavitre]

This is the 5th time I'm saying this

Where the hell is Ukitake???

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

This is the 5th time I'm saying this

Where the hell is Ukitake???
dude incase you have forgotton Ukitake got impaled by wonderweiss and is prolly laying somewhere on the ground waiting to get healed by Unohana lol

[kweci]

he was 2nd in line for healing, that is unless koma is closer to death than uki (doubt it, he takes punishment pretty well)... at the rate aizen is going, i'm starting to wonder if unohana can ever join this battle... she'll just be healing ppl in circles, lol...

[Rainl]

did Rose really just get one shotted?

not that i object to the fact that Aizen is able to do that to him. i'm just annoyed and the lack of bankai and mask usage from the vaizards. we have to see them get dropped without showing us everything they have, but we couldn't skip all that espada shit at least once by having one die before releasing?

you're attacking Aizen himself now. this is the big show. time for reserving your mask time or holding back from using your bankai power is over. come on.

Many people have suggested the same, but it wouldn't make a difference. Why? Because Kensei has already explained that mask-time corresponds to the level of strength your opponent is at, meaning against incredibly powerful opponents, it'll only last for moments.

Their mask would only last a few moments at best against someone of Aizen's caliber, so it doesn't pay to expend the extra reiatsu to use the mask, but only for them to have it crumble away in mere seconds.

This would also explain why Shinji removed his mask immediately before he slashed Aizen that first time.

[zerocooldx]

Lmfao this entire battle, and even the war, got built up to stopping Kyouka Suigetsu, and that doing so would be the only way to defeat Aizen. Yet we suddenly fine out that Kyouka Suigetsu is but a tiny sliver of Aizen's overall power. No one has even been able to touch this guy the entire series, so pathetic plot wise.

[conn-man]

This is the 5th time I'm saying this

Where the hell is Ukitake???

he'll be back at the right time, i expect it to be a triumphunt return. he'll either go take on wonderwiess once he becomes to much for kensei or once shunsui attacks aizen the second time he might jump in and they could do their double team, if it was enough to keep yamamoto at bay then it should be enough to fight aizen.

[Zatono]

No one has even been able to touch this guy the entire series, so pathetic plot wise.

Shinji says yo, but I get your point. Aizen is way to over powered, still. I really don't understand why he had to go through such a roundabout way of trying to get to the RG. The Espada? Useless. What was the point of the arrancar? Just to take up chapters? This is ridiculous. Urahara and his gang should just show up to curb stomp Aizen and Gin already.

[ryanzokuken]

Many people have suggested the same, but it wouldn't make a difference. Why? Because Kensei has already explained that mask-time corresponds to the level of strength your opponent is at, meaning against incredibly powerful opponents, it'll only last for moments.

Their mask would only last a few moments at best against someone of Aizen's calibur, so it doesn't pay to expend the extra reiatsu to use the mask, but only for them to have it crumble away in mere seconds.

This would also explain why Shinji removed his mask immediately before he slashed Aizen that first time.

yes, i got that whole deal.

but wouldn't it make sense to at least TRY with all you've got?
you can either be cut down with absolute ease without bankai or mask, or you can be probably cut down with slightly less ease with bankai and/or mask.
may as well throw it all out there. it's Aizen. there's nothing after him to reserve yourself for.

[mr.danly]

Shinji says yo, but I get your point. Aizen is way to over powered, still. I really don't understand why he had to go through such a roundabout way of trying to get to the RG. The Espada? Useless. What was the point of the arrancar? Just to take up chapters? This is ridiculous. Urahara and his gang should just show up to curb stomp Aizen and Gin already.

agreed. What the hell. The espada were useless chapter-wasters. We could've skipped about 150 chapters of absolutely no plot-advancement if the Espada had just been killed off like the useless pieces of crap they are. Why bother getting underlings if you can singlehandedly murder all of Soul Society?

[Weapon_X]

I hope Aizen seriously wins this battle, the Captains are pathetic. They should have all followed Aizen's learning methods lol I predict Soi Fon and Love go down next chapter, then Shunsui and Shinji step in.

[Xerous]

yes, i got that whole deal.

but wouldn't it make sense to at least TRY with all you've got?
you can either be cut down with absolute ease without bankai or mask, or you can be probably cut down with slightly less ease with bankai and/or mask.
may as well throw it all out there. it's Aizen. there's nothing after him to reserve yourself for.

because he would have to focus on that character and as you can see he's trying to remove them from the scene:amuse

[Pavitre]

dude incase you have forgotton Ukitake got impaled by wonderweiss and is prolly laying somewhere on the ground waiting to get healed by Unohana lol

ah I know that, my point was for someone like him to go out like that and not show a tiny bit of his condition at all

Idk if the guy's sick and whatever assumptions ppl have about WW, we freakin havent seen anything yet

The guy is still to be reckoned with being a high lvl captain and all, either hes still playing or Kubo has failed him as a char wiht all the hype surrounding him

[roggie]

but ulquarra is only the 4th espada dude so Ichigo's hollow owning him hardly compares if he would have owned someone of Shunsui's or Yammamotto's calibur of power.
hell if it could own Stark or Barragan i would consider it a match for Aizen but at this point not even Ichigo's super hollow form would be enough to beat Aizen despite wut he did the the 4th espada.

I desagree, from what i remember, not even aizen knew about ulquiorra second form, so it could be possible he was the most powerful espada just didn't get the lowest numer.

[nokozon]

All the captains will go down, with Kyoraku lasting the longest. None will die though, of course.

Ichigo will be left looking around at all the defeated captains, and then shit his pants. Just when it is obvious that he is in so far over his head that he is incomprehensibly doomed, he will go "super hollow ichigo" or whatever you guys call him (Ichigonator?) to either defeat or stalemate Aizen into retreat. Yoru/Kisuke may or may not show up to help Ichigo in some manner.

Yamamoto will continue to stand around uselessly, like the asshat he is.

Unohana is too busy to fight, but may exchange some words with Aizen before he leaves just like last time.

[Evil3ye]

I like Hitsugaya's look in the first picture. I'm glad he realized he is no match for Aizen after all (didn't he? lol). However all those captains trolling are a little bit too much afterall. Kubo totally should have left some of them to be taken out by the Espada. IMO it's a shame he saved them just to be hacked by Aizen randomly :notrust

[DARK]

Well, at least Kubo is doing something close to the Shinigami Massacre idea...
But why does it take such a long time just for Aizen to defeat them if he's so powerful?

[drakend]

I think one question is legit at this point: what's the point of this arrancar arc?
I mean it seems Aizen can beat evreyone on his own, so what's the point of creating the Espada and such? :facepalm
He's owning people in bankai and in shikai WITHOUT even Kyouka Suigetsu: that's just too much. :s
I can already see him using his shikai when people releases their bankai... and for Yamamoto there is Aizen's bankai. Aizen will become 10x more powerful! LOL! WTF?!? :facepalm
The Royal Arc will be be pointless too I fear: vaizard mask plus resurrection plus bankai... :darn

[Grekaosangel]

I think one question is legit at this point: what's the point of this arrancar arc?
I mean it seems Aizen can beat evreyone on his own, so what's the point of creating the Espada and such? :facepalm
He's owning people in bankai and in shikai WITHOUT even Kyouka Suigetsu: that's just too much. :s
I can already see him using his shikai when people releases their bankai... and for Yamamoto there is Aizen's bankai. Aizen will become 10x more powerful! LOL! WTF?!? :facepalm
The Royal Arc will be be pointless too I fear: vaizard mask plus resurrection plus bankai... :darn

At this point, the only person we've seen reach an insane level with hollowification is Ichigo, sure Tousen had ressurection, but Ichigo is the only one to still rely or use his Zanpakuto. Which makes me think, that Aizen may not ever reach the perfection that Ichigo has...

[drakend]

At this point, the only person we've seen reach an insane level with hollowification is Ichigo, sure Tousen had ressurection, but Ichigo is the only one to still rely or use his Zanpakuto. Which makes me think, that Aizen may not ever reach the perfection that Ichigo has...
That's not certain, I mean Tousen may have been one of the latest experments with the hogyoku and Aizen learnt how to keep one's sword when you hybridize him.
Another thing: it's likely Ichigonator may be killed by an unreleased Aizen as well... :s

[Grekaosangel]

That's not certain, I mean Tousen may have been one of the latest experments with the hogyoku and Aizen learnt how to keep one's sword when you hybridize him.
Another thing: it's likely Ichigonator may be killed by an unreleased Aizen as well... :s

Eh, we haven't seen that form fight anything other than Ulquiorra. Won't know until we see it again.

[Trotter]

Why wouldn't Aizen go out and build an army? That's a LOT smarter then just going through and taking out all the Captains earlier. Why? Maybe you guys missed it, but every Captain isn't even close to their full Strength. For gods sake, Komamura has a massive hole in him and he's still fighting. Of course he wouldn't be able to attack with everything he had. Starrk managed to OWN Rose and Love, and at the moment none of the Vaizard can really use their mask because they used that all up trying to beat the Espada. Its only natural for Aizen to be able to tank through them now, even if they are Captain-Class, they can't possibly be at their full power in a situation like this.

[Ramirez]

I personally loved this chapter. The early spoilers always summarize the chapters way too briefly and don't really focus on all the action.

I don't really have any complaints about how bleach is moving, i think there has been sufficient action throughout this arc to keep peoples attention. All of the battles have been really cool and intense the dialogue has been well written.

I thought Gin's speech was incredible and that Kubo really put the character to good use. Unohana, the other captains (and im sure a lot of the readers) have seen Ichigo as the trump card against Aizen simply because he hasn't seen his shikai. But here Gin clearly says that Aizens might does not lie solely with kyoka suigetsu, this builds a lot of suspense for the upcoming chapters.

I was a little bummed to see Rose go down though, he's always been my favorite of the vizard (visored? vaizard?) and i would have liked to see him put up a better fight

[exacta]

I think what we are forgetting here is that all of the people fighting Aizen have sustained previous injuries from the Espada, Ichigo even pointed that out when they arrived to protect him. It is likely that these injuries are contributing to the edge Aizen has right now, so I wouldn't say they were worthless at all. He's only beaten Koma, who always gets his ass kicked, and Rose, who was only in shikai, and both got messed up in their previous fights. Plus, Hitsu isn't that strong either, for a captain. He has great potential, but in a situation like this, you need to be solid.Aizen has yet to take out an uber strong captain whose in perfect condition. Unless Yamamoto gets off his ass, but looks like he'll play the general to the end.....


On one note, I like how Gin points out that if Kyokasuigetsu was all Aizen had, there were would be several people who could kill him. Turns the whole "lolKyokasuigetsukthanxbai" thing down a notch. Also shows that Aizen is just a beast, I remember reading comments saying Aizen would be nothing without Kyokasuigetsu. It'd be nice if Gin actually DID something.

The guy who did the first spoiler really sucks. When you read his spoiler, it makes the chapter sound awful. But its actually pretty good. And yeah, Kubo seems to like to dump on Rose too......

[drakend]

Oh well Hitsugaya is a goner next chapter and should I remember you Aizen owned four captains without even releasing his shikai? :facepalm

[Takahashi]

Okay, Fox/Bear/Wolf boy! Get your shit together and stop getting your ass kicked! I've been cheering for you since the Tousen fight, and still nothing!

Komamura's Resume

Previous Experience:
Getting Black Coffin'd
Ass kicked by sound

Just now:
Komamura and Bankai cut down instantaneously by man with sealed sword

Not looking good there buddy. The only thing you're good at is being just as hard to kill as Kenpachi.

[kkck]

but ulquarra is only the 4th espada dude so Ichigo's hollow owning him hardly compares if he would have owned someone of Shunsui's or Yammamotto's calibur of power.
hell if it could own Stark or Barragan i would consider it a match for Aizen but at this point not even Ichigo's super hollow form would be enough to beat Aizen despite wut he did the the 4th espada.

Even if ulquiorra was "only fourth", he was still a captain level guy. Not to mention hollow ichigo owned him when the guy entered a second stage of release which so far seems to be a wildcard. I guess it depends on what you consider segunda etapa to be though. In all fairness, aizen right now is easily owning the very people who owned his espada or at least the ones who gave them a hard time. Kyoraku kicked the crap out of starrk (he did take a few hits) hitsugaya literally burried harribel under ice (until WW saved her). Love forced starrk to go all out considering starrk's guns were less than a diversion to him.

[Revolation]

Gin basically confirmed God Hollow Aizen

when he goes bankai, it will be

Bankai Ressurecion Aizen sama

Yeah, aizen basically has the key and is is royal dimension already.

I mean we are just going to have aizen owning everyone until he runs out of power-ups and gets owned by powered up ichigonator

[Eternal_Breath]

To sum up this chapter:

Hitsuguya calms down a bit as anger turns to determination (this may end up saving him from a beat-down for a little while)
Komamura gets cut down, probably won't see him for a while (he did good for someone with a massive hole in his chest, though I don't think he'll die)
Rose gets cut too, almost certain to still get back up (he's still got a bankai and presumably his hollow so he'll be back)
Love is probably going be pissed off next chapter (expect a non-fatal injury)
Gin is laughing his arse off in a corner somewhere, typical (he also debunks the ridiculous theory that Aizen's only strength is KS and insults anyone who believed in that to begin with :amuse)
Time passed in chapter: 5 minutes tops, most likely WAY less

All in all to me this is a fairly uneventful chapter, Bleach's pacing is starting to make Berserk's look devilishly quick :blink

[Revolation]

Wait, let me get this straight, people hated that good guys never looses, then aizen-sama pwns them and "now he's to strong". what do you want? more drawn out fights of shinigami loosing one by one(as annoyingly as the fraccion deaths) in seperate fights by aizen's illusions(cell junior rip off), and them fighting the illusions to "find the real aizen"?

Sorry, but I want pwnage as quick as possible, and when Aizen turns around I want to see Gin holding the royal dimension keys and twirling it his hand next to the pillar that was already broken, and the royal dimension gate open, with yammamoto lying in a pool of blood.
In other words, Gin owned yamma, already went to the real karakura town, through the broken pillar hole, killed everyone with a homing shinso, and a key popped out of nowhere like in mario64

In short, I want plot progression.

I really wanted the vaizards to do something more hollowish, like eat something like those menos grandes, just to show offf, and show that they really are vaizards.

[clodhopper]

Without seeing the mangastream release and just going by the spoiler pics and translation here's my thoughts on it all: Why the whole 4 years for this arc? Why didn't Aizen just pwn everyone back in SS?
As to the first: Twice in Ch. 389 we hear mention of how everyone is beat down and injured (and we can tell that the only ones not injured to some degree are currently Gin, Yamamoto, Unohana and Ichigo) so perhaps the whole deal with fighting the Espada was to weaken and seperate the forces. KT wanted us to look back and go 'Wow! Aizen is this strong without releasing his Zanpakutou and he needed everyone weakened to be able to do more damage to them.' I think that's pretty good writing right there.
To the second query: As for why he didn't pwn them all back in SS was because the only ones injured, at that time, were Komamura and Byakayu. Add to that the Gotei 13 had a nearly limitless supply of canon fodder before the Captains would have to get serious(even though they were all on scene at the time). Plus he hadn't tested the Hougyoku(sp?). Most likely he wanted to run off and test it before putting the next set of his plans in action.
Yeah, I liked this chapter. It furthers the plot. It adds to Aizen's character as well, imo, who I really didn't like as a character till now. Shows the thought that went into plotting this far by KT. I liked it.

[Eternal_Breath]

Wait, let me get this straight, people hated that good guys never looses, then aizen-sama pwns them and now he's to strong. what do you want? more drawn out fights of shinigami loosing one by one(as annoyingly as the fraccion deaths) in seperate fights by aizen's illusions(cell junior rip off), and them fighting the illusions to "find the real aizen"?

Sorry, but I want pwnage as quick as possible, and when Aizen turns around I want to see Gin holding the keys and twirling it his hand next to the pillar, with yammamoto lying in a pool of blood.
In other words, I want plot progression.

I really wanted the vaizards to do something more hollowish, like eat something like those menos grandes, just to show offf, and show that they really are vaizards.

Hah funny stuff, that's exactly what I want too, In fact I'd get a good laugh if the old geezer got off'd off-screen (I'm not evil honest :)).

Still this is Kubo we're talking about and Kubo law states that any major fight must go on for a minimum of 3 chapters before any plot progression takes place, in other words Aizen still needs to cut some fools down before we can move on. Sad but true

And in my defence I'm not complaining about the Aizen Vs. Everybody else fight either, I just think the pacing for it is too drawn out (hopefully Hitsuguya and everyone else doesn't have any more exposition so that we can speed things up a bit)

[Takahashi]

You guys seem very concerned about plot progression, but I could watch Aizen kick every ones ass for several weeks and love it. I just wish the K man wasn't the first to be on the receiving end, ugh, now if Soi Fon and Shunsui get taken out I won't even care if the others do anything...

[obamamania]

It's not a contradiction to want soul society to get owned while not wanted Aizen to do the ass-kicking...alone. Yeah, we wanted some SS casualties, not "mortal wound, then ready for bankai spam as if the injury didn't happen". But we wanted the espada to kill them because we wanted the espada to actually have a plot purpose, then we wanted Vaizards to come kill the espada, and then we wanted some sort of possibly Yama related epicness. Aizen goes through ALL of this trouble to fake his death, escape SS, create the espada, capture Orihime to lure captains to Hueco Mundo for "easy pickins'", enter a war while his 4-9 espada get owned, then watch as 1-3 die (one of which HE KILLED HIMSELF!). Now he's a god who's powerful without KS, and nobody can match him. So then wtf was all of this for, he lures away all those captains and now he has all of the vaizards there so the Orihime ploy was pointless yet he still plans to kill everyone alone. If there isn't some reason for this other than "Aizen r elite haxor" then seriously, every single action since the first time we've met Aizen has been a troll. I don't think it was intended to end this way, Kubo was forced to go in this crappy direction.

This chapter sounds like a 19 page example of why Aizen IS a god, and yet Kubo won't answer the one thing he needs to do. The question is WHY. We can only follow Bleach's progression, but we don't know any of the why's. Why is Aizen so different and why is he so evil?

[Takahashi]

It's not a contradiction to want soul society to get owned while not wanted Aizen to do the ass-kicking...alone. Yeah, we wanted some SS casualties, not "mortal wound, then ready for bankai spam as if the injury didn't happen". But we wanted the espada to kill them because we wanted the espada to actually have a plot purpose, then we wanted Vaizards to come kill the espada, and then we wanted some sort of possibly Yama related epicness. Aizen goes through ALL of this trouble to fake his death, escape SS, create the espada, capture Orihime to lure captains to Hueco Mundo for "easy pickins'", enter a war while his 4-9 espada get owned, then watch as 1-3 die (one of which HE KILLED HIMSELF!). Now he's a god who's powerful without KS, and nobody can match him. So then wtf was all of this for, he lures away all those captains and now he has all of the vaizards there so the Orihime ploy was pointless yet he still plans to kill everyone alone. If there isn't some reason for this other than "Aizen r elite haxor" then seriously, every single action since the first time we've met Aizen has been a troll. I don't think it was intended to end this way, Kubo was forced to go in this crappy direction.

This chapter sounds like a 19 page example of why Aizen IS a god, and yet Kubo won't answer the one thing he needs to do. The question is WHY. We can only follow Bleach's progression, but we don't know any of the why's. Why is Aizen so different and why is he so evil?

Who says he's evil?
The very definition of good and evil is all perspective anyway, maybe the King is evil, so he needs a good stabbing from Aizen.

The thing is, even though Aizen calls himself a god, it's a bluff, he knows he isn't immortal, making an army makes sense for a couple reasons.

1. Weakening SS, while they did a crappy job, everything is an experiment to Aizen. And honestly, if you had BARRAGAN on your team, how would you expect to lose?

2. The more he improves the hybrid process, the closer he will get to the perfect version, in which case, he can utilize it on himself once all of the fodder has served their purpose of testing it for him (Tousen for example). Aizen may be able to kick everyone's ass, but when you're powerful, you crave more.

As far as Orihime goes, it's been mentioned several times that they've done something to her, it could be some lame emotional scarring or something, but I hope it's something that comes into play later. It'd be pretty easy to hypnotize Orihime as well. Hell, he wouldn't even need his Shikai, just grab a pocket watch, she's an idiot.

And keep in mind we know nothing about Aizen because it causes us to come onto forums like this, speculate, and anticipate the next chapter.

[Revolation]

It's not a contradiction to want soul society to get owned while not wanted Aizen to do the ass-kicking...alone. Yeah, we wanted some SS casualties, not "mortal wound, then ready for bankai spam as if the injury didn't happen". But we wanted the espada to kill them because we wanted the espada to actually have a plot purpose, then we wanted Vaizards to come kill the espada, and then we wanted some sort of possibly Yama related epicness. Aizen goes through ALL of this trouble to fake his death, escape SS, create the espada, capture Orihime to lure captains to Hueco Mundo for "easy pickins'", enter a war while his 4-9 espada get owned, then watch as 1-3 die (one of which HE KILLED HIMSELF!). Now he's a god who's powerful without KS, and nobody can match him. So then wtf was all of this for, he lures away all those captains and now he has all of the vaizards there so the Orihime ploy was pointless yet he still plans to kill everyone alone. If there isn't some reason for this other than "Aizen r elite haxor" then seriously, every single action since the first time we've met Aizen has been a troll. I don't think it was intended to end this way, Kubo was forced to go in this crappy direction.

This chapter sounds like a 19 page example of why Aizen IS a god, and yet Kubo won't answer the one thing he needs to do. The question is WHY. We can only follow Bleach's progression, but we don't know any of the why's. Why is Aizen so different and why is he so evil?

You're right. All we can do is follow Bleach to see why things are like this. Thats the entire point of reading a story right. but we aren't getting an aizen backstory. kubo already said meh to that idea in a interview

[Boss22]

You guys seem very concerned about plot progression, but I could watch Aizen kick every ones ass for several weeks and love it. I just wish the K man wasn't the first to be on the receiving end, ugh, now if Soi Fon and Shunsui get taken out I won't even care if the others do anything...

Really you could watch Aizen single handedly kick all of soul societies shinigami ass for weeks?.........

Wait now that I think of it I could too lol

I care about plot progression but noticing it has'nt really gone anywhere I find myself wanting to see cool pictures of everyone getting beat down.

[thefreak]

So Aizen is really the captain superman.
But still If he has all that power then why the hell he wants the Royal key or whatever it is?

[conn-man]

But still If he has all that power then why the hell he wants the Royal key or whatever it is?

that my friend, is the million dollar question. i think the answer is going to given to us at the end of this arc though and it should be a nice big twist.

[elitefox]

Wow I can say I enjoy this genocide my Aizen... he is the only one that seems to be consistent in terms of power.

I think we are right all along except for the four elders... other captains are fodder.

Aizen has
twice as speed of ichigo
strength that even surpasses the fox
has eyes like sharingan

and he is still in his shinigami state, if he has he vizard form though
he is fucking everyone, all vs one man is not as hard for him

or did the espada he brought did a good job at revealing some special powers and weaken them thus he has a better chance to calculate before the battle.

[Saint Markus]

So Aizen is really the captain superman.
But still If he has all that power then why the hell he wants the Royal key or whatever it is?

Aizen is the royal prince of Soul Society and wants his father (spirit king) dead so he can rule everything. that's my ridiculous theory, but isn't the current state of the manga the same too.

[NAM61]

aizen it taking the shinigami and vizards apart they all seem like nothing compare to his power. where is yammamotto or kisuke or maybe even the ichignator.

[daman246]

how i see noone in fkt stands a chance against aizen not even yamamoto as far as i know aizen is probably the fastest guy there is and hes super strong in strengh and he mastered kido and everything ther enothing anybody can do to him

[crowtor]

Who says he's evil?
The very definition of good and evil is all perspective anyway, maybe the King is evil, so he needs a good stabbing from Aizen.

The thing is, even though Aizen calls himself a god, it's a bluff, he knows he isn't immortal, making an army makes sense for a couple reasons.


Judging by the "rules" of SS, the way the people at Central 46 behaved, the overall state the SS has presented so far, there is nothing to wonder about Aizen's plan to overthrow this unjustice:
- Hence a reason for Tousen

When you think about it, the main plot is consistent, however it may seem to be lost in the overall story due to the amount of side-filling.

Aizen Sousuke : Kyouka Suigetsu (Mirror Flower, Water Moon)
Ichigo Kurosaki : Zangetsu (Slashing Moon)

Seems those having their powers born under the moon have a considerable amounts of power or true potential.
One might think:

- Aizen(Water Moon) gets beaten by Ichigo(Slashing Moon)
*but is it the moon that slashes or is it the moon being slashed,
translastion?

- Moon as a reference to a place above our heads(Heaven or Royal Palace)

-Aizen may be the first one to deny the reign of the King(we know through history that Kings were not good figures, with exceptions)

-Aizen's Zanpakuto : Mirror Flower, Water Moon - Mirror+WaterMoon=moon's reflection in the waters pane,

-Aizen is not alone against the rules set in SS, Ichigo is the second to fight the rules, Byakuya is almost there.

-Aizens words to Ichigo: Do you have some grudge against me?; Aizen doesnt see Ichigo as an enemy to him, he simply knows that Ichigo is fiighting against the rules

-Except the crazy scientist Mayuri and the hollow that went to hell we have not yet seen an evil persona in Bleach, or was there such?

My thoughts:
-Aizen is by far not evil, he simply does eveything necessary to accomplish his goals


Concerns:
When leaving SS Aizen states that the throne is empty at the moment, that he will sit on it. Is he refering to the King? nope, king is just a figure in Royal Palace that rules over SS. If the king was almighty he wouldn't need the royal guard. This may be farfetched but I believe Aizen is not aiming for the king but is it for Heaven's throne? Possible?

[Moon Stricken]

Yamamoto has to step in if the other Captains aren't able to do damage to Aizen. Though i still believe there is plenty for the captains to show. I mean, Shunui hasn't used his bankai, nor has Shinji, some of the other Vizard captains, Unohana and Ukitake (Wherever he is). Not to mention Yamamoto hasn't even really cared to get involved and we haven't had the reappearance of Isshin, Urahara and Yourichi. I mean those 3 seem like uber beasts in battle. So there is still plenty of fight left for the good guys.

Granted, Aizen is extremely powerful, but that is the way the main antagonist should be.

[toussaintac]

Wow, now Aizen is pwning them left and right? This is ridiculous. I really don't know what to say. This dude is destroying them and isn't even using hollow powers or bankai or shikai it seems. Kishi should just stop wasting our time and have Yamamoto fight Aizen and save everyone else the embarassment.

[Saint Markus]

i still think if Yama fights, his power would destroy everything around him. it's not really about who's more powerful either, it's "how" you fight, that really determines whether you'll win or not. i think, Yama, being the commander and with all his experience, which to add, has to be more than Aizen's own. Yama, if he does step in, it could take this battle to a whole other level.

And right now, Aizen is still merely using "words" alone to suck people into his traps and Hitsugaya (being the youngest) proves his own experience is limited in how he fights period. he may be the most popular, but a genius as he's been titled, is limited to "knowledge" not "experience".

p.s., where the f**k is Urahara?. he could end this fight easily if given the chance.

Urahara for 2010!!.

[kkck]

Wow, now Aizen is pwning them left and right? This is ridiculous. I really don't know what to say. This dude is destroying them and isn't even using hollow powers or bankai or shikai it seems. Kishi should just stop wasting our time and have Yamamoto fight Aizen and save everyone else the embarassment.

I honestly don't see where the surprise about aizen pawning every captain that comes his way comes from. Has the manga not made it more than fairly clear even long before this arc started that aizen is in a league of his own? Has he not repeatedly pawn captain level dudes without breaking a sweat? Has he not made captain level dudes fall on their knees using reiatsu alone? Did aizen not state he alone was stronger than the ten espada combined? For crying out loud, AIZEN IS NOT AFRAID OF UNOHANA!!!!!

As for yamamoto fighting aizen, I think he is gonna get pawned. Without a doubt he is the strongest of the captains but he is still within what could be considered captain level. Yamamoto can fight evenly with shunsui and ukitake at the same time. Aizen by now has soloed easily at least 4 captain level dudes without breaking a sweat when they were ganging up on him.

[ThaGreatOne]

lol. i just miss Kon and Urahara. they haven't appeared in the manga for years now. it's crazy, yo.

Urahara would definitely fare better than these guys. He is the only person so far that was able to either outsmart or not be fooled by Aizen. From what we have seen NOT being fooled by Aizen, or falling for his mind games is critical (unless you're ichigo and do for a super powerup).

[kkck]

Urahara would definitely fare better than these guys. He is the only person so far that was able to either outsmart or not be fooled by Aizen. From what we have seen NOT being fooled by Aizen, or falling for his mind games is critical (unless you're ichigo and do for a super powerup).

Isn't urahara in the position he is in due to being outsmarted by aizen though? -disgraced, banished former captain incapable of going to SS-

We have yet to see actual interaction between urahara and aizen but I really don't think he is in aizens league. I don't see how he is any different from any of the captains who are currently being pawned by aizen. He certainly is smart, strong and resourceful but there is not even the slightest indication that he has the same overwhelming strength as aizen does. Only real chance he has of opposing aizen is that his bankai actual ability is severely hax and has rules/properties/characteristics which do not take the enemy's strength when acting (kinda like kyoraku and his game rules or shinji's change in perception).

[Jadedmariner]

Urahara would definitely fare better than these guys. He is the only person so far that was able to either outsmart or not be fooled by Aizen. From what we have seen NOT being fooled by Aizen, or falling for his mind games is critical (unless you're ichigo and do for a super powerup).

Kind of depends. Shunsui's bankai does seem to possess the capabilities of defeating anyone, but is kinda luck based.

[Darth Executor]

Kind of depends. Shunsui's bankai does seem to possess the capabilities of defeating anyone, but is kinda luck based.

It was never confirmed that's his bankai. main reason why I don't think it is is because without the children's games, his shikai sucks ass.

[lonelytaka]

hope the result fixed next chapter.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I hope we get some information about why Aizen is so goddamn powerful soon. I mean the guy grabbed a whip out of mid air, do you know how crazy that is. Doesn't look like Aizen is going to use KS anytime soon just to prove to everyone that he doesn't need it. I'm surprised Shunsui is just looking on letting the other captains get owned, maybe he is looking for a good time to strike.

[ThaGreatOne]

Why wouldn't Aizen go out and build an army? That's a LOT smarter then just going through and taking out all the Captains earlier. Why? Maybe you guys missed it, but every Captain isn't even close to their full Strength. For gods sake, Komamura has a massive hole in him and he's still fighting. Of course he wouldn't be able to attack with everything he had. Starrk managed to OWN Rose and Love, and at the moment none of the Vaizard can really use their mask because they used that all up trying to beat the Espada. Its only natural for Aizen to be able to tank through them now, even if they are Captain-Class, they can't possibly be at their full power in a situation like this.

Really? Aizen already owned Komamura with a non-chanted black coffin spell at the end of the SS arc when Koma didn't have a hole in his chest so he could handle him either way. As for Love and Rose....BOTH of them healthy with masks couldn't even handle Stark alone so Aizen would easily handle them even if both were healthy. Shinji faced Aizen alone and Aizen seemed capable of handling shinji as well. I'm glad the ss captains are getting owned

[savantking]

Urahara would definitely fare better than these guys. He is the only person so far that was able to either outsmart or not be fooled by Aizen. From what we have seen NOT being fooled by Aizen, or falling for his mind games is critical (unless you're ichigo and do for a super powerup).

not really he hasn't shown one shred of battle talent to actually validate that claim.

[ThaGreatOne]

Isn't urahara in the position he is in due to being outsmarted by aizen though? -disgraced, banished former captain incapable of going to SS-

We have yet to see actual interaction between urahara and aizen but I really don't think he is in aizens league. I don't see how he is any different from any of the captains who are currently being pawned by aizen. He certainly is smart, strong and resourceful but there is not even the slightest indication that he has the same overwhelming strength as aizen does. Only real chance he has of opposing aizen is that his bankai actual ability is severely hax and has rules/properties/characteristics which do not take the enemy's strength when acting (kinda like kyoraku and his game rules or shinji's change in perception).

No Aizen fooled everyone else into thinking Urahara did the experiments and he could invent something to even the scale against Aizen. All I'm saying is Urahara doing great against Aizen because of ability would be much better than the Ichigo wtf asspull that is sure to happen

[ryanzokuken]

not really he hasn't shown one shred of battle talent to actually validate that claim.

what the hell have you been following?

[El Samurai Guapo]

Shinji faced Aizen alone and Aizen seemed capable of handling shinji as well. I'm glad the ss captains are getting owned

Well Shinji by himself seemed to get farther than anyone else, so far. If Shinji can actually cut Sosuke, that means he is a lot stronger than the likes of Rose, Sajin, and Ichigo, all of whom have had their attacks stopped by Sosuke's bare hands.

I don't see why Shinji didn't have his mask on while fighting Sosuke. That small cut he left on his arm could have been far worse had Shinji been wearing his ほろのかめん (horo no kamen). Even if Sosuke had caught on afterward, he might have been missing an arm by that point.

[Rainl]

As for yamamoto fighting aizen, I think he is gonna get pawned. Without a doubt he is the strongest of the captains but he is still within what could be considered captain level.

Captain-level varies. There is no "within captain-level". Many people who are far above the standard "captain-level" are still considered captain-level. Yamamoto's essentially double that of a high-tier captain, and we've seen how powerful Shunsui is now.


Yamamoto can fight evenly with shunsui and ukitake at the same time.

He was holding the upper-hand. With ease actually, considering he had no injuries nor did he even show any signs of sweat(that indicates ease). That speaks volumes.


Aizen by now has soloed easily at least 4 captain level dudes without breaking a sweat when they were ganging up on him.

Solo'ing captains at that level(I.E, Komamura/Hitsugaya) is totally different from the likes of Shunsui/Ukitake level captains. If he turns around and one-shots Shunsui, than yea maybe you would have a point.

[kkck]

Captain-level varies. There is no "within captain-level". Many people who are far above the standard "captain-level" are still considered captain-level. Yamamoto's essentially double that of a high-tier captain, and we've seen how powerful Shunsui is now.



He was holding the upper-hand. With ease actually, considering he had no injuries nor did he even show any signs of sweat(that indicates ease). That speaks volumes.



Solo'ing captains at that level(I.E, Komamura/Hitsugaya) is totally different from the likes of Shunsui/Ukitake level captains. If he turns around and one-shots Shunsui, than yea maybe you would have a point.

Well, kyoraku and ukitake didn't seem to beat up either. I don't think yamamoto had that much of an upper hand.

Aizen blocked kyoraku's attack from the back with a chant less kido for crying out loud. Aizen probably has great results for his chant less kido but even then, blocking kyoraku's THAT easily while fighting of hitsugaya is quite a feat IMHO. Not only that but aizen caught rose's shikai barehanded and apparently also owned love. Not to mention he destroyed komamura and his bankai (komamura did have a few serious wounds so I guess that example does not count that much; the rest was beat up but mostly fine though). He is not even his shikai for crying out loud. It's not like there has been a single moment when he has actually even needed his shikai, mostly he just used it for the lolz so far. Even if yamamoto does somehow give aizen some trouble, he will just activate his shikai and stab yamamoto in the ass at his own leisure.

[savantking]

what the hell have you been following?

what has he actually done? Feat-wise not hype. In fact he doesn't even have that much actual hype in terms of others saying he's an extraordinarily gifted captain level like Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana or Yamamoto. Its just readers who think he's badass.
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Captain-level varies. There is no "within captain-level". Many people who are far above the standard "captain-level" are still considered captain-level. Yamamoto's essentially double that of a high-tier captain, and we've seen how powerful Shunsui is now.



He was holding the upper-hand. With ease actually, considering he had no injuries nor did he even show any signs of sweat(that indicates ease). That speaks volumes.



Solo'ing captains at that level(I.E, Komamura/Hitsugaya) is totally different from the likes of Shunsui/Ukitake level captains. If he turns around and one-shots Shunsui, than yea maybe you would have a point.

At the very least Aizen wouldn't be able to fight Yamaji without using KS like he has with these guys. He tries to catch ryuujinjakka he's gonna get lose that hand and likely the arm too.

[ThaGreatOne]

Well, kyoraku and ukitake didn't seem to beat up either. I don't think yamamoto had that much of an upper hand.

Aizen blocked kyoraku's attack from the back with a chant less kido for crying out loud. Aizen probably has great results for his chant less kido but even then, blocking kyoraku's THAT easily while fighting of hitsugaya is quite a feat IMHO. Not only that but aizen caught rose's shikai barehanded and apparently also owned love. Not to mention he destroyed komamura and his bankai (komamura did have a few serious wounds so I guess that example does not count that much; the rest was beat up but mostly fine though). He is not even his shikai for crying out loud. It's not like there has been a single moment when he has actually even needed his shikai, mostly he just used it for the lolz so far. Even if yamamoto does somehow give aizen some trouble, he will just activate his shikai and stab yamamoto in the ass at his own leisure.

but it wasn't like Yama vs Shinsui Ukitake was just an all out battle though.Yama when shikai then they talked about it. Besides that we've seen that Yama was able to outrun shinsui and ukitake and own that Allon creature so there's alot left to discover about his power as well, but unless those two fight we can only guess and seeing as though kubo has had Yamamoto either asleep or just being lazy so far it might take awhile to see that

[El Samurai Guapo]

what has he actually done? Feat-wise not hype. In fact he doesn't even have that much actual hype in terms of others saying he's an extraordinarily gifted captain level like Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana or Yamamoto. Its just readers who think he's badass.
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At the very least Aizen wouldn't be able to fight Yamaji without using KS like he has with these guys. He tries to catch ryuujinjakka he's gonna get lose that hand and likely the arm too.

You're obviously contradicting yourself here. I could apply the same logic you're using against Kisuke to Yamamoto - what has he done, feat-wise, not hype? "It's just readers who think he's badass."

[ryanzokuken]

what has he actually done? Feat-wise not hype. In fact he doesn't even have that much actual hype in terms of others saying he's an extraordinarily gifted captain level like Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana or Yamamoto. Its just readers who think he's badass.
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he slashed Aizen's VC armband off, which is the second most anybody has accomplished against Aizen, after Shinji cutting his arm.

made fools of Yammy and Luppi. yes, i know, Luppi was a weakling and Yammy is, too, in his unreleased form. but it still says something that Urahara sliced right through Luppi's shit with his shikai blast. he could just as easily have shot it at Luppi's chest, instead of his tentacles, and one-shotted him.

general hinting and foreshadowing of his overall power and abilities throughout the entirety of the series.

has yet to reveal his bankai, despite having been around since the very beginning, and a key character as well. (yes, that means a lot.)

his intelligence and inventions such as his reiatsu-masking clothes and his portable gigai replacement technique (which is essentially the same in battle as Aizen's illusionary self images) make him quite tricky and deadly.

ok, so maybe not any big, demonstrative feats, but i feel that Kubo has made it fairly clear by now that Urahara is a big shot.

[Travis]

what has he actually done? Feat-wise not hype. In fact he doesn't even have that much actual hype in terms of others saying he's an extraordinarily gifted captain level like Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana or Yamamoto. Its just readers who think he's badass.
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At the very least Aizen wouldn't be able to fight Yamaji without using KS like he has with these guys. He tries to catch ryuujinjakka he's gonna get lose that hand and likely the arm too.
You're wrong.

Some of you guys are in denial about what Aizen can do. Shunsui is attacking with these captains and Aizen is dodging and parrying easily. Sorry but Shunsui isn't going to be able to do anything unless he uses a bankai which Kubo won't reveal. It's kind of sad because it seems like Kubo wants to save everyone's bankai for their 1v1 fights so there can be more focus on the bankai and what it does. I mean it would be pretty odd if 5 people revealed a new bankai all at once, and we'd have to sit there and hear each explanation for what their bankai does and see it's application. It kind of sucks because it takes away from the tension because we know these guys aren't going all out. But that's the way Kubo wants to write it.

The whole not using a mask thing is dumb imo. It really makes no sense that Shinji isn't using it. Besides the fact that he wanted it off so Tousen could injure his forehead and when Shinji released his shikai, Aizen could see the reversal on left to right from the cut on his head.

And I'd think that the others can put their mask back on after awhile, like Ichigo did. I mean Ichigo didn't sit there and train 11 seconds a day for a month did he? Or 11 seconds every hour. He's been show to have his mask break and then put it back on.

I think it has to do with Kubo wanting to show the facial expressions of the people rather than the story actually make sense by the people using all their power against Aizen. I mean look at Rose in this chapter he looks so desperate when he attacks Aizen.

Yamamoto is in his own category. He isn't with Shunsui and Ukitake even though they would be in the next category along with Unohana imo. I think Yamamoto is going to eventually step up and attack Aizen 1v1 after Ichigo fails in getting his opening.

Yamamoto is going to be the only one that can potentially challenge Aizen at this point, but I think Aizen will still beat him otherwise there is no point to Ichigo being the protagonist. Wonder if Aizen will need KS or not. I mean when he gets to the King's realm, he has to be able to beat all those captains in the Royal Squad without using his hypnosis because they probably already know of Aizen's shikai. So defeating Yamamoto without KS would be a good test for him. Or atleast I'm guessing Yamamoto would have told them by now. But we did just have Unohana tell Ichigo about Aizen's shikai so who knows.

[savantking]

he slashed Aizen's VC armband off, which is the second most anybody has accomplished against Aizen, after Shinji cutting his arm.

made fools of Yammy and Luppi. yes, i know, Luppi was a weakling and Yammy is, too, in his unreleased form. but it still says something that Urahara sliced right through Luppi's shit with his shikai blast. he could just as easily have shot it at Luppi's chest, instead of his tentacles, and one-shotted him.

general hinting and foreshadowing of his overall power and abilities throughout the entirety of the series.

has yet to reveal his bankai, despite having been around since the very beginning, and a key character as well. (yes, that means a lot.)

his intelligence and inventions such as his reiatsu-masking clothes and his portable gigai replacement technique (which is essentially the same in battle as Aizen's illusionary self images) make him quite tricky and deadly.

ok, so maybe not any big, demonstrative feats, but i feel that Kubo has made it fairly clear by now that Urahara is a big shot.

not really um...he had a surprise shot at injuring Aizen...had him completely by surprise...and failed. whilst Shinji face to face with his shikai actually did injure him. So that already in my opinion puts him below shinji. yeah he fooled Yammi with a gigai...:eyeroll...cuz that guy is the just as perceptive as Aizen. In fact didn't Ulquiorra say that he was just as perceptive? No... well thats cuz ulquiorra told him he was a moron....Plenty of the stronger captains have better hype and feats...Shunsui kills Starrk released with shikai, Urahara's shikai gets deflected by unreleased ulquiorra..etc..etc.
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You're wrong.

Some of you guys are in denial about what Aizen can do. Shunsui is attacking with these captains and Aizen is dodging and parrying easily. Sorry but Shunsui isn't going to be able to do anything unless he uses a bankai which Kubo won't reveal. It's kind of sad because it seems like Kubo wants to save everyone's bankai for their 1v1 fights so there can be more focus on the bankai and what it does. I mean it would be pretty odd if 5 people revealed a new bankai all at once, and we'd have to sit there and hear each explanation for what their bankai does and see it's application. It kind of sucks because it takes away from the tension because we know these guys aren't going all out. But that's the way Kubo wants to write it.

The whole not using a mask thing is dumb imo. It really makes no sense that Shinji isn't using it. Besides the fact that he wanted it off so Tousen could injure his forehead and when Shinji released his shikai, Aizen could see the reversal on left to right from the cut on his head.

And I'd think that the others can put their mask back on after awhile, like Ichigo did. I mean Ichigo didn't sit there and train 11 seconds a day for a month did he? Or 11 seconds every hour. He's been show to have his mask break and then put it back on.

I think it has to do with Kubo wanting to show the facial expressions of the people rather than the story actually make sense by the people using all their power against Aizen. I mean look at Rose in this chapter he looks so desperate when he attacks Aizen.

Yamamoto is in his own category. He isn't with Shunsui and Ukitake even though they would be in the next category along with Unohana imo. I think Yamamoto is going to eventually step up and attack Aizen 1v1 after Ichigo fails in getting his opening.

Yamamoto is going to be the only one that can potentially challenge Aizen at this point, but I think Aizen will still beat him otherwise there is no point to Ichigo being the protagonist. Wonder if Aizen will need KS or not. I mean when he gets to the King's realm, he has to be able to beat all those captains in the Royal Squad without using his hypnosis because they probably already know of Aizen's shikai. So defeating Yamamoto without KS would be a good test for him. Or atleast I'm guessing Yamamoto would have told them by now. But we did just have Unohana tell Ichigo about Aizen's shikai so who knows. You misunderstand me. I wasn't talking about Aizen dude I was talking about Urahara being overhyped...Aizen's overpowered...Still he's not gonna be able to toy with yamma like he is with the others. I doubt anyone can... at the very least he's gonna need to use KS or a mask or something. Prolly even bankai if yama uses bankai

[Travis]

Yeah I guess I misread some of the posts since I had just woke up, but my point still stands about Aizen and what he's doing and Yamamoto being the only one that can potentially challenge him.

[savantking]

I am in complete agreement. But i don't think he'll as easily dispatch Kyoraku as he did the others.

[Travis]

I am in complete agreement. But i don't think he'll as easily dispatch Kyoraku as he did the others.

Yeah I think it will take maybe 3 blows to put Shunsui down. While it will take about 1 or 2 to take everyone else down. However, I'm not sure what's going to happen here. Aizen may not even defeat half of these guys before someone else interferes. I believe Ichigo will try for his opening and fail, then someone else will interfere to fight Aizen 1v1 or Aizen may just retreat if he gets what he's looking for.

Gin's speech about Aizen was good, but it still doesn't explain why no one is attacking him or paying attention to what he's doing. It also doesn't make sense that he's standing around doing nothing.

[leonoel]

I just have a quick question, where did Aizen got all this killer power to begin with, I used to like Bleach because more or less thing made sense, strong characters were the ones that trained the most, I mean I do believe in Aizen having amazing powers but in no way to put up 4 Captains (among them the strongest one outside Yama) and other 4 Captain level characters with Vizard Power Up against him. I mean, really??? It makes no sense whatsoever, it goes against pretty much any common sense.

And where the hell is the old man any way, I mean you have a freckin nuclear bomb with a sword and he is drinking coffee by the sidelines. If the objective is to defeat him use the napalm movement he used last time and finish that guy.

I really think this is kinda crappy writing, he just does not know how to keep Aizen alive so he keeps giving him weird upgrades, not to mention for sure he will have a Hollow mask and his power upgrade will be way more hellish than before.

I mean, does this guy does not read any shonen, in DB every major enemy had a reasonable explanation for their power, and was well established since the beginning that he was stronger than the main characters. In Saint Seiya the guys go against Stronger Saints and Gods who have also a valid reason to be stronger. I mean even Inuyasha had characters strength well established before hand Naraku was quite powerful but never faced directly Seeshomaru who was way stronger at the beginning of the series. And the examples keep going

In Bleach case the main antagonist is supposed to be at least on the same level of the other captains but instead it looks like the gap is as huge as Ichigo and the first time he met Byakuka. I mean there were supposed to be at least 3 guys stronger than him, or at least older.

[Sparkling Chidori]

I just have a quick question, where did Aizen got all this killer power to begin with, I used to like Bleach because more or less thing made sense, strong characters were the ones that trained the most, I mean I do believe in Aizen having amazing powers but in no way to put up 4 Captains (among them the strongest one outside Yama) and other 4 Captain level characters with Vizard Power Up against him. I mean, really??? It makes no sense whatsoever, it goes against pretty much any common sense.

And where the hell is the old man any way, I mean you have a freckin nuclear bomb with a sword and he is drinking coffee by the sidelines. If the objective is to defeat him use the napalm movement he used last time and finish that guy.

I really think this is kinda crappy writing, he just does not know how to keep Aizen alive so he keeps giving him weird upgrades, not to mention for sure he will have a Hollow mask and his power upgrade will be way more hellish than before.

I mean, does this guy does not read any shonen, in DB every major enemy had a reasonable explanation for their power, and was well established since the beginning that he was stronger than the main characters. In Saint Seiya the guys go against Stronger Saints and Gods who have also a valid reason to be stronger. I mean even Inuyasha had characters strength well established before hand Naraku was quite powerful but never faced directly Seeshomaru who was way stronger at the beginning of the series. And the examples keep going

In Bleach case the main antagonist is supposed to be at least on the same level of the other captains but instead it looks like the gap is as huge as Ichigo and the first time he met Byakuka. I mean there were supposed to be at least 3 guys stronger than him, or at least older.

You say that and it's true but, it's just one of the reasons why Aizen is amazingly strong, he didn't let anyone know of his power in SS, well, not all of his power. His mystery to everyone is one of his strengths, no one really knows how to fight him or what to expect from him.

If you look at the gaiden, you can see that he uses advanced kido, so we know he must have trained an awful lot.

[rambokid]

this is doesnt make sense.

why would he ask for more power (hollowification) if he is already way way way way way way way stronger than anyone else?


by the way i think he could have been trained using the ability of his shikai on himself

[liquidsky]

I've been holding off on discussing Bleach manga, but I can no longer read and hold it in. I know I'm going to get flamed, but what the heck.

1. Someone, somebody just please kill Komamura. Really, kill him already.
2. Remember how Hiyori got pwned? So is it me or do all the good guys not realize how potentially dangerous it is to fully engage Aizen but not be able to focus on Gin who can just as easily snipe them with his extending shikai?
3. So Aizen is pwnage not because of his crazy broken Shikai? But because he's a total badass on his own? Wait... WHAT? You mean all along, he's stronger than we all think he is? As if he isn't really strong enough?
4. Now on to Hitsugaya (I know there are a lot of Hitsugaya fanboy/fangirls, so flame me.) I'm sick of him and his speeches, he talks way too much.
5. WTH happened to Kensei vs. WW?
6. Is Yamamoto sitting around toasting marshmallows? Or did he go back to soul society because he forgot the chocolate for his s'mores?

I'm going to toss a question out there to all regular readers (non-fanatical) of Bleach. I used to enjoy reading Bleach and I'd avoid the anime. But are they slipping up with the writing? Does it feel like a total drag fest? Like they're trying to just stretch out the story with meaningless panels? Yes I know these are all my opinions, hence me expressing them.

[espadaboyzz]

Wow, i already read the chapter... So, Aizen is truly strong and he not just rely on kyoka suigetsu after all. He already being powerful and i guess all the captain n vizard cant defeat him... all of them should go bankai n hollow mode, if not they probably will lose. No wonder all the espada is under his butt.....i just really hope Yamaji will step in, because i want to see what the different in their powers..... so we can predict well.

[leonoel]

I'm going to toss a question out there to all regular readers (non-fanatical) of Bleach. I used to enjoy reading Bleach and I'd avoid the anime. But are they slipping up with the writing? Does it feel like a total drag fest? Like they're trying to just stretch out the story with meaningless panels? Yes I know these are all my opinions, hence me expressing them.

Is not just dragging, somehow Aizen is an all powerful being out of anyone's reach and he as well has a super hypnosis attack not to mention probably a hollow mask and he has not even revealed his Bankai (did I miss anything).

The whole idea to make Aizen this strong is only to state Ichigo as a level higher of the captains when he finally defeats him (yeah, he will, at the end defeat him with an even more illogical reason) After reading Hikaru no Go, where the main character gets his ass beaten at the final of the manga because it was simply non sense he would defeat someone well established as strongest this does seems like a drag.

[poobert]

Aizen being strong was kind of obvious. He stopped koma's bankai with a hand, Ichi's with a finger. They couldn't even cut him. 100 years ago he was already captain level in kido. It would be rubbish is all of a sudden average captains could do something to him.

What I wonder, like everyone else, is where the hell is Yama. It is clear he is the only one that stands a chance now.

Actually forget yama, why are Rose and Love and Shunsui still not going bankai?

The next chapter at this rate, is going to consist of Aizen systematically beating the shit out of everyone.

[leonoel]

Aizen being strong was kind of obvious. He stopped koma's bankai with a hand, Ichi's with a finger. They couldn't even cut him. 100 years ago he was already captain level in kido. It would be rubbish is all of a sudden average captains could do something to him.
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Ok, why the hell are average captains suddenly challenging them. If any of them would have any sense of strategy and common sense, you send Hitsu, Komamura and other 3 to deal with Gin and keep at Yama, Shunsui and a recovered Ukitake (Yeh Unohana should have healed him instead of the useless girl) who are supposed to be stronger than Aizen, I mean it was well stablished that shunsui was very strong.

[poobert]

Ok, why the hell are average captains suddenly challenging them. If any of them would have any sense of strategy and common sense, you send Hitsu, Komamura and other 3 to deal with Gin and keep at Yama, Shunsui and a recovered Ukitake (Yeh Unohana should have healed him instead of the useless girl) who are supposed to be stronger than Aizen, I mean it was well stablished that shunsui was very strong.

Probably because they underestimated him and thought they need the numbers to counter ks. But it looks like Aizen isn't going to use it, but instead just beat them up the normal way.

[Koen]

Well one things is for sure: Gin knows more about Aizen and his powers. I wouldn't like if Aizen would be an invincible enemy. I hope there's a reasonable explanation for his superiority at this moment. If I were to guess then I am starting to believe that Aizen's power doesn't reach the Shinigami directly but maybe Aizen's power messes up the zanpaktou that are wielded by the Shinigami. A simple touch of your oppenent's zanpaktou is enough to make it ineffective. Well that's what I am tending to believe because attacking aizen is possible but it seems the zanpaktou are always ineffective against him

[warriorofvirtue]

I'd love to see Aizen starts tossing some of the cpatsins up and gin starts sniping them out the air like target practice lol. On a serious note though I do agree that Urahara is overhyped a little and Yamamoto needs to pull out a bankai now and idc what people say about he will incinerate everyone. As old as he is and strong as you all say he should be able to control his flames let's not be foolish.

[Lee-tyme7]

I just have a quick question, where did Aizen got all this killer power to begin with, I used to like Bleach because more or less thing made sense, strong characters were the ones that trained the most, I mean I do believe in Aizen having amazing powers but in no way to put up 4 Captains (among them the strongest one outside Yama) and other 4 Captain level characters with Vizard Power Up against him. I mean, really??? It makes no sense whatsoever, it goes against pretty much any common sense.

And where the hell is the old man any way, I mean you have a freckin nuclear bomb with a sword and he is drinking coffee by the sidelines. If the objective is to defeat him use the napalm movement he used last time and finish that guy.

I really think this is kinda crappy writing, he just does not know how to keep Aizen alive so he keeps giving him weird upgrades, not to mention for sure he will have a Hollow mask and his power upgrade will be way more hellish than before.

I mean, does this guy does not read any shonen, in DB every major enemy had a reasonable explanation for their power, and was well established since the beginning that he was stronger than the main characters. In Saint Seiya the guys go against Stronger Saints and Gods who have also a valid reason to be stronger. I mean even Inuyasha had characters strength well established before hand Naraku was quite powerful but never faced directly Seeshomaru who was way stronger at the beginning of the series. And the examples keep going

In Bleach case the main antagonist is supposed to be at least on the same level of the other captains but instead it looks like the gap is as huge as Ichigo and the first time he met Byakuka. I mean there were supposed to be at least 3 guys stronger than him, or at least older.


Even if Aizen is super strong and Ichigo manage to defeat him I have a feeling there's still a powerful being out there way stronger than Aizen. Maybe a hollow master who Aizen work for, who knows.

[Quantam503]

Probably been said already, but Kubo must really have a hand fetish. I mean, Uryuu, Hacchi, Soifon and now poor old Kommamura.

That said, as much as I like the little guy, I really hope Gin pops up and smacks him down again so we could get some more elaboration on Aizen.

[Snake_Cowboy]

Whoa. Not a lot of story progression this chapter, but I think Kubo has made his point: as Gin said, it's clear that Aizen doesn't need Kyouka Suigetsu to be ridiculously powerful.

Aizen is beating the crap out of several captains on his own and he isn't even using his zanpakutou's abilties to aid him in combat. I have been wondering this whole time why Gin has been doing so little, but it should be obvious to everyone now: Gin isn't doing anything because he doesn't need to.

Aizen alone is in more control of the situation than all top 3 Espada combined.

[leonoel]

Aizen alone is in more control of the situation than all top 3 Espada combined.

Which brings me to the question WHY THE HELL BOTHERING IN CREATING THE ESPADAS in the first place.

How come he did not fight the same people when in SS, and instead just ran away, why going through all that trouble if he was already strong enough. I think there is more than meets the eye, either that or the writing is worse than I thought.

[jaymizzo]

Whoa. Not a lot of story progression this chapter, but I think Kubo has made his point: as Gin said, it's clear that Aizen doesn't need Kyouka Suigetsu to be ridiculously powerful.

Aizen is beating the crap out of several captains on his own and he isn't even using his zanpakutou's abilties to aid him in combat. I have been wondering this whole time why Gin has been doing so little, but it should be obvious to everyone now: Gin isn't doing anything because he doesn't need to.

Aizen alone is in more control of the situation than all top 3 Espada combined.

Well Kubo Is Backing himself into a very small corner.. It will be broken if anyone at this point can fight on par with Aizen except the 3 peeps. (Yama Ura And Isshin) coz IMO they are the only ones strong enough to stand up against god!

But this was Epic Bullshit.. Il Repeat it almost 1 million times!! Aizen owning the crap out of 4 Captains without breaking a sweat is Stupid... Very Very very Stupid

[Snake_Cowboy]

Which brings me to the question WHY THE HELL BOTHERING IN CREATING THE ESPADAS in the first place.

How come he did not fight the same people when in SS, and instead just ran away, why going through all that trouble if he was already strong enough. I think there is more than meets the eye, either that or the writing is worse than I thought.

I believe that the Espada were Aizen's initial batch of experiments. He wanted to see how powerful high-level Menos could become by turning them into Arrancar. As Aizen himself said, the results were disappointing.

However, Wonderweiss seems special: most likely, the Espada were not turned into Arrancar with the Hougyoku and that's why they weren't as strong as they could've been. Wonderweiss is a different story. I think he's the prototype for a perfect, Vasto Lorde-based hybrid and there will be more to come.

The Espada were merely test subjects for turning Hollows into Shinigami as much as the Vizards were for turning Shinigami into Hollows.

[RollsRoyce]

And it's yet to reveal how Aizen got all this powerful. Could be the reason/goal's of dominating the Zero Palace or something relating to the Shinigami's Zero Division.

[leonoel]

I believe that the Espada were Aizen's initial batch of experiments. He wanted to see how powerful high-level Menos could become by turning them into Arrancar. As Aizen himself said, the results were disappointing.

But if he is already strong enough to deal with everyone, why bothering creating beings that may overpower him, is he stupid? I found a reason behind the vizards (he wanted to become more powerful) but I still lack to see why he wants a Hollow army, from where I am standing he might go and kill everyone in SS the way he is currently fighting

[Snake_Cowboy]

But if he is already strong enough to deal with everyone, why bothering creating beings that may overpower him, is he stupid? I found a reason behind the vizards (he wanted to become more powerful) but I still lack to see why he wants a Hollow army, from where I am standing he might go and kill everyone in SS the way he is currently fighting

It's simple: 1) Aizen is certain he will still be superior to his hybrid soldiers (which will most likely be the case) and 2) Aizen needs more, powerful troops for another goal. Not for conquering Soul Society, but something else...

Can someone say... Zero Division and the Royal Palace?

[zoefdehaas]

It's simple: 1) Aizen is certain he will still be superior to his hybrid soldiers (which will most likely be the case) and 2) Aizen needs more, powerful troops for another goal. Not for conquering Soul Society, but something else...

Can someone say... Zero Division and the Royal Palace?

I agree. As powerful Aizen is, he still needs followers to achieve his ultimate goal (whatever that may be). We know by now Aizen isn't the type to do things on his own when others can do it for him. He only makes a move when others fail.

EDIT: Props to Komamura. Although he's been rather piss poor in the series, lately he's been pretty bad ass.

[ganjabuss]

aizen proves non-hybrid shinigami wont be able to beat him...vaizards are the only ones left but their power seems to be different from aizen/tousen/gin...aizen's power lvl seems to be on ichigonator's lvl...i wonder how long it'll be b4 ichigo realizes that he needs to talk with zangetsu....as the vaizards aren't showing anything like resurrection or a mask that adds any other hollow parts to their body[like tousen]...ichigo is the only hope left...but as he is now he wont be able to do anything...

[poobert]

Well Kubo Is Backing himself into a very small corner.. It will be broken if anyone at this point can fight on par with Aizen except the 3 peeps. (Yama Ura And Isshin) coz IMO they are the only ones strong enough to stand up against god!

But this was Epic Bullshit.. Il Repeat it almost 1 million times!! Aizen owning the crap out of 4 Captains without breaking a sweat is Stupid... Very Very very Stupid

Actually, I don't see it that way.

[tl;dr power levels of the strongest people make sense and it looks as if Ichigo can no longer rely on blind strength]

For the story to progress any further than it has now, it has to be clear that Aizen can not be beaten by a shinigami (otherwise this arc will end with yama killing aizen, end of story and end of bleach). We still have many stronger characters with strength greater than we are used to.

Not only that, we have to understand what hollowfication means for a perfect captain and why Aizen wants it so much. Hollowfication is a means of ridding power boundaries of a soul, but we have only seen it done on shinigami who have no where near reached their max level. Even shinji was quite far from perfect before.

Aizen's statements in SS are now understandable. We now understand when he said he had reached his limit, it was not some cocky bullshit. He has actually reached limits that no one else can. The other captains are VC's to Aizen's captaincy.

Now we know what a single shinigami is capable of, we can appreciate hollowfication to the point that Ichigo's last hollow take over was not exactly a huge leap that it seemed to be.

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I believe that this is a good beginning to seeing stronger characters. I now will have no problem seeing yama go bankai, which before seemed so ridiculous in power. It was absurd how Yama could be so strong, but now we can compare him to someone else who has reached limits.

Yama, Unohana, Isshin, the royal guard, if all of them have reached limits of combat then it makes sense that they are so far removed from the other captains and that if Aizen becomes a hollow, he will actually be a threat. His power will go beyond that of any shinigami, unlike the rest of the hybrids we have seen, who could probably be matched power wise by Yama.

It also bodes well for Ichigo and the plot. There is no way some random powerboost could give him enough power to beat Aizen, let alone a hybrid Aizen. Kubo has pretty much made sure that to win, Ichigo has to become skilled to the point of maxing out his shinigami limits. This means he must be trained.

[sarutobi_sensei]

WOW Aizen is really scary. Even without using Kyouka Suigetsu.

He basically pwnd Komamura in like 10 seconds. He cut him an arm and then his stomach area.

Damn.

I'm wondering if anyone in there is able to fight against Aizen just like that.

Maybe Unohana and Yamamoto are able to fight against him.

[Pavitre]

okay first of all lolz at those ppl who said Aizen is worthless without KS, even though he himself mentioned his superiority in combat, ppl still doubted him

Now thanks to fox guy everything's been cleared

That being said now Aizen has been really put on the pedestal, with all the praise about him. Pardon me for saying it but now it seems as if lol no one can stand upto him

Oh and one more thing, just like someone else said before "how the hell did a VC become so strong?"

[LongLiveOnePiece]

Aloha fellows.this is my first post at Bleach Forum..

I read the chapter, i liked the part that Gin was shown at least, i wasn t expecting hit to fight as well but nevermind.As well, Aizen as expected is beyond-understaning powerful.That is why i wont accept his defeat.i dont want ichigo to defeat him.he cant and he shouldnt even if he evolves more in some unknow way.although he is the hero of the manga he stands no chance.. I will consider it a big mistep if he defeats him.

The only people that should stand as worthy enemies of Aizen are Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto and Zaraki Kenpachi ( maybeb with a Bankai ?)all others are just trash for him.especially ichigo

[Mifune_Taichou]

Actually, I don't see it that way.

[tl;dr power levels of the strongest people make sense and it looks as if Ichigo can no longer rely on blind strength]

For the story to progress any further than it has now, it has to be clear that Aizen can not be beaten by a shinigami (otherwise this arc will end with yama killing aizen, end of story and end of bleach). We still have many stronger characters with strength greater than we are used to.

Not only that, we have to understand what hollowfication means for a perfect captain and why Aizen wants it so much. Hollowfication is a means of ridding power boundaries of a soul, but we have only seen it done on shinigami who have no where near reached their max level. Even shinji was quite far from perfect before.

Aizen's statements in SS are now understandable. We now understand when he said he had reached his limit, it was not some cocky bullshit. He has actually reached limits that no one else can. The other captains are VC's to Aizen's captaincy.

Now we know what a single shinigami is capable of, we can appreciate hollowfication to the point that Ichigo's last hollow take over was not exactly a huge leap that it seemed to be.

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I believe that this is a good beginning to seeing stronger characters. I now will have no problem seeing yama go bankai, which before seemed so ridiculous in power. It was absurd how Yama could be so strong, but now we can compare him to someone else who has reached limits.

Yama, Unohana, Isshin, the royal guard, if all of them have reached limits of combat then it makes sense that they are so far removed from the other captains and that if Aizen becomes a hollow, he will actually be a threat. His power will go beyond that of any shinigami, unlike the rest of the hybrids we have seen, who could probably be matched power wise by Yama.

It also bodes well for Ichigo and the plot. There is no way some random powerboost could give him enough power to beat Aizen, let alone a hybrid Aizen. Kubo has pretty much made sure that to win, Ichigo has to become skilled to the point of maxing out his shinigami limits. This means he must be trained.

That post makes a lot of sense and I really hope the KT really does go that way and makes Ichigo get better because if he just gets a raw power boost and wins that will just be...well sh1t. THAT would make me stop watching bleach because I will know the author has no skill or ideas left whatsoever. That said, a few observations:

I still think that Aizen being so strong really is retarded. His escape in the SS arc now makes no sense at all. Unless Yama can actually kick his ass. I think it is pushing it from Kubo to make the main badguy SO SO SO overpowered. It's just not good storytelling because it eliminates hope. There has to be a chance that he can be beaten whereas now KT is building it up as if there is none.

Also, ha I was right that Hitsugaya will not get one shotted this chapter-lol at the people who thought that would happen. The strange thing is that he is showing yet another technique (possibly two depending on how you look at it). The list is getting rather long. Imo this really means KT is setting him up as the next captain commander which imo means Yama will die. I really hope not because no mater what anyone says, my mind simply cannot accept Aizen being stronger than Yama.

[ninjaman]

I dont mind drawn out chapters as long as Aizen is in it pwning. I feel sorry for the big bad wolf he always getting raped. Aizen must be helle strong to cut that bankai in 2.

[Mifune_Taichou]

Also, it just occured to me...

Aizen just basically broke Kommamura's bankai to pieces with absurd ease and yet he felt the need to dodge Hitsugaya's attack...why?

I don;t think thats necessarily a coincidence.

[Snake_Cowboy]

I believe that this is a good beginning to seeing stronger characters. I now will have no problem seeing yama go bankai, which before seemed so ridiculous in power. It was absurd how Yama could be so strong, but now we can compare him to someone else who has reached limits.

Yama, Unohana, Isshin, the royal guard, if all of them have reached limits of combat then it makes sense that they are so far removed from the other captains and that if Aizen becomes a hollow, he will actually be a threat. His power will go beyond that of any shinigami, unlike the rest of the hybrids we have seen, who could probably be matched power wise by Yama.

It also bodes well for Ichigo and the plot. There is no way some random powerboost could give him enough power to beat Aizen, let alone a hybrid Aizen. Kubo has pretty much made sure that to win, Ichigo has to become skilled to the point of maxing out his shinigami limits. This means he must be trained.

Great post. I've been thinking roughly the same thing, but you managed to put it in the right words.

To me, this chapter all but confirmed that Aizen will not be defeated this arc. He's such an enormous powerhouse, even without Kyouka Suigetsu, Aizen is without a doubt the big villain of Bleach. Maybe there will be a threat after his story is done, but the only one that has anywhere near the potential to reach Aizen's status is Ichigo.

With such a god-awful amount of reiatsu and the speed at which he's developed, Ichigo truly is incredible. I think a lot of people are forgetting that it's been only about 6 months since Ichigo became a Shinigami in the first place and now he's already reached the level of the average captain, something that takes even many talented Shinigami countless years to reach. But as Aizen has already demonstrated, Ichigo still doesn't stand a chance against him at the moment. Aizen is what happens when you have someone with Ichigo's talent and give him centuries to master that power - and then augment it with Hollow powers.

As someone with so much potential and for not being under the influence of Kyouka Suigetsu, Ichigo right now does seem like the only hope of defeating Aizen. But he'll need to master all that power and soon, which means Ichigo is in for some serious training from either Urahara or Isshin.

[Toby_Temple]

what I find most interesting in this chapter is the only scene of Shunshui in page 3.

but Aizen is definitely frightening this chapter :wtf

[Sollum]

You think this is absurd? Wait for Aizen to take out his mask...

[ninjaman]

You think this is absurd? Wait for Aizen to take out his mask...

doesnt need it.

[Sparkling Chidori]

I would rather Aizen not have a mask, even though I'm sure he does, is nice seeing someone be so incredibly strong with just shinigami powers.

So what next? The chapter wasn't really left with something to continue with, I'll be annoyed if it's just more shinigami getting embarrassed by Aizen.

I really wanna see Kyouraku make a move.

[Mifune_Taichou]

i don't think next chapter will be Aizen owning more. I think it will switch to WW v Kensei of someone will engage Gin. But when it does come back to Aizen, I don't think he will be owning unopposed for too much longer.

The fact that he dodged Hitsugaya's ice attack means one of two things:

either-It could hurt him, which means he isn't invulnerable or

he thought getting frozen would slow him down and then someone could take advantage and get a hit in, which Again means that he is not invulnerable.

Also let's not get carried away-what he owned Kommamura and Rose without a mask? That's not THAT impressive. Kommamura is on his last legs after his previous fight so his bankai would be weaker-breaking it now is not the same as breaking it at the beginning. Next time we see them fight I guess Rose will put his mask on and or go bankai and Shunsui ought to make a move.

Also...there's something weird about Shunsui...i can't place my finger on it but the way Kt is drawing him unsettles me. I think either he is about to break out of character and do something very violent or he will turn evil. I could be imagining things but there is just...something

[Xerneas]

Mifune, I agree with what you said earlier - even after all this, I can't imagine Aizen being stronger than Yama-jii. Like, I'm extremely happy that Kubo finally put the Aizen doubters in their place, but I still stick by what I said last week. Aizen won't beat everyone here by overpowering them. That would be retarded and make the entire Arrancar Arc filler - over 200 chapters wasted!!

And people, there was a reason for the Espada. Their purpose was to help Aizen look for Vasto Lordes. We found that out in Nnoitra/Nel flashbacks. Plus, Aizen made a massive mistake and overestimated his top 3. He actually thought they were close in power to him and therefore enough to deal with Gotei 13, but they weren't even close. Which was a great disappointment for Aizen.

PS. Mifune, I think the reason Hitsu is doing relatively well should be obvious. I hate to say it, but I'm getting a definite fanservice vibe here. Like, he and Sajin were both treated like dirt by Aizen in SS. But now, Sajin (....and Rose, and goodness knows who else incoming) is still getting treated like dirt and Hitsu is "shining" to an extent. The bad news for him is that Aizen gets even more fanservice (Kubo is his biggest fanboy), so I expect he will fall shortly.

PPS. Gran Maestro, it seems that last week's cliffhanger turned out to be pointless after all. Kubo delivers once again. -_-;

[Mifune_Taichou]

Mifune, I agree with what you said earlier - even after all this, I can't imagine Aizen being stronger than Yama-jii. Like, I'm extremely happy that Kubo finally put the Aizen doubters in their place, but I still stick by what I said last week. Aizen won't beat everyone here by overpowering them. That would be retarded and make the entire Arrancar Arc filler - over 200 chapters wasted!!

And people, there was a reason for the Espada. Their purpose was to help Aizen look for Vasto Lordes. We found that out in Nnoitra/Nel flashbacks. Plus, Aizen made a massive mistake and overestimated his top 3. He actually thought they were close in power to him and therefore enough to deal with Gotei 13, but they weren't even close. Which was a great disappointment for Aizen.

PS. Mifune, I think the reason Hitsu is doing relatively well should be obvious. I hate to say it, but I'm getting a definite fanservice vibe here. Like, he and Sajin were both treated like dirt by Aizen in SS. But now, Sajin (....and Rose, and goodness knows who else incoming) is still getting treated like dirt and Hitsu is "shining" to an extent. The bad news for him is that Aizen gets even more fanservice (Kubo is his biggest fanboy), so I expect he will fall shortly.

PPS. Gran Maestro, it seems that last week's cliffhanger turned out to be pointless after all. Kubo delivers once again. -_-;

True i agree with pretty much all of that. But i do think Hitsugaya's fanservice is unparalleled so Aizen won't be oneshotting him soon. I think it will just go to other peoplr fighting Aizen with Hitsugaya occassionally throwing ice in his direction. So far Hitsugaya is one of the only people who have demonstrated attacks that can harm Aizen-obviously Shunsui, Shinji, urahara, uki will have things than can harm him but I dont think anyone has shown an attack as deadly as Hyoten Hyokaso at the moment. That Sennen Hyoru is also no joke. So I think it may be a case of other people making an opening for Hitsugaya to land some hit, which will in turn make an opening for Ichigo because of course the main character HAS to get involved even though he is crap.

Personally I hope its Vaizard+Shunsui v Aizen next chapter.

btw what do people think about my concerns regarding Shunsui-am I seeing things or has someone noticed something too?

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

True i agree with pretty much all of that. But i do think Hitsugaya's fanservice is unparalleled so Aizen won't be oneshotting him soon. I think it will just go to other peoplr fighting Aizen with Hitsugaya occassionally throwing ice in his direction. So far Hitsugaya is one of the only people who have demonstrated attacks that can harm Aizen-obviously Shunsui, Shinji, urahara, uki will have things than can harm him but I dont think anyone has shown an attack as deadly as Hyoten Hyokaso at the moment. That Sennen Hyoru is also no joke. So I think it may be a case of other people making an opening for Hitsugaya to land some hit, which will in turn make an opening for Ichigo because of course the main character HAS to get involved even though he is crap.

Personally I hope its Vaizard+Shunsui v Aizen next chapter.

btw what do people think about my concerns regarding Shunsui-am I seeing things or has someone noticed something too?
i don't think Shunsui will turn evil or anything dude sorry its just not in his nature and he seems to loyal to his friend Ukitake and SS.
he also HATES fighting and killing people "as shown when he fought chad" so he will definetly not sit back and let Aizen kill a shitload of innocent people.
Kubo most likely just drew Shunsui looking like that inorder to give him the badass look that means he is about to figure out a way to strike Aizen inorder to win.
notice the chapter said something like looking for a quick opening and who is better at that then Shunsui who can had in shadows and shit and force people to play his games.
next chapter i think we may see a combination of Shunsu's and Shinji's shikai's inorder to FINALLY give Aizen a hard time

[Xerneas]

I don't think Shunsui is evil or anything. He's probably just waiting for an opening to trap Aizen in a game. Thats the best shot anybody has right now without the Captain Commander getting involved. No matter how strong you are, you must play by Shunsui's rules. What I do find suspicious is that we haven't seen Ukitake after all this time....

[DreamsElude]

Also, ha I was right that Hitsugaya will not get one shotted this chapter-lol at the people who thought that would happen. The strange thing is that he is showing yet another technique (possibly two depending on how you look at it). The list is getting rather long. Imo this really means KT is setting him up as the next captain commander which imo means Yama will die. I really hope not because no mater what anyone says, my mind simply cannot accept Aizen being stronger than Yama.

Well, I don't see Hitsugaya becoming a captain commander. He's too young, too weak, too unexperienced. Yet another technique from him means that he's able to communicate with his zanpakuto really well. And it also emphasizes the strength of the best ice-type soulcutter in Soul Society. Toshiro's one of my favorite characters but seeing him in Yama's position is unthinkable for me. What bothers me is how Ichigo doesn't learn new skills at all. I mean, having this convenient skill that simply utilizes raw power isn't enough to be strong... And being fast isn't enough either. To fight an opponent as strong as Aizen one has to STUDY WELL. New skills, new moves - are essential. Hitsugaya is aware of that. But Ichigo somehow isn't. The last time he learnt from his Zanpakuto was before his fight with Byakuya. What the hell? All those skills like using getzuga for defence are irrelevant. He needs a technique as awesome as a Hyoten Hyakkaso or Takaoni... So... why isn't he talking with his Zanpakuto? Is becoming Ichigonator the only solution? If so, Ichigo really sucks.

[jaymizzo]

Actually, I don't see it that way.

[tl;dr power levels of the strongest people make sense and it looks as if Ichigo can no longer rely on blind strength]

For the story to progress any further than it has now, it has to be clear that Aizen can not be beaten by a shinigami (otherwise this arc will end with yama killing aizen, end of story and end of bleach). We still have many stronger characters with strength greater than we are used to.

Not only that, we have to understand what hollowfication means for a perfect captain and why Aizen wants it so much. Hollowfication is a means of ridding power boundaries of a soul, but we have only seen it done on shinigami who have no where near reached their max level. Even shinji was quite far from perfect before.

Aizen's statements in SS are now understandable. We now understand when he said he had reached his limit, it was not some cocky bullshit. He has actually reached limits that no one else can. The other captains are VC's to Aizen's captaincy.

Now we know what a single shinigami is capable of, we can appreciate hollowfication to the point that Ichigo's last hollow take over was not exactly a huge leap that it seemed to be.

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I believe that this is a good beginning to seeing stronger characters. I now will have no problem seeing yama go bankai, which before seemed so ridiculous in power. It was absurd how Yama could be so strong, but now we can compare him to someone else who has reached limits.

Yama, Unohana, Isshin, the royal guard, if all of them have reached limits of combat then it makes sense that they are so far removed from the other captains and that if Aizen becomes a hollow, he will actually be a threat. His power will go beyond that of any shinigami, unlike the rest of the hybrids we have seen, who could probably be matched power wise by Yama.

It also bodes well for Ichigo and the plot. There is no way some random powerboost could give him enough power to beat Aizen, let alone a hybrid Aizen. Kubo has pretty much made sure that to win, Ichigo has to become skilled to the point of maxing out his shinigami limits. This means he must be trained.

Thanks Alot :) Reading ur post Really cooled down my rage lol

In the way u put it.. i would suggest u take the role of the mangaka :XD

But Yeh, I cnt Wait To See Ichigo Spamming Kido :darn Or Maxing both Shinigami And Hollow And demon Powers (if there is any hell powers lol) And for him to loose his "naivitness"? lol

But I would also like Kubo to re-introduce ichigos frend Tatsuki, Coz im sure Urahara messd wif her abit.. It would be cool if he trained her soo much, tht she was atleast captain level :p.. who knows, urahara is a weird case lol

[Xerneas]

Ichigo does suck. But to be fair, somebody like Hitsugaya has had a formal education in Shinigami Arts. Ichigo is just winging it. Plus Hitsu has an elemental zanpakuto with the potential for many applications. Ichigo is a melee fighter so don't expect much special tricks from him. Still, I shudder to think how strong he'll be if he trains properly. This manga desperately needs a DB-esque timeskip + training arc. That way, many weak and/or unskilled characters can come back awesome without their powers looking like asspulls.

EDIT: Um, of course Hitsugaya will be the Captain Commander. When he grows up. Thats like his whole purpose for being in the manga...

[Mifune_Taichou]

Well, I don't see Hitsugaya becoming a captain commander. He's too young, too weak, too unexperienced. Yet another technique from him means that he's able to communicate with his zanpakuto really well. And it also emphasizes the strength of the best ice-type soulcutter in Soul Society. Toshiro's one of my favorite characters but seeing him in Yama's position is unthinkable for me. What bothers me is how Ichigo doesn't learn new skills at all. I mean, having this convenient skill that simply utilizes raw power isn't enough to be strong... And being fast isn't enough either. To fight an opponent as strong as Aizen one has to STUDY WELL. New skills, new moves - are essential. Hitsugaya is aware of that. But Ichigo somehow isn't. The last time he learnt from his Zanpakuto was before his fight with Byakuya. What the hell? All those skills like using getzuga for defence are irrelevant. He needs a technique as awesome as a Hyoten Hyakkaso or Takaoni... So... why isn't he talking with his Zanpakuto? Is becoming Ichigonator the only solution? If so, Ichigo really sucks.

I meant when he grows up-He is pretty awesome now for a kid, but Imagine when he matures-his powers will be ridiculous. Even shunsui said that Hitsugaya will surpass him in 100 years. And that is some endorsement.

Yes Ichigo really, REALLY needs new techniques. WTH is he playing at-but then I guess that having a homicidal hollow eat your Zan's spirit doesn't help any. EIther way he needs new and badass techniques because the captains are making him look pathetic.

[robert_nsu]

I've waited on a chapter like this for a long time. KT is showing us a little bit of Aizen's strength here and [imo] not writing himself into a corner. Think about it like this. Say Ichigo engages Aizen, and his hollow comes out with full reiatsu. This would be the end of Bleach. KT has made a clear cut path from this arc to the next by reminding everyone that Aizen can drop everyone in the room without using Kyoka Suigetsu's abilities.

Another thing is Tousen. I always had a feeling that Tousen wouldn't last long. I've heard many people say that those two would fight someday, and I always said to myself 'only time will tell'. His ability to fight without sight was great, but he never would have defeated Aizen. This chapter makes my assumption a glaring truth.

[Slightly off topic]
For those of you who watch the anime, do you ever watch how old man Zangetsu fights? He's always calm, collected, and makes precise strikes, in addition to using his special attacks to disrupt or keep an enemy off balance. Maybe it's just be, but Ichigo style is nearly opposite that of his. My point is that Ichigo needs to learn a lot from Zangetsu. Like not letting Aizen get in his head for starters.

[niblack89]

What bothers me is how Ichigo doesn't learn new skills at all. I mean, having this convenient skill that simply utilizes raw power isn't enough to be strong... And being fast isn't enough either. To fight an opponent as strong as Aizen one has to STUDY WELL. New skills, new moves - are essential. Hitsugaya is aware of that. But Ichigo somehow isn't. The last time he learnt from his Zanpakuto was before his fight with Byakuya. What the hell? All those skills like using getzuga for defence are irrelevant. He needs a technique as awesome as a Hyoten Hyakkaso or Takaoni... So... why isn't he talking with his Zanpakuto? Is becoming Ichigonator the only solution? If so, Ichigo really sucks.

I completely agree with you. But see unlike the other soul reapers Ichigo doesn't really know a lot about all his powers. I think he needs a trainer to teach him of what a Bankai's power can really do.

[haarisa]

I think a lot of you that said this chapter sucks and that Aizen should not be winning against everyone is missing the point. His #1 hollow got cheap shotted (granted, everything is permissible in war) by Shunsui. However, I am sure if the #1 hollow used his wolves against SHunsui and did not get cheap shotted, he would have gone Bankai for sure. I am sure the backstab hurt the #1 espada. If you think about it, he was owning everyone until then really well as well. AND Shunsui was originally going to go Bankai against Stark, but did not because the other captain Ukitake came and helped. My point is this.... when so many captains went against the number 1 espada, it makes sense that everyone will get owned by Aizen. He is leagues ahead of Stark. Simple as that. And that is without his mask (as is shown by the current fight). Ichigo is currently just as strong as Shunsui (granted Shunsui's games are kind of broken, but if Ichigo knew the rules, I am sure he could do just as good). Even Unohana was surprised at his reitsu. That was pointed out in the manga for no reason. IT is as simple as that. While Shunsui has way more Shinigami knowledge, pure Reitsu goes to Ichigo. Hands down. Even Ukitake was surprised at Ichigo's reitsu during the Shinigami saga and he did not even have Bankai at that time. I am not sure if Yama will fight because his Bankai will probably harm everyone in the vicinity. If you think about it... why else hasn't he fought. Even Gin has made a few moves, but Yama has not. I think Aizen will fight Yama, but he will sacrifice himself in order to protect everyone there. Maybe after going to the King's realm and getting his but handed there, he regroups and get's his Vaste Lorde and during this time, Ichigo train's his both Shinigami and Hollow powers. I don't know... a lot of random thoughts, but things I just had to say.

[vizardichigo]

@ Mifune you really think Shunsui could be evil?? I doubt it but then again who expected the nerd Aizen to be THIS freaking powerful and evil..So stranger things have happened...After reading the chapter i dont see why people are complaining so much...So he dodged two of Hitsugaya's moves, and blocked Tenken and Tengumaru, and defeated a WEAKENED Koma and Rose...So what??? I mean that is impressive but seeing how powerful Aizen has always been did you expect anything less from him? I mean i expected more..Since he has gotten serious, he has
1. Gotten cut by Shinji ( not sure if it was him or not)
2. Cut Shinji
3. Placed a kidou shield behind his neck and Dodged Ichigo's attacks ( which are not very hard considering the distance Ichigo was keeping)
4. Parried Hitsu and blocked Shunsui with a kidou shield
5. Used KS on Shunsui and made him cut the air
6. Dodged 2 in Toshiro's ice moves ( Which Halli could have and did dodge)
7. Dodged/Blocked Tenken and Tengumaru ( not sure how he avoided it :S)
8. Cut a already broken Tenken Myouou
9. Cut Koma
10. Caught Rose's whip
11. Slashed Rose

Is that really so unbelievable from a guy like Aizen? Also remember that most of these things happened after intervals of dialogue etc..Its not like they all attacked and he did ALL these things while they incessantly attacked from all sides in one chapter...It was like attack, he dodged or KS then talk, then someone else attacks, he dodged/ KS talks etc...Anyway i think the chapter was an OK one...It was a statement chapter to fully show Aizen's power and to kill any doubts of him only relying on KS....Nothing surprising...I doubt the next chapter will be like this though since a very loud statement was made..

[Pointlessness413]

I think the most interesting part of the chapter was Gin narrating. I know a lot of people have speculated about Gin being good/stronger than Aizen/etc., but the way he was like "They just don't get it" made Gin look more like a very unattached, neutral party. I remember I first got the vibe:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/213/19/

Interesting note about that page:
1. Aizen referred to "our" way.
2. Gin seems almost humored by Aizen's actions.

This chapter solidified in my mind that Gin is NOT Aizen's subordinate. Whether they're partners or have separate goals remain to be seen.

[Junior]

LOL.

Komamura truly is just..Captain fodder. This is very disappointing.

Wasn't Komamura the first Captain to use Bankai in this battle? Now he's being chopped up..wtf.

Love was the former 7th Division Captain and he's in a lot better shape than Komamura is. This is just..wow.

When I saw Komamura get his friggen hand cut off...that just took the cake.

Why even have Komamura around if all Kubo does is make him look more and more worthless as the series progresses?

[vizardichigo]

I think the most interesting part of the chapter was Gin narrating. I know a lot of people have speculated about Gin being good/stronger than Aizen/etc., but the way he was like "They just don't get it" made Gin look more like a very unattached, neutral party. I remember I first got the vibe:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/213/19/

Interesting note about that page:
1. Aizen referred to "our" way.
2. Gin seems almost humored by Aizen's actions.

This chapter solidified in my mind that Gin is NOT Aizen's subordinate. Whether they're partners or have separate goals remain to be seen.

Interesting...It is certainly true he is not as loyal as Tousen was...I doubt they are partners, but maybe Gin is just there for the lolz and not to be a " God" or anything like that..

[wooticus]

well for me it's now clear that aizen is clear above the level of a shinigami. but that level of powers doesn't make him the one super strong guy we will see.. i think that his talent and his powers are typical for a captain who is about to be promoted to zero division.. but aizen hided it all the time. so basically nobody in fake karakura but yamamoto really has a chance to stand against aizen. so he actually will reach his goal, the kings key. but in kings division he and gin will face that probably aizen still is the strongest, but that there are people around him who he can't beat without even using shikai.
because they will rape him.

but first things comes first, urahara will soon appear and he will give him some hard time just by the power of the mind while yoruichi might give him some one on one trouble

[Xerneas]

It was obvious that neither Gin nor Kaname followed Aizen in the same manner the Espada did. They weren't forced into servitude and have/had their own agendas. We just don't know what Gin's is yet. I hope its not something dumb like "he did it for the lulz" cause that would make him terribly flat.


I know a lot of people have speculated about Gin being good/stronger than Aizen/etc.,

And all those people were put in their place this chapter. Kubo gave the middle finger to anybody that doubted Aizen's power and status. Gin admitted inferiority to Aizen -

Gin: "Its because all of Captain Aizen's abilities are far removed from any other."

Old man had better prove the "any other" part wrong though. I also laugh at how Kubo dissed the Espada once again - "those ridiculous Espada." And Sajin would be so epic if Kubo had mercy. It must suck to be the only SS Captain Kubo treats bad.

Again, Yammy's existence puzzles me. Certainly Kubo doesn't expect to show us all this epic action from Aizen and then go back to Yammy and waste our time by making him fail? Its really odd how he's lived this long. One of Aizen's main men is dead, and his second form is being held back after the Boss fights? I would laugh so hard if Yammy turned out to be a Vasto Lorde. And would laugh even harder if Kubo makes him into a bishounen when he goes 3rd form. :eyeroll

[Mifune_Taichou]

I think a lot of you that said this chapter sucks and that Aizen should not be winning against everyone is missing the point. His #1 hollow got cheap shotted (granted, everything is permissible in war) by Shunsui. However, I am sure if the #1 hollow used his wolves against SHunsui and did not get cheap shotted, he would have gone Bankai for sure. I am sure the backstab hurt the #1 espada. If you think about it, he was owning everyone until then really well as well. AND Shunsui was originally going to go Bankai against Stark, but did not because the other captain Ukitake came and helped. My point is this.... when so many captains went against the number 1 espada, it makes sense that everyone will get owned by Aizen. He is leagues ahead of Stark. Simple as that. And that is without his mask (as is shown by the current fight). Ichigo is currently just as strong as Shunsui (granted Shunsui's games are kind of broken, but if Ichigo knew the rules, I am sure he could do just as good). Even Unohana was surprised at his reitsu. That was pointed out in the manga for no reason. IT is as simple as that. While Shunsui has way more Shinigami knowledge, pure Reitsu goes to Ichigo. Hands down. Even Ukitake was surprised at Ichigo's reitsu during the Shinigami saga and he did not even have Bankai at that time. I am not sure if Yama will fight because his Bankai will probably harm everyone in the vicinity. If you think about it... why else hasn't he fought. Even Gin has made a few moves, but Yama has not. I think Aizen will fight Yama, but he will sacrifice himself in order to protect everyone there. Maybe after going to the King's realm and getting his but handed there, he regroups and get's his Vaste Lorde and during this time, Ichigo train's his both Shinigami and Hollow powers. I don't know... a lot of random thoughts, but things I just had to say.

ichigo has the same reiatsu as Shunsui? really? This IS Bleach we're talking about riiight? Cos that's never been stated and by how much better Shunsui is I can only assume you're reaching...a lot.

I really hope Shunsui gets the drop on Aizen next chapter and gives him a nasty cut. i would LOL at Gin if the next thing that happens is Aizen getting his back slashed massively.
[hr]
btw the Hallibell and now Aizen fight is making it look like until now Hitsugaya has been holding back massively. Add to that the fact that his stats in Kido are very high, if he starts using in in combat, combined with what he's shown so far he is fearsome. Not to Aizen and Yama but everyone else will have to think twice.

I think Hitsugaya's greatest weakness is his speed, which is what may end up getting him owned next chapter-he has many and powerful techniques but his shunpo seems hardly better than standard level. If they are smart, the fast captains should attack Aizen relentlessly, while people like Hitsugaya act as Artilery from a distance. And i dunno wth is Ichigo doing.

The kid's lack of resolve is infuriating and laughable. He needs to get his act together and at least try to get close to Aizen-I think right now, the difference between his state of mind and that of the captains is that he is scared-not about anyone else, I think right now he is scared of Aizen.

[locke002paul]

...
5. Used KS on Shunsui and made him cut the air
...


Hmm, is it me or did Aizen just shunpo out of the way ? I'm not sure he used KS.
Anyway, whatever the case, it just goes showing Shunsui is on another level than the fodder that were pwnd in this chapter. Too bad about Komamura, I really like him, he acts like a very honorable man. It doesn't bother me that he is defeated so often, while he is somewhat lacking in power(in his defence he encountered only high-tier oponents), he remains a great character.

Now, what I would like to see, is a combination of Shunsui and Shinji's Shikai. Like forcing Aizen to play a game and Shinji helping by inverting everything. That would really mindfuck Aizen.

[Mifune_Taichou]

Hmm, is it me or did Aizen just shunpo out of the way ? I'm not sure he used KS.
Anyway, whatever the case, it just goes showing Shunsui is on another level than the fodder that were pwnd in this chapter. Too bad about Komamura, I really like him, he acts like a very honorable man. It doesn't bother me that he is defeated so often, while he is somewhat lacking in power(in his defence he encountered only high-tier oponents), he remains a great character.

Now, what I would like to see, is a combination of Shunsui and Shinji's Shikai. Like forcing Aizen to play a game and Shinji helping by inverting everything. That would really mindfuck Aizen.

It would, if KT didnt worship at Aizen's altar-you know he'd just make it so he is completely unfased and just says cocky things to people.

That said, its interesting that Aizen has basically SHUT THE F**K UP this chapter. He either has his game face on or is just using KS somehow and doesn't want to give the game away.

[kkck]

ichigo has the same reiatsu as Shunsui? really? This IS Bleach we're talking about riiight? Cos that's never been stated and by how much better Shunsui is I can only assume you're reaching...a lot.

I really hope Shunsui gets the drop on Aizen next chapter and gives him a nasty cut. i would LOL at Gin if the next thing that happens is Aizen getting his back slashed massively.


Shunsui does not have a shread of a chance of doing those things. Aizen has avoided his attacks with a chant less kido and just moving away so far. Aizen basically shunpoed behind kyoraku, that is how fast aizen is.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/389/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/389/17/

I honestly doubt kyoraku was holding back right there. I do think shunsui is stronger than most captains, but against aizen.... he is just not gonna cut it-can't blame him though, aizen is in a league of his own-.

[SenninSage]

It sucks that Yamaji got killed, really hoped I would get a chance to see him go all out.

Yes, I'm saying he's dead. He might as well be dead, because he isn't doing a damn thing.

[Mifune_Taichou]

I still think the UKI-SHUNSUI reunion is coming. Ukitake has been forgotten for a long time, clearly on puprose. And his exchange with Aizen at the end of the SS arc ensured they will cross swords one day i think. So I am hoping for him to come back and the pair of them to show the rest, "just how it's done" and give Aizen a real run for his money.

[Yans86]

I seriously don't understand why everyone talks like Shunsui is not there.....he tried 2 attacks the last chapter before HItsu went bankai...
It's not like Kubo can make around 10 people attack at the same moment and let them all fall in the same very chapter...what happened in this chapter is crazy cause it happened in just few seconds after Hitsu's bankai attack,and likely a couple minutes after Shunsui/Hitsu combi.Not saying that he did it effortlessy without even using KS or breaking a sweat...
Next chapters he will handle (good or bad ) others opponents and very few times will be passed in the end....

I don't understand who said that he is using KS,cause throught Gin is the very same Kubo that he is saying that Aizen is frightnening strong even without it!!!

[sentazar]

Discussion : Interesting chapter

Prediction : Aizen will continue decimating to allow for Ichigo's Dad + Urahara toget involved as they are apparently incredibly strong and have a history with aizen

[kkck]

Discussion : Interesting chapter

Prediction : Aizen will continue decimating to allow for Ichigo's Dad + Urahara toget involved as they are apparently incredibly strong and have a history with aizen

Can urahara even physically come to the war though? Isn't FKT somewhere in SS? If it is, kisuke physically cannot possibly make it to the battlefield. I doubt ishin will appear too, I think his part in the plot comes later.

[Necron]

there is one thing that bothers me in "bleach" as a whole:

even thou people are cut in half , or arms are seperated from the body or they have the deepest pierces in their chests, there will allways be some orihime or hachi who can fix it , and thats why all of the powers aizen has there are only half as awesome as they seem to be

if there really would not be such overhealing powers in bleach than i would enjoy every chapter to no end , but just this little problem makes it not as impressive as some other mangas....

but chapter was awesome, gin's analysis showed us two important aspects

- KS is not Aizens trump card, at all , he could make all of this without it
- all until now was NO illusion created by aizen so we can finally scratch this this theory

[Yans86]

The first to fall were KOma(cause his role ended with Tousen's death),Rose and Love because they didn't have any particular relationship with other characters.
Hitsu has fankai so he should last more for the moment,Risa has to talk/tag team with SHunsui at least,and Shinji is the vizards leader so he shouldn't fall that fast(plotwise and characterwise)...
The likelly to fall now are SoiFon and Omaeda IMO.....followed by Risa I think.Then Hitsu ho will be possibly saved by Shunsui/Uki or with Old Yama/Urahara group intervene...


IMO Aizen strenght is forshadowing the RG strenght....said that,it's very possible that withouth hollowification he wouldn't be able to beat them...
Having an army of VLarrancar and the ESPADA as their recruiters sounds plausible enough now.Having them would help against RG lvl fighters which can't be taken like the normal captains...

[hajialibaig]

wow.. just read the chapter..koma got pwned BIG TIME hahahaha, don't remember seeing anyone in bleach get pwned so bad as of late..damn...

aizen's showing his worth, mere shikai too..wow...kenpachi the so-called brute will get chopped to pieces if he goes one v one with aizen

[Mifune_Taichou]

wow.. just read the chapter..koma got pwned BIG TIME hahahaha, don't remember seeing anyone in bleach get pwned so bad as of late..damn...

aizen's showing his worth, mere shikai too..wow...kenpachi the so-called brute will get chopped to pieces if he goes one v one with aizen

I'm not so sure about that one. Their sword skill should be equal and I don't see Aizen getting many opening on Kenpachi or vice Versa. Kenpachi is levels above Kommamura so thats not really basis for comparison. imo Aizen v Kenpachi, sealed swords only would be a badass fight but it would detract from Aizen's image. The reason why Ken and Byakuya are in HM right now is that besides Byakuya needing to save his sister, the pair of them are better suited to fight Aizen than most and KT didn't want to have to deal with that.

[savantking]

I'm not so sure about that one. Their sword skill should be equal and I don't see Aizen getting many opening on Kenpachi or vice Versa. Kenpachi is levels above Kommamura so thats not really basis for comparison. imo Aizen v Kenpachi, sealed swords only would be a badass fight but it would detract from Aizen's image. The reason why Ken and Byakuya are in HM right now is that besides Byakuya needing to save his sister, the pair of them are better suited to fight Aizen than most and KT didn't want to have to deal with that.

No Kenpachi would get stomped into the dirt against Aizen. If this chapter has shown anything its that anyone short of Yamaji has no chance against aizen even without KS.

[Mifune_Taichou]

No Kenpachi would get stomped into the dirt against Aizen. If this chapter has shown anything its that anyone short of Yamaji has no chance against aizen even without KS.

I tend to disagree. Aizen didnt do anything that amazing this chapter, besides own an already half dead Kommaura, who is clearly by far and away the weakest captain anyway. clap clap.

It's important not to get carried away with the Aizen worshiping. Kenpachi, eyepatch off and doing Kendo from the start WILL cause Aizen problems. To claim otherwise is just silly.

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

No Kenpachi would get stomped into the dirt against Aizen. If this chapter has shown anything its that anyone short of Yamaji has no chance against aizen even without KS.
dude were talking about pure badass face to face sword fighting with no tricks then Kenpachi will DEFEINETLY not be getting stomped in any way shape or form.
were talking about i guy here who's whole fighting style is pure power and sword slashes that send shockwaves.
remeber he owned the 5# espada with 1 freaken strike when he got serious and was cutting Yammi to pieces without even taking of his eyepatch or useing both hands.
you seriously understimate Kenpachi dude.
any other situation sure Aizen would stomp Kenpachi but not in a power battle.
i'm not saying Kenpachi will win but he definetly won't get owned in that department
[hr]

I tend to disagree. Aizen didnt do anything that amazing this chapter, besides own an already half dead Kommaura, who is clearly by far and away the weakest captain anyway. clap clap.

It's important not to get carried away with the Aizen worshiping. Kenpachi, eyepatch off and doing Kendo from the start WILL cause Aizen problems. To claim otherwise is just silly.
wut he said^^^^
calm down on the Aizen worship dude lol:tem

[tousendrinksbleach]

ONE THING TO SAY :
MYOUOU

[Mifune_Taichou]

ONE THING TO SAY :
MYOUOU

lol yes that will forever be the worst bankai of any captain. Looks cool...but so so useless. Seriously Kommaura needs to either get better and pwn someone or just fricking resign. If i got owned so consistently I would be ashamed to call myself a captain-which is too bad because Koma is awesome as a character. But kt is determined to ruin him.

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

lol yes that will forever be the worst bankai of any captain. Looks cool...but so so useless. Seriously Kommaura needs to either get better and pwn someone or just fricking resign. If i got owned so consistently I would be ashamed to call myself a captain-which is too bad because Koma is awesome as a character. But kt is determined to ruin him.
dude i know:facepalm
every freaken time he tries to do something he gets owned!!!
sigh.....
its either Kubo hates Koma or he must be saving Koma for a epic VL battle after Koma receives a powerup.
lets look at koma's track record
against Kenpachi-(never finished but Kenpachi had the upperhand and still had his eyepatch on)
against Aizen-(Completely owned in everyway
against Pow (ok i'll give him this one but pow was only a fraccion so it hardly makes him look good)
against Tousen-(once again gets owned and loses a hand)
recently against Aizen-(once again completely owned in every way shape or form.
so after looking at the record Koma has 1 win and its against a freaken Fraccion this is getting sad for Koma:(

[Mifune_Taichou]

dude i know:facepalm
every freaken time he tries to do something he gets owned!!!
sigh.....
its either Kubo hates Koma or he must be saving Koma for a epic VL battle after Koma receives a powerup.
lets look at koma's track record
against Kenpachi-(never finished but Kenpachi had the upperhand and still had his eyepatch on)
against Aizen-(Completely owned in everyway
against Pow (ok i'll give him this one but pow was only a fraccion so it hardly makes him look good)
against Tousen-(once again gets owned and loses a hand)
recently against Aizen-(once again completely owned in every way shape or form.
so after looking at the record Koma has 1 win and its against a freaken Fraccion this is getting sad for Koma:(

I know, RUKIA has a better track record than him. She defeated two arrancar (de roy and Rudobon), got the drop on Grimmjow and beat the 9th espada. Komamura's achievements basically rank on par with those of VC's.

Truth be told, he's fought Aizen twice and Tousen was probably stronger than any espada besides the top 2 (thats open to debate). Kenpachi too. So he is unlucky in biting off more than he can chew. Of course the fact Hitsu has outlasted him against Aizen and Aizen is actually fricking bothering to dodge Hitsugaya's attacks whereas he just broke Kommamura's bankai makes Kommamura look even worse.

[Junior]

'kay.

I dunno where this is coming from but there's no way Kenpachi's even close to Aizen in skill.

He wouldn't get stomped (IE Komamura and Rose) but he would definitely get his ass handed to him. That's just...evident.

Would the fight between Aizen and Kenpachi be a lot more interesting? Yup.
Would the outcome be any different? Hell no.

Kenpachi is a cool character but lets not get beside ourselves here.

Byakuya would get beaten to a bloody pulp too, btw.

[Mifune_Taichou]

when kubo was a child, a wolf chased him and since then he sword he will humiliate the entire race of wolfs
srsly wtf is a wolf doing as a captain??????????????????

because next chapter he will reveal his FOXKAI whereas he will one hit kill Aizen. Lol.

another thing which makes no sense-Aizen felt he can grab Rose's shikai with his hand but he blocked Hitsugaya's sealed sword with his. How come? surely if he can block one with his hand he should be able to block the other-not to mention if he did, it would leave Hitsugaya open for a one hit kill slash. I guess KT is really intent on powering hitsu up constantly now. I dont mind tooooo much because I like hitsu but i dont like inconsistencies like, WHY THE F**K are the pettals back at 3 behind him? its like hes back at full power-wtf??Is this what he meant when he said his bankai regenrates? EXPLAIN THE PETALS KUBO PLEASE.FFS

[Evil3ye]

An other character lost his arm.. mhhh.. this seems to be something like Kubo's trade mark :notrust

I found Aizen's battle skills pretty impressive yeah. Was good to see him making more than a single slash in 100chaps. However I kinda felt like Gin's speech was a little bit over the top, but that might be just me though

[exacta]

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/390-40/15


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Now Komamura gets to join the club of characters in Bleach who have gotten their arm chopped off. This calls for a celebbration!!!!:facepalm

Why does Kubo crap on Komamura so much??? It honestly took away from the chapter. This chapter was good, but Komamura has taken enough crap from Kubo. I'm starting to believe that some dogs really do never get their day.

Nahh Kenpachi doesn't stand a chance.Just look at Aizen. He's freaking God WITHOUT using Kyoka Suigetsu. That was pretty much the whole point of this chapter, lol.

[Mifune_Taichou]

'kay.

I dunno where this is coming from but there's no way Kenpachi's even close to Aizen in skill.

He wouldn't get stomped (IE Komamura and Rose) but he would definitely get his ass handed to him. That's just...evident.

Would the fight between Aizen and Kenpachi be a lot more interesting? Yup.
Would the outcome be any different? Hell no.

Kenpachi is a cool character but lets not get beside ourselves here.

Byakuya would get beaten to a bloody pulp too, btw.

not really. Kenpachi is SS's best swordsman, just like Yoruichi is the godess of flash. Aizen is not better at swordfighting than him, that's just...evident.

If they fight and Ken goes all out, Aizen will bleed. He'll win, but he'll bleed. Also i wouldnt be so sure he can win purely sword v sword-he's have to use kido etc to overpower ken imo.

Byakuya would obviously lose but in this gangup situation Senbonsakura would be very useful i think-it could track Aizen much better and quicker than most captains could-would prolly do f*ck all when it hit him but still.
[hr]

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/390-40/15


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Now Komamura gets to join the club of characters in Bleach who have gotten their arm chopped off. This calls for a celebbration!!!!:facepalm

Why does Kubo crap on Komamura so much??? It honestly took away from the chapter. This chapter was good, but Komamura has taken enough crap from Kubo. I'm starting to believe that some dogs really do never get their day.

Nahh Kenpachi doesn't stand a chance.Just look at Aizen. He's freaking God WITHOUT using Kyoka Suigetsu. That was pretty much the whole point of this chapter, lol.

Lol guys cmon-SERIOUSLY?? you found this THAT impressive? I think Gin's little narration hypnotised the lot of you. Let's see what he did:

Dodged a Hitsu attack.
Blocked Love's shikai
Crushed a weak captain (komammura) who was fighting at round 20% anyway.
Grabbed a shikai and slashed a Vaizard of questionable prowess without a mask (Rose).

effing wow man...THATS so impressive I think i'll cry. Yes it's good because he's being attacked from all direction but it's still not THAT much. ffs he has to do something better to be worthy of being called GOD. do not use the word lightly. Besides im pretty sure Yama would have just incinerated everyone in this chapter with one swing of his shikai. So yeah, Aizen is great but not THAT great, jeez calm down.

[exacta]

I don't know, Aizen chopped through Myouo's sword like it was butter. And he's so freaking fast, much faster than Kenpachi. I don't even consider Kenpachi that fast compared to the other captains, he doesn't use shunpo much. He's got him beat in reiatsu too, Kenpachi couldn't make an Espada fall to his knees with reiatsu alone. Nah, I can't see it. I love Kenpachi, but Aizen's too fast is what it comes down to I think.

You know, after reading this chapter, ya really gotta hand it to Shinji for getting a hit on this guy lol.

[Junior]

not really. Kenpachi is SS's best swordsman, just like Yoruichi is the godess of flash. Aizen is not better at swordfighting than him, that's just...evident.

If they fight and Ken goes all out, Aizen will bleed. He'll win, but he'll bleed. Also i wouldnt be so sure he can win purely sword v sword-he's have to use kido etc to overpower ken imo.

Byakuya would obviously lose but in this gangup situation Senbonsakura would be very useful i think-it could track Aizen much better and quicker than most captains could-would prolly do f*ck all when it hit him but still.

LOL.

Are you serious?

Kenpachi is the best swordsman in SS? That's a title.

Titles can be lost and exchanged easily. That's the whole premise of the title of Kenpachi being given to the Captain of that division.

And since nobody has ever really witnessed Aizen's true potential as a seated Captain you can't really say who's better and who's not. Aizen was incognito at the time.

It's okay to be a fan of Kenpachi but lets not get illogical.

[exacta]

Lol guys cmon-SERIOUSLY?? you found this THAT impressive? I think Gin's little narration hypnotised the lot of you. Let's see what he did:

Dodged a Hitsu attack.
Blocked Love's shikai
Crushed a weak captain (komammura) who was fighting at round 20% anyway.
Grabbed a shikai and slashed a Vaizard of questionable prowess without a mask (Rose).

effing wow man...THATS so impressive I think i'll cry. Yes it's good because he's being attacked from all direction but it's still not THAT much. ffs he has to do something better to be worthy of being called GOD. do not use the word lightly. Besides im pretty sure Yama would have just incinerated everyone in this chapter with one swing of his shikai. So yeah, Aizen is great but not THAT great, jeez calm down.

Well, calling him a God was a joke. But right now, everyone looks pretty screwed.Old man Yamamoto is the only one in FKT who has a chance, methinks, since theres no way Shinji is going to use Bankai, or anyone else who hasn't probably, and he's pretty damn strong without his shikai too.

[conn-man]

not really. Kenpachi is SS's best swordsman, just like Yoruichi is the godess of flash. Aizen is not better at swordfighting than him, that's just...evident.

no way man, people like byakuya and shunsui are way better swordsmen than kenpachi, kenpachi just looks like the best because he can cut through ANYTHING.


very awesome chapter, last week i said i was incredibly dissapointed but this week im overjoyed. i dont like that it had to be komamura but the way aizen took him down was spectacular, even with love attacking at the same time.

i dont know for sure or not but it looked to me like aizen got caught between tenken and tengumaru but burst free, hierro perhaps?

[Mifune_Taichou]

LOL.

Are you serious?

Kenpachi is the best swordsman in SS? That's a title.

Titles can be lost and exchanged easily. That's the whole premise of the title of Kenpachi being given to the Captain of that division.

And since nobody has ever really witnessed Aizen's true potential as a seated Captain you can't really say who's better and who's not. Aizen was incognito at the time.

It's okay to be a fan of Kenpachi but lets not get illogical.

I'm not actually a Kenpachi fan-he's ok but just doesnt do much for me. But being a rampant Aizen fanboy isnt too good either...may cause brain damage later when Aizen gets owned by Ichigo.

Just because Gin was talking his boss up doesn't mean he is the best at EVERYTHING. He isnt better than yoruichi at shunpo and he hasnt actually showed any swordmanship skill-he's fast and just slashes people once. THATS IT. he hasnt done anything else like have an actual sword fight with anyone. Assuming he is better than kenpachi at sword fighting is just hilarious. Gin's monologue does not detract from the fact that what Aizen did in this chapter isn't THAT impressive. If you like Aizen, i'm sure it's like xmas come early but with a critical eye-its nothing that amazing.

[knives2021]

Has any body notice that the lovely little mark that shenji put on Azein has magicly disappeared? There are four scans where azein shows his right arm but there are no marks.

[Mifune_Taichou]

Has any body notice that the lovely little mark that shenji put on Azein has magicly disappeared? There are four scans where azein shows his right arm but there are no marks.

Lol yh I guess Kubo's heart couldn't bear drawing Aizen with a scratch on him-after all, he must be PERFECT. or else kubo wouldn't want to marry him so much. I'm seriously starting to think KT's persona in bleach isn't Kon, but Hinnamori

[Poke Her Face]

Hm. Well, to give the Captains/Vizards credit, they aren't at their best. They are fatigued and wounded so Aizen has an edge. Really, when you compare the odds, numbers mean squat when you're facing half-dead/tired people. But I'm not ruling out his raw skill. At the same time it's not a fair gauge of Aizen's power, despite what Gin babbles on about. For the Kenpachi vs Aizen ordeal, Aizen would win on the principle of Kenpachi being damage retarded. Oh? Just going to rush in and take the hit? Hurf-a-durf! I stab you in the heart or lob your head off. Considering it's Aizen we're talking about, that's not out of his realm. I don't think Kenpachi's reiatsu shield will help him much either. And is it me or has Komamura obtained the title of useless zanpaktou? It's so grossly compromising it's laughable. Just raw strength, no other fun properties. Now if it could use kido.. -that- would be an awesome addition. Still have to give him credit for taking such damage. Chest torn up and hand cut off and he still fights! What a trooper! It almost overshadows his gimpness.

[conn-man]

just reread the chapter again and im sure of it now, aizen was in the middle of tenken and tengumaru when they clashed together. thats saying a lot about him, his sword could have only blocked one and his body took the other, so how did he handle that? im gonna suggest it again, hierro, and if thats right then hes an even better hybrid than we may think.

[Junior]

just reread the chapter again and im sure of it now, aizen was in the middle of tenken and tengumaru when they clashed together. thats saying a lot about him, his sword could have only blocked one and his body took the other, so how did he handle that? im gonna suggest it again, hierro, and if thats right then hes an even better hybrid than we may think.

It could be hierro.

Or it could be that he's leaking out so much spiritual pressure that the physical trauma from the two blades was nothing. Kinda like that speech Kenpachi gave in the SS Arc.

Aizen is the biggest mode that has ever lived to Mode.

Kubo really knows how to overpower a villain. --;;

[no_regretsYSL]

I'm not actually a Kenpachi fan-he's ok but just doesnt do much for me. But being a rampant Aizen fanboy isnt too good either...may cause brain damage later when Aizen gets owned by Ichigo.

Just because Gin was talking his boss up doesn't mean he is the best at EVERYTHING. He isnt better than yoruichi at shunpo and he hasnt actually showed any swordmanship skill-he's fast and just slashes people once. THATS IT. he hasnt done anything else like have an actual sword fight with anyone. Assuming he is better than kenpachi at sword fighting is just hilarious. Gin's monologue does not detract from the fact that what Aizen did in this chapter isn't THAT impressive. If you like Aizen, i'm sure it's like xmas come early but with a critical eye-its nothing that amazing.


I don't understand whats so "hilarious" about assuming Aizen is the strongest character right now. I also don't think its "hilarious" to assume that Aizen is better at Shunpo or sword fighting. How is Kenpachi the "best" at sword fighting when he got beat by ichigo in shikai... Besides there is no skill level for sword fighting its whoever can make the quickest death slash first, hence Aizen. Whats hilarious is how people are so against Aizen displaying power. Its obvious that he doesn't need to have an actual sword fight with anyone if he can take down characters with one slash. That does raise the question why Hitsugaya is still alive, but who knows.

I'm also curious why so many people are trying to down play Aizen BECAUSE others are impressed. Anytime and i mean ANYTIME someone gets one-shotted its friggin epic, even if someone were to um I don't know, one shot Omaeda, Unohana's VC, and just for shits and skittles, The 1st Division VC himself. Like geez, chill out and stop killing the mood.

[knives2021]

I really just think azien is using his ability while he battles, would explain how he lost the cut on his arm and such, because if azien would take out all the members of the 13 squads whats left for gin. No I know the commander will step in, but there are allso about 3 captins we haven't seen fighting fully yet. so i think it will be interesting, cause look at it this way if one of the top captins were to go "bankai" it would change the playing fields a lot, and if unahanna has a massive big trick up her sleeve, there is a reason for azien letting gin stay in the back ground, HE knows someone will do something. I make this bet now that as soon as one of the 4 higher end captians go bankai then gin steps in or if ichigo goes for his "opening"

[Zatono]

Can someone explain to me why Hitsu didn't get slashed? If Aizen can do all of that stuff he did to everyone else in just moments, what's he saving Hitsu for? Last? Or is this all some extreme fan protection Hitsu is getting. I'm personally hoping for Hitsu to get some extreme injury that'll take up a few pages next chapter.

[Junior]

I really just think azien is using his ability while he battles, would explain how he lost the cut on his arm and such, because if azien would take out all the members of the 13 squads whats left for gin. No I know the commander will step in, but there are allso about 3 captins we haven't seen fighting fully yet. so i think it will be interesting, cause look at it this way if one of the top captins were to go "bankai" it would change the playing fields a lot, and if unahanna has a massive big trick up her sleeve, there is a reason for azien letting gin stay in the back ground, HE knows someone will do something. I make this bet now that as soon as one of the 4 higher end captians go bankai then gin steps in or if ichigo goes for his "opening"

Aizen is doing one big mindfuk right now.

He's going out, kicking ass and taking names just to demoralize the SS Captains.

because, honestly, the only thing holding the Captains together is their faith. If Aizen takes that then he has won.

This Captain slaughter will probably be interrupted by Yama. I say probably because Yama has been standing around forever without batting an eye. I'm not sure if he'll ever step in =[.

and as for Gin.

I can see Hitsugaya going for Aizen from the back or something and getting a wing sniped off by Gin. That'd be pretty hot.

[knives2021]

I really hope to see what happens if old man comes in with his two "sons" and all three go BAN KAI! lol i think azien and gin be like that was unexspected.

[Junior]

Another question:

...What tf happened to Ukitake?

Did he ever get up from getting stabbed by WW?

[knives2021]

Nope not only did he get stabbed buy stark blasted him in the face with like a mega cero lol.

[tousendrinksbleach]

Another question:

...What tf happened to Ukitake?

Did he ever get up from getting stabbed by WW?

kubo fails at plot development ...srsy , he can only show one thing every 10 chapters .
where is yammy? and kensei? we can say that yammy is in another world and kubo can just say that this is what happened 5 mins ago , but what about kensei?

[ryanzokuken]

why do people expect Ukitake to be ok and to still fight without being healed?

he had an open hand and half of an arm ram through his back and out his chest.

A) this isn't a little knuckle-deep finger stab to the side like we've seen others receive.
B) he's not Kenpachi, he can't just tank through heavy damage, i'm sure.
C) he's already got a terminal lung disease. if WW's hand ripped any lung, Uki is EXTRA fucked.

unless he gets a super heal-job, he won't be back.

[Nmaster]

just read the chapter, it's nice seeing gin after all the time when was the last time he had any line I think when he cut that poor girl in half, overall a decent chapter which could have been better if not for some wasted panel, I'm sure the next chapter will have a huge cliffhanger for us, this chapter was clearly to set a tune for the next one.

[ShaunMati1]

Seeing this chapter only makes me believe Urahara should be the one to finish off aizen. Gin clearly stated that, and im paraphrasing, "even if one takes all precautions against aizen it is still futile because aizen is simply too strong" not to mention he still has KS. So i believe someone with greater intelligence then even aizen himself, which imo is Kisuke, should be the one to take him down. Not to mention i love urahara :D

[Raizen]

Some things to point out:
1- People said that Aizen owned 4 captains. I only counter 2: koma and rose
2- Rose and Love are really pathetic. B4 the hollowfication they were probably just as pathetic as as koma, maybe even worse. Even w/ vizard powers they probably are much better. Haha, i laugh at those thinking they were on a level close to yama. Hell they would have trouble even against byakuya or soifon.
3- Aizen beating them is expected. Koma is utterly trash, rose and love have sucky shikais.

I think shunsui is definitely a threat to Aizen. He is very strong. I don't think shunsui will fall like that. I expect at least one of the vizards to use bankai. I am suprise soifon didn't get slashed and how about omaeda?

Anyways, i hope next chapter has more shunsui and him showing his skills. I am still in the opinion that uki is acting, sort of similar to hitsu in his fight w/ luppi. I think uki is waiting for something, a chance for him to use his shikai's true power. Remember, he never explained what his shikai can do. it was only starks making inferences

As for Aizen being stronger than yama. Remember than yama took on 2 of the strongest captains. U can think of it as just 2vs1 b/c it is not. Shunsui and uki are the PERFECT teammates. When they work together their strength increases exponentially. Think of it as a # system.
Uki and shunsui has strength of 5. When they work together they don't become 10, instead they become like 20. hahah. That is my explanation!!
[hr]
Another thing i want to add:
Why does everyone automatically think that isshin and urahara are top dogs?
isshin has shown nothing but beating an arrancar w/ an unreleased sword. Most captains could do that. That was hardly anything impressive. If his reiatsu was that scary, ichigo would have felt it very fast instead of waht happened

As for urahara, yes he is a cool character but his shikai was made a joke by UNRELEASED ulqui!! Come one. Yes he is strong. Him and youruichi are most likely stronger than byakuya and ken but just below the likes of shunsui and uki.

Even if they came, they wouldn't be able to do much if Aizen could own someone like shunsui, which i don't think he can.

[Infernal Stigma]

Mifune, I agree with what you said earlier - even after all this, I can't imagine Aizen being stronger than Yama-jii. Like, I'm extremely happy that Kubo finally put the Aizen doubters in their place, but I still stick by what I said last week. Aizen won't beat everyone here by overpowering them. That would be retarded and make the entire Arrancar Arc filler - over 200 chapters wasted!!

And people, there was a reason for the Espada. Their purpose was to help Aizen look for Vasto Lordes. We found that out in Nnoitra/Nel flashbacks. Plus, Aizen made a massive mistake and overestimated his top 3. He actually thought they were close in power to him and therefore enough to deal with Gotei 13, but they weren't even close. Which was a great disappointment for Aizen.

PS. Mifune, I think the reason Hitsu is doing relatively well should be obvious. I hate to say it, but I'm getting a definite fanservice vibe here. Like, he and Sajin were both treated like dirt by Aizen in SS. But now, Sajin (....and Rose, and goodness knows who else incoming) is still getting treated like dirt and Hitsu is "shining" to an extent. The bad news for him is that Aizen gets even more fanservice (Kubo is his biggest fanboy), so I expect he will fall shortly.

PPS. Gran Maestro, it seems that last week's cliffhanger turned out to be pointless after all. Kubo delivers once again. -_-;

I think so as well because Aizen was about to block or cut hitsu's attack untill he was interrupted here
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/390-40/9
Also Aizen avoided Ichigo attack, but it does not mean it could hurt him;)