Why does Tobi/Madara have all of those Sharingans eyes

[e-dog]

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I just finished reading the latest Naruto Chapter and in page 13 where madara took Danzou to his secret hideout, I noticed something right behind Madara it looks like there are jars/boxes with information-tags(name?) under them. Is there anybody else who thinks that's where he is keeping Uchiha-Eyes? If so, why? Please discuss and no flaming.
Link to the manga page (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/482/13/)


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[Criss-Kun]

Well, theres actually zero doubt that those are Sharingans, one was actually shown in the top right panel.
What Madara plans to do with those beats me. Maybe he just likes to collect Sharingans :P

[Weapon_X]

They are like Pokemon balls. Madara throws a Sharin-ball and whichever body possessed that eye, the user comes out.

An example of Madara Pokemon'ing Itachi:

Madara: Go Itachi go! *Throws a Sharin-ball*
*Itachi manifests from his eye*
Madara: Ready Itachi?
Itachi: Ita, Ita-chi!

If Madara has 100 eyes there, then he has 100 Uchihamons left.

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[Cyven]

hehe gotta catch em all.

I;m thinking he may have lied a bit about EMS and might actually have to switch eyes over certain periods to avoid it wearing off. Hence his need to collect as many sharingan as possible.

Either that, or he needs all the sharingan he can get to help him control the jyuubi. I *really* doubt he's doing it for the sake of nostalgic value.

[kkck]

I think madara keeps them and when alone he puts all those eyes in a tub and baths in them. He has some weird fetish.....

Seriously though, I bet he intends on using them for his infinite tsukyoyomi. Something like that is bound to require more than 1 eye right?

He could also keep them for spares of his own eye. It also seems as if individual uchiha had the capacities to develop their own special techniques (shisui's genjutsu for isntance) so he might want those for himself.

At least I can say nothing good will come out of madara having so many sharingans (I bet oro rolled over in hsi grave when this chapter came out; poor goy who couldn't even get 1 pair of eyes lol)

[BlackSwimmer]

Madura helped itachi kill the village, he took all the eyes so that Danzo would not take them. That is why danzo only had 10 eyes because those are from ninjas that itachi killed before the massicre

[Saruji-San]

So I was just rereading some chapters of naruto and i don't know why i didn't catch it before but as i was reading a chapter right after sasuke kills danzou...and tobi standing next to the body getting ready to take the danzou body back with him to the hideout i noticed when he took the sharigan and put it in a jar there was a whole wall of shelves behind him that has sharigans seriously musta had like atleast 50 or 60 pair but then i found myself thinkin what the hell does he have all of those sharigan eyes for so i thought i post a thread and have a discussion about it i mean i don't know if someone already made a thread like this cuz i'm too lazy to search for one but yea.....

Explain what you think he uses them for:blink

[badluckartist]

Either the same reason Danzou had them, or something far more devious. Or both.

[THM Nindo]

There could be many reason...
Here are some examples :

1) To use Izanagi constantly (kinda like Danzou did).
That would explain how everything seem to pass through him.
Maybe he's using Izanagi everytime, and that he can somehow use those eyes instead of his own eye (or maybe he can teleport those eyes into his own socket and to Izanagi all the time).

2) To build his own army of Sharingan-Users.
That would be overkill, but he could take a lot of ninjas and give them all one sharingan.
He would then have a very good army of Sharingan-users.

[KalelDaNinja11]

There could be many reason...
Here are some examples :

1) To use Izanagi constantly (kinda like Danzou did).
That would explain how everything seem to pass through him.
Maybe he's using Izanagi everytime, and that he can somehow use those eyes instead of his own eye (or maybe he can teleport those eyes into his own socket and to Izanagi all the time).

2) To build his own army of Sharingan-Users.
That would be overkill, but he could take a lot of ninjas and give them all one sharingan.
He would then have a very good army of Sharingan-users.

#2 would actually be a move that i would really enjoy in this upcoming war. Madara seems to be really low on manpower and army of sharingan mercenaries sounds sick.

[Saruji-San]

#2 would actually be a move that i would really enjoy in this upcoming war. Madara seems to be really low on manpower and army of sharingan mercenaries sounds sick.

No i don't think he would you know hand out those precious sharigans eyes to just anybody and so what if he's low on man power he has kabuto that can use edo tensei to resurrect most of the fallen memebers of akatsuki so that doesn't really make any sense in my eyes...tobi was goin to use shisui's sharigan but danzou crush it before he died so the question presents itself just what is he goin to do with the collection of sharigans
is he goin to put them to good use or are they just for his own personal use i mean i don't really think they would be for his own personal use it wouldn't really fit into the story IMO it's rackin my brain just tryin to thiink of the possibilities also where in the world did he get all those sharingans from anyway has he collected them over time or did he just like take his pick when itachi slaughtered the uchiha .....either way i think all those sharingans are gonna play an essential role in the the upcoming chapters atleast i hope ya know whatever he's goin to do with those eyes it's sure to be something cynical and devious

[Jack Van Burace]

One option is controlling the Jyuubi. It was said by Madara that the amount of Sharingans Danzou had was in order to control the Kyuubi. One can picture how many would be required to control the Jyuubi (likely far more powerful than the Kyuubi).

The second option would be to create Jinchuurikis on his side, able to control their Bijuus without trouble by using an implanted Sharingan. But I'm more for the first option.

[Prince Sasuke]

Madara said he was going after the Rinnenan, and he already has at least one Sharingan(EMS). I wouldn't be surprise if Madara had the Rinnengan in one eye and the EMS in the other. I defintely think that the stack of sharinagns will be used for Izanagi, maybe covering both arms equal a total of twenty. He will fail to obtain the Jyuubi, cause Naruto can't die, and his kyuubi training would be pointless.

All in all, Rinnengan, EMS, sharingan.... will be plenty for Naruto and Sasuke to handle.

[latinopuro15]

maybe he needs all of those eyes for the mugen tsukuyomi because tsukuyomi is a mangekyo tech, so it wouldn't be too wild if he needed a supply of eyes to keep it going... though i think i'm alone on this theory...

[Hojinmaru]

Why not simply to not let fully developed sharingan go to waste. Since it takes an exceptionally skilled ninja to activate them it would be a shame to just let them rot with the body of a fallen ninja. Plus, if you want to use that special technique that Danzo used, it would be helpful to have an extra eye to put in it's place no? He probably collected some of those from the massacre, none of them looked to be MS eyes.

[Xiraiya]

Why not simply to not let fully developed sharingan go to waste. Since it takes an exceptionally skilled ninja to activate them it would be a shame to just let them rot with the body of a fallen ninja. Plus, if you want to use that special technique that Danzo used, it would be helpful to have an extra eye to put in it's place no? He probably collected some of those from the massacre, none of them looked to be MS eyes.

It might not be possible to tell which ones would have MS unlocked anyway.
But I do agree, why let something as useful as Sharingan just go to waste on the dead, Madara may have a plan for them, but if he doesn't he certainly has some serious ammo up his sleeves.

An army of Sharingan users may be possible, with Kabuto on their side they have the medical potential to minimize excess strain on non Uchiha's to nearly nothing at all.


Though I'm not sure how Sasuke would take that having an army of Sharingan users who aren't Uchiha, unless we'll get to see the technology Nagato used come into play again and Madara makes some sort of clone variant army from Sasuke or himself or even itachi.

[Bonfire01]

Madara said he was going after the Rinnenan, and he already has at least one Sharingan(EMS). I wouldn't be surprise if Madara had the Rinnengan in one eye and the EMS in the other. I defintely think that the stack of sharinagns will be used for Izanagi, maybe covering both arms equal a total of twenty. He will fail to obtain the Jyuubi, cause Naruto can't die, and his kyuubi training would be pointless.

All in all, Rinnengan, EMS, sharingan.... will be plenty for Naruto and Sasuke to handle.

Madara suggested that the only reason Danzou could keep using Izanagi like that was because he had the 1st's cells implanted into his arm. He also said Orochimaru had worked with Danzou to substantially increase the duration Izanagi lasted for each eye.

Between those 2 things I think Kishi was telling us that only Danzou will wander round using Izanagi from tons of implanted eyes. I have a feeling we won't actually see Izanagi again, I certainly don't think we'll see anyone using it like Danzou did again.

If I was going to guess..... I would say those sharingan might get used to instantly produce a number of capable shinobi by transplating (If madara has some normal shinobi hidden away somewhere training for the use).

I think, because we're so focussed on the powerful ninjas on each side, we sometimes forget that the 5 Kages have a LOT of ninjas they can call upon and Madara has 4 including himself. Even with Kabuto's summons he's still so ridiculously outnumbered that it is hard to call it a "war".

[latinopuro15]

If madara has some normal shinobi hidden away somewhere training for the use.

he does have danzou's two escorts from the kage meeting... Fuu and Torune was it?

[josh_]

All the Sharingan's are either there to support Madara's space-time jutsu or help him either resort or revive the Juubi.

[Bonfire01]

he does have danzou's two escorts from the kage meeting... Fuu and Torune was it?

Good point, but i'm not sure they are on friendly terms with him at the moment :). I guess he might be able to brainwash them using genjutsu or something.

Personally i'd like it if he had a collection of ninja kicking around a bit like Orochimaru's sound village. It would show some decent planning on his part and give some opponents for the konaha rookies etc.

[latinopuro15]

@Bonfire01 - he might use the same line he used on kabuto... "i'll give you sasuke after the war, and i'll keep my eye on you" sort of deal lol

[Montai]

Reading all of this makes me wonder if Madara has an interest in Kakashi's sharingan.

[josh_]

Reading all of this makes me wonder if Madara has an interest in Kakashi's sharingan.

I thought he said he did at one point or something like there are only this many sharingan users left.

There has to be a reason more important that just Izanagi.

Maybe he needs to acquire all the awaken sharingan to give the juubi back it's eye power.

Meaning the Juubi's power has been split in 3. It's doujutsu got stored within the sage of six paths and transferred down to the eldest as the sharingan. The chakra was split amongst the 9 bijuu and it's body is sealed within the moon.

[Dekker]

Madara suggested that the only reason Danzou could keep using Izanagi like that was because he had the 1st's cells implanted into his arm. He also said Orochimaru had worked with Danzou to substantially increase the duration Izanagi lasted for each eye.

He never said that. Madara said he could keep using Izanagi becaue of Orochimarus experiments with it. That has nothing to do with the first. Danzou was able to use Mokuton because of te firsts cells.

[POW]

maybe he needs all of those eyes for the mugen tsukuyomi because tsukuyomi is a mangekyo tech, so it wouldn't be too wild if he needed a supply of eyes to keep it going... though i think i'm alone on this theory...

No your not alone in this theory as I have wondered the same but knowing how Kishi loves twists and turns wouldn't surprise me if he plans to find a way to fuse all the eyes down into one single eye with the ultimate dojutsu super sharingan.

[AlB]

first thing first: No wonder Oro couldn't ever get his hands on a sharingan :o man, the guy was all desperate and crazy on a couple of those emo eyes, failed miserably every time and now THIS. if Oro was alive and saw Madara's stock he would have died of heart attack. lol poor chap

anyway, my theories


1. Sharingarmy
some people here said this already, I tend to agree

2. EMS Research and Development
I think it has something to do with EMS. it's a fact that a sharingan trasnplanted to a non-uchiha vessel can upgrade to MS (kakashi), therefore, it might be possible to create EMS with transplants too. now we know madara has a thing for MSs. perhaps he's experimenting with those eyes. fusing them or whatever.

3. Special Eyes
another theory of mine is that each of these sharingans has special power, like shisui's. perhaps madara is collecting special eyes for himself, but it's highly unlikely, because if any of these sharingans was special he wouldn't be running around without an eye.

[latinopuro15]

No your not alone in this theory as I have wondered the same but knowing how Kishi loves twists and turns wouldn't surprise me if he plans to find a way to fuse all the eyes down into one single eye with the ultimate dojutsu super sharingan.

that theory beats the hell out of mine, cuz i was thinking something like he lets the eye be drained(lose its 'light') and replace it, but the whole fuse into one mega eye sounds cool :D

[DanielKnoT]

Maybe he needs all those Sharingans, to completely decode the information left by the Rikkudo Sennin in the Uchiha Temple.

The MS can decode more than the Sharingan, and the Rinnegan even more. Maybe he is trying to create different combinations of MS and thats why he is seeking the Rinnegan

http://narutobase.net.lg1x8z.simplecdn.net/manga/mangas/Naruto/467/12.jpg

[Bonfire01]

He never said that. Madara said he could keep using Izanagi becaue of Orochimarus experiments with it. That has nothing to do with the first. Danzou was able to use Mokuton because of te firsts cells.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/479/05/ top right panel. Says about oro forcibly extending its use.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/11/ bottom right panel. Sasys that there must have been some reason a non-uchiha could control that many sharingan after seeing evidence of the 1st's cells. So it was in fact needed to use Izanagi with that many eyes.

[Saruji-San]

Well i wouldn't be surprised if tobi/madara have a rinnengan in his other eye socket or atleast is goin to put one in so he can read the tablet but i think think there's so many options and i've read everyones post up to the last one interestin theories to say the least it could really go either way bein that kishi loves throwing twists in lol and i agree about just not letting perfectly good sharingans go to waste with the dead cuz that'd be stupid lol and i don't think he goin to use those eyes for non uchiha ninja's cause i'm pretty sure sasuke would be against that idea for sure after what he said to kakashi when they last met about his bein a non-uchiha so that idea highly unlikey but i can say it's madara he's been collectin these for a while i take it so must have something to do with the Juubi but that's just speculation.......on that note does anybody know how to to put a picture in under your name some help would be greatly appreciated lol

[OdaForPresident]

I think it got something to do with his old age, maybe he needs to switch eyes every decade so that he wont age or something.

[Eprst]

Well my friends, didnt he say that Pain wasted his ressurection jutsu on Konoha ninjas instead of him. So that definitely says that he wanted ro ressurect Uchiha clan, using that eyes, plus if it is War that means there should be army, and from all this implanting stuff that we've seen so far there definitely will be army of clones with sharingans. If he could ressurect Uchiha clan then he would have Elite force, but now he has to create clones which is weaker of course. Thats why he was so annoyed by knews about Pains death. Does it make sense?

[juUnior]

hmm, to tell you the truth, I didn't even think about that, but my first thought was - like some of you mentioned - the army of Sharingan users, to have "random" army of ppl like 5 kages have, only that they would have Sharingan, which is one of the most haxxed weapon of all time in "Naruto".. and Tobi knows that :p

If its for some "bigger" scheme, I don't mind as well. Hopefully the collection of these eyes is for some usage by Madara, because if its just for the "climate" in the scene, it would be fail to me. BUT<!> I don't think that's the case, Kishi doesn't do sth like that showing sth "new" <in this case: the collection of eyes by Tobi>


I have a feeling we won't actually see Izanagi again, I certainly don't think we'll see anyone using it like Danzou did again.
Izanagi was introduced to us, and though I probably agree with you, the moment I read that I thought: Sasuke will use at least 1 Izanagi fighting with Naruto : O <yeah, its scary, but if Kishi REALLY intends Sasuke to be a tragic figure, loosing 1 eye would add to the "tragic figure" definition for sure> xd


if Oro was alive and saw Madara's stock he would have died of heart attack.
HAHA, so true! Poor Oro if he would be alive : (

[hawaplop]

I don't think Oro would care at all.
If he wanted one he would've easily taken some from Danzou.
Oro needed the living body of an uchiha, not just a sharingan.
And I think Sasuke will use izanagi vs. Naruto, and then use it a second time to save Naruto from death.

Why does Tobi have all of those sharingans....
Maybe if he isn't Madara and is actually Izuna like a lot suspect, he needed eyes to put back into his empty eye sockets and it gave him a new technique to control space and time and the sharingans are the only way to keep his power by....

[vahesan]

Izanagi imo. He just uses it better than Danzou. Avoids attacks by going into his dimension, switches eyes, back in action. Or, could be a devious ability he's preparing.

[leito]

Hmm this eyes that he was collecting... he collected it after the Uchiha massacer I think (?) What if Tobi is afraid that someone could steal the sharingan eyes and implant them in someone else (we know iths posible = example Danzou and Kakashi)?

I think it could maka Tobi some trouble if there would be 100 sharingand implanted in 50 shinobis, all of them could reach the mangenkyo, use susanoo, amaterasu etc

In my opinion it would mean a complete destruczion of Tobis plans...

So my ideas is he collected them, so that noone would ever get their fingers on sharingan...

Yes but there is this idea, why didn't he destroy this Sharingans? It could mean he wants to do something like Danzou do? Or to control the Yuubi he need the power of so much sharingans... every scenario is possible

[hawaplop]

Implanting sharingans into random shinobi will more than likely not make them awesome. Kakashi was an exception b/c he is a genius and already a top elite shinobi. Some normal Uchiha weren't even able to activate their sharingans nevermind achieve MS.
The idea of a sharingan army is pretty dumb IMO...no offense.
It drains your chakra so badly also, so unless you have a huge chakra pool, or are a genius and know how to use it efficiently, its useless.

[ashher]

I vote for sharingan army, may be madara will choose able shinobis from small villages. With kabuto there, he might even give CS to his soldiers to give chakra boost.

[Richo]

Implanting sharingans into random shinobi will more than likely not make them awesome. Kakashi was an exception b/c he is a genius and already a top elite shinobi. Some normal Uchiha weren't even able to activate their sharingans nevermind achieve MS.
The idea of a sharingan army is pretty dumb IMO...no offense.
It drains your chakra so badly also, so unless you have a huge chakra pool, or are a genius and know how to use it efficiently, its useless.

Madara has 7 Biju at his disposal as chakra suply, implant them with Sharingan in order to control them and you have youre ultimate soldier. 1 of the non biju suitable characters is Kisame. There are bound to be other shinobi with huge chakra pools in order to battle long periods of time with the sharingan.
keep in mind that Kakashi and Danzou both were able to utilize the sharingan to its fullest and kakashi hasnt got the biggest chakra suply, also implanting a single sharingan eye and then covering it will keep its chakra consume in check.

[Hojinmaru]

Implanting sharingans into random shinobi will more than likely not make them awesome. Kakashi was an exception b/c he is a genius and already a top elite shinobi. Some normal Uchiha weren't even able to activate their sharingans nevermind achieve MS.
The idea of a sharingan army is pretty dumb IMO...no offense.
It drains your chakra so badly also, so unless you have a huge chakra pool, or are a genius and know how to use it efficiently, its useless.

True the use of sharingan by a non-Uchiha is taxing on your chakra level, I don't think it is impossible. There are other examples of eye transplants by other ninja. It just means that they need to be more reserved with how they use it, more tactical. As you see, kakashi only uses it when he absolutely needs to, and since he is a high level ninja, most of his opponents are high level as well forcing him to. kakashi himself has said that he does not have a large amount of chakra so saying you need to have a lot is not correct, it just limits your time to use. Kakashi being a genius has nothing to do with his bodies ability to cope with the drain of the sharingan, only his ability to advance it's jutsu arsenal.

[Newnarutofan]

If i were mandara it would keep sharingan for first trophies to my clans success. My second option is to find some way to utilizing there justu potential. whether thru tailed beats or other people chakra's i would try to find a way to transfer the capabilities of each eye to my own, making me unstoppable. (prob not possible at all). third reason I would be scared. My eyes would be the focal point of my enemies attacks, take them out and i would be screwed. It dose not hurt to have backups for emergencies. (even though i would prob not get anything new out of it or lose some power)

[Spicy-Naruto]

I think that he has all of those sharingans because each one has some kind of special ability, like danzos sharingan( in his right eye(itachi's friends eyes) it could put your motives inside someones head and make them think it was there own, so maybe all the eyes he has have a special ability and he likes to inner-change the eyes for different abilities.

[^Cesar^]

I think that he has all of those sharingans because each one has some kind of special ability, like danzos sharingan( in his right eye(itachi's friends eyes) it could put your motives inside someones head and make them think it was there own, so maybe all the eyes he has have a special ability and he likes to inner-change the eyes for different abilities.

Yea i think so too ...
And i have a theory about those sharingans collection. Assuming he used izanagi in order to lives at hashirama's fight, he had lost his left eye. And to supply that one, he had made some kind of removible eye spot, that way he is able to alternate between eyes, whenever he wants (maybe he is able to use even rinengan) ... I know that seems like a starwars history (yea, when anikin got sliced and replaced his lost members for robotic ones), but that would not be that strange, specially if u guys remember sasori and kakuzu abilities ...
That would explain a lot, first the reason kishi keeps hiding his face's left side and why he is getting all those eyes ... He would be able to use izanagi thousand of times and at the same time, use all exclusive abilities that some sharingans carries.

[pjoto]

Itachi said he gained Susanoo as a third MS Technique on the day he killed all of Uchia.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/392/02/
I'm thinking every Sharingan user has his own special third MS dou-jutsu. Like how Kakashi can send things into other dimensions, or how Madara can teleport.
Madara when seeing Sasuke perform Susano: "Oho, so that's Sasuke's power (however it isn't, it's Itachi's power, so we've yet to see Sasuke's power, I think anyway.)".
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/476/07/

He's probably testing each set of eyes, learning their secrets and changing to the next pair untill he's tried and learned the secrets behind all the sets he's aquired, and now all he needs is Sasuke and maybe Kakashis.

Or, here's a more likely theory. (well not really)
Madara's brother didn't give him his eyes as a present, Madara killed him and forcibly took them, but before he managed to finish him off, his brother crushed one of his eyes like Danzou. This is why Madara only has one eye, because the other eye's gone blind over the years. Now he's trying to find a new match, but none of the eyes he's found works for him. He needs a special Sharingan, probably Sasuke's because of his hot thick flaming Uchia blood or whatever.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/
But Sasuke needs to unlock some kind of skill before he can take his eyes or something, or maybe he's just more valuable alive for the time being.

[Mokeley88]

theres still a ton of stuff to be figured out from the uchiha massacre.. I think they were all killed for their eyes. was it really clear why itachi killed them all? an order from danzo? since there were so many sharingan's they could all have different abilities like shishui. he made people do things against their will. from a writers standpoint this is awesome and there are sooo many ways to take it.
[hr]
what gets me about madara is that when pain died he quiped "now i'll need someone else to merge with gedo mazo"...... what is that? and who?

[Tahl]

From my understanding the Uchiha clan is too proud to "share" the sharingan with anyone. For example they could have easily given them to the Akatsuki the first time round but he didn't.

Therefore for me there is only 3 reasons, and perhaps it is a mix of them:


1- He did it in order to protect the Sharingan, he seems to hate other people like Kakashi & Danzo using the eyes.

2- It's hinted that Danzo's main Sharingan has a special unique power, perhaps those other ones also have unique powers and he "swaps" in and out as needed.

3-The same as the answers given by others: for some sort of Jutsu like Danzo's.

[Newnarutofan]

I can see protecting them from other people, because if everyone has forgotten Kumogakure loves to steal stuff. Which is why he could be storing them having the mentality of "if i can't use them no one can"

[Centrelink]

Everything we know about the Uchia points them towards being a bloody hate filled tribe that needs to kill/maim another member to powerup to the next level.

MS - Kill your best friend.
EMS - Steal your brothers eyes .
Izanagi - Blind one eye to save yourself.

It makes 100% sense to save eyes for the future.

For all we know theres another level of Sharingan that hasnt been revealed yet that madara may have achieved.

[Hojinmaru]

These eyes are weapons that get better the more they are used and honed. Why would he NOT keep them, and to himself. It takes a sharingan user to fight another effectively as we've seen with Sasuke vs. Itachi, Sasuke vs. Danzo. While it's not impossible, why would Madara let anyone get their hands on a weapon that could potentially weaken his position and plans for domination. I find it odd that he's letting Sasuke get Itachi's eyes, and it's only so that he can use him like a tool and will probably try to retake them as part of his master plan when Sasuke no longer needed. He'll also be able to if he so chooses to, give them to any new Uchiha that awaken their MS if the clan is ever started up again (via himself or Sasukes offspring). There are many reasons to keep them, can't think of many not to.

[DementedKirby]

I believe the offspring scenario makes sense. There are no female Uchiha left. So if Sasuke wishes to resurrect his clan by playing some Marvin Gaye and have candlelit dinners, then by genetics, only some of his offspring, (maybe 0% in his children and then 50% in his grandchildren (or 100% of his offspring if the Sharingan is a dominant trait)) would have the eyes. Even if they didn't possess the Sharnigan, being Uchiha would allow you to fully dominate, without repercussion, a transplanted eye. But I doubt it. Madara could give a rat's ass about the Uchiha. He helped wipe out the clan. He's still bitter about their betrayal back in the day. He just cares about ruling the world (a pretty cliche supervillain, but what can you do?:eyeroll).


Well my friends, didnt he say that Pain wasted his ressurection jutsu on Konoha ninjas instead of him. So that definitely says that he wanted ro ressurect Uchiha clan, using that eyes, plus if it is War that means there should be army, and from all this implanting stuff that we've seen so far there definitely will be army of clones with sharingans. If he could ressurect Uchiha clan then he would have Elite force, but now he has to create clones which is weaker of course. Thats why he was so annoyed by knews about Pains death. Does it make sense?

If he was able to resurrect the clan, why does he need to remove their eyes first, if they simply come back to life? That's counter-productive. You'd then have to return the eyes to the animated corpses. Besides, he said about the ability to be used on him, not on the entire clan.
So, sorry, dude. But it made no sense :p - to me, at least :eyeroll.


I think it got something to do with his old age, maybe he needs to switch eyes every decade so that he wont age or something.

I think eternal pretty much means forever. So taking his brother's eyes gave him a permanent Mangekyou Sharingan. So why switch them every decade?


Yea i think so too ...
And i have a theory about those sharingans collection. Assuming he used izanagi in order to lives at hashirama's fight, he had lost his left eye. And to supply that one, he had made some kind of removible eye spot, that way he is able to alternate between eyes, whenever he wants (maybe he is able to use even rinengan) ... I know that seems like a starwars history (yea, when anikin got sliced and replaced his lost members for robotic ones), but that would not be that strange, specially if u guys remember sasori and kakuzu abilities ...
That would explain a lot, first the reason kishi keeps hiding his face's left side and why he is getting all those eyes ... He would be able to use izanagi thousand of times and at the same time, use all exclusive abilities that some sharingans carries.

I like this theory. That would mean that he can switch eyes in order to switch abilities during battle. But I think his other eye is a Rinnegan. I don't even know why I believe that, because the purpose of the Rinnegan is to have shared vision. I mean, who will he share the vision with?

I don't think those eyes are for the Izanagi. If so, he would've had them implanted in himself already, and also in Sasuke. If Madara has been explaining the Mangekyou's three skills to him and the downside, why not implant 30 Sharingans in him and teach him about Izanagi?

I think that only Orochimaru knew (via experimentation with Danzou) how to use so many Sharingans at once. I think Madara lost an eye using Izanagi when he was losing to Hashirama. That way, everyone thought he died. I believe that those eyes hold the secret to his immortality. I don't think his body is entirely there, and there's some kind of space/time jutsu (like Orochimaru's realm) that he uses thanks to those eyes. Remember, Kakashi does it with his Mangekyou. Other than that, I have no clue. We just gotta wait.

But I remind you all, the wait's bound to be long. How long was it since Jiraiya said that Minato wanted Naruto to control the fox? And now is when we're starting to see that part. I mean, we still don't know what Itachi gave Naruto! That's even farther behind, now!:blink

[Esg876]

Knowing tobi/madara he probably has multiple reasons one is for sure izangi because if he is madara than that is most likely how he survived the battle also in naruto chapter http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/280/19/ you can see he has circles for where sharigans will go to use izangi multiple times like danzou just a theory :)

[DARK]

Madara has learned from Danzou that multiple Sharingan eyes are better than two, that whatever jutsu he is conjuring up with his plan, that it would provide less of a risk.
It could also be interesting if Madara decides to have Kabuto use Edo Tensei to revive all of the dead Uchiha clanspeople, and brand them with these eyes so that he can create his own army.

[Hojinmaru]

Madara stated earlier that he likes to keep good eyes stockpiled, to me he's just smart and knows not to wast precious commodities. You know if he didn't collect them the leaf or another village would.

[DementedKirby]

It'd be so badass if he simply makes his whole body full of Sharingans. Like Danzou did with his arm, but only full body. Like that monster from the Power Rangers:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/powerrangers/images/thumb/1/19/MMPR_Eyeguy.jpg/220px-MMPR_Eyeguy.jpg
lol. :p

[Esg876]

Madara has learned from Danzou that multiple Sharingan eyes are better than two, that whatever jutsu he is conjuring up with his plan, that it would provide less of a risk.
It could also be interesting if Madara decides to have Kabuto use Edo Tensei to revive all of the dead Uchiha clanspeople, and brand them with these eyes so that he can create his own army.

It wouldnt matter when edo tensei is use it his a complete resurrection that means with very jutsu dojutsu and kekkai genkai so that means itachi's zombie is going to have the sharigan and the M.S lol

[iCathyxD]

My theories of why Madara is collecting the sharingan eyes.

1). To use them on the Moon Eye Plan

2). To use them on the 10-tail Jubi

3). Implant everything on his 1 eye. (lol sounds gross)

[The Closet Pervert]

The power of an Uchiha is based on his eyes. A blind Uchiha is an utterly powerless Uchiha. It's always good to have spare eyes in case someone manages to poke your eyes out.

That, and.... Izanagi. Madara may use that as a backup plan. You know, in case his Ghost Jutsu fails.

[4ghost]

Well my friends, didnt he say that Pain wasted his ressurection jutsu on Konoha ninjas instead of him. So that definitely says that he wanted ro ressurect Uchiha clan, using that eyes, plus if it is War that means there should be army, and from all this implanting stuff that we've seen so far there definitely will be army of clones with sharingans. If he could ressurect Uchiha clan then he would have Elite force, but now he has to create clones which is weaker of course. Thats why he was so annoyed by knews about Pains death. Does it make sense?

The resurrection of the Uchiha clan makes sense to me too.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4306/31928245.th.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/31928245.jpg/)

I kind of get the feeling that Madara had wanted to use the Gedo Rinne Tensei for creating his Uchiha army. Perhaps that Rinnengan jutsu requires at least some preserved or living cells in order to successfully resurrect the body.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3002/99169637.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/99169637.jpg/)

With him still targeting the Rinnengan I think he somehow still intends to use that jutsu. He even referenced it being needed before starting the war.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3869/92475201.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/92475201.jpg/)

Judging by what one of his goals are, to "force people to acknowledge the Uchiha", it's quite understandable that he would desire to use such a force for his war.

Although it may not have been appreciated at the time, I believe that a couple of things from the previous 2 arcs set it up as a real possibility. The first of course being Nagato's ability to resurrect people on a massive scale and the Hell realm's ability to essentially do the same thing, except in that case it was the complete restoration of a souless corpse. The other thing was the mysterious Shisui like ability that put even the 4th Mizukage under their control. That ability could make the Uchiha army completely under Madara's control.

[elitefox]

obviously, he is an eye collector!


just kidding


I think he needs the power of eyes to make the mugen tsukiyomi to work

satellites are scattered around the globe not just one to fill up every spot.

[benelori]

I think that he could use it to tame Jyuubi in order to seal it into himself easily, or I thought of maybe these serving a sort of focusing role...he needs the eyes to correctly distribute and focus his Mugen Tsukuyomi...similar maybe to what elitefox^^ said

[CoB]

Is it possible for madara to have transplanted the rinnegan in sasuke? He said he did want to sync him with gedo and he needed to get them before the war broke out..?

[maaseru]

I don't know if I'm on topic , but what about this : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/487/04/

I think Madara says this to Kakashi because he knows of his ability. Maybe he knows from Deidara, but what if he knows because he is some sort of researcher/scientist kinda like Orochimaru was.

Or maybe, just maybe the eyes "MAdara" has is Kakashi's/Obito pair and that is why they both seem to have space/time ability in their eyes. Like that's their specialty only "Madara"'s is a bit advanced.

[quick_al]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/482/13/


What i have been wondering for a while is what is up with this?

What does madara has such a huge collection of eyes?

What do you guys think?

merged threads

[Kawaiii]

To seal them in a single eye and use their power just like killerbee with the hachibi

[zerocooldx]

Well probably the most logical answer would be that Madara collected all of those eyes, from dead Uchiha i assume, so that they couldn't be used and studied by none Uchihas. We have all seen how important dou-jutsu are, and to what lengths people would to go in order to obtain and protect them.

[gnut]

maybe 1 of 2 things,he's been using them as replacement eyes,like susano space/time jutsu takes a toll.madara might be so versed at it that a normal sharigan can be used.or,he's been searching for shisui's eyes and danzo and itachi had them.now he has what has been looking for,let sasuke develop them even more then try and take them back.unless he is holding the uchiha clan's eyes,ones he could gather during the massacre to make his own army/clan.i've said before his convo with danzo was to formal,for just knowing his rep.

[arby2k]

Thinks Tobi is going for the power of the sharingan, byakugan, and the Rinnegan.

[Kuranzyan]

I thought it was obvious the moment Danzou opted to use Izanagi and Madara explained from the sidelines... Madara/Tobi was extraordinarily aware of the characteristics of that jutsu, as opposed to Sasuke, who merely assumed 'one eye for one life', not that it was in fact a reality altering jutsu.

[Bleda]

Thinks Tobi is going for the power of the sharingan, byakugan, and the Rinnegan.

Where is he going to poke Byakugan, in to his butt?

I know it has it's own thread but I must say it.

Byakugan is pretty much dead and even it isn't it is probably get going to be connected to Sage, which means we will get to see more eye transplant and everyone is sick of this doujutsu madness don't you think?

[gnut]

i know i know...but just finished watching this week's episode...but this was in the manga too...and it reminded me of something.tobi/madara was pretty pissed off about nagato using his ressurrection jutsu on konoha.what is he really after...is he trying to bring back the uchiha clan by becoming the next sage?could the rinnegan bring back the long dead?could this mean jiraiya was able to be brought back...or he was not dead to begin with?
let's all remember jiraiya...this man spent plenty of years as a spy...laying low...or like i said...he may have been able to be revived.the rinnegan was useful to tobi for that jutsu...but he said sasuke could sync with gedo mazu...so there is definitely a more complex reason other than using izanagi...to have all those eyes for all these years.i mentioned in another thread...if he was using izanagi before the danzo/sasuke fight that he would have no need for a gang like akatsuki.during that fight he was quite surprised of izanagi and the fact that danzo was using it.these are only my theories but there is another motive besides peace or world domination.
this manga has been about people losing the ones they love and driving on...but there are the ones who want their family back.could tobi/madara be a narutoverse redo of mr.grinch or golem/smeagle from LotR...lol:p:
sorry for the long post...maybe i already had toooo many:errto me it looks like a loner/hermit out for revenge because of his hurt...not thinking about who he hurts....but all bullshit aside...tobi/madara is definitely a man of mystery.

[luffyg2]

I though he was going to put them in the zetsus (army).. cause right now they are really useless I dont think they even killed anyone

[mattiaildivino]

to use Izanagi as many times as he wants.he also said he wanted strong eyes,but it's plan is surely something else.

[Aki1991]

i thought he wanted them for izanagi
but when he bacomes the rikudo he can spam izanagi withou becoming blin, so i really don´t knwo what he wants with this, maybe it is his hobby to collect eyes :D

[Eprst]

I think he wants to revive clan, thats why he was so mad about Pain dying and using his reviving jutsu on Konoha people instead of Uchiha clan. I am pretty sure we will see more Uchihas, Edo Tensei of Itachi is example :)

[benelori]

I think he wants to revive clan, thats why he was so mad about Pain dying and using his reviving jutsu on Konoha people instead of Uchiha clan. I am pretty sure we will see more Uchihas, Edo Tensei of Itachi is example :)

Pein's jutsu resurrected only people that have died recently...i has no effect on the long dead...and I don't really think he needs the Uchiha clan by now...I mean he ended up hating and killing them...

[Eprst]

Yeah well I meant Sasuke, I think if there would be an opportunity to revive them Sasuke will do that. Madaras plan focuses on him, so of course he will use these eyes on him to make him stronger. But I think tere is a limit - there is now way even person with Uchiha and Senju body can handle that much power.

If Pain's jutsu workes like you say, then... whom did Madara want to revive? Is it army of white zetsus after them being defeated?

[benelori]

Yeah well I meant Sasuke, I think if there would be an opportunity to revive them Sasuke will do that. Madaras plan focuses on him, so of course he will use these eyes on him to make him stronger. But I think tere is a limit - there is now way even person with Uchiha and Senju body can handle that much power.

If Pain's jutsu workes like you say, then... whom did Madara want to revive? Is it army of white zetsus after them being defeated?

Well Madara did say that the jutsu was for himself...now I don't know if he referred to himself as the person, or his goal...but if it is the latter then there's probably another application of the jutsu, that we don't know about...IMO it was in the case Madara actually died, so that he would have another escape route except Izanagi

[luffyg2]

Maybe its back up eyes for him. With those he would be able to use Izanagi any time he want without having to worry about loosing his eye cause he got a ton more to replace it

[kkck]

Perhaps the moons eye plan? He wants to shoot a huge tsukioyomi to the moon and use that to put the world under a huge genjutsu. Perhaps even with the chakra of the ten tails it would be too much stress for a lone sharingan and he intents to actually use all of them at the same time for the genjutsu. A pair of eyes does not cut it? Easy, then us 1000 pairs.

[Montai]

His Sharingwall... Is it 50 pairs of uchiha eyes, or 100 pairs? Anybody get what I'm asking here?