One Piece 576 Discussion / 577 Prediction

[Fox666]

I love how Edward last words are "One Piece... it exists!" and how irritated is Sengoku

[Primecut]

Blackbeard isn't a coward at all, or he wouldn't recklessly storm into all of the dangerous situations he has so far. He's a cheerfully underhanded sneak without any honour whatsoever, which was the point of that scene.

He first betrays Whitebeard by killing two of his adopted sons, then tries to play on his old fatherly feelings in an attempt to make him lower his guard, and then cackles as his allies sprays his commander since over 20 years with bullets.

He just doesn't care about concepts like justice, loyalty, truthfulness, or dignity. It's what he's about. He's like a mixture of patient schemer, big-eating life-reveller, reckless gambler, and genuinely amoral Internet troll. I think that he's a great unusual villain, a true asshole.

I didn't say Blackbeard wasnt a good villain but he is still a coward. The begging for Whitebeard to not kill him part was out of fear for his life, not to set up some scheme to lower Whitebeard's guard. I mean, Blackbeard thought he could manhandle Whitebeard ALONE and was crapping is pants when he failed then panicked and called for help, that's all I saw. He got lucky Whitebeard was too weak to finish him or perhaps the devil fruit suppressed his earthquake on Blackbeard's face. Anyway, even Whitebeard said he was a coward, I'll take WB at his word.

[Shurou]

In a subtle way, I had forgotten that the ultimate goal of this manga is for Luffy to find One Piece to become the Pirate King... It was almost as if Oda was reassuring the reader that One Piece isn't some bullshit "One Piece is the friends you have around you" or some other lame end, but a tangible, existent thing whose existence is sure to turn the world upside down. I'm sure many in the OP world had also long stopped believing in its existence, but yet, just like when Roger died, Whitebeard leaves a statement that is sure to set aflame the hearts of pirates worldwide.

Ace had it spot on when he declared the name of this era "Whitebeard".

RIP, Edward Newgate.

[THM Nindo]

In a subtle way, I had forgotten that the ultimate goal of this manga is for Luffy to find One Piece to become the Pirate King... It was almost as if Oda was reassuring the reader that One Piece isn't some bullshit "One Piece is the friends you have around you" or some other lame end, but a tangible, existent thing whose existence is sure to turn the world upside down. I'm sure many in the OP world had also long stopped believing in its existence, but yet, just like when Roger died, Whitebeard leaves a statement that is sure to set aflame the hearts of pirates worldwide.

Ace had it spot on when he declared the name of this era "Whitebeard".

RIP, Edward Newgate.

People did stop believing in it...
The arc on Jaya was pretty much about it...

The new pirate aren't dreamers... and Blackbeard was introduced as one of the dreamers, just like Luffy...

With Whitebeard reitering that One piece exist, it will surely make some of those pirates go back into believing that it is true.

[JetPistol]

As for the panel showing Ace being left behind on the other other half of Marinford with Whitebeard, its pretty much illustrating Ace and Whitebeard aren't going to be joining their friends in the new world/new era :D
Please no cyborg theories! I could imagine that Vegapunk would of made Gold Roger into a cyborg if that was the case since marines had possession of his body as well.

[Katz]

Still can't believe that Ace AND WB died this arc, I was maybe expecting WB to go in the end....but I didn't think Luffy would chase chase chase and nearly die a couple times just to watch his brother die......yet no big losses on the marine's side.....admiral is 50/50 at this point, but the pirates get to keep one thing their pride....the marine's look like shit infront of the world.

[Bugzee]

We'll probably get the reaction from people around the world next chapter. SA will go nuts! WB's last words gave BB a greater boost of determination imo. Sengoku's defintely screwed. I'm glad BB out did Sengoku. :D

I want more WB & Roger flashbacks! :shakefist

[chess4]

tis battle was a complete lose for the pirates. they gained nothing. WB,ace, and oars jr all seem to be dead, among countless other pirates. also luffy has had a mntal breakdown and just made himself a bigger target.

the WB pirates are still are force, but they have lost their captain, 2nd division commander, and their 3rd is frozen and could be missing an arm.

also luffy lost 10 years of his life for nothing

[Chronorox]

just a quick question: is it confirmed that this black circle around WB, when he smashes BB in the ground, is indeed a quake-related attack? or could it possibly be an attack supported by the king's haki?

[deffkryz]

Please no cyborg theories! I could imagine that Vegapunk would of made Gold Roger into a cyborg if that was the case since marines had possession of his body as well.

Well, Roger died 22 years ago and was already halfway rotten due to his sickness plus it's common sense that Vegapunk didn't have that much of progress to create a cyborg. So: Declining that Vegapunk could make cyborgs out of WB and Ace out of the "fact" that Roger hasn't shown up as a cyborg is quite ridiculous, isn't it? There are cyborgs modelled after Kuma - and they're created in mass production. So it's possible.

I don't want to see neither WB nor Ace cyborgs as well, but if Oda wants to put them into his story, we can't stop him.


just a quick question: is it confirmed that this black circle around WB, when he smashes BB in the ground, is indeed a quake-related attack? or could it possibly be an attack supported by the king's haki?

No, that is no haki but the concentrated power of his DF power. Anything else doesn't make any sense. See here (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9).

[Marche]

If you reread from the beginning, you will see that roger was always called gold roger from the authors pov.
Not until much later (after he established the d story in his head) did he start to call him gol d roger in those author pov explanations.

Yes you are being naive if you think that was planned from the beginning.

Im also a story writer and i can tell you, writing stories, most of the time, is a very dynamic thing.
A basic concept is all you start with, but thats already pretty much it as far as planning ahead goes.
You cant risk putting that much time/money/effort into "just" planning a story ahead.
If the story flops and isnt selling well you are essentially screwed. All your effort gone to waste.

Life isnt as forgiving as you make it out to be.
From a financial standpoint alone it is impossible to plan any further than a basic concept.
But i also said that this is how story writing works.
Nothing wrong with that, it lies in the business.I think than Oda decided "Gol D Roger" from the beginning.
Initially Roger was called "Gold Roger" only because so he was known from the people, in fact the doctor Kureha said this http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/154/07/ and in the next page http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/154/08/ (and that same chapter Ace did his first appearance).
And thing Roger said himself in this chapter: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/11

[Black Lagoon]

tis battle was a complete lose for the pirates. they gained nothing. WB,ace, and oars jr all seem to be dead, among countless other pirates. also luffy has had a mntal breakdown and just made himself a bigger target.

the WB pirates are still are force, but they have lost their captain, 2nd division commander, and their 3rd is frozen and could be missing an arm.

also luffy lost 10 years of his life for nothing

this is just the beginning and we will see the aftermaths of this war (I mean the real ones) in the future
Those who have lost faith and gave up ... those who missed Roger's last words ... now they know that the One Piece EXIST :shakefist

EDIT

R.I.P Edward NewGate (known as WHITEBEARD)
:scry

[Twar]

Demotivating losses can sometimes lead to large developments. We will see...
Oda has really drawn out the theme of Luffy's emotional life well - we have never had to worry about Luffy's feelings or mental well-being, he was always the one to keep faith and fight until the end. Now that something really tragic has hit so close to home for him, we as the readers are almost unwillingly compelled to ask: "How are you, Luffy?"

[ZenoArmani]

I didn't say Blackbeard wasnt a good villain but he is still a coward. The begging for Whitebeard to not kill him part was out of fear for his life, not to set up some scheme to lower Whitebeard's guard. I mean, Blackbeard thought he could manhandle Whitebeard ALONE and was crapping is pants when he failed then panicked and called for help, that's all I saw. He got lucky Whitebeard was too weak to finish him or perhaps the devil fruit suppressed his earthquake on Blackbeard's face. Anyway, even Whitebeard said he was a coward, I'll take WB at his word.Whereas what I saw was something much much worse than a coward, and behaving in the character I've expected from him, using any sneak tactics he can and changing behaviour at the drop of a hat if he feels like it. The gambit didn't work as well as planned, but he still got Whitebeard killed. Or that's how I read it anyway.

Also, Whitebeard said this:

"Overconfidence and carelessness... is your weakness...."

Which I agree with. No mention of cowardice though.
[hr]

Half of BB's crew was defeated by Ace and Magellan. It's irrefutable they're still not strong enough to compete with any high-tier fighter. We still don't know how strong BB's additional recruits are as compared to top-tier fighters save Shiryu. That also doesn't change the fact that BB is still heavily outnumbered. Do you think any of the Yonkou would have any problems with BB and company? Do you think MHQ would have any problems with BB and company? Fuck no. It's because the other major players have plenty of high-tier fighters to spare in their own ranks.Well, we do know that Katarina Devon is supposed to have been the strongest female pirate in the world, that Blackbeard was strong enough to barely defeat a logia, that Shiryuu is almost equal to Magellan, that San Juan is the biggest pirate in the world, and that Vasco Shot at least was horrible enough to be imprisoned in level 6 and have all records of his existence erased.

The original crew seems much less impressive though, and we don't know about how Pizarro rates. Still, that's possibly 3-4 people at close to admiral level. Not bad at all.

[dark lord]

possibly next chapter we'll get to see the strawhats i mean this is a conclusion , and this epic dead is gonna be ruined if oda does switch to other events , the way oda wrote the last page usually indicates that this war has ended as whitebeard died .
we might see the supernovas reaction they are gonna start competing even more now that they know that none of them is meant to be PK and luffy will be frequently targeted in the futur ( BB , two of the yonkou, SN ) cea"'&iuo .
i want to know what dragon is doing he could be on SA right now usually he doesnt miss such scenes.
rayleigh also must have been watching i wonder if we will see him next .
so where's luffy going ? how is he gonna meet up with the crew ? it would be nice if oda focuses on each strawhat to show what they have been doing during this time and will it be enough for them to have major powerups ? also robin could have learned more from the RA .
whats gonna happen to boa hancock and her land there is a big chance that her status migh be revoked .
marine ford is completly destroyed now is it gonna be constructed again .

[Uzumaki_10]

OMG OMG OMG... WB is a really monster.
I want know more about "the will of D!" T.T ...

[Shurou]

People did stop believing in it...
The arc on Jaya was pretty much about it...

The new pirate aren't dreamers... and Blackbeard was introduced as one of the dreamers, just like Luffy...

With Whitebeard reitering that One piece exist, it will surely make some of those pirates go back into believing that it is true.

Ah yes, of course... Totally forgot about it. IIRC, Kid and Law were shown to already believe One Piece as well, right? So not all faith was lost... =p

[Black Lagoon]

OMG OMG OMG... WB is a really monster.
I want know more about "the will of D!" T.T ...

that's not important now (sooner or later we'll find out the real meaning of that "D" and as long as BB that Coward has nothing to do with it I'm fine :notrust)
Now we have to focus on the escape

[Bugzee]

@ dark lord - Wouldn't it be cool if at the end of next chapter, where the timeskip may officially occur/start, we get several panels dedicated to the rest of the SH's and what they're doing! :nuts

Mission objective for the rest of the supernova's: support/aid the pirates to escape from Marineford???? :blink

I don't think it'll happen...I guess it's too late in the war for them to make an entrance now. :darn

[PaPiPuPePo~]

woha:jawdrop
first i read Naruto and i was thinking finally naruto gets interessing
BUT THEN
One piece
every page was like :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop
thats the epics chapter oda make :clap just awesome ;) i like the last words

i hope they dont make ace to a cyborg :crying or zombie XD
I STILL THINK HES IS ALIVE >__<''''' maybe bon chan is ace XD hahah and ace is somewhere:sweatbunny :facepalm

i love blackbeards reaction when he see whitebeard is still standing XDDDD
but thats so mean what blackbeard did <_< he couldnt handle itself XD

[beastboy]

You are completely missing my point. BB would not have trouble stealing a ship. Any MHQ warship would do. Sengoku didn't know BB stole a ship right under his nose until said ship arrived at Impel Down. Furthermore, nobody had a clue on how they got through the Gates of Justice until Lafitte's explanation. BB has also shown little trouble penetrating MHQ strongholds. How many times do I have to repeat the fact that Lafitte sneaked into MHQ once unnoticed?
Ok, he can stole a ship... Laffite could open the gates... and he would slip through everyone till he freed the level 6 prisioners??

Well.. that could work, They wouldn't even need to go through the Tarai current.. but would be crushed by the ID forces on the entry...

So his plan was, become a shichibukai, wich would give him access to Marine Ford...
On Marine Ford he would open the gates to lett them pass, then, cause its a marine ship he came from the Gates, he escaped the perimetre... but he was on the entry...
Being a shichibukai caused doubt to the ID Soldiers...
But the main point of him being a shichibukai was that he would know when a rucus ocurs in ID, and so he would have less trouble...




For all we know, other pirates have stolen MHQ warships before but never had a reason to break into Impel Down. (Pirates seem to have a tendency of sinking them in Whitebeard's case.) That's also not the issue at hand here. The question is how easy BB would have breaking into Impel Down without the Shichibukai title, and from what we've seen, BB would have little trouble making preparations to do such a thing.



Half of BB's crew was defeated by Ace and Magellan. It's irrefutable they're still not strong enough to compete with any high-tier fighter. We still don't know how strong BB's additional recruits are as compared to top-tier fighters save Shiryu. That also doesn't change the fact that BB is still heavily outnumbered. Do you think any of the Yonkou would have any problems with BB and company? Do you think MHQ would have any problems with BB and company? Fuck no. It's because the other major players have plenty of high-tier fighters to spare in their own ranks.

So you addmited... BB had to become a shichi, because he is not strong enough to bit the crap out of maggelan, so he had to wait the right moment... and this gave him immediat access in case of rucus, reasonable doubt for the marines trying to stop him, and a easy travell till the gate of ID...

And I steel don't see how do you expected BB to pass the entrance... its guarded by lots and lots of marine boats...

[PaPiPuPePo~]

that's not important now (sooner or later we'll find out the real meaning of that "D" and as long as BB that Coward has nothing to do with it I'm fine :notrust)
Now we have to focus on the escape

Blackbeard IS A BIIGG COWARD
Iam so happy that he has nothing to do with the will of D ;)
sorry to say but he has not the balls to fight
that makes me all the day angry XD like ID one hit dead XDDD and now with whitebeard :mad:mad

[THM Nindo]

It's been a long time since the three main manga were so good at the same time!!

One Piece has been good for a long time, even though this arc has been really long...
I can't wait to see what's coming next!!

[Uzumaki_10]

BeastBoy is correct Only chance for BB WAS IF Laffite hypnotise the guards IN ID but is impossible and over power.

[chess4]

its been 2 years since the strawhats have been together but its only been about 2 weeks one piece time. maybe we get about 6 months before they get back together

[Superman]

Do you even notice how great this chapter is?? Not only because it is well written and drawn, but how connecting this is in this thread right now.

I have never ever seen so much people who thank each other for their posts. On every fucking site users say thank you. Oda you did a great job!:D:D

[monkey D luffy]

BB has withdrawn his former name and is no longer considered in the eyes of WB, i feel so too thats why BB wont be getting to one piece.

[chess4]

since ace is now dead, that only leaves 4 D's alive, garp, dragon, luffy, and BB. does anyone else think another D will surface?

i still cant believe ace is dead he was such a great character. i wonder who will get the quake and flame fruit? maybe koby and helmelppo

none of the strawhats have a great fruit ability like the other crews. i hope their next powerups will signigicant cause they are going to need it.

i think next chapter we will see the reaction to WB's death then maybe we will see what the strawhats are doing

[THM Nindo]

since ace is now dead, that only leaves 4 D's alive, garp, dragon, luffy, and BB. does anyone else think another D will surface?

i still cant believe ace is dead he was such a great character. i wonder who will get the quake and flame fruit? maybe koby and helmelppo

I have a feeling that Shanks might be a D.

About the Flame and Quake...
I too believe that Coby might get one, because he really need a powerup if he want to rivalize with Luffy...

And it's not out of the question that one of the Strawhat might get one...
Nami for example... she can use Fire, Ice, Lighting and soon Wind... the only element left is earth... so maybe she will get the Quake Fruit !!! :tem

[javedkarim]

wow that was really a great chapter it was the rocking one!!

still BB was not even near the level of injured WB even!! So this is the true power of the king. WB will be now called as the father of the pirate and he make this title by himself.
What a man WB is??

thank you for such a nice chapter man!!!

[_AceOfSpades_]

I have a feeling that Shanks might be a D.


Yeah, actually, since Whitebeard knew that Luffy carries the will of D from his King's haki then it would make sense if Shanks (who does seem to have king's haki as well) would be a D as well. I wonder where it leaves Rayleigh, though... shouldn't be he a D as well @.@ I guess we have to wait for a clarification from Oda ...

[Poneglyph420]

since ace is now dead, that only leaves 4 D's alive, garp, dragon, luffy, and BB. does anyone else think another D will surface?

i still cant believe ace is dead he was such a great character. i wonder who will get the quake and flame fruit? maybe koby and helmelppo

none of the strawhats have a great fruit ability like the other crews. i hope their next powerups will signigicant cause they are going to need it.

i think next chapter we will see the reaction to WB's death then maybe we will see what the strawhats are doing

I sure do hope that there are more "D's" out there, but maybe not of the impact that the Monkey family has..

Yes, I loved Ace... almost above all other pirates (but never more than Smoker, or Dragon..) But yeah he's dead, and I'm sure he will RIP.
Garp will bet his life on it.

I have posted in the SH powerup thread a post that talks about the supposed "powerups.."

I really hope that the lost fruits of Ace and WB aren't simply snatched up and used as novelty...

If they show up again Oda will make it work, but hopefully it makes more than a DF to make a capable crew.... maybe like experience, knowledge, and self reliance.......
[hr]

Yeah, actually, since Whitebeard knew that Luffy carries the will of D from his King's haki then it would make sense if Shanks (who does seem to have king's haki as well) would be a D as well. I wonder where it leaves Rayleigh, though... shouldn't be he a D as well @.@ I guess we have to wait for a clarification from Oda ...

Wouldn't that make WB a D too???

[goldb]

I have a feeling that Shanks might be a D.

About the Flame and Quake...
I too believe that Coby might get one, because he really need a powerup if he want to rivalize with Luffy...

And it's not out of the question that one of the Strawhat might get one...
Nami for example... she can use Fire, Ice, Lighting and soon Wind... the only element left is earth... so maybe she will get the Quake Fruit !!! :tem

I dont think any of the Strawhats will eat devil fruits, I think they'll power up accordingly but not with df powers. I hope Coby gets an ability that way he can improve.

I don't know if it's been touched upon but there's been further evidence from Roger and WB's discussion to WB's declaration at Marine HQ that the Ds are from the lost kingdom and I feel One Piece is more than just treasure.

[Black Lagoon]

Blackbeard IS A BIIGG COWARD
Iam so happy that he has nothing to do with the will of D ;)
sorry to say but he has not the balls to fight
that makes me all the day angry XD like ID one hit dead XDDD and now with whitebeard :mad:mad

A coward would be an improvement for him he's just pathetic WTF!! he was begging for his life like a little sissy girl -_-;
I hate Akainu but this guy is ... is **** BE A MAN MAN sissy girl :nerve
I can believe this "girl" will have the balls to fight a man like Luffy (event Akainu) :darn

[chess4]

I have a feeling that Shanks might be a D.

About the Flame and Quake...
I too believe that Coby might get one, because he really need a powerup if he want to rivalize with Luffy...

And it's not out of the question that one of the Strawhat might get one...
Nami for example... she can use Fire, Ice, Lighting and soon Wind... the only element left is earth... so maybe she will get the Quake Fruit !!! :tem

i sure shanks isnt his real name so maybe. also smoker could be a D, since smoker cant be his name. those are my top 2

[Moses911]

I finally realizethat teach will not be the final opponent. Or rather he isn't worthy of being lufffy's last obstacle. Just look at him for a second. His devilfruit and pure strength make him seem like a real tough guy but look again. Notice his fear of whitebeard and how he made his crew fight with him. Every person with the initial D has been fearless and strong enough to back it up. That's why i think the Marshall D. Teach is actually just Marshall Teach and he just found out what the "D" meant and took it on for himself. He is not an inheritor of the will of d because he doesn't actually possess the blood of D within him make's sense, afterall he is the villian right?

[Schabrak]

I have a feeling that Shanks might be a D.
Don't think so, as Oda always mentioned the D. at their first introduction.[the box with name title etc.] It's just the hakoshou haki has nothing to do with the will of D..

My thought of Blackbeard: snakiest and most cowardly pirate ever born. I'm just sad that Luffy did not see that attack on him. His anger would grow unlimited and he would have fuel to go against BB even more.

[Bugzee]

It's extremely early for anyone to gain/find/retrieve the flame or quake fruit. If we do see a new user, it won't be for a long time. I defintely agree, that Coby needs to become stronger so he can become an admiral one day *maybe :s*. Coby's got a long way to go. He might eventually consume a df, but I highly doubt that it would be the flame or quake fruit. :darn

Shanks a D? Maybe. But, I feel that if he was a D, why remove/hide it now? Shanks ain't the type to hide such a thing imo.

[Marche]

Perhaps the full name of Kaidoh or of the other unknown Younkou, but I don't knew of Shanks.

[CBlitz]

A coward would be an improvement for him he's just pathetic WTF!! he was begging for his life like a little sissy girl -_-;
I hate Akainu but this guy is ... is **** BE A MAN MAN sissy girl :nerve
I can believe this "girl" will have the balls to fight a man like Luffy (event Akainu) :darn

lol I think Blackbeard is pretty funny, although he is despicable character. Even so, before the Skypiea arc when Luffy and BB first met, I thought he was pretty cool when he and Luffy had that conversation about dreams or something.

[Spaceman-Spiff]

Please no revival-stuff.....i hated it in Dragonball, i hated it in Naruto with Gaara and i will hate in One Piece. If someone dies he should stay dead otherwise (i think) the dead has no meaning.

Then you will like what Oda-sensei said back in 2007: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1460589&postcount=591

[Black Lagoon]

lol I think Blackbeard is pretty funny, although he is despicable character. Even so, before the Skypiea arc when Luffy and BB first met, I thought he was pretty cool when he and Luffy had that conversation about dreams or something.

Yeah, me too ... I feel like I need to do this ":facepalm" ... I was considering him a dark version of Luffy, But com'on a Dark V. of Luffy wouldn't it be "what's the word" ... hmm ... CRUEL?? (Pathetic). -_-;

here's a man http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v07/c051/19.html

[Schabrak]

Both Roger and Shanks on the same ship and both D.s? Unlikely, just being honest. And what's up with that Teach not being a D. I really hate that people connect last names with somebodies characteristics. It's true that the 3 generations of Monkey have stong personalities, but we just don't know how many D.s are hiding themself or have lost the D. long time ago, because they forgot what it's about. Just look at Soul he was a normal nice giant, but nothing like Luffy or Roger.

[Uriel]

I finally realizethat teach will not be the final opponent. Or rather he isn't worthy of being lufffy's last obstacle. Just look at him for a second. His devilfruit and pure strength make him seem like a real tough guy but look again. Notice his fear of whitebeard and how he made his crew fight with him. Every person with the initial D has been fearless and strong enough to back it up. That's why i think the Marshall D. Teach is actually just Marshall Teach and he just found out what the "D" meant and took it on for himself. He is not an inheritor of the will of d because he doesn't actually possess the blood of D within him make's sense, afterall he is the villian right?
That's something interesting to say, but because of the reasons you mention I think Teach will be the last opponent.

And I honestly doubt we will see Flame and Quake fruit soon. At least not until the Strawhats are in the middle of the New World and Vegapunk reveals us a bit more about them.


As a final note, I think Schabrak is right. Pushing all the pieces to make them fit is not how a case is solved. I don't think that the "Will of D" share that many things but the determination. It's the same than Kings Disposition Haki, seems that EVERY strong character MUST have it. And it's not like that how it works.

[Black Lagoon]

Both Roger and Shanks on the same ship and both D.s? Unlikely, just being honest. And what's up with that Teach not being a D. I really hate that people connect last names with somebodies characteristics. It's true that the 3 generations of Monkey have stong personalities, but we just don't know how many D.s are hiding themself or have lost the D. long time ago, because they forgot what it's about. Just look at Soul he was a normal nice giant, but nothing like Luffy or Roger.

Agree with Shanks is not a D and the unmarked text, I just want to point this, what's the matter with 2 "D" on the same ship? :blink I mean there's nothing wrong with it ... in fact Portgas D. Ace and Marshall D. Teach were on the same ship. :amuse

[Uriel]

Agree with Shanks is not a D and the unmarked text, I just want to point this, what's the matter with 2 "D" on the same ship? :blink I mean there's nothing wrong with it ... in fact Portgas D. Ace and Marshall D. Teach were on the same ship. :amuse
Unless Marshall is not a real D like Whitebeard stated! O_O

[deffkryz]

Mission objective for the rest of the supernova's: support/aid the pirates to escape from Marineford???? :blink

Actually, I think Oda's adaption of the Standing Death of Benkei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sait%C5%8D_Musashib%C5%8D_Benkei) is a huge hint, that the pirates now will make a more or less safe escape without the Rookies to show up.

And since I'm disappointed on how the Blackbeard Pirates took out Whitebeard (by gun fire and sword cuts?!) I hope for Blackbeard to take out at least Kizaru while San Juan destroys MHQ...

[Black Lagoon]

Unless Marshall is not a real D like Whitebeard stated! O_O

Probably, but as Schabrak stated : not every D is supposed to be as cool as Luffy and Roger. Some may develop or follow Roger's will and some may lose it. :)

[dark lord]

And since I'm disappointed on how the Blackbeard Pirates took out Whitebeard (by gun fire and sword cuts?!) I hope for Blackbeard to take out at least Kizaru while San Juan destroys MHQ...

i think those are no ordinary bullets kairoseki ones maybe , they probably got them from ID .
and blackbeard taking out kizaru . i dont think so kizaru is just too fast for him

[THM Nindo]

I don't think that Whitebeard meant that Blackbeard was not a D.
I think he meant he was not the D.

I think there's most likely that Roger knew that one day, one of the D. would found what he left in One Piece and would reveal the secrets.
Whitebeard is just saying that BlackBeard will not be that man... most likely it will be Luffy!

But I could be wrong :tem

[Black Lagoon]

i think those are no ordinary bullets kairoseki ones maybe , they probably got them from ID .
and blackbeard taking out kizaru . i dont think so kizaru is just too fast for him
They unloaded their guns on him on a half dead old man ... I'm glad Buggy's there to broadcast a Legend's death to the entire world and let the whole world see how coward is the bastard that is going to have a great impact in the story.

[Uriel]

It's rather interesting to think about a Chosen One, but it would be also a bit cliché in this kind of series...I prefer to think that there is a common trait between D's that Teach doesn't have (And therefore, a "fake" D) than ONE D.

Maybe One Piece on Raftel is the device to activate by blood the lost kingdom. <random thought>

[dark lord]

i just think its not fair that the Ds are the only ones to be PK i have a feeling that if luffy had heard WB last words it would have gone against his personality as he stated he likes adventure and mystery i mean i dont like the concept of the chosen one .

[Uriel]

Luckily, Luffy did not hear that part D: Seems so casual it makes me disturbed. XD

[Black Lagoon]

Newgate had the opportunity to get One Piece and turned it down, he probably know about the void century and all what Roger discovered.

[Lunatic Scream]

I don't think Ds are the only ones that can be PK. We still know absolutely nothing about Ds. What we know now, however is that just because you have the D in your name, doesn't make you special... and just because you don't have a D in your name, doesn't mean you can't change the world.

[Zatono]

So, I'm hoping for some Garp action next chapter, along with Shichibukai reactions, and the admirals kicking the BB pirates asses. Seriously, they can't just escape unharmed...that'd be ridiculous. I don't care what WB did to BB, everyone else has to do something.

[BlkHorus]

Some keep saying that "D." is not related and that teach isn't a "D."

WB just said that teach isn't the one that the Marines are anticipating. THe one that will show the will of D. is someone else - luffy. Since the whole deal with that "will of D." still is a mystery, I'm just glad that Oda brought it back around again. Remember Robin was interested in that aspect of Luffy too when on Alabasta and sky island.

[Black Lagoon]

I don't think Ds are the only ones that can be PK. We still know absolutely nothing about Ds. What we know now, however is that just because you have the D in your name, doesn't make you special... and just because you don't have a D in your name, doesn't mean you can't change the world.

Agree, but I think that only the a real D can reach Raftel ... you know, a real D's will can push him beyond his limits and stuff that would help him to fulfill his goal.

[dark lord]

in fact i dont think it has anything to do with one piece i mean chaging the world , luffy appearantly doesnt give a damn about one piece . i never understood the relation between being PK and having a treasure . thats how the great pirates are changing the world thats all it matters i just think that blackbeard will find the treasure but wont be called a pirate king .

[SenninSage]

Perhaps only one who possesses the King's Disposition Haki, like Luffy does, can truly ever gain access to One Piece.

[Black Lagoon]

Perhaps only one who possesses the King's Disposition Haki, like Luffy does, can truly ever gain access to One Piece.

If we talk about what could be one piece, I guess it's gonna be a non-stop ... I mean Imagination is Greater than Knowledge and as far as I know imagining is free ^^, One Piece can be just what you read "One piece", a piece of something to change the world. :tem

But the good thing here is what WhiteBeard confirmed : One Piece Exist :shakefist (for those who have already lost faith and gave up on it)

[Schabrak]

Is nobody wondering why Roger has not taken the info from Raftel about the Void Century and has changed the world himself. He may could have done it himself, being the strongest pirate at the time, but resisted.
Why was his reason to wait for the next person? Was he not interested himself, just being and romantic adventurer, did he not want to harm his nakama, knowing about his illness allready, did he knew, that there were not enough good people to help him[Revolutionaries and pirates like Luffy]?

We got to know that there is something called One Piece on a hidden place named Raftel, that Ace knew about it himself. Do all people besides Luffy know that that misterious place is named Raftel? It's questionable that Whitebeard had told them[his sons] about that place, as it was a private meeting with Roger back than. Is the One Piece a last piece city of the old kingdom or just a poneglyph with all the truth? And the most important thing. Will Luffy ever care about? Will he change his attitude now or only when he get's to his goal?

[dark lord]

because roger was ill probably didnt have much left to set up the big change at least his last words somehow influenced the world .
also his enemies were more around the world the governement tried to spread bad reputation about him .

[Black Lagoon]

I guess that he wanted to gather more pirates to be sure of what WhiteBeard said in the end.
But Yeah, he could have done it himself ... and WhiteBeard was there too.

[kempaichi209]

I know that this might not be the right forum to ask this, but isn't Ace actually the second and WB the third character that died in One Piece that Oda actually show...cause I don't know if it's because of the length of the manga but I can't recall anyone else that died except for that giant who was friend with little Robin???

[dinothegrinch]

What will happen to whitebeard's crew? Will they listen to what Whitebeard had said and will they join, Luffy's crew? If you see most of the other crews, they have so many members, compared to Luffy's current. It would be epic if the whitebeard pirates joined forces with luffy. If this is not the case, who will be the next captain of the whitebeard pirates? Marco perhaps? One Piece has been my all time favorite manga's and I am looking forward to how the story will continue to unravel. How will Luffy's current crew meet up? I hope it doesnt take ages for them to reunite. Those would just be fillers. I wonder what the next arc would be, will they continue on the merman underwater island? The sunny is definitely ready to dive under the sea.
[hr]
within the time-frame of the manga, i believe those were the only two that died...if we go back, people that died in one piece were Gol D. Roger, and Tom, Frankys' Shipwright master and all the people that were in Robin's hometown and Brooks' crew

[kempaichi209]

What will happen to whitebeard's crew? Will they listen to what Whitebeard had said and will they join, Luffy's crew? If you see most of the other crews, they have so many members, compared to Luffy's current. It would be epic if the whitebeard pirates joined forces with luffy. If this is not the case, who will be the next captain of the whitebeard pirates? Marco perhaps? One Piece has been my all time favorite manga's and I am looking forward to how the story will continue to unravel. How will Luffy's current crew meet up? I hope it doesnt take ages for them to reunite. Those would just be fillers. I wonder what the next arc would be, will they continue on the merman underwater island? The sunny is definitely ready to dive under the sea.
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within the time-frame of the manga, i believe those were the only two that died...if we go back, people that died in one piece were Gol D. Roger, and Tom, Frankys' Shipwright master

I dont think the WB crew will join Luffy, because luffy doesn't really need a big crew, if i remember correctly, i think he did say how many people he wanted in his crew...maybe these guys will just be under whoever was the strongest after WB in the crew

[Uriel]

We also ignore what's actually in Raftel and what is on Rio Poneglyph. Rayleagh also knew the truth and did not make anything about it. Roger knew He will die, Whitebeard was not interested but still Roger offered to tell him. That tell us that it's not about being a "D." (Because in that case why Roger would tell him?) and I doubt it's only about Haki.

Something more and related with Luffy is there that it's not shown yet.

[dark lord]

I know that this might not be the right forum to ask this, but isn't Ace actually the second and WB the third character that died in One Piece that Oda actually show...cause I don't know if it's because of the length of the manga but I can't recall anyone else that died except for that giant who was friend with little Robin???

it was a surprise for all of one piece fans yeah its the first time a major character dies in the current story time .

[Bugzee]

Shiyruu Vs. Kizaru, anyone???? :D

I really want to see King-buddha Sengoku lol against San Juan! Darkness Vs. Light.....:grin

[k-dom]

Do you think that Blackbeard knows something about the D and that is why he think he deserve to do some great things or that he is completely ignorant like Luffy

[Black Lagoon]

I know that this might not be the right forum to ask this, but isn't Ace actually the second and WB the third character that died in One Piece that Oda actually show...cause I don't know if it's because of the length of the manga but I can't recall anyone else that died except for that giant who was friend with little Robin???

I've replied in the MegaConvo (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1828405#post1828405) :)

[JC123]

Ho. LEE. SHIT!

Whitebeard was a badass before. But I'll be damned if he's not the biggest badass Granpa this side of One Piece!

A Romance Pirate that loved his family. He knew the Will of D, and never retreated from his opponents. And out of all of this, he shows why he's that strong. He took everything the Marines could throw at him and not ONCE faltered in his course.

I... I literally don't know what to say... Newgate was truly a great man who merely wanted to train the newbies in how to be one of the best.

Then, to add insult to injury, just like Gol D., he tells the entire world that One Piece exists, ensuring the next generation that piracy would be even greater!

Even if you side with the Marines, nothing could stop us from looking at awe in the man that was Whitebeard. That was a damn good fight!

[Vetinari clone]

I don't think Ds are the only ones that can be PK. We still know absolutely nothing about Ds. What we know now, however is that just because you have the D in your name, doesn't make you special... and just because you don't have a D in your name, doesn't mean you can't change the world.


Quite true, in fact the only thing we know about the D's is that they

1: Laugh a lot

2: Smile when they die

3: Tend to fall asleep at odd moments (in the middle of sentences and while being cut up with axes :facepalm)

4: Have some creepy strong willpower (carrying a child months past when it's due :blink)

5: They have some connection to the void century

6: They eat a lot

that's not a whole lot to go on, although it does make them hilarious to watch. http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/One-Piece/Mangascreener/157/12

[SuperShuter]

- fair?
- stop whining land lubbers your not dealing with saints here
- "we're pirates we don't play by the rules" - Shanks

Blackbeard is an original pirate and a great villian and is what you would expect odas possible main villian

[elitefox]

Both Roger and Shanks on the same ship and both D.s? Unlikely, just being honest. And what's up with that Teach not being a D. I really hate that people connect last names with somebodies characteristics. It's true that the 3 generations of Monkey have stong personalities, but we just don't know how many D.s are hiding themself or have lost the D. long time ago, because they forgot what it's about. Just look at Soul he was a normal nice giant, but nothing like Luffy or Roger.

What is Shanks full name?

Shanks D RedHair :p

but anyways... there must have been a bad D and a good D right?
or if I relate this to KHR...

BB is just an orphaned D and doesn't have the bloodline of true D.


Now I am just curious what is the real relationship of Garp and Roger:D
WB's name carved the history as a true monster :D

really nice to see a spanked BB


I just imagine BB vortex a Giganto Pistol... lol he would die.
BB has super low defense:eyeroll

[Shurou]

If I'm to take WB's words at face value, the man who will carry the history of the world and challenge the the world is yet to appear... and here I was thinking that Dragon was probably waging war against the WG for reasons linked with the lost period of history and would fit the bill pretty well, too. I guess it has to Luffy, being the main character and all....

[Zatono]

BB has super low defense:eyeroll

No, he has super low agility and evasive ability. His defense on the other hand is godly. He tanked WB's slash plus an earthquake to the face, and is still alive.

[BlackHair]

If I'm to take WB's words at face value, the man who will carry the history of the world and challenge the the world is yet to appear... and here I was thinking that Dragon was probably waging war against the WG for reasons linked with the lost period of history and would fit the bill pretty well, too. I guess it has to Luffy, being the main character and all....I agree with you completely. So far it was Luffy's destiny to become the PK. Now it is like WB put more burden on Luffy, practically a new destiny. Im now more than sure, that Dragon will join the SHs in the upcoming world-war against the WG. Yes world-war, since the whole freaking world will rise against the WG. Oda, to end this arc in such a fantastic and epic way, truly a genius. Already setting up the big future.


I found this article in a website and i believe one piece fans will be interested in it.

According to Mainichi news, the first printing of the volume 57 of One Piece manga were three million copies and it broke the Japanese record of "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" (2.9 million copies in 2004). The total number of the printings of the whole series are 185.6 million copies.Here we go. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/../news/details/334)

[Igniel]

I think next chapter will begin the retreat of the pirates (BB crew excepted b/c they're on the side of WB's sundering with the WG/Marines). Since Luffy's unconscious, I'd imagine Jimbei, Ivankov and/or WB's crew will take Luffy to safety.

I am quite interested to see how Garp responds now that he is no longer being held down yet still very angry/upset at Ace's death. I wonder if he'll leave with Luffy...a stretch I know.

[Primecut]

Ho. LEE. SHIT!

Whitebeard was a badass before. But I'll be damned if he's not the biggest badass Granpa this side of One Piece!

A Romance Pirate that loved his family. He knew the Will of D, and never retreated from his opponents. And out of all of this, he shows why he's that strong. He took everything the Marines could throw at him and not ONCE faltered in his course.

I... I literally don't know what to say... Newgate was truly a great man who merely wanted to train the newbies in how to be one of the best.

Then, to add insult to injury, just like Gol D., he tells the entire world that One Piece exists, ensuring the next generation that piracy would be even greater!

Even if you side with the Marines, nothing could stop us from looking at awe in the man that was Whitebeard. That was a damn good fight!

I'm very impressed with Whitebeard as well. Actually, words do not do it justice really. Some fans labeled him weak when he was having trouble with Squaddo's wound (some fans right?), others like myself stuck with WB the whole time. I knew he was strong....I just didnt know how strong. I feel vindicated in that he went out on the top. I'd say WB has had one of the best deaths if not the best death any character I've seen in manga. Probably the best in terms of going out as a legend. It was just so damn symbolic.

[Vetinari clone]

I think next chapter will begin the retreat of the pirates (BB crew excepted b/c they're on the side of WB's sundering with the WG/Marines). Since Luffy's unconscious, I'd imagine Jimbei, Ivankov and/or WB's crew will take Luffy to safety.

I am quite interested to see how Garp responds now that he is no longer being held down yet still very angry/upset at Ace's death. I wonder if he'll leave with Luffy...a stretch I know.


Am I the only one who thinks now would be a great time for a time skip? I mean this would be an amazing ending for the ark, or at least I think it would. We could get the rest of what happened through some flashbacks as Luffy recovers.

[clark12kent]

I hope Dragon arrives to get Luffy and pawn all the Admirals.. That would be epic..

[seishi]

- fair?
- stop whining land lubbers your not dealing with saints here
- "we're pirates we don't play by the rules" - Shanks

Blackbeard is an original pirate and a great villian and is what you would expect odas possible main villian

In that sense I think they could overcome Marine. Marine oposes to fredom somehow, Blackbeard dont. And I guess the sense of fredom from blackbeard would be a 'little' in the wrong way, like do 'whatever you want caring only about yourself'

But the way Oda reinvented the pirates and in the end the supposed main villain is like a pirate that a ordinary person would imagine is totally ingenius.

[senewe]

was he really the one who gave scar on shank's face? I'm really disappointed. WB is really big, but at least show us decent fighting. I regret being his fan
He is not worthy to be luffy's last opponent

[Igniel]

Am I the only one who thinks now would be a great time for a time skip? I mean this would be an amazing ending for the ark, or at least I think it would. We could get the rest of what happened through some flashbacks as Luffy recovers.

I think it'd be a perfect time to do a time-skip, if it were to happen. Otherwise I see a slow progression of a retreat, then Luffy gathering his scattered crew together.

[pirateninjahunter]

Did anybody understand what is happening in the first pannel of this page:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9

????
Is that BB's DF countering WB?
Why didnt WB kill BB? like he said he would do in Tatch's name in this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/7

Is it because WB did not want to do it in the end or because BB freed himself from WB's grip in the first page I have shown ( this http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9)

Did anybody ask themselves the same questions I did?


Thank you!

[xstationcubed]

Did anybody understand what is happening in the first pannel of this page:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9

????
Is that BB's DF countering WB?
Why didnt WB kill BB? like he said he would do in Tatch's name in this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/7

Is it because WB did not want to do it in the end or because BB freed himself from WB's grip in the first page I have shown ( this http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9)

Did anybody ask themselves the same questions I did?


Thank you!

hmm, didn't notice that black circle there before, good call. yeah, it looks like BB was trying to nullify him, but it just didn't work that well. Guess he isn't as badass as he thought he was.

As for why he didn't kill BB, he clearly intended to. But getting getting loaded full of bullets after getting stabbed numerous times through the chest and having half his head melted off was too much for him. He ran out of strength and couldn't finish the job. Good to know that in the end BB's ill gotten gains didn't do crap for him though, he had to have his entire crew shoot every bullet they had into his already half dead body to finish him off.

[ashketchum64]

Am I the only one who thinks now would be a great time for a time skip? I mean this would be an amazing ending for the ark, or at least I think it would. We could get the rest of what happened through some flashbacks as Luffy recovers.

I think That there should be a time skip in the near future. Just like how Naruto went, the last page of this chapter should have read "One Piece - Part 1 End" In my opinion. That would have added so much more to the intensity of what just happened in my opinion.

[Goty]

To people underestimating Blackbeard: his true weakness, as Whitebeard pointed, is not exactly his defense, but the overconfidence in his nullifying abilities. Teach learnt a huge lesson here, i'm pretty sure he'll work on that.

[ashketchum64]

To people underestimating Blackbeard: his true weakness, as Whitebeard pointed, is not exactly his defense, but the overconfidence in his nullifying abilities. Teach learnt a huge lesson here, i'm pretty sure he'll work on that.

Only more reason for a time skip. I don't really see what more can happen after this besides the retreat. Also I don't really see another way the straw hats could end back up together. Small flashbacks after a skip would be the quickest way. I would rather not read how they all managed to meet back up. But then again, Oda is a genius so whatever he does I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

[k-dom]

I remember a thread about the list of the most powerful characters. Whitebeard was put generally low. I think the last chapters have shown that we were quite wrong :-)

[ascalon]

Wow, such an epic EPIC chapter. And such an EPIC way to end an arc.

[Mr. Crocodile]

Did anybody understand what is happening in the first pannel of this page:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9

????
Is that BB's DF countering WB?
Why didnt WB kill BB? like he said he would do in Tatch's name in this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/7

Is it because WB did not want to do it in the end or because BB freed himself from WB's grip in the first page I have shown ( this http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9)

Did anybody ask themselves the same questions I did?


Thank you!

That black circle is generated by WB DF powers..see? http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/556/04-05/ or http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/06-07/ I think WB did intend to kill him but BB has a tremendous amount of stamina and resistance that he simply survived the attack..after all akainu did too..and i can't imagine having him a stronger defense that BB.

[hardedge]

Edward "New-Gate"

Oda planned it all from the beginning again XD

WB was destined to open the new era wit hhis last words

Roger was the door, WB is the key ...

[ashketchum64]

Edward "New-Gate"

Oda planned it all from the beginning again XD

WB was destined to open the new era wit hhis last words

Roger was the door, WB is the key ...

You do realize "New-Gate" is the English translation right? It's more probable that it means something else entirely in japanese.

[ascalon]

That black circle is generated by WB DF powers..see? http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/556/04-05/ or http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/06-07/ I think WB did intend to kill him but BB has a tremendous amount of stamina and resistance that he simply survived the attack..after all akainu did too..and i can't imagine having him a stronger defense that BB.

BB has NO defense, so yes, WB has a stronger defense than him by miles.

[kalabazin]

That black circle is generated by WB DF powers..see? http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/556/04-05/ or http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/06-07/ I think WB did intend to kill him but BB has a tremendous amount of stamina and resistance that he simply survived the attack..after all akainu did too..and i can't imagine having him a stronger defense that BB.

That black circle is generated when he uses haki (he used it on Akainu too).

[caleshious]

Page 13.

WB: "You're not one of them ..."

He says this right after Roger asks him if he wants to know what D. means.

What i take from this is that, because WB knows knew what D. ment, he was able to tell that BB definitly isn't one of them.

From this, i'm gonna just put it out there that BB most probably:

1) Fabricated his name with a D. in it, and his name is something else entirely
2) further more, people thinking that Caterina's name was actually Caterina D. Evon, well, it may actually be the reverse, BB's real name may infact be XXXXXXXXX Devon.

Just finally, very good chapter, RIP WB.

[godaijutsu-no-hito]

You do realize "New-Gate" is the English translation right? It's more probable that it means something else entirely in japanese.

Well...it could just be the name of the prison where Captain Kidd was incarcerated.

[tusharthegamer]

Epic chapter :) .... WB rocksss..

[elitefox]

Did anybody understand what is happening in the first pannel of this page:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9

????
Is that BB's DF countering WB?
Why didnt WB kill BB? like he said he would do in Tatch's name in this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/7

Is it because WB did not want to do it in the end or because BB freed himself from WB's grip in the first page I have shown ( this http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/9)

Did anybody ask themselves the same questions I did?


Thank you!

well nulliffying a df needs that black vortex or touching it... but atm BB is not using it thus BB from being scared/surprise is not using his df powers.


WB had quake his head same as the giant so I think Bb can take some hits too I guess.

[ocajavati]

Um, I think it's more than proven that WB is the most resilient character shown with this chapter.

So a legend ends, and another begins... Can't wait to see what awaits us in the next chapter.

[pein1991]

The end of the chapter showed White beard with a basically scarred back, yet he had been stabbed earlier in the back didn't he?

[elitefox]

If WB is this powerful... I wonder what will happen(alternatively) if squardo didn't buy the prank of Akainu?

uninjured WB = whole MHQ
if marco hadn't have worries, he could be more useful.
if joz stayed focus, he could have at least hold off aokiji

if luffy didn't come..
WB pirates most likely lost sooner.

the only factor that determined their defeat is human error lol
and nobody is immune to it.

[goldb]

WB's never been attacked from the back, the whole point of the last narration is to show his pride and courage; that he never runs from a fight. Apart from the 2 sword piercing through, his back was spotless.

[caleshious]

Page 13.

WB: "You're not one of them ..."

He says this right after Roger asks him if he wants to know what D. means.

What i take from this is that, because WB knows knew what D. ment, he was able to tell that BB definitly isn't one of them.

From this, i'm gonna just put it out there that BB most probably:

1) Fabricated his name with a D. in it, and his name is something else entirely
2) further more, people thinking that Caterina's name was actually Caterina D. Evon, well, it may actually be the reverse, BB's real name may infact be XXXXXXXXX Devon.

Just finally, very good chapter, RIP WB.

Just want to add that, discussions based on a new person obtaining the fire fruit, can be expanded to include who is gonna get the earthquake fruit :P

[Bugzee]

Um, I think it's more than proven that WB is the most resilient character shown with this chapter.

So a legend ends, and another begins... Can't wait to see what awaits us in the next chapter.

Most defintely! There's no pirate like WB. ;)

I want to see Garp's reaction to this and what the other warlords make of BB now. :amuse

[elitefox]

I see WB and Roger becoming drinking buddies..

Did they really fight seriously from the start?
or another gossip that is not true?
about them being equal...

[ZZPallando]

I never realized before, but the first name of BB is Teach !?
It's lame !

Anyway, if people carry on the "will of D" after the death of one of them, do you think someone carries that of Jaguar D. Saul ?

And who carries the D of Portgas D. Rouge ?
And who carried the D of Ace before his birth... ? Saul ? Those two were gentle souls and they both were killed by an admiral (even if Kuzan was still a VA)... Saul was frozen, and Ace despite having the flame fruit (protecting him from ice) was burned.


On another note, some people wondered why Roger didn't declare war himself... And well, it seems it was not in his character to interfere that way. For example, he did not tell Ganfall where was the Golden Bell on sky island... He went to W7 but - apparently - did not go and destroy Enies Lobby...
Roger was less involved than Luffy... until his "death". (But, as he said to Rayleigh, he was not going to die...)

[tiggerme123]

Shounen basically. I can't recall any manga where a guy dies and is still standing (though mecha still kinda apply) but quite a few mangas where a guy is unconscious, just standing there like a statue (Ippo, Ranma) and after seeing WB now I can honestly say it gives off the similar vibe.

although i see ur point, that its common for ppl to be unconcious and standing up, or even fighting, and i also got a bit of the same vibe, i appreciated OP more.

it was soley cuz WB is DEAD. if they're unconscious, sure, they're out of it, but something in the back of their brain is keeping them up. since WB is dead, he doesnt have anything trying to push buttons in the back of his head (he hardy has a head to begin with ;) ) and so its more like, WOW. BADASS.

so yeah, i see your point and i know what you mean, but still

[Kaizoku-O Luffy]

sleepyfans translation gives a more proper translation as to why the world government fear the people with the name D., it says the flames that has been passed down through generation, with all those weights one his back the man will come to challenge the world it self. And finding the One piece is the start of the whole mess yet to come. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/576/13/. That basically throw out the possibility of BB being the final opponent as a lot of us expected. It can still happen. But its very doubtful after this chapter.

[Host Samurai]

Perfect chapter. WB's death was well written, definetly one of the best arc in my list.

But there's something that caught my interest while reading the chapter.


Sengoku... You people of the World Government... / ...are living in fear... of that great battle that will someday engulf the entire world!!! // Though it has nothing to do with me... when somebody finally finds that treasure...... // ...the world will be turned upside down.

Does that mean that the battle for One Piece might lead into a World War? With Dragon being a revolutionary and the most wanted man in the world and Luffy being his son. Who is already considered a 'threat' for the World Government.. that idea it's not that far fetched.

[tiggerme123]

i have a feeling that by the end of this, the world government will no longr exist. something else wil in its place, just not the world government exactly. but what? i have no idea.

[Vetinari clone]

I see WB and Roger becoming drinking buddies..

Did they really fight seriously from the start?
or another gossip that is not true?
about them being equal...


Just guessing but it was probably something like shanks and WB sitting down to have a drink. A little more friendly but still the same basic concept.

[vpyr]

What exactly is the "will of D." ?
Is it the bloodline or just some "will" given through generations?

I think its maybe both... It could be that the "King-Haki" is the will, which is given through the blood. But who was the first one with this will?
I dont know if i remember right but somewhere in the manga it was stated that there was a kingdom before the or in the void-century. Maybe the Worldgoverment overtook this Kingdom and erased all of the Kings. Maybe a son or a daughter survieved this. Maybe the King did have the "King-Haki".

Perhabs Luffy will fight Blackbeard for One Piece, which is telling what exactly happen and then he will fight together with his father against the wg.

Long time prediction
-Luffy will figth BB @ Raftel for One Piece
-Luffy will be a Son of the loooooong killed King of this Kingdom
-Luffy and Dragon will fight alongside some Crews (Shanks/Buggy/Law/Kid) against Wg
-Luffy will be the freeer of the world and will die with this and start a new Age

[chess4]

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hulk-hogan-listen.jpg

the real life Whitebeard.


oda has based a lot of his characters on real life people, so maybe he based WB on the greastest wrestler of all time, hilk hogan.

looks just like him

[caleshious]

What exactly is the "will of D."

WB knew what it is, but what we do know now is that whateva it is, BB doesn't have it, which kinda makes me happy ;)

[Zeltrax]

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hulk-hogan-listen.jpg

the real life Whitebeard.


oda has based a lot of his characters on real life people, so maybe he based WB on the greastest wrestler of all time, hilk hogan.

looks just like him

Nah, he's based on someone Oda knew, a old guy with a sickness or something, he's already dead though.
Oh yeah, think they met at a bar or somethin'

[Gcat88]

I dont get that page. does he say that there is the will of roger and the will of ace??? mangastream actually translated it one way and onemanga another!!

[Vetinari clone]

I dunno about anyone else but when it comes to the will of D stuff I just sit back and watch. We have so little to go on, also since I don't speak Japanese the translations can be a bit confusing like Gcat88 said, and this makes me just think, "well Oda will tell us eventually". Also I take comfort in the fact that, while Oda is great at surprising us, he doesn't make things too complicated. It's usually quite strait-forward so the fact that I'm not actually paying close attention to the 'will of D' stuff won't make it incomprehensible to me later on (although since I reread OP quite often it wouldn't matter anyway). I love speculating on most things but I find it better, for my sanity, to just ignore the mysterious stuff until it actually makes since.


On another note, in this page is Jinbei running away or standing still I can't tell http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/12

[GomuGomuNoBigBoner]

Taking into consideration that Jinbei is having his right arm on par with his chest, I'd presume he's in motion

[dark lord]

On another note, in this page is Jinbei running away or standing still I can't tell http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/12

he ie running but seems in the same time trying to obsereve WB while hearing what he said .

[Touchdown]

Sorry for a post which doesn't have a line it follows, just tried to post it while reading what other people poste. :)

The black circle around his hand is created when he uses his Quake-power when hitting somebody, I'd assume. He used it at the start of the war on the giant who tried to sneak-attack him. If it was haki, don't you think it would show up on other characters also when they use it, not only Whitebeard?

BBs full name is Marshall D. Teach. So, his first name isn't Teach, it's hit last name. :)

ALSO, CAN WE *PLEASE* STOP TALKING ABOUT ACE COMING BACK TO LIFE. HE DIED. HE SMILED WHILE DYING. THE END.

Loved the chapter. Everything in it.

I kind of liked Blackbeard before, but when he started begging for his life from Whitebeard, that's when he lost the flavor, at least to me.

Also loved the fact that when Whitebeard announced that Onepiece exists, Sengoku went all "FFFUUU-".

Epic chapter, no idea what will happen next though.

P.S. ACE IS DEAD. LET IT BE. MOVE ON. THANK YOU.

[Bertosch]

BBs full name is Marshall D. Teach. So, his first name isn't Teach, it's hit last name. :)



isn't Marshall his family name and teach his first name?? like in monkey d. dragon and monkey d. luffy... so your smile is quiet annoying to me.

[dark lord]

I dont get that page. does he say that there is the will of roger and the will of ace??? mangastream actually translated it one way and onemanga another!!

yes you know how ace is roger's son he must have inherited the will from his father then passed it down to luffy his brother .

[Gcat88]

So in other words Ace has the will of D, just like his father did, but Teach doesnt deserve it???

[Saint Markus]

this is really a good setting for the next story arc, i see One Piece going for another 5 years at least. see why, Oda has a hard time reaching a serious conclusion to this manga, it's so damn epic.

[yellowblue]

What will happen now? Will BB kill the rest of the WB pirates? I hope Luffy and co can still run. Funny I instantly remember US on WW2.

[Gcat88]

5 YEARS????? i dont doubt it might go for almost another 10. Oda first said he wanted to do another story after OP then he said he wants to do short stories, pretty soon hell say screw it ill just do this till i cant anymore.

[ZZPallando]

BBs full name is Marshall D. Teach. So, his first name isn't Teach, it's hit last name. :)

ALSO, CAN WE *PLEASE* STOP TALKING ABOUT ACE COMING BACK TO LIFE. HE DIED. HE SMILED WHILE DYING. THE END.

Actually in Japanese, the first name is in the end. Nico Robin's first name is "Robin". Garp, Dragon and Luffy are first names too. So for BB it's Teach, but it sounds weird...

And yes Ace is dead, but his will is not ! Haven't you read the chapter ? WB said that someone will appear to carry on his flame.

As I understand this, people with a D in their name somehow have an eternal will and their traits reappear generation after generation...
Considering the number of comparisons between Roger and Luffy, it makes sense: like his father, Ace could have someone to walk in his footsteps. Luffy's kid ? ^^

[Vizard5]

This chapter makes me wonder if one piece is something that must be earned to be used "the man Roger was waiting for is not you" so maybe Roger could not use one piece. "a man will come forth and challange the world" dragon think he is that man that will change the world. that is why he is a revolutionary, so that he will earn the rigth for one piece. but we all know it is luffy that will be that person ^^

[Touchdown]

Actually in Japanese, the first name is in the end. Nico Robin's first name is "Robin". Garp, Dragon and Luffy are first names too. So for BB it's Teach, but it sounds weird...

Yeah, noticed that now too. ^^

I stand corrected.


And yes Ace is dead, but his will is not ! Haven't you read the chapter ? WB said that someone will appear to carry on his flame.

Not talking about the chapter, but rather the few posters around these parts still hoping for something to bring him alive. Which is ridiculous considering it has been a month(?) since we pretty much knew he died.

[Bertosch]

Funny I instantly remember US on WW2.

Why and what is so funny about that?

[Rosebullet Teacher]

Man, i wish more old people could die so i can see more Roger flashbacks hes so cooool
FuS

[THM Nindo]

5 YEARS????? i dont doubt it might go for almost another 10. Oda first said he wanted to do another story after OP then he said he wants to do short stories, pretty soon hell say screw it ill just do this till i cant anymore.

Most likely it's going to go for another 10 years.
Oda said that the fishman island was at about halfway through the story.

[ZZPallando]

Not talking about the chapter, but rather the few posters around these parts still hoping for something to bring him alive. Which is ridiculous considering it has been a month(?) since we pretty much knew he died.

Yeah. And even in this chapter, WB confirmed that Ace really is dead.


Anyway, with Ryuuma / Zoro (hunch), Roger / Luffy and what said WB, reincarnation seems to happen in One Piece...

[Bugzee]

I really do think Devon & BB are related. There's barely any difference between their noses; it can't be just a coincidence imo. :XD Marshall D. Teach or Marshall Devon? :blink

Ugly-arse noses lol.

Rip Thatch, Ace & WB. :(

[hy4k]

i think blackbeard has the will of D along with the kings disposition. Whitebeard just didn't think he had what it took to find one piece

Luffy on the other hand probably does. Personality wise he is exactly like gol.d.roger. his brother was rogers son. his father is the leader of the only force that ever opposed the world government. he has links to the revolutionaries, fishmen and two of the most powerful porate crews in the new world.

Luffy isn't even 18 yet and he has a fantastic crew that work very well together while he himself is also very strong.

[senewe]

from this chapter onward, I'll not be predicting about the long term event or secret such as what is One Piece, or what exactly is will of D, blank century. just sit, read, and amazed what the next magic Oda will show us. I feel like I start a sequel of OP. and I LOVE IT

[Cooky42]

First of all RIP WB what a legend til the very end
Secondly

I really do think Devon & BB are related. There's barely any difference between their noses; it can't be just a coincidence imo. :XD Marshall D. Teach or Marshall Devon? :blink

Ugly-arse noses lol.

Rip Thatch, Ace & WB. :(

This wasnt my first thought i thought maybe Yassops mother or maybe Ussops grand mother (on his mothers side) as these two family lines seem to have the market conrnered on huge noses in OP :D

[Gcat88]

its pointless to make theories, whatever you make Oda's will be better!!!

[redred]

up until this chapter i never could have imagined just how ugly busco shot or basco shot or w/e his name is called is. i mean goddamn he added another notch to the ugly level in BB's crew.

[panasit]

Blackbeard was not in his best light in this chapter. But I have to admire the fact that he gain the title of Shichibukai just to break out selected number of people out of Impel Down. Now that's self control at the most psychotic level.

Luffy barged in to fulfill his dream as quick and as fearless as he possibly can. Teach is also as fearless but also a smart and calculating schemer.

Yeah he's a dick. But god he is scary.

You know, there are many genius villains in other manga and cartoons. But I think I found the embodiment of the word evil genius. They don't need to be a scientist that create monster. Blackbeard is exactly just what a smart evil person would do.

[Akagami.Shanks]

Blackbeard was not in his best light in this chapter. But I have to admire the fact that he gain the title of Shichibukai just to break out selected number of people out of Impel Down. Now that's self control at the most psychotic level.

Luffy barged in to fulfill his dream as quick and as fearless as he possibly can. Teach is also as fearless but also a smart and calculating schemer.

Yeah he's a dick. But god he is scary.

You know, there are many genius villains in other manga and cartoons. But I think I found the embodiment of the word evil genius. They don't need to be a scientist that create monster. Blackbeard is exactly just what a smart evil person would do.

You're right, BB is the man with the plan. I just think that he has the big plan drown but does not have the small details worked out.He also believes in Faith and is clearly very lucky. Escaping from certain Death twice now.

[Warlord90]

I don't know if anyone has noticed. but Crocodile, Jinbei, Teach and possibly Hancock have willingly or forced to abandon their positions. This means that we will have 4 new Warlords of the Sea in the future!!!

[Gcat88]

or, what i thought would happen now i see it probably wont, they will disband.

[kkck]

Ok, this was a nice chapter, probably best in the arc. To bad WB died though, to think just ace death already made this war have no possible winners. I mean, marineford has literally been split in roughly 4 pieces thanks to WB, countless marines have fallen, akainu apparently fell into the crack full of water WB made, ace died, WB died, many other notorious pirates have also fallen. Neither side can claim victory like this, they all have had so overwhelming defeats at this point that truly nothing has been gained.

As for this pizalo guy, my guess is that he is a drill man. The ability to drill holes in things and people must make him quite deadly as evidenced by the fact that he was thrown to level 6. For some reason I have high expectations of this guy.

Wonder what abilities the other WB pirates have at this point. Catalina was called a hunter and seemed to have a spear so my guess is that she does not have a fruit. Bosco seems to be just a drunk and extremely weird so my guess is that he is an ability user. The giant guy seems to be just an oversized giant. I don't think he has an ability per say. He probably should not get involved in the fight though, he is nothing but a huge target for powerful marines and battleships. I wonder whether the original members of the BB pirates have what it takes to match up against the new ones. I have never really have expectations from most of them but they should kinda at least compare to the new guys. Maybe they will surprise us. On the other hand, among them only the mask guy and lafitte seemed to be the type to use close combat so perhaps they can indeed match up. As for the sharpshotter guy, he already has incredible aim and reach and also seems to have decent speed so perhaps he can match up to the new guys in that aspect.

One of the things which surprised me the most in this chapter is BB resistance to pain. His defense is low but his ability to take punishment is top notch to the very least. Seriously, he took a deadly hit from WB spear and to top it all he got the full force of one of WB's quakes to the head and survived. The guy is a monster, his ability to take overwhelming damage dwarfs that of luffy and he is not even made of rubber; he even admitted he took more damage than usual due to his special logia.

Wonder what BB will plan to do from now on. His crew is not made out of nobodies, they are top notch pirates with insane power even among powerful pirates. With this BB easily has one of the strongest crews in the world and could hope to achieve any title and treasure he wants. OP is there for him to take and he could more than easily become an emperor of the NW. If he is meant to be an enemy of luffy then luffy and his crew need to increase their power at least 100 times to have an actual chance of winning. In any case, as they are now even between all of them defeating a single member of the BB pirates might be beyond their reach.

One thing I find weird is that BB aimed specifically for all those guys and that they would join him. I would think that not only BB planned to get them but also they were expecting BB. Perhaps WB was the one who defeated them and BB took the chance to recruit them.

I found it very interesting that WB and roger were so close friends. I guess through their battles they became friends kinda like gard and roger. Not sure how revealing the whole D thing was. Clearly it is something ancient and it is clear all the D's have at least an overall common ancestry.

I hope the arc ends within the next 3 chapters though. Any more would be overdoing it IMHO. The WB pirates have no reason at all to stay and given all the damage WB caused escaping should not be all that difficult. Also hope we get to see what the other strawhats are doing within the next few chapters. I somehow don't think oda will waste an arc in retrieving them one by one. It has been somewhere between 7 and 14 days since the SA incident(a number of days flying around, a number of days in the woman island, 3 days going to ID and about a day healing there) so it is more than likely all of them already found the means to at least be on their way back.

[chess4]

if i had to say a side won, it would be the WG. ace is dead, WB is dead, oars jr is probably dead, jozu is frozen and has probably lost an arm. on both sides a lot of man pwer was lost, so that pretty much evens out. red dog is pretty badly hurt, and a couple of vice admirals probably are seriously injured(the one luffy punched, and the one WB quaked), but outside of that the WG top brass is pretty much still kicking.

the pirates gained nothing from this fight. it was a complete defeat any way you look at it.

only thing luffy gained from this fight is 10 years shaved off his life and a bigger bounty on his head, which is terrible.

even though this arc was good, i am so dissapointed in this arc. dadan, rayliegh, nor dragon showed up. i cant believe dadan the man you raised ace didnt even lift a finger. also im sure that kuma told rayleigh that about ace, and he didnt so anything either.

[WickedNeko]

I wonder whether the original members of the BB pirates have what it takes to match up against the new ones. I have never really have expectations from most of them but they should kinda at least compare to the new guys. Maybe they will surprise us. On the other hand, among them only the mask guy and lafitte seemed to be the type to use close combat so perhaps they can indeed match up. As for the sharpshotter guy, he already has incredible aim and reach and also seems to have decent speed so perhaps he can match up to the new guys in that aspect.


Probably not, unless they powered up between Ace vs BB battle. Remember, they all attacked Ace, and BB called them off because "they weren't strong enough yet to handle Ace". Considering that new members were Level 6 inmates, they probably are at the very least comparable to Ace. At the moment, I think the entire original BB crew (besides BB, of course) is weaker than a single new member.

[happy GIN smily]

of course this arc must be disapointing for many readers so far, since we favour the pirates. WB and Ace were some of the good guys. and both were killed by the two greatest assholes in the whole story.
like all cheap hollywood-movies this will be dealed with later to satisfy the audience. but i think that we will have to wait a long time untill Akainu und BB fall.

and please dont tell me now that Akainu allready fell. he is allive for sure and will erupt sooner or later

[DoItDoItDoIt]

I don't know if anyone has noticed. but Crocodile, Jinbei, Teach and possibly Hancock have willingly or forced to abandon their positions. This means that we will have 4 new Warlords of the Sea in the future!!!

actually they need 3 new shichibukai...BB was crocodiles replacement

[Bugzee]

I still think Shiryuu & Laffite are the most sadistic b*t*rds in BB's crew. It's just something about their appearances...:darn

[kkck]

Probably not, unless they powered up between Ace vs BB battle. Remember, they all attacked Ace, and BB called them off because "they weren't strong enough yet to handle Ace". Considering that new members were Level 6 inmates, they probably are at the very least comparable to Ace. At the moment, I think the entire original BB crew (besides BB, of course) is weaker than a single new member.

Comparing them against ace is probably not fair though. Problem they had with ace was the physical impossibility of hitting him. Even people with haki have shown a tad of difficulty in hurting a logia user by now -even though it has been basically proven haki can indeed hurt and even kill logia users-. I would not be surprised if these guys turned out to be more skilled than ace but overall also not be capable of hitting him. Unless they have an ability which can fundamentally alter a logia beyond his natural limits or haki they won't be doing anything to any logia regardless of how strong they are.

[Ruhina]

of course this arc must be disapointing for many readers so far, since we favour the pirates. WB and Ace were some of the good guys. and both were killed by the two greatest assholes in the whole story.
like all cheap hollywood-movies this will be dealed with later to satisfy the audience. but i think that we will have to wait a long time untill Akainu und BB fall.

and please dont tell me now that Akainu allready fell. he is allive for sure and will erupt sooner or later

Except this is One Piece where the bad guys "deserves worse than death", which is when they are knocked away and re-appear in a mini-arc... What Akainu and BB DESERVES is a slow and painful death, however knowing Oda, we won't get that... :/

[Auditore]

maybe marco is going to join luffy crew because of

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/558/16-17/

[Touchdown]

Blackbeard reminds of Joker from Batman, kind of. Schemer and such.

[BlackHair]

No-one stronger than Luffy will join the SHs. That is pretty much clear to me.

[Auditore]

No-one stronger than Luffy will join the SHs. That is pretty much clear to me.
but he won't be stronger than ruffy with the story continuing

[Schabrak]

but he won't be stronger than ruffy with the story continuing
Beside this being the wrong thread[New Nakama/Mugiwara] (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6481&page=112), how do imagine the second in command not leaving, but betraying his crew, by going with somebody else. He has to take care of his own brothers, as the "oldest son", not excluding from haboring Luffy till he regains strength or consciousness. Thats part is obvious.^^

[hy4k]

this is the dark middle point of one piece. this is the empire strikes back

we need the crew being utterly defeated. we need the hero losing what was most important to him. we need evil to triumph over good

best and most epic arc of one piece ever

[dark lord]

but he won't be stronger than ruffy with the story continuing

actually right now i dont think anyone will join maybe in the new world it would pretty interesting its not a must that the crew should be completed at this point .with so much going on overloading wont be necessary .
i think the focus should be on the strawhats getting back together now oda must give the other members enough panel time .


this is the dark middle point of one piece. this is the empire strikes back

we need the crew being utterly defeated. we need the hero losing what was most important to him. we need evil to triumph over good

best and most epic arc of one piece ever

thanks man . this what makes a story better not always pulling a win

[mmmiitr]

i believe BB new crew would complement his ability in some way,it would be stupid of BB to rely on just his ability as he has weak defense (WB proved it clearly how EASY it is to kill BB for a man of WB's caliber).He is a kind of person who knows it well and must have recruited people not only to make his crew strong but make himself invincible (after all he is not the kind who will fight man-o-man)
In LUFFY's case he is young and still getting strong but BB is an old timer he will not be getting any stronger than what he already is....the only way he can become stronger is to recruit other people to help him fight stronger opponent like FOUR KING ,GARP etc

[dsr]

I think that BB has another surprise that will follow.
My bet is on the ancestral weapon, not now, but soon, that stuf has not been mentioned since Water 7, some days ago in the manga...but almost 1 year and half ago.
Then there are other pirates that are passing through the gates.
The reaction of the other 3 Emperors; I wonder what Shanks will do now, but maybe he has witnessed what happened and will search for Luffy.
Then I still wait to know what the giants in the fog are, since they're bigger than San Juan Wolf.

Last, I predict in 3 chapters, an epilogue where we'll see how the known people (villagers of Luffy, Dragon, Shanks, Supernovas, SH nakamas) will receive all the news.

By the way, for a revolutionary that wants to attack the WG, this should be the best moment for an attack, maybe even to Marijoa.

[jinoku]

I think that BB has another surprise that will follow.
My bet is on the ancestral weapon, not now, but soon, that stuf has not been mentioned since Water 7, some days ago in the manga...but almost 1 year and half ago.
Then there are other pirates that are passing through the gates.
The reaction of the other 3 Emperors; I wonder what Shanks will do now, but maybe he has witnessed what happened and will search for Luffy.
Then I still wait to know what the giants in the fog are, since they're bigger than San Juan Wolf.

Last, I predict in 3 chapters, an epilogue where we'll see how the known people (villagers of Luffy, Dragon, Shanks, Supernovas, SH nakamas) will receive all the news.

By the way, for a revolutionary that wants to attack the WG, this should be the best moment for an attack, maybe even to Marijoa.

Weren't the Giants in the Fog just the shadows of the people on sky island?

[Lee-tyme7]

this is the dark middle point of one piece. this is the empire strikes back

we need the crew being utterly defeated. we need the hero losing what was most important to him. we need evil to triumph over good

best and most epic arc of one piece ever

I agree, after luffy wakes up from all this I have the feeling he is going to have a great depression. Maybe he will give up on his dream and the "one piece" all together because of his failure to rescue Ace. It's going to take Boa Hancock and her two gorgeous oranges to pull Luffy back from this one because Luffy loves oranges and Nami won't let him touch hers. LOL! :p

[Banedor]

Who will take over WB pirates now? A group that large won't just disband.

[zerocooldx]

Who will take over WB pirates now? A group that large won't just disband.

Marco will most likely take over now. Or Vista, Jozu, and Marco will lead by committee. But the WB pirates may very well loose their position as a Yonkou crew. While BB and his crew may take over that position, if for no other reason then the fact that they "killed" WB himself.

[Shurou]

I can see the other Yonkous trying to lure some members away.

[Lee-tyme7]

Who will take over WB pirates now? A group that large won't just disband.

hmm...I think the only reason they stay together was cus of WB but now that he's dead they will disband. It was WB command for the crew to disband before he died and WB original plan was to make Ace the pirate king but he also died.
Plus I think this is good you have to disband the most powerful crew in OP for the story to progress. If they are gone this make an opening to get to Raftel easier.
[hr]

I can see the other Yonkous trying to lure some members away.

EXactly my thought too. I can already see it...Shank will ask Marco to join his crew once again. LOL!!
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v45/c434/7.html

[*Corrine*]

I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but where is Garp? I thought Sengoku was holding him down, but if you see Sengoku in this chapter, Garp is no longer there O.o

[dsr]

I think Garp will retire from the Marine

[ZenoArmani]

So, I'm hoping for some Garp action next chapter, along with Shichibukai reactions, and the admirals kicking the BB pirates asses. Seriously, they can't just escape unharmed...that'd be ridiculous. I don't care what WB did to BB, everyone else has to do something.Yeah, we haven't really seen Garp show off yet. I'd also like to see him take out his rage on Blackbeard. He may not be able to attack Akainu, but Blackbeard is a lawless pirate and was at least as responsible for Ace's death.
[hr]

Am I the only one who thinks now would be a great time for a time skip? I mean this would be an amazing ending for the ark, or at least I think it would. We could get the rest of what happened through some flashbacks as Luffy recovers.I'd like to see some kind of confrontation between the marines (Garp, Sengoku, Aokiji, Kizaru, and the remaining vice-admirals) and the Blackbeard crew first. (Marco and Vista likely have to swallow their pride and get their crew to safety as Whitebeard ordered.)

[kkck]

What I am curious about is what will happen to the WB pirates now. Years before the war the WB pirates were kept in check by the monumentally powerful force which was WB. Right under him were the commanders, each of whom seems more than capable of keeping shichibukai at bay and standing up to admirals. And then there were regular members among which you could find rookie level people probably somewhere between luffy and low level marines in terms of power and then finally the cannon fodder. Basically this crew was kept in check by a well structured hierarchy of progressively powerful people with WB at the top. Now, as WB got older he lost a good deal of strength but he retained a name which inspired fear in anyone. In his late years he still seemed stronger than most of his commanders but the difference most likely was not nearly as overwhelming as it once was, considering everything it would seem as if they were even comparable to some extent given how the commander, WB admiral fights went. Given the decrease in power WB went through it would seem it was respect and his name which kept such a huge crew together.

Now that WB is gone, I don't really see just someone else taking WBs place. Ace would have been a mediocre choice overall considering he did lacked strength in comparison to the rest of the commanders (marco, vista and jozu at least gave the impression of being a level above the kid and who knows about the other veteran members).

Now, this not only affects the WB pirates but the whole world. The WB controlled a number of islands and were a force which balanced the power between the yonkou (all of which are each others enemies) and the WG. Now that WB is gone plus being a couple of commanders short, there is no way the WB pirates are going to be able to keep all which they control in check, other yonkou are bound to make a move very soon and take more territories. And not only yonkou, many pirate crews are bound to be comparable in power to the yonkou but were simply waiting for a chance to seize power. Also, kaido and shanks went to war recently, which is bound to considerably add to the imbalance caused by the WB-WG war. The BB pirates also seem powerful enough to actually gather power and allies rather quickly. They might find it useful to seize power that way.

[Hiro Hayase]

That clears up the whole "Whitebeard's the loser of the past Era" thing, he didn't lose because he got all that he wanted, he didn't want to be the Pirate King in the first place. WB just wanted a "family." Also, WhiteBeard was equal in strength to Gol D. Roger. The marines called him "Gold Roger" instead of his real name "Gol D. Roger" I'm really glad Oda cleared that up for the audiences about the how the Marines covered up his name. I guess the marines really didn't want people to find out about the Will of D. Makes me wonder what really lays hidden at One Piece. Maybe an all-powerful ancient weapon? The lost century’s history? Chests of Gold? ;)

So... i think we can start to make some speculations/predictions about the next arc. :)

-Will Luffy stay with the White beard pirates for a whole arc till he recovers?
-Will the WB pirates and their allies decide to partner up with Luffy and help him become the Pirate king now? Luffy will be the new yonkou by replacing WB since he inherited Ace's and Roger's will. WB told the Marco and Co. that he won't forgive him if he lets Luffy die.
-Will the WB pirates and co. teach Luffy how how to use his "King's Disposition Haki"
-Will Luffy go to archipelago first to meet up with crew somehow?
-Will there be a time-skip?
-Will Oda portray a fight between BB and the Government?
-Will Oda show scenes of what the other Strawhats are up to in the next chapter.
-Will we get reactions from the One Piece world about the recent events at the Marine HQ in the next chapters....This happened right after the Enies Lobby incident too
-BlackBeard is not really an actual D. holder, since he was scared when he knew WB was really about to kill him. A common trait among Will of D. holders is that they do not fear death and fall asleep in the most random of times
-Luffy will definitely get new nakama or additions to his crew

so many things are possible now. :o

R.I.P. WB and Ace

I award WB for the most epic death in Manga history. *applause*
After this scene, i expect Luffy to "mature" more after this chapter.
When WB says "One Piece exists" made me in complete awe and i felt like i was reading One Piece all over again. Best Chapter. Plus Luffy still hasn't even crossed into the New Word yet!!! :o

P.S. When everything was happening why is Luffy still unconscious at the time of WB's epic last moments??? :blink Am I the only person who finds this weird?????? :o If I was Luffy and I was unconscious through an epic moment in history like that, then I would be seriously ticked off when I wake up. :darn

[ZenoArmani]

I don't know if anyone has noticed. but Crocodile, Jinbei, Teach and possibly Hancock have willingly or forced to abandon their positions. This means that we will have 4 new Warlords of the Sea in the future!!!3 you mean, in case the WG keep the numbers consistent, but I wonder if Eustace Kidd will be one of the new ones? Sengoku did say that he wanted to recruit Ace as one back when he was a famed rookie after all.
[hr]

Blackbeard reminds of Joker from Batman, kind of. Schemer and such.Nah, the Joker is probably more like Doflamingo. Blackbeard is something I don't think I've quite seen before.

Does anyone have a suggestion of a villain you've seen that was very similar to Blackbeard?

[kkck]

P.S. When everything was happening why is Luffy still unconscious at the time of WB's epic last moments??? I am the only person who finds this weird?????? If i was Luffy and i was unconscious through an epic moment in history, then i would be seriously ticked off when i wake up.
Personally I find the idea of luffy waking up anytime before the next week outright absurd lol. Even after fighting lucci he slept for 3 days and the damage he took fighting him is insignificant and measly in comparison to all the damage he has taken since he entered ID. Luffy will definitely be pissed of about WB dying along with ace but overall there was no way to go around the physical and mental enhaustion he has gone through. I would not be surprised if he sleeps for over a month lol.
[hr]

3 you mean, in case the WG keep the numbers consistent, but I wonder if Eustace Kidd will be one of the new ones? Sengoku did say that he wanted to recruit Ace as one back when he was a famed rookie after all.

I don't think the rookies will be offered a position like that just yet. Ace was offered the position due to the extraordinarily fast growth and fame he had. Being a logia user also had an effect on him being offered the position. In any case, simply being a logia made ace more powerful than the rookies lol. The rookies could barely handle the fake kuma's with their entire crews to back them up, I doubt they would want them for such a position.

[Hiro Hayase]

Personally I find the idea of luffy waking up anytime before the next week outright absurd lol. Even after fighting lucci he slept for 3 days and the damage he took fighting him is insignificant and measly in comparison to all the damage he has taken since he entered ID. Luffy will definitely be pissed of about WB dying along with ace but overall there was no way to go around the physical and mental enhaustion he has gone through. I would not be surprised if he sleeps for over a month lol.

If what you say is true.....then I'll assume Luffy will sleep for an entire week before waking up in the custody of the Revolutionaries or WB pirates and Co. assuming that they made it out safely after witnessing WB's epic ending. Luffy will most definitely "mature" after this event and WB and Ace's most likely contribute to his growth. :amuse

[BlkHorus]

actually right now i dont think anyone will join maybe in the new world it would pretty interesting its not a must that the crew should be completed at this point .with so much going on overloading wont be necessary .
i think the focus should be on the strawhats getting back together now oda must give the other members enough panel time .



thanks man . this what makes a story better not always pulling a win

Yeah, I'm really hoping to get a few mini-arcs in the manga that focuses on the other SH getting back to SA.

I definitely need to see Zoro in action again.

But this arc was definitely great!

[Spike Spiegel]

so there is a chapter next week ?..and yeah I guess now is the time for this timeskip...awesomely awesome x) ..few mini arcs would be cool too..or whitebeard vs roger or something like that..I kinda don't wanna see the rest of this war..timeskip would be the perfect thing right now x)..damn I love the idea of a timeskip timeskip timeskip
....guess when one piece comes to an end I will be 30 x)

[White Silver King]

When WB died and said "I leave everything to you..." and it shows a pic of Marco, does that imply that Marco will be the new Captain of the WB crew? Or was it just a general statement that he is leaving everything to the next generation and/or his crew? I think Marco would make a good Captain to the WBs, he's a lot stronger than we've seen, Oda made of point of putting in that he wasn't taking his fight with Kizaru/keeping his guard up around Kizaru. So I think he has sufficient strength to keep the crew together, plus I'm a Marco fanboy lol.

On a side note, I hope Buggy was killed in the fight.

[BlkHorus]

I just want to see how the rest of the world reacts to change and the war. But most of all, how the world reacts to the fact that a rookie took part in the war, got to free Ace in the war, WB and Ace died but the rookie leaves teh war alive.

[godaijutsu-no-hito]

isn't Marshall his family name and teach his first name?? like in monkey d. dragon and monkey d. luffy... so your smile is quiet annoying to me.

Teach is Blackbeard's name. Ace and Whitebeard addressed him as Teach as well. In onepiece, almost everyone is called by their first name.

Funnily enough, Whitebeard's name of Edward Newton is a mixture of real life blackbeard's name Edward and Newton is the name of the prison which housed pirates such as Captain Kidd.

[Belisar]

The new chapter was just...... WOW!!!

The feelings whirled, the rage boiled.....all that in just ONE chapter! Amazing work Oda Sensei. You never cease to amaze me.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hIfZla1VWGI/Ski6pUhRzLI/AAAAAAAADx8/QlF8h-wIp9s/s400/oda1-1.gif

Hail to the king baby!

:worship2


I never thought very high about Whitebeard. For me he was just another character in the plot. Oda managed to give him in just one chapter so much depth that he became one of my favourites alongside Zoro.

Blackbeard who was thought to be the ultimate bad guy, whimpered for mercy in front of his sheer power and will. That's the whole different league. The league of Whitebeard & Gol D Roger! The whole Blackbeard crew was helpless in front of that man. A man with pure desires and love for his family. I have nothing but admiration for his character!



http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/235/frontwx.png (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/frontwx.png/)
EPIC



I only regret that he hasn't beaten the shit out of Blackbeard and his crew with his last strength. A bunch of cowards with no honour.



Anndd the award for the ugliest crew goes tooo.......

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9643/crewj.png (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/crewj.png/)



With this post i want to pay tribute for Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1923/backuu.png (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/backuu.png/)




PS: This is not a review!

PPS: I miss Zoro!!! http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/cryinganime.gif

[Shurou]

WB got hit by 152 bullets, not 562....

[msg]

Nice tribute Belisar:)

Prediction match up for the next chapter -

Sengoku vs San juan
Garp vs BB
Hancock vs caterina
basco, Palazzo, shriyuu vs the admirals
the rest vs Va

Small fighting will occur between BB crews and the marines but BB will flee afterwards.Marco and gang successfully retreated.Hancock will get injured but managed to escaped.Marco meeting up with rayleigh and pass uncousious luffy to him.

[Max Mojito]

After reading about the Ds iv come up with a small theory of where they came from, ( this might have been discussed before, i dont know), we know from Prof Clover that there use to be a really strong country back in the day and the World Gov destoryed it or something along those lines. the Ds can be the desendents of that country or the royal blood line or something like that, that way it all ties in together.. and plus ROger said they tried to hide the D in his name so it makes sense for the WG to try to erase every trace of a D and the old country

[Evec]

I actually hope the WB pirates would disband. Each commander would go back to their old crew and each vow to find one piece in honor of WB. If this happens, it would give the WG a bigger headache... imagine what was once 1 powerful crew (that was easy to keep an eye on) now turns into several 100s crew each going their separate way all over the world...

[msg]

huh...I wonder what are the supernovae are thinking right now?Will rayleigh come? Does dragon know about this war?Will the pacifistas be attacking BB and his gang.Hurry up already Oda..:amuselol

Can't wait for the next chapter!!!!...

[Bugzee]

Garp vs BB


:wtf


I wonder if we'll see Garp's true abilities against BB. :D I'm sure Garp will survive mind you. Will the PX Army have a say against the BB pirates??? :blink

[roguehavoc]

I think Luffy will be in care of Iva and Jumpie.But as he is in a unconsciuos state, Dragon (just wishing) is the one to meet him when he wakes up.
Someone should train him how to use his Haki and also a little emo treatment

[Hiro Hayase]

I just want to see how the rest of the world reacts to change and the war. But most of all, how the world reacts to the fact that a rookie took part in the war, got to free Ace in the war, WB and Ace died but the rookie leaves the war alive.

Yeah same here...Luffy's bounty is gonna skyrocket :D maaaan I really can't wait for the next chapter now.....:rawluffy

I wanna see how everyone in the One Piece World reacts like after the revelation that Luffy is Revolutionary Monkey D. Dragon's son and his brother Ace was Gol D. Roger's son. :)


After reading about the D.'s I've come up with a small theory of where they came from, ( this might have been discussed before, I don't know), we know from Prof Clover that there used to be a really strong country back in the day and the World Gov destroyed it or something along those lines. the Ds can be the descendants of that country or the royal blood line or something like that, that way it all ties in together.. and plus Roger said they tried to hide the D in his name so it makes sense for the WG to try to erase every trace of a D and the old country

I get where your theory is coming from and might possibly be true....maybe this ancient civilization is the one that created the all-powerful weapons that could destroy the entire world....and Roger probably hid it where One Piece is at. And only true holders of the Will of D. can access the place. :) The marines destroyed all the history that the ancient D. civilization had and tried to erase their existence and bloodlines for centuries. Thus, creating the Lost Century. This may have happened when the World Government was first founded by dozens of Kings and their kingdoms to crush this ancient civilization. :)

P.S. That's only a theory ;)

[Gcat88]

IF the WB crew spilt it wont be one crew per commander, some will merge.

[Bugzee]

I think BB's (and the rest of the crew) bounty will be the highlight compared to Luffy's new bounty (if he gets one!) imo.

You have the Supernova's and then you have the BB Pirates. :D

[Fox666]

I am not sure if there will be any major split. Marco was introduced as someone VERY valuable as a captain.

He is smart, very serious and has good control over his emotions. Ace in the other hand looks too immature.

[Lord Rayleigh]

I've read the chapter and it's awesome, especially from the flashback to Whitebeard's death.

I guess Lafitte must have a mythological zoan to be able to hypnotize people. I bet on the sphinx zoan.
And it seems Whitebeard really knew the true story and what the D are. That could explain the " strange feeling " he had about Teach and why he did not want Ace to go after him : it was because of what Roger told him about D people.

About the last words of Whitebeard. Does it mean the Rio Poneglyph is a prophecy about the world ? How One Piece could provoke the most important war of all time ? Does the future Pirate King not have the right to choose by himself if he wants to change the world with One Piece ?

And I've noticed that BB wears the same hat Roger used to wear. Anyway,
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5635/hatlordrayleigh.jpg

[sarutobi_sensei]

You do realize "New-Gate" is the English translation right? It's more probable that it means something else entirely in japanese.

Well he is Edward "Shirohige(Whitebeard)" Newgate in the English translation, but he is: Edowādo Nyūgēto which basically translates into the english form that way. Edward Newgate.

[senewe]

-this chapter is the best chapter
-this arc is the best arc
-panel showing WB's back is the best panel
-"not a wound of retreat scars it'' is the best line
-''One Piece... it exists'' is the best statement

and for sure
ODA IS THE BEST MANGAKA

[Lee-tyme7]

After reading about the Ds iv come up with a small theory of where they came from, ( this might have been discussed before, i dont know), we know from Prof Clover that there use to be a really strong country back in the day and the World Gov destoryed it or something along those lines. the Ds can be the desendents of that country or the royal blood line or something like that, that way it all ties in together.. and plus ROger said they tried to hide the D in his name so it makes sense for the WG to try to erase every trace of a D and the old country

If that's true the Luffy is from a Royal bloodline therefore Hancock can marry him LOL!

[sarutobi_sensei]

Why wouldn't she be able to marry him before? :|

Hmm, thinking on what Roger said to WB, it's obvious that it has to do with the Void Century and the Forgotten Kingdom/People.

I can just imagine the D's being actually the ones that were trying to form the alliance to unite the countrys and the 20 Kings actually came and took over that idea in order to do something after all this time.

It's a odd thought, not fully thought about, but it's still a possibility.

[k0dach1]

Actually, that whole Will of D makes sense. Probably a bloodline passed on from generation to generation of the Void Century leaders. It makes sense.

On another note:
Does anyone think One Piece is going to take a turn for darkness now that people are dying left and right.
I mean, Luffy can just order Robin to start killing every Marine they see from now on, and she can easily do it with her powers. 2 hands then a choke hold >.< or a broken neck X.X

[DARK]

I think BB's (and the rest of the crew) bounty will be the highlight compared to Luffy's new bounty (if he gets one!) imo.

You have the Supernova's and then you have the BB Pirates. :D

Yes, all Luffy did was infiltrate Impel Down, caused a lot of Hell there, and freed a bunch of generic prisoners plus a few Revolutionaries and Baroque Works members.
On the other hand, Blackbeard not only infiltrated Impel Down but also made a fool out of the World Government by taking the Shichibukai title and freeing four people for whom were "erased from history."
And when you really think about it, Luffy really did not participate in much of the fighting anyway.

[Finale]

Im looking forward to what the marines plan to do to try and stop BB's crew. Im thinking Sengoku finally gets killed after getting to show off his powers. After the war there can be all kinds of promotions in the Marines after all the loses they suffered. Also predicting that Coby and Helmeppo join Smoker's crew as Garp is likely done with the marines and also Smoker wants to gather a strong crew himself to take on the SHs.

[Xabaras]

:wtf


Will the PX Army have a say against the BB pirates??? :blink

The Pacifista will not raise a finger on BB as he is an allay, remember Hancock, they definety will stop against him, maybe not his crew member

[xstationcubed]

Actually, that whole Will of D makes sense. Probably a bloodline passed on from generation to generation of the Void Century leaders. It makes sense.

On another note:
Does anyone think One Piece is going to take a turn for darkness now that people are dying left and right.
I mean, Luffy can just order Robin to start killing every Marine they see from now on, and she can easily do it with her powers. 2 hands then a choke hold >.< or a broken neck X.X


I certainly hope not, at least not like that. I have no doubt that this is a milestone for the series, and in all likelihood the story will not be as innocent as it once was, but to see Luffy become a killer would just break it for me. It would also destroy what Oda's set up between him and BB. Making a character who has a dark parallel to every aspect of Luffy would be meaningless if Luffy became cruel himself.

On the other hand, we may not see a whole lot of killing even now. These may have been special occasions, the last remnants of an ended age. Oda's unpredictable like that, you never know how he'll swing the story.

[chitgoks]

If that's true the Luffy is from a Royal bloodline therefore Hancock can marry him LOL!

now, i wonder why the WG did not try to erase garp if that's the case

[FluffBall]

didn't it say that the bloodline has been extinguished but the will of gol d. roger and ace lives on so luffy can't have royal blood

[NoLimit89]

I have seen some debates regarding whether or not BB is a D. Some has interpreted the last few words of WB to BB to be that "BB is a D, but he's not the special few that Roger was waiting for" while others have interpreted it to mean that "BB is NOT a D altogether and that he or one of his ancestors was an imposter". I think that the correct interpretation should be the latter, and here is why:

Now, hang on, I know there's qualities that BB possess that makes him D like and that includes the ability to dream and the ability to act as a catalyst for change. You may even argue that just because BB is a schemer and plans his actions, that does not make him cowardly and that does not make him not a D. You are right about this. However, what makes BB not a D is this one thing, which I think Oda tried to emphasize as much as possible. BB did NOT smile!

Smiling in the face of death has been one thing that Oda made sure that we all noticed.

Roger when he got impaled, grinned like a monster after having inspired the world.

Luffy when he was about to be executed smiled and made his peace.

Saul when he got frozen, encouraged Robin with his dereshi shi shi.

Rouge died with a proud smile after having Ace.

And finally, Ace turned his frown up side down after having found his answer to that question. (Heck, Oda even went so far as to show Ace's smile when his fire power clashed with BB's darkness power just to throw off us readers.)

Now, what did BB do when he got choke held by WB? He manipulatively begged for his life in that moment. No smiles, just fear and panic.

I think that was also what WB saw just moments before he died. Hence he was confident in saying that "BB is not one of them".

[k-dom]

Yes the D are probably the pendant of the Tenryubito which are descendants of the world government fundators. However I found interesting that the will seems to be able to reincarnate, like Luffy has probably Roger's will and, like Whitebeard says, someone will one day carry Ace will.

Also someone makes me notice that Ace body can be seen on the double panel where Whitebeard attacks Blackbeard. He is recovered by a white sheet. I wonder what the marines will do with it.

[Bugzee]

The Pacifista will not raise a finger on BB as he is an allay, remember Hancock, they definety will stop against him, maybe not his crew member

Maybe. But, I'm sure Sento can command and change their objectives easily on the battlefield. :D


now, i wonder why the WG did not try to erase garp if that's the case

That's because Garp is a hero. He chased Roger throughout the GL. I'm sure there are other reasons why but it wasn't like Garp had the same intentions as Roger I guess.

:nuts One Piece exists! :nuts

[NoLimit89]

Also someone makes me notice that Ace body can be seen on the double panel where Whitebeard attacks Blackbeard. He is recovered by a white sheet. I wonder what the marines will do with it.

I'm guessing vegapunk is using his body to make an Ace pacifister. Fire logia body with computer chip brain.

Just to add insult to injury and get Luffy really emotional during the showdown.

[Black Lagoon]

now, i wonder why the WG did not try to erase garp if that's the case

He's a legendary Marine and when I say Marine I mean a real Marine ... he hates Pirates as much as Sengoku (Well I guess a bit less but that doesn't change the fact that he's a marine and his job is to put pirates in jail) ... the only problem is ... wait, problem isn't the right word I'd rather say weakness is Family. :)

[Fox666]

I'm guessing vegapunk is using his body to make an Ace pacifister. Fire logia body with computer chip brain.

Just to add insult to injury and get Luffy really emotional during the showdown.I think that, if they would make an Pacifista off a pirate, it would be Whitebeard. Nor Ace or Roger would be a good option, since they are normal guys. Whitebeard or Kuma are so big you can put any weapon inside them.

[bittman]

Just on the D's:

The World Government are not "against" the D's, they were in the past, but most likely they see the remnants as nothing more than a 'legacy' like the poneglyphs. Unfortunately, all the poneglyphs are bad news in one way or another, however most of the D's seem to have little to know knowledge regarding their middle initial.

The old saying goes "Let sleeping giants rest", and this seems to be the WG's approach to D's. Garp and Saul were trusted marines. A bit loose, but rose through the ranks without too much opposition nevertheless.

As for Blackbeard being a D or not: I think what Whitebeard meant is that Blackbeard is not a "real D" in what Roger was describing. Roger probably described the D's as something heroic and historic, but this doesn't always encapsulate everyone. It would be like grouping all the marines together as "the same", even though they all have very different beliefs. Heck, even a current countries like Drum and Alabasta has shown how diverse opinions in the same country can be given the right circumstances.

I'm sure not every D is the D Roger talked of. Not every marine is there because they like flowers. Not every pirate is there because they want One Piece. Not every Alabasta citizen believed in their king.

[goldb]

I'm sure we'll meet many more Ds before the end of the series and I'm sure not all of them will be the heroic type and those that Roger was waiting for. Heck even Dragon is "evil"; he's a terrorist

[Black Lagoon]

Also someone makes me notice that Ace body can be seen on the double panel where Whitebeard attacks Blackbeard. He is recovered by a white sheet. I wonder what the marines will do with it.

Yup, Ace's body is in their custody now, probably headed directly for Vegapunk.

But the last thing I want the pirates to do now is take Ace's body to a safe place and give him a decent funeral and a proper burial.


Just on the D's:

The World Government are not "against" the D's, they were in the past, but most likely they see the remnants as nothing more than a 'legacy' like the poneglyphs. Unfortunately, all the poneglyphs are bad news in one way or another, however most of the D's seem to have little to know knowledge regarding their middle initial.

The old saying goes "Let sleeping giants rest", and this seems to be the WG's approach to D's. Garp and Saul were trusted marines. A bit loose, but rose through the ranks without too much opposition nevertheless.

Garp and Saul were trusted only proves that not all D's are the same. Even though they aren't so different ... I mean regarding Roger and Luffy's sense of freedom, they just chose another path.

[dark lord]

Yup, Ace's body is in their custody now, probably headed directly for Vegapunk.

But the last thing I want the pirates to do now is take Ace's body to a safe place and give him a decent funeral and a proper burial.


this kinda thought is pretty farfetched for this following reasons :
garp is there he wouldnt allow it .
sengoku respects garp's feelings thus he wouldnt add insult to injury .
if the news is spread that actually ace is modified the WG will lose its credibility for its the PK's son for for god's sake .

[goldb]

Ace isn't gong to be part of some scientific experimentation, Garp will not allow it, after the emotional conflict of Ace's execution? come on guys... both Ace and WB will get a well deserved burial, I doubt it will be a ceremony or anything because they are still enemies of the WG. What I'd like to see happen is for the Marines to give back Ace and WB's bodies to the WB pirates so they can have a viking styles funeral...but that itself is an outside shot.

[BurninDarkness]

Hey how about this
COBY inherits aces will and bcomes an admiral
lolol
Who knows it might b the best option to make him an admiral which he will definetly bcome somtime

[Black Lagoon]

this kinda thought is pretty farfetched for this following reasons :
garp is there he wouldnt allow it .
sengoku respects garp's feelings thus he wouldnt add insult to injury .
if the news is spread that actually ace is modified the WG will lose its credibility for its the PK's son for for god's sake .



I don't know about Garp's feeling and Senguko but after what he did I won't be surprised.

But Yeah, I agree that's why I wrote the last phrase ^^ ... I mean I see it kinda far-fetched too, and not because of Garp's feeling ... it's just because neither the pirates nor Garp are going to let that happen or even think on leaving Ace's body behind, I know that they already left those bastards lay a their dirty hands on his body but I guess that won't happen again.

[Ero-Sanji]

I'm I the only one curious about Akainu's fate?
I don't know why but it feels like he really died even though that's probably not going to happen. I guess we'll know in a few chapters.

About Ace's body being experimented on, I don't think so, not a chance.

[Black Lagoon]

^ After the last scene of BlackBeard I wouldn't mind if Akainu's alive (I hate BB more :nerve)

Shirryu somehow confirmed Magellan being raped :grin

[topkomputer]

He's a legendary Marine and when I say Marine I mean a real Marine ... he hates Pirates as much as Sengoku (Well I guess a bit less but that doesn't change the fact that he's a marine and his job is to put pirates in jail) ... the only problem is ... wait, problem isn't the right word I'd rather say weakness is Family. :)

I don't think Garp becomes a marine for that. But I believe 'justice' is the reason he became a marine, just like Coby and Helmeppo. Pirates aren't most likely not kind like Strawhats, they plunders, destroying country (like BB), etc. So justice is needed.

[Zatono]

Shirryu somehow confirmed Magellan being raped :grin

Yeah, he was most likely gang banged, plus there's the fact that he just finished fighting tons of high level people and he even used his most powerful move. He was definitely not at full power, but an off panel defeat is still ridiculous.

[Rotten The Wizard]

curious as to what will happen next....The pirates can only escape if Aokiji allows it. We know He can freeze the ocean for miles. However Teach and his supercrew pose a New problem for sengoku, theres no way in hell he's gonna allow them to just walk away.

Ironic, the whitebeard pirates will live because of Teach

[k-dom]

As for Blackbeard being a D or not: I think what Whitebeard meant is that Blackbeard is not a "real D" in what Roger was describing. Roger probably described the D's as something heroic and historic, but this doesn't always encapsulate everyone.


Whitebeard doesn't says Blackbeard is not a D, he says he is not the one who will make the great thing Roger was expecting a D will do one day.


Ace isn't gong to be part of some scientific experimentation, Garp will not allow it, after the emotional conflict of Ace's execution? come on guys... both Ace and WB will get a well deserved burial, I doubt it will be a ceremony or anything because they are still enemies of the WG. What I'd like to see happen is for the Marines to give back Ace and WB's bodies to the WB pirates so they can have a viking styles funeral...but that itself is an outside shot.

They will probably do the same thing they did to Roger corpse but we do not know what it is

[BurninDarkness]

Does shanks have a D in his name??
and also CROCUS said " THESE MIGHT BE THE PIRATES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR"
ANd what does whitebeard mean by "Those pirates who have inherited rogers will"
Isnt it supposed to be singular

[dark lord]

right now im confused too one says its only a man and another mentions a group of people so guys i would be thankful if you clarify this

[goldb]

Since Crocus was a part of Roger's crew during the time in which they conquered the Grand Line he too must know what the "will of D" means and that phrase seems to make sense in these circumstances seeing what WB said. Another thing is now that I read ch.100 again when Smoker met Dragon, he said "the government is looking for you" to which Dragon replied "the world is waiting for our answer" is he talking about his revolutionary army or the Ds? I'd say the RA because I'd wonder how Dragon would know the true history of the world? maybe I'm just scratching in the air or whatever but it'll be interesting when we finally meet him...

[mistabuu]

In my book, the most epic death is still Going Merry's. I cried a bit...

[kkck]

In my book, the most epic death is still Going Merry's. I cried a bit...

The boat? Nah, it had to go, it was a worthless old boat which never really stood a chance against the GL. I was even glad when it got replaced lol. Merry lives through some parts of the sunny go though. Quite frankly, I don't think it is fair to WB and Ace to refer to the boat being replaced as a death though -and in all honesty, I do think Ace had it coming for being a reckless arrogant idiot who got himself captured and forced his crew to war-.

[JetPistol]

Whitebeard doesn't says Blackbeard is not a D, he says he is not the one who will make the great thing Roger was expecting a D will do one day.

Someone before mentioned that when WB was about to kill BB, he was panicking and begging him to stop, the real D's smile at the face of death. I guess realizing this he stopped and that's why he said he's not the "D." Roger is waiting for.

[undertoe]

Why is there so much Vegapunk talk? It's absolutely ridiculous and implausible. They no longer have DF powers. Ace is no longer "Fire-fist." He's just a normal dead body now. The only one who has use for dead bodies is Moria, and Ace's body isn't particularly great. Whitebeard's body is too damaged to be useful. The marines might do something with the bodies, but they hold no value for Vegapunk.

[maxikki]

i think on the next chapter the WB crew is going to escape, after all the marines completed their plan and something more, Ace and Whitebeard are dead. but because of what WB said, the marines are going to go nuts.the thing that WB said about BB not being the person who Roger was waiting for is pretty important because BB believes in fate and not fearing death, but when he was going to be killed by WB he was afraid of death. he might have the "D" but he's one of many. i think the next chapter is going to be about the death of WB and Ace spreading around the world, some people might happy and others will be sad, but this is going to have a huge impact on the world since the balance of the three great powers have become unbalanced. WB is gone, the marines have suffered a huge losses, many marines dead, HQ is ruins and their island was destroyed.

[Akainu]

Does shanks have a D in his name??
and also CROCUS said " THESE MIGHT BE THE PIRATES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR"
ANd what does whitebeard mean by "Those pirates who have inherited rogers will"
Isnt it supposed to be singular
We don't know actually, since we don't know Shanks full name.

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[JollyRoger]

According to you what will happen to the WB's body?

[Dice]

"Even in death his body never gave in" or something along that line should be a signal how strong his body still was. Furthermore we have seen how Howback can "repair" bodies to a certain degree. I agree on Ace though.
I want to point out that I don't think that they will do something with the bodies.

[JollyRoger]

"Even in death his body never gave in" or something along that line should be a signal how strong his body still was. Furthermore we have seen how Howback can "repair" bodies to a certain degree. I agree on Ace though.
I want to point out that I don't think that they will do something with the bodies.

I mean if it will resume by its crew or the Navy?

[Lostromos]

I mean if it will resume by its crew or the Navy?

imo they will do nothing with the bodies.They will probably get a normal buriel

[undertoe]

According to you what will happen to the WB's body?

IF the WG does anything with either of the bodies, I think it's very safe to start out by saying that it won't involve Vegapunk. Now, that said, anything the WG could have done with Ace's body, they can now do it with WB's body, which is clearly more valuable. My guess is that Garp will indeed see to it that Ace's remains are properly handled. I think a cremation would be appropriate ;).

As for WB's body, if they do anything with it, they'll likely make a show of it. Make an example of him. "This is what happened to the world's strongest man when he opposed the World Government!" They can claim credit for the kill.

As I state this, keep several things in mind. Squad's betrayal was not broadcast, so the world has no idea that wound was inflicted. Furthermore, and this is key, we don't know how much of BB's speech to Sengoku was heard over the broadcast. It's likely that no one outside of WG HQ heard about his betrayal at this point. Thus, as far as everyone watching was concerned, BB likely was acting out the will of the WG as a shichibukai when his crew killed WB. Thus, the WG could still claim that they killed the world's strongest man.

Now, I'm not sure if the world government is capable of such a heinous act as parading around WB's body as an example or even if the world is unaware of BB's treachery. At this point, though, I think it's the most likely point of action regarding WB's remains outside of a proper disposal.

[Black Mirror]

Why is there so much Vegapunk talk? It's absolutely ridiculous and implausible. They no longer have DF powers. Ace is no longer "Fire-fist." He's just a normal dead body now. The only one who has use for dead bodies is Moria, and Ace's body isn't particularly great. Whitebeard's body is too damaged to be useful. The marines might do something with the bodies, but they hold no value for Vegapunk.

if you think back to enel, after he died his DF was stll working and brought him back to life.

vegapunk might extract the powers...

[undertoe]

if you think back to enel, after he died his DF was stll working and brought him back to life.

vegapunk might extract the powers...

This is a pretty sketchy area. I'd say the only reason he was able to revive was that he wasn't actually "dead" yet; his heart had stopped beating. His brain was still oxygenated enough that he was able to revive without any significant brain damage. This is why his power persisted.

But okay, even IF Vegapunk COULD experiment on the bodies, I see no value in Ace's body. What is he gonna do? Make fire-breathing Pacifistas? Franky is evidence that the technology for fire manipulation already exists.

[Fox666]

Probably the DF grow up after the body is destroyed. If you freeze the DF user to prevent decomposition, that won't happen...

[Uriel]

They will make him a zombie, that what will happen. A zombie for Moria.

Uhhh.
I say that after someone dies, the akuma no mi will grow somewhere else. Why I think that? Because WG by now you have got all the fruits. D:

[Fox666]

Maybe there is a way to trace the Devil Fruit.

[undertoe]

I dunno if it's just me, but I'm more concerned about the Gura Gura no Mii and Mera Mera no Mii than their previous owners' bodies.

WB's fruit is probably the most powerful Paramecia-type fruit we've seen yet. Fortunately for the world, it was eaten by a man with a fairly quiet dream: wanting a family doesn't exactly promote a trail of destruction. What if someone more tyrannous or malevolent were to eat the fruit now? It could be devastating for the entire world!

Obviously Ace's fruit would make for an interesting plot development later on in the series, but I think WB's fruit is a much larger concern.

[Uriel]

Maybe, but we don't know. Maybe it will be the research of Vegapunk from now on :O

And yes, I'm also more worried about Gura Gura No Mi. Although there is a chance that the tree (Or the fruit to reappear) takes long to grow, so....Let's just wait and see.

[dark lord]

the gura gura fruit should go to ussop . wouldnt that be great . the mera mera fruit should go to coby . but this isnt gonna happen

[Uriel]

The least Ussop needs is an Akuma no Mi. Over confidence after low confidence results badly when it's defeated the first time and works against him.

He needs HARD training and Haki. Nothing more, nothing less.