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korosuke_mh
March 10, 2010, 09:21 AM
Hello.
There is a thing that seems to become major issues for the fan of a Japanese comic and I want to tell it.

The Tokyo assembly tries to revise the content of the ordinance "Ordinance concerning youth's healthy development" now.

When the ordinance is summarized, it is the one "Sales of the work judged to influence the youth harmfully are restricted".

The revised content under the discussion is that the one judged to be "Unhealthiness" from authorities receives the restriction of sales about the expression thing such as comics where the undergarment appearance, the nude appearance, and the Sexual description of boy/girl's character are included.


In the point that becomes a problem, the definition of the targeted boy/girl is a point "One recognized that the description is less than 18 years old".
However, the standard of this judgment is indefinite.

First of all, if this revision is resolved, a lot of adult comics will become objects of the restriction.
But, a bigger problem is to be contained a lot of shonen (shojo) comics that have adhered the tag of "Ecchi" now in the object of this restriction.
Or, there is a possibility also, of other target comics for the restriction.
The reason: standard of judgment assumed to be restriction is vague.
Moreover, if this ordinance passes it in Tokyo, it becomes the problem of the Japanese whole country as a result because of the publication industry and the circulation system.


It is assumed that it becomes a violation of the freedom of expression and the protest campaign of the above-mentioned ordinance revision has occurred in Japan now.
However, the possibility of passing it is high at the end of this month as the fact.
And, if it is early, it is scheduled to be enforced in July this year.

How does you think about this proposed regulation?


It introduces the link to the WEB site (Japanese) where information on this ordinance revision was brought together.
http://mitb.bufsiz.jp/

I am sorry by poor English.

segua
March 11, 2010, 09:16 PM
This is very interesting. So this ordinance essentially is censorship issue. I could see the argument for better morality but it does restrict freedom of expression. I hope that a beneficial compromise is reached and not an absurd one.

Xadyu
March 15, 2010, 04:39 AM
This topic deserves to be discussed on this website, so feel free to barg in and express yourself about this new regulation.

The regulation isn't active yet, but it could soon happen. Tons of mangaka's opposed to this, there's a short list of them in the spoiler below. (Thanks dtshyk of MAL for the list).


Takao Saitou (http://myanimelist.net/people/2907/Takao_Saitou)
Kenichi Kitami (http://myanimelist.net/people/9145/Kenichi_Kitami)
Mitsuru Adachi (http://myanimelist.net/people/2104/Mitsuru_Adachi)
Machiko satonaka (http://myanimelist.net/people/6218/Machiko_Satonaka)
Rumiko Takahashi (http://myanimelist.net/people/1891/Rumiko_Takahashi)
Gosho Aoyama (http://myanimelist.net/people/2804/Gosho_Aoyama)
Moto Hagio (http://myanimelist.net/people/3052/Moto_Hagio)
Keisuke Itagaki (http://myanimelist.net/people/4488/Keisuke_Itagaki)
Yasuhiro Imagawa (http://myanimelist.net/people/3710/Yasuhiro_Imagawa)
Yoshikazu Yasuhiko (http://myanimelist.net/people/2220/Yoshikazu_Yasuhiko)
Kaiji Kawaguchi (http://myanimelist.net/people/2204/Kaiji_Kawaguchi)
Makoto Ogino (http://myanimelist.net/people/2695/Makoto_Ogino)
Hiroshi Motomiya (http://myanimelist.net/people/6469/Hiroshi_Motomiya)
Tetsuya Chiba (http://myanimelist.net/people/6217/Tetsuya_Chiba)
Hiroki Yagami (http://myanimelist.net/people/2923/Hiroki_Yagami)
Tohru Fujisawa (http://myanimelist.net/people/2318/Tohru_Fujisawa)
Tetsuya Koshiba (http://myanimelist.net/people/2456/Tetsuya_Koshiba)
Makoto Kobayashi (http://myanimelist.net/people/3540/Makoto_Kobayashi)
Naoki Serizawa (http://myanimelist.net/people/4093/Naoki_Serizawa)
Jun Fukami (http://myanimelist.net/people/4169/Jun_Fukami)
Ken Akamatsu (http://myanimelist.net/people/1883/Ken_Akamatsu)
Yasunari Toda (http://myanimelist.net/people/2472/Yasunari_Toda)
Kenji Hamaoka (http://myanimelist.net/people/5381/Kenji_Hamaoka)
Ken-etsu Satou (http://myanimelist.net/people/2416/Kenetsu_Satou)
Takayuki Yamaguchi (http://myanimelist.net/people/2635/Takayuki_Yamaguchi)
Yousuke Takahashi (http://myanimelist.net/people/8801/Yousuke_Takahashi)
Masahiro Itosugi (http://myanimelist.net/people/3742/Masahiro_Itosugi)
Kaworu Watashiya (http://myanimelist.net/people/2516/Kaworu_Watashiya)
Satosumi Takaguchi (http://myanimelist.net/people/2249/Satosumi_Takaguchi)
Kenji Yamamoto (http://myanimelist.net/people/2754/Kenji_Yamamoto)
Yoshitoshi Abe (http://myanimelist.net/people/1991/Yoshitoshi_Abe)
Fujiko A. Fujio (One half of Fujiko Fujio, known for Doreamon)
Hiraku Kaneko (director of "Seikon no Qwaser (http://myanimelist.net/anime/6500/Seikon_no_Qwaser)")
Hiroyuki Yoshino (series organizer of "Mai-HiME (http://myanimelist.net/anime/98/Mai-HiME)")

The news article is right over here (http://mangahelpers.com/news/details/341), check it out if you haven't.

So, I want to know your thoughts about this.
Would you support this? Or would you oppose it? And why?

I myself would oppose, for the reason said in my news article. It violates the freedom of expression, and if this goes through, who knows how that can be affected.

It might start out like this, but it can only get worse from that point on. And besides, some media just can't live without those so-called "fictitious characters".

Anyway, let me (and everyone else know) what you think about this regulation of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government.

edit: And if you vote, please post the reason why you choose that option. Votes without reason (or unknown reason) are of no use in serious topics, so please refrain of voting without posting.

bittman
March 15, 2010, 05:10 AM
*shrugs* I'm from a country that's trying to censor the entire internet (Australia), so to me this is nothing but:

I can see what the goal is. I mean, have you watched any live action shows where little 8 year old girls flash and make adult jokes? Considering Japan is a culture that is influenced by animated works just as much as live action works, it's not that hard to see it as a connection. And kids always associate best with kids, so if one child sees another (fictional or not) going about things a certain way, why wouldn't they think it was normal?

I mean, many of us "play-acted" Dragonball Z as kids. What if kids play-acted Kodomo no Jikan?
(not what I think, just giving you the other side of the story as most likely invented by dinosaurs)

That said, yeah I get the freedom of expression thing. And, despite a lot of the jokes and the falling success rate of japanese men working with japanese women, there aren't really that many incidents in Japan compared to the rest of the world.

I am against this. I'm all for "smart" laws, this just seems like a silly one. Like putting a speed hump in the middle of a T-intersection rather than either believing common sense will prevail or putting up a set of street lights. Take that analogy as you will.

It's the same kind of "goal" dinosaurs in my country enforce in regards to an R18+ classification for games.

EDIT: Also, define minor? Are we talking preteen or everything under 18? If it's everything under 18, I can only think of about 3 mangas that will somehow escape this. Even DBZ had a teenage Bulma in a lot of "sexual expression".

dolpiff
March 15, 2010, 05:11 AM
its high time something be done to prevent the expansion of all loli-related stuff if you ask me..
whatever argument the people that enjoy it might find to defend themselves, it still encourage deviants (if you are aroused it by it it cannot be innocent, even if you think it's only virtual stuff and such it still participate in changing your brain/desires somewhat, in a dangerous direction)

sry for my sucky english but i hope i managed to convey my opinion

segua
March 15, 2010, 05:16 AM
This issue is one of those threading-the-fine-line kind of topic. The extremities are really absurd.

On one hand, there are manga's out there that shouldn't be out there just because of it's gruesome or inappropriate content. On one hand, this ordinance will also punish the rest of the mangas in the market. Bottom line though, I think that the government shouldn't regulate this industry and that the industry and it's consumer will self-regulate it.

This reminds me of taxes. When taxes were first proposed, it was levied against the rich and the lower class unanimously support passing the tax law. Once the tax law were in placed, later, the very same tax law that the lower class supported were also applied to them. Go figure right?

So in the long run, this Ordinance Regulation, will not be healthy. First it might just be for manga but then it might soon start being apply to any publication such as newspapers, magazines and etc. So the long term effects will be negative even though the initial intentions were well-meant.

So my vote is to oppose this regulation.

dolpiff
March 15, 2010, 05:24 AM
the industry and it's consumer will self-regulate it.


i don't think it will

most shocking pedo stuff is often doujinshi or small public oriented and authors can get off by selling only a few thousand copies.. and you will always find at least as many deviants (esp. in Japan) to buy a so low amount on conventions or such..then they get exported, uploaded, even translated, and find a larger worldwide audience

Yusaku Jon 3
March 15, 2010, 05:37 AM
I second the opinion expressed by dolpiff. There seems to be quite an explosion of pornographic lolicon/shoutacon stuff out there at this time and I'm not very comfortable catching a glimpse of it, especially when the media reports a child being kidnapped, raped and murdered every so often. Who can predict when such a thing could be influenced in certain people?

I've been turned off at various fansites online because of how the loli fetish had worked its way in. Given the proper context, I might see an Ataru Moroboshi (Rumiko Takahashi's Urusei Yatsura) or an older Naruto Uzumaki getting a little too curious for their own good, but not to the point where some of these fan works have gone. On the other hand, there's no way to really control what goes on outside of where this ordinance may take effect. The Internet is a big place, after all.

What it comes down to for me is to avoid the sites known to pander exclusively to all the deviants out there and to stick to those sites which pursue fandom in a fashion more appropriate to the context of their respective series. The only drawback that I see to laws like this is that they can be abused but, considering the examples of what's been seen, I can see it keeping the explicit child pornography under a tighter rein.

dumbyugi
March 15, 2010, 05:47 AM
EDIT: Also, define minor? Are we talking preteen or everything under 18? If it's everything under 18, I can only think of about 3 mangas that will somehow escape this. Even DBZ had a teenage Bulma in a lot of "sexual expression".

It's everything under 18 I believe.

bittman
March 15, 2010, 05:48 AM
Just wanted to also clarify:

I'm against the lolicon/shotacon stuff that floats around. Banning that I have absolutely no qualms with.

However, the moment you impose a law with the sort of "languid" wording this one seems to have, where is the line in the sand drawn?

Kindergarten having sex? Banned. Fine
Kindergarten panty shot in humour situation. Banned? Still fine?
Kindergarten talking about liking other females? Banned? Goodbye Cardcaptor Sakura?

Teenager having sex? Banned? Where's the age limit? How do you define that?
Teenager talking about having sex? Banned? Why? Teenagers talk about nothing else anyway?

Point is: I'd have to see the exact wording, but what defines "juvenille" and "sexual expression"?

On those two words alone, a 17 year old girl getting changed could be banned. Goodbye to a lot of scenes from almost every manga.

@ dumbyugi: This is what I'm guessing also. Doesn't Japan have a rating system they can properly apply to illustrated works? (I would assume so) And if so, why isn't it being policed more heavily. If this was the case, they would have a series of "adult" works which would fit go beyond the 18+/X category, and my interpretation would simply be that anything already in this category that depicts minors (even under 18) should be banned from sale and distribution.

That sort of thing is what should be done. Seems like common sense really...

Chibi-Chibi
March 15, 2010, 07:06 AM
I'm against it. This is like saying you should not draw any children at all no matter what they're doing?
So what about novels; i'll kick anybodies ass that will tell me you can't get this kind of stuff there. Yes, visual presentation is different in both medias but on the very end its still the same.
I am against senseless rape scenes with children and stuff like that, but i'm absolutely against anybody trying to restrict an author when s/he is trying to express reality and with it tell an important message to an audience. I'm pretty much talking about sainen here (and maybe jousei at times) because that is the only place in manga world where anybody would even care to tell a serious message by using children in what ever situation that to most naive people seems impossible.

Either way this all leads back to Unicef trying to restrict manga heavily saying it encourages pedophiles.
My 2 cents? Before trying to restrict something that is on the very end just paper (or pixels) try to act in RL because nowadays you have lots of people doing inappropriate stuff with children, and believe me manga as such is the last reason why they're doing it.

Gcat88
March 15, 2010, 07:15 AM
The reason people are against this is because this is just the beginning. If this regulation passes that means that they will find ways to ban other things in manga/anime. It would be like someone putting a ban in the music industry, so after other bans would come out and then the industry would lose its freedom. I oppose this ban, however at the same time i dont think that everyone should have access to any type of manga. Certain topics, and images, should be limited to a certain age group.

dumbyugi
March 15, 2010, 07:38 AM
The major problem is that "sexual expression" is such a vague term. It could mean anything from harmless panty shots to full on sex. I mean, as an example, Mikuru from Haruhi Suzumiya is only 16 and is groped and shown in sexually provocative poses a fair bit, does this mean that Haruhi would be banned? Or is that tame enough under "sexual expression".

That being said, I don't support things like loli-rape and the like, but a panty shot or two ain't a big deal.

strawhatsarah
March 15, 2010, 07:38 AM
I tend to agree that the over-sexualization of minors in manga can become too much sometimes even for my liberal tastes. However, this doesn't mean that I agree we should start banning things in manga. I believe in free creativity, and allowing society to choose what they want to read or not.

vaanvoiller
March 15, 2010, 08:57 AM
I was more surprised that they actually think about this. It takes them until 2010 to realize that lolis is wrong. I'm okay with panty-shot, nude scene, hentai and everything but if it's involve a child than I think it just wrong. There has to be a bottom line somewhere.

* I doubt they will go any further than this with the regulation. We're talking about Japan here. It takes another 50 years before they can think that excessive gore on child is wrong.

Oxwivi
March 15, 2010, 09:24 AM
I understand why anyone would want to support this, but the point here is, that they will completely ban it, & as the news article stated interpreting such scenes as 'sexual expressions' can be expanded limitlessly. So, for example, a character fantasising about anything related to sex (without actually showing it) can can also be interpreted as sexual expression. That's pretty stupid.

korosuke_mh
March 15, 2010, 10:04 AM
The discussion of this matter seems to have been begun newly.
I want to induce it by the upsurge of that.
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58939

THM Nindo
March 15, 2010, 10:07 AM
It all depends just how much they would go into banning stuff...
Think about it... they could ban Naruto, because Naruto is minor and he does Sexy-no-jutsu....
And they would ban Berserk too...
Many of the favorites manga would be harmed by that proposition.

I'm not against a regulation against those lolicon stuff, but it needs to be directed solely toward the pedophile stuff, not all manga...

So, for THAT regulation, I'm opposed to it.
They need to make a new one, that wouldn't harm all the mangakas...

Dive
March 15, 2010, 10:46 AM
I draw the line with sex. As long as it's for comedic purposes, I'm cool. I'm boarder-line with panty shots, though. For younger kids, it's really disturbing. Even for some teens it bothers me.

korosuke_mh
March 15, 2010, 10:52 AM
The problem of this ordinance is that the definition of control subjects is vague.
Therefore, there is danger to which control subjects are stretched.

For instance, the level of "Weekly Shounen Jump" can become the object of the restriction.
I think it is to contradict the freedom of expression by me.

A lot of famous comic writers in Japan are signing reversely now.
However, the possibility of this ordinance to be passed is to our regret high.

Certainly, I think that there is a work that should be restricted like Lolita complex, too.
However, I feel some of men's malice in not clarifying the standard to judge it.

~FrienD~
March 15, 2010, 12:30 PM
lol this childish tokyonese adults(they're selfish adults hogging all the righteousness while they hide their dirty stuff), they censor loli but not legal age character doing worse things, if they're really serious then ban all, its fetish discrimination.(i'm not into loli, i'm in for gore and historical characters)

they ban loli but not shota?! this is gender discrimination as well, btw there ain't too much shota is that why?.

i guess this ordinance is made by female activists,parent activists, and christian ppl among japan, to hell with that christianity isn't even more than 15% in japan, females are more oppressive in japan than males, and parents well they're parents expect nothing from them but to act as parents but during their youthful days they sure had a good time with their fetish.

BYE-BYE-ECCHI BYe-Bye-gags

what the hell is wrong with sexual activities? it's the norm of every living thing, its a way of mankind's cycle.

Will this ordinance be implemented only on tokyo?

just look at what censoring and religion did to our country, we're almost the home of all gay ppl in the world, currently the catholics are opposing condoms here, no more safe sex.
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(if you are aroused it by it it cannot be innocent, even if you think it's only virtual stuff and such it still participate in changing your brain/desires somewhat, in a dangerous direction)

sry for my sucky english but i hope i managed to convey my opinion

there are times when an individual gets aroused with out doing anything at all be it male/female its a natural response its mankind's nature(its all in your conditioning/program).

THM Nindo
March 15, 2010, 01:06 PM
I draw the line with sex. As long as it's for comedic purposes, I'm cool. I'm boarder-line with panty shots, though. For younger kids, it's really disturbing. Even for some teens it bothers me.

Yeah, I agree...
For comedy, it's fine...

Just like in One Piece, when they stumble on a naked Nami (even though, she 18, but it would still be funny if she was 16).

And, I'm not a big fan of Shoujo, but from what I know of it, it's often about a girl falling in love with a boy, and learning love and everything...
Usually, those girls are under 18, so, wouldn't that kill the whole genre!?

I mean... I have nothing against a manga showing people of 15-16 having sex, if it's part of the story...
(as long as it's not too explicit for no reason)... :eyeroll

But, I do agree that all this loli stuff (under 14 years old) must be taken seriously...
I just think they shouldn't target the manga, but more like the doujin or the hentai stuff...
They really need to target the right people and not penalize all the mangakas for the faults of only a group...

Orpheus 2
March 15, 2010, 11:27 PM
True. They need to specify the conditions for such a law or ordinance. It must be both clear and precise as well as beneficial to the whole society.

This ordinance would pretty much remove all shoujo manga and most of the shounen. In other words, we may never see Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, or the other great manga out there since one way or another they have some form of "sexual expression". This in turn will make the industry die out faster leaving only the seinen, josei and other mangas that aren't shounen or shoujo. It would also hurt the light, visual and sound novels since they also employ some "sexual expression".

I am also against lolicon but please be specific. This ordinance can kill the chances of the survival of the anime industry since many of the consumers are of the shounen and shoujo demographics.

Trejon
March 16, 2010, 02:22 PM
this is really amusing, saying all that stuff in the regulation, im tottaly against it, im fine with lolicon banned something like kodomo no jikan, but a ban for "sexual EXPRESSION" are they fkng stupid?, sexual expresion and panty shots or any other ecchi scene happens in almost every ecchi manga i can think of, and most of them are under 18, around 14-16 years old, and for a sex scene betwen teenagers?? i mean COME ON!! ALMOST EVERY BOY/GIRL have already had sex around 15-16 years old!! and even some makes mistakes from it(use a condom dude)

EDIT: Just think about it, at 14-16 years old you are practically and adult in mind. thats the age when you start getting real life experiences and stop being naive...

shaheer
March 16, 2010, 11:19 PM
well dun know bout iu guys but i really hate pedophyllic (lollies like 8-9) yrs in a sex scene. its gross and sick

Newkerzy
March 17, 2010, 05:25 AM
Well, I don't really have anything intelligent to say, but this opposition against the new law may very well depends on support from the Big 3 considering they're by far the most influential mangakas right now. And I also have a feeling that Kishimoto has a good idea of how politics work.... If those 3 are on opposing, it would give some boost to the opposition and influence a lot of people.
Just my 2 cents

Kaiten
March 17, 2010, 01:30 PM
the bill (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-03-16/asahi/tokyo-virtual-child-porn-bill-put-on-hold) has been put on hold. There will not be a vote this month, that will be delayed until the next legislative session. The earliest the next vote can take place is June.

Coccyzus
March 18, 2010, 11:32 AM
Having voted, I feel obligated to explain, but pretty much everyone's said it already: yes I agree certain things could use more regulation, yes some loli hentai and shota are really overboard, but yeah, this law is far too all encompassing and easily abused.

I don't think I saw this above, so here's another link to more info:
http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/25510/Game+Anime+and+Manga+Regulations.html

and here are links to sign a petition against the ruling. Now, mind you, I'm only putting these up for reference. I don't read JP, and I got this from an external site. If I'm breaking any rules, please let me know and delete this message.
http://pics.livejournal.com/ravensilver/pic/000a28hk
http://pics.livejournal.com/ravensilver/pic/000a3gas
http://www.shomei.tv/project-1025.html

kanamechidori
March 19, 2010, 07:02 AM
Orihime, Ichigo, time skip Naruto, ts Sakura, ts Hinata are all under 18.

From the way I read it it meant anything that's too arousing...like swimsuits or ecchi fanservice.

Also the law wouldn't allow a "16000 year old alien princess who looks like a 16 year old girl" because that loopholes closed.

It's as ridiculous as Australia banning A cups, it won't just be tacky fanservice anime becoming illegal, but any anime taking place in high school would be affected.

If hot spring episodes, fanservice, under 18 anime romance, and swimsuits are all banned nothing would be left.

Japan would screw it's entertainment industry and I doubt the Japanese would buy anything from their version of america's old comic book code authority. The comic code killed american comics, the japanese code will kill anime and manga.

Go Nagai said that if he wasn't allowed to draw naked schoolgirls, his first manga would never have been printed, he would have been imprisoned, and his talent wouldn't have developed so no Getter Robo, Cutie Honey, Devilman etc.

~FrienD~
March 19, 2010, 07:23 AM
good news looks like this ordinance is now a waste in tokyo and is now proceeding in osaka

Trejon
March 19, 2010, 07:31 PM
well thats at least a relief, but are you sure that ordinance didnt work out in tokyo??, i need to know more about it, to in the worst case prepare me for the wort and hang my self :darn

kanamechidori
March 19, 2010, 08:40 PM
It wasn't rejected or voted down.

It was put off until a latter date.

That's the spineless way of saying we aren't necessarilly voting for it but we aren't voting against it, we'd like to have an opinion but we have careers to think about...so if you want to ban all anime send me money, if you want to save the schoolgirls, send me money, just send me money.

None of them have the integrity or the spine necessary to stand by their vote

~FrienD~
March 30, 2010, 05:41 AM
well their politicians are way too cautious to do anything with the ordinance, assuming there are way too many otaku+hikikomoris(hikikomoris might commit suicide, and bam! under populated japan got run down, no more work force).

Negative Syndicate
April 01, 2010, 09:19 PM
I'm just wondering, what is the possibility that this regulation going to be passed?

korosuke_mh
April 02, 2010, 05:07 AM
There is a very big organization "Nationwide Japan PTA(Parent-Teacher Association) conference" in Japan.
The organization generalizes PTA in nationwide various places.

The activity of this organization includes the following items.
1)Achievement of class for five days during week in complete elementary and junior high schools
2)Healthy outside the school life
3)Prevention of juvenile delinquency
4)Improvement of family education
5)Child abuse, prevention of bullying, and prevention

It insists that the enumerated thing be excluded as follows as one of the actions to achieve these.
・It is an undesirable magazine in the youth.
・Undesirable TV is reported to the youth.
・It is a vulgar program of undesirable TV in the youth.
Media to be excluded are selected by the inside of organization (PTA) questionnaire etc.

The member of PTA (guardian to a childs) has a lot of politicians to politics who take up the PTA's insistence as it is influential because there are quite a lot of numbers.
It is the one that this ordinance was generated by such details, too.

When the resolution postponement was questioned by the mass communication, Tokyo governor declared, "It doesn't know what one the content called undesirable media was".
In a word, it is a situation not necessarily seriously discussed though it embarrassed.

It is more important for politicians not to make PTA an enemy than the content of this agenda.

~FrienD~
April 05, 2010, 04:08 AM
Boys love/yaoi ban???
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/sandaluxu231/th_blban.jpg (http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/sandaluxu231/blban.jpg)-translate for yourself(all in jap)

ninryu
April 06, 2010, 10:02 AM
it's pretty complicated, in one hand because of the loli men in japan prefer stay in home and play eroge instead of find a girlfriend so the birth rates in japan are very low; also sometimes the ecchi levels are way too much and pure perverted (see Seikon no Qwaser if you have the courage).

in the other hand it's too much to disallow perverted teenager otakus have their ecchi. ecchi can also be funny if there isn't too much, and in romance and yuri it means there's development. ; )

i think it's the best to allow ecchi as long as it's not pedo pornography or somthing really disgusting.

kanamechidori
April 07, 2010, 11:14 PM
They're trying to ban swim suits and school uniforms.

Australia protected it's children by preventing A cup women from being shown nude and censoring those websites.

Apparently a 30 year old A cup woman in australia is pedo bait.

Censors ALWAYS overstep their bounds, take the inch given to them and then scramble down a whole mile.

I heard that you can be fined if you have hardcore, bdsm, and pr0n with ADULTS.

Morality police are amoral.

~FrienD~
April 07, 2010, 11:20 PM
oh i've heard of that one too, protect the female from the world that's how it goes, nuthing wrong with it. Maybe all males can be finally gay?

just recently there was a survey to change japan's student uniforms, bye bye skirts bye bye good memories(maybe girls will wear gakuran now too).

kanamechidori
April 08, 2010, 12:49 AM
I heard they'll wear the male uniform or a variation of it.

Trousers instead of skirts...

The apocalypse can't come soon enough :'-(

OunknownO
April 10, 2010, 05:02 AM
Everything should be free, if you don't like it, don't look/read it. For explicit material put a age limitation and that's it. Manga is imagination nothing else and no matter how disgusted you are with product of someone's imagination, who are you to judge it... What I mean the thing should stay like this.