Fairy Tail 179 Discussion/ 180 Predictions

[ghostexiled]

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[wooticus]

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/179-98/1 here we go.

the end is awesome, but i won't spoil you. i already can not wait for next weeks chapter..

[halfcrzy]

Ohhh had an fangasm. that was EPIC! i've been waiting for a build up like this to happen.
Also noticed that it seems just dragon slayers cant use magic. I at first wanted to account for this new developement due to mistgun, but as we have seen with Lucy that she was able to use magic on her own... So dragonslayers need a rarecandy to level up

[Raijatsu]

Code EDT!!! Thats so awesome and the ending page was epic :D :D
So we'll finally see a rebellion against shagotte, it is likely the exceed are at least partly responsible for the magic shortage of Edolas, plus the mystery while Wendy and Natsu cant use magic in Edolas deepens for me...

[Kravmaga]

So many things going on but the ending pretty much one-up'd all chapters up to now. I predict FT's strongest team resurrected in a chapter or two within a three way brawl edoras vs FT vs extalia! And the next chapter's title?!? The next chapter might very well go down in history as the most anticipated and overblown over-expectations of the decade. The coolmeter's indicating five hundred thousands megafonzies!
Mashima pulls this one off, he's in my hall of fame.

[Unlucky Boy]

So they really are starting a war with the Exceed. I think this is the first time I guessed right what's going to happen.

So, how do you think they got out of the crystal and how can they use magic?

[wooticus]

my guess: mystogan freed them
my question: where the others freed, too? mostly mira, makarov and gildartz!! where is gazille?!

[Sacto0562]

But alas, in typical shounen manga fashion, the fight will last through three chapters. :rolleyes:

[Skrymir]

^Unless one side choses to retreat.

[soulbane_zp]

Nice chapter. The king started a war against the queen, that's a nice development and it will make things more interesting. And cmn now, Erza and Grey? I want to see Erza vs Erza but wth are they doing here now? Mashima is pulling things out of his a**. They were supposed to be in the lacryma, they were inside the guild building when Anima absorbed it, he is just bringing people back at random with some lame excuses. The explanation of them being not in the lacryma better be good.

[ndulzky]

Maybe the Edolas FT members freed them? Or else how would they know that FT is the enemy of the soldiers?

Grey said "are they going to kill them, knowing they're from our guild?"

[soulbane_zp]

Maybe the Edolas FT members freed them? Or else how would they know that FT is the enemy of the soldiers?

Grey said "are they going to kill them, knowing they're from our guild?"

Nah, they need to know how to reverse the magic that made them into lacryma crystal, so no it's not Edolas FT. Erza and Grey weren't made into lacryma. It will probably be something like Mystogan showed up teleported us away and then here, and here we are now, which is lame. The cats were supposed to get the DS into Edolas with their wings, but Mystogan doesn't have any problems with getting people between Edolas and Earthland.

[wooticus]

mayber grey and erza were in the piece of lacryma that had been stored in the city and mystogan freed them

[daichi383]

Looks like we're gonna get some erza vs erza :jawdrop

[Mashiro_Luna]

My guess is either Mystogan freed them or the Queen got real po'd and released them. By releasing them from the lacrimia Edoras would be at a real disadvantge in the fight with the loss of all that magical energy which would help the Exceed. Not to mention all the chaos it will cause to have Fairy Tail running arround pissed.

[iamtenninja]

Nah, they need to know how to reverse the magic that made them into lacryma crystal, so no it's not Edolas FT. Erza and Grey weren't made into lacryma. It will probably be something like Mystogan showed up teleported us away and then here, and here we are now, which is lame. The cats were supposed to get the DS into Edolas with their wings, but Mystogan doesn't have any problems with getting people between Edolas and Earthland.

Lol Mystogan made it to the guild before Wendy did then
We don't know if Mystogan can reverse the Lachryma either so don't rule out Edoras FT just yet thought I do like the idea

[soulbane_zp]

mayber grey and erza were in the piece of lacryma that had been stored in the city and mystogan freed them

If that's the case than the others should be fine too since I doubt you can say who is who in that big crystal. But I think that's not the case, they somehow avoided the Anima, I have no idea how but they obviously did.


My guess is either Mystogan freed them or the Queen got real po'd and released them. By releasing them from the lacrimia Edoras would be at a real disadvantge in the fight with the loss of all that magical energy which would help the Exceed. Not to mention all the chaos it will cause to have Fairy Tail running arround pissed.

This makes sense, I can definitely see this happening. Maybe the Queen knew Faust was planning on going against her, so it would be logical move from her to cut their magical source and let them free the DS who are crucial part of Faust plans.

[iamtenninja]

This might only be a little thing but did anyone else notice (before me) the pot of staves on page 12 which has Wendy tied up to a rock? Oddly (or is it?) enough, they look like Mystogan's in a non-evil faced way.

Also, anyone else get the feel that those rocks with the Dragon image weren't just crafted recently but existed a long time ago?

[hongoasdf]

This makes sense, I can definitely see this happening. Maybe the Queen knew Faust was planning on going against her, so it would be logical move from her to cut their magical source and let them free the DS who are crucial part of Faust plans.

If so, Shagotte > Faust in every way. Faust's uprising failed a couple of minutes after it started. I actually like this theory even more that Mystogan showing up and saving everyone's sorry asses, even if he shows up with Gazille.

Also, if that's the case, I already like Shagotte, even if she's a "villain" and we haven't actually seen her.

[jacke12]

This makes sense, I can definitely see this happening. Maybe the Queen knew Faust was planning on going against her, so it would be logical move from her to cut their magical source and let them free the DS who are crucial part of Faust plans.
If she knew thats why she was sending exceeds to kill the dragon slayers because this way there wil not be a a source for Code ETD

[Gats]

How is it possible that Erza and Gray can use magic from their body now ?
It seems that only the Dragon Slayers have their magic's control gone, while human like Lucy, Gray and Erza still have it.

[monkey D luffy]

awesome erza v erza next chapter! woohoo

if gray and erza came from the back why didnt they release natsu and wendy? they came from the same place from what i understand

[Blanka]

I do not know if this has been mentioned, but I am not 99% positive that mystgun is from Edoras, he is the double of gerard (99% sure).
Why he came over is unclear, probably good intentions.

PROOF:
Page 12 (the one with wendy chained) has staffs in a vase that look identical to the staffs carried by mystgun. He uses staffs because he cannot store magical power internally. Further proof of his Edoras origin.

[kkck]

Grey and Erza being here must have something to do with mistgun. I doubt edoras FT would do such a thing. I find it interesting that erza and grey can use magic though. I can think of two reasons for Erza and Gerard to have their abilities. One is that what actually is keeping natsu's and wendy's magic sealed has to do with the cats. The other is that they can use their magic due to the way they passed anima. Anima probably sealed wendy's and natsu's power as they passed. I wonder if the extraction process wendy and natsu are going through will give them back their magic once released though. They must get their magic back somehow, otherwise I don't see how lucy and co are gonna escape a fight against the entire military of edoras.

[hirou]

Page 12 (the one with wendy chained) has staffs in a vase that look identical to the staffs carried by mystgun.

Damn, you were a bit more quick, I was going to post the same =)

At least, Mistgun was able to disappear without visible help from staffs, so maybe he awakened some powers in Earthland world

[hongoasdf]

Well, assuming it was the Queen (Or some other Exceed representative) who freed them, the Exceed may have bestowed some of their own magical power upon them and any other FT members who were freed from the Lachryma.

Or it could be that Wendy and Natsu are the only ones who can't use their magic due to being Dragonslayers, somehow...

[Mashiro_Luna]

I thought the only reason that Natsu and Wendy couldn't use their magic was because it was absorbed by the Anima http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/176-73/17 I thought that was what the cat was saying here. Erza and Gray could use their magic because they were absorbed with it but with Natsu and Wendy it only stole their magic but for some reason left them physically in Earthland.

[NNGirl]

Grey and Erza being here must have something to do with mistgun. I doubt edoras FT would do such a thing. I find it interesting that erza and grey can use magic though. I can think of two reasons for Erza and Gerard to have their abilities. One is that what actually is keeping natsu's and wendy's magic sealed has to do with the cats. The other is that they can use their magic due to the way they passed anima. Anima probably sealed wendy's and natsu's power as they passed. I wonder if the extraction process wendy and natsu are going through will give them back their magic once released though. They must get their magic back somehow, otherwise I don't see how lucy and co are gonna escape a fight against the entire military of edoras.

I think that Mistgun freed he, becuase It was suposed that this arc were going to be realeted more to him, but untl now he only appears 2 times on minor roles, ad it ill be really awesome if he all the time was behind scenes freeing the Earth fT and planing how to scpae form there.
[hr]

I thought the only reason that Natsu and Wendy couldn't use their magic was because it was absorbed by the Anima http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/176-73/17 I thought that was what the cat was saying here. Erza and Gray could use their magic because they were absorbed with it but with Natsu and Wendy it only stole their magic but for some reason left them physically in Earthland.

i think that it's because they were carried to edoras by the cats, and a sideeffect of that is that they wont be able to use magic propely (the king want to capture them, so it's probably that they don't want them use magic to defed themselves

[LoS]

Is anyone else just as bored with this plot as I am? I mean seriously, no one gives a crap about either side, Exceed or Humans. But, for some reason we keep getting this religious, moral struggle shoved down our throats and we are expected to allow the Earthland Fairy Tail members to actually care about the Humans and Exceed of Edoras. I hope that come the conclusion of this arc there isn't some friendship bigger picture type crap. If only the Earthland people could get in Edoras, free their people, get out and not give a crap about the inhabitants of Edoras that would be great. But instead I feel Mashima is building up some "we are here to teach you a lesson" mumbo jumbo.

Outside of the plot though, the arc has finally gotten interesting. Only because it looks like there is finally some progress.

[kkck]

I am not bored. In fact, I am loving every minute of it.

[LoS]

The arc still has far too many plot holes which could be answered at random by completely making something up on the spot. Mist Gun is a legitimate hax character right now. This man is a lexicon to Edoras, can help out Earthland Fairy Tail members at will; talk about over powered. But, of course Mashima will somehow have Mist Gun weakened in Edoras(if we ever see him) to stop this scenario from happening.

The question of why humans can't use magic, the shortage of magic. You could answer this right on the spot as well. Once we see the Exceed Queen I'm sure we will get our answer, but only when it is convenient. Expect foul play to be involved.

[Chaos Shadow]

I am not bored. In fact, I am loving every minute of it.

same heree im enjoying every chapter :amuse and this chaps last pages were full of pure win haha i was starting to miss gray hahaha

[Kravmaga]

The arc still has far too many plot holes which could be answered at random by completely making something up on the spot. Mist Gun is a legitimate hax character right now. This man is a lexicon to Edoras, can help out Earthland Fairy Tail members at will; talk about over powered. But, of course Mashima will somehow have Mist Gun weakened in Edoras(if we ever see him) to stop this scenario from happening.

The question of why humans can't use magic, the shortage of magic. You could answer this right on the spot as well. Once we see the Exceed Queen I'm sure we will get our answer, but only when it is convenient. Expect foul play to be involved.

Honestly, at this point I could care less about plot holes.
Which mangaka does not make shit up on the spot? Every shounen has people showing up conveniently to save the day, or powers being magically tailored to fit the bill... FT's actually more or less avoiding that.
This whole entire world was made up by the mangaka and as such he's got the intellectual property rights to do whatever tickles his fancy with it... Personally, I think it actually fits pretty well, so much I forgive Mashima for turning mistgun into gerard because what everyone thought would be some long lost brother cliche turned out to be quite well thought out and something nobody could have predicted.

And sure, it's getting obvious by now that the exceed have a hand in controlling the edoras humans' magic. I'm sure I'd fancy the answer to all of these questions but dangnabit! Erza is about to fight Erza!!! Who cares about anything else?
How in the world can you people even be theorycrafting about this stuff when we're on the brink of witnessing an unstoppable force clashing with an immovable object?!?
Brain! Turn off! Now! =P

Also, ten bucks on Evil Erza for round 1 followed by swift comeback and TKO round 3!

[LoS]

I forgive Mashima for turning mistgun into gerard because what everyone thought would be some long lost brother cliche turned out to be quite well thought out and something nobody could have predicted.

This is so far the only thing that is a positive relating to Earthland/Main plot. Of course there is much more left to be revealed. I just hope that Mist Gun has nothing to do with this current arc, I really do not want him to show up. Like I said before, if he does show up his capabilities are just wayyyy too much. He could single handedly change the balance.

[sarutobi_sensei]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

EPIC LAST PAGE!!!!!!

ZOMG I'm so freaking excited!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was just plain epic. The king really wants to take on the exceed and now we've got Erza and Gray!!!! BUT HOW??????? How did they get away? I can't wait to hear an explanation!!!!!

[street_san]

plot holes plot holes....guys, can't you wait until the end of the arc to say if Mashima created to many plot holes.

Each week we're learning something new. Exceed, Edolas humans, Dragon Slayers, man this arc have been enjoyable from the start....and it's only starting.

Who give a shit to know how Gray and Erza went back to their normal selves "for now". What we need to think first is if the'll be able to use perfectly their magic: that's all. Do you really think Mashima will leave this matter unanswered. Of course we'll know how they got out of this.

Man, this chapter was AWESOME. Natsu is SOOO GOING TO KICK SOME ASS when he'll be release. Can't wait xD

[hongoasdf]

I'm actually more worried about that Byro creep tentacle-raping Wendy than about Erza or Gray's magic :'(

Also, I hadn't noticed up to now, but Gray's got a scar on his abdomen from when Leon stabbed him. And that scar on his forehead... but I never really got when exactly that happened. I'm sure it was at some point during the Galuna Island arc, too, but I don't recall the sitution on it's entirety.

So yeah, ending was epic. I kinda missed the main group.

[iamtenninja]

No Not Tentacle Rape! Not Yet!
Anyways, Gray indeed did get that Scar after the events of the Galuna Arc tho I don't remember the actual injury itself.
Dunno, this should be setting up to have the whole Guild take down both the Kingdom and Exceed. Would be better than having just the main group (plus Mystogan somewhere whenever he decides to show up) take down everyone.

[ghostexiled]

This has gotten really awesome! I am glad to see that there will be a massive war between the humans and the cats! We will be able to see what the cats are made of, and not just see them fly.

I totally called an Erza vs. Erza match. This I am excited to see! :)

I am also hoping that Earth FT gets a chance to meet Edo FT... just to see how they react to their respective counter-parts! Gray meeting his heavily clothed and p**sy whipped ass, will be hilarious! :grin

[Skrymir]

I feel sad for Lucy, her moment as the strongest of Fairy Tail was so short.

[Poops]

Oh damn!!! That last page totally caught me off-guard!! ERZA! I'm beyond excited for the next chapter now! I'm sure everything's going to become clear by the next 2 chapters; Mashima's usually quite good at filling info and clearing things up :D. I'm really looking forward to E-Erza vs. Erza. Since magic seems to be limited in Edo, I wonder how much of a fight it's really going to be. For now I'm guessing that Gray, Lucy, and the cats are going after Wendy and Natsu while Erza holds the army off.



I am also hoping that Earth FT gets a chance to meet Edo FT... just to see how they react to their respective counter-parts! Gray meeting his heavily clothed and p**sy whipped ass, will be hilarious! :grin

I have a feeling that the last chapter of this arc will be FT meet FT with a huge feast, :D, damn so excited.

[mr.danly]

ERZA V ERZA!!!!!!!!!!!! I might wet myself. But I'm not exactly sure how Erza and Gray are going to fight, since aren't they all running on limited magic?

[MechR]

Well, Gray just froze a bunch of guys there, apparently under his own power :blink Natsu and Wendy were instantly powerless when they arrived in Edoras, so if Gray were going to run out, it would've happened already. Maybe people are right in saying only Dragon Slayers get depowered when visiting Edoras.

And I wouldn't worry about Erza even if her magic ran out. She just needs a weapon, any weapon, and there are plenty for the looting.

[ghostexiled]

Well Lucy was able to use her magic and she was brought to Edo by Mystogun, so if Erza and Gray were released or brought there by him as well... then it is possible that he was able to release or allow them to not be affected by the transfer.

[halfcrzy]

Yea it definatly seems only dragonslayers are unable to use magic. Also haha i would kill to see the end of this arc where gray meets himself. Also juvia would go nuts for earthland gray as well. He could have two gf. Its not illegal! there identical!

[SerpentTailedAngel]

I'm actually more worried about that Byro creep tentacle-raping Wendy than about Erza or Gray's magic :'(

Also, I hadn't noticed up to now, but Gray's got a scar on his abdomen from when Leon stabbed him. And that scar on his forehead... but I never really got when exactly that happened. I'm sure it was at some point during the Galuna Island arc, too, but I don't recall the sitution on it's entirety.

So yeah, ending was epic. I kinda missed the main group.

(The first scar was while fighting Lyon on top of that hill where they first discovered he was involved with Deliora)

I missed striper Gray and nice Erza too. I'm for the theory that the exceed queen released them when the king started his rebelion. Also, did anyone notice Lily's reaction. He probably is related to the exceed after all.

Wendy's scream is going to give me nightmares. She's twelve, right? Shudder

[wooticus]

some of you mentioned it already.. i also see a problem in it. it is just too... odd... that especially gray and erza were freed if there isn't anybody else with them. i mean, did whoever freed them know that with freeing erza and gray the story could get the most tension? if instead some lowies were freed, they would not have a chance against such an army, too. and on the other side.. if they freed people like gildartz or makarov.. i mean he could just do fairy law and.. bam.

[LoS]

if they freed people like gildartz or makarov.. i mean he could just do fairy law and.. bam.

until we saw Erza&Grey use their magic we all assumed no Earthland mages could(minus stellar spirit users of course). If that was the case then Makarov and Gildartz would be horrible choices to free. One is a decrepit old man, the other is a gimpy one armed and one legged man. Both wouldn't be suited to this more physical less magic world. But that is all moot now, Grey and Erza are to spice up the story line and make it more tense.

[AnDr]

my theory is that the queen made edoras think that their magic is limited to control them but in reality they can all use magic.
Like Happy and Charle.

Also the time when edoLucy left Natsu and Wendy didnt she use magic to contact edoFT.tho she could have just used lacryma

[Lee-tyme7]

LOL, who would expect Erza & Grey to show up? Total surprise and I've notice Grey didn't use magic but punch the wall if that's what it was? I don't know if they can use magic yet?

[zephyrXwind]

If that's the case than the others should be fine too since I doubt you can say who is who in that big crystal. But I think that's not the case, they somehow avoided the Anima, I have no idea how but they obviously did.



This makes sense, I can definitely see this happening. Maybe the Queen knew Faust was planning on going against her, so it would be logical move from her to cut their magical source and let them free the DS who are crucial part of Faust plans.

I doubt it... If so, why did Shagotte order Faust to execute Lucy???

[Poops]

LOL, who would expect Erza & Grey to show up? Total surprise and I've notice Grey didn't use magic but punch the wall if that's what it was? I don't know if they can use magic yet?

Ah, we already know for sure now. Mashima wanted to make clear that the two were able to use magic for suspense building + damn cliff hanger :darn for the next chapter and even added extra things to make it more obvious.

In the last 2 pages, you can see the magic around Gray's arm, tinkling of ice, and even ice itself on page 18, mid section, mid left. Of course there's really no way to prove that Erza's using magic, but we can assume so if Gray is :D.

[Unlucky Boy]

I dont think Shaggote restored Erza and Gray, I dont think she even knows yet what's going on. Moreover, the cats said themselves that the Anima and crystalization of magic is something they dont know how to do and it's the work of the humans.

It's either Edo-FT or most probably Mistgun, since he knows FT members and he knows who is most improtant to free first.

And I'm not sure this has any meaning but did you notice what's in the urn beside Wendy here? http://www.mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/179-98/12
5 staves...the visible ones looks like Mistgun's

[urlaub]

Heck, where did those two pop up? I thought thwy were inside the lachryma and frozen or something.

[Ero-Sanji]

Sooo, how come Gray can use magic without a medium?

[soulbane_zp]

If Mystogan has something to do with Erza and Grey showing up, than they weren't absorbed in the lacryma in the first place. Why? There is no way that he freed only them from the crystal, how the hell can you tell who is who in that massive crystal? If they were freed from the crystal, than the whole crystal was reversed back, and the people are back to their original selves. And the crystal should be heavily guarded. Anyhow the explanation better be good.

And it seems to me from the chamber where they got Wendy and Natsu the Edolas people know a lot about Dragonslayers, so by the end of this arc we will know more too. Those stones with dragon carvings looks pretty ancient.


I doubt it... If so, why did Shagotte order Faust to execute Lucy???

And why not? She wants the DS dead too, we know that Faust wants to extract their magic so they can build a magic source of their own and use it against the queen (this is why she sends the cats to kill the DS's so she can control the humans), and after learning that Faust is planning on extracting their magic she has to do something if she wants to stop that from happening. And the cats that were chasing the 'fallen' were all turned into a lacryma so sending more cats doesn't work, so it's possible that this is her doing.

Now we will have Nasu and co in the middle of the war between the Exceed and the humans, add Edolas FT to the mix and let chaos begin :tem.

[Evil3ye]

Wow, the cliffhanger's awesome. Ezra vs Erza... best thing could ever happen to this manga :D

No, seriously. I didn't see it coming and it already sounds like an epic fight to me. Can't wait for next week can't wait for next week :gigglebunny

[urlaub]

Either they are Lucys gemini acting on their own, edo-fairy tails some magic, the real ones.

So out of these the second one seems logical.

[Evil3ye]

I also go with the second. The logic is that edo-Erza and edo-Grey are evil so that the earthland's versions gotta fight their own self and prove them wrong-something lol.

As for the Gemini theory; I'm actually not sure if Gemini can turn himself into two different persons at the same time. Guess it's a no so.

[Skrymir]

Wendy's scream is going to give me nightmares. She's twelve, right? Shudder

Actually, I wouldn't doubt her being over 80 years old...

[monkey D luffy]

ive got a good explanation for you. remember back when the king showed off a lachryma part? it wasnt the whole thing just a little piece right? maybe someone within the castle who defies faust freed them. i mean we could assume that it was erza and gray in that mini lachryma.

[cluster]

ive got a good explanation for you. remember back when the king showed off a lachryma part? it wasnt the whole thing just a little piece right? maybe someone within the castle who defies faust freed them. i mean we could assume that it was erza and gray in that mini lachryma.

Thinking of lily?

btw i don't see why ur all so suprised about erza&grey using magic did'nt they explain that last chapter http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/178/02/

[SerpentTailedAngel]

I also go with the second. The logic is that edo-Erza and edo-Grey are evil so that the earthland's versions gotta fight their own self and prove them wrong-something lol.

As for the Gemini theory; I'm actually not sure if Gemini can turn himself into two different persons at the same time. Guess it's a no so.

Gemi and Mini can probably become two people at once. It makes sense since there are two of them. Plus, there's this line (http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/175-68/7). Though they might be saying they can become on person, than turn into anotherm then turn back into the first person later on.

[kuroSaki_Ichi]

I doubt its Geimini...they dont speak like that do they..

[Unlucky Boy]

Gemini never copied Erza as far as I can remember so it cant be them. I think they currently can turn into Gray and Lucy.

[iamtenninja]

I could have sworn Gemini's ability was detailed upon on one of the front pages. I seem to recall it taking both of them to recreate a body with each one establishing a mind and the other the magic or something like that. I don't think they can transform into two separate people because of this.

Of course take this with a grain of salt, I succumbed to sickness over the weekend and can't focus very well

[Baka_Sousui]

I doubt its Geimini...they dont speak like that do they..


Gemini is able to duplicate a person's looks, abilities and memories. I'm pretty sure personality and speech are right up there in what they are capable of.

I don't think they are Gemini neither, but i have nothing more than a hunch to go by. Cause personality is not something you can state as proof as they have demonstrated in the previous arc that it would be possible for them to duplicate that.

[kkck]

I just remembered a theory I wrote some chapters ago and might be a good explanation -other than mistgun- for erza's and grey's appearance. Erza uses another dimension to store her swords and weapons and summon them when she needs them. What if the reason she is here is that she stored herself and grey in it as soon as she noticed the anime. It is even possible she felt the anima distortion due to her dimension experience and power. She could also have reacted to what hologrium did when he rescued lucy. Anyways, the point is she stored herself in another dimension to escape anima and took grey with her. Later on mistgun sent the two of them to edoras as he did with lucy. I am still hoping for an elfman and mira appearance though, they might have escaped the anima on their way to the church or graveyard.

[Baka_Sousui]

Actually it seems before this all happened Makarov was well aware that something was going to happen. I thing some kind of plan was put in place before it all happened. Maybe Makarov back then was feeling more annoyed that they had to deal with it rather than the feeling of things coming to the end.
Just a thought. It'd give reason to why some members would be more prepared then others.

[senewe]

I'm sure that panther guy is a spy...

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/179-98/8
there is something wrong with charle...

[sarutobi_sensei]

I just remembered a theory I wrote some chapters ago and might be a good explanation -other than mistgun- for erza's and grey's appearance. Erza uses another dimension to store her swords and weapons and summon them when she needs them. What if the reason she is here is that she stored herself and grey in it as soon as she noticed the anime. It is even possible she felt the anima distortion due to her dimension experience and power. She could also have reacted to what hologrium did when he rescued lucy. Anyways, the point is she stored herself in another dimension to escape anima and took grey with her. Later on mistgun sent the two of them to edoras as he did with lucy. I am still hoping for an elfman and mira appearance though, they might have escaped the anima on their way to the church or graveyard.

nice theory, I can go with that.


I'm sure that panther guy is a spy...

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/179-98/8
there is something wrong with charle...
She's just being herself right now. She is saying that it's nothing to do with them and that it's best to save their friends, which is a logical thing to do in this kind of situation.

[FluffBall]

Thinking of lily?

btw i don't see why ur all so suprised about erza&grey using magic did'nt they explain that last chapter http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/178/02/
i don't get how that page explains it. all it says is that they have more magic than the eksheed unless its because its like charle and happy who couldn't get their wings out because of a heart thing so its like they overcame the heart problem and can now use their magic or something.

[cluster]

i don't get how that page explains it. all it says is that they have more magic than the eksheed unless its because its like charle and happy who couldn't get their wings out because of a heart thing so its like they overcame the heart problem and can now use their magic or something.

they also say that, The mages of earthland have magic in there bodys just like the eksheed.

i think wendy and natsu are a bit difrent tho, might be that on earth they usaly take magic in from the outside but im not sure tho.

[Raijin_Thethundergod]

they also say that, The mages of earthland have magic in there bodys just like the eksheed.

i think wendy and natsu are a bit difrent tho, might be that on earth they usaly take magic in from the outside but im not sure tho.

I see, that makes sense.

So the dragon-slayer takes magic from the environment, that explains why they can not use their magic, right?

If that's true, then what Natsu needs to do is eat some flame from edoras, you know, to fill his magic.

[ca12nag3]

Hmm still there is a problem, in this chapter you see they are extracting magic from Wendy already. So they do have it but arnt able to use it. (thats basicaly it)

[cluster]

Hmm still there is a problem, in this chapter you see they are extracting magic from Wendy already. So they do have it but arnt able to use it. (thats basicaly it)

what u say is true,it's also the reson why im not sure about it.
ofcorse it could be as other's have said a problem whit there hearts,the most likely reson would be charle saing.
If male cat and i betray u guys, kill us whitout hesitation.

i've been wondering about erza did'nt she store her weapon's at the girls dormatory and was'nt that along whit the rest of the town absorbed in to the anima?

edit* just reread that part looks like i was wrong,that was becose there was a limit to how many weapons she could fit in her magical space sry about that.

[kkck]

Did grey always had that chain on his neck? I guess that is kinda an easter egg from rave, it looks exactly like the rave haru carried.

[Unlucky Boy]

Yeah he always had it. Like Erza got that symbol on her armour that Elie always had on her shirt.

[p1xel]

Oh wow,i just finished reading all avaliable chapters:P
Seems nice,but that arc was moving slowly.But the last page of that chapter looks nice and i hope for better development now:P
And what`s with gazille?He was a real dragon killer,no?Why wasn`t he with them from the beginning?
Erza vs.Erza battle,wow?:D

[Zehahaha]

Oh wow,i just finished reading all avaliable chapters:P
Seems nice,but that arc was moving slowly.But the last page of that chapter looks nice and i hope for better development now:P
And what`s with gazille?He was a real dragon killer,no?Why wasn`t he with them from the beginning?
Erza vs.Erza battle,wow?:D

I just hope that Edo Erza will get her a** kicked by the real Erza, and that Natsu will use somehow his magic...
After this chapter, can't wait to see that Shagotte... I hope she won't turn to be some nice queen, and that she was in the obligation to kill DS for whatever reasons bla bla

[Qc_stryder]

I was kinda dissapointed when I saw gray and erza. dont get me wrong, I'm happy that they showed up, but I was kinda hoping that natsu would be the one that would blow up something with his fire and everybody would be scared shitless and in awe of a guy that can light himself on fire and also eat it.

I also cant help but get exited when I think of the reaction everybody will have when witnessing earthland magic-

ah! a whole bunch of swords came out of nowhere!

wha! where did all of this ice come from! what!? that guy made it appear without a lachryma!? and why the hell is he naked!? put some clothes on!

that guy just ate fire! he's a monster! plus he thanked us for the food!

wha! there's a perverted bull complementing captain erza's breasts! he's saying what all of us are really thinking!

(suppressing imagination) I'l just stop for now. but I do hope these things will be said:p

[Zeltrax]

Long time since I've posted at ft forums, or if I've ever gave a damn to the manga.
since it's just purely shounen, with most of the fights having the main character winning, there really ain't much for prediction, ft always pwns in the end.

Backtotopic.
I can finally say that this arc will be one of the weirdest in manga history.
I've gave this arc a try, din't make any complains bout it and finally after this chapter, I gave up.
I've gotta do rambling.
by introducing gray and erza into the story, it's basically the author telling us that there is really going to be two fairy tails fighting in this arc, be it together or against each other.
IMHO, isn't that weird? Fighting with yourself and together with yourself, that's so naruto like.
So, I'm trying to say that if somehow Hero Mashima pulls this off, and somehow make this even better than the past arcs, ft will be on a whole different level.
But think about it, what about the damn consequences, I mean, what will ft feel after going through another world of themselves, won't this mess up the storyline-oh wait, its another world, so it's like ANYTHING can take place there without caring about the storyline.

Whatever, damn author chose this step, my eyes gonna hurt from seeing so many twins. But still going to give this arc a chance, eyes ain't gonna hurt from giving a chance.

[ca12nag3]

Actualy the evil twin principle comes from star trek from the 1970s... i think its the first time anyone in fiction ever used it. (the mirror universe) So going on a rant saying its like Naruto makes no sense since every storyconcept/element has been used before. Untill a genius writer like another Shakespear comes along and invents something new.

The entire twin thing hasnt been used to much apart from Ed-Lucy&Ed-Erza. We only see Natsu briefly for the fun part were he gets sick outside vehicles.
So its to soon to say anything about the Twin-effect.

[kkck]

The characters from edoras and earthland have proven they are anything but opposites though. They are just different, people who live in different cultures. They don't necessarily have to be opposites -they can be though but not because they are all opposites-.

[kazille]

i don't know if someone asked this already. but it just came to me. how come mistgun can use magic if his from edoras?

[urlaub]

Where did you get the idea that mistgun is from edoras? Have I really missed something this important? Well being gerards duplicate, this revelation could really explain it.

[DoItDoItDoIt]

Where did you get the idea that mistgun is from edoras? Have I really missed something this important? Well being gerards duplicate, this revelation could really explain it.

its not confirmed. its just a theory...but a very plausible theory imo

[Gats]

its not confirmed. its just a theory...but a very plausible theory imo

Mistgun, the another Gerard who knows the existence and the purpose of Anima, who knows how to go to Edoras. Using staffs from Edoras (see the chapter when the dragonslayers are going to be drained). The opposite of the earthland Gerard.

It sounds like a confirmation.

[kkck]

How can there be a shred of a doubt that mistgun is from edoras? The guy mentioned "arriving to this world" and was familiar with anima as or before it started. If mistgun was not from edoras, the story would outright not make sense. He even uses magical objects to fight which means he fights like people in edoras. Only plausible way mistgun is not from edoras is that he and gerard were actually changed at birth lol.

[monkey D luffy]

chapter 180 will be uploaded later this day according to mangastream's tweets

[kkck]

Awesome, can't help but live those guys.

[roku-sky]

From experience they never seem to release on the day they tweet they would release. But they do release often on time if they never tweet about it. So I'm expecting FT tomorrow... But I'd love to be proven wrong :P

[ca12nag3]

Without getting to far off topic...were is today? i meen here its gmt+1 but the today the tweeter said could be anywhere on the planet.

[Sollum]

Without getting to far off topic...were is today? i meen here its gmt+1 but the today the tweeter said could be anywhere on the planet.

Dunno dude, but i am still waiting, its 1:17 at my place and i think my zone is gmt -2

[monkey D luffy]

as far as i know lithuania is at +2 not -2 which is somewhere on the atlantic ocean. but this is off topic.

i hope that this erze vs erza ends and not getting interupted in the middle but if earthland erza can indeed use magic edo-erza is done in 2 pages.

[Krono]

Without getting to far off topic...were is today? i meen here its gmt+1 but the today the tweeter said could be anywhere on the planet.

I think they're on USA Pacific time. So GMT-8.

[mjohner1]

180 RAW is up on rawparadise for download.