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OunknownO
April 01, 2010, 07:06 AM
I think this is how the things will go down....

Luffy is going to get back to Sabaody Archipelago, where he will train under rayglieh how to master haki and he will train unitl other mugiwaras come to Sabaody Archipelago and that time will be the time skip, and all mugiwaras gather.. they will go on coated sunny and go to fishman island where they will get the last mugiwara.

Sounds probable..... right?

PS. this arc was awesome

RichardMNixon
April 01, 2010, 11:34 AM
I'm fine with Luffy training (though others are vehemently against it) but I definitely don't want to see more than a one-page montage of training. Training arcs are abominable, OP's lack of them is one thing that makes it so much better than other shonen.

BlackHair
April 01, 2010, 11:49 AM
I rly want Oda to move on fast. Not saying he hasn't, I mean to finish a arc as this with so many character in such a short time says sth about his pace.

Anyway, I don't want trainings arcs, Luffy can learn anything on his own. He must have noticed WB and other character in this war to use haki, so he will pick it up somehow. Also about the SH-reunion arc/saga which should be the next, I rly hope it will be finished within a few chapters (max 10 chapters). I just want OP to move on fast, wanne see the mermaid island, NW, Elbaf etc. I rly wish from Oda to not waste any chapters in tranings arc and in reunion arcs (while reunion cant be avoided I guess).

Lord Rayleigh
April 01, 2010, 03:30 PM
After all these events, the only way to move fast is through an important timeskip. We all know time is needed for the SHs to gather, for FI to change and for BB to become a great pirate.
And the more I think about it, the more I feel we'll have a true timeskip, not only some weeks or some months, but years.

Marche
April 01, 2010, 03:55 PM
Anyways this is what I think will be happened in this new era considering "Navy side" (until the next war in the end of OP, where the WG will be crushed).
In the end I must say something about the decision of Shanks (that in which He say than He will do Ace’s and WB burial’s), and also the answer of Sengoku:

To notice than Sengoku says than He will take the guilt of this (the fact than the bodies will not exposed as trophies).
For this I believe (also on pressure of the Tenryuubitos, they will not tollerate the fact than Rufy has escaped) than Sengoku will be punished, He will be demoted to admiral or they will dismiss him (perhaps Sengoku will left the Navy). This is also worth for Garp (also him lascierà the harbor).
If it will be so will be promoted Akainu, and also the same Navy (not only the WG) it will become dark (this in sight of the next war).
If Sengoku will leave the Navy, perhaps also him will face the WG in the next war (because from this chapter we understand that he is not for the absolute justice, contrarily of what I believed).
I think than Dobberman will became the third admiral, because also him as Akainu is for "absolute justice".

chess4
April 01, 2010, 04:15 PM
remember only about a week or so has passed since the strawhats split up. im sure there will be a small skip. maybe next chapter we will see some of the strawhats, and what they are doing

OunknownO
April 02, 2010, 03:40 AM
I'm fine with Luffy training (though others are vehemently against it) but I definitely don't want to see more than a one-page montage of training. Training arcs are abominable, OP's lack of them is one thing that makes it so much better than other shonen.

no I didn't think there will be an training arc, but something similar with naturo(jump between naruto and shippuden)....

Gcat88
April 02, 2010, 06:30 PM
But i doubt the gap would be anywhere as long as Naruto was!!

Organizized
April 03, 2010, 09:38 PM
no I didn't think there will be an training arc, but something similar with naturo(jump between naruto and shippuden)....

Let's just hope if this happens, it doesn't carry on the trend of second part being much worse than the first.. both Dragonball and Naruto were better before their big timeskip.. come to think of it, it's pretty much a good marker for at which point I started losing interest in Naruto.. :p

It's very possible, though. Not just the fact that Oda has claimed this is Luffy's last adventure as a 17-year old, but it's not impossible that he'll pull a Dragonball on us. Damn Toriyama and his influence on Oda. :p

In the end, I don't think we will see a very long timeskip if it does happen. I mean, Oda has developed even the most minor characters and made them connect to each other, built up a universe like nothing else I've ever seen in fiction.. much of that build-up would go to waste if he just timeskipped for too long at this point.

Poneglyph420
April 04, 2010, 12:11 AM
Well when we think about how long all of the ALL the arcs up til now combine to it's still like 6 months (approx.)..
I'd doubt there'd be a timeskip longer than the rest of the plot up to now..
So while Luffy is dancing on death's door, it's not like it's anywhere new for him...
Even if this time it will be far more than a miracle if (when) he survives.....
However it will clearly take time for the dust to settle, but beyond that it's gotta be back to the SH by May IMO.

Maybe Ray-san will explain more about Haki but please no training arc....
But based on Oda's current record, i'm fairly confident it won't be a disappointment.

Fox666
April 04, 2010, 12:36 AM
Anyways this is what I think will be happened in this new era considering "Navy side" (until the next war in the end of OP, where the WG will be crushed).
In the end I must say something about the decision of Shanks (that in which He say than He will do Ace’s and WB burial’s), and also the answer of Sengoku:

To notice than Sengoku says than He will take the guilt of this (the fact than the bodies will not exposed as trophies).
For this I believe (also on pressure of the Tenryuubitos, they will not tollerate the fact than Rufy has escaped) than Sengoku will be punished, He will be demoted to admiral or they will dismiss him (perhaps Sengoku will left the Navy). This is also worth for Garp (also him lascierà the harbor).
If it will be so will be promoted Akainu, and also the same Navy (not only the WG) it will become dark (this in sight of the next war).
If Sengoku will leave the Navy, perhaps also him will face the WG in the next war (because from this chapter we understand that he is not for the absolute justice, contrarily of what I believed).
I think than Dobberman will became the third admiral, because also him as Akainu is for "absolute justice".I would expect Smoker to be promoted to Admiral... he is a Logia, and doesn't there, along with these 3 creatures was supposed to be a "White Dragon" or something of that kind?

Marche
April 04, 2010, 03:35 PM
I would expect Smoker to be promoted to Admiral... he is a Logia, and doesn't there, along with these 3 creatures was supposed to be a "White Dragon" or something of that kind?I don't think than Smoker will be promoted to Admiral, because the 3 admiral are all fine.

Poneglyph420
April 04, 2010, 04:54 PM
I would expect Smoker to be promoted to Admiral... he is a Logia, and doesn't there, along with these 3 creatures was supposed to be a "White Dragon" or something of that kind?

Well the three admirals names all come from characters in the Japanese folk tale "Momotaro". And the three complete the series of animals in that story, so I'd assume the same here.

IMO it's more likely that Smoker would be promoted to Vice Admiral.
And didn't a few VA get KO'd or killed in the war?? Ronse and Lecroix (Both Giants??) are the two that come to mind...

Yeah I'm hoping Smoker, Coby, Helmeppo and maybe Hina join up and hunt the SH down... Maybe even as a "SH hunting task force"....

Lord Rayleigh
April 04, 2010, 05:58 PM
IMO it's more likely that Smoker would be promoted to Vice Admiral.
And didn't a few VA get KO'd or killed in the war?? Ronse and Lecroix (Both Giants??) are the two that come to mind...
In the last chapter, Vice-Admiral Lacroix, who had been cut down by Oars, was rescued by two members (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/580-92/12) of the Giant Squad (http://www.volonte-d.com/perso/images/divisiongeante.jpg).

Vice-Admirals Ronse and John Giant were beaten by Whitebeard, Luffy punched the one who fights with a baseball bat. We have no information about what have happened to the Giant woman and the Giant whose arm is in fact a bazooka.
That means there were at least 2 giants and to the maximum 4 still able to fight when the war ended. And we must not forget that one of them is severy injured, with a hole above the stomach.

superman97
April 04, 2010, 06:48 PM
I rly want Oda to move on fast. Not saying he hasn't, I mean to finish a arc as this with so many character in such a short time says sth about his pace.

Anyway, I don't want trainings arcs, Luffy can learn anything on his own. He must have noticed WB and other character in this war to use haki, so he will pick it up somehow. Also about the SH-reunion arc/saga which should be the next, I rly hope it will be finished within a few chapters (max 10 chapters). I just want OP to move on fast, wanne see the mermaid island, NW, Elbaf etc. I rly wish from Oda to not waste any chapters in tranings arc and in reunion arcs (while reunion cant be avoided I guess).

I don't agree that Luffy will learn Haki on his own. We saw multiple times that he uses it subconciously and is too dumb to realize it. At the very least I think Rayleigh will give him advice and tell him Haki is something he has to master on his own.


Let's just hope if this happens, it doesn't carry on the trend of second part being much worse than the first.. both Dragonball and Naruto were better before their big timeskip.. come to think of it, it's pretty much a good marker for at which point I started losing interest in Naruto.. :p

It's very possible, though. Not just the fact that Oda has claimed this is Luffy's last adventure as a 17-year old, but it's not impossible that he'll pull a Dragonball on us. Damn Toriyama and his influence on Oda. :p

In the end, I don't think we will see a very long timeskip if it does happen. I mean, Oda has developed even the most minor characters and made them connect to each other, built up a universe like nothing else I've ever seen in fiction.. much of that build-up would go to waste if he just timeskipped for too long at this point.
Dragonball had multiple time skips so I don't know which one you are talking about. Timeskips were necessary for Dragonball because it was basically brand new stories every time not to tied into previous arcs. While Naruto has just gone downhill for being Sasuke and training obsessed.

While One Piece, a time skip actually makes sense since have a good sense of where the story is going and because it has been set up for a potential time skip for a long time now.

Poneglyph420
April 05, 2010, 12:52 AM
In the last chapter, Vice-Admiral Lacroix, who had been cut down by Oars, was rescued by two members (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/580-92/12) of the Giant Squad (http://www.volonte-d.com/perso/images/divisiongeante.jpg).

Vice-Admirals Ronse and John Giant were beaten by Whitebeard, Luffy punched the one who fights with a baseball bat. We have no information about what have happened to the Giant woman and the Giant whose arm is in fact a bazooka.
That means there were at least 2 giants and to the maximum 4 still able to fight when the war ended. And we must not forget that one of them is severy injured, with a hole above the stomach.

So WB did take out 2 VA then, but to which capacity we don't know.
But it's safe to assume they were Ko'd and taken out.
It's likely that at least one of them will end up being replaced. I'd personally like to see some shuffling in the Marines and WG.

And what the hell is up with Vegapunk and his division..

urlaub
April 05, 2010, 04:38 AM
So I have supported the faction that wants a quick SH reunion and off to fishman island, where Luffy awakes and saves his crew from the badass main villan of the arc. With some little or more serious changes this is the way I would be satisfied I think.

The other aspect, on the other hand, I am looking forward to is the reunion. Oda could make something special here I think. Remember how the SH pirates where first introduced. Some amazing memories of that. It could be repeated in some form or another. I just point out, this could be really amazing.

Saintz0r
April 05, 2010, 05:46 PM
I'm thinking that we'll have a small timeskip while Luffy recovers in SA. I mean, he overstretched himself too much this time, and more than once, it should take a while for him to recover. ( my guess is one or two months )
Meanwhile we might get a few chapters of the SH's coming to SA where they'll wait for Luffy to recover.
It's possible that Rayleigh or Hancock might tell Luffy that he has kings haki, but I don't think they'll try to teach him or train him :P

And I'm guessing the SH's will only go to fishman island when everyone is ready, they'd be entering the NW afterall, it'd be a shame if one of them was asleep/comatose and couldn't properly 'see' it

OunknownO
April 06, 2010, 08:25 AM
luffy will do the montage training XD

darkfiend
April 06, 2010, 08:50 AM
I'm thinking that we'll have a small timeskip while Luffy recovers in SA. I mean, he overstretched himself too much this time, and more than once, it should take a while for him to recover. ( my guess is one or two months )
Meanwhile we might get a few chapters of the SH's coming to SA where they'll wait for Luffy to recover.
It's possible that Rayleigh or Hancock might tell Luffy that he has kings haki, but I don't think they'll try to teach him or train him :P

And I'm guessing the SH's will only go to fishman island when everyone is ready, they'd be entering the NW afterall, it'd be a shame if one of them was asleep/comatose and couldn't properly 'see' it

I think this is most likely, not too long a time skip, but it being used to get the strawhats to Luffy

kangclaw
April 06, 2010, 10:53 AM
I don't think Luffy is waking any time soon. Certain things need to happen to him, which would not happen if he were awake. One example could be that Luffy gets kidnapped? This is just a guess, it could be something else.
Whether there will be an actual skip of time in the manga story, I am not sure.
I think that this particular period is Luffy's and each of his member's levelling up time.
I think Luffy will somehow go to Marijoa, because the Tenryuubito have a beef with him.
While at Marijoa he will meet Vegapunk and somehow learn more about DFs and abilities?
Hancock is somehow related to this arc and about slavery carried out by the Tenryuubito.