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destiny4ever
May 17, 2010, 08:23 PM
To the mods, I apologize in advance if creating this thread goes against the rules since there’s already a soccer thread; it’s just that it’s the World Cup so I thought it would be cool if it had its own thread. Please delete this tread if it breaks the rules.

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2010 FIFA World Cup

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The 2010 FIFA World Cup will be the 19th FIFA World Cup, the premier international football tournament. It is scheduled to take place between 11 June and 11 July 2010 in South Africa. The 2010 FIFA World Cup will be the culmination of a qualification process that began in August 2007 and involved 204 of the 208 FIFA national teams.




List of qualified teams

The following 32 teams qualified for the final tournament.

AFC (4)
• Australia
• Japan
• Korea DPR
• Korea Republic

CAF (6)
• Algeria
• Cameroon
• Côte d'Ivoire
• Ghana
• Nigeria
• South Africa (hosts)

CONCACAF (3)
• Honduras
• Mexico
• United States

CONMEBOL (5)
• Argentina
• Brazil
• Chile
• Paraguay
• Uruguay

OFC (1)
• New Zealand

UEFA (13)
• Denmark
• England
• France
• Germany
• Greece
• Italy
• Netherlands
• Portugal
• Serbia
• Slovakia
• Slovenia
• Spain
• Switzerland





Thanks to Jin (~Buggy*Fly~) for the info!

Group A

South Africa
Mexico
Uruguay
France

Group B

Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Greece

Group C

England
United States
Algeria
Slovenia

Group D

Germany
Australia
Serbia
Ghana

Group E

Netherlands
Denmark
Japan
Cameroon

Group F

Italy
Paraguay
New Zealand
Slovakia

Group G

Brazil
North Korea
Ivory Coast
Portugal

Group H

Spain
Switzerland
Honduras
Chile


It seemed so far away four years ago but finally the Cup is just around the corner...

As a soccer fan, I’m really looking forward to the World Cup.http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m208.gif (http://www.laymark.com) It’s always so fun and exciting to watch the best of the best playing and working hard to win the coveted title of World Champion. So here’s a thread to discuss everything regarding the 2010 FIFA World Cup.:)

Let’s start the topic with this question:

What team or teams are you going to be rooting for?

I’m going to be rooting for Brazilhttp://www.laymark.com/i/c/c23.gif (http://www.laymark.com), as I always do in every World Cup. I really want them to win this time.

Other teams I will be rooting for but not as much as for Brazil are Italy and Spain.

But what about you guys? Which ones are your teams?

Bugzee
May 18, 2010, 12:01 PM
Please don't merge this thread, Blai/Charlie-San. :(
This WC is very special and it deserves it's own thread dammit. :shakefist


Hey Destiny!

It would be cool if you could edit your post and add this information:


Group A

South Africa
Mexico
Uruguay
France

Group B

Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Greece

Group C

England
United States
Algeria
Slovenia

Group D

Germany
Australia
Serbia
Ghana

Group E

Netherlands
Denmark
Japan
Cameroon

Group F

Italy
Paraguay
New Zealand
Slovakia

Group G

Brazil
North Korea
Ivory Coast
Portugal

Group H

Spain
Switzerland
Honduras
Chile

It's better to have the group tables in your post rather than dividing the nations up by their regions. :)


I can't wait to see the Group G matches. :XD
North Korea are going to go home very early imo.

Imperium
May 18, 2010, 01:28 PM
I dont think it will be merged, there was a separate one for the euro's. =/
Anyway I'll be supporting England. Anything past the QF's is an achievement as far as im concerned.

My pick for favourites is Spain then Brazil. Everyone else has major issues that need sorting out before the tournament begins.

Ustegius
May 20, 2010, 03:03 PM
I'm really looking forwards the cup too. My bets (and hopes) are on Spain, and after them Brazil and Netherlands. Ivory Coast might be a wild card, at least Drogba has a high chance of being the goal king, though the team is in a tight spot with Brazil and Portugal in the same group.

Argentina is strong too, but I think the biggest obstacle between them and the championship is Maradona. He ain't really a impressive coach.

goldb
May 22, 2010, 02:19 AM
I'm really hoping England can do something big in this year's tournament, if not then I'd like to see Spain win it. You can bet Germany will be there or thereabouts the latter stages, they are true specialists.

One Eyed Sharingan
May 22, 2010, 04:18 PM
as always, I'm rooting for Deutschland!!!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/Touma_Sou/Deutscher/Arc.jpg
even Arc agrees!!!

DLord.Van.Buuren
May 22, 2010, 04:22 PM
im betting on brazil this year for the win .

Pirulito
May 27, 2010, 07:57 PM
We don't have such stars like in 2006 (It's unbelievable we lost back then), but this year WC is ours.
Don't let me cry again, Brazil! Bring me the sixth star!

But I admit, I'm afraid of Holland and Spain.

Bugzee
May 28, 2010, 04:01 PM
Ok here are some of my random thoughts/bets for this coming WC...
I say at some point in the tournament:

England will face Argetina .
Brazil will face Italy.
Robben will be carried off of the field with a broken leg.
Terry will get booed and Beckham will start crying....

DanielKnoT
May 28, 2010, 04:29 PM
Am following for these teams..

- Portugal -> Cristiano Ronaldo
- Argentina -> Messi
- Spain -> Euro Champioms..

Too bad for Ronaldinho, Francesco Totti, Michael Ballack, will not be in the world cup.... :(

Ustegius
May 29, 2010, 09:30 AM
Hmm, should we start Mangahelpers FIFA Fantasy Football league?

Saintz0r
May 29, 2010, 09:45 AM
It's obvious Brasil'll win, reason:
94-Champions
98-Lost to France
02-Champions
06-Lost to France
:XD The only bad thing about this pattern is that it means we won't win the cup at home :p

But seriously, if I had to bet money it'd be on Netherlands or England

Koen
May 29, 2010, 12:35 PM
Come on what's with the Brasil fixation... I think the European teams are very strong this year.

Favourite: Spain (sorry Brasil but Spain has the best team of the world and brings the best football of the world since years now)

Brasil, Italy, Netherlands and Germany will do pretty good too because they have always been good tournament players

I consider England as the biggest outsider. Pretty solid team with a very good coach who knows what realistic football play means

Imperium
May 30, 2010, 08:16 AM
Brasil, Italy, Netherlands and Germany will do pretty good too because they have always been good tournament players

I consider England as the biggest outsider. Pretty solid team with a very good coach who knows what realistic football play meansI wouldn't put Holland as a tournament team. There is always something that derails their chances. But i agree about the others, even when they are bad they go far. Which is especially true of Germany. Even now, individually they are not good, in fact i would say that they only one of their players can be considered world class. So you can expect them to win the damn thing. :darn

Ustegius
May 30, 2010, 09:05 AM
If you guys are interested, I created a MH-league to McDonadl's FIFA World Cup Fantasy (http://en.mcdonalds.fantasy.fifa.com/M/home.mc). It's game where you create your fantasy team of all the World Cup players, and each round you get points depending on how well your players did in the actual matches. You need to crate an account to play. You can start choosing players starting from 4th.

After you have the account go to "My leagues" and the code of the league. Here is the code for Mangahelpers league; 288477-71304.

kkck
May 30, 2010, 01:38 PM
Ah, finally the greatest sport event in the world is about to start.... Can't wait, I honestly have been counting the seconds since the germany cup ended lol....

Personally, I want italy to win although I do feel there are a couple other teams who have an honestly better shot. IMHO brazil will be reasonably dangerous. Argentina should be a decent contestant this year but as long as they have maradona as a coach they won't have it in them to even be a 0 to the left. Argentina simply won't work, its that simple.

eni
May 31, 2010, 05:02 AM
@destiny, no worries. I'd created such a thread myself soon anyways. We had it stickied 2006 and 2008 too.

Germany is already down several players, including our captain, due to training injuries. Just yesterday another one was injured. So I wouldn't bet on a top score but I expect the quarter finals nonetheless.

blai
May 31, 2010, 05:58 AM
I thought I was active here, planned to make a thread like this, and there's already one.... with two pages of post.... *doh

Anyway, to put it short, I'd top seed Netherlands, Spain, Brazil and Portugal for their insane offense.

I'd put Germany here but since they have, as eni said, a lot of injured players, I doubt they'll reach the top four. But, it will be a really interesting tourney from that PoV too because now we'll see some new players and hopefully they've put together a young hungry team who dares to play "entertainin" soccer. Like some of the Icehockey teams (Swe, Can, Swi) in the WC some weeks ago.

I'd put Argentina here too but since Maradona is a r*tard and doesn't know how to put together a team, nor how to coach it, I'm afraid it'll be a fiasco.

Where's the defence? Oh, he didn't "like" their best national defenders, so yeah, put in some volatile defenders and hope for the best ;pPpPppPPPp

....

Gawd, someone please give him the foot after the WC, Argentina is WAY too good for him...

Ooh, and Nigeria for sure, go go svennis go \o/... no?.. :oh

Akainu
May 31, 2010, 06:19 AM
Since this is the first worldcup to be held in Africa, I highly expect at least one of the african teams to shine. South Africa themselves as hosts might be carried along, but I wouldn't bet on it. Algeria is next on my list, but they hardly have a chance, just like Ghana (they are up against Germany ;P and one of their players injured 'our' captain *rages*).
Cameroon, Nigeria and Côte d'Ivoire are the ones I hope to enter round of 16 / quarter finals =3 (aside from the usual european teams <.<;)

Also don't forget to get you Vuvuzela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela) in time, it needs some practising before you can do it

pandaaqueen
May 31, 2010, 06:29 AM
If I had to bet, I'd say that the Netherlands, Italy, Brazil or Spain have got what it takes to win the World Cup. Even though it would be certainly wicked, I doubt that Germany will come very far; too many good players are injured. I'm not talking about Ballack, though. Imo, he's a bit overrated.


Since this is the first worldcup to be held in Africa, I highly expect at least one of the african teams to shine.

That could very well happen, yes.

DanielKnoT
May 31, 2010, 08:06 AM
IF Maradona coach Argentina like he should, they should be in the Final with Spain..

These teams are the most balanced in Offense and Deffense.. And Argentina of course have Messi... This world cup should be for him to shows why is he considered the best player right now..!

He already did in the Euro Champions, Spain League, Copa del Rey, etc, etc..

predsfan
May 31, 2010, 05:55 PM
Let's go U.S.A. :yelling !!!!! Though we haven't looked too good as of late. One last friendly against Australia and then England. I'll be looking forward to it. If we don't make it out of group play I'll be pissed and anything past round of 16 is gravy.

Since I know the U.S. isn't going to win :darn, I'll also be going for England (minus the first game ;)) and Italy (in that order).

Koen
June 01, 2010, 04:51 AM
And Argentina of course have Messi...

and Higuain I am definitely not a Real supporter but the total amount of goals these two have made in the Spanish competition is amazing.

DanielKnoT
June 01, 2010, 03:43 PM
Yeah, I forgot about him.. Too bad that Riquelme is not in the team... Damn Maradona!!

blai
June 01, 2010, 06:05 PM
Damn Maradona!!

Damn Argentina's national football board or whatever it is that decides the captain.

Anyway, friendly games coming up soon :3 Going to be interesting to see how the teams perform...

WhatWhatinthebutt
June 01, 2010, 06:37 PM
Ooh, and Nigeria for sure, go go svennis go \o/... no?.. :oh

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! and the USA gameplay makes me question the veracity of the selections made for the World Cup...

Pirulito
June 01, 2010, 07:34 PM
If you guys are interested, I created a MH-league to McDonadl's FIFA World Cup Fantasy (http://en.mcdonalds.fantasy.fifa.com/M/home.mc). It's game where you create your fantasy team of all the World Cup players, and each round you get points depending on how well your players did in the actual matches. You need to crate an account to play. You can start choosing players starting from 4th.

After you have the account go to "My leagues" and the code of the league. Here is the code for Mangahelpers league; 288477-71304.


Let's try.
I'll sign up.


Since this is the first worldcup to be held in Africa, I highly expect at least one of the african teams to shine.


I have full expectations for Ivoire.
I really like its squad.



IF Maradona coach Argentina like he should, they should be in the Final with Spain..

These teams are the most balanced in Offense and Deffense.. And Argentina of course have Messi... This world cup should be for him to shows why is he considered the best player right now..!

He already did in the Euro Champions, Spain League, Copa del Rey, etc, etc..


I don't see that balance in offense and deffense in Argentina squad.
Even here, in Brazil, it's a common sense that current Argentina's defense is very, very awful.
But it's Argentina, I know we shouldn't underestimate my beloved rival.

goldb
June 02, 2010, 04:13 AM
If any african team are to shine, then my money would be on Ivory Coast; they have the best group of individual players it's now just a matter of whether or not Sven can get them to gel together in time for the tornament.

I can't believe Walcott was left out the England team to SA!!! damn you Capello! but I think he has his reasons and as long as it pays off, I won't hold a grudge.

blai
June 02, 2010, 04:41 AM
I highly doubt that Sven can do anything out of the ordinary with that team, not enough time and his play style is way different from Ivory Coast's, but we'll never know, he's surprised me before, might do it again.

Also, South Africa will be a country worth counting while on the subject of African teams, I saw their team play feb last year when I was in RSA and even though it was over a year ago, they looked as well put together as they could and given another year on that I'd say they will be rather dangerous to underestimate because if they don't have the skill, they sure have the teamwork, interplay and morale.

Oh, and to emphasize on what Pirulitokun wrote - Indeed, Argentina's defence is in no way on par with their offence and they will be a very fragile team and I doubt their changeovers are brilliant either from att to def.

Argentina COULD have a really good defence, but somehow, their top players aren't in the squad... :eyeroll

Imperium
June 05, 2010, 10:56 AM
The best laid plans of mice and men...Robben injured, Drogba injured, Ferdinand injured, Obi Mikel injured, Pirlo injured. And that too Ballack, Essien and the other players who are already out. Its a real shame for such quality players to be out. I also noticed the majority i named are chelsea players. :notrust


Argentina COULD have a really good defence, but somehow, their top players aren't in the squad... :eyerollI think his biggest omission is Banega as a backup for Veron. If the old man gets injured, Banega would have been a perfect replacement especially at the back of an amazing season.

cua_raitei
June 05, 2010, 02:32 PM
too bad so many big players got injured in the days leading up to the WC.

italy is in my first place, they must defend their title, and then netherland in 2nd

Bugzee
June 05, 2010, 05:28 PM
So many key international players are getting injured a week before the WC tournament officially gets underway. I feel sorry for Rio. I want to know what REALLY went down between Rio & Hesky. :D

I'm kinda happy to see a new face in Dawson getting a shot now though. Although, he hasn't impressed me much at club-level, I sure hope he shines for England in the up and coming group matches. ^^

So what do you guys think of the 2010 WC Stadiums? Which ones do you like the look of?

Stadium Link 1 (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/destination/stadiums/index.html)
Stadium Link 2 (http://www.stadiumguide.com/wc2010.htm)

Some of them look impressive but I can't see them being used much AFTER the WC. XD

Group A - 1st set of fixtures will take place next friday. So what do you guys think will be the final scores for the first two games of the 2010 WC? :amuse

1) South Africa Vs. Mexico
2) Uruguay Vs. France

blai
June 05, 2010, 05:35 PM
1) 2-2
2) 0-2

Already finished my bracket for the group intervals ^,^

goldb
June 06, 2010, 04:19 AM
A lot of players are getting injured right before the tournament; it's not a good look.
I'm gonna get working on my predictions and post up asap!

Ustegius
June 06, 2010, 08:51 AM
My bet on the opening games;
2-1
0-1

I'd think it would nice for the home team to win the opening. And I don't have much expectations for France this year, Uruguay might even win. And of course I calculated this based on my choices on the Fantasy Football game. ;)

(Anyone considering joining MH-league on the game? There is still time, but there is still no-one joined, so I just might delete it.)

kkck
June 07, 2010, 01:14 AM
IF Maradona coach Argentina like he should, they should be in the Final with Spain..

These teams are the most balanced in Offense and Deffense.. And Argentina of course have Messi... This world cup should be for him to shows why is he considered the best player right now..!

He already did in the Euro Champions, Spain League, Copa del Rey, etc, etc..

Maradona coaching like he should.... Sounds awkward lol, it sounds as if he is being a poor coach for outside reasons rather than an overall inability to do so. Honestly, ANY other coach on earth could do better than maradona.... Seriously, maradona is a fiasco of such a humongous magnitude as a coach that they lost 6 - 0 against bolivia, a team who does not even cut it to be among the mediocre teams in South America -I don't have anything against bolivia, it'd just that the team does suck....-. Maradona has coached before the world cup and as far as I know he was awful, poor at giving directions and an overall disaster as an strategist. It's a real shame one of the only 2 teams in South America that has an honest shot at winning the cup has to put up with this solely due to ego...


On another note, I must say I am appalled at something a few apparent football fans here do. WTH is that about calling this beautiful sport SOCCER? The name of the sport is FOOTBALL, for the love of it do not insult it by calling it soccer.

DanielKnoT
June 07, 2010, 10:02 AM
Yeap.. Totally agree, but what can we do? Maradona is like a GOD there in Argentina.. But they have a chance is if he doesnt fu** up.

What a bad news this weekend for Ferdinand, Drogba, and Robben.. 3 more that goes to the list of injured that will miss the cup..

goldb
June 07, 2010, 11:07 AM
It's really sad, especially since this may be the last chance Drogba and Ferdinand get to represent their country in a World Cup; their both pushing 31-32.

Bugzee
June 07, 2010, 12:55 PM
I say at some point in the tournament:

England will face Argetina .
Brazil will face Italy.
Robben will be carried off of the field with a broken leg.
Terry will get booed and Beckham will start crying....

I'm sorry Robben. I didn't mean it. :scry

kkck
June 07, 2010, 04:02 PM
Yeap.. Totally agree, but what can we do? Maradona is like a GOD there in Argentina.. But they have a chance is if he doesnt fu** up.

What a bad news this weekend for Ferdinand, Drogba, and Robben.. 3 more that goes to the list of injured that will miss the cup..

Like a God? His religion is called maradonismo.... Seriously, look it up (I am almost sure it is merely a glorified fan group but they do call themselves a religion). Wonder what the odds are of maradone doing at least a mediocre job as a coach.... Gotta keep an eye for hell freezing over, war stopping in the middle east and flying cattle.... (who knows, it might happen lol)

PS: To all football fans, please stop calling the sport "soccer" (yes, I am going to keep at it, it´s just THAT appalling)

Pirulito
June 07, 2010, 08:03 PM
Like a God? His religion is called maradonismo.... Seriously, look it up (I am almost sure it is merely a glorified fan group but they do call themselves a religion). Wonder what the odds are of maradone doing at least a mediocre job as a coach.... Gotta keep an eye for hell freezing over, war stopping in the middle east and flying cattle.... (who knows, it might happen lol)

PS: To all football fans, please stop calling the sport "soccer" (yes, I am going to keep at it, it´s just THAT appalling)


I'm sure DanielKnoT didn't say God in reference to maradonismo or Maradoniana Church. Am I wrong, Daniel? (By the way, more than 25 thousand people are maradoniano and, among them, 15 thousand are out of Argentina).

But Maradona is really glorified as hell there. Much more than Pele here in Brazil since a horde brazilians believe that Garrincha was better than him.

It is a great boost, motivation for the team, the players themselves said it. But of course, it isn't enough to win.
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About Droga:
Eric Kakou, press agent of Côte d'Ivoire, said that Drogba will play. According to the doctors he won't play the first game against Portugal, but he will be ready against Brazil.

Saintz0r
June 07, 2010, 09:12 PM
Seems like Robben wasn't cut yet from the cup, right? He must be in the same position as Drogba =b

Predictions for the first round? Lemme see...
South Africa 1x0 Mexico
Uruguai 2x2 France

And i'm getting really worried with Kaka... hope he gets in shape rly soon :XD

kkck
June 07, 2010, 09:24 PM
I'm sure DanielKnoT didn't say God in reference to maradonismo or Maradoniana Church. Am I wrong, Daniel? (By the way, more than 25 thousand people are maradoniano and, among them, 15 thousand are out of Argentina).

But Maradona is really glorified as hell there. Much more than Pele here in Brazil since a horde brazilians believe that Garrincha was better than him.

It is a great boost, motivation for the team, the players themselves said it. But of course, it isn't enough to win.
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About Droga:
Eric Kakou, press agent of Côte d'Ivoire, said that Drogba will play. According to the doctors he won't play the first game against Portugal, but he will be ready against Brazil.

IS maradona really more glorified in argentina than pele in brazil? I was under the impression that pele was an actual national treasure in brasil lol(also, I cna't seem to place garrincha...). I do find the comparison between maradona and pele a tad dumb though, pele was a number 9 and maradona was a number 10, to completely different positions....

goldb
June 08, 2010, 04:35 AM
I think the fact that they played in different times is a big factor as well, football as a game was different during the 70s and 80s. So Robben and Drogba aren't ruled out yet? Okay, fair enough. Only 3 more days til the first match; I really can't wait!!! Matches nearly everyday for about a month?? Were gonna be so spoiled!!

Black Lagoon
June 08, 2010, 07:10 PM
Spain did well today ... Iniesta and Xavi are just the best midfield in the world.

L0ki
June 08, 2010, 09:53 PM
I'm just hoping to see one or two good matches for a change... safest bet in the first round would be Spain-Chile.

Xophien
June 09, 2010, 06:46 AM
I honestly can't see Spain NOT win this one. Because they easily have the best team of this generation, and because it'd probably be in an epic way: provided they end first of their group (a rather weak one, so it should happen), they'll face in the round of 16 the second of group G (which has Brazil, Portugal and Côte d'Ivoire), then hey could face something like Italy, Argentine then Brazil or the Netherlands in the final. This would make for a good story.

So yeah, my favorites for the win are Spain, followed closely by Brazil (they have a team that surprisingly doesn't have any real star but is probably the most solid they've had in years, with an actual defense and a great goalkeeper), and I'd throw the Netherlands in there too, because while they won't win it (it'd be no fun if good-looking football actually won stuff...), they still have one of the best looking offense out there :noworry

And I'd say we should all keep a close eye on France! After Zidane's head in 2006 (World Cup final), Henry's hand in 2009 (World Cup qualifier against Ireland), Ribery's penis two months ago (his problem with an underage prostitute), at this rate, we might actually start playing with our feet... :oh
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Oh, and for the first day, I'd say:
South Africa 1-1 Mexico
Uruguay 1-1 France

My guess is that it'll be the group with the most draws >.>

And Marca has made an awesome calendar here: http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html

Really useful to keep track of the teams and matches~

DLord.Van.Buuren
June 09, 2010, 01:07 PM
indeed spain seems ready for it , they have many good players the deffence is good , i wonder if villa will participate .

pandaaqueen
June 09, 2010, 04:50 PM
italy is in my first place, they must defend their title

By this time, I don't think that the Squadra Azzurra will come very far.

Instead of boosting Italy's young talent, Lippi is relying far too much on overage players this time. That's not only a waste of potential, but also pretty stupid; experience isn't everything, he should know that.

L0ki
June 09, 2010, 06:23 PM
So yeah, my favorites for the win are Spain, followed closely by Brazil (they have a team that surprisingly doesn't have any real star but is probably the most solid they've had in years, with an actual defense and a great goalkeeper), and I'd throw the Netherlands in there too, because while they won't win it (it'd be no fun if good-looking football actually won stuff...), they still have one of the best looking offense out there :noworry

Those 3 are THE favorites, objectively. England and Argentina have names but no team, and Italy and Germany have neither. But well, you can never really rule out the big teams completely. And Holland and Spain's history of shitting themselves on decisive matches makes me think the only real candidate is Brazil.

Imperium
June 09, 2010, 06:54 PM
Those 3 are THE favorites, objectively. England and Argentina have names but no team, and Italy and Germany have neither. But well, you can never really rule out the big teams completely. And Holland and Spain's history of shitting themselves on decisive matches makes me think the only real candidate is Brazil. I don't think that argument can be levelled against Spain anymore, especially after the Euro's. They beat both Germany and Italy at that tournament and i think for all intent and purposes quashed their demons. Besides the core of the team is composed of players who are at the summit of club football and are accustomed to winning. The nations that could be said to be chokers now, are England and Holland. :(

L0ki
June 09, 2010, 11:04 PM
coughconfederationscupcough

blai
June 10, 2010, 05:21 AM
I was just about to say that, you forgot USA - Spain in Conf. Cup Imperium? Even though it's more of a jippo in Spain, they should never have lost, it was an awesome game to watch!

3c
June 10, 2010, 05:32 AM
Spain is no doubt in top shape. Their friendly match against Poland which ended 6-0 in Spain's favour was totally amazing, even if they were playing against a mediocre team like Poland. They still showed how amazing their team is together. They're definitely my favorites. It's too bad really, because Spain will be the death of Portugal. No matter how it plays out, Spain will meet Portugal either in the round of 16 or the quarter-finals, which will be the end of Portugal. Obviously I'm rooting for Portugal as I'm from there, so I wouldn't mind if they got a little further than the round of 16, which is the most logical outcome. Spain is no doubt winning their group, and Portugal I bet will come in second place after Brazil. Meaning they meet Spain in the round of 16 = death. Spain has always been Portugal's worst enemy. It's a shame because I believe Portugal could have done better than that had they been more lucky with the group setups.

Argentina would be a safe bet were it not for Maradona, who is a fucking moron. So Spain stands as the strongest team. I would have rooted for Spain anyway though. Spain is Portugal's "big brother", so if Portugal can't win, then Spain is the next choice.

Brazil will be a strong team, but well they're meeting Spain sooner or later too, which will be an amazing match. Netherlands is a strong team too. I don't really have much faith in France or Italy this year, nor would I like for them to win. They play boring football in my opinion, and I'm bored of France's success WC after WC.

Imperium
June 10, 2010, 07:08 AM
coughconfederationscupcough

I was just about to say that, you forgot USA - Spain in Conf. Cup Imperium? Even though it's more of a jippo in Spain, they should never have lost, it was an awesome game to watch!
Well there was me thinking we were talking about "decisive" matches not warm up tournaments. :p

blai
June 10, 2010, 08:25 AM
Decisive matches or not, it was still a fiasco and it gave the Americans some wind behind their sails. I think it's going to be an interesting first round in group B. For sure.

Black Lagoon
June 10, 2010, 02:18 PM
I honestly can't see Spain NOT win this one. Because they easily have the best team of this generation, and because it'd probably be in an epic way: provided they end first of their group (a rather weak one, so it should happen), they'll face in the round of 16 the second of group G (which has Brazil, Portugal and Côte d'Ivoire), then hey could face something like Italy, Argentine then Brazil or the Netherlands in the final. This would make for a good story.

So yeah, my favorites for the win are Spain, followed closely by Brazil (they have a team that surprisingly doesn't have any real star but is probably the most solid they've had in years, with an actual defense and a great goalkeeper), and I'd throw the Netherlands in there too, because while they won't win it (it'd be no fun if good-looking football actually won stuff...), they still have one of the best looking offense out there :noworry
Same here, my bet goes for Spain and in the worst scenario Argentina, both are good, + Maradona said he'll run naked through Buenos Aires if Argentina win the World Cup and we know that lately Luciana Salazar said that she would join Diego in their "naked run in the Obelisk" ... that's the spirit ... Motivation for the team. :p

And I'd say we should all keep a close eye on France! After Zidane's head in 2006 (World Cup final), Henry's hand in 2009 (World Cup qualifier against Ireland), Ribery's penis two months ago (his problem with an underage prostitute), at this rate, we might actually start playing with our feet... :oh

LMAO ... Nice One :grin

indeed spain seems ready for it , they have many good players the deffence is good , i wonder if villa will participate .

What make you think he won't? Perfect combination, Xavi, Iniesta and Villa :shakefist

eni
June 10, 2010, 03:33 PM
they still have one of the best looking offense out there :noworry
Didn't know you were watching football for the pretty boys ;D

So tomorrow, let's see...
I sympathisize with South Africa as the host aaaaand... hmm. I think I skip on the second match >.>

Imperium
June 10, 2010, 03:51 PM
hmm. I think I skip on the second match >.> SACRILEGE:yelling

Though i am glad that the matches will be at watch able times over here. 3:00 and 7:30 thats really not bad. :smile-big

destiny4ever
June 10, 2010, 06:13 PM
Did anyone else watch the celebration concert today? It was pretty cool :cool:. Shakira’s presentation was great; the song, the music, the dance, everything was very entertaining. I really enjoyed watching her performance.

Finally tomorrow will be the inauguration of the cup; I’m really looking forward to the opening ceremony and of course the games. :)

L0ki
June 10, 2010, 09:35 PM
Well there was me thinking we were talking about "decisive" matches not warm up tournaments. :p

Well I just said that because I'm used to see them as a loser team, but from a strictly futbolistical standpoint, they're clearly on a different level than the rest of the teams. Even though they have no fullbacks...

blai
June 11, 2010, 08:19 AM
Very nice opening ceremony and seriously, I hope Di Maria will get a lot of playtime in Argentina and that he can finally shine...

One Eyed Sharingan
June 11, 2010, 02:37 PM
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Oh, and for the first day, I'd say:
South Africa 1-1 Mexico
Uruguay 1-1 France

My guess is that it'll be the group with the most draws >.>holy spirits batman!!! you found new talent in psychic? because i refuse to believe that you based you prediction on research or statistic records etc

i was rooting for the Mexican btw.

This France vs Uruguay match has a very lenient ref for European standards, and it made the match pretty interesting so far.

Harlett
June 11, 2010, 02:57 PM
Yes, a draw.
And nobody else is happy for that.
We.should.have.won *facepalm* At least in the first half of the game was quite possible



My guess is that it'll be the group with the most draws >.>




Yes, it seems that it will ¬¬

One Eyed Sharingan
June 11, 2010, 03:28 PM
aaaaand, another draw, a goalless match. France 0 - 0 Uruguay

tomorrow, England vs USA.. i'm rooting for England, but i think USA will put up a good fight

DLord.Van.Buuren
June 11, 2010, 03:39 PM
usa is indeed not a match to england but i'll sure enjoy the game .

blai
June 11, 2010, 04:07 PM
Argentina vs Nigeria, Usa vs England, my god there are going to be a bunch of awesome games tomorrow! Not really predictable either since USA can surprise and I have no idea of Argentina's discipline...

Drmke
June 11, 2010, 04:11 PM
I'm going to root for the USA with a ridiculous amount of energetic passion :wtf

I get overly excited watching sports games, and I'm sure I'll break something >.>

blai
June 11, 2010, 04:15 PM
I do too. But I'm rooting for RSA and Holland. When RSA did their first goal I almost trashed the glass table :d

If it's the WC, then it's okay to go nuts!!!!!

sindergi
June 11, 2010, 04:16 PM
I was a little bit dissapointed by france.

My prediction :

Korea vs Greece = 1:0
England vs USA = 2:1
Argentinia vs Nigeria = 2:0

blai
June 11, 2010, 04:19 PM
That's a quite likely prediction looking at the papers.

1 - 0 South Korea
3 - 0 Argentina
2 - 1 England

Looking at today's results I'm not that sure of my prediction anymore...

Xophien
June 11, 2010, 04:20 PM
holy spirits batman!!! you found new talent in psychic? because i refuse to believe that you based you prediction on research or statistic records etc

I tried to be logical, thinking that Mexico would be the better team but S-Af was playing at home and well motivated, so I expected the match to go exactly how it went >.>; And even if I got the score wrong, I still predicted the second draw \o/ guess I'm bound not to get anything else right for the rest of the tournament :oh

but yeah, it'll be tough getting out of this group, with the south-africans motivated as they seem to be, it seems pretty much everyone is at about the same level... I guess I'll bet on south africa and france qualifying for the next round.

Tomorrow...
South Korea 0-0 Greece
Argentina 3-1 Nigeria
England 2-0 USA

I'm still expecting to be pleasantly surprised by the american team, though. I think they have a good chance to come out second of their group.

Koen
June 11, 2010, 04:44 PM
WTH was France against Uruguay - was that a game between two teams playing the most boring game ever. France doesn't have a decent attack play. There was no striker in the box. They are constantly shooting from outside the box and they always end up 3-4 meters aside :rofl

and damn, I am really annoyed by that buzzing sound. It takes away the sound of the emotions from the public

Xophien
June 11, 2010, 04:53 PM
WTH was France against Uruguay - was that a game between two teams playing the most boring game ever. France doesn't have a decent attack play. There was no striker in the box. They are constantly shooting from outside the box and they always end up 3-4 meters aside :rofl

Strikers? French strikers aren't in the box, koen, they're in the street, doing nothing but asking for more money and less working hours. If you put it that way, we definitely have the best strikers in the world :oh


and damn, I am really annoyed by that buzzing sound. It takes away the sound of the emotions from the publicI usually turn off my brain when watching a football match (it gets in the way), but that buzzing sound truly made it seem like my brain was melting away through my ears. And it seems even worse for the people on the field, so maybe it's not surprising they were playing so poorly. I honestly don't see the point of those things, and wish they'd ban them already because I'm not sure i'll be able to stand watching matches with the sound on at this rate -_-;

Imperium
June 11, 2010, 06:18 PM
Use the mute button, it works wonders >.>;. But i do have a soft spot for the vuvuzelas's, at least they make more sense then our commentators. -_-;

One Eyed Sharingan
June 11, 2010, 06:39 PM
WTH was France against Uruguay - was that a game between two teams playing the most boring game ever. France doesn't have a decent attack play. There was no striker in the box. They are constantly shooting from outside the box and they always end up 3-4 meters aside :rofl

and damn, I am really annoyed by that buzzing sound. It takes away the sound of the emotions from the publicyeah, those vuvuzelas are really killing the the mood.
just sing some song, the way it should be (though National anthem is really not fitting, too).. or horn some honk, but not making those buzzing sound, i thought there were gigantic flies at my room


Use the mute button, it works wonders >.>;. But i do have a soft spot for the vuvuzelas's, at least they make more sense then our commentators. -_-;heh, i thought our commentators (Indonesian) are the only annoying ones... hahaha, and how they analyse the match during the breaks are even worse.

i guess south american commentators are the best... they can shout "goal" for about 7 hours, maybe???

L0ki
June 11, 2010, 06:52 PM
Made 100$ on the first day, not a bad profit. I have a feeling this will be a good WC...

Tomorrow's matches:

Korea 0 - 0 Greece
Argentina 2 - 0 Nigeria
USA 2 - 1 England

USA pays 7 to 1, England is overrated luckily for me.

Bugzee
June 11, 2010, 10:26 PM
My guess is that it'll be the group with the most draws >.>

And Marca has made an awesome calendar here: http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html

Really useful to keep track of the teams and matches~

Thanks Xophien for that link. That’s a really awesome WC calendar; the best I’ve seen for ’10. :amuse


indeed spain seems ready for it , they have many good players the deffence is good , i wonder if villa will participate .

Best thing about Spain's squad = The midfield combination of Xavi & Ineista...like Mr. Lagoon already stated. haha. Can't wait to see their upcoming group matches.


Very nice opening ceremony and seriously, I hope Di Maria will get a lot of playtime in Argentina and that he can finally shine...

I agree. That was one of the best WC opening ceremonies in a long time imo. I really enjoyed watching it.

The first game was ok. I thought there was a lot of messy play though. It wasn’t exciting nor entertaining for the most part but that slightly changed once Tshabalala scored; and what a brilliant goal that was! Just brilliant. I loved the dancing celebration too! Tbh I expected more from Mexico. It would’ve been great for S. Africa if they held on to that one goal lead but it wasn’t meant to be…

Second game was….

Why the hell is Henry YET AGAIN starting on the bench for France? I personally would’ve put Henry up front with Anelka. Govou was all over the place; I heard the commentator say that he hasn’t played for France for two years and all of a sudden his straight back in the first team already? Wtf. What a sweet cross and set up Ribery created for Govou in the first half…..and he fk’d up lol. Oh well. Forlan played well for Uruguay, it’s ashame he didn’t score in the first 10 mins when he had a perfect shot on goal.



tomorrow, England vs USA.. i'm rooting for England, but i think USA will put up a good fight


usa is indeed not a match to england but i'll sure enjoy the game .

Italy drew with USA back in ’06. Gawd, I remember watching that game, the ref was certainly paid very well indeed to keep the Italians quiet for 90-93 mins. England SHOULD win the game tomorrow…today against the USA. I’m hoping Green or Hart will get the number 1 jersey; both of them deserve it more than D. James imo.

I say…2-1 to England.

The one game I’m really looking forward to is was the Argentina Vs. Nigeria match…but I’ll be at work. :scry I think Argentina will win 3-1. As for the other game between S. Korea & Greece….I don’t really care but it would be great if Korea win. 1-0 Go Park! :XD


I do too. But I'm rooting for RSA and Holland. When RSA did their first goal I almost trashed the glass table :d

If it's the WC, then it's okay to go nuts!!!!!

Yessir.

Xophien
June 12, 2010, 04:45 AM
Why the hell is Henry YET AGAIN starting on the bench for France? I personally would’ve put Henry up front with Anelka. Govou was all over the place; I heard the commentator say that he hasn’t played for France for two years and all of a sudden his straight back in the first team already?

I have nothing against Henry starting on the bench, if you consider the poor season he's just had with the Barça, scoring only four times in 32 appearances. Despite what he's brought to the team, and how much I'm thankful to the guy, I'll admit that he's out of shape, so having him starting on the bench is not much of a surprise. Well, except when among the players starting there's Anelka (who seems totally out of place as a lone striker) and Govou (Domenech's mascot, who scored TWICE in thirty matches this year). Then again, we're lacking an actual striker, one that'd stay in the box and piss off the opponent's defenders...

I'm guessing Domenech just doesn't care, seeing how he won't be the manager of the team anymore after this tournament and since he hardly can be hated more than he already is, he seems to do what he wants with the players he likes instead of going for players who actually are in shape. I personally stopped trying to understand, since I'm not expecting anything from our team in this tournament (yet I'm still cheering for them, silly me), I say let the guy do what he wants and let's forget what happened altogether afterwards :shakefist

Koen
June 12, 2010, 04:58 AM
Benzema (why did you leave him in France? he should have at least taken a seat on the bench?), Cygnac... I don't say they are the best strikers but they must be able to do something that Anelka and Henry can't do at this moment. And gourcuff? I hear so much about him and I think this was one of the first matches I saw him playing, he was really awful just like ribéry was...
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damn, and I am rooting for England. They are going to be WC's surprise. I consider them as an outsider. I give them a lot of chances for winning the WC but most people won't

and in the end, koenosaki always wins :p

blai
June 12, 2010, 05:11 AM
£50 that England will get cance... I mean they'll leave WO and exit the WC after their 2nd game.

xi0
June 12, 2010, 06:29 AM
damn, and I am rooting for England. They are going to be WC's surprise. I consider them as an outsider. I give them a lot of chances for winning the WC but most people won't

and in the end, koenosaki always wins :p

What the hell man? Do you know what a victory over England would mean for soccer in our country? It would be huge.


£50 that England will get cance... I mean they'll leave WO and exit the WC after their 2nd game.

How the hell would that happen?

blai
June 12, 2010, 07:29 AM
Ask Koen, he roots for them...

sindergi
June 12, 2010, 07:45 AM
What the hell man? Do you know what a victory over England would mean for soccer in our country? It would be huge.


Are there really people who like football in the USA ? i had always the feeling that (almost) nobody like football in the us and that they thinks that this is a boring game. But the last time i was in the usa was 10 years ago.....:D

Xophien
June 12, 2010, 07:54 AM
Benzema (why did you leave him in France? he should have at least taken a seat on the bench?)

I can't stand the guy, so my opinion of him might be biased, but it's likely that it's because he had a poor season with the Real this year (completely overshadowed by Higuain, who has both French and Argentine nationality and definitely picked the right team to play for), plus it seems that he's a jerk, behaving like C. Ronaldo while not having even half of his talent. I'll admit he would have made a better choice than Anelka at least, though.


And gourcuff? I hear so much about him and I think this was one of the first matches I saw him playing, he was really awful just like ribéry was...The rumor says he's ostracized in the team, what with him being the new french superstar and old crones like Henry not liking that. Add to that a difficult season in the french league, the fact he's not playing at his proper place (which is right behind the striker), and you can see how things aren't easy for him >.>;


And in the meantime, greece is getting its ass kicked, which, while not what I predicted, is a great news since I hate the way they play :shakefist

eni
June 12, 2010, 08:00 AM
Damn, this Korean team sure had quite some bishies in it. Was worth to root for them! :luv

So what's next? Argentina vs. Nigeria.... hm...
I vote that Nigeria is beating Argentina via massive noise orgy D:

xi0
June 12, 2010, 08:11 AM
Are there really people who like football in the USA ? i had always the feeling that (almost) nobody like football in the us and that they thinks that this is a boring game. But the last time i was in the usa was 10 years ago.....:D

Well it's surely more popular among those who play(ed) it. I played it so I follow the World Cup at least. I'd say it's not a popular sport mostly because there is no viable professional league, the MLS is HORRIBLE. It's much more popular as a college sport actually IMO.


So what's next? Argentina vs. Nigeria.... hm...
I vote that Nigeria is beating Argentina via massive noise orgy D:

:rofl

sindergi
June 12, 2010, 08:18 AM
I really liked how korea played - even if you can clearly see that some of their players have not enouqh experience and need still a little bit more technique (especially the defence). But overall they played very well......
And i never liked the playing-style of greece - so im glad that they lost. They only played a little bit better in the mid of the second half, when they played with two striker.

L0ki
June 12, 2010, 11:12 AM
That was Barsa's Messi playing, clearly at a different pace than the rest. Too bad he couldn't score, maybe he should try hitting it with more power, since this ball favors that kind of shots.

Koen
June 12, 2010, 11:45 AM
What the hell man? Do you know what a victory over England would mean for soccer in our country? It would be huge.



How the hell would that happen?


Ask Koen, he roots for them...

Ironic or not?

The only thing you have to know, is that I was just doing a Gary Lineker :p ah well, might be that some people are really clueless nowadays

"Soccer is a game for 22 people that run around, play the ball, and one referee who makes a slew of mistakes, and in the end Germany always wins." Gary Lineker

I expect England against America as a tight game with as winner :p (won't say) :p

kkck
June 12, 2010, 11:58 AM
You know, spain has a great team but I just don't feel them.... I would root for brazil over spain, they have a very defensive game but underestimating them for a lack of "jugo bonito" is fatal... I do have hopes that Italy would take the cup this year again though. Argentina won today but I was disappointed, they should have scored more. Not sure whether Nigeria did really good or simply maradona did not do his job all that well (at moments argentina's defense seemed a tad brittle and were it not for messi attacks would have had no structure)

On another note, I don't think USA will win against England. Surprisingly the USA generally has good championships but the actual level they show does not seem to be above the average in america (the continent).

L0ki
June 12, 2010, 12:34 PM
Argentina won today but I was disappointed, they should have scored more. Not sure whether Nigeria did really good or simply maradona did not do his job all that well (at moments argentina's defense seemed a tad brittle and were it not for messi attacks would have had no structure)

Argentina today was chaos made tactic. Jonás is useless as a fullback. Well, he's useless in general, but at least he wouldn't make it so easy for the opponent team to create chances playing in the midfield. And with Verón there we were completely giving away the right side of the field. All for the sake of including Tevez on the initial formation, who didn't play a bad match, but definitely isn't worth destroying whatever little team structure we had. But that's ok, I didn't expect Maradona to reveal himself in this WC as a tactical genius, considering past experiences. Messi will just play the other 6 matches on a superb level too and win them by himself, and we'll take the world cup. Oh, wait...

kkck
June 12, 2010, 12:45 PM
Maradona has nothing left to reveal as a coach, he has been at it for quite some time and failed repeatedly. If he had anything to reveal at all, he'd showed it a long time ago. Barely winning against Nigeria shows the epitome of Maradona's tactical genius. As of now, there is nothing more for him to show, he is done, over, finito. The only thing which I found a tad enjoyable about the match was that messi seemed to have taken the role of a legitimate number ten, like those from the old days when a single player coordinated the entire team-perhaps not to an extreme but the intentions were clear-. Now, I do find such an strategy obsolete but even I can enjoy such a nostalgic thing.

Saintz0r
June 12, 2010, 12:51 PM
South Korea was a good surprise to me, didn't expect them to play this nicely :P ( Sure, it was against Greece, but still... )
Argentina was exactly what everyone expected, awesome attacks and a right side with Gutierrez that wasn't atacking or defending :facepalm If Maradona fix that, it'll be a real problem for the other teams. While he doesn't, Argentina seems a bit vulnerable.

England x Usa in a few minutes, i'm expecting a 2x0 to England, but Usa has a very nice team too, and probably will make it to the second stage.

ps: Woke up today, in a saturday morning, 8am to watch KoreaxGreece, and tomorrow i'll do the same to watch Algeria x Slovenia. :XD

L0ki
June 12, 2010, 02:14 PM
Maradona has nothing left to reveal as a coach, he has been at it for quite some time and failed repeatedly. If he had anything to reveal at all, he'd showed it a long time ago. Barely winning against Nigeria shows the epitome of Maradona's tactical genius. As of now, there is nothing more for him to show, he is done, over, finito. The only thing which I found a tad enjoyable about the match was that messi seemed to have taken the role of a legitimate number ten, like those from the old days when a single player coordinated the entire team-perhaps not to an extreme but the intentions were clear-. Now, I do find such an strategy obsolete but even I can enjoy such a nostalgic thing.


Messi doesn't fit that role, he's most dangerous when recieving the ball close to the area, not circulating it around the field. The only one who can play as a typical number 10 is Pastore. Verón would be close to a playmaker in the actual initial formation, but I think he should take advantage of the irregular trajectory that the Jabulani takes with long powerful shots more instead of trying his infamous "long passes" that miss 99% of the time.

Also, today Argentina showed some nice set piece plays. There's some merit for the coach for that, at least.
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lol Green

kkck
June 12, 2010, 02:26 PM
I don't think messi fits the role either but maradona's intentions of having him play a more than central role in the team are quite obvious.

DAMN YOU GREEN! Seriously, how can someone fail so much. Thank god I did not put any money on the game...

sindergi
June 12, 2010, 02:31 PM
haha....omg england and his goalkeepers. Since Gordon Banks they never had a good goalkeeper. I feel a bit sorry for them....but just a little bit :D
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I don't think messi fits the role either but maradona's intentions of having him play a more than central role in the team are quite obvious.

DAMN YOU GREEN! Seriously, how can someone fail so much. Thank god I did not put any money on the game...

Shouldnt you be happy about this as an american?

kkck
June 12, 2010, 03:28 PM
^ I am not from the USA (I don't even like calling them american since america is a continent), I merely choose to have that flag appear in my profile thing because I prefer to not show my actual nationality and I find that the USA one is the most generic.
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DAMN YOU GREEN! You almost cost me money (I did not actually bet but still).... Can't believe how many goals england failed at the end, damn it all!

predsfan
June 12, 2010, 03:38 PM
Wow, the U.S. gets a little luck in the World Cup. That's already more luck than we had 4 years ago :darn.

2 things:

1. Tim Howard's good (thought I already knew that :p)
2. Onyewu's beard is awesome.

Koen
June 12, 2010, 03:39 PM
Man this game was only interesting because of the chances. But, that was it. Passes, tactics, individual play, etc it sucked from both sides. A team who couldn't play better against a team who didn't want to play better. Chances aside, this game was truly mediocre. Then again, not as worse as the silly frenchmen against Uruguay

Imperium
June 12, 2010, 03:40 PM
haha....omg england and his goalkeepers. Since Gordon Banks they never had a good goalkeeper. I feel a bit sorry for them....but just a little bit :DWe've been shit in that position since seaman retired. But even without the howler they probably would have scored. Enjoyable game nonetheless.

Edit: Btw as a sidenote, i think the ball was in the air for most of the game. *sigh*

Koen
June 12, 2010, 03:41 PM
Onyewu's beard is awesome.

Man of the match together with Howard

He played a long time in Belgium. He had that beard back then too and his Iranian girlfriend is really hot ;)

Harlett
June 12, 2010, 06:32 PM
Well it's surely more popular among those who play(ed) it. I played it so I follow the World Cup at least. I'd say it's not a popular sport mostly because there is no viable professional league, the MLS is HORRIBLE. It's much more popular as a college sport actually IMO.

Wow O_oU
At least the idea about the level of the soccer in USA, in Mexico, change. Mainly after the defeat in the 2002 World Cup (Ouch)


Argentina won today but I was disappointed, they should have scored more. Not sure whether Nigeria did really good or simply maradona did not do his job all that well (at moments argentina's defense seemed a tad brittle and were it not for messi attacks would have had no structure)

Yeah

And I really thought that England would win but not
Oh god, that error so serious x_x
Congratulation, USA

thsv
June 13, 2010, 04:12 AM
haha....omg england and his goalkeepers. Since Gordon Banks they never had a good goalkeeper. I feel a bit sorry for them....but just a little bit :D
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You forget about Shilton and Clemence. It's just a pity they came up at the same time. Oh and as much as I hate to admit it David Seaman.

So 2 and a half groups out of the way. France were an abomination but then again they were 4 years ago and almost won it. Uruguay and Mexico looked average. South Africa played a lot better than I expected. Argentina didn't look great but I suppose they're pacing themselves. They don't want to peak too soon.

As for England, if they had won with this performance I'd have said it was just about getting the result rather than playing well. They'll be in trouble if they can't step it up a gear. Algeria aren't as bad as people make them out to be. Remember they ground out a 3-2 win in the African Cup of Nations against Ivory Coast in January. They are a team that plays solely to get the result.

Evil3ye
June 13, 2010, 10:01 AM
Ok ok ok ok ppls. So today's Germany's first match vs the evil island of doom - Australia. LOLOOLLOl

No money but I say Ger 1:0 Aus

:darn Even if our captain is a dwarf, since Ballack is out..

goldb
June 13, 2010, 10:40 AM
2-1 Germany. Penalty given to Ghana now... I hope they win.

blai
June 13, 2010, 10:42 AM
Ghana will win, ka-ching. And 2-0 to Germany. Easy.

L0ki
June 13, 2010, 11:05 AM
Will someone score more than one freaking goal?!?!
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Will someone try to play football??!!!

Imperium
June 13, 2010, 11:16 AM
Will someone score more than one freaking goal?!?!
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Will someone try to play football??!!!Yea, to be honest the tournament has been shit so far. Nothing, i mean nothing interesting has happened apart from Green.

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 11:21 AM
there was no interesting game - all games were pretty boring. I hope it will get better when the round of sixteen begins.....

my bet : Germany vs Australia = 0:1

eni
June 13, 2010, 11:24 AM
Group stage is always boring, the boost comes later. That's the same every four years.....

Evil3ye
June 13, 2010, 11:25 AM
Yop. tournement was shit so far. Hope today's game won't be that disappointing.
sindergi, eni.. public viewing? ;/

Akainu
June 13, 2010, 11:26 AM
there was no interesting game - all games were pretty boring. I hope it will get better when the round of sixteen begins.....

my bet : Germany vs Australia = 0:1
traitor :notrust

but since I was wrong with about every bet until now, I have the bad feeling you might be right :/

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 11:33 AM
Yop. tournement was shit so far. Hope today's game won't be that disappointing.
sindergi, eni.. public viewing? ;/

Yes im watching the game in the Beach Club in Tiergarten.
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traitor :notrust

but since I was wrong with about every bet until now, I have the bad feeling you might be right :/

I hope for a 3:0 for Germany but i think Australia will win. I have no trust in this team - i hope they change my mind today.

goldb
June 13, 2010, 11:34 AM
Yea, to be honest the tournament has been shit so far. Nothing, i mean nothing interesting has happened apart from Green.

True stories. talking about shit, did anyone watch Slovenia vs Algeria???:mad As described by Alan Hansen, that game watch "pergatory" I felt like I was being punished for some reason.

eni
June 13, 2010, 11:38 AM
I hope for a 3:0 for Germany but i think Australia will win. I have no trust in this team - i hope they change my mind today.
That is SOOOO German, seriously. You're hearing these comments every cup up till the quarters and then they suddenly all mutate into fansbyheart and stick a little flag on their car :XD

I watch at home, Evil3ye. My neighbours are loud enough to replace the crowd around me >_>

Evil3ye
June 13, 2010, 11:46 AM
I'll watch at home as well. Not feeling like going out today, although the weather is decent at the moment. If Lahm's team won't be as lame as his name says I probably will be watching the next games somewhere else though :P

Still sayin 1:0 for Ger.

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 11:48 AM
That is SOOOO German, seriously. You're hearing these comments every cup up till the quarters and then they suddenly all mutate into fansbyheart and stick a little flag on their car :XD

I watch at home, Evil3ye. My neighbours are loud enough to replace the crowd around me >_>

After all im german :D

The reason why i dont trust them are :
Klose : played almost never this year and has a poor form at the moment
Podolski : had a poor form during the Bundeliga this year, too

At least we have Cacau, who is in a really good condition.

And we have a lot of new and young players.....and they first have to prove that they can manage the pressure.
Dont misunderstand me....im a big fan of Kießling, Müller,Khedira and Marin and i think they will be great players in the future, but lets see how they are doing this worldcup.

kkck
June 13, 2010, 12:20 PM
OMFG, what is up with the games so far? Every single goal so far has not been the result of a good play, even attributing them to luck would be a mistake. Every goal so far has been the result of a horrible mistake by someone.... STEP UP PEOPLE, WC is supposed to be fun. The only cool thing about the initial stages is watching big teams crushing small teams by a wide margin and we are not getting even that.... 3-0 for germany today!

L0ki
June 13, 2010, 02:06 PM
Germany is showing some surprisingly good football... and I hope they stop doing it soon cause I have money on a 2-0.

xi0
June 13, 2010, 02:10 PM
Wow O_oU
At least the idea about the level of the soccer in USA, in Mexico, change. Mainly after the defeat in the 2002 World Cup (Ouch)

:rofl I still remember the feeling today

Evil3ye
June 13, 2010, 02:21 PM
Oh-My-God. Since when are they so good :o
or does Australia simply suck? Nah, they had some pretty good chances in the beginning already just failed in scoring. So next match I'm watching in public :D

Oh and red for Özil pls. Totally dislike him already, don't wanna see these ugly ape dude in this championship no more.. and here I was thinking Müller's the black sheep

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 03:19 PM
Ole Ole.....4:0 - this was pretty good !!!

But this was NO red card !! The referee seems to like giving yellow and red cards.....

Xophien
June 13, 2010, 03:22 PM
Germany's match was definitely better than all the other matches combined so far. It was still one-sided, so it could be better, but Germany played so... not like the usual Germany, I was impressed. They'll still lose in the semi-finals to a team that plays a defensive football anyway, but still >.>

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 03:26 PM
Germany's match was definitely better than all the other matches combined so far. It was still one-sided, so it could be better, but Germany played so... not like the usual Germany, I was impressed. They'll still lose in the semi-finals to a team that plays a defensive football anyway, but still >.>

Like 2006 in the semi-finals against Italy.....what a painfull memory :crying

kkck
June 13, 2010, 03:58 PM
Finally, a top team actually playing like a top rated team... Seriously, seeing england and argentina struggle so much against second and third rate teams respectively was painful to say the least.... I can't say I was surprised about the results of Germany's game (I did have my money on a 3-0), Australia is just a third rate team in my book..... Hopefully Italy's game will be just as good. I have my money on italy winning 3-1 against paraguay...

Imperium
June 13, 2010, 04:03 PM
Oh and red for Özil pls. Totally dislike him already, don't wanna see these ugly ape dude in this championship no more.. and here I was thinking Müller's the back sheepWas that because of the dive? He was awesome in the match i thought.

One Eyed Sharingan
June 13, 2010, 04:09 PM
those young uns from Germany played nicely, calm.
Well i guess because they we're pretty much controlling the game.

and i'm pretty pleased that they didn't concede any goal
no goal for you Gomez, i knew that



That is SOOOO German, seriously. You're hearing these comments every cup up till the quarters and then they suddenly all mutate into fansbyheart and stick a little flag on their car :XD

I watch at home, Evil3ye. My neighbours are loud enough to replace the crowd around me >_>hahah i remembered before WC 2006, they being tsuntsun for Klinsmann, and then being deredere after. Even asking him to prolong his contract as the manager

so after this match, are they being deredere yet? and signed the contract for Loew to prolong his status as the manager?

goldb
June 13, 2010, 04:09 PM
I didn't expect that kinda performance from Germany but it was the best of the tournament. Germany were as good as Australia were poor. Good perfomances from Ozil, Lahm, Muller, Even Podolski and Klose who people were doubting were really good, and the latter should have had a hattrick.

Googlez_kun
June 13, 2010, 04:14 PM
First post here and what i have to say first is lol @ Green.

Anyway,I expect a good performance from Italy and Netherlands tomorrow.

One Eyed Sharingan
June 13, 2010, 04:16 PM
I didn't expect that kinda performance from Germany but it was the best of the tournament. Germany were as good as Australia were poor. Good perfomances from Ozil, Lahm, Muller, Even Podolski and Klose who people were doubting were really good, and the latter should have had a hattrick.well, i somewhat expected the attacking nature.. but the superb possession play??? it was a pleasant surprise.

bah gotta go to work in 1.5 hour... gonna hit the sack now

kkck
June 13, 2010, 04:31 PM
I didn't expect that kinda performance from Germany but it was the best of the tournament. Germany were as good as Australia were poor. Good perfomances from Ozil, Lahm, Muller, Even Podolski and Klose who people were doubting were really good, and the latter should have had a hattrick.

I am not really sure why would anyone be surprised about germany's performance today lol. Some people make it sound as if Germany was not a favorite to win the WC as it is every other cup -granted it is just a favorite, not THE favorite-. Australia has never been a remotely good team, hell, they are not even mediocre....

Evil3ye
June 13, 2010, 04:42 PM
Was that because of the dive? He was awesome in the match i thought.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aKiyFkrjYKc/SfJs2ut2q3I/AAAAAAAAFnc/T0wrMxHCr_8/s400/%C3%B6zil+feldman.jpg

@kkck tbh I didn't see Ger being a favorite either. But this might be because of the whole bad media over here like news bout Ballack, the distrust against the yound players, Kuranyi's dismissing, and more.. however after their opening match it chanced completely. I do expect same good perfermance against Ghana now. Not sure about Serbia yet though.

Can't wait to see Italy's, Netherlands', Portugal's and Spain's perfermance these days now.))

DanielKnoT
June 13, 2010, 04:44 PM
What amazing game from Germany.. They are a very different team without Ballack.. More Offensive and faster..

kkck
June 13, 2010, 04:46 PM
@kkck tbh I didn't see Ger being a favorite either. But this might be because of the whole bad media over here like news bout Ballack, the distrust against the yound players, Kuranyi's dismissing, and more.. however after their opening match it chanced completely. I do expect same good perfermance against Ghana now. Not sure about Serbia yet though.

Can't wait to see Italy's, Netherlands', Portugal's and Spain's perfermance these days now.))

Ballack is just one player. Even though another of his level might not be around, I'd think there are plenty other players of roughly his level who could replace him. It's like saying Brasil lost a lot by not having ronaldihno on the team....It's a shame but IMO not something which could altogether cost the WC to the team. Germany is a well structured team that has potent offense, I doubt they will fail to show similar results against serbia or ghana (I do think both of them are as third rate as australia).

Akainu
June 13, 2010, 04:48 PM
So in the end it was a good thing Boateng injured him (sorry Ballack) and might actually backfire on Ghana, that's one of the interesting twists and turns a worldcup should have :amuse

kkck
June 13, 2010, 04:51 PM
On another note, I am the only one who does not really feel spain winning this WC? I know they won a bunch of stuff and have a great team, I just don't feel it. Who knows, everyone else could be right and I could be wrong lol.

Also, who do you guys see making it to the next round in group H other than spain? Honduras is an awful team and I really do not expect much from them, I think Chile will make it.

sindergi
June 13, 2010, 04:55 PM
Im very curious about the teams which are playing tomorrow.

My predictions for tomorrow :

Netherland vs. Denmark = 3:0
Japan vs. Cameroon = 0:1
Italy vs. Paraguay = 1:1

I think Netherland has a strong team this worldcup...like almost every wc but in the past they almost failed evertime in big tournaments....lets see how it will be this wc.
I dont know what to think about Japan, saw in the last years no game of them, so i think Cameroon is stronger.
I think Italy´s team is too old and the games i watched in the last time make me thinks that this will not be a good wc for them......and i never liked their defensive football - ok but you have to admit that this style is very sucessfull.

kkck
June 13, 2010, 05:03 PM
Doesn't italy always play good tournaments? There is also a reason they won the WC at germany. Paraguay is not particularly strong even by the poor standards of south america, IMO there are plenty of teams who did not make it to the WC that are overall better. Italy is always a strong competitor, IMO they will win 3-1 against paraguay.

Koen
June 13, 2010, 05:11 PM
Germany is showing some surprisingly good football...

:rofl

I don't know if you check out European national teams. Germany lost the last European Championship against Spain (consider that championship on world level); furthermore Germany has always been a good tournament team. Even when their team is weaker to their common standards, they even manage to play a WC final, like they did in Japan/South-Korea...

Football isn't technical play only. Let me say:

the best eleven always win against the eleven best

kkck
June 13, 2010, 05:23 PM
I completely agree, it is not about having the best players, it is about having a set of players that works. Surely having messi and ronaldo helps but that alone won't make you a strong competitor, you need to have functionality. Just look at Brasil, they don't have as many big names as they could or even as many as other teams, yet they are almost unanimously considered favorites to this cup. On the other hand, argentina has practically nothing but big names yet no one has any hopes for them. That is one of the main reasons for which I don't think there is a significant difference between the usual top rated teams in the WC (England, Spain, Argentina -any other year, not this one-, Germany, Italy, Brazil and somewhere along them portugal, cote de ivore, holland and perhaps france every now and then). The only disappointment about the WC is that there are no surprises, its always the same teams that win.

L0ki
June 13, 2010, 05:44 PM
I don't know if you check out European national teams. Germany lost the last European Championship against Spain (consider that championship on world level)

That was 2 years ago. I was taking into consideration more recent performances, like that friendly match they lost against us.


the best eleven always win against the eleven best

I like this one better:

"Soccer is a game for 22 people that run around, play the ball, and one referee who makes a slew of mistakes, and in the end Germany always wins."

eni
June 13, 2010, 08:52 PM
Hm, I wouldn't underestimate Japan, sindergi. They generally suck but they qualified afterall along with the Korean teams. I'd say they're on the same level as Cameroon, so that match isn't to be decided before seeing both teams in action.

My winner estimation for tomorrow would be:

* Holland (they have the better licorice)
* Japan (can't decide on skills level, so rooting on bishie factor)
* Italy (they cheat their way through)

:amuse

kkck
June 14, 2010, 12:19 AM
Nah, japan invariably sucks... Its not like they have benji price, tom misaki, oliver atom and steve hyuga on their teams (captain tsubasa reference BTW). Overall, asia football is no less than terrible... Japan does not have enough technique to be able to hold that over Cameroon... In turn, I'd bet Cameroon has the physical condition to outlast the Japanese easily.

goldb
June 14, 2010, 07:15 AM
Netherlands vs Denmark is quite dull at the moment, I was expecting the dutch to have more flair but it seems without Robben in the starting line-up their game really suffers.

You know what guys, I can actually see Ghana, Cameroon and Ivory Coast all qualifying for the next rounds; the african teams have really improved these last few years, they have so many european players and experience. In group G, I'm not sure Brazil will have an easy time, Portugal aren't that good but they could cause an upset.

blai
June 14, 2010, 07:19 AM
Overall, asia football is no less than terrible

South Korea isn't in Asia?...

goldb
June 14, 2010, 07:34 AM
Before Germany played last night, I was most impressed by South Korea, so they are the exception to the Asian mediocracy in football. Netherlands jsut scored straight after the restart; own goal my the left back Polssen.

kkck
June 14, 2010, 09:13 AM
South Korea isn't in Asia?...

Sure it is, and it also happens to be just awful at football...

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 09:21 AM
Bahhh, I had more expectations for Netherland, but was a good game..

Now, lets see Italy.. My predictions is Italy 2 - Paraguay 1

sindergi
June 14, 2010, 09:22 AM
For me, Netherlands failed to live up to (my) expectations.
I was a little bit disappointed by the game - maybe they will play better when Robben is back.......

kkck
June 14, 2010, 09:27 AM
For the the netherland game went roughly as I thought it would... In the prediction chart I made for this phase of the cup I had netherland winning 2-1 so 2-0 was kinda better than what I thought....

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 09:43 AM
:blink :o Japan is winning 1-0???

Common Eto!!!!

kkck
June 14, 2010, 09:55 AM
So... who do you see winning in the japan-cameroon match? I Have right now cameroon winning 1-0.... IMO both teams are terrible but cameroon should have better physical condition and Eto is a great player....

Edit: DAMN! Just noticed japan scored lol...

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 10:02 AM
So... who do you see winning in the japan-cameroon match? I Have right now cameroon winning 1-0.... IMO both teams are terrible but cameroon should have better physical condition and Eto is a great player....

Edit: DAMN! Just noticed japan scored lol...

Jajajajajaja, yes am not watching the game because I am working :notrust but I am watching www.fifa.com, and I can not believe it.

Camerun is a great team, they should win this match..

kkck
June 14, 2010, 10:09 AM
I am at work too which sucks... why can't this be a regular country where the entire economy is placed at halt for the sake of the WC....

I don't really consider cameroon great though.... I think both teams are about as bad, cameroon just happens to have better physical condition. If they manage to make this a game of resistance then I don't think japan should hold out very long.

Googlez_kun
June 14, 2010, 10:20 AM
Quite a boring game...Cameroon is even weaker than i thought.Let's see how many more goals Japan will make...

kkck
June 14, 2010, 10:22 AM
Well, it is certainly not an all star game, it is bound to be bad... Still, it's the world cup, a time to neglect any plausible world event for the sake of 21 days of non stop football even if the game in question is basically of teams which have no business whatsoever in the WC....

Akainu
June 14, 2010, 10:29 AM
Quite a boring game...Cameroon is even weaker than i thought.Let's see how many more goals Japan will make...
guess not that many, they're quite lousy themselves and the goal was everything else than a show of japanese strength :s...

sindergi
June 14, 2010, 10:39 AM
Im at work too, but we have television in each office :) ..... But i agree this is not à highclass Match .......

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 10:47 AM
Well, for me Camerun is the best African team in this cup.. If we look their line-up, they had several players playing in the Italy, England, Spain, German, France League..

I was expecting more of them..

Ohh this week :) .. Finally we will see the big ones.. Italy, Portugal, Spain, Brazil!!!!

eni
June 14, 2010, 11:01 AM
Nah, japan invariably sucks... Its not like they have benji price, tom misaki, oliver atom and steve hyuga on their teams (captain tsubasa reference BTW). Overall, asia football is no less than terrible... Japan does not have enough technique to be able to hold that over Cameroon... In turn, I'd bet Cameroon has the physical condition to outlast the Japanese easily.
http://i48.tinypic.com/5medmg.jpg


That match was half/half, partly it was utterly boring but on the other hand it was entertaining in its own little way. I was good laughing while watching. Some scenes were just hilarous, they were frequently stumpling over each other :XD

destiny4ever
June 14, 2010, 11:07 AM
The game I have been looking forward to today is going to take place in a couple of hours. Italy vs. Paraguay. While I’m rooting for Italy because he is the defending champion and he is one of the strong teams in the cup, Paraguay did an amazing job in Copa America so it’s hard for me to decide which team I want to be the winner of the match...I really think a very interesting game awaits for us.

kkck
June 14, 2010, 11:13 AM
Paraguay might have done ok in that cup but I don't think they are all that a good team.... Among the mediocre teams in south america, I don't think they even make it to the top half. I guess they are not bad enough that they don't even have a chance of putting a good game though.... I do want to see italy massacre them....

destiny4ever
June 14, 2010, 11:20 AM
Since I have a thing for the underdog and since I do support teams from Latin America (especially South America), I admit I was undecided before but after reading your comment (reading it made me realize that no matter from where I look at it, Paraguay is the underdog in this match) I’ve made up my mind, I’m going to support Paraguay. Italy is the strongest team without a doubt but…in soccer sometimes surprises can happen so I hope Paraguay doesn’t lose horribly against Italy and if they win, even better.

kkck
June 14, 2010, 11:33 AM
As I said before, the only joy of the initial face of the WC for me is seeing big teams winning by large margins against small teams-germany australia was just beautiful for me.... It is true surprises can arise in a WC every now and then.... Who'd thought just the last WC (of which I saw almost every game) a team like ecuador would win 3-0 and 2-0 against costa rica and poland... Even more, who'd thought they'd have the english fall to the ground and barfing out of sheer exhaustion. The english did win with a free kick although I don't think they would have pulled of a victory if they had not break the tie and the match would have continued to extra time.

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 11:35 AM
Common, Paraguay mediocre??

They did even better than Argentina in the qualifiers.. This should be a great Match..!

destiny4ever
June 14, 2010, 11:42 AM
In the SA qualifiers, if I remember correctly, Paraguay was tied in second place with Chile with 33 points. It was first Brazil, then Chile, then Paraguay, then Argentina (with 28 points).

Even if Italy is the strongest team, I still think Paraguay will be a worthy opponent of the defending champions.

kkck
June 14, 2010, 11:42 AM
Common, Paraguay mediocre??

They did even better than Argentina in the qualifiers.. This should be a great Match..!

I guess doing better than argentina is good considering maradona's tactical genius.... Oh, wait:p....I don't think paraguay is significantly different from the average in south america in general... At least IMO there is not a significant difference between colombia, uruguay, chile, ecuador, paraguay and maybe venezuela.....

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 11:59 AM
I guess doing better than argentina is good considering maradona's tactical genius.... Oh, wait:p....I don't think paraguay is significantly different from the average in south america in general... At least IMO there is not a significant difference between colombia, uruguay, chile, ecuador, paraguay and maybe venezuela.....

Believe me, they are a hard team. They are way better than Colombia, Chile, Ecuador, etc, etc.. Am sure that you saw Francia-Uruguay, that was a boring match IMO.

In South America, Paraguay's style is very similar to Italy. They are a defensive team that use fast counterattacks

kkck
June 14, 2010, 12:16 PM
Believe me, they are a hard team. They are way better than Colombia, Chile, Ecuador, etc, etc.. Am sure that you saw Francia-Uruguay, that was a boring match IMO.

In South America, Paraguay's style is very similar to Italy. They are a defensive team that use fast counterattacks

Well, I guess paraguay is usually the one that follows brasil and argentina... Although, if we were to put them in tiers, I would not place them along with brasil and argentina (who under normal circumstances are easily very realistic candidates to win the WC), I don't think paraguay has a realistic shot at winning the cup, hence I usually think of them of being just marginally better than the mediocre teams in SA.

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 12:45 PM
Oh no no... I dont think that they have a chance to win this cup of course, and I dont think that they will win this game against Italy...

I'm just saying that this will be a very interesting game, and will not be like the game of Germany vs Australia.

Italy will win 2x1

kkck
June 14, 2010, 12:48 PM
Ôn that much I agree lol... Not sure what to think about the final scoring though, I initially thought italy would win 2-0 but I have been having discussions and people around me have leaned towards a tie (0-0)... I want italy to win though...

L0ki
June 14, 2010, 02:22 PM
In the qualifiers a.k.a “Copa America”, if I remember correctly, Paraguay was tied in second place with Chile with 33 points. It was first Brazil, then Chile, then Paraguay, then Argentina (with 28 points).

Fail, SA qualifiers are just called SA qualifiers. Copa America would be the equivalent of the Eurocup.

Paraguay is not weak, they're like Italy. Their football is ugly as shit but they get results. Like what they're getting right now.

Koen
June 14, 2010, 02:31 PM
Watch out for chile, they will be underestimated and they have some technical players.

Wigan has done a great transfer. I know the scorer of Paraguay. He's the defender who played three years for my team. I don't agree that they called him a man-on-man defender, he's the defender that plays a lot

destiny4ever
June 14, 2010, 02:31 PM
Fail, SA qualifiers are just called SA qualifiers. Copa America would be the equivalent of the Eurocup.
Thank you for correcting that and for fixing my terrible mistake and huge misunderstanding. Either way, both in the Copa America and in the SA qualifiers Paraguay did play well and the results they got are proof of that.

So the first time has ended and Paraguay is winning…the next half of the game will be even more aggressive...I wonder what team will the next one to score a goal...

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 02:34 PM
Well, Well, thank god that I didnt bet in this game...

They need Gattuso, Pirlo and Camoranesi in their line-up..

Asclepius
June 14, 2010, 02:34 PM
Who cares who's the best? Italy has the most handsome players in this cup!!!

OK OK, seriously, who changes the goalkeeper in halftime when he is not injured? Odd. Well, maybe he got injured during heating up for second half...
Hard to guess the score. I will bet on a tie: 1 X 1

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 03:22 PM
I cant believe that Italy is the actual champion... -.-

What a disappointment...

destiny4ever
June 14, 2010, 03:35 PM
…in soccer sometimes surprises can happen so I hope Paraguay doesn’t lose horribly against Italy and if they win, even better.
I’m happy that Paraguay didn’t lose horribly against Italy, played well and showed that they are actually a team that shouldn’t be underestimated. I was sad that Villar’s mistake cost his team the opportunity of actually winning the game. But good Paraguay, you did well, at least IMHO.

And on a happier note and since this is the World Cup thread….

So cute and cool at the same time. :)

Cute Animal World Cup - Song Waka Waka (This Time for Africa) by Shakira (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWubfMkDfVs)

Koen
June 14, 2010, 03:44 PM
I cant believe that Italy is the actual champion... -.-

What a disappointment...

It didn't surprise me...

1. Pirlo is injured and imo he is a key player
2. In Brussels Italy was nothing in a friendly match
3. In Switzerland Italy was close to nothing in a friendly match

furthermore Paraguay did quite good in the South-American preliminaries. A lot of people are overestimating Italy. I think they have a chance to get in the second round but they'll definitely won't make it further

Evil3ye
June 14, 2010, 03:46 PM
I cant believe that Italy is the actual champion... -.-

What a disappointment...
True. I expected much much more from Italy aswell, but Holland did not show a good performance either IMHO. Hope Spain will live up my expectations. Same for Portugal and Brazil (which's the match I'm looking forward the most from the groups.. ohw yeah Por-Bra will be hawt:P I hope ))

Akainu
June 14, 2010, 03:50 PM
The contrast between NL winning and Italy ending the match in a tie? the latter was actually entertaining (imo of course). Denmark wasn't bad, but scoring a goal against the favorite team is a whole diffrent quality and disturbing their gameplay even more so ^^

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 03:57 PM
True. I expected much much more from Italy aswell, but Holland did not show a good performance either IMHO. Hope Spain will live up my expectations. Same for Portugal and Brazil (which's the match I'm looking forward the most from the groups.. ohw yeah Por-Bra will be hawt:P I hope ))

Yes, the match betwen Portugal and Brazil is the BEST match in this round..

I'm portuguese so, I will cheer Portugal
[hr]

It didn't surprise me...

1. Pirlo is injured and imo he is a key player
2. In Brussels Italy was nothing in a friendly match
3. In Switzerland Italy was close to nothing in a friendly match

furthermore Paraguay did quite good in the South-American preliminaries. A lot of people are overestimating Italy. I think they have a chance to get in the second round but they'll definitely won't make it further

True, in the Last WC, Italy started bad as well, but what happen then?? World Champions :D

L0ki
June 14, 2010, 04:06 PM
Yes, the match betwen Portugal and Brazil is the BEST match in this round..

Brazil plays a defensive style, Portugal has only 1 good player. Spain-Chile is the most promising match of the first round, hands down.

http://twitter.com/thevuvuzelahorn

kkck
June 14, 2010, 04:09 PM
NOOOO!!! Can't believe italy tied.... the horror..... I expected a better performance from the current champions...

Evil3ye
June 14, 2010, 04:10 PM
http://twitter.com/thevuvuzelahorn:rofl

Spa-Chi sounds promissing as well, yeah. I'd say Spain wins 2:1 though.

DanielKnoT
June 14, 2010, 04:13 PM
Brazil plays a defensive style, Portugal has only 1 good player. Spain-Chile is the most promising match of the first round, hands down.


Brazil plays a defensive style??? Is the first time that I ever see a comment like that about Brazil.. :blink

Portugal has only 1 good player?? You mean C.Ronaldo? No, no, no..
What about Pepe, Simao, Tiago, Deco, Danny? Portugal has a good team this year..

Both teams, plays a beatiful and offensive futbol.

sindergi
June 14, 2010, 04:34 PM
Brazil plays a defensive style??? Is the first time that I ever see a comment like that about Brazil.. :blink

Portugal has only 1 good player?? You mean C.Ronaldo? No, no, no..
What about Pepe, Simao, Tiago, Deco, Danny? Portugal has a good team this year..

Both teams, plays a beatiful and offensive futbol.

In the past they did not, but did you see the last games since Dunga is the coach ?? Now they play a much more defensive style and a lot of brazilian people criticize Dunga for this change of the system......but for Dunga the result is more important than to play a beautifull football.....similar to the Italian-Style.
A few brazilian journalist even said that brazil did no more play like brazil, but rather play now like Germany (they meant it in a bad way)....

kkck
June 14, 2010, 04:58 PM
Brazil plays a defensive style??? Is the first time that I ever see a comment like that about Brazil.. :blink

Portugal has only 1 good player?? You mean C.Ronaldo? No, no, no..
What about Pepe, Simao, Tiago, Deco, Danny? Portugal has a good team this year..

Both teams, plays a beatiful and offensive futbol.

Thats the good old brasil that did not win stuff(it is within my understanding most of the times brasil has won has they have used a defensive football).... Don't you read the news lol.... Dunga has been getting extreme criticism not only because the current brasil team does not have an ounce of their traditional "jugo bonito"... Not only that, Dunga has shown clear distaste for that.... Didn't you find it strange ronaldinho was not in the team? There is a reason for that (I don't think brasil is missing anything by not having him though)

Portugal is a first class team IMO, even if not as much as other strong teams I do think they are among the teams that have a decent chance of winning the cup in general....

Saintz0r
June 14, 2010, 05:04 PM
Paraguai has a very decent team imo, i'd rate them more or less in the same level as Usa. We had two losses in the eliminatory, one of them was against Paraguai :P And you shouldn't forget that Cabanas ( aka, the dude who completely trashed my Flamengo in Maracana back in 2008 :facepalm ) took a bullet in the head and won't be able to play the WC. That's a major problem for them

Netherlands till now is the team that made me most worried, Germany was awesome but they were playing Australia and Italy reminds me of Milan currently, I don't think they'll get past the quarter finals.

Ghana is the best african team by far till now, Ivory Coast could go far, but got bad luck in the group draws, i'm thinking they'll be out by sunday.

Brasil is really based on defense and counter-attacks since Dunga became the coach, and we're quite good at it*. In that friendly with Portugal that they were attacking like crazy, we managed to win by 6x2 :D I pity Spain if our paths happen to cross.
*that doesnt mean i like it, i'd rather see a team like 82, even if we lost that cup

Pirulito
June 14, 2010, 07:12 PM
C'mon, Saintz0r, my friend! Paraguay is way better than USA.

I didn't watch the game but it surprised me Paraguay could tie today. I, obviously, was expecting a victory. Italy is mediocre since 2006 - they didn't deserve that title - and the team of 2006 is better than the current one. The only thing Italy has now is tradition. And it's the only thing that can help Italy to go further in this World Cup


My bet is the same yet. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1701835&postcount=2138
) Paraguay will be the first in group F.

kkck
June 14, 2010, 07:28 PM
I agree, paraguay is better than USA.... USA is average IMO... I think the greatest thing it has is structure but overall it lacks good enough players to be a top team...

Bugzee
June 14, 2010, 11:03 PM
First Green screws himself over and then Chaouchi (Algeria's GK) "attempts" to parry a shot away from goal with his shoulder...wtf. Algeria had the better chances to seal the game with a win but they stupidly gifted Slovenia a very EASY free goal imo.

Netherlands 2-0 Denmark - was an ok game. Not terribly exciting tbh. I can't see neither them getting far in this WC. \o/

Japan 1-0 Cameroon - I thought Cameroon would be the victors of this game; they played shit in the end. Webo had one of the best chances to get a goal back for Cameroon; it's ashame that his superb effort hit the damn cross bar. :darn I have feeling that the Netherlands Vs. Japan game will be an exciting one to watch. *Hopefully* I say 3-2/2-3. XD

Italy 1-1 Paraguay - Officially the worst game so far...gawd the first half went soooo slow. :bored I didn't think Italy would come back. Oh well. I wonder whether the game between New Zealand and Slovakia will be any better. :oh

I can't wait to watch the other two games that will be on today. :dance

Ivory Coast Vs. Portugal - Should be a good game. Mmmm. I say 1-2/2-2

Brazil v North Korea - I'm hoping the Brazilians do one better than the Germans did. :XD

Koen
June 15, 2010, 01:13 AM
Italy 1-1 Paraguay - Officially the worst game so far...gawd the first half went soooo slow. :bored I didn't think Italy would come back. Oh well. I wonder whether the game between New Zealand and Slovakia will be any better. :oh


Have you seen France vs Uruguay? Imo, that's the worst game so far. That match had nothing.

Italy - Paraguay wasn't a nice match either but playing was tough because of the heavy rain and during some moments (I said some moments) I saw some nice midfield combinations from both sides. The boring about this game was the constant midfield play and the fact that both teams always ended up screwing up their attack.

goldb
June 15, 2010, 07:06 AM
I'm watching New Zealand vs Slovakia, what an exciting match(!) you guys need to watch it right now -_-. Today's later matches could have some of the best football we've seen so far. Can't wait to see what Brazil bring to the table.

I can't believe Cameroon lost yesterday, I'd put most of the blame on the coach Paul LeGuen, why did he play Eto'o, his best player on the right? but credits to the japanese, they really battled for that 1-0 victory, some very good performances from a few of their players, especially the defense.

Saintz0r
June 15, 2010, 07:21 AM
I'm watching New Zealand vs Slovakia, what an exciting match(!) you guys need to watch it right now -_-. Today's later matches could have some of the best football we've seen so far. Can't wait to see what Brazil bring to the table.

I can't believe Cameroon lost yesterday, I'd put most of the blame on the coach Paul LeGuen, why did he play Eto'o, his best player on the right? but credits to the japanese, they really battled for that 1-0 victory, some very good performances from a few of their players, especially the defense.

At least it's better than Algeria x Slovenia :XD
Well, Eto'o recently have been playing in that position in Inter, maybe it's his choice.

I'm really excited about today's matches, Portugal x Ivory COast should be good since it'll likely be a battle to see who gets 2nd place :p

DanielKnoT
June 15, 2010, 08:46 AM
Well, the game is over.... Not an important game..

Now, I will escape from my work and watch Portugal :tem

Googlez_kun
June 15, 2010, 09:52 AM
Portugal vd. Cote D'Ivoire is quite an aggressive game,but no goals.

goldb
June 15, 2010, 10:02 AM
At least it's better than Algeria x Slovenia :XD
Well, Eto'o recently have been playing in that position in Inter, maybe it's his choice.

I'm really excited about today's matches, Portugal x Ivory COast should be good since it'll likely be a battle to see who gets 2nd place :p

Well that's cos at Inter Milito was playing centre so thats understandable but at Cameroon?? come on now, no offence to their front players but he really should have been bang down the middle.

Not much has happened in Portugal vs Ivory Coast; apart from Ronaldo's shot, it's been pretty agressive. Hopefully the 2nd half will be more daring and free flowing.

Googlez_kun
June 15, 2010, 10:04 AM
Drogba is getting ready \o/

The game seems to be getting more offensive.

kkck
June 15, 2010, 10:33 AM
GO new zealand! Can't believe they tied in the last minute.... In a competition I have about guessing the scores that tie got me ahead lol (I guessed the exact score and result)... WIth portugal it seems I will guess the result yet not the score but I still get points for that lol

goldb
June 15, 2010, 10:50 AM
I can't believe there's gonna be another draw. I had high expectations of this game, I guess it's now off to Brazil to show some magic. We really haven't seen much of in this World Cup so far.

Googlez_kun
June 15, 2010, 10:53 AM
What a lame game,even thogh the end was kinda interesting.Really dissapointed in this one,thought there would be more.

DanielKnoT
June 15, 2010, 10:54 AM
OHHHH C´mon Portugal... :mad

Not goals? :notrust

Well, I have to say that was a good game, even if was a tie 0-0. At least was better than Francia-Uruguay..

Drogba was looking good, even with his injure

eni
June 15, 2010, 10:54 AM
I guess it's now off to Brazil to show some magic.

Yeh, if they manage to loose against North Korea it can only be because of some evil Voodoo magic >.>

kkck
June 15, 2010, 11:17 AM
Meh, I thought the portugal game was going to be more interesting... I predicted they would tie 2-2.... I will try to make sure to post my remaining predictions for the matches today lol.... Other people should do the same....

DanielKnoT
June 15, 2010, 11:23 AM
Ok, brazil will play against one of the worst teams in this Cup..

Brazil 3 - 0 North Corea

goldb
June 15, 2010, 11:26 AM
Here's my prediction for today's remaining game:

Brazil 2- 0 North Korea. I was thinking of going with a higher score but that ball is really tricky and I don't think even Brazil will have an easy time.

Asclepius
June 15, 2010, 11:28 AM
Brasil 2 X 1 North Korea

And sexy Kaká and Júlio Cesar for 90 minutes
:woot

3c
June 15, 2010, 11:29 AM
Portugal.... WTF were you doing!? I'm so dissapointed, if only Ronaldo's super shot at the 10th minute would have gone in :bored

Brazil will squash North Korea. I'm really hoping for a goal fest, 5-0! They deserve to be squashed saying things like "we will win against Brazil", I've never heard such arrogance before.

Saintz0r
June 15, 2010, 11:31 AM
Brasil 4x0 North Korea

Tomorrow games:
Honduras 1x3 Chile
Spain 2x0 Helvetia
South Africa 2x0 Uruguai

( Yes, I'm hoping to see some goals from now on :XD)

kkck
June 15, 2010, 11:31 AM
I have brazil winning 4-0 against korea.... I don't think south africa will win against uruguay though, that one has a tie feel to it....

Saintz0r
June 15, 2010, 11:41 AM
I have brazil winning 4-0 against korea.... I don't think south africa will win against uruguay though, that one has a tie feel to it....

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a draw, but I'm hoping that S.Africa will make it to the eights, so I'll bet in them :amuse
France x Mexico is another game that smells like a draw

goldb
June 15, 2010, 11:46 AM
Honduras 1-2 Chile
Spain 3-0 Switzerland
South Africa 1-1 Uruguay

I think South Africa could win that game if the crowd really spurs them on, but Uruguay have enough experience in their team to deal with any problems the South Africans could pose.

kkck
June 15, 2010, 11:50 AM
I honestly have no faith in south africa but they are playing at their home field and generally the host does make it to the 8s...

goldb
June 15, 2010, 12:14 PM
Yeah that's also what I'm basing my prediction on. you can usually expect host nations to get quite far and it'll be good for the tournament for South Africa to get pas the group stages but I think France and Uruguay will be too much for them in the end.

Evil3ye
June 15, 2010, 12:25 PM
zomg Por ended goalless in a draw. what the hell happend again? *took a nap*

So this makes me predict only a 1:0 victory for Brazil, even if I almost feeling like this'll end in a draw as well... group rounds this year are totally no fun ;/

Bugzee
June 15, 2010, 12:28 PM
Have you seen France vs Uruguay? Imo, that's the worst game so far. That match had nothing.

Did I watch the french game? Yes. It was a tad better than the Italian game imo. Both of those games were crap...lol.



Italy - Paraguay wasn't a nice match either but playing was tough because of the heavy rain and during some moments (I said some moments) I saw some nice midfield combinations from both sides. The boring about this game was the constant midfield play and the fact that both teams always ended up screwing up their attack.

The weather is no excuse. :p I love playing football in the rain.
What was Italy missing? Pirlo in midfield.
Paraguay should've held onto that one goal lead; they deserved the 3 points lol.



I'm really excited about today's matches, Portugal x Ivory COast should be good since it'll likely be a battle to see who gets 2nd place :p

Hey Saintz0r! Good to see you in the WC thread! :D
I missed the Portugual game. :scry

I can't wait for the Brazilian game to start. :onoz


Drogba is getting ready \o/

The game seems to be getting more offensive.

Googz! Where the hell have you been!? I haven't seen you online for ages! :XD

I'm glad that Drogba made it in time. So Fifa allowed Drogba to play with the cast over his hand, right? I think he'll definitely perform better in the next two games. :nod


Yeh, if they manage to loose against North Korea it can only be because of some evil Voodoo magic >.>

Brazil CANNOT loose no matter what! There shall be no excuses! :p


Ok, brazil will play against one of the worst teams in this Cup..

Brazil 3 - 0 North Corea

I say...5-0.


Brasil 2 X 1 North Korea

And sexy Kaká and Júlio Cesar for 90 minutes
:woot

Hey Asclepius!

Are they the only two sexy players for Brazil iyo? :blink
I'm sure there'll be loads of hot brazilian girls in the stands cheering, dancing and waving...:hearts Samba!!! No Ronaldinho. :s

Googlez_kun
June 15, 2010, 12:28 PM
Whom is Brazil playing?

Anyway,i hope Brazil brings in some magic and serves us some splendid eyecandy.

Bugzee
June 15, 2010, 12:30 PM
Baka! They're playing North Korea. :yelling

It's going to be a great game. Joga Bonito~

The Archangel
June 15, 2010, 12:32 PM
That was pathetic, the third ranking team vs the one on the 27th spot and a draw is the best they can do?

The only time they didn't lose the fucking ball was when they passed it to the back, every other time it resulted in a counterattack!

Googlez_kun
June 15, 2010, 12:33 PM
Oh right:XD

North Korea is rather weak,so i predict that there will be a lot of goals,but the latest events prove me wrong i guess...

Saintz0r
June 15, 2010, 12:56 PM
Sup Jin!Hopefully it'll be an awesome game. Either way I'm going to the bar right now, see you guys later.
Archangel, if Ivory plays this defensive against us, we'll have trouble too. It's pretty normal =b

Imperium
June 15, 2010, 01:10 PM
Finally found the video for it, this happened before the cameroon game. Top class bbc sports coverage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFFYnf2Hck&feature=player_embedded). :rofl

goldb
June 15, 2010, 01:33 PM
HAHAHA, yeah I watched that live :rofl! I could not believe it, plus I knew it would ring again when he put it on the table.

Akainu
June 15, 2010, 01:56 PM
so much for the lots of goals... nk seems to have an iron wall in the back for now :s

goldb
June 15, 2010, 02:02 PM
I know. God, I was hoping for Brazil to be putting at least 3 past the Koreans but at this rate, we'll be lucky to see a 1-0 win. The way Korea are counterattacking, they can actually sneak in a goal.

Pirulito
June 15, 2010, 02:24 PM
Booooring.
My neighbourhood's team is better than N. Korea and, yet, Brazil didn't score. /facepalm
Plus, Brazil need more speed to invade Korea's defense. Felipe Melo and Gilberto Silva are very slow. I think Daniel Alves should enter.

eni
June 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
You have to admit, North Korea has a long tradition in creating walls and keep people off their space - and they show it :XD

Evil3ye
June 15, 2010, 02:57 PM
2:0 oh great. Good timing. I was about to turn off the TV just now..

eni
June 15, 2010, 03:20 PM
<eni> I wanna be funny and say 2:1 :D
:kukuku

Pirulito
June 15, 2010, 03:20 PM
Haha, that's true, eni.

Brazil played a little better on second half but still booriinng.

Asclepius
June 15, 2010, 03:20 PM
Brasil 2 X 1 North Korea

And sexy Kaká and Júlio Cesar for 90 minutes
:woot
HA! Cala boca MangaHelpers!!!!


Joking, joking. <3 MH.
:P
Gonna bet on lottery tomorrow ^_^

@Buggy: Daniel Alves is also cute.

Koen
June 15, 2010, 03:35 PM
What a boring game... First of all, why is Dunga playing with four defenders against a team that had only one "striker" (the guy was more on the midfield then elsewhere). Secondly, does he get angry when maicon and/or bastos are playing high because as soon as those two did it once or twice, they had to wait another 10 minutes before they did so again. Thirdly, Lucio should have played higher from the beginning. Though Korea had a wall, with good technical, fast play; the score could have been higher but well

Dunga's tactical play in mind, I didn't expect a walk over.

Bugzee
June 15, 2010, 04:33 PM
Sup Jin!Hopefully it'll be an awesome game. Either way I'm going to the bar right now, see you guys later.
Archangel, if Ivory plays this defensive against us, we'll have trouble too. It's pretty normal =b

Yo Saintz!
I'm cool, how's it going for you?

It was an alright game in the end. Forget my 5-0 prediction. :darn
You gotta give NK credit though; they were very organised at the back. Every time Brazil went on the counter, there were already like 8 NK players at the back blocking every path and making it extremely difficult for the Brazilians to get a shot in. Tae-Se Jong played really well and he had a great chance on goal. It was nice to see Robinho showing off a bit with his tribbling and what a perfect pass to Elano, hey? :)

Enjoy your time at the bar. :beer


Finally found the video for it, this happened before the cameroon game. Top class bbc sports coverage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFFYnf2Hck&feature=player_embedded). :rofl

hahaha. I missed that. I think he was about to say "Oh shit!" live on BBC. :XD


so much for the lots of goals... nk seems to have an iron wall in the back for now :s

Wouldn't you want to see NK Vs. Germany? I would. :D


2:0 oh great. Good timing. I was about to turn off the TV just now..

So true. :XD


HA! Cala boca MangaHelpers!!!!

Joking, joking. <3 MH.
:P
Gonna bet on lottery tomorrow ^_^

@Buggy: Daniel Alves is also cute.

Good luck. ^^
Hmmm. What about the NK team? Did they have any cute players iyo? :jk

kkck
June 15, 2010, 04:34 PM
I thought we'd see more goals but after seeing the actual game I can't really blame neither the team nor dunga. Who'd though korea would plant FIVE defenders near the goal? It's absurd, I thought at most there'd be 4.... Korea having 5 defenses plus a defensive midfield is pretty much insane, any team would have a hard time with that, specially if the other team also has a very defensive football. Korea did not go to that game with the intention of winning at all, they took brasils victory almost for granted. Instead, korea thought of minimizing damage and keep the game at a tie and save one point from the hardest game in their group. How uncharacteristically efficient from such communist warmongers, too bad it did not work....

eni
June 15, 2010, 04:42 PM
A certain amount of 'fun bashing' in sports threads is normal but a little careful with the wording, please.

Akainu
June 15, 2010, 04:55 PM
Wouldn't you want to see NK Vs. Germany? I would. :D

I'd like to see it, yes... too lazy to calculate, but I guess it would be somewhere in the finals ;P
Jokes aside, don't get me wrong on that one. I'm not saying the german team was so much better or anything, just that many people (me included) thought it would literally rain goals. (I know, looking at the stats, qualification and whatnot, but hey, it's Brazil after all).

Imperium
June 15, 2010, 05:07 PM
Who'd though korea would plant FIVE defenders near the goal? It's absurd, I thought at most there'd be 4.... Korea having 5 defenses plus a defensive midfield is pretty much insane, any team would have a hard time with that, specially if the other team also has a very defensive football. Korea did not go to that game with the intention of winning at all, they took brasils victory almost for granted. Instead, korea thought of minimizing damage and keep the game at a tie and save one point from the hardest game in their group. How uncharacteristically efficient from such communist warmongers, too bad it did not work....That is ridiculous. What were you expecting from them? To play open expansive football against one of the best teams in the tournament? They are one of the lowest ranked teams in the world cup, its perfectly reasonable for them to pack their defence against Brazil. The stark contrast in ability between the two teams is evident. Their coach was correct in doing what he did, this current Brazil team specialises in decisive counter attacks, by packing the defence your negating one of their major strengths by having a extra men to help the defence. If they had a bit more luck they might have sneaked a draw but still only losing by one goal when most expected them to lose by many more is praiseworthy. I hope they do well, not only because their underdogs but also as its their first world cup since 1966 and they had rotten luck being put into the hardest group. And besides to me it did not look like they played with 5 defenders, they seemed to play with 4 and a defensive midfielder...:p

xi0
June 15, 2010, 09:11 PM
I think it was Ally McCoist that brought up a decent point during the game regarding NK's effort. The NK team is so shut off from everyone else (much like their country), and with them having only 3 international players (2 in Japan, 1 in Russia fyi), they've probably been around each other more than any other national team. That has to account for something IMO, but I'm not sure it accounts for why Brazil couldn't score until the second half :s

cloud strife
June 16, 2010, 12:04 AM
Brazil seem weak!!! Dunga need to call Ronaldo and Ronaldinho

goldb
June 16, 2010, 03:50 AM
Today the Spanish play XD yay!!! I'm gonna be bumemd out if they win by a margin but more than that, I hope they play some amazing football. Though Iniesta and Torres are quite ready to start, I hope they don't risk them cos they're very important players and plus theyve got enough depth in their squad to do without them for the 1st game.

I don't even care who else is playing today, just Spain.

Saintz0r
June 16, 2010, 08:27 AM
Maicon is by far our best player, Robinho seems like the savior of our attack ( surprisingly! ) kaka and Fabiano were shitty! Hope they get better soon, we'll need them.

Chile made a good game right now, a shame they couldn't score more, maybe when Suazo comes back...

ps: Hondura's coach reminds me of Obama a little bit :XD

sindergi
June 16, 2010, 08:31 AM
Chile played really good but they should have made more goals.....they missed to many chances, they were sometimes to playful.

goldb
June 16, 2010, 08:41 AM
Chile were really good today, very good flowing football, had many chances to end the end quite early enough but some credits to Honduras for keeping it at 1-0.

Spain in a bit!!

DanielKnoT
June 16, 2010, 09:02 AM
Spain 3 - 0 Suiza!! I hope..

Why Torres is in the bench?

What a team Spain has.. They even have the luxury of leaving people like Torres, Fabregas, Albiol, Pedro, etc in the bench..

Evil3ye
June 16, 2010, 09:18 AM
2:0 Spain wins I say.
Looks boring so far though :headscratch

kkck
June 16, 2010, 09:57 AM
Brazil seem weak!!! Dunga need to call Ronaldo and Ronaldinho

Ronaldo was awesome back in the day but right now he is just old. I don't think he has what it takes to be in the brasil team. He has done well where he is right now but the truth is that he is not the player he was in his old days. A real shame....

I also don't think ronaldinho has a place in dungas team. Dunga plays a very defensive football while ronaldinho is a very offensive flashy midfielder. He seems to have recovered from his career rough patch but IMHO he is not really that indispensable to brasil. I don't think brasil lost anything by not having him. Brasil right now plays a defensive football which relies on counters.... How would brasil counter against a team which barely bothered attacking? For the most part korea had at least 9 players defending the goal.... The pace of the match made sense considering how defensive the system of both teams is. During this tournament, brasil will not just not show its traditional jugo bonito, it will show an open disdain for it and play remarkably uneventful games IMO. Thing is, those games will be won....

One Eyed Sharingan
June 16, 2010, 10:09 AM
Goal, SUISSE 1 - 0 SPAIN

now it'll get to be an interesting fight

sindergi
June 16, 2010, 10:09 AM
omg......1:0 for switzerland