Sasuke vs Rock Lee (pre-timeskip/rematch)

[ceasar]

Sasuke and Rock Lee had a unfinished fight in the beginning of naruto who would win if they fought again at chunnin exams.

[Prince Sasuke]

The gates would finish Sasuke off quickly. Sasuke has little to no chance of winning, unless he gets in a chidori.

[ninjabot]

Pretty much. Though, it's important to remember the prep time needed for Lee to open his gates.

Even then, Sasuke can't continue moving at Lee's unweighted speed too long, as he'll start getting tired. He'd have to connect with something real fatal, real quick.

[Rikudou King]

Sasuke's only chance is while Lee still has his weights on since he should be faster. Once Lee loses his weights, There's no way Sasuke will be able to defend against Lee's attacks while maintaining his own attack.

[Destined_One]

Sasuke's only chance is while Lee still has his weights on since he should be faster. Once Lee loses his weights, There's no way Sasuke will be able to defend against Lee's attacks while maintaining his own attack.

Didn't Lee Say Sasuke was as fast as he was without weights? Add to that his prediction abilities and Chidori, he has an advantage there. Lee's only option is to open more gates. However if this is the VoTe Sasuke, then three tomoe sharingan and CS2 is to much even for the gates. IMO One tail Naruto may have been faster than Lee with gates, and the only reason Sasuke couldn't follow him, was because the Kyuubi chakra moved interdependently.

[TeAm#7FoReVer]

It was Gai who said that while Sasuke was fighting Gaara (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/112/04/). However, he can not keep that speed for much time, he gets tired.

[Rikudou King]

Yeah, While Sasuke is as fast as Lee with the weights off, He doesn't have the stamina to keep it up. lee would tire him out in a battle of speed, Not to mention the greater physical force Lee would cause on him. That's why Sasuke's best chance is when Lee has his weights on, When Sasuke would be faster. Sasuke would then be able to put his Sharingan to best use and take Lee out before he could attack or activate the gates.

[ceasar]

Yeah, While Sasuke is as fast as Lee with the weights off, He doesn't have the stamina to keep it up. lee would tire him out in a battle of speed, Not to mention the greater physical force Lee would cause on him. That's why Sasuke's best chance is when Lee has his weights on, When Sasuke would be faster. Sasuke would then be able to put his Sharingan to best use and take Lee out before he could attack or activate the gates.

Yeah but as soon as lee saw things heading south the weights would come off and game over. The real question is if the sharingan can keep up with unweighted lee. It should that is what it is made for I believe it would but when gates start opening sasuke starts getting crushed.

[Weapon_X]

Lee would win this. The Lee that fought against Gaara, Sasuke would have no chance against that.

[Rikudou King]

Yeah but as soon as lee saw things heading south the weights would come off and game over. The real question is if the sharingan can keep up with unweighted lee. It should that is what it is made for I believe it would but when gates start opening sasuke starts getting crushed. Yeah, But taking the weights off take time and I honestly don't think Sasuke would give that to him. The Sharingan more then likely can keep up with an unweighted Lee, But it's Sasuke's body that may not be able to keep up at that speed, Thus it'll be the pre-chuunin exam fight all over again.


Lee would win this. The Lee that fought against Gaara, Sasuke would have no chance against that. Well, Since this is also the Sasuke that fought Gaara, They're somewhat on even ground.

[kkck]

Is this pre chidori sasuke? Lee would win... Sasuke is infinitely more versatile than lee but in turn he just cannot keep up. Sasuke after his training with kakashi would defeat lee though.

[Rikudou King]

Considering it's a rematch at the chuunin exam, Then it's the Sasuke after learning Chidori.

[ceasar]

Is this pre chidori sasuke? Lee would win... Sasuke is infinitely more versatile than lee but in turn he just cannot keep up. Sasuke after his training with kakashi would defeat lee though.

He could beat rock lee but it would be a stretch if he could get him before weights come off he is fine but if he gets him with weights off he can't. The only way sasuke could even manage to get lee is if his sharingan is working overtime. I mean seeing every path those bushy brows go.

[M3J]

Lee would win, no doubt. Pre-chidori Sasuke or post chidori Sasuke, Lee still has the victory. Before chidori training, Sasuke couldn't keep up with Lee's speed. Even if his Sharingan saw everything Lee did, his body wasn't fast enough to react, which is where Lee excelled. And this was with weights. Post chidori, both are equally fast, and Sasuke has a deadly technique, but that's if he can hit Lee. Even though he can move at the same speed, Sasuke gets tired more quickly than Lee.
Though, I just remembered, Sasuke can control chakra to increase his speed, like he did with his fight against Haku if I recall correctly. If he does this, he may be faster, and use tad bit less stamina. Not sure though.

But the way I see it, Lee is the winner in either case.

[Nicholas.Sama]

Lee would win the first fight.
Sasuke would win the second. Lee pretty much admitted that his speed was his only ace in the hole against Sasuke, that ace is now gone and Sasuke's Sharingan got even better.

[godofthesunn]

Lee would devastate Sasuke pre-time skip Even after his training and chidori. Lee was just an overall better fighter imo. In a physical fight Lee wins 100% and only if sasuke uses large ninjutsu or some ginjutsu will he be able to beat lee.

Lee wouldnt even need to open as many gates as he did to fight garra to beat sasuke. Maybe like 2 if ninjutsu was involved.

[ceasar]

Lee would win the first fight.
Sasuke would win the second. Lee pretty much admitted that his speed was his only ace in the hole against Sasuke, that ace is now gone and Sasuke's Sharingan got even better.

I don't know lee without weights and with gates probably move faster than sharingan can see let alone allow time for reaction. Maybe sasuke could try to close the gates by using his sharingan but that feat seems way out out of pre- timeskip sasukes league.

[Rikudou King]

It's true that Sasuke trying to handle a Lee who has release his gates would just be a repeat of their first fight, Only worst. That's why Sasuke's best and only chance is to take Lee out fast while he still has his weights on. with greater speed and the Sharingan's prediction ability, Sasuke should be able to Chidori Lee before he can counter.

[ceasar]

That only works if he is fighting lee with weights if lee comes in without them he can't stop him from using gates. Your taking a big leap if you think one attack would stop rock lee and that's what your betting on that and him being weighted. Lee beats sasuke decisively only chance for survival is sharingan and him predicting where to run next to avoid getting crushed by the primary lotus.

[Destined_One]

I don't know lee without weights and with gates probably move faster than sharingan can see let alone allow time for reaction. Maybe sasuke could try to close the gates by using his sharingan but that feat seems way out out of pre- timeskip sasukes league.

I think the gates are overrated due to how the anime portrayed it. Pre time skip the one tailed Naruto was just as impressive IMO, without a tail he was fast enough to keep Neji on his toes (Remembering that Lee trained to open so many gates just to defeat Neji). With the 1TK Naruto, Sasuke was able to see his movements and was only foiled by the unpredictability of the Kyuubi's chakra. Also even with gates, pre time skip Lee was slower than all of the elite jonin, so I find it hard to believe Sasuke's matured three tomoe sharingan could not keep up. Maybe his body? but after seeing how he stood his ground versus the Kyuubi enhanced Naruto, I would suggest otherwise.

If we grant Sasuke his CS2 Power, although relatively inexperienced with it, it drastically increased his physical capabilities, and would be another factor in the outcome.

Lastly, Sasuke has proven he can hit someone who is a lot faster than him. The difference here is Lee doesn't have a Raiton cloak. Even if the Sasuke post time skip is far more skillful. Sasuke as a rookie far outclasses Lee in terms of Natural ability & Skill.

[Eprst]

Sasuke would win - his sharingan had only one or two tomoes, in that life threatening situation it would open third tomoe. And then Sasuke could predict his movements. Plus don't forget about his hatred to his older brother it would give him power when he will be out of power, or make his chakra more sinister.

[Rikudou King]

That only works if he is fighting lee with weights if lee comes in without them he can't stop him from using gates. Your taking a big leap if you think one attack would stop rock lee and that's what your betting on that and him being weighted. Lee beats sasuke decisively only chance for survival is sharingan and him predicting where to run next to avoid getting crushed by the primary lotus. Lee always wear the weights, Even in a fight, So it's logical that he would start with them on in this fight. Lee may be strong offensively, But defensively he's weak. Lee's only advantage is speed and if the goes, Lee would have nothing to guard against any of Sasuke's ninjutsu. A single Chidori would end the fight.

[ceasar]

Lee always wear the weights, Even in a fight, So it's logical that he would start with them on in this fight. Lee may be strong offensively, But defensively he's weak. Lee's only advantage is speed and if the goes, Lee would have nothing to guard against any of Sasuke's ninjutsu. A single Chidori would end the fight.

What ok can sasuke defeat the gates of lee with the ability he displayed in his battle with gaara no. Sasuke with two tomoe and his speed and body at that time cannot beat rock lee. Sasuke any other time Vote after timeskip yes but at this level no.

[Rikudou King]

I stated earlier that Sasuke couldn't win the fight if Lee used the gates. Thus the reason I made sure to mention Lee having to have his weights on. A Lee with weights on means that Sasuke maintains the speed advantage and can use his two tomoe Sharingan to it's full potential. He'll be able to predict and hit Lee before Lee can make his move. Once Lee takes the weights off, They'll be equal in speed and Lee has the chance of wearing Sasuke out before Sasuke can hit him. And once Lee opens the gates, Sasuke will see him but won't be able to react to any of his moves. Out of the three scenarios, Sasuke's best chance is the first when the odds are in his favor. The second put most of the odds in Lee's favor and the third gives Lee all the odds.

[LnDRash]

I think the gates are overrated due to how the anime portrayed it.

Well... Gai could hardly keep up with the ~30% Chakra Kisame Clone, but once he opened gates the fight was over in an instant... so I would not say the gates are overrated :p

[ceasar]

I stated earlier that Sasuke couldn't win the fight if Lee used the gates. Thus the reason I made sure to mention Lee having to have his weights on. A Lee with weights on means that Sasuke maintains the speed advantage and can use his two tomoe Sharingan to it's full potential. He'll be able to predict and hit Lee before Lee can make his move. Once Lee takes the weights off, They'll be equal in speed and Lee has the chance of wearing Sasuke out before Sasuke can hit him. And once Lee opens the gates, Sasuke will see him but won't be able to react to any of his moves. Out of the three scenarios, Sasuke's best chance is the first when the odds are in his favor. The second put most of the odds in Lee's favor and the third gives Lee all the odds.

So given most odds rock lee beats sasuke. So you are agreeing with the statement if sasuke and rock lee fought at chuunin exam lee would win. If you have him winning two out of three then you should believe he would win overall.

[Rikudou King]

Yeah, Lee would win the majority of times. He's just too naturally fast for Sasuke to take and we basically already saw how having a difference in speed would turn the fight out.

[mattiaildivino]

lee with 5 gates would really own sasuke,even if sasuke used the cursed seal.not even gaara could deal with 4 gates lee,you can imagine how sasuke would lose against 5 gates.

[M3J]

With the same power around chuunin exams? Rock Lee, easily. Sasuke wasn't fast enough to keep up with Lee.

If we're talking about around when Sasuke fought Gaara, it's still Rock Lee as he can last longer and increase his speed to ungodly mode.

[ninjabot]

I don't think it was determined yet: does Lee start the fight still wearing his weights? If so, that's a different story. It's a given that Lee without weights is about twice as fast as Lee with weights. Maybe faster. And since Sasuke can move at that speed without having to take time to remove any weights it's possible he could speedblitz Lee right then and there.

So I'm taking my vote back and giving it to Sasuke. As Lee tries to remove his weights Sasuke does what Lee did to Gaara and rushes around him, pelting him in the face and top of the head so many times he never gets the chance to remove them. He might even hit him with the Shishi Rendan to add insult to injury.