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GAT-X252
June 07, 2010, 11:04 PM
The chapter is out, you can get it here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8KJAQT04) or here (http://animeprodestiny.forumcommunity.net/?t=37751397&p=267350210)

Thanks to dragonnext.

Translation thread (http://mangahelpers.com/m/gantz/chapters/320/)

xInCasinoOutx
June 07, 2010, 11:53 PM
Has it been two weeks already?
Haha, my summer is flying by.

Interesting chapter.
Reminiscent of the holocaust films that the History channel shows from time to time and the ending scene of The Devil's Arithmetic.

I can't read Japanese, but the imagery alone is pretty damn disturbing.
Thanks for the raw.

Soldner Kei
June 07, 2010, 11:59 PM
That's a Lot of Naked People...

Really, This chapter is pretty creepy, poor Tae, being in that sort of situation really sucks... at least this chapter wasn't all "ah" "oh noes" "kei-chan" "oh shit my arms" "oh crap my girlfriend"... I'll be waiting the translation, the dialogue seems to be interesting Thanks a lot for the raw

cheers =)

Damura
June 08, 2010, 12:16 AM
Looks like Kurono's got 10-15 seconds to come up with a cunningly brilliant plan to locate Tae. Surely the aliens have a plan B for the clever few that made it onto the little platform.

Very good chapter, in my opinion. One of the best we've had in a while. Oku's been neglecting a lot of the main cast for a while now but you can't deny that he's doing a very good job with Kurono/Tae. I would have thought the people would be more inclined to try and hide their body parts, rather than stand about as normal though.

Kurono needs to act fast. Presuming that he got sent somehow to the same section as Tae he may have a chance, but if that acid destroys his suit and his gun, he's rather like, fucked.

Would anyone familiar with Japanese be able to explain to me what was said in the 'holding area' and specifically what the guy who saved Tae said? He seemed like a rapist to me...

Umbra Wolf
June 08, 2010, 01:55 AM
So they kill the humans. Kill them with a shot to the head and let them bleed out.


Either they use the bodies for scientific purposes or they are incredibly uneconomic.
Has anyone noticed a scheme how they choose the people brought to the mothership?

So far the aliens appear to be mustache twirlingly evil without much motivation and hey kill people for the heck of it. I hope they get at least something resembling a motivation.

@ Damura: I got a feeling that the guy who helps out Tae is really creepy. In hos first scene I had the feeling he was about to rape her as well.

GAT-X252
June 08, 2010, 02:16 AM
The young guy started to theorize why they brought there. sterilization? (terrestial bacteria may be dangerous to the aliens) it didn't make sense to kill them when they could have done it long ago. He thinks they are just war prisoners...and they could be sent to a prison camp.

Other guy told a story about a sparrow he had and how it died after he captured...he thought it died of fear and can't stop thinking what the giants are going to do to them.

The rapist dude didn't said anything...well when he touched tae and she asked what did he want, he said "Nothing...really..." and when he saved her he said "Follow me...".

Lastly, the flow of the water in the room started to get stronger making them to cross the room. the young dude said he would give a signal when he reached the next room...obviously he didn't make it.

102jayday
June 08, 2010, 02:19 AM
I thought that guy wanted to rape tae lol..i thought it was her father but i think he is dead. I like how that young guy acted like a leader then they all see him dead like a cow, I believe kurono will save tae but then because he would of attacked aliens in the mothership dock the blonde general alien will come and fight kurono.

Somnus
June 08, 2010, 02:24 AM
I bet the guy will rape Tae, he's far too interested in her. About the bodies, why the hell do they all have a cut in the chest ? Maybe the aliens are trying to collect human blood ? They can't collect it if they just smash and blow people up in the streets.

GAT-X252
June 08, 2010, 02:28 AM
Maybe they use them as food? or as fuel? i remember the Spielbergo version of War of the Worlds where the aliens used human blood to water their reed weed.

It could be that some people are sent to that place and other to a lab...

Damura
June 08, 2010, 03:56 AM
The rapist dude didn't said anything...well when he touched tae and she asked what did he want, he said "Nothing...really..." and when he saved her he said "Follow me...".

To me this guy looked similar to those 3 or 4 'leaders' that all looked alike (though in different stages of life - young, middle-aged, etc).

I think we can all agree nonetheless that there's something off about him. What kind of guy goes out of his way to save a stranger when the world's about to end? He's fucking crazy. 'Normal people' wouldn't do something like this. Oku doesn't have a lot of faith in humanity. Of course he could just be a rapist or something, but that seems kind of boring.

Sollum
June 08, 2010, 04:20 AM
That was a lot... of naked people... Its strange tho, why people are not... ummm... you know, what naked people do in front of each other... umm... oh yeah, being shy? (I caught you there pervert! >:])

I dont think that that guy is rapist, i mean look at Tae and the other chicks, personally i would like to spend my last moments as comfortably as i could, unless he is really strange... errr... "man".

By the way... how come humans have so much blood? Maybe they are somehow "modified"?

I bet that place is "farm", they came to earth to harvest some humans and:

Feed them -> Cut them -> Gather their blood -> Feed them and so on
And then they make wine out of their blood

SuperShuter
June 08, 2010, 04:43 AM
Wow looks like Oku doesn't censor anything he draws, how does he get away with it? I thought frontal nudity wasn't allowed or is it in the magazine he draws for. Good chapter, would of hoped it finished with kurono blowing off an aliens head. I wonder if were gona see naked Kuwabara style gantzing again ><

Damura
June 08, 2010, 04:46 AM
Maybe they use them as food? or as fuel? i remember the Spielbergo version of War of the Worlds where the aliens used human blood to water their reed weed.

It could be that some people are sent to that place and other to a lab...

Typical. The lower and middle class are whisked off to be slashed open and prepared as food, while residents of the more upper class areas celebrate comparative bliss, being 'investigated' with strange probes in a lab. There is truly no justice in the world.
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Wow looks like Oku doesn't censor anything he draws, how does he get away with it? I thought frontal nudity wasn't allowed or is it in the magazine he draws for. Good chapter, would of hoped it finished with kurono blowing off an aliens head. I wonder if were gona see naked Kuwabara style gantzing again ><

The human penises are censored. There's no detail in them at all - I checked! It's more like an outline of a penis.

cepillon
June 08, 2010, 06:27 AM
Hi!..

Spanish scan here ;

http://mangahelpers.com/s/akiba-kei-no-fansub/details/86085

Greetings!...

P.s ; If u are a international scanlator you can use our cleans..

hoi2009
June 08, 2010, 07:06 AM
2 of the links i also cannot open.

can someone provide a new link,THX A LOT

mrnet
June 08, 2010, 09:15 AM
i think that man maybe a vampire

Damura
June 08, 2010, 09:39 AM
i think that man maybe a vampire

ANY sign of the Vampire's would be nice at this point.

Panda
June 08, 2010, 10:18 AM
Well, I think most of us agree that we wont be seeing Nishi, the journalist, and the Gantz crew for awhile. The story is really starting to make twists and turns with the unknown man that saves Tae.
Perhaps the aliens expect a few people to survive. Also... if Kei used the H gun from within the ship, wouldn't the lower ceilings cave in from the origin of the blast?

Somnus
June 08, 2010, 10:19 AM
i think that man maybe a vampire

He doesn't seem normal for sure and his rape face doesn't help him. He could be an alien thought :blink if there were aliens disguised as humans before Catastrophe maybe they are also being affected by the invasion

CrYpTs
June 08, 2010, 10:32 AM
The humans are punctured in the forehead and hung to be bled.. It's like a slaughterhouse. (like what they do to pigs and cows) Seems to me that the aliens are here, not to conquer, but to hunt. They're here to either eat or skin humans. Why else would the aliens bring their own normal citizens and children aboard?

Here's my theory: Humans were genetically designed by the aliens millions of years ago and planted on earth just to come back and take their meat. They farm humans on earth since they die in captivity. And humans are a delicacy? This "hunt" has happened many times before..... and that's as far as my theory goes... I haven't thought much more of it, really..

did anyone else notice that guy talking about the captive bird dying holding his face like sebastion did?

GAT-X252
June 08, 2010, 10:42 AM
^

To be food or fuel.

If they just wanted to kill them for the sake of it then the soldiers could be the work just fine, no need of creepy showers.


Perhaps the aliens expect a few people to survive. Also... if Kei used the H gun from within the ship, wouldn't the lower ceilings cave in from the origin of the blast?

I doubt it, it probably has somekind of shield that prevents that just for the sake of it.

cassaruby
June 08, 2010, 11:47 AM
I felt the man may have been informed or recognized Tae. Maybe he had studied Kurono's picture and life. That would be interesting if he knew the reporter, Sebastian, the vampires or Kurono's leaders.

Also, did the first flow of the group really get picked up, poked & sliced within moments?

Ruhina
June 08, 2010, 12:18 PM
Wow... This chapter was all chill, until page 18 showed up. Then... blind panic!!!

Smart thing of Kei to do, but really, doesn't the aliens already have his face? It seems as if he's left his H-gun on the ground somewhere, so I'll assume he's going to fight with the X-pistol.

Merry Christmas sterilization personell! :P

GAT-X252
June 08, 2010, 12:22 PM
When he fell from the cage for the last time (319), the Z Gun fell next to him.

I doubt he doesn't have it right now.

SuperShuter
June 08, 2010, 12:30 PM
i think that man maybe a vampire

Thats a nice theory, if the man has shown this interest in her its most likley through her connection with kei, and it might be possible that he's been following her and got on the shuttle with her.

- if he's a vampire who is targetting her because of kei for revenge, he would have got her when she was seperated from kei

- the vampires might see kei as an ally now after the host samuria incedence and his helping him, which is sort of weak

- the vampires might be allied high up with this alien race and the vampire is specifically trying to bring her to the aliens because of kurono, as the blond seems one of their best soldier who has taken interest in him. Instead of getting the soldiers to distinguish her straight away the blond might be doing it in secret for his own personal interest and sent the agent undercover to bring her to him

- though the man may not be a vampire, and could be someone similar to sebastian, as the confidence sebastian showed right before the catastrophe suggests he is not allied with the humans. I think the organisation worships the ball and the numbers and are actually welcoming the aliens as their masters and don't care about the rest of civilisation

bassically I think this bloke is not good news for tae, as the gantz leaders didn't care about splitting gantzers up from their familey and freinds, and he has no other reason to care about a random girl and in his current situation i don't think rape in a hostile alien space ship is a higher priority in not being slaughtered

Charlie
June 08, 2010, 05:43 PM
This is another chapter I liked very much. Another emotionally charged page was seeing the human prisoners being hung up like cattle and being killed. Also noted the bullet like hole in the foreheads as someone else mentioned.

At this point, its hard to conjecture the motive behind this. Perhaps, it could be as Gat said about some-kind of food source. A very disturbing scene for me on those panels. I had also previously thought that the humans captured may be sold as pets. Their goes that idea out of the window. :p

Also, they could be selling human skin, parts or what have you, to their race. Almost like how we handle exotic animals or cattle and such. In theory, these giants could have some kind of black market infrastructure with willing participants. Who might be willing to dish out top alien cash, etc.



Looks like Kurono's got 10-15 seconds to come up with a cunningly brilliant plan to locate Tae. Surely the aliens have a plan B for the clever few that made it onto the little platform.


Not necessarily, I doubt they expects "bugs" or what they precise to be lower life forms to infiltrate such an area. So such places could have less than stellar security or guards.

The guy who saved Tae is a complete mystery to me. The way Oku seemed to empathize him (face on the close up) made me wonder, if there is more than meets the eye to this man.

Will have to wait and see. The next chapter is out on 7/1? So far away~.:(

Damura
June 08, 2010, 06:41 PM
He doesn't seem normal for sure and his rape face doesn't help him. He could be an alien thought :blink if there were aliens disguised as humans before Catastrophe maybe they are also being affected by the invasion

But why would an alien help.... omfg Tae WAS an alien this whole time! Fuck.
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The guy who saved Tae is a complete mystery to me. The way Oku seemed to empathize him (face on the close up) made me wonder, if there is more than meets the eye to this man.

He just approached a stranger in a holding cell in the nude. Came up behind her and grabbed her by the shoulder. Then he didn't have anything to say. Probably just embarrassed or ashamed or something.

Charlie
June 08, 2010, 07:17 PM
Well, I think most of us agree that we wont be seeing Nishi, the journalist, and the Gantz crew for awhile. The story is really starting to make twists and turns with the unknown man that saves Tae.
Perhaps the aliens expect a few people to survive. Also... if Kei used the H gun from within the ship, wouldn't the lower ceilings cave in from the origin of the blast?

I suppose it would make a hole where the gun was fired upon. How big will the effect of the weapon be? Most likely Kei wont do that, I think the damage will be too severe. He could use the sword perhaps. Then use the invisibility mode.



He just approached a stranger in a holding cell in the nude. Came up behind her and grabbed her by the shoulder. Then he didn't have anything to say. Probably just embarrassed or ashamed or something.

Yes, while this is true. Something felt creepy or strange other than the guy being naked and approaching Tae. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. :darn

tpspoons
June 08, 2010, 07:40 PM
Anyone know how many chapters are left? Since this is the last arc I'm assuming its not too many.

Friz
June 08, 2010, 08:09 PM
Wow what a chapter..
First of all, the creepy rapist-face. Of course, like many of you did, at first I thought that he was going to rape her. But, as Damura pointed out, the man looks familiar to the captain mustache or one of those other 7(?). Besides, why all the face close-ups? And, finally, GAT's translation of his response to Tae. Rapists usually sweet talk/lull their victims, right? It feels like he wanted to make sure it was her, that's why he touched her shoulder and, when she turned, had nothing to say to her.
Assuming he's one of the leaders, he could know that Tae was/is in the database..
What's the motive behind saving Tae or why is he here in the first place (if he indeed is one of the leaders)?
This may be a little off, but those people that are hanging feet up may be harvested for blood (remember daybreakers? http://hagiblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/daybreakers_001.jpg, maybe the invading aliens sell human blood to other races? I bet the vamps would protest that. The invaders are stealing their cattle.
And Kei should try using cloaking the second his cage door opens.

kanamechidori
June 08, 2010, 09:41 PM
Are you sure it's human blood?

What if it's "gantz liquid"

Like they came to gather, kill them and then take "gantz juice" and use it as a power source.

102jayday
June 08, 2010, 10:51 PM
i think that man maybe a vampire

I think the same, his got that look...but he looks in his 50s maybe his a vampire leader, if he is then he would know tae is kurono's girl friend from research somehow about kurono.

The guy is pretty smart, using the gap to sit on so he isn't dragged in.

he is strong too, for such a small space and the position his in his able to pick tae out of the water.

His face reminds me of the aliens...
He has the rape kind of look on him, but do you think his going force her to do things on that little space. First thing in brain would be how to escape out of here. not like his gonna be like, hey there is space over there lets f#$@ we've about to die so why not!

writing that made a thought come to my brain, this guy was in the same cage with tae, he would of noticed how kurono was breaking into the cage and before that when he jumped up and fall, the people said the guy died from that fall then saw him again jumping spiderman like on buildings.

my bet is this guy realises that kurono is his best bet to get outta there alive and knows that he looks like a bf to tae so his gonna stick around tae.

Cru
June 08, 2010, 10:59 PM
Creepy dude could be a vampire. Pretty sure some vampires got away during the Tae incident. I like the suggestion that he's working for Blondie's personal gain to lure T-Kurono.

I think the water and slaughter are weeding out yet another wave of weaklings. As if mechs, giants, monster dogs, and flying saws weren't enough selection pressure now we have a slaughterhouse preparing one of the finest selections of human specimens in the most 'humane' way possible.

I watched the scenes of hanging corpses and thought to myself, "Wow, that's good incentive to make the fittest of them swim for their life."

There's no telling what would become of the survivors of this trial though.. if any are intended.

I'm just glad Tae has been moved without dying because now I feel pretty assured that T-Kurono isn't going to die any time soon.

I hope that they show what R-Kurono is up to soon. I want both Kuronos to survive and win the genetic lottery in the post apocalyptic earth.
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writing that made a thought come to my brain, this guy was in the same cage with tae, he would of noticed how kurono was breaking into the cage and before that when he jumped up and fall, the people said the guy died from that fall then saw him again jumping spiderman like on buildings.

my bet is this guy realises that kurono is his best bet to get outta there alive and knows that he looks like a bf to tae so his gonna stick around tae.

Wow.. Tokyo U failed that exam. :D

kaliayev
June 09, 2010, 02:40 AM
Tokyo handler ftw. Nice to know he still has that creepy, naked dude vibe. The hair's there to mislead you.

nicobarten
June 09, 2010, 03:18 AM
Well, i guess the humans are just food for the aliens, just like pigs for us. First they got a shot or laser (whatever) in the forehead (kill quickly, no pain right?). Then some machine slice them open, to let the most of the blood out. Then you have fresh meat (well i guess the skin will come off too).

lutsurugi
June 09, 2010, 04:39 AM
I think the guy who's helping tae is the guy who was in the gantz ball o0

xi0
June 09, 2010, 05:03 AM
I think the guy who's helping tae is the guy who was in the gantz ball o0

That would be 100% plausible to me if it weren't for the fact that there hasn't been enough time for him to grow that much hair really.

lutsurugi
June 09, 2010, 05:34 AM
That would be 100% plausible to me if it weren't for the fact that there hasn't been enough time for him to grow that much hair really.

I thaught of that too but when he was in the ball, he had no hair at all, like, no eyebrows. maybe the growth of the hair was held up because he was in the ball and the fact that he got out, let them grow faster. it's gantz we're talking about :P

xi0
June 09, 2010, 05:40 AM
Well maybe he won't be Tokyo's Ball Operator but somewhere else?

And yeah, I suppose we are being too nitpicky :rofl

Judau Ashta
June 09, 2010, 06:33 AM
The dude got killed pretty fast. Why are the others taking longer to get killed?

Now I'm curious what effect the water will have on the gantz suit.

gantzaccount
June 09, 2010, 08:23 AM
Well, i guess the humans are just food for the aliens, just like pigs for us. First they got a shot or laser (whatever) in the forehead (kill quickly, no pain right?). Then some machine slice them open, to let the most of the blood out. Then you have fresh meat (well i guess the skin will come off too).

Yes, that's exactly what we do to cows and other animals in slaughterhouses. The sterilizing, single-head shot and the draining for blood all is there.

Looks like Oku is making the point the aliens are treating humans like meat or something similar.

Looks like Sebastian, or at least someone acting similar, is there as well. Maybe he's swapped bodies to watch things close up?

And the man with the pedophile mustache LOOKS like a creepy rapist, especially since Oku has often made a point about how people will be selfish creatures even in a crisis.

Uruner
June 09, 2010, 08:33 AM
"The Rapist guy"....I think it's the man from the gantz commanding team... here gantz 314 page 11 (http://mangahelpers.com/s/jide/readonline/75244/11) the one on the right... couse he was interested in kurono after seing 2 of him... here (http://mangahelpers.com/s/utopia/readonline/83311/7)... he might have looked info on Kurono.... trough it seems there wasn't enough time for it... not the same hair style...

so i guess i support the theory of him being vampire

xi0
June 09, 2010, 08:45 AM
But he could also just be a obsessive stalker/pervert, who exists solely to buy Kurono time to get to Tae. But I suppose that is sort of less interesting :imslow

Damura
June 09, 2010, 09:06 AM
The dude got killed pretty fast. Why are the others taking longer to get killed?

Now I'm curious what effect the water will have on the gantz suit.

This guy decided to take the lead. He wasn't afraid. He swam ahead while everybody else resisted the current. The place was huge and held prisoners from many different 'cages'. There was plenty of time for him to be killed and hooked up to the machine.

Simon Hurt
June 09, 2010, 09:15 AM
I bet the rapist looking guy is the time travelling alien and that's how he befriends Kei.
I just get this weird chibi alien vibe from him.

and he somehow looks too creepy for a vamp....

and the last pic with him giving her his hand and saying "Come with me (if you want to live)" was straight out of Terminator...

My money is on Kurono being 'John Connor' and the creepy dude is the time traveling terminator alien from gantz minus or some kind of 'Kyle Reese'.


Well, as long as we don't get a chapter full of Kurono repeating his own name and screaming "we're all dead" over and over again, I'm happy.


edit: I think the aliens drain their blood so the smaller aliens (like the chibis) can use the bodys
...like the cyborgs in terminator XD

Cio Koba
June 09, 2010, 09:15 AM
random thoughts;

-Great chapter, with lots of boobies
-The rapist, at least we got a new character for a few episodes, although i see him dying in a painfull way soon
-will the g suit disolve also? I bet Kurono gets really pissed if at night another transfer starts
-Poor tae i hope Kei saves her , she may not have big tits but she has a great ass..
-1 of july?? are u kidding me???

GPZrag
June 09, 2010, 09:40 AM
random thoughts;

-Great chapter, with lots of boobies
-The rapist, at least we got a new character for a few episodes, although i see him dying in a painfull way soon
-will the g suit disolve also? I bet Kurono gets really pissed if at night another transfer starts
-Poor tae i hope Kei saves her , she may not have big tits but she has a great ass..
-1 of july?? are u kidding me???
Was not TAE KILLED, last chapter?

abeyance
June 09, 2010, 10:08 AM
The new guy isn't a rapist, he probably knows Tae is Kurono's girl. He knows Kurono is coming to save her and hopes him as well for keeping Tae safe. That's what I would do in that situation. The biggest concern to me is weither or not the gantz suits can withstand the inorganic dissolving solution those aliens spray to melt clothes. I really think it will make Kurono more dangerous since he will be more desperate to survive without his suit ala past chapters.

topkomputer
June 09, 2010, 10:36 AM
They are sterilized for canned food. The new guy also with a mustache looks a little like the mustache guy from gantz team. I personally think this is a better chapter than previous two chapters, Oku give more information. And Tae isn't crying a lot anymore. The focus is on other prisoners as well.

cassaruby
June 09, 2010, 11:10 AM
I like the mustache man clone-family theory right now.

warbandit66
June 09, 2010, 02:12 PM
I think it's Izumi in another one of his disguises. He did claim to have a thing for Tae...

And yes Tae does have a surprisingly shapely rear.

Sollum
June 09, 2010, 03:33 PM
I have a questions, tho i dont know if its a proper thread to ask it

http://view.thespectrum.net/manga/Gantz/Chapter%20320/gantz_c320_004.JPG

Why are they telling "Which place is this?"

Isnt it supposed to be "What place is this?", shouldnt "Which place is this?" refer to the place where you have been before and you are trying to remember which place of those you visited before is this?

lutsurugi
June 09, 2010, 05:39 PM
I think it's Izumi in another one of his disguises. He did claim to have a thing for Tae...

And yes Tae does have a surprisingly shapely rear.

damn she has a nice ass ;)
but no, I really don't think that it's izumi at all.

kurono is pretty fucked up when that stuff melts away his suit :S


Was not TAE KILLED, last chapter?

ehm... NO?? o0

Damura
June 09, 2010, 06:35 PM
They are sterilized for canned food. The new guy also with a mustache looks a little like the mustache guy from gantz team. I personally think this is a better chapter than previous two chapters, Oku give more information. And Tae isn't crying a lot anymore. The focus is on other prisoners as well.

I think that the previous chapter needed a certain amount of crying involved. It worked well though in this weeks chapter for Oku to cut that shit out. I'm glad Kurono didn't need to say anything this chapter. It worked very well to leave him silent.

Charlie
June 09, 2010, 06:42 PM
The new guy isn't a rapist, he probably knows Tae is Kurono's girl. He knows Kurono is coming to save her and hopes him as well for keeping Tae safe. That's what I would do in that situation. The biggest concern to me is weither or not the gantz suits can withstand the inorganic dissolving solution those aliens spray to melt clothes. I really think it will make Kurono more dangerous since he will be more desperate to survive without his suit ala past chapters.

Could be correct abeyance. He could have figured that Kei is his best chance to survive.
Kei should be going stealth soon. I hope he manages to save Tae.


I have a questions, tho i dont know if its a proper thread to ask it

http://view.thespectrum.net/manga/Gantz/Chapter%20320/gantz_c320_004.JPG

Why are they telling "Which place is this?"

Isnt it supposed to be "What place is this?", shouldnt "Which place is this?" refer to the place where you have been before and you are trying to remember which place of those you visited before is this?

You're correct, but remember the scan was out in spanish then translated by the same team into english. So you cant really blame them, as it was out pretty fast. ;)
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I think that the previous chapter needed a certain amount of crying involved. It worked well though in this weeks chapter for Oku to cut that shit out. I'm glad Kurono didn't need to say anything this chapter. It worked very well to leave him silent.

I also liked how Kei had this seemingly cocky smile on his face, while the others we're all panicking over the situation. :p

el-chacal
June 09, 2010, 07:59 PM
the creepy guy is a takeshi from future. jaja

makra
June 09, 2010, 08:42 PM
I was hoping that would be ryu and not a rapist, still haven't seen either him or his girlfriend again

I personally believe (with the dude's sudden interest) that maybe it's sebastian changing appearances because he knows the kurono connection (referring to the gantz minus conclusion)

gnut
June 09, 2010, 08:59 PM
yeah charlie-san that look says a thousand words.he's about to rip shit up,he might not even give them a chance to spray him.just start bustin soon as the doors open.hellyeah!!

M.I.A
June 09, 2010, 10:03 PM
At first I thought he was going to rape her, but then I felt like it looke more like he thoughgt Tai was someone else, realised after he made her turn around, and decided to save her anyway cause she still sorta looks like whoever he was looking for> just my theory ^^

102jayday
June 10, 2010, 01:03 AM
At first I thought he was going to rape her, but then I felt like it looke more like he thoughgt Tai was someone else, realised after he made her turn around, and decided to save her anyway cause she still sorta looks like whoever he was looking for> just my theory ^^

I agree, Perhaps this guy is someone normal. Like you said, he could of thought she was someone else. If thats the case i bet it's some middle age man with a daughter around tae's age and she reminded him of her from behind. Then he decided to save her because shes around the same age of his daughter, that happens in a few stories but not this extreme.

xKhan
June 10, 2010, 01:07 AM
random thoughts;

-Great chapter, with lots of boobies
-The rapist, at least we got a new character for a few episodes, although i see him dying in a painfull way soon
-will the g suit disolve also? I bet Kurono gets really pissed if at night another transfer starts
-Poor tae i hope Kei saves her , she may not have big tits but she has a great ass..
-1 of july?? are u kidding me???

I agree with all of this.. dat ass =w= mmmm.. would tap vigirously o-o

Well mostly, rapist guy seems a lot more significant than just being the "rapist guy" o-o he has a ridiculous amount of confidence and is hella lax considering his situation. He must be very informed, maybe used to situations like this and a lot more intimately involved with dis than we currently know. Emphasization of the raep face is too much to pass off as simply a raep face ._. Finding her and saving her seemed to be his objective to me, not a coincidence.

Really liked this chapter, powerful imagery.. and booty o-o

edit:
The mistaking her for someone else and saving her based on similarities sounds like a valid theory but I really doubt this is just an average joe going with the flow. Him knowing about Kei coming sounds good as well, perhaps they'll meet up and blast some nikkah-aliens?

Also I don't think the clothes would be disintegrated.. I'm pretty sure the shields would prevent that - I mean the shields aren't a form of material and that stuff doesn't seem to be something that could get through that with force. IDK though, looking forward to next chaptah >xO

Soldner Kei
June 10, 2010, 02:59 AM
that guy must know her... or have a thing for flat girls with a nice ass...

and... "follow me"..? he must know what to do, maybe he isn't there for the first time... Kei infiltrating among the civilians was easy to see it coming, and i don't think the gantz suit would melt with that spray thing, because so would do the guns, and kurono would be pretty much dead without them.... but thats only my theory.... anyway, i hope that tae dosen't get raped or sumthing like that, it would really suck for her

lutsurugi
June 10, 2010, 04:37 AM
I was hoping that would be ryu and not a rapist, still haven't seen either him or his girlfriend again

I personally believe (with the dude's sudden interest) that maybe it's sebastian changing appearances because he knows the kurono connection (referring to the gantz minus conclusion)

I still wonder why some people think we will ever see that shithead ryu again. he was only there to show that kurono has grown and now, hopefully, he's lying in a corner... cut to pieces.

Damura
June 10, 2010, 05:22 AM
I still wonder why some people think we will ever see that shithead ryu again. he was only there to show that kurono has grown and now, hopefully, he's lying in a corner... cut to pieces.

Or you're wrong. And he'll be back. We'll see.

gantzaccount
June 10, 2010, 09:15 AM
I'm really surprised there isn't a bigger deal being made about the guy talking and holding his face like Sebastian.

GAT-X252
June 10, 2010, 09:46 AM
He is scared.

The thing with Sebastian was that he was...strange, but the hand thing isn't exactly unique to him.

Damura
June 10, 2010, 10:29 AM
I'm really surprised there isn't a bigger deal being made about the guy talking and holding his face like Sebastian.

That's the first thing that came to my mind when I had a look over the raw, but when you read the translation it is clear that the behaviour merely reflects the characters extreme dread over his uncertain future.
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yeah right -.-
ryu fanboys should play street fighter...

What the hell are you talking about?

warbandit66
June 10, 2010, 02:08 PM
yeah right -.-
ryu fanboys should play street fighter...

Pfft... everybody knows it's all about Ken or Sagat... Hah... Ryu...

Anyway maybe he's Kurono's father and he's helping Tae out as a way of making up for his years of neglect to his son? I know it's very unlikely but it's a maybe.

cesarwgd
June 10, 2010, 02:42 PM
Lots of boobs and pussies in this chapter...but...aren't the japanese men supposed to have small dicks??

If Kurono doesn't go into stealth mode in the next chapter he'll definitely be the most stupid man alive, i mean, searching for Tae inside the enemy fortress without being in stealth mode would be total suicide.....i bet Nishi is already inside the ship in stealth mode and he got there the same way kurono is doing now...

Regarding the dead bodies hanging like dead chickens in the market, i bet they're using the blood of humans as an energy source for their weapons and the ship but they need first to disinfect their bodies in this big kinda swimming pool thing they force them to enter

lutsurugi
June 10, 2010, 03:29 PM
Pfft... everybody knows it's all about Ken or Sagat... Hah... Ryu...

Anyway maybe he's Kurono's father and he's helping Tae out as a way of making up for his years of neglect to his son? I know it's very unlikely but it's a maybe.

nah, we've seen kurono's father, it's not him

warbandit66
June 10, 2010, 06:24 PM
Lots of boobs and pussies in this chapter...but...aren't the japanese men supposed to have small dicks??

If Kurono doesn't go into stealth mode in the next chapter he'll definitely be the most stupid man alive, i mean, searching for Tae inside the enemy fortress without being in stealth mode would be total suicide.....i bet Nishi is already inside the ship in stealth mode and he got there the same way kurono is doing now...

Regarding the dead bodies hanging like dead chickens in the market, i bet they're using the blood of humans as an energy source for their weapons and the ship but they need first to disinfect their bodies in this big kinda swimming pool thing they force them to enter

Hahaha... so crude... Anyway that's just a stereotype, if you're going by that logic then George would've had a sizable bulge in his Gantz suit.

El Samurai Guapo
June 11, 2010, 03:47 AM
Perhaps one of the functions of the spray is to expose anyone who is wearing a gantz suit underneath their clothing. I think there's going to be a battle going on in the next chapter once they spray Kei and see the suit.

AxelCross
June 11, 2010, 02:26 PM
Very interesting chapter. What's this about 'Ryu'? Is that a nickname, or have I forgotten someone? I shudder when thinking about what is going to come next. At first I figured Mr. Rape-face had a change of heart, but his intentions were a bit more than jaded at first. However, now his face almost exudes the feeling of a protector, and yet the caption at the end of the chapter foreshadows something menacing. Perhaps he is gaining her trust in exchange for a chance at some fun with her.

Either way, it won't matter what his intentions are when Kei sees his beloved with him. He is going to snap. The danger that she is in combined with the thought of all these naked men around her will create a recipe for disaster. I can't wait to see what Kei does, it shall be gloriously gory (here's hoping). I'm also very curious about what the other players are doing. Of course the focus will stay with the two lovebirds, but I'd really like to see more of the big picture in later chapters.

That's about it... I HATE having to wait. But then again it seems that every time I say that the next thing I know I'm reading a new chapter. But damn it...July 1st? ROAR! Roar, I say. :p

Random note: When the fawk is someone going to wise-up and find out how to manipulate the revival system of Gantz? My main man Izumi is begging to be unleashed on this alien race. Yes, he is psychotic. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing when the entire fate of the human species is but a flickering candlelight. I can see it now: "THIS IS WHERE I BELONG!!! *Boner* *Extends sword* *Spins* FIN. Huh!? N...No POINTS!? :oh" Not relleh. But I do love his character and it would be a shame (to say the least) if we don't see him again in some form before the series' end.

Sollum
June 11, 2010, 02:31 PM
Very interesting chapter. What's this about 'Ryu'?

http://www.nathansmart.com/blog2/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ryu_test_pallette_v1_psd_jpgcopy.jpg
http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/sf4/sf4/series1/sf4-ryu_big.jpg

anyways, screw Ryu, Akuma for the win!


One thing i cant understand, if we assume that Aliens use humans as fuel/food/POWAH!, why did they slaughter half of the humanity? They only took few dudes and dudeses...

Somehow instead of finding out more about Gantz we are still stuck on same spot...

SK-Hao
June 11, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'm disgusted! Tae isnt supposed to have a nice body, Oku changed her looks!

Those people hanging upside down (like cattle) had a small hole in their head and a large one in their chest, are the aliens collecting blood or using humans as food? if they just wanted to kill them there wouldnt be a need to take them aboard their ship. We saw people being captured before but we don't get to see what happens to them until tae gets captured.

kaliayev
June 11, 2010, 05:30 PM
When the fawk is it going to be revealed that someone wised-up and found out how to manipulate the revival system of Gantz? My main man Izumi was begging to be unleashed on the human race. Yes, he is psychotic. But that is definitely a bad thing when the entire fate of the human species is but a flickering candlelight. I can see it now: "THIS IS WHERE I BELONG!!! *Boner* *Uses high tier alien suit* *Spins* FIN. Huh!? N...No POINTS!? :oh...at least i beat Kurono *Kei-R stabs Blondie in the back of the head*" Not relleh. But I do love his character and it would be a shame (to say the least) if Oku doesn't reveal Blondie's identity before the series' end.

There, I think I fixed that for you. The food and fuel arguments fall short when one compares the portion of humanity killed vs. captured and then industrially slaughtered. There has to be something more sinister to the aliens' industrial slaughter of their captives. "All hail the leader of the species we have just been converted to." That goes double from the Tokyo U student. Fortunately, the Tokyo handler was around to ensure Tae doesn't share the same fate...at least, not until Kei-T serves his purpose.

Damura
June 11, 2010, 06:26 PM
There, I think I fixed that for you. The food and fuel arguments fall short when one compares the portion of humanity killed vs. captured and then industrially slaughtered. There has to be something more sinister to the aliens' industrial slaughter of their captives. "All hail the leader of the species we have just been converted to." That goes double from the Tokyo U student. Fortunately, the Tokyo handler was around to ensure Tae doesn't share the same fate...at least, not until Kei-T serves his purpose.

Perhaps the death toll is not as high as we thought. We're still seeing very large numbers of people being collected into the cages on Day #2.

Cpt Hanada
June 12, 2010, 01:36 AM
Oku is milking the slaughterhouse image for all it´s worth. If the prior aliens were a bunch of moral greys (negi, chibi and temple were not very dangerous but oni and dinosaurs were) Oku wants to make the giants total black knights. They come blowing stuff, they kill civilians with abandon and those who they don´t kill are processed like pigs, so he is taking us to a "if you want to shoot them all, mind the splat" scenario were all the aliens are, even more if possible, open season and were Kurono and Kato´s reserves for killing human looking aliens are stupid.

M.

Hi all, after following Gantz for a few years I had to post in this forum or go Nishi :D

Damura
June 12, 2010, 02:15 AM
Oku is milking the slaughterhouse image for all it´s worth. If the prior aliens were a bunch of moral greys (negi, chibi and temple were not very dangerous but oni and dinosaurs were) Oku wants to make the giants total black knights. They come blowing stuff, they kill civilians with abandon and those who they don´t kill are processed like pigs, so he is taking us to a "if you want to shoot them all, mind the splat" scenario were all the aliens are, even more if possible, open season and were Kurono and Kato´s reserves for killing human looking aliens are stupid.

M.

Hi all, after following Gantz for a few years I had to post in this forum or go Nishi :D

The aliens seem very similar to humans. The aliens are doing to humans what humans do to animals - and even in many cases, other humans.

BrazilianGantzer
June 12, 2010, 07:43 AM
The aliens seem very similar to humans. The aliens are doing to humans what humans do to animals - and even in many cases, other humans.

Yes, sure seems like it. Would the aliens be using humans as resources? But,if that is the case, why did it take so long for them to arrive? What is more, if Gantz is man-made, how could it have enough information about the invasion in order to make the Katastrophe timer?

Waken Up
June 12, 2010, 05:17 PM
What if the Aliens are picking out females for breeding?
The guy could be a human on their side who has taken an interest in her and wants her for you know, this could keep Tae alive for a while anyway. I can't realistically see where a naked man and woman could go without any weapons, its not as if Kei is 100 percent for sure going to be taken to the same docking port, it could be that huge craft has many docking ports for humans to be dropped off. It would make sense, they have a lot of those people carriers going around.

Just thought ild throw that out there.

Oh and if Kei starts shooting with his lil gun, realistically speaking he could use the other humans as shields, sure okay itd buy him about 10 seconds once the flying disks of doom appear, but for a surprise pew pew explode the aliens attack and rush inside, it could work.

Charlie
June 12, 2010, 05:41 PM
You're right Kei could be sent to a different docking port. I hope that he is not sent to some other area. We saw in the current chapter, there were at least three cage ships in one location.

Going stealth is best thing Kei can do to cover ground without being noticed, once he arrives at the destination.

I have no idea the intention of these invader aliens, capturing the humans and then killing them in such manner. Although some great ideas have been thrown in by the other posters.

What will happen as Kei attempts to save Tae? Will the others follow in an attempt to be saved. Perhaps that human shield thing, is not so far off.

GAT-X252
June 12, 2010, 06:17 PM
Well, i hope he is!

Oku said a while ago on his twitter that he was drawing a lot of weird monsters, i thought that meant that the aliens had a lab full of weird monsters and the humans were used as experiments...turns out it wasn't that way.

But like i said before, maybe some are used as experiments! i think Tae is safe around the mustache dude...at least for a while.

Damura
June 12, 2010, 06:21 PM
You're right Kei could be sent to a different docking port. I hope that he is not sent to some other area. We saw in the current chapter, there were at least three cage ships in one location.

Going stealth is best thing Kei can do to cover ground without being noticed, once he arrives at the destination.

I have no idea the intention of these invader aliens, capturing the humans and then killing them in such manner. Although some great ideas have been thrown in by the other posters.

What will happen as Kei attempts to save Tae? Will the others follow in an attempt to be saved. Perhaps that human shield thing, is not so far off.

We saw a large number of cages heading for similar docking ports, The large holding room that Tae met the rapist in held multiple captives from multiple cages. I think it would be safe to say that Kei is moving on the right track. He brought the H-gun though... I wonder if it is going to work. It worked last time, but now he's in sort of a narrow confinement.

Charlie
June 12, 2010, 06:42 PM
I'm disgusted! Tae isnt supposed to have a nice body, Oku changed her looks!

......:blink

Tae's body looks normal, her looks along with the others have been tweaked somewhat during the series. However Tae still looks like a plain Jane. Compared to Reika most people would also. :p

I still like Tae by the way. ^^

In-terms of her body I haven't seen the "change" you're alluding to. :notrust



Those people hanging upside down (like cattle) had a small hole in their head and a large one in their chest, are the aliens collecting blood or using humans as food? if they just wanted to kill them there wouldnt be a need to take them aboard their ship. We saw people being captured before but we don't get to see what happens to them until tae gets captured.

Those prisoner's being shot in the head and being cut in the chest, were not amusing to see. You could be right about the food thing. The giants could be using them as food, some rare delicacy. :darn :tem
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We saw a large number of cages heading for similar docking ports, The large holding room that Tae met the rapist in held multiple captives from multiple cages. I think it would be safe to say that Kei is moving on the right track. He brought the H-gun though... I wonder if it is going to work. It worked last time, but now he's in sort of a narrow confinement.

Kei probably wont use it with the humans around him. Once he is out and about, he will use it with caution or as needed. Your right about the narrow confinement of the ship. My guess prior to or just after the landing, he makes a hole of some kind with the sword, and goes invisible.

getiton
June 12, 2010, 08:00 PM
i think , the way to make clones of human starts this way.
they kill them.
They don't want to maybe show them the routes or way!
Remember this is gantz original creators base!!!
They can just clone them and get them in another place and we were like :O noo.
So short story planting bomb or something in their mind is a piece of gun shot with a bomb as a bullet!

Cpt Hanada
June 12, 2010, 08:32 PM
Kei probably wont use it with the humans around him. Once he is out and about, he will use it with caution or as needed. Your right about the narrow confinement of the ship. My guess prior to or just after the landing, he makes a hole of some kind withe sword, and goes invisible.
I´m partial to a "Surprise" and then a short massacre in the landing bay, more fun that way. And guys remember that depending on Kurono´s killing speed it the alarm might not go off if everybody is dead or the giants might not respond as fast and as hard as before, after all a "One armed human in loading bay C" is not the same thread than "Multiple armed hostiles in main plaza"

About the turning the bodies into aliens... could be, this is Gantz where Oku changes the rules from chapter to chapter:p but usually you don´t shoot somebody and then bleed him dry before resurrecting him as a something. I´m in the we are food for them camp.

M.

Cyber34
June 13, 2010, 12:07 AM
So I'm guessing Tae chan is going to be brutally raped by the time Kurono manages to get anywhere near her to be the night in shining armor. Classic predictable perverted Gantz.

warbandit66
June 13, 2010, 09:14 AM
Would it really be funny though?

If this guy was going to rape somebody why out of everybody there did he pick Tae? It's just too coincidental that she's Kei's girlfriend and he's coming along to rescue her. Besides this character has a level of detail to his appearance that indicates to me anyway that he's more than just some rapist. Oku tends to draw important characters slightly differently to bit players.

Kozar927
June 13, 2010, 02:39 PM
Would it really be funny though?

If this guy was going to rape somebody why out of everybody there did he pick Tae? It's just too coincidental that she's Kei's girlfriend and he's coming along to rescue her. Besides this character has a level of detail to his appearance that indicates to me anyway that he's more than just some rapist. Oku tends to draw important characters slightly differently to bit players.

I agree witht his alot. He definitely drew him like he draws important characters. The lines in his face tell me alot about him, knowing okus art style. And beside were getting close to the end, dont you think its time for the gratuitous rape fanservice to die down.. I mean camon their on an alien ship and the worlds about to end.... Oku "I know ill draw a rape scean"

-___- Camon give your readers some creadit

Charlie
June 13, 2010, 03:07 PM
I´m partial to a "Surprise" and then a short massacre in the landing bay, more fun that way. And guys remember that depending on Kurono´s killing speed it the alarm might not go off if everybody is dead or the giants might not respond as fast and as hard as before, after all a "One armed human in loading bay C" is not the same thread than "Multiple armed hostiles in main plaza"

M.

It would be a bad surprise, if Kei takes too long to think and the suit gets melted by that chemical washer the aliens used.

I think no one here wouldn't mind the sick and twisted gore (plus boobies)
that comes out of Oku sensei's mind....:D

Damura
June 13, 2010, 06:21 PM
Would it really be funny though?

If this guy was going to rape somebody why out of everybody there did he pick Tae? It's just too coincidental that she's Kei's girlfriend and he's coming along to rescue her. Besides this character has a level of detail to his appearance that indicates to me anyway that he's more than just some rapist. Oku tends to draw important characters slightly differently to bit players.

She stands out. She's the only adult with no breasts. I agree with you that the character's level of detail stands out though - he looks like a rapist.


I agree witht his alot. He definitely drew him like he draws important characters. The lines in his face tell me alot about him, knowing okus art style. And beside were getting close to the end, dont you think its time for the gratuitous rape fanservice to die down.. I mean camon their on an alien ship and the worlds about to end.... Oku "I know ill draw a rape scean"

-___- Camon give your readers some creadit

Crimes of a sexual nature are often said to represent the worst that humanity has to offer... it would be appropriate, especially now (Katastrophe, not necessarily right now on the tiny platform next to hundreds of recent-corpses).

Ryuu was drawn with that same kind of 'look at me I'm gonna be important' drawing style as the rapist too...

Charlie
June 13, 2010, 07:09 PM
I also recall the hype around Ryuu, from the way he was portrayed. The "rape guy" also gives off a weird vibe.

This is going off topic somewhat but....

Who knows, maybe we'll have an interesting reunion in the next chapter.
I for one, would like to know if Ryuu is still alive, or in one of those ports along with the rest of the captives.

With his "tough guy" attitude, I would love to see if he managed survive, along with his girl (forgets name). This or if he chickened out and ditched the girl.

The "rape man" probably is a random stranger, perhaps he identified Tae with his daughter, and approached her to make sure. :p

SuperShuter
June 13, 2010, 07:19 PM
you are taking this rape thing a little too far, no offence but its a little far fetched to think someone in the middle of an alien invasion where, everyone is being slautered on a hostile ship, would go to the effort to help her escape (assuming he's a average rapist) to find the nearest secluded location (where he was no idea where hes going) to meerly rape her.

I agree its plausible that he saw her and took a sexual interest in her and noticed her in the water and then helped get her out of the water. It could be true that he might attempt it for the sake of it when he finds safety. You would think in the current crisis and the manner in which he's dealing with it, he's more than the average civilian. I would be disapointed if he was just there too make a sexual pass at tae, it would just seem like theres no longer originality behind Gantz.
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For me the only hype around Ryuu, would be if he entered the game and became more of an unstable version of Izumi, as he only got slightly pissed off at kei with rilvalry, but he had a lot of composure. Ryuu would be an absolute physo, like the Osaka team, but someone to directly rivlal kei again.

Without any power he's a useless character though, just an everyday jerk. But yeah he gave off a very strong vibe, which suggested he would re-apear, different from the bullies seen earlier on.

warbandit66
June 13, 2010, 07:36 PM
@Damura

Ryu was important, although his part may seem small in the grand scheme of things. He was there to show us how far Kei has come and how he's become better than those who used to look down on him. He could have easily smashed the guy's face in but he walked away.

gantz8213
June 13, 2010, 07:57 PM
Alright guys, ive been lurking the discussion thread, and now i am thoroughly confused on who the hell Ryu is. It seems when ever someone asks they only answer by posting pictures with Street Fighter Ryu...not overly helpful.

Also, Tae has changed way to much. Seriously, when she first got introduced she had no good qualitys at all. Now it appears she has the best ass in Gantz...though she is still flat....

Lastly, i bet this Rape dude is a Gantzer, or a ex-Ganterz. I also get the feeling he has done something like this before, maybe he actually has been running missions like this since it started, getting captured, and getting out with someone.

Cpt Hanada
June 13, 2010, 08:37 PM
Ryuu is a former classmate of Kurono that is dating the girl Kurono had a crush on during junior high. He appears in chapter 286 and only to point out that Kurono has mellowed when Tae is around and is not the nihilist he used to be.

It would be a bad surprise, if Kei takes too long to think and the suit gets melted by that chemical washer the aliens used.

I think no one here wouldn't mind the sick and twisted gore (plus boobies)
that comes out of Oku sensei's mind....:D

We´ll have to wait and see, but the aliens are wearing work clothes that seem resistant to the liquid. If the suit is made from a similar material Kurono might be safe as houses, same with the H-gun.

M.

BrazilianGantzer
June 13, 2010, 11:11 PM
@Damura

Ryu was important, although his part may seem small in the grand scheme of things. He was there to show us how far Kei has come and how he's become better than those who used to look down on him. He could have easily smashed the guy's face in but he walked away.

I agree with you. I think his role in the plot is done. Sure, his appearance could be seen as a way to re-introduce him in a way that was similar to how Kishimoto was seen by Katou again, but I'm not sure.

If adding Ryu was so important to the story, why not add him instead of the "rapist" dude? In fact, that might have been a better move considering that Ryu knows Tae and would remember her as being Kei's girlfriend.

I don't think that Ryu will be appearing again and, if he does, he won't be playing too big of a role. Then again, I have been wrong before...

Ruhina
June 14, 2010, 03:22 AM
I think the rapist looks a bit like Nuri plus some hair. Not saying that he is, but his apperance looks more disturbing if you think of it that way.

Damura
June 14, 2010, 03:38 AM
you are taking this rape thing a little too far, no offence but its a little far fetched to think someone in the middle of an alien invasion where, everyone is being slautered on a hostile ship, would go to the effort to help her escape (assuming he's a average rapist) to find the nearest secluded location (where he was no idea where hes going) to meerly rape her.

Osaka. Remember?
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@Damura

Ryu was important, although his part may seem small in the grand scheme of things. He was there to show us how far Kei has come and how he's become better than those who used to look down on him. He could have easily smashed the guy's face in but he walked away.

Nah I don't think so. His role so far was useless. Kei didn't need any more development. Should have saved it for some of the other neglected members of the team.

Cannibal713
June 14, 2010, 09:16 AM
Giants get a bad reputation. Im mythology, eastern or western, the giant feeds off of human flesh without fail. Now why not in prossing plant/spaceships? But are they going to be made more than that...

Hiroya Oku is often critical of human weaknesses and pettyness; are these newest aliens much more than a tool to show our faults?

If there was a race of people somewhere that were a foot tall, I hate to imagine the horror that would have been unleashed by man in their greed.

getiton
June 14, 2010, 08:36 PM
i for one think, that he is gonna show something total opposite.
The rapist dude maybe a former Baseball player anyone? he gives this look of yuzu kun or something the bird alien.
i can't wait for june 1 ARGHHH!!

Amigo!
June 15, 2010, 06:29 AM
i think "the-rapist" is just a plot device to keep tae alive long enough for kei to get there in time, otherwise i wouldn't be able to understand how a weak little Asian girl would survive longer then stronger more capable human beings.
On a unrelated note that idiot that let himself get sucked down the drain then reappeared dead and getting drained of blood made me laugh!
what the hell are they doing with those people anyway?

requiem46
June 15, 2010, 08:17 AM
wow, that made absolutely no sense. The guy thinking of them being prisoners of war made sense, but then they are apparently shot in the forehead to get some blood out? Oku is twisted, I tell ya.

I kindal iked the chapter though

El Samurai Guapo
June 15, 2010, 01:34 PM
I actually think that Kei is going to come across the two of them eventually (Tae and the "rapist") and see them both naked in a corner together, or something. Kei will get the wrong idea of what's going on, start crying, say "Tae-chan, tae-chan" a few times, then run off.

warbandit66
June 15, 2010, 03:40 PM
No way. Kei knows full well that Tae wouldn't even look at another man. She even turned down Izumi and Kei saw it.

KenCS
June 15, 2010, 06:00 PM
Y'know, I was curious to the lack of boobage in Gantz lately. Seems like he's making up for it with a chapter full of naked people lol. Didn't need to see dicks, but it looks like there'd be no way to cover it all up.

BrazilianGantzer
June 15, 2010, 08:16 PM
I actually think that Kei is going to come across the two of them eventually (Tae and the "rapist") and see them both naked in a corner together, or something. Kei will get the wrong idea of what's going on, start crying, say "Tae-chan, tae-chan" a few times, then run off.

There is no way in hell that Kei came this far just to see Tae with another man and "run off". If that did happen and he got the wrong idea he'd probably punch the "rapist".
Thing is, I doubt that will happen: there is too much going on right now. I'm sure Kei has other priorities at the moment.

gantzaccount
June 15, 2010, 10:08 PM
wow, that made absolutely no sense. The guy thinking of them being prisoners of war made sense, but then they are apparently shot in the forehead to get some blood out? Oku is twisted, I tell ya.

I kindal iked the chapter though


The single shot to the head, then hung by the limbs to drain out the blood is the exact way we harvest cattle.

Arrogance
June 16, 2010, 12:18 AM
Wow, this was a freaking sick chapter, in action and gore wise. Once we thought things weren't too bad and they were just POW, NOPE, they are in fact being slaughtered and have their blood drained. It looks like a slaughter house for pigs and cattle. Do the aliens eat humans or do they need their blood? If they need the blood that would explain the drainage. Otherwise this just makes the grand scheme of things even more confusing to figure out. In interested to see what Kei is going to do when he shows up. I am also curious if his suit will withstand the acid wash or whatever it was. Can't wait :D.

Cannibal713
June 16, 2010, 01:13 AM
wow, that made absolutely no sense. The guy thinking of them being prisoners of war made sense, but then they are apparently shot in the forehead to get some blood out? Oku is twisted, I tell ya.

I kindal iked the chapter though



I think it makes perfect sence.. Theyre being butchured, literialy. A quick pheumatic cylinder through the head and a cut up the middle to drain the animal of blood. No different from what we do to lesser creatures.

Http://home.comcast.net/~cannibal713/meat.jpg

Nishino
June 16, 2010, 05:16 AM
I was hoping that would be ryu and not a rapist, still haven't seen either him or his girlfriend again

I personally believe (with the dude's sudden interest) that maybe it's sebastian changing appearances because he knows the kurono connection (referring to the gantz minus conclusion)

I dun believe ryu would ever appear again. nor his gf. they are minor characters for Kurono's backstory.

I think "rapist dude" is the Gantz leader from before!

anyone notice Tae staring right at his dick when he saved her? :D

and asian women usually have wider hips and smaller chests.

Damura
June 16, 2010, 05:54 AM
and asian women usually have wider hips and smaller chests.

Says who? This is not the case in my experience...

warbandit66
June 16, 2010, 08:18 AM
Says who? This is not the case in my experience...

Well that dude is from Singapore I'd imagine he'd be quite clued up on the physique of Asian women. You know, being surrounded by them and all...

Anyway, as far as I know livestock is not shot through the head in preparation for distribution. An electric shock is administered through the brain, killing it.

Damura
June 16, 2010, 10:28 AM
Well that dude is from Singapore I'd imagine he'd be quite clued up on the physique of Asian women. You know, being surrounded by them and all...

Yeah we've got Asian women in Australia too...


Anyway, as far as I know livestock is not shot through the head in preparation for distribution. An electric shock is administered through the brain, killing it.

Doesn't make much of a difference really. The shot through the head is a minor detail compared everything else.

warbandit66
June 16, 2010, 12:14 PM
Yeah, of course, but perhaps he means a typical asian female's physique?

I know I was just being a bit pedantic. It just astonished me that people would think that abattoir workers would take time to put a bullet between the eyes of every animal they slaughter.

Damura
June 17, 2010, 06:45 AM
I know I was just being a bit pedantic. It just astonished me that people would think that abattoir workers would take time to put a bullet between the eyes of every animal they slaughter.

I had that same thought actually. Just because everything seemed so rushed. Would have been easier just to hook them to the machine WITHOUT shooting them all precisely in the middle of the head.

Cannibal713
June 17, 2010, 10:22 AM
I had that same thought actually. Just because everything seemed so rushed. Would have been easier just to hook them to the machine WITHOUT shooting them all precisely in the middle of the head.



Right..They prepaired at least 20 people for slaughter in what seemed to be almost as many seconds. Lasers might do the trick that fast.

But when you think about it, the giants are so big that a single person would be like a buffalo wing's worth of meat. They ought to just grind em all up (like in Pink Floyd's The Wall)

God this thread is getting morbid.

Hard Core Rikki
June 17, 2010, 11:53 AM
I'm puzzled that noone linked that practice to the possibility of the aliens having creatures or themselves inhabiting those bodies.
There's been plenty of reasonably human-shaped aliens after all.

SK-Hao
June 17, 2010, 01:14 PM
I like the idea that he is a vampire it seems the most probable. I also Agree with the theory that he notices kei jumping on skyscrapers trying to save tae and decided sticking with her might be a good idea. Sure he might try to rape tae and it follows oku's whole plot of human evil but my money is on him knowing a way out.

warbandit66
June 17, 2010, 05:06 PM
Right..They prepaired at least 20 people for slaughter in what seemed to be almost as many seconds. Lasers might do the trick that fast.

But when you think about it, the giants are so big that a single person would be like a buffalo wing's worth of meat. They ought to just grind em all up (like in Pink Floyd's The Wall)

God this thread is getting morbid.

I thought the same thing. If I was one of those giants I wouldn't bother going to the trouble for such small units of meat. I really doubt that the humans are food. Not for them anyway.

topkomputer
June 18, 2010, 12:42 AM
I thought the same thing. If I was one of those giants I wouldn't bother going to the trouble for such small units of meat. I really doubt that the humans are food. Not for them anyway.
I think for those giants humans are kinda like chicken. They might gathering them for canned food.

Cannibal713
June 18, 2010, 05:01 AM
I thought the same thing. If I was one of those giants I wouldn't bother going to the trouble for such small units of meat..


I got it! We are a delicacy. Its the human race's destiny to be served as space gormet dishes for 4 eyed, 6 digited giants. Just two bites on a big plate painstakingly garnished.

As illogical as it might be. Giants always eat people. Jack's "I smell the blood of an Englishman" guy, Odysseus's "Nobody". Japanese "Oni" ,The Far East and India are full of it too.
But the Gantz giants do have one thing going for them. Almost seven billion little humans. We might not be big, but we have the numbers. We've completely infested this planet.

requiem46
June 18, 2010, 11:33 AM
I think it makes perfect sence.. Theyre being butchured, literialy. A quick pheumatic cylinder through the head and a cut up the middle to drain the animal of blood. No different from what we do to lesser creatures.

Http://home.comcast.net/~cannibal713/meat.jpg

ya, there's one small difference. We usually do that to creatures we have always kept in captivity, and bred precisely for that purpose. This is a bunch of aliens going out of their way to grab a bunch of liveh umans and then kill them when it was way easier to just kill them in the streets. not to mention the "you are wasting most of your food supply out there" points people have already made xD

godofthesunn
June 18, 2010, 01:27 PM
The great manga prophet appears...

Why have the aliens captured humans? Well like many of you have phrophizied they want to use the humans for an energy source in a way similar to the matrix or they just want to wipe them all out so that they can inhabit the planet earth.

shinotenshi
June 19, 2010, 12:55 AM
Maybe they require the humans for genetic experiments. It's possible that these aliens were once human too, but changed to their current forms through experimenting, and then finally left to breed to the species that they are now.

The bodies they butchered can be used for experimenting by replacing the human blood within the bodies with a alien one. They may in essence have the ability to create vampires this way.

Soldner Kei
June 19, 2010, 03:30 AM
so if they butchured a vampire, nanomachines would be everywhere?

I like the farm theory, keep farming the planet, using the humans as sourse of energy, leave, energy runs out, go planet, repeat.... maybe gantz has been made so at least ganzters can fight back... sorta...

Amigo!
June 19, 2010, 03:57 AM
I feel like we might not get an answer as to why they are cutting up humans, it could just be a way to add some more shock value to the rescue Tae portion of the final phase. Anyone have any theories on what we will see after all this kei/tae drama is over, oh wait i just realized, what if kei gets to her then is teleported back with the other gantzers while holding her?.

warbandit66
June 19, 2010, 06:45 AM
so if they butchured a vampire, nanomachines would be everywhere?

I like the farm theory, keep farming the planet, using the humans as sourse of energy, leave, energy runs out, go planet, repeat.... maybe gantz has been made so at least ganzters can fight back... sorta...

The nano machines are microscopic , therefor far too small for us to see them. They're probably around the same size as blood cells.

topkomputer
June 20, 2010, 09:59 AM
I don't think the mustache guy is a rapist. Usually the end description could be a "batman" trap. He might plan something. If he want to rape Tae, he could at least doing something like touching her sensitive area when he first meet her. Somehow I hope this Tae arc end soon. I'd like to see more of Reika, Katou or even Nishi

SuperShuter
June 20, 2010, 10:10 AM
Has the point been made that maybe their looking for specific types of humans with genes and killing the ones that don't?

xInCasinoOutx
June 20, 2010, 01:17 PM
Has the point been made that maybe their looking for specific types of humans with genes and killing the ones that don't?

Physically, none of these people stand out or have similar features.
If they are looking for other genes, say one that promotes a certain behavior, then they must be looking for very whiny humans.

Otherwise, why pick up Tae? :eyeroll

BrazilianGantzer
June 20, 2010, 03:54 PM
Otherwise, why pick up Tae? :eyeroll

Well, we don't know if they've 'picked' her yet. For all we know, they're getting as many people as they can and only choose who they'll use later. The was people were herded into the cages seemed to me like they just wanted to fill those up with whichever humans they could find. Tae was just unlucky. I think that if they are picking and choosing, they would wait to do that once they were on their big ship.

SuperShuter
June 21, 2010, 08:31 AM
Nah I mean with the selection of the humans going through the gate, nothing to do with tae

topkomputer
June 21, 2010, 09:56 AM
I think Tae is pretty lucky compared to her mom. She still alive until now, even touch facing true terror. Probably alien chose human for food randomly. Humans are plenty, there are billions of them.

Or based on ages. Except the mustache guy, I think people that are caught pretty young.

xInCasinoOutx
June 21, 2010, 12:48 PM
I think Tae is pretty lucky compared to her mom.

I think her mom is the lucky one..
While she may be dead, she's also not terrified and psychologically damaged from all she's witnessed.

IF the humans survive this, the effects of surviving the destruction of the human race will probably lead to a mental meltdown. Everyone will just be zombie-like and unable to function.

I'm starting to think the manga will end with a very nihilistic tone.
Oku is showing us just one or two races of aliens invading. How many have we seen over the course of the manga? Around 10 (guessing)?

Since they no longer have any reason to hide, what's stopping them from invading also? Surely there are more than the ones we saw.

In short, humanity is severely fucked.

Charlie
June 21, 2010, 03:33 PM
How can Tae's mom be considered lucky, even when counting the trauma she and the others incurred from the invasion. She is dead and that means game over, which means unlucky.

Although by luck, I take you mean that since she is dead, she wont have to suffer anymore.

I'm very curious about the next chapter. I cant wait to see how Kei handles the situation after getting into the loading area.

My guess is the chapter is going to start with Kei looking Tae and then we'll also have Katou reunion with his brother, probably just a quick glimpse. I doubt there is going to be any focus on Rekia or Muscle rider.

gnut
June 21, 2010, 04:05 PM
guys i been saying since i started posting,that all the minor aliens though few in number were running from the same invaders.maybe thats why vthere are so few of the weaker races,like the leechs.the suzuki's were trying to reproduce until kei destroyed their nest.all im saying is,sure is a shithole of a planet to go on an intergalactic vacation.i think the few species that were here were survivors of a sort,possible maybe.another thought,think how the leech alien was trying to make friends after he answered the door when the gantzers came a knockin'.

xinfamouspandax
June 22, 2010, 05:40 PM
the cover of chapter 219 has kei kishimoto on it & the title says a third person revived. and kishimoto is saying, "you'll have to wait a little longer." my bet is that they gain control of the revival system and bring back all the original characters (of importance)! badassss. i know sounds random, also i really hope this guy doesnt rape tae, thatd be nuts, but to be honest, i think its 50/50. but i think he is going to rape her, which is crazy.

Amigo!
June 22, 2010, 08:38 PM
the cover of chapter 219 has kei kishimoto on it & the title says a third person revived. and kishimoto is saying, "you'll have to wait a little longer." my bet is that they gain control of the revival system and bring back all the original characters (of importance)! badassss. i know sounds random, also i really hope this guy doesnt rape tae, thatd be nuts, but to be honest, i think its 50/50. but i think he is going to rape her, which is crazy.

pffft what a long shot dude, kishimoto was a clone whose original self was still alive, i dont think there is a point to bringing her back into the plot line anyway, along with anyone else. whoever is dead at this point should stay dead imo

cassaruby
June 22, 2010, 09:40 PM
if they bring someone back tastefully, it's fine... no matter who it is.

Charlie
June 22, 2010, 09:55 PM
guys i been saying since i started posting,that all the minor aliens though few in number were running from the same invaders.maybe thats why vthere are so few of the weaker races,like the leechs.the suzuki's were trying to reproduce until kei destroyed their nest.all im saying is,sure is a shithole of a planet to go on an intergalactic vacation.i think the few species that were here were survivors of a sort,possible maybe.another thought,think how the leech alien was trying to make friends after he answered the door when the gantzers came a knockin'.

The alien question. What happened to them, another unanswered question or mystery. :amuse


if they bring someone back tastefully, it's fine... no matter who it is.

At this point if anyone get revived... I want that sniper from the Buddha mission and Sei. Izumi can come back as-well, but I like the first two I mentioned.

SuperShuter
June 23, 2010, 04:46 AM
^ The alien question?

-I'm going with they were once humans
-I don't know if they created aliens for game. as they could of just went gantz team vs gantz team
-vampires are same race and were once humans
-most aliens speak and say human things

topkomputer
June 23, 2010, 09:56 AM
At this point if anyone get revived... I want that sniper from the Buddha mission and Sei. Izumi can come back as-well, but I like the first two I mentioned.

Sei is the tomb-raider girl? I wish she is back too. And the unknown sniper is pretty good too for a first-try gantzer.

TheSixPaths
June 23, 2010, 01:37 PM
I think her mom is the lucky one..
While she may be dead, she's also not terrified and psychologically damaged from all she's witnessed.

IF the humans survive this, the effects of surviving the destruction of the human race will probably lead to a mental meltdown. Everyone will just be zombie-like and unable to function.



Death is worse, death is always worse.

xInCasinoOutx
June 23, 2010, 02:34 PM
How can Tae's mom be considered lucky, even when counting the trauma she and the others incurred from the invasion. She is dead and that means game over, which means unlucky.

Although by luck, I take you mean that since she is dead, she wont have to suffer anymore.

Saying she was lucky was both an ironic and true statement. By that, I mean she won't have to suffer anymore, unlike everyone else.


Death is worse, death is always worse.

Really? We all die anyway.
And with violent aliens to help expedite that inevitable process...

Let's see: endure anxiety, fear, horror, shock, pain, and loss or die?
Now I've never died, but I'm sure the combination of all those negative experiences PLUS what comes after if survival even occurs would be far worse.

But to each their own. D:

Edit: Also, your statement is ironic considering your signature has Pain from Naruto in it. That guy is a posterchild for my argument.

Charlie
June 23, 2010, 04:32 PM
^ The alien question?

-I'm going with they were once humans
-I don't know if they created aliens for game. as they could of just went gantz team vs gantz team
-vampires are same race and were once humans
-most aliens speak and say human things

These are all good guess that others have stated for a possible answer. However we still have no idea in-terms of manga revelations.


Sei is the tomb-raider girl? I wish she is back too. And the unknown sniper is pretty good too for a first-try gantzer.

Ah yes, that is correct. One of my favorites from back in the day.
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Saying she was lucky was both an ironic and true statement. By that, I mean she won't have to suffer anymore, unlike everyone else.


Well, yeah, I thought that is what you meant to say. :)
Although I can see that point as well, I'm against that logic.

SuperShuter
June 24, 2010, 02:51 AM
Yeah Sei was a good character, it was gantz at its best how it brought in and killed off strong characters, very seriel and shocking. Looking back the show would have stayed stronger if there was no revivals, but im guessing it always went hand in hand with the story line.

xInCasinoOutx
June 24, 2010, 01:28 PM
Yeah Sei was a good character, it was gantz at its best how it brought in and killed off strong characters, very seriel and shocking. Looking back the show would have stayed stronger if there was no revivals, but im guessing it always went hand in hand with the story line.

Seems more like a way to conveniently relinquish plot armor for a bit, shocking readers, then to throw it right back on.

I think Gantz would have been far more shocking if the protagonists stayed dead forever.

Panda
June 25, 2010, 01:40 AM
Mebe nobody was "alive" to begin with.
They could be scans of real people put into a game world :)

SuperShuter
June 25, 2010, 04:21 AM
Mebe nobody was "alive" to begin with.
They could be scans of real people put into a game world :)

Yeah thats what I sort of meant with revivals going hand in hand with the story. Sort of like in FMA, with everyone who was summoned by gantz having been killed, unless they make a big sacrafice i can't see the philosophy of them staying alive at the end if Gantz is destroyed. As basically their lives are fake , something is artificially playing god and naturally they should be dead. I'm hoping the climax of the plot is kurono and his belief that is motivating him through the katastrophe is put up against the top of Gamtz "God" in a sort of struggle against fate.

topkomputer
June 25, 2010, 10:24 AM
If the catastrope finish, will the world return to before it was? I think the gantz balls could duplicate all the human beings and things.

absolute Zero
June 25, 2010, 02:42 PM
Yeah thats what I sort of meant with revivals going hand in hand with the story. Sort of like in FMA, with everyone who was summoned by gantz having been killed, unless they make a big sacrafice i can't see the philosophy of them staying alive at the end if Gantz is destroyed. As basically their lives are fake , something is artificially playing god and naturally they should be dead. I'm hoping the climax of the plot is kurono and his belief that is motivating him through the katastrophe is put up against the top of Gamtz "God" in a sort of struggle against fate.

Good Idea man,However wouldn't Kurono basically lose since if your said theory holds and gantz is destroyed or IE he must face some sought of Gantz God he would then die.How would he ever be able to save everything ?

Panda
June 25, 2010, 10:56 PM
Good Idea man,However wouldn't Kurono basically lose since if your said theory holds and gantz is destroyed or IE he must face some sought of Gantz God he would then die.How would he ever be able to save everything ?

Isn't it more exciting to watch Kurono try to defeat an impossible boss, rather than someone that we know can be defeated? Win or lose, the fight is surely going to be very interesting. Perhaps Kurono will only seem to win against the Gantz God...

I have a feeling that Nishi is fighting against the Gantz system with his own theories and experience.

GAT-X252
June 26, 2010, 01:57 AM
Personally, i don't think is exiting to see Kurono evading everything, and that's pretty much what he is doing lately in every single fight, evading everything.

20 aliens shoot at Kurono, he evades every single disk without a scratch. Here comes a giant boss with a super kick at the speed of sound...Kurono evades the kick. What's next? Super death ray aiming at kurono and he evades it?

I rather see a chapter focused on someone who can be defeated fight a strong alien rather than see Kurono, along with Kato the guy who can't die due to plot armor.

El Samurai Guapo
June 26, 2010, 02:53 AM
Personally, i don't think is exiting to see Kurono evading everything, and that's pretty much what he is doing lately in every single fight, evading everything.

20 aliens shoot at Kurono, he evades every single disk without a scratch. Here comes a giant boss with a super kick at the speed of sound...Kurono evades the kick. What's next? Super death ray aiming at kurono and he evades it?

I rather see a chapter focused on someone who can be defeated fight a strong alien rather than see Kurono, along with Kato the guy who can't die due to plot armor.

Actually, the guy who dodges everything and never dies is host samurai. Both Katou and Kei have died and been heavily injured several times. The most HS has lost is a finger. Granted, he gets a lot less screen time than the other two.

llamapie
June 26, 2010, 06:22 AM
Personally, i don't think is exiting to see Kurono evading everything, and that's pretty much what he is doing lately in every single fight, evading everything.

20 aliens shoot at Kurono, he evades every single disk without a scratch. Here comes a giant boss with a super kick at the speed of sound...Kurono evades the kick. What's next? Super death ray aiming at kurono and he evades it?

I rather see a chapter focused on someone who can be defeated fight a strong alien rather than see Kurono, along with Kato the guy who can't die due to plot armor.

Well in this manga power is based on speed. If you aren't fast enough you die, simple enough. I would like to see him kick ass while he is evading though. :P

102jayday
June 26, 2010, 10:38 AM
I agree with panda on nishi fighting gantz system, by that do you mean hack the balls like those guys did.

We never saw nishi been transported to the alien ship so perhaps he has his own ball (toyko one) and his playing around with it, he would know what to do cause he was the one who pointed out the katasphere and giving gantz the wet willy. I bet he would get more powerful weapons for himself and bring izumi back because he would think izumi would be a asset.
its hard to say if nishi cared for izumi like they hang out in the train and all..but i guess nishi calling cherry was his way of hoping they would take the bait and help him against the vampires, that or he don't care like normal lol.


GAT, perhaps kaze fights a strong alien? I thought he was gonna die against nurai final form but nurai just gave him a knock out chop lol.
Very soon i reckon we will see kaze fight a strong alien and Hikiwa (HS) to fight one too.
But before that is kei-chan!! tae-chan!! repeat those 4 words for 4 chapters. Then we will see probs kato trying to save his bro...

cassaruby
June 26, 2010, 03:07 PM
will be awesome if the next time we see Nishi he is in a Gsuit.

shinotenshi
June 26, 2010, 04:14 PM
[...]As basically their lives are fake , something is artificially playing god and naturally they should be dead.

I disagree. Their lives are very much real, but their bodies are fake. This deals with the whole cloning debate people have in real life, on whether a cloned person would have a soul or not. Even though the clone would be alive and have its own thoughts and feelings, would their essence be real too?

Damura
June 26, 2010, 08:49 PM
^

Isn't 'soul' a religious thing? Clones are just as human as non-clones. Let's say a body was perfectly, completely copied and reproduced. It's human. Humans don't have some bullshit spirit force inside of them. It's an interesting and perhaps a little disturbing question, but I think that there is no real argument for perfect copies, or even copies that function as a human on every level, being fake, with fake lives.

While the clone, I believe, is human, there are some significant questions about who owns what. For example take the two Kei's. They can't both have Tae. They can't both go to the same school. What about intellectual property? Let's say Oku was cloned. Let's say he's happily working on Gantz when accidently he clones himself but breaks both his arms in the process. Magically. Let's say you could distinguish between the original and the clone. The manga Gantz would belong to him, being the original, as the clone never actually did it. While it's a bit of a mindfuck for the clone, he can still use all his past memories to work on Gantz while the real Oku's arms are injured. What if Oku already has a good idea for his next manga, and his magic clone steals it? What limits should be placed on clones when dealing with people in the real guys life? Should he be forced to stay away for ever, or branded in some way to stop him from pretending to be the original? Can the clone step back into the originals shoes if the original dies?

I think that in our world as it is, copying a persons mind and putting it in more than one live body at a time is a bad idea.
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As basically their lives are fake , something is artificially playing god and naturally they should be dead.

Nah that's bullshit. If cloning such as what we've seen in Gantz can be mimicked in real life, then it is perfectly natural. Even if you believe in God. If such a thing is possible then the universe is structured in a way that allows for this kind of manipulation of its natural laws. If you don't like the idea of the artificial, how do you get by using computers and cars and medicine?

SuperShuter
June 27, 2010, 08:28 AM
Good Idea man,However wouldn't Kurono basically lose since if your said theory holds and gantz is destroyed or IE he must face some sought of Gantz God he would then die.How would he ever be able to save everything ?

Exactly, I think Oku has been setting this up as Kurono is the man who as basically pledged that there is no god and even if there was one this cruel he isn't going to except it controls his fate, therefore he is using whatever strength he has to create his own fate.

Gantz is behind this alien invasion aswell, I think the code the german girl interpreted was from this sort of supervicial life force being reconised as a god. The ball said they have forfeited their lifes (meaning they died) and it is up to "it" how "it" wants to use their lifes.

Of course I don't think Gantz is going to be "god", just something with amazing power that is acting as a god and therefore its going to take something special that is unpredicted from Gantz for it to be defeated, which could be some sort of sacrifice.
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^

Isn't 'soul' a religious thing? Clones are just as human as non-clones. Let's say a body was perfectly, completely copied and reproduced. It's human. Humans don't have some bullshit spirit force inside of them. It's an interesting and perhaps a little disturbing question, but I think that there is no real argument for perfect copies, or even copies that function as a human on every level, being fake, with fake lives.

I think that in our world as it is, copying a persons mind and putting it in more than one live body at a time is a bad idea.
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Nah that's bullshit. If cloning such as what we've seen in Gantz can be mimicked in real life, then it is perfectly natural. Even if you believe in God. If such a thing is possible then the universe is structured in a way that allows for this kind of manipulation of its natural laws. If you don't like the idea of the artificial, how do you get by using computers and cars and medicine?

Yeah i probably don't like the idea of the artifical, but like every singal liberal who always argues this type of fairness of life and all are all hypocrites just like what I am saying, because we all still use the artificial becauase without it, makes life that inconvient.

My view on the extensive cloning in gantz is that it, abolishes all reason and importance behind life as if your life can be so easily recreated you have no reason to fear or care about dying, and therefore meaning your are not living. This doesn't apply to the characters in Gantz as they still have the complete fear of their loved ones dying so they are living, but this would be removed if all the characters were in the same situation.

knoke5
June 27, 2010, 02:23 PM
That's a Lot of Naked People...

Really, This chapter is pretty creepy, poor Tae, being in that sort of situation really sucks... at least this chapter wasn't all "ah" "oh noes" "kei-chan" "oh shit my arms" "oh crap my girlfriend"... I'll be waiting the translation, the dialogue seems to be interesting Thanks a lot for the raw

cheers =)
couldnt have said it anybeter
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nah. he evades when he has too evade, and kicks ass at just the right moment
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nicobarten
June 27, 2010, 04:09 PM
Ok, on-topic, i really think all what is happening right now in gantz is real... maybe the humans are even used for food for the aliens (like pigs for humans).

The only weird thing i found out, there was really MUCH blood coming out of those people hanging dead. I mean, it just keeps bleeding with much at once... a bit too much i think.

Anyway, good chapter.

xInCasinoOutx
June 27, 2010, 08:28 PM
Should we be expecting 321 in the next few days?
I have no idea what the release schedule is now. :s

GAT-X252
June 28, 2010, 11:57 AM
Please keep on topic.

This is turning out in a "science vs religion" discussion all over again and inevitably people would start insulting each other.


Should we be expecting 321 in the next few days?
I have no idea what the release schedule is now. :s

It's out this Thursday.

lutsurugi
June 28, 2010, 12:11 PM
not a single prediction in here is right at all, that is my prediction.
because gantz is freakin' unpredictable! and that's the coolest thing about gantz!

getiton
June 28, 2010, 05:46 PM
Gantz i think , They all are after the GUY INSIDE THE Huge Gantz ball!
Somebody must be inside that thing, I think the aliens wanna save HER.
cuz that girl inside or so, must have been giving birth? to nuraryon types and so :O!
btw lol i almost forgot what happened in last chapter XD.
hope they turn away from the baseball/rapist guy.
Turn on Kato and his bro! Kato fighting a huge badA$$ guy in order to go to his bro.
that is what i wanna see!

Soldner Kei
June 29, 2010, 04:02 AM
so, the chapter goes out today? can't wait, still i don't wanna see tae get raped... i'd rather see kurono kicking some alien asses in the spraying-thingy-room... and where the hell is kaze, takeshi and the vampires... hell, even the real kishimoto, where is she? she just show off, and nothing ever happened xD

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lol i messed up thursday, anyway, i'll have to wait a little longer :(

nicobarten
June 29, 2010, 12:06 PM
uhhh... today it's tuesday, not thursday. ;)

Tanma
June 29, 2010, 12:34 PM
This "last stage" is so boring compared to the others... I don't like the direction this manga is taking. Even the long battle against Nura was more exciting.

Shion Izumi
July 16, 2010, 11:26 AM
I agree. I am not that big of a fan of this final phase. I liked the manga better when they were actually in Gantz. There was so much mystery and new characters coming into play. I loved that they were going on missions in different cities/countries. I feel that Oku is rushing to finish. I wish we could have seen the Tokyo team develop more with some upgraded weapons and revivals. Why couldnt he keep the Panda around to rez Izumi? I would have loved to see a Izumi/Host Samurai team. What was the point of putting the vamps in the room in the first place when there were only 2 missions left before the Catastrophe?

So much potential was wasted imo. Now its all a Kurono/Tae love story. :p If I was Oku I would dragged out phase 2 a bit more than 2 missions. The Nura mission was epic and these current aliens judt dont measure up to Nura.