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Shinsatsu
April 21, 2012, 08:25 PM
@ben, I don't think that Skyrim is beatable this year. It's way more rich. The story isn't as complicated as The Witcher's but in terms of content... Skyrim has a lot to offer. That's if we only talk about the original skyrim without adding any mods/quests/chars ... etc that people made from the day it was released till now.

Jammin
April 22, 2012, 10:36 AM
Skyrim for me. No question.

I mean, comparing the Witcher 2 to Skyrim seems like a bit of an "Apples to Oranges" comparison but according to my steam account I put 40 hours into the Witcher 2 and 257 hours in Skyrim (and I have no doubt that I will play more on top of that). So what does that tell you?

To be honest even with all it's faults, I would probably put Dragon Age 2(which I apparently put 85 hours into) over The Witcher 2 for RPG of the year.

benelori
April 22, 2012, 10:45 AM
Skyrim for me. No question.

I mean, comparing the Witcher 2 to Skyrim seems like a bit of an "Apples to Oranges" comparison but according to my steam account I put 40 hours into the Witcher 2 and 257 hours in Skyrim (and I have no doubt that I will play more on top of that). So what does that tell you?

Well it is Apples to Oranges....but what you said tells me that you like exploration....

and meaningless choices:cookiehand

:derp

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@ben, I don't think that Skyrim is beatable this year. It's way more rich. The story isn't as complicated as The Witcher's but in terms of content... Skyrim has a lot to offer. That's if we only talk about the original skyrim without adding any mods/quests/chars ... etc that people made from the day it was released till now.

The mods are definitely the ones that made me play Skyrim more...but otherwise...I mean I like customization and the enormous content, but it gets boring really fast after a while...there are two things that I liked about Skyrim, a lot...the funeral scene with The Companions, and the king assassination job...those stand out a lot...but just two...

While in Witcher 2...the entire 2nd and 3rd acts are brilliant...and that's a lot more quality content...and they are adding to it in the Enhanced Edition...cool stuff

Jammin
April 22, 2012, 10:57 AM
Well it is Apples to Oranges....but what you said tells me that you like exploration....

and meaningless choices:cookiehand

:derp I do indeed consider those things important.:amuse

In order to truly immerse myself into a role-playing experience I can't feel too restricted in what I do. Otherwise they aren't really my choices at all.

Skyrim deals with it's story in terms of mini-arcs. Mages College, Fighters Guild(Jorvaskar), Thieves Guild, The Dark Brotherhood, The Dragonborn, and the Civil War(on top of sidequests). Each story is separate and builds the greater Skyrim experience; and hopefully DLC will add even more onto it.

The Witcher 2 is one well written but exposition heavy story with very limited immersion elements. The plot branches nicely but you never really feel free to choose what you do. I never felt like Geralt's story was really my own, and that's part of the point of RPG's. Which is not to say that it isn't a good game, it is; but I don't think it belongs anywhere near the conversation of best RPG's of all time and, frankly, I think Skryim is in that conversation.

zelllogan
April 23, 2012, 12:57 PM
I'm eager to play risen 2 at the end of the week. Arcs replaced by guns & magic replaced by voodoo skills, a real rpg in the world of pirates: Kaizoku ou ni ore wa naruuuuuuuuuu. Plus, graphics & gameplay seems to be good as well

Shinsatsu
April 23, 2012, 07:38 PM
Guys, I'm addicted to Disgaea ... there are too many things to do in this game ... My bad habit of collecting and maxing everything is back ...

kakashi919
April 23, 2012, 07:43 PM
Guys, I'm addicted to Disgaea ... there are too many things to do in this game ... My bad habit of collecting and maxing everything is back ...

Haha! Disgaea is pretty addictive :XD
I always kept going back to level 1 and getting stronger thinking I was invincible after a while. Then I ran into some nasty monsters that killed me in one hit :XD

Shinsatsu
April 23, 2012, 08:20 PM
Haha! Disgaea is pretty addictive :XD
I always kept going back to level 1 and getting stronger thinking I was invincible after a while. Then I ran into some nasty monsters that killed me in one hit :XD
I reached lvl 9999 -_- and reincarnated ... now I'm trying to collect all legendary weapons ... I can't turn this shit off ! Call 911 :D
I still have Persona 4 waiting ... But I wonder when I'll be able to stop playing this game.

Jammin
April 23, 2012, 08:24 PM
I reached lvl 9999 -_- and reincarnated ... now I'm trying to collect all legendary weapons ... I can't turn this shit off ! Call 911 :D
I still have Persona 4 waiting ... But I wonder when I'll be able to stop playing this game.I don't even know if I should tell you this but the max lvl in Disgaea 4 is 99,999.(I've never gotten anywhere remotely close to it.:amuse)

kakashi919
April 23, 2012, 08:25 PM
I reached lvl 9999 -_- and reincarnated ... now I'm trying to collect all legendary weapons ... I can't turn this shit off ! Call 911 :D
I still have Persona 4 waiting ... But I wonder when I'll be able to stop playing this game.

When the save file gets corrupted or something along those lines :XD
That's the only thing that stopped me from playing lol
I also started P4, but haven't continued it in a while :/

zelllogan
May 01, 2012, 04:35 PM
I'm currently playing risen 2. Not bad.
The game is flawed:
- Optimization isn't good. You really need a monster computer to run it
- gameplay in battle isn't very interesting
- Graphics are just good ... no more.

BUT
- Playing a pirate in the carribean
- You get a boat & a crew in the game
- The story is better than in most rpgs I played recently.
- Coherent "pirate" universe
- good dialogs
- no level scaling. You start weak, you progress slowly ... but in the end, you're a beast
- swords,voodoo,muskets in a rpg

A good surprise for me. With a better finition, it could have been in the same division as the witcher

Shinsatsu
May 05, 2012, 05:30 PM
So, I shift+deleted Disgaea because that was the only way to stop this madness ... But I really enjoyed it.

Do you guys know any RPG I could enjoy now? I lost Persona 4 and It will take some time before I could get it again :ninja

Crude
May 16, 2012, 04:02 PM
So I heard Tales of Graces F is coming to Europe and I just had to ask: is "Graces" an actual word? It sounds an awful lot like Engrish to me. Why not just rename the game as Tales of Grace in the west (and drop the F)? Too late now though.

riki
May 16, 2012, 04:18 PM
^Based on my google search, "graces" is an actual word. As for the F, it stands for "future" since they added an extra scenario, which takes place after the original game, and the game was a remake of the Wii version. ^^

Crude
May 17, 2012, 06:07 AM
It is? Does it have the same meaning as "grace"? And yeah I know that the F's in the title due to it being a remake, but seeing as the original never made it to the west they could have just dropped it. I think a name like "Tales of Grace" would be more successful rather than Tales of Graces F. That's just me though.

riki
May 17, 2012, 06:21 AM
^Of course, the fanboys and fangirls would probably be outraged that Namco Bandai changed the title. >.>

Crude
May 17, 2012, 05:03 PM
I guess. I remember not being very happy when I heard Square-Enix changed the title of It's a Wonderful World to The World Ends with You when releasing it outside of Japan. Then I played the game and realized the significance of the new title xD.

riki
May 17, 2012, 05:32 PM
Not to mention that they would probably have to pay the people who owned the rights to "It's a Wonderful World". ^^;

Crude
May 24, 2012, 05:50 AM
Anyone played Dragon's Dogma yet? From what I've seen it looks like your typical European middle-ages inspired fantasy and that the storyline is alright but nothing we haven't seen before. However the combat looks awesome and real fun to play!

Jammin
May 29, 2012, 09:12 AM
Anyone played Dragon's Dogma yet? From what I've seen it looks like your typical European middle-ages inspired fantasy and that the storyline is alright but nothing we haven't seen before. However the combat looks awesome and real fun to play! I just rented it. To be honest, I haven't played enough yet to really give much of an informed opinion.

One interesting thing is that it focuses heavily on custom ally characters called "pawns". So near the beginning of the game you not only create your character but create a companion npc that will stay with you throughout the game. In addition you are able to pick a 3rd npc to travel with you created by other players; and people can use your companion in that role as well.

This is an interesting system but I haven't really used it enough to say how well it works.

My initial impression though is that, while the system is a neat idea, it comes at the price of making the side characters kinda boring. They all have a good bit of banter dialogue, typically quest advice, but that doesn't really fill the void created by their complete lack of back-story.

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I played a bit more or Dragon's Dogma and my fondness for it is beginning to grow.


You tend to travel in a party of 4. You, your custom main npc, and two npc's from other players.

The NPC AI is really good. Unlike a lot of games they really are helpful (and not just in combat).

All NPC's retain knowledge of quests and they've done before, area's they've been to previously, and enemies they've fought. So if one of the NPC's you have along happens to have done the quest your on before they will essentially lead you through it and if they know an enemies weakness they will shout it out to you as well as attack that weakness themselves.(which is pretty cool)

Some of the enemies you fight are huge! (which I think is fun)

It's not very linear you can wander around quite a bit if you want. Take side quests, craft gear, there is even some sort of NPC affection system(which I don't really understand yet).

Once you get to the main city you can remake your characters or classes at will.(which is good if you have a change of heart about what kind of class you want to play, or want your character to look or sound different)


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So basically my opinion on the game is this....

It's not perfect. It's main story doesn't do much to really pull you in and the first 4 hours don't seem designed to make the game seem less impressive than it actually is. But once the world opens up a bit there's lots of fun to be had and the impressively complex NPC AI helps to greatly enhance the experience.

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So as I have played Dragon's Dogma my fondness has turned to straight up love. The beginning is definitely rough but I would now strongly recommend this game to anybody looking for a good action RPG.

And you can see a big reason why right here..


http://youtu.be/r4CQI9aadKY

That's not a boss fight. That's just a regular fight.

Ultimately for me this game taps into the same thing that games like Gothic, and Risen did for me(except far FAR more polished). It's not about the story it's about the adventure and a fun game world and giving the player incentive to adventure through it.

Here are some things anyone looking into this game should be aware of.

You can't fast travel. (You get portal stones later in game, but for the most part you have to travel on foot)
There are multiple love interests.
What you do on side quests does effect the game world.
Night is extremely dark. When you find yourself caught outside at night with no lantern things get pretty interesting.
There is a new game+

kakashi919
June 01, 2012, 08:08 AM
Man that game sounds like something I would enjoy. I just started playing Witcher 2 but it hasn't got me like DA Origins did... in fact, DA is the only WRPG I loved and finished. Dragon's Dogma looks so promising and the multiple love interests is a plus :hurr

btw, do they plan to release this on PC? I don't own a console yet :mono

Jammin
June 01, 2012, 08:28 AM
Man that game sounds like something I would enjoy. I just started playing Witcher 2 but it hasn't got me like DA Origins did... in fact, DA is the only WRPG I loved and finished. Dragon's Dogma looks so promising and the multiple love interests is a plus :hurr

btw, do they plan to release this on PC? I don't own a console yet :mono Sadly, as of May 10th they said that had "No Plans" to release it for PC.

An article I read made the development team seem non-committal about the idea of a PC release. The reason they gave was that the "Pawn System" proved very difficult to do on PC.

riki
June 01, 2012, 08:41 AM
Yes! The console versions of Dark Souls is going to have the added PC content as DLCs (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/31/dark-souls-pcs-dark-knight-artorias-quest-is-coming-to-ps3-xbox-360-as-dlc/). :whoo


http://youtu.be/jVKfAW1dEbs

kakashi919
June 01, 2012, 08:51 AM
Yes! The console versions of Dark Souls is going to have the added PC content as DLCs (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/31/dark-souls-pcs-dark-knight-artorias-quest-is-coming-to-ps3-xbox-360-as-dlc/). :whoo


http://youtu.be/jVKfAW1dEbs

This is def a buy for me. Been waiting for Demon Souls, but since they don't have plans to bring it to PC I'll just have to do with the sequel :D

riki
June 01, 2012, 08:53 AM
I hope you'll enjoy playing it. My brother likes it and to make this easier, he recommends being cautious and don't charge at the enemies head-on.

kakashi919
June 01, 2012, 08:55 AM
I hope you'll enjoy playing it. My brother likes it and to make this easier, he recommends being cautious and don't charge at the enemies head-on.

Yeah I followed the game a bit talking to other gamers on another forum and they said it's not a game to just hack and slash your way through. I like those kind of games :zomg

Jammin
June 22, 2012, 12:19 PM
Yeah I followed the game a bit talking to other gamers on another forum and they said it's not a game to just hack and slash your way through. I like those kind of games :zomgIt's an amazing game. One of those old school games that makes no attempt at hand-holding. You will die over and over again. Which really makes you feel like progress is something you earned.

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I've been playing a lot of, I guess you'd call them, 2nd tier RPG's lately. White Knight Chronicles 2, Dragon's Dogma, and I'm about to fire up Two Worlds 2.

White Knight Chronicles 1&2 was just not very good. I love the "build your own town" thing but the rest of game was just..... Japanese in all the wrong places plus MMO style combat. Unfortunate.

Dragon's Dogma was loads of fun. The story portions and romance elements(of which there were a lot) need refinement but the gameplay and companion npc stuff was just a joy to play around with.

Two Worlds 2 I haven't played yet but I've heard the voice acting is pretty bad however if you can get past that supposedly the game underneath is pretty good. We'll see.

Crimson Null
August 09, 2012, 05:55 AM
I'm currently playing Final Fantasy XIII and lost odyssey

benelori
August 10, 2012, 10:03 AM
Upcoming witcher 2 mod tools (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/witcher-2-mod-tools-debuting-at-gamescom-6391024)....this is epic:wtf....I have no words

Shinsatsu
August 19, 2012, 04:15 PM
Two Worlds 2 ... the story is horrible. the voice acting is so bad. the gameplay is not that bad... And there are so few weapons and gear in the game.
I don't mean to bash ... But you shouldn't buy it IMO.

Jammin
August 19, 2012, 04:48 PM
Two Worlds 2 ... the story is horrible. the voice acting is so bad. the gameplay is not that bad... And there are so few weapons and gear in the game.
I don't mean to bash ... But you shouldn't buy it IMO.To late, but I totally agree. Complete waste of money. It's just not fun.

Shinsatsu
September 03, 2012, 07:31 AM
To late, but I totally agree. Complete waste of money. It's just not fun.
I cracked the DVD in half when I saw the ending. I wish I could warn u sooner ^^ but it's too late :shin

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Dark Souls = Perfect.

riki
September 03, 2012, 08:10 AM
Did you get the PC version, Shin?

kakashi919
September 03, 2012, 09:34 AM
I cracked the DVD in half when I saw the ending. I wish I could warn u sooner ^^ but it's too late :shin

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Dark Souls = Perfect.

How many times have you died? :3c

I died a lot.... more than I'm used to in any game :XD

riki
September 03, 2012, 10:18 AM
If you have trouble, go to this site (http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/). ^^

BTW, what class did you pick?

kakashi919
September 03, 2012, 10:59 AM
If you have trouble, go to this site (http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/). ^^

BTW, what class did you pick?

I refuse to use a walkthrough/guide until I finish the game first. :XD

I chose thief.. I always play as a thief in any RPG, no matter what. Imo it's the only class that makes a game more challenging. Warriors and Mages make it kinda easy, but the thief class always makes it challenging. Plus, you can turn into a ninja... A NINJA!!! :arf

Shinsatsu
September 03, 2012, 11:40 AM
Yes, I got the PC version.
I play a Thief.
I haven't died that much. I learned the basics and then everything became smooth ^^ (Just master parrying and you'll only worry about bosses).
The hardest part so far was against the combi of the fat and the nimble (that wasn't a spoiler ^^).
I didn't die VS alot of bosses:
- Taurus
- Seath the Scaleless
- Priscilla
- 4kings
- Sif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/shinakumax/1-6.png
Maybe because of my uber katana ? :P

kakashi919
September 03, 2012, 12:26 PM
Yes, I got the PC version.
I play a Thief.
I haven't died that much. I learned the basics and then everything became smooth ^^ (Just master parrying and you'll only worry about bosses).
The hardest part so far was against the combi of the fat and the nimble (that wasn't a spoiler ^^).
I didn't die VS alot of bosses:
- Taurus
- Seath the Scaleless
- Priscilla
- 4kings
- Sif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/shinakumax/1-6.png
Maybe because of my uber katana ? :P

The bosses are easy once you time dodging right. What kills me most of the time is the stupid lock on system that keeps changing targets and make me dodge the wrong way and fall of a cliff...

riki
September 03, 2012, 01:11 PM
LOL My brother picked the thief as well. :hi5

His method is to lure one enemy at a time and kill him. It takes time but he doesn't die that much.

kakashi919
September 04, 2012, 07:59 PM
OMFG just lost ten thousand souls... walked through a white light and ran into the capra demon, totally not expecting it. *sigh* now I have to go back to retrieve it :(

Jammin
September 04, 2012, 08:17 PM
The bosses are easy once you time dodging right. What kills me most of the time is the stupid lock on system that keeps changing targets and make me dodge the wrong way and fall of a cliff...You are a class of gamer above me then because the bosses in Demons Souls killed me a LOT. I lost count of the times I died on some boss fights.


OMFG just lost ten thousand souls... walked through a white light and ran into the capra demon, totally not expecting it. *sigh* now I have to go back to retrieve it :(I've been through that many times; the worst is when you get killed by another player on the way to get those souls; true heartbreak.

riki
September 04, 2012, 08:32 PM
That's why my brother plays offline ^^

Shinsatsu
September 04, 2012, 08:50 PM
I just killed Nito ^^ I didn't die VS him ... But I think he was so damn HARD o_O
15 flasks +4 is a bit too much.
+15 Iaito Katana
full +5 eastern armor set. I slapped him alot before he finally died ^^

kakashi919
September 04, 2012, 09:10 PM
You are a class of gamer above me then because the bosses in Demons Souls killed me a LOT. I lost count of the times I died on some boss fights.

I've been through that many times; the worst is when you get killed by another player on the way to get those souls; true heartbreak.

After playing Dark Souls, I believe my gaming skills aren't very good lol. I haven't gone online yet though.... people like to take advantage of beginners in a game and plus I'm sure there are a lot of hackers.

Gats
September 25, 2012, 03:30 PM
It's about old stuff but still :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ&feature=g-vrec
Shepard's reaction to the endings.
For those who played Mass Effect 3 and knew the original endings (before the extended cut).

:rofl

Shinsatsu
September 27, 2012, 06:12 PM
After playing Dark Souls twice, I can say that it's one of the best RPG games I have ever played. The game is full of lore and there are pieces of the story everywhere. It's a game for gamers who like to find out about the world and story by themselves without the help of obvious indications and cut-scenes.
I will never miss a Souls game from now on.

Borderlands is the next one on my list. I think it'll be ready by tomorrow. I hope it's good. There's a big hype about it; and that is not a good sign.

As for Dragon Age 3, I better keep my expectations to the ground because I had high hopes for the 2nd one when I saw the trailers and I received a boot to the face when I actually got the game.

Jammin
September 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
After playing Dark Souls twice, I can say that it's one of the best RPG games I have ever played. The game is full of lore and there are pieces of the story everywhere. It's a game for gamers who like to find out about the world and story by themselves without the help of obvious indications and cut-scenes.
I will never miss a Souls game from now on.

Borderlands is the next one on my list. I think it'll be ready by tomorrow. I hope it's good. There's a big hype about it; and that is not a good sign.

As for Dragon Age 3, I better keep my expectations to the ground because I had high hopes for the 2nd one when I saw the trailers and I received a boot to the face when I actually got the game.Yeah, Dark Souls and Demon Souls are two games that are fantastic and unique in terms of thier unforgiving difficulty as well as the satisfaction that comes along with everything you do. So hard, and so great.

As for Borderlands. I just now beat Borderlands 2 the first time, of what will be many. It has lived up to or exceeded every expectation I had. This is going to be a game I will be putting a lot of time into....

About Dragon Age 3....

I know I'm making a mistake but I really want to believe Bioware learned something. With Dragon Age 2 every time they released early details fans kept getting more and more worried about what they were doing. But they always just kinda said "It'll work out, you'll see." Then it released and we were all horrified to discover that it was everything we feared.

But they actually acknowledge 2's flaws, so hopefully that should mean they won't be doing the same thing over again.

And I LOVED Dragon Age Origins. So if they can actually make a sequel to the first game, instead of ActionRPG spin off, I'll be on board.

Shinsatsu
October 07, 2012, 11:52 AM
Indeed, Borderlands II was the funniest game I've played. The quotes are just awesome and the characters were so unique!
The game wasn't that hard at all. I finished it twice with both difficulties.

I uninstalled it just now, and turned my back to the screen ... LIKE A REAL BADASS !!!

yeah, and who needs a medical license when you got style... :jk

riki
October 17, 2012, 08:38 PM
If anyone in NA is interested, Atlus USA announced that Odin Sphere is discounted 50% off this week. I highly recommend it :thumbs

g0dzax
October 28, 2012, 02:46 PM
I finished for the 4th time now PlaneScape:Torment,and I still can't help but wonder how this game would have been if it would have come out now,with today's graphics and realistic combat systems,but with it's storyline,superb art and characters...even if it's old,it's still a masterpiece,it's amongst the BEST rpg's I've every played.


If you were to make a top 5(I wanted top 3,but it's impossible to decide just on 3) of your personal best RPG's,which ones would be there?For me it'd be these ones(the order DOES NOT matter):

1)The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind (+it's expansions)

2)Knights Of The Old Republic I & II

3)PlaneScape:Torment

4)The Witcher I & II

5) Dragon Age : Origins


Still haven't tried Borderlands 2,I've never been a fan of RPG's with technology,dunno why,it just seems not fun for me ^^.

Still praying to God that they make Kotor 3,Old Republic was a waste imo.Dragon Age 2 was hack'n'slash to the most extreme,dunno why they even labeled it RPG,and hopefully they actually learn from their mistakes and will make a DA 3 that is at least as awesome as the first one.


I tried playing Dark Souls,but god damn it,it's tough without a gamepad,I'm still having trouble with the control lol.

If anyone of you played Morrowind and loved the game and wished(like me)to visit not just the island of Morrowind in which the action takes place,but actually the whole Vvanderfell,google Tamriel : Rebuilt.It's a project that several modders are working on,and by it they are trying to rebuild in Morrowind & Oblio (I don't know if they worked on anything for Skyrim),places that aren't in the game,places in which you hear things about them,that you read in books about them,but simply are not in the game.It's best mod for a game that I've ever seen(I mean,just download the mod's there for Morrowind and you'll see just how much and how HUGE of a space they introduced in the game,almost as big as the island of Morrowind itself(and the island IS big,no joke).From what I remember,they had also started working on quests and characters,and they started introducing more info about the Dwarves,the mysterious species from Morrowind that left all these ruins,and that excited my interest and curiosity beyond anything in that game.

zelllogan
October 31, 2012, 02:09 PM
5 TOP RPG, hard to tell. I'm going to choose 5 RPG I played more than once from beginning to end.

- FF8: first FF I finished, probably the most important game of my "gaming" life. I'm not going to put 5 FF in my favourites but the truth is not very far from this.
- Skyrim: Most accomplished open-world RPG.
- Chrono Trigger: The Graal of the 16-bits era.
- Dragon Age Origins: Story + interractions between characters. Bioware & dialogues, BEST BY FAR.
- Suikoden 5: It might be a weird choice but it was a triumph of substance over form.

TheBoss
November 04, 2012, 06:54 PM
A top 5 rpg? So original xD
1- Chrono Trigger
2- Legend of Dragoon '-'
3- FFX
4- Diablo 1
5- The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons

Well I love ages too, but seasons come first xD
But my love for LoD is greater than the world '-'

Jammin
November 04, 2012, 07:10 PM
I like seeing that Legend of Dragoon and Suikoden got mentioned. Two phenomenal games.

For me the list goes.


Final Fantasy VII
Vanguard Bandits
Suikoden II
Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
Dragon Age: Origins


I love Borderlands and Borderlands 2 but for some reason I feel like any game you do loot-grinding in is automatically "out" of my top 10.

Shinsatsu
November 04, 2012, 08:09 PM
what an interesting idea. Here's my top 5:
1- Final Fantasy IX.
2- Dragon Age Origins.
3- .Hack trilogy.
4- The Last Remnant.
5- SKYRIM.

Emotional choices. There's no comment sense or anything in my top 5 but I went with the ones that made my heart race and made me spend countless hours in front of my screen.

kakashi919
November 05, 2012, 06:43 AM
Hmmmm... top 5
1.Final Fantasy series. (All the ones I played were awesome. Except 8 and X -_-
2.Chrono Trigger.
3. Legend of Dragoon
4. Dragon Age Origins
5. Senkein 3(probably spelt that wrong :XD)

g0dzax
November 05, 2012, 10:21 AM
Interesting choices.I ought to try some of the games you mentioned.


On another note,how do you guys feel about Cyberpunk 2077 ? Here (http://cyberpunk.net/) is the game's page(it was just made lol),and here (http://www.destructoid.com/cd-projekt-red-answers-a-few-questions-about-cyberpunk-232338.phtml) CD Projekt Red said a few things about the game and how it will be.If I were to predict how good Cyberpunk would be,then I need only take a look at The Witcher I&II,then imagine it combined with Deus Ex : Human Revolution.I expect the game to be soooo great :wtf.Just imagine,a cyberpunk game with the atmosphere & maturity specific to The Witcher...holy crap.Then again,it makes me wonder when we'll se The Witcher 3...

Jammin
November 05, 2012, 10:46 AM
what an interesting idea. Here's my top 5:
1- Final Fantasy IX.
2- Dragon Age Origins.
3- .Hack trilogy.
4- The Last Remnant.
5- SKYRIM.

Emotional choices. There's no comment sense or anything in my top 5 but I went with the ones that made my heart race and made me spend countless hours in front of my screen.".Hack trilogy" Good choice. Forgotten gems of the ps2 era.


Interesting choices.I ought to try some of the games you mentioned.


On another note,how do you guys feel about Cyberpunk 2077 ? Here (http://cyberpunk.net/) is the game's page(it was just made lol),and here (http://www.destructoid.com/cd-projekt-red-answers-a-few-questions-about-cyberpunk-232338.phtml) CD Projekt Red said a few things about the game and how it will be.If I were to predict how good Cyberpunk would be,then I need only take a look at The Witcher I&II,then imagine it combined with Deus Ex : Human Revolution.I expect the game to be soooo great :wtf.Just imagine,a cyberpunk game with the atmosphere & maturity specific to The Witcher...holy crap.Then again,it makes me wonder when we'll se The Witcher 3... It should be really good.

Though one thing I will be hoping for is a bit less definition of the main character than The Witcher II had. That was always a small issue with me and that game, as great as it was. The way the story branched allowed for a lot of decisions about what Geralt would do but "who he was" always felt like it was set in stone; if that makes sense. I'd love to see what CD Projekt Red could do with adding a bit more flexibility with the characters, like you had in the Old Republic games and Dragon Age: Origins.

zelllogan
November 05, 2012, 02:05 PM
Agreed with Jammin, Geralt have his own personality, you can not model him like Shepard (Mass effect series) for example (who can be a smart diplomat or a pragmatic bastard). But again, when we are talking about choices & dialogues, Bioware is far far above anyone.

Legend of dragoon had one big default: it came out at the same time as an FF.
It's also one of the few games I did more than once.

I forgot 3 gems in my list but I had the right to 5 only :): Valkyrie Profile 2 (I didn't get the change to play the first) & star ocean till the end of time & Grandia 2

TheBoss
November 05, 2012, 07:20 PM
Legend of Dragoon made part of my childhood alongside with the gba zeldas, and lots of ps1 games ^^
But the rpg that I replayed more times was Chrono without a doubt. On the other hand I never played Chrono Cross lol

You guys think the Silent hill series can be a kind of RPG too? or its more to japanese horror game?

kakashi919
November 05, 2012, 08:10 PM
Agreed with Jammin, Geralt have his own personality, you can not model him like Shepard (Mass effect series) for example (who can be a smart diplomat or a pragmatic bastard). But again, when we are talking about choices & dialogues, Bioware is far far above anyone.

Legend of dragoon had one big default: it came out at the same time as an FF.
It's also one of the few games I did more than once.

I forgot 3 gems in my list but I had the right to 5 only :): Valkyrie Profile 2 (I didn't get the change to play the first) & star ocean till the end of time & Grandia 2

Ah yes, Valkyrie Profile was awesome. The first one that is, though I played the PSP re-release. Haven't had the chance to play 2, but 1 was pretty awesome. For me, another fault to LoD was the magic system, it was pretty much useless once you had additions mastered.


Legend of Dragoon made part of my childhood alongside with the gba zeldas, and lots of ps1 games ^^
But the rpg that I replayed more times was Chrono without a doubt. On the other hand I never played Chrono Cross lol

You guys think the Silent hill series can be a kind of RPG too? or its more to japanese horror game?

Chrono Cross was a huge dissapointment to me... but I guess that's because I wanted it to be a continuation of Chrono Trigger.
I never played any Silent Hill, so I can't say.

Zeltrax
November 05, 2012, 08:30 PM
Top 5 :p
1. Final Fantasy VII series (inclusion of Crisis Core, so much awesome)
2. Persona 3
3. Star Ocean 2
4. Fallout 3
5. Dragon Age Origins.

Welp, I have a confession to make, I played Origins on the easiest mode possible hence it's so low :( and I'm too lazy and busy atm to play it again

Shinsatsu
November 06, 2012, 08:04 AM
Welp, I have a confession to make, I played Origins on the easiest mode possible hence it's so low :( and I'm too lazy and busy atm to play it again
OMG, Origins on Nightmare difficulty is so much fun. I can't imagine playing it on lower settings o_O You missed so much fun.

TheBoss
November 06, 2012, 08:50 AM
For me, another fault to LoD was the magic system, it was pretty much useless once you had additions mastered.

Chrono Cross was a huge dissapointment to me... but I guess that's because I wanted it to be a continuation of Chrono Trigger.
I never played any Silent Hill, so I can't say.
Hummm it depends. You mean the magic itens magic or the dragoon's magic?
Yeah when I heard about chrono cross it seemed almost like another game, so I lost the interest in it.
OMG you don't know what you are missing man. To me Silent hill stand as the best thriller\horror series of all the time, not only because of the scares but because of the deep plot.

Zasz
November 06, 2012, 11:12 AM
A Top 5 of RPG eh?

1) Final fantasy
2) Suikoden
3) The legend of Zelda
4) Pokemon (LOL after ages it still sells)
5) Golden Sun

That's it I guess, even tough there are many other excellent games. :verily

g0dzax
November 06, 2012, 01:30 PM
OMG you don't know what you are missing man. To me Silent hill stand as the best thriller\horror series of all the time, not only because of the scares but because of the deep plot.

Yeah,I know why you'd think Silent Hill is the best horror series of all the time,and especially the plot is it's main point and it all revolves around the plot,but I wouldn't consider Silent Hill an RPG,I'd rather think of it as a horror-adventure game.I played them too,and often I found myself trying to understand the story 'cause it's really confusing at times.

On a side-note,if you enjoyed Silent Hill,you ought to try the Penumbra series or Amnesia The Dark Descent and Call Of Cthulhu : Dark Corners Of The Earth.Call Of Cthulhu is,for me,the best horror out there,on the hardest difficulty you lack everything in there,ammo is so scarce you'd think twice before firing a gun,and the thing you'll lack the most is mental sanity.Definetely,definetely a must-play game.I guarantee you'll love it :verily.


Welp, I have a confession to make, I played Origins on the easiest mode possible hence it's so low and I'm too lazy and busy atm to play it again

I'd recommend you always try to play RPG at their hardest difficulty,many of them are much more entertaining that way.

TheBoss
November 06, 2012, 06:24 PM
Yeah,I know why you'd think Silent Hill is the best horror series of all the time,and especially the plot is it's main point and it all revolves around the plot,but I wouldn't consider Silent Hill an RPG,I'd rather think of it as a horror-adventure game.I played them too,and often I found myself trying to understand the story 'cause it's really confusing at times.

On a side-note,if you enjoyed Silent Hill,you ought to try the Penumbra series or Amnesia The Dark Descent and Call Of Cthulhu : Dark Corners Of The Earth.Call Of Cthulhu is,for me,the best horror out there,on the hardest difficulty you lack everything in there,ammo is so scarce you'd think twice before firing a gun,and the thing you'll lack the most is mental sanity.Definetely,definetely a must-play game.I guarantee you'll love it :verily.

Amnesia is fucking cool, and I'll look for the Call Of Cthulhu to see how it is xD
But yeah I don't think it fits as rpg too, only wanted to take that off my chest.
If you found Silent hill's plot hard to understand try Sanitarium (http://www.gamespot.com/sanitarium/) lol This game will make you schizophrenic D:

I never played FF7, am I missing something? :derp

kakashi919
November 06, 2012, 10:23 PM
Hummm it depends. You mean the magic itens magic or the dragoon's magic?
Yeah when I heard about chrono cross it seemed almost like another game, so I lost the interest in it.
OMG you don't know what you are missing man. To me Silent hill stand as the best thriller\horror series of all the time, not only because of the scares but because of the deep plot.

The Dragoon Magic...it was pointless once you had the additions. I never had trouble with any boss in that game... except the secret boss. I don't really like horror games....though Dead Space is an exception, I rather RPG or tactical games. Resident Evil for example, I've only liked 4, 5 was really frustrating because of the AI partnership. Turn based RPG is more my style.

g0dzax
November 07, 2012, 09:38 AM
Amnesia is fucking cool, and I'll look for the Call Of Cthulhu to see how it is xD
But yeah I don't think it fits as rpg too, only wanted to take that off my chest.
If you found Silent hill's plot hard to understand try Sanitarium lol This game will make you schizophrenic D:

I never played FF7, am I missing something?

I did hear about Sanitarium,but never played it.It seems to be a really great,so I think I'll try to make some time to play,I haven't played a good horror game in some time,plus I enjoy getting scared.[that sounded really weird...lol]

I remember trying to play an FF game 2 or 3 years ago and I was like :arf I can't play this kind of game.Since then I've tried avoiding the FF series,dunno why though.(I just know I had a bad time playing that game)so I can't say anything about the series...



I don't really like horror games....though Dead Space is an exception, I rather RPG or tactical games. Resident Evil for example, I've only liked 4, 5 was really frustrating because of the AI partnership. Turn based RPG is more my style.

Dead Space is really good,I've never liked Resident Evil though -just zombie-slaughtering...Also,I've lost my apetite for turn-based RPG's,besides the old-school ones I try to avoid turn-based(and except Septerra Core - Legacy Of The Creator ,I played that game solely for the plot,didn't take anything else into consideration).

Jammin
November 07, 2012, 10:43 AM
I never played FF7, am I missing something? :derphttp://www.laymark.com/l/o/15.gif

Play it. Seriously. Final Fantasy 7 was Squares first real foray into graphically sexy RPG's, and by far the best IMO. Story, Art Direction, Music, Combat system, even Humor; it had it all. To play it and then play Fanal Fantasy XIII is to know how low the Final Fantasy Series has fallen in recent years. And to see the recent games for what they are...polished turds.

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Bit a different subject but....


"What currently releasing RPG's series does everybody look forward to most."

Being an RPG fan can be tough sometimes. Konami's bewildering refusal to make another real Suikoden game is like a punch to my man-berries. Capcom's(I meant "Sega's") refusal to release an English version of Valkyrie Chronicles 3 is like a knee to my kidney. Sitting down to play the last Final Fantasy game was like having Square-Enix throw sand in my eyes; and making 2 sequels was like kicking me in each shin afterwards. The list goes on and on....

So what series, more than any other, keeps you holding on?http://www.laymark.com/l/o/93.gif



Edit: riki was right. Sega is the one responsible for Valkyrie Chronicles 3

riki
November 07, 2012, 10:48 AM
^I thought it was Sega who developed Valkyria Chronicles 3. ^^;

To answer your question, it's not a part of a series but the game I wanted the most is Grand Knights History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Knights_History). It was supposed to be published over here, but unfortunately, VanillaWare has to focus on saving its other game, Dragon's Crown, so they didn't provide any game development resources to XSeed. The thing that sucks is that XSeed has completed the translation too. ;_;

Jammin
November 07, 2012, 10:55 AM
^I thought it was Sega who developed Valkyria Chronicles 3. ^^;

To answer your question, it's not a part of a series but the game I wanted the most is Grand Knights History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Knights_History). It was supposed to be published over here, but unfortunately, VanillaWare has to focus on saving its other game, Dragon's Crown, so they didn't provide any game development resources to XSeed. The thing that sucks is that XSeed has completed the translation too. ;_;Yeah, your right Sega was responsible for that. Capcom was responsible for Breath of Fire; which is actually even worse(no new game for over a decade)

As Grand Knights History, damn. I didn't realize that had been cancelled. Seriously, someone give use RPG fans hope!

Hardy
November 07, 2012, 10:56 AM
I never played FF7, am I missing something? :derp

I feel exactly like G0dzax, I tried to play the game but I couldn't (seriously, those random encounters piss me off really bad). If you are into RPGs, you'll probably like it, if not... well, you can still have faith :XD

kakashi919
November 07, 2012, 12:12 PM
Honestly, I want Camelot to make a Golden Sun for the Wii or WiiU. It's my favourite handheld gaming series, simply awesome. I love Final Fantasy, but they don't make it with the same depth as they used to. Part of FF's charm was getting every ultimate weapon/accessory and finding all the secrets, it just doesn't have that charm anymore.

g0dzax
November 07, 2012, 01:42 PM
"What currently releasing RPG's series does everybody look forward to most."

Well...tbh I lost hope in almost all the RPG series.The only series to whom I still look forward to is The Witcher...because the 2nd one was better than the first one definitely,and that's how games should normally evolve imo.I'd like to say I look forward to DA 3...but DA 2 totally killed all hope for me.There is this one thing still stuck in my mind,couldn't they have made more than 2 dungeons designs?Everyone dungeon I entered looked the freaking same way...The Gothic series(1 and 2 were brilliant RPG's)went down since the 3rd installment,Arcania : A Gothic Tale,I played solely for the fact that it's part of the series,'cause it really bored me.There is though another game I really look forward to : Star Wars 1313 ,check this video (www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQyGu4EqZsU).I really hope it'll be like the old Knights Of The Old Republic,even though it seems to be an action game,it's got a classic RPG system...from the video for me it looked good enough to put my hopes in it.

Regarding Capcom,at the GamesCom 2012 they presented their newest game they are working on - Remember Me (www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QqI590COEc),a pretty interesting game(a combination of stealth+action+rpg),set in the future,where you are a young lady [lol] trying to regain her erased memories,memories who were erased by her former employees Memoreyes,a company specialized in altering memories.Seems like you've got memory hunter abilities in which you can modify your tagert's memories up to the point where the target can be pushed towards suicid.That's some pretty weird shit.

And another game they announced for quite a while,DmC : Devil May Cry (no really,that's the full name of the,including the DmC part,wonder how they got this original title from lol).It's still about Dante,just in a parallel reality where he is in a city(Limbo) under attack.The fans were divided into 2 groups : those claiming Capcom has killed the series and those who are on Capcom's side.Though,I did read something really funny,it seems that some fans even went as as far as threatening with death the creative director of the game - Tameem Antoniades.LOL now that's fans gone mad.

I know Remember Me and DmC aren't really RPG's,but then again,RPG can mean a different thing for each people.For example,for me an RPG is a game with a nice story,nice plot,leveling system and an open-ended world(well...at least a little bit) and interesting characters,that have some depth in them,and not just random NPC's.

Oh,just remember,Interplay revived Black Isle,so I hope that means we might get another Baldur's Gate or possibly Fallout game :wtf (just wishes though,they sold the Fallout license to Bethesda,who made Fallout 3,which is actually just Oblivion with guns imo).


Edit : Just remembered something THIS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUcUz5Vo6iw).And it's also coming on the pc!:3c

riki
November 07, 2012, 02:00 PM
As Grand Knights History, damn. I didn't realize that had been cancelled. Seriously, someone give use RPG fans hope!

What kingdom would you choose btw? I would pick Union. ^^

IIRC, someone asked if they could put it on Steam (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/10/31/so-we-asked-marvelous-aql-about-bringing-grand-knights-history-to-steam/) and they said that they're considering it.

Jammin
November 07, 2012, 02:36 PM
What kingdom would you choose btw? I would pick Union. ^^

IIRC, someone asked if they could put it on Steam (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/10/31/so-we-asked-marvelous-aql-about-bringing-grand-knights-history-to-steam/) and they said that they're considering it.I don't know enough about it to really say for sure I just saw it on a list of potential psp releases a while back and thought it looked pretty cool.

From what I'm reading Kingdom of Knights probably... but I don't know.

It would be cool if they put it on steam but I don't know how well that would work for psp game. They really just need to change their mind about releasing it on psp. I mean, the English translation is already done they need to lock a couple of programmers in a closet somewhere and get that finished.

It especially hurts because I don't care, in the least, about it Dragon's Crown.

benelori
November 07, 2012, 03:00 PM
Dragon Age 3 is the choice for me...on the short term...I've read the books, watched the anime...and I'm replaying the games so I'm hyped...the books offer so much background to the games, it's unbelievable...

On the long run...Witcher I guess, Cyberpunk too...

Read the Witcher novel and sort story collection as well...it's just awesome

kakashi919
November 07, 2012, 03:42 PM
I don't know enough about it to really say for sure I just saw it on a list of potential psp releases a while back and thought it looked pretty cool.

From what I'm reading Kingdom of Knights probably... but I don't know.

It would be cool if they put it on steam but I don't know how well that would work for psp game. They really just need to change their mind about releasing it on psp. I mean, the English translation is already done they need to lock a couple of programmers in a closet somewhere and get that finished.

It especially hurts because I don't care, in the least, about it Dragon's Crown.

If the Ys series can be a success on steam then this will be no exception.

Hardy
November 07, 2012, 05:05 PM
Probably you all know this, but anyways I'm posting this here :3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZE-yxDoLsk&feature=relmfu

Looks so cool!

kakashi919
November 07, 2012, 06:18 PM
Bleh! Skyrim is so overrated imo :mono

TheBoss
November 07, 2012, 07:20 PM
Bleh! Skyrim is so overrated imo :mono
Nah man, the first 200 hours I played it were the best hours I spent in a game since a long time.

kakashi919
November 07, 2012, 07:53 PM
Nah man, the first 200 hours I played it were the best hours I spent in a game since a long time.

Well, I guess it's because I'm not a fan of Wester Rpg. Dragon Age Origins was the only one I loved and enjoyed. I've tried Witcher and Fable, but they never got me hooked like Origins.

Hardy
November 08, 2012, 12:14 PM
Bleh! Skyrim is so overrated imo :mono

Uchiha's ass is overrated :arf

g0dzax
November 10, 2012, 10:05 AM
Nah man, the first 200 hours I played it were the best hours I spent in a game since a long time.

My first hundred hours were spent with The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind.I tried at the time to finish every quest out there,but I simply wasn't able to,the game is freakin' huge.


Still waiting since summer for a good RPG to show up.I wonder when the producers will throw us something good...most of 'em don't even make pure RPG's,most of the RPG's have become action-RPG's(best example is DA 2),where the role-playing system comes second after action...this way,the pure RPG by itself may even disappear lol.

TheBoss
November 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
My first hundred hours were spent with The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind.I tried at the time to finish every quest out there,but I simply wasn't able to,the game is freakin' huge.


Still waiting since summer for a good RPG to show up.I wonder when the producers will throw us something good...most of 'em don't even make pure RPG's,most of the RPG's have become action-RPG's(best example is DA 2),where the role-playing system comes second after action...this way,the pure RPG by itself may even disappear lol.
True, as much I'm not a real fan of turn-based rpg they had its charm. Its like the "RPG" in it were more evident.
To me RPG is all about making you feel the storyline, like it was you that was living it, and not a mere pastime.
For a example, now years after I played Leg. of Dragoon I still remeber the characters and the storyline perfectly. And I still love to play it xD

riki
November 19, 2012, 11:19 PM
Seeing all of these reviews (http://gematsu.com/2012/11/persona-4-golden-reviews-rounded-up) for Persona 4 Golden is making me so excited :wtf

kakashi919
November 20, 2012, 06:38 AM
Seeing all of these reviews (http://gematsu.com/2012/11/persona-4-golden-reviews-rounded-up) for Persona 4 Golden is making me so excited :wtf

Too bad its for Vita :/

riki
November 20, 2012, 07:06 AM
LOL That's why I'm getting a Vita :XD

kakashi919
November 20, 2012, 07:44 AM
They should make a WiiU version :D Then I'll get it

Crude
December 01, 2012, 12:22 AM
I'm thinking of buying Oblivion's 5th Anniversary Edition for the PC since I've been wanting to replay the game for a while now (and properly this time). Can anyone suggest the best mods, ones that make it a better game and add to the experience?

cearon
December 01, 2012, 04:35 AM
well i cant say these will work for the 5th ann. version since i have game of the year edition i uesd,

unofficial patch: almost fixes every bug in the game

deadly reflex: makes combat easier

Midas Magic Spells of Aurum: more like a DLC than a mod, has new quests spells and if i recall correctly turns eemies to gold

DarNified UI: makes things better especially in HUD.

Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul: this makes battles more relatable. it give you the ability to tweak areas level and new items and monsters...

there r many more but most r either aesthetic or not so essential for me. (these r the top of my head... since i got bored with skyrim and returned to oblivion. :) )

g0dzax
December 01, 2012, 05:01 AM
Well,the best site for getting all the mods would be : http://oblivion.nexusmods.com .Just make an account there and you'll be able to download everything you want.Use the files bar up to go to top files,which are usually the most downloaded & appreciated mods.If anything,I'd recommend first installing the Oblivion Mod Manager(or something like that) to manage your mods properly.The OBSE (oblivion script extender) is also a must for many mods.My advise would be when choosing a mod,to read it's description all the way,so you can see if it requires other mods or if it is incompatible with other mods.


I'd recommend the Natural Environments , the Oblivion Unoficial Patch(fixex a HUGE load of bugs & other stuff,though I personally didn't install it thinking it would conflict with the official patches,later I found out that there is no risk though you may want to read it's description) , Midas Magic Spells of Aurum (adds a huge load of spells and quests and modifies the magic system a bit )...and there are many others,just search on the site above :) .


I'm thinking of buying the Witcher 2 (maybe I'll find some editions to it ) or another RPG though I simply can not decide which one.It's more like a Christmas gift to myself lol,just so I can spend my free time in a good RPG that will hook me up.Besides The Witcher 2 I can not even think of another,Skyrim goes out of the question (I'm more for atmosphere than just a huge open world,though don't get me wrong,Skyrim was awesome)and then...my mind is blank.Any suggestions ?

cearon
December 01, 2012, 06:42 AM
well witcher 2 is great. if you want mood, i will go with Deus Ex:Human Revolution. it is a prequel to the original Deus Ex.
not exactly RPG but more in the vein of Ass.Creed Dishonored. has a very good story, i wished its RPG genes had been more tuned but the game itself is awesome.
I didnt played the PC version but the PS3 Dark Souls. It is immensely hard and well was great for me.

Doraku
December 01, 2012, 11:25 PM
Seeing all of these reviews (http://gematsu.com/2012/11/persona-4-golden-reviews-rounded-up) for Persona 4 Golden is making me so excited :wtf

It's a great game, I bought it several days ago, and it does not disappoint. I never play the Persona 4 before, and I really enjoy it. The problem I have with the game is only the micromanaging aspect of the daily life, since it is quite difficult for me to allocate some time for leveling and increasing social links if you don't have a plan.

Bottom line : It's a game really worth buying, and if you have to buy Vita only to play this game, I guess that Vita would be worth your money.

benelori
December 04, 2012, 02:19 PM
Skyrim's Dragonborn DLC is out...and the spears...such excitement is unparalleled...:fail

riki
December 04, 2012, 03:00 PM
It's a great game, I bought it several days ago, and it does not disappoint. I never play the Persona 4 before, and I really enjoy it. The problem I have with the game is only the micromanaging aspect of the daily life, since it is quite difficult for me to allocate some time for leveling and increasing social links if you don't have a plan.

Bottom line : It's a game really worth buying, and if you have to buy Vita only to play this game, I guess that Vita would be worth your money.

Where are you at in the game? I just saved Kanji.

:offtopic I can PM you my PSN ID if you want. ^^

Doraku
December 04, 2012, 05:15 PM
Where are you at in the game? I just saved Kanji.

:offtopic I can PM you my PSN ID if you want. ^^

I'm just finished saving Rise and Teddie. The most difficult part is yet to come for you. :p

:offtopic sure! :)

riki
December 07, 2012, 03:23 PM
Yeah, I figured. I watched MasterLL's gameplay on yt so I somewhat know what to expect. Right now I'm Level 29 though I probably will level grind a bit before challenging them.

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Oh I almost forgot but the demo for Ni no Kuni is out on PSN.

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Sweet! It looks like Devil Survivor 2 may or may not have a Overclocked
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/07/wait-a-second-atlus-is-teasing-another-devil-survivor-2-project/. ^^

However, it will have an anime (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/07/devil-survivor-2-getting-anime-adaptation-in-april/) adaptation (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/07/devil-survivor-2-anime-teaser-gives-a-glimpse-of-the-upcoming-show/) which will air in April next year.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4sVdj8ee42g

Shinsatsu
December 07, 2012, 06:44 PM
Far Cry 3 sux.
skills and xp? that is not enough to reach RPG level.

Jammin
December 07, 2012, 10:28 PM
Far Cry 3 sux.
skills and xp? that is not enough to reach RPG level.I'm enjoying it. It's basically "Rambo the game" where you run around to avenging and rescuing the main characters friends. All the while free roaming around and killing tons, and tons, and TONS of pirates.

It's kind of a shame that the story....isn't very good. I'm nowhere near beating it yet but so far it just feels like nothing comes together on the narrative front. The decision to make all the local characters crazy was highly questionable. Clearly, whoever wrote this thing LOVED the movie "Apocalypse Now". Personally, I would have preferred they focused on more on few more sympathetic characters which would at the very least create a sense of contrast.

Instead, it just keeps going through crazy characters you just want to kill; if only to make them finally shut up. Which is probably the point. Since the game seems to want to be about a good intentioned main character slowly drifting onto the darker side of the moral spectrum.

I think that was a bit of a missed opportunity. If it had given you a little more choice about "who you fight for" and "why you fight for them" I think it could have been really good.

Shinsatsu
December 08, 2012, 08:18 AM
The only good thing left in all new RPG games is the fact that you can make your own decisions and choose between different paths. If you take that away from an open world game, the only thing left is the shooting and that will make it just another FPS.

Personally, I find Far Cry 3 repetitive and has an extremely low replay value. I also hated the main character (your typical wuss in the woods). As you mentioned, they tried to make a story where someone drifts from a normal life to a twisted one with his own free will. They also tried to tell us that harsh experiences can change people's hearts ... etc. But it was executed poorly.

I have no complaints about the graphics and the game-play, except for some minor terrain glitches... I think I'm at 80% or 90%. So, I might change my mind if there's a big twist waiting at the end.

So far the best part in the game is when you listen to the pirates dialogues and hear this "it hurts like a motha when I piss, I shoul've used the rubba" :lmao

Jammin
December 08, 2012, 08:57 AM
The only good thing left in all new RPG games is the fact that you can make your own decisions and choose between different paths. If you take that away from an open world game, the only thing left is the shooting and that will make it just another FPS.

Personally, I find Far Cry 3 repetitive and has an extremely low replay value. I also hated the main character (your typical wuss in the woods). As you mentioned, they tried to make a story where someone drifts from a normal life to a twisted one with his own free will. They also tried to tell us that harsh experiences can change people's hearts ... etc. But it was executed poorly.

I have no complaints about the graphics and the game-play, except for some minor terrain glitches... I think I'm at 80% or 90%. So, I might change my mind if there's a big twist waiting at the end.

So far the best part in the game is when you listen to the pirates dialogues and hear this "it hurts like a motha when I piss, I shoul've used the rubba" :lmaoThat's fair.

Though I have taken a lot of joy from the crisp stealth mechanics and how smooth the gameplay is. It definitely is more of a shooter than it is an RPG all things considered. The real fun though is the exploring, hunting, taking outposts, knife assassination missions. The story missions are basically crap.

I guess, I haven't found it as repetitive as you though. I was always pretty pleased with the variety of things you can do and differing environments you can do them in. My only real complaint is the story and the characters which are just not very good.

riki
December 16, 2012, 07:46 AM
Some more info (http://gematsu.com/2012/12/dark-souls-ii-detailed-in-edge) on Dark Soul II has been posted.

Shinsatsu
December 16, 2012, 07:50 PM
Some more info (http://gematsu.com/2012/12/dark-souls-ii-detailed-in-edge) on Dark Soul II has been posted.
I feel bad about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB0LXzDfLKs

riki
December 19, 2012, 12:35 PM
^ The part that makes me nervous was the fact they want the story to be less subtle. That was one of the best part of Dark Souls imo

More Dark Soul II info (http://gematsu.com/2012/12/dark-souls-iis-keyword-is-time) is up

Jammin
December 19, 2012, 12:54 PM
I'm not really sure what to think.

I mean, Dark Souls had a pretty specific appeal. The mystery and the subtlety were a huge part of it. So I'm not entirely sure it's possible to broaden the appeal in they way these details seem to indicate they intend without losing much of that. I'm of the mind that a Dark Souls experience should be dark, quiet, and solitary. You feel very much like your are exploring a dangerous world by yourself, on your own terms, and the fun is in conquering it.

It's one of those rare games where I think more story and stronger characters would be a disservice. I think it could still be a fun game and maybe even a great RPG, but it won't be "like Dark Souls".

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Something I'll be keeping an eye on is the online aspect. Part of the fun of Dark Souls was that other players were strangers with whom you mostly communicated through actions. I'd hate to see that change.

Much like in Journey that sense of unknown really made it seem special.

Shinsatsu
December 19, 2012, 03:04 PM
They seek more money and a larger audience to make MORE CASH. It's a shame. The Souls games have a special place in my heart. I don't think that this one is going to be one of them.

riki
January 02, 2013, 10:22 PM
Some more concepts (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/20/dark-souls-ii-concept-art-shows-ghastly-monsters/)of Dark Souls II have been posted

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Some more Dark Souls II info (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/01/02/dark-souls-ii-to-have-slightly-larger-world-wont-be-open-world/):

- The world will be slightly larger though it won't be an open world (my brother thinks it'll be like Demon's Souls)
- There will be a game server
- No weapon or item DLCs
- They want to stay true to the original game but makes upgrades to it

Ju-da-su
January 04, 2013, 10:44 AM
...Another RPG'er here, since tbh, I only play RPG games...I don't like any other kind of games.

But again, judging from the comments here, guess I probably won't be able to stand in all that much, taken that I only play JRPG...in original Japanese only. Not to mention, I'm mainstreamed specifically on Tales series (currently am playing Tales of Xillia 2 and Tales of Innocence R, which of both are still Japanese only...Tales of Xillia 2 is awesome so far though...except for the fact that the protagonist is too silent, while judging from most of the choices we're given, he should be able to talk a lot more than this...but with this, he's even more silent than a certain protagonist of a game in this series who's known for being a quiet character yet can always endlessly scream a name of his loved one. Other than that, at least it feels better than its prequel for me. Tales of Xillia...wasn't all that much story-wise really, but Tales of Xillia 2 just has a lot better touch than it. As for Tales of Innocence R...nothing much really. I played the original one, and actually didn't really like it. Bought PSV just for P4G, so I figured I'll grab this one as well...but so far, it doesn't really impress me all that much. ._."), and only occasionally jump to other series...like Final Fantasy (XIII sucks so bad I don't want to buy its sequel though...I didn't even complete XIII yet) and Persona (In love with Persona 4. Got Golden. Played it. Cleared it. Currently on second playthrough to max out all the social links, since I completely missed Mary's and Adachi's S.link in my first one...-_-")

Jammin
January 04, 2013, 11:34 AM
...Another RPG'er here, since tbh, I only play RPG games...I don't like any other kind of games.

But again, judging from the comments here, guess I probably won't be able to stand in all that much, taken that I only play JRPG...in original Japanese only. Not to mention, I'm mainstreamed specifically on Tales series (currently am playing Tales of Xillia 2 and Tales of Innocence R, which of both are still Japanese only...Tales of Xillia 2 is awesome so far though...except for the fact that the protagonist is too silent, while judging from most of the choices we're given, he should be able to talk a lot more than this...but with this, he's even more silent than a certain protagonist of a game in this series who's known for being a quiet character yet can always endlessly scream a name of his loved one. Other than that, at least it feels better than its prequel for me. Tales of Xillia...wasn't all that much story-wise really, but Tales of Xillia 2 just has a lot better touch than it. As for Tales of Innocence R...nothing much really. I played the original one, and actually didn't really like it. Bought PSV just for P4G, so I figured I'll grab this one as well...but so far, it doesn't really impress me all that much. ._."), and only occasionally jump to other series...like Final Fantasy (XIII sucks so bad I don't want to buy its sequel though...I didn't even complete XIII yet) and Persona (In love with Persona 4. Got Golden. Played it. Cleared it. Currently on second playthrough to max out all the social links, since I completely missed Mary's and Adachi's S.link in my first one...-_-")I'm so jealous of your ability to play understand Japanese and play those games.

Have you played Valkyrie Chronicles 3 by chance. I'm dying to play that game but Sega just won't let me.(Localize it you bastards!:shakefist)

Ju-da-su
January 04, 2013, 08:27 PM
I'm so jealous of your ability to play understand Japanese and play those games.

Have you played Valkyrie Chronicles 3 by chance. I'm dying to play that game but Sega just won't let me.(Localize it you bastards!:shakefist)

Sorry, while I've heard of its name, I never played it. As I said, ever since I came to know Tales and becomes its fan, I actually only focus on that series only and only jumped to a few numbers of other RPG series, like Final Fantasy (though I think that series is declining, really. I like X best in the series, just because I never played anything before that...hate XII and XIII a lot though), Kingdom Hearts (still am playing Dream Drop Distance...in fact, only at the start of it. I only got to the second world...-_-") and Persona (already said about that...love P4, got Vita just for P4G and everything else is an add-on to it)...and Pokemon (completely forgot...-_-"). Never really go out of these, since I don't really have that much time to be completing the game in these series that I already have already even. I didn't even start Tales of Graces F yet (though I'm playing Japanese one anyway) even though I bought it more than one year ago (but again, partly because I played the Wii version...and got to be honest, the main story is meh. I only bought ToGf because I heard Richard became a real piece of cracker in the future arc and that's all... .__.")

Jammin
January 04, 2013, 08:57 PM
Sorry, while I've heard of its name, I never played it. As I said, ever since I came to know Tales and becomes its fan, I actually only focus on that series only and only jumped to a few numbers of other RPG series, like Final Fantasy (though I think that series is declining, really. I like X best in the series, just because I never played anything before that...hate XII and XIII a lot though), Kingdom Hearts (still am playing Dream Drop Distance...in fact, only at the start of it. I only got to the second world...-_-") and Persona (already said about that...love P4, got Vita just for P4G and everything else is an add-on to it)...and Pokemon (completely forgot...-_-"). Never really go out of these, since I don't really have that much time to be completing the game in these series that I already have already even. I didn't even start Tales of Graces F yet (though I'm playing Japanese one anyway) even though I bought it more than one year ago (but again, partly because I played the Wii version...and got to be honest, the main story is meh. I only bought ToGf because I heard Richard became a real piece of cracker in the future arc and that's all... .__.")Ah, pity.

Persona and the Tales series are good choices though. I try to give as many JRPG's that get logalized into English at least a shot and if I had to pick two series that have held up the best in recent those would what I'd choose most likely. Even though I wasn't a huge fan of the Tales of Graces f. The character in that game just didn't do it for me after the time skip.

I'm with you on Final Fantasy too. They lower the number the better game until at least VIII (I would argue VII).

As for the Tales series do you know if any of those games besides Symphonia had the multiple love interest story branching? That's one of the thing I've enjoyed most about the Persona series and I had hoped after Symphonia's success they would work more with that but they haven't seemed to. I feel puzzled that more JRPG's don't use that. Bioware games in general and the Persona have proven how successful that can be.

Zeltrax
January 05, 2013, 11:17 PM
Did someone just said Valkyria Chronicles? :zomg
Currently playing the first one for the first time on the ps3,Played it till Isara's death atm I have to say this game really did lived up to all the praises people have been giving it. It's so good that I'm kindda wondering whether I should get a psp or vita just to play VC 2.
And Sega is being dumb as usual for not bringing VC3 over for whatever reasons...VC3 just looks so epic.
Should I get Tales of Vesperia or Graces first?
I've also bought Dark Souls and just got passed the first boss, going to finish VC first before continuing on this unforgivable game.

Jammin
January 05, 2013, 11:49 PM
Did someone just said Valkyria Chronicles? :zomg
Currently playing the first one for the first time on the ps3,Played it till Isara's death atm I have to say this game really did lived up to all the praises people have been giving it. It's so good that I'm kindda wondering whether I should get a psp or vita just to play VC 2.
And Sega is being dumb as usual for not bringing VC3 over for whatever reasons...VC3 just looks so epic.
Should I get Tales of Vesperia or Graces first?
I've also bought Dark Souls and just got passed the first boss, going to finish VC first before continuing on this unforgivable game.For what it's worth, VC2 is actually a lot better in my opinion. And I loved Valkyria Chronicles.:nod

Mainly because it has a kind of school based system. Where your deploy choose missions and deploy from a military school; giving everything a much less linear feel (though, sadly, the main story doesn't branch). There are also "events" with characters that happen in the school which allows you to build up relationships between them, which lead to missions. Sadly, it's not non-linear like the system Fire Emblem uses but it's a step in that direction.

That's one of the reasons I was asking Ju-da-su about it. I'm curious if 3 went back to linear or expanded the non-linear structure or went back to something more similar to the first one.

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Though after looking it up I looks like we'll be able to play 3 even if Sega categorically refuses to make money off me. Fan Translation Project to the rescue! (http://vc3translationproject.wordpress.com/)

Zeltrax
January 06, 2013, 06:10 AM
That looks like it's going to be complete, wow...now I'm seriously thinking of getting VC2 & 3.
But I would need to get a psp. I did play VC2 before back then I didn't know how great it was..it was just one of the games I pirated tbh.
I remember the setting was in the miltary school and the protagonist being vastly different from VC1 but that's all I remember, I never actually got to the third or fourth mission in that game.

I have a question though, is VC2 purchasable/downloadable on vita atm?

Shinsatsu
January 06, 2013, 09:16 AM
it was just one of the games I pirated tbh.
And you feel bad about that? ... You should take a look at my collection ... you'll never feel bad after that :lmao
http://s3.amazonaws.com/gigsalad_media/e/exactJack/4bdf400346d8a_large_sq

kakashi919
January 13, 2013, 01:35 AM
Ah, pity.

Persona and the Tales series are good choices though. I try to give as many JRPG's that get logalized into English at least a shot and if I had to pick two series that have held up the best in recent those would what I'd choose most likely. Even though I wasn't a huge fan of the Tales of Graces f. The character in that game just didn't do it for me after the time skip.

I'm with you on Final Fantasy too. They lower the number the better game until at least VIII (I would argue VII).

As for the Tales series do you know if any of those games besides Symphonia had the multiple love interest story branching? That's one of the thing I've enjoyed most about the Persona series and I had hoped after Symphonia's success they would work more with that but they haven't seemed to. I feel puzzled that more JRPG's don't use that. Bioware games in general and the Persona have proven how successful that can be.

The first time I played Persona 3, I was hooked... it was a really great RPG and the socialising and love aspect of the game really got me into it. But then my save file got corrupted... and I couldn't go through all that hard work again :( Started 4 the other day though, pretty much the same effect as the first time I played 3 lol.

As for Tales, I don't think there was any that had the multiple love story stuff. I've played almost all and none of them really had what you're looking for. Symphonia 2 was way too childish for me to finish, it got so annoying later into the story I got fed up. The characters, the voice overs,the dialogue....god I can't stand that game again. The best for me would always be Phantasia though, its one of my top 5 RPGs ever.

Jammin
January 13, 2013, 05:31 PM
That looks like it's going to be complete, wow...now I'm seriously thinking of getting VC2 & 3.
But I would need to get a psp. I did play VC2 before back then I didn't know how great it was..it was just one of the games I pirated tbh.
I remember the setting was in the miltary school and the protagonist being vastly different from VC1 but that's all I remember, I never actually got to the third or fourth mission in that game.

I have a question though, is VC2 purchasable/downloadable on vita atm?It is, at least that's what this articles says. (http://aliciasbakery.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/sony-has-announced-psp-games-that-will.html)

The protagonist from the first game shows up during VC2, along with some other familiar faces. I really can't recommend VC2 enough.


The first time I played Persona 3, I was hooked... it was a really great RPG and the socialising and love aspect of the game really got me into it. But then my save file got corrupted... and I couldn't go through all that hard work again :( Started 4 the other day though, pretty much the same effect as the first time I played 3 lol.

As for Tales, I don't think there was any that had the multiple love story stuff. I've played almost all and none of them really had what you're looking for. Symphonia 2 was way too childish for me to finish, it got so annoying later into the story I got fed up. The characters, the voice overs,the dialogue....god I can't stand that game again. The best for me would always be Phantasia though, its one of my top 5 RPGs ever. I never played Symphonia 2 but i've never played a Tales game I didn't like.

The ones I've played are..

Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny 2
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Graces

Thanks to the sheer number of localized JRPG's of played I'm almost immune to bad english voice acting. The Dynasty Warriors games also I'm sure contributed to that. If it's good I enjoy it but if it's bad my brain just automatically tunes it out.

kakashi919
January 13, 2013, 06:14 PM
I never played Symphonia 2 but i've never played a Tales game I didn't like.

The ones I've played are..

Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny 2
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Graces

Thanks to the sheer number of localized JRPG's of played I'm almost immune to bad english voice acting. The Dynasty Warriors games also I'm sure contributed to that. If it's good I enjoy it but if it's bad my brain just automatically tunes it out.

Destiny 2 is my favourite after Phantasia.Syhmphonia 2 had some great stuff, like taming monsters to fight with you and all that. And of course the battle system was awesome as usual... but damn, the characters weren't likeable at all.

Shinsatsu
January 14, 2013, 08:39 AM
Me and this guy think exactly the same way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5IegPGw8E

Jammin
January 17, 2013, 07:08 PM
It's supremely stoked for Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch now.



http://youtu.be/Xsu5dRJjQF4

Is it as good as it looks?

http://youtu.be/g5BE1Vw5B3M

riki
January 17, 2013, 07:38 PM
Did anyone else get the Wizard's Edition (http://store.namcobandaigames.com/store/namcous/en_US/pd/ThemeID.24355600/productID.253168700?resid=UPinNQoBAlkAAHQRPXEAAAAe&rests=1358473006537)? ^^

Jammin
January 17, 2013, 09:34 PM
Did anyone else get the Wizard's Edition (http://store.namcobandaigames.com/store/namcous/en_US/pd/ThemeID.24355600/productID.253168700?resid=UPinNQoBAlkAAHQRPXEAAAAe&rests=1358473006537)? ^^I didn't but it looks cool. That game looks just unbelievable. Sounds like the story, the visual, the music, and the game play all come together into something really special.

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Also downloaded the demo for Fire Emblem Awakening on my new 3DS XL (decided to go with this instead of the bundle due to the bigger screen on the XL version). Hot damn is the demo awesome.

Here are some things I noticed while playing.


It's got an open world map.
In a feature that has been absent from the Fire Emblem series since Fire Emblem:The Sacred Stones it features a world map similar to the one in Final Fantasy Tactics with a bunch of towns and encounter areas through which you can move back and forth at will. I'm thrilled about this because it creates the potential for side-quests and giving more of a feeling of freedom and immersion.
The characters seem really good.
The demo introduced 6 characters and the player avatar. The demo wasn't very long but the characters came across as genuinely charming and funny.
The animation looks great!
The animated scenes reminded me very much of Valkyria Chronicles. It shares the same style of cell shaded animation and it works great.
The 3D effects look really good when you turn them on.
It looked so good in 3D that I played the entire demo that way. I feel queezy, as expected, but it was totally worth it. Not only did the characters, effects, and animations look awesome but the backgrounds looked amazing too. I saw a forest and a town both looked stunningly good. In the part in the forest the characters fighting in 3D grass stood out as particularity gorgeous.
You get to create a customizable player avatar.
Much like the first Fire Emblem you get to create your own character but this time you get a whole host of customization options including choosing male/female and picking a voice. Judging from the content of the demo this character isn't just a tacked on avatar, like the one in White Knight Chronicles for was, it seems to be an actual part of the story as much as any other character.

riki
January 17, 2013, 09:45 PM
Oh, I need to d/l the demo.

I've heard good things about that game as well

Shinsatsu
January 18, 2013, 07:20 AM
I'm playing FFIV for the first time.

kimcheee
January 20, 2013, 01:13 AM
i'm excited about Ni no Kuni too!! Big fan of Studio Ghibli!!

I'm waiting for Lightning Returns...only because i've played the other FF13 games -.-;;

TheBoss
January 22, 2013, 06:22 PM
I wonder if Square Enix will ever stop making FFs and start working on other projects.
Not that I don't like FF but after this MMORPG-fail that is FF14, they should look for other options.
Like a CT remake :wtf

Crude
January 22, 2013, 07:56 PM
Chrono Break. I will wait forever for that game.

Shinsatsu
January 22, 2013, 08:15 PM
I wonder if Square Enix will ever stop making FFs and start working on other projects.
Not that I don't like FF but after this MMORPG-fail that is FF14, they should look for other options.
Like a CT remake :wtf
If you replace the brain behind a franchise, you will absolutely fail. FF used to be on top of everything else. Now it's just another crappy game.
IX was the last real FF game IMO :D XII was acceptable.

and LoL @ FF14. just LoL.

Jammin
January 22, 2013, 08:59 PM
I'd be careful what you wish for with Square-Enix. They are some of the best at breaking gamer hearts.

I wanted a new Front Mission game and what did I get? "Front Mission Evolved"
I wanted a new Final Fantasy VII related game and what did I get? "Dirge of the Cerberus"
I wanted a new Final Fantasy RPG and they gave me FFXII, FFXIII, and the MMO nobody cares about.

They have mastered the art of turning dreams into nightmares

kakashi919
January 23, 2013, 06:51 AM
What we need is the good old Squaresoft and Enix days :XD

Right now I'm playing over The Last Remnant, not an overly awesome game, but it's quite enjoyable.Frustrating at times, but enjoyable... I'm too scared to go back to Dark Souls....can't remember where I'm stuck :XD

Shinsatsu
January 23, 2013, 07:51 AM
What we need is the good old Squaresoft and Enix days :XD

Right now I'm playing over The Last Remnant, not an overly awesome game, but it's quite enjoyable.Frustrating at times, but enjoyable... I'm too scared to go back to Dark Souls....can't remember where I'm stuck :XD
I liked the last remnant alot. I had too much fun building the characters and killing the rare mobs (they are fking hard o_O).

TheBoss
January 23, 2013, 08:25 AM
Chrono Break. I will wait forever for that game.
And you might have to xD

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Yeah I thought that square enix would probably make a mess with a remake, but if I can see Zeal in today's graphics I can die in peace xD

Ju-da-su
January 23, 2013, 09:32 AM
Destiny 2 is my favourite after Phantasia.Syhmphonia 2 had some great stuff, like taming monsters to fight with you and all that. And of course the battle system was awesome as usual... but damn, the characters weren't likeable at all.


I never played Symphonia 2 but i've never played a Tales game I didn't like.

The ones I've played are..

Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny 2
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Graces

Thanks to the sheer number of localized JRPG's of played I'm almost immune to bad english voice acting. The Dynasty Warriors games also I'm sure contributed to that. If it's good I enjoy it but if it's bad my brain just automatically tunes it out.

Mind if I ask, which Destiny 2 are you talking about? As a hardcore Tales fan, I actually am very picky about the difference between II and 2 though, since those are actually two different games. In fact, I never use the name Tales of Destiny II. I simply just call it Eternia...>.>"

Regardless, both of them are good, whichever ones you mean.

I've played...I can say every game at least one version in the whole series, except Rebirth. I didn't clear all of them though. I can't come to like Phantasia, like, seriously, so I actually quit that one in only 2-3 hours. Other than that, I've played them all, but some of them, I only played till almost the end then stop (always right before entering the last dungeon) because I have no time, lost my memory card or for whatever other reasons. >.<"

kakashi919
January 23, 2013, 09:59 AM
Mind if I ask, which Destiny 2 are you talking about? As a hardcore Tales fan, I actually am very picky about the difference between II and 2 though, since those are actually two different games. In fact, I never use the name Tales of Destiny II. I simply just call it Eternia...>.>"

Regardless, both of them are good, whichever ones you mean.

I've played...I can say every game at least one version in the whole series, except Rebirth. I didn't clear all of them though. I can't come to like Phantasia, like, seriously, so I actually quit that one in only 2-3 hours. Other than that, I've played them all, but some of them, I only played till almost the end then stop (always right before entering the last dungeon) because I have no time, lost my memory card or for whatever other reasons. >.<"

Eternia >_< Don't think I've played Destiny 2 :s

Haha I do that a lot with most games... reach the last dungeon and stop playing. It took me at least 6 years to finish Final Fantasy 5 because of that habit :XD

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I liked the last remnant alot. I had too much fun building the characters and killing the rare mobs (they are fking hard o_O).

Yeah.... the one I hate the most was that demon in the village after God's Vale. Always got him down to low hp but he still kills me with that stupid art :cussing

Ju-da-su
January 23, 2013, 10:31 AM
Eternia >_< Don't think I've played Destiny 2 :s

Haha I do that a lot with most games... reach the last dungeon and stop playing. It took me at least 6 years to finish Final Fantasy 5 because of that habit :XD

Well, Destiny 2 probably will never reach the West coast because of the stupid translation error that makes people believe Eternia = Destiny 2 though, but tbh, that game was the game that prompted me to buy PS2 in the first place, and I just learned of it after I started playing it. Talking about just how amazing the series is. XP (Destiny 2 made me bought PS2 since I mistaken it for another game. I just saw people playing this game, and I thought it was PS2 version of Ragnarok. Absolutely pathetic, I know. *shrug* I only came to learn about the game much later since I got hooked by Abyss, got into the series, simply find Judas as being so cool, and imported the game just to find that it's actually the game I saw on that first day that made me want to buy PS2. Got to be "Destiny"...XD ) It's actually enjoyable, being the direct sequel after Destiny, revolving around Stahn's and Rutee's son, Kyle, who wants to become a hero like his dad. In fact, I like it much more than its prequel even, even though a lot of people would disagree with me. I even play the PSP version of it as well...partly because the grades in the original PS2 one is ridiculous in a way. XD

Though I stopped right in front of the last dungeon on both Destiny 2 and Eternia (played PSP version for this one too). After that, I lost my PSP memory card... .__."

Though, now I'll see when will I actually finish Vesperia and Xillia 2. For Vesperia, I've been wandering around endlessly without going into that floating castle ever since last new year. One year has passed, and still didn't go into just finish the game. For Xillia 2, yeah, I took a break from Xillia 2 right now...before the first and the bad ending (Xillia 2 have 3 main endings like Persona 4, and one fanservice ending...:3 ) Now I wonder will I ever get to hear Ludger speaks at all. XD

Jammin
January 23, 2013, 12:22 PM
And you might have to xDSad, but true.:teehee


Mind if I ask, which Destiny 2 are you talking about? As a hardcore Tales fan, I actually am very picky about the difference between II and 2 though, since those are actually two different games. In fact, I never use the name Tales of Destiny II. I simply just call it Eternia...>.>"

Regardless, both of them are good, whichever ones you mean.

I've played...I can say every game at least one version in the whole series, except Rebirth. I didn't clear all of them though. I can't come to like Phantasia, like, seriously, so I actually quit that one in only 2-3 hours. Other than that, I've played them all, but some of them, I only played till almost the end then stop (always right before entering the last dungeon) because I have no time, lost my memory card or for whatever other reasons. >.<"Eternia. It was a good one. Symphonia was my favorite though. My least favorite was Graces (technically Graces F, as I played the ps3 version) which I still enjoyed reasonably well but didn't beat and probably never will. The combat just wasn't... fun

kakashi919
January 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
Well, Destiny 2 probably will never reach the West coast because of the stupid translation error that makes people believe Eternia = Destiny 2 though, but tbh, that game was the game that prompted me to buy PS2 in the first place, and I just learned of it after I started playing it. Talking about just how amazing the series is. XP (Destiny 2 made me bought PS2 since I mistaken it for another game. I just saw people playing this game, and I thought it was PS2 version of Ragnarok. Absolutely pathetic, I know. *shrug* I only came to learn about the game much later since I got hooked by Abyss, got into the series, simply find Judas as being so cool, and imported the game just to find that it's actually the game I saw on that first day that made me want to buy PS2. Got to be "Destiny"...XD ) It's actually enjoyable, being the direct sequel after Destiny, revolving around Stahn's and Rutee's son, Kyle, who wants to become a hero like his dad. In fact, I like it much more than its prequel even, even though a lot of people would disagree with me. I even play the PSP version of it as well...partly because the grades in the original PS2 one is ridiculous in a way. XD

Though I stopped right in front of the last dungeon on both Destiny 2 and Eternia (played PSP version for this one too). After that, I lost my PSP memory card... .__."

Though, now I'll see when will I actually finish Vesperia and Xillia 2. For Vesperia, I've been wandering around endlessly without going into that floating castle ever since last new year. One year has passed, and still didn't go into just finish the game. For Xillia 2, yeah, I took a break from Xillia 2 right now...before the first and the bad ending (Xillia 2 have 3 main endings like Persona 4, and one fanservice ending...:3 ) Now I wonder will I ever get to hear Ludger speaks at all. XD

I don't think I've ever played Destiny 1 either :s. Eternia and Phantasia were the 2 I enjoyed most. I've played Phantasia on gba,snes,psx and psp... even the fully voiced japanese version for psp :P It's such an awesome game :love I started Abyss , but never reached far, I just might start it back.

Crude
January 23, 2013, 07:15 PM
I just saw some videos of Ni No Kuni. Drippy has a Welsh accent. I'm sold!

Ju-da-su
January 24, 2013, 12:16 PM
\Eternia. It was a good one. Symphonia was my favorite though. My least favorite was Graces (technically Graces F, as I played the ps3 version) which I still enjoyed reasonably well but didn't beat and probably never will. The combat just wasn't... fun

Personally, I really don't care all that much about battle system unless it seriously sucks. I have to agree a little bit about Graces though. Though I only play the Wii version (seriously can't get myself to start playing Graces f, even though I already have the game) I don't really recall it having excellent plot either, when compared to other Tales game. Better than Innocence though, at least... ._."


I don't think I've ever played Destiny 1 either :s. Eternia and Phantasia were the 2 I enjoyed most. I've played Phantasia on gba,snes,psx and psp... even the fully voiced japanese version for psp :P It's such an awesome game :love I started Abyss , but never reached far, I just might start it back.

I don't really know why, but I seriously just can't come to like Phantasia. It's the only Tales game that I don't like any of the characters in it. I simply hate Cless and Mint for no particular reason (have been hating both of them ever since I first know them). I've tried to play the PSP version, hoping that it being fully voiced will help keep myself motivated enough to continue, but it just doesn't work somehow. ._."

I love Abyss though. I think it's definitely the best in the whole series. I seriously love its characters and plot. It's actually the only game that ever manage to make me cry at the ending, and the only game that I've completed more than three times (Once in English version, twice in Japanese PS2 version...and am playing another playthrough in 3DS version).

But again, I think that's also partly because I don't like Symphonia either. For some reason, I don't seem to like it all that much, even though I do manage to get through one playthrough of it. Don't think I'll ever get to the second one though. ._."

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But are you two planning on getting Xillia though? I mean, it's getting localized soon, right? I've played both Jude and Milla sides and enjoy both though (but I like Jude's one better >_<") The story is a bit short, but at least it's good. IMO, it's at least better than Graces, but I don't know where to rank it really, since I actually at least enjoy all Tales games (except Phantasia). ._."

Though I'm waiting for Hearts R right now. Still am thinking whether I should go with the special edition one or not. >_<"

riki
January 24, 2013, 02:32 PM
Is anyone interested in the Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem crossover (http://gematsu.com/2013/01/shin-megami-tensei-x-fire-emblem-is-an-rpg)? It looks interesting and I'm curious about the story.

Jammin
January 24, 2013, 02:48 PM
Is anyone interested in the Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem crossover (http://gematsu.com/2013/01/shin-megami-tensei-x-fire-emblem-is-an-rpg)? It looks interesting and I'm curious about the story. I'm mainly confused. I suppose we've seen stranger crossovers before but Fire Emblem and SMT is pretty bizarre. I have to think most likely it will come out as a really bizarre RPG like Trinity Universe or Cross Edge. Where the characters end up at some kind of universal nexus or other.

Hopefully, it's some form of SRPG. Because that is too many characters to cram into any other kind of game.

riki
January 24, 2013, 02:52 PM
^Agreed. It looks like the game won't include any Persona, Devil Survivor, etc. characters just yet.

Maybe the story will involve demons invading the Fire Emblem world?

Jammin
January 24, 2013, 03:13 PM
^Agreed. It looks like the game won't include any Persona, Devil Survivor, etc. characters just yet.

Maybe the story will involve demons invading the Fire Emblem world?It would probably be best to avoid that one. Fire Emblem has it's own canon I guess you'd call it and a lot of those Fire Emblem characters are from different times. Can't say I'd be too thrilled about messing with all of that unless they could actually make it into a believable storyline, which seems really hard.

Having the all get marooned on a new world seems to me like it would be a better bet. Maybe even make them doppelgangers or something, as opposed to the real ones, so they are able to actually work with a character completely independently of their storyline. That would open up the possibility of killing off characters, making love interests out of them, etc...

Crossovers are so tricky. To be honest, I can't recall a single one that went particularly well. I wish the game nothing but the best and if nothing else it should be a showcase of amazing character designs but....I don't know if I like it's odds of being good.:sweatdrop

kakashi919
January 24, 2013, 03:46 PM
Personally, I really don't care all that much about battle system unless it seriously sucks. I have to agree a little bit about Graces though. Though I only play the Wii version (seriously can't get myself to start playing Graces f, even though I already have the game) I don't really recall it having excellent plot either, when compared to other Tales game. Better than Innocence though, at least... ._."



I don't really know why, but I seriously just can't come to like Phantasia. It's the only Tales game that I don't like any of the characters in it. I simply hate Cless and Mint for no particular reason (have been hating both of them ever since I first know them). I've tried to play the PSP version, hoping that it being fully voiced will help keep myself motivated enough to continue, but it just doesn't work somehow. ._."

I love Abyss though. I think it's definitely the best in the whole series. I seriously love its characters and plot. It's actually the only game that ever manage to make me cry at the ending, and the only game that I've completed more than three times (Once in English version, twice in Japanese PS2 version...and am playing another playthrough in 3DS version).

But again, I think that's also partly because I don't like Symphonia either. For some reason, I don't seem to like it all that much, even though I do manage to get through one playthrough of it. Don't think I'll ever get to the second one though. ._."

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But are you two planning on getting Xillia though? I mean, it's getting localized soon, right? I've played both Jude and Milla sides and enjoy both though (but I like Jude's one better >_<") The story is a bit short, but at least it's good. IMO, it's at least better than Graces, but I don't know where to rank it really, since I actually at least enjoy all Tales games (except Phantasia). ._."

Though I'm waiting for Hearts R right now. Still am thinking whether I should go with the special edition one or not. >_<"

Is that for Ps3? Or Xbox? Well I don't have any console, so most likely not haha. I am thinking of getting a 3Ds though...Pokemon X and Y :XD If I do end up getting one, I'll get Abyss for it also.

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I'm mainly confused. I suppose we've seen stranger crossovers before but Fire Emblem and SMT is pretty bizarre. I have to think most likely it will come out as a really bizarre RPG like Trinity Universe or Cross Edge. Where the characters end up at some kind of universal nexus or other.

Hopefully, it's some form of SRPG. Because that is too many characters to cram into any other kind of game.

Well, both are SRPGs no? So if it isn't, I'd be super surprised and not very interested anymore. Fire Emblem series is probably the only SRPG games I look out for these days.

Crude
January 24, 2013, 06:14 PM
Speaking of Shin Megami Tensei, am I the only one that's slightly disappointed with the approach that Atlus is going with the new entry? Don't get me wrong, from what I've seen of the game it looks pretty epic, but I really do wish that they'd gone with something more akin to SMT3/Nocturne. I loved that game, particularly it's visual style and atmosphere, so seeing the way SMT4 is going to be like makes it look like a step backwards. Plus even though the character designs are in no way bad, I do wish that Kazuma Kaneko would be the artist handling at least the franchise's main series, I mean after all he is the original character designer (and his style is awesome!).

riki
January 24, 2013, 06:32 PM
BTW, is anyone planning to get Project X Zone (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/01/21/project-x-zone-the-namco-x-capcom-x-sega-rpg-is-headed-to-the-u-s/) (the Namco Bandai, Capcom, and Sega crossover game) now that it's coming overseas?

Oh, and this game from Monolith Soft (Xenoblade) looks sweet. Could it be a sequel?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6GxUMMGyZcM

kakashi919
January 24, 2013, 10:13 PM
Yeah I never actually sat down and played Xenoblade, but this looks pretty awesome. I wonder if Nintendo is gonna out sell Microsoft and Sony again? That would be awesome :derp

Jammin
January 26, 2013, 05:40 PM
I'm playing Ni No Kuni now. It's really good. It really draws up memories of the great PSOne era RPG's. I'm not sure whether it's really as great as them or not, I'm not far enough along to know, but it definitely invokes their memory.

And the localization is impressive too. I don't think I've ever seen so many puns in a video game.:amuse

riki
January 26, 2013, 08:40 PM
Where are you at in the game? I just defeated the Rat King.

Jammin
January 26, 2013, 08:48 PM
Where are you at in the game? I just defeated the Rat King.Good bit past there, I think. I just reached Drippy's hometown.

riki
January 26, 2013, 08:51 PM
Gotcha. I was planning to do some side quests first before heading to the next town.

Jammin
January 26, 2013, 09:26 PM
Gotcha. I was planning to do some side quests first before heading to the next town.I bought it through the PSN on wednesday so I've had it a little while. Probably about 15 hours in.

riki
January 26, 2013, 10:10 PM
Oh, I got mine yesterday.

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Hmm... looks like there is a glitch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni_no_Kuni#Controversies) in the game


The US version of the game ships with a save glitch that can corrupt a player's save, forcing them to restart the game from the beginning. It appears roughly 45 minutes into the game and can be avoided by simply saving after a certain mission in the game.

I guess I need to be careful then.

kimcheee
January 28, 2013, 07:45 PM
i really enjoy playing the Shin Megami Tensei series but as of late, i'm kind of disappointed -.-;;
the recent one i've played was innocent sin and i stopped playing after playing for 2 hours or so

Persona was a really good game...i even bought the original PS1 game on the PSN store to see the difference

but yeah...definitely disappointed in Atlus

TheBoss
January 29, 2013, 03:26 PM
Anyone played the .Hack games? I'm watching the series and it seems that the game must be really weird, but good ^^

Crude
January 30, 2013, 09:25 AM
I was rewatching the trailer for Monolith Soft's new game when I finally remembered who Kunihiko Tanaka (the character designer) was. He's the character designer for Xenogears and Xenosaga Ep.1! The fact that he's designing the characters plus the suspiciously similar X at the end have me thinking that this isn't going to Xenoblade Chronicles 2, but perhaps a new Gears or Saga or at least a game taking place in the same universe (despite the fact that they don't technically share the same universe).

Ok, upon closer inspection the X looks a little like the one on the Xenoblade Chronicles logo, however the red makes me think it has more to with Xenogears:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5444/xenologos.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/xenologos.png/)

Jammin
January 30, 2013, 09:49 AM
New Fire Emblem Awakening trailer that goes over the class system.


http://youtu.be/FavS3PRx9_w

Looks like they've made some Fanal Fantasy Tactics style additions to the job system. Man, just when I thought I couldn't be any more excited for this game.



Anyone played the .Hack games? I'm watching the series and it seems that the game must be really weird, but good ^^I played all three PS2 Games. I'm not sure how they'd be now but at the time I loved them. The story worked very well in videogame form since it created a nice sense of immersion for narrative. Then there was the way the story covered all of them games which was fun. It felt like one long tale.

Sadly I don't remember the gameplay being particularly good.:p

kakashi919
January 31, 2013, 09:32 AM
Now I really do have to get a 3ds and a WiiU and a PS3

Jammin
January 31, 2013, 08:37 PM
Now I really do have to get a 3ds and a WiiU and a PS3I'm sorry to do this to your wallet but... the first few Fire Emblem Awakening reviews are in.

Kotaku loved it (http://kotaku.com/5980657/fire-emblem-awakening-the-kotaku-review)
IGN loved it even more. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/30/fire-emblem-awakening-review)

A Quote from IGN's review:

"Fire Emblem Awakening is the most fluid and stunning strategy RPG experience available on a portable, and features the best storytelling and production value of any 3DS game to date."

Or the 20 Reviews that are up on metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/fire-emblem-awakening/critic-reviews) the lowest score is an 85!

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From what the reviews said Fire Emblem Awakening is the kind of RPG I love most of all and it sounds very much like it's the RPG I've always hoped that series could be.

It gives you a bunch of great characters and lets your actions as a gamer effect them. That's why I've always loved that death is permanent in Fire Emblem. In addition, the actions you take with those characters result in different relationships with the rest of the cast. You influence as a gamer really effects the characters in the story. As long as the characters are good, and it sound like they very much are, that is amazing achievement.

It's like what the Persona series does with it's protagonist, but instead it's the whole cast!

kakashi919
January 31, 2013, 09:03 PM
I'm sorry to do this to your wallet but... the first few Fire Emblem Awakening reviews are in.

Kotaku loved it (http://kotaku.com/5980657/fire-emblem-awakening-the-kotaku-review)
IGN loved it even more. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/30/fire-emblem-awakening-review)

A Quote from IGN's review:

"Fire Emblem Awakening is the most fluid and stunning strategy RPG experience available on a portable, and features the best storytelling and production value of any 3DS game to date."

Or the 20 Reviews that are up on metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/fire-emblem-awakening/critic-reviews) the lowest score is an 85!

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From what the reviews said Fire Emblem Awakening is the kind of RPG I love most of all and it sounds very much like it's the RPG I've always hoped that series could be.

It gives you a bunch of great characters and lets your actions as a gamer effect them. That's why I've always loved that death is permanent in Fire Emblem. In addition, the actions you take with those characters result in different relationships with the rest of the cast. You influence as a gamer really effects the characters in the story. As long as the characters are good, and it sound like they very much are, that is amazing achievement.

It's like what the Persona series does with it's protagonist, but instead it's the whole cast!

God damnit!!!!! Screw it...3DS it is... >_<

Crude
February 01, 2013, 08:33 AM
I lost my 3DS (along with my arts briefcase) in the subway the other day :(. There's a chance that it might be in the lost and found but I'm not that hopeful. Gah, it's like torture now that so many great titles are coming out, particularly Fire Emblem!

riki
February 01, 2013, 06:24 PM
On Feb. 12th, Ni no Kuni will have a free DLC for the familiar, Draggle (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/01/ni-no-kuni-wrath-of-the-white-witch-gets-a-free-dlc-familiar-on-feb-12th/). Oh, and this trailer makes want to :scry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WrCJQJcZ_bM

g0dzax
February 03, 2013, 03:26 AM
http://en.signup.elderscrollsonline.com/


So I've got mixed feelings regarding the elder scrolls online...

Jammin
February 03, 2013, 10:04 AM
I lost my 3DS (along with my arts briefcase) in the subway the other day :(. There's a chance that it might be in the lost and found but I'm not that hopeful. Gah, it's like torture now that so many great titles are coming out, particularly Fire Emblem!Man, that hurts. Hopefully it finds it's way back to you one way or another.


http://en.signup.elderscrollsonline.com/


So I've got mixed feelings regarding the elder scrolls online...I always have mixed feelings about MMOs. I played a ton of SWTOR but at the end of my gaming experience with it I was left feeling like it was a waste they just didn't make KOTOR 3 instead. Of course in Elder Scrolls Online at least it's a different company making it. So it shouldn't negatively effect Fallout or the main Elder Scrolls series.

Which is good as I still hunger for Skyrim DLC. I mean, I'll finally get to play Dragonborne this week (if I manage to set aside Fire Emblem at all) but I expected Bethesda to put out a lot more DLC than it has. It seems like kind of a waste.

Shinsatsu
February 03, 2013, 11:50 AM
Anyone played the .Hack games? I'm watching the series and it seems that the game must be really weird, but good ^^
I played the PS2 ones, they were awesome. But opinions may differ. (I consider the series one of the top RPG games I played).

TheBoss
February 04, 2013, 10:48 AM
I played the PS2 ones, they were awesome. But opinions may differ. (I consider the series one of the top RPG games I played).
Awesome! I'll try it later xD

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http://en.signup.elderscrollsonline.com/


So I've got mixed feelings regarding the elder scrolls online...
Errr I'm already playing a mmorpg and Skyrim was as fun as it was for me already. I know that they will face huge problems and I hope this doesnt end like FF14

benelori
February 05, 2013, 08:40 AM
The Witcher 3 has new details!!:wtf
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-announced-for-2014-6403406

Shinsatsu
February 05, 2013, 11:08 AM
I need a new Super-Computer.

riki
February 05, 2013, 03:22 PM
If you wish to discuss about the Final Fantasy series, please do so over at The Final Fantasy Thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/6273-The-Final-Fantasy-Thread%21). I have already moved the posts discussing series over there. Thank you! :)

Crude
February 05, 2013, 05:46 PM
Man, that hurts. Hopefully it finds it's way back to you one way or another.

Thanks. Well if I don't find it I suppose I'll just wait for the price to drop. Hopefully by then all the games I'm interested in will also be cheaper. I love bargains, in fact that's how I managed to get many of my games in recent times :XD

zelllogan
February 08, 2013, 01:33 PM
I'm not sure whether or not I should buy Ninokuni on ps3. Isn't it too childish ?

cearon
February 08, 2013, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure whether or not I should buy Ninokuni on ps3. Isn't it too childish ?

The story is great and yes the animation seems like that but if ni no kuni were to be written by hans christian andersen we would be reading it like any other fairy tail.
It is a game every2 should play thou DS version with the book is way better, downsize is you have to carry the book everywhere upside being you can swat annoying ppl with it. It is very effective :)

In short the game should be played by every1 who enjoys good RPG with great story.

Jammin
February 08, 2013, 03:28 PM
I'm not sure whether or not I should buy Ninokuni on ps3. Isn't it too childish ?I think it depends on your taste to some degree. It's very much kid themed but there is really great emotion there too.

It's like a really good kids movie that way.

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On another note, I've been playing a ton of Fire Emblem Awakening and in my opinion it's better than Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre. It's not an exaggeration to say it's my new favorite game in the genre... of all time. That's how much I like it.

The characters are really what really puts it over the top. It's the best cast in an RPG I think I've ever seen I can't even pick a favorite, because they are all so damn good.

Some of my favorites so far are..


A Thief who is completely obsessed with candy.
A dumb yet handsome Warrior who talks about himself in the third person.
A womanizing Archer whose only purpose in joining your party is to woo one of your more masculine female cavalry soldiers.
A massive Knight whose personality and presence are so mild people constantly forget he exists and accuse him of vanishing when he was there the whole time.
A female mage who is analytical and logical to the point of near insanity.
A gruff female werebunny (Yeah, you read that right....)

riki
February 08, 2013, 09:48 PM
Nintendo has posted Fire Emblem: Awakening DLC info (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/07/fire-emblem-awakening-first-dlc-prices-revealed/) if you're interested.

zelllogan
February 18, 2013, 03:40 PM
I finally bought ni no kuni, I played 5 hours and for now, I think it's fantastic. The first quality JRPG I played for a long time. The last one that I really enjoyed was eternal sonata ...

The art is incredible, story seems good, ... very promising.

kakashi919
February 19, 2013, 10:10 AM
I think it depends on your taste to some degree. It's very much kid themed but there is really great emotion there too.

It's like a really good kids movie that way.

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On another note, I've been playing a ton of Fire Emblem Awakening and in my opinion it's better than Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre. It's not an exaggeration to say it's my new favorite game in the genre... of all time. That's how much I like it.

The characters are really what really puts it over the top. It's the best cast in an RPG I think I've ever seen I can't even pick a favorite, because they are all so damn good.

Some of my favorites so far are..


A Thief who is completely obsessed with candy.
A dumb yet handsome Warrior who talks about himself in the third person.
A womanizing Archer whose only purpose in joining your party is to woo one of your more masculine female cavalry soldiers.
A massive Knight whose personality and presence are so mild people constantly forget he exists and accuse him of vanishing when he was there the whole time.
A female mage who is analytical and logical to the point of near insanity.
A gruff female werebunny (Yeah, you read that right....)


Well honestly, Fire emblem and Shining Force franchise was always better then FFT imo. Can't say for Tactics Ogre cuz I never tried it... but the difficulty of Fire Emblem and Shining Force is what makes it better for me. I have yet to finish any of the original Shining games for Sega >_<

riki
February 22, 2013, 08:18 AM
Is anyone interested in this game (http://nisamerica.com/pressreleases/Time_and_Eternity_20130221_finpb.pdf)?

Jammin
February 22, 2013, 10:04 AM
Is anyone interested in this game (http://nisamerica.com/pressreleases/Time_and_Eternity_20130221_finpb.pdf)?Look's...unique. I'd say I'm interested. I like how different it looks.


http://youtu.be/rBltjcXIDJM


I am in more excited for these I think..



http://youtu.be/QUE7oGMM5LQ


http://youtu.be/kFcn50cZpxE

riki
March 02, 2013, 11:15 AM
The Disgaea game is the true sequel to the first one, right? I'm curious about Laharl's sister and what she'll do.

The second game looks pretty good too. IIRC, the main character becomes the God of Fate/Fortune and the angels are supposed to help him. IIRC, the enemies are the demons (the ones who dressed so fancy).

Oh, here are some trailers for Shin Megami Tensei IV:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jj_Z97yWU_M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pp0aSLRyasc

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New trailer for Disgaea Dimension 2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DLBL8NPIj0w

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I knew it! :smugbunny

Devil Survivor 2: Break Code (http://gematsu.com/2013/03/devil-survivor-2-break-code-announced-for-3ds) has been announced for the 3DS

Jammin
March 02, 2013, 02:05 PM
The Disgaea game is the true sequel to the first one, right? I'm curious about Laharl's sister and what she'll do. Whatever the story line will be it will be awesome. I'm pretty stoked that they are making a direct sequel to the first Disgaea. This is like the opposite of the Final Fantasy sequals for me in that this is something I want to play more than I would a Disgaea 5. Laharl, Etna, and Flonne with the tons of features they've added since the first game, sounds great to me.:^_^


I knew it! :smugbunny

Devil Survivor 2: Break Code (http://gematsu.com/2013/03/devil-survivor-2-break-code-announced-for-3ds) has been announced for the 3DSThat looks good. I never played any of the Devil Survivor games. Looks like that will be changing.:amuse

Zeltrax
March 02, 2013, 11:27 PM
You should go get Devil Survivor: Overclocked. I heard that it was a much more superb version than the ds one.
The DS games are really great and was the first SMT games I played.
Tons of stuff to do, endings to get(although some people stop playing after seeing their first), and lots of fusion.
It's pretty different from SMT and you won't feel like its a spin off of SMT but more of a game with its own powerful standing.

Also, I picked up Ni No Kuni. Game is really addicting :p I just feel like they could introduce various key battle mechanics earlier. Like monster taming and all out defense which would have helped a lot.
I have no idea where to find the metamorphosis drops besides battling :gwah and they are pretty hard to get.
Gotten quite a lot of beatings the moment I was out on the ship and onto the world map, those mobs are insane.

riki
March 03, 2013, 08:18 AM
What levels are your characters, Zel?

Don't forget that there are some hidden treasures too.

Zeltrax
March 03, 2013, 11:09 PM
All of them are level 24. Just went to drippy‘s and took down the giant jelly :D
What hidden treasures are you referring to :oh ?

riki
April 10, 2013, 03:15 PM
There are hidden treasures hidden all over the world map. Unfortunately, they're not marked so you have to click the X button until you find them.

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A Tales of Xillia trailer with English voices is up now:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JauPflRo8pE

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The Devil Survivor remake will have a new story scenario (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/26/devil-survivor-2-break-record-has-a-new-scenario-after-the-ending/) after the ending. There is another demon invasion and the Nicaea death website is popular again. A new female character is also introduced.

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Shin Megami Tensei IV (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/02/shin-megami-tensei-iv-coming-to-north-america-this-summer/) will be out in N. America this summer. :)

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Bravely Defaut: Flying Fairy (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/03/bravely-default-flying-fairy-will-be-localized-for-the-west/) is supposedly coming overseas

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There will be a Dark Souls II update (http://gematsu.com/2013/04/dark-souls-ii-update-teased-for-april-11) on April 11th on Gametrailer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8q_-_n3mf-E

Black Rock Shooter: The Game is coming out on PSN on April 23rd. The second trailer can be viewed here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GhMtEk3FIcA).

Project X Zone (a crossover game with Capcom, Namco, and Sega characters) will be out on June 25th (http://gematsu.com/2013/04/project-x-zone-us-release-date-set).

Tales of Xillia will be out in N.America on Aug. 6th (http://gematsu.com/2013/04/tales-of-xillia-us-release-date-set).

Oh, here are some screenshots (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/05/muramasa-rebirths-new-translation-compared-to-ignitions-wii-version/) comparing Muramasa: Rebirth's new localization. The translation looks definitely better imo.

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Dark Souls II trailer and gameplay videos are now up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmqxZrqk3bc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1s9v2Ab8w

otomo20
April 14, 2013, 06:53 PM
Is my review for Dragon Age good?

http://game8review.blogspot.com/2013/04/dragon-age-origins-review.html

benelori
April 16, 2013, 10:33 AM
Is my review for Dragon Age good?

http://game8review.blogspot.com/2013/04/dragon-age-origins-review.html

It could use more polish that's for sure...proof read it again, because there are some grammar/punctuation/phrasing problems. Also it's Ferelden, not Feralden, and it was released for PS3 not PS2.

Other than those minor stuff, you could go a bit deeper into analyzing the dialogue, the dialogue wheel's options, and how they reflect back on you. And since it's an old game, with huge lore and sequel, you could include the DLCs in your review as well.

riki
April 17, 2013, 10:32 AM
First-print copies of Shin Megami Tensei IV will be Limited Edition Box Sets (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/17/shin-megami-tensei-iv-first-print-copies-come-with-design-book-soundtrack/). It will have a Strategy & Design book, a Music Collection CD, and a Collectible Slipcase Packaging.

Nintendo (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/17/bravely-default-flying-fairy-will-be-published-by-nintendo-in-north-america/)also announced that they will publish Bravely Default in N. America and Europe. The game will be out in 2014.

TheBoss
April 23, 2013, 09:39 AM
I think we should have a Best Video game awards, just to see legions of flames and hate, specially about The Best RPG of all times :lmao

Jammin
April 23, 2013, 10:12 AM
I think we should have a Best Video game awards, just to see legions of flames and hate, specially about The Best RPG of all times :lmaoI think it probably wouldn't come to that...maybe.:p

Whichever one people think is the best I think it would most likely come out of the few that people just in generally accept as top teir. Final Fantasy's 5-7, Suikoden 2, The Baldur's Gate Series, Dragon Age: Origins, maybe the Witcher 2(wouldn't top my list but I can see where the argument could be made), Fallout 3, KOTOR, and a few others.

In my experience the more, shall we say, "inflamed" conversations about RPG's typically spark up from conversations about more controversial ones, which some gamers think are great and other think suck ballz. Like Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, Final Fantasy 10-13, Fable 2-3, Diablo 3, stuff like that.

TheBoss
April 23, 2013, 01:39 PM
Hehe fanboys can be pretty annoying when the best game is at stake, I know it myself :lmao
So many youtube discussions... :fail

zelllogan
April 23, 2013, 05:20 PM
I think it probably wouldn't come to that...maybe.:p

Whichever one people think is the best I think it would most likely come out of the few that people just in generally accept as top teir. Final Fantasy's 5-7, Suikoden 2, The Baldur's Gate Series, Dragon Age: Origins, maybe the Witcher 2(wouldn't top my list but I can see where the argument could be made), Fallout 3, KOTOR, and a few others.

In my experience the more, shall we say, "inflamed" conversations about RPG's typically spark up from conversations about more controversial ones, which some gamers think are great and other think suck ballz. Like Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, Final Fantasy 10-13, Fable 2-3, Diablo 3, stuff like that.
There are mainly two types of RPG:
For JRPG, taken into account the available technology at the time, it's between FF6 & Chrono Trigger for me.
For Occidental RPG, I'll go with Skyrim and Dragon Age Origins.

I don't consider mass effect games to be rpg but Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games I played.

NB: My personal favourite is still FF8 though.

Xerous
April 25, 2013, 12:55 AM
What about the Witcher series I consider it one of the best but that's my opinion

Jammin
April 25, 2013, 10:19 AM
There are mainly two types of RPG:
For JRPG, taken into account the available technology at the time, it's between FF6 & Chrono Trigger for me.
For Occidental RPG, I'll go with Skyrim and Dragon Age Origins.

I don't consider mass effect games to be rpg but Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games I played.

NB: My personal favourite is still FF8 though. I think if you start drawing lines about "types are rpgs" you'll end up with a million categories. So I just toss everything into one pile and pick out what I think is the shiniest.


What about the Witcher series I consider it one of the best but that's my opinionThe argument could certainly be made for the Witcher 2 belonging on the list, Witcher 1.... I think probably not.

Xerous
April 25, 2013, 06:50 PM
I agree but the story from the first makes up for it right? and if not well The Witcher 3 looks good and so does Cyber Punk 2077 so i'm gonna play whatever they release.

Jammin
April 25, 2013, 07:12 PM
I agree but the story from the first makes up for it right? and if not well The Witcher 3 looks good and so does Cyber Punk 2077 so i'm gonna play whatever they release. It's just my opinion but I think the story is pretty good in both Witcher games the issue is there is the gameplay, and I don't think that's something that ever really be ignored when your talking about the best rpgs. I think the combat in both games was a bit, rough; and in the first downright awful until the patched it up.

I'm hoping The Witcher 3 takes the next step and finds a combat system that actually makes fighting more....fun.

And maybe they will, they have made some other creative decisions that makes me very optimistic about the series. Namely, the choice to go to a more open world. I think that's going to be a good move. One of the only weaknesses in the Witcher series story side of things for me has been the episodic way it changes chapters. Forcing to the player to go from area to area instead of letting the player do the traveling themselves always felt restrictive to me. I think that will allow it to reach a whole new level of immersive gameplay and allow them to make better use of the crafting aspects of the game.

benelori
April 26, 2013, 05:03 AM
I'm hoping The Witcher 3 takes the next step and finds a combat system that actually makes fighting more....fun.


Can you elaborate on that?

Xerous
April 26, 2013, 05:44 AM
It's just my opinion but I think the story is pretty good in both Witcher games the issue is there is the gameplay, and I don't think that's something that ever really be ignored when your talking about the best rpgs. I think the combat in both games was a bit, rough; and in the first downright awful until the patched it up.

I'm hoping The Witcher 3 takes the next step and finds a combat system that actually makes fighting more....fun.

And maybe they will, they have made some other creative decisions that makes me very optimistic about the series. Namely, the choice to go to a more open world. I think that's going to be a good move. One of the only weaknesses in the Witcher series story side of things for me has been the episodic way it changes chapters. Forcing to the player to go from area to area instead of letting the player do the traveling themselves always felt restrictive to me. I think that will allow it to reach a whole new level of immersive gameplay and allow them to make better use of the crafting aspects of the game.

I thought Witcher 2 had nice gameplay but that's my opinion and I am excited that hunting has been truly integrated into the game I can't to try it.

kakashi919
April 26, 2013, 08:34 AM
It's strange...I don't find the Witcher series all that good...tried 1 and 2 but they never seemed like what people made it out to be. I have the same problem with almost all WRPGs... Dragon Age is the only one I really loved and played more than once. I have no idea why :oh

Jammin
April 26, 2013, 10:13 AM
Can you elaborate on that?Sure in the first Witcher game it was basically an adapted point and click type attack system from mmo's but adapted to be an action interface by making it relent on combat styles and timed clicks on enemies. The system was bad enough at least two friends of mine didn't finish the game because they couldn't stand the combat.

The second Witcher game stepped out from under that a little and made fights more dynamic by removing the timed clicks as well as the combat styles but seemed to have some new issues with control of the character in combat. The first issue I had were that swordfights have been simplified to light attack and heavy attack button mashing most of the time and the second being that in order to attack a different direction than one your facing you need to move the character to face that way; which combined with havak physics stagger can often it impossible to smoothly turn and engage a new oppenent. That same stagger effect was what made rolling a lot more effective defense that parrying or with your sword. They helped this issue a little when they greatly turned down the stagger in the Witcher 2 Enhanced conversion, but the basic issue is still there.

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Some basic improvements I'd like to see them make in The Witcher 3 would be to them reintroduce styles(without the timed button clicks this time), remove the havok stagger for all but enemies big attacks (and maybe arrows), allow attack direction to be dictated by camera facing(at least as a menu option), increase the swordfight difficulty, improve the fight AI (have enemies try to circle behind you), make magic more powerful and more varied, and completely redo the ranged attack system from the ground up.

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Whoa! Where did this game come from?:zomg


http://youtu.be/Vb5vMShT_eU

I looked in the steam store this morning and saw an RPG I'd never even heard of before. A cyberpunk no less. And it looks pretty cool too. Anybody know anything about it?

Because it might just be the thing that pulls me away from playing way to much of Defiance.(Not a great game, but I'm loving it anyhow)

benelori
April 26, 2013, 03:37 PM
Hmm...I see...but to be fair, the first Witcher is pretty old, so...and there are many instances, where you can't rely on just the point-and-click, as you must combine your gameplay with signs, and that makes it more interesting...I was always of the opinion, that if one of the gameplay elements is not fun, then I will make it so it will be fun for me...this of course if other stuff in the game make this worth...I never really did a perfect and optimized playthrough of any game, except ME2, which is very close to my heart...

Witcher 2...well I agree that combat could've been more diverse, especially after discovering the sign that shielded you:p....but the stagger...well the term implies lack of control, so you shouldn't be able to switch targets smoothly...but it was too powerful at first, with that I agree, since Geralt should be strong enough not to stagger that much, especially from light enemies...

The 3rd witcher will change stuff...for example they will remove the roll and will replace it with a pirouette...you could read this article...I think it's the latest that contains info on Witcher 3...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/04/24/talking-the-witcher-3-with-cd-projekt-red-single-player-only-drm-worst-thing-in-video-game-industry/

Xerous
April 26, 2013, 06:33 PM
Yeah I can't wait to see the list of powers/abilities he has now since it has more than doubled it should allow people to have their own play style.

Jammin
April 26, 2013, 07:34 PM
One thing I really like about Projekt RED as a developer is whenever you read an interview with them it's noticeable how aware they are of what they think worked and what they can improve. As long as they keep that up every RPG they make is almost certainly going to be better than the one before it.

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By the way I downloaded "Mars War Logs" through steam and I'm pretty impressed so far.

It's hard to really describe in concise terms but I suppose the best summary would be a Gothic/Risen game in the cyberpunk vein; though perhaps with a bit more polished. I guess it will be coming to PSN and Xbox live soon.

Xerous
April 27, 2013, 03:42 AM
I agree with you there I read an interview from them about Witcher 3 and when questioned about the release of cyberpunk 2077 after the trailer release they merely replied that when they felt they had done all they could for it then they would release it.

Jammin
April 27, 2013, 08:40 PM
FYI to anybody looking to play Mars War Logs. I retract my positive statements about it, it's not a good game.

It starts out pretty good but then in the second act take quite a few big steps backward. Some of the voice acting after that point is truly amazing and not in a good way. I don't know that I've ever heard voice actors wiff on both inflections and word pronunciation before.

It's kind of pity too because I liked what the game was trying to do. Something like Gothic crossed with Shenmue but it seemed like after your character gets out of the beginning area the experience gets shrunk down and all attempts at polish just vanish. You just find yourself repetitively going through a maze of hallways beating people up.

Xerous
May 05, 2013, 10:26 PM
It seems IGN also dislike the game they called it a Mass Effect wannabe oh well it's a shame I won't be playing it and here's an interview (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/01/cyberpunk-2077-putting-the-punk-back-into-cyberpunk) about Cyperpunk 2077 for whoever is interested.