Mahou Sensei Negima 295 Discussion

[vintagemistakes]

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[AstroNerdBoy]

http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2010/07/negima-chapter-295-spoiler-images.html

I've added four more images.

[CurtLe]

Jesus christ, 15/18 pages, this is a good week. And with the last pic, it says there is a break, but I can't tell how long. And who does Zazie have a pactio with?

[LoneWolfx03]

Jesus christ, 15/18 pages, this is a good week. And with the last pic, it says there is a break, but I can't tell how long. And who does Zazie have a pactio with?

I have a feeling it would be Fate or that "big tall shadow dude" that took Nodoka as a hostage (forgot the name... ;p ) or the LIFEMAKER??? :blink

[daman246]

this manga is great good thing that negis is only 10-11 years old if he was 16-18 this manga would have ended long ago he is a genius after all

[Krono]

Jesus christ, 15/18 pages, this is a good week. And with the last pic, it says there is a break, but I can't tell how long. And who does Zazie have a pactio with?

Actually, according to Ken's blog, 295 will only be 15 pages.

[CurtLe]

Actually, according to Ken's blog, 295 will only be 15 pages.

Well then, all of the pages then.

[oldgringo2001]

We were all wondering how the rest of the girls were going to get pactio-ed. I guess now we know...

[Zibi234]

well fate girls were wondering who that is "zazie" than catgirl thinks it was Fate plan.... yuet fate dennys to know Zazie... than that shadow dude dennys to know her either XD

so Zazie is not working for Fate but someone else.... maybe that little masked person that talked to fate on 1 panel (it could be chao... as she went back in time in Magic world)

so anyway zazie was allways suspicious as she was allways talking to some black ghost-gods... so maybe the telekinesis thing is that ghost holind mana that is invisible now...

we dont know zazies motive... did she want the magic world to get crushed and magic beign exposed to world...like chao wanted.... so she wants to stop Negi there as he is a danger to the plan...... still its evil from Zazie that she left behind anya and real asuna..... and she calls hersels a classmate... leaveing people for puropose of evil people to beign used like objects


still this is not real mahora... but some kind of illusion... like negi will never fight in front of people as his magic would be exposed.... yet 1st... the new school semester did not start yet... 2nd the tree was glowing brightly in last time we saw it.... 3rd all magic people (even eva) in mahora were put on ready so they would notice a big boom in the middle of school....

but it would be sad if zazie used a casiopeia to send everyone with herself back in time... where the events did not happen yet... and the gate is closed so they cant return back....

still I guess they will fight and after the fight zazie will send negi back... but that will happen after 2-3chapters xD in next chapter I guess nodoka will use her diary to repay the "scared kitten from last chapter moment" ^^

[Shadow Limiter]

Well based on what "Zefyris" said on ANB's blog, it seems that the hooded mage (the one who broke the gateport link) knows Zazie and mentions to Fate that he was the one who called her there because she is an old an old acquaintance of his.
So, that means Zazie might be related to KE even before the time Fate was created & Dynamis joined the group.

On a side note, have to start working on updating my thread again.

[veron05]

my mind has been blown again. but seriously WOW.

But i tottally called it. here (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5402788491632245606&postID=3630643073752891919)

Ok, i have been doing some thinking. My conclusion was. The way zazie made her entrance was the typical "dun dun duunn (dramatic re-verb)." Which signals a turn for the worse. Now I do not feel that Zazie and Negi are going to fight. But I feel that her presence is not a good sign. Most likely she is going to inform Negi of what he has to do. Like save asuna, but more importantly how to save her. So at least for the next chapter its going to explain why zazie is here.(duh)
I believe that fate is the type of person to not lie, and he told negi that he did not expect him to come to the magical world. But if zazie was an informant for fate he would of known that Negi was on his way to MW.
Wich leads me to my final conclusion. Zazie must have her own objective.


BUT what i WANT to happen is for zazie be like. "the gate is active i have been sent from the academy to retrieve you and your class." which includes Asuna. then Zazie joins them gets a pactio. kinda like how mana is a mercenary zazie is an agent from mahora.


P.S I feel that the MW is doomed. and the arch after the MW is going to be recreating it and restoring everyone.

[Jaina]

@ Zibi234 2 problems with your explanations:

1) I don't think a pactio can exist with Chao, she technically hasn't been born yet, and her return to the future would probably have killed any card.

2) Not sure the Cassiopeia would work, its true that the tree is lit up, but there may be no way to harness the energy since it is not activated normally right now.

@Veron05 I think you're right about Zazie having her own objective. If she was working with Chao before she would have helped stop Negi during the festival. But if she is really working for the enemy I think she probably would have taken a few of Negi's team out to begin with.

[oldgringo2001]

On the next to last page, Zazie says (if I got the kanji right):

…君が進む道はきっとあの「超鈴音」が止めようとした未来に繋がってるんだポヨ

Which seems to me to mean "The way you are going will lead to the future Chao Ling-Shen is trying to stop."

I think that means that she almost certainly is a Ministra to Chao. Chao being in the future shouldn't affect a pactio; it certainly doesn't affect the orbital weapons platform Chao gave to Chachamaru.

I expect a break in the action will come next. It's going to take at least three chapters to resolve the Chao angle, and the real Evangaline will have to punish Negi for being such an idiot as to use her scroll--even if she knew he was fated to (You have picked up that Erebrea is the same magic Chao used, haven't you? You know, Negi's descendent?)

[Bowser]

Magnificent. Love how Akamatsu pulls Zazie out like that out of absolutely nowhere. This is actually really good atm. Miss the original n00b Negi though XD

[Maedhros]

On the next to last page, Zazie says (if I got the kanji right):

…君が進む道はきっとあの「超鈴音」が止めようとした未来に繋がってるんだポヨ

Which seems to me to mean "The way you are going will lead to the future Chao Ling-Shen is trying to stop."

I think that means that she almost certainly is a Ministra to Chao. Chao being in the future shouldn't affect a pactio; it certainly doesn't affect the orbital weapons platform Chao gave to Chachamaru.

I expect a break in the action will come next. It's going to take at least three chapters to resolve the Chao angle, and the real Evangaline will have to punish Negi for being such an idiot as to use her scroll--even if she knew he was fated to (You have picked up that Erebrea is the same magic Chao used, haven't you? You know, Negi's descendent?)

The two situations work different: on Chachamaru's case, it's Negi's who's the magister, but we still don't know yet how Chao could affect Chachamaru's artifact to be that one.

If Chao was the minister, I doubt the card would work if Chao was on the future, since she's not even alive on this era yet...

[Zibi234]

The two situations work different: on Chachamaru's case, it's Negi's who's the magister, but we still don't know yet how Chao could affect Chachamaru's artifact to be that one.

If Chao was the minister, I doubt the card would work if Chao was on the future, since she's not even alive on this era yet...

but are we 100% sure that Chao returned to her "orginal timeline" ?? and not jumped into future but now on mars and waited for negi to appear ?

people are 100% sure that chao went home... but she could just lie and go for next plan as he expose magic to world has failed... so now it will be like destry magic world...

or we could ask... how Fate girls have a pactio with Fate without even kissing him ^^

many questions... but I guess this trial is to make negi become the "great ancestor"... I dont think negi wants to hurt one of his students and I guess this fight will make nodoka a use with the diary (but I guess we will see lots of "pyon's in her head xD"... but negi wants to save anya and asuna so he will do everything to do that he wont leave them behind becouse its what Chao wants

[Jaina]

Thanks for the translation Oldgringo2001, that makes things more interesting, but I have 2 issues with your post lol:

1) Chao left that technology behind didn't she? I don't think that Chachamaru is summoning the orbital cannon from the future, magic involving time is almost completely unheard of and yet we are expected to believe that a temporary pactio is doing just that?

2) I don't think Chao is using Magia Erebea, in the chapter she uses that in it looks similar to Negi's but Negi surmises that it is a scientific application capable of creating magic. It also drains her life energy to pull off some mid-level spells. I might be wrong, but I didn't interpret Chao's magic as Magia Erebea, but rather something which was forced upon her that she was loathe to use.

[oldgringo2001]

We don't know anything about Zazie's origins yet. She could be from the future, too.

As for Erebrea, I don't really believe Akamatsu planned all this ahead before he started the series. I think his whole conception of the magic world grew from his decision to make Chao a Martian. As I brought up long ago, the Chao of the Festival is probably inspired by Gunnm Last Order, or the Gunnm RPG that inspired it, "Martian Dreams." Gally (or Alita in the official translation) used an orbital weapons platform near the end of the first manga series. And the bit about magic runes over her body could have come from the first Conan the Barbarian movie. Wherever Akamatsu got that bit from, I think it took him a long time to extemporize the Erebrea bit as a power-up for Negi.

What really convinces me that there was never anything like a master plan is that in Fate's first encounter with Asuna he had no idea who she was or what her power was. Yet now we are supposed to believe that Fate's whole purpose of existence is to use Asuna to complete the plan of Cosmo E.

[Fenix_Zloi]

The last member Of Cosmo Ethelia (little one) Isn't he the brat who hang out around Kurt:amuse:amuse?

[fg7dragon]

Maybe.

[veron05]

I expect a break in the action will come next. It's going to take at least three chapters to resolve the Chao angle, and the real Evangaline will have to punish Negi for being such an idiot as to use her scroll--even if she knew he was fated to (You have picked up that Erebrea is the same magic Chao used, haven't you? You know, Negi's descendent?)

I have been wondering about that for a while now. But from pure looks, the runes on Chao are much different then the ones Negi has. Another observation is that when Chao "unlocked her magic" Negi seem to know what the spell/runes was. However when he was observing Rakan he did not recognize it. same for when he was fighting pseudo Eva. If they where similar i believe that Ken would of done a flash back cell of him remembering Chao. Also i believe that they are not back at mahora, but in another illusion like Kurt's projector room. or that's zazie's ability to make illusions.
notice that the ground is still messed up. When teleporting you dont take the ground with you.

On another side note. I do not think that Chao made a pactio with zazie. Not because its impossible due to time. (this is magic we are talking about) but i think that she could of made a pactio with Eva. Just out of pure power. I am still wondering how it would work since eva's powers are sealed. But if the pactio was formed while in her resort its possible. Eva might not be pulling all the strings but i believe that she could care less. (like zazie approached Eva and asked her.) When Chao was trying to reveal magic to the world. Eva didn't try and stop her, two reasons, it was negi's battle and because she couldn't care less about magic being revealed. Also i wouldn't put it past Eva to say no to a pactio, She loves to control people. :D

one last thing. i decided to make this as a small gag but who will win? click to make it bigger
http://lookpic.com/d2/t2/3387/2yLOmAL4.png (http://lookpic.com/d2/i2/3387/2yLOmAL4.png)

[Bowser]

Kurts Lacky. Does he have a name?

[veron05]

nope so i gave him one. lacky

[Jaina]

I still really don't buy Chao as Zazie's pactio partner. You have to be a mage in order to initiate a pactio don't you? Chao never did cast that magic from what I can tell, it was done forcibly without actually being a mage everything else was science.

[nontawit]

she is a mage didnt u see when she fight with negi during school festival but about pactio thing i dont know will see as the story go

[jakethesnake3713]

I also don't think that zazie is chaos partner. although if chibi mage was actually chao that would explain why chibi mage knew of zazie and would be able to call on her help

[masgrande]

she is a mage didnt u see when she fight with negi during school festival but about pactio thing i dont know will see as the story go

I think that was the seal that let her use artificial magic.

[Bowser]

Well Akamatsu must've planned what to do with the characters at least. I didnt even think about Zazie popping up.

I'm gonna bet Kurt's lacky, but how did he fool Kurt hmmm

[topkomputer]

I hope the one that summon zazie isn't another person from negi class. If she is, she could be "the luckiest girl in mahora" (forgot her name).

[fg7dragon]

The trans is out from cnet128.

[Doc Astaroth]

The trans is out from cnet128.

Woah!

Did Chisame just called everything out as one big Asspull!?
This is why I love this girl!

[oldgringo2001]

There's a torrent for the raw now.

My guess for the mysterious little mage is the creator of Fate; I think the mage looks more like Fate than any other character we know. In the new raw, you can see that one eye more clearly, and what look like the same wisps of hair falling on his cheeks.

Here's a page I did from cnet128's translation: My Blog (http://mostlymizushou.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-page-of-negima.html). Not great, but at least you can see who's talking now.

[renrutal]

Aaaaaaand Scanlation is out.... poyo!

I totally thing that mysterious person is Chao, maybe her relative in this time period.

[oldgringo2001]

It could be Chao, but I was expecting someone taller. Height mismatches are pretty commonplace, though, in the cut-and-past world of manga series, and Chao isn't all that tall according to the official height chart. If anyone's interested, I could post a couple of examples, both from mangaka I really love.

I'd love it if it was Chao; the series really lost something for me. I think it was one of Akamatsu-sensei's mis-steps to split Kaolla Su's functions into three characters. Satomi hasn't provided the really vital mad-scientist-stuff to compliment Gu Fei's cheerful quest to beat up every macho idiot in the known universe. If Ranma and Shampoo had a love child, it would explain a lot!

If it is Chao, things might get really dark. Chao's ultimate plan might involve erasing herself from history. Hey, Asuna might be Negi's bride after all, after Negi rescues her. Sounds like an endless loop, doesn't it? Or is it all another one of Suzimiya Haruhi's dreams?

Question of the day: Where do quantum mechanics buy their socket sets?

My Blog (http://mostlymizushou.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-page-of-negima.html) (In Color!)

[Bowser]

Maybe its a Chao who came from another time to aid Fate in case her first plan didn't work.
[hr]
Wait, theyre in Mahora now right...?

Bring on Eishun, Headmaster, Eva and Albireo!!!!

[Kevua]

http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/295/

295 is out

[jmangeo]

If you remember, Zect and Chao have "flushed cheeks" so they probably are related. Thinking in this way, could be Zect a traveler time too? after all, he disappeared (And I dont think he's died) after the last war.

In one way, I think Negi is diferent from his father, he chose the "dark side" so his form from save the world is diferent... so maybe Nagi and Zect are one side and Negi and Chao, another... (I think actually Chao refuses her first objetive and indeed she supports Negi)

It's makes sense for you?

As always, excuse me, I'm not native speaker :'o

[digit03]

uh..can someone pls post a chapter where fillius zect was in and were he died and stuff

[Bowser]

http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/267/10/

Here you go. I don't think its Zect though. Probably not the best example, but in the anime she has a girl voice right?

[veron05]

here is another link. Medium-hq http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/Mahou-Sensei-Negima/Rehwyn-Scans/267/9
For me mangatoshokan is a far better manga site then onemanga. it hosts all verisons that are uploaded to it. not just the one that is released first.
and in-terms of speed of release the same as one manga. and you can build your own reading list and it keeps it up-to-date.

[digit03]

I have been wondering about that for a while now. But from pure looks, the runes on Chao are much different then the ones Negi has. Another observation is that when Chao "unlocked her magic" Negi seem to know what the spell/runes was. However when he was observing Rakan he did not recognize it. same for when he was fighting pseudo Eva. If they where similar i believe that Ken would of done a flash back cell of him remembering Chao. Also i believe that they are not back at mahora, but in another illusion like Kurt's projector room. or that's zazie's ability to make illusions.
notice that the ground is still messed up. When teleporting you dont take the ground with you.

On another side note. I do not think that Chao made a pactio with zazie. Not because its impossible due to time. (this is magic we are talking about) but i think that she could of made a pactio with Eva. Just out of pure power. I am still wondering how it would work since eva's powers are sealed. But if the pactio was formed while in her resort its possible. Eva might not be pulling all the strings but i believe that she could care less. (like zazie approached Eva and asked her.) When Chao was trying to reveal magic to the world. Eva didn't try and stop her, two reasons, it was negi's battle and because she couldn't care less about magic being revealed. Also i wouldn't put it past Eva to say no to a pactio, She loves to control people. :D

one last thing. i decided to make this as a small gag but who will win? click to make it bigger
http://lookpic.com/d2/t2/3387/2yLOmAL4.png (http://lookpic.com/d2/i2/3387/2yLOmAL4.png)

it could be kurts lacky due to his rant abt negi and his friends http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/264/09/
it was quite odd.

[Bowser]

"The Gate for our escape has been secured - we can leave." 27minute in Mahou Mou Hitotsu no Sekai 1.

it's a girls voice, and since Akamatsu directed the actors and stuff, its likely to be a girl, I mean how can Akamatsu mess up the anime before manga? Manga comes first.

[Maedhros]

"The Gate for our escape has been secured - we can leave." 27minute in Mahou Mou Hitotsu no Sekai 1.

it's a girls voice, and since Akamatsu directed the actors and stuff, its likely to be a girl, I mean how can Akamatsu mess up the anime before manga? Manga comes first.

Negi's voiced by a girl too, but he's a boy. Goku is voiced by a girl, but he's a man. ETC. You know what I mean. Just because it has woman's voice, it doesn't mean it'll be a woman/girl.

[Osirist]

I have a theory about our little mini mage here

we've been going on about three possible suspects, Chao, Zect, and Kurt's Lacky, none of which seem very likely. (Chao left, Fillius died, and Lackys too damn obscure to be a main character) However, there is one person we haven't considered yet, Fate.

Now most of you may be saying he can't be mini mage, we saw them both standing next to each other after all. Well lets examine this for a sec, Fate is the third Averruncus, the "Averruncus of Earth" as Rakan said, and there were two before him that Nagi killed, but what does this mean? If you think of the traditional elements, you'll come up with Wind, Water, Fire, and Earth, in other words, Four

What if the mini mage is the Fourth Averruncus, it would make sense for there to be four of them after all, and he does look alot like Fate. He might even be from the future, and came back to help Tertium finish his master plan. Heck, maybe Zazie's one of the future Fate girls (she does look and act alot like that dragon chick that follows Fate around, sisters maybe?)

[veron05]

I have also been thinking that now, after i made that little image i was starting to consider another fate. But Im going to theorize about zazie. To be honest I think that Chao's plan ended. By that I mean She wanted to prevent fate's plan from coming this far. with that said i dont think Chao wanted the same results fate does. I think Zazie has been sent by Mahora academy. If you think about it how could she get past Eva, Al, and the principle? And then use the gate. I believe it's because they sent her. I made a prediction on a different site that Zazie had a pactio with Eva. Zazie's goal is to measure the level of convection Negi has with his choice. Now her connection with the Chibi mage. It is possible that the Chibi-mage is "working with fate." And could also be a spy following fate. But the likely hood of that is low. One last possible connection is Zazie could of warped in a while ago and sat around and talked with the chibi-mage kinda in that "where am I? while the mage was having tea. the mage was like would you like to joing me?" (lol if was true) Though I just really want to see Zazie fighting against fate's party.

[Bowser]

Negi's voiced by a girl too, but he's a boy. Goku is voiced by a girl, but he's a man. ETC. You know what I mean. Just because it has woman's voice, it doesn't mean it'll be a woman/girl.

But it's not about who voices them though - does Negi or Goku sound like a girl?

I'm gonna say Chao from another time as a random guess.

[Maedhros]

But it's not about who voices them though - does Negi or Goku sound like a girl?

I'm gonna say Chao from another time as a random guess.

Yes, specially Goku, you can say they're voiced by a girl. I prefer the dub version of DBZ because of this (because it was a good dub).

This chibi mage don't even look as Chao on the shots of his face, it looks more like a different Fate.

[DeathLion]

this might be off topic
but i think it might be not possible for negi to be just 10 years old...i mean his parents married 18 years ago.... so how could they have a son after a break of 8 years. man this is too much.
so basically what i am saying is, their might a time relation between two worlds..
well one is earth and other is mars.

and i think as negi party is on earth right now, this time relation could be mentioned in next few chapters.

and perhaps with this v can also get to know why asuna is way older than others.....


well thats just a prediction...............

[jakethesnake3713]

dude, they already mentioned the time relation in the chapter when they were preparing for war in mahora. they said time would only be skewed because the gate ports aren't keeping the worlds connected. from the context it sounded like normally the worlds are synced up timewise

[veron05]

though i do believe that he could be 11 by now. reason the Cassiopia (chao's time travel) all the extra training within Eva's resort, training inside Eva's Scroll, training inside the other Island place (forget what they are called). then once again more training inside the sphere and scroll. Then on top of that the Enhanced time between earth and MW that occurred after the collapse of the first gate port. so with that it's been more then half a year for Negi. I would take an quantum physicist to accurately calculate the time difference by now.

[deSolAxe]

as i was reading...
somebody was talking about pactio(s) and how Eva's magic is sealed... but i have this strong feeling that niether partner or master have to be mages(/qi users) .. as contract is formed by third side and cards are proof of it... (though without magic there will by basic card, not artifact one) if you notice it is always Chamo who's making contracts... and in Asakura's case there was even specialised shop

and about chibi mage...
I was thinking it might be Zect... when you look at
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/233/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/267/10/
you can tell by clothes it's the same person talking and to me it sounded more like taunting so I wouldn't be suprised if he was on Fate's side (especially that part about 2600 years of despair sound like he wanted to end it)
you might say he was erased... but if Nodoka knows how to revive erased people wouldn't fate's team too? ... especially when she got that info from Dynamis?

but after someone here wrote about it being another fate... if Tercium is "of earth" then there might be more... as far as it looks there are more than 4 elements in negima's magic... considering magic that was used up till now (at least those i can remember)
in part when girls are rescuing Negi to return to Mahora festival's final day... there is fire magic (1) and water magic (2)...
Negi uses lightening spells which are probably air magic (3)
Fate's spells like spear of stone are earth magic (4)
Eva's spells like maellus aquilonis are ice-type (5)
Negi's arrows of light .. some "white magic"? (6)
then you can coun't ME (7)
not even mentioning illusions, time-magic, healing, summoning, precognition magic... and you might go on ... i must have missed some...

so It's hard to say... even if you get to basics, then if I'm not mistaken there are 5 elements in eastern concept... which might suggest that dynamis is "of nothing" given his shadow manipulation... then question remains which two were already taken care of

hope you understand what i meant=)
eng is not my native lang =)

edit:
by the way as far as Zazie goes, she doesn't look exactly hostile to me.. if she could diasble those three without trouble, she could have as well torn them apart... so who knows what will come...