Don't you want to become a Magical Girl? (Galth's Thread)

[kadoman]

Kaa-chan, you teach english, you should know those things... -______-

I also knew, which makes it all the more embarrassing. >_<

Emphasis on the word English Khal...English. Not French. Mmmkay?

And what happened to Miss Present?


No english words use é or è. :oh

Thank you, I was about to point that out.

Besides, I cannot for the life of me pick up French. I mean, when I was last there (which was only a few months ago) I managed to say hello and goodbye and two tickets please and that was it. My husband on the other hand, was practically having conversations with people after only a week! Bastard. Mind you, I picked up Thai really easily when we were there while he struggled.


Cliché IS an english word, Kei-chan. >_>

And don't say loanwords don't count, 'cause 80% of all english words are loanwords anyway, if you take it back far enough. >_>

Loanwords don't count to the English Khal, especially French words, trust me on that one. I have been told that under no circumstances are French words (remember how much love the English have for the French?) to be considered in any way, shape or form English.

The attitude is latin = bad and is tolerated because they're stuck with it and Saxon = good and in fact superior. :amuse

So, don't go telling an English person that the word cliche (where's the little mark on my keyboard - don't have one.) is an English word or they'll tip their pint of English ale all over your head. :XD

[Nami]

:woot You know what's my favourite question now, don't you?

*looks at title*

[Galth]

And what happened to Miss Present?

I gave up on calling you that in summer '07. Besides, Kaa-chan is a much cuter nickname, which I started using after the pun increased in awesomeness *hint hint* :amuse

[Schwindelmagier]

Khal-nii-chan, when I killed my stupid art teacher, can I hide in your house?

[Galth]

Empty beds enough, so: sure. But wouldn't it be better if you chose a safer place to hide? xD

[Schwindelmagier]

Don't worry. You are my nii-chan, I trust you. Where could it be safer? And an air ticket to either Malaysia or Ohio is too expensive. The Netherlands should be a good placed to hide.

[baboysai]

Ne. If I said I wanted a hug, would you give me one??? :wtf

[Galth]

Depends on whether you're in hugging range or not. I don't have money for plane tickets. :oh

:hug

[baboysai]

I really need the hug.

My 2nd sister got married. I kinda miss her, even if she was the coldest of all my sisters.

I always cry at weddings. -_-

[Schwindelmagier]

I also cried at the wedding of my big sis. I dunno why though. Maybe it was so touching. ^^
Now, she and her husband are fighting so much that I wonder how they got together in the first place. Lol xD

[baboysai]

Question.

Who's the best pairing in manga-dom?

[Galth]

Hmmm, no idea...

How about Real!Syao with Real!Saku?

[Nami]

Shin-kun :hug
Returning any chocolates in a month's time?

[baboysai]

Hmmm, no idea...

How about Real!Syao with Real!Saku?

I just had to ask. from what manga are they?


Shin-kun :hug
Returning any chocolates in a month's time?

Which reminds me, how many chocolates did you receive? :p

[Schwindelmagier]

Real!Syao and Real!Saku, so... Syaoran and Sakura who are NO clones are from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE. :love

[baboysai]

Oh... :shakefist

I didn't realize it was Syaoran and Sakura. :sweatdrop But it's quite confusing which is which right now.

[Galth]

Which reminds me, how many chocolates did you receive? :p

None, obviously, since we don't celebrate valentines like that in the Neds. :oh

[baboysai]

*peeps*

so can I give you one? *giggles*

[Galth]

It's saturday the 16th today, babi-tan. :oh

[rhapsody blue]

but it's better late than never, khal.

don't be so picky, silly. it's chocolate after all.

[baboysai]

It's saturday the 16th today, babi-tan. :oh

It is??? Oh shoot.

And I was so happy to give you my chocolate! Darn. Is this the arrow of rejection? :crying
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Somebody comfort me! I'm bleeding!

[rhapsody blue]

poor bb :comfort

why must khal be so cruel?

[Xophien]

Because he's the fukudanchou :oh

[baboysai]

:fangirl

and you have a shin-chan avatar! My heart just stopped beating. :faint

[kaylee]

Can I still come here even if I'm not a fan of Kyou, and have no clue who he is? :wtf

(Who is he?)

Also, love your avy, Shin-chan. :love

[Xophien]

I think the Kyou he's talking about is a she, and Clannad's Fujibayashi Kyou (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/Xophien/Kyou.jpg). This'd make sense since he's using the Clannad sig I made right now (which just fits him so well xD)

[Luckas]

I was really surprised by
what Okazaki did at the ending of ep 18; it seems to me too soon :confused

[Galth]

Yes, danchou, quite correct, it was Fujibayashi Kyou. :amuse


I was really surprised by
what Okazaki did at the ending of ep 18; it seems to me too soon :confused

"You need to see the top of the mountain first before falling down."

Kukuku~



And a challenge for all the NANA-fans in here! Get me a better Shinichi avatar, since I'm not satisfied with this one! :o

[Luckas]

"You need to see the top of the mountain first before falling down."

Kukuku~
If there is some reference or meaning I don't get it :darn

[Schwindelmagier]

SUNOHARA ROCKS!

[Galth]

Eh, of course Sunohara rocks. :amuse


If there is some reference or meaning I don't get it :darn

I meant that since the series is going to have some really sad, dramatic last episodes, it's natural for it to build up the happiness right before it all goes wrong. Standard plot mechanism. ^__^

And well, it's a Key game, so you can pretty much guess what's coming, eh? Hehehe~

[Luckas]

Eh, of course Sunohara rocks. :amuse



I meant that since the series is going to have some really sad, dramatic last episodes, it's natural for it to build up the happiness right before it all goes wrong. Standard plot mechanism. ^__^

And well, it's a Key game, so you can pretty much guess what's coming, eh? Hehehe~I got it, thanks :)

[kaylee]

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin4.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin3.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin2.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin1.jpg

any of these work?

[Schwindelmagier]

They all look very nice but the third one looks the best I think.

[Nami]

Cool, you finally found a nice Shin avatar! :amuse
Have you read the latest chapter of Nana yet? DO you think Takumi will ever end up with Hachi?

[Schwindelmagier]

Can anyone tell me what Nana is about? I have never read it nor informed myself.

[Galth]

Can anyone tell me what Nana is about? I have never read it nor informed myself.

Life. As it shouldn't be.

It's about two girls - both called Nana - that after some coincidences end up rooming together, and about two friendly/rival bands (one of which one of the Nanas is the vocalist for) called Trapnest (TraNes) and Black Stones (BlaSt) and the relations of the members of them both and of Nana. They all love-yet-hate eachother, which makes for some chaotic and dramatic relations. :amuse

In short: it's about pretty artwork and pretty people having a rough time. :oh
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http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin4.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin3.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin2.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/kaylee042/shin1.jpg

any of these work?


Hmm, they're not really my style... Perhaps the last one though, I like that one best. (I actually had that first one for an avatar for a while, though~)

[Schwindelmagier]

Maybe I should give nana a try when I have more free time.

[baboysai]

And a challenge for all the NANA-fans in here! Get me a better Shinichi avatar, since I'm not satisfied with this one! :o

Ask Nami. She always has NANA avatars.




In short: it's about pretty artwork and pretty people having a rough time. :oh

kyahahahaha!

I have a question to ask though. What's Clannad about?

(Since I've already caught up with Claymore and looking for new series again)

[death4578]

I have a question to ask though. What's Clannad about?

(Since I've already caught up with Claymore and looking for new series again)

Slice of life, sad love stories, with a bit of otaku references, have you already watched Kanon or Air ? It's the same, adaptation of a visual novel game.

Or, summary

Tomoya meets a lot of girls and see what happen next ><

[kaylee]

Hmm, they're not really my style... Perhaps the last one though, I like that one best. (I actually had that first one for an avatar for a while, though~)

Yeah, I know they're not your style... it was the best I could do though. :scry

It sucks, because there are so many other Shin-chan panels that suit you so much better, but I couldn't find any of them colored. :darn

(up to volume 17 now, btw) :D

[baboysai]

I just realized Clannad's a harem manga.

I've never read those types before... Love Hina didn't appeal to me (the anime), and that was then that I decided.

what do you say?

[Galth]

*cough*

Clannad manga? Who cares about that? Go with the anime. All the Key-based manga series are mediocre at best.

And well, comparing Love Hina to Clannad isn't acceptable, they're not in the same genre.
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If you really want a good manga though, go with one of the following, assuming you didn't read 'em yet:

Arakawa Hiromu's Fullmetal Alchemist
Eiichirō Oda's One Piece
Hirano Kōta's Hellsing
Inagaki Riichiro & Murata Yusuke's Eyeshield21
Iwahara Yūji's King Of Thorn
Kōji Kumeta's Sayonara Zetsubō-sensei (but you've already read it, right?)
Mashima Hiro's Fairy Tail
Miura Kentarō's Berserk
Peach-Pit's Zombie-Loan
Tanabe Yellow's Kekkaishi
Yabuki Kentarō's Black Cat

[baboysai]

*cough*

Clannad manga? Who cares about that? Go with the anime. All the Key-based manga series are mediocre at best.

And well, comparing Love Hina to Clannad isn't acceptable, they're not in the same genre.

well there, you said it.

how come Love Hina and Clannad are not the same? From the summary they sound the same. Well, I can't really argue since I haven't read any of the two :lmao

and now that you say it's mediocre, I won't touch it.


Arakawa Hiromu's Fullmetal Alchemist - still making up my mind about it... er. Okay. :p
Eiichirō Oda's One Piece- downloaded it (4G worth) and deleted it (without even reading it :darn)
Hirano Kōta's Hellsing- maybe
Inagaki Riichiro & Murata Yusuke's Eyeshield21- loves it.
Iwahara Yūji's King Of Thorn- maybe
Kōji Kumeta's Sayonara Zetsubō-sensei (but you've already read it, right?)- yep.
Mashima Hiro's Fairy Tail- maybe
Miura Kentarō's Berserk- loves it.
Peach-Pit's Zombie-Loan- maybe
Tanabe Yellow's Kekkaishi- been thinking about it for quite some time now.
Yabuki Kentarō's Black Cat- never considered it, but since you recommend it... well. maybe.
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EDIT:

*agrees to read Kekkaishi. 20 volumes so far.. This will take a while...*

[kaylee]

Shin-chan, you told me a while ago that if I was going to read TRC, I should read it side-by-side with xxxHolic.... where exactly do they intersect, and what's the best way to go about this? One volume of each at a time?

[xi0]

Slice of life, sad love stories, with a bit of otaku references, have you already watched Kanon or Air ? It's the same, adaptation of a visual novel game.

Or, summary

Tomoya meets a lot of girls and see what happen next ><

It's hardly a love story or romance series IMO...but I've only watched 13 episodes so far.

[baboysai]

really? but I enjoyed TRC without reading xxxHolic...

[kadoman]

Arakawa Hiromu's Fullmetal Alchemist - still making up my mind about it... er. Okay. :p

Personally, I prefer the anime, but the manga art is so pretty! :wtf



Eiichirō Oda's One Piece- downloaded it (4G worth) and deleted it (without even reading it :darn)

You did the right thing. Good girl. :p

[xi0]

You did the right thing. Good girl. :p

She'll do the right thing eventually. :kukuku

[Gold Knight]

Yeah, I know they're not your style... it was the best I could do though. :scry

It sucks, because there are so many other Shin-chan panels that suit you so much better, but I couldn't find any of them colored. :darn


At least you can find some Shin pics. It's almost impossible to find any good Yasu ones.

[EDIT: Deleted Explanation about TRC/xxxHolic, see Khal's post >.<]

[kadoman]

Although I think I liked reading TRC first just to get the "big picture." Maybe start TRC for about 2 volumes, and then go to xxxHolic and read the first 3 volumes, and then side-by-side from then on (though I'd probably finish reading one arc of TRC and then go to a new arc in xxxHolic, and so on, just so I don't lose the excitement of following the current arc.) Well, I guess that'd how I'd do it anyway, maybe Khal will recommend otherwise.

That...sounds...really complicated. :s

[baboysai]

You did the right thing. Good girl. :p

you don't like OP?

[Galth]

you don't like OP?

Kaa-san has a Futami-style case of Bad Taste (tm), don't listen to her.

And I think reading trcHOLiC at the same time works best if you read tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE until it intersects with xxxHOLiC, then change to xxxHOLiC and read up to that point, etc etc. That should work.

If you want to read them one after another in large goes though, take Tsubasa before xxxHOLiC, otherwise you might get some information that trc is better read without... Though no permanent spoiler damage... They really did a great job interweaving the two stories without ruining or spoiling one of them if not read both...
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Personally, I prefer the anime, but the manga art is so pretty! :wtf

Oh, come on, the anime doesn't even compare to the manga in awesomeness... The only parts where the anime managed to get some points in a categorie that the manga doesn't win would have been the erm... fourth opening (Rewrite) and Romi Paku. :amuse

Apart from that, the story of the manga is just so much more detailed, well thought out and planned and overal more serious, and a lot of the most interesting characters in the series only appear in the manga (I'm obviously referring to people like Li and Pride, hehehe~ or the manga-version of Kimblee, who is totally superior to his generic anime counterpart). Also, "a certain death" (you all know who I mean) is much more dramatic in the manga. And the art... well, that goes without saying, Arakawa-sensei is amazing and surprisingly consistent in her drawing.
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It's hardly a love story or romance series IMO...but I've only watched 13 episodes so far.

Well, I'm not saying there's no romance/love elements in it, there's been quite some hinting and the current episodes (17/18 etc) are quite focussed on it, to a certain degree, but it's definitely not the main focus of the series, which - in my eyes - is one of the things needed for something to classify as a harem series (like ichigo 100%, i''s, love hina, etc etc). But then again, it does have some clear harem elements as well, it's just not as simple a story as those aforementioned.

[Gold Knight]

That...sounds...really complicated. :s

Yeah...



And I think reading trcHOLiC at the same time works best if you read tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE until it intersects with xxxHOLiC, then change to xxxHOLiC and read up to that point, etc etc. That should work.

If you want to read them one after another in large goes though, take Tsubasa before xxxHOLiC, otherwise you might get some information that trc is better read without... Though no permanent spoiler damage... They really did a great job interweaving the two stories without ruining or spoiling one of them if not read both...

Khal's explanation is better. In fact, I'm going to delete my post so I don't scare Kaylee off >.<

[kaylee]

And I think reading trcHOLiC at the same time works best if you read tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE until it intersects with xxxHOLiC, then change to xxxHOLiC and read up to that point, etc etc. That should work.


Hmm, I still don't understand. How do I know where they intersect, if I'm not reading both at once? Will it be really obvious? Aren't there some of the same characters in both mangas? And do they ever intersect mid-volume? It's much easier to read a full volume at a time when catching up on manga.

Eh, I'll figure it out I guess.



Oh, come on, the anime doesn't even compare to the manga in awesomeness... The only parts where the anime managed to get some points in a categorie that the manga doesn't win would have been the erm... fourth opening (Rewrite) and Romi Paku. :amuse


Hmm, I've only ever seen the anime. Did I ruin the manga for myself by watching the anime first?

[baboysai]

But I enjoyed the FMA anime. but yeah, like you guys said. Was it just vol 3 when they started animating?

Actually I'm convinced now that I should read the manga.

[Galth]

The FMA anime isn't bad, quite the opposite. It's just that the manga is so much more awesome. :amuse

[Gold Knight]

Treat the FMA anime and manga as two completely different entities, please. And the manga still should be considered the definitive FMA story.

By the way, what is a Kyou-fan?

[kaylee]

By the way, what is a Kyou-fan?

A fan of Kyou? :oh

And according to Xophy :


I think the Kyou he's talking about is a she, and Clannad's Fujibayashi Kyou (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/Xophien/Kyou.jpg). This'd make sense since he's using the Clannad sig I made right now (which just fits him so well xD)


I wonder why Khal hasn't kicked us out yet... :oh

[Gold Knight]

Secretly he loves us all <3

[Schwindelmagier]

Hey, nii-chan. Still coming to Japan Day?

[baboysai]

Khal, I've started on Kekkaishi, did I mention that already?

though I'm still at vol. 4. Will be reading again tonight, so bye. :oh

[Galth]

I wonder why Khal hasn't kicked us out yet... :oh

Because Khal knows that if his Kei-chan were watching Clannad, she'd love Kyou as well. :3

That probably won't go for Babi-tan and Phil1 though... Hmm...

[kaylee]

"his Kei-chan"?

Awww, you are unexpectedly sweet sometimes. :hug

[baboysai]

That probably won't go for Babi-tan and Phil1 though... Hmm...

why do you say that? :P

[kaylee]

I miss your old sig and avy. You changed them too fast. :(

Where are the new ones from?

[Xophien]

Sketchbook ~full color's~

[Galth]

Exactly.

[kaylee]

Worth watching? (compared to, for example, ef, air, kanon, & kimikiss, since it seems to be of the same type).

[Galth]

since it seems to be of the same type.

Hell no! (@ the "same type" thing)

...And you group KimiKiss ~pure rouge~ with ef - a tale of memories, AIR and Kanon? Interesting... I always found KimiKiss to be the odd one out... More like a normal highschool romance-comedy series, compared to the others, who are bigger dramatic tearjerker series. :3

Oh, and Sketchbook isn't a romance series, it's "just" a comedy. Well, not really, but I guess that comes closest to describing it...

Sketchbook ~full color'S~ is a slice of life series, it's very quiet, slow, tranquille, has no real 'story' so to say (since it's based on a yonkoma series as well, if I'm not mistaken). It's basically a comedy, but very simple, slow, not all-out hilarious really. The main character is a shy, quiet girl (I think she has only a handful of lines in the entire series xD) who spends most of her time admiring the little things in life in her own way, and at her own pace... like cats, bugs, random things she notices, nature, the people around her, stuff like that~ Oh, and she's in the art club (they all are) and the art club exists of erm... well... basically they're all just really odd people (I guess only the tall buy with the black hair can be considered 'normal', hehehe~).

Watch the first episode if you're ever bored and you'll know if it's worth your time. Thirteen episodes in all, fully subbed (since last week).

[Schwindelmagier]

Shall I watch ef or sketchbook? :oh

[Galth]

ef.

[Schwindelmagier]

Okay.

[kaylee]

Hell no! (@ the "same type" thing)

...And you group KimiKiss ~pure rouge~ with ef - a tale of memories, AIR and Kanon? Interesting... I always found KimiKiss to be the odd one out... More like a normal highschool romance-comedy series, compared to the others, who are bigger dramatic tearjerker series. :3


:rofl

Ah, Khal... I knew you would berate me for that one. :p But anyway, yes, I know they're different but I do group them together because they're more similar to each other than to the other anime I've watched. And, as you should know, I haven't watched very much anime at all, so I have fewer "buckets" for categorization. Maybe once I've watched as much anime as you, I'll fully categorize and sub-categorize all my anime according to your standards. :p


But anyway... thanks for the description. I'll add it to my list and keep it in mind. :amuse

[baboysai]

Somehow I've deserted watching ALL anime since the naruto fillers kicked in, and switched head on to manga. Except maybe school rumble.

I am downloading claymore anime right now though, just because I can't get enough of it. And I'm left with nothing to read or watch again. -_-

btw, Khal. I've enjoyed Kekkaishi, so thanks for the recommendation. :hug Still haven't caught up with it, but by tonight I will be. :oh

[Galth]

I am downloading claymore anime right now though, just because I can't get enough of it. And I'm left with nothing to read or watch again. -_-

Are you downloading the pretty DVD releases by Eclipse? <3

They've released them up to episode 20 (which is the latest dvd episode availlable right now) and you can get 21-26 in normal quality for now and replace them when those episodes are released as well in a few weeks/months? <3

[baboysai]

yeah i think that's it. about 2++ G. -_- If I like it I'll buy it, I guess..

[Galth]

Buy? You can speak japanese? Or did it get licensed recently without me noticing...

edit/

"On February 15, 2008, Funimation announced that it has acquired the Region 1 license to release the Claymore anime series in North America."

Oh hey! You're right! Interesting~

Though... are they releasing it translated over there in the 'Pines for you?

[baboysai]

Haha I actually didn't do my research either. -_- I just know I can buy it somewhere, but I don't know the details of the product yet. :p *Will snoop around for info*

[LadyHatake]

Claymore~~ I've watched the first 10 or so episodes, need to get around to watching the rest. So much to catch up on @___@

Khal-alily, explain to me what a swoky-dn is. Does it have something to do with Zetsobu (which I still haven't gotten around to watching)

[Xophien]

Khal-alily, explain to me what a swoky-dn is. Does it have something to do with Zetsobu (which I still haven't gotten around to watching)

It's the Save the World by Overloading it with Konata-ism and Yuri brigade (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5641) (Dan in this case means Brigade), of which Khal is the fukudanchou, aka the vice-leader of the brigade :oh

[LadyHatake]

oh. >.>

I always saw fukudanchou as Fuck You Danchou :/ does fuku- mean something else then?

[Xophien]

Fuku- as a prefix means vice- (or secondary, or sub), like the fukutaichou being a vice-captain :amuse

[LadyHatake]

So whats a dango then?

Oh, my ..... -_-; .....

[baboysai]

oh. >.>

I always saw fukudanchou as Fuck You Danchou :/ does fuku- mean something else then?

:rofl

you know, maybe that could work too! I'm laughing so much I'm crying :rofl

[death4578]

So whats a dango then?

Oh, my ..... -_-; .....

The real Dango (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dango) stuff, or in Clannad, Dango Daikazoku (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qfO7QctjKO4).

[Xophien]

The real Dango (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dango) stuff, or in Clannad, Dango Daikazoku (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qfO7QctjKO4).

And I'm using it as a pun, since Dango is written 団子, and the characters mean "brigade" and "child", so it is kinda fitting for the members of this brigade :oh

[Gold Knight]

Yeah, I have this urge to say "Fuku..." to Khal occasionally, that works for me I guess. :oh

[Schwindelmagier]

Btw, what are "swoky-dan-members"?

[kaylee]

Btw, what are "swoky-dan-members"?

Read a few posts up. :p


It's the Save the World by Overloading it with Konata-ism and Yuri brigade (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5641) (Dan in this case means Brigade), of which Khal is the fukudanchou, aka the vice-leader of the brigade :oh

[Schwindelmagier]

Oh right, thanks :sweat

[baboysai]

Question:

what did you think about Shishio Gen's death in Kekkaishi?

[Galth]

Great. :D

The other options were "everything is fine", standard shounen stuff, or he'd have gone Sasuke and joined Kokuborou, which is even worse. Besides, I've always loved it when a mangaka had the guts to kill off (main) characters, it's needed for a sense of realism. :amuse

How can they possibly say that Kokuborou was such a great enemy, if the war didn't bring any casualties on their side? That'd be weird, right? One is still not that much, but at least it's something. :amuse

And well, I'd never really been a fan of *insert Raizou voice* Gen-geeen!! anyway.

The only thing about his death that I didn't like was the aftermath. Yoshimori went into revenge mode, which was a lot less interesting than his early self, and Tokine pretty much disappeared from the story for an arc or three, because of it. >_>;

[baboysai]

What I didn't like about it though was that it was all so sudden, and i felt like there were no follow-ups to properly close him off the manga. I mean, he just disappeared. That's why while I was reading the chapters after, I was wondering if like, he'd resurrect or something because it was just all so abrupt.

I began to attach myself to him because he was involved in a lot of stuff, and he showed so much growth, and he just died like that. Sigh. It was really ok for me if he died, just that it could have been done with more impact, or with more emotion. He ended up a minor character in the end, when he caused so much change for Yoshimori.

[Galth]

Eh? He was a main character for around six volumes, was he not? And during those six, he was the main focus. You can hardly call anyone a minor character after that. o_O

I mean, so far he's gotten much more screentime than even Masamori...

And well, he's gotten much more character developement than for instance Tokine, and even after he died, he echoed into Yoshimori until the end of the Kokuborou Arc, which means he got another three or four volumes of fame. And well, you can't say it was without emotion either, it's probably just that you compare it to the really dramatic stuff like Nana or Berserk or D.Gray-Man or One Piece or whatever, that you've failed to notice that - for a shounen - it was actually pretty well-executed, hehehe~
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I was wondering if like, he'd resurrect or something because it was just all so abrupt.

Death is abrupt, as it should be. Resurrecting is a weak plot mechanism that mangaka should only use if there's no other option, because it can seriously damage a series' credibility (*cough*Gaara*cough*).

[baboysai]

Eh? He was a main character for around six volumes, was he not? And during those six, he was the main focus. You can hardly call anyone a minor character after that. o_O

I mean, so far he's gotten much more screentime than even Masamori...

what I meant was, that though he was a major character, screentime for his death or lamenting was really short. -_- oh well, like any other deaths, I guess I just have to deal with it.

PS: I started reading GANTZ today, and I can't stop. It's awesome. :wtf

[kaylee]

Death is abrupt, as it should be. Resurrecting is a weak plot mechanism that mangaka should only use if there's no other option, because it can seriously damage a series' credibility (*cough*Gaara*cough*).

Gaara being resurrected never bothered me... it didn't add anything to the manga, but I never thought it damaged it either. I know a lot of people had a problem with it though.... Now, if Jiraiya is somehow brought back, I'd definitely be upset over it.

I don't know if you care one way or the other, but how do you feel about Orochimaru somehow coming back (either through Sasuke, Kabuto, or both)? Will it ruin his character too?



PS: I started reading GANTZ today, and I can't stop. It's awesome. :wtf

Gantz is awesome, but if you don't like abrupt character deaths, you might have a bit of a problem with it. :p

[baboysai]

Gantz is awesome, but if you don't like abrupt character deaths, you might have a bit of a problem with it. :p

I'm not bothered by sudden deaths if they're minor characters.

F*ck I only have one hour to sleep since I have to wake up early for my dragonboat training, but GANTZ is keeping me awake :scry

spank me, Khal-san.

[Schwindelmagier]

I just sent my friend Misa some b/w pictures. She should decide which picture she likes best, I will draw it and she gets it as b-day present to her birthday which happens to be February 9.
Among the pictures is also Vampire Knight (3x Vampire Knight cover, 2x TRC cover, 1x xxxHolic cover) picture.
And what happened? I just fell in love with megane-zero from the cover of chapter 21. Lol.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5188/vampireknightch2101nb3.png

[Galth]

I don't know if you care one way or the other, but how do you feel about Orochimaru somehow coming back (either through Sasuke, Kabuto, or both)? Will it ruin his character too?

Orocchan is a different case entirely. Rebirth and immortality have been themes his entire character are based upon. It would actually be a plotruiner if he didn't return.

Besides, for someone who was supposed to be the main antagonist at some point, his death was far too sudden and anti-climactic.

Also, Kabuto - who used to be a favourite characters of mine - needs to find a way to return to the story, and without Orocchan, he's got no reason to fill panels, so Orocchan definitely needs to wriggle his snakeys back into the manga so he can be used as a vehicle for Kabuto to shine! (Or the other way around, I don't particularly care, as long as my hope of seeing Kabuto again is fulfilled, fufufu~)
[hr]

spank me, Khal-san.

That'd make someone else jealous, so my hands are unfortunately tied. Besides, I'm not S. :oh

[kaylee]

I'm not bothered by sudden deaths if they're minor characters.


Ah. :oh

Soooo, how far are you? :oh



http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5188/vampireknightch2101nb3.png

Damn, that is nice. Bishies in glasses :love
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Orocchan is a different case entirely. Rebirth and immortality have been themes his entire character are based upon. It would actually be a plotruiner if he didn't return.


Hmm, I never thought about it that way actually, but it does make a lot of sense.



Besides, for someone who was supposed to be the main antagonist at some point, his death was far too sudden and anti-climactic.


I thought you were all for sudden deaths though... The problem is that Orochimaru stopped being the primary antagonist at the end of part 1, so it seems more likely that Kishi just wanted to get him out of the way because he didn't know what else to do with him. I'd love to see Orochimaru come back though. He was a fantastic villain.


Also, Kabuto - who used to be a favourite characters of mine - needs to find a way to return to the story, and without Orocchan, he's got no reason to fill panels, so Orocchan definitely needs to wriggle his snakeys back into the manga so he can be used as a vehicle for Kabuto to shine! (Or the other way around, I don't particularly care, as long as my hope of seeing Kabuto again is fulfilled, fufufu~)


Kabuto <3333
I always thought we'd see more from him, or a deeper side to him, and I was disappointed when it didn't happen. Kishi's set it up to bring Kabuto back one way or another though, although I don't know how Kishi would tie Kabuto into Akatsuki.

Actually, I'd kinda like to see Orochimaru resurface in both Sasuke and Kabuto at the same time. That'd be fun. :D



That'd make someone else jealous...

"Someone"? :oh Share the love, I'd say. :XD

[Schwindelmagier]

Khal, get the girl you adore to know that you love her. If there's one....

[Gold Knight]

I thought you were all for sudden deaths though... The problem is that Orochimaru stopped being the primary antagonist at the end of part 1, so it seems more likely that Kishi just wanted to get him out of the way because he didn't know what else to do with him. I'd love to see Orochimaru come back though. He was a fantastic villain.

I still maintain that Orochimaru will be back in full force by the end of the series. It's becoming quickly apparent that Kishimoto never intended for the Akatsuki to be the final villains. (With the exception of possibly Tobi/Madara.)



Actually, I'd kinda like to see Orochimaru resurface in both Sasuke and Kabuto at the same time. That'd be fun. :D

Y A O I


Ah. :oh

Soooo, how far are you? :oh


Gantz has a way of surprising you just when you thought somebody was dead for good though. For me, that moment was an absolute pleasure (and solidly cemented my fondness of the manga.)

I still remember ranting happily to DZ about it - and she had never read the manga before -_-;

[kaylee]

Y A O I


:rofl

Honestly, I wasn't even thinking about yaoi when I wrote that. Although, now that you mention it... :drool



Gantz has a way of surprising you just when you thought somebody was dead for good though. For me, that moment was an absolute pleasure (and solidly cemented my fondness of the manga.)

True, true, that's one of the best parts about it. :D

[LadyHatake]

Actually, I'd kinda like to see Orochimaru resurface in both Sasuke and Kabuto at the same time. That'd be fun. :D




....LOL xD "resurface" in both at once, eh? kekeke 8D Sounds like something I'd want to watch :3

[kaylee]

Gaaah! I wrote something extremely perverted and didn't even realize it! Now, Katy I can understand picking up on the yaoi innuendos, but GK?! I'm losing it. :darn

[LadyHatake]

nyahahah, he must have been around us girls too longg xD

[baboysai]

That'd make someone else jealous, so my hands are unfortunately tied. Besides, I'm not S. :oh

Someone else??? are you referring to *bleep* or probably *bleep*, or hmm.. perhaps *bleep*? ah.

And it doesn't take an M to take a beating. Extremely naughty girls should be spanked often.

:o



Soooo, how far are you? :oh

you referring to GANTZ? I'm about to read... v17. So I'll disappear for now and read on it. I was actually so engrossed about it that I had a nightmare about it last night. When I get into a manga, I really can't get it out of my mind for a time. And I get withdrawal symptoms. :XD

earlier today I hurried home from school because I just had to catch up on gantz. And to my dismay I forgot my keys. :rant I had to wait for my boyfriend to open the door and he was at work. :scry I cried, all the while thinking "That's 3 hours of manga-reading lost! :yelling"


I still maintain that Orochimaru will be back in full force by the end of the series. It's becoming quickly apparent that Kishimoto never intended for the Akatsuki to be the final villains. (With the exception of possibly Tobi/Madara.)

I agree. There is no closure as of yet about the orochimaru "particles" that both sasuke and Kabuto er... ingested.


Gantz has a way of surprising you just when you thought somebody was dead for good though. For me, that moment was an absolute pleasure (and solidly cemented my fondness of the manga.)

post ignored. lalalalalala.


....LOL xD "resurface" in both at once, eh? kekeke 8D Sounds like something I'd want to watch :3

honestly, I didn't get it too. GK is much keener in sensing YAOI puns... :shifty

[Gold Knight]

I thought it was rather obvious :sweatdrop

[Schwindelmagier]

My gawd, I had to think of Lulu and Suzaku during Biology class the whole time. I am so lucky that we do not really learn anything at the moment because my thoughts were dominated by Lelouch and Suzaku being alone in one room.... I am glad that nobody could read my mind. :sweat

[Galth]

And you're posting that in this thread because...? :oh

[Schwindelmagier]

I dunno. Do I need a reason to post any random stuff in my nii-chan's thread?

[Galth]

Hmm, I s'pose not. :3

In other news, I'm finally watching a certain movie tonight. <3

[Schwindelmagier]

A certain movie? A certain movie with the name Sweeney Todd?

[baboysai]

*is curious what that movie could be :shifty *

[LadyHatake]

If it's Sweeney Todd, then I must say: "ABOUT DAMN TIME!" >D

[Xophien]

And you're posting that in this thread because...? :oh

You know, if you hadn't said that, I could have sworn I was in kay-chan's thread >.>;

[Galth]

You know, if you hadn't said that, I could have sworn I was in kay-chan's thread >.>;

Yeah, I get confused every now and then myself who's thread it is we're talking in, especially in threads that're SWOKY-dan property. xD



Question to all: Which of these series should I buy next? (In real life, I mean)
Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE / xxxHOLiC / Vampire Knight / NANA

[Xophien]

xxxHolic. Especially if you've got the pretty looking covers like I get :shakefist

[baboysai]

I'd say NANA! coz it's about to be completed (i think)

[Schwindelmagier]

Why do you have to list THREE series I love to death? :oh
Etou~~~

Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE.

[LadyHatake]

Tsubasa, duh <3 Since it's the only one I've read (mostly. A few chaps behind atm >.>)

[Schwindelmagier]

Or you read Tsubasa and Vampire Knight. There are just a few VK-volumes out up to now so it would not be that much money for you.

[kaylee]

You know, if you hadn't said that, I could have sworn I was in kay-chan's thread >.>;

And if she hadn't mentioned "biology class", I could've sworn I'd written that post myself... >_>;;



Question to all: Which of these series should I buy next? (In real life, I mean)
Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE / xxxHOLiC / Vampire Knight / NANA

Wow, great picks. I want to buy all of the above. :D

Humm, how much money do you have? You're talking about a wide range of volumes, if you're planning to buy the entire series at once. If it'd were me, I'd buy whichever one is available first on eBay. But... you probably don't want used books(?)

You should buy whichever one has the most most benefit of hard copy over scans. So, like Xophy suggested, maybe go with the one with the best color spreads? Or go with the one you'd be more likely to reread? It's a personal choice though... :p

[Xophien]

And if she hadn't mentioned "biology class", I could've sworn I'd written that post myself... >_>;;

Well, I did spend my day at work thinking about Konata and Kagami, so I guess it's the same for me too >_>;;

[Galth]

Wow, great picks. I want to buy all of the above. :D

Humm, how much money do you have? You're talking about a wide range of volumes, if you're planning to buy the entire series at once. If it'd were me, I'd buy whichever one is available first on eBay. But... you probably don't want used books(?)

You should buy whichever one has the most most benefit of hard copy over scans. So, like Xophy suggested, maybe go with the one with the best color spreads? Or go with the one you'd be more likely to reread? It's a personal choice though... :p

I have a strange disease which can be described as either "a very strong dislike of 'used' books" or "a fetish for fresh, unopened books" (with that lovely factory smell~ <3) or both. Probably both. I'll never, never buy a second-hand book if I can help it.

The "most benifit of hard copy over scans"... Probably Tsubasa then (I already own the first five anyway), but they're so damn expensive at eight and a half euro a piece... Also, my sister's already read it (up to and including volume thirteen), and if I pick any of the other series, it'd have the benefit of me getting her to read it, which means I get an insider to share my love for certain characters or jokes with, hmmm~

I've decided to buy at least tsubasa 14-15-16 so I can get my sister to catch up to that series, and since it just so happens that tsubasa becomes god-bloody-awesome from that point on, they're the volumes I want most out of the tsubasa ones... I'll bridge the 6-13 gap at a later point, when my income does allow so, yes yes. :nod

So... xxxHOLiC the same, they're so bloody expensive... worth it though... But there's also Vampire Knight/NANA, which would have the added value of me being able to say that I've got some shoujo as well, finally (since it's like 95% shounen and one or two seinen volumes on my shelf, as of now, which is something I'll have to work on -- those shounen series tend to include a godawful lot of volume, y'know?).

I guess it'll be Vampire Knight + those three Tsubasa volumes then... I'm planning to buy 'em all in the end, but well, the income of a highschool student without job isn't all that spectacular, y'see? That's be another rhyme on the Song of Later.


And now for something completely different -- which is not a man with a taperecorder in his nose, if you were wondering: the movie was excellent. Quite so, quite so (In high british, you need to repeat what you said to stress it, repeat).
[hr]

Tsubasa, duh <3 Since it's the only one I've read (mostly. A few chaps behind atm >.>)

My dear. Just because it's the only one you've read doesn't make it the best one of the bunch. That's narutard logic.

[Gold Knight]

I'm the same way, Khal, with new books as opposed to used books. I think it's just a matter of feeling like I'm the "first owner" of a particular book, so it becomes more of a treasure in my mind. I still buy used books though, because I can't always afford to get new books.

[Galth]

I want to be the first and only owner of books. It's not just a rather severe dislike of second-hands, I never get rid of any of 'em either. They're my babies. <3

But then again, I've always liked books... as objects. They're almost sacred, and I have noticed in the past that I could be down for days if ever one of my books got damaged in one way or another. Such a silly thing!


RANDOM:
I think one of my happiest memories from 2007, for example, was to be able to work with books (well, I doubt they even deserve being put in the same categorie, there should be a different word for marvels such as these, they were HUGE) from the early 19th century (and with early I mean the first decennium of the aforementioned century, heh). Handwritten on yellowish, curly parchment, comparable in size with five modern atlasses put on top of eachother, not even that! One of them was even more fun, 't was a book, almost falling apart, of around 40x30 cm in height/width, and equally thick! Just imagine, that's like... dude! Ahahaha, I wish we could've made pictures of those babies... Hmmm~

... This has no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand, has it? >_>;

[Gold Knight]

Yeah, completely different thing. You like fresh books, you like ancient books. Make up your mind :oh

Actually I can relate to you a bit there though, I had to work with old parchments as well in the law library at my college (not for law though >.>) and it was a novel experience. I wouldn't mind being a librarian.

[kaylee]

Strange, I've always loved used books and used book stores, but I have no idea why. It's not solely about the price. Going through stacks of old books feels like treasure hunting, and I love feeling that there's some history behind a book (even if it's only 20-30 years) -- that someone else has read and enjoyed(?) the book before me. Or read and discarded it. I love my books though -- I protect them, I treasure them, and I can't stand it when someone dogears a page or breaks the spine or throws it carelessly into a bag. (Am I obsessive? >_>;; )

And old paper has such a great smell -- much better than the "factory fresh" books, although that's awesome as well. I'd say probably 90% of my library is second-hand. Maybe it's a guy thing to want to possess something "fresh" and "unblemished"...?


And those huge, 19th century books just sound awesome. I wish I could see one (handle one?) in real life... I've only seen pictures.

Humm, as a side note... I just checked Amazon. Apparently the price of TRC and xxxHolic here is $8.75/volume... I would've expected higher though, given the price in euros. Still, incredibly expensive. :darn

[Gold Knight]

Yeah, I'd probably have bought more TRC and xxxHolic books if not for that. I do have the first volumes of both, but that's it for now :/

[LadyHatake]

My dear. Just because it's the only one you've read doesn't make it the best one of the bunch. That's narutard logic.

:< You're a terrible, terrible person and I hope you know that :< I only said "TRC because it's the only one I read" beause that's the only one I know and have an opinion on :<

Edit: and I have read some of xxxholic, just not all of it.

[kaylee]

beause that's the only one I know and have an opinion on :<


But... Katy, you've read Vampire Knight too. Right? (and you should read Nana!)

[LadyHatake]

VK was an option? >.> That changes everything then.


I tried reading NANA. It was...meh. Kinda confusing.

[Gold Knight]

Confusing? XD

[baboysai]

I have a strange disease which can be described as either "a very strong dislike of 'used' books" or "a fetish for fresh, unopened books" (with that lovely factory smell~ <3) or both. Probably both. I'll never, never buy a second-hand book if I can help it.

Me too.

But "inherited" books are okay for me too, since my mom reads a lot (not manga though :XD). And recently she gave me a withering piece of book that's all torn on the edges like it was exhumed from 2000 BC :p My grandfather owned it. And when I read it i just felt the years of wisdom. yeah.



I guess it'll be Vampire Knight + those three Tsubasa volumes then... I'm planning to buy 'em all in the end, but well, the income of a highschool student without job isn't all that spectacular, y'see? That's be another rhyme on the Song of Later.

well that's a good choice too, Khal. Considering your reasons stated.

And that's not income at all! :yelling It's the same thing as mine, called "living off parents" :oh



I tried reading NANA. It was...meh. Kinda confusing.

You should give it another try, LH.

Speaking of Nana, I reread it again last night (after finishing gantz), and for the nth time fell off my chair coz Takumi's gaze just kills me. :love

[Galth]

Humm, as a side note... I just checked Amazon. Apparently the price of TRC and xxxHolic here is $8.75/volume... I would've expected higher though, given the price in euros. Still, incredibly expensive. :darn

The price in euro is obviously higher because I have to import 'em. :oh
6.50 for a normal viz weekly shounen, those're the cheapest ones around.
[hr]

:< You're a terrible, terrible person and I hope you know that :< I only said "TRC because it's the only one I read" beause that's the only one I know and have an opinion on :<

If you've only read that one you shouldn't have said anything instead of voted tsubasa though. :oh
[hr]

And that's not income at all! :yelling It's the same thing as mine, called "living off parents" :oh

Yeah well, I get parents and government subsidies to keep me alive, that's still income. Since it, like, is money, and makes its way to me. :oh
[hr]

I tried reading NANA. It was...meh. Kinda confusing.

Can't possibly have been more confusing than Tsubasa (or Vampire Knight for that matter), even to you. :oh

[LadyHatake]

Yeah, but it just like, stopped in places and moved on to another scene, and I was like, wtf? So I stopped reading.

[Gold Knight]

So you only read the first volume?

The first volume introduces two different characters with their own situations. They meet up in the second volume and it's a fairly linear storyline from then on.

I remember buying the first volume and being similarly perplexed as well, thought it was just an anthology of one-shots. But I liked both their stories. Then I saw that the second volume had them meeting, and I was like, now it makes sense.

[Schwindelmagier]

I have a strange disease which can be described as either "a very strong dislike of 'used' books" or "a fetish for fresh, unopened books" (with that lovely factory smell~ <3) or both. Probably both. I'll never, never buy a second-hand book if I can help it.

I exactly feel the same. I would never buy second-handed books. Oh, the smell of new, fresh manga is god-like. That's why my manga are in a cupboard. Open the cupboard and smell fresh manga.



RANDOM:
I think one of my happiest memories from 2007, for example, was to be able to work with books (well, I doubt they even deserve being put in the same categorie, there should be a different word for marvels such as these, they were HUGE) from the early 19th century (and with early I mean the first decennium of the aforementioned century, heh). Handwritten on yellowish, curly parchment, comparable in size with five modern atlasses put on top of eachother, not even that! One of them was even more fun, 't was a book, almost falling apart, of around 40x30 cm in height/width, and equally thick! Just imagine, that's like... dude! Ahahaha, I wish we could've made pictures of those babies... Hmmm~

... This has no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand, has it? >_>;
I love old books. <3
Just not old manga.

[Predator]

I exactly feel the same. I would never buy second-handed books. Oh, the smell of new, fresh manga is god-like. That's why my manga are in a cupboard. Open the cupboard and smell fresh manga.

Well ..... "Used" books and "Antique" books are two different things. It doesn't matter, if the book is fresh or used, as long as it has some content value.
I mean, when you find an old novel book printed in the gothic script, you just don't care about the previous owners. You just have fun reading it and then putting it in the display shelf.

[kaylee]

How is Fai's name pronounced in the TRC anime?

Are the TRC and xxxHolic animes worth watching?

[Gold Knight]

Man, Khal, I just read the first page of this thread. What a blast of nostalgia. :p

And you spelled Preddy's name wrong. Har. Take that, Kahuldh :grin

[Galth]

Fay's name is obviously pronounced just like it's written in japanese: fai. You should by now be familiar enough with japanese to know how that sounds. :oh


Are the TRC and xxxHolic animes worth watching?

Tsubasa Chronicle - the 52-episode tv series that chronicles the manga storyline up to and including the Rekord Country Arc - a definite no.

Gekijōban Tsubasa Chronicle ~Torikago No Kuni No Himegimi~ - the non-manga-related movie (if you can call a 35-minute piece a movie) - a definite no.

Tsubasa ~Tokyo Revelations~ - the ongoing 3-episode ova series that chronicles the Acid Tokyo Arc - a definite yes.

×××HOLiC - the 24-episode tv series that chronicles some of the early volumes - a definite yes.

Gekijōban ×××HOLiC ~Manatsu No Yoru No Yume~ - the non-manga-related movie - a very, very, definite yes. One of the best animated movies I've ever seen.

edit/

By the way, since the series' are produced by different studios, the crossovers have been mostly removed. Except from the movies, which are both done by Production I.G, don't we love them. <3

That's probably the only reason why anyone'd want to watch the horrible tsubasa movie, because it crossed over with the xxxHOLiC one... (well, that, and a certain Kurogane + Fai fighting scene, kukuku~). If you ever plan on watching both of them, though, watch the HOLiC one first. Not just because it's infinitely more awesome, but also because it's more fun with the crossover that way.

×××HOLiC ~Tsugi~ - the upcoming second season, scheduled for April '08 - a definite yes.
[hr]

And you spelled Preddy's name wrong. Har. Take that, Kahuldh :grin

I was young, Pihl. Don't hold it against me. :oh

[Gold Knight]

You are still young.

[Galth]

Naturally, but that's beside the point.

[Gold Knight]

Well, since you used your youth as an excuse, it actually isn't besides the point :grin

And surely, Khal, you're educated enough to be able to spell a four-letter name correctly? :o

[Galth]

Hardly. I'm decisively uneducated.

I didn't finish my high school yet, and therefore have no pieces of paper to prove that 'I R not st00pid.' So, until concluding proof is obtained, we'll assume the opposite to be the case.

Th4t'5 th3 th30ry, 4nyw4yz.

[Gold Knight]

Dude, if you were a Gantz ball, I'd be seriously freaked. :p

[Galth]

>.>

<.<

There're a lot of things you don't know about me yet...



B4ld d00d.

0 pts

t00 much h41r lo55.
t00 much l4z1ng 4r0und w1th0ut 4dm1nn1ng.

[Schwindelmagier]

I thought the xxxHolic anime was scheduled for april 7.

[Galth]

Indeed. Like I said.

"April 7th" is just one of the many days in "April '08."

I'll explain it for you, my dear, but the apostrophe (the little flying comma, you know, that's what it's called) before the zero in this case stands for '20.' If you combine that knowledge with what was written, you'd get "April 2008." Most people would know this without me telling them. :oh

[Gold Knight]

Eh, too much sarcasm can get you in trouble Khal-boy :p

[Schwindelmagier]

Ah, I missed the '.
I know that there is a ' in front of the years. '06, '07.
Maybe I should clean my glasses. Sorry.

[Galth]

Eh, too much sarcasm can get you in trouble Khal-boy :p

No, there's no such thing as too much sarcasm. But it has to be done properly, mine wasn't funny. I need to take more tsukkomi classes...

[kaylee]

Fay's name is obviously pronounced just like it's written in japanese: fai. You should by now be familiar enough with japanese to know how that sounds. :oh


Yes, of course I know how "Fai" is pronouced, but the problem came from the alternate spellings and me not knowing which one was official. But I already got the history lesson in my thread, so...

...the official spelling is Fay, but the official pronunciation is Fai? That makes no sense to me. I'll just keep calling him Fai. :amuse

And thanks for the anime recommendations. I knew I could count on you for that. <3
I guess I have a bit more to catch up on before April.
[hr]

No, there's no such thing as too much sarcasm.

QFT.
[hr]




2. What's your favorite manga?

Well, that's just gotta be naruto! When i first started reading DeathNote it came pretty close, but the chapter right after... ...L died..., where not quite as good as before that, though it is getting interesting those latest few chapters again :)


:rofl

Sorry. That just cracked me up. I never would've guessed that you had written that post. But I guess you're only human after all, and your opinions are allowed to do a complete 180. Were you originally modded for Naruto? What was the first manga to replace Naruto as your favorite? What's your favorite manga now?

[Galth]

Sorry. That just cracked me up. I never would've guessed that you had written that post. But I guess you're only human after all, and your opinions are allowed to do a complete 180. Were you originally modded for Naruto? What was the first manga to replace Naruto as your favorite? What's your favorite manga now?

Yes, you've dug up my dark past. I'm sorry, you'll have to die now. :oh




But, to at least save my reputation a little bit, I can answer your questions truthfully:

- Naruto was my first ever manga.

- When I wrote that, I read only two (2) manga series, and Death Note was still ongoing at the time, and was in what's universally accepted as the weakest point in the series altogether, the chapters right after L's death (ten chapters afterwards or so, if I recall correctly). As I wrote there, the series was packing up again, and from that point on, returned to being Epic.

- The first manga to replace Naruto as my favourite was Death Note, the second manga I ever read, and not too long after I posted that.

- My current favourite manga, as you probably know already, is Togashi Yoshihiro's Hunter x Hunter, with Eiichirou Oda's One Piece a close second, and at quite some distance from that comes Arakawa Hiromu's Fullmetal Alchemist as a nice third. Yes, all shounen, kill me. (Honorary mention goes to Iwahara Yuuji's King Of Thorn -- but until the last two volumes are availlable to me in english, I don't have the guts to put it in the top three yet, still, Iwahara-sensei is probably my favourite mangaka).

- I've said it once, I've said it twice, and I'll say it again: Narutards usually believe Naruto to be awesome, and coincidently, they often happen to have read only one or two series. I was no exception. I've noticed that usually, the more series somebody has read, the lower his or her opinion on Naruto will become. This is just a (biased) observation by yours truly.


... Actually, screw my reputation:

- I actually own a score of Naruto volumes by Viz.
- I still keep up with the Naruto manga every week.
- I still watch the Naruto Shippuuden anime every week. (I dropped the original series after episode 50 though, since the horribility of their version of the Chuunin Exams just nearly sent me to the hospital, and that's the only anime series I've ever dropped... Yes, I still watch Rosario + Vampire :p)

[xi0]

- I've said it once, I've said it twice, and I'll say it again: Narutards usually believe Naruto to be awesome, and coincidently, they often happen to have read only one or two series. I was no exception. I've noticed that usually, the more series somebody has read, the lower his or her opinion on Naruto will become. This is just a (biased) observation by yours truly.

Very true, but I'm not afraid to say that I like Naruto...Just not as much as a dozen or so other series that I find to be better.

[Galth]

As a good scientist ought to, I prefer to overlook exceptions to the rule, no matter how numerous they might be.

Cogito Ergo Sum! I hereby refuse to believe you exist, kusiyo-niisan, until I've seen proof!

So, now only I am left in this world, and after observing myself, I hereby deduce that my theory is correct in 100% of the proven cases. :oh



Any serious reply to this post will be officially labelled a Waste Of Time (tm).

[kaylee]

Yes, you've dug up my dark past. I'm sorry, you'll have to die now. :oh


:wtf



- I've said it once, I've said it twice, and I'll say it again: Narutards usually believe Naruto to be awesome, and coincidently, they often happen to have read only one or two series. I was no exception. I've noticed that usually, the more series somebody has read, the lower his or her opinion on Naruto will become. This is just a (biased) observation by yours truly.


Yes, I'm quite familiar with your opinion on this subject. :amuse But I've read quite a few manga now, and overall I still think Naruto's my favorite. I can see why many people don't like it though, and I'm not conceited enough to argue that it's the best manga ever, but it's still the one I enjoy reading the most.

I'm sure it's the trend that Naruto drops lower on most favorites lists as people absorb new manga though (how could it not drop, if they've only read one?), but you could say the same thing about anything in the world that has a popular "entry point."


Yes, I still watch Rosario + Vampire :p)

WHY?? I thought the whole point of watching it was so that you could claim that you've "never dropped" an anime series?

[xi0]

As a good scientist ought to, I prefer to overlook exceptions to the rule, no matter how numerous they might be.

Cogito Ergo Sum! I hereby refuse to believe you exist, kusiyo-niisan, until I've seen proof!

So, now only I am left in this world, and after observing myself, I hereby deduce that my theory is correct in 100% of the proven cases. :oh



Any serious reply to this post will be officially labelled a Waste Of Time (tm).

You have seen proof...the frightening, beleaguering proof. :oh

And yes...wasting time is my specialty.

[kaylee]

You have seen proof...the frightening, beleaguering proof. :oh


How do you know that wasn't just a figment of his (or my?) imagination(s)? :oh

(Hooray for solipsism!)

[xi0]

How do you know that wasn't just a figment of his (or my?) imagination(s)? :oh

(Hooray for solipsism!)

solipsism?

Christ, now you two are starting to sound like Sai...

[Galth]

WHY?? I thought the whole point of watching it was so that you could claim that you've "never dropped" an anime series?

Up until recently, I still planned to eventually watch the rest of the Naruto anime. That was when I said that to you.

Now I just watch it for, erm... well... the ending, and a certain character. xD
[hr]

Christ, now you two are starting to sound like Sai...

Starting? I often have similar views as Sai-kun, you only just now noticed? >_>

[Gold Knight]

No, there's no such thing as too much sarcasm. But it has to be done properly, mine wasn't funny.

Whatever the case, I could tell you were making a lot of people feel pretty stupid lately, so yeah, be a little more funny. :oh

[xi0]

Starting? I often have similar views as Sai-kun, you only just now noticed? >_>

Sorry, I wasn't done making my Sai vs. Khal Venn Diagram :rolleyes

How's that for sarcasm? :imslow

[Galth]

Ch! I'm being criticised!

Anyway, my mood and attitude are easily influenced by outside factors, usually series I read/watch, people I hang out with, stuff like that.

Anyway, it'll all be over soon, bear with it. :oh




Anyway, to all the people who read this thread (which I suppose would make, erm... six, seven people these days?):

If there was one (1) series you wanted me to read or watch, which one would it be? Just what you consider a "come on, you just NEED to know that one, it's just too awesome or classic or whatever or blah."

[Predator]

As a good scientist ought to,[..]

:blink ...... O ...... K .......


Any serious reply to this post will be officially labelled a Waste Of Time (tm).

Then how about this - I wrote the post with serious thought in mind, but the post as a whole came out to be very un-serious. Does this count as WOT or not?

[Galth]

Then how about this - I wrote the post with serious thought in mind, but the post as a whole came out to be very un-serious. Does this count as WOT or not?

1 / What was the goal in mind?
2 / Would you reach said goal if you posted said post?

The answer to 2 would be the answer to "was it a waste of time to write the post."

So yeah, it was.



Not that I really care, there's no such thing as not wasting time, in my opinion... I regard life itself as just a random amount of time which you need to sit out, waiting to see if anything happens (spoiler: the answer is "no"), and while you're at it, you might as well try to do something that amuses you. >_>
[hr]
On second thought, a better answer would be:


Does this count as WOT or not?

LOLWUT?

[Gold Knight]

I think you've already tried everything I also read Khal... we're basically influenced by the same group of people >.> And for whatever reason, you've found more time in the past two years to read more series than I have... (I think).

In fact, I've been influenced to finally read Claymore, which I remember was not too long ago one of the series you most liked, and I must admit, it's better than I thought it would be.

One of these days I might try Hunter x Hunter as well.

[Galth]

In fact, I've been influenced to finally read Claymore, which I remember was not too long ago one of the series you most liked, and I must admit, it's better than I thought it would be.

I never said it was a good series. In fact, I think it's a very bad series. But for some unexplained reason it's just a highly amusing read. When reading Claymore, I'm a happier panda than when reading most 'better' series.

Still, I'd never dare to put it up high in my list of 'favourites.'
[hr]

One of these days I might try Hunter x Hunter as well.

I hereby predict you won't like it.

Just a feeling though, no real reason. You're just one of those people where I've never been able to judge the taste of.

[Gold Knight]

Ah... you gave me the wrong impression then. >.> Still, I'm liking it at the moment (granted I've only read the first three volumes so far.)

[Galth]

I think you've already tried everything I also read Khal...

Oh, I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. You could've just said "Vagabond!" or "RuroKen!" or "BotI!" or whatever. Heck, yesterday you could've said "Gantz!" (Yes, I started -- and caught up -- this morning)

[Gold Knight]

That explains the Gantz references (I was surprised you had read it, but wasn't sure how long ago you had read it.) Do you like it?

And yeah, Vagabond... I don't think you would like it (got a feeling) :XD And I know you already dislike Rurouni Kenshin for some reason... and BotI, hmm, you could give that one a try. But I have no idea if you'd like it or not.

I suppose I can't really judge your tastes either :amuse

[Galth]

Ah... you gave me the wrong impression then. >.> Still, I'm liking it at the moment (granted I've only read the first three volumes so far.)

What? Only three volumes? Ch!

Just you wait until the good (and with good, I mean bloody, of course) stuff comes then. The War In The North. The Siege Of Pièta. <3

[Gold Knight]

Don't worry, at this pace I'll catch up in no time flat (I started a couple of hours ago).

[kaylee]

If there was one (1) series you wanted me to read or watch, which one would it be? Just what you consider a "come on, you just NEED to know that one, it's just too awesome or classic or whatever or blah."

I was going to say that you've probably read everything I've ever read, but... you haven't read Vagabond? I guess GK's right, you probably wouldn't like it, although I find it very hard to predict your tastes for anything. (GK's tastes, on the other hand -- quite easy). But imho, it's worth reading for the gorgeous art alone.

You should just go back to Kenshin though. You stopped right where it starts to get good!! Just read through the Kyoto arc. It won't take you that long, especially if you caught up on Gantz in one morning.

[Galth]

That explains the Gantz references (I was surprised you had read it, but wasn't sure how long you had read it.) Do you like it?


I never said it was a good series. In fact, I think it's a very bad series. But for some unexplained reason it's just a highly amusing read. When reading Claymore, I'm a happier panda than when reading most 'better' series.

Replace Claymore with Gantz and you have my answer.

The art is... well, the human characters are decent at best, the extravagant double-spreads with huge monsters and such are quite entertaining though.

The characters in the series are just plain bad and highly unrealistic. Come on, if you really look at it, Katou is so one-dimensional that it's almost boring. Actually, every character in the series so far has been one-dimensional. Well, in personality, of course. Don't go making lame puns about multi-dimensional warps and stuff, that's normally my job, not yours.

The story itself, if present (cause for some reason I don't expect Oku-sensei to ever really reveal what the hell the Gantz' are or how and why the hell everybody gets warped from one place to another to shoot stuff) is just full of interesting, but simple, techniques to deus-ex-machina everybody into a situation where they can either die bloodily, almost die bloodily, or be insanely badass, without it posing any trouble in later part of the story (since it resets itself anyway).

Oku just decides he wants to draw certain scenes, then uses some clever trick that doesn't need him to explain 'why' it happened, just so he gets his characters into the situation he needs to make 'em look the way he wants them to (either BadAss, naked or chopped up, usually the last).

There's just so much wrong with this series that I really don't know how it ever got so popular, but... meh...

It's just hella amusing! Me likey! :rofl

Oh, and Izumi is my soul-mate. He was introduced with "Oh, so you're 187cm?" and I looked at his hair and thought something like "Heh, we already have two things in common, kid." And then he turned out to be a pretty kickass bastard, so yeah, he gets my vote in the next presidential campaign. (Also, we have a few bad character traits in common, but I don't feel like elaborating -- gotta uphold my image here, y'know? ....... and with that I mean that as long as I don't specify, it sounds worse than it is, hehehe~)

(actually, my favourite 'character' ought to be the Tokyo Gantz itself, that thing cracks me up, he nearly killed me at 't00 much b0n3r fr0m l00k1ng 4t t1tz.' :rofl)



And yeah, Vagabond... I don't think you would like it (got a feeling) :XD And I know you already dislike Rurouni Kenshin for some reason... and BotI, hmm, you could give that one a try. But I have no idea if you'd like it or not.

I don't dislike RuroKen per se, I just dislike almost all the main characters. Actually, I think that Saitou guy is the first character so far that I liked. (Only read the first sixty chapters after all...). Oh, and Yahiko (is that his name? The annoying crybaby brat) is the second character - in any manga - that I just truly can't stand. For the record, I do plan to finish that series... eventually...

As for Blade of the Immortal, I once read the first erm... volume or so, then got bored. Art is probably great and all, but wasn't really my style.

As for Vagabond, I don't even know what it's about, what the art looks like, or... well, I don't even know a single character, heh. Gotta be grateful that Zinny-kun doesn't read this thread, he'd hate me. (No wait, he probably couldn't care less...)
[hr]

I was going to say that you've probably read everything I've ever read, but...

You guys make these assumptions way too easy. Just shoot and see if you accidently hit.
[hr]

Don't worry, at this pace I'll catch up in no time flat (I started a couple of hours ago).

b4ld d00d

3 pts

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[Gold Knight]

I think you've mainly pointed out the reasons why I don't consider Gantz a favorite either, so at least we agree there - I'm able to still enjoy it for the dramatic scenes of course... but it's almost alike watching ants in a formicarium. You observe, you just have to chuckle at some of the things they do. I think it's a study of particular, very specific personalities (yes, one-dimensional, but still entertaining) faced with horrible situations. You have a Nishi, the sneaky little bastard who would prefer to attack from the shadows, a Katou, a "good guy," a Izumi, who is a pretty much cold-blooded bastard for the most part. (I wouldn't think of you as bad as Izumi, BTW... would you commit mass murder just to get back into a senseless violent dimension? >.> ) But Kei definitely has had the most character development. I hated the punk at first, then he grew on me... and before I knew it, he was an admirable guy and I liked him just fine.

Saito is a great character, I agree. He's definitely my second favorite after Kenshin. (Though maybe I like Shishou just as much...) - well, the thing that I think ruins your enjoyment of RK is if you don't like Kenshin at all, which to be honest, I can't really fathom at all >.>;;;

BotI, you might want to give that a chance after hearing what you just said about Gantz, because I definitely consider BotI as being better than Gantz and it has enough serious, realistic shit (excuse my French... oh wait, that's not French, sorry Xophy) to keep you happy.

And no, Zinny wouldn't care. Heh.

[Galth]

But Kei definitely has had the most character development. I hated the punk at first, then he grew on me... and before I knew it, he was an admirable guy and I liked him just fine.

I liked him when he was still a punk, but yeah, Kei is the only one I consider a "character" in that series. The rest are just... robots with only one personality trait, hahaha~

I think Oku liked the punk Kei better as well, 'cause he obviously got bored of him when he turned, erm, 'good', and decided to use his magic pencil to draw a big gaping wound in his chest. :nod

Hey, Phil, when you read volume eight (you know, the one with the, erm, deaths), did you also think something like:

Where berserk did berserk I berserk see berserk this berserk before?
[hr]

but it's almost alike watching ants in a formicarium. You observe, you just have to chuckle at some of the things they do. I think it's a study of particular, very specific personalities (yes, one-dimensional, but still entertaining) faced with horrible situations.

It isn't a study unless they're realistic characters. Or well, you don't need realistic, but at least more realistic than these are.

But well, I say all that, but let me repeat once more, I really enjoyed myself reading this. Hahaha~ xD

[Gold Knight]

Well, Kei still has a little bit of his previous "bad boy" personality, it shows up every now and then, but yeah, he's turned into a boring, good boy for the most part. Maybe, like you said, yeah, that's why the mangaka killed him off, heh... But now I'm curious to see what exactly Oku is going to do with Katou. I'm a bit nervous because I'm expecting Katou to regress, a reverse scenario of what happened to Kei.

And ha! In Gantz's case, though, unlike Berserk, it was one mo'fo wrecking hell, and quite a scary one at that (I still get chills every time I see him regenerating) so it was pretty cool on its own merits.
[hr]



It isn't a study unless they're realistic characters. Or well, you don't need realistic, but at least more realistic than these are.

I dunno, It kinda reminded me of Survivor the show, if you've ever seen it. The TV only shows certain "angles" of the participants' personalities, so we get the impression of them all being kinda one-dimensional but at the same time, we see whether this guy who might seem like a good guy would backstab somebody else, etc. It might be a flawed study, but still a study.

Glad you enjoyed Gantz though. And yeah, I'll take your advice now and return to Claymore <3

[Galth]

And ha! In Gantz's case, though, unlike Berserk, it was one mo'fo wrecking hell, and quite a scary one at all (I still get chills every time I see him regenerating) so it was pretty cool on its own merits.

Until the very last moment, I thought Katou was gonna make it. Damn. That scene was indeed really intense. Hah!

And they had a lot of build-up around the three girls in that arc, hinting at what might come, or around certain new characters, and suddenly BAM! One after another! Hahahaha.

... Well, call me a 2D sadist, but you know I like character death. xD


And well, Gantz is just Oku drawing scenes he wants to draw. Whenever he feels horny, he writes Kei and whoever happens to be nearby into a bed. Whenever he feels sadistic, heads fly. I support this.

[xi0]

Realistic Characters.......that's a conflicting term as it is.

Huge character development for Gantz? Obviously not...but since when is a manga full of "realistic characters"? Especially when something is SOOOO non-realistic and post-modern, in a series like Gantz.

Gantz rules, for many of the reasons you mentioned, but I still see it as an Allegory of Life. A wide-range of characters put in insanely stressful situations...and you see how they react. Plus it looks sexy too. :nod

[death4578]

You guys make these assumptions way too easy. Just shoot and see if you accidently hit.




Can i try ? :p
Zetman, Ubel Blatt, Until Death Do Us Part ?

[baboysai]

And yeah, Vagabond... I don't think you would like it (got a feeling)

Why would Khal *not* like Vagabond? Like Kay-chan says, the art is GGGGGodlike! :laser And come to think of it, a lot of the panels are really funny (and this is funny because they're juxtaposed with bloody panels).



Oh, and Izumi is my soul-mate.

:blink

oh yeah! You look the same!


(actually, my favourite 'character' ought to be the Tokyo Gantz itself, that thing cracks me up, he nearly killed me at 't00 much b0n3r fr0m l00k1ng 4t t1tz.' :rofl)

yes, that machine (or the man in tubes??? :o) has some attitude. He calls people names and make snide comments. kehehe.


Actually, I think that Saitou guy is the first character so far that I liked. (Only read the first sixty chapters after all...).

me too. Saitou is actually my favorite character. The rest of the characters are very whiny. Especially Kaoru! But I still like RK though. :p
[hr]
Have you read 20CB, khal? how bout that?

[Galth]

If there was one (1) series you wanted me to read or watch, which one would it be?

Zetman, Ubel Blatt and UDDUP make three (3). Pick one, death, should I read Zetman (and if so, which one? The new one? There's two zetman series, right?) or Ubel Blatt?
[hr]

Have you read 20CB, khal? how bout that?

As a matter of fact, I didn't.
*writes down 20th Century Boys*

[baboysai]

As a matter of fact, I didn't.
*writes down 20th Century Boys*

Then maybe you should try that. :p

[death4578]

Zetman, Ubel Blatt and UDDUP make three (3). Pick one, death, should I read Zetman (and if so, which one? The new one? There's two zetman series, right?) or Ubel Blatt?


Erm, i don't know how to count, isn't 3 = 1 ? ><
I would say definietely Zetman, the new one, Ubel Blatt is quite good, but i still prefer Zetman <3

[Galth]

Alright, then that's next after 20CB on the to-do-list~

[xi0]

There's only one Zetman series. The original was just a oneshot IIRC, and it was VERY different from the series.

[Schwindelmagier]

*pops up*
*hugs*

*...and disappears again*
^______________________^

You still wanna have the green dango?

[kaylee]

New avy! Total win. :kkthumbs

[baboysai]

Alright, then that's next after 20CB on the to-do-list~

is there a prize for making the number 1? :wtf like... pigtails?

[Galth]

You still wanna have the green dango?

I do. But it's getting more and more unlikely that I'll be able to attend J-Day... ;_____;
[hr]

New avy! Total win. :kkthumbs

I know. <3

[Xophien]

You will attend J-Day. Danchou's order! :yelling

[Galth]

is there a prize for making the number 1? :wtf like... pigtails?

No. :oh

[baboysai]

No. :oh

:o

Rejected!

*goes to a corner, assumes fetal position*

[Galth]

You will attend J-Day. Danchou's order! :yelling

Ch! You tell that to the National Exams' Committee.

[Xophien]

Sure. Give me their mail address :oh

[Luckas]

As manga suggestion: Monster by Naoki Urasawa.

[Galth]

Sure. Give me their mail address :oh

I don't have it.

But since you seem to have some free time (since you're posting again...?), can you make me a new sig, danchou? <3

[ibra87]

When is J-day? I might be able to attend if it's after my exams :nuts

Nvm, found out.

[Xophien]

But since you seem to have some free time (since you're posting again...?), can you make me a new sig, danchou? <3

I don't have free time >.> But I can make some for my dangos :oh

[kaylee]

But since you seem to have some free time (since you're posting again...?), can you make me a new sig, danchou? <3

Does that mean you're getting rid of your current one? :oh

Danchou, make it quickly!!

[Predator]

[..] it's getting more and more unlikely that I'll be able to attend J-Day... ;_____;

:blink ..... WTF? ....
You of all people to say such a thing. And what are those crocodile tears?

Just get some random smart guy to attend the exam for you.

...... What subject is it anyway? Can't you just postphone it? Like - buy doctors note about sickness on that day? :kukuku

[Galth]

They're my final exams, Preddi. All my courses (which is probably around a dozen?) within five days time.
They make fifty percent of my total high school grades for graduation.

[Imperium]

Are you studying for them? Or are you just gonna cross your fingers, on the day? :D

[Galth]

Are you studying for them? Or are you just gonna cross your fingers, on the day? :D

Obviously the latter. :nod

[Gold Knight]

Hmm.. your sig did make me curious Khal. What is your ava/sig from?

[Schwindelmagier]

I do. But it's getting more and more unlikely that I'll be able to attend J-Day... ;_____;

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Galth]

Hmm.. your sig did make me curious Khal. What is your ava/sig from?

... I'm in despair! The fact that there're still people who don't recognise it has left me in despair!!

...

...

Need I be any more obvious? >_>

[Schwindelmagier]

I love your new siggi. It's so funny :rofl

[Gold Knight]

... I'm in despair! The fact that there're still people who don't recognise it has left me in despair!!

...

...

Need I be any more obvious? >_>

Sorry, still have no idea.

[Galth]

I love your new siggi. It's so funny :rofl

Tell danchou, he made it. <3

[Imperium]

Sorry, still have no idea.
SZS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara_zetsubo_sensei)

[Gold Knight]

Relatively new manga eh? Thank God, now I know why everybody's saying "I'm in despair." That was irritating me >.>

[Galth]

Relatively new? It started in 2005 and already won the Kodansha last year, and it's in the middle of a second anime series, so I wouldn't call it "new" anymore. >_>;

[Gold Knight]

Wiki said 2007, hmm. EDIT: I was looking at when it won the award, sorry.

Well, it's still relatively new compared to most of the manga I've been reading. Naruto started in 2000 after all. Berserk's even older than that by far... But yeah, this is actually the first I've heard about it.

[Galth]

That's the anime, not the manga. Re-check wiki and then go buy glasses.

[Schwindelmagier]

I have a horrible bruise on my elbow. >_>

[Galth]

And I have a bleeding toe.

[Schwindelmagier]

Uh, bleeding toes are mean. I once rammed a garbage bin against my toe. The toenail clapped upwards and well, I had a nice bruise under my toenail for weeks. But this is nothing compared to the bruises I got under my toenails after Japan Day 06. Walking hours and hours through Duesseldorf with such shoes is not good for feet that are not used to walk in such high shoes. The bruises under my toenails finally disappeared after more than a year. >_>

[Galth]

Mine's a bit more icky. I've an ingrown toenail. Last time I went to the doc with it (third hospital visit in my life...) was a pretty bloody and gory procedure, but after a few months the complaints were there again, despite me having had to walk around with quite some pain.

(I've never been afraid of needles until then, when he explained how he had no choice but to poke 'em right into muscle-tissue a few times, and damn, that hurts so much more than normal needlestings... ch!)

Anyway, my toe's been bleeding every day for the past two years. :oh

Not like you care, but I'm just mirroring your posts. :oh

[Gold Knight]

That's the anime, not the manga. Re-check wiki and then go buy glasses.

I am wearing glasses at the moment actually.

2007 just jumped out in the first paragraph. 2005 was nowhere. I didn't read much because I didn't want to be spoiled in case I should read it sometimes.

Anyway, it's still relatively new. In fact, your existence is relatively new to me. So oh well. :oh

[Imperium]

Mine's a bit more icky. I've an ingrown toenail. Last time I went to the doc with it (third hospital visit in my life...) was a pretty bloody and gory procedure, but after a few months the complaints were there again, despite me having had to walk around with quite some pain.

(I've never been afraid of needles until then, when he explained how he had no choice but to poke 'em right into muscle-tissue a few times, and damn, that hurts so much more than normal needlestings... ch!)

Anyway, my toe's been bleeding every day for the past two years. :oh
So your going to be in pain for the rest of your life? Meh, just cut of your toe. Momentary pain, life-long bliss ;)

[Schwindelmagier]

Woah, sounds like a lot of pain. >_<

[Galth]

So your going to be in pain for the rest of your life? Meh, just cut of your toe. Momentary pain, life-long bliss ;)

No, it's not painful most of the time, it's just bleeding, which can get very annoying when wearing white socks, so I stopped doing that. :oh

[baboysai]

Question:
how do you study when exam time is almost up? Do you cram, or are you good with time management and study bit by bit everyday? Or maybe you don't need to study at all and just show up for the exam and pass anyway?

question 2: I don't know where your avatar is from though. It's not from SZS, is it?

[Schwindelmagier]

His ava is from SZS. I think it was the cover for a SZS OST.

[Galth]

Or maybe you don't need to study at all and just show up for the exam and pass anyway?

That's how it usually works.


question 2: I don't know where your avatar is from though. It's not from SZS, is it?

Second [Zoku-] Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei second ending single, "Marionette" by 'ROLLY to Zetsubou Shoujo-tachi', cover.

Though the way Itoshiki is drawn reminds me of the first ending, rather...

[Xophien]

This thread lacks MikuMiku Randomness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffe7RbHJ0D8) :oh

[Galth]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/pimgeurts/2471-hatsune_miku.gif

[kaylee]

This thread lacks MikuMiku Randomness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffe7RbHJ0D8) :oh

Brilliant. :D That song actually works remarkably well with her voice.

[baboysai]

That's how it usually works.

Why can't I be like you Khal??

gak, I'm actually so stressed right now just thinking of the many requirements I have to finish! :shakefist

I have to finish writing my thesis book, study for an exam, prepare for a debate, organize club elections and activities, all due friday! :faint

[kaylee]

Don't stress over it, bb-chan. Shin-chan's only in high school, where it's easy to pass tests without studying at all (at least in mine it was). :amuse

[Schwindelmagier]

I can lay back. I don't have any tests left to study for until my holiday starts. Well... my holidays start in one week. ^___^;

[Galth]

high school, where it's easy to pass tests without studying at all

Kei-chan, you are right, and yet you aren't.

American schools - or so I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong - have on one 'degree' of difficulty, and everybody goes to the same school, be they complete idiots or genius kids.

Over here, there's three levels of high schools:

VMBO (four years, roughly ages 12~16, about 65% of the kids go here, usually looked down upon, despite it being the most common type of school)
HAVO (five years, 12~17, roughly 30% of the kids go here, you have a chance of making it into university after this, if you make up for the level of education you lack compared to VWO, but I'm not exactly sure how long the 'catch up' school is, or how difficult... But usually after this you go to... I suppose something that would correspond very roughly to what you call college...?)
VWO (six years, 12~18, top 5%, and even that's split again into two types, Atheneum and Gymnasium, but I won't bother you with the specifics -- a VWO diploma is enough to get you straight into university, if there's space left)

Naturally, I'm a Gymnasiast. Therefore you shouldn't expect our tests to be of the same level that you probably has to sleep your way through. (Though you'd find this VWO-thingie easy as well, since it's you, Kei-chan <333).




But yes, I s'pose highschools are incomparably easy and boring for those already attending or having attended university... I'm jealous of you guys, I'm eager to get out of this school. >_>

(Disclaimer: this doesn't mean I'm overly smart or anything, on the contrary, it's just that most kids my age are unable to apply logic in their thinking.)

[baboysai]

But yes, I s'pose highschools are incomparably easy and boring for those already attending or having attended university... I'm jealous of you guys, I'm eager to get out of this school. >_>

I told myself that before. Yada yada, I bet a lot of people say this.

But I never thought I'd experience it. Just two days ago I realized I'm so f*cking scared of applying in a firm, and the thought of bearing the corporate life for one year makes me sick. But I have to do that to save money for my rent, so my parents can continue to pay for my tuition since I plan to go to cooking school.

The real world scares me! Keep me here in MH, Khal! :s

[kaylee]

American schools - or so I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong - have on one 'degree' of difficulty, and everybody goes to the same school, be they complete idiots or genius kids.


Shin-chan, you are right, and yet you aren't. :amuse

It's true that American public schools are only segregated by region, not by degree of difficulty, so you normally have a broad mix in every high school. Yet within each high school, you have different levels of difficulty. For example, 3 english classes for every grade -- Normal, Honors, and AP (advanced placement).

AP classes aren't always available (depends on the high school you go to -- have to be lucky enough to live in an area with a good one), but they're college-level courses. At the end of a class, you take a national standardized test, and if you pass with a certain score, most colleges will accept the class for college credit.

So, you can't just say that American high school is a breeze to get through for everyone, just because they allow complete idiots into every school. :p

Although, to be honest, I much prefer your system, because I'd imagine that every VWO at least has the same rigorous standards, which is not the case in the US (here, some high schools offer tons of AP courses while others have none).

Needless to say, in high school I took the most difficult classes I could, and a couple others at the local college when I ran out, and yeah, breezed through. But I found college infinitely harder. Guess it depends what school you go to though. :amuse


Hmm, Shin-chan, how do universities work in the Netherlands? Are they government-run? Are there different "levels" like with your high school? Will you definitely be attending university in the Netherlands?

Any idea what you'll study yet?

[Galth]

Shin-chan, you are right, and yet you aren't. :amuse

It's true that American public schools are only segregated by region, not by degree of difficulty, so you normally have a broad mix in every high school. Yet within each high school, you have different levels of difficulty. For example, 3 english classes for every grade -- Normal, Honors, and AP (advanced placement).

AP classes aren't always available (depends on the high school you go to -- have to be lucky enough to live in an area with a good one), but they're college-level courses. At the end of a class, you take a national standardized test, and if you pass with a certain score, most colleges will accept the class for college credit.

So, you can't just say that American high school is a breeze to get through for everyone, just because they allow complete idiots into every school. :p

I was aware of that, and I still /can/ say that it's a breeze to get through for everyone, 'cause those extras aren't mandatory. People who take on extra classes of their own choice aren't allowed to sigh about them being difficult, ne? :amuse


Hmm, Shin-chan, how do universities work in the Netherlands? Are they government-run? Are there different "levels" like with your high school? Will you definitely be attending university in the Netherlands?

Any idea what you'll study yet?

Not government run. Actually, they're highly independant. Infinitely moreso than highschools and such. Levels... well, I always saw university as a level in itself. You can take - after high school - either MBO or HBO (two types of college, based on VMBO and HAVO and continuing them, or at least I think that's the general idea, though you can of course attend HBO if you've finished an MBO thingie blah) or university, which is the highest type. Something like that? I wouldn't know, I didn't really come into contact with it yet.

No, I've never even considered going to a foreign university. Why make it harder on myself (since I... think my dutch is still better than my english) when there's great and famous (Leiden/Leyden, Groningen, Rotterdam, etc) universities aplenty close to home? If there's one thing going to a high school in a different city tought me, it's that: further from home means more trouble, but almost no added bonusses. Ch!

Idea? Idea? Heh. 'Course not! I'm not a 'having ideas' type of person. I'll just choose a subject the old-fashioned way; that's right, the infamous dartboard, muhahaha~~!!

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(Obviously kidding about that last bit, but still: no, not the faintest... ~)
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The real world scares me! Keep me here in MH, Khal! :s

Yeah well, going out into the world isn't really something I look forward to either, but I said that I'd probably be more interested in uni than high school, ch~ And yeah, I've a mild *cough* case of Peter Pan syndrome as well, so yeah. Me and RealLife thing have never been compatible.

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Hmpf, need to finish some silly math assignment. I prefer homework over deadlined stuff, since the consequences of ignoring them are less severe, and you can often get away with it, ch~ I havn't done homework in erm... at least half a year, heh. Wheeee~

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Note to all that read this thread: Asian Kung-Fu Generation's fourth cd, 'World World World' is out, as of today. <333

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Ten more posts, people, keep your spamming up. Depending on how interesting those ten posts are, I'll decide whether to be happy about getting 1500 wasting their time here or get depressed about the loss of valuable time that could've been spent on reading manga or watching anime, and become so sad at that thought that I'll close it up!

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Just for fun, the infamous "Girl = Evil" solution:

Girl = Time x Money
"Time is money."
Girl = Money x Money
"Money is the root of all evil."
Girl = Evil.

[baboysai]

I prefer homework over deadlined stuff, since the consequences of ignoring them are less severe, and you can often get away with it, ch~ I havn't done homework in erm... at least half a year, heh. Wheeee~

Indeed. I get away with homeworks all the time.

Khal when you become a university student, don't become like me. I have not maximized what the university has to teach me because I'm spoiled, and get away with things because of my blinding charm. And that's why I believe I'm not fit to face the outside world with my mediocre skills in my chosen field. But I could just become a celebrity though. :oh



Just for fun, the infamous "Girl = Evil" solution:

Girl = Time x Money
"Time is money."
Girl = Money x Money
"Money is the root of all evil."
Girl = Evil.

of course. I wouldn't argue with you. I am eeeeevil! :kukuku

[kaylee]

I was aware of that, and I still /can/ say that it's a breeze to get through for everyone, 'cause those extras aren't mandatory. People who take on extra classes of their own choice aren't allowed to sigh about them being difficult, ne? :amuse


Those extras aren't mandatory in the same way that your VWO isn't mandatory... that is to say, they aren't enforced, but they are mandatory if you want to have a shot at getting into a decent college.

(Not that you care, but here there are many different levels of colleges. Almost anyone can get into some college, but to get into a good one, you have to show that you're willing to go above and beyond the normal high school requirements. Of course everyone knows this, so essentially those "optional" advanced classes have become mandatory for most people wanting to go to college. Either that, or they're forced by their parents to take them).



If there's one thing going to a high school in a different city tought me, it's that: further from home means more trouble, but almost no added bonusses. Ch!


Hmm? So most people there go to college while living at home? To me, one of the main benefits of college is the independence that comes with moving away from home. I'm not sure how you can say there are "no added bonuses" when you haven't tried it yet. :amuse


Me and RealLife thing have never been compatible.

I completely relate. I can't say I've found a solution yet though.... >_>;


Ten more posts, people, keep your spamming up. Depending on how interesting those ten posts are, I'll decide whether to be happy about getting 1500 wasting their time here or get depressed about the loss of valuable time that could've been spent on reading manga or watching anime, and become so sad at that thought that I'll close it up!


No sense getting depressed over time already "wasted." And you know if you close the thread you know you'll just spam elsewhere anyway. :amuse

(Although I sometimes wonder how much more manga I would've been able to read had I not spent so much time talking about it. But talking about it is part of the fun, no? And how else would you get other recommendations?)



Just for fun, the infamous "Girl = Evil" solution:


I can't fault the logic, but your initial assumption is fallacious. A better first argument would be:

Koibito = Time x Money

(just trying to make this thread more equal opportunity) :p

[Galth]

Hmm? So most people there go to college while living at home?

You're making the mistake of extrapolating 'my' view into the heads of my kinsmen. Also, you misread what I meant. With 'home' I meant 'the Netherlands', not 'the place where my parents live.' Actually, did I even use the word 'home'? o_O

"The others" are divided: there're some who realise that staying at home during your college years has infinitely more plusses than minusses, and there're some that want to be independant. I've no idea what the ratio is, but I do know that in recent years the first group is gaining ground.


Koibito = Time x Money

(just trying to make this thread more equal opportunity) :p

Well yeah, but that's a given. There're only two types of girls after all: Koibito / Unemployed. :oh

You'd be mostly 'time', since I have to wait so long for you to divorce your whatshisname, but alas, even so, there's also the 'There are no girls on the internet.' law, so I'll have to come to terms with the fact that you don't exist and are just a figment of my imagination. :oh





... Did your rotating signature always include a Light/L dream...? Never saw that before...

[kaylee]

You're making the mistake of extrapolating 'my' view into the heads of my kinsmen. Also, you misread what I meant. With 'home' I meant 'the Netherlands', not 'the place where my parents live.' Actually, did I even use the word 'home'? o_O

Well, you did say "If there's one thing going to a high school in a different city tought me, it's that: further from home means more trouble, but almost no added bonusses."

So I figured if you weren't planning to live at home, you'd at least be going to university in the same city. And yeah, I did extrapolate your views a bit, but only because living at home while going to college is just incredibly rare here (well, depending on the type of college I guess).

But I guess the US is weird because it's such a big country... I went to school 250 miles away from home, and that was considered "close."



"The others" are divided: there're some who realise that staying at home during your college years has infinitely more plusses than minusses [...]

Not trying to play devil's advocate, I'm genuinely curious -- what are the pluses to staying at home, other than being able to save money?



You'd be mostly 'time', since I have to wait so long for you to divorce your whatshisname, but alas, even so, there's also the 'There are no girls on the internet.' law, so I'll have to come to terms with the fact that you don't exist and are just a figment of my imagination. :oh

If I'm a figment of your imagination, shouldn't you be able to make me get divorced? :oh



... Did your rotating signature always include a Light/L dream...? Never saw that before...

Yep. Haven't changed it from the beginning. :amuse

[Galth]

Not trying to play devil's advocate, I'm genuinely curious -- what are the pluses to staying at home, other than being able to save money?

Apart from money, time and trouble, what else is there to save in this world? That encompasses about everything. Living at home means you get all the basic stuff a human being needs to live for free: food, a bed, company, security (as in: the safety of knowing your situation probably won't change unless you want it to), and whatnot.


If I'm a figment of your imagination, shouldn't you be able to make me get divorced? :oh

If you give me a plane ticket, I'm sure I could get that arranged in no time. :amuse

[kaylee]

Apart from money, time and trouble, what else is there to save in this world?

I don't see how living at home saves you time or trouble. At least in my case, it was the complete opposite. :amuse



[...]company, security (as in: the safety of knowing your situation probably won't change unless you want it to), and whatnot.


You have to leave the womb sometime. :p And college is the perfect training ground for that.



If you give me a plane ticket, I'm sure I could get that arranged in no time. :amuse

Why would you need a plane ticket if I'm just a figment of your imagination? :oh

Hmm, I guess even solipsists need to follow the rules of logic?

[Galth]

Why would you need a plane ticket if I'm just a figment of your imagination? :oh

Hmm, I guess even solipsists need to follow the rules of logic?

Solipsism means that you admit you cannot prove anything other than the fact that you exist. It doesn't mean that you have to assume that - apart from you yourself - nothing exists; quite the opposite. In practise, solipsism doesn't really change anything in your life, apart from the fact that you're a bit (or a lot) more sceptic about empirical evidence.

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And the Lucky Star PS2 Game theme song is too fucking awesome... Kei-chan, why didn't you download it yet?!! Do so, now, fukudanchou order! (Not that I myself have the authority to order the dango-tachi around, but I'm sure the danchou would support me in this particular case, kukuku. :3)

[kaylee]

Solipsism means that you admit you cannot prove anything other than the fact that you exist. It doesn't mean that you have to assume that - apart from you yourself - nothing exists; quite the opposite. In practise, solipsism doesn't really change anything in your life, apart from the fact that you're a bit (or a lot) more sceptic about empirical evidence.

I suppose it depends what type of solipsism you're talking about:



Metaphysical solipsism

Metaphysical solipsism is the variety of idealism which maintains that the individual self of the solipsistic philosopher is the whole of reality and that the external world and other persons are representations of that self having no independent existence (Wood, 295).

Epistemological solipsism

Epistemological solipsism is the variety of idealism according to which only the directly accessible mental contents of the solipsistic philosopher can be known. The existence of an external world is regarded as an unresolvable question, or an unnecessary hypothesis rather than actually false.

Methodological solipsism

Methodological solipsism is the epistemological thesis that the individual self and its states are the sole possible or proper starting point for philosophical construction (Wood, 295). The methodological solipsist does not intend to conclude that one of the stronger forms of solipsism is true, but rather believes that all other truths must be founded on indisputable facts about his own consciousness. A skeptical turn along these lines is cartesian skepticism.


I won't debate it with you though. My knowledge of solipsism is limited to wikipedia and Heinlein novels. :amuse



And the Lucky Star PS2 Game theme song is too fucking awesome... Kei-chan, why didn't you download it yet?!!

Er, well, that's because... um. No, I don't have an excuse. -_-;

Ok, downloading it now.

Thanks for the heads up. <3
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Yay, finished downloading!! :nuts

Both songs are pure love. Although, after first listen, I have to say I think I like "Nantettatte Densetsu" better than "Hamette Sabotte Oh My God!"

But neither of them comes close to the ultimate song-of-all-songs, "Kumikyoku Lucky Star Douga," although not sure if that one really counts, since it's a remix.

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Hmm, 2nd listen... damn, the chorus of Hamette Sabotte is insanely catchy. I think I'll keep these on repeat for a bit. :XD

[Galth]

Personally, I'm much more into "Hamatte Sabotte Oh My God!", even if it's a blatant "Motteke! Sailor Fuku" clone. I've kept it on repeat for around two hours now.

[kaylee]

Personally, I'm much more into "Hamatte Sabotte Oh My God!", even if it's a blatant "Motteke! Sailor Fuku" clone.

Yes, that's exactly the reason why I prefer the other one. :amuse

And yay! 1500 posts!
:confetti

Closing it now? :wtf