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Gold Knight
November 28, 2006, 10:53 AM
*hijacks*
Welcome to the Blue Dragon - RalΩGrado Discussion Thread!

We closed the Blue Dragon subforum because the Manga was finished and the discussions weren't that much active. All threads were merged into this one, no posts were deleted. I let it stay as a sticky for a while, no nobody needs to search the old forum ^_^

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Blue Dragon - RalΩGrado SHORT-INFO
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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/taheca/mh/bd_small.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/taheca/mh/bd.jpg)

Title: Blue Dragon - RalΩGrado (ブルードラゴン ラルΩグラド)
Authored by Tsuneo Takano (story), Takeshi Obata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeshi_Obata) (art)
Serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Shonen_Jump) (12/2006-07/2007)
Genre: Shōnen, Adventure, Ecchi, Drama, Fantasy, Comedy
Japanese Release: 29 chapters in 4 volumes (complete)
Scanlation: complete
Age Ranking: Teenagers

Summary (taken from wikipedia):
In a world where demonic creatures named shadows enter our realm through their very namesakes, little is safe. However, when a young boy by the name of Ral becomes friends with the shadow inside him, he may be the last hope in saving the world. Ral lives on the island of Sphaein, in the kingdom of Sphaelite. There he has been enlisted to protect the kingdom from evil shadows that wish to destroy it. With the aid of his shadow, a large blue dragon named Grado, and his teacher, Mio, Ral can take on any challanger.

Note: Based on the Video Game "Blue Dragon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dragon_%28video_game%29)"

Resources: BD@wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dragon_Ral_Grado), BD@mangaupdates (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5260)


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Looks like this is going to be Obata's new Jump manga. The pages are interesting, to say the least.

Some pages:

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zindryr's Translation:



I numbered the pages in the actual order. The pages in the first post aren't ordered correctly. 1 2 3 5 6 4 7 8

Page 01

Boobies.

Page 02
*grope*

Wha-... what!?

Wa-wait. He doesn't know any better, he doesn't mean any harm.

Leave this to me.

What's this?

*grope*

Br-... breasts.

I never did get a chance to teach you about this...

*grope*

Page 03
Mio, you feel so soft and nice.

You smell nice, too.

What's down here?

St-... stop, you fool!

Is this not allowed? It feels really good though.

Ral, you aren't wrong. Boys like girls, you're right there.

That's right, you've never been held by your mother or touched another human. So if you don't mind doing so to me...

But you shouldn't do this in front of other people.

Why?

Page 04
Because being naked and embracing one another in front of people is embarrassing.

I've been naked this whole time, should I be embarrassed?

Hehe! Ye-yes, well, if you defeat the Shadow, then we will have some excellent clothes made for you.

Look, everyone else is wearing clothes.

So, you're enduring embarrassment just for me, Mio?

Yes, but it is my fault for never teaching you about girls.

Grudo, can I take care of the Shadow outside later?

Indeed, so long as you don't die then I don't care about the Shadow outside or any of these people here.

No, if I don't take care of the Shadow outside right away, I'll never be a big shot.

Is that right? Well, leave it to me.

Well then, Mio.

Page 05
I should say, Mistress Mio, teach me all about girls.

I, I can't do that here.

Then where?

Er... like, on a bed...

Uh...

Oh! That's where humans sleep! Ok, let's go there.

Wa-... wait a second, Ral.

If you go out and protect us from the oncoming Shadow...

But I want to learn about girls from you Mio.

Then how about this?

Page 06
If I can destroy the shadow, then you'll teach me all about girls.

Alright.

If you do that then I'll teach you. It's a deal.

Whatever a deal is. Anyway, promise.

Sure. I promise, Ral.

Alright, Mistress Mio.

Page 07
Ral! That was awesome!

Alright, you promised, teach me everything about girls.

Oh.

Fine. Follow me, Ral.

Yes, Mistress Mio!

Mio's sacrificing herself for all of us.

I'm not so sure.

I kind of envy her.

Me too.

So a savior is born...

Page 08
Hurry, hurry!

Wait just a moment.

I'll be right there.

I think it's great that I got out of the depths of that prison alive.

Mistress Mio, it's...

It's really beautiful out here.

Ayah
November 28, 2006, 11:16 AM
LOL, fanservice for the guys :D

KuwabaraTheMan
November 28, 2006, 11:25 AM
I like the looks of this....

bax
November 28, 2006, 11:29 AM
Looks like an extra manga for me to download :clap

zenozatch
November 28, 2006, 11:59 AM
Yes...looks good..hehe....Yeah..I'll defiantly be downloading this manga.

Galth
November 28, 2006, 12:41 PM
Great... artwork... >.>

Gold Knight
November 28, 2006, 12:45 PM
Heh, the main character is VERY L-like in his attitude.

zindryr
November 28, 2006, 12:45 PM
That's what you think.


I numbered the pages in the actual order. The pages in the first post aren't ordered correctly. 1 2 3 5 6 4 7 8

Page 01

Boobies.

Page 02
*grope*

Wha-... what!?

Wa-wait. He doesn't know any better, he doesn't mean any harm.

Leave this to me.

What's this?

*grope*

Br-... breasts.

I never did get a chance to teach you about this...

*grope*

Page 03
Mio, you feel so soft and nice.

You smell nice, too.

What's down here?

St-... stop, you fool!

Is this not allowed? It feels really good though.

Ral, you aren't wrong. Boys like girls, you're right there.

That's right, you've never been held by your mother or touched another human. So if you don't mind doing so to me...

But you shouldn't do this in front of other people.

Why?

Page 04
Because being naked and embracing one another in front of people is embarrassing.

I've been naked this whole time, should I be embarrassed?

Hehe! Ye-yes, well, if you defeat the Shadow, then we will have some excellent clothes made for you.

Look, everyone else is wearing clothes.

So, you're enduring embarrassment just for me, Mio?

Yes, but it is my fault for never teaching you about girls.

Grudo, can I take care of the Shadow outside later?

Indeed, so long as you don't die then I don't care about the Shadow outside or any of these people here.

No, if I don't take care of the Shadow outside right away, I'll never be a big shot.

Is that right? Well, leave it to me.

Well then, Mio.

Page 05
I should say, Mistress Mio, teach me all about girls.

I, I can't do that here.

Then where?

Er... like, on a bed...

Uh...

Oh! That's where humans sleep! Ok, let's go there.

Wa-... wait a second, Ral.

If you go out and protect us from the oncoming Shadow...

But I want to learn about girls from you Mio.

Then how about this?

Page 06
If I can destroy the shadow, then you'll teach me all about girls.

Alright.

If you do that then I'll teach you. It's a deal.

Whatever a deal is. Anyway, promise.

Sure. I promise, Ral.

Alright, Mistress Mio.

Page 07
Ral! That was awesome!

Alright, you promised, teach me everything about girls.

Oh.

Fine. Follow me, Ral.

Yes, Mistress Mio!

Mio's sacrificing herself for all of us.

I'm not so sure.

I kind of envy her.

Me too.

So a savior is born...

Page 08
Hurry, hurry!

Wait just a moment.

I'll be right there.

I think it's great that I got out of the depths of that prison alive.

Mistress Mio, it's...

It's really beautiful out here.

ThE WoRm
November 28, 2006, 01:05 PM
Haaaaaa! The pages are out of order... Sex on the first chapter?! WTF?!?! "So, as you promised, teach me about women", "Okay, if I promised, I will", and that picture to the right... Oo (Not to talk about the one on the left)

Oops, it's in order, only the part where he beats the shadow was taken out Oo and in the last page (the one to the left) she is after (probably) "teaching" him about women, she said you can "teach" about women in "beds" and so, in pages before that...

That's kinda... Kinky, isn't it? Even Hentaish for SJ, where do you see people having sex in SJ? Huh? Oo

Well, maybe it's not sex, as Ral doesn't know a thing, as Mio-sensei said, they need him to take on the shadows, so she buys him with this thing, touching her naked, anyways... Oo Not sure what really happened because the pages are not here Oo L was less clueless than Ral.

zindryr
November 28, 2006, 01:19 PM
Translated the pages, by the by.

ThE WoRm
November 28, 2006, 01:24 PM
Kinky, like I said...

Ayah
November 28, 2006, 01:25 PM
Want me to fix the order of the scans? I didn't know the order when I posted 4-8 until your translation. Thanks too BTW!

blasta
November 28, 2006, 01:25 PM
Thanks zindryr for tranlating the pages :smile-big Artwork looks nice and yes fanservice! :smile-big

Maxy Barnard
November 28, 2006, 04:18 PM
obata really does draw anything. cool

Chris
November 28, 2006, 05:45 PM
This is so awesome^^ Thanks for the translation zindryr :hug

Gold Knight
November 28, 2006, 06:30 PM
Ah, thanks zindryr ^^ I've added your translation to the first post.

zindryr
November 28, 2006, 08:18 PM
Ugh, it's apparently Grudo, even though the Japanese is Gurado. Updated it in my translation.

NeoShweaty
November 28, 2006, 08:29 PM
zindryr doing jump manga other than Bastard? (although bastards run in jump ended ages ago...i think) GASP. Lol, in seriousness, there is nothing special about this preview so i await the full chapter before i am impressed. (I was never into fanservice, if i wanted something like that, i would watch porn)

zindryr
November 28, 2006, 08:30 PM
This reminded me of Bastard from the few preview pictures. Hence instant attention grabbed. I'm hoping the full first chapter will be awesome.

NeoShweaty
November 28, 2006, 08:34 PM
I dont know. I mean manga based off of games tend to suck, alot. I will wait until at least a few volumes are out before making any opinion one way or the other on this series.

barbapapa
November 28, 2006, 09:08 PM
zindryr doing jump manga other than Bastard? (although bastards run in jump ended ages ago...i think) GASP. Lol, in seriousness, there is nothing special about this preview so i await the full chapter before i am impressed. (I was never into fanservice, if i wanted something like that, i would watch porn)


Yeah but porn is too... porn
It's what you don't see that's more fun imo :P And that's exactly what fanservice is. (of course, seeing absolutely nothing aint fun either)

Of course, a manga must have more content than just boobies. But you cant judge this on 8 pages that were probably leaked only because they had fanservice. Which in general is a rarity in Takeshi Obata manga.

Either way, I'm in love with that girl. :x

manu
November 28, 2006, 09:12 PM
So then this manga is based of a game based off Toriyama's art design? Why is Obata the artist then and is this the Blue Dragon game for 360 that I've heard about in Shonen Jump (the american one.)

barbapapa
November 28, 2006, 09:34 PM
Its based on that Xbox 360 with the Akira Toriyama designs yes.

Why is Obata the artist? Why not, its a different story than the game, just set in the same Blue Dragon Universe probably.
There's another Blue Dragon manga starting in Monthly Jump, from another mangaka. Which looks a bit more like Toriyama's way of drawing. But I dont know if that'll follow the game's storyline more strictly.

njt
November 28, 2006, 09:54 PM
updated your new version of your trans zindryr~~ great job btw :ossu

this manga does look a bit... interesting... but just how much fan service do they plan on giving?? >.>

zindryr
November 29, 2006, 12:38 AM
I imagine a majority of the 50+ pages will be backstory and fighting, and these few pages here will be most of the fanservice. For a big artist like Obata to do a merely fan service manga would be a waste of Shounen Jump's time. They've got plenty of that already.

GGpX
November 29, 2006, 01:04 AM
Yo, Chris~

I hope TOWNL does good on this. I might actually download it. ;p

manu
November 29, 2006, 02:47 AM
Hmm seems like everyone is going to let TOWNL, who has expierence of this artist, take up this series. Well I tried to do a page but only ended up doing two frames before I released who ever cleans this is going to have hell with the dudes hair. I don't own, a good grey patteren for his hair and ended making it look like this. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/amanoo/2half.jpg

Probably not the best place to put this but did I do a MQ or HQ?

blasta
November 29, 2006, 02:53 AM
I think you did a great job and looks like HQ to me :smile-big

GGpX
November 29, 2006, 02:59 AM
High MQ.

Close to HQ, but not there yet. It's incomplete. Still noticeable dust on the page, and the lines on the hair look a bit... iffy.

manu
November 29, 2006, 03:10 AM
... I hate hair...
Both as a wannabe editor and in real life. Wish TOWNL the best of luck with this project but they're always super HQ so I know I won't be dissappointed.

Reloaded
November 30, 2006, 05:35 AM
lol im already loving this manga that guy is so like L.

white silver
November 30, 2006, 05:44 AM
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Someone has GOT to scanslate this manga!

Majek
November 30, 2006, 09:39 AM
ulalala is all i can say <3

zindryr
November 30, 2006, 10:07 AM
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Someone has GOT to scanslate this manga!


Every scanlator and their mother is probably already planning on it. It is Obata's art after all.

ThE WoRm
November 30, 2006, 10:14 AM
Well, I don't know if their mothers will be into it after seeing the preview, but scanlators, yes, I'll have to agree (suggests MH will open a RTS thread for Ral Grado, as it's gonna be over flooded really soon :P)

Gold Knight
November 30, 2006, 12:15 PM
Heh, I gave Touch the green light to do a RTS on this yes. And the full chapter (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11456.0) is out.

Though, I suppose we need an official discussion thread for it - so I'll start it.

EDIT: It's up. Here. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11460.0) I'm going to lock this thread, it's served its purpose.

Gold Knight
November 30, 2006, 12:24 PM
Since this is somewhat of an unusual circumstance - we've never had a manga as eagerly anticipated as this one start in a Jump magazine before where it's obvious everybody will be reading it - mostly due to Takeshi Obata's art, but the previews were good, too - here is a special stickied discussion thread for Blue Dragon.

If you haven't yet downloaded the first chapter, you can do so at this thread. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11456.0) Be sure to thank Touch for his efforts.

I'm sure a translation will be forthcoming, as well as scanlations, soon.

All I know from reading the chapter without the translation - is there's certainly monsters galore, and a little unexpected fanservice. >.> (I'm amazed she didn't slap him silly.)

EDIT: Here's the summary of the first chapter as provided by pocketmofo - thanks, man!


Ral is a 15 year old boy with a blue dragon Kage named "Grado" who are both sealed in absolute darkness under his father's, King Roy's, castle. The castle is under siege by the Kage, monsters from the world of darkness who are basically shadows that take over living creatures' bodies.

Mio is Ral's teacher and she pleads with the king to let him out. She explains that there are three types of Kage possession of living things: First - where the Kage bonds with the person and shows itself through the thing's shadow, Second - where the Kage basically eats away at the living thing and takes control over it allowing the Kage to assume the living thing's form or its own Kage form, and Third where the Kage has control and begins to strengthen itself by eating other creatures and Seconds.

King Roy says that he realized his newborn son had been possessed by the dragon Grado and he decides to seal him in darkness. 15 years later the kingdom is under siege and they decide to let Ral out.

Ral/Grado attacks his father when he gets out because Grado has been wanting revenge on the ones who sealed him away. Ral then notices that Mio protects him and that she looks different from him. He then inspects her breasts and Mio tells him that getting naked and doing that sort of thing is embarassing and shouldn't be done in front of others. She then promises to teach him about women if he will go out and defeat the Kage who are attacking.

Ral agrees and then goes out and tears up the other Kage. The other Kage aren't sure what type of Kage Ral and Grado are so he tells them that he's a "Friend" type where the Kage and the host get along and help each other. He uses a piece of Grado's mane to stop the boss Kage in its tracks and then proceeds to beat the monster to a pulp (all the while refusing to use Grado's dragon fire attack since the enemies are too weak to waste it on them).

Ral then comes back and is about to "learn about women" when he falls asleep. Mio then says that she'll make sure he grows up to be a hero.

Ral while sleeping says that he'll keep fighting the Kage because he likes women and Grado says that he'll stick with Ral for as long as there are things that he wants to kill.

Kinda long, but that pretty much sums up the chapter. Enjoy!

Anyway, have fun.

pocketmofo
November 30, 2006, 12:28 PM
I just scanned through the chapter and it has quite a bit of potential. Plus, Lal's obsession with women (particularly Mio and her breasts) was pretty funny. Also, the conversation between Lal (the boy) and Grad (the dragon) was pretty damn funny.

I don't know if I have time to translate, but I'm sure people will enjoy the chapter.

ttxdragon
November 30, 2006, 12:29 PM
just skipped through the raw... so not much of text that i caught...

but...
great art, nice monsters, great fanservice.
all in all this could be VERY much fun.

one thing i noticed: the monsters 'face' on the covershot looks very much alike the lvl3 akuma that allen fought in D.Gray-man xD
it's nothing important, just a side not :P

zindryr
November 30, 2006, 12:42 PM
Lots of talking and backstory in the first 20 or so pages. Pretty damn cool story so far though. (I hate to say it, but Naruto references are available. Damn shounen style, heh.)

Oh, and pocketmofo, I think it's Ral and Grado, or at least that's what I've read more often than not.

I'd have to agree though, it does look like it has a lot of potential. Didn't it remind you of Bastard!! somewhat?

pocketmofo
November 30, 2006, 12:51 PM
It certainly did remind me of Bastard (just not quite as perverse yet). I might just have to translate it afterall (despite the Naruto shadow binding techniques). If I do translate it I'll just leave it as Ral and Grado then.

zindryr
November 30, 2006, 12:54 PM
I've started transcribing the script too. There'll be a good many translations for this it seems.

I think some of us were waiting for something good to come out of the old Shounen Jump.

cravenight
November 30, 2006, 01:15 PM
Given the games being too kiddy for many people, its so surprising that they would have such fan service, and i too felt that she should have slap him, but maybe i been watching too much pumpkin scissor.

eni
November 30, 2006, 01:20 PM
I've started transcribing the script too. There'll be a good many translations for this it seems.

I think some of us were waiting for something good to come out of the old Shounen Jump.


go go go zindryr :fan

I still wait for the download to finish, but I look forward to it.
The preview pics were enough for me to want more of this wonderful art. Hopefully the story is also good :D

Gold Knight
November 30, 2006, 02:00 PM
It certainly did remind me of Bastard (just not quite as perverse yet). I might just have to translate it afterall (despite the Naruto shadow binding techniques). If I do translate it I'll just leave it as Ral and Grado then.





I've started transcribing the script too. There'll be a good many translations for this it seems.

I think some of us were waiting for something good to come out of the old Shounen Jump.


Feel free to post in separate threads in this forum or your own translation boards; I'll link to them in the first post of this thread as well.

ttxdragon
November 30, 2006, 02:02 PM
this series might need it's own subforum very soon as much hype as we have about it right now xD
and thanks zindryr and poketmofo for (considering to) translate this potentially wonderful manga :D

mangadictus
November 30, 2006, 02:14 PM
As I said (in the wrong thread) the girl looks like Yuufa from Ragnarok. And the dragon looks like Wrath from FMA.

infyquest
November 30, 2006, 02:23 PM
Sorry GK, I think posted most of the stuff in the wrong thread.
I cant wait to see the raw :nosebleed :o

Meno
November 30, 2006, 02:44 PM
Looks quite interesting. The art is definitely what I expected, coming from the guy who did HnG and DN. And I trust zin's judgement in good plots, so hopefully the translation will help things out considerably.

eni
November 30, 2006, 02:59 PM
Ok, done.


I must say, I like it so far :amuse
Hopefully it won't turn into a battle-only shounen, but there is the potential for a nice plot as well. I'll have to wait a few month and see how it develops. Reminds me a little bit of Chrno Crusade with the older (holy) maiden/nun and her little devil-boyfriend.



And the dragon looks like Wrath from FMA.
Hehe, yes. And like a mini version of Death Note's L .
But only with the long hair, so it seems? We will see his completed style in the next chapter. The cleaners will gratefully kneel down for the haircut: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/taheca/bd.jpg

Anyways, I look forward to the translation :clap

Ayah
November 30, 2006, 03:11 PM
The cleaners will gratefully kneel down for the haircut

manu already complained about cleaning Ral's hair in the preview thread, so the haircut will be very much welcomed among cleaners. I want to read a translation first before I comment on the chapter, but it would take some time given the number of pages.

infyquest
November 30, 2006, 03:14 PM
I wanna become Ral :p

kyubisharingan
November 30, 2006, 03:14 PM
WOW this Manga is really cool, although i could understand anything. That one chick is HOT!!!*ahem* excuse me. Whoever scanlates this is gonna have to b pretty damn good lol

infyquest
November 30, 2006, 03:17 PM
Otherwise I'm gonna kill that person, whoever does it bad :p

eni
November 30, 2006, 03:23 PM
I want to read a translation first before I comment on the chapter, but it would take some time given the number of pages.

Japp japp, you're right.
Let's wait and enjoy the long missed Obata-Art until then :love



Otherwise I'm gonna kill that person, whoever does it bad :p

Don't scare our beloved translators off, that's not nice :blink

infyquest
November 30, 2006, 03:38 PM
hehehe..................
Gommena....
Im letting aware of them, do it carefully.
Ok, I will tell very sweetly, do it nicely...............
@eni:
I have never seen you, where were you hiding

Gold Knight
November 30, 2006, 03:53 PM
Eni is our D. Gray Man / 666 Satan mod, infyquest.

And don't spam.

coungpow
November 30, 2006, 04:06 PM
yeah sry i wanted to thank touch but that always seems like such a pointless post. yeah i guess you can't blame the artist for the story line but i seem to always hate how the writers in the series he animates end things... but yea i still say it looks sorta like a pg-13 berserk, guess i'll have to give it a read

manu
November 30, 2006, 04:13 PM
manu already complained about cleaning Ral's hair in the preview thread,
well thats what i do...whine

though it looks like an HQ for this chapter will need a lot of different gray patterns, just for the "shadows" alone. I'm assuming the huge thing the kid summoned was a shadow. Well if anyone nows a good place to download lots of gray sets would be helpful ^^.

Majek
November 30, 2006, 04:15 PM
Poor guy he did all the badassnes and in the end he didnt' even get IT :D

eni
November 30, 2006, 05:20 PM
Eni is our D. Gray Man / 666 Satan mod, infyquest.

Aka 666D.GrayMod ... :kukuku



Poor guy he did all the badassnes and in the end he didnt' even get IT :D

Ah well, that would be a little bit to fast. And on the other hand - he's so young :blink
I'm not sure, maybe it's because I'm so old or because he's such childish looking, but ... well ... I need the translation first to know how long he was sealed away. I just think that story would need a timeskip or some body development/transformation before they do it or it would be to much shotacon-like for my taste^^

zindryr
November 30, 2006, 05:32 PM
The information you seek is spoilered. (Age, how long sealed away, etc.)

15 years. He was sealed away for 15 years, pretty much right after he was born. So, he's only 15 years old, like most other shounen heroes.

pocketmofo
November 30, 2006, 05:33 PM
I will post a translation later, but for now here's a synopsis of the chapter:

Ral is a 15 year old boy with a blue dragon Kage named "Grado" who are both sealed in absolute darkness under his father's, King Roy's, castle. The castle is under siege by the Kage, monsters from the world of darkness who are basically shadows that take over living creatures' bodies.

Mio is Ral's teacher and she pleads with the king to let him out. She explains that there are three types of Kage possession of living things: First - where the Kage bonds with the person and shows itself through the thing's shadow, Second - where the Kage basically eats away at the living thing and takes control over it allowing the Kage to assume the living thing's form or its own Kage form, and Third where the Kage has control and begins to strengthen itself by eating other creatures and Seconds.

King Roy says that he realized his newborn son had been possessed by the dragon Grado and he decides to seal him in darkness. 15 years later the kingdom is under siege and they decide to let Ral out.

Ral/Grado attacks his father when he gets out because Grado has been wanting revenge on the ones who sealed him away. Ral then notices that Mio protects him and that she looks different from him. He then inspects her breasts and Mio tells him that getting naked and doing that sort of thing is embarassing and shouldn't be done in front of others. She then promises to teach him about women if he will go out and defeat the Kage who are attacking.

Ral agrees and then goes out and tears up the other Kage. The other Kage aren't sure what type of Kage Ral and Grado are so he tells them that he's a "Friend" type where the Kage and the host get along and help each other. He uses a piece of Grado's mane to stop the boss Kage in its tracks and then proceeds to beat the monster to a pulp (all the while refusing to use Grado's dragon fire attack since the enemies are too weak to waste it on them).

Ral then comes back and is about to "learn about women" when he falls asleep. Mio then says that she'll make sure he grows up to be a hero.

Ral while sleeping says that he'll keep fighting the Kage because he likes women and Grado says that he'll stick with Ral for as long as there are things that he wants to kill.

Kinda long, but that pretty much sums up the chapter. Enjoy!

Ayah
November 30, 2006, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the summary, pocketmofo :amuse

redrum305
November 30, 2006, 05:49 PM
This is the same guy who made Death Note right??? So maybe it's why it seems a darker shounen. It'd be even greater if it has kind of the same darkness as Death note did because frankly im starting to get tired of those typical shounen filled with COmic reliefs.

JoJoJO
November 30, 2006, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the quick summary pocketmofo :smile-big

eni
November 30, 2006, 06:03 PM
Nice, thank you both :love

Well, ok ... 15 years is ok. From the look I thought he's 12 or even younger. The eyes reminds me a little of Hikaru at the beginning of HnG. I loved how Obata let him grow older through all the volumes.
Would be nice to see a similiar age development again :)

redrum305
November 30, 2006, 06:06 PM
I hope there aren't any comic reliefs. I hope it takes a more serious tone with its darker theme.

JoJoJO
November 30, 2006, 06:07 PM
His face creeps me out, especially that smile of his he looks like a psychopath to me. :notrust

Ayah
November 30, 2006, 06:08 PM
This is the same guy who made Death Note right??? So maybe it's why it seems a darker shounen. It'd be even greater if it has kind of the same darkness as Death note did because frankly im starting to get tired of those typical shounen filled with COmic reliefs.


The "same guy" you're referring to only draws; he is not responsible for the writing. The authors of Death Note and Blue Dragon - Ral Grado are different. Perhaps Obata (the "same guy") likes to team up with authors capable of writing darker shounen.

mangadictus
November 30, 2006, 06:15 PM
Thanks pocket! Sounds nice. :)

Father
November 30, 2006, 07:45 PM
This one has a lot of potential. Ral is creeping lookin' but pretty awesome XD

coungpow
November 30, 2006, 08:20 PM
thanks pocket sounds like it could be interesting

warsaint777
November 30, 2006, 08:37 PM
Dude creepy = awesome you dumb bunnies. The main character is sweet lookin'.

cravenight
November 30, 2006, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the spoilers, well his motivation sure is different, from the normal hero first time i heard women as the cause, though that could be because i just don't read enough manga.

ijoit3k
November 30, 2006, 09:42 PM
this manga is going to hit..i like this stuff

Kyuzo
November 30, 2006, 10:09 PM
Looks good, I hope it isn't like not just another promotion for the Blue Dragon game though. At least this manga is supposed to have a separate plot, the other Blue Dragon manga is gonna be the exact same story. It's funny though because the manga artwork is so much darker than the game artwork by Toriyama. If ya didn't know about the game and the two mangas accompanying it you'd think the names were a coincidence lol.

redrum305
November 30, 2006, 10:17 PM
who's making the other manga?? I bet this one will be much better than the other one.

infyquest
November 30, 2006, 10:49 PM
Thanks for pocketmofo, my saviour.
I too like girls. :p
I would also do anything like Ral for it.

warsaint777
November 30, 2006, 11:45 PM
How can this be weekly? Its art runs circles around the divine trio. I'll be keeping its consistency of quality into question.

How about that breast fondling though? Charming. Though as soon as he started looking down her robe I started getting a little nervous... ¬_¬;

What's this Naruto ripoff everyone's mad about?

zindryr
November 30, 2006, 11:49 PM
It's not so much a Naruto ripoff as it is a parallel that can be made between the two.

Naruto - Nine-Tailed Fox, or Kyuubi
Ral - Grado

That aside, Obata kept up Death Note weekly with the good art that series had, it shouldn't be fairly hard to do the same for this.

Ayah
November 30, 2006, 11:50 PM
How can this be weekly? Its art runs circles around the divine trio. I'll be keeping its consistency of quality into question.

The author and artist are separate people, that's why I think it's possible for the art to be this good for a weekly release. The artist can draw without worrying what to do next with the story (unless the author passes the script late). Oh, and he really is good in it the first place.

cravenight
November 30, 2006, 11:54 PM
There are so many manga out there with some one with a strong monster in side, and naruto isn't the first to do it, i don't know why people keep comparing it to naruto.

purple_pride
December 01, 2006, 12:08 AM
This manga will be boys' dream. I won't mind fan service or porn scences, but the story line should more reasonable. After reading the translation, the plot sound nothing but keep fighting untill no 'Shadow' leave in the human's world and do more fan service. (You bet, you could see the Queen with fan service.)

To compare with some story in the same period and plot (Claymore, Berserk, Bastard..etc.), this story plot looks so weak. Anyway, the artwork and fan boys will help a lot.

zindryr
December 01, 2006, 12:11 AM
Plot weak? We haven't even seen what the story is entirely about yet. It's only the first chapter. I'm giving it AT LEAST 4 more chapters before I make that decision.

shinigamikender
December 01, 2006, 12:25 AM
who's making the other manga?? I bet this one will be much better than the other one.


The other manga is Blue Dragon ST (Secret Trick). It will be running in Monthly Shounen Jump and is by Shibata Ami.

A preview of the art can be found here: http://mj.shueisha.co.jp/bdst/index.html

renrutal
December 01, 2006, 12:33 AM
So, this is a weekly story, not just an oneshot propaganda?

cravenight
December 01, 2006, 12:36 AM
There more chapters, one shot has some completeness to it, they don't introduce a greater villian in a one shot. Man, the other Blue dragon is so so different, the only thing the same is the name, and monster from the shadows.

eni
December 01, 2006, 05:59 AM
To compare with some story in the same period and plot (Claymore, Berserk, Bastard..etc.), this story plot looks so weak.

Don't compare so much. Every writer has another way of story telling.
Some storys starts with a BANG, others are very slooow on the beginning ... but that doesn't mean that the whole plot is weak.
A first chapter is always hard for the Mangaka. He needs to win readers without telling to much details.



Man, the other Blue dragon is so so different, the only thing the same is the name, and monster from the shadows.

Agreed :blink ... reminds me of Kiddi stuff like Digimons xD

jairdan6
December 01, 2006, 07:18 PM
oh i loved digimons.

Vengeaner
December 02, 2006, 03:35 AM
This is not as promising as Death Note imo, but who knows what will it be? first chapter mainly shows some basics of those world, nothing certain... we cant even realise who our main hero will be - hero or some evil guy?
The World we see is not very complicated as it seems from the first view, but its not so common, its not as positive as usual shounens.
Well, lets wait for more chapters, hard to tell something from first chapter

manu
December 02, 2006, 03:45 AM
Well from what I cant tell Grado is the Sai or Ryuuku to Ral. Which is interesting isn't, it seems that even though they are all written by seperate people all of them have a main character who has a another person inside them that gives them power.

Stylez
December 02, 2006, 08:17 AM
Hmm, looks pretty cool so far. Ral reminds me of L a little bit.

saadku
December 02, 2006, 10:51 AM
Can someone tell me about Blue Dragon? is it any good? and post some pics of it

Thanks in Advance[br]Posted on: December 02, 2006, 10:14:55 AM_________________________________________________How many Ch are out so far??[br]Posted on: December 02, 2006, 10:43:18 AM_________________________________________________Is there another manga with the name Blue Dragon ST or is it the same manga

bax
December 02, 2006, 11:00 AM
If you want to see the preview of it, you can go to the Blue Dragon Previews (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11357.0). There you can see them in the first post.

This week is the first chapter of it.
As if it is any good, it is up to you. You can get it here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11456.0)

And if you have any further inquiries, you can ask inside the Blue Dragon Discussion (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11460.0).

*Thread Locked*

ibra87
December 02, 2006, 11:06 AM
The other manga is Blue Dragon ST (Secret Trick). It will be running in Monthly Shounen Jump and is by Shibata Ami.

A preview of the art can be found here: http://mj.shueisha.co.jp/bdst/index.html

I thought that was the XBox 360 game Blue Dragon?

bannik
December 02, 2006, 08:45 PM
Lots of potential in this manga...I found this chapter a bit too fast, but the first one is always like that.....

promfret
December 03, 2006, 06:22 AM
1st chapter looks awesome.

I feel a sub forum for it to come soon here. :D

Hope it gets better.

Gold Knight
December 03, 2006, 08:21 AM
Going to link to pocketmofo's summary in the first post and the R/T/S. Thanks, pocket.

Bleras
December 03, 2006, 01:59 PM
Well, this looks VERY good, but as someone has already said, the art is too good for a weekly manga... hope it remains like this.

I see a new awesome manga approaching...

SporkNinja
December 04, 2006, 12:07 AM
I'm pretty impressed. First thoughts were about how it was going to look like the Blue Dragon game coming to the 360. Was skeptical about that. As soon as I unzipped it, I was in awe at the art style. Nothing like the 360 Blue Dragon that looks like Akira Toriyama artstyle. (Which isn't that good, well to me.)
Ral is interesting character and somewhat sane for being imprisoned that way for his entire life. Mio being inspected and fondled. For a moment I thought I was gonna be dissapointed as it looked like it might become one whole sex scene. I'm still amazed how bold it was to come that close to become that "flashy." The dragon, that's interesting trying to be different than the rest of his kind.

BlackGoku03
December 04, 2006, 04:11 AM
Hmm...

Anybody know of any higher quality raws? If not, I'll just work witht the LQ.

Nami
December 04, 2006, 07:40 AM
I'm totally into Monsters and stuff, read the translations for this. It's really interesting.
I thought it has potential to be a one of the more popular hits, provided it don't stray into some simple storyline . :amuse

firehawk
December 04, 2006, 01:48 PM
I love this first chapter, it immediately caught my attention. hope the rest would keep up and be even better with this chapter

lux200
December 04, 2006, 02:16 PM
666satan, naruto, berserk, bleach....damn and now another one with a main hero that has something evil hidden inside of him.

Still the intro shows a fantastic artwork....and the plot seems to be promising. I ll give the first 10 chapters a chance .
good ting is that its a weakly manga!

~Lilium~
December 04, 2006, 10:26 PM
Finally got the zip version so i can read it. <<yay for me!>> People are saying that this is a weekly manga right? So what day of the week does it come out? I looking forward to the series. Looks good so far.

Ayah
December 04, 2006, 10:51 PM
Same day as One Piece, Naruto, Bleach and other Weekly Shounen Jump manga. We usually get those on Thursdays, although the actual issue is not officially out in Japan 'til the following Monday.

redrum305
December 05, 2006, 02:13 AM
666satan, naruto, berserk, bleach....damn and now another one with a main hero that has something evil hidden inside of him.

Still the intro shows a fantastic artwork....and the plot seems to be promising. I ll give the first 10 chapters a chance .
good ting is that its a weakly manga!

correction, IN berserk, Gatts doesn't have anything in him, the hound dog stand for his hate.

Juushirou
December 06, 2006, 03:18 AM
Tale 2....

From Himajin (simple)

ミオ、朝食をラルに持ってくる
部屋を開けたらミオの目の前には裸の女性二人

ラル不在
ラルは大浴場で女の子達と戯れる

そしてカゲの女王登場
女の子を生贄にして自分の力にする

で、なんかラルの所に刺客登場
ラル一蹴

その刺客に女王の居場所を聞く
ラル、そこに行こうと決心する

終わり

Images...
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9029/t002wy5.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t002wy5.jpg)

Gret
December 06, 2006, 07:41 AM
Woah! I can't wait for the second chapter.

woof
December 06, 2006, 07:46 AM
just read the scan and i must say this is great!

Mio is really hot >_< i like the story so letz hope for alot more releases :)

mh please make a forum for this manga too :) :) :)

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 09:40 AM
Just so people know, I've created a separate thread for "Blue Dragon Spoilers" because I noticed somebody posted spoiler images here, and I didn't want anybody to be spoiled necessarily in this thread if they don't want to be. Moved the post there to the new thread. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11690.0)

Please keep this thread for discussion of released chapters ONLY, and leave spoilers discussion to the other thread.

And yes, if a lot of people like Blue Dragon enough, we'll be creating a subforum probably within the month or two, heh.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 09:42 AM
For now, this thread is to only be for Blue Dragon spoiler discussion. Please don't repeat the spoilers elsewhere on the forum.

Can't wait for a translation :)

peacedrunx
December 06, 2006, 09:44 AM
cool... i like this mangaXD... even if it still on its 1st ch..XD

peacedrunx
December 06, 2006, 09:48 AM
http://groups.msn.com/bluedragonmanga

it has 1 ch.of teh manga...(duh)... but will it will be updated..ofcourseXDD


sorry did not read all the post.... did somebody mentioned that this was a game based manga... ?XD sorry if sum1 mentioned already>.<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dragon_%28video_game%29

well...its wiki...>.<

Juushirou
December 06, 2006, 10:50 AM
For now, this thread is to only be for Blue Dragon spoiler discussion. Please don't repeat the spoilers elsewhere on the forum.

Can't wait for a translation :)



すまない

My english is bad, sorry, I only can translate to spanish...


ミオ、朝食をラルに持ってくる
部屋を開けたらミオの目の前には裸の女性二人
Mio lleva el desayuno a Ral
Pero cuando abre la puerta de la habitación se encuentra con 2 mujeres desnudas.

ラル不在
ラルは大浴場で女の子達と戯れる
Ral no esta.
Ral esta divirtiendose con las chicas en una gran bañera.

そしてカゲの女王登場
女の子を生贄にして自分の力にする
Y aparece la reina de las sombras (kage)
Hace que una chica se sacrifique para aumentar su poder.

で、なんかラルの所に刺客登場
ラル一蹴
Entonces, parece que entra el asesino donde esta Ral
Pero Ral lo hecha (repele, combate)

その刺客に女王の居場所を聞く
ラル、そこに行こうと決心する
Le pregunta al asesino donde esta la Reina
Ral se propone ir a ese lugar.

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 11:18 AM
Ah, too bad, my spanish is so horrible that i can't really understand the summary.

Wow, so much fan service, is ral dreaming of those girls or are they real. the queen looks intresting.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 11:24 AM
That's somewhat funny, now we need a Spanish-to-English translator XD Thanks anyway Juushirou :)

But looks like zindryr and pocketmofo's here to help us out.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 11:26 AM
Yeah, it's a manga based on the game, but separate storyline, and better art (imo).

Just read the the LQ scan and enjoyed the chapter a lot. Ral's being a hero just to get girls... how typical. ^^;

But a pretty natural motive. Looking forward to more.

zindryr
December 06, 2006, 11:28 AM
Basically, Mio goes to bring Ral his breakfast, and finds two naked girls in his bed, but no Ral. He's playing with the girls in the public bath. The queen of the shadows makes her first appearance. Sends she sacrifices a girl to increase her powers. Somehow an assassin gets to Ral, and Ral kicks him (rofl?). They ask the assassin where the queen is. Ral decides to go there. Over.

pocketmofo
December 06, 2006, 11:29 AM
Here's a quick translation (in English) of this week's chapter:

ミオ、朝食をラルに持ってくる
Mio brings Ral breakfast

部屋を開けたらミオの目の前には裸の女性二人
But when she opens the door to his room, she sees two naked ladies in front of her.

ラル不在
Ral is not around.

ラルは大浴場で女の子達と戯れる
Ral is having some fun with girls in the bath

そしてカゲの女王登場
Scene then changes to the Queen of the Kage (Obscuria)

女の子を生贄にして自分の力にする
She uses young women as sacrifices to add to her power.

で、なんかラルの所に刺客登場
Then, an assassin comes to Ral’s place

ラル一蹴
Ral then kicks the assassin’s ass…

その刺客に女王の居場所を聞く
…and asks the assassin the whereabouts of Queen Obscuria.

ラル、そこに行こうと決心する
Ral then decides that he’s going to go there.

終わり
The end

JoJoJO
December 06, 2006, 11:35 AM
thanks for the spoiler

eni
December 06, 2006, 11:37 AM
*snickers* ... the pics looking hilarous :XD


Thanks zindryr and pocketmofo!

Finally the short hair and it realls fits him.
And what a bitch of a queen :notrust ... but seems sacrificing young girls is the best reason for Ral to fight her, eh? :blink

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 11:37 AM
Thanks, you two.

Very interesting. Well, since we've obviously getting a lot of member interest (and translations), I think I might as well go on and create a subforum. Hang on.

eni
December 06, 2006, 11:42 AM
Ral's being a hero just to get girls... how typical. ^^;

I think it's a nice variety from the more typical world resque topic, finally it's just for the girls ... simple and good :D

zindryr
December 06, 2006, 11:45 AM
It's also more fun than, I MUST PROTECT THIS ONE GIRL AND THIS ONE GIRL ALONE.

It's more along the lines of, I MUST PROTECT ALL GIRLS, BECAUSE THEY ARE HOT.

eni
December 06, 2006, 11:46 AM
Is that a new record of creating a subforum? Second chapter and already that popular, not bad :D

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 11:50 AM
I was going to wait a while, but seeing that we're already getting Spoilers for the latest chapters, figured, might as well.

JoJoJO
December 06, 2006, 11:57 AM
Wait, since when did Blue Dragon got a sub forum this his pretty fast.

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 11:59 AM
I wonder what would happen if he met a ugly girl, would he protect her, or say, you're ugly, you can die.

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 12:00 PM
Wow, a sub forums already, since there is a subforum, do we still discuss the spoilers here, or in the discussion thread. After all those years in isolation, and not knowing anything about girls, i really wonder how he can get so many girls.

JoJoJO
December 06, 2006, 12:03 PM
Wow, a sub forums already, since there is a subforum, do we still discuss the spoilers here, or in the discussion thread. After all those years in isolation, and not knowing anything about girls, i really wonder how he can get so many girls.


because he his a prince and he probably kidnapped them .

zindryr
December 06, 2006, 12:05 PM
Or, maybe he saved all their lives. Gratitude for one's life goes a long way.

JoJoJO
December 06, 2006, 12:06 PM
Or, maybe he saved all their lives. Gratitude for one's life goes a long way.


A very long and pleasant way indeed.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 12:07 PM
Wow, a sub forums already, since there is a subforum, do we still discuss the spoilers here, or in the discussion thread. After all those years in isolation, and not knowing anything about girls, i really wonder how he can get so many girls.


Keep Spoilers Discussion in here. We'll be creating new Discussion threads for later chapters when they're released.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 12:09 PM
I think it's a nice variety from the more typical world resque topic, finally it's just for the girls ... simple and good :D


Yeah :D



It's also more fun than, I MUST PROTECT THIS ONE GIRL AND THIS ONE GIRL ALONE.

It's more along the lines of, I MUST PROTECT ALL GIRLS, BECAUSE THEY ARE HOT.


I can relate. I started playing football because I thought it'd get me more dates with the cheerleaders.

peacedrunx
December 06, 2006, 12:11 PM
he's a hero for teh people....or should i say hes a hero specially for women..XD women easily falls over to a hero like tatXDDall it take is one flashy blow and women go "so kawaaiiiiii" XD

eni
December 06, 2006, 12:33 PM
I wonder what would happen if he met a ugly girl, would he protect her, or say, you're ugly, you can die.


lol? :blink ... well, he seems to have a cheerful nature and that will get along with "not so beautiful" girls as well, I think.
But I could imagine the mangaka planning a joke like this (Ral goes to rescue another hot girl, and in the ends it's a miss piggy) ... or we will just never see any ugly girls in this world >.<



I can relate. I started playing football because I thought it'd get me more dates with the cheerleaders.

And? Were you successful? :XD

ttxdragon
December 06, 2006, 12:42 PM
damn, this seems to be a fanservice manga...
and maybe the storyline is NOT as simple with kicking his ass and such or will get better...
i don't like to see a series with such great art to become pure fanservice driven... hope this is just because it's still the "setup" of the story...


but obatas art is perfect. and the fanservice makes it even better.

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 01:13 PM
I don't think we will be overwhelmed with fanservice, but they are probably just trying to show ral's love of women.

Its so wierd though to see fan sevice with this art style with deathnote pretty much not having any fanservice.

Galth
December 06, 2006, 01:28 PM
i really wonder how he can get so many girls.


It's called the Axe Factor ;)

Anyway, it's good to see the fanservicy theme is continued :D ... i mean, the story is great, yeah! >_>

Seems a bit early to go to the bigboss though?

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 01:41 PM
It just probalby to show what she is like, there probably won't be any direct action from here for a while, and who know if she is really the main villain.

grandweasel
December 06, 2006, 01:48 PM
hmmm, Im no sure about this manga....early days...but the first chapter seemed promising...but seems like its going to have a ridiculous amount of fanservice...and hes just going off to kick the Queens ass now....ridiculously fast set up...a short series maybe?

peace

Ayah
December 06, 2006, 02:50 PM
I still think it's too hasty for this to get a subforum (but GK decided to go ahead). Meh, more fanservice ensured.

zindryr
December 06, 2006, 03:58 PM
What did you expect? I mean, honestly. The last thing he says is that he wants to protect the world from the Shadow because girls are awesome. Were you expecting the next day to be something other than him running around and messing with girls, and then <insert plot point here>?

This is pretty much exactly what I expected, and was sort of hoping for. I'd prefer it if Ral wasn't tamed in a day. Hell, I'd prefer it if he was never tamed, but that won't happen.

eni
December 06, 2006, 04:06 PM
I still think it's too hasty for this to get a subforum (but GK decided to go ahead). Meh, more fanservice ensured.


Lets see how it works out.
Guys go usually crazy when it comes to fanservice (or have you ever see me screaming in the shoujo section about the newest smutty release? >.<), so for now the subforum shields the adventure manga forums from to much chaos >.>

jairdan6
December 06, 2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah :D

I can relate. I started playing football because I thought it'd get me more dates with the cheerleaders.


i had the same goal but since i was rubbish at football i joined the cheerleading squad. hehe, i feel like i can safely say that the bus full of cheerleaders is more enjoyable than the bus full of football players.

Ayah
December 06, 2006, 04:40 PM
What did you expect? I mean, honestly. The last thing he says is that he wants to protect the world from the Shadow because girls are awesome. Were you expecting the next day to be something other than him running around and messing with girls, and then <insert plot point here>?

This is pretty much exactly what I expected, and was sort of hoping for. I'd prefer it if Ral wasn't tamed in a day. Hell, I'd prefer it if he was never tamed, but that won't happen.

I was expecting <insert plot point here> first then back to messing with girls. Whatever, it's published in a magazine targeted to males and that it's supposed to promote a Xbox 360 game in Japan.

grandweasel
December 06, 2006, 05:11 PM
I was expecting something a bit more interesting

cravenight
December 06, 2006, 05:25 PM
Its just the second chapter, and really, with the spoilers, there could be more the just this, who knows.

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 05:53 PM
Lets see how it works out.
Guys go usually crazy when it comes to fanservice (or have you ever see me screaming in the shoujo section about the newest smutty release? >.<), so for now the subforum shields the adventure manga forums from to much chaos >.>



Exaaactly >.>

Gold Knight
December 06, 2006, 05:59 PM
And? Were you successful? :XD


I did get to know the cheerleaders, but only one really gave me any attention of that nature :p And it didn't last long, because shortly after she got back with her ex-boyfriend.



i had the same goal but since i was rubbish at football i joined the cheerleading squad. hehe, i feel like i can safely say that the bus full of cheerleaders is more enjoyable than the bus full of football players.


The funny thing is when I started playing football, I loved it so much that given a second chance at life, I probably wouldn't change a thing.

Anyway, off-topicism...

Although I wonder if Ral will grow to enjoy his adventures as a hero so much that girls won't be as much in his thoughts.... nahhh.

Kay
December 07, 2006, 06:53 AM
Ahha~~chapter1~~i found that i like Mio very much! >_<

eni
December 07, 2006, 07:07 AM
Although I wonder if Ral will grow to enjoy his adventures as a hero so much that girls won't be as much in his thoughts.... nahhh.

hm, I think he will begin to concentrate on a single girl (mio? xD) and also he said he like the outside world, so he will fight to protect this nice place.

(Or he will just stay a little jiraiya-like perv forever and just do everything fo everyone with breasts >.> ... would be not a very heroic reason, but al least it's different from other shounen^^)



Ahha~~chapter1~~i found that i like Mio very much! >_<


Welcome at MH :D

... your sig makes me feel dizzy @________@
xD

Kay
December 07, 2006, 07:18 AM
hm, I think he will begin to concentrate on a single girl (mio? xD) and also he said he like the outside world, so he will fight to protect this nice place.

(Or he will just stay a little jiraiya-like perv forever and just do everything fo everyone with breasts >.> ... would be not a very heroic reason, but al least it's different from other shounen^^)

Welcome at MH :D

... your sig makes me fell dizzy @________@
xD


>_<thank u very much~~it makes me fell dizzy too ^^

Kay
December 07, 2006, 07:26 AM
ah~~~so sexy~~so many beauties~~blue dragon has been a popular comic~ i like mio in it now>_<

manji
December 07, 2006, 07:34 AM
thanks for the spoilers and pic.

Gold Knight
December 07, 2006, 11:39 AM
Get Chapter 2 here! (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11765.0)

Translations should be forthcoming tonight at least.

'Til then and after feel free to discuss your thoughts on the chapter here.

We now also have scanlations available :luv
~eni

zindryr
December 07, 2006, 11:48 AM
Lots of information on Firsts, Seconds, Thirds, and Ral's Friend in the first couple of pages.

Mio goes to Ral's room only to find that he isn't there, and is in fact enjoying a nice warm bath with some ladies. Ral learns important lessons like taking baths with a bunch of girls feels great, and that women's breasts are different sizes depending on the woman.

Dark Queen lady has sacrifices brought to her from various countries (a lot of this will be cleared up in the translation) and she chooses one to consume so that she can take that particular shape. She then finds out that the Blue Dragon is loose, and beating up Shadows, so she tells all her minions that if they really want to be allowed to touch her body, (or something like that), they should go and kill the Blue Dragon.

Assassin shows up at the castle Ral's at, kills some people, does some standard shounen villain YOU CAN NOT DEFEAT ME, ETC, but Ral barely raises a finger, destroys him, and finds out where Obscuria is at. Mio then comes in and tells him that some people died, INCLUDING two girls. Ral is pissed that two girls were killed and he decides to go and take care of Obscuria and all her Shadows. But it's going to be a long journey, so Mio decides to go with him since she's more knowledgeable about the world. Ral is somewhat disappointed, because he wants to take the bath girls with him.

End.

Gold Knight
December 07, 2006, 12:09 PM
Haha @ the ending of the summary.

Well, I'm going to assume that anybody who comes in here has read the chapter regardless of not having an available translation, so I won't bother to spoiler-tag my responses.

But it's somewhat ironic how similar Ral's motives are to Obscuria's followers, who fight in order to be able to "touch her body" (I'm assuming be part of her), and Ral fights for the sake of all well-endowed women. Ain't he a saint.

zindryr
December 07, 2006, 12:12 PM
He's a regular patron saint of boobs.

bax
December 07, 2006, 12:15 PM
:oh I wanna be Ral ^^ He's so lucky >.>

He can get some girls just by asking ^^




He's a regular patron saint of boobs.


:D Oh my, a saint indeed ^^

cravenight
December 07, 2006, 12:57 PM
Wow, i can't believe that is the queens minions motivation, better than just fear though, ral is so lucky though, thanks for the summary. I wonder if in every chapter we will see ral fooling around with some girl.

manji
December 07, 2006, 03:09 PM
thanks for the summary. he is a natural born pervert :D

cravenight
December 07, 2006, 03:33 PM
A pervert does something to a girl that she doesn't want, if they girl want him, then he is a player.

JoJoJO
December 07, 2006, 03:34 PM
thanks for the summary. he is a natural born pervert :D


He's not a pervert, he's more of a womanizer or a man whore :p

manji
December 07, 2006, 03:45 PM
ok i'm correcting what i said. he is a natural born player. :D

eni
December 07, 2006, 03:58 PM
Thanks so much Gk and zindryr :love
I'm to busy to read atm, so I'll check back later to give my 2 cents :D

But the summary sounds not bad, hehe^^
I would like if the plot stays this simple ... the hero fights for the sake of all girls and the villians just to touch their queen bee ... the world can be so easy :amuse




he is a natural born player. :D

loool :rofl

Muk
December 07, 2006, 05:03 PM
and this isn't a seinen manga?

cravenight
December 07, 2006, 05:14 PM
Beside the groping, there isn't too much that is mature, there is no really nudity.

Magical Poof
December 07, 2006, 05:31 PM
Ral's a stud. XDDD

I must wonder what's this obession with groping. All the minions want to grope the queen... Ral wants to grope his harem....

eni
December 07, 2006, 05:45 PM
and this isn't a seinen manga?

No, that's definitly a shounen :D

ok ...
wow, that queen gaves me a shiver ... she's really scary :blink
Ral enjoys his girls ... *gnihihi* ... and gets really angry for the lost ones, eh? The upcoming journey seems to become interessting^^

Mio acts more as a teacher now. So, this chap decreases my hopes for this pairing a bit. And will it be only Ral and Mio on the road? For the classic travel-adventure, it has to be a little group, hm? So maybe we will meet their companions soon. A silent guy as old as Mio? A snappish young girl for our natural born player? :D

... and .. oh, before I forget it ..*looks at the fighting pics*.. IF Ral were a little bit more manly - even we girls would have our fanservice :amuse

jairdan6
December 07, 2006, 05:47 PM
Ral's a stud. XDDD

I must wonder what's this obession with groping. All the minions want to grope the queen... Ral wants to grope his harem....


well he's been trapped in a cocoon like thing for the past 15 years or so no? i'd imagine he hasn't developed a sense of moderation or public behavior yet. i'm kind of surprised it was so easy for him to let go of being trapped in the thing for 15 years, but i suppose he did kill his father.

DeepEyes
December 08, 2006, 01:45 AM
Thx for the summary zyndrir n_n...

kyubisharingan
December 08, 2006, 06:00 AM
Ral HAHA that lucky bastard, in the wash room with all those sexy chicks

Raijatsu
December 08, 2006, 07:21 AM
Why is Ral running around naked so much?
nevermind
The Queen is nice i thought of some strange monster but she's a beauty!
I think this manga will go on well.

cravenight
December 08, 2006, 11:26 AM
In my limited knowledge of female villians in manga, i find that female main villains are rarely very ugly or monsterous.

I would think that reason that ral is naked all the time, is that he spend all those years trap, and he was wearing clothing then, so he doesn't know better, and given what he wants to do, being naked all the time is alot less hassel than having to constantly wear and take off his clothing.

Anax
December 08, 2006, 02:28 PM
He can get some girls just by asking ^^

Who doesn't want to be a manga character if the manga is one such as Blue Dragon? :eyeroll

Seriously now (yeah right), with this manga I felt it from the first page (lying, it was when Ral ripped Mio's clothes) that it's gonna be one of my all time favorite manga's that I'll reverently read every week!! :D

P.S.: It's improper for a 20 year old to say this for a 15 year old but... Ral is my role model! :o Of course if a 220 lbs, hairy man like myself starts to walk the streets naked, randomly groping girls I have a feeling things won't go so well, but still one is allowed to dream ne? ;)

az060693
December 10, 2006, 12:53 AM
i cleaned chapter 2, its MQ, get it here http://rapidshare.com/files/6667255/blue_dragon_002_raw.zip
(i didn't clean the text, i would scanlate this, but no translation :( )[br]Posted on: December 08, 2006, 05:47:38 PM_________________________________________________woot! scanlated chapter 2, is MQ, get it here http://rapidshare.com/files/6843982/blue_dragon_002.zip

peacedrunx
December 10, 2006, 06:52 AM
thanx manXD


the queen is somewhat sick by way she motivates the shadow>.< perv. queen>.< i hope tat mio won't be suck by the queen in the long future>.< she's beautiful, intelligent.... what more the queen wants..... i guess in the long future the queen will want to get mio...>.<

eni
December 10, 2006, 03:19 PM
We now have scanlations available. Check out this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=11765.msg238146#msg238146) thread :luv

manu
December 10, 2006, 03:42 PM
I'm not that excited about the series yet... Its a very bad hentai so far. I mean seriously its already covered harems, tentacle, it used "saliva" to recreate sperm (when she starts drooling) oh and rape (first chapter, what Ral did wasn't asked for.)

Now all thats left is guro, and trust me nobody wants guro. The plot hasn't actually drawn me in yet and the comedy is all weak. I'm guessing the place where Ral is going to travel to will be the first place the author can redeem himself.

bax
December 10, 2006, 04:23 PM
Yes, it has some mature scene, but not hentai. It's just more on the matured and ecchi side.

saadku
December 11, 2006, 07:33 AM
what is Grado's mane???? can someone tell me

JoJoJO
December 11, 2006, 06:04 PM
Finally a scan his out. I didn't know Blue Dragon was trying to be henati I must have miss that.

eni
December 11, 2006, 07:08 PM
Its a very bad hentai so far.


I didn't know Blue Dragon was trying to be henati

It isn't a hentai, it's still released in a magazine aimed to male teenangers :notrust
Call it ecchi or smut or overdone-fanservice, but not hentai.



I mean seriously its already covered harems, tentacle, it used "saliva" to recreate sperm (when she starts drooling) oh and rape (first chapter, what Ral did wasn't asked for.)
what what what? :blink
Seriously, don't you think you interpret a little bit to munch into this?

mlandry
December 11, 2006, 07:45 PM
I'm not that excited about the series yet... Its a very bad hentai so far. I mean seriously its already covered harems, tentacle, it used "saliva" to recreate sperm (when she starts drooling) oh and rape (first chapter, what Ral did wasn't asked for.)


Now all thats left is guro, and trust me nobody wants guro. The plot hasn't actually drawn me in yet and the comedy is all weak. I'm guessing the place where Ral is going to travel to will be the first place the author can redeem himself.


Agreed, the first two chapters haven't impressed me at all yet... usually good mangas draw me in from the first chapter

eni
December 11, 2006, 08:29 PM
Please don't start bashing the manga @manu @mlandry

If you don't like the manga, fine. But don't post just to say that you dislike it and how bad it is. Of course, you can post criticism but please do that in a reasonable way. If you just post to moan about it, better stay out of this topic.

manu
December 12, 2006, 12:24 AM
Not trying to bash a manga, just wanted to point out some stuff I noticed...

I mean i could discuss the whole shadow system I guess. Currently I'm under the impression that Ral and Grado have the same symbiotic relationship that the Queen has with her host since the host's body never dissappears. Unless of course the Queen is her own sub catergory.

The first level shadows seem to be either really rare or really common. The monster Ral fought in the first chapter who was centipide like was a level 3 right? And the one in the second chapter was level 2 I assume, since the human had lost all will. Does that mean all the little underlings were level ones? If somebody could clarify this it would really help.

Also my theory that the queen must be the same as Grado is that her hosts stay seperate. That would indicate a level one but... I thought level ones were weak so she must be like Grado in her relationship, but she sure aint friends with her host. Ahhh i'm confusing myself.

cravenight
December 12, 2006, 01:23 AM
Eh, its kind of hard to understand with just two chapters, but for me, i don't tend to think of it as different levels of monster, i tend to think they are just different types, in which some shadows of one type are just stronger than other of that type.

Since the queen is the only on that can spawn shadows, would make her a totally different type.

zindryr
December 12, 2006, 03:11 AM
Thirds can take any shape that they want of whatever they've consumed. If, for example, they have consumed a lot of pretty girls (ala the Queen), then they can take any of those shapes. OR they can take a composite of those shapes, meaning that they can combine the best parts of each of those shapes together and use that as a single form.

Seconds only have two forms, their Shadow form and their original host form. Once a Second has consumed more creatures it becomes a Third in that it can take more forms. This is, of course, after the Second has completely taken over the original host's body and soul, leaving only the Shadow in the body.

Firsts, which is basically what Ral and Grado are, are two separate beings. A First is both the host creature AND the Shadow living simultaneously in the same body. In the case of Ral and Grado, Grado is giving his power to Ral for Ral to us.

manu
December 12, 2006, 09:42 AM
Yeah but the confusing part for me with the queen is that her hosts are always still visible. Doesn't that make them two seperate beings?

*rereads chapter* Oh Grado said the queen was invading the world in a parasitic form so I'm assuming that makes her a first.

eni
December 12, 2006, 09:53 AM
Yeah but the confusing part for me with the queen is that her hosts are always still visible. Doesn't that make them two seperate beings?
Depends on what "consume by a Third" means. It must not necessary mean, that the body of the host will be eaten or vanish.
Like the blonde girl in the second chapter was just something like a empty shell afterwards. Or like Grado said: "Bira sucks the soul orbs out of beautiful people. The victims become cripples, invalids." :blink

Ryuuga
December 12, 2006, 11:56 PM
Lol this is absolutely a change since Hikaru no Go and Death Note(almost all guys -_- cept misa <3) I always knew he could draw girls ^^
Its too bad Ral fell asleep when Mio offered to "teach" him about girls in BED in chap 1 =P

As to predicting following chaps, It'd be nice if Ral met similar types of shadows(kage?) who fights hand-in-hand with him and is a hawt chick ^^
I can forsee good hentai mangas appearing for this, There almost wasnt any hentai for HnG and DN probably cause of the lack of chicks?
Oh, the genre is probably Shounen: Action/Adventure/Ecchi(like Air Gear? But not like tenjo tenge, sadly)

*edited*
Please, stop that hentai talk already @all ~eni

Ooops...

The Touch
December 13, 2006, 03:12 AM
ラル同様に城に封印されているカゲを仲間にしようとするラル
繭から封印を解く

ラル「やっぱり全部セカンドだ」
出てきた3匹のうち2匹逃げる

ラルあっさり倒す

そしてラルの目の前にインディアンみたいなマッチョが
ラル、試す為に力比べ で、ラルぶっ倒される
ラル気にいる

名前はマレロ(カゲはゴルバゴ)
ラルは、俺と行かなくていいからこの城を守って欲しいと託す(代わりにラルの出したリスト以外の女性一人を自由にしていい)

で、残った1匹のカゲも潰すマレロ

で、なんか一人残ってた 怯える子
ラル「名前は?」
アイア「アイアアイア・・・これクルクルクルクル」
ラル「アイアか!上から読んでも下から読んでもアイア いい名だ キミ達は一緒に連れて行く!(理由は可愛いから)」

クルクル
影60マキル伸びる(グラドは9マキル) 耳とても良い 足音たてない ベロ引っ張るとスゴク喜ぶ

で、ミオ先生とアイアを連れて出発(エロコスチューム?)

かんいおわり

http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc426/th_97541_Blue_122_426lo.jpg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97541_Blue_122_426lo.jpg)http://img163.imagevenue.com/loc495/th_97542_Blue2_122_495lo.jpg (http://img163.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97542_Blue2_122_495lo.jpg)http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc484/th_97546_Blue3_122_484lo.jpg (http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97546_Blue3_122_484lo.jpg)http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc538/th_97551_Blue4_122_538lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97551_Blue4_122_538lo.jpg)

manu
December 13, 2006, 03:22 AM
So your spoilers just affirmed that there are more shadow users like Ral. thanks Touch ^^

saadku
December 13, 2006, 07:53 AM
Is ch3 out ??? So how did you get these pics???


Thanks in advance

saadku
December 13, 2006, 10:26 AM
what is Grado's mane???? can someone tell me

cravenight
December 13, 2006, 10:51 AM
What do you mean by mane exactly, the only type of mane that i know of is the horse mane, an i'm sure that not what you are talking about.

manu
December 13, 2006, 11:21 AM
Grado's mane is the gaint blade that Ral used in the first chapter. It looked more like a tail to me though.

cravenight
December 13, 2006, 03:52 PM
The Touch always his ways, one of the best providers out there. Looks to be an intresting chapter, it moving kind of fast though.

peacedrunx
December 14, 2006, 08:28 AM
thnx touch... XD i like itXD lo0ks like another great chappy..>DX

JoJoJO
December 14, 2006, 08:32 AM
It looks interesting too bad I don't know how to read Japanese :p

eni
December 14, 2006, 11:15 AM
ok, before our translators proof me wrong ...

What did I say last chapter? Two new chars - a younger girl and a older guy.
Now praise me for foreseeing this! :yelling

^^

Ayah
December 14, 2006, 11:24 AM
Nobody translated the spoiler up to now? Good to see a couple of new characters. I hope they're mainstays. I also see maid outfits :tem

Kira666
December 14, 2006, 11:58 AM
Thanks The Touch for this image!

hahaha, Ral now want cosplay girls =P

directorj
December 14, 2006, 01:26 PM
AAAAAAAARGH!!!! HE'S ONLY 15 AND HE ALREADY HAS HIS OWN HAREM! (Sorry eni, I didn't take this for a kid-friendly forum..gee, I wonder why *boobs!*)

I'm having a hard time getting adjusted to this manga, because the last thing I read with Ohba's art was Death Note, which was obviously a more intelligent manga. I'm enjoying the pretty girls, but I'm so used to his all-boy manga. I'll be happy if at least one bishounen appears in this manga and/or Ral learns some respect for women.

No pairings for Ral until he learns that there's more to women than boobs!

I guess one of the reasons why Ral likes girls so much is because he calls men his "retainers", the ones who sealed him away. Apparently he considers girls to be naturally weak, helpless, sweet, and therefore incapable of ever doing something like that to him. It'll be interesting to see if his opinions change when he meets the queen and all of the other dangerous beauties that are likely to surface on this trip.

I'm not sure if Ral is really true "hero" material. -__-; Mio-san has her work cut out for her.

zindryr
December 14, 2006, 02:48 PM
Eh, no reason to translate the spoiler really. Basically, the castle kept some other people like Ral to perhaps use as his companions, but when they opened up the things everyone was a Second pretty much. Then the other dude shows up and he and Ral fight as a test to see how strong he is, etc. Ral says that he can stay at the castle and defend it, but he has a list of girls that the guy can't touch. Also finds the other girl and decides to take her along with (because she's cute).

rhapsody blue
December 14, 2006, 03:34 PM
Do you really think the queen is the "true" villian of the manga? Grado did say that the queen changed and forced her desires on other shadows. I wonder what/who triggered this change.

Looking forward to chapter 3!

Ardus
December 14, 2006, 04:16 PM
Is it just me or does the concept of this game look extremely similar to our Blue Dragon?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/bluedragon/index.html

It looks pretty awesome regardless!

kingsenol
December 14, 2006, 04:19 PM
Are you being serieus?

Ardus
December 14, 2006, 04:21 PM
Yeah, I mean look at this picture...

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/130/927950_20060511_screen004.jpg

kingsenol
December 14, 2006, 04:27 PM
Well I already knew that and I thought everybody did, but it seems you don't. The manga is based on the blue dragon game wich was already mentioned in the jump magazine and somewhere in the blue dragon thread I think.

Ardus
December 14, 2006, 04:51 PM
o rly? That makes sense, now I want it even more.
*drools*

ssjohn
December 14, 2006, 05:22 PM
There is a manga based on the game's story line *i believe >_>* that will be running in Monthly shonen jump.

just a cool fact -- the 360 game was bundled with 360 core and it sold out >__> that shows you the power Toriyama has he can even help a dieing console *in japan*

Pevee
December 14, 2006, 09:43 PM
still, despite all the fanservice theme and everything, it's still a bit too fast, unless there's something more than just defeating the queen.

zindryr
December 14, 2006, 09:52 PM
It's not going to be a long manga. I'd be amazed if it passed the 3 volume mark, considering it was created as partial advertisement for the game.

Gold Knight
December 15, 2006, 12:10 AM
I never thought of that. Although Suikoden III is an ongoing manga series based on the game, over seven volumes at least already. But I suppose that was a direct game adaptation and this one was more of a sidestory.

Ayah
December 15, 2006, 12:20 AM
I thought the Suikoden III manga has already ended (and I like that game! Remember my Ayame avatar?). I think it wouldn't last long either, but I entertained a "what if Ral Grado is more popular than the game?" thought in my head before :D

bax
December 15, 2006, 04:40 AM
First, get your Chapter 3 here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=12080.0)


Now, you guys can freely discuss about Chapter 3 here ^^

No trans orscans yet, but we will be updating this thread as soon as they are out. Translation by Zindryr is out! Grab it here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=12126.0).
At the mean time, state your thoughts about the latest chapter ^^

Magical Poof
December 15, 2006, 07:57 AM
It looks like Ral's not the only one with a "friend" around...

Is that guy and the girl gonna join up? It looks like the girl is... Sort of. Maybe she just likes dressing up as a maid. XD

SporkNinja
December 15, 2006, 10:49 AM
Or Ral forced them to wear those outfits and do a bit of cosplaying with his armor on. Can't wait to see a translated script. That Native American guy seems interesting. The female one is a bit distant.

LightReaper
December 15, 2006, 12:33 PM
This manga is awesome!

kingsenol
December 15, 2006, 03:55 PM
I think it isnt only toriyama but also mistwalker who is pretty popular among the japanese people because the director of the new found studio mistwalker was the director of crono trigger and some other cool rpgs

ibra87
December 15, 2006, 03:59 PM
Just so you know, Blue Dragon the manga is not based on Blue dragon the game ^^

loftoo
December 15, 2006, 04:00 PM
Thx Gold Knight And The Touch hehe.....

kingsenol
December 15, 2006, 04:03 PM
I'm beginning to get irritated with the nudity in this manga. I don't find anything wrong with nudity and al but this is just to much man. This is the 3th chapter and what do we know: the enemies are shadow beast, the good guys are people that can control shadows and the girls are huge sluts that like to show their tits and asses damnn. If they would've show a naked girl once in every 20 chapters then that would be cool and al but in every chapter and not just one!
I hope the maker of this manga starts focusing on the real story of this manga because what he is showing is now is old news ---> everybody knows guys like chicks

Ayah
December 15, 2006, 04:06 PM
To add to what ibra said, Ral Grado is more like a sidestory. I have to say that because some of you might misunderstand what he was saying when he said that it wasn't based on the game.

Kyuzo
December 15, 2006, 04:43 PM
I'm beginning to get irritated with the nudity in this manga. I don't find anything wrong with nudity and al but this is just to much man. This is the 3th chapter and what do we know: the enemies are shadow beast, the good guys are people that can control shadows and the girls are huge sluts that like to show their tits and asses damnn. If they would've show a naked girl once in every 20 chapters then that would be cool and al but in every chapter and not just one!
I hope the maker of this manga starts focusing on the real story of this manga because what he is showing is now is old news ---> everybody knows guys like chicks


lol, I guess not everyone's a fan of fan service. I don't mind it much, the only part I thought was a little sketch was...better put this in spoiler tags

...when Mio offered to "show Ral what a woman is" i.e. bang him in the first chapter, then she gets all done up in her nightgown and is ready to bang him then he falls asleep, I mean Ral's like 15 and she's gotta be at least 30 since she's been teaching him since he was a baby. It's just kinda messed up. I mean you see this kind of thing in Dragon Ball with Goku and Bulma (Goku checked to see if she had a penis etc.) but she never like offered to bang him. I expected Mio to be like "ehhh! he's such a perv, don't touch me there," etc. I guess the author had this slutt personality in mind for her.

Other than that I guess the author is either (a) a pervert and wants to see all of his characters drawn in sketchy hentai ways or (b) an average author pressured by the masses of fan service loving fans to spice up his manga. I don't really mind it unless it affects the story which it hasn't thus far, other than the MioXRal crap which I mentioned above.

mushi
December 15, 2006, 05:25 PM
Question is: Why do you mind :yell =p

Great manga, enjoying this as much as i'm enjoying Fairy tale. Also, i think this just may be my first post on this forum since registration.

Anax
December 15, 2006, 06:56 PM
Hmm, have seen a few people complaining about the fan service... Well, admittedly there's lots of it, but still the way it's incorporated into the manga is so smooth that I enjoy it more than I'd enjoy, say a hentai manga. Why? Because there's story, there's nudity and somehow everything is transformed into good humour!
What this series is lacking (so far) is adventure and a sense of danger, but hey, this is only chapter 3! I hope in the future there will be more suspense in the fights and actual danger that some character will die.

Now let's wait for the translation to see what really happened, shall we? ;)

kingsenol
December 15, 2006, 07:17 PM
I don't mind fanservice, for example air gear thats a pretty good manga in my opinion wich has fan service but isnt leening to much in the direction of being a hentai manga.
Don't get me wrong I like this manga especially this first chapter were he showed his awesome powers. And the fan service in that chapter was okee. But seeing the same shit over again in chapter 2 (lady bira and her b*tches) chapter 3(the costplay half naked girls).

@mushi: the reason that I dont mind al the fan service is that I rather see real girls then drawn ones. My reason for reading manga is that its got the whole fantasy part wich they cant pull of in hollywoord movies and ofcourse the drawing style.
Ofcourse I don't mind seeing half naked or even naked chicks in mangas but I rather not have to much of it.
Like anax said this is only chapter 3 thats why I understand the lack of adventure. I'll keep my fingers crossed for more dragon action.

Kyuzo
December 15, 2006, 10:12 PM
@mushi: the reason that I dont mind al the fan service is that I rather see real girls then drawn ones. My reason for reading manga is that its got the whole fantasy part wich they cant pull of in hollywoord movies and ofcourse the drawing style.

They can pull anything off in hollywood... :P
Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Star Wars...and of course there's animation too.

Back on topic...I just read Tale 03, it was pretty good. Lots of fan service, a decent amount of action. I don't really like any of the new characters introduced this chapter, but then again the only characters I really like so far are Ral and Grado so meh...good chapter nonetheless. Now if only they'd make the game for PS3 instead of XBOX...it's just so random that they're making it for the 360 since it does so terribly in Japan and like no one there has it, especially considering its got Jump's backing with 2 mangas appearing in it and Toriyama doing the animation. Even with all the mangas and sweetness of Blue Dragon its not enough motivation for me to drop 400 bucks on a 360 when the PS3 and Wii (imo, game wise, fun wise, etc.) are better.

psychohare
December 15, 2006, 10:32 PM
wooot, firstly fan service, then a busty sensei, then a cute young onna noko and finally maid cosplay... this manga is really interesting hahaha!

kingsenol
December 15, 2006, 11:41 PM
@kyuzo: is that so? Do you think hollywood could pull of DBZ, naruto, or the coolest of them al Akira? I really don't want to see a dbz movie because I cant imagen some acter to look as cool as goku. And can you imagen goku doing a kamehameha using cg effects, that would look so ugly :S.

Back on topic. I like the look of the indian dude he looks strong. the girl on the other hand looks very weak with her cameleon looking shadow or does it only look that way because she is pulling his tongue

grandweasel
December 16, 2006, 03:56 AM
hmmmm, a bit corny, but the drawings are great...Im not a fan of lots of worthless fan service though

peace

eni
December 16, 2006, 02:51 PM
Zindryrs translation (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=12126.0) is out! :spaz

JoJoJO
December 16, 2006, 03:21 PM
People complain about too much foolishiness, this his only the third chapter.

I will give it about 15-20 chapters before I pass my judgment and say if it has too much nudity, and has little adventure and suspense.

psychohare
December 16, 2006, 08:31 PM
isit just me or do the girls look like those in Ichigo 100%?
Aya = Nishino Tsukasa
spectacled sensei = Toujou Aya

Bastille
December 17, 2006, 03:45 AM
It might just be because I spent a lot of my time around lolicon, but I sense something from the new girl and her shadow...

Shinobi96
December 18, 2006, 01:50 PM
The first thing I have to say is that the manga is well drawn. Since it is being done by the illustrator of the Death Note manga, it was to be expected that he would deliver great illustrations. It has an interesting story, a child born 15 years ago was sealed away in this sort of chamber with complete darkness, he has a shadow dragon inside of him, capable of wielding alot of power. Their castle is under attack and they have no choice but to release him. This boy is Ral. Then they give a nice explenation of how excactly this shadow concept works. I was rather surprised when he was released.

Also, this fan fic gave some fan service. Wich I was quite surprised to see, I was not expecting that at all. And that they used that as a reasoning for him to go and defeat the shadows was a bit weird. The fight scenes were just amazing. That power is just cool. One of the most impressive first chapters ever. This is a great manga.

final09
December 18, 2006, 04:24 PM
isit just me or do the girls look like those in Ichigo 100%?
Aya = Nishino Tsukasa
spectacled sensei = Toujou Aya

Hmm as I look in it more clearly, its just the faces that look similar, but the bodies don't go for nothing.

itaachi
December 18, 2006, 05:00 PM
*sigh* I have been a member of this website for like a year, and this is the first post I do here -_-. Well to make this a noobish post, when is the new chapter of Blue Dragon coming out?

jairdan6
December 18, 2006, 06:43 PM
The first thing I have to say is that the manga is well drawn. Since it is being done by the illustrator of the Death Note manga, it was to be expected that he would deliver great illustrations. It has an interesting story, a child born 15 years ago was sealed away in this sort of chamber with complete darkness, he has a shadow dragon inside of him, capable of wielding alot of power. Their castle is under attack and they have no choice but to release him. This boy is Ral. Then they give a nice explenation of how excactly this shadow concept works. I was rather surprised when he was released.

Also, this fan fic gave some fan service. Wich I was quite surprised to see, I was not expecting that at all. And that they used that as a reasoning for him to go and defeat the shadows was a bit weird. The fight scenes were just amazing. That power is just cool. One of the most impressive first chapters ever. This is a great manga.


it's not a fanfic. congratulations you can summarize.

JioFreed666
December 19, 2006, 04:17 PM
.......the side story thing I would have to say NO it's not I would have to say it's a more fresh idea(manga) then side story because in the game all the main charaters have dragons that look remotely the same in the manga olny one guy has a dragon and it sure as hell doesn't look like shinlong or shinron from DBZ or any Dragon from DQ or Blue dragon the game I belive it's the same name just different story like DQ or FF and when I say DQ or FF I mean like DQ 5 compared to DQ 8 or FF7 to FF9

JioFreed666
December 19, 2006, 04:21 PM
I LOVED THE LAST PAGE OF CHAP 3 :smile-big and I wonder if he's going to keep that bad ass armor and sword

manji
December 21, 2006, 02:37 PM
couldn't find it here so i think i should post it.
[ch04 rapidshare] (http://rapidshare.com/files/8434546/blue_dragon04.rar.html) [ch04 yousendit] (http://download.yousendit.com/D102B9125580676B)


//Thank you very much, manji :)

Lets make the offical Blue Dragon RAW Thread out of this. If you find our weekly RAW, feel free to post it here or give your thanks to our RAW providers. We will create a R/T/S- and discussion thread as soon as possible. Please don't start this threads on your own.
Thank you!
~eni

ibra87
December 21, 2006, 02:40 PM
Much appreciated, manji-kun!

eni
December 21, 2006, 04:15 PM
Much thanks to manji who provided us with ch4 RAW :luv

Three scanlations are available now and a spanish translation (sl will follow soon)! Also it seems that MangaBuzz is releasing it regulary from now on. They scanlated ch1-4.

Grap the chapter here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=12393.0) and then come back and have fun to discuss it :amuse

Cupcake
December 21, 2006, 04:29 PM
the new guy looks like an older version of Mello......