View Full Version : Team Sasuke and Naruto Vs Kisame and Pain
Kyuubinoyoko
July 20, 2010, 04:21 PM
Sasuke and Naruto vs Kisame and 6th paths of Pain
Sasuke has all abilities shown up until the most recent chapter(no curse mark, only mangekyou abilities and all other abilities shown)
Naruto has all abilities shown and full control of kyuubis power
no other restrictions
Mindset: Bloodlusted
Battleground: Uchiha Clan Hideout
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ninjabot
July 20, 2010, 05:43 PM
If they're all bloodlusted, and neither Sasuke nor Naruto know of Pein's abilities...then Akatsuki take it. Naruto's SM, nor Sasuke's Susanoo can take a jutsu that can destroy an entire village, simple as.
Kisame could be taken out however. But it'll take some rediculous plot enduced stupidity for Pein to lose this one.
Th3 JoK3R J
July 26, 2010, 02:12 AM
How could Kisame be taken out when he have Samehada with him he'll just regenerate
ninjabot
July 26, 2010, 06:32 PM
There's no telling how lethal of an injury he could repair. I sincerely doubt he can repair a decapitated head. Or if he's cut completely in two.
chitilinLasagne
July 26, 2010, 06:42 PM
Don't forget that one of the criteria of this bout is that Naruto has full control of kyuubi chackra, that easily equals or trumps both of Peins major techs. Add to the fact that Pein has a weakness against genjutsu, or at least sound based genjutsu. Kisame also was shown to have a limitation of 6 tails that can be absorbed. No
Th3 JoK3R J
July 27, 2010, 05:47 PM
I highly doubt Kisame would get decapitated in any way.
All of Naruto techniques is useless against Kisame also Sasuke Raiton n possibly Katon too. He'll have to rely on amatersu n Sasunoo
But really all six pains together,Sasuke Amatersu n Sasunoo aint nuthin to the pains they feel no pain whats fire gonna to them what make them scream in "pain".
Sasuke activates sasunoo Deva path slams his ass to the ground (yes Sasunoo can't stop that) while Asura path goes over and pull off some Raikage through his sasunoo crap with a straight up missile aiming to face sasuke,but puts him tsukoyomi after all that Sasuke shocked that Asura path is competley uneffected boom sasuke dead Asuara goes in Outer Path mouth out fine.
while all of this was happening Animal Path, Kisame,Peta Path,Human Path to deal with Naruto.
While Naruto having full control of Kyuubi but "never shown fully having control" im going to do two scenarios on Naruto in full 9T mode n in Full human form 9T.
Human form 9T vs Kisame= Kisame wins =P we all know why
9T full form vs Animal Path animals n Kisame= Animal path n Kisame wins
Animal path releasing huge animals against 9T to occupy it long enough for Kisame to release his massive Water dome over the whole 9T uknowing to 9T Kisame fused with Samehada is chopping away at his chakra making Kisame stronger taking more charkra forces Naruto out of full form with his massive strength now he finishes Naruto.
I don't know how the fight will go if Naruto was only just in sage mode.
Destined_One
July 27, 2010, 07:08 PM
The conditions are void. We have no clue how powerful Naruto is with the full power of the Kyuubi, nor Sasuke with EMS. It's possible they will both succeed Pain as the strongest characters we have seen, and I stress "seen".
Sasuke IMO is getting close to Pain. I mean the guy controls an inextinguishable flame, which can burn fire itself, like Gaara does Sand. There is a reason why Danzou needed multiple lives. He also hasn't had the chance to use Susanoo at its full capacity from the beginning of a battle. With the removal of his blindness, and what ever ability EMS grants him, he dwarfs anything his brother has shown, even with the hype.
As for Naruto, well in Sage Mode, he is just as strong as Kirabi/Raikage/Tsunade, and compares well speed wise against the very fastest ninja's we have seen. Besides the obvious Raikage/Minato due to the uniqueness of both their abilities. Id love to know how Kisame would defend, let alone heal himself from a giant rasengan barrage. Now for a second imagine him being buffed by the strongest bijuu in existence (This is a keyword, because currently the Juubi doesn't exist). Even with half its chakra, it punctured a village size planet like it was cracking egg shells. Even the four tailed blast seemed more impressive than the full powered blast from the Hachibi. Its no secret there is an obvious gap in power between the Kyuubi and the rest. I think the fact Mito had to seal the Kyuubi within herself to help Hashirama, is proof that not even he, someone who could control tailed beasts like they were his pets could defeat it.
I have a feeling that once these two are revealed in their eventual match up, the threads with Pain versus multiple fighters, will switch from one of these two versus multiples opponents. However, If Nagato can literally control life/death, then hes just cheating.
Th3 JoK3R J
July 27, 2010, 08:28 PM
Id love to know how Kisame would defend, let alone heal himself from a giant rasengan barrage.
Umm Having 8TK human form ramming Kisame in the chest revealing his rib cage isn't convincing enough of how much dmg. he can take. xD
Destined_One
July 27, 2010, 08:53 PM
Umm Having 8TK human form ramming Kisame in the chest revealing his rib cage isn't convincing enough of how much dmg. he can take. xD
Hundreds of chou odama rasengans, would likely reduce Kisame to a puddle of mush, not just reveal his rib cage.
mr.danly
July 27, 2010, 10:15 PM
well the main criteria here is whether or not Sasuke and Naruto know the abilities of Pain beforehand. If so, they'd pretty handily defeat Pain and Kisame. Kisame can't do much against the destructive power of amaterasu. You can't regenerate from a pile of ash, and I seriously doubt that Samehada could just eat it up. Pain was defeated by Naruto one on one, although Pain had used up a significant amount of chakra. If Naruto could control the Kyuubi's chakra as well, I don't think Pain would win.
This is all dependent, however, on whether or not they know the abilties of Pain. If they didn't know, they'd probably get raped.
vizardichigo
July 27, 2010, 10:44 PM
IMHO Pain > all..Well Nagato > all...Pain may not be as strong as a full strength Nagato but i think Naruto beat him because he is the star. The final blow was totally unbvelieveable as even though he couldnt use Shinra Tensei he saw it coming from like 50 yards...Once the Rinnegan sees someone shouldnt the user be able to avoid contact with it like with Jiraya??? So in a fair world Pain would beat Naruto but thats just me. Sasuke vs Kisame is a toss up but ill give it to Sasuke...Leaving Pain and Sasuke to battle it out, Pain would win the battle and take victory for his team...Thats my opinion
Th3 JoK3R J
July 28, 2010, 12:42 AM
I don't know many Rasengans Kisame can absorb to reduce the dmg. on him also what makes you think Naruto rasengan would so effective in Kisame water dome?
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The battle situation i made up there is part of the paths can handle Sasuke n the other paths n Kisame can handle Naruto with the rite match-up pair Kisame n paths are victories.
Yea i think Amaterasu would penetrate Kisame water dome and make it steam out but would it hit Kisame? Sasuke can forget about his lightning techs the pain would just absorb it.
Destined_One
July 28, 2010, 05:29 AM
I don't know many Rasengans Kisame can absorb to reduce the dmg. on him also what makes you think Naruto rasengan would so effective in Kisame water dome?
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The battle situation i made up there is part of the paths can handle Sasuke n the other paths n Kisame can handle Naruto with the rite match-up pair Kisame n paths are victories.
Yea i think Amaterasu would penetrate Kisame water dome and make it steam out but would it hit Kisame? Sasuke can forget about his lightning techs the pain would just absorb it.
My first post basically agrees with you. I admit that Sage Naruto and MS Sasuke, would struggle versus Pain & Kisame, because the six paths are so versatile, and possess so many deadly abilities. However, how strong are Naruto & Sasuke currently, considering they both just received further power ups. That is an unknown quantity.
Th3 JoK3R J
July 28, 2010, 03:26 PM
Yea your right with Sasuke he still gonna have the same fighting abilities it's just now he can spam the hell out of his Sharingan techniques now without any worries. But Naruto on the other hand gonna have full control n be just like KB and 2Tk but stronger.
Naruto having full control in human 9TK mode with that control now he can be a sage9TK mode with his rasengan would be OP
Delbi
July 28, 2010, 11:05 PM
Without knowing what Naruto's new powers are, theres no way to tell what would happen. If this was the Naruto that fought Pain, then he and Sasuke get murdered quite frankly. Kisame would create the water dome and they'd both be in huge trouble. Pain would make it so neither of them could escape it, and if they did they would be too weak to fight Pain off.
Raizen
August 06, 2010, 08:59 PM
Kisame is quite powerful, but i'd say both naruto and sasuke currently can beat him, at least by a small margin. Until I see what naruto can do, Pein is still stronger than all of them.
But in this fight, naruto will be too busy trying to protect sasuke. Pein doesn't care about kisame. He will take out kisame to get the other 2 if he has too. Pein is a powerhouse. People fail to forget that.
But w/ what naruto has just shown, he has become a huge powerhouse as well. For now i will hold out on my opinion
ninjabot
August 07, 2010, 07:24 PM
Unless Naruto's new found speed allows him to run the whole distance of a village in a split second he's NOT escaping Chou Shinra Tensei.
6tk endured and repelled Shinra Tensei, but it wasn't the full power, city-buster version. I don't see Rikudou tanking that version.
stephen80
August 08, 2010, 08:34 PM
naruto take out kisame in one blow using ssj naruto mode, then both naruto and sasuke can take care of pain who doesn't stand a chance
LnDRash
August 09, 2010, 09:21 AM
naruto take out kisame in one blow using ssj naruto mode, then both naruto and sasuke can take care of pain who doesn't stand a chance
If a blow to his back which came absolutely by surprise didnt take him out what makes you think Naruto can oneshot him when he's actually prepared to defend himself and fight back?
That cockroach form dosnt even have arms ffs... -.-
Raizen
August 09, 2010, 07:07 PM
If a blow to his back which came absolutely by surprise didnt take him out what makes you think Naruto can oneshot him when he's actually prepared to defend himself and fight back?
That cockroach form dosnt even have arms ffs... -.-
U also failed to consider that naruto was not used to his new powers. If he was used to it, kisame would have been KO'ed by that attack.
Pain is so powerful that even w/ naruto and sasuke teaming up against him, it would still be a good match
stephen80
August 10, 2010, 04:47 PM
U also failed to consider that naruto was not used to his new powers. If he was used to it, kisame would have been KO'ed by that attack.
Exactly, moreover if he could use sage mode at the same time that would be epic, no chance kisame would survive that.
Pain is so powerful that even w/ naruto and sasuke teaming up against him, it would still be a good match
hmmm to that point, if both naruto and sasuke team up, i don't see pain win this, though pain vs naruto or pain vs sasuke, pain would have the upper hand.
Raizen
August 10, 2010, 07:50 PM
^^ The thing is, pein's body works in complete sync. Their teamwork is impeccable. naruto and sasuke, while they may be teammates, their combo skills aren't as great as pein.
Pein can just use deva pein absorb in sasuke then have fat pein absorb all of sasuke's chakra and sasuke would be done.
stephen80
August 10, 2010, 08:27 PM
i don't think sasuke would be stupid enough to let deva pain suck up all his chakra, at least if naruto and sasuke cooperate, they can use naruto's kbs to see the enemy abilities, ofc if they go head on they're done for
Raizen
August 10, 2010, 08:29 PM
i don't think sasuke would be stupid enough to let deva pain suck up all his chakra, at least if naruto and sasuke cooperate, they can use naruto's kbs to see the enemy abilities, ofc if they go head on they're done for
It is not about being stupid. He can't do anything if he is caught. Naruto who had enhanced strength from SM still couldn't break free of fat pein. His only choice was to send of nature energy to turn fat pein to a rock. Sasuke doesn't have anything that can help him do that
stephen80
August 10, 2010, 08:41 PM
It is not about being stupid. He can't do anything if he is caught. Naruto who had enhanced strength from SM still couldn't break free of fat pein. His only choice was to send of nature energy to turn fat pein to a rock. Sasuke doesn't have anything that can help him do that
well if he get caught he could still use susano, or somehow use amaterasu before his chakra disappear, the question would be can deva pain absorb susano and amaterasu, I do believe he can since susano is made of chakra and I highly believe amaterasu aswell, well the only way is to care of deva pain first
Raizen
August 10, 2010, 08:57 PM
I don't see how either of them would help. If susanoo tried to attack fat pein, he would hit sasuke too. And sasuke must face fat pein to use amaretsu. Even then, he can still absorb it
Darth Executor
August 14, 2010, 08:01 PM
Without knowing what Naruto's new powers are, theres no way to tell what would happen. If this was the Naruto that fought Pain, then he and Sasuke get murdered quite frankly. Kisame would create the water dome and they'd both be in huge trouble. Pain would make it so neither of them could escape it, and if they did they would be too weak to fight Pain off.
Sasuke could keep the water back with susanoo. If he can let naruto inside susanoo he'll be even better off. Even if he can't, naruto could rasengan the water away and give sasuke enough time to genjutsu kisame (kurenai caught him in it so I don't see why sasuke couldn't) and get him to drop the water dome.
I do think that if pain and kisame coordinate well they'll take them both. Shinra tensei, fat pain and kisame can eat nearly any jutsu sasuke and naruto can throw at them and shinra tensesi will also have the benefit of keeping them out of taijutsu range. I think it would be only a matter of time before they're both outmaneuvered and kisame sucks out their chakra or pain chakra rods them into submission.
mattiaildivino
October 10, 2011, 01:38 PM
sasuke in 9 tails mode can defeat pain,and he can summon some toads to be helped. sasuke with mangekyou sharingan is stronger than kisame for speed,illusion,amaterasu and susanoo. the 2 win.
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