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shlowbro
August 06, 2010, 08:19 PM
Naruto's only used the awesome Senin Mode in one battle and now it seems like it'll take a back seat to the even more awesome Kyubi Mode. I really wish Kishi would have given Naruto's Senin Mode more action before getting this new power....
gnut
August 06, 2010, 10:47 PM
he made a comment about the chakra being put up until he uses it.so more than likely we will see more sage mode until he gains full control.
SenninSage
August 06, 2010, 11:08 PM
How will it take a back seat? If anything, it's still the ultimate trump card because it can take any chakra out there and then further strengthen it with natural energy, creating senjutsu chakra.
Imagine what Senjutsu chakra created from Naruto's new Rikudou Cloak will be like?
THM Nindo
August 07, 2010, 03:14 AM
We already saw that he was able to combine Kyubbi-mode with Sage-Mode, so I'm pretty sure we will see some combinaison of Rikudou-Mode and Sage-Mode.
Also... as far as we know, Rikudou-Mode only gives him more chakra and that's all...
He can use that chakra to boost its speed, ninjutsu, etc.
But, what we've seen with Sage Mode (extreme strenght, damage resistence, etc) was not seen yet with Rikudo-Mode.
Hell, maybe he still can only do FRS in Sage-Mode, and he can't in Rikudou-Mode for some reason...
Sage-Mode is certainly not over!
Echoes of Thunder
August 07, 2010, 06:34 AM
Well, I believe we will see a fusion between Senjutsu and Naruto's Jinchuriki form in the future; it was already hinted at during the battle with Nagato that the two chakras could feasibly be mixed. Plus, Senjutsu is necessary for using the complete Rasenshuriken, as it requires natural energy to hold it together when thrown. So unless Kishi intends to have Naruto stop using his most powerful technique, a fusion is likely.
kingplaya(minato)
August 07, 2010, 07:18 AM
powering up quickly isnt happening at all, we all knew naruto would get damn stronger after getting kyuubi... how about sasuke barely using MS and just upgrading 2 EMS?(granted he used it 4 one or two more fights than naruto used senjustu)
Alterno
August 07, 2010, 07:43 AM
He isn't powering up too fast, most of his power ups always had a training before than it could happen, it took him almost a year before he could use sennin modo in action about 16 chapters before we saw sennin modo in action.
NAM61
August 07, 2010, 12:25 PM
he is not powering up to fast and will not lose sage mode he will mix both modes together
juUnior
August 07, 2010, 01:18 PM
Naruto's only used the awesome Senin Mode in one battle and now it seems like it'll take a back seat to the even more awesome Kyubi Mode. I really wish Kishi would have given Naruto's Senin Mode more action before getting this new power....
I don't think it will take a back seat. I think it will still be used, especially if it means for the battle with Sasuke. I can even portray scenario where Sasuke manages to suppress the "new form" of Naruto <don't ask me why xd>, he tells Naruto he wins, Naruto already gathered Senjutsu chakra and goes into SM and punches Sasuke telling him: that's not all I got.
And not to mention the thing which was mentioned <:p>: SM + KM = fusion of those powers.
So, yeah, SM will be used, whether in fusion form or as an alternate power source, which comes from the outside <it can be really a trump card against Sasuke, who can think of Naruto as really super strong by just being a jinchuuriki and haven't got anything "on their own" ^^ I'm not bashing Sasuke, just saying my idea xd>
Exodi
August 07, 2010, 04:07 PM
Considering how long it took for Naruto understand how Kage Bunshin worked, I'm perfectly fine with the recent power-ups he's gotten.
stephen80
August 08, 2010, 09:05 PM
I agree, naruto hasn't even mastered the sage mode that he got another mode, well I hope at least will still use sage mode, and not over use kyubi mode, it feels like naruto will somehow lose kyubi, the fact that kushina survived even after having kyubi extracted for her, could mean naruto would be able to do just as well since he's her kid.
Naruto could also use the 2 mode at the same time and being even stronger, well that would be cheating tho, just seeing how fast he is now in QB mode, with QB/sage mode on that would be too big
BladeX69
August 09, 2010, 12:47 AM
I agree, naruto hasn't even mastered the sage mode that he got another mode
you are absolutely wrong. naruto has completely mastered sage mode. the only drawback he has with technique is, not being able to fuse with ma and pa who help draw natuaral chakra. he has mastered it to the level beyond Jiraiya and has achieved ture dage mode.
blaise
August 09, 2010, 09:01 AM
you are absolutely wrong. naruto has completely mastered sage mode. the only drawback he has with technique is, not being able to fuse with ma and pa who help draw natuaral chakra. he has mastered it to the level beyond Jiraiya and has achieved ture dage mode.
Agree. Naruto's powerups 'need' each other. Thats how kishi is building up naruto. He gets kagebunshin, uses kb to complete rasengan, uses kb and rasengan to complete rasenshuriken, rasenshuriken damages him in normal mode so he uses kb to learn sagemode so that he can apply rasenshuriken safely. Sage mode has a few issues that need to be worked out, lo and behold a rikudou mode appears. We all know whats likely to happen next based on this pattern.
Sage mode isn't going anywhere. Rs mode has appeared to perfect sennin mode utterly. Kishi is building up naruto solidly and completely. Nothing rushed abt this. Every single thing naruto has ever learned or acquired is being used to build an ultimate form:)
jiraiyanindo
August 09, 2010, 11:39 AM
How will it take a back seat? If anything, it's still the ultimate trump card because it can take any chakra out there and then further strengthen it with natural energy, creating senjutsu chakra.
Imagine what Senjutsu chakra created from Naruto's new Rikudou Cloak will be like?
I agree with the post. Sage mode has various advantages that no other ninja in this manga has. An example is doing frog katas, expanding the range of his taijutsu attacks, etc. Sage mode is a balancing of your physical, spiritual, and natural energies.
http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=Naruto/Naruto%20c409/11.png&server=nas.html
I think since Naruto has greater physical and spiritual energies due to taming the kyuubi chakra, he will need to draw in greater amounts of narutal energy to preserve the balance between the three for sage mode. This will lead to an enhanced version of sage mode that he will be able to sustain for longer amounts of time with a devastating increase in power. Naruto is on his way to becoming ultra hax when he puts sage mode with his newly acquired kyuubi chakra. Obviously, Sasuke's EMS will still blow him away. In every Shonen Manga, the protagonist has to enter the battle against his rival weaker than him so that he can attain a mystical power up during battle. So no matter how strong Naruto becomes, he will enter the final battle against Sasuke with a disadvantage so that the 'Will of Fire' can be his ultimate powerup which will defeat Sasuke Chan. Those are my two cents.
stephen80
August 09, 2010, 02:05 PM
you are absolutely wrong. naruto has completely mastered sage mode. the only drawback he has with technique is, not being able to fuse with ma and pa who help draw natuaral chakra. he has mastered it to the level beyond Jiraiya and has achieved ture dage mode.
yeah you're right, naruto did master the sage mode, what I really mean is that it's not been long since he learned and used it properly only 1 time, I would like to know how he will use it then since he controls now QB, will he summon the 2 toads or will he use hidden KBs. I just love the sage mode, and wouldn't like that naruto doesn't use it anymore.
Drmke
August 10, 2010, 01:24 AM
Its been foreshadowed for quite some time that Naruto would gain full control over the Kyuubi. And since the Fourth Great Ninja War is approaching and the ending to the manga is drawing near, he is going to need the Kyuubi power as an ace when he inevitably goes head-to-head with Sasuke again and probably Madara as well.
3c
August 10, 2010, 05:33 AM
I very much believe Naruto is powering up too fast, with other words Naruto didn't do enough with Sage Mode alone before he got other powers into the mixture. The reason why he's doing that is because Kishi messed up his storyline, honestly. If something happened in between the Invasion arc and Kage Summit arc, it would have been easier for Kishi to showcase Naruto's Sage Mode abilities more than one time before the next power up. Because Naruto's lack of "Sage Mode fights" is what makes it seem rushed, not the amount of chapters to be honest.
Naruto has used Sage Mode several times outside of battle post-Pain. Once for tracking purposes and once for training IIRC. He also fought once more with Sage Mode when fighting Kyuubi. This can count as a fight, but to me the fight was too short to really be "another Sage Mode fight", but it does count for something. To me it would have been perfect had Naruto fought ONE more real opponent before getting another power up, but since he fought Kyuubi with it I'm partly satisfied. His Kyuubi power up came at an expected time really so it's not like we didn't know this would happen, still it doesn't mean I'm fully satisfied just because it was predictable. Is Naruto powering up too fast? Yes, a little.
Akasunanosasori
August 10, 2010, 06:12 AM
I think that he will be able to use it even better now that he can control the kyuubi.
jsing992
August 10, 2010, 06:58 AM
Sure, Naruto may be powering up too fast...but why does everyone assume that he's going to automatically default to using the Kyuubi chakra?
Sure, he may have a lot of different powerful techniques (Sage Mode + Kyuubi chakra and whatever abilities it may grant him), but does he automatically have to use them? No. To me, it seems appropriate that he'll use it for this fight against Kisame, as he just got new powers and now it's time to test 'em out.
The extent of the abilities that he gains from the Kyuubi chakra is unknown, and in several aspects it may be inferior to Sage/Nature chakra. Sure, Naruto gained the ability to detect hatred (or whatever you want to call it), but that doesn't mean that he has the same sort of sensory/chakra detecting abilities like he does using Sage Mode, nor have we seen any sort of proof that Naruto can mix Sage/Nature chakra with Kyuubi chakra and create some crazy new "God Mode". They're just theories right now.
To me, Naruto strikes me as the sort of person who would use his powers progressively or swap between them all as the fight dictates. I can't see him ignoring Sage Mode and going directly for the Kyuubi chakra, nor can I see neglecting to use his own chakra just because the Kyuubi or Sage/Nature chakras are "better". They're all very different and I think he's going to use them all for different purposes and with different strategies.
Right now, it's way too early to tell:
-The extent of the abilities/power he has from the Kyuubi chakra
-How he's going to use it in battle / how long he can use it
-If there are any negatives to using Kyuubi chakra
-If the Kyuubi chakra grants him better sensory abilities than Sage Mode
-If he is going to neglect Sage Mode for Kyuubi chakra
-If he is going to try to mix Sage/Nature and Kyuubi chakra
Right now, it's way too early to tell how things are going, after all, we've only seen one chapter (not counting when he sealed the Kyuubi). All he did in that one chapter was detect Kisame's presence and use high speed movement...and yet suddenly Naruto is a "God" / SSJ / over-powered / whatever you want to call it.
As fun as theories/discussions are, I say we wait and see how the next several chapters go before we start with all of the assumptions.
jm
August 10, 2010, 08:51 AM
i will say this for all the power he now has naruto know he has like what five jutsu.
he need to learn more wind jutsu. look at what danzo could do.
also he is fighting a guy he becomes nearly invincible and whose biggest weakness just got axed thank to itachi's eyes.
so no.
Xsoteria
August 10, 2010, 01:22 PM
It's true that he is powering up a bit too fast for my liking, but I don't think that he will stop using SM or that this new mode will make his fights lose dynimics.
hanswc
August 10, 2010, 01:57 PM
the powerups are realy to fast, it´s like DBZ back than. the other char´s havn´t any chance againt naruto or sasuke. sasuke and naruto get´s to big powerups. sasuke has the best defense and a unbeliveable attack (the arrow) and know he gets a special ability. with naruto it´s the same, know he is unbeliveable strong, only sasuke can fight him. the sage mode was realy good, because the mode has a limit. but know with the kyuubi he has an unlimit power and get´s whitout any training sunshin jutos ( i hat this realy). it would been better if he focus on his wind element chakra and make little steps up and dont get such a power up without training. in the moment i dont like the way of the story.
Roflkopt3r
August 10, 2010, 02:01 PM
It's a pity that he and Sasuke advance at this kind of speed, not too long ago they were at a quite measurable level and almost comparable to normal human beeings at least. Now they transform and make themselves invulnerable and ignite everything and so on, that's somewhat of a change... A bit too fast, truly.
Oathencrantz
August 10, 2010, 02:32 PM
I don't know if Naruto and Sasuke are powering up too fast or not, but I enjoyed the days when you could make threads like;
Sasuke vs Kimimaro
Naruto vs Kakuzu
Sasuke vs Neji
Naruto vs Gaara
Sasuke vs Gaara
Sasuke vs Sasori
.....and not seem ridiculous.
I don't know if the right word is 'sad' but it would seem the general consensus is that not even beasts like Ae, Killer Bee, Tsunade, Kakashi, Kisame, Gai or Terumi Mei can hang with these 16 year olds.
ninjabot
August 10, 2010, 04:43 PM
Yeah, he's powering up too fast. But before blaming my reasoning on the fact that I dislike Naruto, let me say that Sasuke is getting powerful too fast aswell.
The more powerful the characters become, the less likely we're gonna see a fight that takes strategy or has that genuine feeling that the win can go either way. Just jutsu spam followed by DBZ style craters and eventually an "I'll never give up!" speech. Just look at Minato vs. Madara. If you didn't know who those two characters were, nothing in that fight would have made anyone think Madara or Minato were more than just two average ninja with super hax jutsu.
Naruto and Sasuke need something outside of jutsu to cement their status as greatest ninja of their generation.
NAM61
August 10, 2010, 07:30 PM
I very much believe Naruto is powering up too fast, with other words Naruto didn't do enough with Sage Mode alone before he got other powers into the mixture. The reason why he's doing that is because Kishi messed up his storyline, honestly. If something happened in between the Invasion arc and Kage Summit arc, it would have been easier for Kishi to showcase Naruto's Sage Mode abilities more than one time before the next power up. Because Naruto's lack of "Sage Mode fights" is what makes it seem rushed, not the amount of chapters to be honest.
Naruto has used Sage Mode several times outside of battle post-Pain. Once for tracking purposes and once for training IIRC. He also fought once more with Sage Mode when fighting Kyuubi. This can count as a fight, but to me the fight was too short to really be "another Sage Mode fight", but it does count for something. To me it would have been perfect had Naruto fought ONE more real opponent before getting another power up, but since he fought Kyuubi with it I'm partly satisfied. His Kyuubi power up came at an expected time really so it's not like we didn't know this would happen, still it doesn't mean I'm fully satisfied just because it was predictable. Is Naruto powering up too fast? Yes, a little.
i also wanted to see another fight for naruto in sage mode. he only had one and he was new at it. maybe we will see him use it solely again but who knows there are not much villains around anymore. naruto had a good chance to showcase sage mode again during the kage meeting by having naruto face against zetsu at least. but kishi seems he does not want to have naruto fight many fights. he has only had one fight in part 2. i don't really mind the power ups this is a shonen manga the powers always inflate as the manga goes on. and kishi has said he was a DB fan so it was expected to see over board powers near the end. but naruto just needed for fights to showcase the true potential of his jutsus.
jm
August 10, 2010, 08:04 PM
sasuke after the death of itachi was looking really strong then he met killer bee and nearly died.
so i am not going to go with sasuke and naruto are beyond everyone now.
some people are bad match ups for them. kisame is still i great fighter to take on killer bee and naruto. sasuke probably has a great advantage if he was fighting one of the kages but another would destroy him.
in naruto match ups mean a lot.
Revolation
August 10, 2010, 08:45 PM
Agree. Naruto's powerups 'need' each other. Thats how kishi is building up naruto. He gets kagebunshin, uses kb to complete rasengan, uses kb and rasengan to complete rasenshuriken, rasenshuriken damages him in normal mode so he uses kb to learn sagemode so that he can apply rasenshuriken safely. Sage mode has a few issues that need to be worked out, lo and behold a rikudou mode appears. We all know whats likely to happen next based on this pattern.
Sage mode isn't going anywhere. Rs mode has appeared to perfect sennin mode utterly. Kishi is building up naruto solidly and completely. Nothing rushed abt this. Every single thing naruto has ever learned or acquired is being used to build an ultimate form:)
^ this because it makes alot of sense.
it also seems people are mixing up hiraishin(flying thunder god) to shunsin(body flicker).
they aren't the same thing, naruto used shunshin before. it's just that killer bee compared it to the yellow flash in a rap song this chapter that has people thinking naruto suddenly learned hiraishin. ;)
elitefox
August 10, 2010, 11:02 PM
Well Naruto's growth did a halt/slowed through 2 1/2 years.
It may be rapid now because he hasn't been developed in 2 1/2 years but instead he is being develop now through training arcs.
Sasuke powered up through 2 1/2 years as we have seen and then halt then get oro then get ms then halt again and at this stage what did naruto get? incomplete FRS and kage bunshin secret. I would have laugh at his development but still...
he has the unlimited potential but until exploited like what is happening now.
and on the counterpart, Sasuke has a limited huge potential through ms but thats it, unlock ms then no more growth.
TeamSeven
August 11, 2010, 01:37 AM
I believe what you will see happen is Naruto combine the two into something nobody has ever seen before - even from the RS.
Remember: Sage chakra has to be in balance with the other chakra and spirit.
The limitation of taking in Sage chakra while moving stems from not being able to keep from taking in too much.
But that is for ppl with normal chakra.
I think the huge reserve of pure life energy chakra .... balancing basically as much sage chakra as Naruto can take .. will open up a new form. Not just constant sage mode ... but a unity with the energy of the living world.
Can you say ... Hirashin without the need for seals?
Ramstain
August 11, 2010, 02:31 AM
Well think about it, if the way Naruto conquered the Kyuubi is the same as how KB conquered the 8 tails, surely Naruto still has a kyuubi consciousness somewhere in there that he can interact with. one that ISNT an asshat.
If that is the case, then surely the kyuubi can gather natural chakra while feeding it and its own to Naruto. Its not like the kyuubi has to move or anything.
ScarletMoon
August 11, 2010, 08:35 AM
O RLY, Naruto is powering up too fast in a literal sense this is true. He is only sixteen years old and as powerful as Killerbee, Raikage the latter who is well past his middle-ages. However, in the story point of view he isn't. Remember Sasuke is Naruto rival, and before this Kyuubi power up Sasuke was well ahead in terms of power-ups, so this one was definitely needed. Also, we are on chapter 505 by now the main character should be strong, and Kishi is wrapping up the story so this new power-up definitely makes sense.
Tahl
August 11, 2010, 09:01 AM
My only issue is that Naruto unlike say bleach did a good job of keeping a natural evolution to Naruto-verse powers.
Jiraya for example went Rasengan to Giant rasengan,
Naruto Rasengan, Rasen-Shurikan etc
It's now looking worryingly like these new powers simply supercede the old ones, and remember we have only really seen Naruto fight in Sage mode once and already he seems to have something new and better....
ShiShi-O
August 11, 2010, 09:06 AM
why is it everytime naruto gets a downgrade people say he got a power up?
this naruto is definitively weaker than 5+ tailed naruto/kyubi (well until i see him destroy the landscape anyway)
Roflkopt3r
August 11, 2010, 10:03 AM
why is it everytime naruto gets a downgrade people say he got a power up?
this naruto is definitively weaker than 5+ tailed naruto/kyubi (well until i see him destroy the landscape anyway)
Definitly? You seem very certain of this, yet we haven't seen much of anything. He gave Kisame a killer punch, but he's a guy who would certainly live through some five-tail-beating as well. Also we've seen remarkable speed, likely to be way faster than five tailed Naruto.
Apart from that, there is no info about his strength and speed so your early judgement seems rash to me.
SharpKnives
August 11, 2010, 11:32 AM
QB cloak was seriously lame. The one I prefer is tha one he fought oro and pain with. I think we may have lost the only chance at seeing interesting Naruto fights. Cause we all can agree naruto only knows three moves but Kyuubi does alot more.
With this cloak all I expect to see him do is sense things zip around and rasengan things. Where does Kyuubi come in at all. Will naruto even get the ability to resist the sharigan.
katon_style
August 11, 2010, 12:20 PM
if we compare the distance from pain arc until now yes of course the power up is too fast compared with the entire episodes of shippuden and i agree with the topic starter according on manga but in the anime kishi will surely put dozens of fillers after pain arc and we will see naruto perfectly mastering SM
shlowbro
August 11, 2010, 11:09 PM
I think with Sasuke, we got to see his MS's limits (ie. battle vs Killer Bee and against the Kages and Danzou) which forced him to want to get stronger.
With Naruto, we really haven't seen SM been taken to the limit (Think DBZ when Vegeta and Trunks got their asses handed to them in SS1 form by the Androids and were forced to get stronger.) Naruto's power-ups would be better served after another time skip if he hasn't encountered such a dilemma IMO.
ashher
August 12, 2010, 02:07 AM
My only issue is that Naruto unlike say bleach did a good job of keeping a natural evolution to Naruto-verse powers.
Jiraya for example went Rasengan to Giant rasengan,
Naruto Rasengan, Rasen-Shurikan etc
It's now looking worryingly like these new powers simply supercede the old ones, and remember we have only really seen Naruto fight in Sage mode once and already he seems to have something new and better....
about the bold part,i think its more accurate to say that he has something new and different....something that's better in some cases,while sage mode is better in other cases.
to make my meaning clearer,i would go on to predict that 9t mode is better when speed and sealing is the order of the day.but when its ninjutsu and taijutus sage mode is still the one (rasenshuriken, extending body reach in frog katas).
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if we compare the distance from pain arc until now yes of course the power up is too fast compared with the entire episodes of shippuden and i agree with the topic starter according on manga but in the anime kishi will surely put dozens of fillers after pain arc and we will see naruto perfectly mastering SM
no,we were getting prepared for this latest power-up (controlling 9t) since the very start of manga...you can't just take the recent things in calculation and leave the rest.
learing sage mode was a quicker job in comparsion,still it was presented in an acceptable manner.
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I think with Sasuke, we got to see his MS's limits (ie. battle vs Killer Bee and against the Kages and Danzou) which forced him to want to get stronger.
With Naruto, we really haven't seen SM been taken to the limit (Think DBZ when Vegeta and Trunks got their asses handed to them in SS1 form by the Androids and were forced to get stronger.) Naruto's power-ups would be better served after another time skip if he hasn't encountered such a dilemma IMO.
yap i agree with you in the basics....and its not just sage mode,its true for wind element as well. sm,wind,9t and recent sealings....naruto is given a lot of raw resources,and i would've preferred to see him using them more ingeniously. i am not necessarily talking about new jutsus,rather just more cleverer use of them in more strenuous situations (which is kinda opposite to mindless dbz powerups).
matrice
August 12, 2010, 02:14 PM
The main problem with Naruto's development is the randomness of it. He went away on a training trip with one of the best shinobi in the world, and he came back substantially unchanged (without even knowing about KB's special properties, or about element manipulation, not to mention that, for someone who has signed one of the three strongest summoning contracts, he is suprisingly reluctant to put the Toads to good use... pretty stupid, considering that they have been the element that had allowed him to with a confrontation with Shukaku, thus defeating an opponent that would reach Kage level in the next three years).
Then, in a week, he manages to master a special brand of ninja techniques that Jiraya had not been able to wield correctly after decades of training. He also completes a jutsu the Yondaime had been unable to finish, and apparently manages to gain control over the Kyubi and gain Hiraishin-level speed at in a single move. Add to that the charka sensory abilities.
What I am trying to tell, I guess, is that before, he didn't have almost any jutsu besides kage bunshin, and now it seems like Kishimoto wants to add any random thing that comes to mind to Naruto's arsenal, without bothering to explain how he managed to learn it. Take those huge Rasengan-like techniques... how can he manage to do that, and at the same time be unable to produce a regular-sized rasengan without two-three clones aiding him?. More importantly, how was he able to find the time to learn how to do that, on top of learning to feel nature, trying to learn an entire new style of taijutsu and perfecting his chakra sensing skills?
jm
August 12, 2010, 03:32 PM
actually i think its been steady just it always judged compare to peoples expectations.
look round about how many people wrote super strong naruto fanfic out there. people wanted him to pown.
exepectation are the problem.
NAM61
August 12, 2010, 04:00 PM
The main problem with Naruto's development is the randomness of it. He went away on a training trip with one of the best shinobi in the world, and he came back substantially unchanged (without even knowing about KB's special properties, or about element manipulation, not to mention that, for someone who has signed one of the three strongest summoning contracts, he is suprisingly reluctant to put the Toads to good use... pretty stupid, considering that they have been the element that had allowed him to with a confrontation with Shukaku, thus defeating an opponent that would reach Kage level in the next three years).
Then, in a week, he manages to master a special brand of ninja techniques that Jiraya had not been able to wield correctly after decades of training. He also completes a jutsu the Yondaime had been unable to finish, and apparently manages to gain control over the Kyubi and gain Hiraishin-level speed at in a single move. Add to that the charka sensory abilities.
What I am trying to tell, I guess, is that before, he didn't have almost any jutsu besides kage bunshin, and now it seems like Kishimoto wants to add any random thing that comes to mind to Naruto's arsenal, without bothering to explain how he managed to learn it. Take those huge Rasengan-like techniques... how can he manage to do that, and at the same time be unable to produce a regular-sized rasengan without two-three clones aiding him?. More importantly, how was he able to find the time to learn how to do that, on top of learning to feel nature, trying to learn an entire new style of taijutsu and perfecting his chakra sensing skills?
he got the sensing ability from the kyuubi. the kyuubi had already shown a few time he could sense evil in a persons heart. like bee gained ink from the hachibi naruto got the sensing ability from the kyuubi. this is not random he has been trying to control the kyuubi for over 500 chapters. he only needs one clone to make rasengans not three 3 was for the FRS but know it only takes 3. the large rasengan he did not have to train to be able to use them cause it is just adding more chakra to it he has already mastered it.
people get mad cause naruto learns new things and some say nothing when sasuke pulls jutsus and chakra out of no where. like summoning the hawk, getting chakra from darkness and being able to control ameratsu easily better then even itachi who had the MS for many years. it is because the is better then itachi the same way naruto is better then jiriaya and minato that is why they can do things the other gen could not.
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I think with Sasuke, we got to see his MS's limits (ie. battle vs Killer Bee and against the Kages and Danzou) which forced him to want to get stronger.
With Naruto, we really haven't seen SM been taken to the limit (Think DBZ when Vegeta and Trunks got their asses handed to them in SS1 form by the Androids and were forced to get stronger.) Naruto's power-ups would be better served after another time skip if he hasn't encountered such a dilemma IMO.
naruto lost to pain in SM he had to use the kyuubi to beat him and then used it against the kyuubi and almost lost because the kyuubis anger was to much, he was taken to his limit. in both fights and SM was not enough that is why he decided to learn how to control the kyuubi. plus if he did not sasuke and madara could just control naruto because they could control the kyuubi and naruto could not.
jiraiyanindo
August 12, 2010, 06:39 PM
I dont think naruto is powering up too fast. I mean, naruto has been out for basically ten years now and we are just finally seeing him use the full kyuubi chakra without side effects. I'm happy with the progression of the manga.
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