One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

[Childo]

cuz his fruit is special. It allows him to absorb another DF power. Like that he can have 2 DF power.
Follow the manga dude ;)

[Freid]

So you're saying that the real motivation for the time-skip is not the plot, which you call "sub-par reasons the manga gave", but the reason Oda decided to have a time skip is because he wants to change the character designs? >.>
you're saying he said to himself one day, "i want to draw the characters differently now, I will move the story forward in such a way that i can include a time skip now so i can draw them differently".

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nah, I don't buy it. He draws them slightly different with each progressing arc. not only that, he changes their clothes pretty often too (Alubasta, Skypeia, Water 7), with the exception of chopper and luffy (but even Luffy's clothes change color).

You also fail to realize that Oda works with a team of artists, where in he does the sketches and other people complete those character sketches, fill in backgrounds, etc. So i don't think he'd care that he's been drawing them them the same for years since he's not literally drawing every frame in every chapter.

He might've definitely thought about that along the way, but I think changing the designs after this time-skip is a bonus. The time-skip exists so that the characters can get stronger in a shorter amount of time, especially Luffy with regards to Haki which is stated to be difficult to master, and to avoid a naruto/bleach-esque power up: "you are going to get really strong in a short period of time with this advanced training/flash back/internal battle!", which by the way is a stupid over used plot device in my opinion...

The main characters came to a point where every enemy they encountered was too much for them (Kuma on thriller bark, Kizaru, Sentomaru, Pacifistas, Kuma again, and then for Luffy: Smoker, Akainu, Aokiji, people he fought in Marineford, etc). It comes to a point where you realize if you keep trying you or your crew mates will die, and not luck out thanks to Kuma :p and therefore you have to stand still to power up :)

People are acting like the two year time-skip means we literally had a 2 year time skip in real life. Oda has done time-skips in the manga before. This one is only longer and probably does not affect Oda in the slightest bit. Doing it again for a bigger purpose like changing character designs is not far-fetched. The strawhats training for two years does not better the plot because they could have reached the same level over the course of their journey like the supernovas will be doing and like they already displayed in the past. The fact is, the two years may be big to most people, but in mangaka land, Oda still continues his writing and also gets what he wants by changing their designs

Im guessing you dont understand the difference between refining how a character looks and changing their design?. A change in design would mean them having another look that is set in stone and not temporary. Luffy's short hair was always his short hair - A change in design could mean his hair length increases. Luffy aint too muscular - A change in design could make him muscular. The change in clothes and their colour you mentioned happens in some mangas but that is hardly the kind of change in design that two years off panel would grant. The things I'm talking about are changes best suited over a long time period. Like i duno, two years maybe. Like BB's gap in his tooth closing. I can see so many fans moaning if the gap in BB's teeth suddenly closed after it being kept there for such a long period of time.

I did not say he was getting tired of drawing them the same. Over the course of a manga, the mangaka normally gets better and in order to improve the story a little, may want to change the designs of the characters. I didnt fail to realize that.

Again, the time-skip in the manga existed so the characters can get stronger. I am not disputing that. But because of the simply fact that he was not 'forced' to do that, I simply think A change in design (which would be good for the story) was why he had them train for two years to attain power that their main supernova rivals were going to attain whilst still journeying. Or do you think that Law and Kidd wont know about Haki after the time-skip, or that luffy will now just wtf pwn Law or Kidd. Im just looking at the bigger picture and trying to get why Oda himself brought about the Strawhats needing to train for two years.

Like shakky said to the strawhats, all the other supernovas went through the same obsticles the strawhats came accross on their journey. Hawkins had to fight kizaru in shabondy, Law and Kidd faught a pacifista in shabondy (even though they crews joined forces, they still got a taste of how powerful it was). Some of the other supernovas also observed the strength of kizaru. And again, it could be that sometimes you have to stand still to power up, but if there wasn't a bigger picture than what we were shown, Oda could have continued the manga without the Strawhats standing still to power up. Nobody would have complained at that.

And i think people should know, although i thought it was pretty obvious, that this is all speculation. Maybe you all got the idea that i actually know Oda, but i assure you i dont.

[llamapie]

im sure the strawhats will will look good. i think everyone will have minor changes, but usopp, chopper, and maybe frankie will have the biggest changes from the way we saw them last.

im curious who will get the flame fruit. oda has never touched on how fruits regenerate after the user dies so im anxious to see who get the power and how and where it comes bsck

We know there are some records of their shapes which allow people to identify them some times.

IE Teach knew exactly what fruit he was looking for. Shanks knew it was the gomu gomu fruit, and beyond that there is a mystery to how teach took WB's quake quake fruit. Its possible the moment the person dies the fruit's power starts leaving the body and goes to some tree some where.

Anyways if we see Ace's fruit I don't think it will be a for a long while if it does pop up. My hunch is Luffy will meet someone in the new world who knew the previous user of the gomu gomu fruit. :P Would be interesting.

[Tias]

Something i just noticed.
In chapter 561 page 6, Mihawk also seems to to use some sort of intimidating thing =o / killing intent. Some people have been speculating wether thats the same of not.

I hope it's oey to link to the page, and if not, then a mod can delete my post, but look here --> http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v57/c561/6.html

I mean even luffy got scared( if thats it ) there = /

So, Killing Intent or CoQ?

[tothx]

Something i just noticed.
In chapter 561 page 6, Mihawk also seems to to use some sort of intimidating thing =o / killing intent. Some people have been speculating wether thats the same of not.

I hope it's oey to link to the page, and if not, then a mod can delete my post, but look here --> http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v57/c561/6.html

I mean even luffy got scared( if thats it ) there = /

So, Killing Intent or CoQ?

CoQ and killing intent is probably more or less the same thing. And luffy got scared due to his own haki (colour of observation) which told him if he continiued his arm would be cut off
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cuz his fruit is special. It allows him to absorb another DF power. Like that he can have 2 DF power.
Follow the manga dude ;)

Well fruit might be special but it was said in the manga "It's that special body of his" so it's unlikely anyone apart from him would be able to do it. Even with the darkness fruit

[chess4]

We know there are some records of their shapes which allow people to identify them some times.

IE Teach knew exactly what fruit he was looking for. Shanks knew it was the gomu gomu fruit, and beyond that there is a mystery to how teach took WB's quake quake fruit. Its possible the moment the person dies the fruit's power starts leaving the body and goes to some tree some where.

Anyways if we see Ace's fruit I don't think it will be a for a long while if it does pop up. My hunch is Luffy will meet someone in the new world who knew the previous user of the gomu gomu fruit. :P Would be interesting.

i dont think the fruit are natural, i think they are man made. either way i cant wait 2 see who and when the it shows again.

since the next chapter is going to be 24 pages i think we see some of the strawhats preparing to leave their training grounds and a bit about what they have been doing over the past 2 years.

[Childo]

I do not remeber very clearly but I think it's the DF of darkness who allows him to control both dark and sismic power.
I guess that's why he shows his power with darkness in is right hand and sismic power in his over hand.

[aionaraP]

Why so rude little fish? Even if you have an objection to what someone types you shouldn't be that rude. Especially when it turns out your dead wrong...
http://www.ourmanga.com/One_Piece/501/07


woooops! sorry my bad :P

thanks for posting the link, anyway that was just a joke lol dont be so serious.

[chess4]

since the strong world movie is sort of canon....wouldnt it be wild if shiki became a shichibukai

[Trafalgarlawl]

People are acting like the two year time-skip means we literally had a 2 year time skip in real life. Oda has done time-skips in the manga before. This one is only longer and probably does not affect Oda in the slightest bit. Doing it again for a bigger purpose like changing character designs is not far-fetched. The strawhats training for two years does not better the plot because they could have reached the same level over the course of their journey like the supernovas will be doing and like they already displayed in the past. The fact is, the two years may be big to most people, but in mangaka land, Oda still continues his writing and also gets what he wants by changing their designs

Im guessing you dont understand the difference between refining how a character looks and changing their design?. A change in design would mean them having another look that is set in stone and not temporary. Luffy's short hair was always his short hair - A change in design could mean his hair length increases. Luffy aint too muscular - A change in design could make him muscular. The change in clothes and their colour you mentioned happens in some mangas but that is hardly the kind of change in design that two years off panel would grant. The things I'm talking about are changes best suited over a long time period. Like i duno, two years maybe. Like BB's gap in his tooth closing. I can see so many fans moaning if the gap in BB's teeth suddenly closed after it being kept there for such a long period of time.

I did not say he was getting tired of drawing them the same. Over the course of a manga, the mangaka normally gets better and in order to improve the story a little, may want to change the designs of the characters. I didnt fail to realize that.

Again, the time-skip in the manga existed so the characters can get stronger. I am not disputing that. But because of the simply fact that he was not 'forced' to do that, I simply think A change in design (which would be good for the story) was why he had them train for two years to attain power that their main supernova rivals were going to attain whilst still journeying. Or do you think that Law and Kidd wont know about Haki after the time-skip, or that luffy will now just wtf pwn Law or Kidd. Im just looking at the bigger picture and trying to get why Oda himself brought about the Strawhats needing to train for two years.

Like shakky said to the strawhats, all the other supernovas went through the same obsticles the strawhats came accross on their journey. Hawkins had to fight kizaru in shabondy, Law and Kidd faught a pacifista in shabondy (even though they crews joined forces, they still got a taste of how powerful it was). Some of the other supernovas also observed the strength of kizaru. And again, it could be that sometimes you have to stand still to power up, but if there wasn't a bigger picture than what we were shown, Oda could have continued the manga without the Strawhats standing still to power up. Nobody would have complained at that.

And i think people should know, although i thought it was pretty obvious, that this is all speculation. Maybe you all got the idea that i actually know Oda, but i assure you i dont.

I don't know what you're arguing anymore... >.>

I said I agree that character redesigns (I DO know what they are :amuse) came to mind, but i just argued that the plot motivations came first.

I guess we'll see how drastically they change in a few days :)

by the way, Luffy DID get more muscular as the manga went on :) I guess thats, kind of like a redesign...?

[chess4]

im sure we will see the longneck, the long legs, the snake neck, and dwarves eventually. im sure they will be cool, but i hope none join the strawhats. a dwarf would be cool, but the strawhats need some dawgs in the crew.

i hope when they reach fishman island they meet chimneys dad

[Vetinari clone]

By the way I have noticed that a lot of the predictions around Brook say things like he will gain more powerful music that can invigorate his crew or debilitate his enamies but no one mentions this (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-509/page019.html). I realize that it's the DF which allows Apoo to change his body into musical instruments but it doesn't necessarily follow that the damage he can do is caused by the DF. Apoo is one of the long armed people and Brook has ended up with them, Perhaps they have knowledge of musical fighting techniques that do actual physical damage. just a random idea, but I hadn't noticed any one else mention it so I thought I would :tem.

[Trafalgarlawl]

I realize that it's the DF which allows Apoo to change his body into musical instruments but it doesn't necessarily follow that the damage he can do is caused by the DF. Apoo is one of the long armed people and Brook has ended up with them, Perhaps they have knowledge of musical fighting techniques that do actual physical damage. just a random idea, but I hadn't noticed any one else mention it so I thought I would :tem.

good point!!!
that's very true. His devil Fruit could explicitly be to change his body into instruments, meanwhile his songs could be a product of the Long-Arm tribe... Kenzan Island (where Brook is) is in Grand line, and Apoo is also listed as being from Grandline. :)

[BlackSword]

People are acting like the two year time-skip means we literally had a 2 year time skip in real life. Oda has done time-skips in the manga before. This one is only longer and probably does not affect Oda in the slightest bit. Doing it again for a bigger purpose like changing character designs is not far-fetched. The strawhats training for two years does not better the plot because they could have reached the same level over the course of their journey like the supernovas will be doing and like they already displayed in the past. The fact is, the two years may be big to most people, but in mangaka land, Oda still continues his writing and also gets what he wants by changing their designs

Im guessing you dont understand the difference between refining how a character looks and changing their design?. A change in design would mean them having another look that is set in stone and not temporary. Luffy's short hair was always his short hair - A change in design could mean his hair length increases. Luffy aint too muscular - A change in design could make him muscular. The change in clothes and their colour you mentioned happens in some mangas but that is hardly the kind of change in design that two years off panel would grant. The things I'm talking about are changes best suited over a long time period. Like i duno, two years maybe. Like BB's gap in his tooth closing. I can see so many fans moaning if the gap in BB's teeth suddenly closed after it being kept there for such a long period of time.

I did not say he was getting tired of drawing them the same. Over the course of a manga, the mangaka normally gets better and in order to improve the story a little, may want to change the designs of the characters. I didnt fail to realize that.

Again, the time-skip in the manga existed so the characters can get stronger. I am not disputing that. But because of the simply fact that he was not 'forced' to do that, I simply think A change in design (which would be good for the story) was why he had them train for two years to attain power that their main supernova rivals were going to attain whilst still journeying. Or do you think that Law and Kidd wont know about Haki after the time-skip, or that luffy will now just wtf pwn Law or Kidd. Im just looking at the bigger picture and trying to get why Oda himself brought about the Strawhats needing to train for two years.

Like shakky said to the strawhats, all the other supernovas went through the same obsticles the strawhats came accross on their journey. Hawkins had to fight kizaru in shabondy, Law and Kidd faught a pacifista in shabondy (even though they crews joined forces, they still got a taste of how powerful it was). Some of the other supernovas also observed the strength of kizaru. And again, it could be that sometimes you have to stand still to power up, but if there wasn't a bigger picture than what we were shown, Oda could have continued the manga without the Strawhats standing still to power up. Nobody would have complained at that.

And i think people should know, although i thought it was pretty obvious, that this is all speculation. Maybe you all got the idea that i actually know Oda, but i assure you i dont.

No1 is arguing with any of the points you made. I atleast was just saying that I think that Oda planned for the timeskip before the 'New World' since the SH first ran into Aokiji. The Supernovas aren't at war with the world which makes them different from the SH. Secondly the SH are going to become the Best. They could have most likely survived fine in the New World baring any encounters with BB/Admirals/Pacifista/Vice Admirals or Logia. All things considered we saw what happened to Bonney. That could just as easily been the SH. But I'm sure Oda is enjoying the chance to change the character designs of the SH and more! I just think the story would have seemed weird if the SH didn't get 'real' power up. The SH have been fighting tooth and nail for the victory's they have had. Luffy's most powerful technique shortens his life and results in some serious injuries. Zoro wins but he always get slashed up. Sure they scrapped by until now and got stronger true but the gap between their current levels and Admirals is just to large. Their normal rate of growth wouldn't suffice and if they were just magically able to fight on same levels as the other monsters without and outside help and still be able to walk away and complete their journey towards One Piece us the readers would be incredulous.

All in all I think that Oda will enjoy the chance to change their designs. But his overall purpose was to give them a creditable ladder on which to scale the wall they hit.

[Freid]

@Trafalgarlawl, CrownedClown

Well i wasn't arguing anything at first and i was just speculating that Oda may have wanted to change the designs of his characters. After that, he came up with a way in which it would be possible for him to achieve that without abruptly altering it in the present time. I'm simply saying that Oda made a time-skip for training possible in order to change their designs. I know it sounds stupid but I honestly think that was it. Oda is a fantastic writer so i think he wrote everything the way he wanted, creating all those reasons simply for him to get the opportunity to change their designs and we are all under the tsukuyomi (illusion) that its for the strawhats to get stronger.

Im simply speculating what may have went through Oda's mind before he did it. Nothing more. Too bad there's no way to know if I'm right :darn

Also CrownedCrown. Bonney was far weaker than the strawhats. Also Bonney picked a fight with a character that was probably in the top 5 in terms of strength along with his legendary crew. What happened to her was certain when she went after BB. Also I wasnt getting at them being suddenly able to fight on the same level as the monsters in the new world. Im saying Oda can simply make them progress in the New world like they had been doing in the first half. The start of the New world surely aint going to be as scary as the people they would encounter further into their journey. They still aint going to be fighting an admiral anytime soon. And again, you stated all the events and reasons for them to get a time-skip which i aint disputing. I am speculating what may have caused Oda to bring about all the events which led to it which really cannot be disproved or proved unless we know Oda personally tbh

[joshua019]

@Trafalgarlawl, CrownedClown

Well i wasn't arguing anything at first and i was just speculating that Oda may have wanted to change the designs of his characters. After that, he came up with a way in which it would be possible for him to achieve that without abruptly altering it in the present time. I'm simply saying that Oda made a time-skip for training possible in order to change their designs. I know it sounds stupid but I honestly think that was it. Oda is a fantastic writer so i think he wrote everything the way he wanted, creating all those reasons simply for him to get the opportunity to change their designs and we are all under the tsukuyomi (illusion) that its for the strawhats to get stronger.

Im simply speculating what may have went through Oda's mind before he did it. Nothing more. Too bad there's no way to know if I'm right :darn

Also CrownedCrown. Bonney was far weaker than the strawhats. Also Bonney picked a fight with a character that was probably in the top 5 in terms of strength along with his legendary crew. What happened to her was certain when she went after BB. Also I wasnt getting at them being suddenly able to fight on the same level as the monsters in the new world. Im saying Oda can simply make them progress in the New world like they had been doing in the first half. The start of the New world surely aint going to be as scary as the people they would encounter further into their journey. They still aint going to be fighting an admiral anytime soon. And again, you stated all the events and reasons for them to get a time-skip which i aint disputing. I am speculating what may have caused Oda to bring about all the events which led to it which really cannot be disproved or proved unless we know Oda personally tbh

Well I think the time skip also has to do with Haki, since the beginning of the series a lot of characters has been introduced with Logia type DF as the story progress there hasn't been a way for the Logia to be defeated... so bringing in the concept of haki allows to find a loop around the problem....

[chess4]

http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/93580674/1

the series has been on a break for a month. its obvious thet the strawhats are going to look different, even if its only a very small change, but i think oda has something much bigger in store for his fans.

the 1st time i saw the above pic, i was wondering why would oda hide sabo eyes when we have seen him before?

then i read on another site, where oda said that a pirate in the last few panels of the manga will have an eyepatch. if he/she is in the last panels of the manga then i think he/she must be very important. i think oda will show us that sabo is still alive, thus kicking the 2nd part of the adventure of with a bang


sabo just has to be alive, if he wasnt then what would be the point of introducing him. oda could have left him out all together if he wasnt going to survive.

oda usually sticks to his guns about things that were stated earlier in the manga. luffy said he wanted 10 members and i think that what is going to be.

oda has never had 2 members join at once, so maybe that happens on FI. i might be the only one but the flashback arc with sabo seemed kind of random to me. it was good but seemed like oda was setting up for something

[triniman121]

I rather Sabo dead. I just don't know why. let their (ace/sabo) their dreams live on in luffy...

[luffi_2009]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/gyuu86-onepiece/archives/51726094.html

check it out men :blink:blink

[BlackSword]

I hope Sabo isn't alive... It would feel to much like we were replacing Ace... If Sabo was alive all this time and didn't tell them I see Luffy being pissed.
*Begs Oda to leave Sabo Dead.* -_-;

[HiAndromon]

By the way I have noticed that a lot of the predictions around Brook say things like he will gain more powerful music that can invigorate his crew or debilitate his enamies but no one mentions this (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-509/page019.html). I realize that it's the DF which allows Apoo to change his body into musical instruments but it doesn't necessarily follow that the damage he can do is caused by the DF. Apoo is one of the long armed people and Brook has ended up with them, Perhaps they have knowledge of musical fighting techniques that do actual physical damage. just a random idea, but I hadn't noticed any one else mention it so I thought I would :tem.

I actually thought that may be the case, like Jack Skellington in the Nightmare before christmas-Oogies revenge game.He used musical notes to fight the bosses, no really, they exploded it was cool.But I thought using music to directly fight seemed unlikely, I can see him using it like The Violinist of Hamlin who used it to strengthen others.
So I think leanring how to do that is unlikely, I would like it if it happened, but I don't think it'll happen.

good point!!!
that's very true. His devil Fruit could explicitly be to change his body into instruments, meanwhile his songs could be a product of the Long-Arm tribe... Kenzan Island (where Brook is) is in Grand line, and Apoo is also listed as being from Grandline. :)

If his devil fruit power only turned him into instruments it would be pretty strange, most cursed fruit ability's seem to able to be used for offense, it would be just too big an coincidence if he happened to be from a place where music=attack and he got a musical fruit that isn't beans.

[dragonballz66]

There's a spoiler out: http://blog.livedoor.jp/gyuu86-onepiece/archives/cat_50046253.html
I don't know if this is real or fake.

[Nonlife]

I hope Sabo isn't alive... It would feel to much like we were replacing Ace... If Sabo was alive all this time and didn't tell them I see Luffy being pissed.
*Begs Oda to leave Sabo Dead.* -_-;

If Sabo was still alive, he wouldn't be replacing Ace. He survived a head-shot from a cannon by one of those Tenryuubuto (sp?) I wouldn't be surprised if his body was severly scarred, or he lost his memory. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Dragon's vessel was close in the area, and Sabo's been living under him. (Even as a child, Sabo was a rebel with how caste system worked out for people.)

[Freid]

If his devil fruit power only turned him into instruments it would be pretty strange, most cursed fruit ability's seem to able to be used for offense, it would be just too big an coincidence if he happened to be from a place where music=attack and he got a musical fruit that isn't beans.

I also found it a coincidence that hancock was force fed the Mero Mero no mi, something which compliments her looks so well. It wouldnt have worked better on anyone else in the manga. I do wonder though, if someone not so attractive was fed it if they would become better looking like how alvida became better looking cause of her devil fruit. Its off topic though, just thought I might aswel chip it in :amuse

[BlackSword]

Each of the SH were sent to an Island that could help them improve their capabilities.
Zoro to Mihawk.
Sanji to the Okama's and their cooking.
Luffy to the Kuja pirates who possessed the ability to use Haki.
Nami to a Sky Island that specialized in weather.
Chopper to an Island with lots of medical research & untested medicines.
Franky to an Island of the greatest inventory in the OP world.
Robin to the Revolutionaries who have knowledge of the world history. (Speculation)
Usopp to an Island that has 'instant grow seeds' that will work wonderful for projectiles as well as Hercules who has armor made out of an 'Unknown' substance.
Brook landing on an Island full of music specialists doesn't seem so far fetched to me...
Someone choose very specifically were to send the SH. Someone knew about their strengths and weaknesses and sent them to an Island capable of counter acting them. I think we will discover that the Longarm tribe is known for their music. They may not have 'attacking' music like Apoo but they will be able to help Brook develop some.


@Trafalgarlawl, CrownedClown

Well i wasn't arguing anything at first and i was just speculating that Oda may have wanted to change the designs of his characters. After that, he came up with a way in which it would be possible for him to achieve that without abruptly altering it in the present time. I'm simply saying that Oda made a time-skip for training possible in order to change their designs. I know it sounds stupid but I honestly think that was it. Oda is a fantastic writer so i think he wrote everything the way he wanted, creating all those reasons simply for him to get the opportunity to change their designs and we are all under the tsukuyomi (illusion) that its for the strawhats to get stronger.

Im simply speculating what may have went through Oda's mind before he did it. Nothing more. Too bad there's no way to know if I'm right :darn

Also CrownedCrown. Bonney was far weaker than the strawhats. Also Bonney picked a fight with a character that was probably in the top 5 in terms of strength along with his legendary crew. What happened to her was certain when she went after BB. Also I wasnt getting at them being suddenly able to fight on the same level as the monsters in the new world. Im saying Oda can simply make them progress in the New world like they had been doing in the first half. The start of the New world surely aint going to be as scary as the people they would encounter further into their journey. They still aint going to be fighting an admiral anytime soon. And again, you stated all the events and reasons for them to get a time-skip which i aint disputing. I am speculating what may have caused Oda to bring about all the events which led to it which really cannot be disproved or proved unless we know Oda personally tbh
I'm fairly sure BB targeted her not the other way around. He wanted to trade her for 'something' in the WGs possession. And tbh I don't really see Luffy/Zoro or Sanji being able to do much against her. Sanji because she is a Lady. Zoro and Luffy because she could turn them into babies or Old men. :blink I really think she was one of the stronger Supernovas.

[nightshade_nova]

Its saddening to know from the spoiler that OP will end after New World arc.

Guess we need to start guessing what will One Piece actually be.Im guessing One Piece is a treasure that can unites people together, hence the name "One Piece".And Luffy is one of the rare ppl who gets to use it with his conquerer haki type.

[BlackSword]

Its saddening to know from the spoiler that OP will end after New World arc.

Guess we need to start guessing what will One Piece actually be.Im guessing One Piece is a treasure that can unites people together, hence the name "One Piece".And Luffy is one of the rare ppl who gets to use it with his conquerer haki type.
That's 10 years from now. :blink We've got a lot of time lolz

[c0nflikt]

I wonder if that spoiler is real, said something about aokiji being a pirate. That'd be a cool developement.

[Vetinari clone]

I'm fairly sure BB targeted her not the other way around. He wanted to trade her for 'something' in the WGs possession. And tbh I don't really see Luffy/Zoro or Sanji being able to do much against her. Sanji because she is a Lady. Zoro and Luffy because she could turn them into babies or Old men. :blink I really think she was one of the stronger Supernovas.

We don't yet know what the limitations of her power are, I highly doubt she just has to think become old it's probably something like the merro merro beam that you can dodge or evade somehow.
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I wonder if that spoiler is real, said something about aokiji being a pirate. That'd be a cool developement.

if it says that it's not real.

[BlackSword]

I wonder if that spoiler is real, said something about aokiji being a pirate. That'd be a cool developement.

What spoiler? o.O

[Freid]

I wonder if that spoiler is real, said something about aokiji being a pirate. That'd be a cool developement.

I had an idea before that its possible Akainu and Ao kiji may duke it out. Whichever of them becomes fleet admiral (imo akainu) its possible the other may disagree with the decisions the fleet admiral is making. Akainu vs Ao kiji would be epic. Though its pretty unlikely aokiji would become a pirate. He still stands for what is right and although there are good pirates, pirates are still stereotypically the villains and so I doubt Ao kiji would sail being a pirate.

[BlackSword]

I think Aokiji would lose but not die. And yeah that fight would be EPIC!!!

[akilies]

I had an idea before that its possible Akainu and Ao kiji may duke it out. Whichever of them becomes fleet admiral (imo akainu) its possible the other may disagree with the decisions the fleet admiral is making. Akainu vs Ao kiji would be epic. Though its pretty unlikely aokiji would become a pirate. He still stands for what is right and although there are good pirates, pirates are still stereotypically the villains and so I doubt Ao kiji would sail being a pirate.
I dont think so, cause you see Aokiji was involved in a Buster Call before in which alot of Innocent people died n he did nothing infact he was in attack party himself... so at self conscious level he fails..

-Remember Robins home town History-:oh

[Lord.Strife]

There you the ultimate turn around for akojii. Akojii being a pirate sounds so fkn epic it would be prety awesome for akojii to join the strawhats after the main three have surpassed him in power as their logia user.

[Freid]

@akilies, ok, so ao kiji has done some less than virtuous things in the past but he still considers himself as a good guy. He wont then sail the seas as a pirate which are stereotyped to be villains. There are still lots more bad pirates than there are bad marines. He may not be as innocent as coby but he is innocent enough to disagree with the kind of decisions i can see akainu making in the future (if) he became fleet admiral. Equally with if he became fleet admiral. Akainu may think Ao kiji is being too nice and bam, you got a Aokiji vs Akainu match up. Well maybe not that simply.

[DEATHBOTT]

wouldnt aokiji be more likely to join the ra than become a pirate if he was upset with the marines?

[BlackSword]

wouldnt aokiji be more likely to join the ra than become a pirate if he was upset with the marines?
Aokiji will be a marine until just before the very end of the series.
The Whole World vs The Marines. Epic Fight.

[triniman121]

Well it would be luffy vs the marines... like whitebeard said. luffy is the man of prophecy hahahaha. well he didn't state it like that. only that someone will rise up or something...

[HiAndromon]

I also found it a coincidence that hancock was force fed the Mero Mero no mi, something which compliments her looks so well. It wouldnt have worked better on anyone else in the manga. I do wonder though, if someone not so attractive was fed it if they would become better looking like how alvida became better looking cause of her devil fruit. Its off topic though, just thought I might aswel chip it in :amuse
Hancock's fruit power can be used directly in combat, from what I gather it takes any general physical attraction and blows into full blown devotion.It's possible to fight this or be unaffected, but it can be used to control people enough to turn them into stone.
Scratchman's power turn him into instruments with seemingly no combat effect, assuming he could use music to attack normally, which is what leads me to believe that his devil fruit power lets him turn his music into attacks.

[Freid]

Hancock's fruit power can be used directly in combat, from what I gather it takes any general physical attraction and blows into full blown devotion.It's possible to fight this or be unaffected, but it can be used to control people enough to turn them into stone.
Scratchman's power turn him into instruments with seemingly no combat effect, assuming he could use music to attack normally, which is what leads me to believe that his devil fruit power lets him turn his music into attacks.

Its annoying when people quote me and totally miss the point of my posts. I didnt say hancock's fruit could not be used in combat. Its simply a coincidence that possibly the best looking woman in the manga has a devil fruit that operates on attraction towards the user. I dont get where the rest came from. I even stopped reading when I got to the Scratchman bit. Im even tired, :sleepy I should let MH rest for the night. Hopefully when i wake up, God will bless me with spoilers.

[HiAndromon]

Its annoying when people quote me and totally miss the point of my posts. I didnt say hancock's fruit could not be used in combat. Its simply a coincidence that possibly the best looking woman in the manga has a devil fruit that operates on attraction towards the user. I dont get where the rest came from. I even stopped reading when I got to the Scratchman bit. Im even tired, :sleepy I should let MH rest for the night. Hopefully when i wake up, God will bless me with spoilers.

Sorry if I lost you, the point I was trying to make was; Yes Hancock is hot and has a fruit that plays well to her beauty which is a great coincidence, but unlike Scratchman's fruit it can turn people to stone which is useful.I never thought you said it couldn't, it was just an example of a fruits combat ability's.
But A fruit that only lets someone turn their body into instruments with no combat ability's like what was being suggested is what I was debating, and assuming this was true it so happened to find an island with people that use music to attack?(Assuming they do, I haven't seen anyone other then Scratchman do it)
Also I hope you get your spoilers tomorrow, and not just because I'll see the spoilers too, also because of the part of me that wish's well to others.

[radicalbyte]

People have had a month to write their fake spoilers, so we can expect to be flooded with them before the real spoilers turn up.

[ish3]

According to mangastream via 36 hours from now there will be a new chapter out. Translated and everything so spoilers should be out later. Bad part is two work days I need to get through first.

[Xenos3421]

I'm not gonna believe anything untill I read it on wednesday.

I've waited this long I can go 2 more days. No spoilers this week for me.

Well, for my last prediction I am betting on like a "catch-up" narration that will lead into events unfolding at the SA. After a few throw away pages with Shakky and co. it ends with a teaser shot of everybody setting off (with that blacked over you-cant-see-shit treatment, like Songoku's buddah form). Last page is luffy picking up his hat.

I am betting 598 will be awesome. But will also cheat us out of the mugiwara's for another week. or two.. That Oda-punk is probably gonna take another week off after 600.

[Akainu]

Time for going easy has ended. Posting spoilers anywhere out of the spoilerthread is still against the rules and everyone violating this rule will have to face the consequences

[BlackSword]

:p Absolute forum Justice! But shrug you after all have the 'I Own You' Button at your finger tips so we shall digress to your decision. I for one shall be more careful in the future. Sorry for trouble. :(

1 More day till the new chapter!
I'm still really excited to see if my predictions are even close to accurate. I kinda hope they aren't it will be more exiting that way!
Chopper will use Multiple Rumble Points at the same time. I.E. Brain Point + Walk Point.

[Akainu]

nope, doesn't matter if it's fake or not, spoiler is spoiler and if it's presented as such it's forbidden - if you have a spoiler just pm one of the sections mods (Gecko Moria , ScratchmenApoo , Kaiser Will) or one of the global moderators to open the spoilerthread & discussion ;)

[Poneglyph420]

Yeah.. I'm sorry if I made trouble.. I predict Oda will deliver and we will see all sorts of things coming out as predictions and some seeming like spoliers. But I'm really shocked OP will be available online before it's official release in JP. Yeah for us...

Sorry again.

[nightshade_nova]

next spoiler would be "2 years later"
Im looking forward for the crews new gears, new clothes, new appearances and new weapons.

maybe Nami will get some weather bombs, cos shes been talking about "weather ball" with the sky people.
usopp might even get a little muscular burning off all that fat.
maybe luffy will get some special cloth from boa.
chopper might get a book, like a big book of medicine or something
zorro might grew beards/long hair.
I cant think of anything for sanji...maybe special gloves or boots.

and as for brooks...I dont expect much of him...=.=
haha
maybe he'd learn to sing to calm ppl, or boost spirit.nothing much

[dragonballz66]

Yeah.. I'm sorry if I made trouble.. I predict Oda will deliver and we will see all sorts of things coming out as predictions and some seeming like spoliers. But I'm really shocked OP will be available online before it's official release in JP. Yeah for us...

Sorry again.
I think it's my fault for getting you in trouble, since I'm the one asking if anyone could read or translate the spoiler. Sorry for that.:darn

[LoS]

To be honest I don't mind reading fan-fic's like that one. They keep me entertained, some are honestly creative and interesting, while others are soooo off base and obviously wrong they are amazingly humorous.

[elitefox]

Time for going easy has ended. Posting spoilers anywhere out of the spoilerthread is still against the rules and everyone violating this rule will have to face the consequences


:pHaha face the absolute justice of Admiral Red Dog :p

So for the earlier sketch scans, a girl that looks like margaret felt power from luffy, do you think it will be in this chapter?

I don't know if I can survive ?? how many seasons every week lol, does it need to have haki on all the time to survive there? I really can't wait to see if Zoro ever touch mihawk at this point in time.

It's intriguing to have this master student... only the student can defeat his master or some else will deem the crown of the master.

Sanji "super nutritious food" coming up

Nami "super weather specialist" and maybe a few more weaponry that is not from ussop or ussop will modify it because it is a little premature. All old men vs nami was ridiculous. those old men were probably deprived of girls and worst yet young girls like nami. who could resist her.

Robin "Idk what she will learn" but I bet more on martial arts or fighting guerilla style :D

Usop - cannot think of anything but upgrades in weapon... but interesting enough to dream is that herculesan is actually using haki, color of armor to strengthen his pellets.

Chopper - as for him, develop medicines more effectively maybe vitamins?
- I also think that his powers will be stronger not because of medicines but with the maturity of his powers. I also see a teenage chopper :D

Franky - "War machine"

Brook - Andrea Bocelli :p

[HiAndromon]

It is official the discussion thread has become the new hot topic.

[senewe]

wow 2054 replies in 2 days. is this MH or APforums?
I remember we hit 2000 when ace died... OP fans sure are starving...

[Akainu]

this is actually the last chapters discussion which was active over a whole month ;x

[senewe]

oh my bad. I entered wrong room. thanks Akainu