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Kaiser Will
August 23, 2010, 07:55 PM
Sorry zerocooldx, but I'm taking away your thread for a higher purpose.

Since chapter 597, we all know that One Piece is going to have a time skip of 2 years in the story. So, this thread will be used to make discuss the past chapters and try to imagine in a long term, future predictions.

Here we will have more of a parallel about One Piece before and after the time skip, what passed and what are your thoughts for what's coming up next.
This thread will be more like a general discussion about the future, everything can go here, but to discuss character related topic more deeply go for this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63758). And to make your thoughts about the brand new locations and adventures come here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63418) to make them.

But remember to keep the conversation clean and nice, and since it's a wide topic, please try to stay on topic. Respect others users thoughts. No line posts. No flaming and bashing. Respect the forums rules.

zerocooldx
August 24, 2010, 03:33 PM
Source: Link (http://mangashare.com/forums/showthread.php?p=630408)

"Oda will be taking a month (4 week) long break after Chapter 597. Chapter 598 and on will be called One Piece : The New World.

So i guess part two of One Piece is going to begin in a little over a month. And there will most likely be a time skip, and the characters might also become/look a bit older. Although this is just speculation at this point. But the wait is obviously going to a real big pain, but once One Piece returns it should be better than ever. Which in-itself sounds utterly impossible.

This thread is designed to allow people to discuss their hopes, dreams, and aspirations for the now inevitable part two of One Piece. Also feel free to discuss how everyone will or might change, including none Straw Hat members. Such as The Marines, The World Government, The Yonkou, The Supernovas and etc. Basically discuss whatever you feel will be relevant to One Piece: The New World.

zozo96
August 24, 2010, 04:23 PM
But the wait is obviously going to a real big pain, but once One Piece returns it should be better than ever. Which in-itself sounds utterly impossible.

You got that right! At this point, I don't think OP can be better. I just hope it doesn't get worse. Let us believe that Oda can at least maintain the quality of OP.

Gats
August 24, 2010, 05:00 PM
Wow the break is finally confirmed. :(
3 issues without it, quite painful. I'm hopping for a big chapter.

So yeah hitting the bell 16 times should mean at least 16 weeks of training before the rendez vous. I can't see them training or doing other stuff for only 16 days, so it has to be weeks or months (can't be years ><).

RezzieThaRapper
August 24, 2010, 06:08 PM
Oh God... Part of me just died... I will be strong... I will be strong... I WILL BE STRONG!!!

Guess I'll have to settle for the anime for a while... and I hope that the Animators put the CP9 mini arc in right after the war ... (A bit off topic I know)

So, I hope this chapter is at least double the size, and closes some cliffhangers... and at least we know why, Oda temporarily stopped the cover stories...

I hope Koby get's stronger... We will see Aokoji as a Fleet Admiral... Crocodile, Buggy, Kidd, and Blackbeard will be contenders... Law will probably get into the NW the same time as Luffy or maybe a wee bit before

Bonney must be important to part 2... there is no way she can be caught at the very end of part 1... just to have some lame side story...

Garp, may train marines at East Blue, near his home town... just a guess

Akainu, will be in charge of the New World Marines... I just got a gut feeling about that

Hopefully the CP9 come back, with a full Lucci turn around... imagine a nice Lucci, or at least less imposing

If Buggy isn't a contender, he will be a Shichi...

And I guess the intro of chapter 598 will be worth it... it will be Narrative ending on 597 and a Narrative Opening on 598... but I want an Epic Intro by Luffy...

mars0103
August 24, 2010, 06:23 PM
I think I will be in a comer for 4 weeks. I hope because of the long break the next being a New Manga so to speak like DBZ it will be over 25 pages that would be nice.

Lee-tyme7
August 24, 2010, 06:25 PM
Wow this is big news, a time skip huh? A whole month without OP that's a long time. It's the last week of August so by the time we know it Halloween will be around the corner. I'd never imagine this day would come because 500+ chapters and it still going but I guess Oda need a long vacation too. He deserved it. Maybe 2 week of planning and 3 week vacation. lol!

Rowel
August 24, 2010, 07:00 PM
Thats what I predicted in the "What would One piece part 2 be called?" thread.

One piece : New world, sounds best.

hy4k
August 24, 2010, 07:12 PM
hopes

-dont introduce too many new charcters. there are enough already
-the return of some old favourites
-a major timeskip resulting in huge changes to the workd
-each of the strawhats getting exponentially stronger with completely new looks
-zoro takes over as captain for a bit
-buggy for shichibukai

kidopitz27
August 24, 2010, 07:49 PM
So if there will be a time skip this means

- new bounty if all SH crew left their training islands after they finished their training and set out to meet luffy
- each SH crew will meet someone from their past in their search for luffy
- so if there will be a 1 month hiatus so how many OP day/months/years it will be for the time skip.?

Skyrius
August 24, 2010, 09:09 PM
Well after what, 13 years, I personally believe that Oda deserves a break. Of course, part of me is going "AAAHHH!! NO ONE PIECE FOR A MONTH?!" and crying but I will persevere! *determined* On topic, I don't have any expectations that I don't already know Oda will totally go above and beyond. If there is just one thing I want confirmed, then it's Bon-chan's fate. T_T I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT HE'S DEAD! Phew, anyways, the one other thing I really want to see is Coby and Helmeppo's development. I'm still convinced that at the end of the manga, Coby and Luffy will be like Garp and Roger cept on better terms XD. So I really look forwards to
it.

Chris215
August 25, 2010, 06:04 AM
So sad about this... BUT...! if it means a timeskip for the training it's for a good cause! The next chapter is already of epic proportions in my mind!

P.S. i want to know if Bon Clay is ok... (i strongly believe he is! BB kicked Magellan's ass before he had a chance to kill Mr.2)

Oni_James
August 25, 2010, 09:36 AM
Now we finally know what Oda meant when in Strong World he said "This is Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old boy"

chrizzl
August 25, 2010, 09:59 AM
wow one month with out one piece:o what am i to do
well i just wanna c how much the story move on when we get it back like was there this anticipated time skip or is it just that Oda is taking a very well deserved break and gunna continue as if basically it was normaly 1 week time period
anyway in ODA we trust!!!

Cyber34
August 25, 2010, 11:07 AM
I'm guessing that both (assuming he survived against Brownbeard)Basil Hawkins, and Eustass Kidd will join the Schicibukai seeing as how they have made a smooth transition into the New World. They probably will do it to get the marines off their case and search for One Piece with less to worry about.

Lord Rayleigh
August 25, 2010, 12:30 PM
Are we sure that the name of the manga will change ? To me, this is not necessary at all since One Piece is still the main goal of the crew's travel.

I'm looking forward to seeing what has changed in the world during the SH's trainings : marine ranks, new world pirates, Shichibukai, Pacifistas etc...

Gats
August 25, 2010, 12:56 PM
Nothing indicates that the manga's name will change, it's just assumption.

Even the manga version of Dragon Ball didn't change the name despite the several timeskips. DBZ is for anime (and a way to say "part II" for us), just like Naruto Shippuden (created by the animators and some of us use it for the same purpose : "part II").

zerocooldx
August 25, 2010, 02:18 PM
Nothing indicates that the manga's name will change, it's just assumption.

Even the manga version of Dragon Ball didn't change the name despite the several timeskips. DBZ is for anime (and a way to say "part II" for us), just like Naruto Shippuden (created by the animators and some of us use it for the same purpose : "part II").

Well the name change to "One Piece: The New World" would make sense because this is going to be part two of the One Piece manga and its basically all going to be centered around the New World.

Gats
August 25, 2010, 04:17 PM
Well the name change to "One Piece: The New World" would make sense because this is going to be part two of the One Piece manga and its basically all going to be centered around the New World.

"It would make sense" doesn't make it true.

I guess that, like the other mangas, the animators will give a new name to the anime, probably a title like yours (we'll call it OPNW or NW), but I don't think the mangaka himself will.

Lord Rayleigh
August 25, 2010, 04:24 PM
If the rest of the story was not a part of the " One Piece " manga but of " One Piece: New World ", it wouldn't be the same manga. It would only be a new manga which continues the other, just like with Prince of Tennis.

One Piece staying One Piece is what actually makes sense since the title refers to the Pirate King quest which is far from ended in the 597th chapter of " One Piece. "

zerocooldx
August 25, 2010, 04:49 PM
"It would make sense" doesn't make it true.

I guess that, like the other mangas, the animators will give a new name to the anime, probably a title like yours (we'll call it OPNW or NW), but I don't think the mangaka himself will.

Yeah i wasn't really referring to the actual manga itself being renamed. But everything other then the manga that involves OP most likely will have a name change and the way its referred to. Kind of like how with Naruto everything but the manga has Shippuden titled in it now. And the people are most likely going to refer to the manga as One Piece:_______ and whatever gets chosen when they talk about the manga. But the actual manga title probably won't change.

Skyrius
August 26, 2010, 02:33 AM
Hm, name change or not, I don't think it matters XD

Although, just to note, isn't the only time a manga name changes when it changes magazines, right?

Anyways, going back, am I the only one who thinks that the biggest change isn't going to be about Luffy's crew (granted, they will all have matured and grown) but rather the state of the world itself? I mean, Blackbeard with a 2 year leave, Whitebeard dead, Sengoku and Garp stepping down, Smoker going to the New World. I can't help but feel that the biggest haul over is going to be the One Piece world status quo itself.

JetPistol
August 26, 2010, 09:34 AM
Now we finally know what Oda meant when in Strong World he said "This is Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old boy"

and here i was getting shut down by the idea of a timeskip a couple months ago because of this line lol

Geez
August 26, 2010, 12:05 PM
Anyways, going back, am I the only one who thinks that the biggest change isn't going to be about Luffy's crew (granted, they will all have matured and grown) but rather the state of the world itself?

You're right and I think that's really refreshing for the manga!
In 2 years, many things can happen on Grand Line: Return of Enel and his "army", RA new moves, Moria's reappearance (yeah i like the invisible lion guy theory :p) but imo the most intriguing thing is how the WG will handle the ex lvl 6 prisoners.

Lunatic Scream
August 26, 2010, 12:46 PM
I predict:
Fleet Admiral Akainu. Sure Aokiji was recommended, but given the Gorousei's view on things, Akainu's the truly effective marine. The marines will have been transformed into a cold-blooded ruthlessly efficient pirate killing organization under his leadership.
Vice-Admiral Coby.
(Admiral Smoker?)

Lord Rayleigh
August 26, 2010, 12:51 PM
I predict:
Fleet Admiral Akainu. Sure Aokiji was recommended, but given the Gorousei's view on things, Akainu's the truly effective marine.
Actually, we don't have any damn information on who the Gorusei would prefer as the next Fleet Admiral. I bet we'll know in one month. Let's wait.

Wolf D. Arius
August 26, 2010, 12:52 PM
I dont think the Gorusei would hold Akainu "on the line", if you know what i mean. Hes more valuable as a fighter, hunting down everybody who is a thread to the WG and the Nobles.

GreeTz Wolf

Fox666
August 26, 2010, 01:53 PM
Well, Sengoku also was a powerfull fighter before. I don't know why transfer such an powerfull individual to "bureaucratic" jobs, however they do so.

Fleet Admiral is who control the marines, and Akainu as the leader would represent the brutality it evolved after the death of Whitebeard. The marines now must do something about the New World islands left by Whitebeard, and the pirates inspired by his last words.

Aokiji, on the other hand, would represent that the marines become more lazy and slow...?

Skyrius
August 26, 2010, 03:49 PM
In my personal opinion, Aokiji becoming Fleet Admiral wouldn't so much be "lazy" as remaining status quo. He's not ruthless like Akainu, but shows the same determination to stop pirates as Sengoku does. However, he has a sense of morality and honor, which would be essential to stop the Marines from becoming complete monsters in the eyes of the readers. Also, I think having Aokiji become Fleet Admiral has the most potential for the story in the long run. Having Akainu, who's so set and single-minded kind of forces Oda's hand to write in a certain way.

Well, I could always be wrong, but that's just my take XP

Sunrise
August 26, 2010, 04:19 PM
Since marines are the bad guys, why not put "the baddest" (akainu) at charge? would make sense, btw aokiji might be a lazy guy, but giving orders and thinking strategies and such he could be really good.

weird_pirate
August 26, 2010, 07:00 PM
mayb chopper will look more uncute so like mayb??

goldb
August 26, 2010, 07:38 PM
I hope the physical appearance isn't too noticeable and different from the characters we fell in love with. I'd hate to see a less cute version of Chopper :(

Aikidoka
August 26, 2010, 07:42 PM
Akainu shouldn't be Fleet Admiral. From what we've seen so far the Fleet Admiral mostly does desk work. Akainu should be out there committing the acts of brutality to stay the monster we've come to view him as. It would be more effective IMO.

kkck
August 26, 2010, 08:15 PM
I get the impression oda intents to reboot the entire series with the timeskip so perhaps adding something to the title would fit.

JesseZojo
August 27, 2010, 02:40 AM
I'm not familiar with other manga series and how they did their timeskips...but this is Oda. He won't do anything just because someone else did it. Anytime there's been a time change in the narrative "A few days later/ago"...well, should be just about like that...just two years instead. No need to introduce new characters..no need to reintroduce familiar characters (except with a DON!).

Newkerzy
August 28, 2010, 06:34 AM
Regarding Aokiji as Fleet Admiral, I think Sengoku has ulterior motives. This is a theory I've had in mind for a while, I think Sengoku has foreseen that one day BB will be stopped. And he knows that the day when that comes is the day when the Marines & Pirates form a temporary treaty in order to stop BB. Sengoku knows exactly how dangerous he is. That's why Sengoku placed Aokiji as Fleet Admiral because Aokiji is a pretty open-minded person. One of the reasons why Sengoku prefers Aokiji is because he was Garp's pupil. Garp was an open-minded person who doesn't always follow the rules. He disobeyed the order to kill Ace & Rouge. This is where Garp's influence on Aokiji lies. In other words, if they wanted to take BB down one day, they need someone like Aokiji at the top so both sides can cooperate. Aokiji respected Luffy a lot, just like Garp respected Roger & fulfilled his last wishes.

You know where I'm going with this, right?
Luffy will obviously try & take down BB, but he would need the cooperation of the Marines to do so. From what we've seen at Impel Down & Aokiji's comments of Luffy's ability to make anyone into his allies even though they don't realize it, clearly foreshadows the partnership with the Marines.

zerocooldx
August 28, 2010, 11:05 PM
Is it just me or did Rayleigh not really explain how the Conqueror Haki (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/16) was going to be useful in battles against decently strong opponents? I mean yeah i get that it can take out all of the weaklings and save the user the trouble of physically taking them out. But i guess i just don't see much more use for it at this point.

jimm120
August 28, 2010, 11:54 PM
Is it just me or did Rayleigh not really explain how the Conqueror Haki (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/16) was going to be useful in battles against decently strong opponents? I mean yeah i get that it can take out all of the weaklings and save the user the trouble of physically taking them out. But i guess i just don't see much more use for it at this point.

Hence why it'll be the one Luffy gravitates to. Its the "most powerful" but all he said was, "oh, you have experienced this one". There's more to it.

Uriel
August 29, 2010, 12:09 AM
Is it just me or did Rayleigh not really explain how the Conqueror Haki (http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/16) was going to be useful in battles against decently strong opponents? I mean yeah i get that it can take out all of the weaklings and save the user the trouble of physically taking them out. But i guess i just don't see much more use for it at this point.
It's the basics. And not so many people has it, so it may be weird to be developed in other ways.

Anyway, I think it has to do with forcing things unlikely to happen to happen. And yes, I think Luffy luck has to do with this.

hy4k
August 29, 2010, 10:12 AM
i dont necessary think conqueror haki is that useful in one on one battles. it's only use would be to intimidate people like shanks did. other than that it seems invaluable when facing armies

Josl
August 29, 2010, 12:00 PM
i dont necessary think conqueror haki is that useful in one on one battles. it's only use would be to intimidate people like shanks did. other than that it seems invaluable when facing armies

Every time Luffy used the conqueror haki every body was shocked and scared. Even Admirals:
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+570&page=1&next=true
Just think about it. One Piece is a shonen battle manga. It's protagonist has the rarest type of power possible.
OF COURSE it will be the most usefull and strongest type of haki for combat. Making people faint is just basic. Like the gum gum fruit gives you the basic ability to stretch but look what luffy was able to do with this kind of ability

Aikidoka
August 29, 2010, 12:26 PM
Like jimm says, it's only the basics so I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy came up with new and inventive ways to use it. Also agreed with Josl's comment -- Luffy's ingenious when it comes to his powers, so Conqueror Haki will definitely see much more than its basic use.

I also think Conqueror Haki's use is much more valuable in army settings than people think -- think of the WB War. Whitebeard could shrug off pretty much all the fodder attacks that came his way, but I'd bet that they at least contributed something to his eventual defeat. If he had been in "peak" condition (even with the sickness), he probably could have fought Akainu on more equal grounds.

That's where Conqueror Haki comes into play -- take out all the annoying fodder first so you can concentrate your max abilities on the deadlier opponents.

Skyrius
August 29, 2010, 01:43 PM
There's already been a whole argument over the uses of Conqueror's haki here:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63701

XD But to reiterate, think about Water 7 and Enies Lobby and Shabondy. Getting rid of cannon fodder quickly is essential in timed events. Likewise, Luffy's level of haki has been shown to be enough to take out New World pirates allied with Whitebeard and elite Marine soldiers from HQ (yes, yes, they're still cannon fodder, but it's the thought that counts). Besides, as Law's pirates mentioned, when Rayleigh unleashed his Conqueror's haki, a couple of them almost fainted. So if it can distract a stronger enemy for even a second, at a high stakes, high level battle, a moments hesitation is enough to turn the tide.

zerocooldx
August 29, 2010, 02:05 PM
Is there any real doubt that Smoker won't be promoted to at least a Rear Admiral once he eventually is permitted to transfer over to the G-5 Marine base in the New World?

I would like to say that he will end up being a Vice Admiral, but we don't know if any of the Vice Admirals will be promoted to Admiral. And in all likely hood there won't be any promoted. Plus Smoker himself has stated that there are those weaker then him who hold higher positions. So that could also play a bit of a factor in him chasing promotions, since he really doesn't seem to be into that. I also expect Smoker to not use his Jute anymore, seeing as how it was broken by Hancock. And i think after two years in hard NW conditions he will be strong enough to use the Haki of Armament.

Geez
August 30, 2010, 05:50 PM
Does anyone know whether Tom (water7 arc) has been executed or just tossed in impel down ?
Well, if he was in prison, he might have seized the opportunity to escape like the other level 6 and be on his way to FI... just random tought, sorry if it's stupid !

Oni_James
August 30, 2010, 06:24 PM
Does anyone know whether Tom (water7 arc) has been executed or just tossed in impel down ?
Well, if he was in prison, he might have seized the opportunity to escape like the other level 6 and be on his way to FI... just random tought, sorry if it's stupid !
He was executed. According to wikia (and i remember from the manga, tomorrow i may look for the specific page where it happened):
"Tom was escorted on the sea train he built to Enies Lobby, where he was allegedly executed shortly thereafter."
But it would be nice if he had been tossed in impel down and now he'd be free. He didn't deserve what happened to him...

kkck
August 30, 2010, 09:02 PM
I don't think tom was tossed to ID. I would think the WG would have thought of him roughly the same way as an actual roger pirate which means basically he would have been executed as soon as possible.

luffyq1
August 30, 2010, 11:50 PM
Regarding Aokiji as Fleet Admiral, I think Sengoku has ulterior motives. This is a theory I've had in mind for a while, I think Sengoku has foreseen that one day BB will be stopped. And he knows that the day when that comes is the day when the Marines & Pirates form a temporary treaty in order to stop BB. Sengoku knows exactly how dangerous he is. That's why Sengoku placed Aokiji as Fleet Admiral because Aokiji is a pretty open-minded person. One of the reasons why Sengoku prefers Aokiji is because he was Garp's pupil. Garp was an open-minded person who doesn't always follow the rules. He disobeyed the order to kill Ace & Rouge. This is where Garp's influence on Aokiji lies. In other words, if they wanted to take BB down one day, they need someone like Aokiji at the top so both sides can cooperate. Aokiji respected Luffy a lot, just like Garp respected Roger & fulfilled his last wishes.

You know where I'm going with this, right?
Luffy will obviously try & take down BB, but he would need the cooperation of the Marines to do so. From what we've seen at Impel Down & Aokiji's comments of Luffy's ability to make anyone into his allies even though they don't realize it, clearly foreshadows the partnership with the Marines.

wait a minute, when did Aokiji ever admit to respecting luffy?? and Aokiji never said that luffy has the ability to make everyone into his allies, Mihawk was the one who said that not Aokiji.

elitefox
August 31, 2010, 12:43 AM
Like jimm says, it's only the basics so I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy came up with new and inventive ways to use it. Also agreed with Josl's comment -- Luffy's ingenious when it comes to his powers, so Conqueror Haki will definitely see much more than its basic use.

I also think Conqueror Haki's use is much more valuable in army settings than people think -- think of the WB War. Whitebeard could shrug off pretty much all the fodder attacks that came his way, but I'd bet that they at least contributed something to his eventual defeat. If he had been in "peak" condition (even with the sickness), he probably could have fought Akainu on more equal grounds.

That's where Conqueror Haki comes into play -- take out all the annoying fodder first so you can concentrate your max abilities on the deadlier opponents.


Lol, WB is even stabbed to the heart.

I guess Rayleigh gives Luffy this assignment and let luffy find it out for himself. I just wonder if the haki of armor can be shaped? or it takes shape just extending your body, you know like a bigger hand or gloves.

thus make luffy's punches sharper and not blunt attack.


I wonder if the other supernova can learn haki.

zerocooldx
August 31, 2010, 12:57 AM
wait a minute, when did Aokiji ever admit to respecting luffy?? and Aokiji never said that luffy has the ability to make everyone into his allies, Mihawk was the one who said that not Aokiji.

Yeah as far as i remember Aokiji said due to his respect and admiration for Garp, or something along those lines, that he would basically let Luffy off the hook for that one time. And the only thing about friendship or making allies that Aokiji spoke of i believe was only to Robin, which was basically about her finding people who genuinely care for her and whatnot. So ya all in all Aokiji gave them all a one time free pass. So the next time they meet i seriously doubt that he will be very civil towards them.
[hr]

I wonder if the other supernova can learn haki.

I think that the other SN's will definitely learn Haki through their adventures and battles across the NW. Oda has sort of branded them with the title of next generation top dogs. So i'm sure they will make just a much progress as the SH's do in terns of strength. Its just that they have the luxury of being able to travel freely without the full force of the Marines and WG coming down on top of them.

hdiuy
August 31, 2010, 09:34 AM
I get a feeling that after the timeskip the Supernovas won't be called the Supernovas. I'm looking forward to see new pirates, marines, Shichibukais etc. I think that 2 years later, some of the supernovas will be gone or basically won't make it big like some of them wanted.

Uriel
August 31, 2010, 09:37 AM
I think that the Supernovas tittle will stay for a while, as the honorific tittle of the "challengers" of the proclaimed strongest pirates in the sea. That include Shichibukai and Yonkous.

And my bet is that only 4 supernovas will make it to true fame.

Skyrius
August 31, 2010, 02:29 PM
I doubt all the Supernova will still retain their title in two years, especially with the crazy stuff that's been going down in the One Piece world. Law and Kidd seem to have the most potential, while Bonney and Bebe seem potentially out of the run (depending on what exactly it was that sucked up Bebe's ship). The others are still up in the air.

I most curious about Drake, since he obviously knows more about the Marines (like the Pacifista project) and about the Yonkou (he seems to be purposely inciting Kaidou by attacking that island), so I'm hoping he plays some part in exposition in the upcoming chapters. Maybe give the reader hints about the other things the government is hiding.

kkck
August 31, 2010, 03:46 PM
I can't help but wonder what exactly happened to the supernova at this point. Kid seems ok so far but I have no doubt in my mind he will soon enough get the shit beat out of him by a NW pirate of average power or he will incur the wrath of a yonkou. Hawkins seems to have gotten in a fight with a pirate with an 80 mil bounty but his victory is not assured. It'd be interesting if he was actually defeated. I find it interesting hawkings ran into a pirate with an 80 mil bounty in the first island he visited in the NW though, even if he lucks out against brownbeard he is bound to have trouble soon. Seriously, if the first bounty he found in the NW was 80 mil then I would not be surprised in the least if bounties above the 100 mil are average. Bege seems in trouble although he is not necessarily done for. I'd think he just ran into a weird island and will have trouble escaping.

zerocooldx
August 31, 2010, 05:27 PM
Anyone think that after the two year time skip Luffy will end up looking like Oda had originally drawn him back in Romance Dawn (http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc114/zerocooldx/Avatar%20Stocks/OlderLuffy.png)? I think that would be pretty cool and sort of bring things full circle for Oda and the manga.

Geez
August 31, 2010, 08:30 PM
Thx Oni_James and Kkck !

Dunno if luffy will change like in romance dawn, i mean, i hope not 'cause 20 years old is still young for that kind of look in OP's world... but that would be a nice way to show his growth!
(I'm also pretty impatient to finally see Elbaf, and how Usopp will react there^^)

Ah and, maybe this is nothing but i noticed that the starfish talked about the Fishman princess. Dunno if it was an hint (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-497/page010.html) but i hope the next arc will show her!

Kaiser Will
August 31, 2010, 09:40 PM
For the break we prepare some specials thread to discuss what will come up in the story.

1. For general prediction, everything plot related and more. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63638) OP Spoiler & Chapter Discussion Board
2. For predicting next adventures and locations. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63870) OP Main Board
3. For predict characters, allies and enemies (here include the SH new appearance). (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63758) OP TOK Board

Don't forget to read the first post to understand what was changed in the thread!

Rosebullet Teacher
August 31, 2010, 11:49 PM
Garps gotta find a way to enjoy his retirement, Coby needs to get stronger to challenge Luffy, so why doesnt Garp retake Coby under his wing on a calm collected voyage......To CAPTURE level 6 prisoners! Badass, also Crocodile has got to get his rep back up i cant see him being the ruthless Croc we know now that WB is gone & he shows a bit of concern for Daz Bones, but if he still is hes gotta seek out a battle with a Yonkou. Other hand maybe that dream of being a superhero makes him a little less likely to randomly disembowel people. Either way I hope hes back on One Pieces trail, taking ass & kicking names...did i say that right?
FuS

zerocooldx
August 31, 2010, 11:54 PM
Garps gotta find a way to enjoy his retirement, Coby needs to get stronger to challenge Luffy, so why doesnt Garp retake Coby under his wing on a calm collected voyage......To CAPTURE level 6 prisoners! Badass, also Crocodile has got to get his rep back up i cant see him being the ruthless Croc we know now that WB is gone & he shows a bit of concern for Daz Bones, but if he still is hes gotta seek out a battle with a Yonkou. Other hand maybe that dream of being a superhero makes him a little less likely to randomly disembowel people. Either way I hope hes back on One Pieces trail, taking ass & kicking names...did i say that right?
FuS

I actually think that Garp and Sengoku partly retired/resigned because of the stance that the WG took of the level 6 ID prisoners. Basically the WG seems to have said that they are going to ignore and keep under wraps what happened in ID in terms of those level 6 escaped prisoners. So i wouldn't be surprised at all to see Garp and Sengoku privately attempt to track and take down those escaped level 6 ID prisoners on their own time.

Rosebullet Teacher
September 01, 2010, 12:33 AM
Take Coby along & threes company Garp still probably doesnt like Luffy being a pirate so Cobys gotta inherit his will it dont matter how it happens but im dying to see the Luffy v Coby high level battle
FuS

elitefox
September 01, 2010, 02:48 AM
Take Coby along & threes company Garp still probably doesnt like Luffy being a pirate so Cobys gotta inherit his will it dont matter how it happens but im dying to see the Luffy v Coby high level battle
FuS


It would be funny if all that garp trained becomes a pirate lol

Coby for pirate :D


On second, nah, he is too shy to be a pirate and might end up like usopp thus a strong marine would fit him much better:D

Freuk
September 01, 2010, 09:27 AM
What bugs me about Coby, even if I like him, is that he reacts like a little girl to his COO (yeah, like Aisa)...
Also, and correct me if i'm wrong, Haki means "willpower" or something alike. So the three colors are just 3 parts of a whole. And what's terrifying marines about luffy is that his raw power, revealed with Haoushoku, is huge.

MihawkAce
September 01, 2010, 11:21 AM
Wow the break is finally confirmed. :(
3 issues without it, quite painful. I'm hopping for a big chapter.

So yeah hitting the bell 16 times should mean at least 16 weeks of training before the rendez vous. I can't see them training or doing other stuff for only 16 days, so it has to be weeks or months (can't be years ><).

actually the 16 time he hit the bell dont mean anything if you read the last manga its says that everything luffy did was just to distract and get the navy confused while his real message was on his arm as a tatoo that had 3D crosed out and 2Y below it meaning that they wouldnt meet in 3 days as they had planned but instead in 2 years

Zoro #1
September 01, 2010, 11:33 AM
Oda really knows when to do a timeskip. Ihad thought that this timeskip would be like naruto where it wasn't discussed much and didn't have much to predict onn or like Bleach where an arc just starts randomly. but Oda has really outdone himself this time with just excellent timing and a plot from where the story can proceed in any direction.

Now this is what I call a genius, who reallt knows who to create a plot and suspense. Bravo to Oda

Anyone think Luffy or Zoro gonna get a cape or ussop gonna get that black armor.

Kaiten
September 01, 2010, 11:34 PM
Thx Oni_James and Kkck !

Dunno if luffy will change like in romance dawn, i mean, i hope not 'cause 20 years old is still young for that kind of look in OP's world... but that would be a nice way to show his growth!
(I'm also pretty impatient to finally see Elbaf, and how Usopp will react there^^)

Ah and, maybe this is nothing but i noticed that the starfish talked about the Fishman princess. Dunno if it was an hint (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-497/page010.html) but i hope the next arc will show her!

I'm guessing the part II will start with a Fshman island arc, rather than going directly to the New World. All the set up before the Straw Hats were dispersed, the island losing White Beards protection, and Jinbei's parting words to Luffy point in the direction of a full arc. The Fishman Princess will probably factor in to that somehow.

Skyrius
September 01, 2010, 11:56 PM
What bugs me about Coby, even if I like him, is that he reacts like a little girl to his COO (yeah, like Aisa)...
Also, and correct me if i'm wrong, Haki means "willpower" or something alike. So the three colors are just 3 parts of a whole. And what's terrifying marines about luffy is that his raw power, revealed with Haoushoku, is huge.

Really? That's actually one of the scenes that really stood out for me and made me love him even more.

Coby standing up to Akainu proved how much more badass he had grown, that the little cabin boy that used to quake under Alvida's rule had matured into an upstanding Marine willing to take a stand and die in order to try and save the lives of all the Marines who were being needlessly sacrificed.

However, he's always had a kind heart and him crying over the fact that he can hear people's voices disappearing from his mind shows his empathy for others's suffering and how he hasn't lost his kindness or his morality. It shows how he's stayed the same, caring for others and not wanting to have any regrets.

Besides, he couldn't control his haki. Imagine, in the MIDDLE OF A WAR, with people dropping dead faster than flies, having an uncontrollable power that forces you to hear their cries disappearing one by one. I think that'd shake anyone up.

The reason I've always liked Coby so much is that he represents what I believe the Marines should be like. Dedicated to good rather than absolute Justice. I mean, even Smoker and Tashigi realized something was wrong, but Coby was the only one to speak up about it.

Personally, I salute him for his crazy suicidal courage and kind heart. <3

elitefox
September 02, 2010, 04:42 AM
Oda really knows when to do a timeskip. Ihad thought that this timeskip would be like naruto where it wasn't discussed much and didn't have much to predict onn or like Bleach where an arc just starts randomly. but Oda has really outdone himself this time with just excellent timing and a plot from where the story can proceed in any direction.

Now this is what I call a genius, who reallt knows who to create a plot and suspense. Bravo to Oda

Anyone think Luffy or Zoro gonna get a cape or ussop gonna get that black armor.

you mean like this:

http://www.actionhq.com/store/images/rah_mask_rider_kabuto.jpg
:D:tem:blink:eyeroll:):amuse
[hr]

Really? That's actually one of the scenes that really stood out for me and made me love him even more.

Coby standing up to Akainu proved how much more badass he had grown, that the little cabin boy that used to quake under Alvida's rule had matured into an upstanding Marine willing to take a stand and die in order to try and save the lives of all the Marines who were being needlessly sacrificed.

However, he's always had a kind heart and him crying over the fact that he can hear people's voices disappearing from his mind shows his empathy for others's suffering and how he hasn't lost his kindness or his morality. It shows how he's stayed the same, caring for others and not wanting to have any regrets.

Besides, he couldn't control his haki. Imagine, in the MIDDLE OF A WAR, with people dropping dead faster than flies, having an uncontrollable power that forces you to hear their cries disappearing one by one. I think that'd shake anyone up.

The reason I've always liked Coby so much is that he represents what I believe the Marines should be like. Dedicated to good rather than absolute Justice. I mean, even Smoker and Tashigi realized something was wrong, but Coby was the only one to speak up about it.

Personally, I salute him for his crazy suicidal courage and kind heart. <3


And the most bad ass is that a pirate is defending him from his supposedly comrade/ally lol

goldb
September 02, 2010, 05:38 AM
I don't think Shanks is the sort of pirate that would attack Marines without a valuable reason.

Both him and Coby realised that after WB's death, anymore bloodshed was just ridiculous and the Marines were getting out of hand. Smoker and Tashigi too realised this, but their hatred of pirates I think got the better of their rationality.

chess4
September 02, 2010, 06:06 AM
Oda really knows when to do a timeskip. Ihad thought that this timeskip would be like naruto where it wasn't discussed much and didn't have much to predict onn or like Bleach where an arc just starts randomly. but Oda has really outdone himself this time with just excellent timing and a plot from where the story can proceed in any direction.

Now this is what I call a genius, who reallt knows who to create a plot and suspense. Bravo to Oda

Anyone think Luffy or Zoro gonna get a cape or ussop gonna get that black armor.

i dont think zoro will get a cape...............i think the cape is reserved for the strongest and zoro will not get until he becomes the strongest.

usopp may get some type of armor or new mask........hopefully he doesnt have a mask, so he can be recognized as usopp instead if sogeking

Lord Rayleigh
September 02, 2010, 07:02 AM
The supernovae have different possible future :
become an Emperor - there may be more than 4 Emperors
become a Shichibukai
become part of an Emperor's crew or of an Emperor's allies
become a powerful independent pirate captain
leave New World and stop being a pirate
be captured by the Marine
be killed


There are 8 crews' fate to decide - I don't count the Straw Hats, and Killer is Kid's nakama.

kidopitz27
September 02, 2010, 07:36 AM
i think after this time skip we will see luffy and rayleigh have a sparring match using haki and luffy used his kings haki and rayleigh is on his knees or nearly lost consciousness

as rayleigh stated the kings haki is more powerful if the user has a lot of spirit and personal growth so 2 years will suffice for this kind of training to power up his king haki

or maybe kings haki is just a basic form and there is a second level of kings haki that would be cool

Zoro #1
September 02, 2010, 08:57 AM
you mean like this:

http://www.actionhq.com/store/images/rah_mask_rider_kabuto.jpg
:D:tem:blink:eyeroll:):amuse
<hr noshade size="1">

Well, but he still has to do one of those corny power rangers song if he wears that type of armor:p

Bugzee
September 02, 2010, 09:04 AM
It seems as though X Drake is after Kadiou's head. Will he defeat him? I don't think so. It might be the case where he just wants to talk to him about a certain issue/development but tbh I can only see him as a supportive ally to a Yonkou. No more than that.

I can't see Law or Kidd agreeing to and coming to terms of taking commands from another pirate be it an Emperor or not. So I say neither of them will become an ally to a Yonkou. Then again, it also depends on the terms and conditions of their said "partnership" lol. :tem

Zoro #1
September 02, 2010, 09:09 AM
So as we have seen so far, shanks posses the COQ as shown in the whole meeting with white beard thing where he slightly damaged the ship. So by looking at that it seems that COQ is much like the spiritual pressure from bleach. that when a strong spirited persons uses it, it completely crushes the spirit of an weak person and so they faint, but if Luffy is to grow his spirits strength (like shanks) then the COQ can also be used as a weapon that not only crushes spirit but can damage or destroy things like shanks did with the ship.
[hr]

It seems as though X Drake is after Kadiou's head. Will he defeat him? I don't think so. It might be the case where he just wants to talk to him about a certain issue/development but tbh I can only see him as a supportive ally to a Yonkou. No more than that.

I can't see Law or Kidd agreeing to and coming to terms of taking commands from another pirate be it an Emperor or not. So I say neither of them will become an ally to a Yonkou. Then again, it also depends on the terms and conditions of their said "partnership" lol. :tem

Drake might be showing his power to kadiou, by beating one of kadiou's men, he wants to send a message to him that he can be a better use to him than some of these weakling that are guarding his territory.

Plus i agree that neither kid nor law seem to be the kind of people who will serve under someone.

goldb
September 02, 2010, 09:59 AM
I don't really see any of the Supernova becoming Emperor or Shichbukai, at the most I think a few of them will become established crews within the NW; some through their own efforts and maybe one or two by becoming associated with a particular Emperor. I think by the time we return, though it wouldn't be his goal, Blackbeard would be considered the 4th yonkou replacing Whitebeard and having claimed many of his territories...

Kckk mentioned in another thread that by then all the Shichibukai seats would've been filled, maybe by NW pirates who want to escape from the increased instability in that part of the sea or something.

OdaForPresident
September 02, 2010, 03:21 PM
So, my predications for the upcoming 50 chapters or so.

First the reunion at shabondy, I'm guessing they'll arrive in opposite order. So brook first and zoro last.

Then they'll find out that the sunny's been taken away. My guess is that the marines stowed it at their shabondy base. So its break in time!

They bust into the base, loads of fodder marines swarm the SH and Luffy takes them all out with his haki. Then the rest of the crew takes out the PX's that guard the ship.

The sunny is still coated so after a quick goodbye they take off. Underwater they will be attacked by a huge sea king. Which Luffy will again take out using his haki.

Arrival at FI, its in a state of war. Pirates on the one side, Jimbei and some fishmen on the other. Quick reunion and then the SH proceed to kick pirate but. Afterwards they put up the Straw Hat flag. Putting the island under Luffy's protection. Then it's off to the New World. Jimbei joins the crew.

Duc :D
September 02, 2010, 03:24 PM
Im almost sure Jimbei won't join..., but Im sure Luffy will recruit a fish for his crew

chess4
September 02, 2010, 04:28 PM
So, my predications for the upcoming 50 chapters or so.

First the reunion at shabondy, I'm guessing they'll arrive in opposite order. So brook first and zoro last.

Then they'll find out that the sunny's been taken away. My guess is that the marines stowed it at their shabondy base. So its break in time!

They bust into the base, loads of fodder marines swarm the SH and Luffy takes them all out with his haki. Then the rest of the crew takes out the PX's that guard the ship.

The sunny is still coated so after a quick goodbye they take off. Underwater they will be attacked by a huge sea king. Which Luffy will again take out using his haki.

Arrival at FI, its in a state of war. Pirates on the one side, Jimbei and some fishmen on the other. Quick reunion and then the SH proceed to kick pirate but. Afterwards they put up the Straw Hat flag. Putting the island under Luffy's protection. Then it's off to the New World. Jimbei joins the crew.


for sure cammi, pappagg, and hachi will go to fushman island with them. they promised to show them how 2 get there. maybe rayleigh and shakki sail around looking for the rogers old crew members.

i do think FI will come under attack and i young fishman will catch luffys eye. luffy will ask him to join, but of course he will not because he hates humans for the way they treat fishman. the strawhats will defend FI and the young fishman will change his mind about the strawhats and join them.

i like the idea of luffy placing his flag out front to protect the island. should be enough scare a crew coming from the 4 seas heading to the new world.
[hr]
i really wish oda would just give us some hint of something to come. like if there is going to be a new member?

well he did give us a hint at the skip, but most of us didnt bleive it

hy4k
September 03, 2010, 07:54 PM
I hope that the revolutionary army does something worth a hist

all they've done so far is sit on their fat asses eating french bon bons

Freuk
September 03, 2010, 08:09 PM
My prediction for the next major arc is that the RA (with Sabo) and the SH are going to fight against Doflamingo and the wG (my guess; mysterious guy in touch with Dofla is Stelly, Sabo's adopted brother. He'll be the new Spandam). Now why Major? because it will happen long after their reunion, and probably after fishman island.

Now about what will happen in SA, i'm quite fond of the "SH-will-crush-the-slave-market" theory.

scyter
September 04, 2010, 05:40 AM
I know that this is a long shot but listen to this theory, now that Sengoku took the same position as Garp(http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-594/page003.html) I think that he too will train Coby and Helmeppo.

chess4
September 04, 2010, 06:19 AM
I know that this is a long shot but listen to this theory, now that Sengoku took the same position as Garp(http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-594/page003.html) I think that he too will train Coby and Helmeppo.

thats been said before but yea.....i think during the skip garp and sengoku, will train some young marines including helmelppo and koby.

i dont know what will happen but im sure the strawhats will not stay on SA 2 long. i think they will head to FI soon. i think a major arc will happen there. outside of that i dont i have no clue

Skyrius
September 04, 2010, 09:04 PM
I am SO pulling for an EPIC admiral Coby. I don't care when. I could be in the godamn epilogue for all I care. I just want to see him and Luffy duke it out as Pirate King and Admiral. Man. *daydreams*

Erp. Anyways, back on track. This is a far fling, and I mean probably much further in the manga prediction. However, I can't help but think.

Up until Shabondy, most of the arcs were self contained, with their own central plot and main villain. It's been one of the reasons One Piece hasn't REALLY had an overarching main antagonist (until recently. There's still debates about Blackbeard though). It's also managed to elude an overarching storyline, besides Luffy's desire to become Pirate King.

It wasn't until Robin's flashback that we got a look at the history of the world One Piece is in, and now recently the new revelations about the nature of what One Piece is, and the person who will "meet Roger" to inherit his will.

So I can't help but think that the recent war, Shabondy, Impel Down, all of this is the "real" kickoff to something that's going to bring the entire One Piece world into turmoil. I can't really say I have a firm theory about what it is. But I get the feeling that, rather one by in separate story arcs like what's been happening so far, the Revolutionaries, the Straw Hats, and the World Government, the Blank Century, Blackbeard, the Yonkous, and everything else. I just get the feeling somewhere there's going to be some giant revelation and event that just drags EVERYONE into some sort of chaotic explosion.

And. it. will. be. awesome.

EDIT: Ugh, this is proof I've been deprived of One Piece for too long. My brain is starting to think of more and more ridiculously convoluted subjects. >_<

PageUpgrade92
September 04, 2010, 10:17 PM
I think the first character oda will show will be Strawhat luffy....he's the protagonist..duh

As to what he'll be doing? Here's my random guess: He'll start again as in the first chapter of one piece and also when right after Thriller arc......He One Hit KO's some random monster......

@Freuk about SH crushing slave market....proly but then again proly not

I think it would be more along the lines of Luffy going whitebeard....He says

"ANYONE ATTACKING THIS LAND IS MESSIN WITH ME!" and kinda protects the people you know....

zerocooldx
September 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
Now about what will happen in SA, i'm quite fond of the "SH-will-crush-the-slave-market" theory.

Marineford is a hop skip and a jump away from SA. Meaning that when the SH's go to get the Sunny they are going to have to do it covertly. The last thing they need is to draw attention to themselves before they are out of an Admirals reach. They will be strong after their training, but not quite take on an Admiral strong.

Poneglyph420
September 05, 2010, 12:51 AM
Marineford is a hop skip and a jump away from SA. Meaning that when the SH's go to get the Sunny they are going to have to do it covertly. The last thing they need is to draw attention to themselves before they are out of an Admirals reach. They will be strong after their training, but not quite take on an Admiral strong.

I totally agree that the SH won't be strong enough to handle an Admiral after training.. While MHQ is near SA the marines wouldn't (IMO) send one of the admirals. Kizaru only came because a Tenryuubito was harmed.. If the Admirals have time like that.. wouldn't they chase people like BB or the Yonkou, or the SN...?

I don't think the SH will romp through SA and have a cup of tea on the way... But do personally suspect a challenge more like Kuma or a Shichi.

vagabond87
September 05, 2010, 06:25 AM
I hope that Zoro and Luffy next time when they see Sentomaru will own him together in an instant.. Maby they cant take out Admiral but after two years of training Luffy will be strong enough to take out PX-0 after some long, good fight.

mars0103
September 05, 2010, 06:57 AM
I have a feeling I remember a theroy about the will of D and the dragons could it be that at the end of the manga, there will be a fight to end fights I mean that the dragons because the scam that they are and the will of d is put into the goverment. This will be done by luffy finding the truth of the world and luffy being luffy will make things right.

llamapie
September 05, 2010, 09:51 AM
I predict:
Fleet Admiral Akainu. Sure Aokiji was recommended, but given the Gorousei's view on things, Akainu's the truly effective marine. The marines will have been transformed into a cold-blooded ruthlessly efficient pirate killing organization under his leadership.
Vice-Admiral Coby.
(Admiral Smoker?)

Nah its too fast for them. AT most I would say Smoker is a Rear Admiral and Coby is a captain level after this time skip.
[hr]

I have a feeling I remember a theroy about the will of D and the dragons could it be that at the end of the manga, there will be a fight to end fights I mean that the dragons because the scam that they are and the will of d is put into the goverment. This will be done by luffy finding the truth of the world and luffy being luffy will make things right.

That is one of the coolest things about Luffy. If you piss him off he will rock your face. I'm hoping this aspect doesn't change about him post time skip.

Ero-Sanji
September 05, 2010, 01:22 PM
Arrival at FI, its in a state of war. Pirates on the one side, Jimbei and some fishmen on the other. Quick reunion and then the SH proceed to kick pirate but. Afterwards they put up the Straw Hat flag. Putting the island under Luffy's protection. Then it's off to the New World. Jimbei joins the crew.

Since the first time I heard that the Island was under the protection of WB I knew or at least predicted that it might be under the SH's sometime after WB's death.

Though I think that it will be occupied rather than in a war.

The four latest members to join have all been on an own side rather than on the enemie's or Luffy's, so I think this one will also be quite against Luffy like Franky but unlike the four latest she(hopefully) will surely be a pest and sabotage for the group.

But slowly she will recognize him as a good person and then at the very end she will help the crew. As for Jinbei he will be the de facto protector of the Island while the SH's will be the spoken ones.

I wonder though what fish she would be?

bittman
September 06, 2010, 07:13 AM
Since we've got a month to kill:

Fishman Island prediction: Jimbei v Luffy.

A lot can change in two years, and will Jimbei really be the same man after 2 more years of no WB protection and marines chasing pirates through FI, wrecking the place again?

I could go so far as to say that MHQ/WG will strike a new deal with Jimbei for protection in order to completely block the FI entrance to the New World for pirates. It's not impossible to imagine, and Jimbei appears to be the type that could quite easily be manouvred into an unfavourable position where he had to strike a deal with WG which reinstates his Shichibukai status and causes him to fight against Luffy.

Now that's a sort of long term prediction unlike all this "Post timeskip, the Strawhat's are going to 1HKO everything and the story will be over in 15 chapters because there's nothing left on their level."

Short term prediction: They'll leave Shabondy without much happening. We've had enough excitement on that island.

Geez
September 06, 2010, 09:24 AM
In this page (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-456/page017.html) Moria talks about an old country of brigands.
Since we didn't see it in the first half of the manga, I think we'll see it in the New World. Maybe this is where most of the wanted criminals went after impel down.

Bugzee
September 06, 2010, 04:01 PM
In this page (http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-456/page017.html) Moria talks about an old country of brigands.
Since we didn't see it in the first half of the manga, I think we'll see it in the New World. Maybe this is where most of the wanted criminals went after impel down.

That's most interesting and I can actually see it occurring later on in OP. Oars' history and origins will most definitely be revealed soon; it's a must imho! As for the level 6 prisoners...surely some of them may reunite or form new pirate crews...one or two may have had some relationship/connection to a Yonkou.

The country Moria was referring too seems to be the real deal in the NW. Who knows what kind of freakish/twisted characters live there lol hahaha.

luffyq1
September 07, 2010, 08:47 AM
I am SO pulling for an EPIC admiral Coby. I don't care when. I could be in the godamn epilogue for all I care. I just want to see him and Luffy duke it out as Pirate King and Admiral. Man. *daydreams*

Erp. Anyways, back on track. This is a far fling, and I mean probably much further in the manga prediction. However, I can't help but think.

Up until Shabondy, most of the arcs were self contained, with their own central plot and main villain. It's been one of the reasons One Piece hasn't REALLY had an overarching main antagonist (until recently. There's still debates about Blackbeard though). It's also managed to elude an overarching storyline, besides Luffy's desire to become Pirate King.

It wasn't until Robin's flashback that we got a look at the history of the world One Piece is in, and now recently the new revelations about the nature of what One Piece is, and the person who will "meet Roger" to inherit his will.

So I can't help but think that the recent war, Shabondy, Impel Down, all of this is the "real" kickoff to something that's going to bring the entire One Piece world into turmoil. I can't really say I have a firm theory about what it is. But I get the feeling that, rather one by in separate story arcs like what's been happening so far, the Revolutionaries, the Straw Hats, and the World Government, the Blank Century, Blackbeard, the Yonkous, and everything else. I just get the feeling somewhere there's going to be some giant revelation and event that just drags EVERYONE into some sort of chaotic explosion.

And. it. will. be. awesome.

EDIT: Ugh, this is proof I've been deprived of One Piece for too long. My brain is starting to think of more and more ridiculously convoluted subjects. >_<

Coby managed to do a lot of growing in a short amount of time, but I think you're seriously overestimating him. He got taken down with a single punch. He didn't even get one attack in. We haven't seen a fight where he didn't get his ass handed to him, and according to Rayleigh, there's only so much you can train it in two years. He'll get stronger, but not to that level.

I don't think he'll ever be as strong as Luffy. I see Smoker as more of a Garp-role to Luffy's Roger-role.

Santoryu
September 07, 2010, 08:53 AM
Since we've got a month to kill:

Fishman Island prediction: Jimbei v Luffy.

A lot can change in two years, and will Jimbei really be the same man after 2 more years of no WB protection and marines chasing pirates through FI, wrecking the place again?

I could go so far as to say that MHQ/WG will strike a new deal with Jimbei for protection in order to completely block the FI entrance to the New World for pirates. It's not impossible to imagine, and Jimbei appears to be the type that could quite easily be manouvred into an unfavourable position where he had to strike a deal with WG which reinstates his Shichibukai status and causes him to fight against Luffy.

Now that's a sort of long term prediction unlike all this "Post timeskip, the Strawhat's are going to 1HKO everything and the story will be over in 15 chapters because there's nothing left on their level."

Short term prediction: They'll leave Shabondy without much happening. We've had enough excitement on that island.

I could see more of a jinbei's son/daughter ending up being added to the strawhat crew once they get to fishman island. I think that even if pressure is applied to jinbei, his ideals are stronger, heck he refused to fight even if it meant his death with the whole ace/whitebeard issue. The more I think about a new member of the strawhats, I think it would not be jimbei himself, but either a former member of his crew or his son/daughter. This way there is still the attachment of jimbei without having to have a former Shichibukai in SH crew.

Skyrius
September 07, 2010, 07:10 PM
I can't see Luffy fighting Jinbei, even if Jinbei himself is in a position where he feels the need to fight Luffy, which I doubt as well. Luffy just isn't the type of person to fight someone who helped him, no matter what. Especially since Jinbei tried to help him save Ace.

That being said, I think that 2 years is enough to degenerate Fishman Island back into a warzone, so I can definitely see an arc focusing on a way to resolve that. While most people seem to think that Luffy will do something similar to Whitebeard and declare the island under his protection. However, I have a hard time seeing how that would work since, despite all the infamy he's racketed up recently, he's still considered a "rookie", someone who hasn't even experience the horrors of the New World. No matter how you look at it, he doesn't have the exposure or reputation that Whitebeard had. For example, one of the Yonkou declaring an island under their protection would draw attention and most likely deter most attackers (any of the Yonkou really) and the islands allied with the World Government retain that protection. That being said, Whitebeard was the "strongest man in the world". Luffy's not going to achieve that level of power in two years, otherwise...we wouldn't have much of a manga, would we?

So I think there has to be some other sort of resolution to the situation for Fishman Island. Possible FI might even become the way Luffy gains exposure to the rest of the world, by resolving some way of keeping it protected.

mars0103
September 08, 2010, 08:32 AM
I can't see Luffy fighting Jinbei, even if Jinbei himself is in a position where he feels the need to fight Luffy, which I doubt as well. Luffy just isn't the type of person to fight someone who helped him, no matter what. Especially since Jinbei tried to help him save Ace.

That being said, I think that 2 years is enough to degenerate Fishman Island back into a warzone, so I can definitely see an arc focusing on a way to resolve that. While most people seem to think that Luffy will do something similar to Whitebeard and declare the island under his protection. However, I have a hard time seeing how that would work since, despite all the infamy he's racketed up recently, he's still considered a "rookie", someone who hasn't even experience the horrors of the New World. No matter how you look at it, he doesn't have the exposure or reputation that Whitebeard had. For example, one of the Yonkou declaring an island under their protection would draw attention and most likely deter most attackers (any of the Yonkou really) and the islands allied with the World Government retain that protection. That being said, Whitebeard was the "strongest man in the world". Luffy's not going to achieve that level of power in two years, otherwise...we wouldn't have much of a manga, would we?

So I think there has to be some other sort of resolution to the situation for Fishman Island. Possible FI might even become the way Luffy gains exposure to the rest of the world, by resolving some way of keeping it protected.

I think that luffy is going to make a stink at FI and SA because luffy like to be free if someone is a slave Luffy will butt heads. I think that luffy could handle a admiral but it does depend on the admiral in question. This will boost his bountry of the straw hats.

Junaid_Sennin
September 08, 2010, 08:33 AM
On the shonen jump website it says that, starting this issue, there'll be a special One Piece project,

"Special project of ONE PIECE started!! ONE PIECE grand countdown start !!"

(http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/index.html)

It says it'll be in next week's jump too. Anyone know what it is?

Lord Rayleigh
September 08, 2010, 09:08 AM
Luffy saying Fishman Island is his territory does not make any sense since Luffy is going to travel in the New World. He wouldn't come back to Fishman Island if someone was to attack it despite his warning. It also would take time to come if he was to punish people. And without Eternal Pose, it's not possible since the Log Pose always points to the next island. Not to say that Luffy is far from being ready to present people with an ultimatum, like Shanks did at Marineford.

Skyrius
September 08, 2010, 08:04 PM
Ahaha, so SJ really is doing all these drawings and giveaways to boost the sales for these weeks XD I can imagine there are some people who'd just stop buying the magazine these 4 weeks and start up again when OP restarts. That's both somewhat sad and hilarious at the same time.

sarutobi_sensei
September 08, 2010, 08:51 PM
So I really wanna know, does the 1 month break mean that it's going to be back on the 4th week of pausing, or on the 5th week?

This is the 2nd week without OP, on the 15th it's the 3rd week, on the 22nd it's the 4th week. Will there be a chapter on that week or only on the 30th of september?

Bugzee
September 08, 2010, 10:06 PM
So I really wanna know, does the 1 month break mean that it's going to be back on the 4th week of pausing, or on the 5th week?

This is the 2nd week without OP, on the 15th it's the 3rd week, on the 22nd it's the 4th week. Will there be a chapter on that week or only on the 30th of september?

^ Wrong thread but I'll inform you of the "situation":

First and foremost, you should read the OP Announcement (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/announcement.php?f=47&a=126). If you would like extra confirmation; both Schabrak (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2067781&postcount=1197) and Freuk (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2068052&postcount=1202) explained the same thing on two different occasions. Take a look around the OP seciton; there are plenty of new threads/areas to participate in. Which will in part keep you busy until the next OP chapter comes out lol. Everyone's experiencing the same pain and torture...we just to have to be patient...:thumbs

Poneglyph420
September 08, 2010, 10:43 PM
Ahaha, so SJ really is doing all these drawings and giveaways to boost the sales for these weeks XD I can imagine there are some people who'd just stop buying the magazine these 4 weeks and start up again when OP restarts. That's both somewhat sad and hilarious at the same time.

If that's the case I guess you'd feel bad for and laugh at me at the same time.. I actually know several people who wouldn't buy a WSJ without OP.

It's cool to see some of Oda's old ideas.. And I like the part where the NW is focused on, showing the SN and BrownBeard.. (The small comments also state the phenomenon that made Bece's ship flew was but one of the terrors of the NW.. and that the NW was filled with pirates all claiming territory and fighting for it...)

I can imagine that (especially in the "target market" of Japan) there's many people really going crazy over this break... and this might ease the "pain"... even save the lives of a few Otaku or Hikikomori.....


I really would love to see more about the SN and the NW in the Grand Countdown.... But it will mostly be recaps and maybe provide a bit of clarity.......

Skyrius
September 09, 2010, 12:10 AM
Oh jeez, I wasn't reading carefully, but it seems like the Grand Countdown events are actually in the Shounen Jump magazines. Here I was thinking that the website was the main event. XD

Dang, looks like I'm still buying it these next 4 weeks <3. Oh well, that's fine. I think it's a recap, but apparently there's extras? Like the Grand Line times? *hopeful*. I doubt it though. I wonder if they'll include Oda's extra Time sketches like last time.

EDIT: Oh oh. I WANT that calender though.

Junaid_Sennin
September 11, 2010, 03:43 AM
Is there a thread that talks about what's in the Grand Countdown stuff in Jump for these past two weeks and the two that are still to come? Because I can't find info on it anywhere, and I live in Aus so I can't just walk down to the newsagency and buy this weeks jump myself

Nonlife
September 13, 2010, 11:41 PM
Entering Week 3 of this "hiatus". (I never thought I'd miss new One Piece chapter this much - just like when I used to miss ATLA). I can't wait to see what Usopp looks like (hopefully he pulled a fast Jarod and really pimped out his gear).

Skyrius
September 14, 2010, 12:48 AM
Is there a thread that talks about what's in the Grand Countdown stuff in Jump for these past two weeks and the two that are still to come? Because I can't find info on it anywhere, and I live in Aus so I can't just walk down to the newsagency and buy this weeks jump myself

*pulls from the metaphorical inferno and drop-kicks over yonder*

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2076940#post2076940

El-Thor
September 14, 2010, 01:28 AM
That was a SUPERRRRRR long post you linked us to Skyrious. But thanks for explaining everything so nicely :D Honestly, I'd love one of those calendars too. Maybe it will pop up on eBay? FOR LIKE 20000000000 BERI ! Umm.. what's the conversion rate again??

Aaaaaaaaanyway I hope Usopp gets enough strength to be able to use the Impact Dials without any side effects. That would add a lot of power to his arsenal, but will it help him be the king of snipers? Probably not... come on Usopp-kun ! SHOW US YOUR TRUE POTENTIAL !!!

mars0103
September 14, 2010, 04:46 AM
To stop the constant bordom I found I fanfic that was based of the last one I found.

Status: PREDICTION
by smurfclassic

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
One Piece 599

PG 1
Outside shakki's store

''everyone's, mine so glad that everyone's ok, and got my message'' said luffy
''haha, well it wasn't hard to figure it out, it had to something simple with you'' said nami smiling
everyone that's laughing and agreeing, luffy starts laughing along with them

after that the laugh stops and everyone's got a worried look on there face and then nami starts talking ''hey...luffy''

''huh'' luffy with a confused look on his face
''are you ok, you know with what happen with ace, i sorry we couldn't be there for you'' nami says with the beginning of tears in her eyes

''oh right, well yea i couldn't except it as first'' says luffy, flashback to him going wild on amazon lily (i really couldn't) thinks luffy

''but now i can, im sure ace would want me to keep following my dream'' says luffy with a nostalgic look on his face, behind is a flashback picture of luffy, ace and sabo looking out to sea.
''yeah, your right'' nami says as she wipe's her eye and then starts to smile, and for does the rest of them.

''oh and don't worry about me being alone i had help so i wasn't alone'' says luffy behind him a shadow of a figure is coming out of the entrance of shakki's place

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 2
outside shakki's

as Hancock comes into view, robin takes a battle stance and says to luffy ''isn't that the warlord boa Hancock luffy''

after hearing this chopper, Franky, nami, zoro, brook, and usopp take a battle stance
sanji looks at her and his eyes turn to hearts, but remember that looks cant can be deceiving so tries to take a battle stance but while looking at her hearts start to appear from his head

''easy everyone, she's really nice and she helped me a lot'' luffy says while trying to calm them down, they all take luffy word for it because not being there for him when they were most needed left them with a little gratitude to Hancock

Hancock blushes after being called nice, after this because sanji no longer thinks of her as an enemy his legs give out and he turn all red looking at her

''Hancock let me introduce, this is Franky, chopper, brook, usopp, zoro, robin, sanji and nami'' says luffy pointing to one after the other, Hancock only really pays attention to nami and robin, but feels relieved because see thinks they aren't as beautiful as her

''excuse me, but can you show me your pants'' brook says, but in response to this hancock's temper is shown when dealing with men (other than luffy)

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 3
outside shakki's

Hancock on reflex does a jumping turn kick towards brook that will turn him to stone, but on reflex luffy also color of observation realizes that its not a normal kick so uses color of armament and stops Hancock leg easily by grabbing it

Hancock ashamed of the attack that she did on one of luffy's crew without realizing it, but luffy understand that and says ''it was an accident Hancock i know'' then luffy smiles towards her, from luffy being so kind and smiling from her disgrace Hancock nearly faints and ends up on the floor

the sound of a sword swing is heard as well as it going back into its scabbard but from the look of zoro it doesn't look like he moved a muscle, showing speed that he has never shown before which could have easily cut hancock's leg if it had gone any closer to brook

sound of the rocks breaking can be heard from under sanji leg were the ground if breaking showing that the sanji was also ready to move

sounds of machine part retracting after being instinctively activated from Franky after realizing that a crew member was about to be attacked

nami swings her pole around stopping the lightning from above Hancock to strike and starts disapating

seed drop back into usopp's bag and his weapon if returned to his back in a blink of an eye like he's done the same thing over a million times

an extreme killer intent from behind Franky disappears after chopper eats a red ball of medicine and the out grown horns and hair begin to retract and his size becomes smaller, then chopper is seen appearing from behind Franky

brooks cane goes back together, flowers disappear from behind brooks back that they were there to protect brook just in case no one stopped Hancock, ''yohohoho'' from brook

robin smiles and so does the rest of the straw hat crew because they all realized the each other was ready to defend, so after smile they continue to reminisce and talk about how much everyone has changed and grown stronger

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 4
outside shakki's

Hancock was not aware of the danger that she just avoided because of the roller-coaster of feeling that her was feeling one after another;
angry at brook for being asked that question

embarrassed as well as angry at herself for not being able to contain herself
upset at the thought of nearly hurting one of luffy's friends
relived for being stopped before anything happened

happy and excited from luffy touching her leg when he stopped her, because these emotions hit her one after another she didn't have time to notify the others movements or there killer intent
but because the rest that just exited shakki's house were not blinded by the emotions that Hancock was going though they all saw what went down in a matter of seconds and each of them had a cold sweat at what they saw, including shakki who has seen more than they have after being a pirate over 40 years ago

but they all remained silent because Hancock didn't notice and it would have hurt her pride.
after the the talking dies down luffy says ''let's go inside we have a lot of work to do'' everyone smile and agrees

PG 5
inside shakki's store

everyone has entered shakki's bar with usopp coming in last carrying a large box that he just manages to get though the door

''what's that usopp'' luffy asks
''yea Ive been wondering about that as well ask nami'' while staring at the box
''its some plants that have seeds i use for my new weapons and i was wondering if i could store them here shakki until i can put them on the sunny go'' usopp ask shakki politely
''yea sure no problem'' shakki replies

''speaking about the sunny is rayliegh coating it already'' asks Franky
''yea, he left to do it a little of a day ago, he should be done in a couple of days'' says shakki

''that explains why when we came to SA and followed the vive card it pointed to the see and we couldn't stop Rayleigh'' says chopper while eating some cotton candy that shakki just pasted him
''how's the sunny go been shakki's i thought that with what we did here last time there could have been trouble with the marines trying to get a hold of it'' says a worried Franky

''nothing really happen just some weak bounty hunter that even the rosy riders could take take of'' says shakki with a suspicious look, camie is shown sitting down behind shakki with a surprised look at what shakki just said, then think (she must not want them to feel guilty about what happened) flash is shown of shakki getting of the boat and standing next to kuma behind the face of a now worried camie

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 6
flashback of kuma and shakki at the sunny go

''your on our side right kuma'' shakki says while looking up to kuma, but after kuma looks at her his eye glow red and just as he's about to attack shakki's realizes she move out of the direction of the boat and shout's ''set sail, ill handle him some how just get out of here'' shakki's says as she doges kuma's attack

shakki stand's there looking up at kuma wondering if he is going to follow the sunny go or fight her, so she stays ready to move in case he goes after the boat

shakki's wanted poster is shown and that changes kuma's priority and he starts to concentrate his attack on her, shakki is shown avoiding a few attacks from kuma

FEW DAYS LATER
hachin is shown sneaking back onto Shabondy archipelago after coming from duval's base were the sunny go is discreetly covered up in case passes by on the way to SA might see it

hachin is finally shown getting to shakki's bar after being careful not to be seen only to find that shakki's is collapsed in the doorway all bloody

''SHAKKI'' hachin screams and shakki's opens her eyes and smile a bit
''it's ok hachin, ive all ready stopped the blood i just need to rest now, keep the sunny go hidden, i was able to damage him a fair bit but i dont know long it will be until he get repaired'' shakki says just before she passes out


PG 7
Flashback over and inside shakki's house

''oh, if nothing really happened then that's ok, i have some weapons and new improvements that im going to make to the sunny go on the ship i brought i need a save place to keep them so they don't get stolen, these weapons in the wrong hands would be very bad'' says Franky now worried about the ship he used to get here after being relieved that the sunny go is ok

Hancock after finally being back to her usual self (staring at luffy) but being able to follow there conversation and realizes that this is a great chance to get back on good terms with luffy's friends after what she did early and says ''you can keep your ship next to mine then no one will go near it and if you still don't think your equipment you haven't onbeard is safe you can always put them onboard''

''really that will help out a lot thanks'' franky says now becoming relieved and after looking at her he starts to blush a little

''did anyone come one a boat that need putting near my ship or another stuff that i can help out with'' Hancock says trying to get on the rest of there good side

''i put the ship that i got from the skyisland onto of the trees, it should be safe there'' nami says like its nothing, but everyone one except for chopper is surprised

''skyisland, really is that were you were sent off to nami'' says luffy surprised, hancock is shown angry biting her thumb nail (he talked to her so casually her and called by her nami) ''does that mean it's a flying ship'' says luffy with sparkling eyes

''yeah, i was a skyisland that studied the weather, i helped out alot so they gave me a ship (well they would have if i asked for it) and i was able to learn alot about the weather in the new world'' nami smile and makes a fist and is very proud of what she accomplished

''i don't need any help with my stuff either i left them on nami's ship'' says chopper, everyone is also surprised at this as well

''how did you leave them on her ship that above the tree'' says Franky

''i also flew here on a giant bird that i made friends with on the island that i was sent to, i saw something on top of the trees when i got closer i realized it was nami hiding her ship so i left all my stuff up there and after we cover the ship nami jump onto the my friends back and we flew around the SA looking for the boat, after we couldn't find it we got off, said goodbye to my friend and started to make our way here''

''oh amazing, that just like you to make friends with a animal'' luffy says with a big smile on his face, all the other's are also smiling

''shut up, even if you praise me its not going to make me happier'' chopper says doing his usual happy dance, after that all of the strawhat member burst out laughing, realizing that even though even has change they are still the same people deep down

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 8
inside shakki's bar

''oh i've got some stuff that i need to keep safe can i keep them on your lovely ship hancock-sama'' sanji says while fantasizing about taking a walk with Hancock to her ship like it's a date
''sure'' hancock says but doesn't really take much notice of him and now back to staring at luffy, sanji notices her not caring and thinks that she's doesn't mind being alone on a walk with him

(back into his fantasy world)
''sanji, just some recipes that i haven't read yet that need to be keep secret, when you get to eat the stuff im making im sure you've going to find it better that anything you've had before'' sanji says with a very confident look, luffy mouth start watering

''sanji FOOOOODDDDD!!!!!'' luffy shouts,
''not yet we have some more important stuff to do first right'' says sanji at the same time the other member that haven't said if they need to put anything on Hancock boat (zoro, robin, brook) all says that they don't have anything that needs safe keeping

luffy realizes that its more important that the mission he wants to achieve is successful than him eating some nice food even though he's not hungry ''ok, but we'll need a meal before we start the freeing the slaves'' luffy says

''yea i make sure something nice is prepared for just before we start'' sanji says even though he isnt showing it he also cant wait to show off the recipes that he got 99 masters he defeated
Robin is shown standing over the information collected by both rosy riders and shakki

PG 9
Inside shakki's bar

''luffy is it ok is if i look over all of this data and see the best way to plan the attack'' robin says while plotting all of the place there are stores on a SA map, as well of the personal slaves in a different color on that same map

''sure, i was just going to free each slave one after another until they were all free'' luffy says, everyone in the bar starts laughing except for Hancock who just keeps think that he like the man who set her free

''yea, i figured you would do something like that, doing nothing but making us worry, we can use my ship to travel some of the slaves to were we can help them also it can create different weather like fog, if we do that maybe we can go longer without of finding out who we are'' says nami, luffy is overjoyed by a flying ship that can change the weather

''we'll also help out in freeing those slaves, consider all of the kuja pirates at your disposal to help you with whatever you need'' insists hancock with a serious look on her face and behind her face is a flashback of her and her sisters as slaves

the reason that she offered her crew to help might have a little to do with helping out her most loved person and more to do with the fact that she know what it's like to be a slave
''thanks they will come in real help if we want to get this done before rayliegh gets backs and we get discovered by the marines'' says robin as she chuckles at the thought of the marines finding them

robin start formulating a plan with easy even though she is planing the movement of both the crews as well as shakki and the rosy riders that shakki just informed them will also be helping, this comes easy to robin after the time she spent with the revolutionary army

''robin you seems to find that easy, like you've done this many time before'' mutters nami with a surprised look on her face with looking at the plans even though she can understand them and follow them she herself know that she wouldn't have been able to make these plans in the short of time that robin has had

''oh really, its probably because i have done this a few times before'' robin answer with smile and continuing with her work

''really were i mean its not like there are many places that you can make these sorts of plans, was it before to meet us or during these last 2 years'' nami's says quickly because she really wants to know the answer, now everyone is also interested in were she learned to be able to do this because they don't know much about robin's past and she hasn't yet told them what she did the last 2 years

''oh its was in the last 2 years, i didn't to do anything like this before i joined up with crocodile and even then he was a cunning guy so i didn't do much, but i guess the work that i did helping the revolutionary army these last 2 years is helping me out here'' replied robin as if it was nothing but everyone one is shocked

''revolutionary army!!!!! you mean you meet with luffy's dad dragon'' nami shouts
''oh yea, i guess you really cant trust much of what the newspaper says about him even though he is the leader of the revolutionary he not that bad of a guy'' robin says this clamly, luffy not really interested about his dad because he understands that each person has there own path to follow, however luffy is interested in someone else from the revolutionary army

''Robin did you meet ivan-san when you were there'' luffy says as he remembers all the help he received from him

PG 10
inside shakki's bae

''you mean ivankov luffy, sure i meet him after reading the newspaper and finding out that he helped you out a lot i had to find him a thank him personally, he just said that he also had to thank you and hopes that you're well'' robin says this and smiles after noticing that luffy is happy to know that he's fine because during the fight was the last time that he saw him

sanji is shown while a angry look on his face after the mention of invankov and behind him is a flash back picture of him beating the hell out of sanji, robin notices this and laugh because ivankov told her that he beat the snot out of a guy called sanji this is shown in a flashback behind robin's picture

''anyway i think that i might need to contact them to see if that can help the freed slaves get off the island so they dont become slaves again'' robin says this as she get told there is a den-den-mushi in the back room from shakki

after contacting the revolutionary army she mentions ''they will be sending someone and boat to pick up the slaves and take them were ever they wanted to go, they said they might not have enough room for them on 1 boat, so they said that as long as there is a place of them to hide them will make as many trip as they need to help out people who have been abandoned by the WG''
''SUPER!! leave it too me i will make a house that they can stay in to keep them out of view until they can live normal lives again, also with a little help in collect and cutting the wood (franky looks at zoro as he back to training) i should be able to make a ship for them as well, just need to pick up some stuff from the shops here on SA'' says a overjoyed franky

everyone in the strawhat crew just smile because they knew he would welcome the challenge of building a house and a boat as well freeing all the slaves. franky realizing that he doesn't have much time to everything he starts working on making a large house under the root and tells them than when the start to inform him

''oh luffy you said that you could take the collar off without the keys, how do you do that???'' asks a curious robin, this sparks the interest in all of the people in shakki's bar as well all of the Strawhat member flashback to the what rayliegh did in the auction house 2 years ago

''oh yea, its something everyone can do with enough training near the need of my training i thought about this plan to free slaves and i asked rayliegh to teach me how to do the same thing that he did in the auction house, i took me about 1 week to be able to do it as well'' luffy says as he sits down to start explaining how it works

''you have to extend your haki color of armament around the color and the break the collar and open it up while containing the explosion and tossing it aside quickly, to be able to contain an explosion the size of the necklace i had to practiced using the cannon balls from hanock ship that i asked for'' luffy informs them, they all look surprised to see that luffy thought so much ahead
hancock then suddenly realizes that is what the cannon balls that she was asked to deliver were for

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 11
on-route back to shakki's

shakkis is shown with some of the kuja pirates and a stock load of food and other supplies
''did you get everything shakki-sama'' asks a kuja pirate, behind her is a flash back of franky and sanji asking her to get whatever on the list they both need

''yea i got a lot of food and all the needed supplies with the money that some of my kind customer donated for a worthy cause and also saved money with the shops having a discount sale, i mean these clothes with come in use as well for the slaves that haven't been given proper clothing'' says a smiling shakki

the kuja pirates have an awkward forced smile as they each recall shakki beating some money out of some last minute customer that just walked into her store before they even had a chance to purchase anything, as well as beating the shop owner until they sell there product to her for a unreasonably low price

''it's a good job it was you who went to buy the supplies i don't think anyone would have been able to get a discount this good'' says the kuja pirate trying to keep on her good side after seeing how scary she can get

''well if monkey-chan or any member of his crew went into a shop i think that could have gotten it for free as soon as the shop owner noticed them but that would also be bad for us if they notified the marines so i went instead'' says shakki while chuckling

shakki and the kuja pirates return to shakki's bar to find nami ship outside with franky admiring it as well as luffy begging to have a ride on it but still getting refused until after the mission is over

''oh looks like your back and have gotten to stuff i asked for'' franky says while taking the stuff the kuja pirates were pulling in carts ''I've decided after inspecting the roots for the trees here to instead of chopping them down and building a house that some people could spot if they are close, im going to just hollow of the big tree roots and use the wood i get from inside to building proper living quarter inside the tree root''

''AMAZING, wouldn't that be kind of hard franky'' says an impressed chopper, with all the other looking down at the big roots that are below

''it's a fair bit harder than buliding a new house from scratch but it's not all that difficult and it's better to keep secret incase the slave's owner come looking for them'' says a serious franky, sanji is shown behind franky taking the food from the carts that were carrying them into shakki's bar

''franky if you bulid a kitchen i will be able to make the food there later instead of traveling back and forth from shakki's to deliver food'' says sanji as her enter shakki house to start preparing some food for the first slaves to arrive

''OK!!!!! you do that franky, sanji and the rest of use each have jobs to do'' says an excited luffy and he climb onto the nami ship with the rest of the strawhat crew, hancock looks dejected because they have to part for a while so she can back to her ship and start the plan of sailing to first grove they are about to attack

''ok luffy you jump down after the fog is completely covering the grove'' says nami as she starts the weather machine on the ship ''your the one that needs to keep out of site the most even though we havent done anything to get noticed in the last 2 years they should still remember you from the incident while the tenruybito as as well as the war'' nami says dishearteningly if case if made luffy remember abot losing ace

''there are 3 slaves store on this grove and only a few personal slaves, hancock and her crew are taking care of the personal slaves and one of the slave stores, zoro and you and chopper will take care of another slaves trader store, and me nami, brook and usopp will take care of the last one'' robin says trying to keep if as simple as possible for luffy and zoro to understand

''if any of the group find slaves that don't have keys to the collar's then try will red up a red signal, that will be for you luffy when you see that remember to go immediately to that location, your the only who can release the collars you don't need to worry about there being enough people to take care freeing the slaves were you are because most of the rosy riders will be with you in case you have to leave'' robin tell luffy trying to stress the importance

''use them to get to the signal if u need to luffy, the owners might activate the counted down to the explosion so you need to hurry'' says nami

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 12
nami's ship

''zoro if there's any slaves that you cant find the keys for then cut the chain that bind that and have to go to luffy as fast as they can'' says nami to the zoro and after he agrees then she then asks him ''i want you to get of the money in the auction house you can find, and when we come to pick you up make sure to get it all on the ship'' nami says with a cunning face

''WHAT why should i have to do that for you!!!'' shouts an annoyed zoro
''dont you remember that you owe me money from loungetown'' nami's replies

''i re-payed that and then you said there was interest and that got me to help vivi in promise of use getting money for helping her'' argues zoro
''yes your right but we never got that money did we, and counting all the days of interest that you own me i think that the only way for you to pay me back is if you get all of the money from all of the stores you attack'' nami's says as she grabs zoro shirt and leans in with a scary face

''ok...ok, but after i don't owe you anything'' agrees a reluctant zoro, luffy is shown not caring about there conversation just looking down as the fog keeps spreading waiting for it all to cover the grove, everyone else on board is chuckling at zoro being forced to do as nami says

''what about the other auction house that hancock is going to nami, how do you plan to get all of that money'' ask robin while smile straight at nami, nami learns in so no one else can hear she

''well im sure u noticed hancock feeling towards luffy with the way she been acting'' whispers nami, robin nods ''well all i did was says that luffy was very hurt the last time we were hear and when we wanted to buy back a kidnapped camie but we didnt have enough money, so i told her that he would to really happy if she collected all of the money she finds at places she attack and gives it to us so that if anything ever happens like this again luffy wont be upset by not having enough money'' continues nami with a devious smile on her face and robin continues to laugh

after they get ready to attack nami also starts talking to chopper ''your going to be with those two when they are attacking and i dont know how much stronger each of them are but if they are not careful the slaves might get hurt during the attack or have been hurt by the store owner so i want you to try and keep them under control and take care of any injured people''

''ok, just leave it to me'' says a confident chopper

''ok i know i can count on you, oh and luffy and zoro aren't the type to be able to find the keys so im leaving that up to you and the rosy riders'' nami says while everyone starts laughing execpt for the sulking luffy and the pissed of zoro

all look down at the grove and see that its about to be completely covered in fog and they get ready to jump down after tying off the ship to the tree in the air and just as they are about to jump off and proceed to each slave shop robin starts talking

''remember for this plan to work it needs to be done fast we have another 5 grove we have to attack today if we want to get them all before rayliegh returns with the coated sunny go, as soon as you of free all the slaves have a couple of them on each of the flying fish they will take them straight to shakki's bar, hopfuly by them franky would have made big enough quarter to keep them if not have them stay a shakki's house until he's done'' mentions robin

''when they are no longer any flying fish the rest should be able to fit on hancock's boat and she will take them to grove 13 by sea, if there are any more then we might be able to get them onboard the ship and fly to shakki's bar but we need to try and avoid that if possible, keep the baby den-den-mushi on to keep incontact'' robin says looking to the rest of the members but stop as she see there confident look

''these over 100 slaves on this grove make sure to get them all!!!!'' shouts a excited luffy and jump down just before the rest

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PG 13
nami/brook/robin/usopp attacking the slave shop

''we have gotten all of the slaves out of there cells, knocked all the other personal here unconscious but we can't find the key's!!'' shouts nami standing buy all the money she collected from the back room

usopp shown thinking, brook shown rounding up the slaves and telling the ones that are scared not to worry, robin using her powers to try and find the key but its taking to long

''they seem to care more about hiding the location of the keys than hiding the money'' says nami
''well that to be expected given that the total price they want for all the slave far exceeds the money they have in the shop, we should have keep the store manger concious to get the location out of him'' says robin shown with her eyes closed looking for the keys still with her powers

''YOHOHOHO!!! looks like the others are having a better time that we are'' laughs brook with baby den-den-mushi speaking from inside of his skull
''were nearing the time limit of staying here should we forget the keys and have luffy take care of each of them when were all get back to shakki's'' says a worried and impatient nami, looking at the slaves

''no there too many of the them and it will wear luffy out not to mention that its too risky incase these wake up'' says robin with her foot ontop of a store's peronal

''I'VE GOT IT!!!!!!'' shout usopp after he done thinking, everyone looks usopp's way
''what do you mean you've got it'' annoyed nami says at usopp who's showing a smug look on his face

''well first we need to get everone out side the building, hey can you help me with these people please'' usopp asks the strong looking slaves to help move the store's personal near robin
everyone now out side of the store

''nami i need your help on this one'' asks usopp then nami hits him over the head for getting cocky earlier making everyone think he can to it alone
''just hurry up and tell me what i need to do'' says a smiling nami now that she is needed

''when we were talking ealier you said that your new weapon and make just about and kind out weather if just by someone who know how, like yourself'' usopp says to nami and she tells him that he's correct, everyone else looks on confused

''then do u think you can make a mini tornado'' says usopp with a smug look on his face pointing at nami
''yea its not too hard, ive done it before but i dont see how that going to help here'' nami replies only to make usopp act more outrageours

''well make a mini tornado and have it destroy this empty buliding and i will do the rest'' says usopp at nami who now look worried but eventualy gives in after seeing with confident look
''OK but you better not screw this up!!'' shout nami as she starts using her weapon

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 14
outside the slave shop

nami just made a mini tornado and its heading for the slave store
''i know we said that we were going to destory all the places that a keeping slaves, both store's and house to make it so they never want to this thing again but wont destroying it make it harder for use to find the key's'' says robin as everyone including the slaves are worried apart from the usopp

''don't worry, the island that i was sent to in order to get off it i didnt only need to get stronger but i need to notice the tinest movement becuase everything on that island was about to eat you, inclusing the island'' says usopp with a dipressed look on his face just remembering what happened, everyone is shocked about what he's been though speacialy the part about the island trying to eat him

''but becuase of that it will come in handy here'' usopp says as the tornado is just started tearing into the store, everyone stops talking and usopp has a very serious look on his face with his goggles on

the tornado has ripped though the whole of the store and the stuff is swilering around and the suddenly usopp draws his weapon and fire's a shot and tells nami that she can stop the tornado now, about 30 seconds later the tornado disappears and usopp runs off in the direction in which he fired and after another 30 he is shouwn running back with the keys in his hand

''ive got them, see i told you not to worry'' says usopp who's now boasting to the slaves as he opens there neck collars, nami is socked that usopp was able to find the keys in the swiling tornado and robin is even more shocked as to who he did it because fireing at a moving target after finding is increadably difficult but what even harder is judging how much the corse of your shot is going to be change while shooting into the tornado and timing it just right to hit the keys

''YoHoHoHoHoHo AMAZING, usopp-san now as soon as we get everyone out of the buliding we'll be able to find the keys alot fast if they won't tell us the location of the key's'' says a laughing brook while looking down at the unconcious people on the floor

''no it's best to try and avoid doing this to often'' robin informs brook
''why?? robin-chan'' says a confused brook

''just look around you and you can see why'' repiles robin as everyone starts to look around they notice that the area's fog is nolonger covering them
''the tornado blew the fog away and if we keep having to rely on this method then the chance of us getting spotted increase'' robin says as they all begin to walk out of the current area into a place were there is more fog

''right the hancock ship is here now you all just need to get on and we'll see you soon '' nami says while smiling after reciveing a ton of parise

''we have aranged for a safe place to sleep and some food for you, and after we've freed the rest of the slaves on this island we secure safe passage from here to were ever you want to go'' robin informs the slaves afer she notices there worried look when they board hancock boat and part ways

''BROOK we are done hear and are heading back ship, we had no problem on this side'' choppers voice is heard over the baby den-den-mushi with luffy and zoro in the back ground

''you almost sacred me to death then, although im already dead YOhohoho'' brook says as he hears a voice calling him from inside his skull, nami then whack brook on the head and take the baby den-den-mushi of him

''no we had no problems either we'll meat you make at the ship to discuss what's next'' says nami as they are shown walking back into the fog


PG 15
back on the weather ship

all the members are now back on the weather ship and are talking about what to do next with each other aswell as hancock who is on her way to shakki bar and the rosy rider who have just dropped the few slaves that each had and are now on there way back to luffy and crew
''so what now do we take care of the next grove or rest for a while'' ask chopper

''no if we want to achive what we came here to do we need to keep going until we need to rest'' robin says looking down at the map of SA and crossing off the grove that they are currently in

''yeah your right''says nami
''well what next'' asks zoro

''they are a few grove with only a couple of slave shop on them we will split up and each take on after we have freed the slave we'll meet up by the shore and with them and hand them off to hancock, is that alright with you hancock i know is not a very exciting job but its the most improtant'' asks robin
''no problem if it's for luffy i will help out'' replies hancock everyone smiles after hearing it but luffy dosent seems to take much from it only that hancock will help out

''thanks your really helpful hancock'' says a joyful luffy hancock is how blushing and saying its nothing big
''my snakes will be able to do that without anyone being on board the ship so i suggest that me and the kuja pirates take the grove surrounding grove 13 were shakki's bar is and escorting them to shakki's on foot'' says hancock to everyone over the den-den-mushi

''yea that would be great and helpful but you wouldnt have the cover of the fog will it be alright'' asks luffy ''they might find out that you are helping me and you could get into trouble with the world goverment''

''it's ok aslong as im helpful i dont mind making myself and enemy of the world'' hancock replies and she is shown with her legs gave way with she heard that luffy was worrying about her

''alright then we'll keep in canstant contact as contiune for as long as we can'' says robin everyone else is shown nodding there heads in agreesment last panel shows 12 hours later


PG 16
shakki's bar

luffy and crew come though door and are greeted by shakki and aswell and hancock who as just returned a while ealier
''were sanji and franky'' asks luffy

''sanji cooking in the house below that franky made and franky is looking for matierals that he can use for buliding a ship, he's really amazing he only just got finished buliding the house inside the root not took long ago'' says shakki at the strawhat crew members who look suprised

''it took franky that long just to build a house for the slaves???'' says nami looking at the rest that were also confused

''well yea with the amount of slaves there about he had to use up the whole of the root he said that there were enough room to hold nearly 1000 people is they all slept close to each other'' shakkis informas them expecting them to be suprised at it being able to hold 1000 but noticeing that they arent they just says that its to be expected that it took that long then if he made it that big

''yea and sanji has been cooking no-stop trying to help the slaves, there color in there face seems to have gotten better but then are still looking alot depressed i think is becuase they are still on this island and they are worried that they are going to get captured again'' says shakki and soon after that brook realizes that he can do something for them by playing a song to cheer them up so he leaves to go play for them
after brook leave they all begin to discuss that they have done about 1/4 of work that needs to be done but with them getting into the rhythm of freeing the slaves they will be able to free alot more in the next 12 hours, franky enter soon after then finish there dicussion

''hey i see you all made it back'' says franky with a depressed face and tone luffy notices that franky is down and goes over that ask why
''what up franky i thought that you would have been more lively'' asks luffy with the other behind him sitting down also paying attention to what wrong with franky

''well it's just that i cant frind enough wood to build a boat big enough to carry all of the salves, at this rate the revoultionary amry are going to be making more trip that they have to'' says franky and everyone can now understand franky worries, shakki comes from behind the bar and looks at the map that show the location of the slaves stores

''well why dont you go with them on the next time they go out'' shakki says to franky, everyone turns around and looks a shakki with a confused look
''i dont mean join in, just the next time you go out why not attack this place'' shakki says as she points to the groves that are on the edge of the SA map that are labeled docks everyone leans over and looks at the map

''we can easily change our next attack to there buy why i dont think that you would find much extra wood on the docks that you would it you cut dont some trees'' says nami

''thats not all they so there because of everyone docking the ship the most of the ship are coated there aswell, but some people hire cheap coats because they cant afford the price to coat a ship with a good coater so naturally some of the ships that have been coated end up damaged after then try to submerge the ship in the water so there are alot of ship around the shore that you could fix up, i mean it not like you have to make 1 big ship to carry the slaves, you could also fix up to ship which is faster and easier'' says shakki looking at everyone's face's as they change from being without hope to smiles

''ok that seatled then we will cover the docks with fog as we attack and franky will get whatever he needs to make the ship, i also want brook to go with luffy's group the next time around'' says robin, everyone apart from the ones who were recently with brook during the attack dont know why robin said this so they all have a confused look on there face

''why robin??'' asks luffy
''well brook has a song that can get the store personal the side with us and handing over the key's willingly, its was alot easier than just knocking the out, i thought that it would help you have an easier time'' says robin, luffy is shown with a impressed look on his face while looking a brook and then agrees

''first thing we need to do is rest and have something to eat then we will attack tommorrow'' says robin as she circles the next target 'the docks' ans the leaves with the rest of them done to eat and rest below

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PG 17
kitchen of the house that franky bulit

''is there anything i could do to help out'' salve girl asking sanji

''a cutie pie like you should enjoy food not be making it, just leave it all to me i can handle everything just fine'' says sanji while thinking (i need to keep these dishes a secret from everyone, the way they protected them on that island shows how valuable they are)

''SANJI!!!! FOOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!!'' shouts luffy as soon as he enters the house startaling all the people inside bur nami gives him a big hit to the head for shouting to load which also cause the slaves to feel realvied and they start smiling and laughing, brooks music can be heard by everyone after they have entered the house

''looks like brook is playing'' says nami everyone start to listen and they cant help but feel relaxed after hearing it ''it's sounds like a new song of brooks, did her make it during the last 2 year'' nami says

''here you are nami-swan, robin-chwan, hancock-sama (only thing he's aloud to call her) your meals i think you will find that very intresting'' sanji says with joy on his face of having them taste his new recipes for the first time, the rest of the crew have and very angry look while they see sanji serving them first, sanji notices

''yours is over there'' sanji points to the table full of food, as soon as they bite into it and swallow there facial experssions change as they notice some think different about there bodys

''what's this i feel like my energy is coming back'' says luffy as he if stuffing his face with food, the rest also make grunts and nod in agreement but cant stop themselves from eating to says its good

''yea on the island that i was sent to i got these recipes that can greatly effect ones body that one your eating now will give you your energy back basicially its for endurance'' sanji says pointing to the food that luffy eating ''brook told me that you've been working non-stop for the last 12 hours so i new you would be hungry and tired so i made that for everyone'' sanji smiling with a face thats shows he's proud with himself

''won't we have to worry about the food suppile running out if you let luffy keep eating like that, i mean we did get alot of food but that was for the slaves'' says nami to sanji with hancock in the background next to luffy trying to feed him some of her food

''no i knew this was going to happen so i asked the kuja pirates to take the food that they found in the slave stores that they were using to feed the slaves, and on there way back after the food shops says that the hancock-sama had alot of food they gave it to her for free to get inher good graces'' sanji replies to nami while not even looking instead looking at hancock happy expression and going of into his own little fantasy thinking that its becuase of the food he made, until he notice's hancock feeding luffy then his love struck expression turns to anrgy

''good thinking sanji-kun'' says nami in a cute voice to try and get sanji to calm down after she notices his anger and it works ''we all need to get some rest we will be attacking again in the next 7 hours'' nami says a she and robin walk over to hancock and asks if she wants to sleep with them, hancock agrees only because she is going to use this chance to see if they have any feeling of love towards luffy


PG 18
30 hours later


''luffy there's only 1 grove left'' says robin as they all sit down tired after doing all of the attack but luckly they all when to plan so far
''thanks guy after this last attack we'll only have to worry about the slaves getting off the island and we can just wait for rayliegh'' says luffy to the rest of them

''dont mention it, we all didnt like what was going on this island when we first stepped on it over 2 years ago'' says nami dead tired but still smiling, sanji then walks carrying meals for each of them to get there strengh back even though he also is dead tired from all the cooking he has been doing
''hey sanji how are they all doing down below'' asks luffy with a piece ofmeat hanging out of his mouth, everyone paying attention

''well they are squezzing together but they are happy that they free and cant wait to get off the island'' sanji says as he sits down while lighting his cigarette after blowing some smoke he smiles

''thats good, you and franky have done a great job''says luffy as everyone agrees and they start laughing

''its nothing for the new and improved SUPERRRRR!!!!! me'' franky says while drinking one cola bottle after another ''also i finished the 2 ship like asked and have kept then near the shore line for when we need them''

''ok that great'' luffy says with the look of have a fair bit of energy after finishing sanji perpared meal and looking around to the find that the rest are also the same, shakki emerges from a back from where she keep a den-den-mushi

''i just got a call from both rayliegh and the revolutionary army, each said that they will be here in a couple of hours'' everyone faces light up with the though of seeing the sunny go again and a end to this mission

''ok just this last place left'' says usopp as he looks at the map and them has a curious look on his face
''luffy why did you leave this place for last, i mean it would make more sense to attack grove 60 last and then make a break for it stright after because its closet to the marines'' asks usopp which also grabs the attention of everyone in the room as they look towards luffy

''well that place is the same place that tried to sell camie last time and seeing as this time around we are destroying entire bulidings that have anything to do with the slave trade i thought that we should all be there when that happened'' luffy says with a giant smile on his face and the rest of the crew now realise want luffy want with the last place and each has a sight smile and thanks him, the only person that has been not following is hancock after she found out with place they were attacking next

hancock is shown with a deep concern look on her face over luffy after she remembers who owns this last slavery house, she only reemembered who it is because he's a person who discusts her nearly as much as the tenruybito because of his personality and the bisuness that he is involded in, and the possibilty of him being close, hancock looks down at a world goverment letter adressed to the warloards

continued from One Piece 598 Prediction
PG 19
Marines HQ

''how many do you think will show up this time after the summons'' marines A (high ranking officer)
''one or two is we a luckly but that dosent matter we just need to discuss the current problem and then inform the rest of the warlord on the dicsion'' marine B (another high ranking officer)

''hahahaha that why i love coming to these meetings'' said the voice of the man walking though the door, both marines quckly turn there heads towards the door

''it seems your here as usaul doflamingo'' marine A, a big smile is shown (bottom half of doflamingo's face)
''Of course i came, i love come to what the marines squrime and then ask for the help or pirates kill other pirates HAHAHAHAHA!!'' he says mocking the marines infront of him but they are even more shocked at whats behind him

doflamingo walks forward with the shadow behind him also following and the both sit down at the same time
''i didnt expect to see you her.... MIHAWK!!'' doflamingo says in a arragont voice
''we i had a feeling that something was going to happen on SA below so when i got this summons i and had no other reasons to decline, so has anything happen'' mihawk looks towards the marines

''no nothing big has happened that we know of...oh wait there was a report of some slave shop getting destroyed one after the other with no sign of stopping, but considering that we have deny no knowledge that they were there we havent been getting involved'' says marine B looking at a file infront of him thinking that in fact they ae doing them a favour by destroying them becuase they wouldnt be able to with the world nobles wanting slaves

''hmmmm is that so'' says a intrigued mihawk this also catchs doflamingo intrest as he wonders why he is so intrested in what happening on SA
doflamingo has a little flashback to a few hours before he arrived at the meeting were he gets a call from the owner of the Auction house in Grove 1 saying that anything to do with the slave trade has been destroyed in the last few days and even though he knew doflamingo said that hedidnt want anything to do with it 2 years ago cause he thought that the war with whitebeard was more intresting, he still though that he should call because he was worried that he is next

doflamingo is shown saying ''after the war with whitebeard it's gotten boring so if whatever happens at this meeting dosent intrest me than i will come down a see is its more intresting tere'' says a laughing doflamingo, flashback ends

''looks like its getting intresting again hahahaha!!!!'' doflamingo says with a crazy smile as he leaves the room on his way to SA, the marines want to stop him becuase they havent gotten to discuss the reason they summoned that yet but after seeing how crazy his smile if they froze up in fear and was unable to stop him

Mythsoul
September 14, 2010, 08:03 AM
ahhhh one more week....I cant wait to see Luffy's power ups...and everyone elses....haha..would be nice to see Sanji with a dress again...hahaha

Nonlife
September 14, 2010, 08:41 PM
It might be like Pavlov (if you've watched DBZ abridged); everytime he sees a dress or if one is placed in front of him, he'll break down or something. (One more week everyone). That fanfic was...interesting; I think I read something that wasn't chapter 1.

Skyrius
September 15, 2010, 12:50 AM
@mars0103: Trust me, anything to alleviate the withdrawal-like symptoms of this OP drought is appreciated, but can you post a link next time instead? Pasting such a large chunk of text tends to stretch the page a bit much.

Xenos3421
September 17, 2010, 03:36 AM
Okay okay okay- How About THIS!

It's two years later, Whaaaaat's up with Rob Lucci and the "pigeon" Pirates??

Yeah 528. Last time we saw them aaand they were sailing off into the distance.. Yeah They are TOTALLY coming back as pirates!

Junaid_Sennin
September 17, 2010, 10:49 AM
Nah, they won't be pirates, those guys are justice freaks. They'll be vigilantes, taking down anyone they think deserves it, be they pirate, marine, WG agent, bandit, normal citizen, police officer, you name it. They still have to achieve their goal of repaying Spandam for his betrayal.

Can't wait to see Buggy after 2 years, now that he's got a big strong crew and a huge treasure, he'll undoubtably have influence far greater than he really deserves, even more so if our suspicions are correct and that letter stated he was to become an Ouka Shichibukai.

sarutobi_sensei
September 17, 2010, 12:05 PM
We don't know the contents of the letter, we just assume that it is for him to become a Shichibukai.

beastboy
September 17, 2010, 01:09 PM
Well I'm dying to see Akainu vs Luffy, then Akainu would go all "Everyone who does not follow the right path should be punished" and then Luffy punches him and answers "And who the hell are you to say what the right path its, is it right to kill your nakama's just cause they are afraid, you're just as bad as the pirates you hate so much!"

ofir271
September 17, 2010, 03:50 PM
random future predictions

1 luffy is going to be grown up-not 2 years older but 12(because of iva hormons)
2 ev1 going to be much stronger of corse but they will also do many things on them we will find out on later chapters.among those things is robin making a allies connection for the SH.brook bringing laboon for the meeting.sanji free mr 2 from jail.
3 the revoluntary army will start to move with the help of the SW and many aly friends they made on the way.robin will make the connection possible.
4 BB will hurt shanks pretty badly and will we considered as the major force in the NW.luffy will mark him as his rival.
5 soon after the SW get to the NW they will fight against the 4th yooknu(:p for bad name) and the battle will be a draw. they will be considerd equell to BB and make him very happy.
6 the last island is a future island.traped in time for the next generation to find.

beastboy
September 17, 2010, 07:51 PM
Totally random and totally not important prediction:
"When the CP9 get back to the Plot, there will be a scene where Fukuro takes an hit from Luffy and screams "ITS OVER NINE THOUSANDS!!!!!" xD

Nonlife
September 17, 2010, 10:30 PM
One more week to go. Is there another reason why Oda took a 4 week leave - besides taking a much needed break? It's fine by me; what happens in his personal life is his own business. I wonder how many of the Supernovas will still be around after 2 years. Will Bonnie still be BB's "prize"?

Skyrius
September 18, 2010, 01:05 AM
Two more weeks, actually.

I'm assuming the main reason for the 4 week break is to make preparations for the time skip. You have to remember, Oda only intended for One Piece to run for 5 years, so when he planned everything out at the beginning, I'm sure the results weren't the foreseeable events occurring now XD

scyter
September 18, 2010, 11:39 AM
I figured out why the chopper will be able to use monster point. I think he will master awakened form and we all know that means faster recovery time, which functions involuntarily even when the user is unconscious. So he will be able to balance the damage that monster point put on a user when used.

chess4
September 18, 2010, 11:58 AM
i think chpper and ussopp will have the biggest changes. chopper will get bigger, and i think ussopp will of course bulk up.

damane08
September 18, 2010, 03:07 PM
personally I think that Franky will change the most simply because he has more means by which to change himself.
He can completely change his look in two years, comparing that to someone naturally changing, I think he has the advantage there.

the person I want to see the most is Usopp.

Geez
September 18, 2010, 06:38 PM
Franky will surely manage to do something about his weak point (in his back)!
Apart from his hairstyle and clothes, Usopp won't change too much since he'll spend most of his time improving his knowledge about weapons and losing his overweight.
Among all the pirate crew, the most impressive training is Chopper's imo. All members, except him, have a master to learn from (i suspect brook is gonna have one too). And if he masters his monster point all by himself and those books, he is really genius :o

BetaRuler
September 19, 2010, 02:32 AM
For all you know Usopp may change that fat into bulkin super muscle!

Renaan
September 19, 2010, 07:36 AM
I'm hoping we see Zorro gaining Colour of Intimidation / Conquerer. There we 3 people on Gol D Roger's ship that had it (that we know of) Having 2 people on the Straw Hat crew with it isn't out of the Question.

Geez
September 19, 2010, 11:54 AM
For all you know Usopp may change that fat into bulkin super muscle!

It would be a surprise :D but somehow i cannot picture it lol
A sniper doesn't necessary need muscles, that's why i was assuming this hypothesis.

Bugzee
September 19, 2010, 08:23 PM
It would be a surprise :D but somehow i cannot picture it lol
A sniper doesn't necessary need muscles, that's why i was assuming this hypothesis.

Yea, Usopp doesn't need to bulk up in that sense.

More control, steady arms, patience and close to perfect accuracy as possible would be a start! :P I guess he'll have a slightly more muscular figure (toned up a bit maybe?) and I really, really hope he increases his reflex abilities x speed strength. That would be ideal for me as a Sniper in the OP World.

elitefox
September 19, 2010, 10:19 PM
Yea, Usopp doesn't need to bulk up in that sense.

More control, steady arms, patience and close to perfect accuracy as possible would be a start! :P I guess he'll have a slightly more muscular figure (toned up a bit maybe?) and I really, really hope he increases his reflex abilities x speed strength. That would be ideal for me as a Sniper in the OP World.

sniper in this world uses guns which needed some muscles not to be carry off by the recoil or some sort

and with his weapon, he mostly needs strength to stretch the rubber to direct more force, on second thought, there is the help of the dial so we might see more variations of it than the last we have seen it :p

daman246
September 20, 2010, 06:47 AM
im pretty sure zorro,sanji and luffy will all have haki of some sort since there the top 3 fighters and the top 3 that will take on the admirals lol

jacek185
September 20, 2010, 09:21 AM
im pretty sure zorro,sanji and luffy will all have haki of some sort since there the top 3 fighters and the top 3 that will take on the admirals lol

do you belive that they will fight 3 admirals ? hard to belive that they will destroy a whole island if they start fighting ,1 admiral yes but not 3

elitefox
September 20, 2010, 07:31 PM
I bet on Usopp having haki.


or all of them having at least minimal haki just so they can at least touch a logia

Bugzee
September 20, 2010, 11:13 PM
sniper in this world uses guns which needed some muscles not to be carry off by the recoil or some sort

That's true but we're talking about Usopp in the OP world. ;) Focused-strength is needed when taking a target out. So I guess Usopp could train in that sense; extra concentration and learn how to reduce his nervousness before shooting, etc.


and with his weapon, he mostly needs strength to stretch the rubber to direct more force, on second thought, there is the help of the dial so we might see more variations of it then the last we have seen it :p

I'll be honest. The Kabuto is cool but seriously, the dude needs to pick up a more efficient weapon. Maybe, Franky will help him in that department. I still believe Usopp will use the Kabuto or something similar; I just hope it's much more powerful than what he currently uses. :)


I bet on Usopp having haki.

or all of them having at least minimal haki just so they can at least touch a logia

I would like to see him awaken his haki...one day. :P

Simply "touching" a logia isn't enough. Imagine "touching" Akainu with just enough haki...and then what? XD!

elitefox
September 21, 2010, 03:03 AM
That's true but we're talking about Usopp in the OP world. ;) Focused-strength is needed when taking a target out. So I guess Usopp could train in that sense; extra concentration and learn how to reduce his nervousness before shooting, etc.



I'll be honest. The Kabuto is cool but seriously, the dude needs to pick up a more efficient weapon. Maybe, Franky will help him in that department. I still believe Usopp will use the Kabuto or something similar; I just hope it's much more powerful than what he currently uses. :)



I would like to see him awaken his haki...one day. :P

Simply "touching" a logia isn't enough. Imagine "touching" Akainu with just enough haki...and then what? XD!


I think Kabuto is enough... I think the bullets will be more special, he can shoot pretty far but the damage isn't that much comparing the how much damage does clima tact does :D

Well at least they can hold akainu for a while :eyeroll

jacek185
September 21, 2010, 03:10 AM
i think usopp will learn to use hakki just like kuja pirates are shooting arrows with haki :) he would be badass ;d

TheMoa
September 21, 2010, 11:03 AM
i think usopp will learn to use hakki just like kuja pirates are shooting arrows with haki :) he would be badass ;d

I was going to say this! I think Usopp will develop COA haki to power up his projectiles, at least he needs to. So this way he can do something like Benn Beckman did to Kizaru(pointed a gun and hold him).

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 03:55 AM
Okay, so I've been posting a lot of this stuff in the wrong forum... And no1 told me. =[
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'

Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking of nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye.

Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.

- The Weaker SHs.
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically.

Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF. :p

Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I belief that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink

Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)

Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.

Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.

______________________________________________________________

-Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou.
-Supernovas XDrake/Kid/Basil & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well.
-Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.
-Admirals: First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.
-Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble.
-Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'
-Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.
-Moria starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
-Doflamingo vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)
- Three New Shichibukai - Besides Buggy. My guess have been wrong here so I'll leave this alone for now. (Coming Soon.)
- Smoker -> Vice-Admiral.
- Coby -> Major. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself. :eek:
- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.
- A lot of people think Hancock or Jimbei will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.



(I will be adding more as more topics come to me.)

jacek185
September 22, 2010, 05:47 AM
Okay, so I've been posting a lot of this stuff in the wrong forum... And no1 told me. =[
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'

Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking of nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye.

Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.

- The Weaker SHs.
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically.

Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF. :p

Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I belief that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink

Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)

Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.

Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.

______________________________________________________________

-Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou.
-Supernovas XDrake/Kid/Basil & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well.
-Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.
-Admirals: First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.
-Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble.
-Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'
-Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.
-Moria starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
-Doflamingo vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)
- Three New Shichibukai - Besides Buggy. My guess have been wrong here so I'll leave this alone for now. (Coming Soon.)
- Smoker -> Vice-Admiral.
- Coby -> Major. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself. :eek:
- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.
- A lot of people think Hancock or Jimbei will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.



(I will be adding more as more topics come to me.)


well in most i agree when it comes to luffy but i think he will learn learn to use a sword i think , i think you are right with zoro, sanji will use learn to use CoA if you ask why then i will answer what will he do when he won't be able to fight with his legs ? he is dead meat then :]

usopp i think you are right here also :) , franky i think he will be similar to kuma shooting beams xD *here comes luffy's and choppers face when they say beam* xD maybe better upgrade + the boosters ^^

chopper i agree with mastering the monster point and some medicine that will heal faster

i think nami will find some df :] maybe a logia type based on wind + the upgrade u were saying :)

Robin i think she will learn to use hakki i think COO type :)

Brook i think you are right here also ;]

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 07:43 AM
well in most i agree when it comes to luffy but i think he will learn learn to use a sword i think , i think you are right with zoro, sanji will use learn to use CoA if you ask why then i will answer what will he do when he won't be able to fight with his legs ? he is dead meat then :]

usopp i think you are right here also :) , franky i think he will be similar to kuma shooting beams xD *here comes luffy's and choppers face when they say beam* xD maybe better upgrade + the boosters ^^

chopper i agree with mastering the monster point and some medicine that will heal faster

i think nami will find some df :] maybe a logia type based on wind + the upgrade u were saying :)

Robin i think she will learn to use hakki i think COO type :)

Brook i think you are right here also ;]

I thought of the Nami/Wind Logia. However I don't think Oda will do that because it will negate the whole purpose of her staff. The thing that is awesome about Nami & Her staff is that she uses her superior weather understanding to create a powerful weapon. Her staff in the hands of anyone else is useless... I think with her ability and the knowledge she is going to learn from Haredas will increase her ability even more.

Sanji the reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying. :blink

The Luffy + Sword theory. I mean I personally agree that he should have a sword/Knife/Something. But truth be told after arguing about it for this entire month I've taken a 'wait and see' stance. Kings and Swords go hand in Hand but I think even if he gets a sword we aren't going to see him use it for awhile.

As for Franky and Kuma beams. Kuma's beam is based of Kizaru's attack. I don't think Frank will be able to replicate that. He will definitely get more weapons/better armor/and pets. But Not the laser beam. (No Solar Beam for Franky!)

Lord.Strife
September 22, 2010, 08:18 AM
There i one possible way that boa could join the sh. Since it been 2 years you could have the possibility of a new empress that has been trained by boa. boa steps down fakes death etc many possible ways.

The thing about boa is if she wants something she will generally find a way to get it. Thats my take on her personality

daman246
September 22, 2010, 08:37 AM
i seee lufi developing all of the haki zoro developing haki thats protects his sword sanji which tells when his enemies are gonna attack ussop attacking haki thats all for now

will like to see luffy with long hair since we know how stupi d luffi is he probably wont even notice thats his hair has grown in the past 2years

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 08:43 AM
There i one possible way that boa could join the sh. Since it been 2 years you could have the possibility of a new empress that has been trained by boa. boa steps down fakes death etc many possible ways.

The thing about boa is if she wants something she will generally find a way to get it. Thats my take on her personality
I guess Hancock would be a funny member of the crew. In some ways she's almost as dumb as Luffy. And Sanji would pitch a freakin fit that Luffy has a women and he doesn't. Not to mention she would kick Sanji's ass whenever he tried to hit on her. That shit would be so funny.


i seee lufi developing all of the haki zoro developing haki thats protects his sword sanji which tells when his enemies are gonna attack ussop attacking haki thats all for now

will like to see luffy with long hair since we know how stupi d luffi is he probably wont even notice thats his hair has grown in the past 2years

O_O Thats exactly what I wrote 3 posts up.

Me2Ecchi
September 22, 2010, 10:19 AM
Sanji the reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying. :blink


ROFLOL, the best theory about sanji in the entire discussion thread :D

blackking187
September 22, 2010, 11:41 AM
Okay, so I've been posting a lot of this stuff in the wrong forum... And no1 told me. =[
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'

Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking of nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye.

Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.

- The Weaker SHs.
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically.

Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF. :p

Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I belief that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink

Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)

Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.

Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.

______________________________________________________________

-Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou.
-Supernovas XDrake/Kid/Basil & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well.
-Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.
-Admirals: First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.
-Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble.
-Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'
-Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.
-Moria starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
-Doflamingo vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)
- Three New Shichibukai - Besides Buggy. My guess have been wrong here so I'll leave this alone for now. (Coming Soon.)
- Smoker -> Vice-Admiral.
- Coby -> Major. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself. :eek:
- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.
- A lot of people think Hancock or Jimbei will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.



(I will be adding more as more topics come to me.)

Almost everything you say i agree

-About the 3 new war lords: I think that buggy will become one also 1 of the super nova's will become a warlord who? Hopefully for the last spot a new character.

-About the marines: I think that akainu will become fleed admiral instead of aokiji. I believe a familiar face will become the new admiral smoker? cobi will become a vice admiral
And under the command of akainu the marines will become a force the people are scared of. Why akainu fleed admiral instead of aokiji don't think he will accept the promotion, because he just like garp.

-About the yonkou's The only 2 possible candidates are Blackbeard or marco and the rest of withe beard's crew+allies

-About the new and hopefully the last crew member of the sh crew i always believed i would be a fish man.
Think that fisherman's arc going to be like thriller bark arc. no to long.

-Don't forget luffy's adventure is like 1-1,5 years (something it looks longer) and what already happened. So a 2 year training is a long time in one piece a lot of things have happened.

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 07:53 PM
Almost everything you say i agree

-About the 3 new war lords: I think that buggy will become one also 1 of the super nova's will become a warlord who? Hopefully for the last spot a new character.

-About the marines: I think that akainu will become fleed admiral instead of aokiji. I believe a familiar face will become the new admiral smoker? cobi will become a vice admiral
And under the command of akainu the marines will become a force the people are scared of. Why akainu fleed admiral instead of aokiji don't think he will accept the promotion, because he just like garp.

-About the yonkou's The only 2 possible candidates are Blackbeard or marco and the rest of withe beard's crew+allies

-About the new and hopefully the last crew member of the sh crew i always believed i would be a fish man.
Think that fisherman's arc going to be like thriller bark arc. no to long.

-Don't forget luffy's adventure is like 1-1,5 years (something it looks longer) and what already happened. So a 2 year training is a long time in one piece a lot of things have happened.

-Akainu might be more what the marine leaders are looking for in temperament but from what we've seen of him he isn't all the 'smart'. Strong to be sure but he is more of a Brawn type character. All ass kicking and no strategy.
Aokiji on the other hand is smart really smart but his temperament might be to laid back for the post. Not to mention unlike Kizaru and Akainu he really didn't put that much effort into trying to take out Luffy. He attacked him once the entire war even after he defeated the guy from WB Pirates would was trying to defend Luffy. I think its up for grabs. Personally I would prefer Aokiji over Akainu. The fleet admiral position is like a 'General' in an army. He's the dude with the plan. I just don't see Akainu being able to effectively deploy marines to protect the world. And I personally think Kizaru is out just cause that dude is a nut job. :blink

- Law says he will steal the 'Proper Throne.' My guess is he either means to be a Yonkou which means he would have to go head to head with BB which Doesn't seem like his style or a Shichibukai. *Shrug* Everyone thinks Buggy will be a Shichibukai. Which makes me LOL. Stupidest decision the WG has made so far. All the pirates that teamed up with Buggy may have higher bounty them him but they are all weaker than Luffy by a big margin and this is before a 2-year time skip. So all things considered if buggy does become a Shichibukai he better hide under a rock or something or some rookie is going to take him out.

- As for the new SH it has to be someone who isn't entirely OP. Jimbei was taking hits from Akainu that qualifies as OP and besides if he joins it will have to be the 'Monster Quartet' instead of the monster trio. That dude is beast.

- Current Straw hat adventure in OP time has been like 6-8months. Luffy started the journey at 17 and is still 17.

Schabrak
September 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
Are you able to show me one moment, when Akainu was shown not to be intelligent as Aokiji or Kizaru? Some of the VAs might not be so bright, but those three are definitely someones not to joke with. Akainu was already shown to be scheming, just because he follows the absolute justice doesn't make him a brute, it's just that he is in full control of his powers and can back himself up against nearly anyone in the series. Anyway there's no way the WG would anounce and idiotic berserker to become admiral just for his strength.

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 08:50 PM
Are you able to show me one moment, when Akainu was shown not to be intelligent as Aokiji or Kizaru? Some of the VAs might not be so bright, but those three are definitely someones not to joke with. Akainu was already shown to be scheming, just because he follows the absolute justice doesn't make him a brute, it's just that he is in full control of his powers and can back himself up against nearly anyone in the series. Anyway there's no way the WG would anounce and idiotic berserker to become admiral just for his strength.
Heh, tbh the reason why I labeled him of lesser intelligence is simply this. From the info at hand, after Ace died the biggest threat to the world government was obviously Blackbeard. The fleet admiral's job is that he is the 'big picture' guy. He is the one who is supposed to be able to see the biggest threat to the world government and act accordingly. Akainu is fairly simple. 'I said I would destroy you so I can let hundreds die while I chase after one half dead pirate.' And he did trick a member of WB pirates but on Sengoku's orders. I find it very doubtful he would have thought of it himself. (Source: v58 ch563 p12-13) I'm not saying Akainu is dumb like Luffy. I'm saying he is a 'straight arrow'. You point him at something he attacks but if he was smart he would have seen the biggest threat to the WG was Blackbeard and he was about to kill a completely innocent Marine just for telling him he was being stupid. If shanks hadn't interceded when he did Akainu & Kizaru's focus on Luffy would have lead to the entire HQ and all the people they were supposed to protect & fight alongside being killed. By BB and his quakes.
Kizaru isn't likely to be fleet admiral. He is like a super powered goof. He is far spaced out to be a fleet admiral. He like Akainu is a good weapon but you need someone to know were to point the weapon.
Aokiji fits that roll far better imo. Aokiji has been known to act on his own initiative. Not to mention when Akainu went to capture blackbeard during the Jewelery Bonney exchange he rode on his ship in plain sight? -_-; If he would have simply waited below deck he would have had a good crack at BB although he probably would have lost. But that's besides the point.
Simply put. Akainu has the whole 'can't see the forest for the trees' thing going on.
PS: You're very argumentative. Oda wouldn't have shown Sengoku promoting Aokiji if Oda didn't intend for him to be fleet admiral. Just saying.

Schabrak
September 22, 2010, 09:10 PM
I never disagreed about Sengokus choice for Aokiji and don't intend to start a discussion about it.
Why should Akainu have left the center of the battle ground? To throw away the chance to take out the next most dangerous person, [->] Luffy by himself, not Blackbeard who was held of by Sengoku, who would if needed any help, just could call for either Kizaru or Aokiji, ariving seconds later or Garp or any other mighty strong VA.
We all [know] can imagine that behind that foolish attitude of Kizaru is a clever guy, that doesn't follow the plan to 100%. just because he doesn't need to in his position.

BlackSword
September 22, 2010, 09:21 PM
I suppose your right I guess. Sorry for being rude. And with Luffy's burst of COQ, I guess Akainu going after Luffy makes sense. Maybe I think Aokiji is better simply because I've run into him more time and I was jumping to conclusions.
What do you think about the rest of my predictions? You seem to have a talent for sniffing out the flaws in mine. :)
Edit Added Some Ideas Now that MH is back up.
- What do you guys think Enel / Cp9 's rolls are going to be when they rejoin the series?
- Strawhat's Taking on 'Apprentices' Once they get into the new world. I'm thinking they are going to find some 'troubled' kids along the way and maybe pick them up. (Once they are stronger & more confident in there strength.) Like Shanks/Buggy? Just an idea though. Don't really think it will happen.

Manoira87
September 23, 2010, 06:20 AM
Bonney was captured by Akainu, she has the power to make living things older or younger. I think she is forced to make the 5 elders to be young again (in my opinion the final enemy of the SH, because about the truth 800 years ago, the SH will reveal it to the world.)

Schabrak
September 23, 2010, 07:43 AM
I would be pretty disappointed, if Oda were really to use Bonny for that idea stated in 50%+ of theories about her future/use.

Even though I see both Enel and the ex-CP9 members reappear due to Oda's forshadowing a characters return in the past[Hatchan, Ace, Buggy], I see no reason for the CP9 to move onto the New World, unless they have trained for the last two years too. As many others I wish for a reappearence of Enel too, but hopefully as a side character like Buggy was in the last two arcs. After Luffy's training he shouldn't have any chance to win this time.

Magranon
September 23, 2010, 08:16 AM
I remember Akainu being a bloodcrazed pirate-hating, coward-hating "Absolute Justice" freak, and the fact that he didn't simply eliminate Bonney is questionable.

I think that she is a world noble, simple as that. Remember Sabo? He was a noble aswell who wanted to be free, Bonney could be the same, it would explain Akainu's actions very well. Remember that this guy, without mercy would even kill fellow marines for "greater" justice.

BENSKI
September 23, 2010, 11:58 AM
Been coming here for years. Decided to make an account.



Just my speculation for the upcoming years.( please forgive the grammar on the iphone)
Ive read some with the same theory as mine :)

luffy - WILL be able to use all 3 color and color of conqueror will be his best suit( of course) maybe some time fuckin gear 4th combing some of the colors, some shit like that.

zoro - I see him with color of armaments to like protect his sword of some sort, I think jeff mentioned him having a sea stone sword( I also agree with this.) But he still wnt be on level with mihawk, but probably able to fight him now.

sanji - samething color of armaments, but also with the new kama kenpo.

ussop - of course we know his phsical look is changing, but also hes gonna be like a sicker sniper but with haki bullets. More use of the dials too of course.

brook - I said this b4, his music will be illusion type attacks. Not Just sleep plp.

robin - Double agent :) works for both luffy and dragon...I dnt see anything else she can do with her df.

franky - fortify his body( espcially his back :P) more weapons..coming months will change thousand sunny+++++ almost in the end of the story WILL put PLUTO in the ship to get to raftel. quote me on this.

chopper - will master monster point, obvious...better doctor + maybe make some sick senzu beans oh yeaa I said it.

nami - I want her to get a df ;( fuck it...knowledge of weather+new world is increased..she'll probably find enel, lighting island.

coby - will be a admiral...prob too early maybe vice admiral.

blackbeard or marco - either one of em, could take the spot of yonkou.

enel and sabo - will be coming back.

dragon - Has the fruit of weather.

boa - still hoping she would join the SH.

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 01:21 PM
robin - Double agent works for both luffy and dragon...I dnt see anything else she can do with her df. I find this a horrifying idea. Robin's Family is the strawhats. Her betraying them would be like someone betraying their mother. And Oda already did a 'Robin' Arc so to speak. She went to join Dragon to 'get a little stronger' as she said. And Dragon being a world class fighter obviously gives the window for Oda to have her learn haki.


enel and sabo - will be coming back.
I was watching the flashbacks and thinking their might be a possibility that he is with TRA. Enel is probably coming back but I don't think he is going to have improved much fighting wise. Unlike the SH he really hasn't been fighting constant opponents and he really thought he himself was 'god'. That wasn't him play acting he thought he was the most powerful. And even though Luffy kicked his ass he got away so he will probably consider it a fluke. People like him don't ever think they need to be stronger.

The rest of your Ideas I like!

Edit: Updated Theories (Added Some, Changes Some)

- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'

Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking of nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye.

Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.
The reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying.

- The Weaker SHs:
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. (This will probably happen in the first Major Arc of the New World.) I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically. Bombs as well as all his usually repertoire.

Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF.

Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I belief that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink

Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)

Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. Most likely COO. She has always been the 'brains' type. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.

Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.

- New SH Crew Member: A lot of people think Hancock, Jimbei or Perona will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.
Perona: I would definitely rather see Boa join than her and with Moria's disappearing act I would say she will most likely go back to her Captain. In the Thrillerbark Arc she seemed to have great knowledge of 'Bounties' as in who people are and what their bounty is and what their reputation is. That's pretty much what Robin does... Her other skill is limited-medical knowledge. That's Choppers job. I just don't see the crew needing her.

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- Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou.
- Supernovas: XDrake/Kid/Basil/Law & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well.
- Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.
- Admirals: Aokiji New Fleet Admiral. First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.
- Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble.
- Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'
- Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.
- Moria: starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
- Doflamingo: vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)
- Three New Shichibukai: - Besides Buggy. One Supernova (Your guess is as good as mine.) & Marco. (Although people will protest saying that Marco will not work for the WG who killed his 'Father & Brother'. But I think for someone like Marco he will do whatever it takes to protect WBs family and his territories. And I don't think he will have the power to ascend to Yonkou level.
- Smoker: -> Vice-Admiral.
- Coby: -> Major. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself.
- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.
- CP9: I foresee the 'Pacifista' being used by the elders against town or individual that helped SH in the past. Possibly Water 7. I'm thinking CP9 will choose then to make an 'appearance'. They also have a bone to pick with the 'World Government'. If Rob Lucci's personality has changed after being defeated by Luffy there is also the possibility of CP9 getting recruited by the RA. (Side characters though. I don't see CP9 as on par with SH.)
- Enel: This dude is a beast. Sure he did get beat by Luffy but he is the only one who wouldn't be effected by his 'Lightning.' This dude would cause some real bad-ass trouble if he came down from the moon. He has COO haki, he is is a Logia pretty much he is a beast. The only person I see beating him are possibly Smoker or Kizaru.
- Luffy's Mother: The fact that we know nothing about her and that she was never mentioned makes me thinks she is still alive. I have a feeling she is going to play a major role in future arcs. I believe she is going to also have 'The will of D'. She is going to be bad ass.

(I will be adding more as more topics come to me.)

BENSKI
September 23, 2010, 03:05 PM
^ thanx..

as for robin, not betray SH at all. Thats never gonna happen, but I see her as a revolutionary as well. That sort of type.
Her learning haki is almost a must. Each of the SH should be able to take down a pacifista or a vice admiral single handedly.

BurnSchulz
September 23, 2010, 06:16 PM
I now predict something really funny.

I Thought of it some Days ago, and because i didnt really read the long prediction thread i dont know if someone of you already guessed it.


So:

I think all of the Strawhat members will change their appearances in style and look.

So, so far not very special prediction, as everyone guessed so far i think.

But my special prediction is, that Roronoa Zoro will change the way he carry his Swords.

Maybe some other person guessed it too, i dont know.
Bud the first thing i thought about was, how to get stronger, and the second thing was, how to get prepared for everything that might come in the new world. Understand?

If Zoro change the way he carry his sowrds, he could possibly draw them quicker and be faster in a fight, what certainly must be present in the new world.

So different than before, i think Zoro will now carry Shuusui on the left side of his limb, to have it ready fast with his right hand.
His kitetsu on the right side of his limb, to get it ready fast with his left hand.
And Wado-Ichi-Monji maybe on his Back, so he can pull it out with his mouth (wich must be looking funny i guess xD).



I hope you understand the way i thought about this. (And i hope my english was not to bad to understand this.)

My priority thought was how to advance a good fighter. And for Zoro i thought "He could be change the Way of wearing his swords just to draw them faster."

Because this skill might be needed in the new world.
Beside of that, if he can draw all three Swords in one move, he could insert an instant attack just in the move he draws his swords.

Besides of the faster drawing-move, he would be alltime ready for his Rashomon attack. (Or for all three sowrds at once the 108 Pound attack)



in the overall view of my prediction it sounds very unlikely, and i loved the way Zoro draws his swords slowly and cool.
But who knows what may be happen in the new world.


I Hope you will read this, because this is somewhow the fiirst real prediction i ever had (and maybe a little unimportant for the story xD)

Thank you.

BENSKI
September 23, 2010, 06:31 PM
pulling the sword with his mouth from the back? lol I wanna see that happen.
thats a little bit too much ;) But I def like the idea of him carrying his swords diff.

Schabrak
September 23, 2010, 06:44 PM
Having to move his head to the side, loosing his focus on what's in front of him will definitely not help win reacting faster than before. :P I'm trying, but is anybody able to turn his/her head to his back without breaking the neck?

He's already fighting on a much higher speed than a normal human could ever do, I don't really see him needing to change the position of his swords to react any faster. We've already seen him react out of aniticipation or just passive reaction.

BurnSchulz
September 23, 2010, 07:09 PM
Well yes, as you figured out really fast, the only weak point of my prediction is the (neck) "sword on back - draw with mouth" idea.

But i wouldnt believe that he will break his neck just by trying it, i mean he is able to Fight with his mouth... if his neck would be so weak, his neck would already been broken just by blocking a swored attack with Wado-Ichi-Monchi in his mouth.



So i still dont believe carrying swords in a different way is such a bad idea after all, even if the back wont be the best reachable place for his mouth.

(Shuusui and Kitetsu on left and right will pwn!)

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 07:33 PM
^ thanx..

as for robin, not betray SH at all. Thats never gonna happen, but I see her as a revolutionary as well. That sort of type.
Her learning haki is almost a must. Each of the SH should be able to take down a pacifista or a vice admiral single handedly.
If Oda makes Robin 'betray' the SH again. Thats like a complete Repeat of Enies Lobby & Arlong Arcs. Complete waist of time. Not to mention the whole reason she is going with the RA is to get stronger for 'Luffy's sake'. If she turns around and betrays them, the one group of people who are willing to fight any enemy to protect her Robin's character will be destroyed. Not to mention she says she doesn't trust them when she gets on their ship. I might quit reading OP if Robin betrays the strawhats again. Cause the whole 'leave the crew' and come back bit is getting really old. Oda has already used it 3 times. Nami, Usopp & Robin. If Oda can't come up with a better idea than that I'm going to be furious.
Robin was willing to let the WG get a weapon of mass destruction to protect the SH. If she betrays the SH trying to take them down it will just be so annoying. -_-;

BurnSchulz
September 23, 2010, 07:36 PM
Heres a fast drawing of my thoughts.

[ - Link didnt work - better version next post - ]

I somehow like this thought ^^

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 07:39 PM
@BurnSchulz: Can't see whats in your spoiler tag? Your having no thoughts? :p

BurnSchulz
September 23, 2010, 07:49 PM
@BurnSchulz: Can't see whats in your spoiler tag? Your having no thoughts? :p

Ah, youre right, there was some problem with the link from the uploader site.


That was what i wanted to show you:

http://www.myimg.de/?img=ZoroSwordDraw3ebe47.png


(Now it has to work) :(

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 07:54 PM
Zoro is pretty 'Super Human'. And Oda always gives him time to draw his swords. Not to mention he can already draw them so fast that most normal people can't react. Zoro's signature is the Three swords on one hip. Idk I just don't see him doing it that way. Not to mention that after training with Mihawk, he is going to be faster, stronger and most likely able to predict any threat/opposition.
Not to mention Katana's are long. 4-6 Feet. His neck simply isn't long enough for hiim to be able to draw it that way.

BurnSchulz
September 23, 2010, 07:58 PM
Zoro is pretty 'Super Human'. And Oda always gives him time to draw his swords. Not to mention he can already draw them so fast that most normal people can't react. Zoro's signature is the Three swords on one hip. Idk I just don't see him doing it that way. Not to mention that after training with Mihawk, he is going to be faster, stronger and most likely able to predict any threat/opposition.

Youre absolutely right, and i totally aggree with you, especially the "Sig of Zoro" Part.

Maybe i was a little to overexited, but i love this idea. (It doesnt fit to Zoro yes ^^)

Freid
September 23, 2010, 08:57 PM
@BurnSchulz. That theory made me think of Killer bee from naruto. The guy uses 8 swords to fight and he owns with it.

But that makes me think. Luffy's upgrades are potentially endless (excluding haki cause their fighting styles wont be effected). Luffy can add more gears and the fact that he can possibly get a weapon to use which would grant him two ways of fighting. But then there is zoro and with the exclusion of haki, what real upgrades is he going to get that would allow us to see something new. Getting different swords still aint going to change the way he fights. Mihawk training him is indeed going to make him stronger, faster, but subsequently what we would see is him fighting the same only that we know this time he is stronger and faster. Thats what i dislike about Zoros fighting, that from what we have seen, at the level he has grown to in swords fighting, he pretty much fights exactly the same as someone below him......except we know that he is stronger. The zoro vs kaku fight is a good example. In that whole fight, the most versatile was kaku and his sword fighting was much more impressive than Zoros (because of his devil fruit). Zoro just fought exactly the same as he always does then did the one second Asura. The way i see Zoro's sword swordsmanship progressing is basically stronger ones of those one second techniques he does whilst the rest of his fighting would remain boring (on his part). I hope Oda makes Zoro's swordsmanship more versatile like kaku's. Even if it means giving him a devil fruit, and that is not me inviting a discussion about him getting a devil fruit or not cause it remains a fact that it's possible.

And im aware zoros techniques aint literally one second. I only tried to express the way his sword fighting is basic when fighting offensively and is not really effective against his opponents until he does one of his techniques which actually is like one second if you dont count the build up. It would be cool if in the future Zoro's sword fighting would allow him to have fights like luffys where he is actually doing major damage to his opponents in the course of the whole fight rather than having a technique that just finishes everything.

And also, on the discussion about who is most likely to become fleet admiral. Its simple, aoikiji is more suitable but akainu is most likely. The discussion came up in this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62984) thread and
this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2076132#post2076132) is my explanation.

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 09:55 PM
@BurnSchulz. That theory made me think of Killer bee from naruto. The guy uses 8 swords to fight and he owns with it.

But that makes me think. Luffy's upgrades are potentially endless (excluding haki cause their fighting styles wont be effected). Luffy can add more gears and the fact that he can possibly get a weapon to use which would grant him two ways of fighting. But then there is zoro and with the exclusion of haki, what real upgrades is he going to get that would allow us to see something new. Getting different swords still aint going to change the way he fights. Mihawk training him is indeed going to make him stronger, faster, but subsequently what we would see is him fighting the same only that we know this time he is stronger and faster. Thats what i dislike about Zoros fighting, that from what we have seen, at the level he has grown to in swords fighting, he pretty much fights exactly the same as someone below him......except we know that he is stronger. The zoro vs kaku fight is a good example. In that whole fight, the most versatile was kaku and his sword fighting was much more impressive than Zoros (because of his devil fruit). Zoro just fought exactly the same as he always does then did the one second Asura. The way i see Zoro's sword swordsmanship progressing is basically stronger ones of those one second techniques he does whilst the rest of his fighting would remain boring (on his part). I hope Oda makes Zoro's swordsmanship more versatile like kaku's. Even if it means giving him a devil fruit, and that is not me inviting a discussion about him getting a devil fruit or not cause it remains a fact that it's possible.

And im aware zoros techniques aint literally one second. I only tried to express the way his sword fighting is basic when fighting offensively and is not really effective against his opponents until he does one of his techniques which actually is like one second if you dont count the build up. It would be cool if in the future Zoro's sword fighting would allow him to have fights like luffys where he is actually doing major damage to his opponents in the course of the whole fight rather than having a technique that just finishes everything.

And also, on the discussion about who is most likely to become fleet admiral. Its simple, aoikiji is more suitable but akainu is most likely. The discussion came up in this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62984) thread and
this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2076132#post2076132) is my explanation.

The reason why Zoro ends his fights in one move is cause... Idk his opponents get stabbed with a sword? I mean Luffy's fights are able to last longer and have him do massive damage because Luffy uses no weapon. The second you get cut you start to lose blood, blood loss makes your reaction time slower and eventually will effect all of your senses. Knife fighters in general go for multiple slice wounds that will eventually tire/weaken the opponent allowing the knife user to go in for the kill. Swords on the other hand are big. Katana's are usually 4-6 feet long if you slice someone with a sword they are going to be fucked up. And most people are not like Luffy who can sustain injuries like he got nuked and keep on fighting. The whole samurai thing, most sword fights are ended in 1-2 exchanges. Unless the they are equally matched and it will be a long fight of endurance. Sword fights generally speaking once the blade touches skin the fight is pretty much over.
I believe Zoro is Oda's version of a Samurai. Testing your opponents swordsman ship seeing the holes in the defense of said swordsman shit then finishing your opponent before he has a chance to fix said holes.
You really can't take massive damage from a sword and still be up and ready to fight. Sword fighting in general isn't very interesting it was made to be the most efficient way to end your opponent and I'm fairly sure Oda will keep Zoro's fights they way they have been.

.kiyou
September 23, 2010, 10:05 PM
I don't see how Luffy can get new gears...
Like, what he will extend this time? Gear 2 = veins, Gear 3 = bones. He can put haki into those, but I can't see him creating a new gear just because there is haki :/

What I really want to see is Franky like a Transformer. He could improve his Centaur form :p

elitefox
September 23, 2010, 10:20 PM
Bonney was captured by Akainu, she has the power to make living things older or younger. I think she is forced to make the 5 elders to be young again (in my opinion the final enemy of the SH, because about the truth 800 years ago, the SH will reveal it to the world.)

Hmm, what if that G-5 is actually already leaving for 800 years :D

and because of bonney they aren't aging and once bonney has escape, there was a need to recapture her again. :D

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 10:45 PM
Hmm, what if that G-5 is actually already leaving for 800 years :D

and because of bonney they aren't aging and once bonney has escape, there was a need to recapture her again. :D

With Oda's imagination I wouldn't completely rule out this theory. The world nobles are supposed to be the Descendants of the 'Creators' of this world. If the 5 Star Elders are really 800 years old that would be insane. Cause World Nobles would be there like Great-*8 grandkids. o_O
Although the 5 Star Elders strike me as just plain creepy/evil. -_-;

Freid
September 23, 2010, 10:46 PM
The reason why Zoro ends his fights in one move is cause... Idk his opponents get stabbed with a sword? I mean Luffy's fights are able to last longer and have him do massive damage because Luffy uses no weapon. The second you get cut you start to lose blood, blood loss makes your reaction time slower and eventually will effect all of your senses. Knife fighters in general go for multiple slice wounds that will eventually tire/weaken the opponent allowing the knife user to go in for the kill. Swords on the other hand are big. Katana's are usually 4-6 feet long if you slice someone with a sword they are going to be fucked up. And most people are not like Luffy who can sustain injuries like he got nuked and keep on fighting. The whole samurai thing, most sword fights are ended in 1-2 exchanges. Unless the they are equally matched and it will be a long fight of endurance. Sword fights generally speaking once the blade touches skin the fight is pretty much over.
I believe Zoro is Oda's version of a Samurai. Testing your opponents swordsman ship seeing the holes in the defense of said swordsman shit then finishing your opponent before he has a chance to fix said holes.
You really can't take massive damage from a sword and still be up and ready to fight. Sword fighting in general isn't very interesting it was made to be the most efficient way to end your opponent and I'm fairly sure Oda will keep Zoro's fights they way they have been.

Yh everything you say is true but you solely based it on reality.. What I mean is in that yh swords cut and draws blood and that fact remain both in reality and in the manga. But then the effects that you stated does not happen in one piece, atleast not if Oda wants it to. Its like the way in reality those punches luffy gives would have broken someones jaw ten times over beyond repair but all Oda allows it to do here is knock them out. With that said, I can very well see Oda making luffy give someone a broken jaw in an extreme situation like what happened with bellamy. Similarly, the effects you stated of being cut constantly with a sword hasn't been shown in the manga so far and probably won't be unless in rare situations or for plot purposes. Take the kaku vs zoro fight again for example. That fight is why you can't liken the effects of being cut with a sword in reality to being cut with a sword in one piece. Zoro was cut times without number by kakus attacks and we were not shown any of his five senses failing at any point. Similarly with him fightin Daz although Daz was not a swordsman. There are probably more examples but that isn't even my point anyway. With all of that said, its safe to say that it is possible for Zoro to deal damage to his opponents over the course of the whole battle rather than ending it with one technique just like kaku, a fellow swordsman, did to him. That is also why I say even if it means that Oda should give zoro a devil fruit since that is what enabled kaku to be so versatile. Yh you are probably right that Zoro is Odas version of a samurai which would explain it, but that is precisely my problem. But I know its not everyone elses problem, I jus personally dislike that way of fighting.

Edit: half of my post may not make sense. Lol I'm tired and half asleep so I'm goin sleep

BlackSword
September 23, 2010, 11:22 PM
Yh everything you say is true but you solely based it on reality.. What I mean is in that yh swords cut and draws blood and that fact remain both in reality and in the manga. But then the effects that you stated does not happen in one piece, atleast not if Oda wants it to. Its like the way in reality those punches luffy gives would have broken someones jaw ten times over beyond repair but all Oda allows it to do here is knock them out. With that said, I can very well see Oda making luffy give someone a broken jaw in an extreme situation like what happened with bellamy. Similarly, the effects you stated of being cut constantly with a sword hasn't been shown in the manga so far and probably won't be unless in rare situations or for plot purposes. Take the kaku vs zoro fight again for example. That fight is why you can't liken the effects of being cut with a sword in reality to being cut with a sword in one piece. Zoro was cut times without number by kakus attacks and we were not shown any of his five senses failing at any point. Similarly with him fightin Daz although Daz was not a swordsman. There are probably more examples but that isn't even my point anyway. With all of that said, its safe to say that it is possible for Zoro to deal damage to his opponents over the course of the whole battle rather than ending it with one technique just like kaku, a fellow swordsman, did to him. That is also why I say even if it means that Oda should give zoro a devil fruit since that is what enabled kaku to be so versatile. Yh you are probably right that Zoro is Odas version of a samurai which would explain it, but that is precisely my problem. But I know its not everyone elses problem, I jus personally dislike that way of fighting.

Edit: half of my post may not make sense. Lol I'm tired and half asleep so I'm goin sleep

Nope Nope. Makes sense. And maybe with more opponents they fight in the future using 'Haki' you might see him doing massive damage. Kaku was an 'all around fighter' more than a pure swordsman. But I understand your point. Opponents using 'haki' might make the fights vs Zoro last longer. And the possibility of him changing his fighting style is there. I just think that as well as Zoro is Oda's Samurai. Zoro's finisher style is Zoro's way. But I believe one of the things Mihawk is going to teach Zoro is to take better care of his body. Their hasn't been a serious fight that he has been in that he hasn't sustained serious damage. And although his superior 'will power' keeps him from dying negating that damage from the get go should be his top priority. There will be times were he will need to be in his top condition to protect his crew and he can't be on deaths door after every opponent. (Same goes for Luffy and his life shortening techniques. Who is going to defend his crew (luffy) if one of his techniques kills him.)

.kiyou
September 24, 2010, 08:13 AM
Yh everything you say is true but you solely based it on reality.. What I mean is in that yh swords cut and draws blood and that fact remain both in reality and in the manga. But then the effects that you stated does not happen in one piece, atleast not if Oda wants it to. Its like the way in reality those punches luffy gives would have broken someones jaw ten times over beyond repair but all Oda allows it to do here is knock them out. With that said, I can very well see Oda making luffy give someone a broken jaw in an extreme situation like what happened with bellamy. Similarly, the effects you stated of being cut constantly with a sword hasn't been shown in the manga so far and probably won't be unless in rare situations or for plot purposes. Take the kaku vs zoro fight again for example. That fight is why you can't liken the effects of being cut with a sword in reality to being cut with a sword in one piece. Zoro was cut times without number by kakus attacks and we were not shown any of his five senses failing at any point. Similarly with him fightin Daz although Daz was not a swordsman. There are probably more examples but that isn't even my point anyway. With all of that said, its safe to say that it is possible for Zoro to deal damage to his opponents over the course of the whole battle rather than ending it with one technique just like kaku, a fellow swordsman, did to him. That is also why I say even if it means that Oda should give zoro a devil fruit since that is what enabled kaku to be so versatile. Yh you are probably right that Zoro is Odas version of a samurai which would explain it, but that is precisely my problem. But I know its not everyone elses problem, I jus personally dislike that way of fighting.

Edit: half of my post may not make sense. Lol I'm tired and half asleep so I'm goin sleep

Well, the best example of this is his fight against Ryuma. All the fight was decided with just that attack.
I think he could get a DF that changes his body, not a Logia, but a Paramecia, like Jozu or Daz. This way he could endure more attacks :P

beastboy
September 24, 2010, 08:19 AM
Maybe its just me, but I found it stylish when a fight is short but well done!

I just love those fights that don't take more than 5 min's, but are just plain epic!

And thats Zoro's way... Just whatch Ryuma vs Zoro, it had some blow exchange, but the moment Zoro went for the final slash it was just awesome!

And Brooke is also a good example!
What would be the point of Hanauta Sanshou, Yahazu Giri if it isn't a 1 shot kill!

Actually I love when they say "this blow will end everything" and then its just plain power exchange!

BENSKI
September 24, 2010, 08:33 AM
Oda is staying true to the ways of samurai fights thousands of years ago. Quick.
Out of all shishi strike zoro does is amazing aswell.

sarutobi_sensei
September 24, 2010, 08:34 AM
That's what I like about Brooke too. I hope that Oda makes him a little more durable.

Being a skeleton, doesn't give him much space to grow. Damn Oda for having made that skeleton :| Why not leave some flesh and look like a Zombie xD

Oh well, he'd probably be dead by now if he still had his body.

Schabrak
September 24, 2010, 09:19 AM
Anime ep time != real time, of course it's taking longer, since much is filler. We've only seen a few long fights in the manga, like the Oz one on TB or Luffys fight with Lucci and that's only a result to their durability.

@BENSKI: There weren't any samurai thousands of years ago. :P Japan was full of farming people a little bit over a millenium ago with nearly no culture. Thus said it has no long history like china.

BENSKI
September 24, 2010, 11:39 AM
Well you know what I mean..what number are we looking at 100yrs?


Brook def needs a durability upgrade. Maybe theres something else in his df for him to uncover.

BlackSword
September 24, 2010, 01:00 PM
Anime ep time != real time, of course it's taking longer, since much is filler. We've only seen a few long fights in the manga, like the Oz one on TB or Luffys fight with Lucci and that's only a result to their durability.

@BENSKI: There weren't any samurai thousands of years ago. :P Japan was full of farming people a little bit over a millenium ago with nearly no culture. Thus said it has no long history like china.

Japan has is the longest surviving 'warrior' culture. That was most definitely around 1000 years ago. Their have been Samurai since late 10 & Early 11th century bc. Which last time I did math was more than a 1000 years ago.
By the mid-Heian period they had already founded Bushido (Samura code of ethics).

normax
September 25, 2010, 10:23 AM
After Mihawk as trained zoro for 2 years do you think Mihawk will still be as strong as he was before he trained Zoro? Since if he is Shiryuu could be getting stronger past the two years or Vista training to become the best because of how he wasnt strong enough to save Ace?

BlackSword
September 25, 2010, 04:37 PM
After Mihawk as trained zoro for 2 years do you think Mihawk will still be as strong as he was before he trained Zoro? Since if he is Shiryuu could be getting stronger past the two years or Vista training to become the best because of how he wasnt strong enough to save Ace?
There are seem to be a lot of swordsman in the series that haven't quite reached 'the top'. But in reality Shiryuu and Vista are 2 most likely replacements for Mihawk, however I wouldn't put it past Oda to add someone completely new. We have not met all the 'strongest' people in the world. Their could very well be other marines who didn't make it to Marine HQ for the war.
I'm pretty sure he will stay at roughly the same level of power throughout Zoro's training. If Zoro was on Par with Mihawk at the begining you could expect Mihawk to grow expodentially but seeing as we predict Zoro will almost be able to touch Mihawk by the time he has to return to his crew I don't see Mihawk improving. However people like Shiryuu who love to fight I expect him to grow a lot. In Shiryuu's case enough to possibly defeat Mihawk. This is from what we know of Shiryuu, his first time to the 'New World' his strength is going to rocket up from all the new types of opponents he will face. And he loves to kill people for fun so I could see him attacking Mihawk.

BENSKI
September 26, 2010, 01:56 PM
I would also like to think that the all the legendary swords out have been found and have owners just waiting in the new world. Either way swordsmans in one piece will not be overlooked.

SharpKnives
September 26, 2010, 04:39 PM
@BurnSchulz. That theory made me think of Killer bee from naruto. The guy uses 8 swords to fight and he owns with it.

But that makes me think. Luffy's upgrades are potentially endless (excluding haki cause their fighting styles wont be effected). Luffy can add more gears and the fact that he can possibly get a weapon to use which would grant him two ways of fighting. But then there is zoro and with the exclusion of haki, what real upgrades is he going to get that would allow us to see something new. Getting different swords still aint going to change the way he fights. Mihawk training him is indeed going to make him stronger, faster, but subsequently what we would see is him fighting the same only that we know this time he is stronger and faster. Thats what i dislike about Zoros fighting, that from what we have seen, at the level he has grown to in swords fighting, he pretty much fights exactly the same as someone below him......except we know that he is stronger. The zoro vs kaku fight is a good example. In that whole fight, the most versatile was kaku and his sword fighting was much more impressive than Zoros (because of his devil fruit). Zoro just fought exactly the same as he always does then did the one second Asura. The way i see Zoro's sword swordsmanship progressing is basically stronger ones of those one second techniques he does whilst the rest of his fighting would remain boring (on his part). I hope Oda makes Zoro's swordsmanship more versatile like kaku's. Even if it means giving him a devil fruit, and that is not me inviting a discussion about him getting a devil fruit or not cause it remains a fact that it's possible.

And im aware zoros techniques aint literally one second. I only tried to express the way his sword fighting is basic when fighting offensively and is not really effective against his opponents until he does one of his techniques which actually is like one second if you dont count the build up. It would be cool if in the future Zoro's sword fighting would allow him to have fights like luffys where he is actually doing major damage to his opponents in the course of the whole fight rather than having a technique that just finishes everything.

And also, on the discussion about who is most likely to become fleet admiral. Its simple, aoikiji is more suitable but akainu is most likely. The discussion came up in this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62984) thread and
this (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2076132#post2076132) is my explanation.

This is basically why I see Sanji as stronger. Basically thats his weakness instead of weakening his opponent he just ends up getting weaker himself. Training with Mihawk will definitely help him become more flawless. Adding a little tact to his fights will make his fights longer and perhaps allow him to become less injured and do more. Honestly I would like to see Zoro beat his opponents with relative ease like Sanji.

vongola_x
September 27, 2010, 12:26 AM
Training with Mihawk will definitely help him become more flawless. Adding a little tact to his fights will make his fights longer and perhaps allow him to become less injured and do more. Honestly I would like to see Zoro beat his opponents with relative ease like Sanji.

Deeper tact would be great for Zoro to have, but considering how dense he is at times, I'm not completely sure it would fit his style. While Luffy and Sanji have shown themselves to be much more perceptive in terms of identifying and developing combat tactics, Zoro is a bruiser through and through. What I see him learning from Mihawk goes beyond a more polished sword technique... I see him learning how to effectively use Haki to bolster his combat style. The same applies for Sanji, as I anticipate that some of the Okama Kenpo masters will apply the principles of Haki into their techniques and fighting styles.

BlackSword
September 27, 2010, 01:16 AM
Deeper tact would be great for Zoro to have, but considering how dense he is at times, I'm not completely sure it would fit his style. While Luffy and Sanji have shown themselves to be much more perceptive in terms of identifying and developing combat tactics, Zoro is a bruiser through and through. What I see him learning from Mihawk goes beyond a more polished sword technique... I see him learning how to effectively use Haki to bolster his combat style. The same applies for Sanji, as I anticipate that some of the Okama Kenpo masters will apply the principles of Haki into their techniques and fighting styles.
Sanji just magically comes up with techniques. Zoro trains and trains and trains to get stronger. Everyone says Zoro doesn't learn/come up with new things but he has the largest variety of attacks of every character in OP with the exception of Luffy. Not to mention that Zoro's entire sword style was invented by Zoro. His last new ability. 'Asura' that he used in the Enies Lobby arc was awesome... Sanji has good tactical sense, like closing the gate of justice so they could escape or sneaking onto the train after robin. But all in all Sanji is a foundation-less character. Saying that Sanji is stronger than Zoro is just offensive.

Renaan
September 27, 2010, 05:51 AM
I really hope Mihawk maintains the title of greatest swordsman right upto the very end, Zoro's whole point is to defeat that man. Being better than him mid point in the story is silly in my opinion. I'd rather them part ways (somewhat curtiousnly) and Mihawk having a mind bubble somewhat of 'he really coiuld surpass me... time will tell'

Zoro needs to reach that potention by defeating people. Actually on a long term long shot out there prediction... Zoro and Mihawk are abouts to fight and then... they don't

There first encounter Mihawk says that Zoro should have been able to feel the difference in level without even drawing his sword. Yes it would suck massive donkey balls, but I've seen worse trolls. Mihawk then says 'you really did surpass me' and walks away.

BlackSword
September 27, 2010, 07:05 AM
I really hope Mihawk maintains the title of greatest swordsman right upto the very end, Zoro's whole point is to defeat that man. Being better than him mid point in the story is silly in my opinion. I'd rather them part ways (somewhat curtiousnly) and Mihawk having a mind bubble somewhat of 'he really coiuld surpass me... time will tell'

Zoro needs to reach that potention by defeating people. Actually on a long term long shot out there prediction... Zoro and Mihawk are abouts to fight and then... they don't

There first encounter Mihawk says that Zoro should have been able to feel the difference in level without even drawing his sword. Yes it would suck massive donkey balls, but I've seen worse trolls. Mihawk then says 'you really did surpass me' and walks away.

I don't think anyone has ever said Zoro will defeat Mihawk Lmao. I don't even think its a possibility... What we have said is that it goes against the SH nature to beat the shit out of people that have helped them even if its his goal. Thus Oda has to do something and his only real option is to have someone else beat Mihawk first. And whoever beats Mihawk will be Zoro's final opponent before becoming 'the greatest swordsman' which is his true goal. People seem to confuse beating Mihawk and becoming the worlds greatest swordsman =\ And tbh you really can't attain the level of 'strongest' without beating up the previous strongest. People will just assume your lying...

Renaan
September 27, 2010, 08:29 AM
I've lost out how many times Zorro specifically states that his goal is to defeat THAT man. he MUST defeat Mihawk in my opinion but I highly doubt it'll be a fight to the death, they'll end up respecting each other too much for that. The respect was shown at their first encounter where Mihawk could have truly destroyed Zorro had he wished. All characters have END game fight, this for me is Zorro's :)

Saint Markus
September 27, 2010, 08:45 AM
i actually like the fact that Oda is taking 4 weeks off to prepare the next story arc, especially with all the new changes that will follow. plus, us fans, will better appreciate the manga in the long run.

also, this is where Luffy will be changed forever and i imagine Oda is going to change him greatly as Kishi did with Naruto after he trained with Jiraiya or even when Goku returned from Kami's tower and came back as a teen to fight Piccolo-Daimo's reincarnation.

anyways, with Luffy training under Rayleigh, i think Rayleigh will not only train Luffy but also reveal some secrets that he learned being with Gol D. Roger. can't wait for One Piece to come back.

Lord Rayleigh
September 27, 2010, 10:17 AM
anyways, with Luffy training under Rayleigh, i think Rayleigh will not only train Luffy but also reveal some secrets that he learned being with Gol D. Roger. can't wait for One Piece to come back.
That's impossible. Do you remember Luffy's reaction when Ussop asked Rayleigh about One Piece ? :blink

RobLPMG02
September 27, 2010, 10:37 AM
That's impossible. Do you remember Luffy's reaction when Ussop asked Rayleigh about One Piece ? :blink

Well...yes and no. While I don't see Rayleigh telling Luffy about those sorts of things...I could see him knowing how Roger was able to hear the "voice of all things" (it might be some form of haki...or maybe something about the "Will of D" or something like that) and somehow teaching that to Luffy, or explaining it, any # of things along those lines.

Do I think it WILL happen? No. However, it's still a possibility, however small. ;)

That being said...it seems as if Oda's setting things up for a "perfect" showdown between Luffy's crew and Blackbeard's crew as the climax of the series, or something like that. I'm not entirely sure how the members would match up with each other, however...it just seems that way to me (although...who really knows, lol). If this is actually the case, then it might make some sort of sense to find out that Shiryuu has indeed defeated Mihawk...to give zoro a reason to actually fight him (other than he's the enemy, that is), given that his ultimate goal IS to become the world's greatest swordsman and not JUST to defeat Mihawk (although atm, that would be tantamount to becoming said swordsman).

Only time and the chapters will really tell, though...unless Oda decides to spoil everyone or something! :P lol

Lord Rayleigh
September 27, 2010, 11:06 AM
There is a reason why Robin finally did not learn what was the Will of D. and the Lost Century. It's because it's better for the Straw Hats to discover the truth by themselves. So you can be sure that Rayleigh won't tell Luffy about the Will of D. Besides we're supposed to learn what it is at the same time the Straw Hats do. And Luffy is not really interested in these kinds of things. He also does not want to learn them from others because he wants his journey to be an adventure.

Bugzee
September 27, 2010, 11:17 AM
Rayleigh may give hints and indications to Luffy about certain things...but it's highly unlikely that he would directly tell him how to get to Raftel, OP, etc.

I personally think Luffy himself will slowly but surely grasp a few important things during his haki training with Rayleigh that will aid him and his crew in the future; and I'm not talking about just the fighting capabilities of the crew here.

Anti-panda
September 28, 2010, 10:15 PM
Well judging by luffys reaction when ussop mentioned having raleigh tell him about raftel ... (I'll quit being a pirate) .. I don't think luffy would want to know about the will of D. .. or anything else for that matter .. the surprise of finding out means more to him ..
The journey .. not the destination is the important thing ^_^ in many things .. not just OP.

scyter
September 29, 2010, 05:23 AM
Will there be shounen jump on October 11 because on that day it's "holiday" in japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_Sports_Day

iloveonepiece
October 01, 2010, 10:57 PM
wonder how shiryuu would look outside his uniform. would he be kinda like ... bizarro superman?

BlackSword
October 02, 2010, 07:58 PM
Updated Ideas. New Ideas will be below the 'Edits' Line. And throughout some Ideas have been changed after hearing sound arguments as well as some have been altered according to my 'own' sound argument.
I did not cheat and change my ideas based on new information! I crossed out all the things that I predicted that have proven to be wrong. As well as added new ideas for the future.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Opinions, Ideas and Suggestions as always are appreciated. As things unfold and I'm proven right or wrong I'll cross out or highlight the sections that were correct. Thanks for taking the time to read my posts! ;)

The Straw Hats:
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'

Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking if nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye. We will learn more about Zoro's 'killing intent'. If it is the same thing as haki or not. Killing intent in most shows I've seen it used in its the same thing as COQ Haki.

Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.
Sanji the reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying.

- The Weaker SHs:
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. (This will probably happen in the first Major Arc of the New World.) I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically. Bombs as well as all his usually repertoire.

Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF.

Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I believe that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink

Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)

Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. Most likely COO. She has always been the 'brains' type. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.

Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.

- New SH Crew Member: A lot of people think Hancock, Jimbei or Perona will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.

Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.

Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.

Perona: I would definitely rather see Boa join than her and with Moria's disappearing act I would say she will most likely go back to her Captain. In the Thrillerbark Arc she seemed to have great knowledge of 'Bounties' as in who people are and what their bounty is and what their reputation is. That's pretty much what Robin does... Her other skill is limited-medical knowledge. That's Choppers job. I just don't see the crew needing her.

(New!)Positions to be filled:
Helmsman: TBD
Chronicler: TBD
Cabin Boy/Girl: TBD

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-Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou. (New!)
People are right. Blackbeard isn't the Yonkou type. He is after One Piece not to mention he doesn't seem to care for people outside of his crew. I Really can't see him stopping to collect territory and I definitely don't see him coming back to defend it. He will probably spend these 2 years mastering his new DF abilities. Hopefully he will have acquired a ship. I'm pretty sure we are also going to learn how he knows so much about the government (for example why Jewelery Bonney was so important to them and what he was trying to trade her for.)

-Supernovas: XDrake/Kid/Basil/Law/ & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well. There will definitely be new supernovas. I think the SH are going to run into some 'cocky' supernovas on SA who try to bother them but get stomped. But someone pointed out something that should have been obvious to me. Oda wouldn't have introduced all the Supernovas if he was just going to kill most of them off. However I have a feeling that the Supernovas growth will not be as great as the SH. Except for maybe Kid & Law.

-Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.

-Admirals: Aokiji New Fleet Admiral. First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.

-Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble. Wrong...

-Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'

-Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.

- Moria: starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
Moria will most likely appear during SH vs Doflamingo hopefully more powerful than before.

-Doflamingo: vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)

- Three New Shichibukai: - Besides Buggy. One Supernova (Your guess is as good as mine.) & Marco. (Although people will protest saying that Marco will not work for the WG who killed his 'Father & Brother'. But I think for someone like Marco he will do whatever it takes to protect WBs family and his territories. And I don't think he will have the power to ascend to Yonkou level.

- Smoker: -> Vice-Admiral.

- Coby: -> Major or Captain. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself.

- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.

- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.

- CP9: I foresee the 'Pacifista' being used by the elders against town or individual that helped SH in the past. Possibly Water 7. I'm thinking CP9 will choose then to make an 'appearance'. They also have a bone to pick with the 'World Government'. If Rob Lucci's personality has changed after being defeated by Luffy there is also the possibility of CP9 getting recruited by the RA. (Side characters though. I don't see CP9 as on par with SH.)

- Enel: This dude is a beast. Sure he did get beat by Luffy but he is the only one who wouldn't be effected by his 'Lightning.' This dude would cause some real bad-ass trouble if he came down from the moon. He has COO haki, he is is a Logia pretty much he is a beast. The only person I see beating him are possibly Smoker or Kizaru.

- Luffy's Mother: The fact that we know nothing about her and that she was never mentioned makes me thinks she is still alive. I have a feeling she is going to play a major role in future arcs. I believe she is going to also have 'The will of D'. She is going to be bad ass.

Enel: Is going to become a pirate.

DF Users:
Logias:
We will see the Water/Wind/Storm & Earth Logia's. (Dragon = Storm (Paramecia).)
Mist Mist Fruit (New)
A New Flame Logia has been born since Ace's death 2 years ago. (Oda specifically states that there can be more than one of the same DF just not at the same time.)
Zoan:
These will be seen.
Mythical Zoan Dragon/Griffin/Behemoth/Sphinx & Leviathan.
Model Zoan Tiger/Lion and a couple flying type Zoan users.
Paramecia:
Wall Wall Fruit. (New)
Storm Fruit (Dragon.) (New)
- Garp & Others: Will learn pieces of the 'true' history and be hunted by the Government.

- Ancient Race: There will be an entire arc invested in this. The SH will find and win the trust of an ancient race that has managed to stay 'secret' from the WG. These people will have key information into the 'lost history' and the true identity of the WG. These people who have managed to stay hidden for so long will probably be found by a branch of the marines. The SH will feel obligated to protect them. During this Arc the SH will have one of their 'major' power ups like Enies Lobby or Arabasta. I predict a face off with Akainu during this time. This arc will most likely happen just before the Revolutionary Army Arc.

- Hostages of the WG: I believe we will learn that Vegapunk/Jewelery Bonney and others are hostages of the WG. Forced to work/research and serve them. I believe the WG offers to recruit almost all 'talented' people they find. However 'asking' is only a nicety they preform. I believe we will find several people who were forced to make weapons/research & more that does harm to others.

- Secrets of the World Government: The current WG is the winning side of the war that took place during the 'Blank Age'. The Tenryubitto are the 'Loyal' or Descendants of the Original Commanders/Leaders. Ohara's obliteration wasn't for fear of them unleashing the weapon but fear that they would learn to much about the past. The fact that the WG didn't attempt to pump them for information indicates that their is something so devastating in the WGs past that it wasn't worth the risk even if they managed to find the ancient weapons. The WG was formed to find the hidden weapons. The Marines were formed to stop people from getting in their way. The reason that they protect 'so called' Justice is because if they didn't protect the people they would have to deal with rebellions/opposing world powers and so on and so forth. They gain the support of the people and in secret can do whatever they please. Not to mention under the banner of 'Justice' there is an unlimited supply of able bodied recruits. The toleration of the Tenryubitto as the creators of the world is simply a 'myth'. The 'Will of D' revolves around the 'original' person to discover the sins of the WG and the one who first uncovered all the 'Lost/Blank History'. I believe he was originally a member of the WG. Vegapunk has already created a 'new weapon' that the WG is keeping in reserve.


Edits: (New Ideas!)
- We will see a New Vice-Admiral. Someone who is cocky that they can end the Strawhat Threat once in for all. He will be newly promoted. Possibly a year or so in his new position.
- Fishman Island: They will find Fishman Island in disarray and Jimbei injured. Since the Fishman Island lost White Beards protection the Fishman have been at war with the outside world as well as at war with itself. The radicals who thought it was pathetic to hide behind a 'human' in the first place vs the more conservatives who think they should just try to avoid the worlds attention. Jimbei will have been deposed as the Sunny Pirates Captain... We will find a son or grandson of Fisher Tiger on Jimbei's side. The radicals/Sunny Pirates will see the Strawhats as the hated 'humans'... Not to mention the Arlong incident... Insert epic battle here...
- We will find an Admiral waiting for them in the 'New World'... Whether or not it is Akainu or someone else I cant say for sure. The SH will escape with Sunny's new upgrades! (Thanks to Franky.)

elitefox
October 04, 2010, 03:15 AM
nominating a super giant fishman for the SH crew

kidopitz27
October 04, 2010, 07:00 AM
nominating a super giant fishman for the SH crew

=Jimbie ^.^

a super giant fish-man would be good but bad for sunny go maybe if that super giant fish-man will swim beside sunny go :)

Schabrak
October 04, 2010, 07:14 AM
With Franky having gone massive, I see less and less chances of anyone with gigantism join the crew. Three big characters in a row [Franky, Brook, "..."] would look weird.

I'm rather interested in the body structure. I'm happy that it won't be a spindle-legged one with a gigantic upper body, as Franky seems to have taken that position now.

Santoryu
October 04, 2010, 08:40 AM
Updated Ideas. New Ideas will be below the 'Edits' Line. And throughout some Ideas have been changed after hearing sound arguments as well as some have been altered according to my 'own' sound argument.
I did not cheat and change my ideas based on new information! I crossed out all the things that I predicted that have proven to be wrong. As well as added new ideas for the future.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Opinions, Ideas and Suggestions as always are appreciated. As things unfold and I'm proven right or wrong I'll cross out or highlight the sections that were correct. Thanks for taking the time to read my posts! ;)

The Straw Hats:
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Edits: (New Ideas!)
- We will see a New Vice-Admiral. Someone who is cocky that they can end the Strawhat Threat once in for all. He will be newly promoted. Possibly a year or so in his new position.
- Fishman Island: They will find Fishman Island in disarray and Jimbei injured. Since the Fishman Island lost White Beards protection the Fishman have been at war with the outside world as well as at war with itself. The radicals who thought it was pathetic to hide behind a 'human' in the first place vs the more conservatives who think they should just try to avoid the worlds attention. Jimbei will have been deposed as the Sunny Pirates Captain... We will find a son or grandson of Fisher Tiger on Jimbei's side. The radicals/Sunny Pirates will see the Strawhats as the hated 'humans'... Not to mention the Arlong incident... Insert epic battle here...
- We will find an Admiral waiting for them in the 'New World'... Whether or not it is Akainu or someone else I cant say for sure. The SH will escape with Sunny's new upgrades! (Thanks to Franky.)



I Like a lot of what you said, interesting ideas. One part though about the Strawhats being hated I do not foresee. Luffy aided in the release of Jinbei and also saved keimi and attacked the Tenryuubito. If I remember right while traveling from impel down towards marine forge Jinbei made a note of how he owed Luffy twice, once for the breakout and once for Arlong. I'm trying to remember if this was in the manga or the anime only. I do like the idea of Fisher Tiger's son being the one to join the crew a lot. Very nice idea there.

Josl
October 04, 2010, 09:22 AM
Will there be shounen jump on October 11 because on that day it's "holiday" in japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_Sports_Day

They will release the Jump on October 9 instead of October 11 because of the holiday

BlackSword
October 04, 2010, 11:53 AM
I Like a lot of what you said, interesting ideas. One part though about the Strawhats being hated I do not foresee. Luffy aided in the release of Jinbei and also saved keimi and attacked the Tenryuubito. If I remember right while traveling from impel down towards marine forge Jinbei made a note of how he owed Luffy twice, once for the breakout and once for Arlong. I'm trying to remember if this was in the manga or the anime only. I do like the idea of Fisher Tiger's son being the one to join the crew a lot. Very nice idea there.
In the manga he seemed less that pleased about the whole Arlong thing..
c549 p07 http://www.ourmanga.com/One_Piece/549/07

Mr. Crocodile
October 05, 2010, 02:16 PM
I just had a thought on how the pacifistas are created..remember Episode II?? Well prolly something similar except with an extra twist by Oda.

Santoryu
October 05, 2010, 04:18 PM
In the manga he seemed less that pleased about the whole Arlong thing..
c549 p07 http://www.ourmanga.com/One_Piece/549/07

Yeah I hear ya on that, I know with the but, and saving it for later. Like I stated earlier I didn't know if he was going to ask him about that in a Why did you fight Arlong? to get both sides or a remorseful way. Sometimes I assume the anime gets input in terms of the moods that Oda sets and lengthens them, in this case can go either way. Like I said before still love the Fisher Tigers son thing.

maravish
October 08, 2010, 07:23 PM
In the manga he seemed less that pleased about the whole Arlong thing..
c549 p07 http://www.ourmanga.com/One_Piece/549/07

that was actually a translation error

luffi_2009
October 09, 2010, 04:04 AM
hi guys

what do think will happen to boa hancock

is she gonna die or go with luffy as one of his crew

because she has a fatal disease

Ooblahh
October 09, 2010, 09:20 AM
hi guys

what do think will happen to boa hancock

is she gonna die or go with luffy as one of his crew

because she has a fatal disease

Nah, that's just her love for Luffy. :p

Anti-panda
October 09, 2010, 01:15 PM
hi guys

what do think will happen to boa hancock

is she gonna die or go with luffy as one of his crew

because she has a fatal disease

Love kills ... but only your spirit. ... and only if your a man ..

Nah .. Boa will be fine .. i totally support her and luffy getting married at the end of OP ^_^

N A O
October 10, 2010, 10:33 AM
It's too early now, but there must be disturbances during the past two years at the Fishman Island after WB's death. So I believe that Luffy will do the same thing WB did to it, he'll return the peace and put it under his power and protection. That will be a good new start to the SH and declaration for entering the new world.

elitefox
October 10, 2010, 08:26 PM
hi guys

what do think will happen to boa hancock

is she gonna die or go with luffy as one of his crew

because she has a fatal disease


unless Luffy somewhat proposes or at least Boa misinterpreted
then Boa will make sure she doesn't die :p

Jorge D. Dragon
October 12, 2010, 01:14 AM
It's too early now, but there must be disturbances during the past two years at the Fishman Island after WB's death. So I believe that Luffy will do the same thing WB did to it, he'll return the peace and put it under his power and protection. That will be a good new start to the SH and declaration for entering the new world.

THe problem is that he is not that well known as WB. So plenty of pirates will challenge FI and he won't have time to go back, because his main goal is One Piece.

tothx
October 12, 2010, 10:01 AM
A Mermaid in the crew would make Sanji go mad. I mean, he's been on about Mermaids for hundreds of years and for the next arc it seems like the likelyest of options. If not there will be someone in the new world ;) And a girl! Perhaps a little manly in personality but it will be a girl

Seppuku
October 12, 2010, 11:28 AM
Ohmygod, I was just running through apforums when I noticed a discussion about Sanji's eyebrows. Oh so that's why he hid one side of his face! Zoro especially and the crew are gonna have a good laugh.

Like "ZOMGAR. They curl in the same direction!"

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1073/seyes.jpg

scyter
October 14, 2010, 06:09 PM
Now I know how will fight the Sanjuan Wolf in the end. It's going to be Franky who will merge with sunny and then they will fight Sanjuan Wolf XD

i59
October 17, 2010, 07:08 PM
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100522145051/onepiece/images/0/03/Blackbeard_portrait.png vs Luffy (Captain)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100522144910/onepiece/images/b/b0/Augerportrait.png vs Usopp (Sniper)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100217215936/onepiece/images/9/92/San_Juan_Wolf_portrait.jpg vs Chooper (Huge, remember monster point?)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100731220803/onepiece/images/thumb/b/bc/Shiryuu.jpg/120px-Shiryuu.jpg vs Zoro (Swordsman)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100918071203/onepiece/images/c/c5/Catarina_portrait.jpg vs Nami (Woman)

Not sure on the others.

tonyohoho
October 17, 2010, 10:19 PM
about strawhats vs blackbeards I'm thinking about it too. :D

in my blog, sorry it was in Indonesian Language (U can just use google translator then)
http://tonyohoho.blogspot.com/2010/05/strawhats-vs-blackbeards-yang-mana.html

Here's the match up I think

Battle of the D
Monkey D Luffy vs Marshall D teach

battle of swordsman
Roronoa Zoro vs Shiryuu

Battle of bare Hand
Sanji vs Jesus Burgess

Battle of Sniper
Usopp vs Van Auger

Battle of the Sky
Nami vs Lafitte

Battle of evil Woman
Nico Robin vs Catarina Devon

Battle of Animal
Tony Tony CHopper vs Stronger (Honestly, I'm still thinking stronger isnt an ordinary pet)

Battle of the Death
Brook vs Doc Q
(A fight between a man that coming back from death vs someone called God of Death. LOL)

Battle of the water
The 9th Strawhats (I think a merman or merfolk) vs Vasco SHot

Battle of Fairy tale
The 10th Strawhats (I think it's a witch in New World) VS San Juan Wolf (Giant)

Ups I forgot about franky XD

Battle of Mechanical Weapons
Franky vs Aballo Pizzaro :D

Bobbina
October 17, 2010, 11:29 PM
"-Admirals: Aokiji New Fleet Admiral. First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc." Firstly, i dont think Aokiji is fleet admiral. Sengoku NOMINATES him, not promotes him. For plot reasons, I think Akainu will be fleet admiral, as he killed Ace, is probably the strongest. (in the war he owned everyone with magma, and is Ace times 3 basically) Secondly, I think Akainu would be the last Admiral to go down. because of previous reasons.
"Love kills ... but only your spirit. ... and only if your a man ..

Nah .. Boa will be fine .. i totally support her and luffy getting married at the end of OP ^_^"
Oda said that there would be no romance. There is one-sided love, but i dont think its gonna happen, as much as i may hope
[hr]
Wow, again, my post disappeared after i posted it, then waited awhile Hmmmmm.... Did MH block my posts? Did i post something wrong? Swear words? i remember saying "fat@$$" but ive seen others swear before.

LeKuaSimi
October 18, 2010, 09:09 AM
about strawhats vs blackbeards I'm thinking about it too. :D

in my blog, sorry it was in Indonesian Language (U can just use google translator then)
http://tonyohoho.blogspot.com/2010/05/strawhats-vs-blackbeards-yang-mana.html

Here's the match up I think

Battle of the D
Monkey D Luffy vs Marshall D teach

battle of swordsman
Roronoa Zoro vs Shiryuu

Battle of bare Hand
Sanji vs Jesus Burgess

Battle of Sniper
Usopp vs Van Auger

Battle of the Sky
Nami vs Lafitte

Battle of evil Woman
Nico Robin vs Catarina Devon

Battle of Animal
Tony Tony CHopper vs Stronger (Honestly, I'm still thinking stronger isnt an ordinary pet)

Battle of the Death
Brook vs Doc Q
(A fight between a man that coming back from death vs someone called God of Death. LOL)

Battle of the water
The 9th Strawhats (I think a merman or merfolk) vs Vasco SHot

Battle of Fairy tale
The 10th Strawhats (I think it's a witch in New World) VS San Juan Wolf (Giant)


Battle of the slackers
Franky (lying on a sofa shaking his leg) vs ???

tonyohoho
October 19, 2010, 03:17 AM
No, I forgot about Franky.. :D

Battle of Mechanical Weapon
Franky vs Aballo Pizzaro

Andonan
October 21, 2010, 06:21 PM
I've always been of the opinion that for whatever reason BB can hold 2 DFs is also in some way stops him from being able to use haki. BB clearly knows what haki is and I have always (from early on, since the Ace fight) why he never used it. It was confirmed he not only knew it but could sense it within Luffy when they met in ID. So my tehory was the reason he especially wanted the yami fruit was because it was effectively a fruit that enabled you to use haki without possessing it..... and also an added benefit allowed (my personel theory) extract another fruit (ie the quake fruit) and make use of his natural ability of being able to use two......

This (for a long time) has been my theory of Bb and what he calls his (MASTER PLAN). I also kinda get the feeling WB knew this about BB (ie his inability to use haki) and that also could potentially shed some light on why WB knew that BB wasn't going to be PK, because clearly the PK needs the kings disposition!

What do you guys think?
This theory answers many ppls old complaints of haki making BB fruit obsolete
It also answers why a pirate as strong as BB has never used haki
as well as shed some light on BB "master plan"

Bobbina
October 21, 2010, 08:05 PM
If BB can't use haki, later on, then hes screwed. That was why he ran away from Akainu, cuz he couldnt use haki. If he never could, then he wouldnt even make it close to Raftel. and the Yami Yami no mi isn't the same as haki. True, u negate the enemies powers, but u cant use CoO, and u dont strengthen ur abilites, plus u cant attach it to weapons and all. Unless BB is touching the person, BB cant harm Logias and stuff, unless he learns Haki. All logias and such would instantly eliminate BB, which shouldn't happen

elitefox
October 22, 2010, 02:51 AM
If BB can't use haki, later on, then hes screwed. That was why he ran away from Akainu, cuz he couldnt use haki. If he never could, then he wouldnt even make it close to Raftel. and the Yami Yami no mi isn't the same as haki. True, u negate the enemies powers, but u cant use CoO, and u dont strengthen ur abilites, plus u cant attach it to weapons and all. Unless BB is touching the person, BB cant harm Logias and stuff, unless he learns Haki. All logias and such would instantly eliminate BB, which shouldn't happen

he can just make a big black hole to suck everything :D

I wonder if magma boy can run :D

but he kinda slowpoke but strong defense

Andonan
October 23, 2010, 08:20 PM
If BB can't use haki, later on, then hes screwed. That was why he ran away from Akainu, cuz he couldnt use haki. If he never could, then he wouldnt even make it close to Raftel. and the Yami Yami no mi isn't the same as haki. True, u negate the enemies powers, but u cant use CoO, and u dont strengthen ur abilites, plus u cant attach it to weapons and all. Unless BB is touching the person, BB cant harm Logias and stuff, unless he learns Haki. All logias and such would instantly eliminate BB, which shouldn't happen

I hear what you're saying mate, but this guys was on WB's crew FOR 20 YEARS and sailing around NW FOR 20 YEARS, that AGES< the man MUST have haki, yet shows NO SIGN of using it, not against Ace, not in the war. And yes no haki does = massive handicap THAT is my point.

BB has the most powerful defensive and destructive DF powers
LUFFY has the most durable DF and great haki

That to me is kinda how the final fight gets balanced.
If BB has Haki (not to mention king's disposition) AND 2 DF's of that caliber i think it'll be almost unrealistic if Luffy CAN beat him....... I mean it's like mathematically impossible!!

Shadoguardian
October 26, 2010, 01:44 AM
Alright! We're, more-or-less, halfway around the One Piece world (and possibly the story)! So now what's going to happen to the Strawhats? What kind of adventures will they undertake? It is nearly impossible to imagine we know what Oda is thinking, but it'll be fun to guess, right?

Personally, I think the adventures they might undertake after leaving Fishman Island (besides searching for One Piece) are:
-Strawhats vs. Vegapunk (may take place on Fishman Island itself);
-Strawhats vs. old Supernovas;
-Strawhats vs. Kaidou pirates;
-Strawhats in Elbaf (Giant country);
-Strawhats in the Wano country;
-Strawhats and the Revolutionaries;
-Search for the Devil Fruit tree;
-Strawhats vs. Red-Haired pirates;
-Strawhats vs. Blackbeard Pirates;
-Strawhats vs. the World Government.

Jorge D. Dragon
October 26, 2010, 02:07 AM
That to me is kinda how the final fight gets balanced.
If BB has Haki (not to mention king's disposition) AND 2 DF's of that caliber i think it'll be almost unrealistic if Luffy CAN beat him....... I mean it's like mathematically impossible!!It can be that Luffy won't be affected by Gura Gura no mi, cause he is rubber.;) And he can deffend now from Yami Yami no mi by using CoA Haki. By this I can't see how BB can win against Luffy without Haki. And there is a possibility that he doesn't know it. Because if he knew it he would have used it against Ace and wouldn't have run from Akainu. Even if he travelled 20 years with WB it doesn't nessesary influence his Haki. As it was stated by Rayleigh:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56928-11/one-piece/chapter-597.html
"majority of humans go without noticing this power or perhaps finish their lifes failling to ever pull it out, even if they try".:)
So we can judje that he hasn't got any Haki for now and I'd say he won't pull it out.;)

c0nflikt
October 26, 2010, 02:11 AM
BB is not the final enemy, He's minor.

scav
October 26, 2010, 03:41 AM
BB is not the final enemy, He's minor.
agreed, everyone is convinced that BB will be the last, but i think its too predictable and oda isn't a predictable guy. i still believe we will have a big surprise in the end,after the battle against BB,i think we will have the secret of the one piece, a things that roger couldn't do and what luffy will do(roger is waiting for someone, maybe the one piece is a test).something behind the blank century, a last opponement :eyeroll

Jorge D. Dragon
October 26, 2010, 07:21 AM
The last opponent should be World Government. So after finding One Piece Luffy may turn against them ganging with Revolutionary Army to beat crap out of Gorosei and Tenryubito.:)

ngsertar
October 26, 2010, 12:12 PM
I hear what you're saying mate, but this guys was on WB's crew FOR 20 YEARS and sailing around NW FOR 20 YEARS, that AGES< the man MUST have haki, yet shows NO SIGN of using it, not against Ace, not in the war. And yes no haki does = massive handicap THAT is my point.

BB has the most powerful defensive and destructive DF powers
LUFFY has the most durable DF and great haki

That to me is kinda how the final fight gets balanced.
If BB has Haki (not to mention king's disposition) AND 2 DF's of that caliber i think it'll be almost unrealistic if Luffy CAN beat him....... I mean it's like mathematically impossible!!

Interesting reading indeed. With speculating, i see a possibility boath possesing haki, cause luffy seems to use haki more, hence he could have improved or perfected it more. As u mentioned, calibres of haki.
There is a point about haki which itches me. 1 description about it - " is the lifeforce or energy or will or ambition ". So if Luffys ambition is bigger and better as BBs(which it is) maybe thats the reason which could explain the stuff mentioned before. Like WB only died after feeling he has "done enought" - i think his ambition gave him the endurance and let him stand while dying....
Thats just how i see it and for sure there is much more to it...

Bobbina
October 26, 2010, 06:02 PM
I agree to all of those except SH vs. Red-hair pirates. Unless Shank's betray's Luffy or its just a play game, The SHs won't battle them. I don't think the devil fruit tree though. I'd love to see that, but there was this filler episode where DFs came out of the ground of the sea. So if they meet the DF tree, then the anime can't show that or they would be contradicting themselves. Oh and apparently the Time-Skip is the halfway point of the story itself.
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Well yeah Andonan, but if BB had had haki then he must have been one of the prominent crewmates yet his bounty still was 0. Plus he was saying "Oh, I ain't got no such ambition." when Ace asked BB if BB was ok with being captain. Obviously he was lying, but if he was learning haki he wouldve given himself away. The whole point of being with WB is hiding under a great shadow while sailing to find the Yami Yami no mi. He wouldn't need Haki. Plus only the CHOSEN ones have King's Dispo. and I don't think BB has it or will.

And Ngsertar, yeah that is probably it, the ambition of WB and stuff about that.

elitefox
October 26, 2010, 08:03 PM
I agree to all of those except SH vs. Red-hair pirates. Unless Shank's betray's Luffy or its just a play game, The SHs won't battle them. I don't think the devil fruit tree though. I'd love to see that, but there was this filler episode where DFs came out of the ground of the sea. So if they meet the DF tree, then the anime can't show that or they would be contradicting themselves. Oh and apparently the Time-Skip is the halfway point of the story itself.
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Well yeah Andonan, but if BB had had haki then he must have been one of the prominent crewmates yet his bounty still was 0. Plus he was saying "Oh, I ain't got no such ambition." when Ace asked BB if BB was ok with being captain. Obviously he was lying, but if he was learning haki he wouldve given himself away. The whole point of being with WB is hiding under a great shadow while sailing to find the Yami Yami no mi. He wouldn't need Haki. Plus only the CHOSEN ones have King's Dispo. and I don't think BB has it or will.

And Ngsertar, yeah that is probably it, the ambition of WB and stuff about that.


A friendly war isn't bad like WB and shanks do :darn


BB might have a strong COA that is why he can't be harmed much :darn

Bobbina
October 27, 2010, 05:57 PM
Well yeah, a friendly war, but I mean as in an actual all-out brawl. That's what i thought he was saying.

What does that mean? O.o Does that have anything to do with what I said?

Jorge D. Dragon
October 30, 2010, 01:44 PM
elitefox

BB might have a strong COA that is why he can't be harmed much
No way.:) If he had CoA haki he would have used it already against Ace, during the war at Marinford and also wouldn't have run from Akainu.:) I think he is just too fat, so he is rather durable. And also Marco mentioned about him having some weird body, so maybe it is connected. And also you shold take in consideration that he isn't rookie. He was on WB ship for a long time, so at least he should be durable.:)

Rody naruto
November 01, 2010, 07:08 AM
I wonder if one day we'll Zoro fight Luffy.Remember when he agreed to join Luffy's crew,he told him about is ambition to be the number one swordsman in the world.He also told him that if he ever stand on his way he'll kill him.So that definetly mean he wants to fight most of the strongest swordsmen.Now i wonder if that means that he will fight Shanks as well.Because if thats the case then it means Luffy will surely stand on is way dont you think?I hope that will happen 'cause i always wanted to see i serious fight to death betwen those two.

Geez
November 01, 2010, 11:54 AM
For those who wonder whether BB knows haki, in this page (http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/OnePiece544/175720-9.html) he clearly seem to know it.

tothx
November 02, 2010, 10:47 AM
It can be that Luffy won't be affected by Gura Gura no mi, cause he is rubber.;) And he can deffend now from Yami Yami no mi by using CoA Haki. By this I can't see how BB can win against Luffy without Haki. And there is a possibility that he doesn't know it. Because if he knew it he would have used it against Ace and wouldn't have run from Akainu. Even if he travelled 20 years with WB it doesn't nessesary influence his Haki. As it was stated by Rayleigh:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56928-11/one-piece/chapter-597.html
"majority of humans go without noticing this power or perhaps finish their lifes failling to ever pull it out, even if they try".:)
So we can judge that he hasn't got any Haki for now and I'd say he won't pull it out.;)

Blackbeard has the name of D so it's likely he has the disposition to pull out CoC, he allready commented on Luffy's haki having gotten better so it's allso likely he's allready capable of using it. Blackbeard allso has a stated weakness in the fact that his logia makes him feel a lot more pain then other people. Along with a solid body

With his current power he is one of the most terrifying people in one peice, looking at the people in the bar talking about him over the past two years proves this. He might even have taken over for whitebeard by now, atleast he will most definitely be a yonkou.

And the fight between Luffy and him will be one of willpowers colliding. It will decide who the true holder of the Will of D is or whatever that means, Roger anticipated that someone in the next generation would be him.

Bobbina
November 02, 2010, 11:38 PM
I don't think BB actually is a D. Whitebeard said "your not one of them." And I don't think BB is one who carries Roger's will, he seems too ruthless.

I think thats the translator, Geez. Oda probably said ambition or something. On my site it doesn't say that.

Jorge, apparently his darkness absorbs injury. He bleeds and feels pain but unless has his DF canceled, can heal.

Geez
November 03, 2010, 12:55 AM
I think thats the translator, Geez. Oda probably said ambition or something. On my site it doesn't say that.

How can they mistranslate a Japanese word ? :blink
I know on mangastream too, it doesn't mention "haki" but a translation's error like "HAKI -> ambition" has more sense than the opposite.

Jorge D. Dragon
November 03, 2010, 01:12 AM
Geez
If BB knows about Haki it doesn't mean that he can use it.;) Until we see it we can't assume that he can use it.

Bobbina
I think in a terms of taking damage he is like ordinary people, the only difference is that he feels more pain, because of his DF's nature.:)

Rosebullet Teacher
November 03, 2010, 05:08 AM
I want to see how shanks got on Rogers ship, since he was still apprentice level.

Roger went into the Grandline, travelled a bit, came out then re-entered on his Pirate King run = i dont think Shanks or Buggy were with him for the first run cos then Buggy wouldve known who the Straw Hats original owner was. Plus everyone on the Roger ship looks older & more worldweary like theyre amused by Shanks&Buggys innocence compared to them who are having a second go through(once again now, & with feeling!).

Im expecting something Shanks did made Roger want him to see the world so he brought him along & maybe thats why hes never tried to change the world in a big way since thats the world the man he admired created & he has no desire to blemish it

FuS

Bobbina
November 03, 2010, 05:01 PM
Jorge, if it were like that, then he would have died, and his ability wouldn't be logia. Countless times, BB was burned, cut, stabbed, punched, etc, but he was never scarred or never had aftereffects

Geez, What I mean is, maybe Oda said "haki", but the translators took it as the Co Haki, and Oda was saying ambition/spirit. On the site I go to, it calls it spirit. Besides, does it really mater anymore? Within the time skip, he probably learned haki if he didn't already know it, cuz I just can't see BB as that powerful if he gets owned by a logia admiral or something.

Geez
November 03, 2010, 06:41 PM
Well, for quite a long time I have these thoughts about One Piece... some weird coincidences that needed to be cleared. These are only hypothesis and i'm aware that they can be totally wrong :p

First of all, this "Weather Accident" (http://70.38.11.219/chapter/OnePieceStrongWorld0/182481-8.html) is nothing like luck to me. I am pretty sure that someone in Gol D. Roger's crew made this happen. And if that's actually true and Raftel a real island impossible to reach, it would explain how these people are able to go anywhere they want despite the elements. The gift to hear all voices may have turned Gold Roger in a natural log pose, thus capable to guide his ship in the wildest seas.


I have read somewhere that Oda built the name Loguetown from "prologue" and "epilogue". We can assume it's about Roger... A same place, two different times : a start and an end (which created another start :D). What if Oda cooked the same thing for Raftel ?
I always thought that Raftel was a place that contained the ruins of the old kingdom, the one that fell during the void century. Maybe an intact city. And, like Atlantis, which technology was also hyper advanced, the city have been hidden in a precise purpose, becoming a place normally impossible to reach.
Besides, since a few weeks, some people began to speak about Davy Jones because of the data book and it made me think about Pirates of Caribbean (ok it MAY not be the best reference here... lol). In the movie, they went to the end of the world to find Davy Jones' locker and in order to get outta there, they had to flip their boat upside down.

Two ideas crossed my mind :
1- the end of the world in One Piece would be in fact the same place that starts it : Reverse Mountain. This idea reminds a lot the "loguetown thing" Oda thought about.
2- If Raftel is there, it has to be under it and upside down. The gravity issue explains why Reverse Mountain (http://arlongpark.net/Encyclopedia/Atlas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RiverseMountainMap.JPG) is like this. It also implies that Raftel is not on Grand Line, and thus explains the magnetic field problem. :drmke

Edit: Since i posted it, i thought about it and added 2 ideas :

1- For me, the void century is a war that occurred between the fallen kingdom and another one (or a coalition) now represented by Marijoa. That's why, the better place to hide the old Nobles enemies' city is there, at the opposite of the world.

2- Now it may look stupid but in every Pirate story, there is a treasure. To reach this treasure, there is most of the time a treasure map with a beautiful " X" on it. I wondered whether we saw it in One Piece, in any kind of situation and there I found it ! The four canals that "push" water from Reverse Mountain (http://arlongpark.net/Encyclopedia/Atlas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RiverseMountainMap.JPG) form a big giant "X". It might be a coincidence... an artful coincidence :)

Finale
November 11, 2010, 01:49 PM
I predict in chapter 666, which will occur right after or near the wrap up of fishman island, that we will see Magellan again and he has become a vice admiral. Garp said that was as high a rank he needed to do what he wants and that would let him pursue the escaped convicts, in a sense trying to clean up the mess that was made at ID. He will have a rivalry with Smoker since they are both after Luffy.

johnnyb7
November 15, 2010, 11:44 PM
I think that Dragon and Garp are going to have to confront each other at some point considering they're in direct conflict. When Dragon tries to overthrow the government I think this may happen, along with this I think Garp's going to be killed. I know this is dark, but I don't think they're going to have Dragon be a perfectly just character fighting to save the world from the evil government. While the world government is obviously horribly corrupt, overthrowing it will mean he kills thousands and thousands of marines and world government officials to do so. I think Dragon will kill Garp, and when Luffy meets Dragon he'll kick his ass. My own predictions, I could be wrong I know but something between Dragon and Garp has to happen, and I can't imagine him ignoring Dragon or joining him by any means.

fistsofrage
November 15, 2010, 11:48 PM
Since dragon seems to be the strongest guy in the world, it would be awesome if he turned out to be the final villain.

Oro-jackson5
November 16, 2010, 03:52 AM
Since dragon seems to be the strongest guy in the world, it would be awesome if he turned out to be the final villain.

This hasn't been proven yet, but he is the most wanted man in the world..
i kinda doubt hes going to be a villain (i wouldn't want him to be one)
Hes helped luffy in louge town.. and he took Nico Robin under his wing..

When the revolutionarys make their move, i think the straw hats are going to find out about the void century and more about the government.. and this will prob be near the end of the series.. I think the straw hats will find One Piece first and then this will lead up to the final battle between the REVOS and the GOVERNMENT and every notorious pirate willing to join.. White beard war x2......

matzik1212
November 16, 2010, 04:45 AM
This hasn't been proven yet, but he is the most wanted man in the world..
i kinda doubt hes going to be a villain (i wouldn't want him to be one)
Hes helped luffy in louge town.. and he took Nico Robin under his wing..

When the revolutionarys make their move, i think the straw hats are going to find out about the void century and more about the government.. and this will prob be near the end of the series.. I think the straw hats will find One Piece first and then this will lead up to the final battle between the REVOS and the GOVERNMENT and every notorious pirate willing to join.. White beard war x2......

me nither..i totally won't accept if dragon is bad in the end :amuse....speaking of the void century i'm really curious what events could have occurred for the WG to erase it from history...definitely very suspicious;)....i guess this is second on my most awaited things to be reveled:XD....of course first i want to see what one piece is :tem and if the 2 are related to each other (which i think it is)that would be great

LeidenReloaded
November 16, 2010, 05:30 AM
I think the One Piece is the True Story about the "Void Century". Simply every single Information that Roger and his crew gathered while crossing the GrandLine and then hiding it. I guess knowing the truth about that part of the History really fits to be the "greatest Treasure" in the World.

Boomi
November 16, 2010, 01:55 PM
First of all, this "Weather Accident" (http://70.38.11.219/chapter/OnePieceStrongWorld0/182481-8.html) is nothing like luck to me.I am pretty sure that someone in Gol D. Roger's crew made this happen.

I'm not familiar with the common assumptions (1st post in the one piece forum hi all xD) so forgive me if I'm about to tell you somethin everyone knows...but in Loguetown when Dragon saved Luffys ass he changed the weather didn't he? First he Zeuslightninged Buggy etc...

Agewise I think there is no problem with Dragon beeing on Rogers Ship at that time.