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shinsengumi
October 02, 2010, 01:43 PM
i just wonder if this idea has ever crossed somebodyelse's mind too

what if aizen got cought purposely in order to get into SS ? with yammy's ultimately lame defeat , im thinking maybe he also lost purposely to be transported into SS
as ichigo also mentioned , did the hougyoku really reject aizen ?
or did aizen reject it deep in his heart ? ~this is a completely different topic tho ,about aizens personality~
or did he purposely suppress it to fake a defeat ?

do you think he could possibly have a plan which includes infiltrating SS and gaining something important there?
it could be just stretching things or aizen's masterpiece of a battle plan , what do you think ?

*im not assuming that he had any kind of knowledge about FGT at all . maybe he was just going to fake a defeat but it really happened and made it look more believable , practiclly buttered his bread

kkck
October 02, 2010, 02:27 PM
I don't think he consciously planned for the orb to reject him. I do think there might be a bit of truth to what ichigo said though. While fighting ichigo aizen finally found something he had been looking for and that lead for him to finally reject the orb and the power he had acquired from it. Perhaps what he found within himself when fighting ichigo was some humility(not in a bad way though). Aizen was in many respects the ultimate shinigami. He might have lacked the offensive capacity of yamamoto and urahara might have had more intellect than him and tessai might have been better and kido (aizen needed incantations for his 90th level kido) but which shinigami can be said to have mastered each individual aspect of shinigami fighting to the point aizen did? Yamamoto would be a choice were aizen not so immensely smarter than the guy. Urahara could be comparable in kido and superior in intellect however aizen's sheer amount of reiatsu would place him in a different league. Tessai has the best kido however aizen would evidently be superior in terms of rieatsu and intellect. Basically, aizen had it all as a shinigami which is not quite something other shinigami could say. Finding someone who stood higher than him and bested him even after evolving far past the likes of petty shinigami like urahara or yamamoto (in comparison at that point) gave him some inner peace.

shinsengumi
October 03, 2010, 11:24 AM
^ well that was the completely different topic i was referring to . the object to the cause of rejection could be from several reasons but after all of that ; one way or another , do you think by any chance its possible if aizen is not done with his plans yet?

kkck
October 03, 2010, 12:30 PM
Well, if aizen did not plan for the rejection then logically it would be unlikely he actually planned to do such a thing. How could he if the rejection was unaccounted for?

Aizen wouldn't even need help infiltrating SS. Aizen could already teleport and the possibility of shinigami of any caliber opposing him was non existent and most likely altogether physically impossible. Even if whatever he wanted was guarded by a hoard of shinigami of yamamoto's caliber there would be nothing they can do to stop him at that stage due to the inherent superiority thing aizen had going on at the moment. I don't see what aizen could possibly get from infiltrating sereitei (since he was already technically in SS). he had been there for over 100 years before, it would not make much sense. Not to mention he has KS. If he wanted to go to SS and not be noticed, he'd do it and there would be no one who could do a thing about it.

nightshade_nova
October 11, 2010, 09:19 PM
My view on this:

Aizen wished to the Hougyoku that he becomes one with his zanpakuto like Ichigo, hence, people will notice him as powerless, no reiatsu and all.
notice his zanpakuto vanishes, just like Ichigo did when he fused with Zangetsu.

And yeah, this is Aizen's plan, imo.
He's bringing together a band of immortal badass prisoners with him the next time around.

kulash05
October 11, 2010, 09:42 PM
Nah, he was already in the Central 42 once before and had sneaked into SS by being a captain. He was in complete control at the time, and was even handing out orders pretending to be Central 42. Before you say that was before he had the Hougyoku, remember that he doesn't have it now, it rejected him. All the arrancars are dead or MIA, and the two other captains are dead or MIA (different thread to discuses that) and the Hougyoku is gone. There is nothing he could do now, that he couldn't have done the first time around.

Young Aizen
October 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
What if the Hougyoku infact.... absorbed Mugetsu?

kulash05
October 12, 2010, 04:31 PM
What if the Hougyoku infact.... absorbed Mugetsu?

I think it would have absorbed KS, not Mugetsu, but still Aizen doesn't have the hougyoku anymore.

Eprst
October 12, 2010, 05:16 PM
I think tehre will be a new villain! Idea with Aizen trying to sneak to SS with some purpose is strange, he could have killed all captains and then go to SS freely. So i don't see the reason for that.

lordHokage
October 12, 2010, 06:07 PM
Since Aizen has played a vital role in developing Ichigo's Shinigami powers. Now Ichigo has no Shinigami powers and Aizen is locked up in Soul Society finest prison without Hougyoku powers. I think Aizen knew about Final Getsuga Tensho from Ichigo's dad and the risk involved. :tem

Young Aizen
October 12, 2010, 11:24 PM
I think it would have absorbed KS, not Mugetsu, but still Aizen doesn't have the hougyoku anymore.

He does still have the hougyoku... how else do think he's immortal? or did you misread the past 2 chapters?

kkck
October 13, 2010, 06:23 PM
Even if aizen does not currently have the orb with him, I don't think it would affect his immortality. When aizen was hurt by ichigo he used the orb to heal him. He made a point to the fact that what he did was not regeneration of any form. In turn later on we saw him using a form of high speed regeneration. Basically, something different from what he did before. The most important thing aizen gained from his several transformations was increased power and inherently superior reiatsu. Even if that was taken away, it is very likely he could have kept his seemingly ultimate HSR which would explain his current immortality.

kulash05
October 13, 2010, 09:46 PM
He does still have the hougyoku... how else do think he's immortal? or did you misread the past 2 chapters?

I didn't think the immortal thing was because of the hougyoku, and not even truly immortal. I though it was just remnants of the powers given to him by the hougyoku. The hougyoku might have left him, but the powers it gave were left behind.

I think that there are three things that will happen with Aizen:
We never see him again and go onto new bad guys.
The new bad guys break him out and use him as like an ally (This would be kind of stupid, because he won't be the same powerful Aizen, or he'll betray the new bad guy and then it's the same old plot)
Or the good guys let him out to fight the bad guy and he gets killed, thus setting up the new bad guy as super powerful.