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Akainu
October 06, 2010, 02:35 PM
If you haven't seen the goodies yet, you can check them out in the Spoiler Pics and Summaries thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64653) This is where you can discuss all about them. But remember no spamming.

Please remember: NO SPOILERS OUTSIDE THE SPOILER THREADS (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/announcement.php?f=922&a=76). This rule will be strictly enforced. Please respect those that don't want to be spoiled.

Vanm
October 12, 2010, 03:53 PM
Franky's hair is back HAHA

monkey D luffy
October 12, 2010, 03:54 PM
also small hand and luffy with a mustache ftw!

sarutobi_sensei
October 12, 2010, 03:55 PM
Haha so Franky still has his super hair!

And he's got smaller hands inside the big ones so that he can work better. Nice :D

Lol @ Luffy in disguise xD He probably mistook them for the real ones and he's like: zomg you look strange after 2 years. I wonder how they'll react after they learn that he is the real one xD

Can't wait to have Zoro and Sanji beat the hell out of the fakes

vagabond87
October 12, 2010, 03:55 PM
So now people will stop whining about Franky- his hairstyle is back:amuse
And he have smaller hands for precise work:darn
After looking at pictures I want more... Now:darn

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 03:55 PM
I'm so happy Franky got his hair back. YAY!!!!

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 03:59 PM
LOL! @ Franky! YES! That suppppeeerrr hairstyle has returned!!! :D

Look at the size of the hair comb compared to those robotic arms! haha!

JC123
October 12, 2010, 04:00 PM
Something tells me that Oda got bitched out because he messed with Franky's hair. That's why he put it back pronto.

Duzy
October 12, 2010, 04:00 PM
The spoiler popped up in the middle of me preparing my bed. Lucky :amuse.

It feels like that hair thing is like Oda's another joke the sorts of Zoro's wrong eye (being a reference to Sanji's "wrong" eye shown) targeted at fans who wouldn't accept Franky's new looks.

Messiah
October 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
so that makes chopper, franky, ussop, nami(probably) and robin on the ship
still hoping for the reunion...I wonder how chopper ended up on sunny?

munafn
October 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
haha was just about the say the same thing. Thank god Oda managed to fix franky (somewhat)

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
So I'm guessing in order to change Franky's hair style, you have to pick his nose. :)

zerocooldx
October 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
I love Choppers reactions to these sort of of things. Although had Luffy been there with Chopper and Usopp there would have been an awesome group reaction to Franky.

JetPistol
October 12, 2010, 04:02 PM
LOL i love luffy! it looks like he pulled a chopper too and thinks those are the real zoro and sanjis, so the gullable trio lives on ( usopp, chopper, luffy)

OdaForPresident
October 12, 2010, 04:02 PM
Something tells me that Oda got bitched out because he messed with Franky's hair. That's why he put it back pronto.

I wouldn't be very surprised if Oda got some negative feedback on Franky's appearance. But still, Oda doesn't seem like the type of guy who would compromise because of some negative feedback.

Still, I'm happy to see that Franky hasn't really changed (character wise). Though he does get more freaky every panel we see him in.

monkey D luffy
October 12, 2010, 04:04 PM
2 of the pics wont load for me and i can only see a text bubble with the number 3 in it can someone post this pic somewhere else?

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:05 PM
Luffy's reaction to fake Zoro/Sanji is the same as Chopper's ("Oh, you guys really changed over the past couple years! Good to see you're getting along better.")

And the two fakes are saying "Is this bearded bast[ard] part of the actual crew after all?, an acquaintance of theirs? Are they thinking of taking Luffy to meet their boss?"

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 04:08 PM
Luffy the BAKA! LOL! Tagging along with the fake Zoro & Sanji! That mustache looks so wrong. :XD

More spoilers pwease! :wtf

Gourmamonster
October 12, 2010, 04:09 PM
For those who doubted Oda about Franky's hair - Shame on you! Bad! Bad!

I am sure that Oda had this chapter drawn before the previous came out, so negative comments wouldn't matter. (I read somewhere that he is always a chapter or two ahead). I could be wrong but after all these years I have learned to trust Oda.

lan2cp
October 12, 2010, 04:10 PM
LMAO at mustache Luffy! I swear, Oda is a genious!! :D

Duzy
October 12, 2010, 04:10 PM
Luffy the BAKA! LOL! Tagging along with the fake Zoro & Sanji! That mustache looks so wrong. :XD

More spoilers pwease! :wtf

On the other hand, Luffy shall never resemble the pirate king more than in this panel :blink.


why so much franky hate? yeah, his design is a bit on the ridiculous side, but dont you think franky is a little ridiculous? he has his own dance and theme song for christ sake. seems like majority of people are here to either pick apart peoples comments to prove that they are idiots or bitch about every small details and give examples on how they could make this story much better.

(the guy underneath)
and where's that coming from? Woke up on the wrong side ? Or did you just stumble on this forum by accident? Cause your description of what's happening here has nothing to do with reality.

kaika101
October 12, 2010, 04:12 PM
why so much franky hate? yeah, his design is a bit on the ridiculous side, but dont you think franky is a little ridiculous? he has his own dance and theme song for christ sake. seems like majority of people are here to either pick apart peoples comments to prove that they are idiots or bitch about every small details and give examples on how they could make this story much better.

matzik1212
October 12, 2010, 04:15 PM
it would have been to good to be true if luffy didn't mistake those fake zoro and sanji :(
man i'm really pissed with this situation ..what the hell how can he still be so easy to deceive T_T...i guess his baka side will always be there lol :) and i love that but please not in this situation *sigh...*
i love franky's new hair lmao

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:17 PM
it would have been to good to be true if luffy didn't mistake those fake zoro and sanji :(
man i'm really pissed with this situation ..what the hell how can he still be so easy to deceive T_T...i guess his baka side will always be there lol :) and i love that but please not in this situation *sigh...*
i love franky's new hair lmao

I totally agree with you, you would think that out of all people Luffy would recognize his Nakamas face ~sigh~

Captain golddigger
October 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
Chapter 598- ( luffy on island with hancock and others) damn luffy don't look much different but i bet he's alot stonger and SMARTER! and is he taller?
Chapter 599 - (luffy using haki against fake straw hats) Awesome luffy is a beast and he seems more mature, he definitely seems like a leader now.
chapter 600- (luffy hanging with fakes) annnnnd he's back! lmao (Extra points for the mustache)

Freid
October 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
This is what the power of sleep does for you. Slept, woke up and bam there were spoilers. :amuse. Whoever said Luffy was not as stupid as chopper :amuse

chess4
October 12, 2010, 04:22 PM
last spoiler pic on the far left looks like don krieg's side burns

zelllogan
October 12, 2010, 04:22 PM
rofl, I was disappointed by Chopper but to do the same joke with Luffy ... I'm now disappointed by Oda ...

At least, Franky is SUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR

Gourmamonster
October 12, 2010, 04:23 PM
it would have been to good to be true if luffy didn't mistake those fake zoro and sanji :(
man i'm really pissed with this situation ..what the hell how can he still be so easy to deceive T_T...i guess his baka side will always be there lol :) and i love that but please not in this situation *sigh...*
i love franky's new hair lmao

Gullibility has always been part of Luffy's, Chopper's & Usopp's personality. I guess some people can expect to have them mature after 2 yrs, but it is always what made them - them and fun.

Mr. Crocodile
October 12, 2010, 04:26 PM
That guy with the black hat at the end looks really familiar..anyone remember where we've seen him before?

Niirouge
October 12, 2010, 04:27 PM
A quick translation for those who want it until the real script comes :)

(I'm going by the order of the pictures shown in the spoiler thread)

Usopp: Your nose?
Franky: You gotta hold it for three seconds
Franky's nose (lol): Please hold for over 3 seconds
Usopp: You nose said it back like a robot!

---

(Hair scene)

---

Chopper: Press the nose again! Press it~
Franky's nose: Please hold for over 3 seconds (cut off but evident)
Usopp: It came out!! It's huge!!
Chopper: Your hair comes out just like that?! (lit. freely/at will)
Franky: Yeah!
[cut off bubble; assuming it's Nami]
Franky: Ou! Is that you Nami?

---

Luffy: Two years passed and you guys sure have changed... Haven't you guys become awfully silent...?
Fake Sanji: I thought so... This bearded guy must know the real Strawhat pirates... Who is he?
Fake Zoro: I don't know but it's better not to say anything...
Luffy: And you guys sure have gotten close over the two years...
Well, it is two years and your faces have also changed...
Are you guys also in disguise?
Fake Zoro: We've arrived. If we bring him to the captain, it'll be over for him.
(?): Captain!!
Fake Luffy(?): Call me "Leader" you idiots!!
(?): So you didn't find that real pet (of the strawhats)...
[the next speech bubble is cut off...]
(?): Your... (something they were looking for)... him (this guy)...

... my apologies at not being able to figure it out...

---

Usopp: But Franky, are you sure you can do accurate/precise work (carpenter...ing?) with those huge hands of yours?
Franky: What are you talking about?
[hands open up to smaller ones, lol]


And that's the basic gist of it :)

Hope that helps for now!

Ledoke
October 12, 2010, 04:27 PM
Franky's so awesome that people do back flips when they see him up close ;D

...so I guess this week we will see a SUPAAA!!! amount of post saying that Oda got scared and changed Frankys haircut and a bunch of guys complaining about the hairs coming back? xD

Captain golddigger
October 12, 2010, 04:27 PM
i kinda expected luffy and chopper to be this gullible...lmao ...by the way ...the crowd luffy and the fakes are heading towards...is it the fake luffy's gathering place?

i59
October 12, 2010, 04:27 PM
That guy with the black hat at the end looks really familiar..anyone remember where we've seen him before?

He looks like Gin. And the guy to the left looks like Krieg. :amuse

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:27 PM
That guy with the black hat at the end looks really familiar..anyone remember where we've seen him before?

Looks like it could be Zoros little brother LOL JK :D

Turtle Pirate
October 12, 2010, 04:28 PM
last spoiler pic on the far left looks like don krieg's side burns

that would be awesome

he definitely seems like someone who has the color of the conqueror to me
his will and ambition is pretty great, was even going back to the grand line after getting his butt kicked by mihawk

iloveonepiece
October 12, 2010, 04:29 PM
last pic looks like a don krieg sideburn.
[hr]
oppppps already said hahahaha. and almost in same writing.

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:31 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAH that picture with don Krieg was fake HAHAHHA.

Turtle Pirate
October 12, 2010, 04:32 PM
ohh, sounds like a big fight is being set up

luffy is being taken to fake luffy, at grove 46
which is where the marines are going to attack
and zoro and sanji were at grove 42, if they're still there then they should meet up with the marines who are supposed to go to that grove to launch an attack

this is going to be epic
each chapter just leaves me that much more excited for the next

Razh
October 12, 2010, 04:32 PM
It's not Krieg if it's from Alabasta arc.

Too bad there's no link. It would be a pain to go through entire arc to find those panels,

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 04:33 PM
It's not Krieg if it's from Alabasta arc.

Too bad there's no link. It would be a pain to go through entire arc to find those panels,

I only said Krieg cause it kinda looks like him with the side burns, i can't tell who that who that guy is anyway.

beastboy
October 12, 2010, 04:34 PM
http://opwiki.de/wiki/Kebi Its in Germen tough :<

Love the spoilers, waiting for the script to do any more comments...

Mr. Crocodile
October 12, 2010, 04:35 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAH that picture with don Kreig was fake HAHAHHA.

I knew it..we've seen that guy before as fodder somewhere, i vaguely remember he was also in a SBS.

El-Thor
October 12, 2010, 04:35 PM
hahaha wtf is Luffy doing !!

I'm really excited to see Franky's old hair back ! It looks SUUUUUUUUPERRR

Niirouge
October 12, 2010, 04:37 PM
Personal opinion on the chapter so far:

Glad to have Franky's hair back! Not that it mattered so much to me :)

Looks like everyone's finally meeting up and Luffy's headed to GR46 with FZoro and FSanji, lol. So I'm guessing that the ones who'll be fighting are the monster trio since they're all within the area...

I love how Oda still kept Luffy's naivety *thumbs up* At least Chopper knows who's real now :p

beastboy
October 12, 2010, 04:38 PM
OMFG JUST SAW THE SCRIPT NOW, FRANKY'S NOSE TALKS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111ONEONEONE
How awesome is that???
And lol @ Luffy, but this way he will be with the Fake's when Sentoumaru arrives, only Oda can make this awesome story telling :3!

matzik1212
October 12, 2010, 04:43 PM
LOL...LOL...LOL ...after i read the translation ...che!! how baka can luffy actually be to really think that zoro would become like that. anyway i think we will see some action in this chapter maybe luffy will come to his senses and realize the REAL situation ..hopefully.. cause as we can see in the translation those fake zoro and sanji want to take the real luffy to the fake one :D pls Oda-sama make luffy and chopper a little ..just a little smarter in the future :))

omegakai
October 12, 2010, 04:44 PM
franky reminds me of one of those old toys that you used to put the play doh in and press down to make hair

Captain golddigger
October 12, 2010, 04:45 PM
yes eventually luffy and chopper will get smarter and then we will miss this kind of stupidity....but for now...lets enjoy it lmao

omegakai
October 12, 2010, 04:58 PM
OMFG JUST SAW THE SCRIPT NOW, FRANKY'S NOSE TALKS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111ONEONEONE
How awesome is that???
And lol @ Luffy, but this way he will be with the Fake's when Sentoumaru arrives, only Oda can make this awesome story telling :3!

that is true if he follows the fakes back to where they are headed then he will get involved in the marine raid and @luffyq1 will finally get to see the show down that he wants between luffy sentomaru and PXs :thumbs

luffyq1
October 12, 2010, 05:00 PM
that is true if he follows the fakes back to where they are headed then he will get involved in the marine raid and @luffyq1 will finally get to see the show down that he wants between luffy sentomaru and PXs :thumbs

YAY, please Oda, I'm begging you, please end that fight with one hit just like you did with bellamy :D

jacksprat
October 12, 2010, 05:03 PM
Luffy gets the CoO and can't even tell his friends apart or sense them on the island. This is bullshit.

knoxie
October 12, 2010, 05:05 PM
Rayleigh said that Luffy will have to pick a Colour to specialise in. Seeing as his is CoC then maybe his other Colours are numbed somewhat?

beastboy
October 12, 2010, 05:07 PM
Just imagining Franky merchandise... I guess I'll buy it if I find it!
Better only Vibrator Man WB merchandise (if you get the joke!)

This is being done so nicely, we will be in FI by 610th chapter!

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 05:07 PM
Robotic, speaking nose feature...XD!

I wonder what other kind of emergency warnings/alarm signals Franky has equipped on himself; be it for serious situations or just for the simple lolz. =P

I can't wait to see Brook's reaction when he sees Nami & Robin. :)

Yans86
October 12, 2010, 05:08 PM
Luffy VS Pìrates(the new SN wil try to take him down along all the other people just to get pwned.....getting recruited was a bluff)
Zoro+Sanji vs Marines

I want this epicness blow up in the next 2/3 chapters!!!!

Afro Franky is just SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

One day we r gonna have an Afro combo with Luffy,Franky,Usop and Brook XD

beastboy
October 12, 2010, 05:09 PM
And C'mon, how can people complain about Luffy's Stupidity... don't you remember the jokes with Sogeking/Usopp, it was just ROFL... and in the middle of the funeral he thinking that Usopp should be there T_T....
Luffy is Stupid and that won't change, hopefully! He would lose half of his character!

Charlie
October 12, 2010, 05:09 PM
Classic Luffy reaction to the fake Sanji and Zorro. I guess he never changes..... except he did manage to notice that their faces have changed (So Luffy gets some points there). The old Luffy would probably say something like, they still look the same after two years :XD. Anyway that really put a nice smile on my face.

Frankys hair returning seems a little forced to me. He has button just for that, not that it doesn't look Suuuppppeeerr. So Luffy kept the fake nose - mustache, interesting, thought he wouldn't use it. Cant wait for the scripts.

bittman
October 12, 2010, 05:10 PM
Newer script looks fake. And by looks, I mean it is. Also terribly translated.

And yes, in the wise words of Robin to Franky: "It looks like I won't be able to treat you as a human anymore". At first I was a bit meh on the design, but given the crazy hairdo does still exist, and he's now so crazy Centaur form would look normal in comparison, I'm happy Franky is still like that.

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 05:14 PM
Yes! We got a lil Sanji x Zoro rift at the beginning of the chapter! "Dartboard eyebrow! :XD

Robin crying? :crying The SH's have returned! I'm so excited and I can't wait to read this chapter! ^^

Yans86
October 12, 2010, 05:16 PM
Sorry guys but Franky's hair are not forced!!!U should all remember that Oda draws his chapter at least 3 weeks before pubblication and during the break he rested only one week before getting back to draw and work!!
FRANKY IS SUPER AND THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG!!!
U must all rember that there were hundreds VEGAPUNK projects that alongside Franky fantasy will make him huber Suuuuuuuuuuupppppppppperrrrrr!!!!

Freid
October 12, 2010, 05:16 PM
'Dartboard eyebrow' Lolz. nice. This chapter looks promising. Sanji and Zoro dialogue is as funny as ever. Nice one Oda

Akainu
October 12, 2010, 05:17 PM
would be nice, but if you read the rest of the script you don't see the other stuff anywhere, so it's 99.9% fake

Freid
October 12, 2010, 05:18 PM
would be nice, but if you read the rest of the script you don't see the other stuff anywhere, so it's 99.9% fake

Yh, I read the rest and figured it was fake. Would have been cool.

ikuroi
October 12, 2010, 05:19 PM
Yeah the last one is fake, and the guy who tried to translate it was terrible. -,- i mean like seriously...

I love frankys nose btw, really awesome!

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 05:20 PM
would be nice, but if you read the rest of the script you don't see the other stuff anywhere, so it's 99.9% fake

Which one are you referring to? If it's the "Dartboard eyebrow" one...mmm. Maybe. Doesn't feel right. Another one has just been posted lol. We might as well wait for confirmation. It's a mess right now in the spoiler thread. :s

k-dom
October 12, 2010, 05:22 PM
I wonder how Luffy will react in front of Fake-himself ?!

kkck
October 12, 2010, 05:24 PM
AHHHH THAT WAS SO AWESOME!

Really liked the chapter, it completely makes up for the lack of epicness from before. I did not expect them take out the pacifista and sentoumaru that easily, it is truly overwhelming. I thought all of the strawhats were going to get a chance to show off their skills but it seems that is not the case. Given the ease with which zoro and sanji defeated the pacifista, I would think both of them actually have haki to boost their attacks. I recall a pacifista being strong enough to exhaust every bit of strength the strawhats had before. Right now sanji and zoro are much, much stronger than the entire crew of the strawhats combined(from before the timeskip). Right now the strawhats should easily be as strong as a respectable new world crew.

rickfox
October 12, 2010, 05:25 PM
would be nice, but if you read the rest of the script you don't see the other stuff anywhere, so it's 99.9% fake

Please check those fake information and clean those rubbish.

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64653

it looks like some low IQ ID just have no idea what a true spoiler looks like even when the true one already be posted .

kkck
October 12, 2010, 05:26 PM
Right now franky's arms seem to be like a giant swiss army knife lol. They are most likely completely filled with weapons. I do hope franky steals the pacifista remains and uses whatever he finds in them to further improve himself.

fistsofrage
October 12, 2010, 05:26 PM
AHHHH THAT WAS SO AWESOME!

Really liked the chapter, it completely makes up for the lack of epicness from before. I did not expect them take out the pacifista and sentoumaru that easily, it is truly overwhelming. I thought all of the strawhats were going to get a chance to show off their skills but it seems that is not the case. Given the ease with which zoro and sanji defeated the pacifista, I would think both of them actually have haki to boost their attacks. I recall a pacifista being strong enough to exhaust every bit of strength the strawhats had before. Right now sanji and zoro are much, much stronger than the entire crew of the strawhats combined(from before the timeskip). Right now the strawhats should easily be as strong as a respectable new world crew.

Dude, those spoilers were too long and did not add up with the pictures so they're fake. There's no way all of that happened in a single chapter. So far only the translations of the pictures are legit.

CBlitz
October 12, 2010, 05:28 PM
fake spoilers everywheeeeeeere :oh

Glad that Franky got his old hairstyle back in that one panel, a buzz-cut doesn't really suit him, he needs wacky hair! Now if only his enormous arms would get smaller....

kkck
October 12, 2010, 05:30 PM
Dude, those spoilers were too long and did not add up with the pictures so they're fake. There's no way all of that happened in a single chapter. So far only the translations of the pictures are legit.

Yeah, just noticed that lol. Anyways, it was cool for a fake spoiler though, too cool actually. I get the impression there is a bit of the real thing and a bit of fake in there. Not sure if it is too long, oda generally puts in a lot of content in each chapter.

Charlie
October 12, 2010, 05:30 PM
The earliest I saw that spoiler (which mentions luffy taking sentomaru out with a single haki hit), had a post date of 10-8 on some blog. So pretty much fake, not to mention on that site, it mentions no sources either, besides being posted super early.

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 05:36 PM
Do you really think Sento & the PX's were defeated in one whole chapter? :XD

It would be awesome but I'm sure it would at least be covered in two chapters not one. Yes, it's a fake script. Well, I always knew Sento would face Luffy again on SA. I'm just hoping it happens real soon now. :amuse

k-dom
October 12, 2010, 05:43 PM
So who is missing on the sunny? Luffy, Brook zoro and Sanji I guess.
Luffy is missing all new Franky fun. I feel so bad for him

Lord.Strife
October 12, 2010, 05:44 PM
I like the fact that it seems like luffy has ended up at the meeting point with the fake SHs.

RichardMNixon
October 12, 2010, 05:48 PM
Seems like the fake SHs consider Fake Luffy to be genuinely strong? They think he'll take care of a friend of the "former" Straw Hats.

fistsofrage
October 12, 2010, 05:51 PM
Seems like the fake SHs consider Fake Luffy to be genuinely strong? They think he'll take care of a friend of the "former" Straw Hats.

It's not that he's strong but more like if he gets the chance to kill, then he will. The fake luffy bastard has no hesitation when it comes to killing.

VashDaStampede
October 12, 2010, 06:12 PM
I really didn't want it to happen, but it looks like its heading that way. I hope luffy just talks to the fakes briefly, figure it out mid conversation, and leave before they get to the marine trap. A re-match on SA just seems too predictable to me. I guess that's why I don't want it to happen.

beastboy
October 12, 2010, 06:21 PM
Predictable =/= bad... I mean, its obvious since it was heavily foreshadowed... Oda wanted us to think it was obvious...

triniman121
October 12, 2010, 06:21 PM
SO he still retained some of his stupidity... lol That's ood. I didn't want him to become really really serious. But I like the way luffy turned out. I just wish his hair was longer still haha. maybe when they manga is over...

THM Nindo
October 12, 2010, 06:22 PM
I really didn't want it to happen, but it looks like its heading that way. I hope luffy just talks to the fakes briefly, figure it out mid conversation, and leave before they get to the marine trap. A re-match on SA just seems too predictable to me. I guess that's why I don't want it to happen.

Predictable, but EPIC!

The last thing I want is for the real Strawhat pirates to go unnoticed and just proceed to go to the New World.

I want the whole world to know that the Strawhat are back, and that they are even more dangerous than before!!

fistsofrage
October 12, 2010, 06:24 PM
Predictable, but EPIC!

The last thing I want is for the real Strawhat pirates to go unnoticed and just proceed to go to the New World.

I want the whole world to know that the Strawhat are back, and that they are even more dangerous than before!!

Exactly, sneaking around is a waste of time in my opinion. They're wanted pirates and they're proud of their status.

kidopitz27
October 12, 2010, 06:27 PM
luffy said he will not use the mustache when boa present it ..... i hope the Fake luffy is an idiot too so that he will not recognize luffy and make him look for nami and ussop and the the marines will come and then the real luffy will pawn the marines and the Fake SH know the this is the real luffy

this is what i would like to see when the real luffy beat some of the marines for the Fake SH the marines will tell that he is the real luffy and then the fake SH will say that they have to beat luffy and they are not afraid because they have a lot of recruits and the when they are going to attack luffy zoro and sanji arrived and the monster trio is back

lordHokage
October 12, 2010, 06:44 PM
I really didn't want it to happen, but it looks like its heading that way. I hope luffy just talks to the fakes briefly, figure it out mid conversation, and leave before they get to the marine trap. A re-match on SA just seems too predictable to me. I guess that's why I don't want it to happen.

Knowing the real Straw Hats Pirates, I they have to confront these fakers and reclaim there respect while creating mayhem. :tem

BlackSword
October 12, 2010, 06:44 PM
Well... So... Chopper finally pulled his head out of his ass only to be replaced by Luffy's head... I suppose to me Luffy is only cool when he is beating someones ass otherwise he is just a dumb ass lmao
-Franky's hair is back <3
-Seems like it will be 2-3 chapters before departure at the earliers 10-20 chapters at the latest... (Please god/Oda no...)
-Seems Nami isn't with Usopp anymore so maybe she can go retrieve her stupid Captain...
-Franky Mini-hand = Epic!
-Looks like supporters of the 'Battle Royal' theory are going to be right... Free-for-all Smackdown Live on Saobody Archipelago! And if you don't like it Luffy has a few words for ya! 'Gomu Gomu no Rape Your Face!!! :pwned
-Chopper/Usopp - Amazing Sparkles! <3
-Those swords don't look anything like Zoro's swords... And if he just sent a COC blast at them he could tell right away they are not his crew... (
-Fake Luffy is going to get raped by real Luffy! YAY!!

VashDaStampede
October 12, 2010, 06:49 PM
Predictable, but EPIC!

The last thing I want is for the real Strawhat pirates to go unnoticed and just proceed to go to the New World.

I want the whole world to know that the Strawhat are back, and that they are even more dangerous than before!!

Don't get me wrong, an epic fight is an epic fight. I have no problem with it happening. And I figure it will happen...its just me being impatient and ready for the strawhats to get to Fishman Island and the New world. :)


Exactly, sneaking around is a waste of time in my opinion. They're wanted pirates and they're proud of their status.

If sneaking around is a waste of time then why is luffy disguised? I think he's changed at least a little bit (but only a little since it looks like he isn't recognizing the fakes). The last time he was on SA, he was running around screaming lets go to the amusement park. Now he's in a big coat with a hood over his head walking calmly to meet up with his crew.

What will probably happen is he will try to stay under the radar, but make a mistake and end up being recognized any way...and the battle will begin.

lordHokage
October 12, 2010, 06:58 PM
Well... So... Chopper finally pulled his head out of his ass only to be replaced by Luffy's head... I suppose to me Luffy is only cool when he is beating someones ass otherwise he is just a dumb ass lmao
-Franky's hair is back <3
-Seems like it will be 2-3 chapters before departure at the earliers 10-20 chapters at the latest... (Please god/Oda no...)
-Seems Nami isn't with Usopp anymore so maybe she can go retrieve her stupid Captain...
-Franky Mini-hand = Epic!
-Looks like supporters of the 'Battle Royal' theory are going to be right... Free-for-all Smackdown Live on Saobody Archipelago! And if you don't like it Luffy has a few words for ya! 'Gomu Gomu no Rape Your Face!!! :pwned
-Chopper/Usopp - Amazing Sparkles! <3
-Those swords don't look anything like Zoro's swords... And if he just sent a COC blast at them he could tell right away they are not his crew... (
-Fake Luffy is going to get raped by real Luffy! YAY!!

I am one of those Battle Royal predictors. If Chopper can come to his senses, there is still hope for Captain Luffy. :woo

elitefox
October 12, 2010, 07:17 PM
Luffy gets the CoO and can't even tell his friends apart or sense them on the island. This is bullshit.

he didn't see them for 2 years and thought they've change a lot:D

that is kinda hilarious :eyeroll
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Still can't say much, spoiler too short :D

Kris Luis
October 12, 2010, 07:38 PM
Hopefully we see someone noticing that Luffy looks like Gold Roger when in battle (you know, Luffy having the same grin when battling XD). Oda is just a genius..Making it so that there has to be a fight unless there's another twist which I doubt. We'll get to see Mugiwara's strength!~ :D

asnesio
October 12, 2010, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't be very surprised if Oda got some negative feedback on Franky's appearance. But still, Oda doesn't seem like the type of guy who would compromise because of some negative feedback.

Still, I'm happy to see that Franky hasn't really changed (character wise). Though he does get more freaky every panel we see him in.

Oda-sensei reads mangahelpers' forum.... :-)
Don't think he changed Franky's hair back because of bad feedback. He just played with us all along ^^. I was happy with Franky extreme change, but the returning of the old style haircut are really welcome because he looks funnier this way. Suuuuuuuuuper.

Gourmamonster
October 12, 2010, 07:44 PM
Luffy gets the CoO and can't even tell his friends apart or sense them on the island. This is bullshit.

I got ex girlfriends that I don't recognize after 2 years haha

Rody naruto
October 12, 2010, 07:46 PM
I dont know why Luffy kips his moustache next to who he thinks are his nakamas,but he sure looks funny.

And for those that regrets Franky,looks like they gonna be happy with that one.Sounds like he can make his hair short and tall at will.Isn't that cool?I want it(without the nose picking :D)

Captain golddigger
October 12, 2010, 07:48 PM
wait is there a pic of zoro or is it just script?

Gourmamonster
October 12, 2010, 07:52 PM
wait is there a pic of zoro or is it just script?

There is a picture in chapter 599 (last week).

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v59/c599/17.html

Raijū
October 12, 2010, 07:53 PM
I dont know why Luffy kips his moustache next to who he thinks are his nakamas,but he sure looks funny.

And for those that regrets Franky,looks like they gonna be happy with that one.Sounds like he can make his hair short and tall at will.Isn't that cool?I want it(without the nose picking :D)

The fact that the fake zoro & sanji were able to recognize chopper as being the real is one reason Oda make luffy keep his disguise. In the same time, luffy think that zoro & sanji are disguised too.

Captain golddigger
October 12, 2010, 07:53 PM
There is a picture in chapter 599 (last week).

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v59/c599/17.html

oh...i was talking this week....thank anyway though

asnesio
October 12, 2010, 07:56 PM
Classic Luffy reaction to the fake Sanji and Zorro. I guess he never changes..... except he did manage to notice that their faces have changed (So Luffy gets some points there). The old Luffy would probably say something like, they still look the same after two years :XD. Anyway that really put a nice smile on my face.

Frankys hair returning seems a little forced to me. He has button just for that, not that it doesn't look Suuuppppeeerr. So Luffy kept the fake nose - mustache, interesting, thought he wouldn't use it. Cant wait for the scripts.

Don't think it is forced. His hair got burnt in karakuri island. Now It looks like a "battle mode hair"(the monk one) that won't get burnt when fighting. When out of battle mode he just put his old style hair(the "Elvis" one) back.

DARK
October 12, 2010, 08:01 PM
Franky got his ~suuuuuuupppppeeer~ hairstyle back!
And he was able to do so without cola this time?!

Luffy is a real idiot, not unlike Chopper. Baka! :mad
He's as dense as ever. How is he ever going to lead his crew if he can't even tell who they are by instinct?

general_zero
October 12, 2010, 08:21 PM
Why is Luffy with the fake Zoro and fake Sanji? Is he lost? Fake Zoro and fake Sanji is with fake Luffy last chapter in GR47 after fake Luffy got his ass kicked. any idea guys?

lordHokage
October 12, 2010, 08:30 PM
Luffy is a real idiot, not unlike Chopper. Baka! :mad
He's as dense as ever. How is he ever going to lead his crew if he can't even tell who they are by instinct?

I agree that Luffy is a real idiot. It is truly amazing how Captain Luffy doesn't know his crewmates, and all crew members except for Chopper knew the real from the fakes. How Luffy became Captain is mind-boggling to me. :tem

Black Hawk
October 12, 2010, 08:30 PM
it´s a nice short preview. Yeah Frankys out look is strange, but all this new stuff is more awesome that i aspect. We doesn`t see all of the new upgrade but only this nose stuff too funny.
On the ther side is Ruffy so stupid, that he really that the both are th real sanji and zorro. That is a little low. He zorto from day one. When he really know Zorro, then he will be suspect about the fake one.

elitefox
October 12, 2010, 08:32 PM
it´s a nice short preview. Yeah Frankys out look is strange, but all this new stuff is more awesome that i aspect. We doesn`t see all of the new upgrade but only this nose stuff too funny.
On the ther side is Ruffy so stupid, that he really that the both are th real sanji and zorro. That is a little low. He zorto from day one. When he really know Zorro, then he will be suspect about the fake one.


As somebody said, it might be for plot purposes

Oda wants the SH be involve in the event that will happen in Grove ??

Zoro #1
October 12, 2010, 08:47 PM
So franky's giant outer arm is just like an attached glove which is over his smaller hand

Zoro #1
October 12, 2010, 08:59 PM
Did you guys realize that luffy is wearing the mustache even when he is with the fake zoro and sanji, if he had believed that they are the real one shouldn't he have take it off.

jiminy
October 12, 2010, 09:04 PM
itd be hilarious if the fake luffy dismissed the real luffy because he had the fake mustache on. Shows how dumb the fakes would be too haha.

this chapter from the spoilers is looking good for me so far. Cant wait to see more or read it tomorrow.

Kaizoku-O Luffy
October 12, 2010, 09:04 PM
Did you guys realize that luffy is wearing the mustache even when he is with the fake zoro and sanji, if he had believed that they are the real one shouldn't he have take it off.

Luffy thinks both fake sanji and zoro are disguised as well so he is disguising himself with a stache.

Zoro #1
October 12, 2010, 09:13 PM
I thought both Nami and Ussop were together, and where the hell did chopper come from, damn can't wait need more spoiler or script to explain some of the things.
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yeah he is, and that what I like about him... he is human and he is not perfect

Its not soo much of being perfect, first of all the guy doesn't know how to lie, he believes anyone and everyone so if someone comes up to him and says he is zoro or sanji, after not seeing them for two years, he will go for their word.

THM Nindo
October 12, 2010, 09:19 PM
This is the part of the day that I like the most!
When its about time to go to bed, and you just know that tomorrow morning you will most likely have a full scripted spoiler!!

I can't wait to see how this ends...
IMO, the crew is not getting back together in 600 unlike many of us predicted...

Gourmamonster
October 12, 2010, 09:26 PM
I have to admit Franky is growing on me. With his new upgrades there are a ton of possibilities and does anyone else think that Franky's small hands are pretty sick?

underpants
October 12, 2010, 09:41 PM
So who is missing on the sunny? Luffy, Brook zoro and Sanji I guess.
Luffy is missing all new Franky fun. I feel so bad for him

yay me! it would be fan if the three of them looking at franky's surprises like kids watching a magic show! too bad luffy isn't there!

k0dach1
October 12, 2010, 09:41 PM
I find it irritating that Oda is taking too long to get them back together. Probably for build up or something, but it really is just taking too long. 2 (possibly 3) chapters without anything happening. Fake SH better hit the floor on this new episode.

Anyway, other than that, Franky is crazy! lol! I really wish he gets seastone hands ^^

Poneglyph420
October 12, 2010, 09:42 PM
WOW! It seems like the SH (Or Luffy at least) will have some role in whatever will happen in Grove 46 with the Marines and Fake SH.. And good 'ole Luffy.. Even after training and becoming pure bad ass.. He's still so simple minded..
I'm actually kinda glad he is still that pure and idiotic.. For me at least.. That's Luffy.

We've seen everyone getting together up to now, except Brook...?? I wonder what's up with him and his gig???
Love the whole Franky, Usopp, Chopper exchange..

Awesome.. Yet I'm left wanting more...
Sigh.

Lee-tyme7
October 12, 2010, 09:44 PM
LOL!! Franky just get weirder and weirder. It looks like Luffy listen to Hancock after all putting on that mustache. Isn't she thoughtful like a wife. XD

R4n
October 12, 2010, 09:48 PM
looks like Oda-sensei received a lot of complaints about Franky's new hairdo and decided to change it back ahahah :D

omegakai
October 12, 2010, 10:14 PM
Luffy gets the CoO and can't even tell his friends apart or sense them on the island. This is bullshit.
CoO is something from dragon ball z that allows you sense the presence and power level of someone you know from long distant. it is a heighten sense of awareness for most part, and other part like Coby allow for hearing voices.


So who is missing on the sunny? Luffy, Brook zoro and Sanji I guess.
Luffy is missing all new Franky fun. I feel so bad for him

Yep knowing him he is going to freak out with sparkly eyes when he see frank in action. He might just have a sparkly eye convulsion

Kaiser Will
October 12, 2010, 10:17 PM
I really liked the Spoilers.

Lol, Luffy is never gonna change, although if he indeed change, I think he will lose his charisma. And I prefer him like the stupid he is :p!

Oh, Luffy should have seen the new improvements on Franky, I bet that the sparkles from his eyes would probably blind us.

I really thought that we would be able to see all the crew members reunited in this chapter, well, maybe it can still happens, who knows.

chitgoks
October 12, 2010, 10:19 PM
lolz. i didnt expect franky to have his hair back and while usopp did mention a good point regarding franky's huge hands, the smaller robotic hand was simply hilarious!

SharpKnives
October 12, 2010, 10:47 PM
I like the way usopp is drawn. He skinny like Luffy and Sanji and sometimes Zoro but we know he's muscular. Now when he does something epic we will see Mansopp drawn in great detail!!

SharpKnives
October 12, 2010, 11:00 PM
Naw ima keep Luffy and camie. Though i've been a fan of Usoppsince he was introduced. No little muscle's can make me like him better than I already did. Besides I like. Usopp x mozu and Kiwi:)

El-Thor
October 12, 2010, 11:10 PM
Zoro you amazing bastard you ! Saving a drowning girl !

Thank god his scar is not from Mihawk -_-

fistsofrage
October 12, 2010, 11:16 PM
If he got that eye scar from saving perona at sea then maybe there's a zoro x perona future? Even though there's no "romance" in one piece, it seems as though characters are allowed to like each other and perhaps get together off panel. For example, hancock liking luffy means that perona might have developed emotions for zoro.


On the other hand, I'm really hoping that spoilers false, cuz I want zoro's loss of an eye to have an even cooler story behind it.

And I don't really get the no "romance" thing either, because it seems obvious to me that ussop and kaya are gonna get together...

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 11:16 PM
It says that Zoro's eye scar is from saving Perona when she was nearly drowning at the sea

OMFG! :shakefist

I wonder where Perona is now? :grin Did Sanji ask the eye question? If so, then Zoro's the true gentlemen by saving Perona from a "certain death"? lolz

Love it! :3

Poneglyph420
October 12, 2010, 11:21 PM
IF indeed Zoro saved Perona from the seas, and that's how he got scarred.. That would be awesome, sweet and a little lame all rolled into one...
very cool..

GPZrag
October 12, 2010, 11:22 PM
you know this? where is it stated? please say

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 11:23 PM
@ GPZrag - check the spoiler thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64653)or are you referring to Smoker's weapon? lol

Poneglyph420
October 12, 2010, 11:30 PM
you know this? where is it stated? please say

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Smoker
That's the Wikia...

I'm too tired to find the Manga and anime links too....
Sorry for the off topicness of my post...

So...

WOnder if Luffy will be the only SH at GR 46 or not????
THoughts????

Bugzee
October 12, 2010, 11:34 PM
Well, I wasn't expecting the real Luffy to end up with the fake crew on GR 46 tbh. Chopper? Yeah, I could see him. It'll be interesting to see what Sento makes of the situation once he arrives...I'm referring to Luffy's attempt in "being disguised as someone else" xD.

I can see a battle royal happening while Brook is on stage lol. Maybe, the sounds coming from the concert will "hide" the noises from the PX's coming or something? Not many people will pay attention to it anyway...at first that is. :P

chitgoks
October 12, 2010, 11:40 PM
now im mighty curious how zoro got that scar if it was because he saved perona from drowning? sharp nails and she accidentally hit his eye? h e he he

Poneglyph420
October 12, 2010, 11:50 PM
Well, I wasn't expecting the real Luffy to end up with the fake crew on GR 46 tbh. Chopper? Yeah, I could see him. It'll be interesting to see what Sento makes of the situation once he arrives...I'm referring to Luffy's attempt in "being disguised as someone else" xD.

I can see a battle royal happening while Brook is on stage lol. Maybe, the sounds coming from the concert will "hide" the noises from the PX's coming or something? Not many people will pay attention to it anyway...at first that is. :P

The only reason I assume Luffy could end up at GR 46 is from the spoiler..
Where Fake Zoro and Sanji essentially lead Luffy there.. So sure seems like there will be something going down at GR 46 for sure...

And I'm personally doubting this Zoro saving Perona thing.... Could be but Hmmm.. :notrust

AlexisBlaze
October 12, 2010, 11:57 PM
2 years on a deserted island with a girl could spark something even for zoro eh? :p

Kaizoku-O Luffy
October 12, 2010, 11:57 PM
now im mighty curious how zoro got that scar if it was because he saved perona from drowning? sharp nails and she accidentally hit his eye? h e he he

Apparently that spoiler is fake.

Junaid_Sennin
October 12, 2010, 11:58 PM
Oh dear, it seems even Luffy was fooled. So now he's on his way to Grove 46, where the Fake Straw Hats and their 100 recruits are. I'm pretty sure Sentoumaru is already there, watching from high up in the mangrove or something. He probably won't recognise Luffy yet. But when the fight breaks out between the Fakes and Luffy, he'll be like "What the hell is going on? Who is that guy? He's taking them all down!" And then he notices that the Fakes are fake, and then Luffy's hood comes down and Sentou recognises him, and gives chase

Freid
October 13, 2010, 12:07 AM
Im sure when Fake Luffy sees Luffy, we would have a scene with him having a hard time figuring out if Luffy is the guy he is looking for. He circles Luffy trying to figure out what is different about him when Luffy's fake mustache is staring him right in the face. In the end, he would probably come to the conclusion that its not the guy he is looking for. Yh, both Luffy's will prove to be idiots.

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 12:32 AM
I wonder if Luffy will remain an idiot forever? not that i mind though, his stupidity is funny, that's what makes Luffy :)

damane08
October 13, 2010, 01:19 AM
so even Luffy fell for it? the fake SH crew is so damn annoying! if it wasn't for them the SH crew would've met up already... they're starting to piss me off because of this. I want to see the entire crew together as soon as possible, not too much to ask right?

Kaizoku-O Luffy
October 13, 2010, 01:27 AM
At least everyone has met up except luffy. Seems next week the action begins.

k-dom
October 13, 2010, 01:28 AM
No reunion for 600 it seems, too bad.
And it also seems that Luffy will take care of the fake on its own

Mike Harris
October 13, 2010, 01:29 AM
I wonder why Oda is making this renuion so freaking long. He could have easily made this a two or maybe even a chapter and a half. It could potentially be four fuckin chapters before they even completely reunite and set sail. I wonder if this will be a theme for the NW because he usually has pretty good pace.

vagabond87
October 13, 2010, 01:32 AM
So those rookie brothers are in the chapter... Now we can see if my "lizardonheadofoneofthebrothers" finding is true...

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 01:32 AM
Oda, for the love of god, please make the FUC*ING REUNION ALREADY. I was expecting a reunion since it reached 600, but i was sadly wrong :(

ranigurung
October 13, 2010, 01:39 AM
taking time is good thing if you rush with reunion.. he wont lhave any story ..so good the he take time but i cant wait to read more ....

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 01:46 AM
taking time is good thing if you rush with reunion.. he wont lhave any story ..so good the he take time but i cant wait to read more ....
I'm not saying he should rush it, if that were to happen he'll end up like Kubo :XD. I only want luffy to at least see One crew mate, if he were to meet up with one, then i would be happy,and i highly doubt if Oda were to rush the reunion he wouldn't have any story, Oda is a Genius.:D

elitefox
October 13, 2010, 01:55 AM
I'm not saying he should rush it, if that were to happen he'll end up like Kubo :XD. I only want luffy to at least see One crew mate, if he were to meet up with one, then i would be happy,and i highly doubt if Oda were to rush the reunion he wouldn't have any story, Oda is a Genius.:D

Lol I don't think there would be 200 chapters before they reunited :eyeroll

if that becomes true, lol I wonder how will it be done even he transform to Kubo :blink
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Oda, for the love of god, please make the FUC*ING REUNION ALREADY. I was expecting a reunion since it reached 600, but i was sadly wrong :(

About your signature

its not entitled Luffy but One piece :mad

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 02:02 AM
Lol I don't think there would be 200 chapters before they reunited :eyeroll

if that becomes true, lol I wonder how will it be done even he transform to Kubo :blink
<hr noshade size="1">


About your signature

its not entitled Luffy but One piece :mad

LOL, if i were to put One piece, then it would be best manga/anime ever, but since it's luffy i put best manga/anime Character :p

Well, at least luffy meet fake crew members, better then nothing i suppose :XD

Poneglyph420
October 13, 2010, 02:05 AM
So those rookie brothers are in the chapter... Now we can see if my "lizardonheadofoneofthebrothers" finding is true...

I'm with you dude, and I'll even go so far as to say he's Coribou.. Blood Spatter or something like that..

I'm surprised it's gonna be a chapter or two before the SH are reunited and set sail... Hmm..
Well Oda hasn't disappointed up til now.. so I'm sure it will work out for the best.. with the SH reassuming their name and setting off in style...

I'll await the chapter I guess...
:amuse

Rody naruto
October 13, 2010, 02:08 AM
I'm happy with the fact that they haven't meet up yet.I was sure there wouldn't be meet up anyway.Like i said waaaay before the spoiler comes out,it would be weird for Oda to setup a fake SH crew for the real SHs to just reunite and set sail!!!It doesn't make sence.Something has to happen.Just to put a little twist into it:amuse.You know!

Wonder if Luffy will kick the fakers along with their recruit all by himself!?:)

Ooblahh
October 13, 2010, 02:16 AM
so even Luffy fell for it? the fake SH crew is so damn annoying! if it wasn't for them the SH crew would've met up already... they're starting to piss me off because of this. I want to see the entire crew together as soon as possible, not too much to ask right?

LOL this just tells us how much of an awesome storyteller Oda is :p
I mean the whole point of the Fake crew is to piss us off and make us hate them :tem

Rody naruto
October 13, 2010, 02:20 AM
I'm with you dude, and I'll even go so far as to say he's Coribou.. Blood Spatter or something like that..

I'm surprised it's gonna be a chapter or two before the SH are reunited and set sail... Hmm..
Well Oda hasn't disappointed up til now.. so I'm sure it will work out for the best.. with the SH reassuming their name and setting off in style...

I'll await the chapter I guess...
:amuse

I think the trio monster would meet up first,fight a lil'bit,reunite with the other,then set sail.

baka-burg
October 13, 2010, 02:24 AM
I'm glad Oda isn't rushing anything. Would have been boring.

And I'm not sure how I feel about Chopper and Luffy not being able to look through any disguise, however bad it is. Well, let's see where it leads us.

Franky is still Franky, That guy is totally insane. Love it.

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 02:31 AM
I heard that choppers beast mode got even Bigger! it was probably his Heavy Point that got big.

matzik1212
October 13, 2010, 02:34 AM
i was just thinking about something ....sorry i know it's off-topic but anyway i want to give my opinion :)....i was just remembering what happened at the war between WB and marines when luffy used COC haki to stop ace execution and the reaction that aokiji had saying that he used some kind of magic ....that's why i think that it's not necessary for admirals to have haki since they're logia type users cause after all haki is used to fight logia and also it helps the user to give more damage,to sense other presences etc.
as a conclusion of what i wanted to say is that i think that if u are a logia type u don't have to specially have haki :)

Rody naruto
October 13, 2010, 02:40 AM
i was just thinking about something ....sorry i know it's off-topic but anyway i want to give my opinion :)....i was just remembering what happened at the war between WB and marines when luffy used COC haki to stop ace execution and the reaction that aokiji had saying that he used some kind of magic ....that's why i think that it's not necessary for admirals to have haki since they're logia type users cause after all haki is used to fight logia and also it helps the user to give more damage,to sense other presences etc.
as a conclusion of what i wanted to say is that i think that if u are a logia type u don't have to specially have haki :)

The thing is that to be an admiral you need to pass by VA grade first and all VA use haki,so by deduction an admiral use haki.

scyter
October 13, 2010, 02:41 AM
Can't wait to see chopper...

BurnSchulz
October 13, 2010, 02:44 AM
So there are 2 Users with nearly the same post in the Spoiler Thread...



What is it good for?


Isnt there a rule against thos Spoiler Copying?



Well nvmnd.

Cant wait for the chapter though.

elitefox
October 13, 2010, 02:47 AM
LOL, if i were to put One piece, then it would be best manga/anime ever, but since it's luffy i put best manga/anime Character :p

Well, at least luffy meet fake crew members, better then nothing i suppose :XD

oh sorry miss out character lol
argh :D
getting blind by luffy :darn

DoItDoItDoIt
October 13, 2010, 02:53 AM
i was just thinking about something ....sorry i know it's off-topic but anyway i want to give my opinion :)....i was just remembering what happened at the war between WB and marines when luffy used COC haki to stop ace execution and the reaction that aokiji had saying that he used some kind of magic ....that's why i think that it's not necessary for admirals to have haki since they're logia type users cause after all haki is used to fight logia and also it helps the user to give more damage,to sense other presences etc.
as a conclusion of what i wanted to say is that i think that if u are a logia type u don't have to specially have haki :)

aokiji didnt say something about magic, he was just surprised that luffy has king´s haki.
and btw all admirals used haki during the war. here (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c564/10.html)

JC_AC
October 13, 2010, 02:57 AM
what's up with Zoro and his urge to go fishing? is it some kind of zen training of something?

chitgoks
October 13, 2010, 03:03 AM
hah! i wasnt surprised their reunion wouldnt happen in chapter 600. so it's goodbye cocoa ... er robin since nami already told chopper she aint the real one. nobody's going to save her

matzik1212
October 13, 2010, 03:09 AM
aokiji didnt say something about magic, he was just surprised that luffy has king´s haki.
and btw all admirals used haki during the war. here (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c564/10.html)

yep good example :) i see now thanks but anyway i still think that logia type users don't have to specially have haki to beat the crap out of a normal DF user if the DF user doesn't have haki or doesn't discover the logia weak point cause all logias have a weak point ...it's just my opinion :tem

scyter
October 13, 2010, 03:49 AM
chopper spoiler pic is fake(it's an old picture)

dr.mohd.arbash
October 13, 2010, 03:57 AM
Are'nt we going to see the new world soon ?

LnDRash
October 13, 2010, 03:59 AM
When I see Franky on those pics this song automatically jumps into my mind xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7BnD2bBreY&feature=related

LongLiveOnePiece
October 13, 2010, 04:20 AM
I believe luffy put the moustache in order to avoid further problems with the fake luffy,he is that idiot to believe he could get away with it even if he has such a big bag and a noticeable cape. :) Also GOda ofcourse doesnt recieve feedback.he has already stated so in an interview,i cant remember where sorry :(

tothx
October 13, 2010, 04:28 AM
I heard that choppers beast mode got even Bigger! it was probably his Heavy Point that got big.

Might be all of them but in this spoiler it seems his normal reindeer mode is the one affected. Aka his reindeer form either improved thru training or he grew up

Fortisdiablos
October 13, 2010, 04:34 AM
I'm wondering why Oda chose not to have them meet this chapter. I can only guess it's to build up the tension (with the marines coming and whatnot) The strawhats are gonna be leaving Sabaody just like they left Enies Lobby (minus the whirlpool). I'm also wondering if the fake strawhats are anything but fodder or do they just seem that way by comparison?

baka-burg
October 13, 2010, 04:52 AM
ah knew pictures. hope for a quick translation

You know what would be funny, if the fake-luffy doesn't recognize real luffy because of the moustache. but i doubt that.

Darkdrone
October 13, 2010, 05:07 AM
Man the cover with zoro lifting weight is awsome! Ussop should take page from him and i see zoro has become more cool over the years. From the panels it seems sanji is more angry then zoro. So I guess luffy will handle he fakes by himself and that includes the coriboa brother huh?

urlaub
October 13, 2010, 05:18 AM
Gonna be epic, Luffy handeling the whole gang!!:) Yeshh, this will be epic, but it will not be finished surely, since the marines will interfere. And we will see the fat f*** interfering with PX-s. What about Chopper? Some form mutation? And Franky is just alot amazing than before.

People were thinking about the hands, well now you got your normal hands. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZXNHor8jbg eheh

bittman
October 13, 2010, 05:32 AM
I'm wondering why Oda chose not to have them meet this chapter. I can only guess it's to build up the tension (with the marines coming and whatnot) The strawhats are gonna be leaving Sabaody just like they left Enies Lobby (minus the whirlpool). I'm also wondering if the fake strawhats are anything but fodder or do they just seem that way by comparison?

Well, Oda already set up some plot elements to hinder the Strawhat's leaving Shabondy, however the moment the Strawhat's meet they will set sail without delay, so if they were to meet this chapter we would see no conclusion to the few plot elements (Fake SH, new rookies, Sentomaru + Pacifistas) that are incoming so quickly.

Plus, I don't know about you but the only things these fake SH and new rookies say to me is: fodder. And not "fodder" as in they are weak, but fodder as in they will exist only to show off the new and improved Strawhats so we have a taste of their levels which will keep us guessing wildly of what else is in store for the inevitable-as-the-sun-rising battle on Fishman Island.

Black Lagoon
October 13, 2010, 05:35 AM
The chapter is awesome as always but I guess I put too much expectation on the 600th. -_-;

Zehahaha
October 13, 2010, 05:48 AM
Am i the only annoyed by the fact that Luffy, Chopper... thought that the fakes one are the real one ? After having all these adventures and stuff, can't Luffy really recognize his friends just by the impression they give ?

Oh well, as you said Lagoon, we put way too much expectation on this

BurnSchulz
October 13, 2010, 06:14 AM
The chapter is awesome as always but I guess I put too much expectation on the 600th. -_-;

Numbers and aniversarys means nothing for Oda.

And thats GOOD!



Imagine if Oda tries to reach some goal in an amount of chapters just to put that special event in a spechial Chapter number...

Some Events will be squeezed, others will be stretched, and that would just ruin the story...


Think about it.

sakoro
October 13, 2010, 06:18 AM
Am i the only annoyed by the fact that Luffy, Chopper... thought that the fakes one are the real one ? After having all these adventures and stuff, can't Luffy really recognize his friends just by the impression they give ?

Oh well, as you said Lagoon, we put way too much expectation on this

Luffy knows them only 6 months, then parted for two years and as we all know the whole crew changed for past 2 years.

or

Luffy, of course, is not a scientist, so he may not notice it.



And the most important question is, "Can Luffy read newspaper?".

Navid.
October 13, 2010, 06:22 AM
Had a good laugh at Zoro using the fact that he got back first as a way of insulting Sanji and ranking him as 7th. The guy knows how to push the right buttons. :D

Seems like we still have to wait a few chapters for the Strawhat reunion, while in the mean time we get the fake reunion... Looking forward to seeing how it all will play out over the next few chapters.

saladesu
October 13, 2010, 06:33 AM
Damn, I was sure the Strawhats were going to reunite in this chapter :(

At least Chopper has been reunited with some of the real Strawhats... Hopefully he will then realise that the people he had seen earlier were fakes, and someone smarter like Nami/Robin will piece it together (especially since Robin had seen the fakehats' recruitment poster)...

And Franky is amazing (Y) Oda-sensei never ceases to surprise me! :XD

matzik1212
October 13, 2010, 06:34 AM
loved usopp,nami,chopper,franky and robin reactions when they heard that luffy is on SA :D...i can see that they are dying to see him ASAP :)..and in the meanwhile what is luffy doing? lol

sarutobi_sensei
October 13, 2010, 06:37 AM
Epic showdown is coming :D

Luffy, Zoro and Sanji vs Marines, Sentomaru and Pacifista :D

That I'm going to love :D

I can see it clearly :D

Junaid_Sennin
October 13, 2010, 06:38 AM
I know everyone's gonna complain about this being ch600 and yet nothing major happened, but I never bought into that whole belief anyway. Only a few of the #00 chapters had what I would consider major events, the others weren't so big, yet people came up with this theory. It's just coincidence, only ch100 was confirmed as being deliberate.

Anyway, I like the chapter. Franky's -mecha was hilarious, and Chopper almost dying from excitement was satisfying. I'm glad Chopper is off Cocoa's trail, but a bit disappointed that even Luffy is that naive. Still, it fits. Like we've all said, Luffy doesn't understand the concept of deception, and even weak disguises (Foxy) can fool him, so there. I'm not sure how things are gonna go down on Grove 46 now that Luffy's there. Does he wipe out all the weaklings with Haoushoku and then run away from the few that manage to ramain conscious? Does he fight them all? Do the Marines show up while he's there, but fail to recognise him, giving him the opportunity to escape? Anything's possible.

Anyone no how to pronounce Lip Service guy's name? It's Douty or Daughty or something. And the other guy, Albion seems likelier than Arbion.

Good chapter.

ecobot
October 13, 2010, 06:52 AM
lol can't wait for the chapter! I see now that Oda can put even more jokes in Frankie! I'm sure there are even more surprises to come, watch out folks!

sarutobi_sensei
October 13, 2010, 06:57 AM
Mecha Franky. Luffy is going to love it!

So the only 2 missing are Brooke and Luffy. Looks like people know that Brooke is a SH Pirate. That's epic :D

Brooke is going on the direction of the boat. Sanji and Zoro are going too. Luffy is the only dumbass that's not on the direction of the boat :|

I can't hope for anything else than: Zoro, Luffy and Sanji beating the hell out of the fakes and the marines and the Pacifista :D

That is something I absolutely wanna see :D

Kris Luis
October 13, 2010, 07:02 AM
I'm guessing Luffy will just take care of this whole situation by himself. I mean, as of the fake straw hats and its alliances that is.. Fisherman's arc will have the marines on them right away anyways.

sarutobi_sensei
October 13, 2010, 07:02 AM
It can begin with Luffy clearing the house with the fakes by doing CoC.Then, when the Marines come, we hear on the sideways: heh looks like the captain has already started making trouble.
Should we go help him?
Nah, he can take care of them.
Oh look it's those Pacifista. Wanna fight them?
Heh why not?
Marines everywhere start being sent to the sky
Luffy: Oh! Zoro, Sanji! You've gotten really close in the past 2 years! When did you change clothes?
Zoro: UHH???
Sanji: Kicks Luffy, stupid captain, those are fakes, fakes!
Zoro: you thought the fakes were the real ones? Idiot
Luffy: Heh who cares, lets just get out of here and go to the ship.
Start kicking their asses and when the ship is about to set sail: Gomu Gomu no Rocket!!!!!!!!!! And goes with the other 2 flying to the ship like they've gone countless times :D
Then: Yohohohohoho don't go forgetting me just because I'm bones!
Comes Brooke running on top of the water with his fans on the shore crying!
The Marines and Sentomaru: Damned be those guys! Send a report to HQ! Tell them that the SH have returned and are heading towards Fishman Island!
*insert epic reunion* :D

deffkryz
October 13, 2010, 07:09 AM
Since it's somewhat unsafe, I'll post the uncertain names of the 2 new pirates here:



465 :ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E :2010/10/13(水) 18:49:05 Ij3wgyaRyO
懸賞金9千200万B 深手のアルビオン

8千8百万B リップ・サービス ドウティ
92,000,000 b "Huge Gash" Arubion (?)

88,000,000 b Rip Sabis Doty (?)


Just about the names from Ohana's script (gotta confess I looked them up in the Japanese Wikipedia)

アルビオン -> Albion (?reference to the White cliffs of Dover, also an archaic name for Great Britain?)
ドウティ - > either Doughty (?maybe named after a prominent Doughty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughty) - Thomas Doughty maybe?) or Dhoti (Indian pantaloons that look like this (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dhotis_in_Delhi.jpg))

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 07:22 AM
I'm still sad that the reunion wont be happening this chapter, but at least it's getting close ~sigh~ :(

biron
October 13, 2010, 07:26 AM
part with zoro and sanji was predictable, i was hoping for something unusual
they havent matured one bit and im fed up with their constant fights
with franky changing his arms back to normal it seems that OP has changed far less than i expected and it makes me sad

KalelDaNinja11
October 13, 2010, 07:34 AM
it's annoying to me that it's going to take another chapter for the crew to fully unite.

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 07:35 AM
it's annoying to me that it's going to take another chapter for the crew to fully unite.

Agreed, but who knows, it might take 2 more chapters though :mad

Yans86
October 13, 2010, 07:35 AM
Lol at Rayleigh!!!does he really think that the strawhats will move after their reunion peacefully with a fresh start???!!:facepalm
Their cameback will be loudly announced all around the world by their actions!!!
Luffy will stop 2 years of supenovas like nothing and Zoro/Sanji and Brook will wipe out the marines XD

THM Nindo
October 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
Oda sure know how to take his time...
I can't wait for them to be on their next aventure already!!
[hr]


Their cameback will be loudly announced all around the world by their actions!!!
Luffy will stop 2 years of supenovas like nothing and Zoro/Sanji and Brook will wipe out the marines XD

Well, it's kinda already announced by Brook!
He just said to his entire fanbase that Luffy was still alive and that he will become the next Pirate King! :tem

Yans86
October 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Yea yea I know,but what I meant is that they will put up a big fight that every pirate and marines in the world will acknowledge!If they destroy those PX,Sentomarou and the SN easily everyone will be shocked!!

DARK
October 13, 2010, 07:58 AM
Were people expecting that the whole crew would reunite by magical number 600?

Oda sure likes to take his sweet time with everything, especially with so much going on at once. He managed to resolve Chopper "saving the day" crisis as well as Brook's concert, reuniting the crew in all ways except for Luffy.

Typical Zoro and Sanji arguing to one another. It seems that their anger has been multiplied by twenty-fold for the past few years.

Brook ends his last concert and announces that Luffy is still alive. Surprisingly Brook's fangirls are managing to hold back a group of Marines. They are officially the fodder of One Piece after all.

We got no sign of Sentoumaru or the Pacifista in this chapter, so they haven't arrived to the archipelago yet.

It'd be interesting if (somehow) Luffy reunites with his crew and escapes to Fishman Island as Sentoumaru shows up.

Darkdrone
October 13, 2010, 08:10 AM
Zoro and sanji fighting is getting old , I mean their 20 now and should keep things a little more cooler. Ya the marines are fodder, the fan girls were able to stop men with guns? If the marines goal was to capture brook then why did they send those weaklings to do the job?

chitgoks
October 13, 2010, 08:24 AM
im betting that there won't be much of a fight between sento and luffy. the SH will leave for fishman island and sento will want to go after them much like smoker

Manta33
October 13, 2010, 08:27 AM
Bitch smack to the one who started complaining about Zoro and Sanji's relationship. I guess you were all hoping they would come back and hold hands. " O Zoro I learned swan techniques and I wear dresses now. Let's be friends forever...I made you some meatballs. Zoro-swannnnnnn" Seriously what were hoping for. What did you guys do with yourselves during the Foxy pirates session...

Darkdrone
October 13, 2010, 08:36 AM
Bitch smack to the one who started complaining about Zoro and Sanji's relationship. I guess you were all hoping they would come back and hold hands. " O Zoro I learned swan techniques and I wear dresses now. Let's be friends forever...I made you some meatballs. Zoro-swannnnnnn" Seriously what were hoping for. What did you guys do with yourselves during the Foxy pirates session...

Lool! All I am saying is that maybe not fight but have a vegeta and goku relationship where they on same team but want to out do each other. Maybe bad example but you know what I mean be serious while smiling and make cool comments to each other. The fighting thing where they actual fight makes them look like they haven't matured. If yoi want to fight then spar with eaxh other.Even they don't like each other they haven't seen each other and should at least ask how strong they got. Healthy respect is all I ask.

Silverlord
October 13, 2010, 08:43 AM
Lool! All I am saying is that maybe not fight but have a vegeta and goku relationship where they on same team but want to out do each other. Maybe bad example but you know what I mean be serious while smiling and make cool comments to each other. The fighting thing where they actual fight makes them look like they haven't matured. If yoi want to fight then spar with eaxh other.Even they don't like each other they haven't seen each other and should at least ask how strong they got. Healthy respect is all I ask.

i think they respect each other just that they r not honest and u can see how sanji steped up to kuma in TB

narupiece
October 13, 2010, 08:45 AM
What's so strange about fangirls stopping marines? With the exception of a few brutal/insane guys the marines cannot do anything to harm civilians so in fact this fangirl army is the best defense against them.

Zehahaha
October 13, 2010, 08:45 AM
Luffy knows them only 6 months, then parted for two years and as we all know the whole crew changed for past 2 years.

or

Luffy, of course, is not a scientist, so he may not notice it.



And the most important question is, "Can Luffy read newspaper?".

Maybe 6 months, but that doesn't mean anything. I mean, can't he recgonize those who went with him, supported him, sacrified themselves for him ? I'm sorry, but 6 months doesn't mean anything, not against the fact that they went through such challenges... At least Nami recognized the fakes, and that relieved me

Silverlord
October 13, 2010, 08:50 AM
What's so strange about fangirls stopping marines? With the exception of a few brutal/insane guys the marines cannot do anything to harm civilians so in fact this fangirl army is the best defense against them.

well yes it's not strange but LOL guess they still love the BROOK after knowing that he's a pirate ...maybe sanji will kick his butt for being so popular xD sanji's eternal dream got beat by brook lol
[hr]

Maybe 6 months, but that doesn't mean anything. I mean, can't he recgonize those who went with him, supported him, sacrified themselves for him ? I'm sorry, but 6 months doesn't mean anything, not against the fact that they went through such challenges... At least Nami recognized the fakes, and that relieved me

true ...well luffy's always like that , part of his personality i guess and also i think luffy will wipe the fakes and co pirates while he's there and make a HUGE impact

SharpKnives
October 13, 2010, 08:50 AM
"I'll pummel you with this leg I trained in hell!!" "Try it i'll slice you in half!!"

I knew I wouldn't be disappointed!!!

Santoryu
October 13, 2010, 09:02 AM
Lool! All I am saying is that maybe not fight but have a vegeta and goku relationship where they on same team but want to out do each other. Maybe bad example but you know what I mean be serious while smiling and make cool comments to each other. The fighting thing where they actual fight makes them look like they haven't matured. If yoi want to fight then spar with eaxh other.Even they don't like each other they haven't seen each other and should at least ask how strong they got. Healthy respect is all I ask.

I think it is a little like Vegeta and Goku, but not as "PG" as DBZ was. Zoro was giving Sanji shit for being there 7th and saying you have no reason to talk to someone that was there 1st. Vegeta harassed Goku all the time over the years especially after Vegeta became a SS (sadly remembers way too many bad animation frames at start of android arc). I think they are always going to give shit to each other from a banter standpoint but also when they get serious they team up as shown through the series. The main difference between them and Goku and Vegeta is that they are both smart asses compared to only Vegeta. Off topic a little though.

I really liked the banter because that is how they have always been towards each other. Also did they actually fight or just threaten each other like usual.
[hr]

Maybe 6 months, but that doesn't mean anything. I mean, can't he recgonize those who went with him, supported him, sacrified themselves for him ? I'm sorry, but 6 months doesn't mean anything, not against the fact that they went through such challenges... At least Nami recognized the fakes, and that relieved me

Anyone forgetting the whole Sogeking thing. Chopper and Luffy did not notice at all. While everyone else did. That wasn't that long ago. Who would think that after two years Luffy wouldn't fall for anything. He forgets people all the time in the series to their dismay all the time.

DARK
October 13, 2010, 09:07 AM
Zoro and sanji fighting is getting old , I mean their 20 now and should keep things a little more cooler.

Zoro and Sanji are 21, actually. Oda revealed their ages (pre time-skip) in an interview. Who's to say that maturity goes with age? Zoro and Sanji have a lot of tension between the two of them, and we clearly know how lecherous Sanji as a person is.

They're borderline adults who have went through a lot of hell individually to become stronger. They're venting out all of their anguish and anger on one another.


If the marines goal was to capture brook then why did they send those weaklings to do the job?

These are probably the only Marines stationed on Sabaody right now, believe it or not. Nobody seems to care if there are plenty of "rookies" showing up on the archipelago constantly. The higher-ranking Marine soldiers are probably out on other business.

Currently the only backup these "weaklings" have is Sentoumaru and the Pacifista, who were dispatched to purposely find and destroy the Straw Hats. The problem being, we don't know how long it will take for them to get there. The Straw Hats could settle their petty differences and leave before backup even shows up, making the World Government even more foolish than they previously were.

4StepsAhead
October 13, 2010, 09:12 AM
HAHAha
Franky's hair is back.....I feel like Oda purposely did the bald head thing to piss off the fans and then gave him back the old hair do........kinda like a middle finger to all the people who complained.


AND YES!!! To Luffy being fooled by fake Zoro and Sanji....I feel like my prediction wasn't totally off........atleast he got fooled by someone. Those guys are gonna piss their pants if they ever see his hood fly off and reveal his strawhat. I hope one of those two brothers are a logica type so they can pwned and everyone will be like ^^;



Currently the only backup these "weaklings" have is Sentoumaru and the Pacifista, who were dispatched to purposely find and destroy the Straw Hats. The problem being, we don't know how long it will take for them to get there. The Straw Hats could settle their petty differences and leave before backup even shows up, making the World Government even more foolish than they previously were.

I thought Sentoumaru and the PXs where already on the island since he said in 599 that he knew the SHs would come back to "this island" which kinda implies that is already on the island

Oh well no reunion for 600 well, that's not to bad....so from now on it's either going to be

1. Fake pirate crew gets owned by the Luffy, then the marines come in with broad axe and the PXs and then the SHs enter and have an all brawl
or
2. Marines come in to stop fake strawhat from executing luffy who they believe to be a innocent civilian, start owning the pirates. Luffy escapes in the choas. (unlikely)

3. Mairines come in and start fighting trying to save luffy who is an innocent civilian, in the fight the real luffy gets revealed, then the real SH's show up and it's a full fledge 3 way brawl. (with a double spread shot of the whole crew when they show up)


I dunno which one do you guys think it will be 1,2 or 3? or maybe there's another option.

LnDRash
October 13, 2010, 09:20 AM
Maybe 6 months, but that doesn't mean anything. I mean, can't he recgonize those who went with him, supported him, sacrified themselves for him ? I'm sorry, but 6 months doesn't mean anything, not against the fact that they went through such challenges... At least Nami recognized the fakes, and that relieved me

Dont you remember this scene? xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_8sy-yK3E

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 09:20 AM
Zoro and Sanji are 21, actually. Oda revealed their ages (pre time-skip) in an interview. Who's to say that maturity goes with age? Zoro and Sanji have a lot of tension between the two of them, and we clearly know how lecherous Sanji as a person is.

They're borderline adults who have went through a lot of hell individually to become stronger. They're venting out all of their anguish and anger on one another.

Luffy has been through hell in order to get his strength ( no the devil fruit didn't make him stronger, it just made him stretchy :D) and you don't see him constantly arguing with his crew mates 24/7(probably because of his stupidity and his care free lifestyle i guess)

My point is, when they're around each other, they can at least try to show a little mature ONCE AND A WHILE. On a side note, i kinda enjoy their little arguments though :XD

AlexisBlaze
October 13, 2010, 09:31 AM
Zorro and Sanji relationship is called Frienemy, something actually quite common in real life. Also, i do hope that they both keep at it. Being mature doesn't really mean that you have to be all quite, calm, and boring. Rayleigh laugh all the time doing whatever he want to, but i think we all can agree that he is mature. :)

coqui018
October 13, 2010, 09:31 AM
i don't get why people are in such a rush. am i one of the few people that doesn't mind oda taking his time with this, personally i wouldn't mind waiting till January for the fish man arc to start, and let oda use this time answer questions about the new things the straw hats learned or showing us whats been going on in the world. it is starting to look like the war arc with all the complaining but after that arc ended most of the whiners re-read it and loved it. so please enough of the whining and enjoy what is sure to be another amazing story told by oda.

i wonder if next chapter will they get off SB like they wanted or are they going to get dragged into a fight with the marines, personally i would like if they got into a battle with the marines netting them all new bounty's with new posters to show the world what they look like now.

anaskr
October 13, 2010, 09:35 AM
did some noticed the spoiler... Zoro wanted to go for fishing but Sanji tells him come with him to the meet up place... but then Zoro said YOU WERE THE 7TH TO COME HERE YOU DONT ORDER ME....

does that mean Zoro has some power ? he knows who has come and who hasn come???

btw the reply sanji gave was classic :D

zelllogan
October 13, 2010, 09:36 AM
210,000,000 b "Wet Hair" Caribou
190,000,000 b "Blood Splatterer" Coribou (I think there's a typo there)
210 + 190 = 400 = new bounty for luffy. Weird coincidence.

chess4
October 13, 2010, 09:37 AM
glad to see my main man brook getting some rcognition.....he is finally recognized as one of the strawhats

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 09:39 AM
i don't get why people are in such a rush. am i one of the few people that doesn't mind oda taking his time with this, personally i wouldn't mind waiting till January for the fish man arc to start, and let oda use this time answer questions about the new things the straw hats learned or showing us whats been going on in the world. it is starting to look like the war arc with all the complaining but after that arc ended most of the whiners re-read it and loved it. so please enough of the whining and enjoy what is sure to be another amazing story told by oda.

i wonder if next chapter will they get off SB like they wanted or are they going to get dragged into a fight with the marines, personally i would like if they got into a battle with the marines netting them all new bounty's with new posters to show the world what they look like now.

We have waited more then a month and almost 2 weeks for the SH reunion, I'll agree with you that i could also wait till January for the fish man arc, but as long as the SH crew are finally together that is.

And i would also like to know what has the world been through during those 2 years.

DARK
October 13, 2010, 09:42 AM
glad to see my main man brook getting some rcognition.....he is finally recognized as one of the strawhats

I'm surprised at how quick WG was able to pintpoint Brook's origins as a Rumbar Pirate, a crew from well over 50 years ago. His bounty is clearly a half-century old and has done the least to serve the crew (he was only a member for 25 chapters before the separation).

kkck
October 13, 2010, 09:44 AM
Not sure I like the spoilers. Based on them so far, the chapter seems completely unremarkable. I liked the fake spoilers better..... Seriously, over the past two chapters there have been no revelations, no action and no excitement. This was chapter 600 and it had nothing special at all.
[hr]

I'm surprised at how quick WG was able to pintpoint Brook's origins as a Rumbar Pirate, a crew from well over 50 years ago. His bounty is clearly a half-century old and has done the least to serve the crew (he was only a member for 25 chapters before the separation).

I don't think it was all that quick lol. There has already been a 2 year timeskip and brook was already seen in SA with the strawhats before.

kidopitz27
October 13, 2010, 10:08 AM
i hope luffy will see that they are fakes after the fake zoro and sanji shows the real luffy to the Fake luffy and then boom goes the dynamite luffy pawned all of them including the new Fake SH recruits ! and then all of the real straw hat will come using the vivre card and they will see luffy standing and all of the enemies all unconscious

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 10:19 AM
Do we have to see luffy pwn the fake straw hats again? ~sigh~

I would leave that marines to do that :XD

gold349
October 13, 2010, 10:30 AM
I'm surprised at how quick WG was able to pintpoint Brook's origins as a Rumbar Pirate, a crew from well over 50 years ago. His bounty is clearly a half-century old and has done the least to serve the crew (he was only a member for 25 chapters before the separation).

I too thinks its weird that WG ID Brooke...as if he is anything like what he was before, looking at him, a connection to his old self and Rumber pirates can never be made, how was it WG ID him?.

anyway, the fake SH's have taken Buggies position, sentamaro will take Smokers position and Raleigh and Shaky will take Dragons position...its a little like Luffys Loguetown thing...though the SH's wanted to leave peacefully it just isn't going to happen and I don't see a mass massacre of Fake Luffy and recruits plus the marines by the SH's before they leave so IMO its going to be hit hard any that come in their way, force through and leave maybe having Shaky and Raleigh as the rear guards.

fistsofrage
October 13, 2010, 10:36 AM
The spoiler on onemanga said that brooke's managers reported him to the marines once he told them his pirate history. It's all about money-making with them.

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 10:41 AM
The spoiler on onemanga said that brooke's managers reported him to the marines once he told them his pirate history. It's all about money-making with them.

Well, money does talk, literally. :XD

Captain golddigger
October 13, 2010, 10:44 AM
i don't remember who i said this about bb not going to become i yonkou but i think he will...considering that he wants to be PK ( i think) he will take seat as a yonkou first before luffy pound his dark ass....i seriously think that battle is gonna be nasty and bloody...bb'S two fruit powers at put him in the top 5 as potential most dangerous men in op. If he can master both fruits....god damn...there's no1 he cant face!!

fistsofrage
October 13, 2010, 10:50 AM
Just because Blackbeard is strong enough to be a Yonkou does not mean he wants to be...after all he's going for the seat of the pirate king.

I doubt luffy would become a yonkou even if they begged him to because the seat of the pirate king is all he sees.

llmcduff
October 13, 2010, 10:56 AM
From MangaStream -
Looks like our Jump won't be arriving until tonight (PDT). Don't kill yourself by staying up all night, read it tomorrow morning!

:(

4StepsAhead
October 13, 2010, 11:00 AM
i don't remember who i said this about bb not going to become i yonkou but i think he will...considering that he wants to be PK ( i think) he will take seat as a yonkou first before luffy pound his dark ass....i seriously think that battle is gonna be nasty and bloody...bb'S two fruit powers at put him in the top 5 as potential most dangerous men in op. If he can master both fruits....god damn...there's no1 he cant face!!

Well it's not that I don't think BB is Yonkou material, I mean he has the potential to be but if being a Yonkou doesn't suit his ultimate objectives I think he'll stay low also....correct me if I'm wrong but I never read anything about him wanting to become the PK, as far as I know, no one knows his true objective as yet, but for some reason I don't think it is to be the PK.

BadFish
October 13, 2010, 11:27 AM
yonkou is not like Shichibukai ( title for 7 strong pirates who work for WG ). Yonkou is a title given to the 4 most strongest pirate crews in the new world, its not like garp not wanting to be a admiral...

happy GIN smily
October 13, 2010, 11:29 AM
just had a look at the spoilers. still only warmup chapters. i had enough

beastboy
October 13, 2010, 11:33 AM
Warm up chapters are what makes the diference between good mangas and bad mangas, they exist in all of them, in some they keep the level of enterteinment in others they're just plain boring...
Guess one piece is on the first category, the best warm up chapter of any manga I've read, it all works up so nice that it feels it really happened, its not forced at all (most of the time)

creuss
October 13, 2010, 11:40 AM
Were people expecting that the whole crew would reunite by magical number 600?

Nope. They're expecting the reunion to happen in a more magical numer... 666.:p (though i think its more demonic than magical..lol... and it's 66 chapters away):D

4StepsAhead
October 13, 2010, 11:41 AM
yonkou is not like Shichibukai ( title for 7 strong pirates who work for WG ). Yonkou is a title given to the 4 most strongest pirate crews in the new world, its not like garp not wanting to be a admiral...

Yeah I know, sorry if I didn't explain myself properly. What I mean is if BB keeps a low enough profile, not claiming any islands and beating everyone in sight, then I don't think he would be given the title "Yonkou".

DARK
October 13, 2010, 11:41 AM
The spoiler on onemanga said that brooke's managers reported him to the marines once he told them his pirate history. It's all about money-making with them.

If that is the case, then money really does make the world go round. Brook does have a bounty on his head, 33 million berri. If they manage to turn him in in, his managers will get a large piece of the dough.


just had a look at the spoilers. still only warmup chapters. i had enough

What could be the issue here about "warm-up chapters?" I don't expect a lot of epic things to happen every week. As with a great story, it takes time to develop the plotline and characters. With so much going on at once, it's difficult to wrap everything up in one week's worth of chapter.

I am just happy knowing that Franky can change his hair all he wants now (regardless of what beverage he drinks). He truly learned a lot from Vegapunk's hand-me down blueprints. Readers such as myself were disappointed that Franky lost all of his hair and replaced his arms with cannon-like kegs. It's good to see that Franky can sprout out "human" arms to assist with his purpose as a shipwright.

Good to see Sanji and Zoro arguing again (pure comic relief).

gold349
October 13, 2010, 11:58 AM
the cover pg Zoro training, he has the scar over his left eye lol the crocodile has one on the left eye too wonder will Oda continue covers to show SH's training for the timeskip?.

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 12:01 PM
Good to see Sanji and Zoro arguing again (pure comic relief).

Agreed, when i saw Zoro's scar, i thought his personality changed, because it kinda looked scary to me:( But as soon as he started arguing with Sanji, i was relieved. Now that i constantly keep looking at Zoro's scar, it does sorta make him look badass, his scar looks better on his left side, thank god Oda made a mistake :D

zelllogan
October 13, 2010, 12:20 PM
yonkou is not like Shichibukai ( title for 7 strong pirates who work for WG ). Yonkou is a title given to the 4 most strongest pirate crews in the new world, its not like garp not wanting to be a admiral...

I disagree about this. Yonkou are pirates defending their territory (their part of new world) & they are strong enough to do that.

But pirates like Blackbeard, Luffy, Gol D roger, ... don't care at all about territory & there are probably more like that on the seas. So I wouldn't give the title of strongest so fast

Gourmamonster
October 13, 2010, 12:22 PM
I feel like everyone is so worried after this 2 year time skip that their favorite manga is going to change. If you liked the last 600 chapters you are going to like the next 600. Oda is still Oda.

I think everyone was so familiar with the old look and feel of the characters and it will take time for us to get used to their new looks. We can take some comfort in knowing that Luff, Usopp and Chopper are still gullible and Sanji and Zoro still fight. I think its pretty smart for Oda to use the Fake SH as a point of comparison.

kurosakixichigo
October 13, 2010, 12:28 PM
i don't remember who i said this about bb not going to become i yonkou but i think he will...considering that he wants to be PK ( i think) he will take seat as a yonkou first before luffy pound his dark ass....i seriously think that battle is gonna be nasty and bloody...bb'S two fruit powers at put him in the top 5 as potential most dangerous men in op. If he can master both fruits....god damn...there's no1 he cant face!!

nah..it doesnt matter even if he mastered 100 devil fruits since he isnt multi tasking when he's fighting..in the end it's just one person fighting with two abilities..that's all..it's not as if there are two blackbeards fighting when he has two devil fruits in him..so he still can be beaten using same ol' haki..as long as it's strong enough to withstand his attack and defence ability..

one example is during his fight with whitebeard..he isnt weakened at all although he lost his quake ability when touched..so if one can stil attack bb when "sucked" by him and defend himself with haki when attacked by his quake ability..i cant see why any admiral should still be that wary of him..considering he rely largely on his devil fruit than haki which I most probably think he doesnt have or have weak control over..seeing that he needs to use his dark ability and getting himself injured..when he can just use haki if he has and not getting any injury at all during his brief fight with luffy at Impel Down..

fistsofrage
October 13, 2010, 12:32 PM
I feel like everyone is so worried after this 2 year time skip that their favorite manga is going to change. If you liked the last 600 chapters you are going to like the next 600. Oda is still Oda.

I think everyone was so familiar with the old look and feel of the characters and it will take time for us to get used to their new looks. We can take some comfort in knowing that Luff, Usopp and Chopper are still gullible and Sanji and Zoro still fight. I think its pretty smart for Oda to use the Fake SH as a point of comparison.

No, I think We all wanted it to change, but we wanted it to change for the better. We wanted it to somehow become even more awesome than before because ever since luffy punched the tenryuubito every chapter was better than the last. And in some ways it is better and in some ways its not, but oda's so good that one piece is still the best anyway.

I'm glad that "zoro saving perona" spoiler was fake xD. And maybe zoro has his eye closed cuz it's still healing? It'd be awesome if he was fighting a super strong opponent he was like "It's time to release the seal on my eye" lol.

vagabond87
October 13, 2010, 12:38 PM
Sani with baloons... Last two years with okamas changed him:eyeroll
Funny is that he isnt afraid of Zoro at all an he is threatening him even after he saw that pirate ship cut in half:darn
One more thing- when Sanji is getting really angry he looks slightly like Lucifer to me:p

Uriel
October 13, 2010, 12:40 PM
No, I think We all wanted it to change, but we wanted it to change for the better. We wanted it to somehow become even more awesome than before because ever since luffy punched the tenryuubito every chapter was better than the last. And in some ways it is better and in some ways its not, but oda's so good that one piece is still the best anyway.
LOL, why do you assume this is for the worst? If you can do better than Oda, just send your idea and make it.

I believe in Oda. Not because He fits my links, but because He's a dedicated professional that proved that what I think is best is not always best for the story. I learned trusting all his choices knowing that they're there for a reason.

So, I'll humble say to all change-haters: STFU or stop reading the manga if this is so "not right"

Captain golddigger
October 13, 2010, 12:45 PM
Wow my argument about bb went pretty far, i though bb wanted to be Pk guess i gotta read back, the yonkou is given to share among the four most powerfull pirates of the Nw, its not like they ask for it...with power u can have land and infamousy...and i know bb wants those....its seems that Wb's seat was already taken but i doubt it was bb....but don't be naive...he's gonna get a chair...just watch.

SirJack
October 13, 2010, 12:47 PM
Wonder how's Luffy current power level.
I guess he should now be as strong as Ace was when he died.

fistsofrage
October 13, 2010, 12:59 PM
LOL, why do you assume this is for the worst? If you can do better than Oda, just send your idea and make it.

I believe in Oda. Not because He fits my links, but because He's a dedicated professional that proved that what I think is best is not always best for the story. I learned trusting all his choices knowing that they're there for a reason.

So, I'll humble say to all change-haters: STFU or stop reading the manga if this is so "not right"

If you didn't notice I said oda is the "best", so try to read before you respond. And if you didn't understand what i was saying then read what I was responding to, that's why we quote people.

I basically said that after two years change was obvious, but we expected super oda change and he only changed it a little bit which isn't bad.

sarutobi_sensei
October 13, 2010, 01:08 PM
I don't understand why are people fretting that the SH haven't all meet up already. Why were some people so overexcited about chapter 600 when almost nothing happens on the 00 chapters?

It's your own fault for thinking that something huge would happen in this chapter :|

I'm not disappointed I'm loving it. Who cares if it's warm up chapters. It's a new start for them. It's a new adventure. Let it roll slowly so that they can relax a little.

I don't mind them meeting on chapter 605 if it means that we get to see Luffy and co kick some Fake, Marine and Pacifista asses. Even if they don't, I'm sure epic stuff is about to happen.

Zoro #1
October 13, 2010, 01:14 PM
I can see luffy beat the shit out of all the pirates and after he is done the marines arrive and they are like WTF, what just happened :D

Gourmamonster
October 13, 2010, 01:17 PM
No, I think We all wanted it to change, but we wanted it to change for the better. We wanted it to somehow become even more awesome than before because ever since luffy punched the tenryuubito every chapter was better than the last. And in some ways it is better and in some ways its not, but oda's so good that one piece is still the best anyway.


That was basically what I was saying. OP has always been an amazing manga and I don't see that changing in the future. I just feel that from some of the comments people don't think it will remain *as* good. I am sure it keep getting better and better.

fistsofrage
October 13, 2010, 01:22 PM
That was basically what I was saying. OP has always been an amazing manga and I don't see that changing in the future. I just feel that from some of the comments people don't think it will remain *as* good. I am sure it keep getting better and better.

Of course, one piece is king of manga after all.

For the record, Zoro looks way cooler than sanji lol, and I think he'd have better luck with the women than sanji.

vagabond87
October 13, 2010, 01:40 PM
For the record, Zoro looks way cooler than sanji lol, and I think he'd have better luck with the women than sanji.

Umm.. well Zoro doesnt look "way cooler" than Sanji for everyone. What youre writing isnt facts but your point of view. For me Sanji grown and changed more.
Zoro probably will have better luck with woman but I suppose that he wont be interseted in them;)

luffyq1
October 13, 2010, 01:45 PM
Umm.. well Zoro doesnt look "way cooler" than Sanji for everyone. What youre writing isnt facts but your point of view. For me Sanji grown and changed more.
Zoro probably will have better luck with woman but I suppose that he wont be interseted in them;)

Sanji's goatee makes him look even more sexy/bad ass, No Homo :D

Freid
October 13, 2010, 01:48 PM
For the record, Zoro looks way cooler than sanji lol, and I think he'd have better luck with the women than sanji.

Women for some reason seem to like men that look like women. Its true. Sanji still looks more feminine than Zoro and so he should still have better luck with women.......... Theoretically. :amuse. In mangas, the girls tend to like the cool guys anyway so I gues Zoro would have better luck.

Naruffy
October 13, 2010, 02:12 PM
Slow chapters are always a set up for action, you can't have a good manga without them.

So, The Monster Trio are the only one's not on the ship yet? I can't wait to see them in action.

Uriel
October 13, 2010, 02:26 PM
If you didn't notice I said oda is the "best", so try to read before you respond. And if you didn't understand what i was saying then read what I was responding to, that's why we quote people.

I basically said that after two years change was obvious, but we expected super oda change and he only changed it a little bit which isn't bad.
I read you well. I even can read from your words more than you can express. And I can read more posts than just the one I quoted from you and from others as well.

Read me again and look the first question. Answer THAT and then we keep discussing.