Fairy Tail 206 Discussion / 207 Prediction

[ghostexiled]

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[Newkerzy]

New chapter out:
http://www.mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/91156309/1

Gildartz going into super Saiyan Mode and displaying his killer intent was EPIC!!! It's no wonder everyone in the guild fear and respect him.

Oh yeah..... HOLY CRAP!!! Mashima's gonna do 3 chapters ALL AT ONCE??!! GOOD LORD!!! this puts him on Kishi and Oda's level of epicness!! From now on, it won't be the "Big 3" but instead the "Big 4"

[Zatono]

Holy hot damn. Natsu just got put down with killing intent, and Gildartz really, really showed his "Gale Raregroove" side with that dark look he had. What a badass.

[Mashiro_Luna]

Awesome chapter but the best part had to be that next week we get three chapters. And the first one is titles Mest so we will get to know more about him. Probably one chapter of finishing this round up, one chapter of everyone seeing who passed and finding out what the next round is and then the last chapter will be the begining of round two.

[monkey D luffy]

so who is the idiot said gildarts is gonna be a fodder? natsu actually cried just from megical power gildarts released. there is no way natsu can stand up to a real dragon, and whats more it seems like every bad guy till now was really a fodder way below the level of an exceptional s class. hell i think that in the case of all the guild (minus makarov) vs gildarts, gildarts win. he seems way more powerfull then laxus, mira, mistgun and erza combined

[Me2Ecchi]

Nice chapter... btw it looks like Mashima is fire on, releasing 3 chapter in a row next issue. Would be nice if that happened with One Piece to :)

[Ero-Sanji]

Wonderful!

Mashima handled it perfectly, he made Natsu proceed while keeping Gildartz dignity. Next chapters is named Mest, how about some flashback and background story?

[maravish]

I think he probably is. I mean, who so far in this manga has beaten natsu simply by magical power/killing intent? Hes insanely strong.

[kkck]

Holy crap, this was awesome..... This is not quite something I expected. For the first time in his life natsu was in a fight and not only there was not a sliver of a chance to defeat his enemy but he knew that was the case. Natsu quite literally fell in tears. I was waiting to see what sort of purpose happy would serve in battle however I think I know. Next chapter happy will walk in with a diaper and give natsu a change considering right now natsu probably had every conceivable bodily fluid and solid in him scared out of him.

I was a little disappointed, when I say grey in the cover I thought he would appear in this chapter. It was still and awesome chapter though. Next chapter is called mest... I guess we get to see a bit of him. If the next chapter is called mest though, there is no way mashima would give him the easy path. In that sense, mest is likely to get in a fight against someone. I don't see gazille losing so early in the fight so it is likely mest will beat the crap out of loki and grey. That would serve as a good plot device to give lucy back control over loki and one of his stronger and more reliable spirits (well, IMO loki is not reliable in the least though, he did not appear during the edolas arc and he did not fight for lucy recently).
[hr]
I think we know more about the tests though. Against the s-class mages passing is not a matter of merely defeating the enemy but rather also getting the s-class mage to approve of you. Basically, you either defeat him in battle or have him approve of you as an s-class mage.

[Arrogance]

Chapter was amazing. Gildartz went super saiyan and it was sweet :hurr.

Jokes aside, I really like what Gildartz was doing. We had our nice dosage of chibi Natsu attacks at the beginning for some comedy and then things are got serious. Its amazing the power Gildratz has. All he does is raise it up and we actually see Natsu shaking in his boots and crying for the first time of his life. I guess the whole point of these first fights isn't really just tournament fighting but for the S-class mage to test you in whatever way they see fitting. I guess the bright side to this is that Mashima won't sacrifice the status and power of any of the S-Class mages as much by making them physically lose in order to let people move on. Plus I Gildartz said at the end that you can fight me again, so I hope thats a promise for a legit rematch in the future when Natsu becomes more skilled :).

As for next week we are getting 3 chapters in one release :oh....thats amazing!!!! :faint

[biron]

BEST_FT_CHAPTER_EVER
to my suprise mashima handled this on odas level
its time for natsu to get serious and to know his limits or he will be rendered to dust one of those times
also gildartz looked a lot like mira when we first saw her transformation

[Riyuki]

Hell yea this chapter was awesome. Natsu passes to the next round!! I'm sure Mest will as well.

[Sollum]

Hehe, so S fight was luck also :>

Tho somehow i doubt Elf will get to the lucky part, since he is fighting against his sis, i doubt she'll want him to do dangerous stuff.

The 3 chapters in 1 thingy is epic!!!!!! epic!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. 3 chapters of Mest... oh boy... i smell flashback!

[kkck]

^not luck.... Gildarts tested natsu's power and deemed it worthy. More importantly, he tested natsu's character. Natsu did not have a sliver of the power Gildarts has however he met the basic standards required for Gildarts to deem him a worthy S-class mage. This isn't luck, it is natsu meeting a standard that was set for him. It's not like not having Gildart's power means you can't be an s-class mage.

[Lee-tyme7]

Wait, so the test was fear?...Anybody can just get scare facing that guy so I think it just doesn't make sense. Why have them fight with power and strength? If he'd explained that this test was meant for Natsu and the reason they fought was to prove the gap of power between the two, then maybe that would make more sense.

But yeah this chapter was indeed awsome. It was heart-breaking to see Natsu admit defeat like that. As the hero of this manga we wanted him to win and it's only that we kept thinking he will win it hurts even us when he loses but everything turn out good in the end and he did manage to pass. Hurray Natsu!

[Bhoot]

Epic chapter . Seriously worth the wait especially the news of 3 chapters next week .

Loved the Mini Natsu fighting Gilly for some comic relief followed by a complete change in atmosphere . Goddamit ... never expected Natsu to give up let alone cry . This shows something called character development .

I dunno , i m beginning to think all of the matched were planned by Marakov . I mean it is a island with high reference [maybe owned] by a mage guild , Fairy Tale . I mean all the competitors seem to be being shown their weaknesses and testing if they can overcome it . And i also Assume all S-class are considered leaders of the guild members and so they were made to face their biggest problems.
Example :

Juvia against Erza who can neutralise water attacks with sea king armor . She has a handicap of relying completely on water abilities . She is being tested if she can actually rise over this weakness to attack Erza [I am gonna guess if she can't do it , but still wins with Lissane's help somehow , she still might be held back]


Then Elfman is being tested if required , if he can fight his own family members [or maybe if he can just hit a girl (especially if its his sister)]


Natsu was tested if he was just too hardheaded to realize when he was beat and hence not know when to do a strategic retreat [sometimes a retreat is the best solution , fighting head on is at time completely stupid] And maybe to show Natsu he needs to get stronger too .


Then , Cana went against Fried , now this i m guessing was a test more for Fried than Cana (Notice how i tend to not use the comrades name coz they i m gonna guess are there in case some wizards might be more proficient in team attacks / strategic / synchronized attacks / buffing (maybe for future Sky DS) so it would be troublesome for them to fight w/o a partner [so just to level the field])

[sarutobi_sensei]

GOD! Even I a reader got scared of him on that moment. He was like Super Sayajin Gildartz. The looks in his eyes was just plain scary.

YEY! Natsu passed :D

3 Chapters @ once: DAMN EPIC! Triple good things on the weekend :D

Mest and Wendy vs Gray and Loki. I wanna see it :D (That's what I believe).

Crazy thing was crazy x)

[Krono]

It's not like not having Gildart's power means you can't be an s-class mage.

Yeah, people seem to forget that while Gildartz is S-Class, he's far from being average S-Class. Erza, Luxus, and Mystogan were all roughly equal. Natsu's power is just barely in range of defeating them alone. Gildartz's power is so terrifyingly above theirs that for the first time Natsu realized that not only was his opponent stronger than him, but that he could not win.

That doesn't mean the others are weak. Gildartz is just that exceptionally powerful. An attack that pushes him back would likely be the end of 80% of the other mages out there and be a serious blow for another 10-15 percent. Plenty powerful enough to qualify for S-Class.

[kkck]

Saying the test was fear in the ugly way of putting it. Gildarts was testing whether natsu had it in him to know his limitations and withdraw himself from a fight he knows he can't win. He wanted natsu to recognize his own weakness. This chapter we actually got to see a side of natsu we had never seen before. Regardless of how strong the enemies had been so far natsu always had recklessly continued fighting and it somehow miraculously worked out. Had natsu kept that attitude here he would have shown that he was a reckless fool that did not know his own strength nor he knew when to stop fighting. As gildarts said, knowing your own weakness makes you grow into a kinda person. He needed to know natsu had the maturity to acknowledge he was way over his head. If this fight really had an impact on natsu then from now on we might see him even thinking a tad more through his fights rather than merely overpowering the enemy through power or luck.
[hr]

Yeah, people seem to forget that while Gildartz is S-Class, he's far from being average S-Class. Erza, Luxus, and Mystogan were all roughly equal. Natsu's power is just barely in range of defeating them alone. Gildartz's power is so terrifyingly above theirs that for the first time Natsu realized that not only was his opponent stronger than him, but that he could not win.

That doesn't mean the others are weak. Gildartz is just that exceptionally powerful. An attack that pushes him back would likely be the end of 80% of the other mages out there and be a serious blow for another 10-15 percent. Plenty powerful enough to qualify for S-Class.
Based on what we have seen, I don't really think erza's and mira's power is that close to luxus and mistgun. IMO either of them is quite stronger than the two girls although not necessarily to the point where they'd have easy fights. I see things like this:
1.-gildarts
2.-luxus-mistgun
3.-erza
3.5.- mira

Gildarts is quite a bit stronger than those in number 2. As we saw, luxus was never able to intimidate natsu with the sheer amount of magic he posseses. Basically, even with the difference in power and the clear intent to thoroughly beat the crap out of him natsu could still see a chance of victory. Worth noting, when luxus actually took natsu's strongest attack he fell before it. On the other hand the same attack did not really hurt gildarts. Quite a difference IMO.

Mira has been without fighting for a while now, for that reason I think she is a bit below erza although they should still be close enough. IMO though, natsu should be capable of fighting evenly with either of them when he gets serious. Erza is strong but natsu's magic is meant to ultimately trash dragons. Armor's and demon's armor or skin should not be a problem in the long run. In turn, natsu's and gazille's fight with luxus is prove of how far away they are from him.
[hr]

Next week's chapter is gonna rock!! 65 pages!

Note that it is 3 chapters though, not 1 long ass chapter. Next week is gonna be awesome and nothing can change that. In OP the strawhats finally set sail for the NW, kabuto made his move in naruto, BLEACH IS BACK and 3 FUCKING CHAPTERS OF FAIRY TAIL. The week is so full of win I can't even fathom it.

[Arrogance]

^not luck.... Gildarts tested natsu's power and deemed it worthy. More importantly, he tested natsu's character. Natsu did not have a sliver of the power Gildarts has however he met the basic standards required for Gildarts to deem him a worthy S-class mage. This isn't luck, it is natsu meeting a standard that was set for him. It's not like not having Gildart's power means you can't be an s-class mage.
Right, we seem to be getting the true meaning behind this matchups right now and the overall test to be an S-Class mage. Its not necessarily power but character and the traits or a person as well. For Gildartz, he saw Natsu as worthy not because he could out power him but because he could recognize fear. One way I look at it is if one can recognize fear in appropriate moments then you are a smarter person overall because you won't mindlessly charge into any dangerous situation. It goes to show us that as much as Natsu as seemed mindless in the past, it was more that he has a strong will and belief in himself to succeed. BUT even Natsu isn't stupid and was able to recognize this situation as being beyond his limit. And for Natsu to be an S-Class mage this is something he needs, and Gildartz recognized that and approved of that.

[Sollum]

^not luck.... Gildarts tested natsu's power and deemed it worthy...

That's why i called it luck.

Let me quote myself



Also Makarov mentioned "luck", it has to be something more than just one "free" path.


The fact that it was a test, not a beat down. Those who go to test themselves unprepared depend on luck. It was that moment when Natsu raised his fist, would he have attacked, he would have lost, yet he stopped and thus won.

I think that Juvias "test" will be "save or not to save Lisana?" and probably right answer will be not to save >.>

[kkck]

I still don't see what luck you are talking about. Natsu was allowed to pass due to the qualities he showed during the fight. There was not much of an element of chance, either natsu had or did not have what he was being tested for. Gildarts even went a little harder on natsu that he should have(he said before he showed natsu his power that by then he would normally have let natsu pass by then). That said, I don't think all of the other fights will be like natsu's. Erza or mira are not nearly as strong as gildarts, perhaps they would indeed demand to be defeated or at least matched in combat (thing which natsu would have been able to do and it would also be realistic for the other teams to pull).

[mq1986]

Part of what makes me really like Fairy Tail is that it always emphasizes that strength comes from kindness, gentleness, knowing fear, wanting to protect people--it's quite different from many manga where the purpose is always to strengthen your abilities for the sake of defeating someone. I've always liked Natsu as a protagonist because unlike the other male prodigies that make main characters of other manga, he usually wins from actual support from his friends rather than an ever-increasing amount of power from his end. I really, really appreciate that. That's why I thought this chapter was very touching; good for everybody.

[Castriota]

hmm i thought gildarts lost his arm to the black dragon? unless thats a prosthetic or somethin i forget.

nonetheless, what a great chapter. thats the first time i've seen natsu actually bow out to someone superior to him. pretty sick. i'm happy natsu wasn't made to roll over gildarts because that would be incredibly shitty.

holy 3 chapter spread next week. does that mean its gonna go on break for a bit after? hopefully some of mest's abilities are shown in the next chapter and not lightly brushed over.

[OldSkOoL]

Ah as I thought, Poor Natsu had no chance in hell. Artwork was spectacular and of course Mashina-San had to throw in a panel of fan service ; P

So it seems Mest may have to battle after all. I wonder who he'll get Levy or Gray? Couldn't call it either way. I get the feeling that Levy some how could use her magic to find the quiet path. Whether Gazille would t knowingly take it is another story

[Asmoden]

I wonder who is gonna lose in the first round:oh
I mean at least one teem need to be defeated otherwise the test will be meaningless.
Mest,Nazu and Alberona alredy passed (Mest have to pass for plot purposes)

For me the weakest was Alberona and probably Elfman
Team Gray and Levy are equalli balanced
Still Levy without her partner is to weak to become an S class mage.
And how come Evergreen defeated Elfman and still is him to be proposed for S rank level?

[wooticus]

@ castriota:

well erza got an artificial eye by polyushak, so it shouldn't be impossible in fairty tail universe to regain a lost arm / organ / leg / whatever.

gildartz ist just awesome, i just want to be back in the arc versus gazilles old guild.. with mistogun, luxus and especially gildartz around. imagine this walking guild-bot everyone was so scared about.. guess gildartz could have just walked by and let it vanish in a big bang

[fcToho]

Dragon Slayer Secret Arts: Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade

That's one long name to shout in a battle. :eyeroll

Well I think you need to categorize your attacks somehow. ;)

But great chapter. After the edolas arc I'm really starting to like Fairy Tail again (I don't think that will happen with bleach, but I'm still following).

[Kravmaga]

Dragon Slayer Secret Arts: Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade

That's one long name to shout in a battle. :eyeroll

Well I think you need to categorize your attacks somehow. ;)

But great chapter. After the edolas arc I'm really starting to like Fairy Tail again (I don't think that will happen with bleach, but I'm still following).

Actually that's the same finishing attack he used against luxus at the end of that arc. I'm somewhat happy Mashima decided to re-use some of those finishing moves like fairy law as opposed to a lot of shounens where protagonists' super moves are a current-themed one-use-only thing...

[3c]

This chapter was superb in it's own right. I gotta say I would have never thought Gildartz would turn out this powerful, he made Natsu chicken out, Natsu of all people by just releasing energy and killer intent? What the... It's not like Natsu hasn't been up against absurdly powerful foes before, but he couldn't even bare to fight a serious Gildartz? Seriously it sucks for Fairy Tail that he's been gone so long, he could have single-handedly taken care of all their troubles up to now.

And three chapters next week? Holy shit Mashima rocks. If only WSJ authors could do the same from time to time~

[Zatono]

^Agreed. Gildartz could of solo'd every arc in Fairy Tail so far, including fighting all the Oracion Seis.

[-Ken-]

S classes of Fairy Tail are just so high up through. Elfman beat an S-class mage who's name escape me in Phantom Guild, and Gray also beat Juvia. Elfman's part also beat Elfman himself, so she's in the S-class power for sure. Fried was also S-class for being stronger than her. There already seem to be much mages who is on S-class 'average power' in Fairy Tail. They just haven't be named S-class yet. My point is that anyone, except Levi, can pass the test and still be on pair with S-class from other guild.

[LoS]

My point is that anyone, except Levi, can pass the test and still be on pair with S-class from other guild.

You don't know this, period. From what we have seen thus far, this is correct. But we have not seen the top tier of Tartaros, nor Raventail, nor the 3rd member of the Ballam Alliance. Pure conjecture on your part. Also, none of the above you listed were on Jura's level, for being an S-class mage.

[Bowser]

HOLY S---

3 Chapters :D

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/91156309/11

Dammnnn this face is beastly. Sheer killing intent there, loved this chapter.

[-Ken-]

You don't know this, period. From what we have seen thus far, this is correct. But we have not seen the top tier of Tartaros, nor Raventail, nor the 3rd member of the Ballam Alliance. Pure conjecture on your part. Also, none of the above you listed were on Jura's level, for being an S-class mage.

Jura's one of ten top mage of the continent. I know the it's from what the counsel 'regonized'. But at least it should be able to set some line for the stronger of the S-class. he's not your average S-class for sure.

We can only look at other mage for now. And the only non-fairytail S-class that we saw are from Phantom guild. So my statement is at least true from what we've seen so far.

[LoS]

that's why I said, "thus far."

I'm not picking on you, it's just that since last week's chapter it seems far too many posters are coming up with assumptions(which they are labeling as truth) for far too many things. Like last week's thread dissolved into posters stating the strength/purpose of the test et al. When all we know thus far has clearly been illustrated for us. The purpose of the test was, once again, clearly laid out by Makarov. Those who are shocked that Natsu didn't have to beat Gildartz to advance simply didn't read the chapter. It is obviously stated in the text.

The big revelation for this chapter is the difference between our run of the mill S-class Fairy Tail mages in Erza/Mira and an SS-class mage in Gildartz. That and Gildartz actually providing a learning lesson for Natsu. Since, as he clearly stated, Natsu possesses the required strength to become an S-class mage, but he lacked the restraint.

Now, whether or not the others possess the strength is a question. Levy clearly doesn't, but as we have seen, other qualities such as "heart" can allow her to move on.

[ssj4jw]

If 3 three chapters coming out next week does that mean that there is going to be a break? I can see a good cliffhanger next week.

[Lee-tyme7]

when will the FT special about Natsu & Happy's home come out? I thought it was suppose to be out the Oct 20 or is it Nov 20?

[LoS]

I can see a good cliffhanger next week.

I'm sure there will be a juicy one, but even if it is anti climatic I will be satisfied if it is the resolution of the first phase of the test. That way the very next chapter is an explanation of the second phase of the test.

[-Ken-]

I'll be surprised if Levy does pass the first round. The only way I saw her passing is that she got the quiet path, which is a bit lame. But 'luck' is a part of S requirement, so it's entirely possible.

On the next week, it'll be one awesome weekend right after the midterm XD. I can't wait already.

[xErzaScarlet]

Mest is out soon , so i cant wait to see him in action .
As for Gildartz , he is super cool . He didnt even move and he has made Natsu cry in front of him . Thats really strong . I wonder if Gildartz appear Orachion Seis chapter , there would be much more of a uproar .

[tobeulp]

I love this great chapter Gildartz really make Natsu piss his pants off... Even Erza,Laxus and Mira combine will be nomatch against Gildartz... I think this arc is for setting up an epic arc next

[Krono]

that's why I said, "thus far."

I'm not picking on you, it's just that since last week's chapter it seems far too many posters are coming up with assumptions(which they are labeling as truth) for far too many things. Like last week's thread dissolved into posters stating the strength/purpose of the test et al. When all we know thus far has clearly been illustrated for us. The purpose of the test was, once again, clearly laid out by Makarov. Those who are shocked that Natsu didn't have to beat Gildartz to advance simply didn't read the chapter. It is obviously stated in the text.

In their defense, Makarov did say they would need to defeat an S-Class mage to proceed. It was speculated that they'd be holding back, and they clearly were fighting on the defensive. But given the difference in power between Gildartz, and everyone else, it's not all that surprising that the conditions for defeat might be a bit different. In his case apparently just forcing him back was considered enough to pass.


Now, whether or not the others possess the strength is a question. Levy clearly doesn't, but as we have seen, other qualities such as "heart" can allow her to move on.

Personally I suspect that Levi's strength is underrated. We've never actually seen her fight. Her power doesn't lend itself to big attacks, but it does lend itself to being versatile. Her team being surprised and wiped out by Gajeel isn't exactly a big mark against her power, and we later see Elfman berating Jet and Droy for getting knocked out and leaving Levi to finish the mission alone. Other than that, and Fried's barriers we don't have too much to indicate how good she actually is.

[iamtenninja]

I don't remember which page was Levi's guild card but I do remember that she has the ability to write words out and then attack with them. (Writing hot would make the word 'hot' physically appear and also take on the attributes I believe)

Thus I can only hope Levi attacks her opponents with killer vocabulary.

[maravish]

How come Gildartz isnt one of the top ten mages?

[Zancrow]

^ Becuz they are afraid of gildartz power of total destruction and dont wanna make him angry if they were ever on a meeting and they know they will lose and be totaly destroyed into nothingness lol

[MechR]

How come Gildartz isnt one of the top ten mages?The title's at the whim of the Council, so who knows? Maybe he's too prone to random property destruction?

[ghostexiled]

Guys please remember NOT to write just one line of text. This also falls under not just writing about how awesome or excited you are for next week's big chapter releases.

This series is getting better and better in my opinion... and to compare it to any other series is undeserved. It is it's own beast.

I can't really state anything that hasn't already been stated by other members... I can agree that it was great to see such character development for Natsu.

This also goes to show that anything is possible and can make total sense in this series.

1st we had Lucy X Cana win by "luck". While also showing Fried X Bixlow lose by showing loyalty and honor to their guild.

Now we are shown that Natsu can be scared and know when it is time to back down. Something that we all thought was something he would never do.

I am excited for next weeks release, not just for the hugeness of it... but for the upcoming development of the remaining characters.

[kkck]

I have to say, mashima rocks as a mangaka. Ever since I started reading this manga there is at least a week once a year where more than 1 chapter is released. he makes a lot of omakes too and chapters every now and then the first part of a chapter provides actual relevant information about other mages. He even rarely seems to take breaks unlike kubo, kishi or oda who have a 1 week break every couple of months. heck, we just case out from a 1 month OP break, a 2 week bleach break and kisshi has had at least 1 break a month recently. Heck, even after a one month break all oda gave us was a completely unremarkable 23 page chapter where nothing happened. MASHIMA IS AWESOME!

[Luzxia23]

Well, I think Gildartz power is about the level of Phantom's Guild Leader, Jose.. Or even higher, but still no where near Makarov (or I might be wrong)...

As for Natsu, I'm pretty sure he's strength is about the level of Erza.. He's grown stronger and stronger every arc and all Erza did was just taking out most of the "second-strongest villain" in every arc and most of the time she almost lost. While on the other hand, Natsu's the one that defeated most of the "strongest-villain" in every arc.

And for my opinion about Gazeel and Juvia, although the master did say that they can take an "S-Rank Mission", it doesn't mean that they're equal to the "S-Class Mage".. I think, Makarov thinks that Gazeel and Juvia knows what to do and expect in a "S-Rank Mission", through their experience in Phantom..

And Jura... I think he's about the same level as Luxus.. After all, he can take out a member of Oraceion-Seis without that much effort and he's the weakest member of the 10 Holy Mages (if I'm not mistaken), indicating Jose is stronger than him.. And since I think Gildartz is about the level of Jose, means that Gildarts is stronger than him... And I bet Gildartz is stronger than Gerard(Jellal) and Zero(Brain) (who were defeated by Natsu's "Dragon-Force", which makes him few times stronger than he normally is)

Addition: Anyone remember Lily? I think in his (her(?)) original form he's at least as strong as Erza or stronger.. Since we know that in Edoras, he's rank is higher than Erza Nightwalker (which might indicate that he's stronger than Erza Nightwalker).. And Erza Scarlet fought Nightwalker, and they almost draw... So if Lily's in original form, he should be a S-Rank Mage...

So if I were to rank the Mages of Fairy Tail and give number to their magic power is:
1. Makarov - 1,000,000 MP (Magic Power)
2. Gildartz - 700,000 MP
3. Luxus (Ex- Member) - 350,000 MP
3.5. Mistgun (?, not sure, maybe lower or higher, but stronger than Erza, since he could put her to sleep with his magic) (Ex- Member) - 250,000 MP or 300,000 MP
4. Erza , Lily (Original Form) - 200,000 MP
5. Mirajane - 185,000 MP (Because she hasn't been fighting for about 2 years. And if she didn't lost any of her power, she should be as strong as Erza, but then Erza's grown stronger in every arc due to the fights)
6. Natsu, Mest (?) (I think he's at least as strong as Natsu, or even stronger) - 185,000 MP or 195,000 MP
6.5. Gazeel - 180,000 MP or 185,000 MP
7. Gray - 175,000 MP or 180,000 MP
7.5. Fried - 165,000 MP or 170,000 MP
8. Juvia, Elfman, Cana (?), Lucy, Evergreen, Bixlow - 150,000 MP
9. Lisanna, Levy, Wendy - 100,000 MP
10. Jet, Droy, and the rest of the known member should have about the same power - 50,000 MP

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST! >,<

[Bhoot]

How come Gildartz isnt one of the top ten mages?

Gonna assume the 100 year quest was more important to complete than being part of / trying to take become a part of the top 10 [Maybe he just got bored and didnt try] or maybe we just have no seen how strong the other mages are

And for the guy above , Lily is not as strong as Erza , he was going toe to toe with Gazeel , so take him down the list

[Yashie]

OKay, This was the BEST ever chapter I've ever read, so far. Mashima rocked it out. My favorite would be the tiny Natsus tugging on Gildartz face :P LOL

But ... Here's a question. Even when Makarov went berserk in the Phantom Arc, I don't think he was as terrible as Gildartz. Does this mean, perhaps, Gildartz is stronger?
I never thought Natsu would 1) Cry and 2) Admit defeat ... Even when facing people like Luxus, or Oracion Seis, or Gerard he never has ... does this Make Gildartz stronger than all those people?

[ghostexiled]

^You gotta remember that Makrov is a bit older than Gildartz is, so he may not be able to use the kinda power he once had when he was Gildartz age.

Seems almost every time Makrov does use any type of serious power... it always has a bad side effect.

Also there is a difference between having raw power and not knowing how to properly use it (Like Gildartz claims he has) and having power but knowing how to use it (Like Makrov seems to know how to do).

[dqrt]

Hey guys, one thing that bugs me is, didn't gildartz lose an arm during the 100 years old quest? I think it was when we saw gildartz for the first time (when they move the town into a anti gildartz destruction tactic or sth like that). I remember him showing natsu some kinda wounds and natsu getting all pissed off 'cause he won't be able to fight him properly now or sth like that. I may be totally wrong tho :p

I just looked for that chapter and turns out he did lose an arm a leg and an organ:

http://www.mangareader.net/135-44553-15/fairy-tail/chapter-166.html

He stated that he lost an arm but in this week's chapter it shows gildartz with its left arm untouched. so do u guys think he had some sort of transplant like erza had for her eye or is it a mistake?

[Zancrow]

i wonder what kinda dragon slayer the black dragon would have since it gave gildartz so much problems , and do u think that the black haired guy that has everything die around him might have gone through similar traning to gildartz since both their power are about pure destruction/death

[Baka_Sousui]

Hey guys, one thing that bugs me is, didn't gildartz lose an arm during the 100 years old quest? I think it was when we saw gildartz for the first time (when they move the town into a anti gildartz destruction tactic or sth like that). I remember him showing natsu some kinda wounds and natsu getting all pissed off 'cause he won't be able to fight him properly now or sth like that. I may be totally wrong tho :p

I just looked for that chapter and turns out he did lose an arm a leg and an organ:

http://www.mangareader.net/135-44553-15/fairy-tail/chapter-166.html

He stated that he lost an arm but in this week's chapter it shows gildartz with its left arm untouched. so do u guys think he had some sort of transplant like erza had for her eye or is it a mistake?

Just a thought that may help things make a little more sense about Gildartz's missing body parts.
Erza lost an eye when she was younger. She should only have one.
I'm pretty sure you can work out the rest. ;)

[Yashie]

Hey guys, one thing that bugs me is, didn't gildartz lose an arm during the 100 years old quest? I think it was when we saw gildartz for the first time (when they move the town into a anti gildartz destruction tactic or sth like that). I remember him showing natsu some kinda wounds and natsu getting all pissed off 'cause he won't be able to fight him properly now or sth like that. I may be totally wrong tho :p

I just looked for that chapter and turns out he did lose an arm a leg and an organ:

http://www.mangareader.net/135-44553-15/fairy-tail/chapter-166.html

He stated that he lost an arm but in this week's chapter it shows gildartz with its left arm untouched. so do u guys think he had some sort of transplant like erza had for her eye or is it a mistake?

Yeah but even back then he had a prosthetic metallic arm and leg thing, maybe he just got more refined (though non-magical) ones, or just had them covered up so they match with his normal arm.
He's still awesome, though, what with one arm and one leg missing He can still fight like he did.

[tobeulp]

I have to say, mashima rocks as a mangaka. Ever since I started reading this manga there is at least a week once a year where more than 1 chapter is released. he makes a lot of omakes too and chapters every now and then the first part of a chapter provides actual relevant information about other mages. He even rarely seems to take breaks unlike kubo, kishi or oda who have a 1 week break every couple of months. heck, we just case out from a 1 month OP break, a 2 week bleach break and kisshi has had at least 1 break a month recently. Heck, even after a one month break all oda gave us was a completely unremarkable 23 page chapter where nothing happened. MASHIMA IS AWESOME!

Well I can't blame Kubo,Kishi or Oda having a break mainly because their series is the most popular in Shounen but Fairy Tail isn't in that league yet... Fairy Tail isn't not even half many of the chapters of the 3...
But if I will rank shounen I read in the past weeks it will be like this

1. One Piece
2. HSDK
3. Fairy Tail
4. Psyren
5. Naruto
6. Bleach

I just hope Fairy Tail Anime will not be another Rave that they will just not complete it

[senewe]

If it's progressing like this, and at the peak of the arc, Gildartz got killed by the deadly shadow guy, I would seriously lose my faith in Mashima. man this dude is freaking awesome. he can use HAKI.

[Bhoot]

If it's progressing like this, and at the peak of the arc, Gildartz got killed by the deadly shadow guy, I would seriously lose my faith in Mashima. man this dude is freaking awesome. he can use HAKI.

He even causes earthquakes ... reminds me of Whitebeard .... Who knows .... there may be a fight gildartz [playing whitebeard] v/s Raven Tail leader [playing as all the 3 Admirals combined] where Gilly looses giving Natsu [playing Luffy] the kick he needs to get stronger.

[The Don Master T]

How come Gildartz isnt one of the top ten mages?

most likely due to his inability to hold back his power i think thats the main reason for him not being in the ten magical saints or what ever they are called

[Diablos]

If it's progressing like this, and at the peak of the arc, Gildartz got killed by the deadly shadow guy, I would seriously lose my faith in Mashima. man this dude is freaking awesome. he can use HAKI.

NOT HAKI, SUPER SAIYAN! Holy freaking **** :O, I seriously am still amazed. The power level of Gildartz was so insane it made Natsu cry out of fear... I mean NATSU man the reckless fearless natsu... that was just amazing.. and to know that next week we have 3 chapters OHOHOH I'm just so excited for it to see the development that is coming ahead that it gives me chills c(:

[Kazu-Sama]

Juvia against Erza who can neutralise water attacks with sea king armor . She has a handicap of relying completely on water abilities . She is being tested if she can actually rise over this weakness to attack Erza [I am gonna guess if she can't do it , but still wins with Lissane's help somehow , she still might be held back]


Then Elfman is being tested if required , if he can fight his own family members [or maybe if he can just hit a girl (especially if its his sister)]


Natsu was tested if he was just too hardheaded to realize when he was beat and hence not know when to do a strategic retreat [sometimes a retreat is the best solution , fighting head on is at time completely stupid] And maybe to show Natsu he needs to get stronger too .


Then , Cana went against Fried , now this i m guessing was a test more for Fried than Cana (Notice how i tend to not use the comrades name coz they i m gonna guess are there in case some wizards might be more proficient in team attacks / strategic / synchronized attacks / buffing (maybe for future Sky DS) so it would be troublesome for them to fight w/o a partner [so just to level the field])

It's a very good point. Look at weaknesses of the S-class

Juvia: relies solely on water
Elfman: Honour, won't fight a girl at all
Natsu: Overconfidence
Fried: Loyalty, willing to potentially betray teammates
Cana: Comparatively Inexperienced - in the timeframe of battles we've seen, she's hardly competed


And Juvia gets someone who can halve water damage,
Elfman gets a woman - and his sister no less
Natsu gets someone who has ridiculous power
Fried gets someone he feels he might owe
Cana gets someone stronger in base power, so has to use tactics.

Now Gray hardly has many weaknesses, even when he is without magic he almost beat Bixlow, and with help has beat Racer, beat Lyon, and wins most fights. But I've noticed his weakness against fast-moving enemies (Such as Racer or Lyon's eagles), so he may go against Wendy/Mest and face the speed that Mest seems to have.

As for Levy, she appears to lack offence and confidence, so a fight against strong-defence Gray may be useful.



And as for those wondering about Gildartz's arm, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v23/c200/9.html shows him with a prosthetic arm before this arc...

[LoS]

Cana: Comparatively Inexperienced - in the timeframe of battles we've seen, she's hardly competed

You could not have been more wrong. She is clearly the most experienced. Why else do you think Mashima would let us know she is the longest tenured member of this generation, and the one who has tried this test the most. She is called a guild veteran for goodness sake.

[herminihildo]

Gildartz is awesome. Now that's the power for the strongest mage in FT. Though I really thought that the fight would end in a more funny way.

So team Mest, Gray and Levy are the only ones left unknown. I'm betting Mest would be fighting either Gray or Levy.

[Bhoot]

OKay, This was the BEST ever chapter I've ever read, so far. Mashima rocked it out. My favorite would be the tiny Natsus tugging on Gildartz face :P LOL

But ... Here's a question. Even when Makarov went berserk in the Phantom Arc, I don't think he was as terrible as Gildartz. Does this mean, perhaps, Gildartz is stronger?
I never thought Natsu would 1) Cry and 2) Admit defeat ... Even when facing people like Luxus, or Oracion Seis, or Gerard he never has ... does this Make Gildartz stronger than all those people?

U see there is also a difference in the situations here :

1. When Marakov went against Jose , Natsu was no where near him and most importantly was NOT a part of the fight . How much did Lucy react to the shockwaves she felt from Gillys power?? barely anything!! its a difference seeing / sensing power than actually going up against it .

2. When fighting the other villians / ego - tistic maniacs , his comrades were on the line . He knew he had to stop them .



P.S That reminds me about the Luxus Arc ..... Y couldn't Natsu pass through Frieds barrier since only ppl of older age [dont remeber the exact age] were to be confined ??



You could not have been more wrong. She is clearly the most experienced. Why else do you think Mashima would let us know she is the longest tenured member of this generation, and the one who has tried this test the most. She is called a guild veteran for goodness sake.

She is one of the oldest members of fairy tail agreed , but for some time all she odes is sit in a bar and drink . Now u have to agree that she has to be out of cimmision for some time time

[Baka_Sousui]

She is one of the oldest members of fairy tail agreed , but for some time all she odes is sit in a bar and drink . Now u have to agree that she has to be out of cimmision for some time time

What do you mean by oldest?
Do you mean longest serving?
I'm assuming you're talking about Cana here.
If you're referring to age. Cana is 18. Erza and Mirajane is 19. Evergreen is 20. Visca, Lucky and Miki are 18 also. Lucy, Levi and Lisanna are 17.
That makes her mid-range in that age group. So she would have tried out for S-Class for the first time at the age of 14.

1st year - 14yo
2nd year - 15yo
3rd year - 16yo
4th year - 17yo
5th year - 18yo <-Current.

I'd say anything about her skills lacking due to alcohol will only be correct for the later years. Being selected at the age of 14 for S-class candidate is impressive in itself. Obviously there has been issues she's been dealing with saw her unable to pass the test all those times, and it's probably built up in pressure that made her go to the bottle, then the barrel.

[Unlucky Boy]

She is one of the oldest members of fairy tail agreed , but for some time all she odes is sit in a bar and drink . Now u have to agree that she has to be out of cimmision for some time time

And how do you think she got the money to spend on all this alcohol?

She isnt the one of the main characters so we dont get to see her going on jobs, but it doesnt mean she's sitting in the guild all the time.

Remember how in the war against Phantom Lord she took the lead of the defence force?

[Lord.Strife]

The only thing the current chapter did for me is make me wonder how strong is that black dragon who crushed gildartz in a second. I am also sort of dissapointed at the power gap. I am not sure if this manga will go well if it has another 300 or so chapters. Unless there is a time skip. And we all know the risks of a time skip.

[xErzaScarlet]

And how do you think she got the money to spend on all this alcohol?

She isnt the one of the main characters so we dont get to see her going on jobs, but it doesnt mean she's sitting in the guild all the time.

Remember how in the war against Phantom Lord she took the lead of the defence force?

Yeah , she has leadership qualities , she led the team into battle , giving the team motivation even though all of them are tired .
She might not be strong in magic , but she displays great qualities to cover for her mediocre level of magic .

[kkck]

http://www.cloudmanga.com/Fairy_Tail/201/#21
Wonder if the image of natsu crying here is from when he fought gildarts.. Can anyone image natrsu crying twice in an arc?

[ghostexiled]

^I believe you may be onto something there. Who says those 3 images have anything to do with each other?

They are most likely each a key event that happens in this arc.

The Natsu one is most likely what we just saw of him crying from his fight with Gildartz.

Good thinking there! :D

[Asmoden]

I don't think what we just saw is part of the premonition because Natsu have a completly different expression...

By the way, like in eldoras, the female cat can have simply put toghether parts of completly different visions and miss the big picture (like when she thought she had to kill wendy).

I wonder if what Alberona is wearing matches the premonition picture:oh

[kkck]

Well, cana was not actually wearing anything this chapter but I would think she is about to put on the clothes the premonition showed. I thought the image of natsu crying might not be exactly what was shown however it could also be a simple matter of an angle. Can't wait to see who else passed the exam.... All I know is that whoever fights mest is screwed right now unless mashima wanted to introduce a character for no reason. I still think levi will have to fight grey and grey will lose. Thinking about it, levi's ability allows her to turn her writting into what it means or represent right? All she has to do is spawn the words for iron and gazille would be able to maintain his stamina along with powering up his attacks. Gazille was already quite stronger than loki but under this conditions even with grey they might not be much of a match. In many ways, levi could end up being a perfect partner for a DS.

[matzik1212]

i liked this chapter :) you gotta love natsu LOL he can take advantage of every little situation he's been put into :)) i was pretty sad when i saw him actually admitting defeat in front of gildartz and him being scared it was something i thought i would never have the chance to see but i'm sure that he will get even stronger now and we will never see him again like that cause i like his idiotic and optimistic side way better :)

[Krono]

What do you mean by oldest?
Do you mean longest serving?
I'm assuming you're talking about Cana here.
If you're referring to age. Cana is 18. Erza and Mirajane is 19. Evergreen is 20. Visca, Lucky and Miki are 18 also. Lucy, Levi and Lisanna are 17.
That makes her mid-range in that age group. So she would have tried out for S-Class for the first time at the age of 14.

1st year - 14yo
2nd year - 15yo
3rd year - 16yo
4th year - 17yo
5th year - 18yo <-Current.

I'd say anything about her skills lacking due to alcohol will only be correct for the later years. Being selected at the age of 14 for S-class candidate is impressive in itself. Obviously there has been issues she's been dealing with saw her unable to pass the test all those times, and it's probably built up in pressure that made her go to the bottle, then the barrel.

If you go back to chapter 38 and read her profile, she's been drinking since age 13.

Other than that, as said she's the longest serving of the current generation in that she joined the guild before Gray did. Which does theoretical translate into most experienced of current generation as kids in Fairy Tail still have to go out on missions to earn money for food, and possibly for rent.


Well, cana was not actually wearing anything this chapter but I would think she is about to put on the clothes the premonition showed.

Actually, she was wearing pants this chapter. Most people just seem to have had their attention stolen by Cana's bust and Lucy's rear.

[Razh]

How come Gildartz isnt one of the top ten mages?

We don't know that they are top ten. I mean, there could have been a couple of mages who refused the "membership" in order to be more free.

[monkey D luffy]

well you cant really call them the strongest 10. gildarts is definetally stronger then gerard. gerard went down, i think that even with eatherion natsu wont be able to beat gildarts, the dude made him cry from fear!

[Razh]

well you cant really call them the strongest 10. gildarts is definetally stronger then gerard. gerard went down, i think that even with eatherion natsu wont be able to beat gildarts, the dude made him cry from fear!

He didn't cry from fear. The crying came after the explanation. The fear was over by then.

[Diablos]

Gazille was already quite stronger than loki but under this conditions even with grey they might not be much of a match. In many ways, levi could end up being a perfect partner for a DS.

Don't forget that the early Loki was powerless due to him being too much time in real world and without a master I don't think Loki after being taken by Lucy is that weak, it actually seems to have quite the agility and power. But I wouldnt underestimate Levy we have yet to see her true potencial imo XD I believe that if those two teams meet up we're up for some really interesting match

[VashDaStampede]

I can't believe he shut Natsu down just by the sheer force of his magical power. Hyperactive, quick to fight Natsu...that's major power.

[ghostexiled]

Please stop posting off topic...

Posting whether or not a character looks like another character from a different manga, is not the purpose of this thread and is completely off topic.

Please only post about Fairy Tail the manga (not anime) in this thread. Also, please only post if you have something constructive to say about the past chapter and predictions for the next.

Thanks!

[xErzaScarlet]

If next week is called Mest , it means hes gonna face someone , so either Levy or Gray would run into him .
but i think it will be Levy .
Steel Dragon Slayer VS Sky Dragon slayer
This would be cool . But Wendy is toooooo cute to lose ~~~
And where did steel dragon's cat go ?

[ghostexiled]

^since he is considered an actual member of the guild and was not chosen by one of the candidates, I am assume he is back at the Guild.

Same as Charlie.

Remember that Happy was chosen as Natsu's partner.

[OldSkOoL]

I get the feeling That Gazille and Levy will make it to the next round at least. He's doing this to make it up to her, be kinda lame on his behalf if they didnt make it to the next round

[Yashie]

I get the feeling That Gazille and Levy will make it to the next round at least. He's doing this to make it up to her, be kinda lame on his behalf if they didnt make it to the next round

Not necessarily. It's the sentiment that counts

[kkck]

For me it would be kinda anticlimatic to remove gazille and levi from the test. He is a DS and it would serve no purpose to the plot. I feel it would make more sense for gazille to remain in the competition than grey at this stage. I think gazille should at least make it to the next round. Grey being defeated would at least serve some purpose. Lucy would get her spirit back and loki would be extra pumped to help to redeem himself from not taking grey very far into the competition.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

It was really great chapter. Gildartz is amasing with his real power. And especially I liked the way how he let Natsu to next round. It was one of the best chapters of Fairy Tail recently.

[elitefox]

I guess this chapter recovered the last disappointment :D

This is how a S-class should be,

S-class seems have degraded from erza's participation in her current group since always the one ended up beaten but she handles 50% to 80% of the job though. and Natsu finishing the boss.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

After seeing all the S class mages and the candidates for the title I can't understand who can be new S class exept Natsu and maybe Mistgun's desciple, cause we didn't see him in action. I also can't understand how Levy can be in this. She clearly is in other league. She isn't even in middle tier of A class.

[Riyuki]

^ Dude all we have seen from Levi so far is her rewriting Fried's overpowered runes that not even the master was able to undo during the laxus arc. We seriously know pretty much nothing of Levi... who knows.. her power could mix extremely well with Gazille (ironic much? if true) and they could become a force to be reckoned with... just to get beat later by Mest, of course.

Theres something about Levi/Gazille vs. Mest/Wendy that sounds too good to be true. It will happen.. and theres no one better to test out unknown strength (Mest) with than Gazille.

[senewe]

My prediction Mest is in Empty route. Maybe He will tell his story to Wendy while walking in the unobstructed path.

Levi and Gazile vs Gray and Loki, Levi and Gazile win, so Lucy can summon Loki in her next fight.

[Zeltrax]

Aha, gildart is sooooo shanks.
This chapter made up for the over-fanservice, I always wanted natsu to lose.
But this kind of loss was unexpected, even for him. Although, he'll obvious go back to being carefree and using brute force even after what Gildart said.
I mean, he had been doing that style of fighting for 200 over chapters.
Time for an upgrade, time for an upgrade!
To be frank..65 pages is kind of..wow. I didn't think the author could keep that up.
Am I the only one looking forward to what Gray is up to? He hasn't had a decent one on one fight since Phantom lord, that was one of the best one by far imo.
The one against the owl was just funny.
I hope he doesn't get wasted off..again. Next chapter will probably be Mest and Mystogan flashback, and Mest will say that he will carry Mystogan will or be the next Mystogan.
Which means, we will inevitably see that face again.
Sigh..whatever.
Nice chapter overall and power levels weren't set too high with Natsu at least hurting Gildart.

[Bobbina]

Well, Natsu did lose, but he still passed. Um.... the owl wasn't Phantom Lord. That was the Tower of Paradise. If that's what you mean. And actually, I think the best fight was against Leon. Leon was his rival, his superior. Plus he managed to help and prove Ur. Plus his fight with Racer was pretty good. And yeah, I wanna know whats gonna happen to Gray

[elitefox]

I wonder if Gildartz is really not holding back

his magics was defensive, if he use that much magic force... he could have obliterated natsu in the beginning... what I mean, he is using his minimal magic force to cast magic

[CannedJam]

I'm hoping this wasn't said yet, but wouldn't Gazille losing be better than gray losing? Mest defeating Levy and Gazille would be a true example of his stength. That and Gray needs a good fight that he ends up winning. I don't see him beating Mest and Wendy.

[Drakk707]

No, Gray as a one of the main characters have had multiple opportunities to shine, show character development and win seemingly impossible battles before while Levi hasn't fought even once and Gazille has never properly won a fight (Helping Natsu win doesn't counts) they deserve a chance to remain in the competition more than Gray.

[Baka_Sousui]

I think that Grey will stay in because he's a "main" character has a flawed logic.
Erza is a "main character as much as Gray is. Her appearance in this arc whilst important, does not seem to indicate she'll play a big role beyond the first round of this arc. I feel it's the same for Grey. His importance in terms of story for this arc has little priority.

[kkck]

I think the main issue is that grey's permanence in the test would be detrimental to lucy. If grey loses lucy (who is bound to have a big role in the arc) gets one of her stronger spirits back.

[Riyuki]

I dont care I want Grey to win. He's one of my fav characters and I was happy when I saw him as one of the 8 people for S-Class. I know its impossible for both grey and gazille to move forward.. and I like them both... but I just dont want Grey to lose this early :(..

[Asmoden]

I dont care I want Grey to win. He's one of my fav characters and I was happy when I saw him as one of the 8 people for S-Class. I know its impossible for both grey and gazille to move forward.. and I like them both... but I just dont want Grey to lose this early :(..

I'm sorry but Grey is the only one i can see lose.
But well who know... since today the plot was never predictable so maybe we will see some big twist.

I wonder how Wendy will help.

Hope the three chapter big release will come out soon:eyeroll

[kkck]

Unfortunately grey lost his main character position a while ago.

It goes like this:

1.-Natsu (main character)
2.-Lucy (usually narrator, related to the dragons through her mother, has more character development that either grey or erza IMO)
3.-erza
4.-Gazille-wendy
5.-Lucy's stellar spirtits
6.-.....
7.-.....
8.-.....
9.-grey

Dunno, I just get the impression he gets progressively less relevant as the plot goes on while in turn natsu, erza and lucy maintain the same level of relevance to plot through the series.

[Kuzumikun]

can't wait for the next one!!! C:
i want to see levi fight and also mest!

[hr]

^ Dude all we have seen from Levi so far is her rewriting Fried's overpowered runes that not even the master was able to undo during the laxus arc. We seriously know pretty much nothing of Levi... who knows.. her power could mix extremely well with Gazille (ironic much? if true) and they could become a force to be reckoned with... just to get beat later by Mest, of course.

Theres something about Levi/Gazille vs. Mest/Wendy that sounds too good to be true. It will happen.. and theres no one better to test out unknown strength (Mest) with than Gazille.

yeah i but for me i think levi and gazille are ganna end up getting the quiet path while it might be gray vs juvia -and mayb juvia will loose to let gray pass- and mest vs erza cuz i don't see him fighting mira

[Krono]

Unfortunately grey lost his main character position a while ago.

It goes like this:

1.-Natsu (main character)
2.-Lucy (usually narrator, related to the dragons through her mother, has more character development that either grey or erza IMO)
3.-erza
4.-Gazille-wendy
5.-Lucy's stellar spirtits
6.-.....
7.-.....
8.-.....
9.-grey

Dunno, I just get the impression he gets progressively less relevant as the plot goes on while in turn natsu, erza and lucy maintain the same level of relevance to plot through the series.

I wouldn't quite say he's lost his main character position yet. He still gets in every arc. He has become rather less relevant though. He really needs to meet Urtear and learn that his teacher's daughter is still alive, and working for evil. Otherwise he doesn't have a long term goal to push him to get stronger, doesn't have any lingering issues to settle, and is kinda in the same position Let was in later on in Rave Master.


yeah i but for me i think levi and gazille are ganna end up getting the quiet path while it might be gray vs juvia -and mayb juvia will loose to let gray pass- and mest vs erza cuz i don't see him fighting mira

Umm, we already know that Juvia is fighting Erza, and Elfman is fighting Mirajane. Levi's team, Gray's team, and Mest's team are the only ones we don't know what path they got. One team will get the quiet path, and the other two teams will fight each other.

[Riyuki]

I understand Grey is the most likely to lose but I still want him to win anyways ;D

I think it would be better to show just how powerful Mest really is and show him completely dominate Gazille... that would totally make Mest seem more higher ranked if he kicks a dragon slayers ass. I like Gazille a lot though, but I still think this would be better for the story.


Mest beating Grey -> "Oh man Mest is quite strong"
Mest beating Gazille -> "Damn... I totally thought for sure Gazille would make it to round 2"

[Bobbina]

"Unfortunately grey lost his main character position a while ago.

It goes like this:

1.-Natsu (main character)
2.-Lucy (usually narrator, related to the dragons through her mother, has more character development that either grey or erza IMO)
3.-erza
4.-Gazille-wendy
5.-Lucy's stellar spirtits
6.-.....
7.-.....
8.-.....
9.-grey

Dunno, I just get the impression he gets progressively less relevant as the plot goes on while in turn natsu, erza and lucy maintain the same level of relevance to plot through the series."
HEY WAIT A SECOND. Where is HAPPY? I mean.... he can't help Natsu much, but he's of significant importance and is bound to progress in the future. And I don't think Gazille and Wendy are that much more important, neither are Lucy's spirits. Grey is Natsu's rival, and Grey is also involved with Natsu's last battle. (Besides in the Luxus arc.) Probably not the spirits, as we don't see them as much as Grey, and I don't think we will. Nor are they tied with the protagonist, as Grey is.

[ghostexiled]

Guys, lets please get back on track with discussing the actual chapter and predictions. There is already a thread for ranking characters.

Thanks!

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Hmm, I think the people that may pass because they have something on the line, will be Natsu (to see Igneel), Cana (to see that person), Mest (he was close last time), and Levy (ok she doesn't have anything on the line, I just wanna see her win so she can go nuts for Gajeel^^). Gray, I don't see him passing, and Elfman, sorry manly chad, your sister is way more manlier than you will ever hope to be. Juvia, I'm 50/50 with her.

[Aikidoka]

I feel like Levy is nothing impressive next to everyone else, but at the same time she's being underestimated. Remember that arc in the beginning where Natsu fought Virgo? He also fought the assassins, one of which talked about how most mages are physically weak and their only strong point is magic. Levy is one of these mages IMO, only good at her magic and below average in everything else.

[deffkryz]

I think Mashima is going to present us Grey/Loki vs. Levy/Gajeel (and makes G/L lose, so Lucy is allowed to use Loki in the next round) while Mest/Wendy will have the calm route.

On the other hand, I can see G/L also lose against M/W... But I don't think Mashima will make one of the Dragon Slayer being thrown out of the tournament - which is probably why none of them but Natsu had to fight against an S class mage.

Anyhow... it's three chapters this week, wasn't it. Enough space for either great fights or the possible start of the next round.

[takarita]

And Just now we have already the 207 chapter on Mangastream

[Nonlife]

Does anyone know if Hiro is going on break for a while, since we're getting three chapters worth in this chapter?