Fairy Tail 207 - 209 Discussion/ 210 Predictions

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[xErzaScarlet]

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31143840/1
one chapter is out .

[Krono]

Does anyone know if Hiro is going on break for a while, since we're getting three chapters worth in this chapter?

If he was going on break for a while, we wouldn't be getting three chapters at once, they'd run the chapters 1 by 1 while he was gone.

[Zatono]

Holy crap? From the looks of it, Mest somehow manipulated EVERYONES thoughts and inserted himself into their memories. Holy hot damn, another antagonist for this arc?

I thought Mr. Death Touch would be enough but...this arc looks like it's going to be unexpectedly more badass then I thought.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Oh boy, I knew something was fishy about that guy. I knew it. I simply knew it.

What does he want with Wendy anyway? Her cure spells? Her boosting spells?

Oh boy this is bound to get interesting.

What did Elfman and Evergreen do to win against Mira XD

[Baka_Sousui]

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31143840/1
one chapter is out .

So Mest might not be a part of Fairy Tail. He's searching for something on the island. I have a feeling the Master or one of the S-Class mages already know something is up. Mest has some sort of memory altering magic it seems.

Also I was correct about Gray being in a "battle". But I guess because Mest being there for ulterior motives meant he didn't care about winning. Which changed things up a bit. Is that Death magic guy still making an appearance in this arc? Seems we have a different foe to go up against.

[xErzaScarlet]

Mest looks so stupid lol . and dont touch my wendy !!!

[eclipse12]

My guess is that mest is apart of griomoire heart and is after one of the keys to unseal Zeref. Also i guess the original fairy tail guild master was one of the ones that sealed Zeref in the first place. He most likely put himself into a deep sleep so that when someone wanted the key they would wake him and then they would have to fight him for it.

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[xErzaScarlet]

Mest is very bad . Wendy is such a good girl , how can he do that to Wendy ?
Anyway , Charle is up to save her . Charle will carry her and while the brown cat would fight with Mest .
But so far , we dont know about Mest strength .
And Mashima said he'll release 3 chapters . I think there will be another , later today and 1 tomorrow .

[Krono]

So Mest might not be a part of Fairy Tail. He's searching for something on the island. I have a feeling the Master or one of the S-Class mages already know something is up. Mest has some sort of memory altering magic it seems.

He almost certainly isn't part of Fairy Tail. Besides that everyone's memories of him seem entirely made up, and that he's deliberately manipulating Wendy, he called Wendy by the same title as Brain did back in 202, and like Brain he's an outsider that knows of Wendy's connection to Gerard/Mystogan.

[ghostexiled]

The other 2 chapters will be out steadily later on this weekend... Mangastream just wanted to get the first one out now.

[xErzaScarlet]

Oh , i get what you mean . So Mest has the power to manipulate every one , but inserting memories into their brains , thinking that they all know Mest .
Geez , i got cheated too ~

[Lectro Volpi]

Well... blow me down and bury me alive! I was wrong in everything!

I'm glad that Elfman and Evergreen passed, whatever the means they used (maybe he cried?).

Maybe Mest is from one of the 2 or 3 remaining Dark Guilds (Tartaros, Grimoire Heart or Raven Tail)?

Ah! look, it's Heart Kreuz.

[xErzaScarlet]

i think hes brain ? or the stick , that brain is holding . or from Raven Tail , ivan called him to get something .
As someone said , he might be needing a dragon to help him to open the key , but steel and natsu isnt that innocent and naive to help him , so he went to get wendy.

[OldSkOoL]

Crazy, it seemed to obvious but so well disguised by Mashima that Mest was a probably antoginist. Panther Lily did well in figuring it out, as soon as he said that Mystogan made so much effort to not be seen that's when I realised how obvious it was also.

Looking forward to the next two chapters and I'm so glad Fairy Tail is back.

[Barayosei]

Wow, I didn't really expect that, but it's a nice twist. Seems like Panther Lily figured it out a bit too late though. Totally random but the Cats could form their own team for missions don't you think? Also Gray seems a bit interested how Juvia did. And I totally want to know how Elfman beat Mirajane (lol he sooo probably did cry).

As for predictions, the death guy isn't going to be against Fairy Tail, he's going to totally end up helping the gang fight Mest. Death guy didn't strike me as evil when we first saw him so I wasn't really sure how he'd end up fighting them anyway. I actually thought that he was probably going to accidentally hurt someone with his powers, but the new development makes way more sense. I'm guessing he's going to end up helping Fairy Tail fight Mest.

[Drakk707]

...There are just 2 words with wich I can describe how I feel about this chapter:

(UTTER) DISSAPOINTMENT:...My literal reaction after getting to know Mest's personality was this (http://craigswinejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/facepalm.jpg), but then I told myself he is just another Fairy Tail freak and that if he can makes up for his weirdness with prowess on the battlefield he's just fine...Now this (http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facepalm.jpg) is me after Grey and Loki beat Mest's ass in an instant. I mean What the...?...like really just What the...?...You know what? We brought this uppon ourselves for overhyping Mest for no real reason so shame on us but really after his performance during this chapter I don't care if in reality he's Zeref reincarnate I will never be able to take him seriously; Heck I'm not even sure if he's really evil after that laaaame attempt of a wicked grin at the end of the chapter, wich probably was the most idiotic face he has done (Oh and he did quite a lot of them).

JOY: YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NOBODY, I say, NOBODY (but me) believed Elfman (with the help of Evergreen) would made it YET HE DID! How? Now that's a good question, only thing I could think about when Evergreen mentioned they managed to strike Mira in a split-second opening was Elfman showing her his...u///u with Evergreen attacking as soon as Mira looked away. They sure took one hell of a beating yet they made it! Not only that but they beat her! Mira! First team to actually beat an S-Class mage HA! Go Elfman!

No matter how hard we try to foreshadow future events in Fairy Tail Mashima always finds a way to surprise us. Bra-vo.

EDIT: Btw Who is the girl on the yellow dress in the color double?

[LoS]

(UTTER) DISSAPOINTMENT:..

The very first page completely ruined the chapter for me. I was so pissed and disappointed to see Charle show up. Just ruined the plot for me.



Now this (http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facepalm.jpg) is me after Grey and Loki beat Mest's ass in an instant. I mean What the...?...like really just What the...?...You know what? We brought this uppon ourselves for overhyping Mest for no real reason so shame on us.

The sad thing is I knew he was too much an integral part of this arc to be done away with just then. I instantly knew he went easy on Grey and Loki. I didn't instantly guess the sinister plot though, but knew he went easy. Overhyping was justified, he will certainly be strong and strategically sound in evil machinations. The guy had a chapter named after him, so you should have known he would impact the storyline some more down the road.


NOBODY (but me) believed Elfman (with the help of Evergreen) would made it YET HE DID! How?.

I am really disappointed by this as well. The dude is weak, just get him out of the picture already. His only purpose now is to serve as a comedic device in another chapter when they reveal how he managed to get past Mira. Just look at the shape he is in, the guy can't even pull his own weight. I am sure if there is a 3rd stage to the exam he wouldn't be able to get to it.

What also completely sucks is that after chapter 209 I will be impatiently waiting to the upteenth degree. I mean just how awesome is it going to be when "Black Mage" is finally revealed?

[Horologium]

his smile reminds me of angel's smile, the one from the oracion seis arc. hahaha, just saying.

[Krono]

(UTTER) DISSAPOINTMENT:...My literal reaction after getting to know Mest's personality was this (http://craigswinejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/facepalm.jpg), but then I told myself he is just another Fairy Tail freak and that if he can makes up for his weirdness with prowess on the battlefield he's just fine...Now this (http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facepalm.jpg) is me after Grey and Loki beat Mest's ass in an instant. I mean What the...?...like really just What the...?...You know what? We brought this uppon ourselves for overhyping Mest for no real reason so shame on us but really after his performance during this chapter I don't care if in reality he's Zeref reincarnate I will never be able to take him seriously; Heck I'm not even sure if he's really evil after that laaaame attempt of a wicked grin at the end of the chapter, wich probably was the most idiotic face he has done (Oh and he did quite a lot of them).

It's probably a 90+% chance he's evil. His story about being Mystogan's apprentice doesn't add up, the other guild members memories about him are hazy things that are devoid of detail and simply stop at some point, he called Wendy something that only Brain has called her, and is clearly manipulating her into helping him.

He also almost certainly threw the fight with Gray and Loki to get free to search the island for the secret, and his "personality" was probably an act to help lower Wendy's guard.


EDIT: Btw Who is the girl on the yellow dress in the color double?

Kana.

[CannedJam]

I loved 207. It didn't go EXACTLY how anybody wanted it to. That's a good thing. Gray won too O_O. If anything, that victory just made me excited to reach the end of the chapter because Mest went down too easy. Good to know he really isn't a "good guy", but at least he's funny.

[kkck]

Ok, mashima pulled one on us. He did exactly what everyone thought he wouldn't do and added a twist to mest.
Who in the world is mest? From what I can tell he lost on purpose to be alone with wendy. The question would be why he needs wendy? Her magic is special even by DS standards, that much we know, but what purpose could she possibly serve? Or perhaps he does not need wendy specifically but rather a FT member he can fool. He has to be extremely powerful if he implanted memories into every member of FT and got himself to be considered to the s-class exam though.

I did not expect elfman to win and jubia to lose though. I would have thought she would have managed a win here or at least push erza enough for her to allow her to pass. I am kinda disappointed that she and lissana got taken out so early. How in the world did elfman win? Perhaps mira was turned into stone?

[Newkerzy]

What also completely sucks is that after chapter 209 I will be impatiently waiting to the upteenth degree. I mean just how awesome is it going to be when "Black Mage" is finally revealed?

Willing to bet 50 bucks that "Black mage" is Death guy AND is the black dragonslayer. Like Wendy, his magic is considered special by DS standards. Which is why I guessed from the start that he's the Black DS.

BTW, Lucy's dress in the color double is awesome!!

[LoS]

Who in the world is mest?
From what I can tell he lost on purpose to be alone with wendy.

I'd say it is 100% safe to assume he lost on purpose.


The question would be why he needs wendy?
Or perhaps he does not need wendy specifically but rather a FT member he can fool.

If he just needed any Fairy Tail member to serve as a hostage he would not have chosen her, instead he specifically needs Wendy and what she and her powers bring to the table.


He has to be extremely powerful if he implanted memories into every member of FT and got himself to be considered to the s-class exam though.

Once again, I would say it is 100% safe to assume he is very very strong.

I am guessing that along with the spirit and whatever residual residue of the Founder is left over is concealing a truly powerful sinister magic that it is responsible for sealing away. Mest is after that.


Willing to bet 50 bucks that "Black mage" is Death guy AND is the black dragonslayer. Like Wendy, his magic is considered special by DS standards. Which is why I guessed from the start that he's the Black DS.

I would actually be disappointed if he was the Black Dragon Slayer. That would have been incredibly obvious, almost like, hey here is this guy who has death/black magic who also has a history with Natsu, lets just bank on him being the Black Dragon's apprentice. It just all fits too nicely, I would rather have some twist/surprise. Because, that would have been a mystery revealed like 10 chapters prior to his official introduction.

[ghostexiled]

I have a feeling that Wendy is needed to compliment the "Death Mage"... since her powers can be considered "Life" magic.

Having both, forming some kinda yin and yang deal... will unlock the seal or whatever Mest is after.

[LoS]

Having both, forming some kinda yin and yang deal... will unlock the seal or whatever Mest is after.

Are you trying to tell me Mest knows that the Black Mage is already on the island, or that he implanted him there even? That is pretty hard to believe.

[ghostexiled]

I am not saying that Mest is responsible for the "Death Mage", but is aware of him and his abilities.

Could be that the Death Mage is some what a guardian of the resting place of the Fairy Tail creator(who holds this great power)... and the only one that can withstand his "powers" is Wendy.

It is not so hard for Mest to know about the Death Mage, if he is already aware of the "Great Power" that rests there.

He has to be informed more beyond just... the magical hidden island has great power on it. The Shounen villains are (almost) ALWAYS more informed about these type of things than we think they are.

Just theories...

[LoS]

But all you just said is entirely dependent on the Black Mage being a permanent resident of that island. I don't know if that is true or not, it sort of seemed like he had just arrived at the island when we first saw him.

[ghostexiled]

Very true...

But the question would be why would he not be on the island? What is the point of introducing a character and then not have him be apart of the arc?

Besides, the Life and Death theme is really creeping up as a possibility with Wendy's obvious inclusion in the current story.

The bigger question for me is, what relationship does he have with Natsu?

I could be totally off... just a feeling I have about these things. :)

I have a feeling that if there will be a death in this arc... it will be Mest and the Death Mage.

[ahoyxouran]

Yay ! Team ElfmanxEvergreen really beats a S class mage !
And Gray may worry for Jubia *just fangirling :p*

[Lyn685]

I knew Mashima would throw Lysanna into the corner, like many other characters... but so soon?

[Ero-Sanji]

Mest is the best!

Really, I just love this kind of things. I'm quite sure no one thought of him as a bad guy, yet, here we are. But I wouldn't really count him in as a villain yet, who knows in the future he might become the substitute for Mystogan. The guild needs a more psycho-oriented type and Mest might be it.

I'm still a little dissapointed at Makarov, he of all should have noticed that something was a little strange, that implies us too. We had never seen that guy before yet most of us took his membership for a fact.

[LoS]

Team ElfmanxEvergreen really beats a S class mage !

I think for now you should be very cautious how you term "beats" there was certainly some very shady business in how that pair was able to get past Mira.


I'm still a little dissapointed at Makarov, he of all should have noticed that something was a little strange, that implies us too. We had never seen that guy before yet most of us took his membership for a fact.

What is to say he has not? Remember he has been paying close attention to these candidates for the past year. He could have a hunch as to Mest being a facade and is using the test to reveal his true identity and character.

[Unlucky Boy]

Charle's vision + last chapter make us think that this new life absorbing guy is going to "kill" some fairy girl.

I call it from now, this guy has nothing to do with it. He'll actually be a good guy that seeks help to get rid of his curse or whatever.

What I wish to happen is that that Mest guy would be the real culprit, he could go crazy or be a double agent for Ivan or have some grudge that is somehow related to Cana. That would really make things more interesting.

(That's from chapter 201 discussion thread! yay me!)

I still think Mest works for Ivan. Remember how Makarov was freaked out over some secret regarding the guild Ivan left with? Seems like Mest knows about that secret.

I really enjoyed the chapter. Mashima is really doing his best to counter any of our predictions every week. Mest's memory magic is so cool!

[Evil3ye]

Natsu, Grey, Kana, Levi, Elfman to become S class in the second round heh? I didnt see that coming at all...

was pretty sure Elfman and Natsu to be kicked out and Lluvia and Mest make it instead..

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[LoS]

Natsu, Grey, Kana, Levi, Elfman to become S class in the second round heh?

They still have to pass the 2nd phase of the test. And who knows there could even be a third phase as well. My guess is that Natsu, Kana, and Levi move on if the 2nd phase is allowed to be completed. But, I really doubt if there is a 3rd phase it will actually be completed, because that would be many more chapters down the road and Mashima can only hold back having the Dark Mage and Mest intertwine with the test, either causing a ruckus or actually helping.

[xErzaScarlet]

yeah, makarov is quite funny , he was like , the female knight wont give any leeway to anyone !!!
well , thats sad . i was expecting juvia to get on instead of elfman .

[dapredator]

What is to say he has not? Remember he has been paying close attention to these candidates for the past year. He could have a hunch as to Mest being a facade and is using the test to reveal his true identity and character.

ya but you have to remember he could also have been affected with Mest's super strong memory magic. So he may know about Mest not being a part of FT or he could. Remember Mystogan went into the guild to pick up a new job way back when and he put everyone to sleep, it took a lot of effort for the Master to even know it was Mystogan and actually say something to him. Who's not to say Mest has that kind of power to really manipulate everyone including the Master?? If mystogan, who we knew little about back then, could do it im sure Mest could and did as well.

As far as Mest knowing about the DM, theres really nothing that says he does or doesnt. Maybe he doesnt and really wants to find this super secret about FT. and if he does youre probably right about him chosing wendy to help him counter the DM's magic. Wendy is more of a support type mage after all.

as far as the people who passed the first exam, I knew Natsu was going to pass, sorta had a feeling it was exactly like he did. Learning some sort of life lesson. Mira and Erza are the only 2 S-class mages i felt could be beaten. Laxus, Mysto, and Gildartz were the only ones I felt couldnt and wouldnt lose. Just disappointed lluvia lost. I was hoping for her to win and then somehow Grey would acknowledge her and her feelings.

Finally, Lilly and Charle showing up, I expected Charle but not Lilly and especially not him figuring out about Mest so quickly. My only concern is why couldnt he figured it out sooner?

Mashima is making this really interesting :)
[hr]

... Mashima can only hold back having the Dark Mage and Mest intertwine with the test, either causing a ruckus or actually helping.

Idk where you guys are getting the impression that the dark mage is actually on the island.. he's near some river and kills a bunch of trees, but knowing that much i wouldnt think he really is on the island.

If he is, I'm assuming he has some sort of future telling abilities like Charle and he is forseeing him and Natsu fighting or teaming up with him? maybe he knows Igneel's where abouts and needs to tell Natsu.

[Rowel]

Really good chapter.

Glad to see Gray and Loki moving foward, as well as Elfman and Evergreen.

The Master's face when talking about Erza's inability to hold back was pricless.

God i hate you Erza

Aside from that looking forward to next 2 chapters. :D

[xErzaScarlet]

hey dont hate me .
i think dragon slayer magic is needed to unseal some powerful magic on the island , since its a "fairy tail" island .
there must be something unrevealed .
those who knows about it are possibly makarov and ivan .
and ivan has been kicked out because he is threat to guild .
so i suppose mest is someone who is sent by ivan .

[Asmoden]

The only one who really deserved to pass the firt stage was Natsu because all the others somehow cheated:

_Elfman used his being mira brother to pass
_gray diden't fight a real battle
_Kana like gray was let pass by her enemies
_levy got the quiet route

I wonder if Mest is a real enemy... maybe he isen't :oh

[saladesu]

Nice twist there from Mashima-sensei on Mest. I was expecting the main antagonist to be that dude who knew Natsu, but now it seems they could be accomplices or something else.

Mest is definitely very strong if he's even got Makarov fooled (or maybe he doesn't).

If Charle had all these precognitions and bad feelings she should have voiced them earlier. Panther Lily seems to have his own suspicions as well, and if they'd talked about it earlier they could probably have alerted someone, no?

And I didn't like that Elfman made it through just like that. We finally get to see some Mirajane action... Except that we don't :/

[Bowser]

Hmm...Mest has magic to do with memory maybe? I don't really like him tbh, he's a bit too strange. I can't tell if he's strong or weak. Then again thats probably the whole point.

[iamtenninja]

Nice twist there from Mashima-sensei on Mest. I was expecting the main antagonist to be that dude who knew Natsu, but now it seems they could be accomplices or something else.

Mest is definitely very strong if he's even got Makarov fooled (or maybe he doesn't).

If Charle had all these precognitions and bad feelings she should have voiced them earlier. Panther Lily seems to have his own suspicions as well, and if they'd talked about it earlier they could probably have alerted someone, no?

And I didn't like that Elfman made it through just like that. We finally get to see some Mirajane action... Except that we don't :/

Mest is very vague in power level imo. If he really is going to turn into an antagonist then we can at least presume there's going to be another fight with him where he's not going to get rolled over so easily. He's probably holding back :P

Panther Lily brings up a good point; Mystogan rarely made connections to other people. However (as stated earlier) Brain knew of Wendy's connection to Gerard aka Mystogan yet he was an outsider of FT. With Mest's "deception", it's really starting to look like Mystogan wasn't as stealthy as he thought he was. I'm not sure where this is leading at the moment so I'll keep a conservative view.

I didn't like how Juvia lost but it's I can easily get over. Elfman might get more action scenes later, he definitely needs more screen time.


Hmm...Mest has magic to do with memory maybe? I don't really like him tbh, he's a bit too strange. I can't tell if he's strong or weak. Then again thats probably the whole point.

Mest's strength might not lie in his combat abilities but rather magic ability which seems to be memory alterations. Also he's probably using Wendy as a hostage which leads me to think he's not looking for fights.

[Evil3ye]

The only one who really deserved to pass the firt stage was Natsu because all the others somehow cheated:

_Elfman used his being mira brother to pass
_gray diden't fight a real battle
_Kana like gray was let pass by her enemies
_levy got the quiet route

I wonder if Mest is a real enemy... maybe he isen't :ohmeh. Natsus win was kinda cheap too. I can understand why he's mad that Gildarz let him pass. I'm unhappy that all of the qualified mages kinda won easy or cheap. Don't want any of them to become S class to be honest.

[Draco1988]

Lol I know that Mest is too good looking to be true. Thanks goodness he turns out to be a weirdo, a bad one that is.
And his smile at the end of the chapter, seems more pervert than evil
Pedo alert

[Riyuki]

Natsu is the only one who should pass IMO
I'm super happy Grey made it through though ;)!!

[LoS]

Idk where you guys are getting the impression that the dark mage is actually on the island.. he's near some river and kills a bunch of trees, but knowing that much i wouldnt think he really is on the island.

Maybe the fact that the Island is called heavenly Wolf Island, and lo and behold the first thing he did when we saw him was kill Wolves. Coincidence, I think not.


maybe he knows Igneel's where abouts and needs to tell Natsu.

Who knows his connection with Natsu, but I doubt he actually knows where Igneel has hidden himself away from humanity.

[Curryman]

I think Mest is going to kill Wendy...but she will be revived somehow.

I can't wait to find out what this big secret is about this island. We need to find out more background on the first fairy tail master as well.

[LoS]

We need to find out more background on the first fairy tail master as well.

Just the name alone gives us a little bit of a description. Mavis Vermillion could allude to the fact that he/she(I am going for a female just to spice things up) decided on a Fairy/flying creature. Because Mavis is a small bird. And it could allude to her having red hair, or that the Fairy tattoo can be red, since Vermillion is a red pigment.

the really interesting bit is this part, Mavis could also refer to an obese Fairy who is incapable of actually flying. It is from a children's story.

It would be funny to see some fat redheaded woman actually be the founder.

[wooticus]

i also agree with mavis vermillion gonna be female and that by sleeping it is stated that she certainly isn't dead.

maybe zeref was sealed into mavis vermillion. two persons in one body, the good and the evil and mavis put herself into eternal sleep to seal away zeref. just a wild guess.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

The next few chapters may reveal the vision of Charle where there's an arm falling to the ground. It'll probably be Mest dying by the death mage. I hope that happens, I hate that bastard>.>.

[kkck]

I just had a though. The island is a secret haven for fairy tail of sorts. In that sense, whatever is there is also likely to be a secret kept by FT members. Then, why would mest want anything there or even know what exactly is hidden there? Going to that island serves no purpose unless he knows something about the place to begin with. I think mest is a mage send by raven tail to get something from the island. Luxus's dad is extremely likely to know a lot about the place and if there is something valuable there then he is likely to do everything in his power to get it. We might have more than one plot and more than one bad guy in this arc.

[LoS]

I think mest is a mage send by raven tail to get something from the island. Luxus's dad is extremely likely to know a lot about the place and if there is something valuable there then he is likely to do everything in his power to get it. We might have more than one plot and more than one bad guy in this arc.

I think you are the 3rd person to say this already in the thread.

Personally I hope he isn't, but I can't see some rogue solo mage doing this all on his own. He has to have some connections, and this would be as good of an transition into the Raventail-Ivan confrontation arc. That or Ivan harming Luxus when he seeks out his father.

Cant wait to see the destined Gildartz vs. Ivan showdown by the way.

[kkck]

Guyz .... i just found the time to read the manga , i read 207 , but 208 and 209 were not available on Mangastream / cloudmanga . I tried the links given in original post and they were pretty much useless it seems .

Can someone link me to 208 and 209 plz

They are not out yet nor have there been news of the exact release date. We just have to wait for the raws to be released.


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man, didn't know 3 people had already suggested a connection to ivan lol. I guess it is to be expected considering the only possible future enemies we know of that might be involved in this are grimmoire heart(which is also related to zeref), tartarus and raven tail. If it is not one of them then it has to be an entirely new enemy for the most part.

[LoS]

They are not out yet nor have there been news of the exact release date. We just have to wait for the raws to be released.

I am guessing since there are 3 chapters and they said they would release them over the weekend, we should expect one chapter per day. So we can probably expect 208 to be released today, and 209 on Sunday.


man, didn't know 3 people had already suggested a connection to ivan lol. I guess it is to be expected considering the only possible future enemies we know of that might be involved in this are grimmoire heart(which is also related to zeref), tartarus and raven tail. If it is not one of them then it has to be an entirely new enemy for the most part.

Yeah, thats why I can't see him being a lone ranger. I would prefer some new entity, but he has to serve as a tool for a transition into an arc confronting the dark guilds.

[Bhoot]

My simple question is , while i can accept him being strong enough to make fake memories in Lucy , Gray , Natsu etc. etc . , but how come he was strong engh to even invade the minds of Marakov and Gildartz [or maybe they let him in on purpose and will hunt him down like a dog , or maybe his evil gring is to push Wendy in the water as a small prank .]

[kkck]

Maybe it was not him exactly that faked the memories? It could be the work of a force behind him. A extremely powerful mage faking memories on that many people is possible. Then again, the memories are not particularly complete, rather they are the bare minimum required to get into the test and not arouse suspicion provided no one really looked into it. It seems like a rather sloppy job to some extent. In that sense, perhaps he did it himself in a haste. As for a possible mechanism to implant memories.... I think I got one. It could use the computer magic thing that was shown a couple of arcs back. If I recall, that magic was used to upload and download information and communicate with others. It is very possible it could be used to fake memories.

[JA1024]

elfman and evergreen probably kissed after finding out they couldnt beat mira then mira just went white
so they escaped

[Bhoot]

Maybe it was not him exactly that faked the memories? It could be the work of a force behind him. A extremely powerful mage faking memories on that many people is possible. Then again, the memories are not particularly complete, rather they are the bare minimum required to get into the test and not arouse suspicion provided no one really looked into it. It seems like a rather sloppy job to some extent. In that sense, perhaps he did it himself in a haste. As for a possible mechanism to implant memories.... I think I got one. It could use the computer magic thing that was shown a couple of arcs back. If I recall, that magic was used to upload and download information and communicate with others. It is very possible it could be used to fake memories.
u mean Archive magic??

uhm , i thought it required the ppls consent to the user 1st . nyways i still cabt see marakov falling for it . not gilly either . both r too experienced for this kinda sh1t.

[kkck]

^but they did fall for it. That is unquestionable fact considering mest is there. Not sure on whether it requires concent though, when it was used in the oracion 6 arc it was used without the knowledge of most people. Zero even hacked into it and communicated with everyone.

[Unlucky Boy]

208 is out

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/1

[LoS]

Gildartz looks dumb as hell on the cover page with his hair not slicked back.

Evergreen and Elfman's ploy to distract Mira was as dumb as I thought it would be. Seriously, how can people cheer on this buffon?

More and more people revealing the mysterious nature of Mest as well.

And there is the proof, the Black Mage is indeed on the island, for all the doubters out there.

It seems like his magic, death preying, is some sort of affliction he has no control over. Like some entity has taken up residence within him.

I am wondering how he remembers Natsu, but Natsu doesn't have any recollection of him.

[Zatono]

Holy crap, Mr. Death Touch has made his appearance! Just when I thought this series of chapters couldn't get more epic, we get this! Also, Mira on the cover page is hawt. She needs to let the bangs down more often.

[kkck]

Nice second chapter for the week. I was kinda disappointed mest did not appear although his mystery keeps building up. Kinda disappointed gildarts left the island though, I guess we won't see more of him for the rest of the arc.

I laughed at the trick they used to beat mira though, fun stuff. Someone said they might have kissed, almost on the spot. Erza made me laugh though, she actually thinks they might go through with something like that. I think she will be on their backs for the rest of the series. That said, I thought evergreen had it in for fried... Love triangle anyone?

So this new guy has been living at the island from the very start? Or did he just get there? He definitely has to be a form of FT mage though.... How would he know of natsu though? I doubt natsu would have been in that island before. I think there will be more than one plot on this arc. Wonder if this guy is somehow related to mavis, the founder? It'd be an interesting twist.
[hr]
That said, didn't mira look a bit too much like wendy on the first page? For a sec I was actually wondering what she was going there. Gildarts does look kinda dumb though.
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http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/7
The was hilarious though. I guess natsu as a pseudo dragon has an affinity to beasts lol.

[LoS]

So this new guy has been living at the island from the very start? Or did he just get there?

I would go with the latter. He is trying to escape from humanity since he can't control the Death Preying that is afflicting him. I believe he visited the island because he believed it was uninhabited.


He definitely has to be a form of FT mage though....

Dont know about this.


How would he know of natsu though? I doubt natsu would have been in that island before.

the guy traveled from somewhere else where in their youth Natsu and him met each other.

What also sucks is that with Natsu there I doubt that Elfman and Evergreen fail this part of the exam. Also, I thought Natsu was flying up to the top, does that imply that Evergreen and Elfman are somehow already up there?

[kkck]

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/16
This is interesting. This guy is most definitely a DS, the moment his powers activated he actually got fangs. I think that is a DS trait. Natsu is sort of a famous mage so odds are he simply heard of natsu the DS and wanted to look for him. Mest is probably after him for some reason. Wendy is a DS who heals, something related to life so he probably chose her as his partner to counter him.
[hr]

A SHARP TOOTH! THE DEATH MAGE HAD SHARP TEETH! SOMEONE SOUND THE "OBLIGATORY LAND BEFORE TIME REFERENCE" ALARM! WE MAY BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER, and hopefully not new generation cause I am sick of seeing them-.-, DRAGON SLAYER! Also, I did not expect Gildartz to have red hair. He looks like an untanned Shanks-v-;;.

Gildarts hair color is brown/orange as shown in the image here (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/1). He won't have red hair, he won't look THAT much like shanks lol.

[Zatono]

I'm not gonna lie, I like the dude's hair. http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/15

But anyway, good find Max Cola, I completely passed that by. Also, kckk, I'd thought about that, but Wendy's power only heals, not actually gives life. Unless, of course, she gets some super power up. I wonder if Mr. Death Touch is gonna become a martyr in this arc..

[LoS]

Natsu is sort of a famous mage so odds are he simply heard of natsu the DS and wanted to look for him.

Nahh, you don't tear up like he did if you don't have some connection.

[kkck]

What also sucks is that with Natsu there I doubt that Elfman and Evergreen fail this part of the exam. Also, I thought Natsu was flying up to the top, does that imply that Evergreen and Elfman are somehow already up there?

I think natsu simply flew over them and felt the danger they were in. I don't think they are actually near the top. Natsu does not have to help them pass the exam though.

I would also question whether the tomb is at the top. Is it even possible to reach the top in suck a short amount of time? I think the tomb will be somewhere at the base of the tree, not somewhere as obvious as the top.

[LoS]

I wonder if Mr. Death Touch is gonna become a martyr in this arc..

Him or Mest. But if those tears in Charley's pre-cog of Natsu were not from his encounter with Gildartz, then Natsu and the Black Mage have a bunch to catch up on(very quickly) in order for Natsu to be sad if he dies.

[kkck]

I'm not gonna lie, I like the dude's hair. http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/15

But anyway, good find Max Cola, I completely passed that by. Also, kckk, I'd thought about that, but Wendy's power only heals, not actually gives life. Unless, of course, she gets some super power up. I wonder if Mr. Death Touch is gonna become a martyr in this arc..

She does not have to actually bring back the dead, merely countering the guys ability would be enough IMO.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/16
This is interesting. This guy is most definitely a DS, the moment his powers activated he actually got fangs. I think that is a DS trait. Natsu is sort of a famous mage so odds are he simply heard of natsu the DS and wanted to look for him. Mest is probably after him for some reason. Wendy is a DS who heals, something related to life so he probably chose her as his partner to counter him.
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Gildarts hair color is brown/orange as shown in the image here (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99063093/1). He won't have red hair, he won't look THAT much like shanks lol.

Wow, you're right kckk, my bad^^;;. It's just that, his whole appearance, and style of fighting, you kinda wish that when they show him in the animé, he'll be voiced by Shanks^^;;.

[LoS]

I think natsu simply flew over them and felt the danger they were in.

I guess. I wonder how he felt the danger?


I don't think they are actually near the top. Natsu does not have to help them pass the exam though.

I certainly hope not.

Because as it is, the only pairs who wont pass the exam are those who exceed the 6 hour time limit. I seriously doubt any of the pairs would get taken out by the animals on the island.



I would also question whether the tomb is at the top. Is it even possible to reach the top in suck a short amount of time? I think the tomb will be somewhere at the base of the tree, not somewhere as obvious as the top.

The base was always my initial guess. Like at the roots, and the founders magical power is what caused the tree to grow on top of her.

[LoS]

So looking back over 208 I got to thinking up a theory.

The Dark Mage is most likely a dragon slayer afterall, as if we didn't already have enough signs pointing to it right, but now the fangs are nearly irrefutable.

The Dark Mage dresses very old fashioned looking, and what struck me as odd was the way he said "the" guild. Not "a" guild, but "the." It could mean he is from a time way back when there was only one magic guild. Afterall, the Dragon Slayers are very old, evidence being Freid's rune's not allowing Natsu to pass through during the Fantasia arc.

Kind of crazy that he is from a time way back when there was only one guild, has a connection to Dragons, knows who Natsu is, and Dragons wayyyy back had a connection to Zeref. This could potentially could lead to unraveling the biggest mystery of this series thus far.

[jacke12]

another great chapter "oh no the death preying is coming" wish to learn something new in the next chapter how he knows Natsu maybe and who is the girl with white hair it looks like Mira or littel like Lucy

[Zehahaha]

God bless Mashima.

I really have great expectations for this arc now, Mest turning to have some nasty plan and probably have some magic that manipulates memory as others said, and more importantly, the " death " guy appeared and Natsu too ! Hope next chapter will be more about revelations

[Apache2813]

hmmmm he has sharp teeth huh?? could it be... Igneel?? i don't know it might sound pretty odd... but why would he cry after seeing Natsu????
yeah most probably it's wrong mostly because of the chapter's name... "black mage". but te most probable thing is that he has some kind of relationship with Cana... the man she had to meet... i really don't know...
but please not another dragon slayer :p

[frozen18ice]

what if the death touch guy was the dragon slayer of the black dragon and the reason why gildard had a big fight with the dragon is because the guild did not protected his son just like how natsu, wendy, gageel is the sons/daugter of the dragons there are seven dragons, we seen 3 of them so far and heard of the fourth one. the fact that guy knows natsu and i just have this gut feeling that he was mest partner last time there was a s class test and the reason why he does not want anybody close is because mest made him unable to control his power. just like what mest is about to do with wendy or take her and make the memories of her disappear. a black dragons power could possibly be the master of the death touch guy plus only people in the guild are allowed in the island not even any magic can disallow that mest prenetrated the guild as part of it that is why he is able to go there that guy could be a lost member of fairytale.

[Ero-Sanji]

The death kid is called black mage, ad the fangs and his connection with the black dragon is almost a fact. I still wonder though how he can't control his powers and also how he knows Natsu.

Remember how no one was able to find the island?
So, how come the black mage found it. I think this mage is, as someone mentioned, really old like the rest of the DS. However he still has a part of his memories of the past and thus could find the island. Perhaps he even knew the founder.

[Gats]

This arc seems far better than the previous one. Many unexpected and sometimes funny things.

I have the feeling that the black mage is like a cursed kid, someone who is trying to escape from his own destiny. You know the son of an evil father (black dragon) who has been turned good (or wasn't evil or fit for this role since his birth) by someone like Natsu. So the father somewhat "cursed" his own child, waiting for the day when his "son's will" will be crushed by the black magic and turned into an evil dragon.

So he would be destinated to be the bad guy but he doesn't want to, the black magic is a little like the Dark Side of the Force in Star Wars, not just a power but something more vicious and has a bad influence on your personality or sanity.

[Zatono]

209 is out!
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/1

Edit:

HOLY SHIT. Just when I thought it couldn't get more epic, we get this? I'm about to explode from this trilogy of chapters. Afdajfl;akj
This is amazing.

[Athrin]

Wow. So how many people actually expected this kid to be Zeref? No one? I thought so. Seriously, this is definitely one of the biggest twists I've seen in Fairy Tail thus far (last one that got me was Luxus being a Dragon Slayer). Last three chapters > the last arc.

[Zatono]

Wow. So how many people actually expected this kid to be Zeref?

If anyone actually has the balls to claim they expected that, they need to take a bullet.

[Zehahaha]

What ?
Zeref ?
Holy shit... Never expected such a thing... This is just wow... And how the hell does he know Natsu anyway ?

Oh man, this arc is gonna be really awesome

[Chaos Shadow]

Wow. So how many people actually expected this kid to be Zeref? No one? I thought so. Seriously, this is definitely one of the biggest twists I've seen in Fairy Tail thus far (last one that got me was Luxus being a Dragon Slayer). Last three chapters > the last arc.

it endeed is Epic, but there are many MANY thing that needs to happen before the end, Dragon King festival, Raven Tail, Tartarus
i think this will lead to some BIG CHANGES on FT and the magic world, but it is far away from the end


i got it maeby in charle´s premonition they are crying for mackarov´s death!

[Zatono]

What really sucks is that a HUGE portion of their damn fighting capability went away. Gildartz, Fried, and Bixlow all left the island at the worst time possible.

[LoS]

Well I and a few others weren't far off. We thought Mest was a member of Raventail, but he is in fact a member of Grimoire Heart.

Now this is the time where you would really need Gildartz on the island to help fight all those uber powerful mages Grimoire Heart is bringing to the island. And Freid, and Bixlow as well.

Grimoire Heart has 2 pretty decent looking characters outside of Urtear as well.

[Zehahaha]

What really sucks is that a HUGE portion of their damn fighting capability went away. Gildartz, Fried, and Bixlow all left the island at the worst time possible.

That's true... So i guess that Makarov will probably die then, so maybe that Gildartz will be the next master.

But man, i still can't believe that that kid is Zeref... Is he really the guy who created so many demonic objects and have a reputation of being the worst dark mage in the world ?


Well I and a few others weren't far off. We thought Mest was a member of Raventail, but he is in fact a member of Grimoire Heart.

Now this is the time where you would really need Gildartz on the island to help fight all those uber powerful mages Grimoire Heart is bringing to the island. And Freid, and Bixlow as well.

Grimoire Heart has 2 pretty decent looking characters outside of Urtear as well.

Grimoire Heart don't look that impressive to me, afraid that they will turn out like Oracion Seis. I won't be surprised if they will be like them

[ahoyxouran]

OMG ! so this man is Zereph ! i'm surprised ! °o°
i thought he would be a DS......

[Sollum]

I have only one thing to say...

HOLY SHIT!

These 3 chapters marathons rock, Mashima should do 4 chapters once a month release.

Its 2:34 here, i am a bit shocked, so i will make sure to read up everything again today later.


But damn, that's just epic! Mest turns out to be an elite mage of Grimoire Hearth.

[kkck]

WTF!!@#$% HOLY FUCK! FANGASM! LOL

This is outright epic, I did NOT expect this guy to be zeref. This arc is about to get epic.... That said, zeref was supposed to be evil so this guy is kinda weird and different from what I expected. Perhaps he is like blaine and has two personalities and the moment he awakes things go to hell.

[Diablos]

oh my god seriously? O: Im still in awe simply amazing these 3 chapters... Fairy Tail has been really raising to my personal tastes..

I was expecting the kid to be like the dragonslayer of blackdragon like everyone else maybe it is but to actually be Zeref holy ****...

Now I wonder how this battle of Dark guild vs Zeref will go :O can't possibly predict it, unless the fact we know someone from fairy tail will die. I actually agree with a dude that commented before that will be Makarov

[Killermachine252]

All three chapters are now out on MangaStream... and OMFG chapter 209 is EPIC MUCH? Black Mage that causes Death all around him = Zeref, now how did I not notice that....

[LoS]

Man my theory was pretty darn close. I said this person was insanely old like Natsu, and had a connection to dragons. Didn't think he was Zeref though, but it all fits. Old clothes like I pointed out, definitely fits with the entire apparent time phase that happened prior to this storyline. Since there are a ton of years missing from the plot of when the Dragons and Zeref did their mayhem till now while he has been asleep.

Who knows, maybe the Dragons are also demons he created. Or he forced them to do his bidding, or maybe it was up to their individual choice to decide whether to side with him or not.

[kkck]

I think we might as well kiss the exam good bye. There is no way FT is going to be able to keep up with the exam under the current circumstances. Its gonna be far to dangerous, it is that simple. These people control a third of the underworld, even makarov is bound to participate in this fight. It is a shame gildarts left the island though.

Wonder if there is a connection between mavic and zeref though. Perhaps he was the one who dealt with him all those years ago? I think the scarf is kinda proof that the DS were meant to fight with zeref to begin with. Why else would natsu have a scarf which adsorbs zeref's magic?

[LoS]

The numbers almost work out perfectly as well. There are 7 mages on Grimoire's side, and 7 pairs on Fairy Tail's side. Fairy Tail also has two S-class mages at their disposal, so I am expecting Juvia and Erza to form a pair along with Mira and Lisana to form a pair. That will make 7 pairs of Fairy Tail people against the 7 mages of Grimoire Heart after Mest takes Wendy hostage.

Makarov vs. Master Hades, with some Zeref and Mavis Vermillion interaction possibly thrown in. Oh lordy, I cant wait. I am bouncing out of my seat.

[Zatono]

I'm pretty sure Zeref is simply a guy who was manipulated by who knows what means into doing what he did. He was probably born with his crazy abilities too, so I'm not going to blame him for learning the magic as well.

Clearly he hasn't lost any of his memory, and since he's crying at the end of the chapter he surely knows of what he's done/been forced to do in the past.

Argh, until we get more information we can't make any solid predictions though.

[Zehahaha]

I just paid attention to this : http://www.mangareader.net/135-7216-12/fairy-tail/chapter-101.html

Grandine is saying : " All that is left for us is to believe in the humans own power... and Zeref "

Is Zeref actually a good guy and that he's meant to fight with DS against a greater enemy ?

[Zatono]

^Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, before we end up raping our own minds with all the scenarios we can come up with thanks to chapter 209, and all the other plot tidbits Mashima has given us throughout FT.

[LoS]

I'm pretty sure Zeref is simply a guy who was manipulated by who knows what means into doing what he did. He was probably born with his crazy abilities too, so I'm not going to blame him for learning the magic as well.

The question is, who or even how was he forced to create all those demons he did. And who forced him to use his magic powers to wreak havoc on the land and it's people way back?


Clearly he hasn't lost any of his memory, and since he's crying at the end of the chapter he surely knows of what he's done/been forced to do in the past.

Once again, another question. Who/How was he forced into his slumber?


Argh, until we get more information we can't make any solid predictions though.

In the same boat as you. I am just incredibly excited about this convergence of powers we have ready to happen. We have the elite fighters of a guild who is in my opinion a good bit stronger and more sinister than Oracion Seis going up against the elite of Fairy Tail minus Gildartz/Fried/Bixlow.

The crazy thing about all of this concerns Charley's precognition. I find it amazing that give the above circumstances that only one person from Fairy Tail would die when facing all those odds. Losing Makarov has been hinted for multiple arcs now, between his health, age, and him searching for a successor. So, him dieing to protect his little Fairies wouldn't be too much of a shock to me.

[chess4]

WOW....... 3 chapter all at once. mishima is a beast. cant say i expected that boy to be zeref. how does he know natsu. hqas he lost his memory or something.

the people who sealed zeref probaly sealed different parts of him. maybe the 1st fairy tail leader sealed up his body on the island.

either way its about to be a battle royal. fried, bixlow, and gildartz have left and went back but their are still 2 s class mages and the master, along with 3 dragon slayers, and a bunch of potential S class mages. panther lilly is the x factor.

[sarutobi_sensei]

OMG ZEREF?????

What the fuck????

Oh My Gawd.

And Mest is also part of Grimoire Heart.

We finally get to see Hades. Damn. I couldn't think that this person is Zeref. How does he know Natsu anyway?

Maybe the first guild master of Fairy Tail sacrificed himself to seal a part of Zeref, or something.

I'm just too dumbfounded to think of possible scenarios right now.

[Zatono]

So basically, we can sum up every post after chapter 209 being released in two words.

Mind Rape.

My goodness...if only Gildartz didn't leave, we might of been able to see some serious ass kicking. Hopefully Panther Lily delivers in his place.

[eclipse12]

He's Zeref OMG i did not see that coming and that is were he is sealed. That explaines the barrier. I did see that mest was apart of griomoire heart sweet.

[chess4]

i think that markov will not make it out of this arc. mishima has truely gained my respect with thia little trilogy. i know put him on the level with kishimoto and oda. just hope fairy tail last a long time.

anyway this arc is going to be great, i hope markov survives but someone is going to die

[LoS]

What I find so cool is that Zeref and Natsu have known each other for centuries.

Zeref has been patiently waiting for Natsu to get strong enough so that he can stop Zeref's powers he has no control over from hurting innocents. Zeref is also heartbroken, because although Natsu has gotten much stronger he is not strong enough yet to be able to completely negate his powers.


My goodness...if only Gildartz didn't leave, we might of been able to see some serious ass kicking. Hopefully Panther Lily delivers in his place.

I'm pretty sure that an all out fight of Hades and Makarov could potentially sink the island, something completely devastating. If you were to add in Gildartz who knows, a nuclear bomb might go off or something. It would probably be much too overpowered.


I did see that mest was apart of griomoire heart sweet.

Wait, you mean you predicted Mest to be a member of Grimorie Heart? If you did, kudos to you. I and maybe 2 others predicted him to be a Raventail member myself.

[chess4]

fairy tail is about to take on a astrong guild and they are without 3 of their best fighter, gildartz, mystogan, and laxus. mystogan isnt comin back but laxus will return eventually, but not in this arc.

this arc is going to be good. if zeref gets his mind back then its over for fairy tail

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Damn, this was the best present this week! Three chapters of Fairy Tail and not that slow pasing chapters, but so many events and so great! First I didn't expect Mest being from Dark Guild and obviously I didn't expect that little boy to be Zeref. I expected Zeref to appear much later in the story. Also it's pretty interesting why he is so young and how does he know Natsu. I really can't wait for the next chapter to reveal more.:)
Also we will see some new Dark Guild in action fighting against Fairy Tail. Also it would be great to see what will Mest try to do, because I suppose he wants to use Wendy in order to protect himself with her magic from Zeref.
Also this chapter made some great comic relief when Evergreen pretended to marry Elfman in front of Mirajane.:) I really expect this to grow in some type of relationship between them.;)

[LoS]

It ticks me off to no end that I can't guess how Hades plans to subdue Zeref.

The guy flat out said Zeref is the strongest and most evil entity in the magic realm, then how on earth does Hades plan to "use" Zeref? What secret does he know and plan to exploit?

[Draco1988]

WTH? Holy Moly.
It's Zeref!!!! The deadly guy is Zeref himself? The legendary Zeref.
*Mind stop functioning for a while*
So... Now we know why he was introduced on chapter 200 (Mashima has his own reason after all)....
And how did he know Natsu? For an instance before his revelation, I was thinking that he was Igneel in human form...
And Mest knows it too. And he was looking for the guy... But why Wendy?
Arggg

[LoS]

fairy tail is about to take on a astrong guild and they are without 3 of their best fighter, gildartz, mystogan, and laxus. mystogan isnt comin back but laxus will return eventually, but not in this arc.

None of the above stopped them before. They never had Mira, nor Gildartz, nor Luxus for any of the massive brawls they survived thus far. This time they have Mira on their side, along with Gazille, and a stronger Natsu.

Also, I wouldn't bet on Luxus making it back to Fairy Tail. Well, scratch that. This shounen is directed to a very young audience so it is almost a give then he will. In my opinion I would like it much more if he sought out his father Ivan and got himself into trouble doing so.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

I think the full page of Zeref should be made into a poster, like THIS:

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/MAX-COLA-POWER/motivator4e827394e0593f852c307855d9ae6753485e7f11.jpg

So, to quote the good friends in gorillamask: Fairy Tail vs. Grimoire Heart, WHO YA GOT!? *who do you want to fight who?*

I think the reason why Mest is with Wendy, it's because of leverage, just in case things don't go as planned, they may wanna take a hostage.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Cause of her healing powers.

OMG! I just figured it out!

If Makarov and other people can be influenced by Mest to believe that he is part of the guild, that's how Hades is going to control or @ least try to control Zeref, by using his magic.

And Wendy is also involved because she can boost other people's magic and abilities all the while curing them.

Mind Rape.

[LoS]

Also it would be great to see what will Mest try to do, because I suppose he wants to use Wendy in order to protect himself with her magic from Zeref.

Mest was most likely under orders by Hades to procure Wendy, because her powers serve an integral part in how Hades plans to bend Zeref to his will. Hades plans on using Zeref for his own means, and Wendy and her unique powers must play a huge roll in that.

I doubt Mest is using Wendy to protect himself when his task has been to find Zeref. The big secret he was alluding to was most likely Zeref. Mest was searching for him on Hades' orders and infiltrated Fairy Tail in order to see if the story/rumor of Zeref being sealed on Fairy Island were true. Otherwise without a mole outsiders could not prove the validity of the claim that they somehow learned about.

That is speculation, but I am pretty darn positive it will be proven correct.


I think the reason why Mest is with Wendy, it's because of leverage, just in case things don't go as planned, they may wanna take a hostage.

I already stated this after 207, but if he wanted a hostage he could have chosen any single member of the guild. Hades gave Mest specific orders to procure Wendy so that they could use her unique/specific powers in their plan to use Zeref.

It is interesting how Brain, and now Hades know all this magic lore from centuries ago, how they know specifics about any of the huge mysteries.

[Zatono]

Where's the Council at when you need em? With all the mind rape that's happening, we might as well find out that they converted Gerard to their side (or so they think) and they'll send Gerard and the Judicial guy to come help out.

[Kravmaga]

It ticks me off to no end that I can't guess how Hades plans to subdue Zeref.

The guy flat out said Zeref is the strongest and most evil entity in the magic realm, then how on earth does Hades plan to "use" Zeref? What secret does he know and plan to exploit?

He might not need some secret...
For instance Luxus was taken down by natsu and gazille ganging up on him. Strongest is only respective to the scope of the comparison, in this case, single strongest evil mage, which is discounting pairs of evil mages and single/groups of non-evil mages (presumably those who defeated him and sealed him), dragons etc, you get the picture...

Plus, hades has been gathering keys for a reason. For all we know, it could be root access to zeref's commands in which case, he pretty much has the keys to a tank for a joyride across town...

[LoS]

I wouldn't expect anyone to come to the rescue. First how will people know something is going on, second what gives them authority to trespass on Fairy Tail's island, and finally how will they get there in time, or even know where exactly the island is?

What will be really funny is after all this mayhem winds down and everyone goes back to the guild I could easily see the Council sending their police force there declaring the guild Fairy Tail has been disbanded.

Since they already stated any more mischief on their end would result in disbandment from the league of guilds. Also, they wouldn't stand for hearing Fairy Tail fought Grimoire Heart without the consent of the Council, nor hearing that Fairy Tail had dealings with Zeref. They would misinterpret the interactions with Zeref and just instantly crack down on Fairy Tail.


He might not need some secret...

he will definitely need some leverage to bend Zeref to his will and force him to do his bidding. Zeref is too strong and Hades doesn't have the man power with him.


For instance Luxus was taken down by natsu and gazille ganging up on him.

Yeah, only after Luxus used an incredible amount of his magic power casting Fairy Law. Im guessing you forgot this bit?


Plus, hades has been gathering keys for a reason. For all we know, it could be root access to zeref's commands in which case, he pretty much has the keys to a tank for a joyride across town...

Hence the leverage I was talking about. They have a plan, but I just can't figure it out. Oh well

Also, like I said before as well, how does Hades even know about all this ancient stuff? Another mystery in itself.

[kkck]

I was thinking... were would lucy get a gold key from based on the grimoire heart members we have seen? Going through the chapter I had an epiphany:

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/17

The goat guy is the stellar spirit of Capricorn! How he is staying in the human world is kinda beyond me though. If he is a stellar spirit then he would be staying there by his own magic or there is a stellar spirit mage somewhere. I guess it is possible someone like the master is powerful enough to summon a stellar spirit and also easily fight by himself.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

LoS

Mest was most likely under orders by Hades to procure Wendy, because her powers serve an integral part in how Hades plans to bend Zeref to his will. Hades plans on using Zeref for his own means, and Wendy and her unique powers must play a huge roll in that.

I doubt Mest is using Wendy to protect himself when his task has been to find Zeref. The big secret he was alluding to was most likely Zeref. Mest was searching for him on Hades' orders and infiltrated Fairy Tail in order to see if the story/rumor of Zeref being sealed on Fairy Island were true. Otherwise without a mole outsiders could not prove the validity of the claim that they somehow learned about.

That is speculation, but I am pretty darn positive it will be proven correct.
Of course.:) I really forgot about Wendy's ability to boost someone's magic, so that's how they will benefit from her. But I don't think it would be so easy to subdue Zeref, otherwise how he can be called the strongest black mage in history.:)
Also really maybe the first Fairy Tail's guildmaster used Fairy Law on him to change his attitude and then sealed him with his own life. Also maybe the reason why Zeref is so young resides in the nature of his magic. He eats life to be young.:)

[sarutobi_sensei]

Is that Ur Tear? xD

:o that guy being Capricorn is nicely thought. Kudos to you.

Damn I want the Dragons to appear on this arc.

[Zatono]

Also maybe the reason why Zeref is so young resides in the nature of his magic. He eats life to be young.:)

Oh...that's not a bad prediction. I hadn't thought of that, even though it seems so obvious. Nevertheless, because it seems Zeref cannot control his power, I still think someone controlled it for him, and used him to try and take over the world. Zeref was probably already used as a scapegoat once, and it'll probably happen again.

Also, for some reason I feel the need to call Zeref something else. I'm so accustomed to Zeref = bad, but it's clearly not right now.

[Draco1988]

What will be really funny is after all this mayhem winds down and everyone goes back to the guild I could easily see the Council sending their police force there declaring the guild Fairy Tail has been disbanded.

Since they already stated any more mischief on their end would result in disbandment from the league of guilds. Also, they wouldn't stand for hearing Fairy Tail fought Grimoire Heart without the consent of the Council, nor hearing that Fairy Tail had dealings with Zeref. They would misinterpret the interactions with Zeref and just instantly crack down on Fairy Tail.

I guess that would mean FT is "fated" to be a "Dark Guild" just like its Edolas counterpart.

About the Goat-faced guy. Yeah, he's probably Stellar Spirit "Capricorn". Since Loki can survive in human world, and even work as a mage in a guild, I think that other spirits to some extent can do the same thing too. Furthermore, what if the "power" of capricorn is moving between the "world" by himself without using the master's magic, that can be convenient in many ways.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Zatono

Oh...that's not a bad prediction. I hadn't thought of that, even though it seems so obvious. Nevertheless, because it seems Zeref cannot control his power, I still think someone controlled it for him, and used him to try and take over the world. Zeref was already used as a scapegoat once, and it'll probably happen again.

Yes, maybe Mashima will try to justify Zeref a bit like he did with Gerard.;) Though it would be really interesting to see if there was someone with power to control his deadly impulses.;)
Though you know it's strange for Fairy Tail to carry out an exam with Zeref nearby.:)

[Curryman]

Wow...209 was just..I'm speechless.

Words cannot describe how epic this chapter was....Great twist never thought he would be Zeref himself not to mention...Grimoire Heart is making there way there...Best battles of Fairy Tail Manga are about to come can't wait!

I still have a feeling Mest is going to be a bigger threat than both of them...Also where's Ivan? Wasn't he with Hades last time he made an apperance? It was so long ago can't remember.

[chess4]

does anyone think that zeref is connected to the black dragon?



everyone is against fairy tail, grimore heart, raven tail, and the council.

at the moment fairy tail has only 3 s class mages, 1 of the 10 wizard saints, and 3 dragon slayers. all this adds up to a lot of problem.

the only way i see fairy tail winning this fight, is if mavis wakes up and gets in the mix
[hr]
i have a strange feeling that zeref and natsu are related. remeber during the laxus arc that natsu and gajeel couldnt get out of the barrier because they were more than 80 years old. i think they were born a long time ago and the dragon chose them to train. they somehow stopped them from aging and when the time was right trained them for something important and then took the anti aging magic off them.

zeref was causing such chaos that the dragons had to step in and help the humans.

the old school wizards probably sealed zeref in differnet ssections and set up the dragons to train the children in case zeref ever came back

[LoS]

I still have a feeling Mest is going to be a bigger threat than both of them

I think Mest is just another tool Hades will use to get what he wants. Mest is probably just a member of the guild, who makes up the 7th member attacking Fairy Tail.


Also where's Ivan? Wasn't he with Hades last time he made an apperance? It was so long ago can't remember.

No, Ivan is the guild founder/leader of Raven Tail. An independent dark guild not part of the Ballam Alliance. The person you have seen with Hades is Urtear, his right hand woman.


i have a strange feeling that zeref and natsu are related. remeber during the laxus arc that natsu and gajeel couldnt get out of the barrier because they were more than 80 years old. i think they were born a long time ago and the dragon chose them to train. they somehow stopped them from aging and when the time was right trained them for something important and then took the anti aging magic off them.

zeref was causing such chaos that the dragons had to step in and help the humans.

the old school wizards probably sealed zeref in differnet ssections and set up the dragons to train the children in case zeref ever came back

Ha, that is pretty much the consensus around here after we read 209. Search this thread, there are a few people who beat you to it, but yes that seems the most valid idea floating around right now.

Well, that and the Dragons might have been on Zeref's side, just not the people controlling him.

[Kravmaga]

he will definitely need some leverage to bend Zeref to his will and force him to do his bidding. Zeref is too strong and Hades doesn't have the man power with him.

That or maybe we don't know what hades' power is, I mean for eff's sake, he just demonstrated he has someone with the power to mess with the memory of an entire guild, including several S-rank mages and one of the holy ten...



Yeah, only after Luxus used an incredible amount of his magic power casting Fairy Law. Im guessing you forgot this bit?


Well not exactly but that wasn't my point; two mages may be individually inferior to the top dog but it doesn't mean they can't match him together. I know we're operating under shounen laws here but Mashima is one of the few who doesn't make all his fights a 1 on 1 and go for some more creative dynamics.
If you don't like the luxus example, what about lucy+loki vs bixlow?
No loopholes there.



Hence the leverage I was talking about. They have a plan, but I just can't figure it out. Oh well

Also, like I said before as well, how does Hades even know about all this ancient stuff? Another mystery in itself.

I didn't mean to say that hades guy doesn't have a plan; as I mentioned, his whole getting keys deal makes me think he has the recipe for the perfect "potion of greater zeref-enslaving".

All I meant was nobody here knows zeref's power let alone that no amount of gathering from the current roster of mages could match him... I just don't want to decide right away that zeref in this state is too powerful for hades and his homies to possibly defeat.
Sure he's got the street cred, but hades is rolling deep and for him, zeref's demon-making powers might just be a tool like nirvana was for blaine. Is it too much to ask that the plot writing to not be tied to this damned power-level table lookup? =P

[Curryman]

So I'm predicting some of the battles that might be coming up:

Gildartz (eventually Natsu for main character reasons) vs. Hades

Gray vs. Urtear

Lucy/Cana maybe with Loki vs. Capricorn

All I got so far. Any other battles you guys see coming up?
Gajeel will most likely get his battle he's been craving for judging by the title of the next chapter but against who?
My vote goes to Mest.

[Zoro #1]

Damn didn't see that coming, i was thinking he was natsu's brother or childhood friend but him being Zerf have to say that was some freakin awesome twist in the story. Plus why did natsu scarf turn black happy said it was a sacrifice, anyone thinks it can be something else.
[hr]

So I'm predicting some of the battles that might be coming up:

Gildartz (eventually Natsu for main character reasons) vs. Hades

Gray vs. Urtear

Lucy/Cana maybe with Loki vs. Capricorn

All I got so far. Any other battles you guys see coming up?
Gajeel will most likely get his battle he's been craving for judging by the title of the next chapter but against who?
My vote goes to Mest.

What about wendy vs. mest for tricking her, i know she isn't the fighting type, but she is still a dragon slayer plus its time for us to see the full potential of her powers, she can't just always rely on others for protection.

[xErzaScarlet]

LOL, the next chapter is renamed Stupid Gajeel .
Anyway , i was kinda correct , they were looking for the hidden secret .
but i always thought master hades was ivan because that ultear always goes to him .
somehow or rather , ultear lovesss zeref , from etherion until now , she stills havent given up.
and anyway , the death magic guy seems like an ally , he doesnt attempt to kill Natsu .
i was reading the manga and every page i was like "faster ! tell me who you are"
and ending up receiving no answers from the manga ..
even if master hades was here , they would probably lose .
the guild elites are here , almost all , except that bixlow , fried and gildartz had gone back .
if 3 of them are here , we'll probably see mega action fighting .
woohoo ss class wizard + makarov vs master hades .
it'll be cool .
and Natsu's scarf turns black is because he's scarf isnt an original scarf , its coated with magic , i suppose .
Natsu always gain extra power when he is going to lose , maybe Dragneel has given some special magic to boost his power .

[mistgun_EU]

Hi all !!!

Ive been lurking this forum for long but these chapter was too epic so i registered an account :))

Fairy Tail is so awesome, even more awesome than One Piece atm! (yea i said it..)

I dont see anyway that FT can beat this dark guild right now, unless gildartz comes back with luxus and fried&bixlow.
I would like to see mistgun make a cool entrance and save wendy and fight mest.

[Zoro #1]

Hi all !!!

Ive been lurking this forum for long but these chapter was too epic so i registered an account :))

Fairy Tail is so awesome, even more awesome than One Piece atm! (yea i said it..)

I dont see anyway that FT can beat this dark guild right now, unless gildartz comes back with luxus and fried&bixlow.
I would like to see mistgun make a cool entrance and save wendy and fight mest.

I don't think that mistgun can come back anymore and beating the dark guild would be hard but it is possible without involving Gildartz, I think we we have to wait a little more before fully seeing gildartz in a fight.

[tobeulp]

This week chapters are awesome...
I will give this week to Fairy Tail even One Piece isn't even that great this week... Fairy Tail FTW

[Crude]

I've just one thing to say after reading this trilogy of chapters, something which probably everyone has already said or at the very least thought/felt:

MIND FUCK!!

[vongola_x]

Bravo, Mashima-sensei. Way to throw me for a loop! The revelation of the black-haired individual being Zeref (in combination with several other facts from throughout the series) has spawned a theory in my brain about what the Dragon Slayers really are, though that thread will have to wait until tomorrow before it's posted.

I'm really hoping that Makarov let loose in this arc, as he has typically been excused from battles in one way or another. A battle between and Hades perhaps? Yes, interesting indeed.

[tobeulp]

I think Makarov will die this arc... But I hope not

[LoS]

I dont see anyway that FT can beat this dark guild right now, unless gildartz comes back with luxus and fried&bixlow.
I would like to see mistgun make a cool entrance and save wendy and fight mest.

I would not like to see any of the above happen. Not one single bit.

Now on to some fun & interesting stuff:

I can also see why Grimoire Heart was introduced before Tartaros now, it all fits too well with mythology. "Tartarus is a place far below the earth, as far below Hades as Heaven is above the earth." Hades being the master of Grimoire Heart, and Tartaros is a place immersed in even more darkness than Hades. "Tartarus is also the unbounded first-existing entity from which the Light and the cosmos are born." This either points to it being the oldest or the largest/strongest. Which means save the best for last.

Also fitting with mythology is how Grimoire Heart is the dark guild seeking Zeref. "create magical objects like talismans and amulets... summon or invoke supernatural entities such as angels, spirits, and demons." We all know Hades has been trying to gather all the keys(amulets/talismans) to control Zeref. now if that doesn't sound like someone connected to Zeref then I don't know what does.

[ghostexiled]

you can almost already pair up the members of Grimoire Heart with the members of Fairy Tail...

Just look at their style and attitude they give off and match them with FT's characters.

One thing that I have forgotten... is Luxus's dad apart of this group or not?

Mest might be a challenge... but after that last chapter of him looking manic, he dropped a few points in my book.

[LoS]

you can almost already pair up the members of Grimoire Heart with the members of Fairy Tail...

Just look at their style and attitude they give off and match them with FT's characters.

What are the match ups in your opinion? I noted earlier that minus Wendy there are 14 Fairy Tail mages, so 7 pairs to fight the 7 Grimoire Heart mages. Leaving Makarov to face off against Hades.

Fat faced guy vs (Eve and Elf)
Bishounen guy vs (Grey & Loki)
Crazy eyed spiked hair blood thirst looking guy vs (Natsu)
Capricorn/goat face vs (Cana & Lucy)
Innocent loli girl vs (Mira & Lisana)
sexy Urtear vs (Juvia & Erza)
Mest vs (Gazille)


One thing that I have forgotten... is Luxus's dad apart of this group or not?

Ugh, it's been answered plenty of times already in this thread. We need to make a sticky about this since everyone keeps asking.

Ivan is the master/founder of the dark independent guild Raven Tail.


Mest might be a challenge... but after that last chapter of him looking manic, he dropped a few points in my book.

He will be tough no doubt, but yes his facial expressions definitely make him way less bad ass.

[ghostexiled]

alright... the ones I am set on are:

inner left-back: Dude looks like a Natsu/Gazille type.

inner left-middle: Looks like a Grey/Loki type... possible: Evagreen

left-front: Elfman/Gazille type.

inner right-back: Erza/Juvia/Mira/Evagreen type.

inner middle-right: Gazille/Lucy type.

right-front: Levy/Cana/Lisanna.

Middle - Hades: Makrov/Natsu... possible/Gildartz

Mest - is the wild card for me... however: Wendy/Gazille/Grey/Natsu type.

I believe Zeref will go unchallenged for obvious reasons. Natsu/Makrov/Gildartz will try and fail as he escapes.

I believe that Zeref/Hades will be "repelled" by the spirit of Mavis.

Of course we have the exception of Lily Panther joining in. Hopefully with Gazille... so we can see their teamwork, like we do with Happy and Natsu.

side note: I try to read through all the post (for obvious reasons) but I somehow slipped on the Luxus dad thing. :p

[LoS]

inner left-back: Dude looks like a Natsu/Gazille type. Agreed on both Natsu & Gazille

inner left-middle: Looks like a Grey/Loki type... possible: Evagreen Agreed on Grey

left-front: Elfman/Gazille type. Agreed on the Elfman

inner right-back: Erza/Juvia/Mira type. Agreed on Erza

inner middle-right: Gazille/Lucy type. Agreed on Lucy

right-front: Levy, Cana/Evagreen. Dont know about this one

Middle - Hades: Makrov/Natsu... possible/Gildartz Agreed on Makarov

Mest - is the wild card for me... however: Gazille/Grey/Natsu type. Since he is apparently strong I feel it would have to be Erza or Mira

Of course we have the exception of Lily Panther joining in. Hopefully with Gazille... so we can see their teamwork, like we do with Happy and Natsu. I could see Gazille and Lilly vs Mest

So you don't think that the fighters will stick with their current partners?

[ghostexiled]

I do think that the Exam will not finish properly due to the Dark Guild's interference. So yes I think that at first the original partners will fight with each other... but then get separated or mixed up. With possible group effort towards the end.

I did edit my last post a bit...

I don't see Fried and Bixlow coming back... but I do see Gildartz coming back late into the game.

[Ipoopshootingstars]

I've just one thing to say after reading this trilogy of chapters, something which probably everyone has already said or at the very least thought/felt:

MIND FUCK!!

Could not agree more! These three chapter were the best since the Luxus Arc. When i found that black was Zeref I had to do a legit double take. Oh an the Elfman/Evergreen baby was hilarious!

[LoS]

I do think that the Exam will not finish properly due to the Dark Guild's interference.

I think this is safe to assume. That being said though, I bet someone still gets promoted to S-class lol.


So yes I think that at first the original partners will fight with each other... but then get separated or mixed up. With possible group effort towards the end.

If this happens, then that is 14 Fairy Tail fighters all running around. Matchups would get very crazy and hard to keep up with. But, I do want to see some fights where a Fairy Tail member or two gets defeated and then another Fairy Tail member steps in and curb stomps the Grimoire Heart mage. That would be cool, and more realistic. Fairy Tail people have to get defeated here and there.


I don't see Fried and Bixlow coming back... but I do see Gildartz coming back late into the game.

Agreed on the first part, but Hmmm I don't know about the Gildartz bit. If he comes it might be overpowered. I mean the guy is probably stronger than everyone there sans Makarov, Zeref, and Hades. And who knows he could even be more powerful than an old-sick Makarov at this point. If he comes it just might be too much power on Fairy Tail's side.

[ghostexiled]

The only reason I see Gildartz coming back is due to Makrov not being in tip top shape. How many times have we seen him almost die? Too many...

So I see him coming in right at the end to not have a full on fight... but just protect Makrov and the rest of the worn out & beat up FT members from being obliterated by... most likely Zeref/Hades.

If not Gildartz... then most likely the spirit of Mavis.

What you stated about other FT members stepping in for fallen ones... is what I was trying to get at.

[LoS]

The only reason I see Gildartz coming back is due to Makrov not being in tip top shape. How many times have we seen him almost die? Too many...

That's why this time I don't expect Gildartz to come back and save the day, and in fact Makarov will die after saving/protecting his guild members. At least I expect this to happen, and I also don't want Gildartz to return.


So I see him coming in right at the end to not have a full on fight... but just protect Makrov and the rest of the worn out & beat up FT members from being obliterated by... most likely Zeref/Hades.

Thing is, I could see Gildartz taking out at least 2 of the Grimoire Heart mages. The dude is a colossal power. Just him alone would certainly tip the balance into Fairy Tail's favor.


If not Gildartz... then most likely the spirit of Mavis.

I had always expected Mavis' spirt to be involved in this arc regardless. There has been far too many hints, and with Zeref there and the seal's and such... it just all makes too much sense.

[ghostexiled]

I just don't see Makrov dying here... only for the fact of needing to have closure with his son and grandson.

When the arc comes that they are involved, then I could see Makrov dying.

I agree that Gildartz is a massive being (power wise) but that is why I stated him coming in at the last moment (where there is no fight left) just to protect the FT guild members from some Island destroying magic that will be unleashed by Zeref or Hades.

But the more I think about it... the more I am leaning towards the spirit of Mavis saving the day, or upgrading the DS'ers.

btw... I wonder why Zeref's magic unleashing tipped off the Dark Guild but not Gildartz? I guess the obvious answer would be that Zeref is way stronger and is a different type of magic...

[AandWguy]

Great, another guild gets involved. Doesn't that mean at the end of this arc the council will come after Fairy Tail (And let's be honest Natsu and the others will probably win against this new guild that just introduced itself) like they said a few chapters back?

[ghostexiled]

^Not necessarily... that island belongs to Fairy Tail... so it being destroyed or damaged should not involve the Council.

The only reason the council will show is because of Zeref being unleashed.

I don't think this fight is going to be anything like the other dark guild encounters.

We already have 3 major characters involved in this fight now... Hades, Ur and Zeref.

[Arrogance]

HOLy CRAP. THREE AMAZING CHAPTERS AND THEN IT ENDS WITH SUCH A HUGE REVELATION. So all this time the mysterious guy is Zeref??? I've always wondered how Mashima would finally bring him into the picture and this seems to be it. This arc is definitely going to be huge now.

So a few things that are really odd, Zeref doesn't seem to be pure evil but has an inner power that it. Maybe he doesn't even realize he is Zeref? Also he knows natsu, is there a chance that Zeref is actually a dragon slayer as well? Or I guess there could be another reason for knowing Natsu.

Overall, all three chapters were amazing but the last one tops the cake only because of the huge importance to the plot that it has.

[LoS]

I already stated my belief on what the council will do post this arc earlier in the thread so I won't go there again haha.

As for the family closure thing, it is really more destined that Gildartz and Ivan face off against one another. They are both the same generation, roughly the same age, Gildartz hates Ivan, and Ivan will most likely do something cruel to Luxus when Luxus finds him at Raven Tail.

Yeah the only way I could see Gildartz showing up is after the fights have all been concluded, like he shows up and displays his power basically telling all the dark mages to get lost and not mess with Fairy Tail.

Also not including the introduction and farewell chapters of the Oracion Seis arc there were roughly 30 chapters. I wonder if this arc will be 30 chapters long. OS arc was the longest arc, and I wouldn't mind this arc going on for a lengthy time, seeing as there is just so much that needs to be revealed.

[Zatono]

Biggest question of them all: How does Cana fit into all of this? At first we thought she would be related to Mr. Death Touch, but now that we know he's Zeref (which is still blowing my mind, 3 hours later), that's not right.

I thought Cana was gonna end up being one of the main focuses of this arc, so who in Grimoire Heart could she relate to?

I'm sure the mind raping has only just begun people. I haven't felt this mind raped since Aizen was unveiled as the real villain of Bleach, years ago.

[ghostexiled]

As for the family closure thing, it is really more destined that Gildartz and Ivan face off against one another. They are both the same generation, roughly the same age, Gildartz hates Ivan, and Ivan will most likely do something cruel to Luxus when Luxus finds him at Raven Tail.
I wasn't referring to Makrov fighting his son or anything... I just meant he has to be around for whatever is the conclusion of his son and grandson.

One of them or both, has to be around to have a part to play in or during Makrov's demise.

I agree that Gildartz will be the one to face Ivan though.

As far as the Cana angle goes... she doesn't need to have a connection per say in order for something major to happen with her.

[meny]

about the members of the Grimoire Heart does anybody alse thinks that the other women is a spirit mage like lucy because that guy that looks like a goat can be Capricon !!!!!! im so!!!! exited i'v been waiting a long time for this arc to come !!!
GO Mashima you are more then awesome

[kamakazi_1996]

ive just read all three chapters and i cant believe how well mashima pulled this off.
i was thinking how was mest was mystoguns diciple i knew that he had other intentions possibly capturing the death guy a.k.a black mage zeref
by countering his death magic with wendys life magic.
but how does zeref know natsu and when he encountered him he said youve really grown, is it possible zeref is older than he looks but because he absorbs life he was able to counter the affect of ageing




btw my first post here :)

[LoS]

Biggest question of them all: How does Cana fit into all of this? At first we thought she would be related to Mr. Death Touch, but now that we know he's Zeref (which is still blowing my mind, 3 hours later), that's not right.

I thought Cana was gonna end up being one of the main focuses of this arc, so who in Grimoire Heart could she relate to?

I'm sure the mind raping has only just begun people. I haven't felt this mind raped since Aizen was unveiled as the real villain of Bleach, years ago.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down there. Where exactly are you getting this? Cana states she must become S-class so she can "face" that man. So she needs to become a high level so that she can be respected by whomever she intends to talk to. What would ever make you assume she intended to meet the dark haired(now Zeref) guy in the first place? Same goes for Grimoire Heart? What business does she have talking to anyone from there, let alone the guy she wants to talk to. It's not like anyone in Fairy Tail predicted Grimoire Heart people to show up.

[HappyStealer]

Hmmmm.... some nice plot twists. My prediction/assumption: I think that fractions of Zeref's magic was sealed by some strong mages during the time (first master of Fairy Tail included) and the dragons. With Zeref being too strong, there was no way of beating him so they had to instead come up with a sealing method. After sealing Zeref's magic, they left Zeref and his magic-less body to roam earthland.

Since dragon magic was the strongest type, it is assumed that it is the only magic that could eventually beat Zeref so the dragons were tasked with raising/training a child with dragon slayer magic. The eventual hope of the dragons is that their child will eventually become even stronger than them to take on Zeref.

During his time roaming earthland, Zeref's magic-less self started to realize the good in the world and now longs for the prophesized dragon child to defeat him. However, in the events of most of the arcs, one of the sealing points for Zeref was broken (Tower of Heaven, for example), unsealing a bit of his magic. Zeref, knowing he can't control his magic at full strength and that it will corrupt him, actively seeks the dragon child that is closest to defeating him (Natsu) though Natsu is still not strong enough.

Mest is using Wendy because he needs her magic to break another seal, created by Grandine's magic, that is located on Fairy Tail Island, without realizing that Zeref actually came to the island in search of Natsu.

[cleodux]

I think Mest could be Zeref follower/diciple, at least he knows where is Zeref. And how he can manipulate everyone memory is not simple magic. And the reason he asked for Wendy help, cause Wendy has life magic and she is a DS.

Although we doesn't know how Zeref knows Natsu, i believe the only one who can break him is DS.

Lucy will get a new golden key. I am also happy the fact that Loki has more screen time in this arc.

I hope Erza will fights with Urtear, and Urtear will tell her that she was the one who manipulated Gerald.

The FT pairs will change throughout the arc.

Makarov vs Hades minus Fairy Law. Gildartz will not coming back. Cause with him on the Tenrou Land, FT is overpowered.

[Newkerzy]

Holy crap, Mr. Death Touch has made his appearance! Just when I thought this series of chapters couldn't get more epic, we get this! Also, Mira on the cover page is hawt. She needs to let the bangs down more often.

Don't forget Goth-loli Erza.:drool:nosebleed damn, I really wanna find some H-doujins of Erza in Goth-loli.
oh yeah, let's not forget her "sexy housewife" version as well.

I guess that would mean FT is "fated" to be a "Dark Guild" just like its Edolas counterpart.

About the Goat-faced guy. Yeah, he's probably Stellar Spirit "Capricorn". Since Loki can survive in human world, and even work as a mage in a guild, I think that other spirits to some extent can do the same thing too. Furthermore, what if the "power" of capricorn is moving between the "world" by himself without using the master's magic, that can be convenient in many ways.

Loki can do the same thing too you know, that's the reason why he can take part in this exam.


I already stated my belief on what the council will do post this arc earlier in the thread so I won't go there again haha.

As for the family closure thing, it is really more destined that Gildartz and Ivan face off against one another. They are both the same generation, roughly the same age, Gildartz hates Ivan, and Ivan will most likely do something cruel to Luxus when Luxus finds him at Raven Tail.

Yeah the only way I could see Gildartz showing up is after the fights have all been concluded, like he shows up and displays his power basically telling all the dark mages to get lost and not mess with Fairy Tail.

Also not including the introduction and farewell chapters of the Oracion Seis arc there were roughly 30 chapters. I wonder if this arc will be 30 chapters long. OS arc was the longest arc, and I wouldn't mind this arc going on for a lengthy time, seeing as there is just so much that needs to be revealed.

I thought Edoras arc was the longest??:huh


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down there. Where exactly are you getting this? Cana states she must become S-class so she can "face" that man. So she needs to become a high level so that she can be respected by whomever she intends to talk to. What would ever make you assume she intended to meet the dark haired(now Zeref) guy in the first place? Same goes for Grimoire Heart? What business does she have talking to anyone from there, let alone the guy she wants to talk to. It's not like anyone in Fairy Tail predicted Grimoire Heart people to show up.

True. But what if the man that she wants to meet actually became a member of Grimoire Heart without her knowing?? it would serve as a good plot twist for Cana's part.

Last note: MIND FUCK!!!!

Mashima is definitely on Kishi and Oda's level now. I now declare Mashima as the 4th member of the Big 4. Hell, even after the triple chapters, he's not even taking a break!!! that just shows his skills that are on Kishi and Oda's levels.

[Igtenes]

Natsu's muffler is white in Charle's premonition. Is it going to change back, or is it a goof.
Also doesn't it seem as if there is a repeating cycle going on with Dragon Slayers? Grandine mentioned that Natsu would meet Wendy again, and insinuated that the last time they met, they did not get along.
And Zeref has been trapped in that island for a while judging by how long Hades has been looking for him, and yet he seems to have met Natsu before. I think that Natsu and the other DS have been around for a long time and have maybe battled against Zeref for centuries.

[ghostexiled]

There really is no proof yet that Gildartz is #1 outta all parties involved (saved Zeref). We have seen NOTHING off any of the members of this dark guild... cept a little sample from Ur.

So I wouldn't be so hasty to state that if Gildartz came back that FT would automatically be the victor.

Ur has been behind several of the plot points so far... so there is no telling what she really could do.

[Newkerzy]

alright... the ones I am set on are:

inner left-back: Dude looks like a Natsu/Gazille type.

inner left-middle: Looks like a Elfman type possible: Evagreen

left-front: Gazille type.

inner right-back: Erza/Gray type.

inner middle-right: Lucy/Loki type.

right-front: Levy/Cana/Lisanna.

Middle - Hades: Makrov/Natsu... possible/Gildartz

Mest - is the wild card for me... however: Wendy/Gazille/Grey/Natsu type.

I believe Zeref will go unchallenged for obvious reasons. Natsu/Makrov/Gildartz will try and fail as he escapes.

I believe that Zeref/Hades will be "repelled" by the spirit of Mavis.

Of course we have the exception of Lily Panther joining in. Hopefully with Gazille... so we can see their teamwork, like we do with Happy and Natsu.

side note: I try to read through all the post (for obvious reasons) but I somehow slipped on the Luxus dad thing. :p

The bold parts are my modified version of yours. We all know Gray is going to get Urtear ever since we found out she's Ur's daughter. Erza would want Urtear as well for manipulating Gerard.

[Bhoot]

1st off , gr8 chapters , the elfman-evergreen baby was funny!!

And here is my theory :

In the past , when Zeref was at his full rampage the Dragon Slayers combined their powers [led by Natsu] in such a fashion that they reverted back to infant stage [somehow Wendy put in more power] to destroy the evil of Zeref [Yin-Yang stuff here] . The leader of FT provided Zeref with shelter in his island so he wouldnt harm ppl by his constantly leaking powers till the reverted DSers were again strong enough to defeat Zeref .

And by past arcs , i remember Marakov saying it was destiny that the 3 DSers , a very rare type of magic users joined his guild . I m gonna guess the destiny was for them to combine their powers to destroy Zeref so he could finally atone for his sins.

[micah10]

first of all, great chapters this week, so much information revealed and it was all nicely done.perfectly laid out. cheers for mashima!:D

i'm just wondering, zeref told natsu and co. that death preying is a magic that takes away life. my question is that why did the muffler of natsu became black? did it die? was there any reference from past chapters that it is alive in the first place? what is its purpose for natsu?

hope to hear some respones...:)

[DarkIcarusX]

Rmb the scene Charles saw? Maybe it is when Grimoire Heart's member was about to kill a FT member.

Did anyone spotted the hotshot from Grimoire Heart has weird eyes? Maybe he's some kind of Dragon Slayer (rmb how Laxus's eyes was during Fight Fest Arc?) Or maybe he has some kind of magic that can control people (GEASS! :P), since we already have Mest, who can edit the minds of FT members.

[Newkerzy]

Hey ghost, don't you think now would be a good time to resurrect the "Purpose of DS" thread?? considering with 209 spawning a ton more theories about DS....

This thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50557) has been reestablished on the front page... please use it for any DS theories or talk you may have. ~Ghost

[xErzaScarlet]

I think one of them is a lacryma dragon slayer , in other words , fake fake slayer.

[monkey D luffy]

1st off , gr8 chapters , the elfman-evergreen baby was funny!!

And here is my theory :

In the past , when Zeref was at his full rampage the Dragon Slayers combined their powers [led by Natsu] in such a fashion that they reverted back to infant stage [somehow Wendy put in more power] to destroy the evil of Zeref [Yin-Yang stuff here] . The leader of FT provided Zeref with shelter in his island so he wouldnt harm ppl by his constantly leaking powers till the reverted DSers were again strong enough to defeat Zeref .

And by past arcs , i remember Marakov saying it was destiny that the 3 DSers , a very rare type of magic users joined his guild . I m gonna guess the destiny was for them to combine their powers to destroy Zeref so he could finally atone for his sins.

best. theory. ever.

dude you are on a whole other level with that theory, i bet that even if you are wrong you might end up giving us a better story then mashima

[cleodux]

1st off , gr8 chapters , the elfman-evergreen baby was funny!!

And here is my theory :

In the past , when Zeref was at his full rampage the Dragon Slayers combined their powers [led by Natsu] in such a fashion that they reverted back to infant stage [somehow Wendy put in more power] to destroy the evil of Zeref [Yin-Yang stuff here] . The leader of FT provided Zeref with shelter in his island so he wouldnt harm ppl by his constantly leaking powers till the reverted DSers were again strong enough to defeat Zeref .

And by past arcs , i remember Marakov saying it was destiny that the 3 DSers , a very rare type of magic users joined his guild . I m gonna guess the destiny was for them to combine their powers to destroy Zeref so he could finally atone for his sins.

It is plausible, also that will explain why Natsu and Gajeel(Gazille) can't pass through Fried's rune barrier. And also DS magic is considered lost magic, that is mean it is ancient.

[p1xel]

Hmm,mysterious chapters.Natsu somehow lost his memory,probably.
Unexpected epic battle coming,mhm?
Test would be enough 4 me,they should do objectives,not fight epic battles on every step...But that`s my opinion.
Nice chapters,3 in 1 week,60 pages weekly is what we want!:DD

[Arkadi]

i remember reading that dragon fire could bring evrything to life,

[Dudett]

1st off , gr8 chapters , the elfman-evergreen baby was funny!!

And here is my theory :

In the past , when Zeref was at his full rampage the Dragon Slayers combined their powers [led by Natsu] in such a fashion that they reverted back to infant stage [somehow Wendy put in more power] to destroy the evil of Zeref [Yin-Yang stuff here] . The leader of FT provided Zeref with shelter in his island so he wouldnt harm ppl by his constantly leaking powers till the reverted DSers were again strong enough to defeat Zeref .

And by past arcs , i remember Marakov saying it was destiny that the 3 DSers , a very rare type of magic users joined his guild . I m gonna guess the destiny was for them to combine their powers to destroy Zeref so he could finally atone for his sins.

HOLY... - what a theory!
would explain why Mest wants Wendy (if he's in the Dark Guild - i guesso...)
also explains how the Dark Guild could rush the world into chaos
explains the barrier that Natsu and Gajeel couldn't overcome
AND it explains why Natsu was so very hostile from the beginning although he doesn't know him and the guy doesn't seem bad at all (exept for the killing thing of couse... and that he seems to be Zeref :D)

just doesn't explain the little glimpses we get of the dragons sometimes...

[Evil3ye]

was bit disappointed in the middle of 208-209, cuz I don't like that weird emo kid at all. We don't need an other Sasuke/Ulquiorra whatever in FT. But at least they introduced this Dark Guild already. Could be a wicked arc.. though it kinda reminds me of Oracion Seis ._.

[xErzaScarlet]

How come Zeref is those kind of person who does not like to harm anyone ? He seem not evil . Everyone's impression of Zeref is like him , a very sick , evil man who wants to destroy earth . But there he is , trying to "SAVE " people. Like "Lie Down! Or you will get killed !"

[biron]

my thoughts after reading chapters and this thread
emo kid turned out to be zeref - unexpected and cool - hope we wont see gerard story v 2.0
theory about ds reverting to infant state - total bull its not reborn ot smth
dark guild - hope that their powers will compensate for their poor design
one of dark guild members being a ds - do not want, it would be a total copypaste from oracion seic ark and that arc was one of the worst
gildartz vs zeref - do not want, it would be meaningless to show him loosing after so much hype
all in all hope mashima will keep up the good work on the plot coz i am reealy not impressed with the design of new enemies
[hr]

Like "Lie Down! Or you will get killed !"
it was natsu who shouted not zeref

[xErzaScarlet]

is it ? but zeref called them to leave ? or did i see the quote wrongly ?
the something death wave ?

[Apache2813]

hey wtf was that??? this guys is Z-z-zeref??? you serious?? and why does he know Natsu? wtf is going on here Mashima-san???

[Bhoot]

is it ? but zeref called them to leave ? or did i see the quote wrongly ?
the something death wave ?
Zeref asked them to leave while Natsu asked them to get down

[cleodux]

I think everybody caught of guard here... like for realll the mysterious young man turned out to be ZEREF, i was also having a wth/wtf moment... I always thought Zeref is asleep... somewhere and... the dark guilds been trying to awake him or something like that.

[Newkerzy]

Regarding whether Makarov knows about Mest or not, I'd bet my money on him knowing all along and just playing along with him. I think Makarov knew about it from Gazille through Ivan.

Think about it, Raven Tail is a dark guild that's completely independent from the Balam alliance. What Ivan wants is the destruction of FT, so leaking out information about Zeref (which he obviously knew) to other guilds would be beneficial for him. By leaking said information, FT would be targeted by the dark guilds and it would certainly result in a heavy blow for FT, because they're sure to lose some numbers.

Ivan knew that Grimoire Heart was making their move, therefore telling Gazille all about it. Ivan also spilled that Mest is the mole from Grimoire Heart. And later on, Gazille would report to Makarov about it. In other words, only 2 people know about Mest.

Why would Makarov hold the S-class exam at a time like this?? Simple. If Grimoire managed to locate Zeref, then it would be dangerous if he was without any protection. And considering Zeref's nature, that would mean he'd easily fall into their hands. So that's why Makarov is bringing out the big guns to prepare for this invasion.

In conclusion, everything is going according to his plan.

[Rowel]

The guy is actually Zeref reborn.

What? Playing your trump card now, Mashima? Let's see how this plays out.

Also, it looks like Mest is confirmed as a Grimoire Heart Member. That proves he threw his fight against Grey and Loke.

Luvia and Lisanna look cute on the cover, too.

[digit03]

Regarding whether Makarov knows about Mest or not, I'd bet my money on him knowing all along and just playing along with him. I think Makarov knew about it from Gazille through Ivan.

Think about it, Raven Tail is a dark guild that's completely independent from the Balam alliance. What Ivan wants is the destruction of FT, so leaking out information about Zeref (which he obviously knew) to other guilds would be beneficial for him. By leaking said information, FT would be targeted by the dark guilds and it would certainly result in a heavy blow for FT, because they're sure to lose some numbers.

Ivan knew that Grimoire Heart was making their move, therefore telling Gazille all about it. Ivan also spilled that Mest is the mole from Grimoire Heart. And later on, Gazille would report to Makarov about it. In other words, only 2 people know about Mest.

Why would Makarov hold the S-class exam at a time like this?? Simple. If Grimoire managed to locate Zeref, then it would be dangerous if he was without any protection. And considering Zeref's nature, that would mean he'd easily fall into their hands. So that's why Makarov is bringing out the big guns to prepare for this invasion.

In conclusion, everything is going according to his plan.

if that was the case how come gildartz went back?

[sarutobi_sensei]

Fatty vs Elfman and Evergreen or Gajeel and Levvi
"I look cool and I'm evil" vs Gray and Loki or Elfman and Evergreen
"I'm crazy" vs Natsu or vs Gajeel
Ur Tear vs Erza or Natsu or Gray and someone else. Reasons: Erza because of Gérard. Gray because she's the daughter of Ur. Natsu because she was trying to make a fool out of him in Garuna Island.
Capricornius vs Lucy and Cana with the aid of Loki.
Other girl vs Mira+Juvia+Lissana
Hades vs Makarov for starters, then vs Guildartz

Zeref vs Natsu, Wendy and Gajeel.

[meny]

not related to the subject does anybody els think that i will be cool if Mashina made
fairy tail win and then all the participants and Lucy cuz i love her LOL will be S-class

[kkck]

If I recall, urtear said zeref was never dead, he was sleeping. I think that is basically what natsu and the other DS did. It was said natsu was actually found by igneel in a forest or something. Then again, natsu does not seem to have any recollection of a family before that. Odds are that each DS's memories were wiped out and they were set to sleep for an amount of time. Basically once zeref's own awakening was close those kids woke up and were found by their respective dragons who taught them their magic. Once their training was finished they disappeared and left the humans to their own affairs.

Of course, if DS were trained to defeat seref then it can only mean one thing. Zeref must necessarily be a DS and the other DS were trained to defeat them.

There is another way things could have gone. The DS themselves were actually trained centuries ago and only woke up recently shortly before zeref's appearance. Zeref himself met natsu and co as babies and realized natsu had the most potential among them all hence why he seemed to have place his faith in him. The only issue with this would be edo natsu and wendy. Why were they there if they were born centuries ago? I guess this is kinda a non issue though.

Another thing, why is wendy so young? if she was born centuries ago and set to wake up a specific time before zeref's awakening then she should be around natsu's age. I think there might have been an accident and she woke up a few years after what she was supposed to. That would also explain edo wendy being so old.

I am still curious though... Were the DS trained hundreds of years ago and woke up recently to find the dragons gone or were they set to sleep and wake up years ago and they were subsequently trained and abandoned?


BTW, I am calling it right now. Natsu and the other DS are the sons of several kings from the past who allied with the dragons to defeat zeref.

[iamtenninja]

Regarding whether Makarov knows about Mest or not, I'd bet my money on him knowing all along and just playing along with him. I think Makarov knew about it from Gazille through Ivan.

Think about it, Raven Tail is a dark guild that's completely independent from the Balam alliance. What Ivan wants is the destruction of FT, so leaking out information about Zeref (which he obviously knew) to other guilds would be beneficial for him. By leaking said information, FT would be targeted by the dark guilds and it would certainly result in a heavy blow for FT, because they're sure to lose some numbers.

Ivan knew that Grimoire Heart was making their move, therefore telling Gazille all about it. Ivan also spilled that Mest is the mole from Grimoire Heart. And later on, Gazille would report to Makarov about it. In other words, only 2 people know about Mest.

Why would Makarov hold the S-class exam at a time like this?? Simple. If Grimoire managed to locate Zeref, then it would be dangerous if he was without any protection. And considering Zeref's nature, that would mean he'd easily fall into their hands. So that's why Makarov is bringing out the big guns to prepare for this invasion.

In conclusion, everything is going according to his plan.

Why would Ivan even be concerned about Grimoire Heart's plans? I don't quite see him caring about what they do just as Tartoros and Grimoire Heart didn't move to conceal Oracion Seis' action to find Nirvana. I can see Ivan being the cause of Mest and Brain's miraculous knowledge of Gerard's (Mystogan) connection to Wendy but for him to spill out information of that sort to Gazille is a bit farfetched in my opinion.

And this period of the year is usually when they have S-class trials, I find no special circumstance to this year than any other year before Zeref's and Grimoire Heart's appearance. You're basically saying Makarov knew two things: one - Zeref's sealed on the island and two - Zeref is awake.

Zeref - the Black Mage and one of the most dangerous Wizards of all time. And he's going to bring upcoming S-class members to the same island; just to keep a check on him.

So why did Makarov tell his selected candidates about making an Alliance with other guilds to take down the Oracion Seis when he kept quiet about bring his own guild to an island potentially knowing a Dark Guild just as strong if not stronger is going to confront them there. Plus the added Black Mage would prove to be just as dangerous to both sides. Why keep it a secret under the pretense of S-class selection?

[kkck]

I think ivan should be concerned with grimoire heart's plans. For one thing, anything regarding zeref is bound to affect him at some point just as everyone else. Also, he seems mildly interesting in acquiring power. Grimoire heart becoming too powerful would get in his way.

[uglymonkey]

Damn it, I predicted like 100 chapters ago that Zeref would be the black dragon slayer, but honestly I was hoping I was wrong. If you look closely tho you can see zeref has the dragon slayer trademark teeth tho.

[Ero-Sanji]

Grimoire hearts, I wonder what they want with an evil Zeref?
I mean he sounds as chaotic person who'll kill everyone just because he can. So, why do they want to create that demon, I wonder if they want to control him?

I don't think Makarov knows about Mest, that would be strange. He would literally put Wendy in grave danger and the fact that he even let a non-Fairy tail member enter their holy place is even more absurd.

[Bhoot]

If I recall, urtear said zeref was never dead, he was sleeping. I think that is basically what natsu and the other DS did. It was said natsu was actually found by igneel in a forest or something. Then again, natsu does not seem to have any recollection of a family before that. Odds are that each DS's memories were wiped out and they were set to sleep for an amount of time. Basically once zeref's own awakening was close those kids woke up and were found by their respective dragons who taught them their magic. Once their training was finished they disappeared and left the humans to their own affairs.

Of course, if DS were trained to defeat seref then it can only mean one thing. Zeref must necessarily be a DS and the other DS were trained to defeat them.

There is another way things could have gone. The DS themselves were actually trained centuries ago and only woke up recently shortly before zeref's appearance. Zeref himself met natsu and co as babies and realized natsu had the most potential among them all hence why he seemed to have place his faith in him. The only issue with this would be edo natsu and wendy. Why were they there if they were born centuries ago? I guess this is kinda a non issue though.

Another thing, why is wendy so young? if she was born centuries ago and set to wake up a specific time before zeref's awakening then she should be around natsu's age. I think there might have been an accident and she woke up a few years after what she was supposed to. That would also explain edo wendy being so old.

I am still curious though... Were the DS trained hundreds of years ago and woke up recently to find the dragons gone or were they set to sleep and wake up years ago and they were subsequently trained and abandoned?


BTW, I am calling it right now. Natsu and the other DS are the sons of several kings from the past who allied with the dragons to defeat zeref.



1. DS magic is suppose to kill Dragons by mimicing dragon skin . While its true that they now posses semi - dragon characteristics , i m gonna assume there is a better anti - DS than another DS . I ll put my bet on Zeref being a Dragon himself somehow pushed into a human vessel and trying to escape from the inside .

2. If that were true , Wendy would have known a basic move like Roar of Sky dragon from the start , yet she had to muster up to use it .

3. While its true that the dragons trained them , dont u think under the dragons guidance they would have grown more stronger more easily and faster [or maybe they feared they would be hunted down by them]

[Kuzumikun]

i cant wait!!! c;
i still want to know what was lucy saying when she said "she'll be a big role in this arc"
and charle's vision
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[meepers4982]

First time poster here :)
these last three chapters were amazing...i loved the plot twist with zeref i really did not expect that. This arc just became 10 times better. I think that with this arc we will find out more about natsu's past and about the dragonslayers in general because we really dont know that much, its about time we knew more after 209 chapters.

[kkck]

1. DS magic is suppose to kill Dragons by mimicing dragon skin . While its true that they now posses semi - dragon characteristics , i m gonna assume there is a better anti - DS than another DS . I ll put my bet on Zeref being a Dragon himself somehow pushed into a human vessel and trying to escape from the inside .

2. If that were true , Wendy would have known a basic move like Roar of Sky dragon from the start , yet she had to muster up to use it .

3. While its true that the dragons trained them , dont u think under the dragons guidance they would have grown more stronger more easily and faster [or maybe they feared they would be hunted down by them]

Why would you assume that? That theme has been present in the manga for a while now and it was mentioned when natsu fought gazille and natsu-gazille fought luxus. It has also been mentioned that DS are not just dragon lookalikes but by all intents and purposes they are dragons and hold their power.
http://www.cloudmanga.com/Fairy_Tail/61/#10
http://www.cloudmanga.com/Fairy_Tail/126/#15

Taking dragon characteristics makes DS ultimately weak against DS magic, there is no way to get around that. An anti DS magic would necessarily have the same effect on actual dragons.

Also, do we just assume wendy didn't know how to use those attacks? I don't think she just randomly learned actual DS attacks in that fight, she must have already know how to used them. IMO it was not until then that she mustered the courage(or determination or whatever other emotion shounen characters use as steroids) to actually attack.

There is also a factor of what the dragons role is in all of this. Perhaps they had other stuff to do or where ultimately prohibited from interfering with humans. Or perhaps natsu and co were actually taught all they had to know about DS magic and afterwards they were left to let their magic improve on their own.

[Bhoot]

i dont really have any arguments to ur 1st 2 points coz i had the dsame doubts even while posting .

but , we saw how the sky dragon communicated with Igneel through telepathy or something . So atleast she could have kept in touch with Wendy or for that matter maybe atleast explain why she left !! Uhm as for not interfearing with humans , i got nothing to contradict it ;p How about : Lucy's mom kept them safe from humans / vice-versa / kept them unnoticed or whatever , but coz of her death , the Ds left DS??

[Parisienne]

It's my first message here, but this chapter is so amazing!

I apologize if my idea is stupid, or if it has already been suggested, but maybe Zeref and Mavis are the same person?
They were both sleeping. On the same place. Zeref doesn't seem to be a bad boy.
Maybe he has created Fairy Tail to protect the world against himself? Or to protect the world against his artefacts?
I don't know exactly if Zelef is a dragonslayer or not. But remember, when Natsu became "Sir Dragneel"...Maybe Zelef is the "evil" version of Mavis?
The strange thing is that Makarov doesn't know very well Dragonslayers (by example, he didn't know Natsu and Gazille where so old...). I don't remember, who fought Zelef before? DS or strong mages?
Maybe Fairy Tail and DS have different postions: Fairy Tail members have to stop his resurrection (as Zelef), wtith the artfeact quests, and Dragonslayers have to kill him (as Zelef).
I don't know if I am clear.

[chess4]

could be very possible that zeref is the black dragon slayer.

so far we have the fire, sky, and metal dragon slayer. fake poison, and fake lightning dragon users.

it could be very possible that the grimmore heart has a real dragon slayer user. the guy with the crazy eyes.

also something is very interesting about this chapter. since zeref has been introduced so early, i dont think he will be the final enemy. these 3 chapters just proved their is a bigger revealation regarding the dragons, because why would a dragon teach a human how to beat his own kind?

i think somehow in the past the dragons were being controlled and caused much havoc on the planet, knowing this they had to devise some type of method that if that happened again that they could be stopped. so they chose students and put them to sleep and kept them from aging. when it was nearing the time for them to awaken, the dragons trained them, but had to leave so that they wouldnt be 2 attached to them, so when the time came for the slayers to fight the dragons and possibly kill them

i think zeref was/is the black dragon slayer and all the terrible things he did, that actually someone else is responsible for it. i think that zeref was actually a good guy at one point.

[HappyStealer]

it could be very possible that the grimmore heart has a real dragon slayer user. the guy with the crazy eyes.


Yeah I think when I saw that guy, I automatically thought "Dude with the super saiyan 2/3 hair and the crazy eyes is a dragon slayer and he's the opponent that natsu will fight"

Also, I think Grimoire Heart has the coolest looking evil members so far. Chick with the angel/hermes type of headgear looks awesome.

And it's great that these past 3 chapters have been so good that I've seen a rise in the amount of new users getting accounts and commenting in this forum.

[LoS]

Yeah I think when I saw that guy, I automatically thought "Dude with the super saiyan 2/3 hair and the crazy eyes is a dragon slayer and he's the opponent that natsu will fight"

Also, I think Grimoire Heart has the coolest looking evil members so far. Chick with the angel/hermes type of headgear looks awesome.


Agreed on both points. They really only have 2.5 poor designs. The Goat, and Fat faced guy. Also, Mest is dumb looking when he does those retarded faces, otherwise he is pretty baller.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Lucy's mother is bound to be important soon. She also died 7 years ago, the year the dragon's vanished. I wonder why it was never mentioned when exactly did she die.

I dunno why, but she's going to be mentioned soon. Probably on this arc.

Regarding Zeref, we can't really say anything. People say that he is the most evil mage to have ever existed, but from the looks of it, he isn't bad.

I can't really wait for the explanation about how he knows Natsu and why doesn't Natsu remember.

[Zatono]

Hey, guys, was anything said about Mashima going on a break? I mean, it'd be kind of crazy if she just put out 3 chapters for no reason. She can't be THAT ahead of schedule xD

[kkck]

^Mashima is a he. That said, we have not been informed of a break of any sort. It is not the first time mashima has released more than 1 chapter in a week so I don't think we should be suspicious.

[daman246]

im so surprise i dont even know what to say so zeref knows natsu and the dark guild is on the way wow so much happened in so little time

[Zatono]

^Mashima is a he. That said, we have not been informed of a break of any sort. It is not the first time mashima has released more than 1 chapter in a week so I don't think we should be suspicious.

Oh, my bad. For some reason I thought Mashima was female...probably because of Rave Master. But yeah, alright, I'd really hope there's NOT a break simply because of the epic trilogy we just had.

[bittman]

I was reading this next to a friend, and I squealed out loud when they said "Oh yeah, this guy is Zeref". Couldn't have predicted that until the exact page where it says it.

So, though not a "plot twist" given the lack of build up, it is a great "plot movement". Until the last of the three chapters came out, I expected Mest to be the big bad of the arc, but now it appears he is just one of many big bads incoming.

Hoping somehow everything going on here ties in with Kana. Since this was meant to be her arc, yet was suddenly hijacked by Zeref + Mest, I wonder if in fact perhaps Kana has some connection to Zeref / Dark Guilds? Given the plot progression, I can only expect that the twist of the Dark Guild incoming should somehow impact upon Kana.

Would be nice to have someone not named Natsu not forgotten.

[chess4]

Lucy's mother is bound to be important soon. She also died 7 years ago, the year the dragon's vanished. I wonder why it was never mentioned when exactly did she die. I dunno why, but she's going to be mentioned soon. Probably on this arc.

Regarding Zeref, we can't really say anything. People say that he is the most evil mage to have ever existed, but from the looks of it, he isn't bad.

I can't really wait for the explanation about how he knows Natsu and why doesn't Natsu remember.

actually lucy is the main character. im sure it will tie in together. mishima is quickly gaining my respect.

i wonder how many dragon slayers there will be? as for as it stands now we have 3 and a black dragon so its safe to say there are 4 dragon slayers at least.

i really hope the guy with the crazy eyes is a dragon slayer. i wonder if fairy tail will get anymore dragon slayers?

[MechR]

Agreed on both points. They really only have 2.5 poor designs. The Goat, and Fat faced guy. Also, Mest is dumb looking when he does those retarded faces, otherwise he is pretty baller.I think the goat-man's actually pretty slick, on second glance. Agreed on fat-head though.

[sarutobi_sensei]

actually lucy is the main character. im sure it will tie in together. mishima is quickly gaining my respect.

i wonder how many dragon slayers there will be? as for as it stands now we have 3 and a black dragon so its safe to say there are 4 dragon slayers at least.

i really hope the guy with the crazy eyes is a dragon slayer. i wonder if fairy tail will get anymore dragon slayers?
I know she is. She was the first person to be introduced. Natsu is a main character, but not the main character of main characters.

Better yet, Natsu isn't the protagonist. Lucy is. So everything about her is important x)

For now, only 3. We don't know if the Black Dragon trained a DS. If so, then there's 4.

There should also be the Poison and Electric Dragons, because those Lachryma had to be produced out of somewhere.

He is either a True Dragon Slayer or a Fake Dragon Slayer. I'm betting more on the fake Dragon Slayer.

[xErzaScarlet]

If Gajeel went back to guild , the title wont be called Stupid Gajeel for the next chapter .
So , Gajeel must have gone back to guild to find help OR his cat spotted him and asked him to stop .

[iamtenninja]

It's my first message here, but this chapter is so amazing!

I apologize if my idea is stupid, or if it has already been suggested, but maybe Zeref and Mavis are the same person?
They were both sleeping. On the same place. Zeref doesn't seem to be a bad boy.
Maybe he has created Fairy Tail to protect the world against himself? Or to protect the world against his artefacts?
I don't know exactly if Zelef is a dragonslayer or not. But remember, when Natsu became "Sir Dragneel"...Maybe Zelef is the "evil" version of Mavis?
The strange thing is that Makarov doesn't know very well Dragonslayers (by example, he didn't know Natsu and Gazille where so old...). I don't remember, who fought Zelef before? DS or strong mages?
Maybe Fairy Tail and DS have different postions: Fairy Tail members have to stop his resurrection (as Zelef), wtith the artfeact quests, and Dragonslayers have to kill him (as Zelef).
I don't know if I am clear.

Bear with me if I sound oppressive; I mean no harm.

The difference between both Zeref and Mavis was the way they were on the island. Zeref was sealed first shown as a giant hole whereas Mavis was given a tomb. Of course because of Lisanna, we can't ever trust corpses to be where we expect them to be anymore but still, I'd like to presume the body of Mavis is where the tomb of Mavis is at whist presuming Zeref came out of the giant hole in the ground somewhere.

Sir Dragneel? Are you referring to when he put on the getup in Edoras and went by the name Demon Lord Dragneel or something along the lines of it? That was just an act and not really a dormant personality. As for Zeref and Mavis, I assumed that Zeref was sealed hundreds of years before Fairy Tail was founded by Mavis but there's no history stating this. So it's all up in the air for now.

Makarov doesn't know much about Dragon Slayers save for their overall importance towards some "Prophecy" being fulfilled. Let's apply this prophecy towards Zeref for now. Considering that Zeref was on the same island as Mavis' tomb - no mere coincidence - then not only does it tie the Dragon Slayers to the Evilest Wizzzzzzaaarrddddd of All Time but it also ties Fairy Tail guild to the Zeref as well. That's an interesting idea.

Work on it some more, then claim credit for it if it ever goes down that road

[johnnyb7]

My guess is that Zeref is trapped inside this boy, the keys that have been collected were done so for the purpose of releasing Zeref from the guy. Also I'm guessing Zeref's powers simply leak out of the boy without him wanting it to, with him being helpless to suppressing it.

[kkck]

I can't help but wonder how exactly this guy is going to turn into an evil SOB. I mean, he does not even want to fight. Rather, he seems bent on meeting his own end, he seemed to have wanted to be defeated based on his interaction with natsu. I can't imagine mashima doing the dual personality thing again although it is possible. It is plausible his random magic bursts are nothing but his original personality trying to take over. Or perhaps grimmoire heart does not want zeref himself but to suck out his power and magic for their own benefit.

[Newkerzy]

Why would you assume that? That theme has been present in the manga for a while now and it was mentioned when natsu fought gazille and natsu-gazille fought luxus. It has also been mentioned that DS are not just dragon lookalikes but by all intents and purposes they are dragons and hold their power.
http://www.cloudmanga.com/Fairy_Tail/61/#10
http://www.cloudmanga.com/Fairy_Tail/126/#15

Taking dragon characteristics makes DS ultimately weak against DS magic, there is no way to get around that. An anti DS magic would necessarily have the same effect on actual dragons.

Also, do we just assume wendy didn't know how to use those attacks? I don't think she just randomly learned actual DS attacks in that fight, she must have already know how to used them. IMO it was not until then that she mustered the courage(or determination or whatever other emotion shounen characters use as steroids) to actually attack.

There is also a factor of what the dragons role is in all of this. Perhaps they had other stuff to do or where ultimately prohibited from interfering with humans. Or perhaps natsu and co were actually taught all they had to know about DS magic and afterwards they were left to let their magic improve on their own.

I actually think Wendy is your kind of prodigy mage. After watching Natsu use the roar just once, she was able to use it herself. (with some hints from Gerard) To be honest, if Wendy trained seriously with Natsu or Gazille, she'd easily get nominated for S-class in 1-2 years.


Lucy's mother is bound to be important soon. She also died 7 years ago, the year the dragon's vanished. I wonder why it was never mentioned when exactly did she die.

I dunno why, but she's going to be mentioned soon. Probably on this arc.

Regarding Zeref, we can't really say anything. People say that he is the most evil mage to have ever existed, but from the looks of it, he isn't bad.

I can't really wait for the explanation about how he knows Natsu and why doesn't Natsu remember.
With Zeref appearing so early, it's really hard to predict what will happen now. And Lucy's mother remains a huge mystery. In fact, she'll probably be saved for last.

[sarutobi_sensei]

While watching the anime today, I noticed something:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v16/c132/20.html

Natsu is thinking about Wendy. Probably because he has heard her name before.

Damn the theory that they are reborn or reincarnated or have been asleep for a long time is coming more into the light.

Gah I'm so excited about this arc. So many secrets will be revealed.
[hr]
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v16/c133/6.html

There. He faintly remembers her. Well not really but he remembers the name. Could it be that Igneel mentioned the name before?

Could Brain have called Wendy the Sky Sorceress just because of her being the Sky Dragon Slayer?

[kkck]

I actually think Wendy is your kind of prodigy mage. After watching Natsu use the roar just once, she was able to use it herself. (with some hints from Gerard) To be honest, if Wendy trained seriously with Natsu or Gazille, she'd easily get nominated for S-class in 1-2 years.


With Zeref appearing so early, it's really hard to predict what will happen now. And Lucy's mother remains a huge mystery. In fact, she'll probably be saved for last.

Early? Zeref was mentioned the first time 200 chapters ago lol, it is by all intents and purposes long overdue.

It is possible wendy is a prodigy of sorts but I would kinda question how she learned that. DS magic is inherently a destructive magic, a magic meant to cut down dragons. I don't think it quite makes sense grandine would have taught her how to heal and boost but in turn not to actually slay. I had another thought though. DS actually change their own constitution to resemble that of dragons. Claws, fangs, scales become a part of them and manifests when they use their magic. Perhaps some part of the DS magic and abilities become inherent once they acquire DS characteristics.

[Baka_Sousui]

Just for fun theory on Zeref.
What if he was indeed a good person all along but because of the extremity of his powers he was just feared? It could be said that a lot of details have been misinterpreted throughout history. People say things and misinterpret situations all the time, what if fairy tail history books were the wrong perspective. What if all the forbidden items were just attempts to seal away the dark powers. I know it could be very anti climatic if it were, but Zeref might not be FairyTail's main antagonist, and we're just lead to believe it is so. There are other people hinted as possible villains.

I'm starting to think it is very possible for Zeref to be the Dark Dragon Slayer also.

[xErzaScarlet]

no , i think Zeref possessed powers that he shouldnt have . he got the skills from some other evil guy , black dragon ?

[Igtenes]

So next chapter either Gajeel does something funny or he does something heroic. Either way we will get some LevixGajeel interaction which can't be a bad thing.
On a side note I wonder how GH found the island; is Mest carrying a GPS or something.

[ca12nag3]

Makarovs son is their leader, so he will know how and where to look.

[sarutobi_sensei]

And this page: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v20/c166/18.html kinda proves that Makarov has done this purposely.

Woot we got all the signs together now. Everything is going according to fate.

Now, only thin missing is what did Poliuska actually predicted?

[Krono]

Just for fun theory on Zeref.
What if he was indeed a good person all along but because of the extremity of his powers he was just feared? It could be said that a lot of details have been misinterpreted throughout history. People say things and misinterpret situations all the time, what if fairy tail history books were the wrong perspective. What if all the forbidden items were just attempts to seal away the dark powers. I know it could be very anti climatic if it were, but Zeref might not be FairyTail's main antagonist, and we're just lead to believe it is so. There are other people hinted as possible villains.

I'm starting to think it is very possible for Zeref to be the Dark Dragon Slayer also.

I suspect it's a little from column A, a little from column B. Mashima likes giving his villains sympathetic backgrounds, even if they are irredeemable. His success with his execution varies. Doryu from Rave Master comes to mind as one of the more successful examples.

Zeref might have started with good intentions, and been corrupted on down the line, or he may have started evil, and been later reformed but too late to salvage his reputation for the history books.

Another possibility that comes to mind is that what triggered the Nirvites destruction was trying to use Nirvana on Zeref with only partial success.
[hr]

I know she is. She was the first person to be introduced. Natsu is a main character, but not the main character of main characters.

Better yet, Natsu isn't the protagonist. Lucy is. So everything about her is important x)

Natsu was introduced first.

Natsu's introduction: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v01/c001/4.html

Lucy's introduction: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v01/c001/8.html

[sarutobi_sensei]

Natsu was introduced first.

Natsu's introduction: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v01/c001/4.html

Lucy's introduction: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v01/c001/8.html

Oh god. I'm @ a loss of words. :| (I failed hard):o

But the point is, Lucy and Natsu are the protagonists of the show x)

[Choutei]

What the hell, I don't even oO Here I was thinking that Zeref is an old, obsessed and sick on mind fart, while he's actually a nice guy who cares 'bout others (It wasn't probably always like this, but still). And The Black Mage is actually a good looking one, may I add. Mashima, for the first time in Fairy Tail and Rave Master history, mindfu*cked me. And with that The Trial Arc is imo the best one. Also, we can't really tell what's going to happen now (besides that there's a lot of fighting ahead and well, Gajeel) so I'm all revved up. Good job, Mashima-sensei, with the plot and 3 chapters in a week, I'm really curious now.
And, the way Elfman & Evergreen tricked MiraJane was brilliant. I laughed really hard on this one.

[Lectro Volpi]

That was a good twist for me, I thought that emo kid was just a normal antagonist.

Gildarts left... how convenient!

Grimoire Heart first? then Tartaros and Raven Tail are more... mysterious now?

That goat guy is Capricorn, maybe (I could be wrong) it is too obvious?

That fat guy looks like Fake Hat Zoro.

Fairy Tail is exciting again! I hope Mr. Mashima doesn't screw up the arc (the longer the arc, the more it decays... happens a lot to him).

[kkck]

Going through the bad guys again, I am curious about the guy that looks like a super saiyan and has a crazy look. He looks like an evil natsu or something. Wonder what his abilities could be....

[xErzaScarlet]

Its hard to say what can thing turns out to .
Zeref have this kind of magic whereby no one can get close to him .
So how is the evil guild going to capture him when he's magic is so evil ?
As in , Ultear and her guild itself are evil , they are going to seek something which is MORE evil , which is stronger than themselves . How can they actually achieve it ?

[elitefox]

I wonder if Zeref is out of his mind or is just playing dumb?

is he really a kid lol or just reincarnated to a kid but whatever the case is, I wonder how he knows natsu,... more intriguing is that mest knows zeref which makes him a spy too I guess.


Zeref is waiting for something that can kill him... and his vision or something that it is natsu? I'm confuse if he is a good or bad guy lol

[ghostexiled]

I am sure that the way to bring back the big bad Zeref, is by bringing him his toys that he made.

That is why Ur was interested in having those things that were made by/for Zeref in the previous arcs.

[Ero-Sanji]

Wait a minute?
If Zeref is already here, then why does GH want to break all seals? What if those seals are the ones keeping him "sane" instead of awake as I thought before.

Anyway, I hope Erza doesn't face Urtear, well, if she loses then I am OK with it. But otherwise that fight will be exactly like when Erza fought the Geisha. Urtear with the "Arc of time" magic destroy all of Erza's weapons until she brings out a ridiculous form and win.

[elitefox]

Wait a minute?
If Zeref is already here, then why does GH want to break all seals? What if those seals are the ones keeping him "sane" instead of awake as I thought before.

Anyway, I hope Erza doesn't face Urtear, well, if she loses then I am OK with it. But otherwise that fight will be exactly like when Erza fought the Geisha. Urtear with the "Arc of time" magic destroy all of Erza's weapons until she brings out a ridiculous form and win.

I wonder if Urtear can actually control the time of magic swords

or else Erza must go hand combat without anything :nosebleed

[meow79]

got a funny feeling that Natsu is the reincarnation of the 1st fairy tail guild master and zeref is natsu's brother in the previous life

[cleodux]

So next chapter either Gajeel does something funny or he does something heroic. Either way we will get some LevixGajeel interaction which can't be a bad thing.
On a side note I wonder how GH found the island; is Mest carrying a GPS or something.

I am looking forward for the next chapter, i can see GajeelxLevi moments coming... :D

I still think Mest is not a member of GH, he is in the island for different reason.

[xErzaScarlet]

Yeah , waiting for next chapter .
We have seen enough bad guy vs good guys .
Now with this Zeref , we have Good guys [Fairy Tail] VS Bad Guy [GH] and Neutral Guy [Zeref] Who doesnt want to kill anyone but cant help it because he cant control his skills .

[Zoro #1]

Have been coming here and reading the posts, I got a question is it possible for a person to have two types of dragon slayer power?

[Choutei]

^ It wasn't stated in the manga, but I doubt it. Dragon Slayer(ing?) is a really rare type of magic (let's hope not as "rare" as Lucy's keys). I doubt that Zeref is one, either. But I like the theory that the fake dragon slayer lacrima was created in order to stop The Black Mage. That's where Laxus may come in handy again.
Oh, by the way, I really do think that the hybrid guy from GH is a Capricorn, so Lucy's probably receiving another key by the end of the arc.

[Jet_Alone]

So we are back to the initial theory of the "dead" hand in Charle's premonition being Lucy's, since neither Natsu, and probably nor kana share "caring" feelings about Zeref.

[senewe]

regardless the epicness of the chapters, one thing for sure. Natsu and Gajael love to fight, Luffy loves to eat, man Mashima loves to draw..

[kazille]

I go with Gray vs Ultear.

[kkck]

^It has to be jubia vs urtear lol. Grey realizes who urtear is and starts chasing after her. Then in a fit of jealousy jubia beats her like there is no tomorrow.

[Zatono]

Jubia vs Urtear will probably end up being a repeat of Gray vs Jubia though lol. Jubia will lose (probably encased in ice) and then Gray will beat Urtear, only serving to intensify Jubia's want for Gray xD

[Lee-tyme7]

WTF?! Zeref is that boy? Here I thought he was a giant monster or a dark dragon becus of the size of the cave they opened up in the earlier arcs...or like some one stated he could of been some old fart evil wizard.
The question is what connection does Natsu have with Zeref? How did Natsu even met with Zeref in the first place? Plus what mysterious magic does Natsu scarf hold?
Mashima fool us again just when we thought Mest was gonna pass the 1st test, it turns out he might not even be a member of FT.

[kkck]

^What cave? You mean the place where deliora was? I don't think that would suggest zerref was anything but a mage.

[iamtenninja]

^It has to be jubia vs urtear lol. Grey realizes who urtear is and starts chasing after her. Then in a fit of jealousy jubia beats her like there is no tomorrow.

Very very Interesting match-up, I frankly forgotten about Juvia. I was more thinking that Erza could also be a potential match against Urtear given that this woman was responsible for driving Gerard crazy and go all kinds of evil to resurrect someone who turned out to be alive the whole time.

Gray and Juvia vs Urtear sounds pretty interesting though.

[OldSkOoL]

Jubia vs Urtear will probably end up being a repeat of Gray vs Jubia though lol. Jubia will lose (probably encased in ice) and then Gray will beat Urtear, only serving to intensify Jubia's want for Gray xD

Is there any proof that Urtear uses ice based magic?

[iamtenninja]

Is there any proof that Urtear uses ice based magic?

As far as we know, Urtear is able to use that time magic she displayed when she "worked" with Leon during the Galuna arc but it's quite possible for her to have more than just one magic type. Seeing how Ur was an Ice-user, I suppose being the "daughter" connects Urtear to Ice as well; despite being shoddy evidence.

[Igtenes]

So we are back to the initial theory of the "dead" hand in Charle's premonition being Lucy's, since neither Natsu, and probably nor kana share "caring" feelings about Zeref.

Yep, the hand belonging to Lucy seems like the obvious choice, although it is obvious that she can't die, that doesn't mean she can't be unconscious.
And in Charle's premonition you can see that Zeref's facial expression has changed, he doesn't look sad anymore.
He'll probably hurt someone to make Natsu see how important it is to stop him.

[rebornz]

i can't believe that the crybaby guy who have been looking for natsu is zeref.
i wonder why zeref is looking for natsu:notrust, before i thought that guy on the island is igneel who transformed into human:p

[elitefox]

i can't believe that the crybaby guy who have been looking for natsu is zeref.
i wonder why zeref is looking for natsu:notrust, before i thought that guy on the island is igneel who transformed into human:p

I think Zeref already told natsu that he wants to be broken or something... at least he murmured

we'll see if he has a split personality or is lost in memories like gerald(I don't even want to mention)