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ThEwOrLdEndSwItHmE
November 01, 2010, 03:44 PM
Apparently The Rinnegan Is The Kekkei Genkai Of The Uzumaki Family, Unless Of Course "Madara" Truly Did Give It To Nagato. However Assuming Its The True Kekkei Genkai Of The Uzumaki Clan, When And How Do You Think Naruto Will Obtain It.

Richo
November 01, 2010, 03:51 PM
Apparently The Rinnegan Is The Kekkei Genkai Of The Uzumaki Family, Unless Of Course "Madara" Truly Did Give It To Nagato. However Assuming Its The True Kekkei Genkai Of The Uzumaki Clan, When And How Do You Think Naruto Will Obtain It.

Rinnegan isn't bound to the Uzumaki clan, all ninja clan related to the older/younger brother of the sage of six path have a chance of achieving the rinnegan through genetics. It has been confirmed that the rinnegan is a genetic mutation which has a chance of 1 in a million of occuring (or less dunno). Naruto has also been under enough stress in his life to activate the rinnegan by now so if he hadn't gotten it by now he never will.

kenlil
November 01, 2010, 03:53 PM
you know that if NAruto gets them which will probably happen, i might actually put my fist through the computer screen and first class mail my foot to Kishimoto so that he get it in his ass on time and special ordered.

cno
November 01, 2010, 05:52 PM
I doubt Naruto will obtain the Rinnegan, he has the Sage's body not his mind.

The upgrade that he got via controlling the Kyuubi, will be similar to what Sasuke is going to get by obtaining the EMS. Just Sasuke is going to have the mind.

Dattebayo!
November 01, 2010, 06:26 PM
I don't think Naruto will gain the Rinnegan, appart from being a pretty weak storyline to go down, I think Naruto is unique enough to not even need them.. We haven't even seen the extent of his new powers!

Nonlife
November 01, 2010, 06:53 PM
It just feels disappointing it's come down to battle of the eyes/doujutsu. It's like nobody else matters but Sharingan/Rinnegan wielders (Not Byakugan, b/c for with all the "story development", it doesn't amount to "a hill of beans.")

lordHokage
November 01, 2010, 07:08 PM
I think all Uzumaki's were born with Rinnegan, and how they obtain it powers maybe problematic but having the Kyuubi sealed away inside of you, help a lot. :tem

kkck
November 01, 2010, 08:25 PM
Naruto will not necessarily obtain the rinnengan but I do think it is very likely he will end up getting the rikudo's power in some form or another. He already has the senju/uzumaki power so all that is left is the power of the uchiha. Perhaps he gets a sharingan implanted and adds his own power to replicate the rikudo's power.

Nonlife
November 01, 2010, 08:53 PM
Naruto will not necessarily obtain the rinnengan but I do think it is very likely he will end up getting the rikudo's power in some form or another. He already has the senju/uzumaki power so all that is left is the power of the uchiha. Perhaps he gets a sharingan implanted and adds his own power to replicate the rikudo's power.

Ohh, I do NOT want it to come down to "ONLY Sharingan can defeat Sharingan" scenario.

llamapie
November 01, 2010, 09:41 PM
I think all Uzumaki's were born with Rinnegan, and how they obtain it powers maybe problematic but having the Kyuubi sealed away inside of you, help a lot. :tem

No.

I'm going with Madara actually gave Nagato the rinnegan, it had nothing to do with his blood. But being an uzumaki is what made it capable for him to be a full fledged sage of the 6 paths.

The Uzumakis have been stated as canon to be direct descendants of the BODY, they do not have the eyes.

kkck
November 02, 2010, 12:01 AM
Ohh, I do NOT want it to come down to "ONLY Sharingan can defeat Sharingan" scenario.

I did not mean it that way. I meant it as the sharingan being the means for naruto to complete the rikudo's power, a power that transcends the sharingan.

Gwym
November 02, 2010, 12:08 AM
I am not sure if he will get it or not, but if he does...I'm sure that Madara will take credit for giving it to him and talk about it being apart of his plan.

Oathencrantz
November 02, 2010, 02:15 AM
Naruto has Sage Mode and Rikudo Mode; what more does he need? If the Rinnegan is added to the list, how is it going to be 'hard work vs genius' anymore? Already that concept is being stretched.

Bleda
November 02, 2010, 03:55 PM
If Naruto gets a rinnegan that is probably:

(a) When Sasuke use genjutsu of EMS on him

(b) Madara uses EMS + Rinnegan at the same time on him.

Judau Ashta
November 02, 2010, 05:03 PM
Itachi's gift will be a counter genjutsu that forces Sasuke to transplant his eyes into Naruto. Madara sees it as treason and executes Sasuke, the trauma forces the sharingan to morph into rinnegan in Naruto. :o

Montai
November 03, 2010, 12:51 AM
Don't you have to be intelligent to use stuff like Sharingan and Rinnegan. After seeing these last few chapters, I've come to the conclusion that naruto is far from intelligent.

Smerten
November 03, 2010, 11:58 AM
The Rinnegan cannot be the Uzumaki Kekkei Genkai, or Kishimoto would contradict Madara's story (which would be pointless). The one that told of the Rikudo's pupils. The older brother was gifted the power of the eye, and became the first Uchiha. It's reasonable to think that the Rinnegan was handed down through the clan through unknown means, untill Madara came along. The younger brother however, inherited the Rikudo's body. That means an incredible chakra and lifeforce. This was the first Senju. At one point in time, the blood of the Senju clan diverged and this is where the Uzumaki clan comes into play. They're extremely close relatives of the Senju.

So, are you seeing the point? The Uzumaki have inherited the body, so it's veeeery unlikly that the Rinnegan was their Kekkei Genkai. Of course, Nagato being an Uzumaki explains his great compatibility with the Rinnegan. He was also a descendant of the Rikudo. And that would also definitely mean that Naruto would be compatible with a transplanted Rinnegan, though I think it's unlikely to happen. At least not until the very end should Kishimoto choose the "Naruto will become the next Rikudo" path.

Fox666
November 04, 2010, 02:50 AM
Simply said, it would be lame if everybody has a doujutsu.

Zancrow
November 04, 2010, 10:42 AM
When will naruto get rinengan ? The answer is NEVER . Naruto wouldnt be naruto if he had a rinengan and we might not see those awesome frog eyes if his eyes transformed into the rinengan .. its the same as sasuke would not be the same without the sharingan ..

llamapie
November 04, 2010, 10:47 AM
Don't you have to be intelligent to use stuff like Sharingan and Rinnegan. After seeing these last few chapters, I've come to the conclusion that naruto is far from intelligent.

A ditz yes, blonde would be most accurate. Dumb? No. In a fight he is a genius and he always learns things in the most unique manners.

Also that whole dumb thing is a requirement by Shonen magazine for the main characters. Also it shows that people with blood lines are "smarter" by nature.

anrufen
November 05, 2010, 09:49 AM
Honestly...I can show logic of my own to prove Naruto will not have the rinnegan but in actuality its only because I really dont want the character to end up with the rinnegan! Its just gonna be tacky story writing!

Nonlife
November 05, 2010, 10:17 AM
Honestly...I can show logic of my own to prove Naruto will not have the rinnegan but in actuality its only because I really dont want the character to end up with the rinnegan! Its just gonna be tacky story writing!

(It's felt tacky since the author indiscrimately declared anyone with an EYE Kekkai Genki is the most superior of all ninjas). We have NO idea where Kishimoto is going to go. It's possible he may go that far - give Naruto the Rinnegan, to seal the deal with Naruto as the next ninja Messiah when he becomes the next RikuudoSennin.

ThEwOrLdEndSwItHmE
November 09, 2010, 07:50 PM
Rinnegan isn't bound to the Uzumaki clan, all ninja clan related to the older/younger brother of the sage of six path have a chance of achieving the rinnegan through genetics. It has been confirmed that the rinnegan is a genetic mutation which has a chance of 1 in a million of occuring (or less dunno). Naruto has also been under enough stress in his life to activate the rinnegan by now so if he hadn't gotten it by now he never will.

Well from what we saw the awakening of Eyes can happen at the strangest of times. For example Sasuke was not stressed enough to unlock them when his entire clan was murdered...but the simple battle with Haku seemed to do the job...If Naruto does gain the eyes...and im not saying he will, it could be triggered by something like Sasuke or Sakura dying.

anrufen
November 10, 2010, 12:50 AM
(It's felt tacky since the author indiscrimately declared anyone with an EYE Kekkai Genki is the most superior of all ninjas). We have NO idea where Kishimoto is going to go. It's possible he may go that far - give Naruto the Rinnegan, to seal the deal with Naruto as the next ninja Messiah when he becomes the next RikuudoSennin.

Yeah well, i am not saying its not possible, "KISHI CAN DO NO SUCH THING"...recent trend actually suggest that...well...he can! Its just an opinion! I wouldnt want to see Naruto gain the rinnegan!

kkck
November 10, 2010, 01:07 AM
Well, naruto already has HM, stole the kyubi's chakra even though he was already plenty strong and his similarity to the actual rokudo was already noted by the kyubi. So..... why wouldn't naruto get the rinnengan? Or maybe not the rinnengan but some other manifestation of the rokudo's power which would effectively make him an actual sage of the 6 paths? Kishi is clearly doing everything in his power to grossly overpower naruto so I do think he will get something at least related to the actual power of the rokudo.

hayateblitz
November 11, 2010, 09:25 PM
Well from what we saw the awakening of Eyes can happen at the strangest of times. For example Sasuke was not stressed enough to unlock them when his entire clan was murdered...but the simple battle with Haku seemed to do the job...If Naruto does gain the eyes...and im not saying he will, it could be triggered by something like Sasuke or Sakura dying.

Hm.. Actually, I think Sasuke did activate his sharingan on the night of the massacre. His fight with Haku was just the first time we've seen him activating it, but it was not the first time he has activated them :P

But that's besides the point. I'm sticking to the story of Mandara giving the rinnegan to Nagato as well. It just doesn't seem like something he would need to lie about. He could have easily said: "Finally, the rinnegan is mine!! Bwahaha" and no one would have reacted any differently.

Naruto is naruto - the ditz who likes to dream big and works hard to back up his claims. I agree with the earlier posters, if he were to suddenly get rinnegan, where is the hardwork in that? Besides, I like the frog eyes better :P Tho I don't think we'll ever get to see it anymore, now that he has a more reliable mode that also supplies huge amounts of chakra. So sad...

There is a possibility that Mandara may decide to implant Naruto with one rinnegan (assuming that he only has one implanted in his right eye socket). Tho not sure why he would do that, seeing that he wants the kyuubi's power. Making Naruto more powerful would just make it harder for him to be apprehended.

ThEwOrLdEndSwItHmE
November 15, 2010, 02:00 PM
Hm.. Actually, I think Sasuke did activate his sharingan on the night of the massacre. His fight with Haku was just the first time we've seen him activating it, but it was not the first time he has activated them :P

But that's besides the point. I'm sticking to the story of Mandara giving the rinnegan to Nagato as well. It just doesn't seem like something he would need to lie about. He could have easily said: "Finally, the rinnegan is mine!! Bwahaha" and no one would have reacted any differently.

Naruto is naruto - the ditz who likes to dream big and works hard to back up his claims. I agree with the earlier posters, if he were to suddenly get rinnegan, where is the hardwork in that? Besides, I like the frog eyes better :P Tho I don't think we'll ever get to see it anymore, now that he has a more reliable mode that also supplies huge amounts of chakra. So sad...

There is a possibility that Mandara may decide to implant Naruto with one rinnegan (assuming that he only has one implanted in his right eye socket). Tho not sure why he would do that, seeing that he wants the kyuubi's power. Making Naruto more powerful would just make it harder for him to be apprehended.


Assuming he had already activated them is blind spectulation unless either proven through the manga or from Kishimoto himself, I may be mistaken but i dont believe anywhere it states he awakened his sharingarn that night. And also lests not forget that Madara is not the sole character with the ability to implant eyes, if naruto were to obtain them through transplant several sources could perform this with your logic in mind...making him harder to capture.

SenninSage
November 15, 2010, 11:56 PM
I don't know where people keep getting this idea that the Sage's elder son had the Rinnegan, he absolutely did not.

He had a different design that was much more like Kushina's village symbol, or the design of the seal on Naruto's stomach. It was absolutely not a Rinnegan. It's a bit perplexing people still don't realize that.

hayateblitz
November 16, 2010, 01:40 AM
Assuming he had already activated them is blind spectulation unless either proven through the manga or from Kishimoto himself, I may be mistaken but i dont believe anywhere it states he awakened his sharingarn that night.

Found it (http://www.mangareader.net/93-408-11/naruto/chapter-403.html) <- Proof that Sasuke did awaken his sharingan on the night of the massacre.



And also lests not forget that Madara is not the sole character with the ability to implant eyes, if naruto were to obtain them through transplant several sources could perform this with your logic in mind...making him harder to capture.

I was more thinking that the only way for Naruto to get his hands on the rinnegan will be if Madara decides to give it to him. Not saying that no other character can perform an implant, or else we wouldn't be getting all these non-Uchiha sharingan users. Just saying that it is unlikely that Madara will willingly give Naruto the rinnegan.

The way I see it, there is a higher chance for him to get a hold of it (against Madara's will) if:
a) he defeats Madara
b) he finds the other eyeball somewhere.

This is of course, all assuming that what Madara say is true, that he indeed did bestow Nagato with a pair of rinnegan and was not a manifestation on Nagato's part. I don't see any reason for him to lie tho so...ya.

sage-tech-kage
December 05, 2010, 09:59 AM
Is anyone not aware of the fact that Naruto has yet to merge his new rikoudo and sage modes, and that is perhaps the key to him awakening the (true) rinnegan (by this I mean the swirl pattern found on naruto's stomach and the uzumaki crest).
When Jiraiya sensei speaks about the 4th Hokage's decisions, he makes reference to him being a once in a lifetime genius, and making any decisions that are well thought out and concise.
I've not yet touched on the fact that Naruto (i read somewhere that he) has the Heaven and Earth Seal, which looks as if he is the opposite to the Demon from the Reaper Death Seal in Chapter 515 page 3, perhaps Sage Mode is the last part to the equation to give Naruto the (true) Rinnegan.

mattiaildivino
December 05, 2010, 10:18 AM
he'll obtain it when he'll learn to use itachi's power(I think it's the sharingan,remember that Itachi with only a touch gave Sasuke the Mangekyou and Amaterasu to kill immediately Tobi). it will be the same as for Nagato: Uzumaki+ Uchiha=Rinnegan

hawaplop
December 05, 2010, 07:53 PM
Well from what we saw the awakening of Eyes can happen at the strangest of times. For example Sasuke was not stressed enough to unlock them when his entire clan was murdered...but the simple battle with Haku seemed to do the job...If Naruto does gain the eyes...and im not saying he will, it could be triggered by something like Sasuke or Sakura dying.

Sasuke did unlock the one tomoe sharingan when het met Itachi after seeing his clan murdered...
The Haku fight unlocked the 2nd tomoe...

xXan
December 06, 2010, 05:46 AM
Its 100% sure he will get it for me. As someone already said that GIFT that itachi had for him will play a part in this. The only reason as to why Itachi said he better hope he will never get it its because there must be some price of getting the rinnegan.

Yondaime Uzumaki
December 07, 2010, 09:46 PM
Rinnegan isn't bound to the Uzumaki clan, all ninja clan related to the older/younger brother of the sage of six path have a chance of achieving the rinnegan through genetics. It has been confirmed that the rinnegan is a genetic mutation which has a chance of 1 in a million of occuring (or less dunno). Naruto has also been under enough stress in his life to activate the rinnegan by now so if he hadn't gotten it by now he never will.

Ummm...there's a flaw in your logic. It hasn't been confirmed as a genetic mutation. Madras confirmed that it wasn't a genetic mutation when Kakashi said that it was. They assumed that it was because they thought of the Rikudo Sennin as a myth, until Madara confirmed his existence.

As far as all ninja clans related to the Rikudo Sennin, the same could be said about wielding the Sharingan as well, right? Wrong. There is obviously a reason why the Rinnegan has appeared within an Uzumaki, as opposed to a Senju, Hyuuga, Uchiha, etc. My guess is that the Uzumaki Clan is a combination of Senju and Uchiha blood, a clan created by the two clans; in a Romeo & Julie type of situation. It's already been established that the rinnegan requires the clans to manifest itself. WBesides, what are the odds of it showing up in another Uzumaki? It obvious that the Uzumaki blood is closer to the Rikudo Sennin than any other clans. There are only two people that have use the Rikudo Sennin's legendary jutsu. Nagato Uzumaki used them and Naruto Uzumaki apparently used his seal, although that's just speculation thus far.

steelwingcrash1
December 09, 2010, 08:59 AM
Wonder how Naruto will look like with his Rinnegan on (if ever)?

He will look a lot like Yahiko. Anyway, with those eyes on, can he still defeat Madara?

mattiaildivino
December 09, 2010, 01:47 PM
sorry my ignorance but what is the Uzumaki Kekkei Genkai?and when was it said in the manga?


thanks to "kkck",I didn't know that the kekkei genkai was the innate ability

kkck
December 10, 2010, 01:39 AM
sorry my ignorance but what is the Uzumaki Kekkei Genkai?and when was it said in the manga?

The uzumaki do not have a characteristic kekkei genkai. They are basically the same deal as the senju in that regard. Based on kushina and hashirama though, I would think there is a chance that those who inherited the rokudo's body have a chance to develop special abilities or chakra which could potentially include kekkei genkai. Still, neither senju or uzumaki have a characteristic nor recurring kekkei genkai.

MU Man
December 11, 2010, 11:15 AM
i heard the madara is one of naruto's annsesters (great great grand father) and his mom is from the gidy uzamaki clan witch a branch from the senji clan so he has the eyes and body of the sage of the six paths so he can be the sage of the six paths reincarnated

mattiaildivino
December 11, 2010, 11:44 AM
i heard the madara is one of naruto's annsesters (great great grand father) and his mom is from the gidy uzamaki clan witch a branch from the senji clan so he has the eyes and body of the sage of the six paths so he can be the sage of the six paths reincarnated

where did you hear that Madara is naruto's ancestor? believe me! he isn't. maybe he's a distant relative because boths of the clans discend from the sage.

Anonymous#2
December 14, 2010, 10:43 PM
Sharingan morph into rinegann when someone with a lot of yang chakra get it, in other word any senju that got also Uchiha DNA.

Look how Nagato hair turned from red to white when he used all his remaining chakra to use the heavenly technique ressurecting everyone in konoha.

The user might need both DNA to use it (senju/uchiha), maybe Madara gave a bit of his DNA to Nagato.. we'll see..

thats what i think.

elitefox
December 15, 2010, 02:10 AM
I doubt Naruto will obtain the Rinnegan, he has the Sage's body not his mind.

The upgrade that he got via controlling the Kyuubi, will be similar to what Sasuke is going to get by obtaining the EMS. Just Sasuke is going to have the mind.

mind if I tell you it is not the mind but the eyes only :D

depends, really... the fox is not a part of Naruto

I really want to see what a senju can do that they can pound a fully upgraded uchiha. :darn

xallisto
December 20, 2010, 10:51 AM
Naruto will get it, but it will be after its all over and he has selaed the Juubi inside himself.

donyusufahmed
December 20, 2010, 11:06 AM
Naruto getting the gan after god knows how many versions of the one hit ko rasegan, sage mode and now gaining limited control of the kyuubi, after all of madaras' story he gets the eyes...wait when the sage chose the younger brother to be his successor, did he inherit all of his powers? From what i understand the gan dwells between the Uchiha or the Senju clan, it would not go out of that circle.

Bigfoot187
December 30, 2010, 06:37 AM
What about he ain't gettin no rinengan :)
Uzumaki do have a kekai genkai as explained by kushina its their chakra its strong
and make sthem live longer. Thats how Kushina survived when the kyuubi was extracted.
Or Itachi put some sharingan hax jutsu on him so he suddnely gets sharingan and that in combination with his üzumaki chakra (sage body) makes his rinnengan. And then the Juubi is revived and naruto becomes his jinchuuriki.
I surely hope not :S