Fairy Tail 212+Special Discussion/ 213 Predictions

[Tsukisama]

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http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64823105/1

special chapter: http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/49082378/1

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[Unlucky Boy]

212 is here
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64823105/1

I wonder who's the 7th guy hidden behind the text bubble.
Mest is too predictable and he should still be on the island with Wendy, I think that's gonna be someone else from past arcs...

[wooticus]

ah nice to see that flashback of gajeel.

makarov seems to be totally shocked.. but well.. even pantherlily and charley were able to find that island..

but somehow i'm a bit disappointed.. looking at gajeels new attack his enemies should be shred into pieces..



anyone knows which bonus chapter mangastream is talking about?

[meepers4982]

i thought this chapter was really touching i liked the flashback part, it kind of puts gajeel into perspective and gave depth to his character. I liked how they used the two mages as a teaser before the seven kin, an excellent way to point out that they are extremely strong. I cant wait to the next chapter, this arc is getting more and more interesting.

[Rowel]

One member of the Seven Kin seems to be hidden from our view purposefully. :notrust

[elitefox]

seven kin?


if that was seven sin instead of kin

I think ultear will be lust :amuse:

[ghostexiled]

Well anything to do with Gazille... I am all for it! :)

I (know) hope that he heals enough to be able to give us a good fight with the actual big boys of the Dark Guild.

The flashback was nice and I agree it gives him more depth... it also shows how Makrov came to trust him to be a spy.

The way he got stabbed thru the arm and then broke it was freaking awesome!!

His new move was very intense as well... he made a huge sword by putting his arms together.

Makrov being shocked at there being enemies is not such a big deal... when you are on an island that you claim can't easily be found and having your guard down... would make anyone be shocked for the time.

Loving this arc and can't wait to see the rest play out. :)

[1337 haxor]

http://www.tudomesmo.com.br/receitas/aves/imagens/receita-de-chop-suey-de-frango.jpg

Courtesy of Gazille! :cookiehand

CHOP SUEY!!!

I love when badasses do pawnage! :pwned

The only downgrade of this chapter is to know that Mashima didn`t come up with something very creative for arranging GH`s main force.

EDIT:

Considering the seven sins my guess is:

Ultear -Lust (for obvious reasons)
Meldy - Sloth (because of her Ulquiorra like approach to battle)
Zancrow - Wrath (he fits with the burning enraged persona)
Kain Hiraku - Gluttony (this one is also obvious)
Rusty Rose - Pride (He looks the type who takes himself seriously)
Caprico - Envy (He may be envious of humans freedom and control over stellar spirits)
Unseen guy - Greed (If it`s Mest it would make sense if he is seeking higher places in GH by taking such sneaky missions)

[Dark-Jackal]

Although Gajeel won he's in pretty bad shape now from those fodder. So he may very well be sitting this arc out which really sucks. At least we got a new move out of him!

[Big Al]

Now THAT is more like it!

Nice flashback and new move from Gajeel, not overdrive but good attack. Get stabbed though the arm (ouch) and break it, is bloody awesome!!!

The 7th person, dunno who but I bet it Eisenwald :P

I don't think FT can beat the main force, I mean Gajeel beat the two lower mages and drop dead! Hell, Mr.Goat-swordman said he got no chance against the main force (I'll save my detail speech in other thread, later on).

We'll never know but wait to see. Am looking forward for it :)

[kkck]

I think fairy tail can defeat the main force. For one thing, the main force is outnumbered. For another, the fairy tail members there are the strongest in the guild. It will be a very hard battle but not something unreasonable IMO. Not sure as to what scale the battle will escalate though, perhaps they will give fairy tail a small beating and leave with zeref soon enough. Technically fairy tail should be the strongest legal guild around so a drawn out conflict would be unwise on part of grimmoire heart.

[Zoro #1]

I think fairy tail can defeat the main force. For one thing, the main force is outnumbered. For another, the fairy tail members there are the strongest in the guild. It will be a very hard battle but not something unreasonable IMO. Not sure as to what scale the battle will escalate though, perhaps they will give fairy tail a small beating and leave with zeref soon enough. Technically fairy tail should be the strongest legal guild around so a drawn out conflict would be unwise on part of grimmoire heart.

It is for sure that FT will beat GH though it would be hard battle, I was thinking is Dragon force only limited to Natsu or the other dargon slayer can use it to, because if they can i'm dying to see what kind of new tech. Gajeel would show.

[k-dom]

Well the seventh kin may be Mest that why we don't see him. I'm not sure the double spread represents what happens on board the ship. Does anyone now what is the raw for kin and what it means except the obvious similarity for sin.
The battle of gajeel was really intense I hope he can recover a little, the way he took a direct hit on his arm purposefully was impressive

An a more trivial subject, did we already see Bixlow without his armor in the previous covers ? I didn't pay much attention to them

[hongoasdf]

There's a tiny detail that bothered me...

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v14/c115/10.html
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64823105/1

Mashima forgot Bixlow's awesome face-tattoo.

Othe than that, it was a pretty decent chapter.

My obvious vote says the seventh kin is Mest.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

I liked the chapter.:) I really liked the flashback with the conversation between Makarov and Gajeel which made their characters deeper. Now I like them even more.
In terms of prediction I'd say that those Seven Kin should be at the S-class level. So I really think that it would be pretty tough for Fairy Tail, but it will give them the possibility to grow, especially for non-S-class members. I think that not everyone of Fairy Tail's mages will win their fights, so obviously some of the others like Natsu will have to improve even more. Also it can be that Grimmore Heart won't loose in strategic sense. Maybe some of the mages will fall, but they will fulfill their task by taking Zeref with them. Though it's really a bit difficult to predict.:)
About Gajeel... I don't think that he played bad against these two mages. Of course their level was strong, but the most important he understimated them and also they had a good teamwork. I'd say that he can play some role in the future of the arc, though he will be out of play for quite a while.:)

[Zatono]

The 7th one may be Mest, or it may not be. Somehow I get this feeling that we're going to get mind raped by Mashima again regarding the 7th one though.

[kkck]

Well, it does not seem like the seventh guy is mest unless there is a way for him to be at 2 places at the same time or the 7th guy is made up o two guys. Perhaps the seventh guy is using the technique gerard used to infiltrate the council under the guise of being seiglien.

[ghostexiled]

^That spread doesn't have to mean that was a picture in time of them all standing together... it could just representational of the 7 kin.

Meaning that it could be Mest.

[Evil3ye]

I found the Gazille flashback a bit meh to be honest, not to mention the cliche power-up afterwards. More interesting was the intro of the elite fighter, Seven Kin and the mysterious seventh guy. My money is actually on Mest, even if he's supposed to be on the island (as well :ninja)

[Bowser]

Hmm...anyone think Fried, Gildartz and co will return to fight? Gildartz always seems to miss the big battles so far. And Makarov will probably somehow be incapacitated again.

[Fê - forever alone]

Man, I liked the extra chapter more than the 212, I think I'm bit romantic today T_T.

But, you can get good information with it, besides that obvious Natsu♥Lucy.

This Natsu's habit of saving souvenirs items can be a way he found to not forget things anymore, because he forgot most things from his childhood, and all he knows is that Igneel taught Dragon Slayer magic and was his father. More than that he just can't remember right now, and with this habit he would never forget about important things anymore.

And, because of this, we can do more Dragon Slayer's theories, lol.
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I don't think it's Mest, but who knows?

[Razh]

Well, Gazille disposed of his enemies without much trouble. It may look like Gazille was a victim of a Worf effect (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect), but if you think about it, that samurai was the only one who did some real damage and that's only because his sword magic was a good counter to Gazille's abilities. It also shows that GH is really a dangerous guild. I can't imagine him being healed that soon. I don't think feeding him with iron can heal him completely. So, I don't see him joining the fight until late game, since Wendy is with Mest, and it will probably take time for her to reunite with the others.

Also, loved the special chapter. You can tell that Mashima really cares for his work, just like with Rave Master. Lold at Erza punching bag.:tem

Also, this device in the first panel (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/49082378/10). Could Natsu be using it to conquer his biggest weakness, lol? Sure it's small and could be used by Happy but in that context, seeing all the training equipment, first thing I thought of is - weakness training device!

[Rowel]

The 7th one may be Mest, or it may not be. Somehow I get this feeling that we're going to get mind raped by Mashima again regarding the 7th one though.

Based on next weeks chapter title "One of the Seven Kin" it's safe to say either the 7th member reveals himself or one of the 6 from the ship breaks off from the rest to enter the fight and clears away all resistance on the island.

My guess would be the first option and it being Mest (he was looking for Fairy Tails secret... maybe the key mentioned above by Cash)... though I'm doubt full of this since the 7th member, who was so "conveniently" hidden from view by the text bubble, seemed rather tall and Mest always came off to me a short to mid height. Though that was more an impression...

I don't really recall anything that clearly showed his height except him being next to Wendy (and all that proves is, like everyone else, he's taller than her)... Though Mest is the most likely 7th member by far.

Who knows maybe it's Earthland's sugarboy, he was kinda tall compared to Grey.

[Razh]

Well, it does not seem like the seventh guy is mest unless there is a way for him to be at 2 places at the same time or the 7th guy is made up o two guys. Perhaps the seventh guy is using the technique gerard used to infiltrate the council under the guise of being seiglien.

That pic is just a representation of 7 kin. I don't think it's in real time. I think at this point, we can freely assume it was Mest. The entire guild is attacking. Where could the 7th kin be if not on their ship or the place where they are attacking? I doubt that he went to the toilet at some point or that he's on the island but not introduced. Also, if GH needed someone to infiltrate Fairy Tail, who better than a member of the elite.

[Evil3ye]

Just read the special, was kinda cute ;3

Didn't know that we haven't seen Natsu's place until know though, was just a thing that didn't bother me at all. but yeah, was nice to see it in a special..

[Zoro #1]

Cracked up when saw the dummy with erza's name on it plus the pinata of erza.

[Zeltrax]

What if the 7th person is not shown because he's currently asleep/waiting to be awaken/inactive.
There's a high chance that the 7 kin refers to the 7 sins with each of them being an individual sin.
So I'm guessing the one that is not shown is the sin of the sloth
and when he awakes, there will be rampage.

Mest being one of them is 50-50, but I see Mest as a weaker character compared to them and I personally don't think so.

[Evil3ye]

I hope the Seven Kin are not referred to the seven biblical sins. We had that bit too often in Shounen Mangas lately. On the other hand I cannot think of anything else with the odd number of seven. One automatically starts thinking of the sins when seeing this number. why is that ;<

[Rowel]

Kain will fight Elfman/Evergreen
Caprico will fight Gray/Loke
Rustyrose will fight Mirajane/Lisanna
Zancrow will fight Natsu (too easy to foresaw fire vs fire, hope I'm wrong)
Meldy will fight Wendy/Mest
Ultear will fight Erza/Juvia
Unknow one will fight Cana/Lucy (what if the one who Cana is seraching for is actually this guy? )

Maybe Makarov will fight Hades, and lose.

[Aikidoka]

Actually, I looked up Purgatory on Wikipedia, and a search for the word 'seven' yielded that Purgatory has seven levels for each of the sins. So the Seven Kin of Purgatory may not signify the seven sins, but rather the punishments for each sin (the example given in the wiki for Pride was that those who are proud are weighed down by stones). Maybe one of the Kin has some sort of earth type magic or whatever.

Of course, Mashima probably won't follow it too closely, plus there's Ultear, who has Time magic. I can't imagine which punishment that would represent.

On the Short, it was a bit heartwarming (though predictable) that Natsu and Happy would end up at her house. The little shots and cameos in Natsu's house were nice too (thanks for pointing out the vehicle thing Razh).

[Unlucky Boy]

What if the 7th person is not shown because he's currently asleep/waiting to be awaken/inactive.
There's a high chance that the 7 kin refers to the 7 sins with each of them being an individual sin.
So I'm guessing the one that is not shown is the sin of the sloth
and when he awakes, there will be rampage.

Mest being one of them is 50-50, but I see Mest as a weaker character compared to them and I personally don't think so.

I also think the seven kin of purgatory might represent the the seven terraces of purgatory (the seven deadly sins), and that the 7th guy is the slothful. Going by that I think that might even be Zeref, as he was asleep for a long time.

We dont know much about the members of GH but I can guess-
Zancrow is most likely the wrathful.
Urteal is either the envious (her mother raised 2 other kids and not her for some reason) or the lustful for obvious reasons.
Hikaru is the gluttonous (well he is fat...) or maybe the envious (something about him saying "Ifeelthe same!")
Rustyrose should be the the covetous ("release, our desire").
Caprico is the proud I bet, stellar spirits tend to brag about their pride.
Not sure about Meldy...

[ghostexiled]

I for one don't think that they will represent the 7 sins... just on the fact that we really have not seen anything so far in the series that is biblical in meaning or whatever.

Sure it doesn't mean that Mashima couldn't start introducing Biblical themes... but my gut tells me it has no relations.

[Razh]

It's curious, and it doesn't have to mean anything, but that scar Mest has has the shape similar to their guild emblem pattern.

Also, in response to an earlier post, Mest may not give an impression of someone that strong, but we shouldn't really judge based only on appearances. He may turn out to be the strongest out of those 7. Well, at least we know that he has some magic that can make him disappear in an instant. As I theorized before, he may have some kind of teleportation or portal magic which has allowed him to bring in other GH members to the island.

[Ero-Sanji]

There's a tiny detail that bothered me...

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v14/c115/10.html
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64823105/1

Mashima forgot Bixlow's awesome face-tattoo.

Or it appears as he activates his eye-power.

Anyway, loved the chapter but it felt a little short IMO.
About the purgatory, well, with it Mashima has started to use biblical terms but I hope he can exclude the Seven deadly sins thing because it's overused by now. Although the punishment for those crimes would be interesting to see.

[kkck]

The purgatory thing would be interesting IMO but I don't think there are established purgatory levels or anything of the sort which would help us see the exact theme behind the members. I did read that penitence in purgatory can be based on the seven deadly sins so perhaps we will see a spin-off of that.

edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatorio#First_Terrace_.28The_Proud.29
I just found this on wikipedia. The whole structure looks remarkably similar to ID lol. Anyways, I think this could be relevant to what we will see from GH through the arc.
[hr]
On another note, I think there are 2 things which are particularly notorious about this chapter. The first one is that this is the first time gazille has shown a secret technique. Considering that so far we had only seen iron versions of natsu's techniques for the most part I would think this is a nice development. The other thing, which I happened to find hilarious, was this little guy on top of the chickens head (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64823105/16). Dunno why but I found the chick with the defeated sign hilarious.

[hongoasdf]

what if the one who Cana is seraching for is actually this guy?

I'm going with this.

The seventh kin being Mest is way too obvious, even for Mashima. When something's this obvious, he tends to plot twist the hell out of the story.

I'm still dissappointed he forgot Bixlow's face-tatto in the cover... I'll just assume it only appears when he uses his Figure Eyes.

[Razh]

Well, if the text bubble head guy is the one Cana is searching for then there would be no point in hiding his face, since we never saw how the guy looks either.

But you know, all of this may have something to do with Cana after all.

Also, maybe Bixlow's tattoo was only temporary. :p

[Evil3ye]

Text bubble guy as the connection to Cana's secret story? Hmm.. sounds interesting, but I pretty much agree with Razh, there would be not really a point in hiding his face.

Next chapter will be called One of the Kin, I'm wondering if it will be about the first match up or more like the introduction or something of the seventh bubble dude, hmm...

[kkck]

Interesting to note, sarcrow has a tatoo on his right shoulder. Wonder if that has any relevance.

[Razh]

I've been thinking... If anyone on Grimoire Heart has connection to Cana, it's probably her little sister Meldy! You heard it here first!

But seriously, that Meldy girl fits the profile of a character that turns to good after the arc. Maybe she was brainwashed or bears great hate towards the world because of a tragedy. If only we knew more of Cana's story. Maybe she even knows her sister is in GH. Anyway, I can't wait to see her reaction when she finds out GH is attacking. It may reveal a lot.

So yeah, I'm predicting that Meldy, Cana's sister, is going to become a part of Fairy Tail.

[Zatono]

I've been thinking... If anyone on Grimoire Heart has connection to Cana, it's probably her little sister Meldy! You heard it here first!

So yeah, I'm predicting that Meldy, Cana's sister, is going to become a part of Fairy Tail.



Mirajane vs Meldy - I can see this happening because Meldy, right now, seems like the person who has the highest probability of converting into a good person, and Mirajane is probably best suited to do that, besides Natsu of course.

Yeah I thought Meldy was going to convert to a good person too.

However, let's take your sister theory and run with it. Perhaps the person who's hand we see here (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v23/c201/18.html) is Meldy's? That's how Cana can tie into all of this, because her sister dies. As for Natsu...perhaps he ends up fighting Meldy, which seems very out of place, and she tells him something about her past? Natsu gets overwhelmed, and then perhaps she gets killed by someone, but I don't think it'll be Zeref.

[Evil3ye]

Meldy Cana's lil sister? Bit too far fetched if you ask me :tem
Caprio is probably gonna be the only member changing the guild afterwards.

Urtear and Cana looks bit a like though, how bout that? :jk

[kkck]

Well, the hand seems a tad on the small side so it would make sense if it actually belonged to a little girl. It'd be interesting if she was related to cana. I guess we have to wait and see cana's reaction to knowing grimmoire heart is in the island. It'd be interesting if her situation is similar to that of urtear. Urtear was separated from her mother when she was very young and made a part of GH(for some reason ur seemed to think she was dead). It is possible meldy was also separated in a similar circumstance and everyone thought she had died. That would explain why urtear was so nice to her, they have something in common and perhaps why even meldy seemed hesitant to fight.

[Sollum]

I've been thinking... If anyone on Grimoire Heart has connection to Cana, it's probably her little sister Meldy! You heard it here first!


Nope... i will pretend i didn't heard it :D

I bet next chapter will be about Speech Bubble Guy!

Furthermore, i think its time for bad guys to introduce Pure Dragon Slayer of their own, not some fake dudes.

At the moment we have Fire (fire), Metal (earth), Air (air) Dragon Slayers, so i guess avatar of water is next. Maybe there will be a ds who can boil Blood in other human bodies ^_^ Tho that ability would be a bit "Broken"...

But hey, maybe the SBGuy is actually Gildartz... Now that would be a twist!

[meepers4982]

the hand picture from 201 looks like they are wearing 3/4 sleeves, you can very slightly see it but its there so i dont think it will be meldy plus the hand seems like that of an adult. I dont think that the 7th member will be mest, as mentioned before it will be the person related to cana.

[Razh]

Text bubble guy...


I bet next chapter will be about Speech Bubble Guy!


Loling at how it caught on.:p

For some reason I really feel that I'm right with this Meldy stuff.

You never know with Mashima. Those of you that also read Rave Master (if you didn't, what are you waiting for, complete story with 296 chapters), know what I'm talking about. This arc may also include some previous sub plot, or a future one. That's the main reason why I'm not 100% sure that Mest = bubble guy.

Also, it would really suck if Gildartz was the bubble dude. They seem to be about the same height with a similar clothing style I guess. Also, he did leave kind of sudden... No! Just no!

[Unlucky Boy]

^ You know what would suck even more? If Gerard is the bubble guy! lol...

[exacta]

Very curious as to who the 7th guy could be. Someone mentioned Eisenwald.....well I do think Eligor will return eventually since Mashima made a point in story to let us know that he escaped. But I doubt it's him, plus I don't think he could reach that level in this amount of time........then again, Urtear is one of them and she lost to Natsu....though I guess she was holding back or was caught off guard or something.

Gerard better not be the bubble boy.:mad

Actually if he was, I'd probably end up hysterically laughing at this point....

I bet next chapter Zancrow engages someone. He seems to be the most eager to fight, and overconfident, so I think he'll be the first Seven Kin to fight. Gotta say, I loooooooove this arc.

[xErzaScarlet]

Okay , this chapter is interesting .
Looks like what is going to be followed by would hit climax and i am quite sure that Makarov is going to fight .
As for URTEAR , i suppose Gray / Natsu would be the one fighting her . [UR's Daughter + Galuna Island incident .
And i hope that Levy would be sent back to guild to ask for more assistance .
I wanna see Gildartz destroying the whole lot of them .
As for Zeref , i dont know how he is going to be but If Gildartz were to meet Zeref , He might be able to get some dragon information ,[Lost leg , liver etcetc] assuming Zeref is the Black Dragon Slayer .

[Riyuki]

I'd rather have Zancrow join the guild... I'd rather have another complete badass male character join the crew than another little girl... I mean we already got Wendy and Lisanna into the guild so it would be cool to get a character who seems badass like Zancrow to join.. I doubt it though since Zancrow seems like straight up crazy/evil >_>... but then again Gazille seemed that way as well.

Maybe as the story goes on more and more DS join FT? And then near the pinnacle of the story all of the DS who have joined the guild end up going on a Dragonslayer quest.. and everyone is shocked that information about the dragons is leaked and the DS are shocked to find out they are being sent out to slay the dragons that they have been searching for so long to see... would be a good idea I would think. After this major arc, maybe another one or so.. then a dragonslayer arc starts.

Natsu
Gazille
Wendy
Zancrow (Lava dragon slayer XD!)
couple others for DS arc

..just a crazy theory ;D

Oh and is anyone kind of surprised Gazille is so messed up just by taking out a couple weaker GH members...? I mean I know they were used to let the reader know that the 7 kin of purgatory are just THAT much stronger... but I think its weird Gazille (a dragonslayer) barely beat a couple of fodder characters... oh well.

[ghostexiled]

^I think that it has been stated before and I agree... I think that Gazille was caught off guard. I think the same would be the case if those 2 Dark Guild members ran into another FT party, rather than Gazille and Levy.

Plus the samurai guy was a pretty decent opponent to Gazille's abilities.

[1337 haxor]

Loling at how it caught on.:p

For some reason I really feel that I'm right with this Meldy stuff.

You never know with Mashima. Those of you that also read Rave Master (if you didn't, what are you waiting for, complete story with 296 chapters), know what I'm talking about. This arc may also include some previous sub plot, or a future one. That's the main reason why I'm not 100% sure that Mest = bubble guy.

Also, it would really suck if Gildartz was the bubble dude. They seem to be about the same height with a similar clothing style I guess. Also, he did leave kind of sudden... No! Just no!

Kind of crazy, I never heard Cana had a sister to begin with.

Anyway, it`s too early to jump the gun on anything regarding relationship between FT and GH members especially when the main plot seems to be focused around Zeref.

Wheter the bubble guy is Mest or not that doesn`t change the fact dude is a traitorous scum and making him part of the 7 kin would make him more threatening than just a random GH mage.

As far as I am concerned I want a true Dragon Slayer to show up because fake ones are overrused and they don`t make good opponents against real DS.

[Riyuki]

Yeah thats true they did get super caught off guard... plus these enemies werent brute strength they were more of a tricky kind of enemy.

[Zeltrax]

But seriously, that Meldy girl fits the profile of a character that turns to good after the arc. Maybe she was brainwashed or bears great hate towards the world because of a tragedy. If only we knew more of Cana's story. Maybe she even knows her sister is in GH. Anyway, I can't wait to see her reaction when she finds out GH is attacking. It may reveal a lot.

So yeah, I'm predicting that Meldy, Cana's sister, is going to become a part of Fairy Tail.

this, THIS. I've said this at the previous discussion of 211, but I'm going to say it again. Meldy is going to join.
The reason simply because she is probably an android, a machine that was made to fight, so she do not have any emotions.

This will go down the route of fairy tail teaching Meldy about relationships and emotions, etc. We've seen this alot of time in other mangas/animes/games where theres always this android who learns about emotions.
If Meldy join, we can finally have a first time technology fighter which uses guns, missiles, and all the technie weapons :oh.
Which is rather fresh for fairy tail.

I doubt she's Cana sister, I think of her more like an android with no ties whatsoever and built only to fight, she will learn about emotions later on.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Woooohooo! The entire force on the island knows of the impending attack on the island.

What Gajeel suffered must really hurt like hell! He just got a blade from the palm of his hand to his shoulder!

Well if he eats some iron he'll be fine right?

I liked seeing how it was Makarov that went to get him and he was still pissed of that he had hurt his nakama.

Damn Gajeel is officially one of the guild. Some people were skeptical about him, but damn, he proved that he ain't gonna let no one take down the guild.

Loved Erza's little speech in the end regarding the attack. Really looking forward to it.

Btw, 7 kin of purgatory. Normally kin are a group of things/people that are related by family or culture (kinsman kinda like clansman).

These guys sure look like they are of the same cult, even that girl who everyone is saying she'll change. I'm betting that she's the craziest one of the lot xD Probably bipolar or something x)

Also enjoyed the special chapter. Really good xD

Natsu's house was just like I had predicted all messy and stuff but he kept the things he values in a tidy and "safe" place.

And Lucy xD She was liek: ZOMG where the hell are they? Why are they taking so long?
GAHHHH they were in my house xD

[1337 haxor]

Meldy this... Meldy that...

I bet she is going to be the most popular character of 2011 not to mention miss lolicon of the year!
:dancin

Seriously that girl got the aura of ULQUIORRA!

The coldness, the wingtipped helmet and sheer nihilism which sets everyone off balance there is high chance she is quite the kick-ass of GH.

Considering that even Ultear, one major kick-ass of GH, holds her in respect, I don`t doubt she will prove to be one hell of a fighter.

Besides that she was the last one to be introduced and by shonen law this means something great.

I am hoping that she is a true DS whilist Zancrow is a fake one.

I can`t help but think of her stomping on the ashes of a defeated Zancrow who burned out trying to defeat Natsu only to state that fake DS are trash :ulq and that only true DS can face one another.

Man can dream right?

[sarutobi_sensei]

I'm with you on this one. I honestly believe that she is the most evil of the lot. Srsl her aura just tells me that.

Same thing with Ulquiorra, same thing with Teach, same thing with Kabuto, Sora from Air Gear, Justin from Soul Eater. These kind of characters have a unique taste around them.

What if the guy behind the bubble text is Guildartz? I mean, I honestly don't want him to be, cause the guy is too much bad ass to be a bad guy, but, srsl, it could be him.

But I hope he isn't. Probably Mest.

Did Wendy hear this announcement? I don't think we saw her right? So maybe on the next chapter we see her reaction and Mest's true face.

[ghostexiled]

^you could have a point there... with the next chapter having one of the kin step forward, it most likely will be Mest.

He will be revealed due to Wendy seeing the flare and then that is when Mest tells her that he has "other" plans for her. :kukuku

[darknezx]

I've a feeling it could be Gildarts, because it's too much of a coincidence that he left and suddenly the 7 Kins are coming. Then again I'll be glad if I'm wrong though!

[Igtenes]

I'm surprised that Makarov doesn't know why someone would invade their island, seems that some of the guild's secrets elude even him. So how come Hades knows about Zeref and Fairy Island? Maybe that seventh member of the Kin really is someone from Fairy Tail or a former member.

[swordsaintscoot]

urtears a dragon slayer

she uses ancient 'lost magic'

and she also disappeared when she was a kid.

dragon stole her obv.

[p1xel]

Nice chapter,i liked Gajeel battle,and now we will have a good battle. Special chapter was nice,the room of Natsu&Happy was obvious:D. And Lucy looked cute for a moment:P
I can`t wait to see who will fight with Natsu,Makarov and others.I hope they will fight in pairs so their chances would be higher,but there aren`t too many FT people to fight like this...i think so.
I`d like to have 3 FT chapters weekly^^

[Bakatron]

If we're throwing around random theories, what if the last guy is Laxus?

Just puttin' it out there :)

[Razh]

Kind of crazy, I never heard Cana had a sister to begin with.

Anyway, it`s too early to jump the gun on anything regarding relationship between FT and GH members especially when the main plot seems to be focused around Zeref.

Wheter the bubble guy is Mest or not that doesn`t change the fact dude is a traitorous scum and making him part of the 7 kin would make him more threatening than just a random GH mage.

As far as I am concerned I want a true Dragon Slayer to show up because fake ones are overrused and they don`t make good opponents against real DS.

Well, I never heard of Cana having a sister either, but her sad story might as well been about a lost family member. It's just my theory, but maybe she turns to booze because her sister is an evil mage, and becoming an S-rank increases her chances of encountering her. Might be far fetched, but not unheard of in shounen genre. Since I predicted it, I'm gonna stand by it now.

Also, I very much doubt that Cana's story was just thrown out randomly at the same time new arc was coming up. It's the same as with Zeref (random kid). He seemed to appear randomly before the arc even started, and suddenly he's in the center of the plot.

And Mest isn't a traitorous scum since it seems he was a GH member all along.
[hr]

If we're throwing around random theories, what if the last guy is Laxus?

Just puttin' it out there :)

I don't think it would have been possible for him to become one of the most trusted members of GH in such a short amount of time. Just sayin'.

[k-dom]

urtears a dragon slayer

she uses ancient 'lost magic'

and she also disappeared when she was a kid.

dragon stole her obv.

Yes but she's not over 80 like Natsu and Gajeel so it does not fit very well.

The title of next chapter implies that one of the kin is already on the island. That's another point for Mest being the 7th

Laxus has ended as a good guy, and I assumed his ambition was to become the leader of his own guild not become a subrank of a dark one.

[Razh]

Just remembered something from Rave Master. There were the guys named Guardians of the Gate with names that revealed their powers. Like Ltiangle, add ma and you get Multiangle, Rionette, add ma and you get Marionette. Don't want to spoil too much.

Anyway, it could be the same with Meldy, or should I say MelOdy. Maybe she has some musical abilities. If I remember correctly, we have yet to meet a mage like that. Not totally sure though.

[Zeltrax]

Well, I never heard of Cana having a sister either, but her sad story might as well been about a lost family member.

Also, I very much doubt that Cana's story was thrown out at the same time new arc was coming up. It's the same as with Zeref (random kid). He seemed to appear randomly before the arc even started, and suddenly he's in the center of the plot.



What are the chances of the Zeref, random kid being Cana's brother, instead of sister?
Its just another theory but I think they are related somehow, so he might be her brother too. I like how you say she turned to booze and stuff.
An argument can be present here though, that zeref is very very old.
However, that kid may just be a vessel or something.
I think he is Cana brother and vanished because he's used as a vessel or something for Zeref.
I think Zeref true form ain't so...chibi.

[kkck]

Just remembered something from Rave Master. There were the guys named Guardians of the Gate with names that revealed their powers. Like Ltiangle, add ma and you get Multiangle, Rionette, add ma and you get Marionette. Don't want to spoil too much.

Anyway, it could be the same with Meldy, or should I say MelOdy. Maybe she has some musical abilities. If I remember correctly, we have yet to meet a mage like that. Not totally sure though.

Well, that would be an interesting theory except that it would only work for meldy. Perhaps her name was actually intended to be melody and the problem is the only available translation we have.

[Razh]

Well, that would be an interesting theory except that it would only work for meldy. Perhaps her name was actually intended to be melody and the problem is the only available translation we have.

I didn't even mention anyone beside her. Just putting it out there for discussion. If the author did something like that in his previous work, he could have done the same here. Frankly, I didn't notice any musical theme about her. Maybe if you stretched it, you could say that she's wearing head phones lawl.

[tobeulp]

Fairy Tail surely dominates jump this past weeks and I think this arc will be big and I hope it will lead to a much bigger arc...

[Akiyama]

Here's the cover that wasn't provided in the scan of the special chapter.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/MH/th_Mag_Special_12.jpg (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/esker08/MH/Mag_Special_12.jpg)

[k-dom]

Fairy Tail surely dominates jump this past weeks and I think this arc will be big and I hope it will lead to a much bigger arc...

For a non jump serie that's quite impressive indeed :-)

Well with the apparition of characters we heard from the begining of the serie, it's normal that we anticipate something big
Concerning next chapter, I expect the fairy tail members group together except for wendy (we didn't see her reaction to Erza warning). Also since I suppose Mest is the kin in question, we should learn more about his abilities and motivations to partern with her

[Dark God Zeus]

If we're throwing around random theories, what if the last guy is Laxus?

Just puttin' it out there :)

After he's expelled he realized what a fool he was. He is not going to join a dark guild...he cares about Fairy Tail. If anything (I hope this doesn't happen though), Grimoire Heart stomps Fairy Tail, and Gildartz comes back with the raijinshu (minus Evergreen, plus Laxus) to provide back up to force Grimoire Heart away, but perhaps with their mission completed.

[1337 haxor]

Holy random shower Batman! There are theories poping everywhere!

One interesting thing about Meldy is that her name can be spelled as Meredy, a variation of Meredith, which means "Great Lord" in Welsh.

I hope this isn't coincidence or just someone overthinking stuff but this leaves me even more intrigued as to what she is capable of.

[Evil3ye]

Meldy as Great Lord? Well always found it bit odd that she was the only one shown with the bunch no names while introduction http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/13201562/10

Maybe she indeed is some kind of the leader of that sub army. Or its part of her magic.
Interesting was also Urtear's comment, whether Meldy can fight or not.

Together with this weird Kain Hikaru she's the most mysterious member so far.. Apart from Text bubble dude of course :p

[Shadow Limiter]

urtears a dragon slayer

she uses ancient 'lost magic'

and she also disappeared when she was a kid.

dragon stole her obv.

I don't think she is a Dragon Slayer because it is already revealed that the "Lost Magic" she uses is the "Arc of Time" (which according to her was lost and forbidden because of the power that magic held & also the side-effects the users body had to endure).

Do you really think there would be a dragon out there in there world which could control time. Also what would the dragon slayer of time eat to replenished themselves.

Another point to be noted is that we know about her mother who only died a 10 years ago, not like Natsu, Gajeel & Windy whose real ages are still in question.

From what i understand, the "Dragon Slayer" magic is also a type of "Lost Magic" but there are a lot other types as well which includes the "Arc of Time".

There is also the fact that "Dragon Slayer" magic seems to be connected to elements (like Fire, Iron, Wind) rather than something that controls the universes (i.e., matter, space, time).

Now based on the present chapter, i think that each of the 7 Kin are going to be users of "Lost Magic" and 1 or 2 of them could also be "Pseudo Dragon Slayers" as well (it doesn't look like anyone of them could be a pure "Dragon Slayer" except maybe for the last hidden one).

As for the case with "Zeref", the more i think about it, the more it feels to me that "Zeref" might not have been an Evil mage like the story so far has suggested. Rather it seems to me that he is controlling or protecting the world from something far more dangerous than the power he himself has.

[Razh]

Meldy as Great Lord? Well always found it bit odd that she was the only one shown with the bunch no names while introduction http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/13201562/10

Maybe she indeed is some kind of the leader of that sub army. Or its part of her magic.
Interesting was also Urtear's comment, whether Meldy can fight or not.

Well, they were shown before in the background. They all vary in height so I think they're just lower ranked guild members. I don't think Mashima had Wales in mind when creating Meldy. But sure, maybe.

Oh well, since I started my church anyway, I'll say that Meldy knows that her sister Cana is in Fairy Tail and hence Urtear's question. Like this:

Can you fight? = Are you comfortable going after your own sister?
Fight... Yes. = Not totally sure, but something happened that screwed my emotions up so OK.

Join my church, you know you want to! ;)


Together with this weird Kain Hikaru she's the most mysterious member so far.. Apart from Text bubble dude of course :p

Lmao, I kinda wish he remains unknown for at least 2-3 chapters. Don't kill the text bubble dude!!11
[hr]


Do you really think there would be a dragon out there in there world which could control time. Also what would the dragon slayer of time eat to replenished themselves.


Clocks?

[Evil3ye]

no way man. not untill Mashima said they are :lmao

Oh and text bubble dude will always be text bubble dude.. in our hearts :love

Actually, I looked up Purgatory on Wikipedia, and a search for the word 'seven' yielded that Purgatory has seven levels for each of the sins. So the Seven Kin of Purgatory may not signify the seven sins, but rather the punishments for each sin (the example given in the wiki for Pride was that those who are proud are weighed down by stones). Maybe one of the Kin has some sort of earth type magic or whatever.


mind giving a link to that? I found that thought quite interesting, failed to find anything about the punishments on my own tho..

[kamakazi_1996]

i think it was a pretty good chapter gajeel learns a new move and the real big war with grimiore heart begins but does this mean that the exams are over? i would b really annoyed if no one becomes sclass and the xtra chap about natsus house make LMAO i think something may be happening between lucy and natsu

[Razh]

I'd expect most of them become S-ranks after they survive this shit.

Also, I don't think FT can win this one, only survive to fight another day.

[Evil3ye]

To be honest I'd appreciate a loss in this case. I don't want the story to go just like in the Oracion Seis arc. That'd be just dull.

And why would one care about the S class exam just now :D Though I agree with you, I don't think it'd be that unlikely if Maro (what was his name again?) rewards the outstanding fighters with a S class promotion.

[Ero-Sanji]

So, one of the "Kins" is going to be the center of the next chapter. I guess it's between the Speech bubble guy as a completely new character or it will be reveled that Mest is the 7th member. I actually hope that Mest is his own party since that would bring a new and more interesting flavor to the feast.

I've also done some research into the Purgatory realm and it doesn't seem like this is what Mashima has in mind.

Lust - Walk through fire. Fire-related then.
Zancrow is most definitely the one to stand for this "punishment" or should I say purging? The one to face him would obviously be the lustful Lluvia. The long awaited fight could be close, which is superior fire or water?

Gluttony - Force-fed with snakes, toads etc(?) or starved. Food related...?
I have no idea to whom this power applies... I wild guess would be the goofiest which is Kain(?). Does Fairy tail have a gluttonous character? Maybe it will be Natsu.

Greed - Forced to lay down to face the earth. Gravity or earth powers.
Gravity is a strong power and should fit perfectly on the (to the appearance) prodigious Meldy. Her wings could indicate on her abilty to fly, with the help of her powers. Greed, Cana?

Sloth - Ceaseless activity. Perhaps this is time?
If it is time then it's obviously Ultears dominion. Her opponent would be someone lazy.

Wrath - Forced to walk in acrid smoke. So, smoke related powers?
If I had to choose between Rusty and Mest of which one to have the smoke power I would go for Rusty. He also seems calm and collected as the opposite of anger.

Envy - Eyes sewn shut. Darkness? Illusions?
Mest master of disguise, I think.

Pride - Forced to carry large stones. Earthly powers.
Capricos power. The Capricorn is an earthly zodiac sign and in swedish the Capricorn is called "Sten(stone)-bock(male-goat)". The natural habitat for the animal is also in mountains, Kinda like how Scorpio fires sandbeams. Of course he will face of against the proud lion.

Sigh! Now I have got that out of my chest but as you can see I find it hard to believe that this is the way Mashima thought of but it would be great if he did managed to cook something up from this.

[scareChinaman]

Hades is probably the 7th member but we'll see I doubt hes just going to fight a random member of the group.
Also its important to note the S class trial got cancelled apparently nice way to opt out so Cana can stay in the guild.

[swordsaintscoot]

Just because the exams over in an official capacity doesn't mean their display against Grimoire Heart won't get them promoted to S-class.

Also, Erza has purgatory armour.

[Razh]

I imagine once the business with Grimoire Heart is finished, Makarov will do something like Dumbledore did in first Potter announcing the winning house. Instead it's going to be about members that received S-rank status.

[k-dom]

mind giving a link to that? I found that thought quite interesting, failed to find anything about the punishments on my own tho..

I think you will find more information on that by looking for the Divine Comedy of Dante. Actually that's where the 7 sins platform come from

[MechR]

I vote nobody becomes S-class due to the Council disbanding the guild.

[Zeltrax]

So, one of the "Kins" is going to be the center of the next chapter. I guess it's between the Speech bubble guy as a completely new character or it will be reveled that Mest is the 7th member. I actually hope that Mest is his own party since that would bring a new and more interesting flavor to the feast.

I've also done some research into the Purgatory realm and it doesn't seem like this is what Mashima has in mind.

Lust - Walk through fire. Fire-related then.
Zancrow is most definitely the one to stand for this "punishment" or should I say purging? The one to face him would obviously be the lustful Lluvia. The long awaited fight could be close, which is superior fire or water?

Gluttony - Force-fed with snakes, toads etc(?) or starved. Food related...?
I have no idea to whom this power applies... I wild guess would be the goofiest which is Kain(?). Does Fairy tail have a gluttonous character? Maybe it will be Natsu.

Greed - Forced to lay down to face the earth. Gravity or earth powers.
Gravity is a strong power and should fit perfectly on the (to the appearance) prodigious Meldy. Her wings could indicate on her abilty to fly, with the help of her powers. Greed, Cana?

Sloth - Ceaseless activity. Perhaps this is time?
If it is time then it's obviously Ultears dominion. Her opponent would be someone lazy.

Wrath - Forced to walk in acrid smoke. So, smoke related powers?
If I had to choose between Rusty and Mest of which one to have the smoke power I would go for Rusty. He also seems calm and collected as the opposite of anger.

Envy - Eyes sewn shut. Darkness? Illusions?
Mest master of disguise, I think.

Pride - Forced to carry large stones. Earthly powers.
Capricos power. The Capricorn is an earthly zodiac sign and in swedish the Capricorn is called "Sten(stone)-bock(male-goat)". The natural habitat for the animal is also in mountains, Kinda like how Scorpio fires sandbeams. Of course he will face of against the proud lion.

Sigh! Now I have got that out of my chest but as you can see I find it hard to believe that this is the way Mashima thought of but it would be great if he did managed to cook something up from this.

Since it has come to this, let me state mine too.
I believe that the 7 kins are not referenced after punishment but more like the sin itself.
Just like Full Metal Alchemist, where Homuculous are greedy, envious, full of pride, etc.
If you look at it that way,

Lust- Zancrow or Urtear. Urtear for obvious reason :darn..
Zancrow, lust for blood, lust for fight or something like that? I know lust is something used for sexual needs or something..but apparently there are people who have the lust for other things.
Zancrow looks like an insane killer who wants blood and will probably enjoy fighting or something.
For Urtear on fairy wiki, "This could connote that Ultear is based of the sin Lust as in the bible many females associated with lust are masters of deception" . I agree, she's manipulative O_O so.. one of them is lustful.

Gluttony- The fat guy..for obvious reason.

Greed- The guy with glasses
Guy with glasses seem like a high class society guy who wants everything.
He dress materialistically..
ha, what the hell am I talking about. Okay, he looks greedy, at least thats what I think.

Envy- Caprico.
Envious of other people with masters?
He's one of the spirit right? So something must have happened to him to be without a master. Maybe he is envious of all the key holders and spirits with master? That may have made him into what he is today.
Too far fetched but still possible.

Sloth- the 7th guy
Like I said, the 7th guy is sleeping/inactive and is freaking strong when he wants to fight or when he awakens.
I think the 7th guy is too lazy to give a damn at this point. I still stick to my theory that he is NOT mest.

Pride- Meldy or guy with glasses.
I was guessing, Zancrow too. But he looked more like the freaking insane stupid kind than the pride kind.
Guy with glasses, like I said, he look like a noble and very Loki kind of guy.
We all know that Leo has a lot of pride in them and so if he's fighting Loki, I think he's full of pride or something.
Seems stupid but well, still possible.

Meldy because she has no emotions whatsoever and is an android.
When you are proud/full of pride, you rarely let your emotions show.
Apparently, meldy might be full of pride because she's one of the greatest creation in the world.
Or it may be just due to the fact that she has no emotion.

Wrath- Zancrow.
He looks like the mad kind, like I said, the chances of him being wrath is higher.


Whew, I'm done and wtf at all that i've typed.
I may be thinking too much, this is fairy tail afterall.

Maybe Zancrow is the fake dragon fire slayer and will own Natsu and kick his ass the second time he is on the island, first my gildart.

[elitefox]

Although Gajeel won he's in pretty bad shape now from those fodder. So he may very well be sitting this arc out which really sucks. At least we got a new move out of him!



Well, all DS can regenerate if they ate their own element


so a bit of IRON from levy will make sure he fights again.


and I think this combo of them kinda make them invincible :D


ultear vs natsu? :amuse

for the second time around


or ultear vs gray? for her master to get ultear to the right path :darn

[ghostexiled]

I edited the thread that was titled "Grimoire Heart vs. Fairy Tail"... to now be a Everything Grimoire Heart (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65564) related thread.

Please use this thread to continue any talk concerning them... this would include the theories behind the "7 kin" deal.

Thanks!

[Riyuki]

Um... these theories about Gildarts being the 7th member is a bit silly IMO... I mean really, come on >_>.

That's like saying Grey is actually Zeref in disguise.

[Razh]

Um... these theories about Gildarts being the 7th member is a bit silly IMO... I mean really, come on >_>.

That's like saying Grey is actually Zeref in disguise.

The theory that Gildartz was a text bubble dude was more of a joke than a real theory. Don't ruin it for us.

And who can say for sure about Zeref. He's like Voldemort of Fairy Tail. First he's sealed, then he has possessed Gerald, and now he's that youngster on the island?

I kinda hope that Zeref doesn't become a center villain. I like the story more when there are multiple bad guys then when there's one super bad guy.

[Evil3ye]

The young Zeref dude was super strange. I seriously don't wanna have a suicidal mmail villain. But on the other hand I don't really believe that he'll stay in this form for the whole arc.

But I kinda forgot why Grimoire Heart is tracking him down in the first place :sweat

oh and gratz Razh :hug

[Bhoot]

http://www.mangareader.net/135-58826-25/fairy-tail/chapter-212.html

Uhm did anyone else see Erza's doll hanging on the ceiling ???

Seriously what did he do , practice hitting it to take his anger out on Erza??

Edit , there is also a punching bag with Erza's name on it .

[Razh]

Yeah, we all saw it.
Try reading some previous pages before asking if anyone else saw it. The discussion will just go in circles.
Also, in that same link of yours there's a device with which Natsu is training to overcome his vehicle weakness. At least it seems so. I love those small details.

[Griffithpt]

So, they found Fairy Tail's secret island, and one of the members seems to be hidden.

The only character I can think of from their past, that turned their back on them, that would certainly know about the island, is Luxus.

[Krono]

So, they found Fairy Tail's secret island, and one of the members seems to be hidden.

The only character I can think of from their past, that turned their back on them, that would certainly know about the island, is Luxus.

Luxus's father Ivan would know as well. Makarov mentioned he tooks some sensitive information with him when he left, and Ivan does not seem to be above selling said information.

[swordsaintscoot]

I like the idea of Zeref not being as bad as he's made out.

In almost any story, I love the good guy gone bad, then the 'redemption arcs' that follow it. Gazille. <3

[Unlucky Boy]

So, they found Fairy Tail's secret island, and one of the members seems to be hidden.

The only character I can think of from their past, that turned their back on them, that would certainly know about the island, is Luxus.

They could find the island because the protection spell around it was lifted for the exam.
That's how Charle and Lily found it as well.

[Razh]

They could find the island because the protection spell around it was lifted for the exam.
That's how Charle and Lily found it as well.

Those 2 had a map, it seems.

Also, how do you suppose Grimoire Heart could have discovered Tenrou island from miles away? Even if they had a giant telescope, they would still have to know where to look. That's why them having a man inside is the only possible explanation, and it's most likely Mest.

I just had an idea about Mest. If his magic is really about illusions or deception (like in purgatory), then it's possible that that scar on his face is not really a scar, but a Grimoire Heart tattoo. One side of the emblem anyway. Just an idea.

[kkck]

I agree, mest definitely have something to do with grimmoire heart finding the island.

[Unlucky Boy]

If a map is all that needed to find the island than it's not hidden at all...

I still dont think Mest is part of GH (and if he is I would be a little disappointed cause I like how Mashima tangles many stories into one arc) and I dont think GH are even surprised to find Zeref on Tenrou island. They probably just sensed his magic (which is supposed to be the strongest and darkest in the world, shouldnt be much problem). Moreover, I think Zeref might even be the 7th kin.

[elitefox]

If a map is all that needed to find the island than it's not hidden at all...

I still dont think Mest is part of GH (and if he is I would be a little disappointed cause I like how Mashima tangles many stories into one arc) and I dont think GH are even surprised to find Zeref on Tenrou island. They probably just sensed his magic (which is supposed to be the strongest and darkest in the world, shouldnt be much problem). Moreover, I think Zeref might even be the 7th kin.


7th kin - amnesia :D joke

well might be, it is already an assault meaning they have already located them but it would compromise the objective of retrieving zeref :darn

[swordsaintscoot]

saying zeref is the 7th kin is the same as saying zeref says he has 6 equals and a master named hades. yeah right/

[Razh]

It's kinda too much. Even if that robe dude was one of the 7th kin and partly possessed by Zeref, it still wouldn't explain shit about how he ended up on the island in the first place or how he knows about Natsu.

If anything, from the way he spoke, it seems that the youngster has some kind of knowledge of future, or is a time traveler. He hoped Natsu was going to be strong enough to kill him, but then concluded it was too soon.

I think this story is going to get a lot more complicated soon.

[Ero-Sanji]

If a map is all that needed to find the island than it's not hidden at all...

I still dont think Mest is part of GH (and if he is I would be a little disappointed cause I like how Mashima tangles many stories into one arc) and I dont think GH are even surprised to find Zeref on Tenrou island. They probably just sensed his magic (which is supposed to be the strongest and darkest in the world, shouldnt be much problem).

Mest and Grimmoire hearts were the only ones who sensed him. Don't you think that's a little suspicious? I mean even Makarov the great didn't sense him. The moment when we saw Mest noticing the dark lord we saw the Ultear confirming that they have found him. This to me is most definitely strong evidence that Mest is a part of the GH. but you never know:amuse

[ghostexiled]

Maybe the 7th guy is Erigor from Eisenwald... there has to be a reason why Mashima would allow him to flee like he did, right? :p

But most likely not unless he got some kinda Hellva power upgrade.

[Razh]

That would put the anime team into trouble since Natsu just pummeled him again in last episode. :darn

[Unlucky Boy]

Mest and Grimmoire hearts were the only ones who sensed him. Don't you think that's a little suspicious? I mean even Makarov the great didn't sense him. The moment when we saw Mest noticing the dark lord we saw the Ultear confirming that they have found him. This to me is most definitely strong evidence that Mest is a part of the GH. but you never know:amuse

Well of course they would sense him the same time, they could do that when he activated his magic.

It's like when Mira first transformed into her demon form, people who didnt see it before like Fried asked what is that massive amount of magic? But Erza could sense from a distance that it was Mira.
It only means GH and Mest both somehow know Zeref's magic.

If Mest is actually part of GH it doesnt make sense to me that they sent him on another job when they're looking for Zeref (he didnt know Zeref was on that island), and the coincidence of his other job being in the same place they are headed to is too great.

[Ero-Sanji]

Well of course they would sense him the same time, they could do that when he activated his magic.

It's like when Mira first transformed into her demon form, people who didnt see it before like Fried asked what is that massive amount of magic? But Erza could sense from a distance that it was Mira.
It only means GH and Mest both somehow know Zeref's magic.

Actually it's not the same, since that would indicate that (for instance) Erza would have felt Zeref as well, yet she didn't. Well, let's say she did but off-screen then how about Wendy?

It seems very far fetched that two different parties felt his dark magic yet non of the Faries didn't, don't you agree?

Mest, IMO is the only one who has that sensing ability, sensed the guy and then reported back to HQ.


If Mest is actually part of GH it doesnt make sense to me that they sent him on another job when they're looking for Zeref (he didnt know Zeref was on that island), and the coincidence of his other job being in the same place they are headed to is too great.

The search for Zeref was an ongoing mission. Mest was not instructed to search for him, he had another mission concerning Wendy. However, I think he just got lucky and found him and reported it back.

Think of it, Zeref released that death power before against the wolves, yet, they didn't find him. He releases it again only this time Mest finds him and then we hear GH finding him too.

[Razh]

If Mest is actually part of GH it doesnt make sense to me that they sent him on another job when they're looking for Zeref (he didnt know Zeref was on that island), and the coincidence of his other job being in the same place they are headed to is too great.

It makes sense if they had a reason to suspect Zeref was there, but they couldn't be sure about it.
As I said, there are still a lot of factors here we don't know nothing about.

Plus there's this page, which seems to show that Mest wasn't too sure that Zeref was there. (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/14)Then there's the next page, which shows Urtear playing with her orb (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/15). I don't remember how it when in manga, and it would be a trouble to look for it now, but in anime, she used it for communication.

So unless there's any other reason to doubt Mest is working for GH, I think we're done with that.

EDIT:Thnx for skipping my post Unlucky Boy.

[Unlucky Boy]

Actually it's not the same, since that would indicate that (for instance) Erza would have felt Zeref as well, yet she didn't. Well, let's say she did but off-screen then how about Wendy?

It seems very far fetched that two different parties felt his dark magic yet non of the Faries didn't, don't you agree?

Mest, IMO is the only one who has that sensing ability, sensed the guy and then reported back to HQ.


The island itself is full of magic- http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v23/c203/15.html
They might had sensed something but could relate it to a certain mage cause they dont know that kind of magic so they assumed it is part of the island's magic.


And about the barrier thing- you can see here Mest saying the barrier is USUALLY hiding the island, meaning it is not activated during the exam.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v24/c207/21.html

[MechR]

That would put the anime team into trouble since Natsu just pummeled him again in last episode. :darnNah, that's okay. They can just say he escaped again :p

[Kuzumikun]

the 7th member could be someone we already know that's why they covered his/her face

OMG i loved the special!
natsu is soooo sweet! XD

[kamakazi_1996]

its obvious mashima doesnt want us to know about the 7th kin, i doubt its mest seeing as how he is with wendy on the island right now and there is no reason why mashima would hide his face.
my prediction:
- zeref knows something about igneel and knows natsu when he was little
- natsu will become an sclass mage
-natsu will team up with gajeel,wendy and gildartz to find the dragons in the next arc
but these are just predictions

[Ero-Sanji]

its obvious mashima doesnt want us to know about the 7th kin, i doubt its mest seeing as how he is with wendy on the island right now and there is no reason why mashima would hide his face.

I think there is a legitimate reason for him to not show Mest and that is if he wants to potray Mest as a third party for as long as he can and then reveal the big surprise. However, I would like to see Mest as a third party:amuse

[k-dom]

Where do you think the animals mage come from. It seems that Grimoire heart has lots of them since Capricio is one of the 7 kin. Are they demons like the ones from Galuna islands ? They don't really feel similars.

[Razh]

It makes sense if they had a reason to suspect Zeref was there, but they couldn't be sure about it.
As I said, there are still a lot of factors here we don't know nothing about.

Plus there's this page, which seems to show that Mest wasn't too sure that Zeref was there. (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/14)Then there's the next page, which shows Urtear playing with her orb (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/52511650/15). I don't remember how it when in manga, and it would be a trouble to look for it now, but in anime, she used it for communication.

Too bad I have to repeat this post, but can anyone remember or find the link about Urtear's orb in the manga?

[ca12nag3]

Every now and then there is a animal mage or a brickhead showing up. Nothing odd for Mashima.

As for the 7th member its highly likely its Mest. Or at least someone we have seen before and as we can see part of his upper body, its a male.

To me it seems like Caprico could be a Zodiac, like Leo.

As far as it seems that Zeref guy isnt the dark lord Zeref so perhaps they need someone with healing powers like Wendy to do something special to get the dark lord back? < if its Mest.

Other then that... what if Gildarts is the 7th member? :P
[hr]
Btw cant we figure out who this dude is at the hand of hight? we see Ultear there. We know her hight compared to Gerard, Gerard vs Wendy and then Wendy vs Mest? And then we look at Ultear and the shoulder of that guy whos face we cant see.... do i make sense? ^^"

[dellsdatkid]

I think people are overrating GH, they might not be the most powerful Dark Guild. It could just be the Levi is misinformed about Tartarus and on top of that the Oracion Seis was at least powerful enough to do some damage to GH. If Gh could destroy them there would be no reason to have a non- aggression pact. They could just control them.

With all of that being said I think Fairy Tail can beat GH.

[xela]

I think people are overrating GH, they might not be the most powerful Dark Guild. It could just be the Levi is misinformed about Tartarus and on top of that the Oracion Seis was at least powerful enough to do some damage to GH. If Gh could destroy them there would be no reason to have a non- aggression pact. They could just control them.

With all of that being said I think Fairy Tail can beat GH.


However, this "alliance" is merely a non-aggression pact, meaning that if one of the founding guilds was defeated (Oracion Seis), none of the remaining guilds in the alliance would commit acts of vengeance.

Something I found on wiki.

[swordsaintscoot]

Too bad I have to repeat this post, but can anyone remember or find the link about Urtear's orb in the manga?

She is uses it like that in the Manga too before the 'anime only' one you're referencing. She uses it once, and then the anime did it a second time. Whenever she's seen with her orb she's usually communicating with someone.