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[hybrid62]

chapter is out http://mangastream.com/read/katekyo_hitman_reborn/37132439/1

Excellant chapter

[hdiuy]

Beh, Daemon let me down; why did he have to reveal himself? So much for my hopes of a awesome chessmaster. Hopefully his arrogance won't be his downfall. Daemon seems to be spurting out blood, wonder if it's real or fake?

[Oni_James]

Kaoru starts it all and also wants to end it all. That's really nice for his part.
I suppose this won't be the end for Spade, but it's a good start of his downfall.

[hybrid62]

Even after seeing that scene with the vongolo not knowing the shimon family was out there adelheid still didnt want to believe it.So much anger in them that they are blinded by the truth.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

The chapter was damn great! Adelheid's reaction on the truth was priceless. It's interesting how Enma will act after this. Will he team up with Tsuna and his team or will he try to fight them again?

It was also funny to see Kaoru backstabbing Daemon. Though it's a bit strange, cause he should have felt the killing intent.

[natli]

Kaoru probably killed Julie right now. They do not understand the nature of Deamon/Mukuro. He will just change vessels. Maybe he'll chose Chrome, and then...
1. Mukuro will get him! (wishful thinking) <3
2. Chrome will get him! (no comment)

[kopite]

i doubt this will be the downfall of daemon..
julie is just daemon's vessel..
most likely julie will take the damage..
daemon leaves julie's body and will take another vessel

[Jorge D. Dragon]

It would look like Massacre.:) Though maybe it won't be bad to see Kaoru being ripped, cause he did the same with Yamamoto.

[hybrid62]

The chapter was damn great! Adelheid's reaction on the truth was priceless. It's interesting how Enma will act after this. Will he team up with Tsuna and his team or will he try to fight them again?

It was also funny to see Kaoru backstabbing Daemon. Though it's a bit strange, cause he should have felt the killing intent.

Enma would probably not believe and attack tsuna.....Only reason Adelheid believe it was that she saw spade was using julie all along.

[AandWguy]

What an enjoyable chapter, I enjoyed this chapter as much as the Hibari fight which was badass.
It's the best Jump chapter of the week!

[Benedetti]

I also liked the chapter a lot! Especially because there were no spoilers, so the chapter seems to get more interesting when reading ^.^

I don't think Shimon will go to Tsuna's side so easily, remember there's also the whole CEDEF thing, at least until it gets proven that Deamon was also behind it..

I never hated Kaoru, and I'm happy he tried to fix the things he helped to destroy..

And the whole Adelheid/Julie memories is very cute.. I tendo to support canon pairings ^.^

[just_a_girl]

I liked it because i didn't expect it! :D While Daemon Spade being the culprit behind the death of the original Shimon family was more or less obvious by that moment, Kaoru showing up -- instead of Yamamoto, for example -- was a surprise. I'm actually glad he came and not Yamamoto. While I have nothing against Yamamoto and want him back in action, having him save the day again would be a bit repeatitive.

Also, I count on Daemon Spade to give everyone a run for their money before kicking the bucket. He is quite a decent villain. :D

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Enma would probably not believe and attack tsuna.....Only reason Adelheid believe it was that she saw spade was using julie all along.

I agree that it would be difficult for him to believe, though his allies may prove the fact that Daemon made up all the war between them and Vongola, though he won't forgive Tsuna because of his father killing his family, though there is still a posibility that he was also behind this.:)


Also I hope that Daemon Spade would last longer than that, though I think Kaoru would be backstabbed by Chrome and then Daemon will be back.:) Though I can't see how he can overpower that many enemies by himself even with his illusions.

[eefrit]

Pretty good chapter this week. We finally saw the true intentions of the Vongola which we would happen. Basically another misunderstanding like the beginning of the arc. I have to say though, I think Daemon showed himself to early, he shoud have just used Chrome to infiltrate the Vongola and do the work from inside. It looked like they would win anyway.

Julie/Adelheid...not really feeling it, if feels kind of awkward to me. I like Julie but it just doesn't work for me. Tsuna is getting the gist of what he wants to fight for always nice. Kaoru was apparently taking a walk for that whole week because he came out of no where, which means that Yamamoto will follow suit. Everything will take a different turn now that Daemon revealed himself.

[rajin]

KATEKYO HITMAN REBORN 323 (http://ani-manga.info/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/323/1) IS OUT BY I EAT MANGA SCANS

[Zatono]

I'm still waiting for white feathers to fall from the sky, meaning that Byakuran will appear with his power intact, thus destroying the entire purpose of the TYL Arc, along with a Yamamoto who's embraced the sword.

[shouryuujo]

it was interesting Adelheid has feelings for julie and not one sided heh. But I think kaoru will get beat bad and enma comes in and misunderstanding ensues.

Also, what do you guys think the next arc is going to be about? rescuing captured members? I think it might make most sense since shimon's family will be injured by then so we will still have the "core group" with Tsuna and not be diluted with too many newcomers...

[Lectro Volpi]

I'm still waiting for white feathers to fall from the sky, meaning that Byakuran will appear with his power intact, thus destroying the entire purpose of the TYL Arc, along with a Yamamoto who's embraced the sword.

I thought at the end it was to seal the Mare rings. Yay for our greatest threat yet! he will appear for sure!

I was sceptic about Daemon being that much of an asshole, but he really is and is ready for more!

Pretty much what everyone else said: Daemon's just an illusion possessing Julie and he just need to release control and let shit hit the fan for Kaoru.

Tsuna said he was going to rescue his and Shimon's guardians (they need to get out right?). Maybe Mukuro will be rescued too.

Ha! Gokudera knew Daemon, maybe for the sake of the anime.

[Zatono]

I'm actually a little confused as to why Vindice hasn't arrested Daemon lol. I wonder if we'll see an attempt next chapter of it.

[hhv94]

Looks like Deamon's technique is were his soul takes over a human body and he's lived this way for years. Don't think Vindice can take his soul that easily. Sounds like a pretty good evil villain to me. Either way I will be curious to see what happens next. I feel bad for the Shimon, but this is not unexpected by many I'm sure.

[liductan]

DAMNNNN!! this chapter made my week turn from boring to interesting.i was expecting something upredictable because hibari won but i still think spade revealed himself too early. big ups to hibari for pointing the werido out in the first place. looks like julie is going to die, that's sad we didn't get to know very much about him except that he's a pervert. so i wonder how enma will react to this situation, some how i feel like he will be "immobolized" or like tsuna was after their first fight. i have to say i feel sorry for the shimon for being used like trash to be throwd away. what will spade do next? i wonder if they can call off the fight because they still have 3 keys left to unlock.

[shouryuujo]

DAMNNNN!! this chapter made my week turn from boring to interesting.i was expecting something upredictable because hibari won but i still think spade revealed himself too early. big ups to hibari for pointing the werido out in the first place. looks like julie is going to die, that's sad we didn't get to know very much about him except that he's a pervert. so i wonder how enma will react to this situation, some how i feel like he will be "immobolized" or like tsuna was after their first fight. i have to say i feel sorry for the shimon for being used like trash to be throwd away. what will spade do next? i wonder if they can call off the fight because they still have 3 keys left to unlock.

i doubt julie gonna die... no one almost ever dies in this manga except willing sacrifical deaths...

[narutodemonkill]

I'm pretty sure he is just going to take over chrome's body..
The person who stabbed him basically killed Julie's body?

[sarutobi_sensei]

Ehh, interesting. Finally we know who sent the letter, why, and what he has been doing for this time.

Kaoru listened, but where the hell is Yamamoto? He is needed right now.

So many things are going to happen soon. Can't wait.

[elitefox]

Ehh, interesting. Finally we know who sent the letter, why, and what he has been doing for this time.

Kaoru listened, but where the hell is Yamamoto? He is needed right now.

So many things are going to happen soon. Can't wait.


Do you think kaoru will fight anymore?

Well this will even it, if kaoru cannot fight anymore then he will be put to prison :D, not laughing because of the fightlessness, but it would speed up a little bit better.


but I doubt Spade can be taken out just like that. He kinda is literally a ghost lol, or he is somewhere out there and is like 120 or more years old:tem
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I also liked the chapter a lot! Especially because there were no spoilers, so the chapter seems to get more interesting when reading ^.^

I don't think Shimon will go to Tsuna's side so easily, remember there's also the whole CEDEF thing, at least until it gets proven that Deamon was also behind it..

I never hated Kaoru, and I'm happy he tried to fix the things he helped to destroy..

And the whole Adelheid/Julie memories is very cute.. I tendo to support canon pairings ^.^


Well it might not be even tsuna's father but daemon itself who eradicated it. well it will be on tsuna's father who has to prove if he have memories of killing them.

so kaoru has an assassin like weapon, arm held weapon...

anyone thinks that kaoru will be the next vessel :D
well, he is close to spade and we might see how he performs vessel transfer :o

[liductan]

Do you think kaoru will fight anymore?

Well this will even it, if kaoru cannot fight anymore then he will be put to prison :D, not laughing because of the fightlessness, but it would speed up a little bit better.


but I doubt Spade can be taken out just like that. He kinda is literally a ghost lol, or he is somewhere out there and is like 120 or more years old:tem
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Well it might not be even tsuna's father but daemon itself who eradicated it. well it will be on tsuna's father who has to prove if he have memories of killing them.

so kaoru has an assassin like weapon, arm held weapon...

anyone thinks that kaoru will be the next vessel :D
well, he is close to spade and we might see how he performs vessel transfer :o

no, why would spade need kaoru? that would be pointless because he's not worth it, plus he said he's done with the shimon family. the only person worth taking over to further his plans would be chrome. they never actually said that tsuna's father killed them but under CEDEF that was just enma speculating things because tsuna's father is the boss. i'm thinking that spade was behind this. To make them feel anything but hatred then throw them away with nothing left, simpily to get rid of them being a threat.then again we don't know anything behind their backgrounds yet.

[lamenguy]

i think daemon is high class magician, i wonder he can scold kaoru for killing him, this is hypnotism, they fall for daemon trap. daemon actually pretend to be adelheid. main character don't die. when kaoru kill daemon, he turn out to be adelheid. amano should see lu chen magic. chrome is main character.

[ghostexiled]

I have decided that I like Reborn more when there is talking going on that concerns the main plot.

The battles this arc were not the best of the series... save Hibari's.

What I find interesting is that Daemon claims to be doing all this for the good of the Vongola.

Also nice to see that there was/is something between Aldy & Julie... cause I was wondering why she was getting all jealous about Chrome.

Although, looks like Julie is going to bite the big one thanks to Kaoru... cause you know that Kaoru loves to pretty much murder people.

The only thing that confuses me is the whole "Reborn" idea...

Daemon stated that all the current guardians are identical to the first generations guardians. So how does Mukuro fit into this idea, since Daemon is still around?

[lamenguy]

look like i gonna score in next chapter that one of my idea in bleach has is inside the chapter. the hypnotism part.

[unstoppableonez]

I really loved this chapter.. every pages was epic!
Maybe the one that kaoru stabbed was julie's body and he didn't realized it because of his feelings. Hmmm I think daemon will control Kaoru (using the spade eyes just like he did to chrome) and yamamoto will appear w/ byakuran? lol

I see.. so tsuna don't know who is daemon spade after all but on the anime he already fought him.

Daemon Spade has similar powers to Orochimaru :D

I can't wait what will happen next~

[hdiuy]

I see.. so tsuna don't know who is daemon spade after all but on the anime he already fought him.


Well Tsuna wasn't really himself recently . Besides usually it is Mukuro who is associated with Chrome so maybe seeing someone a bit different might confuse Tsuna. IIRC Tsuna did misunderstood 1 thing or another before

[elitefox]

no, why would spade need kaoru? that would be pointless because he's not worth it, plus he said he's done with the shimon family. the only person worth taking over to further his plans would be chrome. they never actually said that tsuna's father killed them but under CEDEF that was just enma speculating things because tsuna's father is the boss. i'm thinking that spade was behind this. To make them feel anything but hatred then throw them away with nothing left, simpily to get rid of them being a threat.then again we don't know anything behind their backgrounds yet.


you are already dying, so you need a next vessel... it will be either chrome or kaoru, and I bet on kaoru.

on second thought, why not illusionary regeneration. :p

he can do organs so I think this is no more of a problem:o

[mbacarra]

it's an amazing chapter. i think it was a good idea for daemon to reveal himself at this point since he said he believed that adelheid was the catalyst for the simon family. and now that kaoru has stabbed him, he'll probably use either kaouru or chrome as his new vessel. I'm thinking more of chrome since his goal is to reach mukuro. I'm curious though as to how he'd do that. I'm also considering the idea that daemon will manipulate kaoru to continue the fight (although the remaining guardian fights would probably make no sense at this point).

and did anyone notice that yamamoto no longer has the gas mask from the hospital in the pre-flashback scene?

[-Ken-]

I'm just glad that Julie actually exist as a person, not some created persona. That's best part of this chapter for me.

[steelwingcrash1]

"All for the sake of Vongola."

I guess the filler anime in KHR and the manga converged into one point - that D.Spade's true goal is the propagation of the darkness within Vongola. This chapter revelation is very outstanding.

Damn it! This chapter cuts off at a very awesome point! I wish there are two chapters for this week.

[liductan]

and did anyone notice that yamamoto no longer has the gas mask from the hospital in the pre-flashback scene?[/QUOTE]

nope, i saw the gas mask still on yamamoto unless i was mistaken but i don't think i was.

[Onlyen]

i saw the gas mask still on yamamoto unless i was mistaken but i don't think i was.


No, you were , Ryohei had a mask from the Vongola , i guess Yamamoto's ready for action , bet we'll see him in the next chapter !

[Crude]

Lambo's reaction to Daemon Spade was hilarious: "What a weirdo!" :D

[Zatono]

nope, i saw the gas mask still on yamamoto unless i was mistaken but i don't think i was.

For further clarification:

Here's Yamamoto with his mask on: http://www.mangareader.net/284-58441-8/katekyo-hitman-reborn/chapter-313.html

And now...http://mangastream.com/read/katekyo_hitman_reborn/37132439/4

I think it's pretty clear that it's off.

[steelwingcrash1]

I have to agree that we are just forced to think that Yamamoto is still under recuperation because we only see half of his face and his left eye still closed. But if we start to think of the bigger picture, that could possible have been a completely-healed Yamamoto. After all, the oxygen mask attached to him is no longer shown.

[Asarii]

Beh, Daemon let me down; why did he have to reveal himself? So much for my hopes of a awesome chessmaster. Hopefully his arrogance won't be his downfall. Daemon seems to be spurting out blood, wonder if it's real or fake?
Perhaps he felt confident (overconfident even). Adelheid was the one potential to defeat Vongola and lost. I'm sure Daemon felt a rush that his plan will succeed after all. Oh and hi!


Julie/Adelheid...not really feeling it, if feels kind of awkward to me. I like Julie but it just doesn't work for me.
Their relationship makes sense. Adelheid acted as the leader of the Simon who was always involved in family matters. Enma can't tie the family together, and we saw in the flashback two weeks ago that she was the force that united the members. This is a HUGE burden for Adelheid because the Simon were always targeted by other families.

Now we have Julie who said it himself that he's carefree. He doesn't take his family matters too seriously as long as he can be there for them. He's also a jokester. Having him as a crush is a wonderful distraction for Adelheid because his light-heartedness makes her feel at ease.


I have decided that I like Reborn more when there is talking going on that concerns the main plot.

The battles this arc were not the best of the series... save Hibari's.
I actually didn't find Hibari's battle that interesting. :p I was busy engrossing myself in other things during that time. I agree with you that I like KHR better when its plot is progressing. At least it's not the other way around.

[Zatono]

Again, I'd think that Vindice should do their best to arrest Daemon. He's basically an embodiment of broken laws of the mafia world, right? If they fail I'd be pretty upset, since they were able to hold an entity such as Ghost.

Also, I get the feeling there's a stronger driving force right now. I hope Daemon doesn't actually end up being the big boss, because:

1. We've still yet to see Spanner and Irie.

2. The fights have gone way too fast, and now even Kaoru knows what's going on and he hasn't been arrested and if he makes it out of this situation alive he can take tell Enma, so besides whatever Tsuna's dad did to Enma's family, he has no real reason to attempt to murder the Vongola anymore.

3. Seeing Byakuran out of nowhere really needs to be explained lol, and hopefully we'll see some of the Giglio Nero as well.

[wills0052]

We have to remember that if flan can fool the guards, then obviously daemon will be able to. He will most likely be captured after he is incapacitated by mukuro

[steelwingcrash1]

D. Spade's existence seems more like the will of the Mist Ring. I really don't want to consider D. Spade being captured and detained by Vindice.


Also, I get the feeling there's a stronger driving force right now. I hope Daemon doesn't actually end up being the big boss

On the other hand, I believe this arc is an average length one (like the Varia arc) and that D. Spade is already the big boss behind this felony.

Tsuna will fight Enma and all Shimon Guardians (including Enma, I think) will be trapped in Vindice. Tsuna and family will then save Ryohei and all Shimon Family members from Vindice.
Vongola and Shimon will take up arms together to defeat D. Spade.

After all, D. Spade IS the total manipulator of the events that occurred in both mafia families.

:wtf

[ca12nag3]

Its only logical Tsuna will rescue everyone. Hes gonna recreate the world of the 1st Vongola even if he doesnt see himself as the boss. That includes recreating the friendship with the Shimon family.

As for D Spade i realy cant tell what he is, if hes the ring will as some people say. But then how did he get to Julie without being even near the ring? He didnt take over Chrome first and then Julie.

It might be Julie came across something that released D Spade and it took controle of him. And perhaps its D spade that killed Enmas relatives and then thrue Julie made it seem that Tsunas father had to do with it.

[steelwingcrash1]

And perhaps its D spade that killed Enmas relatives and then thrue Julie made it seem that Tsunas father had to do with it.

That happened years ago. If that's the case, then the Shimon Family had had contact with D. Spade in those early years? That, too, may be logical but what about the Ninth's reaction in the bath-of-blood-whatever-it-is? It seems the ninth himself was somewhat connected to it, and not D. Spade.

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As for D. Spade's embodiment, maybe he has long before continued to take vessels so that he can survive until the present time. That is why when he took over Julie, he grasped that chance to oversee Tsuna and the new Vongola family.

[just_a_girl]

I also believe Daemon Spade is the final boss of this arc -- he's now a traitor, a manipulator, a body-stealer and apparently a murderer, so he's qualified for the job alright.:D

He may or may not get wiped out completely, although I have a feeling we're going to see more of him in the future; but so far it seems that he's the true mastermind behind everything. I remember that it looked the more or less the same with Shouichi during the Future Arc, and then he turned out to be an innocent little lamb, but I doubt that Amano will use this trick again so soon.:D

[hdiuy]

I'm hoping it wouldn't be that simple whereby the Vongola and Simon rescue their allies in the vindince.

Perhaps he felt confident (overconfident even). Adelheid was the one potential to defeat Vongola and lost. I'm sure Daemon felt a rush that his plan will succeed after all. Oh and hi!


I was talking with my friend yesterday and he said something similar. I guess there is no point in continuing since Adel lost.

Hi,glad to see that you recovered from julie-ness =)

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

and did anyone notice that yamamoto no longer has the gas mask from the hospital in the pre-flashback scene?

I noticed that to.

This definitely has some to do with byakuran showing up in the Hospital and i'm really eager to find out what exactly happened.

[Asarii]

Since Kaoru arrived on the scene, Yamamoto and Byakuran might make an appearance as well.


I was talking with my friend yesterday and he said something similar. I guess there is no point in continuing since Adel lost.

Hi,glad to see that you recovered from julie-ness =)
He had high expectations for her so he probably felt as if there would be nothing else to lose if he revealed himself.

I sure have! I let myself calm down a bit so I should be somewhat coherent.

[ownage404]

3. Seeing Byakuran out of nowhere really needs to be explained lol, and hopefully we'll see some of the Giglio Nero as well.

Well i sort of have an explanation for why byakuran showed up

If im right I remember spanner saying that he saw what happened in the future when he sent Tsuna the X Burner Lenses
I'm guessing the same thing happened to Byakuran
He saw what happened and maybe changed his ways? Or maybe just thought there's no point in being bad because he saw himself get beaten?

[-Ken-]

Well i sort of have an explanation for why byakuran showed up

If im right I remember spanner saying that he saw what happened in the future when he sent Tsuna the X Burner Lenses
I'm guessing the same thing happened to Byakuran
He saw what happened and maybe changed his ways? Or maybe just thought there's no point in being bad because he saw himself get beaten?

I don't know, Byakuran eyes doesn't seem like he's conscious at all to me. Look like he's in sleeping state or something.

[steelwingcrash1]

I don't know, Byakuran eyes doesn't seem like he's conscious at all to me. Look like he's in sleeping state or something.

Byakuran will definitely have a role in the healing process of Yamamoto. His knowledge of parallel worlds (already activated in THIS era) will probably be the reason why the seemingly incurable Yamamoto will soon helped.

[BianchiChrome]

Hello!:amuse

I hope that whatever Byakuran has done or used to help Yamamoto I hope that he brings whatever it is to the island. I am afraid Julie may be in the same condition or worse than Yamamoto. Now that I know the real Julie I like him and want him to be alright too. I just want Yamamoto and Byakuran to come back like the 325 or at least the next one.

[steelwingcrash1]

Hello!:amuse

I hope that whatever Byakuran has done or used to help Yamamoto I hope that he brings whatever it is to the island. I am afraid Julie may be in the same condition or worse than Yamamoto. Now that I know the real Julie I like him and want him to be alright too. I just want Yamamoto and Byakuran to come back like the 325 or at least the next one.

Come to think of it, this manga tells us that Julie is a really kind and devoted Shimon family member. I agree he should come back all right.

What Kaoru stabbed was not Daemon Spade at all, but Julie's body/vessel. Kaoru will be the reason why Julie will be totally incapacitated, :-_-

[luffyg2]

The thing is that we need to see the other memories so for that to happen we need the shimon and vongola to keep on fighting so i wonder whats going to happen with that