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ghostexiled
April 18, 2011, 05:06 PM
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takarita
April 25, 2011, 09:18 AM
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RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:22 AM
and the second premonition is on! thanks takarita! i need to learn japanese though haha

I'm guessing mavis gave Cana a piece of his mind finally she's back to being herself ^^ no backstroy though seems some mysteries are revealed yay!

also Charle and Happy are so cute in human form =D

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 09:24 AM
Looks as if Cana has a break-down after realizing what an ass she has been to her friends and guild... and ends with her determined to help out her friends from the onslaught of GH.

Also noted... looks as if we have finally seen all the "Foreseen" images that Charlie had. Natsu crying... check. Hand on the ground... check? Cana crying... check.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:27 AM
Looks as if Cana has a break-down after realizing what an ass she has been to her friends and guild... and ends with her determine to help out her friends from the onslaught of GH.

True she's been a b**** but she still can redeem herself, oh and she grabbed something from the grave what do you reckon it is, i hope she hasnt magically become S-class... :-_-

edit; i think the natsu crying hasnt happened yet when he cried cuz he lost against gildarts was too different from the premonition one while cana crying and lucy's hand where almost identical

sarutobi_sensei
April 25, 2011, 09:28 AM
In my book, she's not cleared yet. She needs to get a spanking in the ass.

I wonder if Mavis says something to her.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:31 AM
In my book, she's not cleared yet. She needs to get a spanking in the ass.

I wonder if Mavis says something to her.

GH will definitely make sure of that believe me whatever she grabbed cant help her THAT much and i hope mavis did talk to her that would be tres creepy and cool xD

sarutobi_sensei
April 25, 2011, 09:44 AM
Why would it be very creepy? It was bound to happen xD

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:52 AM
Why would it be very creepy? It was bound to happen xD

well yes but when has a talking dead person been NOT creepy or a talking gravestone xD?

also who thinks Lucy and cana are going to have a slap, cry and hug moment? summarised here;
lucy: *realises what cana did* YOU duuegodoae *slap*
Cana: o.O sorry
Lucy and Cana: *hug and cry*
Bad guy: -.-" shots them *lucy takes shot heroically*
Natsu: *goes into god mode* no touchy my woman!
lolz

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:09 AM
at least we know bluenote is probably searching for whatever cana grabbed.

possible scenerios:
-lucy brings bluenote to the grave and he goes crazy when he realises whatever he wants isn't there.
-cana running into team levy or gray but I don't think she'll meet with team natsu


Personally, I don't really like the development of cana's part. It's like hiro dragged it for a few pages and then, suddenly, rushed through everything. Cana stared at a fricking tomb for so many pages and then within 2 pages, she had an epiphany that she needs to help her nakama.


I hope this chapter focuses more on team natsu than on erza,gray or cana. Gray's part is getting boring because it was dragged for too long and I don't really care whether Ultear is being truthful or not. (Well, I think she is and at some point, she will fight gray when he disagree with her pov or that he refuse to help her).

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:15 AM
at least we know bluenote is probably searching for whatever cana grabbed.

possible scenerios:
-lucy brings bluenote to the grave and he goes crazy when he realises whatever he wants isn't there.
-cana running into team levy or gray but I don't think she'll meet with team natsu
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well thats another mystery we need to solve what did Cana our unusually sober friend take from the tomb and yep bluenote wants that most probably

why lucy takes bluenote?
Its most probable she meets team nastu eventually since Lucy has to yet play the imp part she said in the arcs beginning which i think revolves around Cana

Cana's epiphany i still think mavis talked some sense into that alcoholically maimed brain of hers...still i want to give her a chance she deserves it

team natsu is certainly more interesting since it vs bluenote wonder how they'll survive :/

Baka_Sousui
April 25, 2011, 10:16 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but to be honest Cana still remains one of my fav fairy tail girls. Sure you a lot of you hate Cana now, how many of you hated Laxus when he was attempting to destroy the guild and make it a new?

Back to the spoilers. It seems obvious she did retrieve something. Also I'm quite sure that something was communicated to her by Mavis in some form or another. It's not like this is the first story where the dead has communicated with the living, also this is a story about magic, so it can in various forms go beyond that of logic. I wonder if we can finally see Cana's magic at full strength. The kind where she is pushed deep into the corner and suddenly releases something unimaginable like Natsu usually does.
Situation power ups it's the driving force of mangas and animes.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:21 AM
Cana did some stupid things but till now i think she has a reason for it and she's still in my top fav ft girls ^^ i dont hate her and i'm sure most of us dont rather they hate what she did but she's seen sense finally (i hope, spoilers seem to indicate so) and we might want to wait to read the chapter until we say its rushed saya1987, just saying, cuz you're probably right, but i want to read chapter first

hope we do get some Zeref info though!

Razh
April 25, 2011, 10:34 AM
So, what, Cana is now like - OMG I TOTALLY MISREAD THE SITUATION BWAAAAAA :'(

Really hope those words in text clouds are convincing.

ca12nag3
April 25, 2011, 10:41 AM
Difference between night and day as i read the comments on Cana, where i first got massive critisism for telling everyone to wait and see how things develop with Cana.

Im glad we get more about it now and well see what the grave can realy do... seems to be something realy powerfull? Can it tell the heart of a person?

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:44 AM
why lucy takes bluenote?
Its most probable she meets team nastu eventually since Lucy has to yet play the imp part she said in the arcs beginning which i think revolves around Cana:/

Because Lucy is the only one who knew the location of the grave and she'll probably do that to save everyone. Of course, this wouldn't happen if natsu beats bluenote or if someone helps them. Then again, lucy could be sly enough to bring bluenote everywhere but the location of the grave.

Anyway, if Cana runs into bluenote, this pretty much signifies the end of the arc because bluenote will just leave after he obtains the item that cana grabbed. Secondly, we'll just see cana defeated if she runs into bluenote. There's no chance for her to shine at all! I would rather she meets up with levy and help them out since lisanna is relying too much on natsu. (GRRR, this really annoyed me btw.)

:-_- Initially, I like Cana's development but right now, her change is too abrupt. Okay, may it's not if you compare her to ultear.

Shadow Limiter
April 25, 2011, 10:46 AM
I have a feeling that Mavis give some sort of power or new ability to Cana because as much as i know Cana didn't have any "tattoo" on her right arm (the one we see in the last page). She did use her right arm to try to touch the light in Mavis grave (maybe thats why her shirt is torn-off as well), so maybe Mavis sense something in her and grants her power (or an ability to use high class spells similar to the "Fariy Law" or "Urano Metria").

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:46 AM
one thing for sure it isn't something small and we keep forgetting something Cana is human and humans make mistakes maybe Mashima wants to show his readers that mistakes can be righted?

the grave may react to the feelings of the person or yeah maybe the heart/soul and give them power? still i hope Cana doesnt get some massive power up i would rather she develops slowly like Lucy has been doing

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:48 AM
I doubt cana will be gettin a powerup since she isn't one of the main characters. HAHA, for you know, she may really run into bluenote and give the powerup to natsu!

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:53 AM
Because Lucy is the only one who knew the location of the grave and she'll probably do that to save everyone. Of course, this wouldn't happen if natsu beats bluenote or if someone helps them. Then again, lucy could be sly enough to bring bluenote everywhere but the location of the grave.

Anyway, if Cana runs into bluenote, this pretty much signifies the end of the arc because bluenote will just leave after he obtains the item that cana grabbed. Secondly, we'll just see cana defeated if she runs into bluenote. There's no chance for her to shine at all! I would rather she meets up with levy and help them out since lisanna is relying too much on natsu. (GRRR, this really annoyed me btw.)

:-_- Initially, I like Cana's development but right now, her change is too abrupt. Okay, may it's not if you compare her to ultear.

you have big point and i have been pwned xD i bow down to you

Lucy can be intelligent at times and its plausible for her to act hero you know the good old 'i dont want to be worthless anymore' *sigh* she's not ofc she's just a beginner but she thinks she's weak and her lowish self esteem of her powers creates problems as well as her being out of magic now

@shadow limiter
the tattoo i didnt notice it *facepalm* so Cana might have got a powerup :S curiosity is killing me!!!

@saya1987
Natsu getting a powerup again would be annoying, i think she's keeping it haha does that tattoo mean she's s-class now? :s

vortex
April 25, 2011, 10:53 AM
From what i can read without squinting:

boy-girl flower pic

Kindness is the "magical power" of revealing one's trueself!!

2nd pic

aaaaaah!

Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!

I didn't mean to betray my friends!

no...

I don't mind not becoming an S class mage...

I don't mind not being able to (let my feelings) reach out to Dad...

Above all... I want to protect my friends (nakama)!


Last pic

The return of the "heart" that was stolen!
The passion that rushes out towards friends, the strength that illuminates FT!

Because it's 12 years worth of payback in kindness!
Everyone at fairytail!

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 10:54 AM
Cana's situation has never been about malice intent towards her guild. It is simply a matter of the human condition.

I hate to pull the age card here... but unless you have experienced a situation where you wish to accomplish 2 things, in Cana's case be S-ranked and be loyal to her friends, that end up conflicting with each other... you can't understand the workings behind her actions to its intended purpose.

No 2 people are the same... sure this is a manga and it is riddled with templates of your typical shounen characters... but the fact that Cana is able to grasp her wrong doings in a matter of pause, is in no way unrealistic.

Some people can get they screwed up right away... where others continue to be blinded by their ambitions. Unaware of the damage they cause.

I for one never saw Cana's actions as bad... it was simply a matter of a person who lost sight of the things that mattered the most. :)

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:57 AM
Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!



everything seems to coincide but that makes no sense really bus? *tilts head confused* so cana is talking to someone ie mavis no doubt

@ghostexiled totally agree with you although her actions were somewhat wrong what you said is very true and maybe this in a way makes me love Cana's character more

kkck
April 25, 2011, 11:00 AM
Did cana always have that huge tatoo on her arm? Wonder if whatever she found at the grave will help against bluenote....

vortex
April 25, 2011, 11:01 AM
everything seems to coincide but that makes no sense really bus? *tilts head confused* so cana is talking to someone ie mavis no doubt

@ghostexiled totally agree with you although her actions were somewhat wrong what you said is very true and maybe this in a way makes me love Cana's character more

the 'bus' thing is a word that's cut off i think... from what i can make out.. so it doesn't really mean 'bus' .. it can be the 2nd syllable of "members" or some other similar word.. it got cut off so i really dunno... .

I'm not sure if she's talking to someone though... she might be talking to the grave or just thinking out loud...

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 11:07 AM
oh sorry okay that makes sense now xD
Cana basically lost it? :/ something must have happened though to make her see the 'light' pardon the pun

edit; now that i look at the arm tattoo it looks like a new ft guild mark tres cool!

edit 2: could it be the grave showed her what will happen because of her actions? like her friend dieing/getting hurt, zeref reawakening etc?

ca12nag3
April 25, 2011, 12:17 PM
Something that cannot be confirmed now but most likely is the cause is this.

She has a strong feeling to her dad, most likely he didnt give her the attention she needed when growing up, her dad must be someone focused on power. Perhaps being S-Class makes her worthy in her dads eyes.
So her good intention of making daddy proud of her has lingerd on from childhood to adulthood, and thus shes making wrong decisions. Also note the absense of a mother mentioned.

Something similar is going on with Lucy, her dad only cares bout power and wealth however Lucy broke free from this past and still remembering her mom follows the footsteps her mom would wish shed make. (im sure of that).
Also in the context of the *bad father* Lucy more or less understands Cana but is in the same time already beyond the barrier Cana is now breaking.

Sidenote: its also likely that because Cana knows about how her dad hired Phantom etc etc she felt easier to talk about her reasons for becomming S-Class and Lucy decided to help her. All makes sense.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 12:34 PM
also explains why Cana asked about Lucy's dad in the beginning probably hearing that they dont really talk much caused her to open up to Lucy, maybe Lucy will help her and her father to make peace thus fulfilling her imp role?

it makes so much sense its scary xD we'll really laugh im sure at the end of the arc with all the stuff we thought would happen ='D

MyuuMyuu
April 25, 2011, 01:38 PM
Did cana always have that huge tatoo on her arm? Wonder if whatever she found at the grave will help against bluenote....

No i think she got it when she touched the grave or the light there was shown on the page.. she reached out to it. Might be some powerup magic she got from mavis?

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 04:03 PM
You guys are starting to get into general predictions and discussion... so all posts that have nothing really to do with the released spoilers, have been moved to the current discussion/prediction thread.

Please try to only post here (for the time being) if you have something to say about the available spoilers.

Thanks!

Kuzumikun
April 25, 2011, 10:13 PM
IT seems that Cana did get a buff from the Grave to help out. Also is Cana running super fast or is it just me? She probably figured out what she did to Lucy or something. I really hope she helps out with BlueNote or something

miramira
April 26, 2011, 01:38 AM
Thanks for the pictures and the translation :)

I agree the panel where she's crying is almost idetical to Charle's vision.

On the last picture Cana looks like she's angry or determined to fight, not just hurrying to see her guildmates to ask forgiveness. Looks like she found out or was shown something dangerous is about to happen. Just my opinion on the last picture.
[hr]
^Or she needs to confront someone right away.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 04:25 AM
IT seems that Cana did get a buff from the Grave to help out. Also is Cana running super fast or is it just me? She probably figured out what she did to Lucy or something. I really hope she helps out with BlueNote or something

I dont think Cana is running super fast she's just running like full speed probably to get to her friends and she must have seen something bad to make her first ball her eyes out and then run angrily to prevent it ^^

AkaiSuiseiNoZero
April 26, 2011, 05:29 AM
From what i can read without squinting:

2nd pic

aaaaaah!

Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!

I didn't mean to betray my friends!

no...

I don't mind not becoming an S class mage...

I don't mind not being able to (let my feelings) reach out to Dad...

Above all... I want to protect my friends (nakama)!



First timer here at MH (or at least registered). I only came to see if there was an actual raw for the chapter out this week and couldn't help but noticed you misread the second page. It's not "BUS" but ハズ, or はず. What she basically said in that specific caption was she didn't expect it to be like this ハズじゃなかった!!!

Sorry to sound like an ass, but I won't translate nor will I correct anything else as this doesn't look like a typical spoiler thread but more like a spoiler discussion thread which discourages me from typing anything since a great deal of what was written here seems to be speculation of those who simply "looked at the pictures." Admittedly, this error was just too big and simple for me to simply ignore and I'll just leave it at that.

Good day.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 05:47 AM
First timer here at MH (or at least registered). I only came to see if there was an actual raw for the chapter out this week and couldn't help but noticed you misread the second page. It's not "BUS" but ハズ, or はず. What she basically said in that specific caption was she didn't expect it to be like this ハズじゃなかった!!!

Sorry to sound like an ass, but I won't translate nor will I correct anything else as this doesn't look like a typical spoiler thread but more like a spoiler discussion thread which discourages me from typing anything since a great deal of what was written here seems to be speculation of those who simply "looked at the pictures." Admittedly, this error was just too big and simple for me to simply ignore and I'll just leave it at that.

Good day.

Its because FT doesnt have a seperate spoiler discussion thread that discussions go in this same thread along with the spoilers. If you look at the big 3 they do have a seperate thread.

This is still a spoiler thread tho.

Sollum
April 26, 2011, 06:20 AM
Chapter is out! http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/1


Edit:

And the only thing i have to say.... i never said it about manga, but... this chapter was g**... I wonder, if i would shoot half of Bill Gates employees, would he reward me with a million bucks or two?

And hey, being an ass is totally worth it! Mangas DO teach something.

But oh well, at least we know that there was some neat spell on the grave! Anyone knows what the word "glitter" means?

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:21 AM
Yes i was dieing here for a minute finally we get to know what light thingy is! Thanks sollum!!!

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 06:30 AM
MHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who knew?
What a twist!! -_
We knew her dad was someone in ther - But Gil!!!!???
Now that's a comer! >.<

Nice chapter! :)
I loved it - Haters keep hating!

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:36 AM
That was amazingly done Gildartz is Cana's Dad :OOO shock! that is unexpected poor Cana she must have felt really bad comparing herself to him =[ I knew she had a good reason to be so lets say stupid but she finally came back! Go Cana GOO! g

Fairy glitter sound flashy i wonder what it could be, glitter usually is shiny and small and found everywhere when you throw it hmmm maybe a senbonzakura kind of attack?

any idea when next chappy is its since its golden week?

Edit: Little Cana is as squishible as little Lucy xD too kawaii!!

tobeulp
April 26, 2011, 06:36 AM
Wow that is a shocker Gildarts is leaving his seeds all around the world that is why he didn't know he had a daughter ^^... At least in this chapter Cana redeem all his foolish things she had done but I think it is worth it love to see her not drunk Cana chibi is cute ^^...
Well the only let down for me is I think the fairy glitter is a bad premonition for Grimoire Heart..

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 06:39 AM
woah i love this chapter!

first of all we know about bluenote's goal. fairy law might be even more awesome than we thought if it means more to bluenote than zeref.

moreover this is in my opinion another hint for laxus great return. if it's mavis grave that gives this magic to guild members laxus also received it from the grave, which means mavis entrusts him the future of the guild. also bluenote won't get that spell even if he finds the grave, there's no way mavis will give it to him.

hiro mashima did a great job making us all curious i guess. so we all want to know what fairy glitter is about. i hope it will be used in a good way, not just cana running over, one hitting blue note for the win. that would be lame indeed.
but this revelations brought in even more questions...

first.. cana being gildarts daughter? that somehow.. makes sense now, but i don't like it.. because it's just sad if you see that gildarts is a bit like a father figure for natsu, but not for cana at all..
and then there is the question. What is the third magic? We don't even know about the second, but there has to be a deeper meaning behind it. fairy law seems to be suited for the master of fairy tails, or those who are destined to be the master. fairy glitter sounds a bit like a girly spell, so it's the one cana has to get. But there's one left. So i think that one is castable by gildarts. something that just resembles pure power and destruction.
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing). cana defeating bluenote would be a bit cheap. but together with natsu, lucy and wendy it's doable i guess.
at least we know cana isn't up against rustyrose because he doesn't need some kind of uber spell to be defeated.

the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

Shadow Limiter
April 26, 2011, 06:43 AM
So, i was right about Cana getting a new powerful magic and it being similar to "Fairy Law" and "Urano Metria".

From what Bluenote is talking, i think "Fairy Glitter" might be a bit similar to "Fairy Law". But what way would it be similar & different i can't say.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:50 AM
woah i love this chapter!

first of all we know about bluenote's goal. fairy law might be even more awesome than we thought if it means more to bluenote than zeref.

moreover this is in my opinion another hint for laxus great return. if it's mavis grave that gives this magic to guild members laxus also received it from the grave, which means mavis entrusts him the future of the guild. also bluenote won't get that spell even if he finds the grave, there's no way mavis will give it to him.

hiro mashima did a great job making us all curious i guess. so we all want to know what fairy glitter is about. i hope it will be used in a good way, not just cana running over, one hitting blue note for the win. that would be lame indeed.
but this revelations brought in even more questions...

first.. cana being gildarts daughter? that somehow.. makes sense now, but i don't like it.. because it's just sad if you see that gildarts is a bit like a father figure for natsu, but not for cana at all..
and then there is the question. What is the third magic? We don't even know about the second, but there has to be a deeper meaning behind it. fairy law seems to be suited for the master of fairy tails, or those who are destined to be the master. fairy glitter sounds a bit like a girly spell, so it's the one cana has to get. But there's one left. So i think that one is castable by gildarts. something that just resembles pure power and destruction.
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing). cana defeating bluenote would be a bit cheap. but together with natsu, lucy and wendy it's doable i guess.
at least we know cana isn't up against rustyrose because he doesn't need some kind of uber spell to be defeated.

the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

You mean bluenote wants Fairy glitter thus it must be important maybe its not destructive or supportive but something that can make a change?
girly spell? well it sounds so yes but you should be very afraid of such spells believe me xD

It's sad yes that Gil didnt notice but maybe he did and didnt know how to act, Cana on the other hand resembles him not so he might not have taken notice unless she resembles the mother whom he i think i assume he loved since they had a kid ay? so maybe it just hurt him too much or thought himself unfit to be a dad

the exam takes place in different places so Mira and Erza might have not gotten a new power because
1- they did not need it being already powerful and there was no crises
2-they werent on ft island

Also cana seems to have become really friends with Lucy if all it took was her sos card message to show her that she was hurting her friends
now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 06:56 AM
in the last page it says something about the radiance that shines on fairy tail. what if fairy glitter is the exact opposite of fairy law?

fairy law wipes out all the ones your heart sees as foes.

fairy glitter may heal everyone your hear sees as ally. that would mean that bluenote is not only against cana, lucy and wendy. it would also mean makarov being back.

one other idea is that fairy glitter seeks out for the ones that mean the most to you, summoning those, which could bring gildarts, bixlow, freed and even laxus to the island..

i think we can assume bluenote will not win, maybe he will retreat. rustyrose and azuma will also lose. but there still isn't enough power there to defeat hades..
[hr]



Also cana seems to have become really friends with Lucy if all it took was her sos card message to show her that she was hurting her friends
now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

imho natsu crying has to do something with igneel. i don't think that someone of FT will die and everything involving igneel just influences natsu emotions the most. we saw that attacking his friends only makes him feel extreme anger.

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 06:57 AM
This chapter is terrific but extremely shocking for me! I was speechless for quite a while.
GILDARTS IS HER DAD. OMG. GILDARTS IS HER DAD. GILDARTS IS HER DAD.

I think it's cool that Gildarts isn't the loner anymore. At least we know that he has relationships before.

I think fairy glitter is a spell that could activate once, just like the spell lucy used in her fight with angel.

Btw, the next chapter will be released next next's saturday.

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 06:59 AM
Chances of Master dying is very high actually...
Maybe Bluenote will start attacking him to reveal the location of the grave!
Cana comes...
Plots with Natsu - Lucy and Wendy to bring Bluenote down -
They even manage to get a hit on him with Cana's new power...
But its not enough...
Maybe then Gil comes and saves them from the 'wrath of the mighty Bluenote'
Cana goes emotional -
The whole dad meets daughter scene...

Gil bust Bluenote!

At the end - Wendy while healing Master notes that he passed away -
Natsu cries - Cana cries -

sarutobi_sensei
April 26, 2011, 07:00 AM
Wow, I never thought of it. Cana being Gildartz's daughter xD Damn this surprised me to the max...

I mean, who was expecting this? IF you say you were you're lying xD

Anyway, Fairy Glitter, could it be more powerful than Fairy Law? Does Hades know of this?

But this is even better, FT has 3 Ultimate magics. And here we thought that it was Fairy Law all the way. Though it basically does the same thing.

Heh, Mavis did talk to her. I wonder if he'll appear out of nowhere.

So Cana is going to fight against Bluenote? I sure hope she doesn't beat him and only manages to get herself injured, that way Gildartz will beat him when he gets there.

I'm predicting it now, when Gildartz returns, he'll say something like, sorry for not saying anything to you, I didn't know how to do it. I thought you'd hate me if I told you I'm your dad.

Can't wait for the next chapter.

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 07:03 AM
Mavis transferred his magic to cana...which means this magic can be transferred obviously...what if mavis aint good either and intends for cana to deliver to bluenote/hades?

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 07:04 AM
Oh oh oh....you guys should look closer at the background of cana's flashbacks. There are some cute scenes:
- gray and natsu running
- laxus patting natsu's head

They're so cute!

Shadow Limiter
April 26, 2011, 07:08 AM
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing).

If that would have been the case then Bluenote wouldn't have wanted that sort of power. Thats because he is sort of a lone fighter type and doesn't take help from anyone.

Also i think he knows what the "Fairy Glitter" can do, and hence he wants to find it.


the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

Most likely there is certain conditions neceesary to be able to use those 3 spells.

The condition for "Fairy Law" is most likely as you pointed out that only people who have the ability to be the master of the guild can learn it.

Where as the conditions for getting "Fairy Glitter" maybe related to heart of the ones who seek to get it (not sure if i am right though).

People like Erza and Mira never needed that power since they where very powerful to begin with.

Now i have a feeling that as Cana got hold of a power like this, she would most likely be an important character for the story in future (same like how Laxus may turn out in the future).


now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

Maybe he is crying because he finds out about his past or about Igneel (most likely from 'Zeref' since he seems to be the key to the dragons mystery as well).

bittman
April 26, 2011, 07:10 AM
Haha, we made some mad predictions but I don't think anyone predicted something this simple for Kana's father and reason for becoming S-class.

Fairy Law
Fairy Glitter
Fairy _______ ?
I'm now all curious to see how Glitter and the unknown work with the Fairy Tail guild. In particular what drew Blue Note to Fairy Glitter.

Good chapter, redeemed Kana for many I believe. We were meant to think Kana was being selfish, which makes her realisation a lot more powerful for us also I think. I think Kana is going to Blue Note, but will probably see Erza vs Asuma before then. Rustyrose, on the other hand, harder to predict.

Can we confirm Gildhartz returning for Kana's "arc" now? I think we can. Gildhartz vs Hades: I've been looking forward to it since 30 chapters ago.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 07:12 AM
This chapter is terrific but extremely shocking for me! I was speechless for quite a while.
GILDARTS IS HER DAD. OMG. GILDARTS IS HER DAD. GILDARTS IS HER DAD.

I think it's cool that Gildarts isn't the loner anymore. At least we know that he has relationships before.

I think fairy glitter is a spell that could activate once, just like the spell lucy used in her fight with angel.

Btw, the next chapter will be released next next's saturday.

i'm still trying to digest that fact haha tnx 2 weeks with curiosity but oh well they do deserve a big huge break with all thats been going on

@Shiro Tsuki
thats a scene which i wouldnt mind but as stupid as this sound i will be crying too if master dies D= he's too awesome!

@swordsaintscootnow that would be a twist which Ft wouldnt i think be able to defend against they would lose but maybe this would be a rennavantion like they would come back stronger and take GH down

@saya1987
laxus petting natsu well i am currently rereading it to be more observant xD cute!!!

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 07:14 AM
If that would have been the case then Bluenote wouldn't have wanted that sort of power. Thats because he is sort of a lone fighter type and doesn't take help from anyone.

Also i think he knows what the "Fairy Glitter" can do, and hence he wants to find it.



maybe i misunderstood the text, but doesn't bluenote want fairy law? i don't know, he talks about a radiance that rejects the presence of any foes. this sounds a lot like fairy law to me.

well maybe it's even more powerful than fairy law, maybe it has another effect. "rejects the presence" might also mean it just teleports the enemy away.

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 07:18 AM
As for those who felt that gildarts is more of a paternal figure to natsu or any of the boys, it's just natural that guys connect better with boys than girls.

It's kinda sad that gildarts miss out on being a father to cana's childhood. Can you imagine him playing with dolls or doing girly stuff? Then again, cana could've been raised as a tomboy, wear boyish stuff and not run around in a bikini.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 07:19 AM
To me it seems like Fairy glitter is a defencive spell and Fairy law the offencive one.

Fairy law takes out whoever you see as the enemy.
Fairy glitter might ward off any attack by an enemy.

Tbh it seems like Mavis/Mevis chose Cana as new Guildleader? Its just that using a Fairy spell is a ultimate spell so it seems and only guildleaders should be having that. I cant recall any other S class having such a spell.

Btw anyone who still wants Cana dead has to face the wrath of Gildarts :D muahaha

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 07:21 AM
maybe i misunderstood the text, but doesn't bluenote want fairy law? i don't know, he talks about a radiance that rejects the presence of any foes. this sounds a lot like fairy law to me.

well maybe it's even more powerful than fairy law, maybe it has another effect. "rejects the presence" might also mean it just teleports the enemy away.

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/6
he wants the magic sealed in the grave which is fairy glitter i think fairy law has something to do with it though he mentions it before


Maybe he is crying because he finds out about his past or about Igneel (most likely from 'Zeref' since he seems to be the key to the dragons mystery as well).

yes thats actually pretty cool and id like that to happen more info on the dragons and zeref maybe on layla too since she seems involved

Ero-Sanji
April 26, 2011, 07:30 AM
Can we confirm Gildhartz returning for Kana's "arc" now? I think we can. Gildhartz vs Hades: I've been looking forward to it since 30 chapters ago.

No, no, can't see that happening:D
It will lead to the same results as with Makarov vs Hades, that battle was all about experience and Hades clearly had(/s) the most.

Personally, I think Bluenote will face of against Cana with Fairy Glitter and Cana will either win and thus proving to herself that she's worthy being Gildartz daughter or she'll lose but still manage to do some damage and interrupting the battle will be Gildartz.

Anyway, as some mentioned this was a major twist.
Though I early on thought that she did it to prove it for someone I never would've guessed on Gildartz. It's funny how can't even remember those two at the same panels.

About those three magics of the guild what does Bluenote mean by "it's written within Fairy Law", is that a mistranslation or what? Also, Bluenote said that it's radiance rejects the presence of any foes, that's very similar to Fairy Law but instead of judging and thus hurting it seems to have some protective and/or potentially a healing effect. If I'm not mistaken fairy glitter or more formally known fairy dust often has an enchanting effect on the person it lands. I'm guessing for a universal healing or power-up move coming next.

EDIT:



Tbh it seems like Mavis/Mevis chose Cana as new Guildleader? Its just that using a Fairy spell is a ultimate spell so it seems and only guildleaders should be having that. I cant recall any other S class having such a spell.


Laxus learned it on his own.

kidopitz27
April 26, 2011, 07:31 AM
i hope they are not hyping bluenote and then in the next chapter Kana will just pawn him maybe fairy glitter is like a counter spell that blocks or even bounce back enemy's skill like a reversal :)

3c
April 26, 2011, 07:49 AM
I find it kind of lame that it turned out this way. This is pretty much the definition of a cheap power up. Hopefully she won't become too uber out of the blue, even though that's highly likely considering that she got one of the three ultimate Fairy Tail magics. I'm jumping on the bandwagon that hopes that it won't be enough to harm Bluenote too much, and that Gildarts needs to step in to own him. Fairy Glitter sounds like a barrier type of spell, with other words a defensive shield, so hopefully it won't be possible to actually harm others with it, only defend. If that's the case then it might not be that awful for Kana to receive it.

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 07:49 AM
How have people not realised yet?

fairy dust/glitter

bluenotes gravityish magic

his comment about the fairy's not yet flying

peter pan, fairy dust allows you to fly...

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 08:00 AM
I find it kind of lame that it turned out this way. This is pretty much the definition of a cheap power up. Hopefully she won't become too uber out of the blue, even though that's highly likely considering that she got one of the three ultimate Fairy Tail magics. I'm jumping on the bandwagon that hopes that it won't be enough to harm Bluenote too much, and that Gildarts needs to step in to own him. Fairy Glitter sounds like a barrier type of spell, with other words a defensive shield, so hopefully it won't be possible to actually harm others with it, only defend. If that's the case then it might not be that awful for Kana to receive it.

Cana got a powerup yes truee but will she be able to use it, or could it backfire because its too much for her?


How have people not realised yet?

fairy dust/glitter

bluenotes gravityish magic

his comment about the fairy's not yet flying

peter pan, fairy dust allows you to fly...
you're saying Cana is going to turn into a fairy by any chance? *giggles* that would be something xD

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 08:01 AM
No, no, can't see that happening:D
It will lead to the same results as with Makarov vs Hades, that battle was all about experience and Hades clearly had(/s) the most.

Personally, I think Bluenote will face of against Cana with Fairy Glitter and Cana will either win and thus proving to herself that she's worthy being Gildartz daughter or she'll lose but still manage to do some damage and interrupting the battle will be Gildartz.

Anyway, as some mentioned this was a major twist.
Though I early on thought that she did it to prove it for someone I never would've guessed on Gildartz. It's funny how can't even remember those two at the same panels.

About those three magics of the guild what does Bluenote mean by "it's written within Fairy Law", is that a mistranslation or what? Also, Bluenote said that it's radiance rejects the presence of any foes, that's very similar to Fairy Law but instead of judging and thus hurting it seems to have some protective and/or potentially a healing effect. If I'm not mistaken fairy glitter or more formally known fairy dust often has an enchanting effect on the person it lands. I'm guessing for a universal healing or power-up move coming next.

EDIT:



Laxus learned it on his own.

your ignoring the fact Mavis is gifting Cana a rare magic spell here. Its not like shes just someone, adding the fact FTs most powerfull mage is her dad makes her just as much a worthy heir to the guildmastership.
Granted she gets the S-Class now.

Also take in consideration that non of the 3 guildleaders was bloodrelated to his predecessor (as far as we know for mavis)

So what makes Laxus the new guildleader then? Apart from him being a tough S-class mage. And for Makarovs will. Well maybe there is something else then being the guild leader in makarovs will.
The fan comunity burned its hands more then once taking the shortcut by claiming the meaning behind actions and words. So this should not be an acception.

I just think this is realy a rare instance where the 1st FT guildmasters spirt (i asume it is) grants a spell on a worthy mage. Note that non of the other S-class mages seem to have a added ability (other then Laxus learning the Fairy-Law thrue unknown means). And im positive Laxus didnt fully understand what Fairy Law is. And thus used it without succes.

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 08:01 AM
idk about that, but she'll like spray fairy dust all over everyone and they'll all learn to fly then happy will feel left out!

3c
April 26, 2011, 08:06 AM
How have people not realised yet?

fairy dust/glitter

bluenotes gravityish magic

his comment about the fairy's not yet flying

peter pan, fairy dust allows you to fly...

That would make a lot of sense had it not been for Bluenote basically saying what Fairy Glitter does (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/5) in this chapter, that's assuming he knows what he's talking about, and I assume he does.

According to Bluenote, Fairy Glitter rejects foes (and magic?). So it sounds like a defensive barrier type of magic. It could for example be something like a 10 meter radius around Kana where no foes or hostile spells can enter, meaning she's a walking immunity shield. But that would also be highly unbalanced as there would be no way to actually get to her. At any regard I hope she doesn't become too uber from this upgrade.

Fairy Glitter being a protective shield type of magic also makes a lot of sense if you think about Mavis' grave, which should naturally have protection around it to prevent grave robbing etc. So Fairy Glitter naturally serves that purpose. Although if Bluenote was intending to claim the magic, then he should have means to get past it, meaning Kana won't be that uber against him.

Zeltrax
April 26, 2011, 08:20 AM
I might consider dropping ft if Kana beats Bluenote.
I can already see where this is going.
What I find awesome is the plot twist with Gildart and Kana's backstory is quite sad, some might find foolish, but she had to live up to Gildart's expectations afterall and after such a long time those feelings will keep building up.

I won't like it a bit if Kana defeats Bluenote alone but if Gildart joins in together and it becomes a father-daughter fight, it'll be awesome.

Now, we only have hades left.
Not natsu please..

chess4
April 26, 2011, 08:21 AM
wow.....just wow!!! fairy tail continues to amaze me. i would have never guessed that gildarts was her father. now cana has one of the 3 great magics of fairy tail. GET EM GIRL

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 08:26 AM
That would make a lot of sense had it not been for Bluenote basically saying what Fairy Glitter does (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/5) in this chapter, that's assuming he knows what he's talking about, and I assume he does.

According to Bluenote, Fairy Glitter rejects foes (and magic?). So it sounds like a defensive barrier type of magic. It could for example be something like a 10 meter radius around Kana where no foes or hostile spells can enter, meaning she's a walking immunity shield. But that would also be highly unbalanced as there would be no way to actually get to her. At any regard I hope she doesn't become too uber from this upgrade.

Fairy Glitter being a protective shield type of magic also makes a lot of sense if you think about Mavis' grave, which should naturally have protection around it to prevent grave robbing etc. So Fairy Glitter naturally serves that purpose. Although if Bluenote was intending to claim the magic, then he should have means to get past it, meaning Kana won't be that uber against him.

Well Cana didnt know what was happening at first either but she wants to protect her guild, and *possibly with all Fairy spells* The heart of the user must be pure.
So im doubtfull BlueNote had any chance of gaining the spell, but i dont know the character well enough (nobody does).

As for Purito he made his own version of Fairy Law. For the sole reason of countering Makarovs Fairy Law. So im sure Cana just gained an edge over GH. Its still no war winner ofc since 1 spell wont do much good you need a multitude of good fighting abilities.
Purito outclassed Makarov on every front thats why Makarov lost. So surely Cana wont just win due to this 1 spell + it seems its a defencive spell, and we know Canas attack spells wont do anything vs Bluenote im sure.

However what i hope is that Gildarts shows up and recognizes Cana (or more say her mother in her) and realizes the mistake he made. -expecting bricks tossed at me now-
But yes Gildarts made a mistake, even though hes so powerfull he didnt realize this little girl was actualy his daughter. He was more concerned with his magic-related activities then wonder why this girl showed up at the guild in the first place and ask about her parents.
[hr]

I might consider dropping ft if Kana beats Bluenote.
I can already see where this is going.
What I find awesome is the plot twist with Gildart and Kana's backstory is quite sad, some might find foolish, but she had to live up to Gildart's expectations afterall and after such a long time those feelings will keep building up.

I won't like it a bit if Kana defeats Bluenote alone but if Gildart joins in together and it becomes a father-daughter fight, it'll be awesome.

Now, we only have hades left.
Not natsu please..

She wont win, she might make a good stand and protect everyone for a while but im sure Bluenotes experience as a warrior will get the upper hand.
I hope Gildarts shows up in time and realizes who she is and recognizes his wife/g/f/lover? in her and then understands what a big mistake he made.
Then hes gonna crush Bluenote for her.


Note:

To bad Cana will remain single now...nobody will dare get close to her with such a horrificaly strong daddy...

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 08:33 AM
That would make a lot of sense had it not been for Bluenote basically saying what Fairy Glitter does (http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/5) in this chapter, that's assuming he knows what he's talking about, and I assume he does.

According to Bluenote, Fairy Glitter rejects foes (and magic?). So it sounds like a defensive barrier type of magic. It could for example be something like a 10 meter radius around Kana where no foes or hostile spells can enter, meaning she's a walking immunity shield. But that would also be highly unbalanced as there would be no way to actually get to her. At any regard I hope she doesn't become too uber from this upgrade.

Fairy Glitter being a protective shield type of magic also makes a lot of sense if you think about Mavis' grave, which should naturally have protection around it to prevent grave robbing etc. So Fairy Glitter naturally serves that purpose. Although if Bluenote was intending to claim the magic, then he should have means to get past it, meaning Kana won't be that uber against him.

it rejects their 'presence'

now if you were to be flying away from an enemy so high they couldn't reach you, I'd say you're definitely rejecting their presence. :p

Evil3ye
April 26, 2011, 08:59 AM
Wah, I found it's a very nice turn of events. Cana's motives being revealed finally, even though I found the part of Gildartz being her father tad cheesy.

The fact hat she was on par with Erza and Mirajane though once makes something up for the powerup, as Cana has really been shown as one of the least impressing characters so far, mainly because we've seen her too little in action. Her fifth attempt in the test and the past with Erza and Mira adds all up very well in my opinion, so the later promotion will be well deserved. Way more than a S-Class Natsu or Gray. My two cents.

I'm not seeing her owning Bluetone now, neither do I believe Mashima will dash her performance against him right after this power up. Most likely I think Gildatz will give her a hand in the middle of their fight, so that we then have a father-daughter combo fight ;D

Baka_Sousui
April 26, 2011, 09:10 AM
The way Bluenote describes Fairy Glitter sounds very similar to Fairy Law. Having to powers exist with similar ability sounds a bit pointless though. But since I don't know the properties of it yet, I'll just have to wait and see.

Also on Cana's father, wasn't expecting that one at all. That's some big shoes to fill. Hope to see Cana finally kicking some butt. We all know Gildartz is crazy strong, but why must he show up and save the day? Why must a daughter live in the shadows of her father? This arc is somewhat about Cana and her need to come out from her father's shadow and shine for herself. She wanted to be accepted by her father, but what she was really looking for is self acceptance. Also there's a chance Gildartz already knows about her but hasn't said anything for his own reasons.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 09:10 AM
i do like the idea of Gildartz and Cana vs badies but i have no idea how mashima will bring him back i hope they'll have that finally Gil recognizes Cana as his own daughter ^^ i knew she could be counted on and if she disappointed me now she got back my trust and i find her character to be very believable and real!

hades is too strong though and will not be beaten her, ultear neither they will probably take Zeref and next arc we might get a Zeref arc or a pre-Zeref infomative one xD Capricorn would remember his time at GH so he might say something

Atobe the king
April 26, 2011, 09:13 AM
You guys move way too fast and this post is old but...

@Sarutobi sensei

At one point i actually DID think the man Cana wanted to meet was Gidarltz, but i thought it was romantic or something then realized this is FT and immediately dismissed it. When she said it was her dad, i figured it couldn't be bluenote since he's destined for the beating of his life pretty soon. I thought it'd be some non introduced character but that'd have a weak impact overall. But i honestly thought Gidarltz was the obvious choice..so obvious i didnt expect it.

As for her 180......she hasn't really "redeemed" herself. She left Lucy in the forest unconscious and undefended and she almost got the crap kicked out of her by Kain. Finally getting your shit together is nice and all but rereading all these chapters she fucked up bad.

Lucy is one of her closest friends no? Who had no business on this island but dragged herself there for Canas sake, and look what happened. Separating from gray was dumb as well, Gray is a capable mage of course...but 3 is always better than one. It's like she wasn't thinking :V

-If the the guildmaster and a good chunk of the guild die whats the point of becoming S-Class :V "Oh hey guys...you took a beating...and the master keeps teatering between living and seeing the white light BUT I'M S-Class :DDDDD"
-She'snot laxus...if the guild ends up hating you for your idiocy i don't think you'd be too comfortable there, s gidarltz worth throwing away so many relationships?
-This obsession with finding her dad made her screw over the people who've actually BEEN there as family.

zelllogan
April 26, 2011, 09:14 AM
wow.....just wow!!! fairy tail continues to amaze me. i would have never guessed that gildarts was her father. now cana has one of the 3 great magics of fairy tail. GET EM GIRL

I'm not amazed by that. It's coming out of nowhere & it's not the first time that the mangaka is pulling out a rabbit out of his ass.

But even if the revelation itself was IMO poor, the way it was done was way better. And it's hard not to root for Cana now.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 09:24 AM
The way Bluenote describes Fairy Glitter sounds very similar to Fairy Law. Having to powers exist with similar ability sounds a bit pointless though. But since I don't know the properties of it yet, I'll just have to wait and see.

Also on Cana's father, wasn't expecting that one at all. That's some big shoes to fill. Hope to see Cana finally kicking some butt. We all know Gildartz is crazy strong, but why must he show up and save the day? Why must a daughter live in the shadows of her father? This arc is somewhat about Cana and her need to come out from her father's shadow and shine for herself. She wanted to be accepted by her father, but what she was really looking for is self acceptance. Also there's a chance Gildartz already knows about her but hasn't said anything for his own reasons.

Im gonna go against your idea of this.

About the part of self acceptance your right, but there is a catch. You should accept yourself as you are, and not (only) when your powerfull enough to be recognized.

So she should accept herself and see herself good enough as his daughter regardless of her magical abilities. The entire idea of getting strong to be seen is flawed.

What would solve this is her standing her ground (for a while) protecting her beat up friends from Bluenote (keep in mind she only has this 1 powerfull spell) I dont expect her to last that long but at least long enough for Gildarts to arive.
Then Bluenote will want to kill Cana to take the spell off her (shes by then pretty beat up and Bluenote might even call her unworthy of the spell shes gifted).
Gildarts saves her and together they fight Bluenote and defeat him.
And by then Hades will prolly show up and it will get pretty ugly by then.
[hr]

You guys move way too fast and this post is old but...

@Sarutobi sensei

At one point i actually DID think the man Cana wanted to meet was Gidarltz, but i thought it was romantic or something then realized this is FT and immediately dismissed it. When she said it was her dad, i figured it couldn't be bluenote since he's destined for the beating of his life pretty soon. I thought it'd be some non introduced character but that'd have a weak impact overall. But i honestly thought Gidarltz was the obvious choice..so obvious i didnt expect it.

As for her 180......she hasn't really "redeemed" herself. She left Lucy in the forest unconscious and undefended and she almost got the crap kicked out of her by Kain. Finally getting your shit together is nice and all but rereading all these chapters she fucked up bad.

Lucy is one of her closest friends no? Who had no business on this island but dragged herself there for Canas sake, and look what happened. Separating from gray was dumb as well, Gray is a capable mage of course...but 3 is always better than one. It's like she wasn't thinking :V

-If the the guildmaster and a good chunk of the guild die whats the point of becoming S-Class :V "Oh hey guys...you took a beating...and the master keeps teatering between living and seeing the white light BUT I'M S-Class :DDDDD"
-She'snot laxus...if the guild ends up hating you for your idiocy i don't think you'd be too comfortable there, s gidarltz worth throwing away so many relationships?
-This obsession with finding her dad made her screw over the people who've actually BEEN there as family.

What do you meen shes no laxus? If anyone screwed over the guild its Laxus. Its just that deep in his heart the guild is his family their his friends. He just has this shadowside/desire to have a strong guild wich is a reflection of how weak he actualy is without the dragonslayer lachrima.

Same with Cana, wants to be recognized by her dad and ends up making wrong choices. Her heart however shows her that what she did is wrong.

Both of them have a desire not a wrong desire but a wrong way to achieve what they want. And make mistakes.

To me this is just the same thing and factualy acurate, i cant help it if half the people on the forums ship Laxus for his pikachu apearance :D

-dodges bricks-

Btw i wouldnt be surprised if Laxus ends up with Cana LaxusxCana!

-dodges 2nd volley of bricks-

eefrit
April 26, 2011, 09:44 AM
Honestly, I can't say I enjoyed this chapter. I was not satisfied with Cana's reason for being selfish. She was sent to find her father, but when she did, she could not work up the courage to speak to him. Then for some odd reason she gets an inferiority complex to him and wants to prove herself to him just so that she could say that she is worthy to be his daughter. That just makes no sense to me and honestly makes me dislike her even more. Gildartz being her father was an interesting twist, but I couldn't care less at this point. This chapter was just...disappointing.

Add that to the power up at the end, and that just makes it even worst for me. I predict that next chapter we get Erza versus Azuma, Bluenote talking about his goals, and Cana finding Natsu and the gang. That will lead to Cana fighting Bluenote and then losing after damaging him to an extent. Gildartz will come and then that side-plot will resolved.

Kazu-Sama
April 26, 2011, 09:59 AM
Now that Cana is revealed to be gildartz's daughter, I think Gildartz will potentially die in a suicide attack on Hades. Hades will be defeated, of course, but Gildartz will die.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 09:59 AM
Honestly, I can't say I enjoyed this chapter. I was not satisfied with Cana's reason for being selfish. She was sent to find her father, but when she did, she could not work up the courage to speak to him. Then for some odd reason she gets an inferiority complex to him and wants to prove herself to him just so that she could say that she is worthy to be his daughter. That just makes no sense to me and honestly makes me dislike her even more. Gildartz being her father was an interesting twist, but I couldn't care less at this point. This chapter was just...disappointing.

Add that to the power up at the end, and that just makes it even worst for me. I predict that next chapter we get Erza versus Azuma, Bluenote talking about his goals, and Cana finding Natsu and the gang. That will lead to Cana fighting Bluenote and then losing after damaging him to an extent. Gildartz will come and then that side-plot will resolved.

could not work up the courage, let me see. Cana is 18 acording to her info. the text in the chapter says her mom died 12 years ago. So you find it strange that a 6 year old cannot bring up the courage to go up against this man whos strong enough to whipe out a city in a instant, that just told her to go home...

I dont see whats up with all the negativity. You cant expect a 6 year old to just bring up that courage against such a *great* man. She never met him and he doesnt seem to realy notice her that much + her mom just died.
The result being her closing up and not telling him anything about herself and continuously trying to catch up to him in the sense of magical power.

Btw if you notice the difference between the *3 girls* When they were younger Cana,Erza and Mira. Youll notice that Erza is the tough girl, Mira the bitch and cana the shy/cute girl. And to some extend she still is if you follow her conversation with Lucy. Shes incredibly insecure.

bittman
April 26, 2011, 10:04 AM
Then for some odd reason she gets an inferiority complex to him and wants to prove herself to him just so that she could say that she is worthy to be his daughter. That just makes no sense to me and honestly makes me dislike her even more.

Yes, because inferiority complexes are usually formed on the basis of long healthy debates and statistical fact. I thought the reason Kana fell into the inferiority complex was simple, combined with the fact that she joined a guild at a typically shy age and Gildhartz's seemingly minimal attention towards her and the complex is quite un-odd from my perspective.

People with complexes like these make irrational decisions to those without experience of an inferiority complex. Whilst the rational decision from our view is of course to resolve things with Dadhartz and actually help your friends instead of yourself first, Kana's complex runs deep. It's something that's built within her over 12 years, it's not like she woke up on a bad day today, she has 12 years of the self-induced pressure to succeed convinced into her very bones.

I'm not against you hating Kana, heck I still don't particularly take to her character. However, if you can't see the character development here then that is what makes no sense to me and I'm going to at least need 2 paragraphs of the above length to resolve my issues.

1337 haxor
April 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
Gildartz is Cana's father?!

Holy cow badassery got woopass genes!

No wonder she drinks so much, I mean living in the shadow of someone this much awesome must be a bitch.

On the other hand that has to be the most haxor powerup anybody ever received in this series.

I mean, Cana just received a nuclear bomb and is likely the only one who can face of Bluenote now.

I just don't like this whole this might be my last fight thing, not that I am afraid she will die but that they will make such huge build without anything happenind.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
Yes, because inferiority complexes are usually formed on the basis of long healthy debates and statistical fact. I thought the reason Kana fell into the inferiority complex was simple, combined with the fact that she joined a guild at a typically shy age and Gildhartz's seemingly minimal attention towards her and the complex is quite un-odd from my perspective.

People with complexes like these make irrational decisions to those without experience of an inferiority complex. Whilst the rational decision from our view is of course to resolve things with Dadhartz and actually help your friends instead of yourself first, Kana's complex runs deep. It's something that's built within her over 12 years, it's not like she woke up on a bad day today, she has 12 years of the self-induced pressure to succeed convinced into her very bones.

I'm not against you hating Kana, heck I still don't particularly take to her character. However, if you can't see the character development here then that is what makes no sense to me and I'm going to at least need 2 paragraphs of the above length to resolve my issues.

True it was simple but we have to remember little children are much more affected by stuff than adults who can take them Cana is still a kid in a way 18 is not truly adult age its more like a transition stage were you're in between and Cana was what 5 or 6? simple stuff for us may not be that simple to children no?

for the rest i fully agree with you Cana is developing nicely so theres nor reason to hate a character whose portrayed as human may i remind you guys so give her a break, yes she F****ed up, Lucy could have gotten pretty hurt but we see that she didnt want that she cried like someone kicked her hard when she saw the sos card!

still have some faith in Mashima more than once he has surprised us in a tres cool way ^^ im sure this arc will end perfectly till now its my fav with the phantom arc xD

kamakazi_1996
April 26, 2011, 10:21 AM
i never would have guessed gildartz was kana's father and it looks like she has obtained a hax ass pull power up that is going to save the guild (fairy glitter) even though i dont know what it does i think she will take down blue note but if she is able to beat hades i will seriously think about dropping this manga, i dont want this kind of power up to suddenly make kana the strongest person in the guild, i still dont think she deserves to be an s-class because of this, i dont hate her i just dont like her, i would want natsu to be s-class the most because it would lead to more plot development and it will get more interesting, i dont know if this power is permanent or not but i think it is one of those power ups that happen once

still waiting the return of laxus and gildartz

Ero-Sanji
April 26, 2011, 10:22 AM
your ignoring the fact Mavis is gifting Cana a rare magic spell here. Its not like shes just someone, adding the fact FTs most powerfull mage is her dad makes her just as much a worthy heir to the guildmastership.
Granted she gets the S-Class now.

Also take in consideration that non of the 3 guildleaders was bloodrelated to his predecessor (as far as we know for mavis)

So what makes Laxus the new guildleader then? Apart from him being a tough S-class mage. And for Makarovs will. Well maybe there is something else then being the guild leader in makarovs will.
The fan comunity burned its hands more then once taking the shortcut by claiming the meaning behind actions and words. So this should not be an acception.

I just think this is realy a rare instance where the 1st FT guildmasters spirt (i asume it is) grants a spell on a worthy mage. Note that non of the other S-class mages seem to have a added ability (other then Laxus learning the Fairy-Law thrue unknown means). And im positive Laxus didnt fully understand what Fairy Law is. And thus used it without succes.

I don't know why you commented my post since it had nothing to do with the heir as a guild master. All I said was that there exist a S-class mage who wasn't guild master, yet, possessed one of the three strongest Fairy magic. Further notice, Laxus knew exactly how the magic worked but he didn't know that he had such deep feelings for his friends and family and that prevents the effects of Fairy Law.

Also, Mavis granted her the gift because she confessed her true desire to protect her friends not because she's special in some way...

eefrit
April 26, 2011, 10:22 AM
could not work up the courage, let me see. Cana is 18 acording to her info. the text in the chapter says her mom died 12 years ago. So you find it strange that a 6 year old cannot bring up the courage to go up against this man whos strong enough to whipe out a city in a instant, that just told her to go home...

I dont see whats up with all the negativity. You cant expect a 6 year old to just bring up that courage against such a *great* man. She never met him and he doesnt seem to realy notice her that much + her mom just died.
The result being her closing up and not telling him anything about herself and continuously trying to catch up to him in the sense of magical power.

I don't find it strange. Your right about her being young, but I just think that after several years of being with Fairy Tail she could have said something. And your right she never met him. Yet still she expected him to know her. As for him not noticing her, he does notice her, he was the one who encouraged her to go for the S-Class test.

I actually wouldn't put it past him that he knows that Cana is his daughter. He probably is feeling the same way as Cana is, can't work up the courage to speak to her for fear that she will hate him for ignoring her and leaving her and her late mother. We won't know until Gildartz himself come and speaks about it. Also magic shouldn't even enter the equation, the man himself is her father, not his power, not his popularity, and not his charisma.

She expected so much of herself that she ended up being a selfish, self pitying alcoholic, that didn't know what she had with the guild until everyone but her was in danger.

That is just my opinion on her character, who knows maybe I'm being way to critical on her. But I do know that this chapter made my opinion of her go way down, lower than it was before.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 10:30 AM
I don't find it strange. Your right about her being young, but I just think that after several years of being with Fairy Tail she could have said something. And your right she never met him. Yet still she expected him to know her. As for him not noticing her, he does notice her, he was the one who encouraged her to go for the S-Class test.

I actually wouldn't put it past him that he knows that Cana is his daughter. He probably is feeling the same way as Cana is, can't work up the courage to speak to her for fear that she will hate him for ignoring her and leaving her and her late mother. We won't know until Gildartz himself come and speaks about it. Also magic shouldn't even enter the equation, the man himself is her father, not his power, not his popularity, and not his charisma.

She expected so much of herself that she ended up being a selfish, self pitying alcoholic, that didn't know what she had with the guild until everyone but her was in danger.

That is just my opinion on her character, who knows maybe I'm being way to critical on her. But I do know that this chapter made my opinion of her go way down, lower than it was before.

Sorry but this aint Cana to blaim, shes 6 years old in the flashback and hes like (what you doing here little girl you should go home before your cloths smell like booze turns around and walks away)... her mom just died and as a little girl hearing this is Gildarts (hes my dad) didnt expect this of him. The little girl cannot realize this man doesnt recognize her cause he lacks the knowledge.
And as time passes ofc it gets more difficult + embarrassing.

What Gildarts should have done is go on 1 knee and ask the little girl what shes doing at fairy tail, where she lives and who shes looking for. He might have gotten an answer.

Btw how things went in this chapter how Mashima portrait it is perfectly human and could happen to anyone.
Its just briliant writing tbh

eefrit
April 26, 2011, 10:35 AM
People with complexes like these make irrational decisions to those without experience of an inferiority complex. Whilst the rational decision from our view is of course to resolve things with Dadhartz and actually help your friends instead of yourself first, Kana's complex runs deep. It's something that's built within her over 12 years, it's not like she woke up on a bad day today, she has 12 years of the self-induced pressure to succeed convinced into her very bones.


You got me here. It was built upon over 12 years. But as I stated in my post a few minutes ago, she should not have worried about the power he possessed. She should have confronted the man, not his power. Why is the fact that he is an S-Class mage so important? How would becoming one help? So what if he is strong. So what if he is popular. Then again, I'm trying to insert logic into a manga where cats can fly and talk. I should have expected myself to get angry at something like this.
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Btw how things went in this chapter how Mashima portrait it is perfectly human and could happen to anyone.
Its just briliant writing tbh

Not mad at the writing, just the character. Perhaps, I'm not empathic enough to understand her mindset.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 10:36 AM
I don't find it strange. Your right about her being young, but I just think that after several years of being with Fairy Tail she could have said something. And your right she never met him. Yet still she expected him to know her. As for him not noticing her, he does notice her, he was the one who encouraged her to go for the S-Class test.

I actually wouldn't put it past him that he knows that Cana is his daughter. He probably is feeling the same way as Cana is, can't work up the courage to speak to her for fear that she will hate him for ignoring her and leaving her and her late mother. We won't know until Gildartz himself come and speaks about it. Also magic shouldn't even enter the equation, the man himself is her father, not his power, not his popularity, and not his charisma.

She expected so much of herself that she ended up being a selfish, self pitying alcoholic, that didn't know what she had with the guild until everyone but her was in danger.

That is just my opinion on her character, who knows maybe I'm being way to critical on her. But I do know that this chapter made my opinion of her go way down, lower than it was before.

Gildartz went for a 100 year mission that lasted 3 years so i think she was 15 a difficult teen year by that time she must have failed recently her s-class trails for maybe the 1st time and must have felt pretty bad thus felt unworthy and then he left and it was too late by the time he came back she must have failed the other 2 times and felt even more unworthy plus she said it she wouldnt tell him until she was s-class like him

weird how her situation is almost completely like Lucy except for the daddy part ahaha man i'm slow, i'm still expecting a touching conversation from these too and a funny apology seen
Cana: sorry for leaving you out in the open
Lucy: what?
Cana:...nevermind *whistles*
and then what i said in the previous post will probably happen xD (see first page of this thread)

ShoobyDooBop
April 26, 2011, 10:36 AM
Kana is a fool for thinking that Makarov would sit there at the grave while they are under attack.It makes me laugh. It's a freaking surprise that Gildarts is Kana's father. And BOOM!!! Here comes the power-up!! Without training she's gonna freaking use it.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 10:39 AM
You got me here. It was built upon over 12 years. But as I stated in my post a few minutes ago, she should not have worried about the power he possessed. She should have confronted the man, not his power. Why is the fact that he is an S-Class mage so important? How would becoming one help? So what if he is strong. So what if he is popular. Then again, I'm trying to insert logic into a manga where cats can fly and talk. I should have expected myself to get angry at something like this.

As we see the flashbacks its shown that everyone loves Gildarts and hes a mage equaled by non. (well the guildmasters ofc but other then that). So what actualy happend is the situation got worse and worse, she loves him more then all the other guildmembers ofc since hes her dad, yet she never confronted him.
Finaly he talks to her about her chance to become S-Class and tells her to do her best, she must be 12-14? in that pallet. So she sees this as a chance to impress her daddy, pretty much a natural reaction but due to the situation and the outcome of her failing it warps into a complex.
Again realy good writing by Mashima.
Actualy this entire situation is out of anyones control and became a monster due to mistakes made by everyone. Im sure if someone asked the little girl who her mom was 1+1=2.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 10:41 AM
Kana is a fool for thinking that Makarov would sit there at the grave while they are under attack.It makes me laugh. It's a freaking surprise that Gildarts is Kana's father. And BOOM!!! Here comes the power-up!! Without training she's gonna freaking use it.

Again i repeat who says she is able to use it SUCCESSFULLY? though its true she shouldnt have expected the master to remain there with the attack on the island :/

im thinking Cana will have complications with the magic as she gets power yes but hey with power comes responsibilities and it needs control which Cana may not have, plus she might not know what kind of power she has now so she will have to use her brain and be careful

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 10:43 AM
Gildartz went for a 100 year mission that lasted 3 years so i think she was 15 a difficult teen year by that time she must have failed recently her s-class trails for maybe the 1st time and must have felt pretty bad thus felt unworthy and then he left and it was too late by the time he came back she must have failed the other 2 times and felt even more unworthy plus she said it she wouldnt tell him until she was s-class like him

weird how her situation is almost completely like Lucy except for the daddy part ahaha man i'm slow, i'm still expecting a touching conversation from these too and a funny apology seen
Cana: sorry for leaving you out in the open
Lucy: what?
Cana:...nevermind *whistles*
and then what i said in the previous post will probably happen xD (see first page of this thread)

she went up 4 times already so shes 14 when going up for her first trial if its every year and she entered 4 times in a row.

Sidenote:
Mirajane
Erza
Mystogan
Laxus

these all must have beaten her in a row,
And losing to the likes of them isnt a shame haha, all of them are stronger then Natsu currently is.(save Mirajane during the loss of Lisanna)

oniichan powaa
April 26, 2011, 10:48 AM
I don't think that cana, even with the new power-up, fairy glitter can defeat bluenote by herself. If she's fighting for her friends and the guild, then there's a chance that they (natsu and lucy most probably) will team up with her in the fight. Like natsu+lucy battle vs kain for example.

I know that most people are going for the cana+gildartz team up at the moment, but I have a feeling that gildartz might not show up when cana fights bluenote. Maybe he'll show up after the battle, explaining that he saw her defeat bluenote.
I mean, where the heck is he when the others are fighting GH to death??:mad

*fairy law+fairy glitter combo would be epic.

eefrit
April 26, 2011, 10:50 AM
As we see the flashbacks its shown that everyone loves Gildarts and hes a mage equaled by non. (well the guildmasters ofc but other then that). So what actualy happend is the situation got worse and worse, she loves him more then all the other guildmembers ofc since hes her dad, yet she never confronted him.
Finaly he talks to her about her chance to become S-Class and tells her to do her best, she must be 12-14? in that pallet. So she sees this as a chance to impress her daddy, pretty much a natural reaction but due to the situation and the outcome of her failing it warps into a complex.
Again realy good writing by Mashima.
Actualy this entire situation is out of anyones control and became a monster due to mistakes made by everyone. Im sure if someone asked the little girl who her mom was 1+1=2.

Sounds about right. Maybe I should have cooled down a bit before expressing my dissatisfaction with the chapter. I'm still disappointed, but after reading other peoples takes on it, I can view it in a more understanding light than I previously had. Also as much as I dislike her, Cana must have some serious skills to be a candidate for the S-Class test at such a young age.

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 10:50 AM
Great chapter!

I state to those that did enjoy it and understand the depth that has been shown on Cana's behalf... good for you!

It will never get old or head spinning inducing... when you have members hate on this series just for the heck of it.

Her actions have been completely explained in the most humanly way possible. Those who can't grasp this, obviously have no idea what it is like for a child to want more than anything, to just impress their parents.

Then we have the "power up" situation... again perfectly understandable on how and why she gained it. Will it DEFEAT GH? Most likely not...

We all have been reading the same series for a good while now... yet some just still read to hate. Why? Nothing is forcing you to continue reading this.

I think at this point if you are not gaining any satisfaction from reading this series... you may want to consider moving on. :)

Now that , that has been released out of my system...

I believe that she will help the crew from Bluenote but will not succeed in fighting him off... eventually her father will come in to save the day, letting her know that he has always known who she was and was proud of her regardless of her rank.

(Watch out strength from friendship and family haters... :p)

I for one am quite happy with the series and always look forward to the next chapter. :)

ShoobyDooBop
April 26, 2011, 10:50 AM
Again i repeat who says she is able to use it SUCCESSFULLY? though its true she shouldnt have expected the master to remain there with the attack on the island :/

im thinking Cana will have complications with the magic as she gets power yes but hey with power comes responsibilities and it needs control which Cana may not have, plus she might not know what kind of power she has now so she will have to use her brain and be careful

You may be right and I still haven't read the previous posts so I didn't know that you already said that.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 10:50 AM
she went up 4 times already so shes 14 when going up for her first trial if its every year and she entered 4 times in a row.

Sidenote:
Mirajane
Erza
Mystogan
Laxus

these all must have beaten her in a row

yep pretty much and i meant that she was 15 when daddy left and that by that time she had already failed a trail plus all the younger ones surpassing her musnt have made her feel to good something more to feel ashamed of

wow i feel like a psychiatrist xD

Edit
@ShoobyDooBop sorry about that but i just feel powerup doesnt equal certain victory not this kind of rushed one ^^

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 10:52 AM
This chapter was a perfect story to redeem Cana!
Seriously - It is all there - Quite a detailed background - It explains all about her insecurity...

Quite personally - Having a dad like that and you being almost nothing in a guild! Its not a game! -
She held her father in such esteem that once she heard the S-Class word from his mouth - She knew if she'll become one, it'll be easier for her to approach Gil!
Failing the S-Class exam repeatedly! - Having peers outclassing you! -
You try your best - But your best is just not good enough!
Frankly - Being able to stick in the guild having all this buried inside is a feat! -

She saw her last chance of getting close to her father - the man she lived her life for - on a platter - It was her now or never moment! She could see nothing ahead!
FT is about friendship and strong emotions!

And the fact that you expect her to tell Gil that 'I am your daughter'...
is way too bold! >.<
I mean - it was tough on her! http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/11
"Dad wouldn't have been back...before he left for work again.."
Seriously - How many conversations do you think she had with Gil!? - Maybe if they had a whole month of bonding - She could find some way to slip that she's his daughter! You just see how shy she was when she was a kid!

Well - Obviously - How she finally come back to her senses...
Kinda cheesy -_-
But if you can manage to take in Natsu winning by 'nakama-power-ups'...
Erza winning yet another fight and 'Gray' losing his status in the manga...
This should be nothing! That's what FT is all about!

And those who want to drop reading - Feel free to - I really don't think it will affect the mangaka's work -
Such situations were always present in the manga - and will always keep coming...

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 10:54 AM
I don't think that cana, even with the new power-up, fairy glitter can defeat bluenote by herself. If she's fighting for her friends and the guild, then there's a chance that they (natsu and lucy most probably) will team up with her in the fight. Like natsu+lucy battle vs kain for example.

I know that most people are going for the cana+gildartz team up at the moment, but I have a feeling that gildartz might not show up when cana fights bluenote. Maybe he'll show up after the battle, explaining that he saw her defeat bluenote.
I mean, where the heck is he when the others are fighting GH to death??:mad

*fairy law+fairy glitter combo would be epic.

I think its natural for Gildarts to show up. Ill explain ^^

Cana now has Fairy glitter the move Bluenote wants, so hes gonna go for Cana now (if she shows up or not) It might even be she saves Levi and Lisanna first. And then Bluenote will come after her.
So who fights who first i dont know thats a lottery. But definitly Bluenote will want to kill her and take Fairy glitter from her. So they will fight. And i expect thats she will do pretty ok at first but during the followup chapters shes gonna start to lose due to lack in experience or w/e and when Bluenote is about to take her out and she *realizes she aint worthy after all* Gildarts will save her and together theyll beat Bluenote.

Thats how i kinda picture it and after that theyll talk. Cana might start out like shes worthless etc and then Gildarts will ask why and then comes the truth.

another sidenote: i love making these

Gildarts showed Natsu the damage the black dragon made on him, losing his arm,leg and god knows wich organs. Im not so sure others (then perhaps makarov) know this.
So im wondering how this will affect him in a real 1v1 vs Bluenote who might prove to be more then a match. So i wouldnt be so sure as to Gildarts owning anyone with serious fighting power.
Also these facts might shock his little girl during battle.

1337 haxor
April 26, 2011, 11:05 AM
Cana getting that magic while Erza and Mira didn't is easily explained by the fact that none of them had an exam while Tenrou Island was under attack from a powerful dark faction.

Fairy Glitter (glitter is a shiny dust people use in decoration and parties) must be a hell of a magic and distributing it to every S-Class member would be like nuclear proliferation.

Worse to think if you consider that some of them riot and quit the guild, heck if even the second master became such bastard it would be like making FT the source of terrorism in that world.

Jorge D. Dragon
April 26, 2011, 11:06 AM
Actually it was a pretty good chapter.:) I completly agree with ghostexiled that the chapter actually explained Cana's behaviour rather good and that's great that she understood the actual need to protect her comrades and her family (in some way the whole Guild is one family).
It was also rather interesting to learn that Cana's dad was Guildartz. I actually didn't expect this and that's actually great. Though it was really strange that he couldn't recognize his daughter. I hope they'll have their moment in this Arc.:)
The only thing I didn't like was this new super spell. It surely would be at the level of Fairy Law, but I hope it won't be enough to take out Bluenote. It would be actually a bit useless to introduce damn strong opponent and then KO him in several chapters after his introduction.:)
Also it's interesting if she actually learnt how to use the spell or it is given just for one time.
Also it's strange why Makarov didn't use it in the battle against Hades.

matzik1212
April 26, 2011, 11:08 AM
i can't believe that now cana became the hope of fairy tail really it's the world coming to an end or what 'cause she really doesn't deserve this privilege at all :mad ....
i really can't stand her at all since she didn't give a damn about the guild and went like crazy to find mavis's grave on her own knowing what the rest of her friends are facing right now(though i kinda understand why she did that since she's so damn weak and being the only one in the game assures the victory but still...*sigh..*)
btw i find her reason to be an s-class mage a half-assed one...i was really curious why she wanted that so bad since she was so desperate i thought it's a serious one but now i find that a very selfish reason

eefrit
April 26, 2011, 11:13 AM
i can't believe that now cana became the hope of fairy tail really it's the world coming to an end or what 'cause she really doesn't deserve this privilege at all :mad ....
i really can't stand her at all since she didn't give a damn about the guild and went like crazy to find mavis's grave on her own knowing what the rest of her friends are facing right now(though i kinda understand why she did that since she's so damn weak and being the only one in the game assures the victory but still...*sigh..*)
btw i find her reason to be an s-class mage a half-assed one...i was really curious why she wanted that so bad since she was so desperate i thought it's a serious one but now i find that a very selfish reason

I felt that way to, I dislike Cana as well and she was the last person I wanted to save the day, but several people on the board made more sense of it. I can't explain it how well they did, but after reading their reason it quelled my rage. Not saying to not be angry or disappointed, just check out what they had to say maybe that will make it a bit better. It kinda worked for me.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 11:14 AM
i can't believe that now cana became the hope of fairy tail really it's the world coming to an end or what 'cause she really doesn't deserve this privilege at all :mad ....
i really can't stand her at all since she didn't give a damn about the guild and went like crazy to find mavis's grave on her own knowing what the rest of her friends are facing right now(though i kinda understand why she did that since she's so damn weak and being the only one in the game assures the victory but still...*sigh..*)
btw i find her reason to be an s-class mage a half-assed one...i was really curious why she wanted that so bad since she was so desperate i thought it's a serious one but now i find that a very selfish reason

yeah but i think both Laxus and Mirajane became S-Class for selfish reasons. So becomming S-Class doesnt require one to not be selfish. Basicaly there is no harm done, Lucy is fine and Cana turned around litteraly abandoning her S-Class trial to save her friends/family.
Finaly both Cana and Gildarts will resolve their issue and im sure she will confess her *sin* to Lucy and Lucy as the person she is will forgive her, Cana will cry a bit and everyone will cheer her up.

Thats how Fairy Tail is written folks. Mashima chose this styl and its common in Shonen.

Atobe the king
April 26, 2011, 11:15 AM
I like how Cana went from Public enemy number 1 to OMG cana <3

@Ghost Exile...while i agree for the most part...you can't completely rationalize Cana's actions that way....there were explosions and other crazy shit all over the island that she flat out ignored. You can't be so obsessed with your goal that you practically ignore the fact that your family is dying out. it's not like she went ahead with the exam not knowing what was going on...she even encountered one of the seven kin. The severity of the situation was clear from the get go but she stayed on course for her plan.


Basicaly there is no harm done,

I can't agree with this at all. If everyone is going to start being empathetic towards cana and use pop psych and stuff to defend her then you can't say this.

oniichan powaa
April 26, 2011, 11:18 AM
Cana now has Fairy glitter the move Bluenote wants, so hes gonna go for Cana now (if she shows up or not) It might even be she saves Levi and Lisanna first. And then Bluenote will come after her.
So who fights who first i dont know thats a lottery. But definitly Bluenote will want to kill her and take Fairy glitter from her. So they will fight. And i expect thats she will do pretty ok at first but during the followup chapters shes gonna start to lose due to lack in experience or w/e and when Bluenote is about to take her out and she *realizes she aint worthy after all* Gildarts will save her and together theyll beat Bluenote.

No doubt that things might go that way. Yes, I agree that bluenote WILL go after cana since she have the fairy glitter now. They will fight..
But I still think that gildarts might/ might not join her fight with bluenote. :s
This should be HER fight, for her to 'redeem' herself after her undoing. Cana saying that this battle to be her last fight (as a fairy tail member) meaning that she's determined to give everything to win this, and (probably) resign from the guild. *The guild members will never agree I believe.
If Gildarts takes part in her fight against bluenote, it would conflict with her motivation because right now she's putting the guild over him. She's taking Fairy Tail members more as her family now, no less than the fact that Gildarts is her biological father.

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 11:19 AM
btw i find her reason to be an s-class mage a half-assed one...i was really curious why she wanted that so bad since she was so desperate i thought it's a serious one but now i find that a very selfish reason
I am so intrigued on how you think wanting your one and only parent that is seen as a God among Mages to see you as his daughter and a respectable mage as selfish? :oh

This is what people need to understand... her issue is a very COMMON issue with children. When you are small till you become your own person, nothing would satisfy you more than becoming someone worth something in your parents eyes.

Really guys... if the series focuses on the same characters always saving the day and/or developing... what is the point of the story about an entire guild? :blink

@Atobe - Her desperation caused blind ambition. She could of rationalized the explosions and GH attack as all part of the test. The human mind can be a fickle of a device. :)

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 11:19 AM
I like how Cana went from Public enemy number 1 to OMG cana <3

@Ghost Exile...while i agree for the most part...you can't completely rationalize Cana's actions that way....there were explosions and other crazy shit all over the island that she flat out ignored. You can't be so obsessed with your goal that you practically ignore the fact that your family is dying out. it's not like she went ahead with the exam not knowing what was going on...she even encountered one of the seven kin. The severity of the situation was clear from the get go but she stayed on course for her plan.

Hmm your right that it doesnt wash away your sin. But everyone in life is grey nobody is spotless.
People tend to look after themselves and their own goals sometimes without realizing they are neglecting those around them. A perfectly human reaction.
Fairy Tail isnt made up of saints. I personaly think its good to see the imperfections in Cana as well as Gildarts.

Also bare in mind that he either doesnt know he has a daughter or was left by his wife/lover. Surely where 2 quarrel both are to blaim.

I love the fact that Mashima makes the characters more down to earth and aproachable from time to time.

About the no harm done.

I basicaly mean that her mistakes are not inreversable, nobody died due to her neglecting behavior. The sorrow would be much greater if Lucy were inreversably damaged or died.
Since that didnt happen i say no harm done.

You ever had someone preform a wreckless sliding on you during a football match among friends? Usualy your friend is shocked after he makes this mistake apologizes and looks all worried, and youll say hey im ok dont worry ^^"

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 11:23 AM
I like how Cana went from Public enemy number 1 to OMG cana <3

@Ghost Exile...while i agree for the most part...you can't completely rationalize Cana's actions that way....there were explosions and other crazy shit all over the island that she flat out ignored. You can't be so obsessed with your goal that you practically ignore the fact that your family is dying out. it's not like she went ahead with the exam not knowing what was going on...she even encountered one of the seven kin. The severity of the situation was clear from the get go but she stayed on course for her plan.



I can't agree with this at all. If everyone is going to start being empathetic towards cana and use pop psych and stuff to defend her then you can't say this.

Did she really completely accept FT as a family?
She joined FT just because it was the only place to wait for her father who came here during his missions...
Do we know - if she had some kind of major bonding moment with the guild - Just like Lucy had during the Phantom Arc!?...
Frankly - She was always quite aloof in her own world...
The fact that she was willing to quit FT for her personal reasons suggest that her father was the reason for everything - Even a reason for her to join the guild in the first place...

Obviously - as I said above - the whole coming back to your senses was quite cheesy...
But FT remains faithful to its style! :amuse
Its weird tho - How the card of Cana shined when Lucy is in danger from Bnote but not when she was in danger of getting crushed or dismembered by Kain! :oh

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 11:32 AM
Did she really completely accept FT as a family?
She joined FT just because it was the only place to wait for her father who came here during his missions...
Do we know - if she had some kind of major bonding moment with the guild - Just like Lucy had during the Phantom Arc!?...
Frankly - She was always quite aloof in her own world...
The fact that she was willing to quit FT for her personal reasons suggest that her father was the reason for everything - Even a reason for her to join the guild in the first place...

Obviously - as I said above - the whole coming back to your senses was quite cheesy...
But FT remains faithful to its style! :amuse
Its weird tho - How the card of Cana shined when Lucy is in danger from Bnote but not when she was in danger of getting crushed or dismembered by Kain! :oh

Plothole!

Yeah unexplained but that might happen more often haha. Many stories have plotholes its no shame.
She does say she loves this guild, and wants to protect her friends, with all the flashbacks behind it of the 12 years she was there so its not that cheesy as it might seem.
Its not like she was there and only drank beer staring at her dad.

oniichan powaa
April 26, 2011, 11:32 AM
Gildarts showed Natsu the damage the black dragon made on him, losing his arm,leg and god knows wich organs. Im not so sure others (then perhaps makarov) know this.
So im wondering how this will affect him in a real 1v1 vs Bluenote who might prove to be more then a match. So i wouldnt be so sure as to Gildarts owning anyone with serious fighting power.
Also these facts might shock his little girl during battle.

Oh?:blink
If cana realizes that gildarts is serously injured from the 100 years mission, then..
Hm.. Food for thought, food for thought.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 11:36 AM
Oh?:blink
If cana realizes that gildarts is serously injured from the 100 years mission, then..
Hm.. Food for thought, food for thought.

chapter 166 midway thrue he shows Natsu, and the only time hes showing his body is during their encounter in the trial, that you can see his body. Other then that hes fully cloaked. So nobody sees the damage.

In chapter 200 he hangs on the bar but you cant tell hes missing anything.

Atobe the king
April 26, 2011, 11:38 AM
She's 18...still a kid essentially, so i can understand SOME of it. But she made it clear she was aware of what was going on in regards with the attack.

I can't help but feel if you turn this around to any other character (Natsu, Lucy,Erza,Gray) they would have come to this revelation a lot sooner, hell it Natsu's case there wouldn't even be a moral dilemma.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 11:38 AM
I believe the reason Cana wants to be s-class is respectable and very realistic which is awesome for a shonen aimed at 13+ guys come on what do you want her reason to be? children and parent realtionships are imp for kids tey make them who they are, and this event in Cana's life made her who she is and we can see she was troubled but her peers managed to 'save her' as shown in this chapter, give the girl a break its more painful than you think it is. what do you want her to have as a past abuse or something? half-assed i dont really agree :/ i know what it means to try and gain attention from parents or being compared and it hurts like hell, and when you are comparing yourself its worse much worse


Its weird tho - How the card of Cana shined when Lucy is in danger from Bnote but not when she was in danger of getting crushed or dismembered by Kain!
thats weird or maybe it only shines if you're in danger of death for like prolonged lucy has now been under gravity for some time and bluenote seems to be increasing its power AND maybe it only activates if lucy asks for help like she did now but not with kain

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 11:46 AM
She's 18...still a kid essentially, so i can understand SOME of it. But she made it clear she was aware of what was going on in regards with the attack.

I can't help but feel if you turn this around to any other character (Natsu, Lucy,Erza,Gray) they would have come to this revelation a lot sooner, hell it Natsu's case there wouldn't even be a moral dilemma.
Well that is how life is... no two people are the same. Sure she can be 18, but she has burdened herself for the past 12 years with things that make your mind develop differently.

I am not trying to give a lecture on the human mind... but each persons mind handles and processes information differently. So the fact that she chose to push aside the fact that the island was under attack and then, in her moment of breakdown, realizes the foolish thing she has done, in avoiding the battle with GH... is perfectly understandable and realistic.

Your right that the core group would respond differently... cause they are more battle experienced than Cana is. They know how to cope and deal with oncoming attacks better than someone that has spent the majority of her time drunk and depressed.

Atobe the king
April 26, 2011, 11:50 AM
I don't want past abuse or any crap like that, i don't even remember saying i'm disappointed. I'm just a bit surprised that at all the 180's...rivaling Cana's :p. And of course i don't mind a good debate (not argument) though exiled is kicking my ass with his logic :mad

But seriously you can't really force symphathy on people. The one's who hated this development will continue to hate it. Her revelation felt rushed, but that's okay FT never really drags things out (thank god).

I'm probably also a bit pissed i didn't see gray or Ultear lol..could have squeezed them in with natsu getting wtfpwned.


drunk

OH there we go, thats Cana's endearing (to me) character trait....drinking like its going out of style and never being drunk.

I'd totally forgot about this lol.

kkck
April 26, 2011, 11:52 AM
Nice chapter. We all knew cana was going to get help from mavis but I never imagined it would be in such a fashion.

I also never imagined gildarts of all people would be her dad. WTF. It does not strike me as if gildarts knows he has a daughter. Or perhaps he knows about cana but he does not have the guts to face her for not being there.

Anyways, I was a tad surprised to hear there are 2 other magics like fairy law. Perhaps they are magics meant to complement each other. Fairy magic would seem to have the purpose of protecting the guild. Fairy law unilaterally eliminates the enemies. Perhaps Fairy glitter eliminates individual people, like a less massive version of fairy law? If the magic is meant to protect the guild then perhaps the last one is meant to heal allies?

Sollum
April 26, 2011, 11:55 AM
This is what people need to understand... her issue is a very COMMON issue with children. When you are small till you become your own person, nothing would satisfy you more than becoming someone worth something in your parents eyes.


You know, a simple "Hi dad! I am your daughter Cana, my mother died!" would have solved the issue...

But oh well, i can tell you one thing, that such stuff is not related to the age. Last week i saw a guy with half of his face bruised, through my pals i found out what was the deal... So it's like this "He jumped out through second floor window trying to impress a girl...". Man, that was hilarious. Btw, he is 22.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 11:56 AM
Nice chapter. We all knew cana was going to get help from mavis but I never imagined it would be in such a fashion.

I also never imagined gildarts of all people would be her dad. WTF. It does not strike me as if gildarts knows he has a daughter. Or perhaps he knows about cana but he does not have the guts to face her for not being there.

Anyways, I was a tad surprised to hear there are 2 other magics like fairy law. Perhaps they are magics meant to complement each other. Fairy magic would seem to have the purpose of protecting the guild. Fairy law unilaterally eliminates the enemies. Perhaps Fairy glitter eliminates individual people, like a less massive version of fairy law? If the magic is meant to protect the guild then perhaps the last one is meant to heal allies?

i would think the healing magic would be fairy glitter but maybe it sounds actually more of a barrier defence type of magic like instead of annihilating your enemies like feairy law it wards them off or takes your friends to a safe place?
also name makes me thing of shiny stuff xD

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 11:58 AM
Nice chapter. We all knew cana was going to get help from mavis but I never imagined it would be in such a fashion.

I also never imagined gildarts of all people would be her dad. WTF. It does not strike me as if gildarts knows he has a daughter. Or perhaps he knows about cana but he does not have the guts to face her for not being there.

Anyways, I was a tad surprised to hear there are 2 other magics like fairy law. Perhaps they are magics meant to complement each other. Fairy magic would seem to have the purpose of protecting the guild. Fairy law unilaterally eliminates the enemies. Perhaps Fairy glitter eliminates individual people, like a less massive version of fairy law? If the magic is meant to protect the guild then perhaps the last one is meant to heal allies?

i guess considering the fact that bluenote (a mage with an incredible destruction power) is searching for that magic makes it sure that is indeed more powerful than fairy law. i do not think bluenote is doing all this stuff to get a magic to get down an enemy. he can do it with his own magic. there has to be something really strong about it

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 12:04 PM
Nice chapter. We all knew cana was going to get help from mavis but I never imagined it would be in such a fashion.

I also never imagined gildarts of all people would be her dad. WTF. It does not strike me as if gildarts knows he has a daughter. Or perhaps he knows about cana but he does not have the guts to face her for not being there.

Anyways, I was a tad surprised to hear there are 2 other magics like fairy law. Perhaps they are magics meant to complement each other. Fairy magic would seem to have the purpose of protecting the guild. Fairy law unilaterally eliminates the enemies. Perhaps Fairy glitter eliminates individual people, like a less massive version of fairy law? If the magic is meant to protect the guild then perhaps the last one is meant to heal allies?

Well theoreticaly there are a few options to the situation, but im gonna exclude him being an asshole and dumping her mother, also due to the fact she left in her will she should go to her dad.

her mother didnt want a mages life and due to the danger gildarts seeks (the 100year quest) not entirely unreasonable. so they split up and he regrets it eversince.

Now comes the tricky part did they split up knowing he had a daughter yes or no?

If he knew he might have given up the life of a carefree mage resulting in him being unhappy so im asuming she hid from him the fact he has a child.
I base these facts.

-Gildarts is a nice guy (seriously)
-she told her daughter to go to her dad and gave her his name. Cana didnt know her dads name prior to her mothers death and that hes a great mage...<why mention this.
-On top of that comes shes 6 and he never even visited? again unlikely.

Now comes the mystery part of his brief conversations with her, it is possible that he did know but found out from a distance. His former lover has a child? Its his? She left me while pregnant?

So he never made a move and just watched from a distance < this is highly likely.

So when Cana showed up he might not have known her mother was dead and told her to go home.
When she stayed he checked out and found out her mother passed on. Tho he doesnt know why the girl is hanging around his guild without telling him and just watches over her from a distance. (its possible they both have the same flaw for hiding their feelings)

Kinda my background analysis/theory but i can be wrong ^^

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 12:07 PM
Well theoreticaly there are a few options to the situation, but im gonna exclude him being an asshole and dumping her mother, also due to the fact she left in her will she should go to her dad.

her mother didnt want a mages life and due to the danger gildarts seeks (the 100year quest) not entirely unreasonable. so they split up and he regrets it eversince.

Now comes the tricky part did they split up knowing he had a daughter yes or no?

If he knew he might have given up the life of a carefree mage resulting in him being unhappy so im asuming she hid from him the fact he has a child.
I base these facts.

-Gildarts is a nice guy (seriously)
-she told her daughter to go to her dad and gave her his name. Cana didnt know her dads name prior to her mothers death and that hes a great mage...<why mention this.
-On top of that comes shes 6 and he never even visited? again unlikely.

Now comes the mystery part of his brief conversations with her, it is possible that he did know but found out from a distance. His former lover has a child? Its his? She left me while pregnant?

So he never made a move and just watched from a distance < this is highly likely.

So when Cana showed up he might not have known her mother was dead and told her to go home.
When she stayed he checked out and found out her mother passed on. Tho he doesnt know why the girl is hanging around his guild and just watches over her from a distance.

Kinda my background analysis/theory but i can be wrong ^^

it makes sense after all human relationships are quite complex and till now we have seen how complex cana's situation is so its quite believable ^^

Mashima is so good at deliverying these things thier simple but we can relate but not in an annoying Mary sue way!

1337 haxor
April 26, 2011, 12:11 PM
There are people in this world who have pleasure in hating something, there is no helping it. Just like that neighboor of yours who has a more luxurius life while working a lot less than you. :p

Cana's situation is undertandable, there are obcessions in our lives that some times make us forget what is really important to us, it's like trying to beat the last boss of your favorite video game while your family demands you to go out for a barbecue.

It also doesn't help that she was caught in this mess all of a sudden, she had never been so close to her objective before and out of nowhere came such dire threat it might have been that she shut herself to lala land and forgot reality.

Her breakdown is a snap, she ignored the exorbitatingly stressful situation around her and fixed her mind of her goal to keep herself together.

Now that she realized she went down the wrong path she woke up and is coming back with a nuke at her aid.

As for a fight with Bluenote I think that she will caught him of guard and land a massive blow with Fairy Glitter.

He will get up though and she will be far too exhausted from using such powerful magic.

Before he can finish her Gildartz arrives with raep face yelling "WTH ARE U DOING WITH MAH DAUGHTER?!".

meepers4982
April 26, 2011, 12:13 PM
Woooo go Cana!
im happy the way cana reflected on her actions and is now doing something positive. Gildartz being her father is definitely one of the biggest surprises i have encountered in the manga, especially since he was introduced as the type who kept traveling and never settled. I hope this ends well :)

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 12:14 PM
There are people in this world who have pleasure in hating something, there is no helping it. Just like that neighboor of yours who has a more luxurius life while working a lot less than you. :p

Cana's situation is undertandable, there are obcessions in our lives that some times make us forget what is really important to us, it's like trying to beat the last boss of your favorite video game while your family demands you to go out for a barbecue.

It also doesn't help that she was caught in this mess all of a sudden, she had never been so close to her objective before and out of nowhere came such dire threat it might have been that she shut herself to lala land and forgot reality.

Her breakdown is a snap, she ignored the exorbitatingly stressful situation around her and fixed her mind of her goal to keep herself together.

Now that she realized she went down the wrong path she woke up and is coming back with a nuke at her aid.

As for a fight with Bluenote I think that she will caught him of guard and land a massive blow with Fairy Glitter.

He will get up though and she will be far too exhausted from using such powerful magic.

Before he can finish her Gildartz arrives with raep face yelling "WTH ARE U DOING WITH MAH DAUGHTER?!".

I bump your theory, tho i dont expect Gildarts to win cause hes just banged up to much from his encounter with the black dragon. Bluenote is no pushover so yes he will come to aid but not succeeding or Hades shows up and pulverizes Gildarts dire effort.

Btw Gildarts wont die. His profile issue with Ivan isnt solved yet so him dieing is highly unlikely.

Host Samurai
April 26, 2011, 12:59 PM
What a chapter didn't see the Cana x Gildartz twist coming, like everyone else in here.

But now that Cana has obtained Fairy Glitter, I wonder how that will work. In theory it seems very similar to Fairy Law, now the interesting part will be the difference between those two spells.

If Fairy Glitter can expell every foe's magic then. I think the conclusion of this arc is near. Assuming that Cana can use Fairy Glitter to the extend that it covers the whole Tenrou Island, if it takes the form of a sphere. And this way we can also confirm, if Ultear's words were true that she is an ally and pose no threat for the Fairy Tail Mage's.

miramira
April 26, 2011, 01:31 PM
Re: Fairy Glitter
Fairy glitter, fairy island, fly, sink the boat.... oh yeaaa :D
I was just about to say the Peter Pan connection...but it appears you've also figured out already xD

Re: Fairy Glitter
I think of it like this:
Fairy Glitter = the name of the magic itself, or, the basic, raw magic, the "category"..
Fairy Law = the improved/customized magic using Fairy Glitter. It's like, Fairy Glitter mastered and personalized by Makarov (and later adapted by Laxus)
...example: Erza's magic= The Knight, but from it she can do: Heaven's Wheel, Flame Emperor, Flight armor magics. I think it's something like that.

Cana....
Whew. She's.................. G's daughter. Ohw...kay.... Tbh, I'm still a bit surprised, didn't even think of him as someone who'd have had a family.O_O
So, character development topix again.

I get the inferiority complex thing, I swear I do. She was six and truly it would be hard to feel worthy enough to claim to be the daughter of a mage as strong and respected like Gildartz. (And as one of you said, the way her dad aproached her the first time she saw her, she really couldn't have answered properly.) Child psychology-wise, I'll accept the reason she's so crazy about this S-class exam thingy.

Still. I didn't like how she left Lucy out in the open...so maybe one would say that Cana was losing her sanity and the only thing she could think of was getting to the grave she didn't think of the danger and practically lost all battle knowledge, whatever.
But there's still no proper explanation why she left Lucy. She has the Help!Lucy card this chapter so that means she cares for her but what's the need to separate w/her? I could think of some possibilities:
1-she wanted the prize for herself? nah, Lucy's not a contestant and Cana didn't know about the magic sealed.
2-she thought it's unsafe? nah, all she expected to see at the grave was Makarov, and she was too crazy abt the exam, that the guild war doesn't even register in her mind.
3-she just wanted to be alone? privacy matters? idts, but if so, what's there to hide,lucy knows already, and it just doesn't make sense.
...so why? O_O nevermind, i guess. next topix
Cana gaining Fairy Glitter...this feels like one of those power-UPs :// but this being Cana's first it's more forgivable than if Natsu was the one who had a powrup this chapter. The last page btw, was kinda scary. "This maybe my last battle" kinda sounds like character death to me O_O

Askia32
April 26, 2011, 01:34 PM
I'm not to keen on characters being ridiculously stupid rewarded with a power-up, but at least she understands how freakin stupid she has been. But it was a good flashback since we got more background on another character. I'm a lil anxious to see what this new magic can do.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 01:49 PM
I'm not to keen on characters being ridiculously stupid rewarded with a power-up, but at least she understands how freakin stupid she has been. But it was a good flashback since we got more background on another character. I'm a lil anxious to see what this new magic can do.

hmm wich other character may that be? Gildarts? Seriously apart from the few sentences he gave Cana we dont see all that much. More like him being mildly interested in Cana apart from his first encounter telling her to go home.
The rest is all about Cana.

White Silver King
April 26, 2011, 02:00 PM
Why would Bluenote want Fairy Glitter? If it just makes your foes go away, it'd make much more sense for him to want Fairy Law which actually kills all of one's foes. And another thing, shouldn't Purehito know where the grave is?

Sollum
April 26, 2011, 02:12 PM
Why would Bluenote want Fairy Glitter? If it just makes your foes go away, it'd make much more sense for him to want Fairy Law which actually kills all of one's foes. And another thing, shouldn't Purehito know where the grave is?

Now wheres the fun in that? Just killing is boring.

Style is everything, speed kills 8-)


Now when i think of it, Bluenote can kill anyone he wants anyways, what he needs is a tool that would protect him from being killed. Maybe Fairy Gliter will be some sort of warding magic, that shields your friends from any possible harm.

I hope that third spell shall be without "FAIRY" thingy >.>

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 02:16 PM
Now wheres the fun in that? Just killing is boring.

Style is everything, speed kills 8-)


Now when i think of it, Bluenote can kill anyone he wants anyways, what he needs is a tool that would protect him from being killed. Maybe Fairy Gliter will be some sort of warding magic, that shields your friends from any possible harm.

I hope that third spell shall be without "FAIRY" thingy >.>

yeah we got 2 spells now

-fairy law
-fairy glitter
-fairy??

could be fairy soul?

transform into a fairy > Lisanna

then you got

-mirajane (satan-soul)
-Elfman(beast-soul)
-Lisanna(fairy-soul)

well thats just a theory but i always expected her (since her return) to have a ubertransform some time so perhaps she will gain the 3rd spell.

Finale
April 26, 2011, 04:13 PM
I can understand the whole complex thing that Cana is going through to a degree. She knows the type of person Gildartz is, and would daddy really be happy knowing what she was willing to do (abandon the guild in their darkest hour) just to get an S-Class promotion? Just by her abandoning Lucy she pretty much disqualifies herself to be an S-Class mage of Fairy Tail.

When I was young I was willing to do crazy stuff too to impress my parents. But I always knew that if I went against our beliefs or their teachings they would be disappointed in me. They would've been upset if I cheated on a test and got an "A" they'd rather I get whatever on my own.

The truth is friends do stuff that hurt their friends feelings all the time. It wouldn't hurt as much if those people weren't your friends. But what I'm hoping for (I know it won't happen) is that things are a little strained between Cana and some of the others. Friends forgive each other but sometimes it takes time. And things would've been more dramatic if Cana's neglect caused someone to die.

As for the impending Cana Bluenote battle. I would've liked the setup better if she was going to face him with her own power as her getting Fairy Glitter makes it convienent to ditchthe others kinda like a "Wait here I'll go for help" as opposed to a "Hold them off while I go with my own plans".Also I hope this isn't a permanent powerup and is something that is a one-shot deal.

Gildartz I'm sure came to realize that Cana is his daughter as she got older and started looking like her mom I bet. When he realized he must've figured she'd a good reason to not approach him and would tell him in her own time. So I don't hate Cana (especially not after that colorspread last week :), but she still has some redeeming to do in my eyes, hope she doesn't get S-class just because she has Fairy Glitter and if she does I hope she isn't cocky like she was after Fried and Bixlow threw their fight.

meepers4982
April 26, 2011, 04:38 PM
hope she doesn't get S-class just because she has Fairy Glitter

i dont think she will become an s-class because of the fairy glitter but more because of the fact that she chose to go back and save her comrades like a fairytail mage :)

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 04:50 PM
i like the idea of fairy glitter disabling the enemies magic. that's the only possibility i can see that would make hades retreat.

the fascinating thing about the revelation of those three great spells is that although i don't even know what fairy glitter is, i'm totally curious about the third spell. it's just the shounen effect, the most powerful stuff always gets shown at the end so the third spell has to be the most badass of all...

imagine cana standing in front of bluenote saying "by fairy tail ordinance i will give you until the count of three." awesome ;)

BlackHair
April 26, 2011, 04:53 PM
I guess Im one of those who are disappointed with this chapter, especially after last weeks - which was pretty badass.

Cana was always a side character, someone who just appeared from time to time, without any major focus. We didn't know much of her, however we knew she wasn't one of the biggis - and I liked her that way. But Mashima started to focus more on her in this arc. At the beginning I was interested, however I lost my interest as she begun to act selfish - to a point I just hate her. This chapter is just about her, which is pretty uninteresting for me, I only care that Gilartz has a child, but I couldn't care less that it is Cana.

Anyway, Bluenote is after the three spells of FT. Law, Glitter and the unknown one. Im looking forward to Glitter.

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 05:11 PM
The manga focuses too much on the core group... LAME.

Now that the manga is focusing on other characters that have not been front runners... LAME.

As the saying goes... can't please everyone. :p

I find it interesting that Mashima has taken the time to develop out the former side character(s).

I mean, if this story was based on Fried or Bixlow... then bring it on, right?

But lets start giving the woman who has done nothing but be drunk and played with cards some history and depth, then it is the end of the world for some.

Like I previously stated, some either understand that what she has done makes perfect sense or they chalk it up to hating her for being "selfish".

I for one give a round of applause for Mashima, in putting forth the effort to care about his side characters. :)

goldb
April 26, 2011, 05:35 PM
I just loved how a lot of us went with the "Bluenote for father/brother or relative" theory, then BAM! Gildarts pops up with "Im the daddy bitches!" :lma

Nicely done by Mashima-sensei and I can't wait to see Fairy Glitter in action and to find out what the last of the 3 fairy spells is.

BlackHair
April 26, 2011, 05:35 PM
But the Problem is, if there is some kind of big battle/end the author has to focus on his main characters and on those who have played a big role in the manga. Cana is now one of those.

My problem can be easily explained if we look at Narutos. At the current war the author had to focus on several characters, with what the excitement is taken. Having too many characters can easily disturb the flow of the main plot/arc.

Atobe the king
April 26, 2011, 06:17 PM
Ghost if you don't stop saying the things i want to say i'll have nothing to say D:

I hope i didn't come off as MAD Cana got development, or even a good chunk of this arc to herself..just disappointed in her actions....meaning i actually like this manga XD;;; and i like sturing up "minor" trouble haha.

You are definitely right about not pleasing people, but this arc still not over it can go wrong....or everything can go right o:

Something tells me Gidarltz knows...

Askia32
April 26, 2011, 06:56 PM
hmm wich other character may that be? Gildarts? Seriously apart from the few sentences he gave Cana we dont see all that much. More like him being mildly interested in Cana apart from his first encounter telling her to go home.
The rest is all about Cana.

I meant Cana as the character. As in another character in Fairy Tail outside of the main 4 1/2.

Skyguardian
April 26, 2011, 07:00 PM
Fairy Glitter... Sounds even worse in German... (Feenglanz) yieks... XD

No offense... But fairy law sounded great...
This sounds like it was made out of a barbie merchandise...

Well but thats personal opinion.

At last I'm thinking about how it works. Will it be a one time spell like the one Lucy retrieved against Angel? Maybe the tatoo'll be fading... Would be strange to have Cana as one of the most powerful mages.
(I'm not denying her power but this would be ridiculous.)

So Gildarts turned out to be Cana's father... Nice development. I guessed everything but not that.
So it's kind of a foreshadowing for him to return and save his daugthers day I hope.

Furthermore we'll see Natsu beeing punshed around by Bluenote... I hope the later one is just toying because Natsu looks way to well.

Anyhow I'm really looking forward to the next chapter. Fairy Tail chapters are always way to short.

Razh
April 26, 2011, 07:03 PM
Well that was a silly reason to want to become an S-class. In real world. In a manga like this, going overboard with oaths like that are usual stuff. I'm not disappointed in how that turned out.

So, if Cana has Fairy Glitter, and Bluenote wants it, and Gildartz is Cana's father, and Bluenote captures or hurts Cana, what is supposed to happen? Man-fight, that's what!
I think the chances of Gildartz getting back to the island just increased with this development. Mashima likes to resolve stuff like this by the end of an arc.

EDIT: Oh that's right, here's my awesome prediction for the third secret magic - FAIRY LASER!!! (you know it!) :p

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 07:06 PM
@Atobe - I am not aiming at you when I am making my statements. This is a more of a general sweep to all that are hating Cana for being human and having human flaws.

Everyone in all sorts of shounen threads complain about how most shounen follow a template of sorts. But as soon as any author tries to show something that breaks that template... then this down pour of hate comes.

Like I stated earlier... I think there are a few members that are guilty of just reading this manga, so they can have more stuff to hate on.

Instead of doing what any normal person would and should do... STOP READING IT! They seem to have this addiction to continue on just for the sake of hating it.

This manga is about a Guild... meaning it SHOULD focus on more than the core group.

Sure introducing to many characters to the mix creates issues that some of the top mangas have atm.

But there isn't like there is some unwritten law that states an author can't handle and well execute a story that contains more characters with depth and meaning. Perfect example... One Piece. (but I am not in favor of comparing mangas!)

The issue I think that this chapter caused... is that it makes you have to think and understand that a person is not all Black or all White... majority of people sit in the Grey area.

The fact that he has introduced an element to Cana, makes her a more interesting character. I am not saying you have to LIKE her... but don't just hate her because she has daddy issues to work out. :)

My code as a reader/member/MOD is:

"Wait and see how it all adds up, before judging the characters or the series."

Skyguardian
April 26, 2011, 07:19 PM
Everyone in all sorts of shounen threads complain about how most shounen follow a template of sorts. But as soon as any author tries to show something that breaks that template... then this down pour of hate comes.




Like I stated earlier... I think there are a few members that are guilty of just reading this manga, so they can have more stuff to hate on.

Instead of doing what any normal person would and should do... STOP READING IT! They seem to have this addiction to continue on just for the sake of hating it.

Well thats human logic. You don't like your used surroundings and want a change. But as soon as this occurs... you'll hate it. It's not just manga... It's for the most of peoples parts of live.

I'm not good at empathizing but some people need a way to put the propblems on something which can't do anything but to endure.
That is of course not an appropriate way.


This manga is about a Guild... meaning it SHOULD focus on more than the core group.

Sure introducing to many characters to the mix creates issues that some of the top mangas have atm.

But there isn't like there is some unwritten law that states an author can't handle and well execute a story that contains more characters with depth and meaning. Perfect example... One Piece. (but I am not in favor of comparing mangas!)

One Piece is one of the view mangas which are able to do so. If you take Bleach on the other hand it's not even close at the development part for the minor Captains.
I kind of had the feeling to read something totally close to One Piece but also extremly different to it at the same time.


The issue I think that this chapter caused... is that it makes you have to think and understand that a person is not all Black or all White... majority of people sit in the Grey area.

The fact that he has introduced an element to Cana, makes her a more interesting character. I am not saying you have to LIKE her... but don't just hate her because she has daddy issues to work out. :)

Totally agreed. It's fine for a manga like this which prayses friendship and family more than anything else to have developed characters. Of course this has to happen little by little. Now it's finally Cana's turn and I really want to know what happens to her next.
Of course the main plot is reserved for Natsu, Lucy, Gray and Erza (and it seems Mashima wants to add Wendy into this main group) but it's really nice to see a character which wasn't outstanding before grow as a person. Or to me more appropriate... Watch her grow.

Zoro #1
April 26, 2011, 09:49 PM
Oh come on!!!!!! Now cana gets a legendary magic just like that, I wanted to see her fight on her own without the help of Fairy Glitter to get a sense of what she is really capable of and if afterwards she gets the power up i would have been fine with it, but to get it right from the start is kinda annoying.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 09:56 PM
Oh come on!!!!!! Now cana gets a legendary magic just like that, I wanted to see her fight on her own without the help of Fairy Glitter to get a sense of what she is really capable of and if afterwards she gets the power up i would have been fine with it, but to get it right from the start is kinda annoying.

Lets see,

Natsu eats etherion and sudenly beats the shit out of Jelal.
Natsu eats flame of rebuke and beats the shit out of Zero.
Natsu eats god flames and beats Zancrow.
Lucy gets key after key as freebees.
Lucy gets free whip from Virgo.

Ofc Natsu fought first and gets beat up and then gets the powerup but surely its the same deal here. Its a free powerup, it didnt require training. Also Cana went thrue 4 trials already and she surely did her quests to earn this trial spot, we just didnt see her doing quests cause she isnt a main cast member.
However that doesnt mean this is cheaper then with other people gaining powerups.

and due to me being tired im forgetting a lot more ^^

Zoro #1
April 26, 2011, 10:03 PM
Lets see,

Natsu eats etherion and sudenly beats the shit out of Jelal.
Natsu eats flame of rebuke and beats the shit out of Zero.
Natsu eats god flames and beats Zancrow.
Lucy gets key after key as freebees.
Lucy gets free whip from Virgo.

Ofc Natsu fought first and gets beat up and then gets the powerup but surely its the same deal here. Its a free powerup, it didnt require training. Also Cana went thrue 4 trials already and she surely did her quests to earn this trial spot, we just didnt see her doing quests cause she isnt a main cast member.
However that doesnt mean this is cheaper then with other people gaining powerups.

and due to me being tired im forgetting a lot more ^^

Yeah but we have seen them fight without those powers in the beginning also the problem with Cana is she hasn't been in a major fight that had her life in risk. We don't know what she is truly capable when pushed to the limit. The thing with Natsu and Lucy and others was that they hit their limit, get beaten to crap and then get a power up and this happened while fighting, unlike Cana who hasn't shown much and gotten a new power right from the start. I am not against her getting this power i just wanted to see her on her own and then if she gets it I would have have been ok with it.

shuha27
April 26, 2011, 10:37 PM
I really enjoyed this chapter. Big shock to see Cana's father is Gildartz. I really liked the development of Cana's character now. I understand her actions more because before I didn't really like her. She learned her lesson from what she did and now knows she won't screw over her friends again.

I really can't wait to see Fairy Glitter. Like other said before, I think it will be some sort of defensive ability but who knows. I really don't want Cana to beat Bluenote but I guess it might happen next chapter. Can't wait for the next chapter ^.^

kkck
April 26, 2011, 11:07 PM
Wonder if fairy dust would be more appropriate for the translation. I can't read Japanese but given the context I would think fairy dust kinda makes more sense. Maybe it allows the fairy tail members to fly lol? Or perhaps it will be a sort of methafor and kinda give the fairies back their winds so basically it heals allies. The main issue with that is that is that I can't imagine why someone who would seem to be a twisted SOB would want a magic to heal. I guess mashima will end up surprising us. Oh, and bluenote is screwed, cana will take him out.

Ero-Sanji
April 26, 2011, 11:38 PM
Oh come on!!!!!! Now cana gets a legendary magic just like that, I wanted to see her fight on her own without the help of Fairy Glitter to get a sense of what she is really capable of and if afterwards she gets the power up i would have been fine with it, but to get it right from the start is kinda annoying.

Finally, someone who understands!

Character development in a shounen battle manga isn't always about a sad story or taking right or wrong pats depending on that past, it's also to see that character grow with their powers. Cana's powers are so greatly diverse that I don't understand why Mashima has neglected her own abilities. Then all of a sudden she's getting a power-up and he haven't even seen what she can do properly.

I don't care about whether what she did was morally wrong or just human nature, everybody is different, even though her actions are similar to Laxus, but please show us how she does in a fight.

ghostexiled
April 26, 2011, 11:46 PM
^No one is stating that this "power up" is set in stone.

Meaning this little power she gained could most likely be used once and then she no longer has it.

Otherwise, she is borrowing this power.

She will use it, yes... but I think that her own inexperience will be what causes her to not be able to stand long against Bluenote. Just enough time so that Gildartz can make the day save that is bound to happen now.

I think Cana's issue with her own abilities is that she never really had a mentor to teach her how to fully grasp and understand her own ablilities. Now that she and her father are bound to meet and understand each others feelings... she will have the will, drive and guidance to make maxium use of her skills.

After all... she has the DNA of a God flowing thru her veins... maybe Gildartz just needs to show her how to access it.

*side note... I blame her excessive drinking and depression on the reason why she has not been fighting with the core group more often. I think that she will be a changed person after this arc.

Kuzumikun
April 27, 2011, 12:20 AM
I DID NOT SEE GILDARTS or how ever you spell it and Cana are related. I didn't even see Cana being his daughter! THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RESEMBLANCE whatsoever D:! But that's what is so good about Fairy Tail and Hiro! He pulls loopholes in his work. The Lisana thing who would ever know! And now this! I LOVE THIS! Fairy Dust might just be a buff or something. I was thinking it's like Fairy Law too for those who think it's like Fairy Law.
Cana probably will stumble across Bluenote and help them with the help of Wendy's offense/defense/speed buffs, Lucy's help and Natsu's help. As for the rest of the people they got it in the bag, they don't need Cana's help.
What i would like to see though is Laxus help too, but i don't think him nor Gildarts are going to come to the island.

MrEspel
April 27, 2011, 01:27 AM
Is cool now that Cana gets a power up, I never saw her as a strong mage but now it looks like she is gonna kick ass. I agree that she doesn't have any psychical resemblance from Gildartz but it seems she inherited Gildartz carelessness lol.

I can see fans who paired them together: 0_0 OMG WTF, and some will be: meh

LoS
April 27, 2011, 01:40 AM
So I read over this thread, and I must say where the heck were all these members the past few months? Seems either this chapter coinciding with a long delay by mangastream caused more members to post more or there were new additions.

Anyway, I really want to censor myself and reserve my judgment till the arc is concluded. Because, albeit I am disappointed, I had lowered my optimism and rightfully expected something along these lines, not necessarily the pairing of the paternal figure himself, but something along these lines.

I keep seeing people trying to persuade others into seeing their view on how Cana's reaction is very human and well done, granted the writing itself is very well done; although, the story itself leaves a bit to be desired that is another point. Back to my train of thought... Persuading others about the human reaction. Not once in this thread did someone bring up the idea of Cana being happy or even jubilant about her father. People keep saying how its hard to live up to him and all this, well in the real world plenty of children admire their parents and even go on to brag about them. This could have very easily have been the case, just opening of the lips a teeney tiny bit and saying 3 little words would have sufficed.

I won't even get into the intricacies of the battle pairings and the outcomes, the lame power ups we all saw coming, and the utterly horrid chance for redemption. All I know is that Hades will make off with Zeref but not wipe out Fairy Tail. It has been the case for a while now, and I still see no indication to think otherwise. I am not necessarily happy with this route, but it is almost certainly what will happen so I might as well start coping with it now.

It is quite humorous how Cana only notices the comical card of Lucy in trouble despite her run in with Cain/Urtear. Not nearly as humorous/lame as the Fairy Glitter though. There just so happens to be a magic which exists that could somehow redeem Cana, allowing her to play a support role even for her spurned guild members. :rolleyes;

(It is getting extremely obnoxious of Natsu to blurt out when he is confronted by such oppressive forces though.) Random thought yes, but something that has been not worth the screen time. We get it alreadyyyyyy

The only thing this chapter was good for in my opinion is that this ensures we all finally get to see more of Gildartz(meaning from here on out, as in future arcs). Well, we knew he would make his rounds given that Makarov wont be there forever, and Fairy Tail will at somepoint confront Raven Tail led by Gildartz's nemisis, Ivan.

What I do find funny is that so many people flat out accept Cana-Gildartz family ties, I mean it can't only be me who is baffled Mashima frustrated us all to no end with Cana's panels these past 10+ chapters of horrible screentime and now we have to just let it go and accept this, well I can't be the only one can I?

Oh another thing, for everyone going about typing out against the people negatively criticizing a chapter, it is in their right. This chapter answered some questions but there are still gargantuan holes some of which further developed or arose from this very same chapter. It was certainly not the prettiest work around. The good news though, is that we are finally back on track with no side stories and only the conclusion lies ahead. This arc can finally be over. It is sad of me to wish it so, but that is just how little it lived up to the potential.

But like I said earlier on, I will reserve judgment till the denouement. At that stage who knows, maybe Mashima will answer some questions, introduce and answer some important mysteries, or just make the future storyline interesting. Because, quite frankly we have yet to have some outlook on the overall series other than assuming Zeref and Dragons will play some role, and that is literally all we have had to go on for the future storylines.

RaveDragon
April 27, 2011, 01:58 AM
So I read over this thread, and I must say where the heck were all these members the past few months? Seems either this chapter coinciding with a long delay by mangastream caused more members to post more or there were new additions.

Anyway, I really want to censor myself and reserve my judgment till the arc is concluded. Because, albeit I am disappointed, I had lowered my optimism and rightfully expected something along these lines, not necessarily the pairing of the paternal figure himself, but something along these lines.

I keep seeing people trying to persuade others into seeing their view on how Cana's reaction is very human and well done, granted the writing itself is very well done; although, the story itself leaves a bit to be desired that is another point. Back to my train of thought... Persuading others about the human reaction. Not once in this thread did someone bring up the idea of Cana being happy or even jubilant about her father. People keep saying how its hard to live up to him and all this, well in the real world plenty of children admire their parents and even go on to brag about them. This could have very easily have been the case, just opening of the lips a teeney tiny bit and saying 3 little words would have sufficed.

I won't even get into the intricacies of the battle pairings and the outcomes, the lame power ups we all saw coming, and the utterly horrid chance for redemption. All I know is that Hades will make off with Zeref but not wipe out Fairy Tail. It has been the case for a while now, and I still see no indication to think otherwise. I am not necessarily happy with this route, but it is almost certainly what will happen so I might as well start coping with it now.

It is quite humorous how Cana only now sees the comical side of Lucy in trouble despite her run in with Cain/Urtear. Not nearly as humorous/lame as the Fairy Glitter though. There just so happens to be a magic which exists that could somehow redeem Cana, allowing her to play a support role even for her spurned guild members.

It is getting extremely obnoxious of Natsu to blurt out when he is confronted by such oppressive forces though.

The only thing this chapter was good for in my opinion is that this ensures we all finally get to see more of Gildartz. Well, we knew he would make his rounds given that Makarov wont be there forever, and Fairy Tail will at somepoint confront Raven Tail led by Gildartz's nemisis, Ivan.

What I do find funny is that so many people flat out accept Cana-Gildartz family ties, despite this and knowing who her father is still doesn't make it any better people.

Oh another thing, for everyone going about typing out against the people negatively criticizing a chapter, it is in their right. This chapter answered some questions but still have gargantuan holes. It was certainly not the prettiest work around. The good news though, is that we are finally back on track with no side stories and only the conclusion lies ahead. This arc can finally be over. It is sad of me to wish it so, but that is just how little it lived up to the potential.

But like I said earlier on, I will reserve judgment till the denouement. At that stage who knows, maybe Mashima will answer some questions, introduce and answer some important mysteries, or just make the future storyline interesting. Because, quite frankly we have yet to have some outlook on the overall series other than assuming Zeref and Dragons will play some role, and that is literally all we have had to go on for the future storylines.

haha well I'm new dont know about the rest xp
its not knowing who her daddy is its rather how a poor 6 year old kid reacted to who Gildartz was that we accepted xD
as for explanations i hope they'll come but i think not in this arc but the coming one
before saying lame why dont you wait to see what fairy glitter is?


I DID NOT SEE GILDARTS or how ever you spell it and Cana are related. I didn't even see Cana being his daughter! THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RESEMBLANCE whatsoever D:!
yes they bear not resemblence but Lucy doesnt really look like her dada except they're both blond in fact she's he mums clone so maybe cana is the same triggering some memory of Gil finally!


Something tells me that Zeref is also a dragon slayer, of the one who defeated Gildartz
its veeeeeeeeeeery possible uless he's something worse but he does have the fangs and his magic may be from the black dragon Gil encountered

Shiro Tsuki
April 27, 2011, 03:33 AM
0O
Seriously - Can we move past Cana and her whole story!?
According to the laws of Fairy Tail - She has been REDEEMED! CASE DISMISSED!...
People don't put on their arguments - they just post that they'll stop reading the manga because this happened or that did not happen >.<...
Its like acting similarly to a kid! I don't like it - I stop playing -_-

What comes next is more interesting!
Seriously - waiting for two weeks is no fun...:(
I am eager to know what this fairy glitter is about - I have a gut feeling Erza v Azuma will be overshadowed by the main fight with B.note...(which is a pity)
Now we know for sure - Gil will come back! Some huge action in process -
This arc is very interesting - You just don't know who'll drop in - who will fight!
New characters - So many plots - New, interesting powers - Old rusty characters getting to play a part...
same ol FT :D
Personally - Its the best arc I read after the Laxus v Guild arc!

matzik1212
April 27, 2011, 03:44 AM
anyway i'm positive that cana won't do much in this battle.....i mean really i think it would be pretty lame to make her triumph where many other mages of FT couldn't stand a chance... :darn
in the end gildartz will show up and save the day at least i think bluenote deserves to lose against an amazing mage and not a 3rd rate one :amuse

Lee-tyme7
April 27, 2011, 04:44 AM
I have a question about this page: http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/3 what are those circle thing above Cana? Are those rain ripples? Is the Light from Mavis grave shielding that area from the rain? If it is then might Fairy glitter be a defensive magic very much opposite of Fairy Law which is an offensive magic.
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the translation incorrect or does Fairy Glitter sound a little off to my ear? I think it should of been Fairy Dust considering glitter is very similar to dust.
I really like the cover page of Happy and Charles as human/cats btw just awsome. :D

ghostexiled
April 27, 2011, 10:13 AM
@LoS - (not picking on you :p) as far as I am concerned, people having a good or bad opinion about the chapter is no bother. You can dislike it... as long as you can express in a constructive fashion why it didn't work for you.

The issue (I have) is people expressing how much they HATE Cana and her development and chalking it up to some screw up on Mashima's part. It seems when we focus too much on a main character we get hate, we focus on a side character... we get hate.

Then we have the people that are here every chapter since around the Wendy introduction arc, doing nothing but talking about how bad this series is or has gotten.

I say to those members that read this series or any other they seem to be so unhappy with, stop torturing yourself and the other members with your extreme dissatisfaction(s) with what you are reading.

Again this is not to be confused with just being disappointed with an outcome or situation... those opinions add to the discussion. But the pure hate and unhappiness of the series and where it is going needs to stop.

Sure no one can weave a golden tale every arc... but we all know what kinda ride FT is and can guess how it will continue.

It seems that people want this series to be more complicated with depth and for it to be something its not. But when an element of something like that actually does enter the fray... we get confusion and hate.

Bottom line is Mashima has the goal to flesh out his characters that reside in the Fairy Tail Guild. But all I am hearing (lately) is how it should just focus on the God of mages, Gildartz. Screw any of the lesser known.

But isn't revealing Cana as his daughter part of Gildartz's depth and character? :)

Anyway... I believe I am spinning wheels here. So I will stop with my long posts. :p

ca12nag3
April 27, 2011, 10:38 AM
if you take Jelals story he killed people and yet they wanted to take him back with them.

Or how Laxus wrecked the town and threatend to kill the inhabitants with his orbs (if erza didnt take m out with help lots of people would have died).

Gajeel was more or less out of control and beat up Lucy and threatend to even kill her. and he crusified shadow gear.

Cana just gets a bit selfish and dumps lucy behind, she even starts crying over what she did and Mavis recognizes her heart and grants her the power to protect her guild.

All those other characters did things way more seriously bad and yet brush that aside.

btw:

Only Jelal has a excuse since he was posessed, but the other 2 Laxus and Gajeel knew what they did was bad.

swordsaintscoot
April 27, 2011, 10:48 AM
laxus had good intentions, the lachryma was a mistake on his part really. the failed fairy law is evidence that he never viewed fairy tail as enemies.

gajeel on the other hand caught got up in a bad ground, he was manipulated (while not to the same extent as gajeel) and all around just had it tough. He went through the same crap as natsu but didnt find a good guild to start his 'human' life. It's really hard to not sympathise.

Cana had NO manipulation or good intentions. It was selfish and all about being noticed by her father. Canas 'good intentions' revolved around herself, and she did everything within her right mind.

thats how i see it, I liked cana before this arc. but now i see why she's an alco. such a bitch and a pathetic excuse of a woman.

ca12nag3
April 27, 2011, 10:51 AM
Oh and talking about upgrades/rewards/punishments.

Erza together with team Natsu saved everyone from Lulaby yet was tossed in the slammer.
Jelal was posessed yet they toss him in the slammer,
Laxus who together with his team wrecked the city threatend to kill the citizens. Yet only he is punished by guild exile?
Juvia who together with Sol kidnapped Lucy and openly assaulted a guild wich is against the law goes unpunised and joins the guild.
Gajeel seriously injured 3 mages and nailed them to a tree and beats up Lucy threatening to kill her goes out free and gets to join the guild.

Yet Cana who only abandones her comrads for selfish reasons and turns around (ok she gets a superspell). And now this is a bad thing?

You trolling?
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laxus had good intentions, the lachryma was a mistake on his part really. the failed fairy law is evidence that he never viewed fairy tail as enemies.

gajeel on the other hand caught got up in a bad ground, he was manipulated (while not to the same extent as gajeel) and all around just had it tough. He went through the same crap as natsu but didnt find a good guild to start his 'human' life. It's really hard to not sympathise.

Cana had NO manipulation or good intentions. It was selfish and all about being noticed by her father. Canas 'good intentions' revolved around herself, and she did everything within her right mind.

thats how i see it, I liked cana before this arc. but now i see why she's an alco. such a bitch and a pathetic excuse of a woman.

Laxus making those orbs that would kill every regular human is a good intention ? Where does it say its a good intention? He wants a strong guild cause of his ego, he doesnt want to come over as weak. Granted he prolly learned his lesson now but your wrong.

Gajeel being manipulated? He did it because he wanted to and even in the *semi-flashback* with Makarov he didnt realy feel sorry or w/e. Makarov simply didnt want a youth to go bad so he took him in.
Now Gajeel is trying his best for Levi to do w/e he can. But seriously manipulated? What are you reading?

Im not saying these things cause i hate these characters in the contrary.

Gajeel and Laxus are 2 of my more favorite characters cause of their imperfection. I love that they are like this, Same as i like Vegeta in DB or Tyki Mik in DGM. Just as long as it doesnt get cheesy. Wich in FT definitly isnt the case.

However Cana is a girl and 1 with a troubled past alone since 6 years old and not cause shes a orphan but cause her dad doesnt recognize her or is afraid to aproach her.
If he didnt know, he could have looked deeper into this childs case, specialy since everyone knows the details of Natsu,Gray,Erza but nobody ever asked Cana who she is and who her parents are? There is no indication she lied.
If Gildarts did know Cana was his then its soley his blaim, due to the fact that you cant expect a 6 year old that lost her mother to just step up and talk to you (her dad who is a stranger).

Ero-Sanji
April 27, 2011, 11:00 AM
What I do find funny is that so many people flat out accept Cana-Gildartz family ties, I mean it can't only be me who is baffled Mashima frustrated us all to no end with Cana's panels these past 10+ chapters of horrible screentime and now we have to just let it go and accept this, well I can't be the only one can I?

No, you're not the only one but I find this better than a completely new character. It further take Gildartz more in to the guild and it also really explains how much he was absent. Further more it gives the guild a more of a family and generation filled feeling that I pretty much enjoy and accept. However, it wasn't that much of an "OMG!" moment to be honest.

Even though the Cana panels was a bit annoying, repetitive and misplaced, some times, they were pushing(at least me) to focus more on the chapters to come. How boring it then was doesn't really matters at the moment since Mashima did it he kept most of us here curious to see what the future might bring.


But like I said earlier on, I will reserve judgment till the denouement. At that stage who knows, maybe Mashima will answer some questions, introduce and answer some important mysteries, or just make the future storyline interesting. Because, quite frankly we have yet to have some outlook on the overall series other than assuming Zeref and Dragons will play some role, and that is literally all we have had to go on for the future storylines.

Actually, we have two or rather three more things than just Zeref and the dragons. First off we have the Dreyar dynasty and their internal disputes to follow and that possibly leads into two things, the change of an era, following the new leader, and also the rivalry between Laxus and Gildartz. The next part also concerns the fate of Fairy tail, namely, the new Magic Council and the fate of Gérard. Lastly the whole mystery surrounding the stellar spirits, Lucy is the main character and therefore her part and destiny will most definitely play a big role.

Overall I sense that Mashima has a good plan and many things to sort out and weave into the story.

matzik1212
April 27, 2011, 12:37 PM
if you take Jelals story he killed people and yet they wanted to take him back with them.

Or how Laxus wrecked the town and threatend to kill the inhabitants with his orbs (if erza didnt take m out with help lots of people would have died).

Gajeel was more or less out of control and beat up Lucy and threatend to even kill her. and he crusified shadow gear.

Cana just gets a bit selfish and dumps lucy behind, she even starts crying over what she did and Mavis recognizes her heart and grants her the power to protect her guild.

All those other characters did things way more seriously bad and yet brush that aside.

btw:

Only Jelal has a excuse since he was posessed, but the other 2 Laxus and Gajeel knew what they did was bad.

yes i agree with you about gajeel and laxus that they were really bad and did a lot of harm to fairy tail but at least they were strong and did their job as a "bad character" :) ....and now what we have here a lousy excuse of a mage who tried her whole life to become someone worth for gildartz to recognize and failed lamentably ....what i'm pissed of is the fact that she doesn't deserve that privilege at all and to me it would be pretty stupid if she ends up saving the day with fairy glitter or not
and i don't care if now she regrets what she did...let's not forget that her selfishness almost killed lucy who didn't deserve to be dumped like that considering the fact that thanks to her cana found mavis's grave :darn

Caster Pheonix
April 27, 2011, 01:16 PM
Watched Fairy Tail anime 76. Gildarts was 'playing' the father role with Natsu to good effect, so where was his fathe role with Can......no wait this is an asspull isn't it?

ghostexiled
April 27, 2011, 01:19 PM
How is it an asspull if Gildartz has no idea that Cana is his daughter? :blink

Natsu has always looked up to the strong members of the Guild... so he sought Gildartz out.

Where Cana has had issues with that...

btw, please use this thread to discuss manga related topics.

Use the anime thread for anime related topics.

Thanks!

ca12nag3
April 27, 2011, 02:20 PM
The entire part of Gildarts playing dad with Natsu and Lisanna is mostly irelevant. In the manga there is no sign of this happening.
However i do believe he is the kind typ of guy hes portrait as.

Im still sticking with Cana being as she is and that its no lame excuse. If youve never been in such hard situations you cant understand how it can warp the mind. Especialy on such a young age as a 6 year old.

If its lame then Laxus turning on his nakama and all of the towns people is just as lame. He could have killed someone. Just like some of you say Lucy could have died vs Kain. So without condemning Laxus as well you cant hold up your claim Cana is a *Lame* character.

Im just trying to show that Mashima during the entire story always uses these plot lines, and uses extra drama and overexagurates the feelings these characters have to make his view come across.
Its still briliant writers work. Matter of fact he wouldnt have been serializing and have more anime episodes added if it wasnt that good. So i dont see how anyone can just say after a few chapters that Cana is a lame character.

MyuuMyuu
April 27, 2011, 02:22 PM
I hope to see Cana get some cool powerup. Lots of people says it would be lame if she did - i dont think so. Now we know she is Gil's daughter - i mean, she is related to one of the strongest mages ever. She has it in the blod :D
i dont really get why people hate cana so much.. she didnt really do anything that bad, did she..? i mean, there are other characters who been worse.. and noone seems to hate them for it.

ghostexiled
April 27, 2011, 02:46 PM
The issue I think I am understanding about Cana... is the way she was introduced.

Where these past wrong doers (Laxus, Gazille and Juvia) where introduced from the get go as these strong fighters.

Cana was introduced as the Guild's drunk that dabbled in card magic... so people went ahead and assumed that she would NEVER be anything more than that.

So when it came time that she was getting screen time... people started to gripe at the idea of it.

"Why go into this character that is worthless of the attention she is getting..."

So when (and if) the time comes that Mashima decides to give Jet, Droy, Alzack, Bisca or any other lesser known members (http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fairy_Tail_members) some worth... I predict that we will go through this whole debate again. :oh

Razh
April 27, 2011, 03:01 PM
I wonder when Cana actually started to have fun with booze. If it started early enough, she might be delusional about who her father actually is. Lol.

But seriously, while Gildartz was introduced as a kinda goofy character, forgetting to dodge some random houses and forgetting about your daughter are 2 different things. Something is off with all that.

But she seems sure Gildartz is her dad, so, if she doesn't suffer from alcohol induced mental illness, it could be as simple as - Gildartz just doesn't know. It sounds retarded even to me, but it's not the dumbest thing that I've seen in FT.

ca12nag3
April 27, 2011, 03:28 PM
If you look at the bottom shot of page 9 (http://www.goodmanga.net/fairy_tail/chapter/232/9) shes alone,page 10 (http://www.goodmanga.net/fairy_tail/chapter/232/10) shes lonely Grey and Natsu happily rushing by, page 17 (http://www.goodmanga.net/fairy_tail/chapter/232/17) shes shown waving at Gray but he doesnt look interested, then shes behind Erza and Mira who tbh look anoyed by her presence also Natsu gets attention from Laxus.

Doesnt it stand out that she actualy has no relatives/close friends. Mirajane has her brother. Erza hangs out with Natsu and Gray, shes the only one whos always alone.

White Silver King
April 27, 2011, 03:35 PM
So when (and if) the time comes that Mashima decides to give Jet, Droy, Alzack, Bisca or any other lesser known members some worth... I predict that we will go through this whole debate again.

I don't think they'll get anything more than they already have. Cana has always been one of, if not the, most important minor characters. She's been in this weird "minorly major character" situation almost the entire manga and now she's coming into her own. I'd say she's like Kabuto from Naruto - everyone thought he'd be a nobody when introduced and now he's a main character. Jet, droy, etc have always been just very minor characters with no real character development at all (being a drunk is more than we've ever seen from Jet or Droy).

MazzinKaizer
April 27, 2011, 04:11 PM
Liked the little revelation about Gildartz and Cana. Blue is a badass as expected and the ending of the chapter was total Bull Shit. WTF kind of power up is that?

bruticus171
April 27, 2011, 07:17 PM
I think bluenote can use gravity as he main magic power. The part I hate about this chapter is the reader does not get to see the tattoo that is on Bluenote's left forearm. That tattoo could be a secret power that he had found or stole that is at the same level as fairy glitter. On another topic fairy law is not one of the three great fairies magical three. Bluenote say that the one of the great fairy magic powers is WRITTEN in FAIRY LAW. It is never stated that fairy law is one of the three, and if it did please post up where it does in the comic. So, from what I stated above that would mean that there are two other magical powers rather than one more.

Great chapter, and hope to see other fights before the finale with Cana and Bluenote.

Schabrak
April 28, 2011, 03:20 AM
@bruticus: comic.... ?:(

Those having accepted Natsus misterious powerups in the past arcs should shut their traps this time too. Nowhere was it written that this power will be permanent. Shouldn't we just be happy that we're able to see another powerful FT guild master magic?

Some may have forgotten already, but I did appreceate Mashima give every single FT member a cover page with information, more info on secondary characters than we get in most other manga.

edit: I hate mobile phones, but loving them for lasting so long in uni. Wish I had something to drink though. g

Razh
April 28, 2011, 03:33 AM
It is never stated that fairy law is one of the three, and if it did please post up where it does in the comic. So, from what I stated above that would mean that there are two other magical powers rather than one more.

Oh come on, it doesn't need to be stated anywhere. It's a special magic only strongest mages of Fairy Tail can do, it affects enemies of the user, just like Fairy Glitter does, and it has the name of the guild in it, just like Fairy Glitter. Don't know what else you need to figure out Fairy Law is one of the 3.

Oh yeah, why wouldn't there be 3 super strong magics along the already overpowering Fairy Law? Face it, we know 2 of them now. And the third one is probably Fairy Laser!!! :p
Btw, "It's written about within Fairy Law" sounds like a faulty translation to me. Unless he means some Fairy Tail book rather than a spell itself.

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chqra terw

You been drinking? :p

RaveDragon
April 28, 2011, 08:01 AM
Liked the little revelation about Gildartz and Cana. Blue is a badass as expected and the ending of the chapter was total Bull Shit. WTF kind of power up is that?

why not? wait and see it before judging and well its a story on mages its possible in [that world to get power ups like that use your imagination


The issue I think I am understanding about Cana... is the way she was introduced.

Where these past wrong doers (Laxus, Gazille and Juvia) where introduced from the get go as these strong fighters.

Cana was introduced as the Guild's drunk that dabbled in card magic... so people went ahead and assumed that she would NEVER be anything more than that.

So when it came time that she was getting screen time... people started to gripe at the idea of it.

"Why go into this character that is worthless of the attention she is getting..."

So when (and if) the time comes that Mashima decides to give Jet, Droy, Alzack, Bisca or any other lesser known members some worth... I predict that we will go through this whole debate again.
Yesterday 07:22 PM

yep i think so too but still Cana was one of the reliable characters like Mira and Elfman but not as much but she was one who brought curiosity out of you and a fun one too (remember the omake where she read Lucy's future?) im glad Mashima gave her a chance and she's been given a really cool story where you can relate in a way. It's like the character really come alive in this manga, Natsu looking for his dad, lucy's family problems and loss of a parent, Cana low self esteem yet hard working, Mira and Elfman loss and guilt etc

bittman
April 28, 2011, 09:38 AM
At least Cana didn't get her character development shafted like Mira. Mashima sets up some great tragic past for Mira and Elfman, and then Lisanna comes back and Mira's character development totals 1 chapter =/

Actually don't mind me, I still have some hopes Mira gets character development, but since Lisanna's return it's all just apparantly blown over.

Regarding Cana: does anyone think that perhaps Cana is a good Guild Master Candadite? Sure, she's definitely weaker than half of the fan favourites, but I wouldn't be surprised if she potentially inherits it should Fairy Tail ever timeskip to the future near the end. For the record, I believe Marakov will stay Guild Master with maybe a 10% chance Gildhartz gets it. Don't buy into the Luxus GM crowd at all.

Anyway: for a change of conversation away from Cana -> what are people's theories on Gray Urtear? Are they going to kung-fu, or is Gray about to be mindfucked into something? And even then, what is Urtear after? If it's revenge, no need to sop it up. If anything, Urtear is more confusing than Cana had been all arc long.

Newkerzy
April 28, 2011, 09:56 AM
^No one is stating that this "power up" is set in stone.

Meaning this little power she gained could most likely be used once and then she no longer has it.

Otherwise, she is borrowing this power.

She will use it, yes... but I think that her own inexperience will be what causes her to not be able to stand long against Bluenote. Just enough time so that Gildartz can make the day save that is bound to happen now.

I think Cana's issue with her own abilities is that she never really had a mentor to teach her how to fully grasp and understand her own ablilities. Now that she and her father are bound to meet and understand each others feelings... she will have the will, drive and guidance to make maxium use of her skills.

After all... she has the DNA of a God flowing thru her veins... maybe Gildartz just needs to show her how to access it.

*side note... I blame her excessive drinking and depression on the reason why she has not been fighting with the core group more often. I think that she will be a changed person after this arc.

Yup, Cana getting fairy glitter is definitely not improbable. Gildartz's magic, is in a way similar to fairy law. And Fairy Glitter is something sort of the secret to Fairy Law. As the daughter of Gildartz's it's not totally out of left field for her to gain Fairy Glitter. I predict she'll be able to beat Bluenote but then Hades steps in for the kill so she won't be a hindrance to their plans. And at that moment when Hades arrives, Gildartz steps in and says "Lay a hand on my daughter and I'll Kill you"

ca12nag3
April 28, 2011, 11:49 AM
Yup, Cana getting fairy glitter is definitely not improbable. Gildartz's magic, is in a way similar to fairy law. And Fairy Glitter is something sort of the secret to Fairy Law. As the daughter of Gildartz's it's not totally out of left field for her to gain Fairy Glitter. I predict she'll be able to beat Bluenote but then Hades steps in for the kill so she won't be a hindrance to their plans. And at that moment when Hades arrives, Gildartz steps in and says "Lay a hand on my daughter and I'll Kill you"

I dont think shes going to defeat Bluenote, hes probably way more cunning and has at least double the battleexperience. Also hes more of Gildarts caliber (or so hes portrait).

So what i expect is Cana to show up and battle him and using Fairy Glitter and that will peak his interest and basicaly ignore the other mages and focus soley on Cana.
Then shes going to get owned not cause she doesnt have the power to but lacks the confidence and the experience to deal with a strong oponent.
When shes about to get killed and Fairy Glitter taken from her her confidence will drop to the bottom and she will be giving up.
Bluenote will be blabering on about her being weak and unworthy of having such a elite spell bestowed upon her.

Then you got 2 options for how to solve both the issue of Canas lack of selfconfidence and how to take out Bluenote.

-Natsu&co. back her up and you get the nakama combo and they defeat Bluenote together, after that Cana gets cheared up and plans to tell her dad everything.

-Gildarts himself shows up and takes out Bluenote together with his daughter and tells her she doesnt have to be strong and he loves her regardless etc etc.

< in this case it kinda requirs Gildarts to actualy know that shes his daughter without being told.
<Unless Bluenote knows way more about Gildarts and his lover/wife maybe recognise Cana in some sense and lets the secret slip while Gildarts is present.
< third option is Cana in dispear talks about Gildarts and being unworthy of being his daughter and then Gildarts steps in.

So thats about it i guess for Cana vs Bluenote option.
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For Gray and Ultear its realy unsure whats going to happen cause Gray doesnt buy the entire Ul's will thing.
Ultear does seem convincing and i dont think shes lieing. (now dont trip over this yet).
She cant very well be telling the truth cause so far we know nothing of Ul, she was living on her own with 2 pupils and we only hear about Ul should settle down from the saleslady. Other then that we know absolutely nothing of Ul.

On the other hand Ultear could have been mislead since she must have been young when her parents split up (or actualy her mother got dumped as it seems).

Final option is that Ultear is actualy on the good side/ more or less cant forget what she did at the tower aiding Jelal wich was a most cruel thing. Her being dedicated in saving the world by any means possible, or even use Zeref for saving Ul perhaps?

Who knows Ultear has a hidden motive for capturing Zeref and this motive coincides with what Gray might want.
In any case she says her and Gray are actualy allies so either it has to do with Ul or with saving the world.

miramira
April 28, 2011, 02:05 PM
For all we know Cana won't use much of this Fairy Glitter magic. :P

I mean, she lacks confidence right... I think a better way for her to gain that is if she ended up using this Fairy Glitter not more than once (for story's sake) but end up winning using her own magic :) Or if she don't use this Fairy Glitter as is(not raw, not relying fully on it) but weave her own magic with it. .. I guess that would be impressive :}

wooticus
April 28, 2011, 02:08 PM
The issue I think I am understanding about Cana... is the way she was introduced.

Where these past wrong doers (Laxus, Gazille and Juvia) where introduced from the get go as these strong fighters.

Cana was introduced as the Guild's drunk that dabbled in card magic... so people went ahead and assumed that she would NEVER be anything more than that.

So when it came time that she was getting screen time... people started to gripe at the idea of it.

"Why go into this character that is worthless of the attention she is getting..."

So when (and if) the time comes that Mashima decides to give Jet, Droy, Alzack, Bisca or any other lesser known members (http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fairy_Tail_members) some worth... I predict that we will go through this whole debate again. :oh

i kind of stayed out of the cana discussion yet, i absolutely agree with you that being the issue about cana. there was a small discussion like that when levy was invited to s-class exam. But cana got even less screentime yet. she had one real fight against freed and she got owned badly.
it sounds harsh, but she hasn't proved useful in any way, she wasn't able to track mystogan back then in phantom arc.
with so much people hyped as super strong in the guild, everybody assumed she is just one of the medium mages.. then it was made clear that she was in s-class trial 4 times, which was hardly understandable. and then she somehow betrayed her guildmates which led to all this bashing. but well, it's just her magic being support / allround type, not pure strength. she just hasn't got the chance to shine. and among support magic levy seems to be quite stronger, or let's talk about archive-magic..

i just hope she will play a major role ine the future and become s-class / stays really strong! because it would totally suck if she fallls back to booze after this arc

miramira
April 28, 2011, 02:08 PM
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Re: Fairy Glitter
I think of it like this:
Fairy Glitter = the name of the magic itself, or, the basic, raw magic, the "category"..
Fairy Law = the improved/customized magic using Fairy Glitter. It's like, Fairy Glitter mastered and personalized by Makarov (and later adapted by Laxus)
...example: Erza's magic= The Knight, but from it she can do: Heaven's Wheel, Flame Emperor, Flight armor magics. I think it's something like that.
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quoting myself just to explain why I used "raw" xDD

ca12nag3
April 28, 2011, 03:21 PM
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Re: Fairy Glitter
I think of it like this:
Fairy Glitter = the name of the magic itself, or, the basic, raw magic, the "category"..
Fairy Law = the improved/customized magic using Fairy Glitter. It's like, Fairy Glitter mastered and personalized by Makarov (and later adapted by Laxus)
...example: Erza's magic= The Knight, but from it she can do: Heaven's Wheel, Flame Emperor, Flight armor magics. I think it's something like that.
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quoting myself just to explain why I used "raw" xDD

Hmm i dunno why people even think Fairy Glitter is some kinda flare gun 1 shot lol.

Seriously the only 1 shot magic used is the one Lucy used in the oracion seis arc.

Fairy Glitter might tbh just be a defencive spell warding against all that you see as the enemy. But like all uberspells it prolly has a huge disadvantage as well so i dont see it as the winning move.

Its just like Iced shell,Fairy Law and Grimoir Law they all are super moves but have mayor disadvantages as well.

So as much as it is a hyped spell it wont be the winning move. (i seem to keep repeating it lol but its just so true).

RaveDragon
April 29, 2011, 03:49 AM
i was thinking could fairy glitter be a summoning technique :/ like it summons the most appropriate fighter (and strongest) to ward of the enemies, maybe it summons mages of olden times who have gone with glittery effects?

its a theory or rather an crazy idea XD
but i'm pretty sure its not an offensive spell haha
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i kind of stayed out of the cana discussion yet, i absolutely agree with you that being the issue about cana. there was a small discussion like that when levy was invited to s-class exam. But cana got even less screentime yet. she had one real fight against freed and she got owned badly.
it sounds harsh, but she hasn't proved useful in any way, she wasn't able to track mystogan back then in phantom arc.
with so much people hyped as super strong in the guild, everybody assumed she is just one of the medium mages.. then it was made clear that she was in s-class trial 4 times, which was hardly understandable. and then she somehow betrayed her guildmates which led to all this bashing. but well, it's just her magic being support / allround type, not pure strength. she just hasn't got the chance to shine. and among support magic levy seems to be quite stronger, or let's talk about archive-magic..

i just hope she will play a major role ine the future and become s-class / stays really strong! because it would totally suck if she falls back to booze after this arc

dont forget though that comparing her to natsu erza and all hyper powered people is going to get you to this conclusions, even though she failed in helping she kept calm, composed and lead fairy tail in the phantom arc pretty well no? her ideas were pretty good but they just didnt work, i mean they were standing their ground until jose came in, for an alcoholic, 18 year old filled with such grief she tried her best, for a kid (yes 18 is still a kid or rather a trainee adult one could say)

i hope everything will go well for her too ^^

i think she'll keep drinking after this but will be more helpful 9you know keep it as a running gag)

Newkerzy
April 29, 2011, 11:28 PM
I dont think shes going to defeat Bluenote, hes probably way more cunning and has at least double the battleexperience. Also hes more of Gildarts caliber (or so hes portrait).

So what i expect is Cana to show up and battle him and using Fairy Glitter and that will peak his interest and basicaly ignore the other mages and focus soley on Cana.
Then shes going to get owned not cause she doesnt have the power to but lacks the confidence and the experience to deal with a strong oponent.
When shes about to get killed and Fairy Glitter taken from her her confidence will drop to the bottom and she will be giving up.
Bluenote will be blabering on about her being weak and unworthy of having such a elite spell bestowed upon her.

Then you got 2 options for how to solve both the issue of Canas lack of selfconfidence and how to take out Bluenote.

-Natsu&co. back her up and you get the nakama combo and they defeat Bluenote together, after that Cana gets cheared up and plans to tell her dad everything.

-Gildarts himself shows up and takes out Bluenote together with his daughter and tells her she doesnt have to be strong and he loves her regardless etc etc.

< in this case it kinda requirs Gildarts to actualy know that shes his daughter without being told.
<Unless Bluenote knows way more about Gildarts and his lover/wife maybe recognise Cana in some sense and lets the secret slip while Gildarts is present.
< third option is Cana in dispear talks about Gildarts and being unworthy of being his daughter and then Gildarts steps in.

So thats about it i guess for Cana vs Bluenote option.



I think Gildartz does know she is his daughter. It's highly likely that during his travels, he stopped by Cana's hometown and found out the truth but couldn't bear to embrace her because he was the one who left her mother and Cana herself. He probably feels ashamed as a father. But anyways I do see Gildartz making a badass entrance and do the "don't touch my little girl" trope.

saya1987
April 30, 2011, 01:55 AM
Have you ever wondered where Cana got her surname from?

Unless Cana made up her own surname, Gildarts must be really dumb not to notice the similarity between Cana and his ex. From his pov, though he may not have guessed that Cana is his daughter, he would definitely know that she is his ex's daughter right? Furthermore, in manga, artists tend to draw children with striking resemblance to either the mother or the father.

ca12nag3
April 30, 2011, 06:35 AM
Have you ever wondered where Cana got her surname from?

Unless Cana made up her own surname, Gildarts must be really dumb not to notice the similarity between Cana and his ex. From his pov, though he may not have guessed that Cana is his daughter, he would definitely know that she is his ex's daughter right? Furthermore, in manga, artists tend to draw children with striking resemblance to either the mother or the father.

Most likely it is her mothers surname however we dont even see the little girl mention it. So at first its unlikely he would imediatly know who she is.
Also my bet is on it that he didnt know he had a daughter.

What im thinking is Canas parents broke up either cause her mom couldnt deal with his absence all the time or she didnt wanna keep him from what makes him happy, the magic world.
And she raised Cana on her own never telling him. If Gildarts figured it out lateron i dunno but is likely as well.

saya1987
April 30, 2011, 07:47 AM
Most likely it is her mothers surname however we dont even see the little girl mention it. So at first its unlikely he would imediatly know who she is.
Also my bet is on it that he didnt know he had a daughter.


Yeah, that was exactly my point. He wouldn't have known that Cana is his daughter but surely, he could tell that she is related to his ex?

If Cana didn't make up her surname, it would mean that she took her mother's surname. And Gildarts is pretty dumb if he can't put two and two (striking resemblance to her mum + mum's surname) together and figure out that Cana is his ex's daughter. Of course, he wouldn't have figure out that Cana is his daughter but surely, he would realise that Cana is his ex's daughter. For example, Zoldeo could guess Lucy is Layla's daughter even without knowing her surname.

The above stated point is based on the assumption that Cana looks like her mum because artists tend to draw children with a striking resemblance to their parents.

Anyway, I think Gildarts knows that Cana is his ex's daughter, just that he doesn't know he is the father. I guess he didn't want to pay much attention to her because it hurts him too much to know that he isn't the father.

ca12nag3
April 30, 2011, 08:34 AM
Yeah, that was exactly my point. He wouldn't have known that Cana is his daughter but surely, he could tell that she is related to his ex?

If Cana didn't make up her surname, it would mean that she took her mother's surname. And Gildarts is pretty dumb if he can't put two and two (striking resemblance to her mum + mum's surname) together and figure out that Cana is his ex's daughter. Of course, he wouldn't have figure out that Cana is his daughter but surely, he would realise that Cana is his ex's daughter. For example, Zoldeo could guess Lucy is Layla's daughter even without knowing her surname.

The above stated point is based on the assumption that Cana looks like her mum because artists tend to draw children with a striking resemblance to their parents.

Anyway, I think Gildarts knows that Cana is his ex's daughter, just that he doesn't know he is the father. I guess he didn't want to pay much attention to her because it hurts him too much to know that he isn't the father.

I wouldnt put him in the dumb catagory yet.

Its possible that He and Canas mother broke up 6~ year prior to Cana showing up at the guild. As in she left him before she was born.

He checks out the background of Cana and discovers its his ex that died and Cana is the one that showed up.
Most likely struck with guilt he wouldnt know how to react, and since Cana doesnt dare to speak up the 2 never realy talked to eachother and everyone knows. When time passes and you dont say the things that matter it gets worse and worse. Eventualy its left unsaid.

So basicaly i think both of m know they are father and daughter but neither knows how to aproach eachother.

miramira
April 30, 2011, 12:09 PM
@ca12nag3
...ummm sorry but, I didn't say that it is one shot or an offensive spell or even a winning spell O_O

I only said that maybe it's like a category or "base" magic. Something you derive something else out of.
For ex....Lyon and Gray has different magic, like Ice Make Lance and Ice Make Sword and Ice Make Shield,
but they all fall under "Ice Magic" .. Ice Magic would be like the base magic and you can have your own version of it.

Yes, I also thought it could well be a used for defense instead of offense. =}
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I think we haven't been shown Cana's mother yet?
Just thinking, even if Cana's mother has the same facial features and hair color,
it's possible Cana won't resemble her much if they wore a different type of clothing
(in Cana' case she doesn't wear much XDD) and have different hairstyles..

Or, Gidarts realized later on and just never got around to admit it to Cana....

ILikeSleeping
April 30, 2011, 12:11 PM
Well, Gildartz does travel around quite a bit, it's always possible that he may or may not have knocked up a few girls along the way and forgot about them...It happens. Although Gildartz doesn't seem like a "playa (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=playa)" (Scroll down to #3 if you don't know what it is).

I have no idea what kind of spell fairy glitter is, although its effects will most likely be hax and it will have something to do with its name...Somehow a defensive spell like most people are speculating that it's going to be, is not something I would normally associate with glitter, but that's just me

kkck
April 30, 2011, 01:55 PM
This was most likely already mentioned but I had a thought about the tatoo on bluenotes arm. What if that is another of fairy tail's magics? It would explain why mashima has given such focus (and at the same time not showing all of it) to the tatoo. If this really is the case and bluenote can counter fairy glitter then perhaps it could foreshadow the return of glidarts. Or perhaps the magic will not recognize the gang as an enemy and cana still gets a chance to beat the crap out of him with fairy glitter.

White Silver King
April 30, 2011, 02:03 PM
I wouldnt put him in the dumb catagory yet.

He's destroyed Magnolia town enough times that the people have built it around his walking patterns because he walks into buildings with his magic on and crushes them. Not being able to completely shut off your magic because its so powerful is one thing, but walking into buildings without noticing is pretty stupid. I think the "dumb category" is comfortable place for him lol.

Sollum
April 30, 2011, 04:43 PM
Have you ever wondered where Cana got her surname from?

Unless Cana made up her own surname, Gildarts must be really dumb not to notice the similarity between Cana and his ex. From his pov, though he may not have guessed that Cana is his daughter, he would definitely know that she is his ex's daughter right? Furthermore, in manga, artists tend to draw children with striking resemblance to either the mother or the father.

Oh you know how it is... you go the bar, get a bit drunk, go talk to a lady and the rest is pretty obvious.

And really, it will be quite a surprise if he will remember Cana's mothers name, not to mention her looks.

And please don't tell me this is out of the question, because our dear Mashima uses a lot of sex reference in this manga. *cough* lucy *cough* tits *cough* taking over *cough* this manga *cough*

ca12nag3
April 30, 2011, 04:58 PM
Oh you know how it is... you go the bar, get a bit drunk, go talk to a lady and the rest is pretty obvious.

And really, it will be quite a surprise if he will remember Cana's mothers name, not to mention her looks.

And please don't tell me this is out of the question, because our dear Mashima uses a lot of sex reference in this manga. *cough* lucy *cough* tits *cough* taking over *cough* this manga *cough*

You guys are skipping a few steps i did mention earlier. Its not impossible for him under the right setting to realy know her mothers last name. Also remember Rave here.

Both the Musicas in Rave thought they wernt related, or so they told their friends, in fact they both knew they were related yet didnt tell eachother for some reasons i will not go into unless you realy want to know.
Lateron they reconsile and admit their kinship.

So A little explanation might be he got her mother pregnant yet her mother did not want to stick around him, or she loved him so much she let him go let him do what he wants the most (travel the world and be a active mage). The last one i think is the reason in this story.

Since she send her daughter to Gildarts she prolly didnt hate him. Or well maybe mashima didnt even think that far. lol.
Mages realy live a free life without anything tieing them down, in the story they travel do quests, heck even gildarts went on a 100year quest for 3 years. You cant be a good father and be gone all the time.
So my trail of thought goes to that her mother didnt want to take away Gildarts hapiness and left him when she was with child, and didnt tell him.

Eventualy he might have found out either prior to Cana ariving or when Cana showed up.
But perhaps due to guilt he didnt want to speak up to Cana, i dunno under what conditions her mother died either.

kkck
April 30, 2011, 09:58 PM
I bet gildarts already knows cana is his daughter. Most likely it will turn out to be something him being too ashamed to say anything or he just could not be a good dad.

RaveDragon
May 01, 2011, 05:01 AM
Gildartz cant be that dumb i'm sure he's got something that even he is ashamed off and cant bring himself to reconcile with his daughter for that ^^

we dont really know HIS past so, plus he did interact with Cana and to me they seemed pretty close to tell her good luck for the s-class trail he must have prbably wanted to say something more but like usual in these situations something calls him away and that would be a mission haha
they seemed to have an akward relationship :/ at least it looked like that to me

shuha27
May 01, 2011, 11:43 AM
I was thinking the exact same thing. He knows about his relationsip with Cana but maybe he was just to embarrassed to bring himself to tell her. I really can't wait to see their reunion :)

1337 haxor
May 02, 2011, 02:13 PM
I think that Gildartz was oblivious at first but once he recognized that fact he kept to himself because he knew it meant very much to Cana being able to tell him this by herself.

Probably Cana's mother was some sort of bar tender or something like that who Gildartz constantly found company with, in a certain night he drank beyond the limits and the two of them had sex.

When the next day came Cana's mother found herself guilty of taking advantage of Gildartz's drunkeness to lay of with the man she loved and didn't tell the post-acoholic amnesiatic man that the two had taken their affair to the next step.

If that risked Guildartz dropping his carrer as a mage in order to take care of an unplanned child then Cana's mother had a good reason to keep the secret.

So when Guildartz first met Cana he must have had no idea how to take her declaration.

I mean, the woman he loved had just died and he probably decided to further dive in his job to forget the pain then out of nowhere a small child poped up and said "You are my father".

He certainly didn't took this serious at first given that he was in a hurry but as time went on that statement must have echoed in his mind everytime he saw Cana and similarities between her and her deceased mother showed up.

So he put his mind together and said to himself, that's my daughter huh? How do I tell her how I feel about that?

However, by the time he realized the true he also noticed how hell bent she was on becoming S class to tell him that herself.

In a sense Guildartz noticed that her declaration was a driving force in her growth and that by telling her he knew the truth would be just as bad as if her mother told the true to himself in the first place.

To put it blunt, if Gildartz told her that he knew she was his daughter she would give up on getting stronger only because of his own desire to be with her and that is something he would never forgive himself for.

Since Cana has just received a major power boost and her focus has now changed to protecting her friends he no longer needs to hold the truth from her as she will now be able to move past her promise and become a great mage of her own.

In this sense I think this arc will end with a powered up Cana joining Guildartz on his 100 year quest so that they can make up for the time they spent apart before.

It would be the best way of removing them both from the story until they are needed for a late bigger battler.

As for the rest of the quest this post is not about them but maybe they will go after Laxus or something like that because Makarov is in his dying bed.

LoS
May 03, 2011, 03:42 AM
Gildartz gave up on the quest, Makarov already told the council or whomever to grant the quest to someone else... for what it is worth

Its always hard to detect sarcasm on the interwebz, so I couldn't tell if your post was serious or not...

1337 haxor
May 03, 2011, 07:57 AM
Gildartz gave up on the quest, Makarov already told the council or whomever to grant the quest to someone else... for what it is worth

Its always hard to detect sarcasm on the interwebz, so I couldn't tell if your post was serious or not...

It wasn't for sarcasm but there is a huge difference between getting wasted by a dragon and giving up because of family issues.

I am not talking about Gildartz quest but rather his magic carrer as a whole.

When Cana was conceived Gildartz was at the peak of his youth conquering respect and prestige all around the world.

Having a child of nonmarital precedents coming up suddenly would not only drastically shift his priorities in life but would also damage his image as a whole.

Gildartz needed to be preserved a guilty free mage until his reputation and power were cemented and the child could be assumed his without problem.

But before that happened Cana's mother died and the information about her relation to Gildartz was lost for a long time.

RaveDragon
May 03, 2011, 09:33 AM
Right now only Gildartz can tell as his relationship with Cana's mother and Cana herself so i think he will be coming back now, its a possibility or else Cana decides to tell him when they get back and we get a family reunion ^^

MyuuMyuu
May 03, 2011, 01:34 PM
i also think we see some sweet little family reunion, after they win the fight with hades.. and im pretty sure they will after all everything always ends happy in fairy tail.. i dont exept this arc to be any different. Hiro Mashima already said in one of his comments in a fairy tail volume, that he wanted to create a glad manga with strong friendship (All this nakama-stuff), and not a sad one like his previous work, Rave, where a lot of characters died all the time. (Yeah he wrote "where a lot of character died all the time") so i guess he wont kill any characters.. Fairy Tail is a Fairy Tale.. good endnings. ont exept too much.. just enjoy the story as it now is :tem

RaveDragon
May 04, 2011, 07:54 AM
i also think we see some sweet little family reunion, after they win the fight with hades.. and im pretty sure they will after all everything always ends happy in fairy tail.. i dont exept this arc to be any different. Hiro Mashima already said in one of his comments in a fairy tail volume, that he wanted to create a glad manga with strong friendship (All this nakama-stuff), and not a sad one like his previous work, Rave, where a lot of characters died all the time. (Yeah he wrote "where a lot of character died all the time") so i guess he wont kill any characters.. Fairy Tail is a Fairy Tale.. good endnings. ont exept too much.. just enjoy the story as it now is :tem

True but Mashima will kill characters if need be as seen with Simon (who either wasn't needed anymore or Mashima needed to get Natsu angry) so I'm wondering if he will do this in this arc again :/ I like Makarov so i hope he just retires but it would be cool to see him depart as a great Fairy Tail wizard with pride and an awesome tearful scene!

ca12nag3
May 04, 2011, 07:58 AM
True but Mashima will kill characters if need be as seen with Simon (who either wasn't needed anymore or Mashima needed to get Natsu angry) so I'm wondering if he will do this in this arc again :/ I like Makarov so i hope he just retires but it would be cool to see him depart as a great Fairy Tail wizard with pride and an awesome tearful scene!

I wonder how true to his word he will remain, killing off characters is pretty much a normal thing for most manga. That said i think he will still let a character die here and there but just not as many as he did in Rave. In Rave you got the bittersweet endings of a few characters that i think he will not do in FT. Also Simon was a minor character in Rave he killed off a load of baddies and semi-mains

pyogenes
May 05, 2011, 11:57 AM
Having a child of nonmarital precedents coming up suddenly would not only drastically shift his priorities in life but would also damage his image as a whole.

Gildartz needed to be preserved a guilty free mage until his reputation and power were cemented and the child could be assumed his without problem.

But before that happened Cana's mother died and the information about her relation to Gildartz was lost for a long time.

You're working under the assumption that there is a social stigma for unwed parents. I haven't seen anything in the manga thus far showing that this would be unacceptable in the eyes of the FT world.

On the flip side, we have been shown time and time again that members of FT don't care about your past as long as you are a good person in the present.

It is far more likely given what we've seen that FT would celebrate Gildartz being a father rather than look down on him for it.

ca12nag3
May 05, 2011, 01:38 PM
You're working under the assumption that there is a social stigma for unwed parents. I haven't seen anything in the manga thus far showing that this would be unacceptable in the eyes of the FT world.

On the flip side, we have been shown time and time again that members of FT don't care about your past as long as you are a good person in the present.

It is far more likely given what we've seen that FT would celebrate Gildartz being a father rather than look down on him for it.

I agree FT is a group of people that look at the present and more so the future, so theyll just be realy happy that Cana finaly reconsiled with her father.
Lingering on about the past rarely happens especialy if you look at who usualy is the moodsetter and that is by far Natsu.

He went on a rant about Laxus being his grandson and that he didnt want him exiled, same goes for how he went up front in the atempt to undo the arrest of Jellal. Only Gajeel is not on his friends list but thats prolly cause of the dragonslayer rivalry (yet he doesnt hold a grudge against him).

So I dont see any trouble comming from a reunion.

1337 haxor
May 05, 2011, 11:15 PM
You're working under the assumption that there is a social stigma for unwed parents. I haven't seen anything in the manga thus far showing that this would be unacceptable in the eyes of the FT world.

On the flip side, we have been shown time and time again that members of FT don't care about your past as long as you are a good person in the present.

It is far more likely given what we've seen that FT would celebrate Gildartz being a father rather than look down on him for it.

I don't know exactly how the marital standards of the FT world work, if you think about it we have never been addressed to that point until now.

We know that Makarov had a son and that his son had a son of his own but we were never spoken of their mothers to begin with.

Also take for example Layla, the only mother we know in FT so far, she quit her guild as son a she got pregnant and we don't know wheter she was married before or after quitting her guild.

You guys are working under the assumption of how people in FT would treat the relationships of a member which I agree would never be looked upon negatively between guild members.

However, we forget that a mage's life is no kittens and that society in the FT is quite ill governed (mage council is a bitch) so saying that Gildartz could father a child of an unknow woman without consequences is a little naive.

I am not saying that he would be crucified or any shit like that but knowing how Gildartz is dedicated to those he loves he could have done just as Layla, quitted Fairy Tail to raise his child under his shelter.

Anyway, the point is that Cana's mother wouldn't have hidden their children from Gildartz and public knowledge without a good reason.

I mean if I had a relationship with a celebrity and we had a child I would never hide the fact that I am the father unless it could clearly do harm to both my child and my lover.

Schabrak
May 06, 2011, 03:02 AM
Eh... nowhere in the chapter there was a mention of "hidding" anything about Cana's relation to Gildarts so we don't know if her mother had ever thought about keep it secret, nor about the moment Cana learned the background of her father. For all we know she could have told tales about the great journeys of her famous ex and life a happy life with her daugther. She knew he was adventurous, so why disturb him, while he does good for the world? Why would her mother need to go into public like a attention whore, instead of living a normal peacful life?

ca12nag3
May 06, 2011, 06:50 AM
Eh... nowhere in the chapter there was a mention of "hidding" anything about Cana's relation to Gildarts so we don't know if her mother had ever thought about keep it secret, nor about the moment Cana learned the background of her father. For all we know she could have told tales about the great journeys of her famous ex and life a happy life with her daugther. She knew he was adventurous, so why disturb him, while he does good for the world? Why would her mother need to go into public like a attention whore, instead of living a normal peacful life?

I think this might be true, for a number of reasons.

First off Cana is in awe and impressed by her dad. This means she likes mages and is probably told by her mother how great they are. Remember how Romeo early on in the manga was teased by kids telling him they dont want to be mages when they grow up and how his dad is a lazy bum.
So obviously in the world of FT there are 2 camps those that like magic and those that hate it. So Cana is most likely brought up by her mom with her mom talking good about magic.

Also i dont think her mom would have send Cana to her dad if she hated him.

1337 haxor
May 06, 2011, 10:18 AM
I think this might be true, for a number of reasons.

First off Cana is in awe and impressed by her dad. This means she likes mages and is probably told by her mother how great they are. Remember how Romeo early on in the manga was teased by kids telling him they dont want to be mages when they grow up and how his dad is a lazy bum.
So obviously in the world of FT there are 2 camps those that like magic and those that hate it. So Cana is most likely brought up by her mom with her mom talking good about magic.

Also i dont think her mom would have send Cana to her dad if she hated him.

Certainly Cana's mother loved Gildartz, however, what puzzles me is why didn't she went up to her husband an showed it openly they had a child.

Was it that Gildartz was away for so long that she gave birth and perished between a single journey of his?

That would be pretty lame, I am expecting nothing less than an emotional explanation about why Cana apparently was kept a secret until her mother passed away.

Rival Guilds? Maybe she was from Raven Tail so that would explain why Gildartz hates Ivan so much.

ca12nag3
May 06, 2011, 10:23 AM
Certainly Cana's mother loved Gildartz, however, what puzzles me is why didn't she went up to her husband an showed it openly they had a child.

Was it that Gildartz was away for so long that she gave birth and perished between a single journey of his?

That would be pretty lame, I am expecting nothing less than an emotional explanation about why Cana apparently was kept a secret until her mother passed away.

Rival Guilds? Maybe she was from Raven Tail so that would explain why Gildartz hates Ivan so much.

I dont expect her mother to be from a rival guild. I expect it to be more along the line that she didnt want to pin him down. Perhaps she thought it would make him unhappy being at home instead of going on quests traveling the world.

And that she had Cana after they broke up.

You see Cana is 6 when meeting Gildarts so if he ever visited her in those 6 years hed know Cana is his. I figure he found out later (possibly investigating why this girl showed up) and was so shocked from the facts that he actualy feels ashamed. So this might be the reason why he didnt spoke to her.

But well find out soon in 1/3 chapters i hope.

1337 haxor
May 06, 2011, 11:18 AM
I dont expect her mother to be from a rival guild. I expect it to be more along the line that she didnt want to pin him down. Perhaps she thought it would make him unhappy being at home instead of going on quests traveling the world.

And that she had Cana after they broke up.

You see Cana is 6 when meeting Gildarts so if he ever visited her in those 6 years hed know Cana is his. I figure he found out later (possibly investigating why this girl showed up) and was so shocked from the facts that he actualy feels ashamed. So this might be the reason why he didnt spoke to her.

But well find out soon in 1/3 chapters i hope.

You know what is funny?

I tought exact of this in my first post on the issue last page.

The perspective that Gildartz would drop his magic carrer and settle to act as Cana's father was something that made her mother hide the truth from him.

Later he found out but was completely lost in how to tell her, especially once he realized it meant so much for her to tell that information personally to him.

RaveDragon
May 06, 2011, 11:32 AM
It seems so complicated but i have a feeling Mashima will portray it in a much more simple yet infinitely more powerful way, but i dont know if Gildartz will come to the island im starting to doubt it, i think cana and the rest will go back beaten up badly and sad about some event which shocked them (especially i think lucy and Natsu) and Cana will confront Gildartz because she learnt so much from her experience on FT island.

zeref ultear and hades will surely leave the island (maybe with bluenote and some of the kin)

if not meldy (get a feeling she's one that will stick around like usually shonen show flashbacks of characters that remain or reappear) might stick to FT to find Ultear again (maybe another love rival for Juvia lolz) and the rest might go into hiding or get arrested (former might not be so likely)

Id like to see a father daughter battle vs baddie though :/

Im curious about Cana's mother and her relationship with Gildartz, i mean either he knows nothing or he knows and has got some issues with the mother or Cana herself...hopefully tmr we get spoilers which might enlighten us (or in later chaps)

Ninja_Pirate
May 06, 2011, 11:36 PM
There could be a possibility that gildartz has just left his family because there must be some enemy .. (dark guild) who might approach or harm his family.. and that also could be a reason that he never came forward and called cana his daughter so that she be safe in FT... which however gildartz wanted so much... so this arc might end up wid Father daughter hugging each other wid tears of joy...

kakashidad
May 07, 2011, 05:49 AM
Where are the spoiler or the latest issue...to be found mods?I'm sorry for using this thread to ask these question but your spoiler thread is closed and it does say that,the next installment .Would be available on the 6th of may not by?
Again sorry if this sounds like a ''gripe'' lol.

ghostexiled
May 07, 2011, 06:11 AM
There is no word so far as to where the chapter is this week... so the only advice and request I can give, is to please just be patient.

Thanks!

kakashidad
May 07, 2011, 06:44 AM
I've not really read all,if any of the threads in here...lack of response to most of
my offering to the forum in the past been part of the reason boohoo pmsl.

Still i'm amazed.How or even why,there's a disscussion about GILDARTZ background and or family life...is it because of Cana being outted as his daughter?If anything it just shows he's a ''stay away bum of a father''no?lmao.

I get that he's probably the next strongest mage in the guild behind makarov.And that tons of fans are dying to see more of his abilities and for him to return to the island and assist his comrades.

I just think most are missing a ''trick''.This present situation or arc.Is to focus more on the candidates that are appling for S class status.It's about ''growth'' for those indivduals imo.So again, i can't see why the author would need to bring anyone back to the island that have already left it...or are not on it...so luxus imo.Won't be coming to there aid as well.

Surely it would be more epic from the author's standpoint as well as a few of us ''fans''.If the members that are presently on the island.Dealt with the situation themselves?even if they are out numbered or outgunned?(ONE) it would make a massive statement that fairytail are a very decent guild worthy of the fear and respect we've seen to date.(TWO)well there is'nt one really lol.Oh yeah that's it.If these low grade candidates can defeat half of the girimore heart guild.And they're not yet S CLASS, just think of the fear that would eminate from the coucil and the tarturus guild(spelling).We've already seen that the MC wanted to take them allout
in one swoop just to save on future troubles?no.

These are just my thoughts...Peace.
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There is no word so far as to where the chapter is this week... so the only advice and request I can give, is to please just be patient.

Thanks!

Thanks.I'll try :D

Kazu-Sama
May 07, 2011, 03:33 PM
I just think most are missing a ''trick''.This present situation or arc.Is to focus more on the candidates that are appling for S class status.It's about ''growth'' for those indivduals imo.So again, i can't see why the author would need to bring anyone back to the island that have already left it...or are not on it...so luxus imo.Won't be coming to there aid as well.


What about Fried and Bixlow? They're part of the test, they can still have a hell of a lot more character development, and they left the island. So if they come back, along with Gildart, then we get the return of Gildart to beat Bluenote while potentially having Fried/Bixlow beating some of the 7 kin. I don't want to see Natsu or Era beat anyone else. They are always the answers. Leave it to the minor characters for once...