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trunterzx
May 12, 2011, 10:10 AM
In the latest volume of ONE PIECE, Oda revealed that the scar on Luffy's chest, is due to the attack he received from Akainu, while being protected by Jinbei.

I must say I was a bit disappointed when I knew this.

When I first saw the scar, I always thought it was something made during his training. He had to go through some fierce training to attain a new skill or something. And that at some point in time, there will be a flashback to tell us what happened. But seemed like it's not going to happen now.

I just don't want it to end up like Naruto. Naruto didn't learn many new things after his 2 years of training.

Anyway, well, it also tells us something. Luffy is definitely going to face Akainu some day. Oda must have a reason for leaving the scar on Luffy's chest. The scar also reminds Luffy what happened in Marine Ford, and the fact that Akainu was the one who killed Ace. It also serves as a reminder to Luffy that he must be strong in order to protect his nakama.

I'm quite anxious to see how Luffy will take his revenge or how he will react when he sees Akainu again~:eyeroll

kkck
May 12, 2011, 12:04 PM
Oda revealed this? Wasn't it painfully obvious from the start that such a scar could only be caused by akainu's fist? I think most people would have associated the lava fist trashing luffy's chest with the huge scar in the exact same location for the most part hence an overall lack of disappointment in the area lol.

I agree in that luffy is going to fight akainu at some point but in turn it can be anytime even remotely soon. I doubt luffy can win against an admiral yet even if he could indeed fight back at least.

trunterzx
May 12, 2011, 12:23 PM
Well in the manga it wasn't very clearly drawn but in the anime it's pretty clear. I just didn't think that the reason for the scar was so "simple". I was looking forward to some other explanation so there was a bit of disappointment on my part. I guess I'll just look forward to Zoro's scar's explanation, if there's any =p

Yup he won't meet anytime soon. Since the meaning of the scar is so big I think it will probably be near the end of ONE PIECE. Or at least a few islands later~

Uriel
May 12, 2011, 05:28 PM
But that scar is awesome! It's for Luffy to remember Aikanu. :D

And I'm quite sure Luffy had some injuries that time healed. Don't worry, you can see He improved a lot after the timeskip. It wont end like Naruto xD

undertoe
May 13, 2011, 08:25 PM
I didn't really think this should have been a revelation to anyone.

Blue Walk
May 14, 2011, 05:15 PM
I like the fact that akainu gave luffy a permanent souvenir to remember him by until they meet again, but im only disappointed that since the start of this post-skip luffy's scar has been shrinking more and more. Before it really looked like an explosion of magma pierced through him, now it just looks like an 'X" :/

On topic though, yea, to me the scar coming from akainu was obvious.

Zeltrax
May 14, 2011, 07:45 PM
From the elephant haki imbued punch he used, I doubt it'll turn out like naruto.
Luffy is a whole lot stronger now, when usually it'll take him a few minutes to take out a pacifista..now it only took him a second.
Actually, I'm still surprised at his rate of growth :s

The scar is a reminder to a lesson learnt for luffy and it signifies the war he went through because the war is such an important point in the story, Oda made it so that luffy can remember it with that scar and of course, that scar is for him to remember what Akainu did and to carry it when he faces him in the future.

ChuckinUpDueces
May 14, 2011, 10:17 PM
I was wondering where that scar came from as well, but hadn't put it together that Akainu's attacks were the cause. Thanks for bringing this up.

coolerthanzerok
May 16, 2011, 02:53 AM
I just found it a little strange that a punch made an X shaped scar in Luffy. That's why this is surprising to me, but I suppose it makes enough sense.

trunterzx
May 16, 2011, 03:15 AM
Maybe it's just because an X-shape looks nicer, rather than some other random shape~

Zeltrax
May 16, 2011, 08:19 AM
X marks the spot of the treasure afterall and in the pirates world,
X signifies alot.
But I guess you guys already know that.

Morlun
May 17, 2011, 03:49 PM
The X shape is how Trafalgar chose to do the stiches.

Razh
May 20, 2011, 07:44 AM
That was really the only way to do the stitches for a wound such as that one. Personally, I prefer the fact that he has gotten the scar from a formidable opponent, rather than during some off-panel training. What, Rayleigh decided to slash his chest out in order to teach him some skill? Bollocks!
The scar has a story now. It's not some gay scar received in the middle of nowhere where nobody even saw it being made.
This way, when Luffy gets into a town in New World, pirates will be commenting things like - "Look at the scar Akainu gave him, and he still survived!" or "That's Strawhat Luffy, the one that broke out of Impel Down and knocked Garp out in Marineford. Look at the scar, can't believe he actually survived Akainu's fist. He must be really tough!"

Also, don't get how people didn't connect the scar with the hot, flesh rending lava fist right away.

undertoe
May 20, 2011, 02:29 PM
Also, don't get how people didn't connect the scar with the hot, flesh rending lava fist right away.

That's what I thought...

Youbba
May 21, 2011, 05:33 AM
here is where the scar came from

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c578/10.html

Razh
May 21, 2011, 06:10 AM
Ne, he got it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjlDxERWnYs#t=01m52s

Seriously, the moment I saw the scar I remembered this shitty filler. Who would have thought that the filler will have a spot-on prediction ><

trunterzx
May 21, 2011, 08:46 AM
Ne, he got it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjlDxERWnYs#t=01m52s

Seriously, the moment I saw the scar I remembered this shitty filler. Who would have thought that the filler will have a spot-on prediction ><

ROFL


Yeah I agree many people would want the scar to be made in a scene where everybody saw rather then some random scene where nobody knows. I remember Akainu's fierce attack. I just didn't expect it would leave a scar on his body.

Maybe for people like me who wants more stories told would hope that the scar has another story behind it, but I guess Akainu being the reason is more than good enough. I hope Luffy will explain about his scar and his resolutions one day. I wonder why nobody ask him about it.

ZERO PHOENIX
May 24, 2011, 11:27 AM
Well I'm not going to dis. I was also wondering where that scar came from. I thought he got it from Rayleigh during training. This revelation is a bit disappointing.

I'm going to remember this Akainu. :mad

trunterzx
May 24, 2011, 11:46 AM
Well I'm not going to dis. I was also wondering where that scar came from. I thought he got it from Rayleigh during training. This revelation is a bit disappointing.

I'm going to remember this Akainu. :mad

Finally a person who shares the same sentiments as me!! :hi5

Yeah I think Oda shouldn't have revealed it so early to keep people like us in suspense. At least he should have revealed it in the story instead of in the SBS~

ZERO PHOENIX
May 24, 2011, 12:07 PM
Finally a person who shares the same sentiments as me!! :hi5

Yeah I think Oda shouldn't have revealed it so early to keep people like us in suspense. At least he should have revealed it in the story instead of in the SBS~

Well, you know haters gonna dis. Only makes them feel better about themselves so eh. But yeah I had the same questions you did. Still, I think it was good that Oda revealed the origins of the scar early on. I mean if I read 100 more chapters of One Piece and the big reveal about the scar is that he got it from Akainu I would be seriously pissed off.

As far as Zoro is concerned he probably lost his eye to Mihawk. What I'm pissed at is the fact that the Straw Hats haven't drawn attention to it. I mean hello your captain has this big ass scar on his chest and Zoro is missing an eye. Is someone going to give my boys some attention? :mad

[It would be funny as hell if Zoro has a Sharingan.]

dct21
May 25, 2011, 12:46 AM
i agree with most people here, it was fairly obvious before oda said anything. And i think luffy already proved how much stronger his gotten over a two year time span. and naruto had 3 years, personally i think that was just bad writing on kishimotos part

Quaro1987
May 25, 2011, 09:12 AM
i agree with most people here, it was fairly obvious before oda said anything. And i think luffy already proved how much stronger his gotten over a two year time span. and naruto had 3 years, personally i think that was just bad writing on kishimotos part

But he spent 2 years making filler episodes for the anime, before he started training XD

ZERO PHOENIX
May 25, 2011, 11:24 AM
But he spent 2 years making filler episodes for the anime, before he started training XD

What do fillers (non-canon) have to do with the manga (canon)? :-_- Let me help you out. Not a damn thing.

hyper_megaman
July 27, 2011, 07:17 AM
how is luffy still alive anyway

that shot went through his solar plexis, looking at how the lava seems to extend beyond luffy's body in the hit shot

lots of essential nerves are bunched there, including those that keep the heart pumping

his bronchi should have been burnt as well, not to mention his heart

if the shot went through his entire chest, his spine should have been broken as well

trafalgar law could possibly be one of the most gifted doctors in the world. i'm thinking very detailed grafting of nerves and bone/muscle tissue with his powers

winterwyrm
July 29, 2011, 06:22 PM
how is luffy still alive anyway

that shot went through his solar plexis, looking at how the lava seems to extend beyond luffy's body in the hit shot

lots of essential nerves are bunched there, including those that keep the heart pumping

his bronchi should have been burnt as well, not to mention his heart

if the shot went through his entire chest, his spine should have been broken as well

trafalgar law could possibly be one of the most gifted doctors in the world. i'm thinking very detailed grafting of nerves and bone/muscle tissue with his powers

Well, theres a lot of things like that in the manga, like nobody seems to remember when crocodile skewered luffy with his hook, then left him under thousands of pounds of sand, while a mummy, seems like that would be lethal, and even so, that hit seemed to have severed jimbei's spine, as well as burning his lungs and who knows what else, yet he doesn't even have a single mark on him.

That aside, in OP there seems to be something to be said for willpower, not even including haki, irl it is possible to survive wounds and diseases by willpower alone, just by willing yourself conscious, it is possible to avoid drowning for a longer time, I've even heard stories of people surviving shots to the head and other serious wounds, as well as stories of parents surviving fatal illnesses just long enough to see their children graduate and then dying shortly thereafter.

In OP, serious, and even fatal wounds can be overcome with sheer willpower to a much greater degree, we saw that well in whitebeard during the war, since he had just a human body, but yet he kept fighting regardless of damage until the point when his hope ran out, and only died when he had no reason left to keep fighting in much the same manner, though clearly some things, like, say decapitation would be bound to work anyways, this is a real life, documented phenomena, whereby if one organ fails, another organ, or nerves or anything else can compensate, to prolong life for a very long time, OP just takes it much farther, allowing Rob Lucci to survive his wounds, albeit barely, and in fact many people who suffered lethal damage to go on to live a long, full life just because they had the will to live.

hyper_megaman
July 30, 2011, 05:49 AM
Well, theres a lot of things like that in the manga, like nobody seems to remember when crocodile skewered luffy with his hook, then left him under thousands of pounds of sand, while a mummy, seems like that would be lethal, and even so, that hit seemed to have severed jimbei's spine, as well as burning his lungs and who knows what else, yet he doesn't even have a single mark on him.

That aside, in OP there seems to be something to be said for willpower, not even including haki, irl it is possible to survive wounds and diseases by willpower alone, just by willing yourself conscious, it is possible to avoid drowning for a longer time, I've even heard stories of people surviving shots to the head and other serious wounds, as well as stories of parents surviving fatal illnesses just long enough to see their children graduate and then dying shortly thereafter.

In OP, serious, and even fatal wounds can be overcome with sheer willpower to a much greater degree, we saw that well in whitebeard during the war, since he had just a human body, but yet he kept fighting regardless of damage until the point when his hope ran out, and only died when he had no reason left to keep fighting in much the same manner, though clearly some things, like, say decapitation would be bound to work anyways, this is a real life, documented phenomena, whereby if one organ fails, another organ, or nerves or anything else can compensate, to prolong life for a very long time, OP just takes it much farther, allowing Rob Lucci to survive his wounds, albeit barely, and in fact many people who suffered lethal damage to go on to live a long, full life just because they had the will to live.

organ compensation? source?

Kyodai Senkan Mora
August 04, 2011, 01:04 AM
....Remember the sight of Shanks made Whitebeard's scar from Roger ache? Scars in one piece are in important IMHO to signify rivalry especially between two strong Opponents, In the same way Is anyone else reminded of shank's scar when you see luffy's scar? Two great pirates who are great friends both have scars from two formidable opponents.Maybe its a foreshadowing that in the final battle Luffy's last foe will be Akainu while Shank's will deal with BB.Then again who knows...This is Oda after all, the scars could just be a beauty mark lol.

THM Nindo
August 04, 2011, 11:49 AM
....Remember the sight of Shanks made Whitebeard's scar from Roger ache? Scars in one piece are in important IMHO to signify rivalry especially between two strong Opponents, In the same way Is anyone else reminded of shank's scar when you see luffy's scar? Two great pirates who are great friends both have scars from two formidable opponents.Maybe its a foreshadowing that in the final battle Luffy's last foe will be Akainu while Shank's will deal with BB.Then again who knows...This is Oda after all, the scars could just be a beauty mark lol.

Formidable opponents!? :blink
Just reminding you that Shanks' scars weren't Whitebeard's fault.

It's Blackbeard that gave those scars to Shanks.

And, IMO, Blackbeard is far from being a formidable opponent.
So far, all he has done is talk big and run away in front of more powerful people...

Schabrak
August 04, 2011, 02:13 PM
Blackbeard is a formidable enemy if you use the right translation[:D] and he has already shown his ability to adapt after acquiring WBs powers. Not playing fair is part of battle too, like 99% of fights in OP.

Kyodai Senkan Mora
August 05, 2011, 12:42 PM
Formidable opponents!? :blink
Just reminding you that Shanks' scars weren't Whitebeard's fault.

It's Blackbeard that gave those scars to Shanks.

And, IMO, Blackbeard is far from being a formidable opponent.
So far, all he has done is talk big and run away in front of more powerful people...

at no point in my post did I imply whitebeard caused shank's scar.If you recall when shank's came to visit him whitebeard's told him that the sight of him made the scar he got fro roger ache (as shanks was in rogers crew)......also blackbeard not a formidable opponent? R u reading the same manga I am?.....He's got two of the most powerful devils fruits,a crew of history's worst pirates and FACT:he did defeat ace,he fought a fleet admiral with no major damage and was directly responsible for whitebeard's ultimate demise...if this is not formidable to you I'd like to see what is.Maybe Oda should give him kyoka suigetsu and be done with it....just saying(lol)

kkck
August 05, 2011, 04:27 PM
Not to mention BB gave shanks that scar even before he had a fruit.... the guy has not even begun to show his true power.

BlackHair
August 05, 2011, 05:52 PM
His true power was shown while was he was begging for his life, as WB held him in his mercy xD


Scars are memento of a meaningful event, such as a important fight.

Schabrak
August 05, 2011, 05:58 PM
... do you have to be so picky? Wb as the strongest man alive had naturally the upper hand. Again, being tricky is the most normal thing in a fight for death, you would have fairly would you?

Ryoz
August 05, 2011, 09:21 PM
Anyway... am I the only one to think that the scar is on his back too.
héhéh 100% confident about it.
Well I am so confident that I won't even dicuss further :xp
I am just waiting for the next victory picture from his back with a X scar :turtle.
Just like this one (one of my favourite) (http://www.mangareader.net/103-2201-5/one-piece/chapter-94.html)but much better :p :headbang

THM Nindo
August 05, 2011, 11:38 PM
at no point in my post did I imply whitebeard caused shank's scar.If you recall when shank's came to visit him whitebeard's told him that the sight of him made the scar he got fro roger ache (as shanks was in rogers crew)......also blackbeard not a formidable opponent? R u reading the same manga I am?.....He's got two of the most powerful devils fruits,a crew of history's worst pirates and FACT:he did defeat ace,he fought a fleet admiral with no major damage and was directly responsible for whitebeard's ultimate demise...if this is not formidable to you I'd like to see what is.Maybe Oda should give him kyoka suigetsu and be done with it....just saying(lol)

Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.

Kyodai Senkan Mora
August 06, 2011, 12:26 AM
Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.

As long as we are quoting dictionaries: Formidable also means: Extremely impressive in strength or excellence. Nobody fears BB? did you not see the reaction of the marines when he gained the gura gura no mi? or the people of shabondy shoto when it was broadcasted to them? hmmm...seems like all round fear to me.

The only impressive thing he did was defeat ace? Ok how about this.............break into and out of impel down with a crew of level six prisoners................fight evenly with sengoku(even for a short while) sb who is above the admirals?......................defeat one of the supernovas without breaking so much as a sweat............fight shanks and give him a scar pre-devil's fruit. I don't know. These events impress the hell out of me as well.

BB comic relief............NO! I've never felt like laughing at any of BBs appearances...I was in awe of him in jaya,I hated him in banaro island,hated him even more in impel down and was positively disgusted with him in marineford...at no time however were his actions funny

Schabrak
August 06, 2011, 05:22 AM
It's getting highly off-topic.^^

Just as Kyodai mentioned, it seems like you have read past the manga. Blackbeard was one of the better fighters in WBs crew, has taken down Ace, a Shichibukai candidate, just to become one himself. Besides the admirals and Yonkou, they are already the most feared pirates/people around. Last time seens he's taken down the most feared/loved character of OP and took his powers, now able to tear down fortresses, create natural disasters on his own. If that's not a reason to fear, your definition of the word must be pretty shaky.

ish3
August 07, 2011, 12:42 PM
Scars themselves I wouldn't necessary say means they're your rival however in this manga when you clearly have one from a powerful character then it comes as such. A rivalry.

Blackbeard in this case I feel he had a hidden power (another fruit) no one knew about but if you think about it. He's like Luffy except took extreme measures to make a name for himself. His plan to go into impel down wouldn't have worked without our favorite main character.

Truth be told Blackbeard isn't scary tactics or not he still has a long way to go as well. He has strong fruit powers but needs a lot of training. Or experience. He always runs when it comes to strong opponents seeing that he's a huge threat now. Lol I bet after the timeskip he got skinnier lol. Who knows. Or fatter. You guys need to stop getting off topic just wanted to throw in my input.

Schabrak
August 07, 2011, 04:10 PM
O-T:
We've got a longer BB discussion going on some months ago. One important argument got caught, that he's a realist that won't face a danger he can avoid till he got the means to have the upper hand. He's not a airhead like Luffy, he's doing precisely as planed, his strategy has helped him to get the strongest possible combination of power. At least for him, it's nothing to be angry about.

kkck
August 08, 2011, 01:00 PM
Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.

Well, the gorosei seemed quite fearful of the guy to say the least. They thought only a yonko could possibly stop him for the most part which is quite something. Shanks has expressed severe concerns over the guy too, enough to face WB himself and ask him to stop ace. More so, BB did kinda fight on shanks level even without a fruit not so long along. Jinbei expressed concern over the power of the guy when he mentioned he had somehow acquired enough power to beat ace and was an unknown quantity.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v56/c544/8.html

The main issue here is that we have hardly seen everything WB has to offer. I honestly doubt we have seen even with WB's fruit the full extent of his capacity.

Lord Rayleigh
August 10, 2011, 04:56 PM
Not to mention BB gave shanks that scar even before he had a fruit.... the guy has not even begun to show his true power.
We still have no clue when it was done, it was between the Edd War (27 years ago) and Shanks meeting with Luffy (12 years ago). We only know Shanks was between 12 and 27 years old (he is now 39). That's an old mystery : remember that Oda did well on chapter 0 hidding Shanks'face when he was crying over Roger's death.

So we cannot conclude anything for the moment. Rayleigh told Luffy that he met Shanks taking a fresh start at Sabaody after he gave him his strawhat and lost his arm. Thus Shanks was not a Yonkou when he met Luffy and so when he got that scar. Shanks'strenght was between his apprentice's days and his rivalry with Mihawks. Probably strong enough to explain later Whitebeard that Blackbeard did not injure him by surprise.

MaiSiaoSiao
August 10, 2011, 06:35 PM
But Whitebeard did mentioned that "everyone was surprise when a man like shanks came back from East Blue without his left arm"and so on. Doesn't that mean that Shanks was already/maybe a Yonkou when he met Luffy?

Schabrak
August 11, 2011, 04:27 AM
No he was not, just as Lord Rayleigh wrote. He chilled for a year at Windmill Village before he started his journey to the New World, where he met his old Vice-Captain and told him about Luffy. Losing an arm was obviously an device to create tension, show the hardship of the sea and at the same time tease Shanks real might.

BlackHair
August 11, 2011, 05:34 PM
... do you have to be so picky? Wb as the strongest man alive had naturally the upper hand. I was just kidding around, thought that smiley -> (xD) was enough, but well nvm. But about ur argument, WB's title doesn't mean much in a fight between high tiers. I didn't see Akainu begging.


I hate BB, but I think that Oda created the most perfect villain in all manga history. I could elaborate on this, but that would be offtopic ^^

hilariussix9
May 25, 2012, 06:18 AM
From what i have seen Akainu can't have given luffy his scar because in the anime he has the scar in episode 224 and luffy didn't fight Akainu until the next saga and that was near the end of that saga (second to last arc)

hoeru
May 25, 2012, 08:26 AM
It was Akainu. Please read the original piece (http://www.mangareader.net/103-48478-9/one-piece/chapter-578.html), since the TV anime is censored anyways. Akainu's attack went through Jinbe and still hit Luffy. It's the same scene in which Luffy loses his Strawhat.

Zoronoa Roro
May 30, 2012, 04:00 AM
In anime Akainu gives Luffy scar... He didnt see right

Uriel
May 30, 2012, 09:05 AM
As the question and subject is already answered, thread closed.PM me if you have something relevant about this