The Breaker : New Waves 32 Discussion

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[NAM61]

http://blog.naver.com/tdstudio.do the cover for chapter 32

maybe the bully will go after saehee to get to shioon

[LoS]

maybe the bully will go after sae to get to shioon

Gee, like that idea hasn't happened enough already

[Charlie]

Gee, like that idea hasn't happened enough already

True

but Its a smart move on his part. Easiest way to go get to Shioon.

Cover looks Amazing. :worship
Cant wait for the next chapter. :arro

[LoS]

No it is dumb and repetitive, he literally just did that. Would be a complete lack of creativity.

[halfcrzy]

No it is dumb and repetitive, he literally just did that. Would be a complete lack of creativity.
Man I hear you on that. He has threatened Shioon with this, what, 4~5 times already. Just save changho for later and create a cool showdown for when Shioon gets his ki back. Im agreeing with what the others have said. When Jinie isn't in the picture stuff gets done, I also think the same thing for Saehae. Whenever these girls are in the picture nothing seems to happen. We need more Sera. Plot happens.

[revennge]

There's that and also form Sera we get important plot points. Such as info about SUC, that they are just pretenders, shioon is the only real disciple, shioon can't ask for help to sunwoo clan and etc. Saehee just another plot device, which is getting old and repetitive.

[kidopitz27]

i think this chapter will involve around Jinie on why she didn't kill Shioon when there is always a cover picture with a character in it sometimes its revolves around that cover character

[TheMoa]

but the girl in the cover is Jinnie or Saehee?

[Charlie]

but the girl in the cover is Jinnie or Saehee?

Thats Saehee from the cover pic preview.

[Bhoot]

Well I cound't understand how pr for that matter what I was suppose to see . Anyways , going after Sahee is the smart move . Yes its repetitive , but it guarantees to put Shion in a load of pressure and rush into an obvious trap .

[matzik1212]

i think this chapter will involve around Jinie on why she didn't kill Shioon when there is always a cover picture with a character in it sometimes its revolves around that cover character

we already know why she didn't kill shioon ...it was 'cause she's head over heels in love with him and i don't blame her :)
though it's possible this chapter to be about jinie i hope this won't happen ....there are a lot more interesting things that were left hanging that i'm curious about .....i wanna know what has in mind that doctor concerning shioon :darn and for what purpose does he want his body :D

[shakes12]

how will he help shioon use ki, thats all im interested abt

[Inne]

Even though Saehee is on the cover page I doubt the chapter will have her in it kind of like that one cover page a few chapters ago when Jinie was on the cover page but she didn't even come out in the actual chapter itself. Though as shakes12 said I do wonder what method that Doctor will use in order to have Shioon be able to use Ki seeing as how from what he said it's basically impossible to restore his Ki Center back to normal.

[toodlydo]

Even though Saehee is on the cover page I doubt the chapter will have her in it kind of like that one cover page a few chapters ago when Jinie was on the cover page but she didn't even come out in the actual chapter itself.
Just what I was thinking. Also, Chang going after Saehee would not make sense since he is now in the subway looking for Shioon. I highly doubt there is going to be any action at all. Might just be some flashbacks and surprise (seeing Shioon's skill, since they did not know about his ankle getting injured from the foot technique) in the faces of the two people who seem to be controlling Chang. We might also see some convo from the Sunwoo clan elders. The author is going to have to do some ridiculous writing to weave in the old characters from season 1 into this season. Hope he could pull it off without messing it up.

Update:

마감하면서 4시전에는 올릴 수 있을 거 같았는데 후반작업이 생각보다 시간이 많이 걸려서 좀 늦어질 거 같네요.. 너무 노여워 마시고요 잠 한 숨 안자고 최선을 다해서 마감을 하고 있습니다.. 조금만 기다려 주세요...
Note on Daum. The chapter might only be out by 4 PM (UTC+9).

[ChaoticKen]

Nope. Author's saying that he thought he could have it up before 4 pm, but the important part is the title.

"32화는 오후6시에 올라갈 거 같습니다"

It seems as if Chapter 32 will go up at 6 pm.

As usual, he offers apologies and asks readers not to be angry. As with last week, I most likely will not be providing a translation because I get off work before it goes up.

[toodlydo]

Oops. Thanks for clarifying that. Missed the headline. Thanks.

[Inne]

Well as long it's not delayed a whole week then it's cool seeing as how as we the fans are able to view it online for free and the author is also providing us with a great manwha for free so no complaints here.

[Renegade334]

Ch.32 from DAUM:

Series Webpage (http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/view/BREAKER2) / Chapter 32 (http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/11722)

[Inne]

Hm so from what I can see what that Doctor meant by body was his blood or a sample of his tissue, something along those lines. It also appears that he took some other magic pill like he did Part 1 but this time for whatever reason it will allow him to use his Ki in a normal way as if his Ki Center wasn't broken. Will that's what I think *shrugs* but who knows until a trans is out. Though if that pill really does allow him to temporarily use his Ki normally then next chapter should be awesome with Shioon saying something like "This is the real Soul Crushing Strike" or whatnot but hey at least it seems that the story really is starting to pickup whenever the girls aren't around lol.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

My guess is that it turns out that the pill the doctor gave him doesn't take effect immediately, much to Shioon's dismay. <_<.

And Changho gets a hit in. Still, we know that Shioon isn't one to be KO'ed by a single blow like that, not after what he went through against Ji-Gun, for instance.

[revennge]

Oi oi, is it me or Shioons smile at the end of the chapter creeps me out? Looks soo creepy. It seems pill took the effect and Shioon is ready to pwn some noobs.

[LoS]

Oh wow, Shioon running around, and getting beat on

how surprising....

[toodlydo]

Looks like I was wrong. Hopefully Shioon goes *Berserk mode activated*

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Looks like I was wrong. Hopefully Shioon goes *Berserk mode activated*

Well, I seriously HOPE next chapter'll be all about "Shioon's Counterattack Of Awesome"...

[shakes12]

he couldn't fix his ki centre, so what did the pill do?

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Taking a closer look at the chapter, the doctor says "30분" at one page, that is to say, thirty minutes, so I take it that the pill needs 30 minutes to work...

[scav]

oh this chapter look really nice.

[thornofcarrion]

The cover page (spoiler) leaves hardly any room for discussion. About involvement of Saehee, yes it is repetitive but its the obvious and strategic course of action. I think, the Doctor should be very strong. It is interesting how the story is developing.

[ChaoticKen]

Bleh, people are never fucking satisfied whenever a new chapter comes out. Jesus motherfucking Christ.

I went to an Internet Cafe to chill, and ended up translating despite saying I wasn't going to because I liked this chapter, but apparently that feeling's not mutual.

As always, my translations are far from perfect.

In summation, screw you haters. As always.


"So, he's hiding here, huh?"

"Lee ShiWoon."

"Come out!"

"I said come out."

"Huh?"


"Damn it! He ran away!"

"Uwaaaaa!"

"Huh?"

"U..."

"Uwaaaaaa!"


"Huh?"

"Did you just hear some screams?"

"Mmm... who knows."

"But aren't you prohibited from raising stuff like snakes there?"

"This should be enough for now?" (small text in between bubbles. Also, more of a rhetorical question to self)

"I'm not raising them. They're medical ingredients."

"Medical ingredients?"

"I may look like this but I do get customers who come for." (for help)

"Have a good day."

"Can you just walk out of a blood donation car with blood?" (ShiWoon is presumably talking about the blood that he just gave, which is most likely the payment that the doctor was asking for)

"Ah, since I often bring them customers (blood donors?), I'm friends with the manager here."

"Even so, I still don't think it's not right..."

"Well, since I got what I asked for..."


"As promised, I'll give you this."

"Huh?"

"Eat this before you fight, then you'll be able to use the martial arts that you used to be able to again."

"Then if I eat this will my danjeon be restored?"

"Well, it's not that..."

"Uwaaaaaa~!"

"Huh?"

"Uhiiiii~!"

"Huh...?"

"Tsk! Just what the hell are those?"

"Huh?"


"He's right over there! That kid!"

"!"

"Huh?"

"Lee ShiWoon!"

"Get that bastard!"

"People you know?"

"..."

"This... You said if I eat it I could use martial arts, right?"

"Huh?"

"I'll put my faith in it. This medicine of yours."

"!"

"Huh?"

"You're not running away? Or have you given up?"


"I didn't run away."

"The reason I came here was"

"to find a way to teach you, no... the S.U.C something that they got wrong."

"Sunseng-nim isn't the bad person that you guys think he is."

"If sunseng-nim was here he wouldn't have tolerated these actions of yours."

"But nobody was about to point this out."

"Because, you've never actually met with sunseng-nim... no, GuMoonRyong directly."

!"

"You guys are being manipulated... By someone who isn't the real sunseng-nim..."

"..."

"Idiot. The one who has it wrong is you..."

"!"


"We've never met him, you say? You meet GuMoonRyong-nim everyday and get orders from him."

"!"

"We hear his honorable worlds through this and are preparing for the new world."

"The world in which we become the owners of this land."

"No! That's your delusion!"

"More than anything else what you've got wrong is that martial arts style."

"It seems similar to sunseng-nim's but is really nothing but a imitation."

"Sunseng-nim's true martial arts style was nothing like that."


"Then don't just talk and show it to me! The proper martial arts of GuMoonRyong."

"Fine. Now I'll show it to you properly."

"The difference between the martial arts that you use and sunseng-nim's..."

"Ch, all talk."

"Then shall we fight?"

"This is what Sera-nuna was talking about."

"That only I could do to prove that the S.U.C aren't disciples of GuMoonRyong..."


"If I can show the proper martial arts style of sunseng-nim..."

"I can dissolve the S.U.C."

"I'll fight... I'll fight and win!"

"Hey. Hey."

!"

"Don't come closer, sir. You could get hurt."

"No, that's not it."

"I wasn't finished talking back then... The medicine takes effect 30 minutes after."

"!"


"Eh? The... then if I want to use martial arts?"

"Who know...? You could try asking them to wait to fight a bit later..."

"What's keeping you? You doing this or what."

"Um... Could we fight 30 minutes later?"

"!"

"What kind of trick are you trying to pull after talking like that?"

"Tsk!"

"Huh?"

"You fucker! You said you weren't running away!"

"I'm saying let's fight in 30 minutes!"

"Hey! Get that bastard!"


"Foot techniques, you say."

"Right. That was definitely a foot technique."

"You must have seen something wrong. It's impossible to manage ki with a broken danjeon."

"And obviously you can't use martial arts, which requires negong in that state."

"I didn't see wrong!"

"On top of that, according to the communication just now the kid was bragging about how the S.U.C was fake and he would show the true martial arts of GuMoonRyong!"

"So, is he fighting right now?"

"Nope."

"They say he's merrily running away."


"Gasp."

"Gasp."

"Over there!"

"Stand still."

"Gasp."

"Get him."

"Gasp."


"It... it feels like I'm gonna die."

"Gasp."

"Gasp."

"When are the effects going to take place?"

"Hey. That kid can't use martial arts, right?"

"Gasp."

"Gasp."

"Then why isn't he even getting tired?"

"And,"

"Why can't we catch up to him?"

"Gasp."

"Gasp."


"!!"


"!!"


"Uwaaa"

"Ku ku ku! Got you."

"It... it's not just getting him... if it's that much, isn't it killing him?"

"Y... yeah."

"What are you doing? Bastards! Drag him out!"

"!!"


"Wha, what are you doing! I'll call the cops!"

"Kyaaa!"

"What you looking at? You bastards! You all want to be put in the same state?"

"Kyaaa!"

"He flew over there, right?"


"Huh?"

"He's still conscious? Even after that?"

"Aaah.... I can feel it now..."

"This feeling that I'd been forgetting..."

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

The cover page (spoiler) leaves hardly any room for discussion. About involvement of Saehee, yes it is repetitive but its the obvious and strategic course of action. I think, the Doctor should be very strong. It is interesting how the story is developing.

Not every cover page is a hint of future events you know :P . Saehee may indeed get involved though. Time will tell.

[toodlydo]

Bleh, people are never fucking satisfied whenever a new chapter comes out. Jesus motherfucking Christ.
I did not see much hate in any of the posts above. Well, maybe one sarcastic one.

But I completely understand your feeling. In the heat of the moment/just habitually, people tend to forget that the author might already written/outlined the story quite far. He just arranges them and puts them out as weekly chapters. What we do when we complain is doing the same as reading one chapter from a novel and complaining about the story without really knowing what is going to come in the chapters ahead. I too sometimes feel disappointed at a chapter. But, that is not due to disrespect to the author, rather because I could not get to see what I wanted to see in the chapter. What we do are just speculations and not show disrespect to the author/artist. I can't imagine the amount of stress they undergo working on chapters, deadlines, number of pages, and a lot more that I wouldn't know. I know better than to show disrespect to those who are working this hard to provide us readers with FREE weekly chapters. I hope others feel the same. But, as we all know, haters gonna hate. There is nothing we can do about that.

Thanks a ton for your translations. I am greateful to all involved in getting the chapters to the non-native people all over the world who appreciate this awesome manhwa.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

I'm hoping that will not be a one-off medicine. As in, he uses it one time and the effects only last for an hour and the next time he needs to use martial arts again he has to take another pill. That would suck.

We don't want Shioon getting too reliant on that pill.

And I think the haters ChaoticKen was referring to might be the Koreans who post comments at the Daum site itself rather than this thread (though LoS seems to have posted a lot of hateful comments).

I do agree that people shouldn't hate and complain about The Breaker: New Waves just because it isn't going the way they wanted (a lot of complains seem to be linked with how slow Shioon is getting back his inner ki center, but if he gets it back early then the whole point of making him lose his ki center would be pointless). A certain somebody has made a lot of complaints about The Breaker: New Waves being repetitive and predictable and while I disagree with him, he IS entitled his own opinion. However, hearing the same complaint over and over again does tend to wear out the other readers and commenters on the forum. Especially when several of his predictions have gone wrong (I remember him having to eat his words in a previous thread), and he still insists that it is predictable and repetitive. I mean, I heard you complain the first few times, and you are entirely justified to do that. But after the 32nd time, you have to admit that even the most patient fellow fans get tired of reading your umpteenth complaints because it eventually sounds like nitpicking rather than a sincere expression of dissatisfaction with the story itself. Getting your predictions wrong don't contribute to your cause either. For example, the Jigun example where you predicted somebody would save Shioon from getting killed by Jigun, but Shioon managed to beat Jigun in that fight and only needed saving when those underlings came in, but you still went on how he needed to be saved anyway. Or how he would get beaten up by Changho, but Shioon actually punched the idiot in the face (which led to the comment that you had to eat your words), and you still expressed some dissatisfaction with that outcome. I'm not picking on you or anything and I don't mean any offense, but you do see where I am coming from, I hope.

Let's see, what have we got for the past 32 chapters? Basically, Shioon being dragged into the Sunwoo clan, getting saved by Jinie, challenged by Jigun and now facing down the SUC with help from Sera. Is that predictable and repetitive? I don't think so. But if you still think so, then you haven't been reading deeply enough.

There are underlying themes beneath all that surface of merely action and not getting his ki back and getting pummeled. It would be easy for the author to pander to fans and readers and have Shioon owning everybody he met. I bet some fans would be happy, especially some hypocritical ones who are complaining about how boring and repetitive (not to mention predictable) it is to see Shioon getting beaten up over and over again but ironically the same old scenes of Shioon beating up his opponents wouldn't be repetitive and predictable (to them anyway). But the theme the author is trying to express here is that Shioon didn't merely learn martial arts from his teacher Chunwoo. He gained something far more valuable than that, which is a will of steel, unshakable belief and determination and courage. If you read the first Breaker, you would recall that Shioon was a coward who was constantly bullied and even thought of suicide. The author is trying to show that the change in Shioon from a weak, pushover and cowardly spineless guy was NOT because he learned martial arts.

Basically, learning martial arts itself does not make one strong. The author is trying to portray that. And he is also trying to tell us that the most important thing that Shioon learned was NOT martial arts but the courage and will to stand up to others and fight for himself. Not being some infinite-ki genius martial artist, but someone who actually learned valuable lessons on bravery and mindset from his teacher.

That was why he was willing to stand up to Jigun, whereas in the past he would just grovel before the guy and cry like he did whenever Changho picked on him. And that was why he was standing up to Changho, the guy who bullied him in the past, despite some dudes thinking he would be traumatized. That is what the author is trying to portray here. It is not just a simple martial arts manhwa where Shioon fights chapter after chapter. It is also a philosphical lesson in getting your values and mindset right. If you don't have the courage or determination or willpower, learning the strongest martial arts like Black Heaven and Earth Formula is useless. But if you have the courage, determination or willpower, then it doesn't matter even if you have a broken ki center - you will find a way to win and defeat your opponents. The author is giving us the message that when there is a will, there is a way.

That said, I do hope that medicine is not temporary, or he is going to be heavily dependant on it every time he needs to fight. I'm sure no one wants that either, right? But in my opinion, I have enjoyed the past few chapters tremendously and will look forward to the next.

[NAM61]

good chapter wonder what that medicine was hope it is not temporary. looks like next chapter the bully and the suc are going to see the true techs of shioon.

scans http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32

[Monsterguy]

@toodlydo
and
@TomoyukiTanaka

Well said, I totally agree on all your points above !!!

I really can't wait for another chapter... :XD

I wish the next Friday would come soon. To think that Shioon would be able to use martial arts again, I can not be more thrilled at how the story would go on... :woo

Oh and many, many thanx for translations ChaoticKen, nothing more to say, excelent as always... :smile-big

[sabret00the]

So we're gonna finally see Shioon win a fight huh. Awesome.

[scav]

wow chapter was translated fast this week :woo
that was kinda funny when Shioon asked for 30mn :p
now i wonder if the effect of the pill are temporary or permanent. I hope they're permanent. Can't wait for next chapter, we will finally see the shioon of the part 1 :shakefist

I'm hoping that will not be a one-off medicine. As in, he uses it one time and the effects only last for an hour and the next time he needs to use martial arts again he has to take another pill. That would suck.

We don't want Shioon getting too reliant on that pill.

And I think the haters ChaoticKen was referring to might be the Koreans who post comments at the Daum site itself rather than this thread (though LoS seems to have posted a lot of hateful comments).

I do agree that people shouldn't hate and complain about The Breaker: New Waves just because it isn't going the way they wanted (a lot of complains seem to be linked with how slow Shioon is getting back his inner ki center, but if he gets it back early then the whole point of making him lose his ki center would be pointless). A certain somebody has made a lot of complaints about The Breaker: New Waves being repetitive and predictable and while I disagree with him, he IS entitled his own opinion. However, hearing the same complaint over and over again does tend to wear out the other readers and commenters on the forum. Especially when several of his predictions have gone wrong (I remember him having to eat his words in a previous thread), and he still insists that it is predictable and repetitive. I mean, I heard you complain the first few times, and you are entirely justified to do that. But after the 32nd time, you have to admit that even the most patient fellow fans get tired of reading your umpteenth complaints because it eventually sounds like nitpicking rather than a sincere expression of dissatisfaction with the story itself. Getting your predictions wrong don't contribute to your cause either. For example, the Jigun example where you predicted somebody would save Shioon from getting killed by Jigun, but Shioon managed to beat Jigun in that fight and only needed saving when those underlings came in, but you still went on how he needed to be saved anyway. Or how he would get beaten up by Changho, but Shioon actually punched the idiot in the face (which led to the comment that you had to eat your words), and you still expressed some dissatisfaction with that outcome. I'm not picking on you or anything and I don't mean any offense, but you do see where I am coming from, I hope.

Let's see, what have we got for the past 32 chapters? Basically, Shioon being dragged into the Sunwoo clan, getting saved by Jinie, challenged by Jigun and now facing down the SUC with help from Sera. Is that predictable and repetitive? I don't think so. But if you still think so, then you haven't been reading deeply enough.

There are underlying themes beneath all that surface of merely action and not getting his ki back and getting pummeled. It would be easy for the author to pander to fans and readers and have Shioon owning everybody he met. I bet some fans would be happy, especially some hypocritical ones who are complaining about how boring and repetitive (not to mention predictable) it is to see Shioon getting beaten up over and over again but ironically the same old scenes of Shioon beating up his opponents wouldn't be repetitive and predictable (to them anyway). But the theme the author is trying to express here is that Shioon didn't merely learn martial arts from his teacher Chunwoo. He gained something far more valuable than that, which is a will of steel, unshakable belief and determination and courage. If you read the first Breaker, you would recall that Shioon was a coward who was constantly bullied and even thought of suicide. The author is trying to show that the change in Shioon from a weak, pushover and cowardly spineless guy was NOT because he learned martial arts.

Basically, learning martial arts itself does not make one strong. The author is trying to portray that. And he is also trying to tell us that the most important thing that Shioon learned was NOT martial arts but the courage and will to stand up to others and fight for himself. Not being some infinite-ki genius martial artist, but someone who actually learned valuable lessons on bravery and mindset from his teacher.

That was why he was willing to stand up to Jigun, whereas in the past he would just grovel before the guy and cry like he did whenever Changho picked on him. And that was why he was standing up to Changho, the guy who bullied him in the past, despite some dudes thinking he would be traumatized. That is what the author is trying to portray here. It is not just a simple martial arts manhwa where Shioon fights chapter after chapter. It is also a philosphical lesson in getting your values and mindset right. If you don't have the courage or determination or willpower, learning the strongest martial arts like Black Heaven and Earth Formula is useless. But if you have the courage, determination or willpower, then it doesn't matter even if you have a broken ki center - you will find a way to win and defeat your opponents. The author is giving us the message that when there is a will, there is a way.

That said, I do hope that medicine is not temporary, or he is going to be heavily dependant on it every time he needs to fight. I'm sure no one wants that either, right? But in my opinion, I have enjoyed the past few chapters tremendously and will look forward to the next.
totally agree with that, u sir have my respect :beer

[kidopitz27]

the next chapter will be legen......wait for it.......dary LEGENDARY!! and it's on like donkey kong lolz :P

[k-dom]

Since Shioon was able to use a foot technique and that by eating a pills his martial art skills are awaken again, make me think that Goomonryong did not really destroy his Ki center. At least he did it so that people would believe that it was destroyed but there was still a way Shioon could continue fighting. It seems the doctor was able to sense it. Maybe Shioon has not a ki center but it is replaced by other special place.
Anyway now that Shioon powers are back, it suck for the SUC (© skav) but also for Jinie grand father

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

My worry is also that the pill's effect is a temporarily one. That, said, we don't know how long it'll last even if that's the case. An hour? A day? A week? A month? The pill was implied to be good for one fight, at least, but beyond that....? At worst, I foresee Shioon doing a lot of blood donations in the near future :eyeroll . Let's hope that this is not the case, though...

By the way, are things really that negative among the korean fans? :blink

[kidopitz27]

That's a shocker like what Po discovered that his father a duck is not his real father hehehehe (Mantis: wow what a shocker well at least your mom didn't eat the head of your dad :p)


now my the theory of charlie and mine combine is showing :P



I'm not sure if she was calming to be the 9 arts dragon or just the one who taught Chang Ho his current skills.



This gives me an idea that someone know GMR and impersonating him so that he can use that name to gather followers and besides only a handful of people saw GMR's face and sometimes those who saw GMR's face end up dead and it also gave me another idea that S.U.C kills murim and ordinary people because they saw the real GMR's face and if that someone announce that the S.U.C's GMR is fake this will ruin them :P

i think those 2 in the car will get so surprise that Shioon's punch is creating the sonic booms (man i miss that attack) and i hope he will use Thunder punch of Sunwoo clan :)

i hope this thread :The Breaker : New Waves 32 Spoiler Thread will not become a Flaming thread :(

[ChaoticKen]

My comments were based on what I've generally noted from the MangaHelper forums, not the Korean comments. I don't really think I've noticed much complaints on Daum comments section about the story; most of the conflict and controversy between people there seem to be regarding the author's tendency to update late and his right to do so and whatnot. Though that in itself is pretty heated, considering the author himself needs to ask people to calm down and chill.

As toodles noted, there was pretty much only one disparaging comment in this thread. But this is something that's been eating at me whenever I visit this forum for a while now. It's gotten to the point that whenever I see certain avatars, I just get a headache. Last week I typed out a short rant that went on for a few paragraphs before deleting it because I didn't want a repeat of minor thread derailing that I caused the last time I did so, a few months back. And also because I didn't want to get another post deleted, because I have a thing against that.

Yeah, sure, I get it. People are entitled to their own opinions. But when that opinion seems to be "this sucks" repeated over a span of a few months, week after week, I get sick of it. What the hell does that complaining achieve? That shit's far more repetitive than the story of The Breaker: New Waves.

But what really annoys me even more is that some people refuse to accept it when things happen to take an upward turn, and then downplay the fucking thing. People bitch about ShiWoon constantly being beaten up and not being able to win a proper fight. He then OHKOs a fat dude through the use of a tactic that he never bothered using before (that is, actually aiming instead of wildly throwing punches). Those same people then say that it was meaningless because the fat guy was weak and shit, discounting for the fact that it marks an improvement in ShiWoon's battle capability and the fact that hey, he won against a guy who could use martial arts while unable to use it himself, and he did it without taking a hit.

I get that one can hate a series that they liked, or hate something from the get-go. Taste is subjective, or so I believe. Hell, I hate Bleach and Prince of Tennis despite having stuck with them for a few years. But I don't go into the forums and decry that the chapters are crap constantly. Granted, this may have something to do with the fact that I stopped reading them after I became tired of certain traits of the manga. And the fact that I don't really discuss chapters even for series I keep track with. And the fact that I pretty much only come to the Breaker forum (or MangaHelper as a whole, really) to post a weekly translation because I'm a Thanks-mongering glutton for the people who enjoy the series. But I digress.

I'm well aware that I tend to be overly defensive of The Breaker. Hell, the majority of my recent translations began with something along the words of "Dear haters, fucking shown" and whatnot. I'm not very happy when people criticize things I like, even when the criticisms are on point. Which is why I try to contend with the half-joking shtick. But sometimes, I find it hard to agree with the criticisms, no matter how much I try. Sometimes, I just find them goddamn tedious and annoying.

I'm also aware that The Breaker isn't some kind of ground-breaking masterpiece. Nor have I ever thought of it as one. I find it to be pretty good, worth waiting every Friday for and an enjoyable read. At worst, it's sorta generic. But the way people act, you'd think that it was somehow a fantastic, previously-unheard-of trailblazer that somehow suddenly went to shit.

Why the fuck is that?

[TomoyukiTanaka]

Sorry about that...I almost thought you were referring to the Korean comments. My bad.

Yeah, I agree with you - every time I see that avatar of Luffy with red eyes I kind of dread what he will say. No offense, but I have seen him complaining so much over the past few months that I am tempted to just skip through his comments altogether whenever I see his avatar. And I understand and empathize with you completely on seeing the same old complains repeated over and over again for a few months - I find that more annoying than the manhwa's supposed repetitiveness as well. Like I said, I respect his opinion and his choice to dislike and hate the manhwa, but I don't need to hear why he hates the manhwa 32 times every time a new chapter comes out, or presumptiously predict how the next chapter is going to be boring before getting it wrong and then continue insisting that it was boring and predictable anyway. A few times, I don't mind. But I think he overdid here.

I think the reason why so many people whine and bitch about how boring The Breaker: New Waves is, is precisely because TB:NW is the victim of its own success. After bringing the series to dizzying heights with spectacular fights and pure ownage, people held certain perceptions and expectations of what the sequel would be like, albeit misconceived and sadly mistaken. And when the manhwa doesn't go the way they want it to, they start raging and calling it repetitive and boring or find all sorts of fault with it. Okay, maybe some of them are genuinely dissatisfied with it, but when they repeat the same old complaints too many times it gets annoying. But basically people are angry and disappointed because the manhwa ultimately didn't go the way they wanted (which usually consists simplistically of Shioon getting his ki center back miraculously quickly and owning everyone).

And like I said before, if you read TB: NW purely to see Shioon own random dudes or because of crazy fight scenes of Goonmoonryong's OWNAGE of every martial artist out there, prepare to be disappointed. TB: NW is about the New Waves, which includes Shioon as one of the new martial artists in the Murim, and also about the lessons he learned and what he had gained other than martial arts from his teacher, which I have already posted in my earlier post. It's not a simple action manhwa of ownage and super martial arts. It's also a philosophical one on how Shioon grows up and gains something way more important than martial arts.

I hope I am not digressing here, this is supposed to be a spoilers thread, not a discussion on what TB: NW's themes are really all about.

[Inne]

Well Shioon's last few lines in the chapter really are what made the chapter for me. Next week should be very interesting indeed, as it is I can see that idiot Changho going for the kill and then BAM, Foot Techniques bitch with Shioon dodging his attack similar to Part 1 back when he was being chased around at his school by the Martial Arts Alliance and then knocking his ass out with nothing but one Soul Crushing Strike and then the rest of those SUC guys just running away in fear.

@Kichiku I do believe that this pill will probably only last roughly for around an hour but the Doctor will create a brand new pill tailor made to Shioon by using the blood that he withdrew from him so as to extend the duration of the pill to who knows maybe a day or week lol. Also with a new tailor made Shioon pill it could possibly get rid of that prerequisite of having to wait 30 minutes for the pill to activate

@ChaoticKen I know how you feel man especially because my favorite manga is Bleach for which there is no shortage of criticism due to the fact that many people don't like its pacing or the way Kubo handles the story to which I feel that the story and is still moving along smoothly with Kubo dropping here and there some nice subtle things that really add to the story. But again everyone is entitled to their own opinion as well as how they feel about something. I for one felt that the story was moving on to slowly and was being to repetitive but now boy has it busted a 180 on me that's for sure. I feel now that we are really starting to see some nice progress which is great because I'm sure everyone loves seeing progress in a story.

[ChaoticKen]

True, it's not a spoiler discussion, but it's interesting nontheless. I once recall making a point (I think it was right after Breaker ended, though I can't recall if it was simply the release of Volume 10 or if it was when A-Team finished releasing Volume 10) about how New Waves would be more about ShiWoon as opposed to ChunWoo.


But, ultimately, I don't believe the flaws that you pointed out will be a major problem in Part 2. Part 1 was a story about Chunwoo, his pupil Shiwoon and his vengeance. By the end of Part 1, Chunwoo had become the titular Breaker, one would would crush the current Murim. His defeat of the Danju showed his strength in a world that values it, and broke the reputation of the Murim Organization. Furthermore, by allying with the Black Forest, he's working to break the boundary between Murim and normal people - martial artists aren't supposed to display their powers to outsiders, yet the Black Forest are using their abilities on people like drug lords.

But Part 2? That's Shiwoon's story. And as Gyubum says at the very end of Volume 10, we're going to be introduced to a whole new world.

Granted, that was back before New Waves started. Things have changed my perception of things, such as ShiWoon's refusal to become the patriarch of the SunWoo clan. I suppose I just liked sounding flashy. >_>

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I really loved the chapter I thought the last page was badass. I really don't care if the medicine only works for a short time. I've been waiting to see Shioon use his ki and now it is happening. Everyone is going down now and Chang Ho is about to get dominated. I hope we get to see some foot techniques from him since we only got a glimpse of it before his ki center was shattered.

[Miracleomatic]

From how I see it, he will be needing to take those every time he wants to do martial arts. Like I said in the last chapter.

I was thinking that he may not get his ki center fully recovered but at the very least some recovery to the point of being able to use some ki based skills for a few moments. Sort of like a limited ki gathering. It would be too much if he suddenly gained everything back in just a few minutes... If you have read Veritas then its easier to say its a clogged up Ki circulation system. Yeah Yeah.. This must sound ridiculous but people can dream too lol.

Anyhow for him to gain everything back is just too ridiculous. I believe the reason he can use martial arts after using the pill would be because of the blood transfusion. In part 1, when he ingested the pill, his body accumilated ki and was able to perform ki based attacks without actually initiating it.
http://www.mangareader.net/530-30473-7/the-breaker/chapter-19.html.
http://www.mangareader.net/530-30477-11/the-breaker/chapter-23.html
Since the blood carries the ki then perhaps by having a blood transfusion he attains blood with no ki (like a blank sheet of paper) in which he can infuse new ki.
http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/4
By doing this, he can again do ki based techniques but ofcourse since his ki-center is broken.... the effects would only be temporary. So if he needs to do martial arts again, he must repeat this process each single time. That is what I believe. There isn't really any concrete proof on this. It is only speculation.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

From how I see it, he will be needing to take those every time he wants to do martial arts. Like I said in the last chapter.


Anyhow for him to gain everything back is just too ridiculous. I believe the reason he can use martial arts after using the pill would be because of the blood transfusion. In part 1, when he ingested the pill, his body accumilated ki and was able to perform ki based attacks without actually initiating it.
http://www.mangareader.net/530-30473-7/the-breaker/chapter-19.html.
http://www.mangareader.net/530-30477-11/the-breaker/chapter-23.html
Since the blood carries the ki then perhaps by having a blood transfusion he attains blood with no ki (like a blank sheet of paper) in which he can infuse new ki.
http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/4
By doing this, he can again do ki based techniques but ofcourse since his ki-center is broken.... the effects would only be temporary. So if he needs to do martial arts again, he must repeat this process each single time. That is what I believe. There isn't really any concrete proof on this. It is only speculation.

I understand that he getting everything back with just this one pill is ridiculous, but I wouldn't want him to be overly dependant on the pill and need help every time he wants to fight. But I was pretty sure he didn't get a blood tranfusion? I thought he was donating blood? I could be mistaken though.

[prodigy7443]

I feel that the pill will only work for a short amount of time because of the words of the doctor telling him to eat this before the match. If it were permanent the he could just eat it now and still be able to use martial arts so i guess no final fix.

Also just wanted to chime in on the discussion of the haters. The thing that I always wondered is, even though I am always reluctant to suggest this, why do you still read the manga/manhwa if you hate it so much. I never like saying that because it subtracts from the buyers and fans ( I use this word loosely) and we all know what that means ( no more veritas :-( ). But, at this point i think the breaker is well enough established that it could take it if a few people stop reading. And you complain, in my opinion, about nothing. you say its repetitive. would you rather it be sporadic with a in coherent that makes no sense. And what honestly is being repeated. Shioon being beat up. you go to one manga/manhwa where the main character isnt getting their ass handed to them at least 10 time. so please just type your comments in a word document but dont post them because we honestly are really tired of them.

[ChaoticKen]

The way I perceived it, ShiWoon was giving blood as payment for the doctor's help. Hence him asking if it was alright for the doctor to just take the blood he'd given, considering that they were in a blood donation car thingamabob. I'm given to understand that in real life, blood donations go to people in need of blood, not scruffy doctor people.

[scav]

it's not ridiculous, to begin with he got KI thank to a pill. But as i see it, he will keep using the pill, every time he need it. And little by little his KI center will recover, till a moment that he won't need to take a pill.

[Miracleomatic]

Oh crap.. You're right. Looks like he was giving the blood. *Face Palm (Embarassing moment lol)*

[Edit]
I guess the blood don't got nothing to do with it. Well I was wrong on that.

By the way I recall the process to use ki was... Ki herding > Ki Distribution > Exerting Inner Power. I guess it safe to say that by taking a spirit medicine, You can skip process 1 and 2 and head straight to 3 due to the nature of the medicine. Unless if the amount of ki was too much like the One Moon spirit medicine that Ki distribution was needed.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

Oh crap.. You're right. Looks like he was giving the blood. *Face Palm (Embarassing moment lol)*

Ah, don't worry. We all make mistakes from time to time.

[NAM61]

hope the pill gets explained wonder how it works and if it is temporary or permanent. next chapter should be great time for shioon to kick but

[shakes12]

i think the pills forms a new ki centre, that why it take 30 mins to work( just guessess mate)

[TheMoa]

A do not believe that this pill will restore his ki center. The doctor said that with the he could use martial arts, but restoring a ki center isn't easy... and eating a pill is just too easy for me. I believe that it will help his body to produce ki for a few hours.

To restore his ki center he'll need to receive some rare and difficult treatment.

[halfcrzy]

Wow I tried to stay up for the raw, but I'm glad I saw the scan first. Wow. Just wow I was almost drooling. I can't wait for next chapter. Shioon asking for 30mins was pretty funny. And him getting up with a bloody smile gave me chills of it's pt1 all over again

[revennge]

Wow, this gets better with every week. Seriously, Jinie disappeared and now plot moves forward fast, really fast. About the pill thing. I see the whole thing in this way. Nobody can heal Shioons Ki-center besides himself. Doctor only gave a small boost to his Ki with pill and eventually it would heal itself with time. The process could be slow so it could be that Shioon could be dependent on those pills or should i say candies, because they look like them.

As for the next weeks chapter. I could see the chapter starting with ChangHo standing and wondering where are the SUC guys. Then he turns around and see both guys flying at him at the same time! After that Shioon comes out and says that now he will show true GMR martial arts. ;D That would be sooo epic!

[ErosVp]

When I was reading and waiting the fight the doctor said "30 minutes"... What came in my mind was 'What the fuck! Shioon is dead now'. But the end was pretty cool, looks like we will finally see Shioon act like a man (like Chunwoo).
It would be too easy if the treatment was only a magical pill, it will be something longer and more complex...

I understand your complaints guys, but this way Los will ashamed to appear again. This is bullying! Haha

[BBB Banana]

Good chapter can't wait for next one :D

I wonder if the Pill has any secondary effects :\
It seems way to easy for him to regain his powers with no cost at all :o

[Droker]

I'm thinking that the pill is going to be something he has to take over time to allow his ki center to recover as it'd allowing him to do some ki herding and since he already has an astounding recovery ability due to his body already being infused with so much ki that I'd say over the next 10 or so chapters we'll see his ki center begin to recover without the pill (as in he gets into a huge fight, the pill's effects run out and in a moment of desperation he starts using his own ki) so that it's gradual. However, I wouldn't mind if this pill and perhaps 2 or 3 more would heal his ki center enough so that it naturally recovers to full strength on it's own considering he has such a large amount of ki, arguably more than anyone except 9ad or (forget his name) the new leader of the alliance. I know there is no evidence to back that up but we can speculate due to his recovery ability and the length of time he can use massive ki consuming techniques. Just my humble opinion lol.

[LoS]

I understand your complaints guys, but this way Los will ashamed to appear again. This is bullying! Haha

Naw, cuz I could care less what Chicken thinks of my sarcastic post, or any other of you for that matter. He's obviously mad. Look at the massive post he typed up lol.

Doesn't change that it's the same shit a different day. Running away and getting beat on. The only difference is there is a time limit attached of 30 minutes.

Why would I be ashamed, what I typed up happened, and has been happening this entire second part. When Shioon actually did something productive a few chapters back I predicted he wouldn't and it would be more of the same. Well guess what, he punched the dude, and I owned up to it. Which is more than I can say for some people.

[halfcrzy]

Hey hey guys lets all calm down! This chapter was awesome and there hardly anyone talkin about it. LoS has a point. He does do alot of running away, but haha its become to regular you just take it at face value. Chaotic has a point that alot of people bitch when they probably shouldnt based at the amount of time the author has had to work with this manga and what he has accomplished with it. We should all be happy for breaker, and bitch about bleach! (sorry to the bleach fans, you are, our sacrificial lamb)

[ErosVp]

This chapter was really good, but this is rare these days... Mainly because Shioon is too gay. It's a manhwa about martial arts and he tried not to fight and interruped other people fight more than anything!
Chunwoo was a good protagonist. What is the matter in killing someone who wants to kill you or just beat them up?

[Charlie]

Chang Ho's gone all Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee on us. Jumping out cars.

That was pretty cool but not only that, he used his head and cut Shioon off before he could gain more time or escape.

The last part was nice, Shioon remembering what having "power" felt like.

I hope that he will be able to use some of his ki without getting beat up too much.

Its about time that he admits that he hungers to be powerful once again.

[vongola_x]

As others have stated above, I doubt the pill is a one-stop shop for fixing his ki center. It could easily be a limited source of artificial ki that Shioon can use, though I do imagine that it would have a nasty side effect or two. He'll demolish some of the fodder in the next chapter, but I don't think he gets to Chang until 35 or so.

Also, just as a random note, does anyone else find it entertaining that Shioon is now the one fighting with a broken arm similar to how Goomoonryong was in the last series?

[Charlie]

As others have stated above, I doubt the pill is a one-stop shop for fixing his ki center. It could easily be a limited source of artificial ki that Shioon can use, though I do imagine that it would have a nasty side effect or two. He'll demolish some of the fodder in the next chapter, but I don't think he gets to Chang until 35 or so.

Also, just as a random note, does anyone else find it entertaining that Shioon is now the one fighting with a broken arm similar to how Goomoonryong was in the last series?

He does not need artificial ki - since he is a walking ki god. I assume for the time being that medicine somehow will allow him for a short period to bring-out / release whats been trapped inside his body.

I can also see the point of side effects but I hope that wont be the case.

I want to avoid the recent cliches from recent manga series. Kind of tired with all that mumbo jumbo.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

Naw, cuz I could care less what Chicken thinks of my sarcastic post, or any other of you for that matter. He's obviously mad. Look at the massive post he typed up lol.

Doesn't change that it's the same shit a different day. Running away and getting beat on. The only difference is there is a time limit attached of 30 minutes.

Why would I be ashamed, what I typed up happened, and has been happening this entire second part. When Shioon actually did something productive a few chapters back I predicted he wouldn't and it would be more of the same. Well guess what, he punched the dude, and I owned up to it. Which is more than I can say for some people.

I'm pretty sure he's mad because your complaints are basically the same every chapter (despite the chapters differing from time to time) and much more repetitive than the repetitive plot (to you). Okay, I understand that you are dissatisfied with the manhwa, but repeating the same old complaints week in, week out, and criticizing the manhwa's next chapter before it is even released kind of get tiring and gets on people's nerves, doesn't it? Especially when ChaoticKen spent so much time and effort translating the text for us because of his love for the manhwa, I'm pretty sure he'll be annoyed with people slamming the manhwa instead of appreciating it...

And no, you admitted it yourself that what you typed did not happen and has not been happening the entire second part. Most of your predictions have sadly missed the mark and you still insist that the chapter was predictable and repetitive. Which kind of takes away most of your credibility. Sure, you admitted that you made mistakes, but asserting that the manhwa is still predictable despite your inaccurate predictions kind of pushes that down and renders that noble act useless. Basically, you look like you are nitpicking, and nitpicking is frowned upon by most people.

Don't get me wrong, you are entitled to complain and I mean no offense. But it's just that after so many complaints you are more annoying to most people here than the manhwa is annoying to you. I hope you understand. If you want to complain, do it in moderation, and not every chapter or before every chapter is released. If you own up that you made a mistake in your predictions, don't add a "but it's still repetitive/predictable/boring" or "it still has been done before" after that and waste your admission. It sounds like you are nitpicking. I don't think you are mean or hateful or rude, but I'm pretty sure this is why people like ChaoticKen are annoyed with you.


This chapter was really good, but this is rare these days... Mainly because Shioon is too gay. It's a manhwa about martial arts and he tried not to fight and interruped other people fight more than anything!
Chunwoo was a good protagonist. What is the matter in killing someone who wants to kill you or just beat them up?

Like I said before, this manhwa is not simply about martial arts. If you think the manhwa should just be about Shioon beating up people and getting into fights like Oga Tatsumi from Beelzebub, you are missing the point and underlying themes of the manhwa. The author is trying to portray that Shioon has changed since The Breaker (part 1) and has gained something much more valuable than martial arts. I think some people will be annoyed with me ranting in another wall of text so I beseech you to read my earlier post. Sorry, and thanks.

[k-dom]

If you are annoyed by LoS posts that much why don't you put him on your ignore list. Everyone will be happy and it will save us to read a wall of ranting which basically is the same one than your previous post.

I hope that after the fight we will have more information about the pill, not only if it permanent but also how it affects Shioon ki center. Why does it allow to use martial art again. It was a bit short in this chapter, but well Shioon didn't even give the doctor time to say it took 30' in order to be effective...
Anyway even if he get rid of Chang Ho easily, i don't think he is at the level for SUC masters. Will he starts an anti SUC organization ?

[LoS]

I'm pretty sure he's mad because your complaints are basically the same every chapter (despite the chapters differing from time to time) and much more repetitive than the repetitive plot (to you).

lol, some people need to man the cluck up. If a simple sarcastic line peevs you then the internet isn't for you.


and criticizing the manhwa's next chapter before it is even released kind of get tiring and gets on people's nerves, doesn't it?

did this one time, and owned up to it. Get it straight. Also check out the title of the thread...... yeah


And no, you admitted it yourself that what you typed did not happen and has not been happening the entire second part. Most of your predictions have sadly missed the mark and you still insist that the chapter was predictable and repetitive.

Bwhahaha, You are WRONG. I don't really even make predictions. I leave that for the one kid who always goes line by line detailed predictions. I haven't missed one much at all to be honest. Just that one punch. My credibility, who the hell are you? And what are you talking about. Go reread the chapters. Shioon gets beat on and runs away, ALOT.


But it's just that after so many complaints you are more annoying to most people here than the manhwa is annoying to you.

My one complaint which has never changed? That Shioon gets beat on and nothing else, he runs away all the time? That one?

How about, once that doesn't happen anymore then I will stop. That way I know that the creator is actually being creative and using his brain,

[TomoyukiTanaka]

lol, some people need to man the cluck up. If a simple sarcastic line peevs you then the internet isn't for you.

I don't really mind, since I believe you are entitled your own opinion. A few sarcastic lines are okay, but I think too many will be annoying.


did this one time, and owned up to it. Get it straight. Also check out the title of the thread...... yeah

Exactly, the thread is predictions, not bashing or criticism. I don't mind if you make predictions, but you don't have to bash it while at it.


Bwhahaha, You are WRONG. I don't really even make predictions. I leave that for the one kid who always goes line by line detailed predictions. I haven't missed one much at all to be honest. Just that one punch. My credibility, who the hell are you? And what are you talking about.

I'm pretty sure you have always been predicting, but maybe I'm wrong about this. Sorry. Weren't you the one who said something about raging if the author does something like getting someone to save Shioon from his fight with Jigun, but in the end Shioon "defeated" Jigun and sent him packing anyway? Never mind, I think it's my mistake here. Sorry.


Go reread the chapters. Shioon gets beat on and runs away, ALOT.My one complaint which has never changed? That Shioon gets beat on and nothing else, he runs away all the time? That one?

And when did that happened? Just this once? He didn't run away from Jigun. Hell, he didn't even run away from the dragon sword school while Jinie was saving him (he even threw his shoe at the guy to distract him). And while he did run away from the fat guy before Changho, he didn't get beaten up but ended up owning the guy. And round 1 with Changho, which you admitted yourself, he landed a punch on the toothless guy (too bad he didn't knock out more of his teeth while at it) before running away. So that makes it only once that it happened? I guess you need to reread the chapters instead of me.


How about, once that doesn't happen anymore then I will stop. That way I know that the creator is actually being creative and using his brain,

It only happened once...? I gave the examples above, and I haven't seen him running away and getting beaten up all the time. Yes, at times he makes a tactical retreat but he doesn't get beaten up except for this chapter. And at times he does get beaten up it's because he walked straight into the fight (against Jigun for example) instead of running away from it. So your complaint isn't merited, which is exactly why ChaoticKen is annoyed with you.

Sorry, k-dom, for the wall of ranting. I won't do it again.

[Hiro Hayase]

Shioon asking for 30 mins was a classic lol. :D Then Shiion at that last page with his body all bloodied and uttering "Ah here we go again" and "I almost forgot this feeling..." I had chills down my spine. I'm hoping that Changho's superiors watch this fight in the next chapter. :amuse

Also, I knew it! The doctor did take Shioon's blood as payment! Btw now that Jinie and Saehee are out of the picture, the plot finally moves!

The drug that Shioon took could potentially speed up his regeneration abilities which in turn could revive his damaged/broken ki-center. The doctor could also make more powerful drugs out of Shioon's blood samples too. Whether Shioon's ki-center is completely destroyed or partially by 9AD, either one could be true. Or that 9AD did destroy his ki-center, but Shioon slowly regenerates it. Although, that's just speculation on my part.

Shioon has not been beaten up without a purpose throughout TB:NW (The Breaker: New Waves). Every time Shioon was castigated, there was a reason for it. For example: Ji-gun wanted to test Shioon and see if he was part of the S.U.C. Elder Kang-Ro was under orders from Elder Kwon to make Shioon give up the match during they're intensive training program. Shioon may have been beaten up during the match with Ji-gun, but he still manages to send Ji-gun flying with one accurate hit. Battered Shioon even stands up to Gang-ha-ill. I repeat these lines again: This manwha is about Shioon gaining something more important than martial arts, its his courage and spirit that he learned from 9AD. That's the overall message I see anyways.

LoS what are you complaining about? What's your point? This is a martial arts manga, it would even stranger if Shioon never gets beat up. He is after-all a complete novice in regards to the murim world and fighting still. He has only studied martial arts for like 1-2 months now. The Breaker manwha may have taken a few years to finish, but in the world of The Breaker: New Waves only 1-2 months have passed. Your expectations for Shioon is unreasonable. How long did it take for 9AD to get the level that he's at? A good amount of years. But on the other hand Shioon pulled off some remarkable feats throughout both manwha's with or without his ki-center. Although, Shioon's feats are usually dwarfed in comparison to 9AD, but nevertheless impressive. Los, if you really intend to defend your stance, then it would wise and credible if you bring up actually examples to support your claims.

Historys Strongest Disciple Kenichi is good example to use here. At first Kenichi was frequently castigated and bullied, and he also run away from trouble. However, as time goes on in the mange, Kenichi matures into a courageous and strong spirited fighter. Kenichi's situation is very similar to Shioon's in TB:NW.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

Shioon asking for 30 mins was a classic lol. :D Then Shiion at that last page with his body all bloodied and uttering "Ah here we go again" and "I almost forgot this feeling..." I have chills down my spine. I'm hoping that Changho's superiors watch this fight in the next chapter. :amuse

Also, I knew it! The doctor did take Shioon's blood as payment! Btw now that Jinie and Saehee are out of the picture, the plot finally moves!

The drug that Shioon took could potentially speed up his regeneration abilities which in turn could revive his damaged/broken ki-center. The doctor could also make more powerful drugs out of Shioon's blood samples too. Whether Shioon's ki-center is completely destroyed or partially by 9AD, either one could be true. Or that 9AD did destroy his ki-center, but Shioon slowly regenerates it. Although, thats just speculation on my part.

Shioon has not been beaten up without a purpose throughout TB:NW (The Breaker: New Waves). Every time Shioon was castigated, there was a reason for it. For example: Ji-gun wanted to test Shioon and see if he was part of the S.U.C. Elder Kang-Ro was under orders from Elder Kwon to make Shioon give up the match during they're intensive training program. Shioon may have been beaten up during the match with Ji-gun, but he still manages to send Ji-gun flying with one accurate hit. Battered Shioon even stands up to Gang-ha-ill. I repeat these lines again: This manwha is about Shioon gaining something more important than martial arts, its his courage and spirit that he learned from 9AD.

I completely agree with you despite our signatures saying we are enemies. :D

In any case I wonder about the regeneration thing. It could follow the Tsukune route from Rosario + Vampire where Shioon does need the medicine every time he wants to fight, but after taking it a few times, it kind of stays in his blood stream like Moka's vampire blood in Tsunkune and he no longer needs to eat it? That would be cool, I hope?

[kidopitz27]

wow LoS just caught a lot of fish on his flamebait :P

well we cannot blame him after the 1st part of breaker Shioon always run,run,run and always saying that he is not a murim anymore but guess what Sera shove it on Shioon's ass when he said the S.U.C thinks he is still in murim and saying "this is my master's will so i will stick to it but when he decided to train under Elder Kwon that means he already broke his promise to GMR so Shioon should stop running away (Sera is saying that Shioon should start to man up to protect his love ones or else) that's why he decided to fight which is a good thing and i hope in the next chapter we will see another Soul Crushing Strike but the receivers end is Chung-Ho and Shioon will be saying this is what a real SCS is you fake! hahahahahahaha (RANT THREAD ANYONE?)

[TomoyukiTanaka]

the 1st part of breaker Shioon always run,run,run and always saying that he is not a murim anymore but guess what Sera shove it on Shioon's ass when he said the S.U.C thinks he is still in murim and saying "this is my master's will so i will stick to it but when he decided to train under Elder Kwon that means he already broke his promise to GMR so Shioon should stop running away (Sera is saying that Shioon should start to man up to protect his love ones or else) that's why he decided to fight which is a good thing and i hope in the next chapter we will see another Soul Crushing Strike but the receivers end is Chung-Ho and Shioon will be saying this is what a real SCS is you fake! hahahahahahaha (RANT THREAD ANYONE?)

Was he actually running? He did insist that he isn't a murim anymore and refused to fight, but the only time I saw him running away was against the fat guy and now Changho.

And don't worry...I fear I have ranted more than you.

[Hiro Hayase]

Hahaha oh yeah our signatures are the opposites. Well the regeneration theory does have some credible backing though, Shioon's zombie healing abilities. The Tsukune route, ehh? I never thought about comparing Rosario+Vampire with TB:NW, they are worlds apart lol. Although, it is interesting that whenever Shioon takes the medicine that he swallowed in this chapter, he powers up a bit after every usage. That's plausible.

That dark doctor is both mysterious and insightful, so I wouldn't put it past him to come up something far more thrilling than the above mentioned theory. Hopefully.


@kidopitz27 I wouldn't say Shioon is exactly running away in New Waves, but its more like Shioon is waaaaay too stubborn and determined to uphold 9AD wishes for him not to be part of the murim world. Shioon reluctantly wanted to learn from the Sunwo clan out of self-defense and to protect 9AD's honor. Basically, what Sera said was that even if Shioon decides to fight back or not, the S.U.C will go after him regardless because they consider Shioon's existence an obstacle to their plans. Also, Shioon finally does realize that S.U.C. is dangerous when he gets ambushed by the fat guy, and even realizes that he's been too dependent on Jinie, Sunwo, and the martial arts alliance for protection and security. It wasn't exactly Sera's words that did the trick, but a whole range of factors that led Shioon making a decision.

Shioon trained under Elder Kang-Ro, not Elder Kwon. Elder Kwon is Jinie's manipulative grandpa.






P.S. Not many people notice this, but many of Shioon's fights in both manwha's were out of self-defense or defending 9AD's honor. Shioon does lose his cool a bit whenever 9AD gets ridiculed, for example when Ji-gun mocked 9AD and Shioon was trembling with fury/anger.

Also, I would like to add how wonderful it is seeing the forums so active lately.

[Host Samurai]

Just wow, this chapter was really good. And I especially like the fact that Shioon will be able to use his techniques with ki again. I see a parallel there, in part 1 of the breaker Shioon got his powers because of Changho bullying him. And now in part 2 Shioon will probably get his powers back because of him again, even if it's only temporarily.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Will he starts an anti SUC organization ?

Not exactly. More like he will join one. Shioon can't fight SUC all alone/without any backing and unfortuantely, he can't bring the Sunwoo Clan into this because that'd risk worsening the situation. But... Ji-Gun was mentioned to be organizing a group that can fight against SUC, so that's what Shioon'll need. Luckily for him, Ji-Gun actually needs Shioon, too. Not specifically because of his strenght, but because Shioon will lend legitimacy to his group, as such. The true disciple of Goomoonryong against fake disciples of Goomoonryong? That's something that can win support for his group. Plus, of course, Shioon is charismatic enough on his own, and by joining him/having Shioon join him, Ji-Gun can also indirectly benefit from the Sunwoo clan's help as well as the help of Sera (who's now in subservience to the Sunwoo Clan). Yes, you may point out that as I said, the Sunwoo clan can't help and that's true, they can't help...Directly, that's it. But indirectly, by providing things such as intel and the like? That might be another matter...

[kidopitz27]

Shioon trained under Elder Kang-Ro, not Elder Kwon. Elder Kwon is Jinie's manipulative grandpa.

but Elder Kwon is the first one to suggest that they can't teach Shioon Sunwoo clan techs if he still follow GMR and thus breaks his vow to not associate to murim .if he become the clan head and that is the start of Shioon going away on what he stated that he will not become a murim he also stated that he will become a clan head to Elder Kang-ro stating that if they like a clan head who runs away

the problem with Shioon is his f*cking pride and stubbornness he always thinks that the world revolves around him and if he ignore the murim things his love ones will be spared (well he is the protagonist on this manhwa :P)

and this weeks chapter is good and i think it's great(on the storyline) but the bad part around this chapter is the line that Shioon said "can you wait 30 minutes?" some say its hilarious but for me it destroy the feeling of action that line alone destroyed the settings on this chapter all of the pages are serious then is that an ice breaker? or something? i like the last page but seriously? Shioon needs to get beaten up
again (chang-ho beating him up for school money),
again(Hyuk So-Chun beating the crap out of him)
again,(when he rescuing Sosul Ma Mun-Gi's subordinates drag him on their motorcycle)
again(Yi Gyu-Bum beating him up) ,
again (Yoo Ji-Gun beating him up) ,
again (i'll include elder Kang-ro) and
again this time is Chung-ho

it;s getting repetitive and i hope Shioon's next fight will be not "Shioon get beat up and then power up like son goku and beat the enemy" or "Shioon got beat up and stand again and harass the crap out of his enemy and get beat up again" kind of fight this repeatition shows that shioon is still weak and he thinks that courage to fight is a good thing but Shiho stated that "after you eat the Dan your view of the world will be different" and maybe she is referring to the world of murim he ate the Dan because he wants to get stronger and maybe this chapter is showing that after he regained his "Ki back temporarily" he will get cocky like GMR when he is under Unwol "is it possible to know the truth without challenging it first?" Live Curious (i saw it on NGC and i think its good)

[TomoyukiTanaka]

Shioon needs to get beaten up
again (chang-ho beating him up for school money),
again(Hyuk So-Chun beating the crap out of him)
again,(when he rescuing Sosul Ma Mun-Gi's subordinates drag him on their motorcycle)
again(Yi Gyu-Bum beating him up) ,
again (Yoo Ji-Gun beating him up) ,
again (i'll include elder Kang-ro) and
again this time is Chung-ho

it;s getting repetitive.

Well considering he took about 1 to 2 months to learn martial arts, did you think he could suddenly win against Hyuk So Chun, who was the head of the Heavenly Moon school and a prodigy? Against Ma Gun Gi and the subordinates who were under the alliance (I think) and hence training for years? Against Yi Gyu-Bum, who was one of the FOUR SUPERNOVAS, four elite martial artists famed for their skills? Against Yoo Ji-Gun, the prodigy who supposedly reached the highest level of his sword techniques to the point he could use his finger as his sword? Aganst Elder Kang-ro (even this is contentable) with a BROKEN KI CENTER?

And he hasn't even started fighting Chang Ho yet and you guys are saying how he got beaten by him? It was only one punch, and if you forgot Shioon landed a similar punch on Chang Ho's face last chapter. In fights, people are bound to get hit. Just because Shioon gets hit doesn't mean he's down. It would be ridiculous if he won the fight without Changho landing a single hit on him.

That said, what if it was like Fairy Tail and Shioon won every one of those fights? Wouldn't that be repetitive too? Is it only repetitive when he loses or does that apply to when he's winning too?

[prodigy7443]

That said, what if it was like Fairy Tail and Shioon won every one of those fights?

hey dont bring Fairy Tail in to this!! i am just sick of people complaining about these manga/manhwa in general.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

hey dont bring Fairy Tail in to this!! i am just sick of people complaining about these manga/manhwa in general.

I am not complaining, though. I like them the way they are.

[k-dom]

I don't think the fight against Chung-ho will be difficult. After this chapter, I'm more imagining a 1 punch KO scenario.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

I don't imagine the fight against Chung-ho being difficult. After this chapter, I'm more imagining a 1 punch KO scenario.

Amen to that. Plus Chang Ho losing the rest of his teeth as well. Now that would be epic.

But what I'm looking forward to is the aftermath of the fight. The SUC will sit up and start taking action now that Shioon has defeated one of their mad dogs.

[scav]

damn long post are long :faint
anyway something came in my mind concerning the SUC. I think they also developed some pill to give KI to commons people. But not a pill like the one that shioon took, but a weaker one, that just give a little amount of KI. They gather mad people, they give them a pill, they tell them that they are nine dragon etc..... and they teach them fews move.

[Host Samurai]

Amen to that. Plus Chang Ho losing the rest of his teeth as well. Now that would be epic.

But what I'm looking forward to is the aftermath of the fight. The SUC will sit up and start taking action now that Shioon has defeated one of their mad dogs.

I for one really hope that after this clash with Chang Ho that Shioon, will admit or realize that he needs to be a Murim in order to protect his loved ones. Because his stubbornness or running away won't get him anywhere, he needs to establish himself in the Murim world.

[Hiro Hayase]

but Elder Kwon is the first one to suggest that they can't teach Shioon Sunwoo clan techs if he still follow GMR and thus breaks his vow to not associate to murim .if he become the clan head and that is the start of Shioon going away on what he stated that he will not become a murim he also stated that he will become a clan head to Elder Kang-ro stating that if they like a clan head who runs away

the problem with Shioon is his f*cking pride and stubbornness he always thinks that the world revolves around him and if he ignore the murim things his love ones will be spared (well he is the protagonist on this manhwa :P)

and this weeks chapter is good and i think it's great(on the storyline) but the bad part around this chapter is the line that Shioon said "can you wait 30 minutes?" some say its hilarious but for me it destroy the feeling of action that line alone destroyed the settings on this chapter all of the pages are serious then is that an ice breaker? or something? i like the last page but seriously? Shioon needs to get beaten up
again (chang-ho beating him up for school money),
again(Hyuk So-Chun beating the crap out of him)
again,(when he rescuing Sosul Ma Mun-Gi's subordinates drag him on their motorcycle)
again(Yi Gyu-Bum beating him up) ,
again (Yoo Ji-Gun beating him up) ,
again (i'll include elder Kang-ro) and
again this time is Chung-ho

it;s getting repetitive and i hope Shioon's next fight will be not "Shioon get beat up and then power up like son goku and beat the enemy" or "Shioon got beat up and stand again and harass the crap out of his enemy and get beat up again" kind of fight this repeatition shows that shioon is still weak and he thinks that courage to fight is a good thing but Shiho stated that "after you eat the Dan your view of the world will be different" and maybe she is referring to the world of murim he ate the Dan because he wants to get stronger and maybe this chapter is showing that after he regained his "Ki back temporarily" he will get cocky like GMR when he is under Unwol "is it possible to know the truth without challenging it first?" Live Curious (i saw it on NGC and i think its good)

I mentioned in an earlier post on page 5, that there was a purpose for Shioon getting beaten up throughout both manwha's. About Shioon being castigated by Ma Mun-Gi's subordinates, he had the option of handing over Sosul and running away by himself, however Shioon decided to runaway with Sosul. Shioon made a choice and that resulted in him being bruised up by the more experienced murim people. At that point in time, Shioon barely learned any martial arts from 9AD yet; no foot techniques or lighting strike. How was Shioon not supposed to be uninjured in these circumstances? Best option for a novice would be to run away. Moreover, Shioon did get a good kick at Ma Mun-Gi (nosed ringed, fish face guy) and he promised that old man from Sunwo that he would safeguard that package (Sosul).

The incident at the bridge highlighted Shioon's courageous action, that incident was also how he first entered the murim world.

Chang-ho didn't really mess up Shioon in New Waves. All he did was attempt to intimate Shioon using his former bully status and landed one punch on him in chapter 32.

If you look at this manwha or any other work in a critical or spiteful manner, then your view will be critical or spiteful. Read it in a light-hearted manner without any expectations. Afterall, manwha is meant for entertainment purposes.


damn long post are long :faint
anyway something came in my mind concerning the SUC. I think they also developed some pill to give KI to commons people. But not a pill like the one that shioon took, but a weaker one, that just give a little amount of KI. They gather mad people, they give them a pill, they tell them that they are nine dragon etc..... and they teach them fews move.

True, the S.U.C. might be making similar drugs that the doctor gave to Shioon. I haven't even thought of that possibility, nice catch! :amuse

[matzik1212]

sweet :D i'm glad this chapter wasn't about jinie and yessss it seems we will soon get to see shioon in his good days again :)
now i hope this whole thing ,i mean shioon's last words of this chapter which gave us so many hopes :zomg doesn't prove to be just a bluff :( that would really suck .....i wanna see chang ho getting his ass kicked asap 'cause lately he's too full of himself and that gets on my nerves :mad

[passenger]

damn long post are long :faint
anyway something came in my mind concerning the SUC. I think they also developed some pill to give KI to commons people. But not a pill like the one that shioon took, but a weaker one, that just give a little amount of KI. They gather mad people, they give them a pill, they tell them that they are nine dragon etc..... and they teach them fews move.

yeah narcotic drugs have a general effect like that . considering their nonsense like GMR is god and world domination they are either mentally challenged or high :)

joke aside I also agree with you, generally you have to start learning martial arts at a young age according to eastern literature . But these guys (especially ones like chan-go) can use ki fairly easily.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I think what will happen next is Shioon is going to use another foot teachnique and end up behind those two and Changho will ask what is taking so long at which point the two skeletons coming flying out and land at Chango Hos feet and then watch badass shioon pose with his intense eyes :O.

[kidopitz27]

i hope Shioon to get beaten up again because of that last page and i think he is getting cocky on that last part that he missed that feeling and i hope when he tries to punch Soul Crashing Strike it will fail because the pill just give him temporary Ki and it's not enough to produce the necessary ki to use SCS (SCS uses a lot of Spiritual Ki that mean the user can only use it a number of times because it will deplete your KI ) and then Shioon will get beaten up again :P

and another question that eluded me for a while the doctor said to the elder that it will take at least a day to Shioon to recover from his injuries right? but there are 2 types of injuries external and internal and on the last fight with Yoo Ji-Gun. Yoo Ji-Gun broke Shioon's Rib can the Dan heal those kind of injuries? or just External injuries?

i think the Doctor gave Shioon that pill is like a AAA battery and it will just give Shioon a small boost of power while the Dan that Shioon ate on the first breaker is like a Satellite on outer space that use Solar energy and it never runs out of energy

[Hiro Hayase]

i hope Shioon to get beaten up again because of that last page and i think he is getting cocky on that last part that he missed that feeling and i hope when he tries to punch Soul Crashing Strike it will fail because the pill just give him temporary Ki and it's not enough to produce the necessary ki to use SCS (SCS uses a lot of Spiritual Ki that mean the user can only use it a number of times because it will deplete your KI ) and then Shioon will get beaten up again :P

and another question that eluded me for a while the doctor said to the elder that it will take at least a day to Shioon to recover from his injuries right? but there are 2 types of injuries external and internal and on the last fight with Yoo Ji-Gun. Yoo Ji-Gun broke Shioon's Rib can the Dan heal those kind of injuries? or just External injuries?

i think the Doctor gave Shioon that pill is like a AAA battery and it will just give Shioon a small boost of power while the Dan that Shioon ate on the first breaker is like a Satellite on outer space that use Solar energy and it never runs out of energy

Shioon really doesn't seem cocky in that last page. I mean from my impression, it doesn't even look like Shioon is smiling at the end there. It's more like Shioon is regretting taking this course of action like his usual self. (Its like Layfon Alseif from Chrome Shelled Regios, whenever Layfon uses ki, his body feels this nostalgic feeling. This feeling is what Layfon resents. Shioon probably has the same feelings as Layfon when using ki, although I could be completely wrong on this).

I'm sure there is a limit to what the drug/pill that swallowed can do. It might even turnout that it doesn't last very long, maybe it lasts 10 mins or 1 hour, we don't know yet.

Most severe injuries that Shioon's ki-infused body receives will be healed in half a day. (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/17/17)

Well according to the latest chapter, Shioon's able to outrun the S.U.C. underlings without his ki-center intact. Shioon's ki-fused is not exactly...normal. (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/14)

[Jammin]

Nice, the chapter i've been waiting for.:D

I'm really hoping we get to see Shioon cut loose a little. Shake some of the rust off his old Ki skills. The best way to get those goofballs chasing him to recognize that they aren't the real deal is to show them what the real deal looks like.

I highly doubt that he's even close to 100% but he has been able to put up rather respectable fights without Ki lately, so even with a little bit he should be able to completely blow these jokers away.

[kidopitz27]

Most severe injuries that Shioon's ki-infused body receives will be healed in half a day. (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/17/17)


what i'm saying is this one (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/20/17) can Shioon's Dan heals that kind of injuries because all of Shioon's injuries are all external like slashed or gashed and he bleeds like hell or the author of this manhwa will bring that injury up in some chapters slowing Shioon down

[Charlie]

@ Sena Hayase: I got the impression from the chapter that he was feeling rather nostalgic. Remembering what it felt like to be powerful.
Not being cocky but enjoying the rush or adrenaline from that.

[Hiro Hayase]

what i'm saying is this one (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/20/17) can Shioon's Dan heals that kind of injuries because all of Shioon's injuries are all external like slashed or gashed and he bleeds like hell or the author of this manhwa will bring that injury up in some chapters slowing Shioon down

I'm going assume yes since Shioon has been injured way worse in breaker part 1. Whether its external or internal injuries Shioon's ki-infused body heals all without discrimination. He may have lost his ki-center and ability to use ki for the moment, but his regenerative powers still remain intact. I can recall a time in breaker part 1 where 9AD compared Shioon's regenerating abilities to that of a planarian. (http://www.mangareader.net/530-31750-11/the-breaker/chapter-26.html)


@ Sena Hayase: I got the impression from the chapter that he was feeling rather nostalgic. Remembering what it felt like to be powerful. Not being cocky but enjoying the rush or adrenaline from that.

Agreed. It does seem more similar to an adrenaline rush than a display of overwhelming confidence.

[kidopitz27]

I'm going assume yes since Shioon has been injured way worse in breaker part 1. Whether its external or internal injuries Shioon's ki-infused body heals all without discrimination. He may have lost his ki-center and ability to use ki for the moment, his regenerative powers still remain intact. I can recall a time in breaker part 1 where 9AD compared Shioon's regenerating abilities to that of a planarian. (http://www.mangareader.net/530-31750-11/the-breaker/chapter-26.html)

GMR also said that he can't do it alone and on the last part of the breaker Shiho absorbed all of Black heaven Ki on Shioon and give it "BACK"on GMR so the only one that is helping him right now is the dan and if GMR saying is true that if you cut Shioon hand it will grow back Shioon is a hax like Aizen :P

[Miracleomatic]

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/19
When he said "I almost forgot this feeling" I get the impression that he means feeling Ki since he has not used Ki after getting his Ki center broken.

Anyhow after he beats Chang ho and some fodder S.U.C. Do you think the fake Goomoonryong (assuming it is the guy driving) will arrive and face shion? After all they seem to be driving somewhere... http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/12

After rereading the chapters. My mind started thinking of what would unfold later in the story. So far the main groups we know are: S.U.C, Sunwoo clan, Chundomoon clan, Martial Arts alliance and Black Forest group. As we know the S.U.C is growing and gaining power at an alarming rate. The S.U.C wants to break the murim rules and impose terror onto the normal society. While the Sunwoo hates the Martial Arts alliance and plans on revenge... For the Black Forest Ops, we don't really know anything about them except they are helping Goomoonryong cure Sosul of her condition. As it is heading now... It seems likely that there will be an all out war between factions and most likely at the start of that war, Sosul and Goomoonryong will return. Im curious if it will be a massive free for all or battle royale. If Sosul is ever cured, I bet she too will fight.

[NAM61]

shioon was not cocky in the end of the chapter he was just remembering how it felt when he was able to fight. i doubt he will get beaten up he will probably beat the bully and all of the guys with him. the bully will probably try to use his version of SCS and shioon will use the real one to show him the difference.

[thornofcarrion]

I agree, I don't think he was cocky or whatever. He is savouring the feeling he had when his Ki centers weren't destroyed. Chang Ho is gonna find what real 9AD's techniques feels like. The worse however could be, just when Shioon is about to win, the drug effects goes away :wtf.

[Host Samurai]

I agree, I don't think he was cocky or whatever. He is savouring the feeling he had when his Ki centers weren't destroyed. Chang Ho is gonna find what real 9AD's techniques feels like. The worse however could be, just when Shioon is about to win, the drug effects goes away :wtf.

Nah, I personally think that Shioon will beat them down with no effort at all. This way the story will progress and the S.U.C will take things seriously and thus forcing Shioon to Ji Gun to join the anti S.U.C group. :D Since the Martial Arts alliance and the Sunwoo clan are out of the question.

[revennge]

Well, Shioon is not the type to be coocky as he does not boost around that he is GMR disciple and such. He just wants to prove that SUC are imitations and just use GMR's name for influence. At first when I was watching RAW at the daum I thought Shioon was smiling at the last page because of small page details looked different and blood on his upper lip looked like evil smile and looked awesome, but unfortunately that wasn't the case. :darn

About the pill. I thing it's sort of catalyst. As he cannot use his Ki-center and needs to use pill replacement. Pill melts into Shioons blood and he is able to use melted pill as catalyst for unleashing Ki. So I think that it would be different than using Ki-center and Shioon would need some time to adjust to the changes. If not, then SUC and ChangHo are in for some ass whooping. ( The SUC better start goddamn worship Shioon :worship2 ) :tem

As for the after effects of Shioon's "today". I think he would get even more deep s**t. As SUC would constantly observe him and such. Sera said that "Smiling Sword" Ji-Gun was gathering anti-SUC group. It would be logical for Shioon to join because he would have support from other martial artists who are against SUC. And with Shioons connections I don't doubt that he could even expand influence of this anti-SUC group. The interesting thing is that if Shioon joined and the group didn't have a name then it could be pretty much named after the second part of The Breaker story. That is New Waves.Possibility, isn't it? :amuse

[matzik1212]

i also want to see shioon fight like he used to but i don't think things will be that easy .....if that were so then what was the point of us waiting so much , basically from the start of this new series , to see him doing martial arts again .....i think he will have some kind of difficulties in adapting to that drug or something , things can't go that easy.... that would be too good to be true :)

[revennge]

i also want to see shioon fight like he used to but i don't think things will be that easy .....if that were so then what was the point of us waiting so much , basically from the start of this new series , to see him doing martial arts again .....i think he will have some kind of difficulties in adapting to that drug or something , things can't go that easy.... that would be too good to be true :)

That depends. Does author wants to torture Shioon any further with his injuries or his role of punching bag for tech.( I have nothing against it.) For some reason I think everything will be fine because doctor did say that after Shioon takes the pill he will be able to use Martial Arts as before. So I don't think there would be any major differences, feel to tech. may be slightly different and thats all...

[scav]

hum i understand now why the doc need shioon's blood.just remembered something.
if you remember in the part 1 of the breaker, when Sosul collapsed. They used shioon's blood to cure her:
http://i13.mangareader.net/the-breaker/28/the-breaker-789782.jpg
http://i9.mangareader.net/the-breaker/28/the-breaker-789783.jpg

they said the medicine of illwallsindan (the pill ) has melted and flow within his blood. So drinking his blood is like taking a strong medicine. I don't know exactly why the doc need Shioon blood but i bet it have something to do with it's medical property

[Hiro Hayase]

hum i understand now why the doc need shioon's blood.just remembered something.
if you remember in the part 1 of the breaker, when Sosul collapsed. They used shioon's blood to cure her:
http://i13.mangareader.net/the-breaker/28/the-breaker-789782.jpg
http://i9.mangareader.net/the-breaker/28/the-breaker-789783.jpg

they said the medicine of illwallsindan (the pill ) has melted and flow within his blood. So drinking his blood is like taking a strong medicine. I don't know exactly why the doc need Shioon blood but i bet it have something to do with it's medical property

Yup, thats why I have a theory that the doctor might create some ill-wallsindan drugs out of Shioon's blood samples or create an imitiation of that ki drug or just plainly want to experiment with it. There's a bunch of possibilities for what could happen.

[bamf]

Yup, thats why I have a theory that the doctor might create some ill-wallsindan drugs out of Shioon's blood samples or create an imitiation of that ki drug or just plainly want to experiment with it. There's a bunch of possibilities for what could happen.

I think that he's just a really nice guy and is hoping to help regular people with Shioon's blood. Perhaps he's keeping it as back-up, in case the S.U.C. reveal the existence of the Murim world and everyone thinks they're universally evil. A few blood transfusions later, and the leader of one of the Murim clans will have cured cancer.

[Bhoot]

Guyz Sosul was cured by Shioon's blood because of her condition which compelled her to have ner movements minimized due to less Ki . Shioon's blood had/has high concentration of it . Shioon does not have that deficiency ppl ... his blood wont work for him .

[revennge]

One thing got me thinking. How the hell did ChangHo punch Shioon that he flew at the cafe and landed in there. That Strength isn't normal after all the bastard was just a regular bully before SUC. Is it possible that SUC gives their members some kind of drugs or whateva?

[Charlie]

If she was cured, the next time she's back, it might be an adult form.
So Shioon might be shocked to see her grown up or around his age. I forget what her actual age was.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I think she was 15 but I could be mistaken.

[Host Samurai]

One thing got me thinking. How the hell did ChangHo punch Shioon that he flew at the cafe and landed in there. That Strength isn't normal after all the bastard was just a regular bully before SUC. Is it possible that SUC gives their members some kind of drugs or whateva?

It was just a regular punch which was enhanced due to Changho jumping and throwing a punch of a driving car. As you can see it here (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/14) (at the bottom left you see him open the door) and there (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/15).

Am I the only one who doesn't like the idea of Shioon turning into an pill addict, since we know that the pill is a temporary power up? I hope that the Doc will somehow find a motivation and try to do the impossible (fixing the KI center) and thus proving his genius. :D

[revennge]

It was just a regular punch which was enhanced due to Changho jumping and throwing a punch of a driving car. As you can see it here (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/14) (at the bottom left you see him open the door) and there (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/32/15).

Everything is good, but even if it is powered by kinetic energy that does not explain the distance Shioon fell.In chapter 26 ChangHo hit the big guy and he did not fly away. Maybe difference in mass, but still. I would expect such punch from Shioon as he sent Ji-Gun flying. In part 1 Shioon blew up the reinforced glass door with SCS(Soul Crushing Strike for future reference). I may be looking for things deeper then they are but still. ChangHo and that distance? No way.

[TomoyukiTanaka]

One thing got me thinking. How the hell did ChangHo punch Shioon that he flew at the cafe and landed in there. That Strength isn't normal after all the bastard was just a regular bully before SUC. Is it possible that SUC gives their members some kind of drugs or whateva?

No, none of the SUC take drugs, or at least I don't think so.

That was a punch filled with ki. Ki tends to overpower your moves and make them much stronger than they really are. With ki, lots of impossible martial arts are made possible, even ones that can kill with one finger (like Jigun) or break bones with a punch or turn a dodge into a shunpo.

And for the big guy not flying away, it was probably because Changho wasn't even taking him seriously. Just played around and hit him with half-strength, yet was enough to knock the guy out. For Shioon, he was so pissed he used his full strength, probably? Just guessing.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

@revennge: Well it is possible that he just limited his power for the other guy. Let's be honest here ChangHo has a score to settle with Shioon so he is probably going all out to try and prove his martial arts are better than Shioons. Most people in the Murim can control their power at will and to me that would be the most logical explanation being that he is going all out. Plus the S.U.C. guys even commented that Shioon was probably dead from a punch like that. I don't think it is that unreasonable to think Shioon went flying that far.

[NAM61]

If she was cured, the next time she's back, it might be an adult form.
So Shioon might be shocked to see her grown up or around his age. I forget what her actual age was.

should be interesting to see how big she has gotten. also wasn't it said that if she would be able to use ki she would be very powerful or something.

[Hsarus]

Yup, thats why I have a theory that the doctor might create some ill-wallsindan drugs out of Shioon's blood samples or create an imitiation of that ki drug or just plainly want to experiment with it. There's a bunch of possibilities for what could happen.

Yeah but, the thing is the only one who knows that Shion took that pill is Goomooryong and Shishio that died... nobody else knows about this and was kept a secret. Because Shion is the only survivor of taking that pill all the others that tried it died by bursting out of ki.

[Hiro Hayase]

Yeah but, the thing is the only one who knows that Shion took that pill is Goomooryong and Shishio that died... nobody else knows about this and was kept a secret. Because Shion is the only survivor of taking that pill all the others that tried it died by bursting out of ki.

Yes, your absolutely right. However, the doctor clearly knows more than he's letting on. I'm basing this on how the homeless doctor noticed immediately after observing Shioon's ki channel that he digested an unbelievable spirit medicine. Well even if the doctor didn't know this fact before this chapter, then he will probably understand after inspecting Shioon's blood sample. Also, 9AD and Shiho are the only ones that have knowledge of Shioon knowing the ultimate ki-distribution technique, I think it was called Black Heaven Earth technique(?).

[Charlie]

Does any remember that chapter.

I dont recall GMR teaching Shioon that, but when I think about i it seems familiar. :sweat.

[shakes12]

he was taught that, the black heaven and earth technique is the only ki distrubting technique that can circulate shioons large amount of ki. (go back and read part 1)

[matzik1212]

i really hope this pill that the doctor made is only a temporary measure and that in the end he will figure out a way to restore his ki center, i refuse to accept that this is the only possibility for shioon to do martial arts :darn .....*sigh..* in times like this i'm really starting to hate GMR for his stupid decision and damn i wanna see what he's up to nowadays , this author is killing me -_-

[Monsterguy]

@matzik1212

I'm thinking the same. Although I hope that Shioon would some day restore his ki center and come out like a "God" of all martial arts.

[Jammin]

I was certainly hoping for something a bit more "grandiose" than a pill. If that was all it took it would seem a bit anti-climactic. So I'm hoping this is just the first step in a more permanent treatment to come later.

But overall i'm pretty pleased with the way this whole thing is flowing.

Shioon's list of enemies is increasing despite his lack of power. Which serves to showcase Shioon's mental state, his will and resolve. Because he has so little strength and still maintains his strength of will it should add much more impact when he regains his fighting power. This way there is never any doubt that whether he is physically weak or strong Shioon is the same person mentally.

That being said, i think all that stuff is thoroughly established at this point. So it's time for Shioon to regain some strength. I want to see him make a real go at stepping into the martial arts world and maybe even leading the clan that was awarded to him.

[1 lonewolf]

well i agree with your opinion of his will power.
on the first point i think you guys forgot that he has been practicing that special breathing technique that those leaders in the first breaker series wanted. then he finally got that "medicine". which should help each other out.
so i don't think its anti climatic

[revennge]

Hm, do you think artist will be late this time as well? He posted some pictures in his blog and I am glad that he finds time for himself and is not slave for his work. Read in a-team forums that artist was "gathering work-related photo materials" and could cross that for relaxing with his family. I expect to see some of the pictures drawn in future manhwa chapters. From google translate I could understand that at the end of his post he asks himself will he meet deadline. Well, we will see that tomorrow.

For some on-topic:
He has taken the "mysterious" pill and it seems that pill has taken effect. Now next chapter should be some royal ass-whooping from Shioons side. Damn, Broken arm like Chunwoo + Temporary Ki = Bad news for bad guys. It should be explained how it works in future chapters and will it be permanent of temporary solution. I do hope it's temporary because it would suck if he had to take pill every time before the fights. And what would happen when he would be attacked by surprise? Running away? If no possible? What then?:darn

As for future. Author has taken quite a few photos of Incheon International Airport. Will there be any action there?

P.S. Yay, Breaker NW chapter disscusion has 4 pages. Next goal 5 pages :D

[Jammin]

well i agree with your opinion of his will power.
on the first point i think you guys forgot that he has been practicing that special breathing technique that those leaders in the first breaker series wanted. then he finally got that "medicine". which should help each other out.
so i don't think its anti climatic No i don't think anybody forgot that. Personally, i was hoping that technique would play more of a role in him getting his ki back than it did(possibly combined with that crazy medicine that awarded him wolverine level regeneration).

Because it seems like a lot of really knowledgeable people told him, one after another, that "healing the ki center can't be done". Now i never believed for a second that was true, but the way things ended up that doctor guy kinda did the "impossible" in a very nonchalant way. Shioon was like "Fix me up!" and he was like"....Sure." Made him a pill and he was good to go.

That's the only reason i'm hoping this fix is temporary, because if that's a long term fix than that doctor just made pretty much every martial artist that talked to Shioon about his problem look like idiots.

[benelori]

I think it is definitely temporary...it probably automatically restores some ki flow for a while...the doctor himself said that it is impossible to restore his condition...it's pretty similar to the pill Shioon took before...

I wonder what drawbacks will there be

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I think the pill is temporary because notice when the Doctor is talking to Shioon he says "I can help you win the match" which to me implies him being able to use ki for a short time only. I'm sure this isn't the last time we will see the doctor. He will probably analyze Shioons blood and hopefully come up with a more permanent solution to fixing his ki center.

[ZERO PHOENIX]

So it comes down between doping (Shioon) and fake martial arts (Chang)? That's not very inspiring. :D Still I doubt this will be a true test of Shioon's abilities. I see Chang getting his ass handed to him in the next chapter or so. This will be good for him. He can learn the difference between real martial arts and well, whatever the hell he's working with.

I do hope this fight is more entertaining than than Shioon's last battle though.

[Bhoot]

Well if Shioon does recover his powers , its gonna be a one-sided match . But what I wanna see is weather he uses a new skill or not [He did look at all of GMR's videos and so he may try them since he does seem to be a fast learner . Then again , he may never have practised 'em b4 and just might end up twisting his ankle like b4 .

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Well if Shioon does recover his powers , its gonna be a one-sided match . But what I wanna see is weather he uses a new skill or not [He did look at all of GMR's videos and so he may try them since he does seem to be a fast learner . Then again , he may never have practised 'em b4 and just might end up twisting his ankle like b4 .

True true, but do you think he'll even need to use more than the basics to take down Chang? I don't see Shioon having to use more than a few basic techniques to beat Chang into the ground and show him the difference between real training from Goomooryong and whatever Chang was taught by some fake.

[tehwes]

Personally, I'd prefer the pill to be a permanent effect, but damaging in some way. Previously the doctor said "where there's a will, there's a way" about a potential fix, which implied that it would be painful and not fully effective.

Also, shouldn't Shiwoon be able to use his arm now? It's been hours since he broke it so it's probably healed...

[NAM61]

i hope it is permanent but i doubt it he will probably have to keep going to the doctor to get more pills. but hopefully that he can use his ki now he can use his healing ability better and somehow heal his ki center.

[benelori]

He definitely doesn't need more than just his basics to defeat him...I mean he used a broken stepping technique, and managed to get away...So Chang Ho is pretty much screwed if he couldn't keep up with something like that...Shioon also has some nice confidence going on for him right now...I mean that last statement of his was pretty badass...so to say:amuse...

What I'm hoping for is some clues about who is teaching ki techniques to these fakes from SUC...

[ChaoticKen]

Nothing about releases, but the notice about the yet-unreleased Chapter 33 has this.

이번 33화에 시운의 복장이 32화와 좀 달라졌습니다 저와 전극진 작가님의 의견의 오차로 인해 제가 잘못 그렸습니다 32화의 시운의 복장은 조만간 수정을 하거나 단행본에서 수정을 할 계획입니다 실수를 이해해 주시고요 33화 재밌게 봐주세요..

Basically ShiWoon's outfit in Chapter 33 is a bit different from his outfit in Chapter 32. This occurred because, due to a misunderstanding, the artist accidentally drew it wrong. He'll either fix ShiWoon's outfit in Chapter 32 or have it fixed in the volume release. He's sorry, please understand, and enjoy Chapter 33.

EDIT: Also, Chapter 33 is now up.

http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/11808

DOUBLE EDIT: Jesus Christ it came out early today. I'll try to have a translation up within an hour.

[sharingan_kakashi]

This has probably been discussed but im too lazy to look in the previous pages :p
Is the doctor Goomoonryoung? He kinda look like the original. even though the art is now different, there are some similarities. And the fact that half his face is covered is suspicious. I know ShiWoon was there but the guy is incognito so he is not supposed to recognize him, no one is.