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ErosVp
May 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
Damn! Some months "wasted" working hard and there is so much to catch up! Of course I've been reading the chapters, but the discussions and extras are too much..

shaheer
May 30, 2012, 04:39 PM
good to see you back mate :super
any good theories on the new turns of TOG?
nd this reminds me of the old crowd where is Host samurai?

Charlie
June 02, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello everyone - please welcome monsterguy to the section - he'll be modding here!

:confetti

Uriel
June 02, 2012, 06:10 PM
I salute the new mod. :D

shaheer
June 03, 2012, 05:10 AM
Monsterguy as a mod in the sec is a good decision, he has been discussing with us for some time now in da manhwa thread

naruto-niichan
June 07, 2012, 04:14 PM
Happy welcome Monster :confetti




ToG Comic by SIU (http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=inutero3334&logNo=140158974770&redirect=Dlog)


For anyone who's interested, LaFa made a raw translation of the comic above


Quant says that he has a big news.
That he got an offer to be in the new advertisement for 9th anniversary of Maplestory.
He says that he'll become the new supernova in that industry.

But the peeps don't like that.
People gather for an interview after hearing the rumour that Wolhaiksong is giving out wingtrees.

Rak says Banana instead of the medal/badge of wingtree.
Yuri says Out.

Second is Koon.
Good-looking, smart, and an okay appearance.
Battle power is rather lacking, but future seems promising.
Criminal records: Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, Scam
Police

Third is Hatsu.
Family and specs are all so-so.
No criminal records.
She asks for something that he can do.

Senpuku.
Should I do it here?
Get the heck out.

4th Laure
Self-explanatory

5th candidate has unknown origin and mediocre specs.
Baam says Hi.
Pass.

Baam go the wingtree.

The End :D.

Nothing new but still quite funny :D

---------- Post added at 11:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ----------


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fPY_4cIHGa4

A really well-made video of Tog :zomg beware, heavy spoilers ahead

kakashi65
June 08, 2012, 05:31 PM
It´s almost THAT day of the week again, am I the only one waiting for THAT day to come the whole week? :D

naruto-niichan
June 09, 2012, 06:08 AM
No, you're not the only one :D I'm really looking forward to it, especially because of SIU's spoilerish preview :mono

Monsterguy
June 09, 2012, 06:42 AM
It´s almost THAT day of the week again, am I the only one waiting for THAT day to come the whole week? :D

woah, you made me even more anticipating...:gaw:x3

I don't know what to expect from Baam(power wise), well he is an irregular of course...:XD

[hr]

if anybody knows action manga/manhwa with team work, that has similar / as great colorful art as ToG, I would really appreciate it...:derp

I think the closest are "Aflame inferno" and "Noblesse", but I don't know about others, any ideas...:confused

PS: Oh, "Undercity (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/76526-Webtoon-UNDER-CITY-by-Chobap)" also looks promising, but isn't translated more than at the begining, so I can't tell..:crying

shaheer
June 10, 2012, 05:45 AM
hmm colourful art is sth that i dun know, you might try Trace its decent, not as a good as the other 2 that you mentioned

k-dom
June 10, 2012, 06:37 AM
Well manga with colourful art will be hard to find :-)
I find that trace has a better art than Noblesse or ToG but the end of part 1 is questionable on a plot point of view. The second part may correct it but it is too early to say.
Magician has one of the best web comic art to find. I'm behind on the releases, the pace is kinda slow but if you like fantasy you will probably like it. Peak (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=72697) has very very good art but I don't know if it is what you search in term of 'action'
It's French but English community likes it and there are some parts in color Freaks' Squeele (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=74142), if you like humor and magic you will probably enjoy it a lot

kakashi65
June 22, 2012, 06:33 PM
I noticed that more and more newcomers show up in our TOG-Forum, first of all welcome to all of you. I think the reason the numbers are rising is because you people are just awesome, I myself like this TOG-comunity here very much and wanted to share this and thank you all for it :D yeah I know it got somehow gooey but guys keep up the good work *thumbs up*

naruto-niichan
June 23, 2012, 06:38 PM
A happy welcome from me too, always nice to see new members here :)

for anyone who's interested, I found an old draft from SIU. It's a draft from the first chapter of ToG:

http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=comic_new&no=2236961


and a concept art for a high Ranker made by SIU:

http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=inutero3334&logNo=140130351711

shaheer
June 23, 2012, 10:20 PM
ya that concept art of a High ranker was the one that some wiki user used in Enryus image box
we were all like what the hell ?!! where did that come from ?

kakashi65
June 25, 2012, 06:44 PM
After 20-21 chapters of season 2, with Baam saying approximately 5-6 words, I really did forget how it was when Baam was talkative, so I checked some older chapters and dude the difference between those characters hit me in the face. I was accustomed to him being quiet that I almost forgot what a character he was in the past. I didn´t expected that.

DarkLordOfKichiku
June 26, 2012, 12:46 AM
After 20-21 chapters of season 2, with Baam saying approximately 5-6 words, I really did forget how it was when Baam was talkative, so I checked some older chapters and dude the difference between those characters hit me in the face. I was accustomed to him being quiet that I almost forgot what a character he was in the past. I didn´t expected that.

Ouch, yeah, that's the case. I'm really hoping he'll be less of a clam after the events of the current chapter, but that remains to be seen, I guess. Hmm. It occurs to me so far, in Part 2, the one he has been speaking with the most is Yeon... :teehee

kakashi65
June 27, 2012, 01:53 PM
I just thought about what would happen if Rak and Teddy would meet.

Rak: Hey Turtle, I´m here to hunt you, let´s fight
Teddy: I won´t fight you, also I´m not a turtle
Rak: Have you a long life?
Teddy: We live in shinsoo, so kinda yeah
Rak: you´ve got a good memory?
Teddy: ... I guess!?
Rak: And I heard you´ve got a shell and under this shell is your real body
Teddy: ... you could say that, yeah
Rak: You´re absolutely a turtle, turtle
Teddy: Hey aligator, have you ever seen a "devil"?
Rak: what??
Teddy: I´ll show you the devil, that lives in my right arm!
Rak: I´m a fisherman, not an aligator
Teddy: ...(is this guy kidding me?)

0Xellos
June 27, 2012, 02:51 PM
Certainly, since we already know the outcome of Phantaminum vs Enryu, here's a new one: Rak vs Teddy! Enjoy! :D
Personally, I'd like to see Androssi vs Baam. Since Androssi was Baam's fighting mentor in pt1, it'd be nice to see her shocked about how much he's grown...

shaheer
June 28, 2012, 12:38 AM
i would love an androssi vs baam. we will really get to know how strong Baam has become then.
Btw is Rak vs teddy fair? Teddy is too strong imho

0Xellos
June 28, 2012, 04:39 AM
i would love an androssi vs baam. we will really get to know how strong Baam has become then.
Btw is Rak vs teddy fair? Teddy is too strong imho

We haven't seen Rak since pt1, and he's bound to get much stronger when going up the tower. So the point of Rak vs Teddy, is that we can't say who's stronger at all :D

kakashi65
June 28, 2012, 08:43 AM
We haven't seen Rak since pt1, and he's bound to get much stronger when going up the tower. So the point of Rak vs Teddy, is that we can't say who's stronger at all :D

I also think so, don´t underestimate the crocodile, even in the first test he was well acquainted with shinsoo and also was a strong one, but we have to see if he got stronger or not.

Baam vs. Androssi, would be a nice fight, I think they might be equal, if not that Baam is slightly stronger

Bhoot
June 28, 2012, 05:32 PM
Guyz just wondering ..... what is wangnan's position ?? I mean is a spear thrower or what ??

kakashi65
June 28, 2012, 06:45 PM
He's got a reel inventory, so maybe a fisherman??

shaheer
June 28, 2012, 10:33 PM
hmm a fisherman seems adequate, but he i think he lacks expertize in any department well enough to affect his fighting tech.
he fought by running away from viole while occasionally throwing bomb

0Xellos
June 29, 2012, 04:56 AM
Well whichever position he is, we can be sure it's not wave controller :teehee
Seems like a fisherman (no reason to have a reel inventory otherwise), although I'd say he's more fit to be a scout

khaja_200923
September 04, 2012, 06:38 PM
1.How many Floors does one have to climb to become an A-Ranker?
2.By what procedure are A-Ranker's Promoted to High Rankers?
3.Where exactly is the wealth that every one speaks of up there in tower,up the tower............... when the A-rankers who have already climbed the towers are misers who can't exactly give a proper treat happily..and doing menial jobs like becoming instructor for money..I haven't exactly seen people gaining wealth as they climb up the tower..?
4.Is Akryung a Irregular or a Regular?

abc1233
September 04, 2012, 07:04 PM
1.How many Floors does one have to climb to become an A-Ranker?
2.By what procedure are A-Ranker's Promoted to High Rankers?
3.Where exactly is the wealth that every one speaks of up there in tower,up the tower............... when the A-rankers who have already climbed the towers are misers who can't exactly give a proper treat happily..and doing menial jobs like becoming instructor for money..I haven't exactly seen people gaining wealth as they climb up the tower..?
4.Is Akryung a Irregular or a Regular?

1. 134
2. Can't remember where it was stated but in the wiki it mentions that the Rankers which are in the top 1% in rankings can become High Rankers
3. Yeah I was wondering about that too. Who knows, maybe you can have anything you wish for a temporary period of time before going back to your normal life? Or it's just a lie and nothing is up there
4. Nothing much is known about him, though it has been implied that he is an irregular. Some even speculate that he is Enryu, though if he is an irregular it is strange why he doesn't receive as much recognition as Baam.

TheBoss
September 04, 2012, 07:56 PM
3.Well They win lots of things by going up the tower, like immortality. And money isnt their problem either.
They work, for zahard, like a test administrator etc, not because they need it, they do that to increase their rank and fame.

khaja_200923
September 05, 2012, 02:57 AM
3.Well They win lots of things by going up the tower, like immortality. And money isnt their problem either.
They work, for zahard, like a test administrator etc, not because they need it, they do that to increase their rank and fame.
Then are all A-rankers immortal?
and the residents in 20+ floors are they regulars who climbed the tower too, i mean each and every one present in 20+ floors like massagers(20th floor test),workers in shops,guards who were shouting "for the eternal glory of zahard..)in zahard princess castle.,etc.,,

abc1233
September 05, 2012, 05:26 AM
Then are all A-rankers immortal?
and the residents in 20+ floors are they regulars who climbed the tower too, i mean each and every one present in 20+ floors like massagers(20th floor test),workers in shops,guards who were shouting "for the eternal glory of zahard..)in zahard princess castle.,etc.,,

It's not known whether the 100th floor Guardian gives everyone who passes its test immortality, or if it just made Zahard and the heads immortal. Also, considering the issue with Hendo Bloodmadder, I doubt it's as straightforward as "pass this test and I'll give you unconditional immortality"

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them are simply descendants of people who climbed to the 20th floor and decided to live there



3.Well They win lots of things by going up the tower, like immortality. And money isnt their problem either.
They work, for zahard, like a test administrator etc, not because they need it, they do that to increase their rank and fame.

Yes but whenever people have mentioned the prize, it's always referring to the top, rather than the journey to the top.

0Xellos
September 05, 2012, 09:15 AM
I suppose everyone who gets to the 134th floor gets a wish fulfilled, and Zahard's wish was for immortality from regulars (dunno how it works).
It was stated somewhere that as you climb the Tower, you age slower. It seems that on 134th floor, this effect is so sstrong that 100 years is like 1 year outside or something like that.

abc1233
September 05, 2012, 02:15 PM
I suppose everyone who gets to the 134th floor gets a wish fulfilled, and Zahard's wish was for immortality from regulars (dunno how it works).
It was stated somewhere that as you climb the Tower, you age slower. It seems that on 134th floor, this effect is so sstrong that 100 years is like 1 year outside or something like that.

Really? I thought the only reason why he couldn't be killed by regulars is because of the contracts he made with the guardians as he progressed through each floor.

Monsterguy
September 06, 2012, 01:35 AM
1.How many Floors does one have to climb to become an A-Ranker?
2.By what procedure are A-Ranker's Promoted to High Rankers?
3.Where exactly is the wealth that every one speaks of up there in tower,up the tower............... when the A-rankers who have already climbed the towers are misers who can't exactly give a proper treat happily..and doing menial jobs like becoming instructor for money..I haven't exactly seen people gaining wealth as they climb up the tower..?
4.Is Akryung a Irregular or a Regular?


If you are referring to a "class A" Ranker (from "class S" or even higher "class S+" and so on, to other classes below which are from "class A" untill the lowest "class F"). Than this refers to how skilled you are at some "particular" field as a Ranker, or the potential of all fields if you polish/train them untill the max !!!
* field - as inteligence, or fishermen skills, or scout skills,...

Remember:
even the highest ranked guy "Phantaminum (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Phantaminum)" is just a "High Ranker", unless he gets some other rank on top, like for example a Ruler of the floor.

Nonetheless this still means that to become a "Ranker" you need to climb the tower untill the top (last known floor by Zahard's Empire (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Floors) - you must pass floor 134)...:)

[hr]

This was explained "a little" by Author on his blog once. It is said that after you reach the last floor you are judged by "Rank Administering Office", and than given a rank. Urek was once angry at them and wanted a higher rank, but has instead just embarrassed himself, and ended up with a nickname " Urek Ma-Loser" (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Urek_Mazino).

I believe with this "Rank Administering Office" is also deciding who is a normal Ranker and who a High Ranker, based on many things (how fast somebody climbed the tower, how strong that person is compared to whom he/she fought against,...).

[hr]

I'm imagining myself that climbing the tower is similar like people were conquering America.

This is because some had to fight native people over there in America. In ToG story I understand this simply as to the "monsters in a floor that's not ever been conquered", why when the "10 Family heads" people got their test's (not yet compleated them !!!) from the Guardians for the first time the floor was still not conquered.

Than after conquering the floor they (people in America or 10 Family heads in ToG) simply took everything(land, objects,... --> what is called "wealth") that they wanted and proclaimed it as their's.

Even now it is said that 134th floor is NOT the final floor you can pass (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Floors), but that you can go on. Personally I think Zahard and "the 10 Family heads" got everything they wanted untill 134th floor, and they didn't want to risk their lives and lose everything, why remember that each floor has more dificoult task than before, given to you by a Guardian !!!

[hr]

I can't prove it, but I can take Androssi's statement "that she knew Akryung from before (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/37/tower-of-god_v1_ch27_by_the-company/3)" as that he is not an irregular.

On the other hand I could be totally wrong and Akryung really is irregular !!!

It was also stated: "An irregular (might be Akryung) and a girl (Lahel/Rachel). And a boy (Baam) with dangerous talent that chases her (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/18240/tower-of-god_v1_ch56_by_the-company/22)".



At the end this is still something wrapped in total mystery, even for me...:fail

TheBoss
September 07, 2012, 10:07 PM
Haha monster dont feel bad, its the mystery that makes things interesting ^^


Then are all A-rankers immortal?
and the residents in 20+ floors are they regulars who climbed the tower too, i mean each and every one present in 20+ floors like massagers(20th floor test),workers in shops,guards who were shouting "for the eternal glory of zahard..)in zahard princess castle.,etc.,,
no no you are misundertanding, the majority of the population of the floors arent rankers, specially in the case of the 20 floor.
ranker is a title earned from reaching the "end" of the known tower, those who stoped climbing for whatever the reason, can stay on those floors.
On the 20th floor for a example, since is one of the turning points on the tower, lots of people cant pass so they stay there repeating the test until they do.
The problem is that u need to pay to take the test there, and its not cheap. So they need to work, a job.
But the floor has its natives too.

khaja_200923
September 09, 2012, 01:49 AM
Haha monster dont feel bad, its the mystery that makes things interesting ^^


no no you are misundertanding, the majority of the population of the floors arent rankers, specially in the case of the 20 floor.
ranker is a title earned from reaching the "end" of the known tower, those who stoped climbing for whatever the reason, can stay on those floors.
On the 20th floor for a example, since is one of the turning points on the tower, lots of people cant pass so they stay there repeating the test until they do.
The problem is that u need to pay to take the test there, and its not cheap. So they need to work, a job.
But the floor has its natives too.
1.So there are residents on 134th floor too.? If so they must be descendents of the early A-rankers who climbed the tower…
Shinsoo density in the atmosphere increases as one we go up the floors and naturally 134th floor must have highest shinsoo density in the normal residential area.(except steel eel breeding grounds and other unknown exceptions.) so when children are born on this floor they will face harsh shinsoo environment and will grow by adapting to this environment..these children will become strong just by growing on this floor..and some of them may even be stronger than the normal level A-Rankers, just think about it Rankers who climb the tower for 100+years and reach the 134th floor only to find themselves weaker than the residents…it would be too much of a hilarious situation and also wouldn’t it also be against the towers propaganda “those who seek power climb the tower…what good is power when they are relatively weak even to the residents..
So my question here would be are there really natives(descendents of early rankers) on 134th floor and are there any children being born on this floor to rankers?..

2.Does one have to be from outside the tower to be a irregular or just opening the doors of towers forcefully will make you a irregular. I mean fug wants to kill zahard and was waiting for an irregular who they can manipulate for who knows 100+ or 1000+ years, instead of waiting couldn’t they just make their children or some strong interested regular from higher floor to forcefully open the towers door.

suraj5898
September 09, 2012, 08:58 AM
Zahard and all other ranker r not immortal they r just like vampire they live till u kill them

what did Rachael want ???? i mean she say she wanted to see stars . every floor we see all have sky right then dint in night they can see star in sky or only 134 floor's sky have stars ??????
this may be stupid question BUT DID BAAM IS REALLY IRREGULAR ????????? i mean H (first guardian) know baam is coming if baam is irregular then he can open get anytime right or H can see future ???

abc1233
September 09, 2012, 03:24 PM
Zahard and all other ranker r not immortal they r just like vampire they live till u kill them

what did Rachael want ???? i mean she say she wanted to see stars . every floor we see all have sky right then dint in night they can see star in sky or only 134 floor's sky have stars ??????
this may be stupid question BUT DID BAAM IS REALLY IRREGULAR ????????? i mean H (first guardian) know baam is coming if baam is irregular then he can open get anytime right or H can see future ???

Baam is certainly an irregular. Headon may have detected that Baam was the one who opened the door but Rachel fell through first, so he was waiting for Baam to come through since he was the one who actually opened the door. Even if that is not the case and Headon knew in advance that Baam was going to open the door, it still doesn't mean that he isn't an irregular. Irregulars are ones who are chosen by the tower but not by Zahard, neither of which are particularly affected by Headon simply knowing in advance that Baam was going to open the door.

Monsterguy
September 09, 2012, 04:54 PM
1.So there are residents on 134th floor too.? If so they must be descendents of the early A-rankers who climbed the tower…
Shinsoo density in the atmosphere increases as one we go up the floors and naturally 134th floor must have highest shinsoo density in the normal residential area.(except steel eel breeding grounds and other unknown exceptions.) so when children are born on this floor they will face harsh shinsoo environment and will grow by adapting to this environment..these children will become strong just by growing on this floor..and some of them may even be stronger than the normal level A-Rankers, just think about it Rankers who climb the tower for 100+years and reach the 134th floor only to find themselves weaker than the residents…it would be too much of a hilarious situation and also wouldn’t it also be against the towers propaganda “those who seek power climb the tower…what good is power when they are relatively weak even to the residents..
So my question here would be are there really natives(descendents of early rankers) on 134th floor and are there any children being born on this floor to rankers?..

2.Does one have to be from outside the tower to be a irregular or just opening the doors of towers forcefully will make you a irregular. I mean fug wants to kill zahard and was waiting for an irregular who they can manipulate for who knows 100+ or 1000+ years, instead of waiting couldn’t they just make their children or some strong interested regular from higher floor to forcefully open the towers door.



There naturaly are residents of 134th floor too, yes, but there are not a lot of them, why only a few reach 134th floor, among whom even less decide to stay on a floor so high up and have children (even if there comes a few rankers to this floor, many decide to live the remaining of their life in a floor lower than 134th floor) !!!

The thing is that even if there are a few descendents(people on higher floors don't decide to have many children, what was mentioned on authors blog somewhere, but I'm to lazy to look where, sorry...:fail). Those descendents must still be gifted with inteligence, talent to learn, and on top of all have the "will/desire"(what for example talented Laure lacks "a little", with sleeping all the time...:XD).

Anyway, a few still succeed and become even high rankers at the end as you can see them like princesses or normal people ranked really high !!!

Remember:
Not even members of the 10 families and irregulars are all in the first top 10 rankings, but there are normal residents there too, like for example Adori Zahard(known birthplace is 132th floor), who is ranked seventh or eighth !!!

[hr]

Hm, interesting thinking I agree, but untill it is revealed in a story all this would remain, would be a "theory"...:^_^

Host Samurai
September 10, 2012, 04:58 AM
Zahard and all other ranker r not immortal they r just like vampire they live till u kill them

what did Rachael want ???? i mean she say she wanted to see stars . every floor we see all have sky right then dint in night they can see star in sky or only 134 floor's sky have stars ??????
this may be stupid question BUT DID BAAM IS REALLY IRREGULAR ????????? i mean H (first guardian) know baam is coming if baam is irregular then he can open get anytime right or H can see future ???


As a reward for passing its test, the Guardian of the 100th Floor of the Tower gave Zahard and the 10 Family Heads the gift of immortality.
However there was one who was excluded from the gift: The Hendo Family’s Head, Bloodmadder.
(Exact reason for why he was excluded is not known.)

Zahard and the other Family heads are Immortal, my friend.:mono

TheBoss
September 10, 2012, 04:03 PM
2.Does one have to be from outside the tower to be a irregular or just opening the doors of towers forcefully will make you a irregular. I mean fug wants to kill zahard and was waiting for an irregular who they can manipulate for who knows 100+ or 1000+ years, instead of waiting couldn’t they just make their children or some strong interested regular from higher floor to forcefully open the towers door.
Yes, you need to be from "outside". Its impossible to open the door inside out, otherwise anyone could go out the tower as they wish and thats not what we see. Someone opening the tower doors by himself is a immensely rare event.
Ps: If u didn't know the one that chooses all the regulars is Headon, the first floor guardian, and then he sends them to the 2nd floor automatically.

abc1233
September 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
Yes, you need to be from "outside". Its impossible to open the door inside out, otherwise anyone could go out the tower as they wish and thats not what we see. Someone opening the tower doors by himself is a immensely rare event.
Ps: If u didn't know the one that chooses all the regulars is Headon, the first floor guardian, and then he sends them to the 2nd floor automatically.

Well it's been hinted that people have been able to leave the tower. Rachel clearly had knowledge of the tower when she first entered from a book, if she resided outside the tower then that means that someone must have entered the tower before and left in order to write this book, otherwise how else would they know about the guardians and the floors? As far as I know, it hasn't been outright stated that the door to the tower only opens inwards, it's simply an inference given the origin of the irregulars. Also, if opening the door to the tower from the outside is such a rare event then there's all the reason to believe that the opposite is true as well, possibly even more so, hence why everyone in the tower can't leave as they please.

khaja_200923
September 13, 2012, 03:12 AM
Yes, you need to be from "outside". Its impossible to open the door inside out, otherwise anyone could go out the tower as they wish and thats not what we see. Someone opening the tower doors by himself is a immensely rare event.
Ps: If u didn't know the one that chooses all the regulars is Headon, the first floor guardian, and then he sends them to the 2nd floor automatically.
i wonder about that! the reason i even asked that question was because i thought baam is from somewhere inside the tower and was an exception among the irregulars. http://pic.godmanga.com/manga1/tower-of-god/chapter028/tower-of-god_0c1101101.jpg

here in this place where baam used to live u can see zahard's symbol on the wall in the third panel which is clearly a hint that they are from inside the tower..and also if they were from outside the tower why do lahel even need to climb the tower since stars are present outside the tower but they are not in the tower since the tower floors has ceilings.
and Headon was clearly anticipating baam's arrival which i dont think would have been possible if he was from outside the tower.

abc1233
September 13, 2012, 08:37 AM
i wonder about that! the reason i even asked that question was because i thought baam is from somewhere inside the tower and was an exception among the irregulars. http://pic.godmanga.com/manga1/tower-of-god/chapter028/tower-of-god_0c1101101.jpg

here in this place where baam used to live u can see zahard's symbol on the wall in the third panel which is clearly a hint that they are from inside the tower..and also if they were from outside the tower why do lahel even need to climb the tower since stars are present outside the tower but they are not in the tower since the tower floors has ceilings.
and Headon was clearly anticipating baam's arrival which i dont think would have been possible if he was from outside the tower.

Zahard came from outside the tower, so the fact that his symbol is present in the cave doesn't necessarily mean that he's inside the tower. That symbol could have been placed there before Zahard entered the tower.

TheBoss
September 13, 2012, 02:23 PM
Zahard came from outside the tower, so the fact that his symbol is present in the cave doesn't necessarily mean that he's inside the tower. That symbol could have been placed there before Zahard entered the tower.
Exactly. abc1233, its stated by SIU himself that to be a irregular you have to open the door by yourself without being invited by Headon. How could Urek that is a irregular and opened the door dont know where and how to open the door, since he opened it before. That makes us believe that opening the door from inside out isnt as easy as it sounds and thus the FUG trouble in raising Baam to kill zahard is understandable.

THM Nindo
September 15, 2012, 08:33 PM
Here are a few questions:

Ranking
How does the ranking stuff goes?

I mean... let's say that a guy reach the top.
He's judged and his giving a rank.

Let's say that they give him the rank 523th.
So, that means that everyone above 523 just became one rank below (523 became 524, 524 became 525, etc).

So, is there a special announcement every time that someone reach the top so that everyone is aware of their new rank?
Just how often does someone reach the top? Is it something like once per year, or more like one per decade?

How long to climb?
It takes an average of 500 years to climb the tower...
Yuri was considered a genius because she did only in 200 years.
Mazino was the fastest and it took him 50 years...

This fact alone makes me want to abandon this manwha...
Because, it's impossible that we will see Baam climb to the top.
Unless there are many many timeskip of 5 years every time, and that's very unlikely...

I guess he could be a super-genious and climb it (with the FUG helps) very quickly, but even so...
I guess he could break the record of Mazino, but even so, it almost can't be done in 20 years or so (and even that is still very long if we are to follow the story).

Age
And, if it takes 500 years, how do people grow old in this universe?
Yuri is 618 years old and she still look like she's barely in her twenties...
And there are people who are very very old (Adori Zahard is 5000+ years old)

Aren't those people humans?
Isn't Baam like 20 years old now?
Wouldn't that make him a baby compared to others who have lived for hundreds of years?

Number of Levels
Lastly, where we told how many level there were in the tower?
I think it was 134, right?

So, isn't that impressive that Baam got to level 20 in only 5 years?
I guess they get harder and harder, otherwise he would get to the end in only 35 years total.

abc1233
September 16, 2012, 06:20 AM
Here are a few questions:

Ranking
How does the ranking stuff goes?

I mean... let's say that a guy reach the top.
He's judged and his giving a rank.

Let's say that they give him the rank 523th.
So, that means that everyone above 523 just became one rank below (523 became 524, 524 became 525, etc).

So, is there a special announcement every time that someone reach the top so that everyone is aware of their new rank?
Just how often does someone reach the top? Is it something like once per year, or more like one per decade?

How long to climb?
It takes an average of 500 years to climb the tower...
Yuri was considered a genius because she did only in 200 years.
Mazino was the fastest and it took him 50 years...

This fact alone makes me want to abandon this manwha...
Because, it's impossible that we will see Baam climb to the top.
Unless there are many many timeskip of 5 years every time, and that's very unlikely...

I guess he could be a super-genious and climb it (with the FUG helps) very quickly, but even so...
I guess he could break the record of Mazino, but even so, it almost can't be done in 20 years or so (and even that is still very long if we are to follow the story).

Age
And, if it takes 500 years, how do people grow old in this universe?
Yuri is 618 years old and she still look like she's barely in her twenties...
And there are people who are very very old (Adori Zahard is 5000+ years old)

Aren't those people humans?
Isn't Baam like 20 years old now?
Wouldn't that make him a baby compared to others who have lived for hundreds of years?

Number of Levels
Lastly, where we told how many level there were in the tower?
I think it was 134, right?

So, isn't that impressive that Baam got to level 20 in only 5 years?
I guess they get harder and harder, otherwise he would get to the end in only 35 years total.

Ranking:
Yeah I suppose that would be logical, though I think SIU once said that Adori and Enne shared the same ranking (or was this later fixed?) so it could be possible that there are multiple people ranked 523rd for example

We can't really say for sure since we don't know how long ago Zahard entered the tower and set up the system. I'd assume it varies considerably, considering that Anak, Androssi and the others are climbing together, they'll probably reach the top together, whilst there may not be anyone skilled enough to climb for decades .

How long:
Well Baam will probably beat the record in my opinion considering he's a genius and is getting help. We'll almost certainly have quite a few timeskips, considering how well SIU handled the first one I don't think timeskips would become much of a problem, he could easily go for longer timeskips for floors that won't matter, e.g. between 43rd and 77th for example

Age:
Well people age slower in the tower, and the guardian on the 100th floor can grant immortality (though whether that's to everyone or just Zahard and the warriors is unknown I think) so that could explain the long lifespans.

On the topic of age though, maybe it's because he grew his hair but Baam seems to have aged much faster compared to Koon and Rachel, think he's grown too whilst they have pretty much stayed the same though I suppose SIU has never been too good with height.

0Xellos
September 16, 2012, 06:43 AM
Baam stayed at floor 2 for a long time. SIU said that the higher in the Tower, the slower people age. But I guess it's not much slower almost at the bottom :D
So, it'd make sense that he aged much more than the rest, who probably climbed the lower floors very quickly.

abc1233
September 16, 2012, 06:57 AM
Baam stayed at floor 2 for a long time. SIU said that the higher in the Tower, the slower people age. But I guess it's not much slower almost at the bottom :D
So, it'd make sense that he aged much more than the rest, who probably climbed the lower floors very quickly.

How do you know he stayed there for a long time? Other than the extra few days he stayed thinking over FUG's proposition I don't think it's been stated. If he stayed and trained for a few years there then it would be even more amazing that he got to the 20th floor so quickly.

Monsterguy
September 16, 2012, 07:04 AM
Here are a few questions:

Ranking
How does the ranking stuff goes?

I mean... let's say that a guy reach the top.
He's judged and his giving a rank.

Let's say that they give him the rank 523th.
So, that means that everyone above 523 just became one rank below (523 became 524, 524 became 525, etc).

So, is there a special announcement every time that someone reach the top so that everyone is aware of their new rank?
Just how often does someone reach the top? Is it something like once per year, or more like one per decade?

How long to climb?
It takes an average of 500 years to climb the tower...
Yuri was considered a genius because she did only in 200 years.
Mazino was the fastest and it took him 50 years...

This fact alone makes me want to abandon this manwha...
Because, it's impossible that we will see Baam climb to the top.
Unless there are many many timeskip of 5 years every time, and that's very unlikely...

I guess he could be a super-genious and climb it (with the FUG helps) very quickly, but even so...
I guess he could break the record of Mazino, but even so, it almost can't be done in 20 years or so (and even that is still very long if we are to follow the story).

Age
And, if it takes 500 years, how do people grow old in this universe?
Yuri is 618 years old and she still look like she's barely in her twenties...
And there are people who are very very old (Adori Zahard is 5000+ years old)

Aren't those people humans?
Isn't Baam like 20 years old now?
Wouldn't that make him a baby compared to others who have lived for hundreds of years?

Number of Levels
Lastly, where we told how many level there were in the tower?
I think it was 134, right?

So, isn't that impressive that Baam got to level 20 in only 5 years?
I guess they get harder and harder, otherwise he would get to the end in only 35 years total.

Warning: There are no specific answers for your questions out, yet. Still when you read most of author's blog, actual story (manhwa), and most of author's afterwords you can build up a new world in your own imagination (what makes things much more interesting for me, why you have to use your brains a little to make a picture out of a "jigsaw puzzle"...:XD). With this said, the following answers given by me will only be interpretation of how I myself have understood everything until now, and how I am imagining things to myself !!!


Ranking
Really hard to answer, because the only thing we readers know is that a regular only has very few/slim chances to reach the top.

Personally, I also don't know how those that reached 134th floor are anounced to get their rank. But until it is said otherwise I would believe that as for high rankers (only those who want) are notified through a pocket, when they are pushed a rank down. That, and that the normal rankers only get a number of their ranking written on something like a list (to us readers similar process would look like a "web page ranking of a game" that is regularly updated) in their pockets, and everybody can look on it when they want.

With this said I wanted also to point out that anybody that reaches the top becomes automaticly a ranker, even if the person who reaches the top would be Parakwel...:XD


How long to climb?
Contrary to you, I believe more time is better/necessary for the story, why the obvious and boring stuff (meals, washing, sleeping...) can easily be left out/skipped by the author (but readers still know they need to sleep, eat,...), but if necessary and something important for the flow of the story takes place/happens, it is also shown. This makes the story also more realistic to me !!!

About Baam scoring the record by climbing alone without obstacles (be the absolutly fastest at climbing), I have absoluty no second thoughts.
That's because as you can see Baam learns quickly how to become stronger (on second floor he shoots a beam of shisoo all of a sudden, or with simply copying the flow of shisoo from others), and is also inteligent enough to hide his identity as an irregular (people on second floor had a really hard time figuring out that he was an irregular, despite Baam asking them such an obvious questions, and showing them that he can use shisoo without any contract, what was even for normal "knowladgable" residents of the tower "hard to put together" - figure out that Baam was an irregular)

Nonetheless, when Baam would reach the top, judges would definitly instead of looking how fast Baam climed be looking at why he was so slow (despite, still being "the fastest ever" or of the similar speed as Urek Mazino). There they would see who Baam had to go against (a whole organization FUG, Zahard's army - RED, fighting strong foes Love, Mazino(?), and who knows who else) !!!
Based on those grounds I definitly see Baam getting one of the highest ranks in the tower.

Age
It was said by the author that while climbing the tower regularly, your ageing process dramatically slows down.

This means that faster that you reach higher floors, faster your aging process will slow down more drasticly, but not that it will completely stop, for that you need to make a contract with a Guardian as members of the 10 Familys did !!!



Well about comparing people, then tell me, in "reall life", the difference about two similar "perfectly healty people" of the same characteristics(inteligence of IQ the same, both of them interested in anything they see(!), physically the same strenght,...) of human body, but one is of age 18 and the other is of age 39 ???
If you ask me, there is only one answer, and that is "expirience" on every espect(?) / field !!!

Number of Levels
It sure is impressive, that Baam reached floor 20, in just 5 years, yes.

Although, if Baam would definitly know(would get a proof by Headon - guardian of first floor), that Rachel would be at the top floor, and had no interference on lower floors(FUG, army of RED, ...) then, I could definitly not see him still on only floor 20, but much higher. Anyway, than there would not be as interesting story to read for me (a reader), as it is right now...:XD

Oh, but you should not forget that "if" Baam would be reunited with his friends from part 1, their group would automaticly become stronger, and don't forget Baam is a "wave controller" who can help a team in any way possibile (dramatically increasing their battle power), what would make for them possibile to climb even faster than now, if not faced by any organizations !!!

0Xellos
September 16, 2012, 08:47 AM
How do you know he stayed there for a long time? Other than the extra few days he stayed thinking over FUG's proposition I don't think it's been stated. If he stayed and trained for a few years there then it would be even more amazing that he got to the 20th floor so quickly.

Isn't training at the 2F somewhere deep under FUG's supervision a better choice than sending Baam out on his own? We also know he has a martial arts instructor, so probably some other istructors, too. They'd need to travel with him on the way through the tower, which would be suspicious. (I guess they were replacements for Leroro and Quant.)
I think Baam stayed at 2F for a year or 2, training, and then they just let Baam take the test again with the new regulars, telling him to not push himself, so it wouldn't be suspicious. Passing lower floor tests should've been a piece of cake for him.

naruto-niichan
October 09, 2012, 08:24 AM
A little offtopic but....

Please check out the new Community Awards 2012 (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1037-Community-Awards-2012). It's a nice little event dedicated to all the awesome members here :mono

0Xellos
October 09, 2012, 08:46 AM
And even more offtopic: I just saw a supermarket... named Karaka!
Seriously, someone's a huge fan of TOG in my city :D

Monsterguy
October 10, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oh, I almost forgot, but let me point this out:

As you might have noticed the section of "Tower of god", has now it's own icon: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/images/icons/towerofgod.png

PS: All the credits for creating this icon go to Shinsatsu, respectively !!!

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If you are wondering why this symbol for the icon, let me repost what I already mentioned:


What the symbol means we have no clue as of now(untill this day), but you should know that it appears to be the symbol that represents everything that is going on in Tower of God,

it appeared in Baam's cave
on Yuri's tie
Androssi's "hair clip" (to hide her little horn)
later on Wangnan's ring
most receantly on a FUG slayer's ring
...

even the author of "Tower of God" story(SIU) is using this symbol most of the times at the beggining of a chapter as background, to tell us the name of that particular arc !!!

TheBoss
October 12, 2012, 01:32 PM
The simbol means the 3 Lords Rule don't it? Idk where but I read it in the wiki I guess.

kakashi65
October 12, 2012, 04:18 PM
How was it? Was it like, Zahards word is over the word of the 3 Lords? Because if it isn't, maybe Baam's really the son of Zahard but the 3 Lords didn't want Baam to be an eyesore to their reign or they just didn't want him to be a potential risk with the power of a Zahard. And so they agreed to lock Baam up and Zahard couldn't do a thing...
But I think Zahards authority outrank that of the 3 Lords, but would still be intresting

shaheer
October 12, 2012, 10:15 PM
nah zahard is the absolute authority after the guardians.
The three lords came into power after zahard decided to be dormant.

naruto-niichan
October 28, 2012, 12:50 PM
The second round of the Community Awards Voting (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1037-Community-Awards-2012) has started :arf

Please take a look and participate guys~

---------- Post added October 28, 2012 at 06:50 PM ---------- Previous post was October 23, 2012 at 04:41 PM ----------

The last round of the Community Awards Voting (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1037-Community-Awards-2012) has started :arf

Please take a look and participate guys~ We need to the whole community to vote and decide for the rightful winner :mono

halfcrzy
October 29, 2012, 01:23 AM
Hey guys help me out here, SUI is taking 2 weeks off..? Does that mean he will be back nov 4 or will there be another week so like nov 11. Because im wondering is the last chapter was spose to be just a comedy and i dont know if he counts it. Then he technically has 2 weeks off before the next chapter is due so I want to know when my fix is coming back.

0Xellos
October 29, 2012, 09:28 AM
Even if the last chapter was an extra and a comedy, he counts it. It still takes work.

scav
October 29, 2012, 09:54 AM
waiting is hard as i became quite addicted to ToG lately, but he deserves it. So far the 2nd part is awesome

Hestia
October 29, 2012, 04:44 PM
Hey guys help me out here, SUI is taking 2 weeks off..? Does that mean he will be back nov 4 or will there be another week so like nov 11. Because im wondering is the last chapter was spose to be just a comedy and i dont know if he counts it. Then he technically has 2 weeks off before the next chapter is due so I want to know when my fix is coming back.

I don't think we will get it this coming weekend,but the next one we will. So yes the 11th. It is nearly unbearable but SIU deserves it, and it could have been two months. Unless he was joking when he said that.:smugbunny

TheBoss
October 29, 2012, 08:20 PM
I don't think we will get it this coming weekend,but the next one we will. So yes the 11th. It is nearly unbearable but SIU deserves it, and it could have been two months. Unless he was joking when he said that.:smugbunny
He is a master troll, yes Yu Han Sung I'm looking at you:-_-, But he is pretty serious when talking about taking some days off.
It's not like he earns lots of money by making ToG for naver, so he deserves lots of rest.
Where is the afterword that he comment about us, non-korean readers? Idk why but when I read it back in the day it seemed like he didn't like us xD

naruto-niichan
October 30, 2012, 03:40 PM
I miss ToG so much, seriously :scry the 2 week break is killing me, though I have to agree with the others - SIU definitely deserves a break.

Oh I so can't wait for the epicness that is going to unfold :wtf

0Xellos
November 01, 2012, 04:54 PM
GUWAAAAH!
Why must SIU torture me like this? I want my dose of TOG! :waah

Hestia
November 01, 2012, 07:00 PM
GUWAAAAH!
Why must SIU torture me like this? I want my dose of TOG! :waah

Yeah... I'm trying to think of ways that we can hibernate for the next 10 days, no luck yet :?bunny

Jammin
November 02, 2012, 12:31 AM
Yeah... I'm trying to think of ways that we can hibernate for the next 10 days, no luck yet :?bunnyI've always found the only cure for the agony of waiting is to start reading a new series to fill the void. There are tons of good series out there just waiting for you.

I'd be more than happy to throw out some recommendations if you'd like.:^_^

Hestia
November 02, 2012, 09:24 AM
I've always found the only cure for the agony of waiting is to start reading a new series to fill the void. There are tons of good series out there just waiting for you.

I'd be more than happy to throw out some recommendations if you'd like.:^_^

I'm just wondering if there's any other Manga/Manhwa that have a world similar to Tower of God at all ( rankings, floors, irregulars/regulars, items, shinsoo ) . Wouldn't have to be those things obviously but just that kind of feel. Idk if that makes sense. One piece is kind of like that with haki(shinsoo) and bountys(rankings) and people with d in their name(irregulars) legendary swords(items) :sanji

Jammin
November 02, 2012, 10:45 AM
I'm just wondering if there's any other Manga/Manhwa that have a world similar to Tower of God at all ( rankings, floors, irregulars/regulars, items, shinsoo ) . Wouldn't have to be those things obviously but just that kind of feel. Idk if that makes sense. One piece is kind of like that with haki(shinsoo) and bountys(rankings) and people with d in their name(irregulars) legendary swords(items) :sanjiThere is definitely not much out there that can outshine One Piece and Tower of God, especially since your awesome avatar tells me that you already read Noblesse; but I like a challenge.

Claymore (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/claymore-r303)

It's own mystical force is called Yoki.
It has numbered rankings.
Certain special beings, though maybe not in the way you might be looking for.
No legendary items though, sorry.


Downside: It's quite a bit more dark and violent than One Piece or ToG though so depending on your tastes that could be a problem.

The other series that jumps to mind is.

Fairy Tail (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/fairy-tail-r558)


It's view of magic is actually similar to shinsoo and haki in some ways.
Special items galore
As an added bonus is similar to One Piece in it's general fun loving attitude.


Downside: It's not quite as imaginative as One Piece or Tower of God and dramatic arcs are few and far between.

------------------------------------------

Then there is just my classic recommendation for anybody at any time.

The Gintama Anime (http://www.crunchyroll.com/gintama)

In my opinion this is the best anime adaptation out there and it's not at all close.
Much like One Piece it does both humor and drama extremely well.
256 episodes, at least 200 of which are amazingly good.


Downside: The non-amazing episodes are all near the beginning.

0Xellos
November 02, 2012, 11:22 AM
Let me add the (sadly on hiatus) Hunter x Hunter (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/hunter-x-hunter-r939).

Hestia
November 02, 2012, 01:23 PM
I love fairy tail and hunter x hunter. I've never read Claymore or seen Gintama so I will definatley check them out! Thanks for the suggestions :cheerbunny

Host Samurai
November 05, 2012, 01:05 PM
I had a Claymore marathon last weekend, and I have to say that this manga is damn impressive. It strongly reminded me of Berserk, which is actually a good thing. Now, that I've caught up with the latest release. I need new, manga recommendations. :D

k-dom
November 05, 2012, 01:54 PM
There are plenty of recommendation in the otoku finder forum or 'what are you read next' threads.
You can also have a look to the review section.

Jammin
November 05, 2012, 11:27 PM
I had a Claymore marathon last weekend, and I have to say that this manga is damn impressive. It strongly reminded me of Berserk, which is actually a good thing. Now, that I've caught up with the latest release. I need new, manga recommendations. :DClaymore is a great read. It's a pity the anime barly scratched the surface of all the good stuff that's there. If you give me what genre your looking for and a few characteristics of what you like to read I can probably recommend you something.

Here's a mish-mash of series I think are pretty good and randomly jump to mind at the moment.

Trinity Seven (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/trinity-seven-7-nin-no-mahoutsukai-r253)
Magic, Ecchi, Harem... which tells you most of what you need to know. It is a fun read though, if you don't mind the genre.

Superior (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/superior-r1388)
One of my personal favorites in the realm of fantasy. Art's not great(to say the least) but it strikes such strong emotional tones; and has one of my favorite female characters of all time in it.

History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi-r6)
The most consistently underrated of the big manga's and one I just kind of assume everybody has at least tried. If not this should be first on your list. Hilarious and action packed with a ton of fun characters.


Great Teacher Onizuka (aka GTO) (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/great_teacher_onizuka/)
Another one I just assume everybody has read this but if you haven't you should give it a try. It's just a great read even, like me, you prefer more fantasy and action. It's a really good read.

Black Void
November 06, 2012, 02:11 PM
At the moment I read:

Magician (http://www.mangareader.net/1655/magician.html)

It's a story about two young people who meet the infamous mage Eldermask. After an event in their village, they start to travel with him.

First the Art Style is a little bit uncommon but later you'll get a liking of it :hee also there's a lot of fun -> Comedy^^ sometimes its a little bit ruthless but okay.

shinobi
November 06, 2012, 05:22 PM
I miss Tower of God!! few more days to go... sure the coming chapters are worth the time... ^ ^

I think I'll give Superior and Magician a shot too!! :D and I started thinking maybe I gave up in Claymore too soon seeing as most people find it a great read!!

mup
November 06, 2012, 07:22 PM
the anticipation is killing me only 4 more days to go :super

0Xellos
November 07, 2012, 02:42 PM
I had a Claymore marathon last weekend, and I have to say that this manga is damn impressive. It strongly reminded me of Berserk, which is actually a good thing. Now, that I've caught up with the latest release. I need new, manga recommendations. :D

A marathon? I had a sprint! :D
I usually have manga sprints since when I read the first few chapters and I find the work interesting, then I MUST read it till the end. TOG took me a night, I think (it was around the 80th chapter at that time).

Razh
November 07, 2012, 05:09 PM
It's been a while since I like a manga this much. Something about the world and setting. And it just keeps getting better. The comedy is just as good as the action, especially in part 2.

I read it all in 2-3 days (plus all author blog entries I could find). Listened to some liquid dnb. Had a great time.

Not sure whether to stop following it weekly or to wait for it to end and enjoy it all at once. Never had such a tough dilemma so far. (manga-wise)

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I'm just wondering if there's any other Manga/Manhwa that have a world similar to Tower of God at all ( rankings, floors, irregulars/regulars, items, shinsoo ) . Wouldn't have to be those things obviously but just that kind of feel. Idk if that makes sense. One piece is kind of like that with haki(shinsoo) and bountys(rankings) and people with d in their name(irregulars) legendary swords(items) :sanji

I'm having the same problem now. Basically, I want to read another TOG. But since that's impossible...

Apart for others that were mentioned, there's Beelzebub. It's worth a read. Won't talk much about it.

And I recently discovered another manhwa, a webtoon, like TOG. Different theme, more realistic. But still a good read. http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/city-of-dead-sorcerer-r3021

EDIT: As for Claymore, I never got to reading it since I hear most of the characters are women. Makes it hard for me to get involved completely.

mup
November 07, 2012, 08:43 PM
It's been a while since I like a manga this much. Something about the world and setting. And it just keeps getting better. The comedy is just as good as the action, especially in part 2.

I read it all in 2-3 days (plus all author blog entries I could find). Listened to some liquid dnb. Had a great time.

Not sure whether to stop following it weekly or to wait for it to end and enjoy it all at once. Never had such a tough dilemma so far. (manga-wise)

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I'm having the same problem now. Basically, I want to read another TOG. But since that's impossible...

Apart for others that were mentioned, there's Beelzebub. It's worth a read. Won't talk much about it.

And I recently discovered another manhwa, a webtoon, like TOG. Different theme, more realistic. But still a good read. http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/city-of-dead-sorcerer-r3021

EDIT: As for Claymore, I never got to reading it since I hear most of the characters are women. Makes it hard for me to get involved completely.

Really i am the opposite ever since i started reading TOG i have lost interest in any other shonen that how good TOG is for me Not sure you will be able to find something similar to TOG and welcome to the form and Naver webtoon i think you will find it refreshing

k-dom
November 08, 2012, 01:33 AM
Welcome Razh (I think it is one of the rare time I see you outside one piece section since I'm not in narruto and bleach ones :-)
For those who look for good fantasy adventure shonen don't hesitate to have a look to Magi, I would be surprised if you are disapointed. It's a lot better than your average shonen

Edit:btw I don't know when it happened but TOG beat FMA in the favorite shonen on mangaupdates !

Black Void
November 08, 2012, 06:33 AM
A marathon? I had a sprint! :D
I usually have manga sprints since when I read the first few chapters and I find the work interesting, then I MUST read it till the end. TOG took me a night, I think (it was around the 80th chapter at that time).


Welcome in the club. I did the same...around the same amount of chapters :) ToG is awesomes. It sucks you in ;)

naruto-niichan
November 08, 2012, 09:20 AM
Edit:btw I don't know when it happened but TOG beat FMA in the favorite shonen on mangaupdates !

Interesting news but not deserved yet. FMA was a masterpiece, something that can hardly be topped. I'm a die hard fan of ToG and I believe it's not impossible for it to reach FMA's level but it's too early to say. Not that I mind the hype around ToG though.

k-dom
November 08, 2012, 09:44 AM
Well that's mangaupdates notes. If you were to read only the best noted series, 70% of them would be Yaoi...

Razh
November 08, 2012, 10:46 AM
Really i am the opposite ever since i started reading TOG i have lost interest in any other shonen that how good TOG is for me Not sure you will be able to find something similar to TOG and welcome to the form and Naver webtoon i think you will find it refreshing

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not waiting for One Piece, Fairy Tail, HSD Kenichi, Bleach, Beelzebub or Naruto updates, I'm waiting for TOG. I mean the setting and the story is so extensive that you could easilly make an MMORPG out of it. The floors, the bosses, the rankers, the classes (and sub-classes). (And Koreans are probably just crazy enough to make one.)

zelllogan
November 08, 2012, 02:04 PM
+1. I don't feel any excitement waiting for the new One piece, Naruto, whatsover. I'm waiting the new ToG as well.

Black Void
November 08, 2012, 05:17 PM
Is there a good website for ToG Avatars/Signatures?

Uriel
November 08, 2012, 05:23 PM
I'm always expecting, but I've to admit that ToG is so well written that makes some other works a bit...Well, a lot more stupid.

Although I read each one of those for very different reasons, ToG makes me happy when HxH is on Hiatus :O

k-dom
November 08, 2012, 06:33 PM
Well One Piece is still my favorite by far. I could survive the 2 weeks break without to much worries. I must admit the second part impressed me less than the first one appart from the last chapters.
And I would also wish that the tests would take less part in the story from now. I understand it's suppose to go this way but the univers of TOG is so vast that it would be a shame if what we see of it is just tests. So far it's a bit like if we only had hunter exams in HxH or donjon hunting in Magi.

0Xellos
November 09, 2012, 06:31 PM
k-dom: Well the first part was on the floor of test, so it kinda comes with it that it was mostly about tests. But in the 2nd part, I don't feel like there's not enough non-test chapters.

TheBoss
November 09, 2012, 09:34 PM
Tests will always take a good chunk of the plot, because the story is all about showing us how climbing the tower really is. As it was us that were climbing it.
And the plot doesn't necessarily end when they finish all the tests, aka reach the "top" of the tower.
SiU has endless possibilities to explore, lots of cool characters and places to show us, so don't rush things and let the plot grow as it should be.

kakashi65
November 10, 2012, 04:31 PM
Welcome in the club. I did the same...around the same amount of chapters :) ToG is awesomes. It sucks you in ;)
Normally i do the same thing, but luckily this time I was around TOG, when it had like 5 chapters, I liked it from the very beginning, but loved it after ~70 chapters

I can't wait any longer, please SIU don't make any 2 week breaks anymore
half a day to go

naruto-niichan
November 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
Check this out guys:

http://inutero3334.blog.me/140171945268

No translation yet but we know that SIU tries to cheer up people because of the incoming Suneung. (College Scholastic Ability Test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Scholastic_Ability_Test)).

Sounds quite harsh O__o

---------- Post added at 12:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 AM ----------

Seeing that makes me believe that SIU is a really kind person, he has my respect.

shaheer
November 11, 2012, 09:12 AM
man i am bored without new chaps, just after we got to see Lero ro and Quaint

naruto-niichan
November 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
From SIU's twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6Xk64mCUAA4pry.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6ZeivGCcAEWavI.png

haha, can't believe it :XD that's not SIU though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7Bw7m8CYAIH_qe.jpg

SIU in the tweet with the image: "Gyetang looks delicious..."


http://i.imgur.com/4VWlf.jpg

Tweet contained also: "I want some Rice Cake."

zales88
November 11, 2012, 10:06 AM
Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not waiting for One Piece, Fairy Tail, HSD Kenichi, Bleach, Beelzebub or Naruto updates, I'm waiting for TOG. I mean the setting and the story is so extensive that you could easilly make an MMORPG out of it. The floors, the bosses, the rankers, the classes (and sub-classes). (And Koreans are probably just crazy enough to make one.)

I also like ToG maybe my second best (more than Naruto, Bleach .....) but my 1 place is for Noblesse (it's also a Korean Webtoon) if you don't know it check it (don't be repulsed by no dialog in the first few chapters)

Razh
November 11, 2012, 11:36 AM
From SIU's twitter

I saw that on Batoto forum couple of days ago. Don't really like that tattoo. If you're gonna do it right, save up some more money and make a bigger version. The one that would maybe make you shave your back hair, lol.

syx
November 18, 2012, 04:13 PM
Hey guys, what's up?

I started reading ToG two days ago (read all the chapters so far), because I got bored and disappointed with other series I follow.

To make a long story short -> It's really hard for me to describe how beautiful and brilliant ToG is in my eyes.

Due to my fast pacing there are things I don't really get/understand. I read the ToG-Wiki, but the wiki turned out to be more complex for me than I thought, lol.

So, if someone could explain me my questions in the simplest way possible, I would be very thankful.

1. The world of ToG:
Before I began reading ToG, I thought there exists a world (let's say a world like ours, I'm only talking about the geopraphie) and somewhere in this world there is this "magical" tower which you can climb up.
Is this assumption correct? I mean...
Where did people like Hatsu, Koon, Ship and so on live before they entered the Tower?
How do chosen regulars get to the tower, how do they get the info that they are chosen and can climb up the tower?

2. Inner Tower, Outer Tower, Middle Area:
The Outer Tower is described as a residential district. People live there and people are born in the Outer Tower.
Are people born in the Outer Tower already chosen regulars?
Or do they have to be chosen?
What happens if someone is born in the 65F of the Outer Tower and later chosen to climb up the Tower? Do those people climb up the Tower from the 65F or do they start from the second floor?

Rankers are allowed to use the Middle Area to travel between the floors. Koon (not a Ranker, I know) is currently on the 25th floor.
Is he allowed to use the Middle Area to climb up and down between the first and 25th floor?

3. Climbing the Tower in a Team:
Koon (and Rachel) seperated from the Team of Part 1. Now he "created" his own team, recruiting other regulars to climb up the Tower together. I don't quite understand that.
What's the point in forming a team? What is if the Test Director decides to split up the Team in two or more groups and therefore only one group can pass? You know what I mean?

4. Baang, Myun, Soo:
Out of these three, the only one I absolutely don't understand is Baang.
Can someone explain me what Baang is in a simple way using examples? I'm too dumb to understand the explanation in the manhwa or the wiki.
Thank you in advance!

Jammin
November 18, 2012, 05:19 PM
Hey guys, what's up?

I started reading ToG two days ago (read all the chapters so far), because I got bored and disappointed with other series I follow.

To make a long story short -> It's really hard for me to describe how beautiful and brilliant ToG is in my eyes.

Due to my fast pacing there are things I don't really get/understand. I read the ToG-Wiki, but the wiki turned out to be more complex for me than I thought, lol.

So, if someone could explain me my questions in the simplest way possible, I would be very thankful.

1. The world of ToG:
Before I began reading ToG, I thought there exists a world (let's say a world like ours, I'm only talking about the geopraphie) and somewhere in this world there is this "magical" tower which you can climb up.
Is this assumption correct? I mean...
Where did people like Hatsu, Koon, Ship and so on live before they entered the Tower?
How do chosen regulars get to the tower, how do they get the info that they are chosen and can climb up the tower?

2. Inner Tower, Outer Tower, Middle Area:
The Outer Tower is described as a residential district. People live there and people are born in the Outer Tower.
Are people born in the Outer Tower already chosen regulars?
Or do they have to be chosen?
What happens if someone is born in the 65F of the Outer Tower and later chosen to climb up the Tower? Do those people climb up the Tower from the 65F or do they start from the second floor?

Rankers are allowed to use the Middle Area to travel between the floors. Koon (not a Ranker, I know) is currently on the 25th floor.
Is he allowed to use the Middle Area to climb up and down between the first and 25th floor?

3. Climbing the Tower in a Team:
Koon (and Rachel) seperated from the Team of Part 1. Now he "created" his own team, recruiting other regulars to climb up the Tower together. I don't quite understand that.
What's the point in forming a team? What is if the Test Director decides to split up the Team in two or more groups and therefore only one group can pass? You know what I mean?

4. Baang, Myun, Soo:
Out of these three, the only one I absolutely don't understand is Baang.
Can someone explain me what Baang is in a simple way using examples? I'm too dumb to understand the explanation in the manhwa or the wiki.
Thank you in advance!Man, you ask some hard questions.:xp

Most of the stuff you asked I really don't have any answers to. Perhaps if you search the Wikia (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Shinsoo)you can find some clues but, off hand, I just don't know the answers. If those answers have even been given out by SIU yet. I have theories on most of those things, but nothing concrete.

The only question I can answer with a degree of certainty is your last one...

Baang

(Taken from the Wikia (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Shinsoo))

"The Baang is the basic unit of Shinsoo manipulation. The more Baangs one can control, the more skilled at manipulating Shinsoo one is judged to be. However, this does not mean one can manipulation greater Myun and higher Soo with many Baangs. As the number of Baangs increase, control becomes more difficult. Overdoing the handling of Baangs can physically and mentally exhaust the manipulator - in serious case, this may lead to death. If supported by a Lighthouse, the manipulation of the created Baangs can become much easier, but this does not mean the number of Baangs increases"

So, essentially, it's like a unit of measurement for ones ability to control Shinsoo.

Think of it like this. Let's say somebody creates a marble with Shinsoo. The number of marbles you could create would be measured by "Baang", each Baang would represent a single marble ; the more skilled you are the more marbles you can create and control. The size of the marbles would be measured by "Myun" and the hardness (or concentration of Shinsoo) would be measured by "Soo".

At least that's my limited understanding of the concept.:p

Razh
November 18, 2012, 05:24 PM
Well the easiest way to understand Room, or Baang if you will, is to look at it as a single spell. During the game of Tag, Quant was allowed to use only one Room during the test so that Regulars have more chance to pass. In the A test, he used the ability to hide in shadows and in the B test he "stopped" Baam to show him how to use it. If you can remember, Love was surprised Viole can use 2 Rooms at once. Viole stopped Love right after using his Shinsoo Wave attack, whatever it's called.

I read that Enryuu supposedly used 9000 Rooms at once. I imagine he created 9000 red Shinsoo spears which he's famous for.

Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

syx
November 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
Ahhh I get it now. :mono Thanks you two! This Baang thing was really bugging me.


Man, you ask some hard questions.:xp
It's your fault after all. This is the second series I started reading because of your recommendation. :teehee

I didn't realize that the author gives additional information at the end of the chapters. That's something I found out too late. I thought the author maybe answered my questions already. But it seems that this is not the case yet.

Papael
November 19, 2012, 07:49 AM
There's a lot of info about ToG that may help you in Godai's blog in the wikia

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:GoDai

kakashi65
November 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
Just read the webcomic Diamond Dust from Daum. And at their actual webcomic-page they have background music for some chapters, it's like the third or fourth manwha I read with background music, and I can really recommend that manwha, especially chapter 16 was awesome.
But I just thought, wouldn't it be awesome if SIU would also do it sometimes? At sinister places of the manwha a little bit of dark music to get in the mood or something? Do you guys think he'll do something like that maybe in the future?

ThatoneGuy1277
November 20, 2012, 08:11 PM
Just read the webcomic Diamond Dust from Daum. And at their actual webcomic-page they have background music for some chapters, it's like the third or fourth manwha I read with background music, and I can really recommend that manwha, especially chapter 16 was awesome.
But I just thought, wouldn't it be awesome if SIU would also do it sometimes? At sinister places of the manwha a little bit of dark music to get in the mood or something? Do you guys think he'll do something like that maybe in the future?

shit I hope so! If you look up naruto or bleach manga on youtube people get pretty fantastic with splicing in great music and camera scenes for them, and that's just for the manga. I hope someone starts doing that for TOG, I totally would if I had the program to do it. Shit if its free to DL I might still do it, anyone know of any programs that can do it? I'll give it a shot! :D

TheMoa
November 22, 2012, 09:48 AM
So rankers travel between floors trough the middle area, right?

Lero Ro needed 5 years to travel between the 2F and the 77F, while Yuri took only a few minutes to get from wherever she was to the 1F and watch Baam's test.
Now we are kind of expecting Lero Ro to travel form the 77F to the 30F in less then 2 years.
Did he took so many time because he was without a guide or going up takes more time than going down?

syx
November 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
So rankers travel between floors trough the middle area, right?

Lero Ro needed 5 years to travel between the 2F and the 77F, while Yuri took only a few minutes to get from wherever she was to the 1F and watch Baam's test.
Now we are kind of expecting Lero Ro to travel form the 77F to the 30F in less then 2 years.
Did he took so many time because he was without a guide or going up takes more time than going down?

Actually we don't know where exactly Yuri was, before she decided to move to the first floor.
But lets not forget that there is a huge difference between Lero Ro + Quant and Yuri + Evan. Both Yuri and Evan are High Rankers. Additionally Evan is not only just a Guide, the wiki also says that his ranking is in the top 100 amongst the Rankers (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Evan_Edrok), which probably speaks volumes about his abilities as a Guide.

I really think that Guides are very important for traveling purposes.

Where is it mentioned that Lero Ro wants to go to the 30F?

TheMoa
November 22, 2012, 11:18 AM
It's a speculation. Mazino got interested and wanted to keep an eye on Viole, Wing Tree Koon got the call and asked Lero Ro and Quant to come along. So we(fans) are kind of expecting to see them around the 30F to look after Viole on the Workshop Battle.

But yeas, I'm also thinking about the importance of a guide.

noonethere
November 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
@syx
From what I know

SIU has actually created a universe where all his stories occur namely Talse Uzer Story. Tower of God is the first officially released story though not the first one. He wrote several stories all occurring in the same universe but deleted everything when he started ToG probably to avoid spoilers or to amend the original story line or because of the poor quality of the drawing. One of the story mentions does mention the earth but the more relevant one is the Tailse User Story which occurs a world similar to ours. This is what we learn:
- There is an intergalactic war
- There are normal peoples and Exes(superpowerful people with diffferent abilities- only an Exis can defeat an Exis
-Phantonium(the same Irregular in ToG,) is one of the top Five Exis(SIU later mentioned that he is the only Exis in ToG)
- On the planet where Tailse User lives, there are mysterious towers(heavily hinting at ToG) which students clean as a part time job. Whether all these towers each have a world as vaste as ToG or they are all inter related to form the world and level of Tog is unknown. Also I don't know if they are all found on one planet or on several planets
- No mention of Shinsoo



From this we can infer that some of the Irregulars might come from the Tailse User world/s especially those who did not know anything about the tower(e.g. Zahard complains about how the air was boogy in the Tower, indicating that he is not used to shinsoo environment) Baam and Lahel are weird since Lahel knows a lot about the Tower.



As for regulars, they all come from the Outer Tower and are chosen by Headon(based on Headon's own criteria). In the manhua there is a panel where Headon appears before one of the regular{the Ajumma who initially mocked Lessoo} and teleported her to the 2nd floor.So far all regulars know Zahard, so it's unlikely that they come floors above 134. Also all regulars start from floor 2 unlike Irregulars who start from floor 1.Note that each floor is as large as the American continent(both North and South) and only a small percentage gets a chance to climb the tower.

As far as I know only Rankers can move between floors which is why traders rely on them but I may still be wrong.

As for the teams, SIU mentioned some at the end of part one that members make their choice on the 3rd floor.(basically someone asked if the members who passed the 2nd floor test stay together or go apart and SIU answered that it is the third option). Usually tests are done in teams. What is more dangerous in the cases of teams is for cheaters and back stabber as shown in part 2

Hope it helps

Seriously though read the link in Papael post for more details.

Razh
November 23, 2012, 11:05 AM
Just read the webcomic Diamond Dust from Daum. And at their actual webcomic-page they have background music for some chapters, it's like the third or fourth manwha I read with background music, and I can really recommend that manwha, especially chapter 16 was awesome.
But I just thought, wouldn't it be awesome if SIU would also do it sometimes? At sinister places of the manwha a little bit of dark music to get in the mood or something? Do you guys think he'll do something like that maybe in the future?

I heard about some web toons with music but haven't tried reading yet.

Incidentally, when I picked up TOG I was listening to a free album from L.A.O.S. (http://newalbumreleases.net/50513/l-a-o-s-retrospective-2005-2012-2012/) and now I'm unable to read TOG if there's no liquid dnb in the background, lol. Feels so good.

I kept repeating this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleKafALlUY) during crown game. The action came alive!

0Xellos
November 24, 2012, 06:39 PM
Well the easiest way to understand Room, or Baang if you will, is to look at it as a single spell. During the game of Tag, Quant was allowed to use only one Room during the test so that Regulars have more chance to pass. In the A test, he used the ability to hide in shadows and in the B test he "stopped" Baam to show him how to use it. If you can remember, Love was surprised Viole can use 2 Rooms at once. Viole stopped Love right after using his Shinsoo Wave attack, whatever it's called.

I read that Enryuu supposedly used 9000 Rooms at once. I imagine he created 9000 red Shinsoo spears which he's famous for.

Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

It's over 9000! :D

Razh
November 25, 2012, 04:00 AM
It's over 9000! :D

OMG, SIU even wrote that some lightbearer was recording his fight and said he used OVER 9000 rooms, and I didn't even think about Vegeta until now. LMAO! (facepalm)

I wonder if SIU used the number on purpose. :)

naruto-niichan
November 25, 2012, 11:00 AM
I wonder if SIU was bored when he went on a break....

He drew a little comic for the new film Cloud Atlas:

http://movie.naver.com/movie/mzine/cstory.nhn?nid=1566

ThatoneGuy1277
December 01, 2012, 03:31 AM
So I decided to give this a shot. But Camtasia Studio 8 has an issue with audio skipping around. When I paused the video and hit play again the audio clip would start playing in a different spot. This made it impossible to sync up the video frames with the audio like I wanted to. So this is not the finished product I wanted to show because TOG deserves much much better. Does anyone know of a really good video editor? I would love to redo/continue working on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naSG4_g_69k

Please let me know of any editing software you would recommend.

Thanks!

shinsengumi
December 01, 2012, 05:05 AM
adobe premiere for pc , final cut for mac

ThatoneGuy1277
December 01, 2012, 07:20 AM
adobe premiere for pc , final cut for mac

Thanks dude :)

abc1233
December 01, 2012, 07:41 PM
I wonder who the ancestors are of the people who don't belong to the main families, or even the family heads' spouses. Maybe Zahard brought commoners into the tower in addition to the family heads (which would suggest that there are far more irregulars than we previously imagined) or maybe there were already residents in the tower when Zahard entered, but then that would suggest that previously, other people had already conquered these floors.

Monsterguy
December 02, 2012, 07:24 AM
I wonder who the ancestors are of the people who don't belong to the main families, or even the family heads' spouses. Maybe Zahard brought commoners into the tower in addition to the family heads (which would suggest that there are far more irregulars than we previously imagined) or maybe there were already residents in the tower when Zahard entered, but then that would suggest that previously, other people had already conquered these floors.

Well maybe other irregulars might have "passed" some floors, but not conquered and established the connection / link /safe way between those floors for those that are now normaly climbing.

I'm imagining that floors are like planets ordered in line, and if you want to travel accross those planets you must go from planet to planet, in designated order, so:

untill Zahard came there was really hard to pass even 1 floor, which means only a few might have made it, the others all got killed



climbing the floors is like people with limited fuel or power/strength, but without navigation traveling from Earth to Mars - if not for a guardian who gives you direction your body(lets say your body can travel in space with a little higher speed than on Earth) would travel blindly from Earth to Mars and most of the time got lost somewhere in large space, meanwhile when you travel you can NOT carry any food or water with you, so your body would soon be out of power/energy or with my interpritation "fuel", and like that you would be left to die somewhere in space



Zahard and members of 10 great Familys are responsible that now there are artificial transfer points, that lead people from one floor to another, but you must prove to them that you are worthy to be send to the next floor



irregulars are the only people, who might break/twist a lot of rules here, while climbing (I'm imagining them as "metheors" who are falling from the sky - unpredictable and not able to determine their number or content, it might even happen that in some there are living beasts/organizems...:iik) !!!

kakashi65
December 04, 2012, 04:27 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31285998.jpg

Just realised it, Rak told him to get the throne so that he can himself decide whos sitting next to him in chapter 53

So the first idea ever to become the koonfamily head (s2 ch25) came from rak...

0Xellos
December 05, 2012, 11:31 AM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31285998.jpg

Just realised it, Rak told him to get the throne so that he can himself decide whos sitting next to him in chapter 53

So the first idea ever to become the koonfamily head (s2 ch25) came from rak...

Exactly! What makes SIU amazing is how every small event in the story is important.

Dattebayo!
December 06, 2012, 01:47 PM
Hi Turtles!

Well, thanks to Jammin's advice on what to read I have just finished my Tower Of God reading marathon, and I have to say its a great read! I'm looking forward to seeing how things progress.. I am loving the comedy moments (Rak especially) but also the complexity of each character.

All I'm missing at the moment is more of Rak... the guy gives me some genuine laugh out loud moments when reading!

ThatoneGuy1277
December 11, 2012, 10:12 PM
Ok so here is my attempt. Please enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsdxeXpAfyU

naruto-niichan
December 17, 2012, 09:03 AM
Please check out and participate in Mangahelpers Anime Awards 2012 (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/931-Manga-and-Anime-Awards) :blai

Support your favourites and make them win :3c

Uriel
December 17, 2012, 09:07 AM
You won me, I was just to post it. :P
And well, nominate your asses off! I tend to forgot the names, but once you post them I support lol

Let's give some Viole to this awards <3

ukimix
December 26, 2012, 02:10 AM
Hi people. I just have read all published chapters of ToG and… I like it so much. I like the story a lot. In the beginning I welcomed with easy the idea of a tower that gives you what you wish once you have climb it together with the idea of the tests to reach the last floor. But, very soon Baam seemed to me a so basic character, so plain, almost a saint, incapable of any passion beyond to feel love for Rachel. So I was not sure about it. But when Baam got betrayed by Rachel, the connection with the story was complete. Beyond the fact that Viole is being blackmailed, the guy has a problem to solve about Rachel, and also about his beloved friends. There is tension and for sure mixed and intense feelings inside him.

Also in the beginning I was not reading the notes at the end of each chapter. I thought: “the comic would have to tell the story itself alone, if text in prose is needed, then it’s not a comic”. But later, I found the information was some kind of support for the reading of the comic, so I relaxed with the end notes. Since that happened around the chapter 90, I have missed a lot of important information. Luckily you guys have a nice thread here, dedicated to all this texts SIU has written in his blog. Very useful.

Those notes have added complexity to the ToG universe. At the beginning the story seemed to be about a bunch of kids engaged trapped in an artificial and not fully believable situation called Tower-of-God. But the texts are rich in details; the Tower has a history, has a structure, there are several political powers involved, and a whole bestiary that includes humans and several characters with differente shapes, abilities and levels of power, among many other things. All those details turns the ToG universe into one much more believable.

In general, I don’t like the drawings, although I have found some really nice panels (for instance, those about Urek Mazino). But in other cases the drawing is so poor that you fairly can wonder if the author knows about perspective, and drawing emotions. To me, the drawings of Rachel are usually the worst, with a complete lack of characterization of her emotions. But maybe that is related to her personality.

The best character I enjoy the most is Wangnang. And I found much more lovely Viole’s team than Baam’s team.

I have these questions:


How many floors does the tower have?
When does the 1000 years period of the current Lord end?
What day do we have spoilers?

abc1233
December 26, 2012, 10:40 AM
Hi people. I just have read all published chapters of ToG and… I like it so much. I like the story a lot. In the beginning I welcomed with easy the idea of a tower that gives you what you wish once you have climb it together with the idea of the tests to reach the last floor. But, very soon Baam seemed to me a so basic character, so plain, almost a saint, incapable of any passion beyond to feel love for Rachel. So I was not sure about it. But when Baam got betrayed by Rachel, the connection with the story was complete. Beyond the fact that Viole is being blackmailed, the guy has a problem to solve about Rachel, and also about his beloved friends. There is tension and for sure mixed and intense feelings inside him.

Also in the beginning I was not reading the notes at the end of each chapter. I thought: “the comic would have to tell the story itself alone, if text in prose is needed, then it’s not a comic”. But later, I found the information was some kind of support for the reading of the comic, so I relaxed with the end notes. Since that happened around the chapter 90, I have missed a lot of important information. Luckily you guys have a nice thread here, dedicated to all this texts SIU has written in his blog. Very useful.

Those notes have added complexity to the ToG universe. At the beginning the story seemed to be about a bunch of kids engaged trapped in an artificial and not fully believable situation called Tower-of-God. But the texts are rich in details; the Tower has a history, has a structure, there are several political powers involved, and a whole bestiary that includes humans and several characters with differente shapes, abilities and levels of power, among many other things. All those details turns the ToG universe into one much more believable.

In general, I don’t like the drawings, although I have found some really nice panels (for instance, those about Urek Mazino). But in other cases the drawing is so poor that you fairly can wonder if the author knows about perspective, and drawing emotions. To me, the drawings of Rachel are usually the worst, with a complete lack of characterization of her emotions. But maybe that is related to her personality.

The best character I enjoy the most is Wangnang. And I found much more lovely Viole’s team than Baam’s team.

I have these questions:


How many floors does the tower have?
When does the 1000 years period of the current Lord end?
What day do we have spoilers?


1) no one knows, but the highest floor that Zahard's empire has reached is 134th I think, so technically no one has really reached the top of the tower
2) Again, don't think its been mentioned
3) Raws always come out on sunday, then we get a quick translation and scan within a few hours of it releasing, so there are no spoilers as such before the raws come out The proper quality scans by the company take quite a while though.

0Xellos
December 26, 2012, 05:04 PM
Ukimix:
Glad to see another follower :D
And I'm surprised that you like Wangnan. He's mostly being bashed at (it seems to me) because he's being hyped mostly story-wise, but he doesn't seem exceptionally strong, and there are still no revelations about him. At first, the 3-eye ring he had seemed to imply his relation to Zahard of some kind, but seeing the same ring on Karaka confused the public even more. But I'm not damning him, and patiently waiting for his revelations (which I doubt are going to come any time soon :D).
Art... true. Art is significantly lacking in (not only) this manhwa. It has been getting better, though. As long as Androssi keeps up the S1 quality :D

1) It's been mentioned how there are agressive guardians on higher floors, so Zahard himself stopped climbing. But the top of the Tower is quite an important theme, as Rachel and Urek want to go there and outside, so I guess it's going to be revealed eventually.
SIU is the king of trolls, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were 135 floors :D
2) On TOG wikia (not canon, but it pretty much merges SIU's blogposts, so it's simpler to search there), it's written that "the next floor will probably be conquered when the next lord (Joochun, the progressive one) start his period, since Mollic One is a conservative one", which could partly answer your question (and relate it to the previous one :D), not in the term of years, which aren't as important, because time flows differently in the Tower and there are many timeskips, but in the term of story - when Baam's already reached 134F, royally (pun intended) messed up the Tower and it's time to move closer to the top.

ukimix
December 26, 2012, 10:52 PM
0Xellos:

Glad to see you here too. :-)

I like Wangnang mostly because he is son funny. In terms of comedy, he is an achievement of this manhwa. But he is not a clown; he has also a big determination, and he is capable of been a really brave an noble friend, like when he told Ha Jinsung, in the name of all his mates, that they have decided to keep teaming up with Viole, even knowing that Ha Jinsung could killed him in the moment. He is really great.

About the top of the tower I got a bit confused in the beginning. I understand now that there are more than 134 floors, just that nobody has approved the test of 134th floor. So when a Ranker is defined as a person that has reached the top of the tower I understand that the definition refers to the fact that that person reached the last floor ever reached for someone in the Tower, i.e the 134th floor. But if there is a test in the 134th floor, sure there must be a 135 floor, or somewhere to go once you aprove that test. So Ranker is much more an institutional job inside the current government, than any other thing. (But if somethinig of these points are wrog I really would like to know it).

Thanks for the data about wikia, about the ring of karaka (I missed it) and about the flow of time. I would like to read further about them. I will search in that wikia, and in the thread about the notes posted by SIU. But if you have quick links to them I appreciate it :-)

Happy new year for you an and for the followers of ToG. :^_^

naruto-niichan
December 27, 2012, 06:13 AM
Hi people. I just have read all published chapters of ToG and… I like it so much. I like the story a lot. In the beginning I welcomed with easy the idea of a tower that gives you what you wish once you have climb it together with the idea of the tests to reach the last floor. But, very soon Baam seemed to me a so basic character, so plain, almost a saint, incapable of any passion beyond to feel love for Rachel. So I was not sure about it. But when Baam got betrayed by Rachel, the connection with the story was complete. Beyond the fact that Viole is being blackmailed, the guy has a problem to solve about Rachel, and also about his beloved friends. There is tension and for sure mixed and intense feelings inside him.

Also in the beginning I was not reading the notes at the end of each chapter. I thought: “the comic would have to tell the story itself alone, if text in prose is needed, then it’s not a comic”. But later, I found the information was some kind of support for the reading of the comic, so I relaxed with the end notes. Since that happened around the chapter 90, I have missed a lot of important information. Luckily you guys have a nice thread here, dedicated to all this texts SIU has written in his blog. Very useful.

In general, I don’t like the drawings, although I have found some really nice panels (for instance, those about Urek Mazino). But in other cases the drawing is so poor that you fairly can wonder if the author knows about perspective, and drawing emotions. To me, the drawings of Rachel are usually the worst, with a complete lack of characterization of her emotions. But maybe that is related to her personality.

The best character I enjoy the most is Wangnang. And I found much more lovely Viole’s team than Baam’s team.

Funny how your opinion seems to differ compared to a lot of people here :XD

Most people seem to prefer the old Baam and his old group. There rarely is anyone who's a big fan of Wangnan too. Personally I think he's one of the weakest characters because despite SIU saying he would focus more on him, I felt like he was the one character that lacked significant spotlight. It's one of the rare times were I feel like SIU failed a bit.

I honestly don't want to compare manga/manhwa but ToG strongly reminds me of Berserk in one aspect.
A rather slow character and world build but when shit gets serious everything turns out awesome exactly because of that slow build. Strong characters make the impact so much bigger and SIU usually delivers that quality. The world and character build is, without a doubt, ToG's strongest feature and the reason why it became that popular over here.

We might not have that big of a fanbase compared to other sections like Naruto or One Piece but the people here form a strong and dedicated group. I'm pretty sure you will love it over here, as much as I do.
And ofc welcome to the ToG section, new fans are always much appreciated :confetti

abc1233
December 27, 2012, 09:18 AM
Funny how your opinion seems to differ compared to a lot of people here :XD

Most people seem to prefer the old Baam and his old group. There rarely is anyone who's a big fan of Wangnan too. Personally I think he's one of the weakest characters because despite SIU saying he would focus more on him, I felt like he was the one character that lacked significant spotlight. It's one of the rare times were I feel like SIU failed a bit.

I honestly don't want to compare manga/manhwa but ToG strongly reminds me of Berserk in one aspect.
A rather slow character and world build but when shit gets serious everything turns out awesome exactly because of that slow build. Strong characters make the impact so much bigger and SIU usually delivers that quality. The world and character build is, without a doubt, ToG's strongest feature and the reason why it became that popular over here.

We might not have that big of a fanbase compared to other sections like Naruto or One Piece but the people here form a strong and dedicated group. I'm pretty sure you will love it over here, as much as I do.
And ofc welcome to the ToG section, new fans are always much appreciated :confetti

I'm personally not much of a fan of him either, but I wouldn't say SIU has failed. I don't think it was his intention to make him a character that readers would particularly like (though he does have his moments), I think SIU's intention for Wangnan was to make him out to be cliche yet suspicious, which he has succeeded in imo. There have been major hints of there being more to Wangnan than meets the eye, SIU has made that obvious, so I wouldn't lose hope in him yet.

kadodo
December 27, 2012, 05:02 PM
1) Apparently Baam said at one point in the series that he was born in a dark place by himself. Any he said that he was trying to build a tower to get out of that dark place but with no success. Do you guys think that someone was trying to hide Baam down there? What if his parents are not really dead?

2) Based on the recent chapters, can we say that Viole is strong because of his own powers or because of a possible ignition weapon that was given to him?

Reclaimer
December 27, 2012, 06:25 PM
1) Apparently Baam said at one point in the series that he was born in a dark place by himself. Any he said that he was trying to build a tower to get out of that dark place but with no success. Do you guys think that someone was trying to hide Baam down there? What if his parents are not really dead?
Don't forget that there was a Zahard symbol on the wall (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/28).



2) Based on the recent chapters, can we say that Viole is strong because of his own powers or because of a possible ignition weapon that was given to him?
Or it could be both.

abc1233
December 27, 2012, 07:08 PM
1) Apparently Baam said at one point in the series that he was born in a dark place by himself. Any he said that he was trying to build a tower to get out of that dark place but with no success. Do you guys think that someone was trying to hide Baam down there? What if his parents are not really dead?

2) Based on the recent chapters, can we say that Viole is strong because of his own powers or because of a possible ignition weapon that was given to him?

1) Who knows, we don't have much to go on. He could have been hidden there, he could have been imprisoned there, we don't even know where there is. Aside from the zahard symbol and that panel of Rachel's hair being pulled, we don't have many hints.

2) It's either both or solely because of his own power. I say that because we can't say for sure whether the thing inside him is only useful if it's activated, or whether it gives him a passive boost in shinsoo manipulation/strength all the time. We know that prior to getting it, he was already a genius so even if he came this far just on his own strength, it wouldn't be too surprising. When he can fully control the thing, then the full extent of his powers will certainly be due to both.

kadodo
December 27, 2012, 08:00 PM
Don't forget that there was a Zahard symbol on the wall (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/28).


Or it could be both.

Thanks I never noticed that symbol before. Baam is surely the character with the most secrets in this comic....

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1) Who knows, we don't have much to go on. He could have been hidden there, he could have been imprisoned there, we don't even know where there is. Aside from the zahard symbol and that panel of Rachel's hair being pulled, we don't have many hints.

2) It's either both or solely because of his own power. I say that because we can't say for sure whether the thing inside him is only useful if it's activated, or whether it gives him a passive boost in shinsoo manipulation/strength all the time. We know that prior to getting it, he was already a genius so even if he came this far just on his own strength, it wouldn't be too surprising. When he can fully control the thing, then the full extent of his powers will certainly be due to both.

1) Yeah I think we will just to have to wait and see where Baam originated. However what did you mean about Rachel's hair?
2)As of right now, I am starting to think that it was mostly Baam's power as well. I just hope that the power inside does not destroy him..

Reclaimer
December 27, 2012, 08:11 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Rachel knows that Koon knows she can walk and that she was involved in Baam's "death"? She'd know because she would do the exact same thing he does to her: spy on him with her lighthouse. (She has very little else to do with her time than screw around with her lighthouse, so I assume she is a top tier lightbearer at this point though no one might not know that but her. She'd train with her free time because if things fall apart on her, she'd be insanely under powered for whichever level of the tower she is on.)

The additional piece of evidence is the scene with her laughing (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/105/35) right after Koon gives his speech about why he is climbing the tower. Yes, she could just be crazy, but the timing is way too coincidental for her not to be laughing at how absurd the situation is since both of them know about the other.

kadodo
December 27, 2012, 11:05 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Rachel knows that Koon knows she can walk and that she was involved in Baam's "death"? She'd know because she would do the exact same thing he does to her: spy on him with her lighthouse. (She has very little else to do with her time than screw around with her lighthouse, so I assume she is a top tier lightbearer at this point though no one might not know that but her. She'd train with her free time because if things fall apart on her, she'd be insanely under powered for whichever level of the tower she is on.)

The additional piece of evidence is the scene with her laughing (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/105/35) right after Koon gives his speech about why he is climbing the tower. Yes, she could just be crazy, but the timing is way too coincidental for her not to be laughing at how absurd the situation is since both of them know about the other.

I do not think she knows. I do not see how she could. Koon and Ship are very careful about how they communicate. I can only see two possible ways that Rachel can know:
1: Someone is able to hear Koon's conversations with his crew or with Ship
2: Someone from Koon's ship betrayed him.

And besides nobody is better at lying than Koon. lol

Reclaimer
December 27, 2012, 11:17 PM
I do not think she knows. I do not see how she could. Koon and Ship are very careful about how they communicate. I can only see two possible ways that Rachel can know:
1: Someone is able to hear Koon's conversations with his crew or with Ship
2: Someone from Koon's ship betrayed him.

And besides nobody is better at lying than Koon. lol
In the 2-3 pages before she starts laughing, Koon tells his team about how she killed his best friend. This conversation appears to be taking place in the same house in which they are currently residing making spying on said conversation absurdly easy.

THM Nindo
December 27, 2012, 11:23 PM
In the 2-3 pages before she starts laughing, Koon tells his team about how she killed his best friend. This conversation appears to be taking place in the same house in which they are currently residing making spying on said conversation absurdly easy.

Please don't remind me of this insane laugh.
I'll have nightmares again! :s

THM Nindo
December 27, 2012, 11:25 PM
Wangnam is the shonen cliché.
He's weak and he wants to change the way the world works.

Although, there has been some hints that he might somehow end up being important (maybe a prince of Zahard?)

kadodo
December 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
In the 2-3 pages before she starts laughing, Koon tells his team about how she killed his best friend. This conversation appears to be taking place in the same house in which they are currently residing making spying on said conversation absurdly easy.

I agree that the conversation could be in the same house, however if Koon knows that Rachel can really walk, he would make sure to have a meeting where she can't hear them. And also Rachel would not risk walking freely except inside her own room. But who knows anything could happen.

abc1233
December 28, 2012, 07:10 AM
Thanks I never noticed that symbol before. Baam is surely the character with the most secrets in this comic....

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1) Yeah I think we will just to have to wait and see where Baam originated. However what did you mean about Rachel's hair?
2)As of right now, I am starting to think that it was mostly Baam's power as well. I just hope that the power inside does not destroy him..

1) Can't remember the exact chapter, but I think it was in the crown test where Baam freely manipulates shinsoo to blind Hwa Ryun. There was a single panel showing someone with quite large hands grabbing Rachel by the hair and it seems to be from the time when she was in the cave.
2) I doubt it'll destroy him. FUG only gave him a small fragment of it, destroying Baam is the last thing they want.


I do not think she knows. I do not see how she could. Koon and Ship are very careful about how they communicate. I can only see two possible ways that Rachel can know:
1: Someone is able to hear Koon's conversations with his crew or with Ship
2: Someone from Koon's ship betrayed him.

And besides nobody is better at lying than Koon. lol

I wouldn't be too sure. Based on the hide and seek test, Rachel seems to be a genius light bearer, much better than Koon at least, plus I think she took first seed. She could certainly be spying on Koon without him knowing

TheBoss
December 28, 2012, 10:20 AM
Wangnam is the shonen cliché.
He's weak and he wants to change the way the world works.

Although, there has been some hints that he might somehow end up being important (maybe a prince of Zahard?)
Well dont let SiU fool you, my friend! He always surprises us with the most unusual people, and Wangnam falls into that category ^^
He is weak, has his ideals, and no one knows about his past, perfect for a betrayal.
And being able to hurt baam even if it was luck it means he is no pushover

kadodo
December 28, 2012, 11:09 AM
1) Can't remember the exact chapter, but I think it was in the crown test where Baam freely manipulates shinsoo to blind Hwa Ryun. There was a single panel showing someone with quite large hands grabbing Rachel by the hair and it seems to be from the time when she was in the cave.






1) ok thanks I'll try to find that chapter.


Who do you guys think could have possibly told Emile that 25th Baam was alive?

Uriel
December 28, 2012, 12:04 PM
It's interesting that Baam seems to be a little bit weak against weapons that doesn't require Shinsoo, but I don't credit Wangnam as strong for it.

abc1233
December 28, 2012, 01:58 PM
1) ok thanks I'll try to find that chapter.


Who do you guys think could have possibly told Emile that 25th Baam was alive?
Well, FUG is pretty much the only group who we know for sure know about Baam being alive. But then there are others who could potentially know, like Wangnan (if he has connections, then it wouldn't be too difficult for him to find out Viole's real name since he already knows that he's an irregular), Repellista, Yuri, and Rachel (she could have known that Baam would survive, SIU once said that she was his favourite character so she may be redeemed later on somehow). I'm guessing any of these could be it, but I'd personally go for Repellista, in one of the previous panels in that chapter it does sort of hint towards it being her.

Razh
December 28, 2012, 02:13 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Rachel knows that Koon knows she can walk and that she was involved in Baam's "death"? She'd know because she would do the exact same thing he does to her: spy on him with her lighthouse. (She has very little else to do with her time than screw around with her lighthouse, so I assume she is a top tier lightbearer at this point though no one might not know that but her. She'd train with her free time because if things fall apart on her, she'd be insanely under powered for whichever level of the tower she is on.)

The additional piece of evidence is the scene with her laughing (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/105/35) right after Koon gives his speech about why he is climbing the tower. Yes, she could just be crazy, but the timing is way too coincidental for her not to be laughing at how absurd the situation is since both of them know about the other.

I don't think Koon is that careless.

But speaking of Rachel, I keep wondering whatever happened to Akryung. The guy was supposed to be something like her bodyguard and yet there's no sign of him. Unless he was just supposed to protect her in the beginning and then moved on. I have trouble imagining him together with the main team. But then again, who knows. He's one of the most mysterius and itriguing characters that appeared so far. The fact that he's an irregular only adds to that.

Reclaimer
December 28, 2012, 04:07 PM
I agree that the conversation could be in the same house, however if Koon knows that Rachel can really walk, he would make sure to have a meeting where she can't hear them. And also Rachel would not risk walking freely except inside her own room. But who knows anything could happen.
Unless Koon has multiple islands, the building in which they are having that conversation is on the same island as Rachel is on (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/105/25). That makes her spying on the meeting not particularly difficult, especially if she has spent the last 6 years improving her lighbearer skills.


But speaking of Rachel, I keep wondering whatever happened to Akryung. The guy was supposed to be something like her bodyguard and yet there's no sign of him. Unless he was just supposed to protect her in the beginning and then moved on. I have trouble imagining him together with the main team. But then again, who knows. He's one of the most mysterius and itriguing characters that appeared so far. The fact that he's an irregular only adds to that.
Him being a regular is not a fact. It is a theory with at least some basis but some problems. Don't take this statement (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/56/22) too seriously since:
A) It ignores the fact that Rachel is an irregular (or is an irregular irregular since the Tower did not choose her (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/76/22), nor did Headon.)
B) It is grammatically possible that both apply to Rachel. (the main reason anyone thinks otherwise is the presence of Akryung's picture)
C) Akryung is someone Headon sent with Rachel. (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/77/17) Unless Headon has Phantaminium, Enryu, or some other Irregular stashed away and some way to compel them to help Rachel, him being an irregular doesn't make a lot of sense.

Razh
December 28, 2012, 05:10 PM
Him being a regular is not a fact. It is a theory with at least some basis but some problems. Don't take this statement (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/56/22) too seriously since:
A) It ignores the fact that Rachel is an irregular (or is an irregular irregular since the Tower did not choose her (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/76/22), nor did Headon.)
B) It is grammatically possible that both apply to Rachel. (the main reason anyone thinks otherwise is the presence of Akryung's picture)
C) Akryung is someone Headon sent with Rachel. (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/77/17) Unless Headon has Phantaminium, Enryu, or some other Irregular stashed away and some way to compel them to help Rachel, him being an irregular doesn't make a lot of sense.

The statement is pretty straightforward. Akryung's picture is there for a reason. Why refer to Rachel as "an irregular and a girl" when we al know that she's a girl? Maybe it has to do with the translation but I doubt that. The way it was drawn and written, "irregular" part applies to Akryung, since his picture is there, simple as that. Plus, it's Lero-ro's words. He can't know that Akryung was ordered by Headon to protect Rachel.

Of course, the fact that Lero-ro think he's an irregular, doesn't prove that he is one. I think he is. Maybe it's not really a fact, but since he was referred to as one, I don't have much of a reason to doubt it. So far, anyway.

Perhaps Headon does stop irregulars from advancing from time to time. They can't all be super strong, like Mazino and others. It is funny he had a bodyguard ready for Rach. It's really hard to discuss this because we know too little about Headon and his plans.

TheBoss
December 28, 2012, 07:03 PM
It's interesting that Baam seems to be a little bit weak against weapons that doesn't require Shinsoo, but I don't credit Wangnam as strong for it.
Being the only one besides Urek that actually did something like hurting baam? Well I give credit to him by that ^^

Razh
December 28, 2012, 08:33 PM
It's interesting that Baam seems to be a little bit weak against weapons that doesn't require Shinsoo, but I don't credit Wangnam as strong for it.

I don't think he's any weaker against bombs than any other person. It's just that he seems to be immune to Shinsoo bombs. Which isn't surprising, seeing how he was the only one that Lero-ro's Shinsoo push didn't affect. I think most of the other people suffer more damage from Shinsoo bombs but don't suffer any less damage from normal bobms than Baam did. Am I making sense with that? It's kinda late and I'm too tired to go over that sentence again, lol.

abc1233
December 28, 2012, 09:19 PM
I don't think he's any weaker against bombs than any other person. It's just that he seems to be immune to Shinsoo bombs. Which isn't surprising, seeing how he was the only one that Lero-ro's Shinsoo push didn't affect. I think most of the other people suffer more damage from Shinsoo bombs but don't suffer any less damage from normal bobms than Baam did. Am I making sense with that? It's kinda late and I'm too tired to go over that sentence again, lol.

That does make sense, but then wouldn't that mean that if one of those bombs hit a ranker, or even Urek for example, even they would be critically injured? Unless if they have some superhuman body (seem to remember Quant saying something about that, but was he just referring to shinsoo strengthening?).

Reclaimer
December 28, 2012, 09:52 PM
Why refer to Rachel as "an irregular and a girl" when we al know that she's a girl?
You need the reference to her being a girl or the following sentence about Baam chasing her does not make any sense.



The way it was drawn and written, "irregular" part applies to Akryung, since his picture is there, simple as that.
I must have missed the arrows where the statement is explicitly connected to his picture.


Of course, the fact that Lero-ro think he's an irregular, doesn't prove that he is one.
Especially since his source of information is almost certainly a secondhand report of Quant's delivered by Yu Han Sung (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/14/1). And note, Quant didn't specify which person was an irregular, nor did he say they were two. Between Rachel and Akryung, Akryung definitely looks the part of an irregular more than Rachel.



Perhaps Headon does stop irregulars from advancing from time to time. They can't all be super strong, like Mazino and others.
If he isn't super strong, how exactly is he a useful bodyguard?


It is funny he had a bodyguard ready for Rach.
Or he is a shinsoo creation.

Razh
December 29, 2012, 05:45 AM
That does make sense, but then wouldn't that mean that if one of those bombs hit a ranker, or even Urek for example, even they would be critically injured? Unless if they have some superhuman body (seem to remember Quant saying something about that, but was he just referring to shinsoo strengthening?).

Well it's too early to compare Baam to high rankers, especially the one that holds 3rd place. If I remember, it was Hatsu that determined something like that, while he was fighting Quant. Don't have time to look for it. Maybe Rankers develop some kind of toughness as they challenge higher floors and move through denser Shinsoo.

Razh
December 29, 2012, 06:51 AM
You need the reference to her being a girl or the following sentence about Baam chasing her does not make any sense.

It depends how you look at it. Akryung's pic makes even less sense if he's not even mentioned. Twist it all you want.


I must have missed the arrows where the statement is explicitly connected to his picture.

Throwing around useless sarcasm isn't in any way helping a normal discussion. You know as well as I do that SIU doesn't use any arrows. Nor does he need to. Pictures have a reason for being there, just like the text.



since his source of information is almost certainly a secondhand report of Quant's delivered by Yu Han Sung (http://mangapirate.net/Tower_of_God/14/1). And note, Quant didn't specify which person was an irregular, nor did he say they were two. Between Rachel and Akryung, Akryung definitely looks the part of an irregular more than Rachel.

Well that's what I said, didn't I. It's not a confirmed information. I just happen to think, or hope that Akryung is an irregular that has some kind of agreement with Headon and who will be a major opponent later in the story. From that guy's appearance, I can't imagine him being a good guy. Well, yes I can, but it would look extremely awkward. :p



If he isn't super strong, how exactly is he a useful bodyguard?

There are levels of strength. If he, for example, isn't strong enough to pass by Headon, it doesn't mean he's not strong enough to be a bodyguard. But then again, we don't really know how Enryuu, Urek and Phantaminum passed through 1st flloor. I mean did they just pass by Headon with him not being able to stop them or did he let them pass by.


Or he is a shinsoo creation.

At this point anything's possible. I just think he's an irregular, I don't really care about it enough to continue discussion even more.

abc1233
December 29, 2012, 06:57 AM
Well it's too early to compare Baam to high rankers, especially the one that holds 3rd place. If I remember, it was Hatsu that determined something like that, while he was fighting Quant. Don't have time to look for it. Maybe Rankers develop some kind of toughness as they challenge higher floors and move through denser Shinsoo.

Well if their bodies are still essentially human then Baam could still be compared to Urek, even if his shinsoo resistance/enhancements are on a completely different level they would be affected by the bomb equally. If their bodies do get stronger as they challenge higher floors, then it could explain why that bomb was effective. Baam already had no problem with shinsoo pressure even when his body was still weak, so when he was climbing to 20th floor, the denser shinsoo didn't put any extra pressure on his body to improve, hence his body is still like it was on the 2nd floor. That could mean that an average 20th floor regular's body is essentially considered superhuman to one on the 2nd floor. Just a theory though.

0Xellos
December 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
I heard somewhere that it was made canon (I don't sound very convincing, right? :D) that Rachel was the meant irregular.

Razh
December 31, 2012, 01:27 PM
Maybe it's a common trait among irregulars. We're led to believe that all of them are super strong, or at least have insane control over Shinsoo (Don't know what the deal with Rachel is.). Is it because they are coming from an environment without Shinsoo? Maybe that's why the people who live inside the tower are more vulnerable to Shinsoo attacks and the people who come outside aren't affected by it that much. Still brings up a question of why they are so good at manipulating with it.

FrostyMouse
December 31, 2012, 03:11 PM
We have seen in the character cards that a lot of the Rankers have more physical enhancements, but some don't. Physically, Yu Han Sung is inept, even more inept than some of the 2nd Floor Regulars, although his physical reinforcement, whatever that actually means, is A-rank, so take that as you will.

Reclaimer
January 01, 2013, 04:59 PM
Throwing around useless sarcasm isn't in any way helping a normal discussion.
Neither does b.s. statements that something is "as simple as that" when it is, in fact, not that simple.

Reclaimer
January 01, 2013, 05:03 PM
Well it's too early to compare Baam to high rankers, especially the one that holds 3rd place. If I remember, it was Hatsu that determined something like that, while he was fighting Quant. Don't have time to look for it. Maybe Rankers develop some kind of toughness as they challenge higher floors and move through denser Shinsoo.
I remember what you are talking about, but there is always the chicken and the egg issue: Do rankers have insane bodies because they develop it, or do people with insane bodies become rankers? (Given the absurdly low percentages of regulars that become rankers, it makes sense for them to be the people well outside the normal bell curve)

Razh
January 01, 2013, 06:18 PM
Neither does b.s. statements that something is "as simple as that" when it is, in fact, not that simple.

Nobody made you discuss with me. It was your own decision to get into a discussion like it really matters. Why so agitated? Chill out, bro. Happy new year.

Razh
January 01, 2013, 06:30 PM
I remember what you are talking about, but there is always the chicken and the egg issue: Do rankers have insane bodies because they develop it, or do people with insane bodies become rankers? (Given the absurdly low percentages of regulars that become rankers, it makes sense for them to be the people well outside the normal bell curve)

I think some people have natural strength and toughness while others kinda strengthen up while getting used to higher Shinsoo concentration. But then again, are stronger people coming from the environments with heavier Shinsoo? I remember Koon saying that Rak should be able to pass through Lero-ro's wall easy since he's been swimming through Shinsoo to hunt all his life.
Funny thing is, I don't think even SIU himself bothered too much with this subject. People just need to have some amount of physical readiness in order to climb to 134th floor. We have yet to see a physically weak Ranker. I suppose those that are weaker, like Yu Han Sung (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Yu_Han_Sung?file=Yuhansung.jpg) make up for it with Shinsoo strengthening. For those that read Naruto, closest example would be Sakura. She's more of a cerebral type, but thanks to that, she has great chakra control and can produce devastating physical attacks.

0Xellos
January 02, 2013, 11:15 AM
I remember what you are talking about, but there is always the chicken and the egg issue: Do rankers have insane bodies because they develop it, or do people with insane bodies become rankers? (Given the absurdly low percentages of regulars that become rankers, it makes sense for them to be the people well outside the normal bell curve)

I believe it's both. You need to be base superior to most residents of the Tower to get chosen and pass the first tests, but then, you need want to strengthen your body to become a ranker and after you become one, and the more you do so, the stronger your body should get. After becoming a ranker, you have an eternity ahead of you, and you're free to train as much as you want.
The 2 factors you mention are "talent" and "hard work" - the more talent you have, the less hard work you need to reach a given level. And there's also another - as Lero Ro mentioned, "luck" - there are chance events which allow you to pull ahead of those that are about as strong as you.

Mr. Arashi
January 09, 2013, 11:09 AM
If Rachel wants climb all the tower to see the night sky with stars. Mazino wants go outside the tower and he already climbed it and maybe saw that sky, but couldn't escape of it. Right Devil-kun woke up while he was taken and said he saw the god of the tower, it means was the summit of it.

That sky is false and still is in the interior of the tower. Interesting that even that is cunningly made to surprise us.

0Xellos
January 09, 2013, 01:33 PM
If Rachel wants climb all the tower to see the night sky with stars. Mazino wants go outside the tower and he already climbed it and maybe saw that sky, but couldn't escape of it. Right Devil-kun woke up while he was taken and said he saw the god of the tower, it means was the summit of it.

That sky is false and still is in the interior of the tower. Interesting that even that is cunningly made to surprise us.

I think Urek comes from the outside, that's why he knows about it.

"the god of the Tower" (or "the true master of the Tower") obviously referred to Headon, who was in the pic and is the main enigma of the series. Regulars are taken right to 2F, no way he could've seen the summit.

TheBoss
January 09, 2013, 01:53 PM
If Rachel wants climb all the tower to see the night sky with stars. Mazino wants go outside the tower and he already climbed it and maybe saw that sky, but couldn't escape of it. Right Devil-kun woke up while he was taken and said he saw the god of the tower, it means was the summit of it.

That sky is false and still is in the interior of the tower. Interesting that even that is cunningly made to surprise us.
Well technically if what we saw on the TuS is true, we have already seen the outside of the tower ^^
But the summit as it is, is just a place that the Zahard family stated. The real summit must be over the 134 floor

Mr. Arashi
January 09, 2013, 07:25 PM
[...]

"the god of the Tower" (or "the true master of the Tower") obviously referred to Headon, who was in the pic and is the main enigma of the series. Regulars are taken right to 2F, no way he could've seen the summit.I don't think Headon is the main master of the tower. When he did the that contract with Rachel was strange about how someone allow a observer in a fight, even hiding it. That act it was like he recognized Baam and his destiny and was is part of Fug or maybe something more higher. If i recall, Zahard was the first climber of the Tower, but he didn't created. It was someone who put rocks above each one and made it... just like Baam when Rachel found him... I'm sure that there is a Tower's basement and Baam was there.

Razh
January 10, 2013, 03:30 AM
Maybe not a real master, but he certainly has a real authority over it. Appearing anywhere he wants, floating in the air and selecting candidates like a boss. He's like a doorman of an apartment building, except with more power to decide who can live there. I'm not sure if he can kick people out, though. Wouldn't he already do that with some of the irregulars if he could?

shinsengumi
January 10, 2013, 04:31 AM
maybe he was the master of the tower before king zahard climbed it

0Xellos
January 10, 2013, 11:52 AM
I don't think Headon is the main master of the tower. When he did the that contract with Rachel was strange about how someone allow a observer in a fight, even hiding it. That act it was like he recognized Baam and his destiny and was is part of Fug or maybe something more higher. If i recall, Zahard was the first climber of the Tower, but he didn't created. It was someone who put rocks above each one and made it... just like Baam when Rachel found him... I'm sure that there is a Tower's basement and Baam was there.

Regardless, those were Horyang's words. Whether he is the real master of the Tower or not, Horyang must've recognized him as one, since he was (as far as Horyang's experiment-tortured mind was able to comprehend) like a generous god to him.

Mr. Arashi
January 10, 2013, 06:14 PM
Regardless, those were Horyang's words. Whether he is the real master of the Tower or not, Horyang must've recognized him as one, since he was (as far as Horyang's experiment-tortured mind was able to comprehend) like a generous god to him.Also it couldn't be the top of the tower, because Teddy was unconscious the whole trip. Everything might be possible and valid, so i give the ignorant bliss to Teddy... i even give it to Koon and he always make me fall with his plans :p

Reclaimer
February 17, 2013, 05:03 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that the reward you receive upon reaching the 134th floor is actually the test on the floor? i.e. You are offered your heart's desire and if you accept, you fail the test without the possibility of a retry. Nobody passes because the only person capable of passing would be someone who already has what they want which as we've seen from the series is nobody, not even Baam any more.

ukimix
February 17, 2013, 08:40 PM
Now that we begin the bet arc, place your bets:

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3015/pokebattlex.png

shaheer
February 18, 2013, 04:35 AM
i think wangnan should be given better weapon. every time i see this stupid pokeball it pisses me off to say the least

Monsterguy
February 18, 2013, 04:54 AM
i think wangnan should be given better weapon. every time i see this stupid pokeball it pisses me off to say the least

isn't this funny ??? --> I find it hilarious...:lmao

PS: Now truthfully, each time Wangnan starts throwing poke-bombs, I literally start facepalming myself, as well...:paperbag

shinsengumi
February 18, 2013, 08:08 AM
what if he calls charizard tho ,that would be awesome

ukimix
February 18, 2013, 10:07 AM
isn't this funny ??? --> I find it hilarious...:lmao

:lmao
Yes, it is... wait, I have to ... :lmao...
That's why I like so much wangnan.... It's an odd character among the others around him.

shaheer
February 18, 2013, 10:21 AM
well i found it hilarious tbh. But things are changing they will go to factory round they are having FUG as their nemesis Wangnan is son of zahard Honestly i expect better.

0Xellos
February 18, 2013, 10:56 AM
Wangnan using bombs is fine by me, as long as he can fight when he runs out of them... in the Urek miniarc, there was a hint at him suddenly starting to train, so I wonder what's up with those lame-ass pokeballs.

shaheer
February 18, 2013, 11:44 AM
Throwing bomb is not a problem use some techniques for gods sake he has prob with sinsoo control then he should learn advanced combat tech or sth.
this is what pisses me off. get new bombs like say miniature rockets or sth different variations of combat.
he is in 20+ level all he does is throw pokeball like that s cool

ukimix
February 18, 2013, 12:27 PM
Well, it is not like if he's going to be a mjor fighter inside the tower. But Wangnan has probed he's brave enought to throw his project to become the king of the tower for saving a little child as it happened at the beginning of this arc. That mixture of being a weak contender and also a man with principles is something that I enjoy of him.

abc1233
February 27, 2013, 02:24 PM
Just noticed that in chapter 9 when Lero-ro pushes everyone away with his shinsoo blast, Hwa-Ryun gets pushed back too. Maybe she isn't a ranker after all? Or I guess she could have been faking

FrostyMouse
February 27, 2013, 03:20 PM
Just noticed that in chapter 9 when Lero-ro pushes everyone away with his shinsoo blast, Hwa-Ryun gets pushed back too. Maybe she isn't a ranker after all? Or I guess she could have been faking

abc, Evan clearly knows her, so she sort of has to be a Ranker, plus a Guide isn't a normal position.

There's also the possibility that she actively chose to get pushed by the barrier or that her shinsoo resistance isn't that high. Maybe most people, even Rankers, would get pushed back by it, but they can walk through it like nothing.

abc1233
February 27, 2013, 04:42 PM
abc, Evan clearly knows her, so she sort of has to be a Ranker, plus a Guide isn't a normal position.

There's also the possibility that she actively chose to get pushed by the barrier or that her shinsoo resistance isn't that high. Maybe most people, even Rankers, would get pushed back by it, but they can walk through it like nothing.

None of those are reasons why she can't be a regular. Just because a ranker knows her, she has to be a ranker? That's not much evidence, the person in charge of giving rankings isn't even a regular yet I'm sure many High Rankers would know of him. Plus we don't know how the guide position works, for all we know, regulars can be guides as well. If she is a ranker then her shinsoo resistance would have to be considered godly compared to the regulars (except for Baam ofc) considering she would have climbed to the 134th floor. So pretty much the only thing we're left with is that she's faking,

FrostyMouse
February 27, 2013, 04:54 PM
None of those are reasons why she can't be a regular. Just because a ranker knows her, she has to be a ranker? That's not much evidence, the person in charge of giving rankings isn't even a regular yet I'm sure many High Rankers would know of him. Plus we don't know how the guide position works, for all we know, regulars can be guides as well. If she is a ranker then her shinsoo resistance would have to be considered godly compared to the regulars (except for Baam ofc) considering she would have climbed to the 134th floor. So pretty much the only thing we're left with is that she's faking,

I would think Evan, a High Ranker, knowing her personally, would, in this situation, mean that she's not a regular. Sure, she could just be a really high floor regular, but would you rather believe that she's a really high floor regular or a Ranker? I think being a Ranker makes more sense.

I would think that she's faking.

abc1233
February 27, 2013, 05:06 PM
I would think Evan, a High Ranker, knowing her personally, would, in this situation, mean that she's not a regular. Sure, she could just be a really high floor regular, but would you rather believe that she's a really high floor regular or a Ranker? I think being a Ranker makes more sense.

I would think that she's faking.

She could just be the daughter of someone he knows, or she could have known him some other way prior to climbing, it's not like regulars are born the moment they start climbing. Evan knowing her isn't evidence.

FrostyMouse
February 27, 2013, 05:10 PM
She could just be the daughter of someone he knows, or she could have known him some other way prior to climbing, it's not like regulars are born the moment they start climbing. Evan knowing her isn't evidence.

I guess, but I'm going to assume that she's a Ranker until we know otherwise.

She still has the capability to seemingly move around the Tower at will, so she's either a Ranker or she's a high floor regular.

__________________

While it doesn't matter, and I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me, do you have a specific reason for not wanting Hwa Ryun to be a Ranker? Is it because that apart from YHS, Ha Jinsung, Karaka, and most likely Poken (although perhaps he is a Regular as he says "My God," but I don't know as he's a shadowy form), every member of FUG that we've met is a regular, so thus you think that Hwa Ryun should be a regular as well? The one problem I see with that is that Hwa Ryun was assigned to guide Rachel and then Baam, plus that she was present with all of FUG's plans on the Floor of Test and wasn't just being used like XiaXia, Cassano, Apple, and Michael.

Hwa Ryun seemed involved in YHS and Ha Jinsung's plans, so I think that's a big plus in her favor for being a Ranker.

Of course, there is the thing where Baam, without having made a contract (and not being a 10 Family member and therefore not already having a contract made), slashes her face unintentionally with Shinsoo. Hwa Ryun may actually have been injured there, as we haven't seen her right eye since then and there was blood on the scene, so it's unclear.

abc1233
February 27, 2013, 05:31 PM
I guess, but I'm going to assume that she's a Ranker until we know otherwise.

She still has the capability to seemingly move around the Tower at will, so she's either a Ranker or she's a high floor regular.

__________________

While it doesn't matter, and I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me, do you have a specific reason for not wanting Hwa Ryun to be a Ranker? Is it because that apart from YHS, Ha Jinsung, Karaka, and most likely Poken (although perhaps he is a Regular as he says "My God," but I don't know as he's a shadowy form), every member of FUG that we've met is a regular, so thus you think that Hwa Ryun should be a regular as well? The one problem I see with that is that Hwa Ryun was assigned to guide Rachel and then Baam, plus that she was present with all of FUG's plans on the Floor of Test and wasn't just being used like XiaXia, Cassano, Apple, and Michael.

Hwa Ryun seemed involved in YHS and Ha Jinsung's plans, so I think that's a big plus in her favor for being a Ranker.

Of course, there is the thing where Baam, without having made a contract (and not being a 10 Family member and therefore not already having a contract made), slashes her face unintentionally with Shinsoo. Hwa Ryun may actually have been injured there, as we haven't seen her right eye since then and there was blood on the scene, so it's unclear.
Well moving through the floors at will is a perk of being a guide I think.

Meh, it's just something which I noticed after reading a couple of past chapters, I don't really care either way. She also seemed to be having difficulty in taking care of Androssi during the crown game, which she shouldn't have done if she was a ranker, you could again attribute that to her faking it but then she didn't seem to care about drawing attention to herself when she took out those 5 guys moments before. Plus I'd have thought Lero-ro and Ren would have noticed that something was up if there was a ranker participating in a regular's test, though it's surprising that even after seeing someone who doesn't even seem to be from the 10 families fight on par with a Zahard Princess, alarm bells didn't ring.

FrostyMouse
February 27, 2013, 05:40 PM
Well moving through the floors at will is a perk of being a guide I think.

Meh, it's just something which I noticed after reading a couple of past chapters, I don't really care either way. She also seemed to be having difficulty in taking care of Androssi during the crown game, which she shouldn't have done if she was a ranker, you could again attribute that to her faking it but then she didn't seem to care about drawing attention to herself when she took out those 5 guys moments before. Plus I'd have thought Lero-ro and Ren would have noticed that something was up if there was a ranker participating in a regular's test, though it's surprising that even after seeing someone who doesn't even seem to be from the 10 families fight on par with a Zahard Princess, alarm bells didn't ring.

Perhaps, but it's also the perk of being a Ranker. It also seems that as long as you've passed a floor as a regular, you can move through it.

Perhaps. For some reason, we were told that Guides aren't as strong as other characters around their rank. However, she could easily just be faking it. If Hwa Ryun had just beaten up Androssi easily, massive alarm bells would've gone off.

Razh
February 27, 2013, 05:42 PM
Of course, there is the thing where Baam, without having made a contract (and not being a 10 Family member and therefore not already having a contract made), slashes her face unintentionally with Shinsoo. Hwa Ryun may actually have been injured there, as we haven't seen her right eye since then and there was blood on the scene, so it's unclear.

If I remember correctly, when she talked to Baam after that, she said she doesn't want to take revenge for her eye. It's kinda tough to look for, but I'm pretty sure. Of course, it's no proof, but coupled with eyepatch it leaves little doubt that she has lost her sight in right eye.

Anyway, I read on wikia now that Evan was surprised when he saw Hwaryun. I don't remember where that happened.

FrostyMouse
February 27, 2013, 05:53 PM
If I remember correctly, when she talked to Baam after that, she said she doesn't want to take revenge for her eye. It's kinda tough to look for, but I'm pretty sure. Of course, it's no proof, but coupled with eyepatch it leaves little doubt that she has lost her sight in right eye.

Anyway, I read on wikia now that Evan was surprised when he saw Hwaryun. I don't remember where that happened.

I do remember that, but we don't know what it really means. I'd be surprised if Hwa Ryun had actually lost sight in her eye, but there was blood and her comment later on, so who knows. It could just be a game she's playing. It does seem that certain bits of magical healing do appear to be beyond the Tower's skill, even though you'd think that they could do something about it. We're told that Dan's legs can't be healed, seemingly.

When Yuri's group invades the Floor of Test to recover Black March, Evan runs across Hwa Ryun and appears shocked/surprised to see her.

Mr. Arashi
March 01, 2013, 11:56 PM
I have read an interesting theory which i would like to share with you.

Phantanimun entered into Zahard's palace only to steal something, something so precious that was expected to happen since the Tower's breaking, the birth of Zahard' Son. He hid it in the basement of the Tower which by pure luck, one girl from the middle area discovered and teached him.

Why is the Tower still ruled by Guardians while Zahard conquered it? Headon's greeting 'sincerely' the welcomed Baam because he's part of FUG plans, also he knows Phantaminum because he entered into the first floor. It means, like Rachel, Phantanimun has a debt with him or maybe Fug itself? If there's factions in FUG, it's perfectly logical to think that different goals are pointed. What will happen if one of those goals is not destroy the rulers but the system? This last one, i think Phantanimun fits quite good, with the help of Zahard' Son ofcourse.

ukimix
March 03, 2013, 07:06 AM
I have thought headonis part of fug, yes. Also there seems to be a battle about the whole tower among the main powers. I guess we don't know much about Phantanimun. Where can I read about him?

abc1233
March 03, 2013, 07:18 AM
I have thought headonis part of fug, yes. Also there seems to be a battle about the whole tower among the main powers. I guess we don't know much about Phantanimun. Where can I read about him?

Well, this (http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Phantaminum) is pretty much all we know about him. There was a page explaining everything about Exes there but can't find it.

Host Samurai
March 03, 2013, 03:22 PM
Don't know if it's official but here is the ToG OST (https://soundcloud.com/shinjouhanabi/tower-of-god-flaming-heart).

Credits: Antalius11 @ batoto

Mr. Arashi
March 03, 2013, 05:02 PM
I forgot to say another theory the day before yesterday xP. Akraptor could be Anak's father.:teehee

Gelcertified
March 04, 2013, 06:39 PM
I really adore Tower Of God! :zomg
Although I admit that at first I only read it because I had nothing else to do and I never thought I would get addicted to it this much... :sweatdrop
Anyway my favorite character is Koon Agero Agnis! :wub I'm mean... :blush come on he's just so gorgeous and his attitude is super cool! :tss That's just for me though... I'm not saying that you should feel that way too... :x3

Anyway, I'm still so very much into it and yeah! I won't stop reading until I finish the story! :Haha

abc1233
March 05, 2013, 04:03 PM
I forgot to say another theory the day before yesterday xP. Akraptor could be Anak's father.:teehee

Could be, but I doubt it. Think it was said that Anak's dad was executed by a princess. He was also a palace cook, which means that firstly he is a great cook (which we haven't seen much evidence of as far as I know) and his shinsoo resistance would be ridiculous compared to the other regulars since he'd be living on such a high floor, again something which we haven't really seen. Aside from the whole daughter thing, there's not much else to go on. I'd say it's more likely that he lost his daughter in the middle area like so many other parents, given Horyang's story.

ukimix
March 20, 2013, 10:37 AM
SIU wrote a short story for Samsung Galazy Note II (http://local.sec.samsung.com/comLocal/event/1301_Galaxynote2/webtoon-siu1.html).


First part scans thanks to 101010 and the translations thanks to Dashan from Batoto: http://imgur.com/a/hmynr


Second part thanks to Dashan: http://www.batoto.net/forums/topic/11429-tower-of-god-samsung-ad/page-3#entry584286


And here the third part: http://local.sec.samsung.com/comLocal/event/1301_Galaxynote2/webtoon-siu3.html. Here a partial scan of this part, thanks to 101010: http://www.batoto.net/forums/topic/11429-tower-of-god-samsung-ad/page-4#entry599418, and here a full translation of the part thanks to Random-Webtoon-Fan from Batoto:


Dating master and the secret of S pen

Hachuling : Ah, nuts....

Urek : ?


Urek : What's wrong Hachuling?

Hachuling : Ah.. The problem is...


Hachuling : I forgot that yesterday was 100th day with my girlfriend.. She seems to be sulking.

Urek : ...You are in trouble.


Urek : You really should have S planner easy memo to keep on important days like me.

Hachuling : S planner easy memo?


Urek : Yes. S planner has easy memo ability, so you can easily make a memo and save it like a post it!


Haculing : Oh! I didn't know that! Leader! You truly are the dating master!

Urek : Kukuku. With S pen, you can be the best boyfriend.


So now all I need is

(Hachuling : The most thing is missing...)

girlfriend


Here a pic:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2066/togsamsunggnii.png

shaheer
March 21, 2013, 08:07 AM
LOL read the stories. Its really interesting how much TOG is popularizing itself. May be its the equivalent of Naruto or Bleach or OP in south korea and is becoming sth like a peer/pop cultural icon

ukimix
March 21, 2013, 11:46 AM
The third part is out. I'll add it in the post to put them all in the same post.

Fun to see Urek with flowers...

TheBoss
March 21, 2013, 05:25 PM
Urek fails so bad with women xDD I wonder if what would happen if hegot even a little of baam's talent to attract girls lol

abc1233
March 31, 2013, 12:59 PM
This page is interesting:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/tower_of_god/c075/21.html

We know for a fact that Baam survived so technically the team shouldn't have been allowed to pass. This suggests that either the Guardian knew that he was still alive, in which case it may have links to FUG/whatever plan Headon has. Or FUG could have somehow made the Guardian unaware of Baam's survival, but then I'm sure it would have been closely observing its own test.

Mr. Arashi
March 31, 2013, 04:31 PM
This page is interesting:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/tower_of_god/c075/21.html

We know for a fact that Baam survived so technically the team shouldn't have been allowed to pass. This suggests that either the Guardian knew that he was still alive, in which case it may have links to FUG/whatever plan Headon has. Or FUG could have somehow made the Guardian unaware of Baam's survival, but then I'm sure it would have been closely observing its own test.Or the Guardians really don't care about being cheated. Also the idea of stay controlled by an outsider like Zahard is hard to accept if a Guardian is powerful being..

FrostyMouse
March 31, 2013, 07:36 PM
The Guardian planned the whole test and it would've known what was happening with FUG's hiding of the "Red Demon/Devil" below/around the Wine Glass, so I'm of the opinion that the Guardian is in cahoots with FUG.

syx
April 01, 2013, 08:47 AM
R.achel's Quest
Learn how cute R.achel sleeps her way through the Tower

Good lord... I want to thank the person, who gave me a fit of laughter today. It's brilliant and ambiguous. We should keep it that way!

TheBoss
April 01, 2013, 03:25 PM
Good lord... I want to thank the person, who gave me a fit of laughter today. It's brilliant and ambiguous. We should keep it that way!
DAT april's fool :lmao, isnt Baam awesome?

ErosVp
April 01, 2013, 04:03 PM
Since I didn't realize it was already april 1st, I thought I was left out of some kind of conspiracy! hahaha

naruto-niichan
April 02, 2013, 06:54 AM
Good lord... I want to thank the person, who gave me a fit of laughter today. It's brilliant and ambiguous. We should keep it that way!

I'm happy that you enjoyed the new title I chose! So fitting, wasn't it? :derp

syx
April 02, 2013, 08:04 AM
I'm happy that you enjoyed the new title I chose! So fitting, wasn't it? :derp

I think it was the best, "The Adventures of Hashirama's DNA" being close second.

But why can't we keep the title? The Naruto section keeps their new title too (probably not permantly, I know). Don't you have such power like 3c? If so, I think the forum needs a change and you should take 3c's red seat.:plot 3c doesn't deserve the seat anymore...


DAT april's fool :lmao, isnt Baam awesome?
You mean Rachel, right? She really is different from any other villain/antagonist.

ErosVp
April 02, 2013, 11:57 AM
I'm happy that you enjoyed the new title I chose! So fitting, wasn't it? :derp
Good one. Too bad nobody renamed Noblesse as twilight saga... lol

shaheer
April 02, 2013, 01:11 PM
Good one. Too bad nobody renamed Noblesse as twilight saga... lol

LOL ya i wonder why they didnt. it would have been awesome

0Xellos
April 04, 2013, 06:11 AM
I think it was the best, "The Adventures of Hashirama's DNA" being close second.


I place "Victoria's secret" second instead :derp

thornofcarrion
April 07, 2013, 02:07 PM
We will soon be launching Bleach Tournament - Second Edition. We are looking forward for your participation. Here is the LINK (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/79293-Bleach-Tournament-II-Announcement-Fan-Art-Submission) to check out whats happening in Bleachverse

ukimix
April 09, 2013, 12:14 PM
Hi there. I want to invite you to the reading of Nausikaä of the Valley of the Wind. Here the thread: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/2990541-Collective-reading-of-NAUSICA%C3%84-by-Hayao-MIYAZAKI

TheBoss
April 09, 2013, 03:36 PM
I just woke up with the felling that everyone should die and only Koon, Baam and Rak keep climbing the tower again.
Crazy isnt it? xD

Nast.J
April 09, 2013, 06:14 PM
I just woke up with the felling that everyone should die and only Koon, Baam and Rak keep climbing the tower again.
Crazy isnt it? xD

I doubt it and i hope it's not going to happen. Also i was asking myself not long ago, why was the tower created? I wonder if i will be satisfied when we'll get our answer.

ukimix
April 18, 2013, 01:10 PM
This artist (http://ar-ua.deviantart.com/art/ToG-Yuri-Zahard-338587237) makes great drawings about ToG. Here some samples:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/191/0/8/jyu_viole_grace_by_ar_ua-d56qeoy.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/325/b/0/tog__yuri_zahard__anime_version__by_ar_ua-d5lq2iu.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/324/9/9/tog__yuri_zahard_by_ar_ua-d5ll3l1.jpg

syx
April 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Deviantart in general lacks (good) ToG arts, AR-UA has no competition there. Not saying AR-UA is bad, he is actually pretty good imo. Just look at his Naruto, One Piece and The Breaker gallery.

I would like good Agero, Hatsu and Lero-Ro arts, which I can use as an avatar.

abc1233
April 18, 2013, 03:30 PM
This artist (http://ar-ua.deviantart.com/art/ToG-Yuri-Zahard-338587237) makes great drawings about ToG. Here some samples:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/191/0/8/jyu_viole_grace_by_ar_ua-d56qeoy.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/325/b/0/tog__yuri_zahard__anime_version__by_ar_ua-d5lq2iu.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/324/9/9/tog__yuri_zahard_by_ar_ua-d5ll3l1.jpg

Damn, one of his works was so good I just had to make a sig out of it :D

Mr. Arashi
April 18, 2013, 04:03 PM
Yeah! I want too cool draws of Koon and Urek.

Starting a thread, i wonder if all the guardians beside Headon are agreed with Zahard' system. Also it's kind of farfetched Baam being an Irregular and not going for only Guardian's test.

FrostyMouse
April 18, 2013, 07:09 PM
I want a nice drawing/pic of Androssi.

TheMoa
April 18, 2013, 08:17 PM
Yeah! I want too cool draws of Koon and Urek.

Starting a thread, i wonder if all the guardians beside Headon are agreed with Zahard' system. Also it's kind of farfetched Baam being an Irregular and not going for only Guardian's test.

It was discussed here before... what some other guys and me think is that Zahard forces would know that a FUG irregular was walking around and they would put him down.
Other guys said that it's just a plot hole and Zahard wouldn't know about it.

apellon
April 18, 2013, 08:56 PM
3 random thoughts...
-In couple of occasions, rankers and other people said to baam : whatever you need to know or whatever you want.. u ll have it at the top of the tower ?

But what do u guys think about that ? Is it a myth? And what top of the tower are they refering to ? No one not even phantominum ( however u want to spell it like) has reached the top as far as we know.... But people affirming it seem to know what they r talking about...

-The other thing im wondering about is :
are people in the tower : "human" ? They dont seem to age a lot ... Is that because of shinsoo? Or is that just the talser user univers? ( since someone living alone in a hole like baam for all this years doesnt seem Possible ....)

-last thing is about clearing lvls ... How do people that cleared a lvl travel between them ? I mean for rankers u r tested , then u go up... But whatsup with people that already cleared those places ? In some instance it seems that its pretty quick to go through like koon going to a lower lvl for the right hand of thedevil...but sometime like yuri she uses "shortcuts" through the middle area, that seem to take forever ? Why wouldnt they just go through normal way? Maybe i m just confusing myself on my own , the sens of time is akward in tog :) wich i dont find displeasing but i do find it intriguing ..

TheMoa
April 18, 2013, 09:59 PM
1- by the top of the tower they refer as the actual top of Zahard's Empire, 134th floor.
It was not explained yet, maybe everybody can make one wish to Zahard... but I do believe it as a myth, I think they instigate the regulars to get there because they can find more valuable people in the climbing. As one get on the top, he proves his strength and gain fame/opportunities to work for the empire/another families, then they would get the means to have their wishes fulfilled. Off course, that's my opinion on the matter.

2 - Yes, they are kind of human. The age thing is because of the Shinsoo, I can't remember the source, I think it was in SIU's notes.

3 - They travel between floors through the middle area, using the stairs. Yuri was trying to get on the second floor without being noted by the ruler noting. Koon traveled using a vehicle. But we know tha Lero-ro spent 5 years to get on 77F, so I don't know why he took so much time... maybe he was walking by foot without the guide and got lost on the stairs

apellon
April 18, 2013, 10:50 PM
1- by the top of the tower they refer as the actual top of Zahard's Empire, 134th floor.


3 - But we know tha Lero-ro spent 5 years to get on 77F, so I don't know why he took so much time... maybe he was walking by foot without the guide and got lost on the stairs

- why would lero ro lie to baam though .. He seems to be a legit enough person to me ... But yea mostlikly its a myth , unless zahard or the guardian from that floor have this power ... Afterall their are some weird ridiculous powers in tog , like the 100th floor seems to hold the power to make one immortal or emile power :p

And about lero ro , yes it does sounds strange to me ... Would u then need to pass through middle area to climb up has a ranker ? Or can u pass through some
Already open gates in the inner tower...
Anyhow , if lero ro , takes 5 years to go back to their new mission 40th floors down , to spy on "baam", i guess we gonna have a problem with this current arch since i m pretty sure lero ro and te wingtree will be key to solve the baam-fug-blackmail-old Team dilema ...

Ps: writing from iphone = :/

abc1233
April 19, 2013, 04:49 AM
- why would lero ro lie to baam though .. He seems to be a legit enough person to me ... But yea mostlikly its a myth , unless zahard or the guardian from that floor have this power ... Afterall their are some weird ridiculous powers in tog , like the 100th floor seems to hold the power to make one immortal or emile power :p

And about lero ro , yes it does sounds strange to me ... Would u then need to pass through middle area to climb up has a ranker ? Or can u pass through some
Already open gates in the inner tower...
Anyhow , if lero ro , takes 5 years to go back to their new mission 40th floors down , to spy on "baam", i guess we gonna have a problem with this current arch since i m pretty sure lero ro and te wingtree will be key to solve the baam-fug-blackmail-old Team dilema ...

Ps: writing from iphone = :/
Who knows, maybe it is legit but people just become disappointed with the outcome. They would have spent centuries climbing the tower, killing and betraying other people and when they get to the top to make their wish, they realise it wasn't worth it, some people probably even forget why they were climbing in the first place.

I doubt he'll take 5 years, this time he knows the route and he has to travel 28 fewer floors than last time. He may still be able to get it done in 2 years.

TheMoa
April 19, 2013, 09:21 AM
Who knows, maybe it is legit but people just become disappointed with the outcome. They would have spent centuries climbing the tower, killing and betraying other people and when they get to the top to make their wish, they realise it wasn't worth it, some people probably even forget why they were climbing in the first place.

I doubt he'll take 5 years, this time he knows the route and he has to travel 28 fewer floors than last time. He may still be able to get it done in 2 years.

and on top of that he's doing something for wingtree... they probably have means to travel faster or a guide to help on the way

ukimix
April 19, 2013, 10:47 AM
I share my personal view on the question about the human nature of people in ToG world. The whole story can be told without clearing it. Even more, despite of the fact the word 'human' appears in the story many times, it doesn't have the same meaning than within us (humans can't do the same things people do in ToG world to talk about the shinsoo argument). So, I choose to believe nothing concrete about that question:


“- Did you read the final chapter of ToG?
- Yes it was a fantastic story and comic. I liked a lot.
- Me too,.. but, are the people in that world humans?
- I don’t not.. Does it matter? “


I share some other favourite fanarts:

http://t.imgbox.com/acimMkrE.jpg (http://imgbox.com/acimMkrE) http://t.imgbox.com/abu0DoL0.jpg (http://imgbox.com/abu0DoL0) http://t.imgbox.com/abpyLfb2.jpg (http://imgbox.com/abpyLfb2) http://t.imgbox.com/acuCFZLp.jpg (http://imgbox.com/acuCFZLp) http://t.imgbox.com/acn6CdTb.jpg (http://imgbox.com/acn6CdTb) http://t.imgbox.com/adeL1XaD.jpg (http://imgbox.com/adeL1XaD)

Respective artists:

BB(djejstorldi0) http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/75476 He drew the scene with Baam and Rachel looking at the stars (Love it!)
Magpie (http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Fclubid=20948647%26menuid=4%26boardtype=P%26page=16%26specialmenutype=%26articleid=127995%26referrerAllArticles=false) drew sat young androssi. Pretty nice, isn't she?
I have lost the references of some of the pics, so if someone can provide them I would appreciate it.



And some others:

http://cafefiles.naver.net/20120808_34/emddj__1344399525437LPnJG_JPEG/%C0%AF%B8%AE.jpgReference (http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Fclubid=20948647%26menuid=4%26boardtype=P%26page=25%26specialmenutype=%26articleid=86818%26referrerAllArticles=false).

This artist (http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/75476)has also great lines. Pretty expressive and clear:
http://cafefiles.naver.net/20130219_102/gaemi1993_1361208595846EkdEq_JPEG/1302192.jpg
http://cafefiles.naver.net/20130219_250/gaemi1993_1361208305168evoce_JPEG/1302184.jpghttp://cafefiles.naver.net/20130219_282/gaemi1993_1361208475771wvcDr_JPEG/1302183.jpg

apellon
April 19, 2013, 03:51 PM
The whole story can be told without clearing it.

-that is also true for just about anything :) ...

-but i think tog is great for actually asking those questions and giving those hints, those mysterious leads ... the fact that it's a maze like story with many legends / hints and guesses , make you think and try to understand better ... wich make the whole serie even more interesting :) it s a little like Lost 1st season or inception :) ... and ofcrouse it gives depth to the world.

In fact if : Hunter X hunter , Naruto , Lost and Hack Sign were able to have a son : it would be ToG ...


- thanks for the nice fan art ( some of those link are broken though ... )

Nast.J
April 19, 2013, 05:04 PM
In my opinion, Tower of god is in a league beyond Naruto. HxH comes close but ToG's universe is so huge that even HxH can't compare but they do have many things in common. I feel like it's the only thing i'm reading that won't deceive me no matter what happens.

I also wonder what SIU will do once ToG finishes..

Pretty nice fanarts you posted there ukimix, i really liked Yeon's and Androssi's ones. There's still 2 more days till the new chapter comes out :scry

apellon
April 20, 2013, 12:45 AM
its my finals week :m3j ... lets just give any kind of treatment to all those patients and trust in shinsoo :nerd

yea i just said naruto cause : families = leaf villages , blood skeletton of baam = Susano etc..

shaheer
April 23, 2013, 07:02 AM
the artworks were pretty amazing especially the one with yeon. And yes TOG seems to be in a completely different league in comparison to other mangas.. save breaker and Feng sheng ji

ErosVp
April 23, 2013, 08:28 AM
So I must read this Feng Shen Ji.....

ukimix
April 23, 2013, 11:14 AM
So I must read this Feng Shen Ji.....

Yeessssssss!!!! Pretty nice!

shaheer
April 23, 2013, 12:25 PM
So I must read this Feng Shen Ji.....

LONG time man, since TOG expanded i barely get to see you back then when it was limited to 1 thread mostly it was you me and host ...
as for Feng yes its going really good 39 chaps released so far and its already one of my fav shonen. The impact its leaving is great

ErosVp
April 23, 2013, 01:11 PM
LONG time man, since TOG expanded i barely get to see you back then when it was limited to 1 thread mostly it was you me and host ...
as for Feng yes its going really good 39 chaps released so far and its already one of my fav shonen. The impact its leaving is great

The sad truth is I finished mechanical engineering college and had to get a job..... So I don't have much time as I had...

I'll finish Nausicaa (just 3 volumes to go) and pick Ability and this Feng Shen Ji...

ukimix
April 23, 2013, 02:17 PM
The sad truth is I finished mechanical engineering college and had to get a job..... So I don't have much time as I had...

I'll finish Nausicaa (just 3 volumes to go) and pick Ability and this Feng Shen Ji...

Wow you're so jung!!! I have a job, 2 beloved children to care about and some comics to read...

apellon
April 23, 2013, 08:57 PM
I just had a revelation...

The tower of god is a tower in " the dark continent of HxH!"
And phanthonium is actually the "phantom" troup leader chrollo , wich was misunderstood by the tower people ... it was disorted to phantominum ! Chrollo just kept walking east and ended up in the Tower !
The unknown power that people say he used : was actually his "Nen !"

Nast.J
April 24, 2013, 02:19 PM
dunno if someone posted this already but i found it funny so i'm sharing it.
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/045/9/2/tower_of_baamzel_by_natersal-d5uwycu.jpg

shaheer
April 25, 2013, 03:59 AM
dunno if someone posted this already but i found it funny so i'm sharing it.
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/045/9/2/tower_of_baamzel_by_natersal-d5uwycu.jpg

HAHAHAHAH
thats the most hilarious picture i ve seen so far

khaja_200923
April 28, 2013, 01:11 AM
so i finally noticed this when i was reading through TOG again that is http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/053.0/compressed/p53.05.jpg?v=11309851674
koon braging about making his cousin a zahard princess but here http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/032.0/compressed/t32.01.jpg?v=11297603391 he clearly says that a princess is chosen every hundred years. so does it mean koon is more than hundred years old since there was androssi chosen as a princess when he entered the tower but we already know that he is 17 years old. one explanation would be that she is just another princess candidate like that sheep speaks of his bia family princess http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/068.0/compressed/ur068.26.jpg?v=11319302406.but koon clearly says that he made her into the princess and she is also mentioned as a chosen princess in the wikia http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Maria. so how is this possible?

abc1233
May 01, 2013, 01:46 PM
so i finally noticed this when i was reading through TOG again that is http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/053.0/compressed/p53.05.jpg?v=11309851674
koon braging about making his cousin a zahard princess but here http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/032.0/compressed/t32.01.jpg?v=11297603391 he clearly says that a princess is chosen every hundred years. so does it mean koon is more than hundred years old since there was androssi chosen as a princess when he entered the tower but we already know that he is 17 years old. one explanation would be that she is just another princess candidate like that sheep speaks of his bia family princess http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/068.0/compressed/ur068.26.jpg?v=11319302406.but koon clearly says that he made her into the princess and she is also mentioned as a chosen princess in the wikia http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Maria. so how is this possible?
For one thing, how do you know that Androssi was chosen within the last 100 years? Also, the whole 100 year thing could just be a pattern rather than any set rule.

khaja_200923
May 01, 2013, 02:19 PM
For one thing, how do you know that Androssi was chosen within the last 100 years? Also, the whole 100 year thing could just be a pattern rather than any set rule.

are you saying androssi is more than 100 years old and got selected as regular to climb tower after 100 years of becoming princess? and yes i think it's rule rather than pattern other wise all the 10 great families and their branch families will start sending their daughters to become zahaard princess candidate and there will be too many disputes whenever a princess is selected but if there is a set rule all of them have to compete for that one spot and losers has to bear with it. doesn't it make more sense when that sheep wanted androssi to fall from her position so that his bia families candidate can take that position.

abc1233
May 01, 2013, 08:05 PM
are you saying androssi is more than 100 years old and got selected as regular to climb tower after 100 years of becoming princess? and yes i think it's rule rather than pattern other wise all the 10 great families and their branch families will start sending their daughters to become zahaard princess candidate and there will be too many disputes whenever a princess is selected but if there is a set rule all of them have to compete for that one spot and losers has to bear with it. doesn't it make more sense when that sheep wanted androssi to fall from her position so that his bia families candidate can take that position.

It's possible, Androssi is pretty damn old anyway, think she's somewhere around 300.

bob sagit
May 02, 2013, 11:54 AM
koon braging about making his cousin a zahard princess but here http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/8207/032.0/compressed/t32.01.jpg?v=11297603391 he clearly says that a princess is chosen every hundred years.

please reread that, it does not say "every one hundred years" it says "every several hundred years" meaning that it is simply a rare event, not an centennial one. ^^

---------- Post added at 10:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 AM ----------


It's possible, Androssi is pretty damn old anyway, think she's somewhere around 300.

anak says that Androssi is over 300 years old I think, but i can't remember the chapter

gnut
May 07, 2013, 02:14 PM
any of you guys interested in playing a ToG themed Mafia game?

if so...follow the link under my sig....

:hee

ukimix
May 09, 2013, 11:57 PM
SIU posted this one on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJz2GJrCQAARR3N.jpg

TheMoa
May 10, 2013, 10:35 PM
a foreshadow of a re-encounter?:zomg

THM Nindo
May 20, 2013, 10:27 AM
a foreshadow of a re-encounter?:zomg

Actually, I think it's supposed to be the trio when they were kid or something.

abc1233
May 20, 2013, 10:36 AM
SIU posted this one on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJz2GJrCQAARR3N.jpg
Rak found out how YHS chibified him and did it to Baam and Koon XD

naruto-niichan
May 21, 2013, 10:42 AM
Short Tower of God animation :amuse


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxuwQFn2xSc