Kimimaro vs Zabuza

[3c]

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As a member of the Kaguya clan, Kimimaro possessed their rare bloodline, Shikotsumyaku. With it, he was able to manipulate the bones in his body to form weapons and create defenses through his many dances. His bloodline also appeared to give him some limited healing, as his bones and skin quickly regenerated from the damage done to them. In addition, Kimimaro holds the Earth Seal, giving him an increase in chakra and physical power. Kimimaro is skilled enough with his Cursed Seal that he can preform partial transformations. With his abilities, Kimimaro is well suited for close combat fighting. He has demonstrated impressive speed and dexterity to go alongside his taijutsu. [
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Known as the "Demon of the Hidden Mist," this rogue shinobi, hardened by the brutal ways of Kirigakure, is renowned assassin and master of the Silent Killing technique. A former member of acclaimed Seven Swordsmen of the Mist, he wields Kubikiribōchō, which uses the iron of the blood of its victims to reform itself. In terms of jutsu, he specializes in Suiton, especially likes to cover the field in mist to catch his opponents off-guard.
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Cast your vote and discuss (logically) why you voted for who you voted for. Have fun, but keep it clean!

[ninjabot]

Kimimaro takes the win. If he's caught in the mist, simply incasing himself in tons of spikes will protect him from an incoming strike from the decapitator sword (I'm of the opinion that his bones are stronger than Zabuza's sword). And if Zabuza sneaks behind Kimi and gets him in the water prison, Kimi simple needs to pop the bubble by growing more bones.

Zabuza probably has stronger ranged options though with his B rank Suiton. I'm sure that bones and CS2 gives Kimimaro enough muscle power to tank it though (or atleast survive it). If he could run through a sea of sand, he can run through considerably less water I say.

[Rikudou King]

Kimimaro wins. We have already seen that Kimimaro has the means to tank physical attacks and make them nothing. He would be able to take a hit of the blade or suiton and use that moment to launch his own attack. If Zabuza tries to keep his distance, Kimimaro can attack from long range with his finger bullets or create a forest and ambush Zabuza from there.

[MonsterEnvy]

its not even a fight Kimmi wins

they should just give the win for the lower tier to Kimmi right now

[Gats]

Let's say the mist is here. What if Zabuza appears suddendly and silently and manages to stab Kimmimaro's eyes with a kunai ? :p

[jorped]

Let's say the mist is here. What if Zabuza appears suddendly and silently and manages to stab Kimmimaro's eyes with a kunai ? :p

He wouldn't be able of stabbing cuz Kimimaro would grow bones, all over his body and it be difficult for some attack like the ones that Zabuza to provoke much damage on him :p

[mattiaildivino]

As everyone has said,Kimimaro wins,maybe a bit hardly,against zabuza. in his last moments he was able to defeat naruto powered by 9tails's chakra lee with a gate and Gaara. this when he was as a living zombie closed to death.

[vanyar]

Zabuza stands a good chance, Kimimaro can't kill what he can't see, he also can't defend himself against what he can't see. Kimimaro isn't against genin now, Zabuza could take this.

[benelori]

Zabuza stands a good chance, Kimimaro can't kill what he can't see, he also can't defend himself against what he can't see. Kimimaro isn't against genin now, Zabuza could take this.

Actually he can...he can just defend his entire body with his bone, when he sees the mist and Zabuza's advantage...and when he does that, Zabuza won't be able to harm him in any way

[biggchiefmo]

Kimimaro wins!!! His manipulation of bones is too great offensively and defensively, he's shown that he can even change the entire landscape of any given area if he wishes to do so. For Zabuza's silent killing techs to work he has to get in Kimimaro's range of attack which is just a death wish. Kimimaro's taijutsu is some of the best we've seen, plus he has an unlimited amount of weapons at his disposal in his bones. If Kimimaro should use his curse seal i've no doubt he would totally overwhelm Zabuza. Zabuza's water prison wont work on Kimimaro because once again he has to be too close to execute it.

[Rarhyx]

zabuza -> mist jutsu
kimi -> http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-217/page008.html
bamms the hidden mist devil got stabbed by bones from the ground even befor he can get near kimi

[EMS]

this is easy to say,kimimaru win because his Kekkei Genkai(Shikotsu Myaku ) because Kimimaro would utilize dances which took advantage of this ability and Kimimaro would also use his Earth Seal to expand these dance forms, granting him the ability to use his bloodline to its ultimate limit.

[chilibun]

Kimimaro wins rather handily. I don't think Zabuza can even cut through the layer of bone Kimi has under his skin. Kimi is nearly impervious to all of Zabuza's attacks. Its only going to a matter of time before Kimi finds Zabuza in the mist and kills him.

[LnDRash]

^He doesn't even need to find him... if he feels like it he can just use Sawarabi No Mai to impale everything in the mist.

[Sevenheadedmirror]

Zabuza is one of my most favorite characters, out of all the mighty techniques that have been shown through out the years to attempt block the sharingan this guy has been undoubtedly the best. He has brain brawn, skill, power and is one of the most deadly characters in the manga, as in facing him is truly a fight where lives are instantly at stake. As weaknesses anger tends to bury his decision making.

Kimimaro on the other hand is simple minded, he's an idiot at battle being able of no analysis nor any other skill... but he has that skill set up to eleven. He might be an imbecile plaid by his master whom he reveres as god but he simply has too much strength. This guy has clearly good defence and nice attack. The earth seal makes him that more powerful. On the other side he has a terminal disease, he isn't as awesome as he used to be either, the entrance of the samurai makes him fodder, I truly mean this, Samurais have piercing strikes while being able to shoot sharp shakra from their blades. This makes Kimmi balanced against fodder units, while he has defense they have far attacks. Sadly this is enough to beat Zabusa, in this fight dumb muscle wins.

[LnDRash]

You are aware according to the Databook Kimimaro is actually smarter then Zabuza? And why do you think he sucks at analyzing? Naruto spamed him with Kage Bunshins, Lee simply assaulted him with Taijutsu... there wasn't much to analyze.

Once he started fighting against Gaara he started to try him out with ranged attacks and analyzed his abilities quite well... until Gaara started to throw whole Tsunamis of Sand at him.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-220-9/naruto/chapter-215.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-220-12/naruto/chapter-215.html

I realy don't see how Zabuza with all his "Analyzing" would fare any better against that.

[NAM61]

i go with kimimaro because of his bloolimit he should be able to take any attack from zabuza plus he has the curse seal

[Sevenheadedmirror]

You are aware according to the Databook Kimimaro is actually smarter then Zabuza? And why do you think he sucks at analyzing? Naruto spamed him with Kage Bunshins, Lee simply assaulted him with Taijutsu... there wasn't much to analyze.

Once he started fighting against Gaara he started to try him out with ranged attacks and analyzed his abilities quite well... until Gaara started to throw whole Tsunamis of Sand at him.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-220-9/naruto/chapter-215.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-220-12/naruto/chapter-215.html

I realy don't see how Zabuza with all his "Analyzing" would fare any better against that. According to the data book in death note L was more stupid than Near AND Light. When the first of the said smarter confessed to be much more stupid than L and Light had the advantage of understanding the rules of the magic item he used. Data books say shit.

Being manipulated by a man who thinks nothing of you and not realizing its a sign of stupidity and each of the 'analysis' Kimimaro did were flawed. You just probed he is able to think in a stupid manner. I prefer someone who bring results, there hasn't been a technique that can block the sharingan as effective as Zabuza's.

[LnDRash]

Being naive isn't the same as being stupid...


I prefer someone who bring results

Riiiiiiiiiight... then I'am curious about what results Zabuza would have been able to accomplish if he where in Kimimaro's situation. If there are tsunamis of sand going to crush you there realy isn't much left to analyze... you can only try to run.

[Sevenheadedmirror]

Being naive isn't the same as being stupid...



Riiiiiiiiiight... then I'am curious about what results Zabuza would have been able to accomplish if he where in Kimimaro's situation. If there are tsunamis of sand going to crush you there realy isn't much left to analyze... you can only try to run. You do not engage in hypotheticals to probe a point. You don't. It's but a poor attempt to avoid a point. "What would Kimimaro do if he were against a sharingan user instead?" is as much as a valid response to your question as actually engaging in the situation; there's nothing that can be said besides a subjective, ungrounded opinion.

The fact is Zabusa was effective and nullified the most threatening aspect of his opponent, forcing him to use another trick to be defeated (the dog summoning). The other analysed wrongly, underestimated his opponent and, in a personal aspect, was manipulated to the very end of his existence. That's like saying Roderigo was a smart character in Othello. No, Kimimaro was an idiot and that was his most visible phase as a character.

[LnDRash]

Kimimaro against a Sharingan user like Kakashi at the begining of part one? He would put up at least just as much of a fight as Zabuza did.

Oh and btw. you seem to forget how "effective" Zabuza was at analyzing the Sharingan:

http://www.mangareader.net/93-20-12/naruto/chapter-15.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-20-16/naruto/chapter-15.html

Seriously... saying Zabuza is some kind of genius of opponent analyzing because he used that Mist against Kakashi's Sharingan is complete bullshit. The silent killing stuff is what he was famous for in the first place... its his character defining fighting style and he would have used it against any strong opponent, not just Kakashi.

Face it... him being proficient in silent killing was just as convenient for Zabuza as was Kimimaro's indestructible skeleton against Gaara.

And again... being naive isn't the same as being stupid... this kid grew up all alone in a cage without any social contacts. His whole clan treated him like some kind of "thing" until finally he met Orochimaru. For the first time in his life which resembled a long nightmare he was treated kindly by one of the most charismatic and manipulative characters in the whole maga. So yeah... great job blaming him for that.

You are just bashing and insulting Kimimaro because he's going to throw your favorite character out of the tournament without any contest. But thats not Kimimaro's fault... instead you should blame the people who thought he belongs in the lower tier.

[Sevenheadedmirror]

First take your tone down a notch, you are simply bashing at me, which removes all kind of interest on my part to discus this with you... why? cause you remove the fun out of it.

Second acusing me of bashing the character for Zabusa is an ad hominem. I voted for Kimimaro, I said he would win; also this tournament is just for fun it has no respect from me nor is of any use for future arguments nor is it of any importance so I don't care for it at all.


Seriously... saying Zabuza is some kind of genius of opponent analyzing because he used that Mist against Kakashi's Sharingan is complete bullshit. The silent killing stuff is what he was famous for in the first place... its his character defining fighting style and he would have used it against any strong opponent, not just Kakashi.
Do not over state my arguments I didn't said Zabuza was a genius just said he is smart, which would be genius level intellect when compared to Kimimaro.




Face it... him being proficient in silent killing was just as convenient for Zabuza as was Kimimaro's indestructible skeleton against Gaara.
Yes, Kimimaro and Zabuza were put against interesting opponents that made their skills interesting, that's how shounen work, the difference is that Zabuza pulled something ingenious out of it while Kimi just spammed his skill.


And again... being naive isn't the same as being stupid... this kid grew up all alone in a cage without any social contacts. His whole clan treated him like some kind of "thing" until finally he met Orochimaru. For the first time in his life which resembled a long nightmare he was treated kindly by one of the most charismatic and manipulative characters in the whole maga. So yeah... great job blaming him for that.
Being Naive?!, You are saying Kimi is naive?... mistaking a man for a god is delusional, it surpasses naive and goes beyond it, way ,way , way beyond it and yes I can blame him for anything his freaking character does, he isn't an actor, regardless if it's stereotypical or not because the character itself is made out of a stereotype (one of a character being enormously stupid... stupid enough to mistake a man for a god).

[LnDRash]

So calling characters idiots isn't bashing and its your definition of fun? And then you even complain because I use similiar words like "bullshit"? Makes sense...

lol Kimi just spamed his skill... yeah right... and what did Zabuza do? Two times he fought Kakashi and two times he used his mist...

Kimimaro used his fighting style which is build around his kekkei genkai, he used many different attacks and dances, all of which he developed himself. Its exactly the same like Zabuza's whole fighting style is revolving around his mist... there is simply no difference.


Being Naive?!, You are saying Kimi is naive... mistaking a man for a god is delusional, it surpasses naive and goes beyond it, way ,way , way beyond it and yes I can blame him for anything his freaking character does, regarthless if it's stereotypical because the character itself is made out of a stereotype (one of a character being enormously stupid... stupid enough to mistake a man for a god).

First of all please show me the panels where Kimimaro called Orochimaru "Kami-Sama"... I must have completely missed those. He even questioned some things Oro said, like for example that there is no meaning in life. Thats nothing he would do if Orochimaru was god for him, because in that case his word would be absolute.

And secondly: Kimimaro was 15 years of age when he died. Orochimaru found him approximately when he was at the same age as Naruto in part 1, which means this guy spent a whooping two or three years of his chieldhood with Oro. Before that he was held in a cage like an animal, without any contact to other people... and suddenly Orochimaru comes into his live and for the very first time a person treats him well.

It is not "stupid" but only natural that such a person would become very precious to someone who suffered the same fate as Kimimaro... ffs the poor kid never knew anything else... he had no experience at all with other humans. Its simply beyond me how you can even expect that kid to see through a skilled manipulator like Orochimaru.

Nothing he did makes him stupid. imho it would be more appropriate to call a grown up man stupid who tries a Coup d'État in his village all by himself and then is forced to live as a missing-nin because he failed... but even that is more then questionable considering the whole situation the village was in and the circumstances under which Zabuza had to grow up.

[kakashidad]

Wow these debates can get alittle heated huh?Anyways,An interesting match up here mods...well done.
Nearly as perplexing as the darui vs yamato match.Now onto this one...i'm going with kimmimaru here.For
the sole reason that if push comes to shove he can chance the entire landscape of the area..hence creating
more of advantage that most...this cannot be banned in my view MODS?

I read that zabusa silent killing technique, maybe a trump card here,coupled with his mist technique? obviously.You guys imo should not approach this as, these ninja are not top notch.And so are sleeping
on the battlefield.It would not matter if they did not know the extent of each other range of abilities
in this case, imo.If you enter a place where's there's no water.And it suddenly turns ''misty'' Common sense would make you put up your guard.Furthermore it's a ''tournment''your there to fight and most likely to the death.lol.

I think Zabuza will lose this one...he has no sidekick to evaluate his opponet this time.And i doubt he's
as durable as kimmimaru.If i read a better argument that those put forth to this point.Then i may change my opinion...that's a pretty big ''if'' though lmao.Peace.:p

[benelori]

Well even his silent killing won't do him much good here...I mean, he can't really hurt Kimimaro, so silent killing or not, it still requires damage to be done...and because of this I think darui vs yamato was a better matchup...that was some close deal man

[biggchiefmo]

Firstly Kimimaro WINS w/o question, secondly why make arguments for how much better Zabuza is than Kimimaro then turn around and vote against him. And thirdly Zabuza was no smarter than Kimimaro, being manipulated isnt a sign of stupidity, if it is than we've got a lot of characters to call stupid, let's start with every member of Akatsuki except Itachi, Sasuke, every member of Root, everyone in the mist village during Madara's reign from behind the scenes, hell all orochimaru's underlings, Haku, Anko, all of Taka, Zabuza himself was manipulated by Kakashi's sharingan, the 1st and 2nd hokages, and the list goes on.

[Lelo]

Kimimaru wins but I dont think as easy as everyone thinks. Zabuza wont go down easily like on the Naruto bridge. And who knows, with his sword he may inflict some damage on Kimi. But still Kimi takes this

[juUnior]

Kimi takes this, and sadly - probably with less effort than when he was fighting Naruto, then Lee, then Gaara xd And lately we saw that his bones are enough to handle Samurais chakra-infused swords, so I don't think Kubikiri would do much more.

[mattiaildivino]

it's not just Kimimaro owned kyubi-naruto,1 gate-lee,and gaara;he used to defeat jugo when he got crazy,without hurt him,as if he were a baby to be stopped. with zabuza Kimimaro wipe the floor(as raizen always says XD)

[xXan]

According to the data book in death note L was more stupid than Near AND Light. When the first of the said smarter confessed to be much more stupid than L and Light had the advantage of understanding the rules of the magic item he used. Data books say shit.

Being manipulated by a man who thinks nothing of you and not realizing its a sign of stupidity and each of the 'analysis' Kimimaro did were flawed. You just probed he is able to think in a stupid manner. I prefer someone who bring results, there hasn't been a technique that can block the sharingan as effective as Zabuza's.

LOL so going by that logic Sasuke and Nagato are complete idiots as they where/are played by Madara like puppets.


Kimimaro against a Sharingan user like Kakashi at the begining of part one? He would put up at least just as much of a fight as Zabuza did.

Oh and btw. you seem to forget how "effective" Zabuza was at analyzing the Sharingan:

http://www.mangareader.net/93-20-12/naruto/chapter-15.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-20-16/naruto/chapter-15.html

Seriously... saying Zabuza is some kind of genius of opponent analyzing because he used that Mist against Kakashi's Sharingan is complete bullshit. The silent killing stuff is what he was famous for in the first place... its his character defining fighting style and he would have used it against any strong opponent, not just Kakashi.

Face it... him being proficient in silent killing was just as convenient for Zabuza as was Kimimaro's indestructible skeleton against Gaara.

And again... being naive isn't the same as being stupid... this kid grew up all alone in a cage without any social contacts. His whole clan treated him like some kind of "thing" until finally he met Orochimaru. For the first time in his life which resembled a long nightmare he was treated kindly by one of the most charismatic and manipulative characters in the whole maga. So yeah... great job blaming him for that.

You are just bashing and insulting Kimimaro because he's going to throw your favorite character out of the tournament without any contest. But thats not Kimimaro's fault... instead you should blame the people who thought he belongs in the lower tier.

He was not the one to get the idea to use the mist ... That was Haku..
http://www.mangareader.net/93-31-8/naruto/chapter-26.html

Yes he used Haku to find a way to get around the sharigan or at the very least he had to work with Haku to find out how. :P I am sure he is a genius for this :P

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Kimimaro should defenetly win this. I don't know how Zabuza can even hurt him... Killing him is out of the question.

[mattiaildivino]

kubikiri bochou can use kimimaro's blood but it would be meaningless. it's interesting the point someone said,what if zabuza's mist makes zabuza unable to see and the silent zabuza slice his eyes? kimimaro wouldn't be able to see,but he would kill whoever is around him with his best dance.

[eefrit]

How come nobody is mentioning Zabuza's waterfall jutsu? That should make things more interesting right? As for the fight itself, it is a fight that is not easy for any of these fighters. Once Zabuza activates his mist, Kimimaro will activate his bone shield and most likely his cursed seal. Zabuza will know where Kimimaro is however he will not be able to attack. On the flip side, Kimimaro will not know where Zabuza is, however he can use his Bone Forest technique to attack the whole area possibly hitting Zabuza. It is a complete stalemate in my opinion. And if we do go by stats, these two are dead even.

Now if Zabuza can continuously attack Kimimaro with water jutsu from a range and attempt to drown him, possibly giving him a win. However, if Kimimaro gets within a decent range of Zabuza, things will definitely be in Kimimaro's favor, even more so because we have no clue if Zabuza's sword can cut through Kimimaro's bones.

So I don't know, I'm waiting for some more opinions.

[benelori]

How come nobody is mentioning Zabuza's waterfall jutsu? That should make things more interesting right? As for the fight itself, it is a fight that is not easy for any of these fighters. Once Zabuza activates his mist, Kimimaro will activate his bone shield and most likely his cursed seal. Zabuza will know where Kimimaro is however he will not be able to attack. On the flip side, Kimimaro will not know where Zabuza is, however he can use his Bone Forest technique to attack the whole area possibly hitting Zabuza. It is a complete stalemate in my opinion. And if we do go by stats, these two are dead even.

Now if Zabuza can continuously attack Kimimaro with water jutsu from a range and attempt to drown him, possibly giving him a win. However, if Kimimaro gets within a decent range of Zabuza, things will definitely be in Kimimaro's favor, even more so because we have no clue if Zabuza's sword can cut through Kimimaro's bones.

So I don't know, I'm waiting for some more opinions.

I think the reason for that is being buried few hundred(?) meters underground and having experienced crushing pressure yet he still managed to survive, too bad the illness got the best of him...so most probably he will manage to survive every water jutsu Zabuza has with even less injuries

[khar2]

i am gonna go with "zabuza of the silent kill"

last time we saw kimmi fight he was on par with lee and gara, while zabuza had its with kakashi, at that time 2nd or 3rd strongest ninja in konoha

about kimmis last dance, well he wouldnt end up in ground so he couldnt surprise zabuza and mostly he would waste all his chakra on such attack
about other dances, well for anything bigger then few bones, he has to curse, making his own doom

on other hand zabuza just has to put up his mist, and i dont belive kimmi can find him anymore

i belive zabuza can win in game of attrition and in game of speed

[White Silver King]

last time we saw kimmi fight he was on par with lee and gara, while zabuza had its with kakashi, at that time 2nd or 3rd strongest ninja in konoha
Last time we saw Kimi he was suffering from a fatal disease that left him paralyzed. He was literally paralyzed and made himself move through sheer force of will. Anything that he did in that fight with Lee and Gaara couldn't have been more than a sliver of his real power. And Kimimaro also took out hundreds of Kybui Naruto clones and Kybui Naruto himself without getting touched - before that fight that was unheard of.

And why is releasing his Cursed Seal his "doom"?

[MonsterEnvy]

i am gonna go with "zabuza of the silent kill"

last time we saw kimmi fight he was on par with lee and gara, while zabuza had its with kakashi, at that time 2nd or 3rd strongest ninja in konoha

about kimmis last dance, well he wouldnt end up in ground so he couldnt surprise zabuza and mostly he would waste all his chakra on such attack
about other dances, well for anything bigger then few bones, he has to curse, making his own doom

on other hand zabuza just has to put up his mist, and i dont belive kimmi can find him anymore

i belive zabuza can win in game of attrition and in game of speed
Zabuza has no counter to the last dance and it has not been shown to use lots of chakra

Kimmimaro is faster then him and he does not need his curse seal to bring out large ammounts of bones and it won't kill him to use his curse

if the mist is put up all he has to do is use the last dance or just fire bone bullets everywere its not like Zabuza can hurt him anyway

[khar2]

Last time we saw Kimi he was suffering from a fatal disease that left him paralyzed. He was literally paralyzed and made himself move through sheer force of will. Anything that he did in that fight with Lee and Gaara couldn't have been more than a sliver of his real power. And Kimimaro also took out hundreds of Kybui Naruto clones and Kybui Naruto himself without getting touched - before that fight that was unheard of.

And why is releasing his Cursed Seal his "doom"?

yep and that is nice, situation with itachi was same
but just because he was sick dosnt mean he would be 10 times stronger/ faster if he was healthy(in japan when you are about to die you fight best:D)

also what he did was about his max, there would be no bigger jutsus, no nothing new,so to say just like with itachi it was his max

about speed, well we saw when neji attacked hinata we saw how much faster jounins are compared to genins, and here comes comparation of speed among lee, gara, and kimmi

seel being doom, well you know about statement that CS lv 2 eats chakra like mad and it eats body or something, and we saw kimmi has to enter seal do do anything more then bullets and casual sward, so if zabuza attacks he and he has to defeand he has to engage CS
(most of my comparation of sick kimmi is based on sick itachi, i mean if itachi was any faster itachi would become a fucking raikage)

and if zabuza turns mist there is no way kimmi can attack him, and defense would be taksing because of CS, and if kimmi persists on defense zabuza can do water jutsus:D

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Zabuza has no counter to the last dance and it has not been shown to use lots of chakra

Kimmimaro is faster then him and he does not need his curse seal to bring out large ammounts of bones and it won't kill him to use his curse

if the mist is put up all he has to do is use the last dance or just fire bone bullets everywere its not like Zabuza can hurt him anyway

what was the last dance???

hmm every time i think when kimmi was growing something more then sward seal on chest was expanding, but i will look again:D

[Rikudou King]

i am gonna go with "zabuza of the silent kill"

last time we saw kimmi fight he was on par with lee and gara, while zabuza had its with kakashi, at that time 2nd or 3rd strongest ninja in konoha

about kimmis last dance, well he wouldnt end up in ground so he couldnt surprise zabuza and mostly he would waste all his chakra on such attack
about other dances, well for anything bigger then few bones, he has to curse, making his own doom

on other hand zabuza just has to put up his mist, and i dont belive kimmi can find him anymore

i belive zabuza can win in game of attrition and in game of speed Zabuza's silent killing technique won't work here since Kimimaro can reinforce his body with his bones, making him nearly impossible to kill. Kimimaro easily dealing with Lee, who had speed comparable to Kakashi.

His last dance would still be quite the surprised once used and he doesn't require his CS to create bigger bones. And if Zabuza used the mist, then Kimimaro will be free to use his last dance to completely counter it.

[khar2]

Zabuza's silent killing technique won't work here since Kimimaro can reinforce his body with his bones, making him nearly impossible to kill. Kimimaro easily dealing with Lee, who had speed comparable to Kakashi.

His last dance would still be quite the surprised once used and he doesn't require his CS to create bigger bones. And if Zabuza used the mist, then Kimimaro will be free to use his last dance to completely counter it.

if he makes iner bones he wont be able to move, also big question is can bones resist big sword

and last dance wouldnt be much of a surprise if kimmi wouldnt end up under the ground, and even if kimmi did it what would stop zabuza just to move out of the range

[White Silver King]

ep and that is nice, situation with itachi was same
but just because he was sick dosnt mean he would be 10 times stronger/ faster if he was healthy(in japan when you are about to die you fight best)

also what he did was about his max, there would be no bigger jutsus, no nothing new,so to say just like with itachi it was his max

about speed, well we saw when neji attacked hinata we saw how much faster jounins are compared to genins, and here comes comparation of speed among lee, gara, and kimmi

seel being doom, well you know about statement that CS lv 2 eats chakra like mad and it eats body or something, and we saw kimmi has to enter seal do do anything more then bullets and casual sward, so if zabuza attacks he and he has to defeand he has to engage CS
(most of my comparation of sick kimmi is based on sick itachi, i mean if itachi was any faster itachi would become a fucking raikage)

and if zabuza turns mist there is no way kimmi can attack him, and defense would be taksing because of CS, and if kimmi persists on defense zabuza can do water jutsus

I'm sorry to be rude, but this entire post was just no. There isn't a single well-defined argument in it, so I stand by my post. And as far as we know, Itachi and Kimimaro suffered from completely different diseases, so they can't really be used to compare to each other for these purposes.



if he makes iner bones he wont be able to move, also big question is can bones resist big sword

Why wouldn't he be able to move? That doesn't make any sense. And I'm 100% positive his bones can stand up to Kubakiri (sp?). Chakra enhanced blades couldn't cut through his bones and those have cut everything like warm butter as far as we've seen. And IIRC, Kubikiri was almost cut in half by Bee with his chakra enhanced swords, so there's a comparison of strength.

[khar2]

I'm sorry to be rude, but this entire post was just no. There isn't a single well-defined argument in it, so I stand by my post. And as far as we know, Itachi and Kimimaro suffered from completely different diseases, so they can't really be used to compare to each other for these purposes.

maybe it could be, i dont know, i just cant shake feeling he failed agains 2 rookies:D


Why wouldn't he be able to move? That doesn't make any sense. And I'm 100% positive his bones can stand up to Kubakiri (sp?). Chakra enhanced blades couldn't cut through his bones and those have cut everything like warm butter as far as we've seen. And IIRC, Kubikiri was almost cut in half by Bee with his chakra enhanced swords, so there's a comparison of strength.

really, fuck me i dont remmember that???

[hakuthehedgehog]

Well then, f*** you xDDD (joking)

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/531/9

[Rarhyx]

maybe it could be, i dont know, i just cant shake feeling he failed agains 2 rookies:D


kimi? he didn't fail, his disease just killed him before he could kill gaara and lee

[biggchiefmo]

Kimimaro falls under a very special umbrella of ninja that are so over powered that they cant be killed, so Kishi takes them out with and unexplained disease, just like Itachi. Judging from the pic posted above i'm totally sure that Zabuza has 0% chance of winning, I mean his trump card is his silent killing techs which involve them mist in which he himself cant see through, when all Kimimaro's bones are out get close to him when you are unable to see his bones is suicide.

[khar2]

Well then, f*** you xDDD (joking)

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/531/9

thank you, i just need to find a new girl:D
wow i missed that, nice:D


kimi? he didn't fail, his disease just killed him before he could kill gaara and lee
i dont know, i still have feeling if it was kakashi against gara and lee, or gai(it would go waaaaaam for both of them) kimmi just wasnt fast
i know my arguments arent best with him being sick, but i dont know i still have feeling he fought rookies and zabuza fought elite

[Rarhyx]

thank you, i just need to find a new girl:D
wow i missed that, nice:D


i dont know, i still have feeling if it was kakashi against gara and lee, or gai(it would go waaaaaam for both of them) kimmi just wasnt fast
i know my arguments arent best with him being sick, but i dont know i still have feeling he fought rookies and zabuza fought elite

gaara is way stronger then the rookies, and here:
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-217/page012.html
lee and gaara are fast but couldn't protect or evade this attack, they would have died

[Rikudou King]

if he makes iner bones he wont be able to move, also big question is can bones resist big sword

and last dance wouldnt be much of a surprise if kimmi wouldnt end up under the ground, and even if kimmi did it what would stop zabuza just to move out of the range Kimimaro was able to resist being crushed by Gaara's sand by creating bones under his skin (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v24/c215/17.html), without losing the ability to move. If the bones can withstand a hit from a chakra infused blade, they can easily tank a hit from a normal blade.

It's be a surprise anyway, since Zabuza won't be excepting it and his last dance creates a enormous forest of bones fast enough that Zabuza won't be able to escape out of range.

[White Silver King]

And Kimimaro is not slow. He is actually very fast, his stat in "Speed" is 4.5. And if that doesn't mean anything to you he was able to easily evade Gaara's sand (until he sent that big ass wave but that was one of those few occasions when the size of the attack matters more than speed of the defender) which is incredibly fast as we all know. And that was without his CS1.

[benelori]

It's a comfortable win for the man who had the sturdier swords in this match. Congrats on advancing to the semis, where he will take on the power of the Springtime of Youth.