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mak123
October 30, 2011, 05:24 AM
Why are they making everything grreen? Bean is green, Menchi hair are green... BTW the episode was ok (but a "little" censored). I really hope DVD/BR will be unctted :)

lasso
October 30, 2011, 09:31 AM
Why are they making everything grreen? Bean is green, Menchi hair are green... BTW the episode was ok (but a "little" censored). I really hope DVD/BR will be unctted :)

Togashi maybe loves green, if you looked at the manga volume covers, it's always greenish, also it fits the theme of the anime. :)

i JUST hope we see red added to this lovely green scenes T_T

---------- Post added at 04:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:54 PM ----------

good episode, hisoka's VA official debut, and he was great.

Crude
October 30, 2011, 01:13 PM
Man... Hisoka sure was creepy in this episode. I mean look at those eyes! And knowing that he'll be even more of a creep later on...

Another cool episode, though it felt a tad short. The animation didn't seem as good as past episodes, though it was in no way bad. Can't wait to see round 2 of the exam in the next episode.

Uriel
October 30, 2011, 04:21 PM
Chapter was good, but I feel they're cutting the fighting movements a little bit. I'm waiting for proper fights to bitch on that as I should, since this is just fodders and non relevant to the story.

I still like this theme music WAY MORE than the first series. BTW, someone knows if any fandub later puts online the blue-ray version? Let me know when out :O

Remnant
October 30, 2011, 08:21 PM
I can't help wonder (and just put my butt in here): how many episodes is Hunter x Hunter going to make? Someone might have already answered this question, but I just wanna know. I want to believe it goes above 50 episodes (a year-long run or probably longer), but I can't seemingly believe it because Madhouse's taking the production. @.@

Divinenega
October 31, 2011, 06:23 AM
I can't help wonder (and just put my butt in here): how many episodes is Hunter x Hunter going to make? Someone might have already answered this question, but I just wanna know. I want to believe it goes above 50 episodes (a year-long run or probably longer), but I can't seemingly believe it because Madhouse's taking the production. @.@

It's slated for 45+ episodes meaning that they will at least do a minimum of 45 episodes, but if the series does well, they will make more.

Remnant
October 31, 2011, 06:33 AM
It's slated for 45+ episodes meaning that they will at least do a minimum of 45 episodes, but if the series does well, they will make more.
YEEE~EEES! Thanks!! I hope it does. It should reach the Chimera Ants arc. T.T I've gone obsessed with Hunter x Hunter for a while. @.@

Goral
October 31, 2011, 06:51 AM
5

This episode was a complete disaster. First minute was wasted on recap. Then for the next 7 minutes we've had a Pokemon display, poorly done at that. The director should know that what works for manga doesn't necessarily work for anime, alas he doesn't. When I have a name of an imaginary animal written on a margin of the page it doesn't bother me. But when the animation stops and I'm forced to watch it, it's another matter. Also, they've even screwed up copying what was in the manga which is a pathetic fail on their part. Claymore mushrooms weren't spewing poisonous gas when they were stepped upon, they were exploding. Hence the name CLAYMORE (claymores are mines). Killua and Gon being swallowed by a frog was also a very bad idea and a waste of time. It made them look like average hunter-wannabes since they've let themselves to be swallowed even though we've seen how aware of his surroundings they were (specially Gon), how good reflexes they've had and how strong and fast they were. I don't get what was the purpose of that scene besides wasting seconds. Even more stupid was the way they got out. A can of juice with a bit of laxative wouldn't work on some humans but it was enough for a being 20 times their size? WTF? Not to mention that what works on humans doesn't necessarily work on other species. Creators clearly wanted to show they're not only copying but also show their own ideas. Well, they've failed miserably. Leorio being attacked by this strawberry turtle was also a waste.

The second half of the episode wasn't much better. In a way it was worse since they've spoiled a great scene. For starters why the f*ck did these three wanted to attack Hisoka (I'm talking about the moment just before Killua warned Gon about Hisoka)? Especially after seeing what they saw at the beggining of the episode (i.e. him killing the impersonator and attacking Satotz). It gave them nothing and they were risking failing the exam so why do it? Neither in the manga nor in the new anime (which is better than the manga) was sth like that but they've had to show their "creativity" *sigh*. Later, when they were separated from the main group they've also attacked him first, lol. There were other things that I didn't like but the point is - they've managed to spoil such awesome scene and make it look horrible. And if someone thinks I'm overreacting I suggest they watch the first series (episode 7 I think).
I have to mention one thing though that wasn't mentioned by anyone from what I see. Kurapica was shown as a coward which is completely off the mark. He saw the fight and Leorio struggling and yet he did not come out to help. We know he knew since he screamed Leorio's name in the moment Leorio came to face Hisoka and also later he knew exactly what Gon was talking about with Hisoka (and I'm not talking about the part which Gon told him) and that Gon managed to hit Hisoka without him telling him that. And before you start your "but it was similar in the manga too" routine, let me tell you that I consider older anime as a better creation than manga.
Gon's fear mixed with excitement was also better displayed in the old version, in the new one his panting was plainly annoying. And the scene where Hisoka killed these small fries was also bad. A red circle could work 40 years ago, when the budgets were 10 times lesser than today and when drawing something more complicated would require a lot of work. But when over 10 year old anime shows a more detailed fight and shows Hisoka's finesse better I say there is something wrong with the new one. I thought that the new anime would be better at least on a technical level but even here it fails. Music is also a lot worse, for example at the start of the episode when they were running through the swamps. It was drawing too much of an attention and didn't fit too well. Or heavy metal bits (about 8th minute) and awful ending which aren't kids' music at all.

Another big fail was revealing who Hisoka was working with. I don't understand why they didn't show Gittarackur's face in the first place when they've shown everything else (i.e. his number and pins that he had all over his body). They did the same thing with Tonpa, following the manga closely instead of following the example of old anime but this time it was even worse. Anyway, it's another example of treating viewers like idiots and hand-holding. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3829432#post3829432) In the new anime we could see Hisoka talking with Gittarackur and nothing else, director did not think it was necessary to show the radio with navigation (the same Hisoka had) and the person who was holding it.

Last but not least, at the end of the episode narrator said that Gon has experienced mortal fear for the first time in his life, which is not true. If they ever include the scene that should have appeared in the first episode it will be a HUMONGOUS fail. For now it's just a fail.

Anyway, another proof that old anime > manga > new anime.

zelllogan
October 31, 2011, 07:29 AM
Even though I enjoy watching the new anime, it's true that it's hard to see the point of that remake. The first anime was good even if it was a little slow-paced. The new anime is showing a big default in the anime industry: it seems that there was no improvement in the last 10-15 years. My personal reference in terms of animation/graphics is still Samurai Champloo which is now 8 years old (and I can even compare most current animes to cowboy beebop ...). I nearly completely stopped watching anime for some years now & each time I try to watch a new one, I'm a little dissapointed by what I see.

In the new anime, I like the soundtrack & the fact that it is fast-paced ... but is it enough to make us forget about the old anime ?

Remnant
October 31, 2011, 07:33 AM
Even though I enjoy watching the new anime, it's true that it's hard to see the point of that remake. The first anime was good even if it was a little slow-paced. The new anime is showing a big default in the anime industry: it seems that there was no improvement in the last 10-15 years. My personal reference in terms of animation/graphics is still Samurai Champloo which is now 8 years old (and I can even compare most current anime to cowboy beebop ...). I nearly completely stopped watching anime for some years now & each time I try to watch a new one, I'm a little dissapointed by what I see.

In the new anime, I like the soundtrack & the fact that it is fast-paced ... but is it enough to make us forget about the old anime ?
True, but I think what they're trying to do is attract more fans with it, try to do some milking while it's popular, while the manga has resumed from its hiatus (and still remain top). I've watched the old anime from the beginning to the end to the OVAs. However, I was a child back then, and I can only seemingly recall bits of it. When they came back with the news of making the remake, I was happy with it actually. I was planning to watch the old Hunter x Hunter anime, but they got it when I almost started forgetting about it.

Also, I agree that it's fast-paced, but they dragged it far too long in episode 5. I didn't go any further as to nitpick what's good and what's not, but looking at it generally, it was somewhere far below the greatness it should be.

Uriel
October 31, 2011, 09:27 AM
I understand the point of not liking this chapter because I persoanlly think this has been the worst out of 5. But I also know that it's not yet time to make a final decision about animation and fighting.

After all, this was practically a fodder chapter.

Remnant
October 31, 2011, 09:43 AM
I understand the point of not liking this chapter because I persoanlly think this has been the worst out of 5. But I also know that it's not yet time to make a final decision about animation and fighting.

After all, this was practically a fodder chapter.
I agree. It started dragging from episode 4. It's most likely because of the background talk, but it still felt a bit dragging. It was good enough, but the fifth was just terrible. If I didn't read the manga, I wouldn't really understand what their point was and what they were getting to.

Still, some are just nitpicking on it. Can't say that they're wrong either. But I do have high expectations from Madhouse Studios because they always make those pew pew moments awesome and memorable.

hunted
October 31, 2011, 12:32 PM
may be they doing that as many of you know
they aiming for anew fans and dont make it well as most of us waiting
for the chimera ants arc and we will not care about the begining of the anime
and may be we skip it ....
but they miscalculate it and we old fans we hope the best for what we like

Crude
October 31, 2011, 02:09 PM
It's not really fair comparing the new anime to the old one, they're done by different studios. The new anime is using the manga as a guide, they're not going to use something produced by a different studio as a reference. I liked the original's pacing and storytelling better as well, at least when it came to the Hunter Exam. This new anime seems like it's going to be longer than the first and seeing as there's more manga material to adapt, the beginning is probably going to have a faster pace. This situation is kind of like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, in that the original FMA anime had less to adapt, so the beginning was quite slow compared to the rushed pace of Brotherhood's beginning. The new Hunter x Hunter anime will probably be following the manga quite closely, so I'm sure that the former will get better as did the latter.

Goral
October 31, 2011, 04:07 PM
Well, seeing how they've toned down the violence and how bad the director is at doing his job I have my doubts it will get better. I don't see how they can animate bug-arc when it was by far more violent than anything I've seen in any shounen (including such titles like Shingeki no Kyojin and Claymore). As for FMA:B for the same reason I didn't like it too much and I consider manga > old anime > new anime.

hunted
October 31, 2011, 04:30 PM
just example lets see the fighting of hisoka in manga
and compare it with what happen in the anime ...
so i perefer the fight in manga than new anime and the new anime didnt follow the manga ...
although the old anime done changes and delete sometimes but they done it well
and make it master piece

Tombadgerlock
October 31, 2011, 05:24 PM
What are you saying?

The fights in the old anime were even more bloodless.

Remnant
October 31, 2011, 08:17 PM
I feel it's a waste, really. To stop all that bloodshed, and Madhouse took the studios.

Nah, maybe I put Madhouse to much credit for the animation. Let's just hope they won't back down. Hunter x Hunter becomes alike with mind games, and I hope they won't make that the strong point for the new anime because it'll never be the best one.

mrsticky005
October 31, 2011, 08:26 PM
I feel it's a waste, really. To stop all that bloodshed, and Madhouse took the studios.

Nah, maybe I put Madhouse to much credit for the animation. Let's just hope they won't back down. Hunter x Hunter becomes alike with mind games, and I hope they won't make that the strong point for the new anime because it'll never be the best one.

HxH is being shown at 12pm. They CAN'T show blood. They need a better time slot first. But it's not yet popular enough.

Reach
October 31, 2011, 10:04 PM
The anime's great and stays loyal to the original! Still, I would prefer the fast pace that the first few episodes showed. Now, the pace seems it's back to normal. I'm not sure how long Togashi wants HxH to run, but if it continues in a normal pace, I guess he either wants to prolong the manga a bit more, or he doesn't find it necessary to sync the progress between the anime and manga.

Remnant
October 31, 2011, 11:39 PM
HxH is being shown at 12pm. They CAN'T show blood. They need a better time slot first. But it's not yet popular enough.
Oh, damn it. I can never perceive Hunter x Hunter as a show without blood. The seriousness of the atmosphere - it just can't achieve that at all. Oh well, can't do anything about it. >.<


The anime's great and stays loyal to the original! Still, I would prefer the fast pace that the first few episodes showed. Now, the pace seems it's back to normal. I'm not sure how long Togashi wants HxH to run, but if it continues in a normal pace, I guess he either wants to prolong the manga a bit more, or he doesn't find it necessary to sync the progress between the anime and manga.
Episode 5? I agree that the pacing was fast in the few episodes, and it was done well. However, in episode 5, I'd say it wasn't normal, more like dragging. You can tell that they were wasting minutes - unnecessary conversations and sometimes prolonging the unusual monster fights. They might as well leave the ending in episode 5 on the start of Phase 2 rather than just leave it with the presumption that they achieved/concluded something great in episode 5. And besides, showing off the unusual monsters (for sooo long) is abrupt. They wouldn't see them again in the next episodes.

Still, I want to believe that they're doing it in preparation for great fighting scenes.

...

But I can hardly believe that. I don't know how they'd compress the dialogue as well. The manga really does take a lot of it especially in the tournaments. Hope they still won't make it as worse as 5.

Divinenega
November 01, 2011, 06:45 AM
HxH is being shown at 12pm. They CAN'T show blood. They need a better time slot first. But it's not yet popular enough.

For starters it airs at 10:55 am, and they can have blood in that timeslot considering One Piece airs around that time in the morning and it;s pretty damn violent(and there has been some blood in the new anime, though not a lot of it).

The original anime was pretty heavily censored too. I think it;s too early to tell how censored it will be overall.

lan2cp
November 01, 2011, 04:51 PM
I just hope they are not leaving out Kaito from the new anime in order to take the Chimera Ant arc out also. :/

Netero
November 01, 2011, 06:31 PM
I just hope they are not leaving out Kaito from the new anime in order to take the Chimera Ant arc out also. :/

Their going to show him some time after the Hunter exam to lessen the gap between his first appearance and reappearance in the Chimera Ant arc.

Host Samurai
November 02, 2011, 04:57 AM
Does anyone know when the supposed DVD/Blu ray will come out? I heard that in this version the show is supposed to be uncut. So is there any date as of yet?

mrsticky005
November 02, 2011, 09:13 AM
For starters it airs at 10:55 am, and they can have blood in that timeslot considering One Piece airs around that time in the morning and it;s pretty damn violent(and there has been some blood in the new anime, though not a lot of it).

The original anime was pretty heavily censored too. I think it;s too early to tell how censored it will be overall.

Really? I guess I was wrong there. I heard it was 12 pm. But if it's 10:55 am then alright.

Does One Piece air on the same channel? Different networks might have different rules.
Also because it's One Piece and is so popular it might be able to get away with more.


well in any case we can only hope the dvd/blu ray version won't be so edited/censored.

Uriel
November 05, 2011, 11:59 PM
This chapter was good, although there are some things that surprised me. I understand they want to move quickly, but giving up to the Sushi thing was a bit much considering there was more wasteful scenes about the porks than needed. I also got surprised by Netero color palette but not in a bad way. I kinda like that double colored beard.

Now I'm wondering if they will cut the tower scenes. I bet it will, so I'm expecting that the arc about Genei is worth all this cuts.

Netero
November 06, 2011, 12:08 AM
The episode was good, I personally didn't mind the sushi part being removed because I found it kinda boring. Netero's new look in the anime is just awesome!!! I'm looking forward to the next episode because the great! Netero's in it:D

Charlie
November 06, 2011, 12:12 AM
How many episodes will this cover? I noticed they're going rather fast as well compared tot he original.

Netero
November 06, 2011, 12:22 AM
How many episodes will this cover? I noticed they're going rather fast as well compared tot he original.

The starting amount is 45+ episodes.

Uriel
November 06, 2011, 12:24 AM
The starting amount is 45+ episodes.
And they're going with 1 episode per 2 chapters, more and less. If they move like this they will reach at least Ryodan arc. I'm sure that by that instance they will start doing also Greed Island and if that's a success they will surely move on Chimera Arc! <3

Netero
November 06, 2011, 12:46 AM
And they're going with 1 episode per 2 chapters, more and less. If they move like this they will reach at least Ryodan arc. I'm sure that by that instance they will start doing also Greed Island and if that's a success they will surely move on Chimera Arc! <3

Yeah at the current pace the Hunter exam will be done by episode 20. The Zoldyck chapters should be covered within 3 episodes, and heavens arena will be around 11 or 12 episodes long, so that means we'll be at Yorkshin by episode 35 :^_^

mak123
November 06, 2011, 05:14 AM
Why did they change almost all the second trial? The Sushi part was way funnier...

mrsticky005
November 06, 2011, 07:44 AM
Why did they change almost all the second trial? The Sushi part was way funnier...

Probably so they could finish the second exam in this episode. They probably wanted to keep the second exam short
since it's the least exciting. Cooking sushi isn't all that exciting and I think they were able to get the same points across.

I think the sushi part works better in the manga where there are no time restraints.

Though I'm definitely looking forward to the next episode. :)

Skyguardian
November 06, 2011, 10:10 AM
Aya Hirano is such a great Seiyu... Nice episode. It's been a while for me with those HxH chapters... So it's nice to have a recap.

Crude
November 06, 2011, 10:56 AM
I'm liking Netero's slightly different look! And Menchi looks pretty good with green hair. I don't mind them cutting out the sushi part, I'd rather the second exam be just one episode.

Goral
November 06, 2011, 02:36 PM
6
Horrible, just horrible. I've completely lost my faith now and I'm starting to wish the remake would never happen. I never thought it would be possible for me to hate Hunter x Hunter anime but they've managed to screw everything up. So far every episode was either bad, ugly or bad and ugly. But the last two were just horrible. In this one the joke about Leorio's face being the same was omitted (which is one of my favorite scenes) and instead we've had filler sliding scene and creators showing us the search for boars. A minute was wasted to see how Gon and others go through the woods to find pigs, lol. And while I'm at it, it's hard to believe they wouldn't see pigs from this high ground (even if we take into account that trees would obstruct the view). But this was acceptable. What was not however was the method of incapacitating the boar. Apples falling from a tree could KO the killer-boar? Are they f*cking serious? If it was so easy that a mere apple could do that this species would be long gone. That's just ridiculous and treating the viewer like an idiot. And Menchi evaluating pigs was a fail. They've mixed up two tests into one, a brilliant idea. NOT. They've cut out some great scenes and prevented the viewers from getting to know better some of the characters. They also didn't show that Menchi deserves the title of a Hunter and that she could do sth none of the participants (except certain two individuals) could. Getting the eggs was sth that 42 Hunter candidates could easily achieve. And updraft? Are you kidding me? If the wind would be so strong that it could hold a person I don't see how the eggs could be still where they are.
FAIL.

Also, talk about being lazy, spider webs are in rectangles, lol. Another proof that old anime had better graphics. And the trumpet music is really annoying. It could fit a slap-stick comedy not HxH.
http://thumbnails37.imagebam.com/15784/c75dac157837713.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c75dac157837713)

exacta
November 06, 2011, 11:23 PM
6
Horrible, just horrible. I've completely lost my faith now and I'm starting to wish the remake would never happen. I never thought it would be possible for me to hate Hunter x Hunter anime but they've managed to screw everything up. So far every episode was either bad, ugly or bad and ugly. But the last two were just horrible. In this one the joke about Leorio's face being the same was omitted (which is one of my favorite scenes) and instead we've had filler sliding scene and creators showing us the search for boars. A minute was wasted to see how Gon and others go through the woods to find pigs, lol. And while I'm at it, it's hard to believe they wouldn't see pigs from this high ground (even if we take into account that trees would obstruct the view). But this was acceptable. What was not however was the method of incapacitating the boar. Apples falling from a tree could KO the killer-boar? Are they f*cking serious? If it was so easy that a mere apple could do that this species would be long gone. That's just ridiculous and treating the viewer like an idiot. And Menchi evaluating pigs was a fail. They've mixed up two tests into one, a brilliant idea. NOT. They've cut out some great scenes and prevented the viewers from getting to know better some of the characters. They also didn't show that Menchi deserves the title of a Hunter and that she could do sth none of the participants (except certain two individuals) could. Getting the eggs was sth that 42 Hunter candidates could easily achieve. And updraft? Are you kidding me? If the wind would be so strong that it could hold a person I don't see how the eggs could be still where they are.
FAIL.

Also, talk about being lazy, spider webs are in rectangles, lol. Another proof that old anime had better graphics. And the trumpet music is really annoying. It could fit a slap-stick comedy not HxH.
http://thumbnails37.imagebam.com/15784/c75dac157837713.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c75dac157837713)

Your being overdramatic. The pigs didn't get KO'd by apples....they got momentarily stunned by apples due to their incredibly soft heads, revealing their weakness and enabling everyone to KO them by smacking them in the head. Don't see what was so bad about that. Didn't have a problem with the updraft either.....honestly makes more sense for there to be some kind of mechanic like that then just jumping down a cliff and then climbing back up, thats should've been way too hard for the amount of passing applicants that resulted.

Plus they made that part of the test more detailed, something the manga lacked. The sushi part wasn't really neccessary.....both the pork part and the sushi part get the same point across - that Menchi is impossibly picky.

And I LOVE the pacing of this new series. The pacing of the old anime, well I didn't watch much of the beginning of it, but looking at the episode summary's based on the old anime, it went pretty damn slow, and that pacing seemed dry to me. This pacing is much more enjoyable, and let's be honest, this series has been rebooted. Its wiser for them to go through whats already been done more quickly so they can get to the content that hasn't been shown yet. Because thats much more enjoyable to watch, and ultimately the point of this reboot, is it not? I want to see the Chimera Ant arc animated and what follows. And were a long ways from getting there. I really don't want to watch stuff that's already been animated for the next 3 years before we get to the good stuff.

The voice acting is pretty good, and the music IMO is much better. I love the Hunter theme lol.

hgfdsahjkl
November 08, 2011, 04:09 PM
I'm with goral,cheap adaptation is cheap with exception of few seconds of kurapica vs leorio,everything has been subpar so far

Host Samurai
November 08, 2011, 06:13 PM
This is what I wrote in the Hangout thread but it definetly belongs in here as well.


Not for the Hunter exam itself but for the characterization of the side characters, such as Hanzo, who doesn't have that much screentime in the manga or anime. I found the sushi exam essential to show of his goofy side and not only his badass character (which will be shown vs. Gon in the final exam). But not only that, they even manage to not exploit Menchi's character at all. They failed to mention that she obtained the rank of a First Star Hunter (http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter11/153090-5.html) at the age of 21! These are minor details but they're still significant for the story itself.

Genesis
November 09, 2011, 01:10 AM
I recently saw that they are making another Hunter X hunter anime. This time with different cast and voice actors. Is it really worth seeing again?

Uriel
November 09, 2011, 11:27 AM
I recently saw that they are making another Hunter X hunter anime. This time with different cast and voice actors. Is it really worth seeing again?
The opinions are divided. I think so, but because I'm waiting for the new arcs to be animated and I don't really care about how they start.

ibra87
November 09, 2011, 03:34 PM
I agree with Uriel. They're doing it FMA style now, aka skipping all "needless" details in order to speed through the whole thing (i.e. they don't show Leorio get lost in the tunnel and then almost lose then remember his friend, instead when asked about his motivation he accidentally tells about it then powers through the tunnel instead, imo just as good).
And since it's HxH and it's helluva slow, you can betcha they'll slow down good at some point, my guess is late Greed Island and definitely the whole ant arc. All is worth it when you're waiting for the Kuroro scene at the hotel and for lightning Killua.

mrsticky005
November 09, 2011, 04:41 PM
I'm just waiting for the next episode. The animators really ought bring out the big guns
for the keep away game with Netero, Killua, and Gon and I think they will.

hokageji
November 10, 2011, 12:15 PM
Well the drawings are far better.... Kurapica doesnt look like a girl as much...

I think they should slow down near the part they enter the pyramid like structure, where tehy goup with tonka and stuff.... if they erally wanted to speed up so much, they should have jumped to the insect arc directy.

Remnant
November 11, 2011, 08:06 AM
Well the drawings are far better.... Kurapica doesnt look like a girl as much...
I've always wanted this change, and this is one of the few things that the anime really did do me great. However, Killua has become less cool and become more of a cutesy and a kid. Still, it might be just me. So far, I like how the characters are going on. I'm hoping they'll keep themselves strong.

mrsticky005
November 11, 2011, 11:05 AM
I've always wanted this change, and this is one of the few things that the anime really did do me great. However, Killua has become less cool and become more of a cutesy and a kid. Still, it might be just me. So far, I like how the characters are going on. I'm hoping they'll keep themselves strong.


Actually this is how Killua is in the manga...at first. The new anime is actually doing a much
better job with his character than the old anime which made him all angsty and emo-tastic.
Next episode you should see a pretty major "change" in Killua. He won't be so "cute" anymore.

Netero
November 13, 2011, 12:01 AM
So far episode 7 was the BEST! It followed chapter 13, and 14 perfectly. Netero, Gon, and KILLUA! are BEAST! and I'm really looking forward to episode 8. :^_^

mak123
November 13, 2011, 05:56 AM
Wow, they "showed" killua killing those 2 people. I wonder what will they do on the heart scene. BTW, am i wrong or the one with blue hair in the preview is a new guy?

TemplateR
November 13, 2011, 06:50 AM
Wow, they "showed" killua killing those 2 people. I wonder what will they do on the heart scene. BTW, am i wrong or the one with blue hair in the preview is a new guy?

With blood ? Or not ?

Damn.......I must catch up the anime. I have stopped at Episode 3 >.>

Host Samurai
November 13, 2011, 06:56 AM
So far episode 7 was the BEST! It followed chapter 13, and 14 perfectly. Netero, Gon, and KILLUA! are BEAST! and I'm really looking forward to episode 8. :^_^

I agree with you. This episode is by far the best that we have seen, yet!


Wow, they "showed" killua killing those 2 people. I wonder what will they do on the heart scene. BTW, am i wrong or the one with blue hair in the preview is a new guy?

That look on his face was totally badass. The dude with the scars on his face is just an insignificant character that encountered Hisoka.
http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter19/153101-12.html

Ustegius
November 13, 2011, 06:57 AM
Blue hair? Do you mean the guy with a scar across his face? If yes, then no, not a new character.

He is killed by Hisoka in the tower. I don't remember if he were in the manga, but atleast he were in the 1st anime

Edit: Oh, Host Samurai were faster...

Eloah
November 13, 2011, 09:15 AM
In this ep, Killua said to Gon: "The old man has barely used his right hand and his left leg"
http://i.imgur.com/RDkna.jpg
And in manga he explain to Gon almost in the same way
http://i.imgur.com/0HBT7.jpg
Now to the part where King chops off Netero's "arm and leg"
http://i.imgur.com/IuqWd.jpg
It's kinda interesting ^^

Uriel
November 13, 2011, 09:45 AM
With blood ? Or not ?
Damn.......I must catch up the anime. I have stopped at Episode 3 >.>
Actually it's shown the blood but as an explosion or something :P Was cool, anyway.


And I deeply enjoyed the movements this episode, it's how I want to see a fight but with less static photo shoots :P

mrsticky005
November 13, 2011, 11:07 AM
Actually it's shown the blood but as an explosion or something :P Was cool, anyway.


And I deeply enjoyed the movements this episode, it's how I want to see a fight but with less static photo shoots :P


Yeah there was some static photo shoots. But I think they managed to do it in a way that didn't feel slow and tedious.

This episode (episode 7) was win. Better than the old anime imo as we didn't have to bother with the silly "stowaway girl" filler.

It was cool that they kept the scene with Killua killing the two guys he bumped into even if they had to use a shadows and a distant angle.

But the main thing was that the "keep away" game with Netero vs Gon/Killua was a lot of fun as I had expected it to be.

lasso
November 13, 2011, 02:24 PM
Finally great episode, i also liked the the track played when killua attacked Netero.

They also dealt with the violent scene in a good manner, not too cute nor too stupid.

Next episode will show us the true metal of HxH, i hope they won't screw it.

Goral
November 13, 2011, 02:28 PM
Anyway, that was probably the best episode so far. Loved the animation during Netero's little game with Gon and Killua.
Surprisingly I agree.I would put this episode on par with the old anime. At some aspects it was better but at some it was worse hence my verdict. The better part was that overall it stuck better to the original. Including Anita was a bad move and not showing Killua killing a guy was also a letdown in the old version. On the other hand, Hisoka was better shown in the old version and the first part of the fight with Netero was also done better in the old version IMO. I'm not entirely sure but I think in the new version they forgot to mention that Killua and Gon were offered Hunter license if they won. Here they were eager to do it just for fun. Also, in the new version it's been explicitly stated that if Netero was ordinary human his shinbone would be shattered but I've had an impression Netero was talking about Killua. Although that probably was translator's fault, not creator of the anime. Another thing, Anita noticing that Gon wouldn't be able to take the ball even if he trained 1 year made more sense than Killua saying it if we take into account that Killua later said he was afraid he would have killed Netero. Yeah, and how would he do that to a person he wouldn't be able to beat in a ball-brawl even after 1 year of training? But these are minor things and overall it was the first good episode (I wonder though if I'm not saying it partially because of what I saw one week ago, which was so crappy that in comparison everything decent would look like a godly episode).

Oh, one more thing. It's a shame there was no fanservice here :P. Old anime creators knew how to keep slightly older audience entertained ;P.
http://thumbnails63.imagebam.com/15913/5b189d159123185.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5b189d159123185) http://thumbnails61.imagebam.com/15913/2d88d5159123194.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d88d5159123194) http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/15913/718b4c159123201.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/718b4c159123201) http://thumbnails65.imagebam.com/15913/de0ae7159123181.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/de0ae7159123181)

As for the episode itself, my favorite part was the one where Netero told the captain of the ship to slow down to let Gon rest. Him being a nice old geezer is one of the reasons I consider him as one of my favourite (if not all time favourite) character in HxH.

Uriel
November 13, 2011, 02:42 PM
Goral, He DID mention that if they won they would be Hunters. :O

Goral
November 13, 2011, 03:02 PM
You're right, my mistake.

mrsticky005
November 13, 2011, 04:15 PM
About Netero's beard being multicolored...

It's actually that way early in the manga. I don't remember if it changes though

Netero
November 13, 2011, 05:20 PM
About Netero's beard being multicolored...

It's actually that way early in the manga. I don't remember if it changes though

His beard stays the multicolored white and grey in the beginning of the manga, but then later is changed to all white.

beginning http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter37/153128-11.html

GI http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter148/153319-15.html

During the chimera anthttp://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter202/153398-2.html

Kiba
November 14, 2011, 11:58 AM
I want to see blood like in the old Hunter x Hunter :(

I hope they will show this scene or else i am really really dissapointed

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3657/030412xy6.jpg

and I really hate the background music its makes me somehow really angry because the old Hunter x Hunter had all good background music,blood it was just perfect :^_^

mrsticky005
November 14, 2011, 05:13 PM
I want to see blood like in the old Hunter x Hunter :(

I hope they will show this scene or else i am really really dissapointed

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3657/030412xy6.jpg

and I really hate the background music its makes me somehow really angry because the old Hunter x Hunter had all good background music,blood it was just perfect :^_^


I wish there was blood too. But censorship is censorship. :(

But I gotta disagree with you. The background music is great. :)

Host Samurai
November 14, 2011, 07:25 PM
I wish there was blood too. But censorship is censorship. :(

But I gotta disagree with you. The background music is great. :)

For some reason i think that the background isn't that memorable compared to the original series. The only song that I find memorable is apparently Hisoka's theme song, which is starting to grow on me. Other then that I don't pay much attention to it...

chikkychappy
November 14, 2011, 07:40 PM
as far as i remember, there wasn't blood in the first series at this point

Kiba
November 15, 2011, 03:36 PM
as far as i remember, there wasn't blood in the first series at this point
well maybe but still they showed many brutal parts

mrsticky005
November 15, 2011, 06:20 PM
well maybe but still they showed many brutal parts

The first series was pretty mild compared to the manga as well. If it was more violent than the new series
then it's probably because censorship is likely more strict in Japan now then it was back then. It sucks
but it's something we all have to deal with. Now hopefully the version we see is a "broadcast version"
and they have a uncut version on dvd. But I dunno if they do that in Japan. I hope so.

TemplateR
November 16, 2011, 10:15 AM
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8499/hxh2011.png


It seems, that HxH get a new timeslot. But its uncorfirmed now and I don´t think so, that it will have a new timeslot.

Host Samurai
November 16, 2011, 01:40 PM
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8499/hxh2011.png


It seems, that HxH get a new timeslot. But its uncorfirmed now and I don´t think so, that it will have a new timeslot.

This news is like an early christmas gift. I hope that they'll change the timeslot for it.

Netero
November 16, 2011, 03:13 PM
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8499/hxh2011.png


It seems, that HxH get a new timeslot. But its uncorfirmed now and I don´t think so, that it will have a new timeslot.
OMFG!!!! :yay I hope MADHOUSE can get the time slot changed the more gore the better....:kukuku

TemplateR
November 16, 2011, 03:18 PM
@Netero: NTV is making the timeslots for their programms not Madhouse.

Netero
November 16, 2011, 03:28 PM
@Netero: NTV is making the timeslots for their programms not Madhouse.

Oh.. well anyways thanks for correcting me lol.

chikkychappy
November 16, 2011, 06:51 PM
uhhh not confirmed yet at all XD don't get your hopes up...


edit:
http://www.ntv.co.jp/hunterhunter/intro/index.html



日本テレビの新しい放映枠である毎週日曜午前10:55~11:25にて、
10月2日より放送!(放送時間は変更になる場合があります。)
日曜の朝に、日本テレビにてゴンたちの新しい冒険が始まります!




10:55 to 11:25 every Sunday morning at a new airtime NTV,
Broadcast from October 02! (Air time may be subject to change.)
Sunday morning, we begin a new adventure in Nippon Gon!


so there's a possibility depending on certain factors, but no actual plans yet

Netero
November 20, 2011, 01:04 AM
I just got done watching episode 8 a little bit ago and it was awesome. It did a great job following chapters 15, 16, and I'm pretty sure the first 9 pages of chapter 17 of the manga. The next episode should be really good.

mrsticky005
November 20, 2011, 06:16 AM
I just got done watching episode 8 a little bit ago and it was awesome. It did a great job following chapters 15, 16, and I'm pretty sure the first 9 pages of chapter 17 of the manga. The next episode should be really good.

I thought it was an alright episode. Not a whole lot happened but I think it was presented well. It's good we got about 2 and 1/2 chapters this time around. The ending with Sedokan
and Gon about to fight is better than had it ended with Tompa saying "I don't want to be
a Hunter" because really that goes without saying. So it's nice to get that all out of the way.

hunted
November 20, 2011, 06:42 AM
the ep have the chapters 15 and 16 and 9 pages from 17 as you say
but the reaction of the 4 when tonba gave up is better in the old anime
and the begining of the fight they say it is adeath fight and didnt mention
the give up condition so how tonba give up

TemplateR
November 20, 2011, 09:33 AM
So catched up the 8 episodes and I must say, the anime-adaption is much better than the old version. great and fast pace, neat animation, very good music and no fillers (!!!).

I was also disappointed about the excluding of the sushi-part, but I think they will be done as an OVA.

Goral
November 20, 2011, 10:02 AM
lol
Fillers in HxH were so uncommon and subtle that most people haven't even noticed they were there. In fact most of them enriched the story and characters making everything more logical (hence I consider old anime better than manga). Graphics was also better and I would prefer blu-ray remastered edition of HxH than new anime where director doesn't know how to direct. Just read my posts here or on Animesuki where I exactly point out what's wrong with this anime. Even the newest episode was worse than the old one. This mercenary guy didn't say that in their deathmatch you don't have to kill but you can also win by making your opponent say that he was defeated. Normally one would think that in a deathmatch at least one person must die, here Tonpa *knew* it was an option. Also, in the last episode they said 42 people remained and in this one 40, so there's lack of consistency even at this stage. Overall decent episode but still somehow in the old anime they've managed to include more information in the same amount of time and showing the same amount of pages of the manga.

hunted
November 20, 2011, 10:43 AM
i think when they reach to the point when gon have the hunter card
they will enter to ant arc immediatly and the whole episodes before
was just like flash backs

Uriel
November 20, 2011, 10:44 AM
still somehow in the old anime they've managed to include more information in the same amount of time and showing the same amount of pages of the manga.
Np. just no.
Look the number of this episode. Now look the number of the same event on the old anime series.

Goral
November 20, 2011, 11:11 AM
I was referring to 8th episode only, not whole anime overall. Compare 8th episode of new anime and 13th episode of old anime, they start and end at the same moment but there are more dialogues (and relevant information) in the old version.

rosco12
November 20, 2011, 02:43 PM
I was referring to 8th episode only, not whole anime overall. Compare 8th episode of new anime and 13th episode of old anime, they start and end at the same moment but there are more dialogues (and relevant information) in the old version.

I don t know you so I might be wrong, but it seems to me that your comparing a subtitle version with the dubbed in english version of the old one. When someone does subtitle they remove part of the dialogs because they would take too much place.
Your complaint that there is no mention of the possibility of giving up during Tompa fight might actually not be true it might be there in japanese but not in the subtitle.
You can take a One piece episode and compare both version at the same time the subtitle one will indeed suppress some dialogs.

CopyNinjaKakashi
November 20, 2011, 03:21 PM
lol
Also, in the last episode they said 42 people remained and in this one 40, so there's lack of consistency even at this stage.

There were 42 people that got onto the airship. Killua killed 2 of them after the game with Netero. Therefore, 40 were left to begin the 3rd exam.

mrsticky005
November 23, 2011, 06:30 AM
I was referring to 8th episode only, not whole anime overall. Compare 8th episode of new anime and 13th episode of old anime, they start and end at the same moment but there are more dialogues (and relevant information) in the old version.

The old anime was less consistent with the number of chapters in an episode sometimes we got one and other times we got many.

here it has practically always been 2 to 2 and 1/2 chapters per episode.

Federicoxxx
November 23, 2011, 12:15 PM
f*** reboot? .. i already saw it....this.. sucks....

Chimera Ants Arc...or nothing...

i prefer 2 see something new .than something i already saw..

even if is less censored...and is a better animation..

so never goin to see meyrem vs netero...

this truly sucks...

bye..

Salce
November 24, 2011, 07:30 PM
so never goin to see meyrem vs netero...

this truly sucks...
Never?
Clearly this remake is being made ​​with the intention of reaching the Ant Arc.

mrsticky005
November 27, 2011, 01:11 AM
latest episode. We see Kurapica's scarlet eyes. They match his initial appearance in the manga.
With having the white light ring around the pupil of his eye. Though they seem to change later in the series.

The one thing I didn't like so much in this episode was Kurapica didn't have his angry face when he was about to punch Majitani
but instead had this zoned out face which felt like it was done because it was easier to draw. But whatever the eyes look cool.

One thing to look forward to is that when Kurapica fights Uvogin in the anime he had only one Scarlet eye showing (the other eye
had the black contact lens on) while in the manga he has both eyes with the Scarlet eyes. I think it should look pretty cool
when they get that far because it's at night and all and the eyes will glow in the dark.

Netero
November 27, 2011, 01:26 AM
Episode 9 was good. The animation was solid. Kurapika's scarlet eyes looked great, and the music fit pretty well with the scenes. We'll most likely see Killua's fight at episode 11 because we still have to get through Leorio, and Hisoka's parts of the exam.

Host Samurai
November 27, 2011, 07:10 AM
This episode was well done. The BGM when Majitani revealed his tatoo gave me some hopes, it was awesome to be honest and matched the scene perfectly.

Can someone make me a sig out of this? :D

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4748/bildschirmfoto20111127u.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/bildschirmfoto20111127u.png/)

Uriel
November 27, 2011, 01:04 PM
It was quite good. I personally don't like some pacing in the actions, but they're still doing it better than last show.

---------- Post added at 03:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:25 PM ----------

BTW, for the haters: Manga/Old/ New

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvbw59WtvT1r53x0lo1_250.jpg
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvbw59WtvT1r53x0lo2_250.jpghttp://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvbw59WtvT1r53x0lo3_250.jpg

:D

Rowel
November 27, 2011, 01:13 PM
Sorry. I've been lazy. Not much is different between versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh3.jpg

Episode 8 in the new series contains the same amount of content from episode 13 in the old one. That's mainly because the old series began to pick up their pace, though. The last three pages of 14, chapters 15, 16, and ten pages of 17 are all covered.

First thing: This rock climber.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds3.jpg
Same thing pretty much happens in both versions--the scenes are mostly just directed differently. Fun fact--the climber in the 1999 series is voiced by Yoshihiro Togashi: the creator of the series.

Lippo is introduced.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo3.jpg
Minor differences: Lippo now has purple hair and isn't wearing sunglasses like the manga. A major difference is that Lippo isn't accompanied by two professional Hunters in the 1999 series--two convicts serve as his lackeys. The new series puts the Hunters back in.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/LippoJudge1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/LippoJudge2.jpg

In the 1999 series, Gon and Killua find the secret door in Trick Tower but Leorio and Kurapika are the ones who test and deduce how they work. In the manga and anime, Gon and Killua are the ones who observe how the doors work.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile3.jpg
I like how the new series showed Gon playing with Killua's skateboard and Kil using Gon's fishing rod.

The interior lighting is different. The aesthetic is different.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena3.jpg

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot3.jpg
Since there's a narrator (and wordboxes) in this series, information is conveyed in a less clunky manner. In the 1999 series, Lippo's prisoners have to talk about it so the viewer knows (because there's no narrator).

The characterization is different again. Tonpa says that his cowardice is the only reason why he became a rookie killer. After he states his betrayal, everyone in their party gets really mad (as opposed to here--it's only Leorio). Killua makes a move to kill Tonpa, but Gon says something obvious and stupid and Killua stops.

This guy comes out.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan3.jpg

Gon wants to take him on!
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes3.jpg

Anyways, very similar episodes. Until next week. by Popo

Popo
November 27, 2011, 03:41 PM
Sorry. I've been lazy. Not much is different between versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Uh3.jpg

Episode 8 in the new series contains the same amount of content from episode 13 in the old one. That's mainly because the old series began to pick up their pace, though. The last three pages of 14, chapters 15, 16, and ten pages of 17 are all covered.

First thing: This rock climber.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/WeirdBirds3.jpg
Same thing pretty much happens in both versions--the scenes are mostly just directed differently. Fun fact--the climber in the 1999 series is voiced by Yoshihiro Togashi: the creator of the series.

Lippo is introduced.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Lippo3.jpg
Minor differences: Lippo now has purple hair and isn't wearing sunglasses like the manga. A major difference is that Lippo isn't accompanied by two professional Hunters in the 1999 series--two convicts serve as his lackeys. The new series puts the Hunters back in.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/LippoJudge1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/LippoJudge2.jpg

In the 1999 series, Gon and Killua find the secret door in Trick Tower but Leorio and Kurapika are the ones who test and deduce how they work. In the manga and anime, Gon and Killua are the ones who observe how the doors work.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonKilSmile3.jpg
I like how the new series showed Gon playing with Killua's skateboard and Kil using Gon's fishing rod.

The interior lighting is different. The aesthetic is different.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerRoom3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/TrickTowerArena3.jpg

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Bendot3.jpg
Since there's a narrator (and wordboxes) in this series, information is conveyed in a less clunky manner. In the 1999 series, Lippo's prisoners have to talk about it so the viewer knows (because there's no narrator).

The characterization is different again. Tonpa says that his cowardice is the only reason why he became a rookie killer. After he states his betrayal, everyone in their party gets really mad (as opposed to here--it's only Leorio). Killua makes a move to kill Tonpa, but Gon says something obvious and stupid and Killua stops.

This guy comes out.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/Sedokan3.jpg

Gon wants to take him on!
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%208/GonGoes3.jpg

Anyways, very similar episodes. Until next week.
Thanks for not crediting me for my work/reposting it without asking first, bro.

This episode covers the rest of chapter 17 and all of 18 from the manga, and corresponds to episode 14 of the 1999 series.

Very similar episodes again. A few differences in characterization.

Sedokan presents the disparate choice--the long candle or the short one? In the 1999 series, he flips his hair all of the time and is outwardly devious. In the manga and 2011 series, he seems relaxed.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanCandle1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanCandle2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanCandle3.jpg

Logistic difference. In the 1999 series, Sedokan sets the candles down in front of him instead of behind him. In the manga and 2011 series, he sets them down behind him in order to make the switch.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanSit1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanSit2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/SedokanSit3.jpg

The manga had a panel illustrating a disparate choice through the card game Old Maid. The 1999 series just had Kurapika explain it without illustrating that. The 2011 series draws Kurapika and Leorio into the scenario.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/OldMaid1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/OldMaid2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/OldMaid3.jpg

The way Gon handles situations is different in the 1999 series. When his candle's flame erupts, he starts panicking. He sort of juggles it and wails the entire time until the wax nearly all melts. Gon drops the remains of the candle because it's too hot, but figures out that it will stay lit because it's burning so hot. In the manga, Gon doesn't panic one bit. He doesn't yell or scream, just calmly analyzes what to do, sets the candle down, and takes care of business. In the 2011 series, Gon panics a bit less.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonCandle1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonCandle2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonCandle3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonWins1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonWins2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/GonWins3.jpg

Majitani comes out. He's...blue? I don't think that there's any real reason for his skin color change. Even though the manga never officially gives him a color, it's still kind of weird. Gon doesn't remark that Majitani seems weak until near the end of the episode in the 1999 version, as opposed to when the fight begins in the 2011 series and manga. He's played by Kazuki Yao in this version.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/Majitani1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/Majitani2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/Majitani3.jpg

Kurapika isn't wearing two undershirts in the 2011 series like in the 1999 series and manga--just his white overshirt.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniPunch1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniPunch2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniPunch3.jpg

Majitani's tattoo is more detailed in the 2011 version.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniTattoo1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniTattoo2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/MajitaniTattoo3.jpg

Kurapika's scarlet eyes are cooler in this version, thanks to digital technology. But we don't get to see his earring.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaScarlet1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaScarlet2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaScarlet3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaWins1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaWins2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaWins3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaThreat1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaThreat2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%209/KurapikaThreat3.jpg

That's about it, really. The episode in the 1999 version continues with some material from chapter 19, but I'll go into that comparison next week.

zelllogan
November 27, 2011, 03:48 PM
thks Rowel, I quit watching the new anime and when I see the differences, I'm glad I did. All in all, it's simply not much better than the old one. It's not bad but I don't see the point from an artistic point of view.

LoS
November 27, 2011, 04:35 PM
I am really enjoying this new anime. I enjoy the pacing, the action sequences are done well, the animation is solid. Sure there are things here and there that I don't agree with. I also a times enjoy the old anime for it's gritty colors and style for structures and such more than the clean vibrant new style. The soundtrack for this season has been good as well.

On the whole I enjoy this new version more than the older...

Uriel
November 27, 2011, 08:20 PM
thks Rowel, I quit watching the new anime and when I see the differences, I'm glad I did. All in all, it's simply not much better than the old one. It's not bad but I don't see the point from an artistic point of view.
But but...Old anime is even WAY FAR of the manga! O_O

Goral
November 28, 2011, 03:06 AM
thks Rowel, I quit watching the new anime and when I see the differences, I'm glad I did. All in all, it's simply not much better than the old one. It's not bad but I don't see the point from an artistic point of view.As Popo stated Rowel impudently just copied and pasted her post from Animesuki without crediting her in any way.

Here are links to her comparisons:
ep. 1 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3795541#post3795541
ep. 2 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3800018#post3800018
ep. 3 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3811661#post3811661
ep. 4 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3821716#post3821716
ep. 5 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3833267#post3833267
ep. 6 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3845690#post3845690
ep. 7 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3860389#post3860389
ep. 8 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3870897#post3870897


But but...Old anime is even WAY FAR of the manga! O_O
No it's not. They're comparable in that department. And when old anime doesn't input fillers it's WAY BETTER than new anime and better than manga :P.

Uriel
November 28, 2011, 10:30 AM
Wow, thanks for those links! Now I know this version IS superior.
You may like filler, but I prefer not.

Popo
November 28, 2011, 01:29 PM
Thank you, Goral. I appreciate it.

I'll start posting the comparisons weekly on this board for you all to read as well.

Uriel
November 28, 2011, 01:37 PM
THANK YOU! I deeply enjoy those and makes me have a better perspective of what I am seeing. I enjoy this series more than the older one and it's hard to discuss when you don't have the proper tools to do it.

I think that old and new series are both worth it (After all I read the manga after I saw the anime) but I don't think the new one is completely wrong when they started to do it since 0. It was, and now I can see it, a wise marketing decision. There are plenty new watchers (Tumblr informs me well of those xD) thanks to this.

syx
November 28, 2011, 01:55 PM
I like the old Killua more than the new one. But that's it, overall the new series is much more better than the old one.

Does anybody know in which arc the old series ended? It's so long since I watched the old series. Damn, HXH had/has so much potential.

Netero
November 28, 2011, 02:05 PM
I like the old Killua more than the new one. But that's it, overall the new series is much more better than the old one.

Does anybody know in which arc the old series ended? It's so long since I watched the old series. Damn, HXH had/has so much potential.

The old series ended at Yorkshin after Zeno, and Silva fought Kuroro. Then a few years later the anime was continued with three OVA's that would end right after Greed Island when Gon uses the accompany card he received for finishing GI.

Crude
November 28, 2011, 02:49 PM
Kurapika was badass in this episode! I really like how they made his eyes look in the new anime. And the bgm playing when he noticed Majitani's fake Genei Ryodan tattoo was cool. I can't really make a comparison between the old and new anime series since it's been a long time since I've seen the former, but I think they're both equally good. I am going to miss the Battleship Island filler though, I think that it was a pretty good addition to the Hunter Exam.

Host Samurai
November 28, 2011, 04:32 PM
Wow, these comparison are well done. Respect Popo. How long does it take for you to this?

And why on earth did they miss the opportunity to show off Kurapika's earring (http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter18/153100-14.html)?! They made an improvement this episode regarding the background music, I hope that they'll keep on improving in that departement.

hachikurooo
November 29, 2011, 08:00 AM
Really enjoyed this week's episode, and the animation quality is much better than what we've had for the past few episodes. I liked how they emphasized Kurapika's eyes, I can imagine why people would want to buy and collect those in the brutal world of HxH.

hgfdsahjkl
November 29, 2011, 05:57 PM
imo,the old one is sooooooooooooo much superior

^^ that's an awesome sig

mrsticky005
December 03, 2011, 06:05 AM
One thing that I think I may miss from the '99 series (if they leave it out) is the final tournament fights. Gon vs Hanzo and Killua vs Gittarucker
are the only ones that are really shown. Though others are implied to happen. Personally I hope they show all the fights even if only for a short while. Actually that's what I would prefer. Just a full episode of short bouts. It just feels lacking not to have these fights.

Also who is the guy Killua fights that looks like Darth Maul's cousin? Is he anime only?

I mean this guy

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/_SojEfr2G9g/0.jpg

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http://www.ntv.co.jp/hunterhunter/bluraydvd/index.html

Hey, I can't read Japanese and I don't think Google translate is the most reliable.
But it looks like the DVD and BluRay of Hunter x Hunter 2011 will arrive in Jan 25 2012.
Also according to the Google translate it's saying "Bonus 70 minutes for this volume (planned)"
so I dunno. Perhaps there will more added into the DVDs and BluRay?

TemplateR
December 03, 2011, 10:48 AM
http://www.ntv.co.jp/hunterhunter/bluraydvd/index.html

Hey, I can't read Japanese and I don't think Google translate is the most reliable.
But it looks like the DVD and BluRay of Hunter x Hunter 2011 will arrive in Jan 25 2012.
Also according to the Google translate it's saying "Bonus 70 minutes for this volume (planned)"
so I dunno. Perhaps there will more added into the DVDs and BluRay?

Bonus 70 minutes ? I hope, that they mean a "Making of"-Film with 70 minutes and not Episodes with 70min extra time.

Netero
December 04, 2011, 12:00 AM
@mrsticky005 yup Darth Maul's cousin was an anime only character.

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I just got done watching ep 10 and it seriously was fantastic! and I personally feel the past 3 or 4 episodes have been absolutely amazing.

mrsticky005
December 04, 2011, 12:56 AM
Bonus 70 minutes ? I hope, that they mean a "Making of"-Film with 70 minutes and not Episodes with 70min extra time.

Just remember that's google translate and I don't speak Japanese. However for those that do I thought it might be worth taking a look.

Though why not 70 minutes extra time?


@mrsticky005 yup Darth Maul's cousin was an anime only character.

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I just got done watching ep 10 and it seriously was fantastic! and I personally feel the past 3 or 4 episodes have been absolutely amazing.


Ah that's too bad. I liked his fight simply for the fact that Killua stomped him.


Episode 10 was good. Though it looks like it was just 1 and 1/2 chapters this time

I thought they did well with Hisoka vs the dude with scars.
I was expecting that they wouldn't directly show the decapitation
but the shadow version of it was done well.

Uriel
December 04, 2011, 02:29 AM
I'm loving more and more Hisoka's new theme.

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http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo3hk1L4I1qenmvqo1_400.gif
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo3hk1L4I1qenmvqo2_400.gif

Netero
December 04, 2011, 02:43 AM
I'm loving more and more Hisoka's new theme.

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http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo3hk1L4I1qenmvqo1_400.gif
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo3hk1L4I1qenmvqo2_400.gif
This fight was awesome! now I can't wait to see what Gon vs Hanzo is going to be like.

mrsticky005
December 04, 2011, 03:10 AM
I kinda prefer Hisoka just plain catching the knives in the manga because he makes it
look so easy but it was a good "psyche" moment when it looks like got stabbed by them
but really he just caught them close to his stomach and the examiner is like "Oh f..."

Jonas looks pretty cool in the preview.

I hope/think they will show the heart scene.

Divinenega
December 04, 2011, 07:41 AM
^

After partially showing the decapitation(which they kept out of the original anime I might add) I;m at least 95% sure the heart scene will be there. Though it's now a matter of how they do it. I assume they'll either do it exactly like the original(which wasn't really all THAT violent of a scene) or they'll show a red spot in the dude's chest and do a shadow censor like with the decapitation. So long as it;s still in there I don;t care which way it;s done.

On the note of this week's episode though, it was pretty amazing. The Hisoka fight looked gorgeous, and the OST is starting to do a much better job of matching the scenes. It's been a while since I;ve seen this part of the series, but I think it;s being handled pretty well. The anime team seems to have reached a balance off making it fun for kids, while still including all of the darker stuff for the older audiences.

I would say this week's episode was better than in the old anime overall(though some will still disagree).

Crude
December 04, 2011, 10:20 AM
Hisoka fought like a BOSS! I loved the fight scene, it was very well animated. And Leorio was pretty badass too. I hope that Hisoka's awesome fight is a good sign for things to come (Gon vs Hanzo!).

shareme
December 04, 2011, 03:37 PM
I'm loving more and more Hisoka's new theme.

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http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo3hk1L4I1qenmvqo2_400.gif

Hisoka looks... umm... very FLEXIBLE o.O *naughty thoughts* ufufufu

Uriel
December 04, 2011, 04:56 PM
Hisoka looks... umm... very FLEXIBLE o.O *naughty thoughts* ufufufu
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvoyuvWGhl1qkblq0o1_500.gif
Hisoka likes it.


Another pic of his flexibility:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvp2diirXd1qe95joo1_r1_500.gif

mrsticky005
December 05, 2011, 05:29 AM
^

After partially showing the decapitation(which they kept out of the original anime I might add) I;m at least 95% sure the heart scene will be there. Though it's now a matter of how they do it. I assume they'll either do it exactly like the original(which wasn't really all THAT violent of a scene) or they'll show a red spot in the dude's chest and do a shadow censor like with the decapitation. So long as it;s still in there I don;t care which way it;s done.

On the note of this week's episode though, it was pretty amazing. The Hisoka fight looked gorgeous, and the OST is starting to do a much better job of matching the scenes. It's been a while since I;ve seen this part of the series, but I think it;s being handled pretty well. The anime team seems to have reached a balance off making it fun for kids, while still including all of the darker stuff for the older audiences.

I would say this week's episode was better than in the old anime overall(though some will still disagree).


I'm not actually too worried about the Killua heart scene. I think it will happen.

I'm more worried about the Hisoka carrying Geretta's head scene.
It seems like they won't show it. Not directly at least. Maybe
they'll just show Hisoka dragging along Geretta's entire dead body?
I hope they show the head. It doesn't need to be bloody and all.
Just decapitated.

Though for much farther in the series with Killua vs the Chimera Ants in Volume 23.
I think they could still have the scene. It would just be made a lot less violent.
Like instead of Killua beheading everyone it would be Killua just beating everyone up.
It's not as cool of course but it beats not having the scene at all. Hopefully though
by that time they'll be more lenient on the censoring or won't censor at all.

Netero
December 05, 2011, 06:44 AM
I'm not actually too worried about the Killua heart scene. I think it will happen.

I'm more worried about the Hisoka carrying Geretta's head scene.
It seems like they won't show it. Not directly at least. Maybe
they'll just show Hisoka dragging along Geretta's entire dead body?
I hope they show the head. It doesn't need to be bloody and all.
Just decapitated.

Though for much farther in the series with Killua vs the Chimera Ants in Volume 23.
I think they could still have the scene. It would just be made a lot less violent.
Like instead of Killua beheading everyone it would be Killua just beating everyone up.
It's not as cool of course but it beats not having the scene at all. Hopefully though
by that time they'll be more lenient on the censoring or won't censor at all.

I'm 95% sure the heart scene will be shown. The first anime only showed Hisoka carrying Geretta's hat so I'm not sure how the scene will be handled in the new anime, but it definitely would be cool if it's shown with Hisoka carrying his head :^_^

hunter71485
December 05, 2011, 07:15 PM
What I'm more concerned about is how they've handled (or will handle, tense depends on you) Leorio's perverted choice for Episode 11. I mean, he groped that girl right? Would it be hinted at?

Divinenega
December 05, 2011, 07:42 PM
What I'm more concerned about is how they've handled (or will handle, tense depends on you) Leorio's perverted choice for Episode 11. I mean, he groped that girl right? Would it be hinted at?

That should stay the same I;m pretty sure. Fairy tail is meant for kids and they do that sort of thing all the time, not to mention One Piece does sometimes.

mrsticky005
December 06, 2011, 01:19 AM
I'm 95% sure the heart scene will be shown. The first anime only showed Hisoka carrying Geretta's hat so I'm not sure how the scene will be handled in the new anime, but it definitely would be cool if it's shown with Hisoka carrying his head :^_^

The hat thing doesn't really work because one can just think Geretta gave up his hat. The only reason not to think so is that it's Hisoka.


What I'm more concerned about is how they've handled (or will handle, tense depends on you) Leorio's perverted choice for Episode 11. I mean, he groped that girl right? Would it be hinted at?

I don't think the manga shows anything. It's just all implied.

hunted
December 06, 2011, 08:18 AM
i wander if the animators came to the ants arc
are they going to do the same thing like hiskoa killing that guard
by using shadows ...!!!?
if they do it the whole anime will be shadow ...:D

Popo
December 07, 2011, 01:01 AM
There isn't too much different between versions. Episode 10 covers chapters 19 and 15 pages of 20. It corresponds to the last few minutes of episode 14 and all of episode 15 in the 1999 series. Episode 15 has fantastic art and decent animation in the Nippon Animation version.

To begin, Leroute isn't the one who gets into the gambling match with Leorio. Despite being jailed for trafficking endangered species and illegal gambling, Bendot takes over for Leroute in the 1999 series. There's no real reason--at first I thought it was in order to mask Leroute's voice, but you hear it in episode 15 before the robes are discarded.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani3.jpg

Though this doesn't make an appearance until the latter half of episode 15 in the original series, you see it right as Leroute appears in the manga and 2011 series. Leroute, while bending over to check Majitani, drops a note. This can be seen in both the 2011 series and the manga. Since Bendot takes over, the 1999 series has it so every prisoner can talk to Majitani via his earpiece being a radio device and a transmitter being in their handcuffs. Sedokan somehow made it in prison.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote3.jpg

It's pretty funny how nonchalantly Killua talks about death. He and Gon have slightly changed lines in this version. In the manga and 2011 series, Killua says that Kurapika should try not to be too selfish (without seemingly holding anything against him). In the 1999 series, Killua directly calls Kurapika "self-absorbed."
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk3.jpg

I've mentioned that I don't like Gon's characterization in episode 14--this is no different. He comes across as too childish. Instead of agreeing with Killua and Kurapika, pointing out the fact that Majitani was on the verge of surrender, the 1999 incarnation of Gon only takes away that Kurapika doesn't want to kill Majitani because he's not one of the Phantom Troupe. He isn't very observant. This comes into play in a later scene.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint3.jpg

So Leorio gets mad that no one is taking him seriously and starts sulking. Tonpa does his inner monologue about the trap of their path. As we're still in episode 14, Gon's characterization is still screwed up. He doesn't allow Leorio to be by himself. For some reason, in the 1999 series after Leorio tells Gon to leave him alone, Gon invades Leorio's personal space and starts stretching right next to him...just because. Tonpa suddenly loses forty pounds in the manga.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk3.jpg

Togari (his name in the Madhouse version) shows up. I mentioned in my comparison for episode 7 that the fighting styles in the Nippon Animation version are somewhat different from the manga's. In the Nippon Animation version, Togari spins his knives like a frisbee. He twirls them with his hands in the manga and 2011 series. Also, he only throws his blades like chakram in the 1999 series, whereas in the other versions he is simultaneously a close range and long range fighter. He employs a hit-and-run strategy.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu3.jpg

This scene is so cool in the Madhouse version. Nicely done. For what it's worth, this is the first time that viewers see blood in the Nippon Animation version. Though Hisoka only gets cut in one place instead of two, like the other versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut3.jpg

Hisoka's awesome. But we already knew that.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin3.jpg

Togari's death is different between versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies3.jpg
He gets decapitated in the manga and 2011 series. The Nippon Animation version implies that he does at first, but that red bar that covers half the screen isn't blood--it's censorship. After that scene, we find Togari presumably dead on the ground. But he's woundless. Hisoka covers up his scar immediately, so perhaps he sliced Togari's neck and covered it up for some reason.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariUh.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisoCover.jpg

By the way, Hisoka finishes the Trick tower in different amounts of time. In the manga and 2011 series, 6 hours and 17 minutes. He takes 12 hours in the 1999 series.

So there's another difference in characterization with Gon, though not nearly as annoying as the prior ones. In the 2011 series and manga, Gon is the first to realize that Majitani might be dead and points it out to Killua. In the 1999 series, Killua notices and Gon is the one who is surprised.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes3.jpg

The rest of the episode is mostly the same, with Bendot switched in for Leroute. Leorio actually drops Majitani in this version, despite not doing it in the original.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes3.jpg

Though the 1999 series sees the ending of the episode as an opportunity to ship Kurapika and Leorio. Leorio's teammates are silent in the manga/2011 series. Quote:

"Kurapika. I've dealt with the aftermath of your pride."
"Leorio...<3"
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/KuraLeoShip.jpg

Next week should be special.

Netero
December 07, 2011, 01:44 AM
There isn't too much different between versions. Episode 10 covers chapters 19 and 15 pages of 20. It corresponds to the last few minutes of episode 14 and all of episode 15 in the 1999 series. Episode 15 has fantastic art and decent animation in the Nippon Animation version.

To begin, Leroute isn't the one who gets into the gambling match with Leorio. Despite being jailed for trafficking endangered species and illegal gambling, Bendot takes over for Leroute in the 1999 series. There's no real reason--at first I thought it was in order to mask Leroute's voice, but you hear it in episode 15 before the robes are discarded.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LerouteMajitani3.jpg

Though this doesn't make an appearance until the latter half of episode 15 in the original series, you see it right as Leroute appears in the manga and 2011 series. Leroute, while bending over to check Majitani, drops a note. This can be seen in both the 2011 series and the manga. Since Bendot takes over, the 1999 series has it so every prisoner can talk to Majitani via his earpiece being a radio device and a transmitter being in their handcuffs. Sedokan somehow made it in prison.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniNote3.jpg

It's pretty funny how nonchalantly Killua talks about death. He and Gon have slightly changed lines in this version. In the manga and 2011 series, Killua says that Kurapika should try not to be too selfish (without seemingly holding anything against him). In the 1999 series, Killua directly calls Kurapika "self-absorbed."
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/NonchalantTalk3.jpg

I've mentioned that I don't like Gon's characterization in episode 14--this is no different. He comes across as too childish. Instead of agreeing with Killua and Kurapika, pointing out the fact that Majitani was on the verge of surrender, the 1999 incarnation of Gon only takes away that Kurapika doesn't want to kill Majitani because he's not one of the Phantom Troupe. He isn't very observant. This comes into play in a later scene.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonPoint3.jpg

So Leorio gets mad that no one is taking him seriously and starts sulking. Tonpa does his inner monologue about the trap of their path. As we're still in episode 14, Gon's characterization is still screwed up. He doesn't allow Leorio to be by himself. For some reason, in the 1999 series after Leorio tells Gon to leave him alone, Gon invades Leorio's personal space and starts stretching right next to him...just because. Tonpa suddenly loses forty pounds in the manga.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioSulk3.jpg

Togari (his name in the Madhouse version) shows up. I mentioned in my comparison for episode 7 that the fighting styles in the Nippon Animation version are somewhat different from the manga's. In the Nippon Animation version, Togari spins his knives like a frisbee. He twirls them with his hands in the manga and 2011 series. Also, he only throws his blades like chakram in the 1999 series, whereas in the other versions he is simultaneously a close range and long range fighter. He employs a hit-and-run strategy.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariSpin3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/Yontouryuu3.jpg

This scene is so cool in the Madhouse version. Nicely done. For what it's worth, this is the first time that viewers see blood in the Nippon Animation version. Though Hisoka only gets cut in one place instead of two, like the other versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaDodge3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCut3.jpg

Hisoka's awesome. But we already knew that.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaCatch3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisokaGrin3.jpg

Togari's death is different between versions.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariDies3.jpg
He gets decapitated in the manga and 2011 series. The Nippon Animation version implies that he does at first, but that red bar that covers half the screen isn't blood--it's censorship. After that scene, we find Togari presumably dead on the ground. But he's woundless. Hisoka covers up his scar immediately, so perhaps he sliced Togari's neck and covered it up for some reason.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/TogariUh.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/HisoCover.jpg

So there's another difference in characterization with Gon, though not nearly as annoying as the prior ones. In the 2011 series and manga, Gon is the first to realize that Majitani might be dead and points it out to Killua. In the 1999 series, Killua notices and Gon is the one who is surprised.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/GonRealizes3.jpg

The rest of the episode is mostly the same, with Bendot switched in for Leroute. Leorio actually drops Majitani in this version, despite not doing it in the original.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/LeorioDrop3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/Hunter%20x%20Hunter%2010/MajitaniAwakes3.jpg

Next week should be special.

Thanks! Popo/Toto for another great comparison :)

Uriel
December 07, 2011, 08:00 AM
As always, it's awesome to have your review! Makes me feel that I'm not this crazy for liking the new series xD

MegamanX195
December 07, 2011, 01:37 PM
I've been lurking at the HxH board over here for a while now... I think the new anime is pretty good, even better than the old one.

One observation: Leorio has glasses in new anime in the Tower, while he uses no glasses in the manga and 1999 series.

shareme
December 09, 2011, 12:52 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvoyuvWGhl1qkblq0o1_500.gif
Hisoka likes it.

I know.




Another pic of his flexibility:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvp2diirXd1qe95joo1_r1_500.gif

This is why I ship him as an uke. He would look very delicious under Illumi :D

Netero
December 11, 2011, 12:32 AM
Pretty good episode. The only thing i'm disappointed about is that Killua didn't crush the heart in hands. But it was handled well for it's time slot, and i'm happy they showed a good chunk of blood in this episode.

Salce
December 11, 2011, 12:55 AM
I'm not very picky about censorship.
Who cares about a little less blood.

But in this episode, the censorship bothered me a little because Killua's attitude was softened. Returning the heart instead of exploiting him, made the character more comical and less aggressive.

shareme
December 11, 2011, 05:06 AM
I like how Madhouse done the heart ripping part on this version.

During the Killua/Johness scene, I don't know why but I got chills and can't seem to take my eyes off what's happening. This episode makes me question how safe Killua is around the guys... like the way Kurapika thought after Killua explained his "technique".

In the old version, it was quick. One minute, Johness have a heart, the next Killua was crushing said heart in his hand. The old series build up Johness notoriety and how bad it is to fight him. The new series focuses more on Killua and what it means to be a professional child assassin.

Nippon version was brutal and to the point (like the manga). This version was more creepy and cruel and when Killua gave back the heart nonchalantly, it's like a light bulb that switched on. Killua and Hisoka are not so different after all. They both inhabit a world far different than Gon/Kurapika/Leorio live in.

ps. I laughed out loud when "angel" Leorio appeared. This episode also shows how Gon, despite being naive on worldly things, is quite clever and thinks on his feet and never panics. Him advising Leorio to make a bet if he's a teenager or not is pretty good.

Goral
December 11, 2011, 07:11 AM
Old anime handled this way better, not only the hart was shown, also Killua crushing it with a smile on his face too. In this version Killua is a saint compared to the old. Another proof old anime >> new anime.

Old anime: http://t.imgbox.com/aaaD79qU.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaaD79qU) http://t.imgbox.com/aaazSUx8.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaazSUx8) http://t.imgbox.com/aaa4IS1x.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaa4IS1x)
New anime: http://t.imgbox.com/aaaqNh6p.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaaqNh6p) http://t.imgbox.com/aaa12DuT.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaa12DuT) http://t.imgbox.com/aaamvuoB.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aaamvuoB)

Ustegius
December 11, 2011, 08:07 AM
I just now realized it was piece of the dudes shirt in which the heart was. I just thought that what an weird heart that was... :fail

Well, I liked more the way it was done in the manga/first anime, but I think their solution was pretty good too, considering the slot and target audience. But if this is how they gonna do the gory bits... Ant Arc... I dunno.

MegamanX195
December 11, 2011, 08:35 AM
I loved that it wasn't fast like the old anime, they took their time making him suffer, and overall focused on Killua more.

And @ Goral, we know you like the old anime better, but you should at least acknowledge the undisputably good points of the anime once in a while, you know? Not saying that it's necessarily the case with this episode, but there were plenty of parts where the new anime did better than the old one and you said nothing about it.

Divinenega
December 11, 2011, 08:36 AM
Fun episode. Leorio's scenes were hilarious. Woulda sucked for him if she was a man though...

Was kinda disappointed Killua didn;t crush the heart like in the manga and the old series, but this was still pretty brutal(and in a way creppier). Plus even with the shadow censored decapitation last week it was a toss-up as to whether or not they'd keep the scene in tact. I think they got the message across pretty well for the show's timeslot.

Still plenty of complainers though. I guess some people don;t realize the amount of gore they want kept in the new anime would require it having a late nite time slot (and by extension a 26 episode count).

Uriel
December 11, 2011, 10:38 AM
I also think the old anime was better with the heart crushing, but I fail to see how this is less violent. Those who are afraid of how Ant Arc will be, I wouldn't be at all. At this point I understand that they're not suppressing the violence of it they're just trying to reduce the gore. Doesn't annoy me that much, but I guess that they'll tone up when we reach Chimera.

Killua was already making Kanmuru O_O
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw17d9PHqA1qe95joo1_500.gif
http://i.imgur.com/jjkry.gif

...And He even had time to packed it with the robes He ripped as well. Totally prepared to sale in malls :D
http://i.imgur.com/x51oP.gif

http://i.imgur.com/5Tepy.gif
...Here, take your shitty bag.

mrsticky005
December 11, 2011, 12:41 PM
Hm. I was actually disappointed with this episode. The heart in the "bag" is fine. But they should have had Killua crush it.
They could have done it without actually showing any blood. We don't even get Killua's evil grin even though they
were clearly trying to make it seem as if Killua is the future version of Hisoka or something.

Too much was changed in this episode. :(


Hope against hope the time slot is changed.

hunted
December 11, 2011, 01:50 PM
[QUOTE=Uriel;2699687]
[QUOTE]

lol i like your sense of humor in bad situations ...
but realy where they will get alot of blankets to handle ants arc

Crude
December 11, 2011, 03:34 PM
For a show that airs pretty early the heart scene was still very violent. Sure Killua didn't crush the heart, but I thought giving it back to Johness was pretty creepy. The way Killua was like "What's that? You want your heart back? Here you go." And the fact that the scene was slow made it all the more creepy/disturbing.

Refraction
December 11, 2011, 04:16 PM
While I am resoundingly in favour of the old anime in virtually every conceivable regard, the heart removal scene in this episode--taken purely in isolation--is something I prefer in this new adaptation. There's something subtle about it--and something very, very clever.

The removal of music is sufficient to bestow the scene with some gravitas on its own, but it was having Killua wrap the heart up in the cloth and have the screen play perform simply to the sound of the heart beat that was so achingly clever; and it's all down to what it does for the imagination.

Hiding the heart from view is necessary for the time-slot--and I won't pretend that what's happened here is anything other than a response to that--but it's how this anime takes that restriction and uses it to its advantage to evoke something sinister that I find staggering.

After Killua does his work, when you hear the heart beat sound start up when the screen dashes to Joness's profile, your imagination gets to work. You start to think: "Did Killua just...?" And then the screen turns to Killua, who doesn't flagrantly show the thing off to reach an immediate climax; he lets the thing pump away, hidden so weakly from view, in blood-soaked bit of cloth. The sight of the heart itself couldn't be more close--but you never get that catharsis...you never get that immediate shock--and this makes the scene that bit more disturbing. You never quite get to see the full extent of the horror.

If Killua had revealed the heart from the outset, that would have necessarily been the climax to a crescendo of tension. There's no way, I believe, that you can maintain a sense of unease when a pulsing human heart is in full view. The full extent of the deed would be in full view, and there would be nothing more to say about it: the shock is there, and that's that. It is because Killua leaves it up to your imagination to imagine the gore oozing inside that bit of cloth that the sight is horrific. As a result of the cloth being blood-soaked--nothing more than a paltry curtain--the heart is never more than a thin veil away from a terrible sight: it's achingly close. Having Killua go through the trouble of tying it up in a knot, suggesting continued tampering with a functioning human organ, makes the interference on his part feel disturbingly gratuitous. He doesn't outright show Joness why he's suddenly feeling cold, he lets the realisation slowly dawn upon him...but it's never actually confirmed. We all know it, but we're never quite get that closure. We're still left in palpable anticipation. Killua invites your imagination to consider the worst--to consider just how ugly the thing looks, and continue to gather suspense for the impending sight of it. The disquieting crescendo can keep building--and that makes the scene very affecting.

But there is no climax. You get close to it, but you never quite see it. All the while, Killua just holds that pulsing bag in his hand--a symbol representing an impending horror. Worse than actually finding a zombie in Resident Evil, for example, is the knowledge that you're about to find a zombie behind a door--and it's that tension before you encounter something you're not sure you're prepared for that makes your stomach turn. Like getting a vaccination, it's the wait that kills you; the process is brief and lacks impact. The effect is emulated here; having the heart wrapped in the bag represents that door or that wait--it's the difference between the tension being released and the sickening sense of tension being maintained. The fact that Killua never crushes the heart leaves its horror in tact....because it's still there. You can't get that climax to release the tension. He places it back in Joness's fingers and its relative horror never subsides, because that climax--the full reveal of the heart--is never satisfied. It's still there, so close but so far away, the quietude of the scene only augmenting the unchanging sentiment of tension--a sense of tension that, even when the electronic counter changes to '3', never goes away.

For something born out of need to meet the demands of an early-morning time-slot, I think that's absolutely genius.

Kiba
December 11, 2011, 04:43 PM
this is new hunter x hunter is just a big fail
the old it can never for me the old hunter x hunter

Popo
December 11, 2011, 06:15 PM
While I am resoundingly in favour of the old anime in virtually every conceivable regard, the heart removal scene in this episode--taken purely in isolation--is something I prefer in this new adaptation. There's something subtle about it--and something very, very clever.

The removal of music is sufficient to bestow the scene with some gravitas on its own, but it was having Killua wrap the heart up in the cloth and have the screen play perform simply to the sound of the heart beat that was so achingly clever; and it's all down to what it does for the imagination.

Hiding the heart from view is necessary for the time-slot--and I won't pretend that what's happened here is anything other than a response to that--but it's how this anime takes that restriction and uses it to its advantage to evoke something sinister that I find staggering.

After Killua does his work, when you hear the heart beat sound start up when the screen dashes to Joness's profile, your imagination gets to work. You start to think: "Did Killua just...?" And then the screen turns to Killua, who doesn't flagrantly show the thing off to reach an immediate climax; he lets the thing pump away, hidden so weakly from view, in blood-soaked bit of cloth. The sight of the heart itself couldn't be more close--but you never get that catharsis...you never get that immediate shock--and this makes the scene that bit more disturbing. You never quite get to see the full extent of the horror.

If Killua had revealed the heart from the outset, that would have necessarily been the climax to a crescendo of tension. There's no way, I believe, that you can maintain a sense of unease when a pulsing human heart is in full view. The full extent of the deed would be in full view, and there would be nothing more to say about it: the shock is there, and that's that. It is because Killua leaves it up to your imagination to imagine the gore oozing inside that bit of cloth that the sight is horrific. As a result of the cloth being blood-soaked--nothing more than a paltry curtain--the heart is never more than a thin veil away from a terrible sight: it's achingly close. Having Killua go through the trouble of tying it up in a knot, suggesting continued tampering with a functioning human organ, makes the interference on his part feel disturbingly gratuitous. He doesn't outright show Joness why he's suddenly feeling cold, he lets the realisation slowly dawn upon him...but it's never actually confirmed. We all know it, but we're never quite get that closure. We're still left in palpable anticipation. Killua invites your imagination to consider the worst--to consider just how ugly the thing looks, and continue to gather suspense for the impending sight of it. The disquieting crescendo can keep building--and that makes the scene very affecting.

But there is no climax. You get close to it, but you never quite see it. All the while, Killua just holds that pulsing bag in his hand--a symbol representing an impending horror. Worse than actually finding a zombie in Resident Evil, for example, is the knowledge that you're about to find a zombie behind a door--and it's that tension before you encounter something you're not sure you're prepared for that makes your stomach turn. Like getting a vaccination, it's the wait that kills you; the process is brief and lacks impact. The effect is emulated here; having the heart wrapped in the bag represents that door or that wait--it's the difference between the tension being released and the sickening sense of tension being maintained. The fact that Killua never crushes the heart leaves its horror in tact....because it's still there. You can't get that climax to release the tension. He places it back in Joness's fingers and its relative horror never subsides, because that climax--the full reveal of the heart--is never satisfied. It's still there, so close but so far away, the quietude of the scene only augmenting the unchanging sentiment of tension--a sense of tension that, even when the electronic counter changes to '3', never goes away.

For something born out of need to meet the demands of an early-morning time-slot, I think that's absolutely genius.
Fully agreed. I enjoyed reading this.

Uriel
December 11, 2011, 07:06 PM
Ana amazing post, indeed. Changed my mind completely about that scene, If I have to be fully honest.

mrsticky005
December 13, 2011, 12:27 AM
For a show that airs pretty early the heart scene was still very violent. Sure Killua didn't crush the heart, but I thought giving it back to Johness was pretty creepy. The way Killua was like "What's that? You want your heart back? Here you go." And the fact that the scene was slow made it all the more creepy/disturbing.

My problem with the scene ISN'T that it wasn't violent enough. No matter how you slice it, Killua violently ripped out Johness heart from his chest. That there is less gore than the manga does little to change that.

The problem I have is removing the crushing. Again with the addition of the bag this could be done easily.

Here's how

1. Show the bag beating so people know there's a heart in there (blood isn't actually necessary but it was a nice touch)

This was done right and was a clever censoring move.

2. Have Killua squeeze the bag with his hands. No blood needs to be shown as the heart is inside the bag and even if
the blood would in reality get out of the bag nobody said anime needs to be realistic

This should have been done and wasn't

3. Have the bag make some really gross squish/crunch sound.


Though in of itself the returning the heart is not a bad scene. I just think it could have been done better even with censoring.

---------- Post added at 10:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 PM ----------


While I am resoundingly in favour of the old anime in virtually every conceivable regard, the heart removal scene in this episode--taken purely in isolation--is something I prefer in this new adaptation. There's something subtle about it--and something very, very clever.

The removal of music is sufficient to bestow the scene with some gravitas on its own, but it was having Killua wrap the heart up in the cloth and have the screen play perform simply to the sound of the heart beat that was so achingly clever; and it's all down to what it does for the imagination.

Hiding the heart from view is necessary for the time-slot--and I won't pretend that what's happened here is anything other than a response to that--but it's how this anime takes that restriction and uses it to its advantage to evoke something sinister that I find staggering.

After Killua does his work, when you hear the heart beat sound start up when the screen dashes to Joness's profile, your imagination gets to work. You start to think: "Did Killua just...?" And then the screen turns to Killua, who doesn't flagrantly show the thing off to reach an immediate climax; he lets the thing pump away, hidden so weakly from view, in blood-soaked bit of cloth. The sight of the heart itself couldn't be more close--but you never get that catharsis...you never get that immediate shock--and this makes the scene that bit more disturbing. You never quite get to see the full extent of the horror.

If Killua had revealed the heart from the outset, that would have necessarily been the climax to a crescendo of tension. There's no way, I believe, that you can maintain a sense of unease when a pulsing human heart is in full view. The full extent of the deed would be in full view, and there would be nothing more to say about it: the shock is there, and that's that. It is because Killua leaves it up to your imagination to imagine the gore oozing inside that bit of cloth that the sight is horrific. As a result of the cloth being blood-soaked--nothing more than a paltry curtain--the heart is never more than a thin veil away from a terrible sight: it's achingly close. Having Killua go through the trouble of tying it up in a knot, suggesting continued tampering with a functioning human organ, makes the interference on his part feel disturbingly gratuitous. He doesn't outright show Joness why he's suddenly feeling cold, he lets the realisation slowly dawn upon him...but it's never actually confirmed. We all know it, but we're never quite get that closure. We're still left in palpable anticipation. Killua invites your imagination to consider the worst--to consider just how ugly the thing looks, and continue to gather suspense for the impending sight of it. The disquieting crescendo can keep building--and that makes the scene very affecting.

But there is no climax. You get close to it, but you never quite see it. All the while, Killua just holds that pulsing bag in his hand--a symbol representing an impending horror. Worse than actually finding a zombie in Resident Evil, for example, is the knowledge that you're about to find a zombie behind a door--and it's that tension before you encounter something you're not sure you're prepared for that makes your stomach turn. Like getting a vaccination, it's the wait that kills you; the process is brief and lacks impact. The effect is emulated here; having the heart wrapped in the bag represents that door or that wait--it's the difference between the tension being released and the sickening sense of tension being maintained. The fact that Killua never crushes the heart leaves its horror in tact....because it's still there. You can't get that climax to release the tension. He places it back in Joness's fingers and its relative horror never subsides, because that climax--the full reveal of the heart--is never satisfied. It's still there, so close but so far away, the quietude of the scene only augmenting the unchanging sentiment of tension--a sense of tension that, even when the electronic counter changes to '3', never goes away.

For something born out of need to meet the demands of an early-morning time-slot, I think that's absolutely genius.

That's an interesting take. I guess if I hadn't seen the alternate versions I'd be able to appreciate it more.

Though what I liked about the original wasn't so much the violence or creepiness (which are good) but the trolling.
Yes returning the heart is trolling. But I still say the manga and original anime did it best. Killua smiles mischievously
and even though it's quite apparent that Jonas is a dead man walking Killua literally crushes any hope Jonas had then.

Plus it was as if Killua was saying "your life is in my hands" then when Killua crushes the heart while
making sure Jonas sees him do it and Jonas dies at that moment and Killua is just so darn
satisfied with himself it's just a major troll.

---------- Post added at 11:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 PM ----------

Something to take note of.

While the original anime is more violent (though not nearly as much as some people would
make it out to be. The original anime still pales in comparison to the violence of the manga.)
there is a good reason why it is more violent.

This 2011 anime is being shown at 10:55 am on Sundays if I'm not mistaken.

The 1999 anime however was shown at 6:30pm on Saturdays.

Uriel
December 13, 2011, 01:12 AM
At a different time with different rules, though. Since 1999 there was so many changes in the nippon TV. And thank god, honestly, because it was way too much.

Not due nothing it's the country with more suicides xD

Host Samurai
December 13, 2011, 05:45 AM
I did enjoy the first part of the episode and that's it. The second part on the other hand is something that I'd consider filler. I agree with mrsticky: Why did they leave out the crushing the heart scene? IMO that wasn't in accordance with Killua's character at all, since when is he obedient?

And to make things worse we're about to have a filler episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXuSPLEXDQ) next week. I really don't understand the direction that they're taking....

TemplateR
December 13, 2011, 07:02 AM
And to make things worse we're about to have a filler episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXuSPLEXDQ) next week. I really don't understand the direction that they're taking....

Seems to me as a normal episode isntead of a Filler.

Popo
December 13, 2011, 12:45 PM
I did enjoy the first part of the episode and that's it. The second part on the other hand is something that I'd consider filler. I agree with mrsticky: Why did they leave out the crushing the heart scene? IMO that wasn't in accordance with Killua's character at all, since when is he obedient?
Killua didn't return the heart out of a desire to be obedient--it was in order to mock Johness. It have been futile for Killua to return Johness' heart while the man was still alive because he would have died regardless. It's a stupid thing for Johness to ask for in the first place, and it's highlighted by the fact that Killua only decides to indulge the request after the man dies. It's an indelibly cruel thing to do to someone.

I think that the 1999 series succeeded in using the scene to make Killua look like a badass, but the 2011 series makes him seem cruel. The difference is in how the other characters react to Killua's action, which is also important to take into account. Everyone sort of brushes it off in the 1999 series, but it's clear from the 2011 series that Gon and Killua are moral outliers. The fact that they could go straight from a bloody murder to playing games is supposed to be disturbing.

Despite half of next episode likely being a filler, I'm glad that it's taking place during the 50 hours when they're in the room. That's two days worth of character interactions that aren't present in the manga or 1999 series. It'll be interesting to see the protagonists' emotional states after their battles with the convicts.

Netero
December 13, 2011, 03:29 PM
I'm expecting the first 5 minutes or so of next weeks episode to be filler, but I highly doubt it will be an entire filler episode.

Uriel
December 13, 2011, 03:58 PM
Well, after all Gon is not all about light. I think they're portraying them in the new series as they're leading to in the latest arcs. Not particularly giving the heart, but overall so far. Not a goody-good or bad-killer but instead a middle creepy zone.

mrsticky005
December 14, 2011, 01:25 AM
Killua didn't return the heart out of a desire to be obedient--it was in order to mock Johness. It have been futile for Killua to return Johness' heart while the man was still alive because he would have died regardless. It's a stupid thing for Johness to ask for in the first place, and it's highlighted by the fact that Killua only decides to indulge the request after the man dies. It's an indelibly cruel thing to do to someone.

I think that the 1999 series succeeded in using the scene to make Killua look like a badass, but the 2011 series makes him seem cruel. The difference is in how the other characters react to Killua's action, which is also important to take into account. Everyone sort of brushes it off in the 1999 series, but it's clear from the 2011 series that Gon and Killua are moral outliers. The fact that they could go straight from a bloody murder to playing games is supposed to be disturbing.

Despite half of next episode likely being a filler, I'm glad that it's taking place during the 50 hours when they're in the room. That's two days worth of character interactions that aren't present in the manga or 1999 series. It'll be interesting to see the protagonists' emotional states after their battles with the convicts.


Yeah at first I was like huh they're pretty ending the episode with them playing games?

Then I was like...wait they are playing games after Killua just ripped out the dude's heart. As if nothing happened.


Also the next episode may have filler in it but part of the preview is from the manga. For instance when Leorio yells and
his head turns big that's when he gets upset after running around in circles trying to find their way down the tower.


Even if it is a filler it could still be a good episode. We could get more character interaction/development plus
they could add in more obstacles in trick tower that manga only implies but doesn't show.

To be honest I think the manga did that too much. It was like all this cool stuff happened. But we're not going to show it.

I just don't want a filler that is "let's see how long we can stretch this out." type deal

TemplateR
December 14, 2011, 05:03 AM
I'm expecting the first 5 minutes or so of next weeks episode to be filler, but I highly doubt it will be an entire filler episode.



In the preview they show Gon and his friends are not only sleeping, they are also meet (??) the rest of the participants. I think it will be only 5 minutes or so as filler.

Uriel
December 14, 2011, 08:28 AM
Meh, probably some background checking but I'm sure that is only 5min and then we see how this test ends.

Popo
December 15, 2011, 09:19 PM
Sorry that this is late--finals season. Anyways, here's the comparison. Get ready for a long one, despite the episodes being so similar to each other.

This episode covers the last 5 pages of chapter 19 through chapter 21 of the manga, and corresponds to episode 17 of the 1999 series.

First things first--Leroute appears.
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Convicted of illegal gambling and the trafficking of endangered species, she doesn't exactly look the part of convict (which is why she chooses a gambling match to begin with...). Nippon Animation wanted a battle between two doctors, so Leroute is an "insane psychologist" in the 1999 series, whose pretty face drove men to suicide. While I don't really have a problem with this, I didn't really like the stance the writers took when adapting her in the 1999 series; it's somewhat misogynistic. The 1999 series turns her into a generic heartbreaker and definitely has something against her personality type. Killua and Kurapika, in two instances, call her a "no-good woman" and "a snake of a woman" despite those never being in the manga. I digress.

So Leorio pervs the hell out. Gon doesn't get at first how Kurapika and Killua realize that Leorio is going to bet that Leroute is a man, but Killua tells him in the manga and 2011 series. In the 1999 series, Gon is left as naive as ever. Kurapika explains the situation to Gon and he still doesn't understand why Kurapika and Killua know. Tonpa covers his eyes when Leroute and Leorio "do their thing."
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You're so gross, Leorio. I can't believe this version has him keep sniffing his hand after. lol
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The series diverge from here. In the 1999 series, Leroute psychologically attacks Leorio. Kurapika calls her an expert at psychological warfare, but I'm not sure that Leroute employs actual psychology in her scene. Leroute calls him "doctor" all of the time--nice touch, especially since she is one in this version.

Leorio falls right into Leroute's trap in the 1999 series. Gon hits him with his fishing rod and Leorio just manages to forget everything attacking his personality that Leroute stated a minute ago. Just in time for rock-paper-scissors.
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New series puts more emphasis on the rock-paper-scissors scene by showing Kurapika/Gon/Killua's reactions to it, plus elaborates on the depth in the game. Leroute does it in the manga. I recommend reading up on it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors)--Togashi uses HxH to introduce a lot of interesting theories and logic games that most manga would sidestep. The 1999 series does this too, only it's less comprehensive. The 1999 series is wrong in saying that people tend to throw scissors first--rookies tend to throw rock first.

Leroute bets all of her time instead of 80 hours in the 1999 series. She lies to Leorio about being able to read minds in a bluff in the 2011 series.
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Here's something interesting: Gon directly tells Leorio to throw scissors in both animated versions and not the manga, but the implications are different. Gon in the 1999 series tells Leorio to throw scissors because Leroute says "[she's] going to throw paper next"--it's much more a simplistic deduction, since Gon's rationale is that "Scissors beat paper every time." Gon in the 2011 series tells Leorio to do so because he's gone a step ahead of Leroute and knows she assumes Leorio is going to throw Rock or Paper. Mainly because she's done such a good job of manipulating Leorio's emotions throughout the match. Basically, Gon in the 1999 series is naive while Gon in the 2011 series is observant.
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Leorio loses, Leroute wins. Whatta pro. Here's a mistake in the manga: the scoreboard behind Leorio says "10" instead of "100."
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The prisoners are in direct contact with Lippo in the manga and 2011 series, whereas they don't really speak with him in the 1999 series. They ask Lippo how much time the protagonists have left on their clock in the manga/2011 series. Gon asks Kurapika in the 1999 series.
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Here's what you've been waiting for: Johness. His large, eerie eyes have been fixed in this version.
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Lippo is excited to use Johness in the 1999 series, while reluctant in the 2011 series. The manga doesn't show his reaction. Lippo is more of a sadist in the 1999 series, though I feel that might be more in line with what we've seen of his character.

Though this next scene isn't in the manga, I loved it. The buildup to Johness as a scary condender is very well done in the Madhouse series. The trembling piano track, the fact that Johness has been silently sitting crosslegged in the back since the prisoners first appeared (nice touch), the visible fear in all of the inmates' eyes and their stances.
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Some say that Majitani going after Johness is out of character, but I think that it kind of works? Majitani isn't a great judge of strength, as proven by his match with Kurapika. He doesn't believe in legends, as evidenced by the amateurish and galling way he attempted to mimic the world's most notorious criminals (the Phantom Troupe).

Also, on a side note, this scene also made me think the DVDs might be somewhat decensored. When Majitani is slammed into the wall, his eyes are closed. The next frame, however, has his right eye wide open (in the background) and his body twitching. Look for it, but don't get your hopes up either.

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The scene focusing on Johness' arrest is removed in the 2011 series; it's present in the 1999 series. While being arrested, he rips off a portion of the cop's arm who cuffed him. Both versions neglect to mention that he pulled the heart out of a still-living eleven-year-old boy--a shame, since it marks a bit of poetic justice (due to what's about to happen next).
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Johness has apparently murdered the captain of the USS Enterprise in the 1999 series.
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The 1999 series moves Johness' line "It's been so long since...I've felt the flesh of the world" until after he's already in the ring with Killua. A shame--I thought that this scene was really creepy in the manga. It's in the 2011 series, but I don't like how quickly the line is enunciated.
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Now the next scene has been pretty controversial for a number of reasons. I'll try to be as fair as possible when discussing it. While the action was censored, I think it did a fantastic job conveying the tone and spirit of the scene.

Killua plucks Johness' heart out.
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The most obvious differences are Johness' heart being wrapped in his shirt cloth and Killua not crushing it in the 2011 series. I feel like the direction of all three versions implies a different tone. So I'll talk about each in detail:

1999 series: Almost exactly like the manga's scene. Shocking and explicit. This version emphasized Killua being a badass. The way he speaks in the 1999 series and the way he's almost always drawn suggest this to begin with--since he never kills anyone in episodes 11/12, he backs it up here. The way the scene is shot (especially the way the music cuts off right as he moves past Johness) assist in this. Though you see Johness' heart in detail, it's entirely bloodless. Even the wound on Johness' shirt is colored in black (and there's no hole either). This is a little problematic, since Killua mentions afterward that his dad could do it without leaving a drop of blood--that's kind of what happened here.

2011 series: Different. Johness' bloody heart is removed, but censored by being torn out alongside some of his shirt. But the horror of what Killua has done is emphasized here. The episode went from jovial and somewhat funny to brutal in that one action. As far as logistics goes (from what I've heard from a couple of others), yes, a heart can be removed from a hole that small. And yes, they do keep beating outside of the body. Johness turns feeble and pathetic. Look at the way he reaches for his own heart and crawls towards it, asking for it back as if that would be his salvation. This is a man set to die. The fact that Killua waits for Johness to die before actually returning it is even more grim. It's dark in a way the 1999 series wasn't. The music that plays afterwards sounds like something out of Shadow Star Narutaru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Star), another series that alternates between cute and horrific (you should probably read the manga of this, if you're interested--fantastic). I loved this scene so much.

As far as Johness' shirt tearing goes, picture it matted down by blood deep inside of his chest cavity. Yeah.

Manga: The sequence of events is a bit different in it. You know how the story goes, but we don't see Killua's expression until after Johness asks for his heart back already. I feel like the 1999 series somewhat messed up by not doing this--look at that wicked smile on his face. It turns into Killua's typical smile as soon as he crushes the heart on the next page. He's playing with a man's life. He cruelly crushes it with a child's grin. Children are capable of doing terrible things, which you'll see throughout the series.
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The following scenes in the new series were handled better in my opinion too. Gon's nonchalance is something you should take notice of. He doesn't care that he just saw Killua pull out another man's heart. Gon mentions this so casually it's sort of ridiculous: "Oh yeah, you guys don't know yet. The thing about Killua, he's part of a family of elite assassins." He's twelve. Comes from the middle of nowhere, and he mentions death so casually. Keep this in mind.
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The 1999 series has Killua explain his actions while they're still in that arena. The manga and 2011 series have him wait until they reach the break room. Killua's nails retract like a cat's in the manga (as indicated by sfx, anyway) and 2011 series. In the 1999 series, he adjusts his hand in a more muscular manner. Kurapika's wary line about Killua is glossed over in the 1999 series with a smile. It's more emphasized in the 2011 series and manga, as it's at the end of the chapter.
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Anyways, that's about it. Phew!

Uriel
December 15, 2011, 10:36 PM
Excellent review, as always. I would link Refraction post to make a bigger insight of the new heart-removal scene, but you explained it wonderfully.

I also did not realize all the differences in the Leruto-Leorio match since all my attention went to Killua :P I also believe the designs are way more closer to the manga now that I compare Leruto as well. Missed how playful She looked.

shareme
December 16, 2011, 12:09 AM
If you all don't mind, I would like to post my thoughts on this episode as well. This was actually posted last Dec 13 on my tumblr blog.
I think this will add to Popo's comparison/review above. So here goes...


Why the Madhouse version of Killua ripping out a heart is comparable to the manga source and above the Nippon version.

First, this one way massacre was shown by Togashi to:
1. make you question whether Killua is a “bad guy” or a “good guy”,
2. demonstrate the difference in skill between him and the other 3 protagonists and;
3. show how Killua is comparable to Hisoka.

The two adaptation (Nippon and Madhouse) presented these 3 things as intended but they focused on different things. Nippon (as well as the manga) build up Johness the Dissector’s notoriety. His feats are shown; the strength of his fingers that can reduce rocks to sand and the speed of his movement to get a chunk of someone’s arm without the owner’s immediate realization. These feats are demonstrated to make the readers/watchers realized that this serial killer must be avoided at all cost (which is why Leorio insisted that the group forfeit the match).

But what happened afterwards? Killua ripped out Johness heart, presented the still beating heart for all to see and to taunt Johness with and then crushes it with a smile on his face. This part clearly shows that despite Johness’ impressive feats as a serial killer, Killua is way above him in terms of strength and speed - the two things that made Johness “special” from the other criminals.

However, the difference between the manga and the Nippon version is that in the manga, this scene was presented horrifyingly because of Killua’s creepy smile (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/killuasassassinfacemanga.jpg) but on Nippon version, it was shown more as a “cool” thing… what’s with the shocked but impressed faces on all characters present (including the examiner, Lippo).

On Madhouse version, instead on focusing on the difference in skill between Killua and Johness (and in extension, the rest of the people on the match), they focused more on what it means to be a child assassin and how similar is Killua to Hisoka.

In this version, Killua ripped out Johness heart as quick as portrayed in the manga although instead of displaying the heart itself, he wrapped the heart on a piece of Johness’ cloth (which was implied to be taken too when he took out the heart). He then taunted Johness with his still beating heart but instead of crushing it, he kept taunting Johness and waited for it to stop beating and Johness to drop dead. He then mockingly “gave back” the heart on Johness’ stretched out hand with a smile on his face and also spend a few seconds to admire his “work”.

All this was done without BGM - adding a creepy feeling on the whole scene. Viewers were forced to pay attention (with their ears and eyes) on the one-way massacre. No distractions in the form of music or shocked faces by other characters. Madhouse hammered to the viewers how similar Killua and Hisoka is and question ourselves whether it is safe to be around him.

Second, this scene is relevant in understanding Gon’s character.

This is where Nippon take a different turn than the manga and the Madhouse version.

In the manga and Madhouse version, Gon was shocked on Killua’s display of his skill in killing Johness but he was not afraid of Killua OR feel anything about a dead man on the ring.

In Nippon version, Gon was seen feeling apprehensive despite his assurance to his teammates that Killua can handle the dangerous man just fine. When Killua took out his opponent’s heart, we saw Gon’s retarded face (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/gonsretardedface.jpg) - he was shown as shocked and have an awkward smile but when you hear his voice, you’ll hear how a little bit afraid he is.

This is a mistake because Gon is never afraid of Killua. True that viewers and readers are supposed to question Killua’s predilection and whether he’s just like Hisoka (just that Gon-tachi doesn’t know it yet). But Gon, after meeting Hisoka, can sense the truly “dangerous” people; it is curious to see that despite knowing Killua as an assassin and seeing him in action, Gon didn’t display any change on his behavior towards Killua.

Third, timeslot and censorship.

We know that the current HxH anime is airing on Sunday morning in Japan where it is considered a “family time”. Meaning lots of kids will be watching the show and therefore, censorship will be more severe than if it aired on a different time slot. As for Nippon HxH tv anime, it was aired every Saturday night at 6.30pm. Despite Madhouse version airing restrictions, their version is still more violent than Nippon’s.

Now let’s examine how these two companies do censorship. In Madhouse version, they handle it through shadows (decapitation and killua’s killing of the 2 candidates) and at the edge, slightly blurred drawings (corpses of the 2 candidates on the blimp and Hisoka taking off a card on someone’s skull) and now through creative use of a cloth.

In Nippon version, they either change the events (Killua just threaten one candidate on the blimp), implied things (Hisoka’s fight with the examiner; we just see the person with a rolled back eyes and Hisoka standing over him) or do bright yellow backdrops to blind as with as seen on Majitani (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/kurapika.jpg)/Kurapika (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/kurapika2.jpg) fight and Killua’s heart (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/killuasheartscene.jpg) scene (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/shiroi_ue/killuasheartscene2.jpg).

Host Samurai
December 18, 2011, 07:03 AM
This episode was by far the worst one so far. They removed an entire exam, the Sushi exam and spend half of the episode with filler!! I understand about the censorship but at this point there's no reason for them to add fillers, they haven't reached or aren't even close to the manga in order to justify it. :-_-

mrsticky005
December 18, 2011, 07:23 AM
This episode was by far the worst one so far. They removed an entire exam, the Sushi exam and spend half of the episode with filler!! I understand about the censorship but at this point there's no reason for them to add fillers, they haven't reached or aren't even close to the manga in order to justify it. :-_-


The first half was boring. The second half was better. Technically the fight between
Tompa and Leorio is filler but it at least provided for a little bit of action.

What's worse is next week is probably a recap episode.

Why don't they just use this wasted time to talk about Kite?

Sheesh.

Filler episodes wouldn't be so bad if they weren't an excuse to not animate or write.

BlackListHunter
December 18, 2011, 09:15 AM
This episode was by far the worst one so far. They removed an entire exam, the Sushi exam and spend half of the episode with filler!! I understand about the censorship but at this point there's no reason for them to add fillers, they haven't reached or aren't even close to the manga in order to justify it. :-_-
I disagree with you

I found this episode to be the most enjoyable of them all.
The way hunters were shown as also being humans and how 50 hours really felt like 50 hours. instead of rushing it. it even felt like a real trick tower as one in the video games.
If only i didnt know what was about to happen i would've shit bricks when i saw gon killua and kurapika clearing the room. and even then it felt really good. the humour the drama all in one episode.

too bad next episode will be a recap, hope they will give atleast a small hint about kaito.

Goral
December 18, 2011, 11:29 AM
12

Another awful episode. Over half of it was a stupid filler making retards out of characters ("you have to think like fish", lol) and making us watch utterly pointless things. It was a level of Isshoni Sleeping so it was boring as hell. At the end they've made a 2 minute cliffhanger (sic!) to show how awesome they can direct the show :rolleyes:. Seriously people, watch the old show to see how it should be done. The worst thing is, next episode will probably be even more awful :/. This show disappoints me on every possible level.

Uriel
December 18, 2011, 12:33 PM
lol at Goral xD I actually enjoy reading you, all the hate for this series is a nice counter of all our cheesy-goody-likey reviews.

This time I have to agree that the episode was boring. Yes, it's nice to reminds us that they're still person and the passing of time WAS exasperating BUT there is faster techniques for that. It became highly tedious. I did enjoy, though, the arrival of each one who passed. Although the monkey has a penis and it's completely uncalled for xD.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwer5k7Io51r5a62uo1_500.png

Second part was good, shorter than I would like it but it's still nice. I liked Lippo in the old series mentioning how much He was surprised of the third option of Gon. It would have been a nice touch to bring that up as well. Oh well, this is better than next episode at least.

Take this:
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And this:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwe12rm7nG1qboiz7o1_500.png
And then...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwe12rm7nG1qboiz7o2_500.png

And suddenly, sex remarks.

Crude
December 18, 2011, 02:36 PM
I didn't find episode 12 to be boring at all. The first half was pretty slow but I did liked seeing what the gang did to pass the time. And yeah the monkey was pretty wtf...

TemplateR
December 18, 2011, 04:28 PM
Half Filler and a recrap episode of next week ? I really don´t mind putting fillers in there, but it shouldn´t be very often just like other Anime-Studio does like Studio Pierrot with "Bleach".
I hope, that the coming battles and important story-scence are filler-free !!!

Anyway, I will watch episode 11 and 12 on Thursday, because at this day I´have free until next year, yeah ^^

thatguy3331
December 18, 2011, 04:30 PM
Hello, just got my account sevral seconds ago, but before I do anything else I shall fulfil why I got this account.

As far as hunter x hunter goes for me, I've only seen a few of the old anime's episodes, but heard that there was more content in the manga (not really surprised) so all of my knowledge of the series stems from the manga not the old anime's version. as to why I'm wathing this anime, Madhouse, a pretty good company for animation, is doing this , plus I don't have alot of better things to do at 11:00pm-1:00 am at night so there. I like this anime alot, its not perfect, there are parts that tick me off, but its such a breath of freash air to see a GOOD adaptation of a manga after being heavily disappointed by... sigh... beelzebub's anime adaption...*my hatred for it just won't go away*

Pros(why I like it): The art is awesome, a little too bright yes, but I have a feeling that madhouse can work with it. Tagoshi himself is overseeing this anime production, knowing that puts me at a comfortable position since if new things DO have to be put in, it won't be dumb. I like reliving some of the past arcs. I've found hunter x hunter to be heavily readable as when I'm waiting to for the newst chapter to come out, I would go back to the exam, greed island, and etc. just to relive some of my favorite momments from there, and seeing it being reanimated is quite a treat. They are doing a good job of keeping this consistant with the manga, despite what little filer is shoved in there, the plot is kept the same, theres no dumb side stories and what ever is filler is 'filled' into what ever wasn't covered in the manga, like the 50 hours, they didn't go off on some little side adventure that would have completely screwed with continutiy or the plot, they just gave us these nice little clips on what they were doing.

Cons(what I've disliked): The first example is subverted because I heard Kaito's flashback will come after the exam, but when I didn't see him in episode one I raised a eyebrow. even still I was just happy our very first episode wasn't gonna be a flash back, but I thought it would have been done a little sooner. Episode 6; I've gotten over them cutting out the sushi part, but what I simply could not forgive was that they took out kurapika's face when he was told "THIS IS NO BETTER THAT LEORIOS!*I forgot his number*" I was laughing hard when I saw that in the manga and even tracked it down in the old anime and got the same result! why in chirst's name did they take it out? WHY? the dragging out of trick tower. Before I liked this part, but I guess it was because I marathoned through it, but once Gon and Kurapika's initial actions were ver it got kinda boring, I laughed at leorio's bit but it was still pretty boring. Killua made it better but I don't think I'll be going back to re read trick tower any time soon. Lastly the preview for episode 13 which is a flash back on whats happened sofar. I really, REALLY don't see the purpose of this, and for now of all times! acctually it really shouldn't even be there at all. there's no point! I WANNA SEE THE TAG HUNT!

overall I enjoy this series, and I really am not planning on seeing the old one cause the way I see it its pointless now. unless I feel like going back to see another person's point *no I am not going to watch the whole thing if any of you say "watch it you'll see our point!" If it was for the manga I would since I find the manga or light novel of a series to be the absolute core version, but for another anime adaption, no thanks.

Netero
December 18, 2011, 04:39 PM
Hello, just got my account sevral seconds ago, but before I do anything else I shall fulfil why I got this account.

As far as hunter x hunter goes for me, I've only seen a few of the old anime's episodes, but heard that there was more content in the manga (not really surprised) so all of my knowledge of the series stems from the manga not the old anime's version. as to why I'm wathing this anime, Madhouse, a pretty good company for animation, is doing this , plus I don't have alot of better things to do at 11:00pm-1:00 am at night so there. I like this anime alot, its not perfect, there are parts that tick me off, but its such a breath of freash air to see a GOOD adaptation of a manga after being heavily disappointed by... sigh... beelzebub's anime adaption...*my hatred for it just won't go away*

Pros(why I like it): The art is awesome, a little too bright yes, but I have a feeling that madhouse can work with it. Tagoshi himself is overseeing this anime production, knowing that puts me at a comfortable position since if new things DO have to be put in, it won't be dumb. I like reliving some of the past arcs. I've found hunter x hunter to be heavily readable as when I'm waiting to for the newst chapter to come out, I would go back to the exam, greed island, and etc. just to relive some of my favorite momments from there, and seeing it being reanimated is quite a treat. They are doing a good job of keeping this consistant with the manga, despite what little filer is shoved in there, the plot is kept the same, theres no dumb side stories and what ever is filler is 'filled' into what ever wasn't covered in the manga, like the 50 hours, they didn't go off on some little side adventure that would have completely screwed with continutiy or the plot, they just gave us these nice little clips on what they were doing.

Cons(what I've disliked): The first example is subverted because I heard Kaito's flashback will come after the exam, but when I didn't see him in episode one I raised a eyebrow. even still I was just happy our very first episode wasn't gonna be a flash back, but I thought it would have been done a little sooner. Episode 6; I've gotten over them cutting out the sushi part, but what I simply could not forgive was that they took out kurapika's face when he was told "THIS IS NO BETTER THAT LEORIOS!*I forgot his number*" I was laughing hard when I saw that in the manga and even tracked it down in the old anime and got the same result! why in chirst's name did they take it out? WHY? the dragging out of trick tower. Before I liked this part, but I guess it was because I marathoned through it, but once Gon and Kurapika's initial actions were ver it got kinda boring, I laughed at leorio's bit but it was still pretty boring. Killua made it better but I don't think I'll be going back to re read trick tower any time soon. Lastly the preview for episode 13 which is a flash back on whats happened sofar. I really, REALLY don't see the purpose of this, and for now of all times! acctually it really shouldn't even be there at all. there's no point! I WANNA SEE THE TAG HUNT!

overall I enjoy this series, and I really am not planning on seeing the old one cause the way I see it its pointless now. unless I feel like going back to see another person's point *no I am not going to watch the whole thing if any of you say "watch it you'll see our point!" If it was for the manga I would since I find the manga or light novel of a series to be the absolute core version, but for another anime adaption, no thanks.

Great first post man :super

Uriel
December 18, 2011, 05:00 PM
I was also eager of that face of Kurapika.

Welcome :D Hope you enjoy this forum. I'm the mod around here so ask me for anything.

thatguy3331
December 18, 2011, 05:13 PM
Thanks guys! :D

Crude
December 18, 2011, 05:21 PM
I'm hoping that the next episode really isn't a filler/recap. Why would one be necessary in the first place? It's still far too early for the viewers to be forgetful of past events in the series, and the manga is so way ahead that the new anime won't be getting too close to the latest chapters any time soon. My mind is baffled...

BlackListHunter
December 18, 2011, 05:41 PM
I'm hoping that the next episode really isn't a filler/recap. Why would one be necessary in the first place? It's still far too early for the viewers to be forgetful of past events in the series, and the manga is so way ahead that the new anime won't be getting too close to the latest chapters any time soon. My mind is baffled...

i guess because they still got 1 week left before the winter anime season starts, and they want to start the second half of the exam (and maybe zaoldyeck arc) with a new opening/ending.

Netero
December 18, 2011, 05:43 PM
I'm hoping that the next episode really isn't a filler/recap. Why would one be necessary in the first place? It's still far too early for the viewers to be forgetful of past events in the series, and the manga is so way ahead that the new anime won't be getting too close to the latest chapters any time soon. My mind is baffled...

I agree. There is no point for a recap at this point in the anime because we are only on the 12th episode, and the manga is still 300+ chapter ahead. I just hope it's no longer than 5 or 10 minutes.....

---------- Post added at 05:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:42 PM ----------


i guess because they still got 1 week left before the winter anime season starts, and they want to start the second half of the exam (and maybe zaoldyeck arc) with a new opening/ending.

Actually this makes sense.

Host Samurai
December 18, 2011, 06:19 PM
I disagree with you

I found this episode to be the most enjoyable of them all.
The way hunters were shown as also being humans and how 50 hours really felt like 50 hours. instead of rushing it. it even felt like a real trick tower as one in the video games.
If only i didnt know what was about to happen i would've shit bricks when i saw gon killua and kurapika clearing the room. and even then it felt really good. the humour the drama all in one episode.

too bad next episode will be a recap, hope they will give atleast a small hint about kaito.

I disagree with you.

I found the episode worst by far due to the things that you mentioned and the fact, that these events never took place in the manga. The thing that pains me the most right now, is also the fact that, they left out the Sushi exam for no apparent reasons. I initially thought back then, that it became the 'victim' due to the fast pacing. But now, I'm not so sure anymore. They left it out for something like THIS episode, 10 minutes full of nothing canon!! Madhouse isn't doing a great job with this Anime, when it's about pacing at first, they were fast as hell, that they even skipped story relevant material and now they're slowing things even down, that they need to put some filler in. Where is the consistency?

thatguy3331
December 18, 2011, 06:46 PM
I disagree with you.

I found the episode worst by far due to the things that you mentioned and the fact, that these events never took place in the manga. The thing that pains me the most right now, is also the fact that, they left out the Sushi exam for no apparent reasons. I initially thought back then, that it became the 'victim' due to the fast pacing. But now, I'm not so sure anymore. They left it out for something like THIS episode, 10 minutes full of nothing canon!! Madhouse isn't doing a great job with this Anime, when it's about pacing at first, they were fast as hell, that they even skipped story relevant material and now they're slowing things even down, that they need to put some filler in. Where is the consistency?

I partily have to disagree with you. Yes, it wasn't in the manga and I myself pay close attention to whats in the manga or not, but it wasn't horrible. The reason I liked this is because hunter x hunter almost never has calm momments like these and plus it wasn't like they derailed off the original plot which is another reason I don't mind this. Also for the sushi thing, yes I'll admit I was irritated when they cut that part out, but all in all the whole point of that was that the examiner failed them all, they had to do a new exam and then they moved on to the blimp. it never really became inconsitant, because yes it was filler but it didn't derail from anything, there was not gay side adventure, no gay getting along with tompa everything made sense!

hachikurooo
December 18, 2011, 07:16 PM
Fantastic episode this week. I usually enjoy the way this adaptation does its characterizations and this version has had me intrigued by Tonpa's character. I know he's a minor character, and a very annoying one at that but for some reason I've sort of developed a strange liking to our novice killer. I'm pleased how this series can handle subtlety pretty well. I'd really have that over the comical acting.

Goral
December 19, 2011, 12:10 AM
I'm hoping that the next episode really isn't a filler/recap.
You can hope all you want but preview made it clear it will be a recap-episode which is even worse than filler in 12th episode...


(...)
I found this episode to be the most enjoyable of them all.
The way hunters were shown as also being humans and how 50 hours really felt like 50 hours. instead of rushing it. it even felt like a real trick tower as one in the video games.
If only i didnt know what was about to happen i would've shit bricks when i saw gon killua and kurapika clearing the room. and even then it felt really good. the humour the drama all in one episode. (...)

Since you mentioned shitting, by focusing on such pointless things like staring at the wall (or worse) viewers that are bored by it (before seeing posts here I would say everyone) tend to detach from the story as a result and pay more attention to details. For example, in the room was everything people would need except a toilet. Having to stay for over 50 hours without a chance to take a crap earlier could prove fatal to people that had to stay in such a small room. Forget about having to sniff Tonpa's socks, that would be like daisies compared to the smell of some other 'things' ;P. And that's only one of the problems with that scene. This episode is really as worthless as Isshoni Sleeping (http://myanimelist.net/anime/7897/Issho_ni_Sleeping:_Sleeping_with_Hinako) and I just can't believe there are people who actually enjoyed it.

Also, I think no one mentioned it but creators of this version ripped the idea of Tonpa and Leorio fighting from old version creators (unless it was Togashi himself who came up with it). Which wouldn't be a bad idea if they didn't try to "improve" that scene and show they have ideas of their own. Particularly the fact that Tonpa used a halberd instead of an axe. Firstly, he's a bit too short for that weapon, secondly it was a stupid choice for a room of that size.

As I've said many times already, this anime is very badly directed (same thing happened with Claymore anime which was also produced by Madhouse studio). At first the pace was too fast and they've cut too much of material (important at that), then they've slowed down and old anime episodes showed more in less time in comparison. Now they've started adding hideous fillers that made me to use skip button for the first time I've been watching new anime. Even people not familiar with the manga will easily recognize that it is filler (contrary to old anime where fillers were actually interesting and fitted well with the rest). This is a disaster.

Host Samurai
December 19, 2011, 05:38 AM
I partily have to disagree with you. Yes, it wasn't in the manga and I myself pay close attention to whats in the manga or not, but it wasn't horrible. The reason I liked this is because hunter x hunter almost never has calm momments like these and plus it wasn't like they derailed off the original plot which is another reason I don't mind this. Also for the sushi thing, yes I'll admit I was irritated when they cut that part out, but all in all the whole point of that was that the examiner failed them all, they had to do a new exam and then they moved on to the blimp. it never really became inconsitant, because yes it was filler but it didn't derail from anything, there was not gay side adventure, no gay getting along with tompa everything made sense!

The Hunter exam is supposed to be extreme and intense, that is also the reason, why there aren't many Hunters in the first place. I have nothing against filler but this was executed badly. They dragged it for 10 minutes, and in the 10 minutes the one who got the most character development was Tompa (lol of all people) and Leorio. Of course it's incosistent, the pacing is. In the earlier episodes, Madhouse made us think, that the Hunter exam will end around episode XY. IIRC someone in this thread posted his prediction, on which episode the Hunter exam will end on, he/she took the pacing into consideration.

@Uriel: LOL I just noticed the monkey's penis in your post. That is ok for Madhouse to show but not a crushed heart inside a bag? :blink

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Looks like the pace is two chapters per episode

By Episode 15 (end of the first box set of the original) We should be on Chapter 30.


By Episode 30 (end of the second box set of the original) we should be on Chapter 60

By Episode 45 (end of the third box set of the original) we should be on Chapter 90

I think it said 45 episodes are guaranteed. But there's likely to be more.



So by Episode 62 (end of the Fourth Box Set and original tv series) we'll be on Chapter 124

By Episode 70 (end of the first OVA) we'll be on Chapter 140

By Episode 78 (end of the 2nd OVA) we'll be on Chapter 156

By Episode 92 (end of the 3rd OVA) we'll be on Chapter 184


Which will include just about everything that's been animated before
But hopefully there will be more and so...

Episode 100 Chapter 200

Episode 125 Chapter 250

Episode 150 Chapter 300

Episode 159 Chapter 318

So 159 episodes at two chapters per episode pace takes us to where the manga is now.

We are now on episode 12 and the corresponding manga chapter is 22, page 18 (http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter22/153106-18.html).

thatguy3331
December 19, 2011, 12:49 PM
The Hunter exam is supposed to be extreme and intense, that is also the reason, why there aren't many Hunters in the first place. I have nothing against filler but this was executed badly. They dragged it for 10 minutes, and in the 10 minutes the one who got the most character development was Tompa (lol of all people) and Leorio. Of course it's incosistent, the pacing is. In the earlier episodes, Madhouse made us think, that the Hunter exam will end around episode XY. IIRC someone in this thread posted his prediction, on which episode the Hunter exam will end on, he/she took the pacing into consideration.



Ok, thats understandable, also I didn't know you were refering to the pacing, because that is pretty inconsistant. but I still fail to see the 10 minutes of filler be executed badly. We already know all we need to now about our main characters at the time so really it wasn't like they needed any extra development, hence why tompa got his, and even still I hardly find it to be a development rather than just him further expressing his characterization which was what every one else was doing. I agree with the pacing to an extent but still disagree on how the filler was handled.

Popo
December 19, 2011, 02:13 PM
You can hope all you want but preview made it clear it will be a recap-episode which is even worse than filler in 12th episode...
The alternative would be to not show an episode at all. Next Sunday is Christmas--typically, few anime shows are willing to air anything due to the ratings dive. There won't be an episode airing on January 1st for this exact reason. A recap makes sense because of the fact that there are no reruns of the show and Japanese fans being able only to catch the TV broadcast once. Plus, there's always the possibility of people tuning in for the first time, via being up early on Christmas morning.

The 1999 series actually had this exact same problem--if continued weekly, it should have aired on both Christmas Day and New Year's Day. Instead of showing anything or doing a recap, it just didn't air for two weeks. It took another two week hiatus around this time the following year as well, despite not airing on Christmas/New Year.


The Hunter exam is supposed to be extreme and intense, that is also the reason, why there aren't many Hunters in the first place. I have nothing against filler but this was executed badly. They dragged it for 10 minutes, and in the 10 minutes the one who got the most character development was Tompa (lol of all people) and Leorio. Of course it's incosistent, the pacing is. In the earlier episodes, Madhouse made us think, that the Hunter exam will end around episode XY. IIRC someone in this thread posted his prediction, on which episode the Hunter exam will end on, he/she took the pacing into consideration.

@Uriel: LOL I just noticed the monkey's penis in your post. That is ok for Madhouse to show but not a crushed heart inside a bag? :blink
Well, keep in mind that the protagonists actually spent 50 hours in a room--it just wasn't shown in the manga. As far as time goes, 50 hours is longer than anything the protagonists' had spent on any task during the Hunter Exam. Though it was slow for viewers to watch, it would have been slower to actually have been in the room.

Nudity and violence are two different ballgames, however. You can see nude animals all of the time during nature shows--it really shouldn't be a big deal.

Goral
December 19, 2011, 02:33 PM
@Popo
The alternative (i.e. a hiatus) is better if only for the fact that you don't have on DVD/Blu-ray disc pointless episodes that only take space and make "real" episodes more expensive. That's why Gintama rocks since there are no fillers in it.

BurnSchulz
December 19, 2011, 09:40 PM
I dont like this ANime til no.... because i cannot really fully enjoy it.

I cant turn my brain off saying me "This is wrong!, that is filler!, why did they cut this?, why did they add this? (and so on)" all the time...
I dont really care about the lesser amount of violence and blood, its about the accuracy to the manga.

Since the first episode of the new HxH Anime i always noticed when things where different from the Manga.
I automaticly do, because i somehow expect more or less nearly the same things to happen (in the same order) as in the Manga.

But the Changes are partially so big, that it ruins the storytelling in some way.

I dont want an anime just to have my favorite Manga Characters animated, i want it to see them being "alive". But in this Anime its more like other charecters, and not really the same. - - Dont take this too literally, try to get my feelings.

Well it just dont feel right all the time. All the little changes are disturbing me. And as i said its not about the violence.
How can i say... Its about these Keymoments, that i liked the best in the Manga, are now different, and not so cool anymore.
Well Killua not Smashing the Heart was predictable, what he did instead was still very cool.

But why wasn't there the Sishi Cooking, or the Second (bigger) Storm when Gon was on the Ship (first episode)... The Guy wich walked into Hisoka, why did we saw his Arms fading away in bright dust or something? - In The Manga they just werent there anymore.
You dont even have to explain it with cutting them off, maybe with his camo texture, but what was that?!

I dont want to make this anime bad, i mean there are much things i like very much, like the Character Designs (just the drawings) are closer to the Manga than in the first anime, but my Brain just cant deal with all the little differences wich are partially unnecessary and/or goofy.

I guess that this will get better the More the anime goes into the Story. But the first few Episodes, i would just rate them:
Manga accuracy 1/5 to 3/5 max (depending on wich episode) - (some little changes just ruin my expectations).
Animation itself would be always 4/5 up to 5/5.
Char Design also 5/5
Overall merely 2/5 til now.

Luckily they later dont have enough stuff to make Filler episodes. Well i just have to wait for later episodes.
I just have to go through this.
Well to be very honest (not that you think something else) i also didnt like the start from the first Anime, but later on it got better and better!
So high hopes here!

shareme
December 21, 2011, 10:07 AM
@BurnSchulz

Tell me, as I'm very curious why you "feel" that the Madhouse version is so "wrong". What medium did you first known about HxH? Manga or Anime? and if it's the Nippon/old anime, how accurate would you rate it in regards to the manga?

hokageji
December 22, 2011, 08:29 PM
Wow, after reading a few posts here, I like the new arc more.

Killua's heart steal was way better in this version. I remember loving it int he old series and so my expectations were high. What made the old series part better is how killua reveals his nails, the new one showed that secret on the zepellin craft before itself. kinda spoiled it

Host Samurai
December 23, 2011, 04:04 AM
Well, keep in mind that the protagonists actually spent 50 hours in a room--it just wasn't shown in the manga. As far as time goes, 50 hours is longer than anything the protagonists' had spent on any task during the Hunter Exam. Though it was slow for viewers to watch, it would have been slower to actually have been in the room.

Nudity and violence are two different ballgames, however. You can see nude animals all of the time during nature shows--it really shouldn't be a big deal.

I know that myself, that's why I keep repeating myself they could've done it better. IMO the spent hours weren't really necessary to show us in this manner, I mean 10 minutes is just too much. The narrator could've skipped the 50 hours by saying: 'After Gon and his friends, finished to spend their 50 hours they now proceed with the Hunter exam'... This could've been done in a minute but they didn't, instead they have waisted 10 minutes for some unnecessary bullshit.

capricorn
December 23, 2011, 11:35 AM
I actually like the new anime mostly because they did the art justice, but I totally understand your feelings as it regards changing canon content from the manga in the animated interpretation, it really gets under my skin as well.

chikkychappy
December 24, 2011, 09:41 AM
full version of departure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWafesR83s

BurnSchulz
December 25, 2011, 05:16 PM
@BurnSchulz

Tell me, as I'm very curious why you "feel" that the Madhouse version is so "wrong". What medium did you first known about HxH? Manga or Anime? and if it's the Nippon/old anime, how accurate would you rate it in regards to the manga?

First Medium was Manga.
In Germany we once had a Magazine similar to Shonen Jump but released Monthwise not weekly, so after 50 Issues that Magazine broke up because the Manga Issue release was faster than 1 to 3 chapters per month.
It was always one of my favorite Series.

Well i described my feeling during the anime Episodes while i watched them, and that it felt wrong in some way. I guess you deserve a detailed description of why i had theese feelings.
Well for that i have to watch the episodes again. Though you have to give me some time.

lan2cp
December 25, 2011, 09:49 PM
I think that I speak for all of us when I say that we should all pretend episode 13 never happened. Don't even bother to watch unless you somehow forgot what has happened so far. I ended up watching only the preview of episode 14.

Uriel
December 25, 2011, 10:32 PM
lol. We all know it was a crap episode, but I was expecting it. After all it's holidays and Manga/Anime doesn't escape that :P

Goral
December 26, 2011, 12:36 AM
Of course it does (do I need to point out examples?) - you can always use 1 week break. Unless they won't add this crappy and pointless episode into DVD/Blu-Ray this anime will lose in my eyes even more than it already has. So far creators of this show are cheap bastards and they cut out the important stuff and add stuff that's cheap to animate (like staring into a wall for 10 minutes as seen in a previous episode) to "compensate". That way they won't reach the ant arc sooner than in 50 episodes and will "dilute" the action so that every DVD volume will have one decent episode and no more.

chikkychappy
December 26, 2011, 04:21 AM
Of course it does (do I need to point out examples?) - you can always use 1 week break. .

the episode is meh for me but i still think having one makes business sense.

Goral
December 26, 2011, 06:18 AM
I didn't say it's not good for business, on the contrary (hence "cheap bastards" comment).

lan2cp
December 27, 2011, 07:31 PM
lol. We all know it was a crap episode, but I was expecting it. After all it's holidays and Manga/Anime doesn't escape that :P

Very true. Will there be an episode this sunday or will there be a week off because of new years?

Netero
December 27, 2011, 10:36 PM
Very true. Will there be an episode this sunday or will there be a week off because of new years?

There won't be an episode this weekend. The next episode is scheduled for January 7 on crunchyroll.

lan2cp
December 28, 2011, 08:14 AM
There won't be an episode this weekend. The next episode is scheduled for January 7 on crunchyroll.

Thank you! I hope these pointless fillers were just because of the holidays.

Host Samurai
December 28, 2011, 09:37 AM
Thank you! I hope these pointless fillers were just because of the holidays.

Never say never as the saying goes, with Madhouse you might never know if they'll make use of fillers in the future... :D

Uriel
December 28, 2011, 09:42 AM
You know you're calling bad spirits, Samurai. Don't. I can tolerate one filler per 10 episodes. I filled my quota with this one.

Host Samurai
December 28, 2011, 09:57 AM
You know you're calling bad spirits, Samurai. Don't. I can tolerate one filler per 10 episodes. I filled my quota with this one.

I didn't intend to sound this way. I should have posted a smiley to avoid a misunderstanding. :D

~Andrew~
December 29, 2011, 06:55 AM
Well, I wasn't expecting for Killuah to crush the heart of this mass murder, but they could've down much better without much effort. For example: Killuah could've just thrown the heart out of the arena all the way down. This way they would've captured the "theme" of this situation and it's a way to reduce the violence of Killuah crushing a uncensored heart and if he threw it away it would also show his intention of showing his enemy that there's absolutely no way to recover his heart no matter what (that's the feeling I got when I read it the first time). Killuah's mercilessness was missing completely in that remaked episode and that's an important part to show Killuah's roots as an Assasin, dont you think?
Don't get me wrong, I think the way the Animation Studio did this scene was kinda funny, but it wasn't supossed to be funny and I think if they have to reduce violence that much than they should at least keep the theme of a scenario.. if possible.

I'll keep watching this remake but I honestly don't see how they want to succeed in the Chimera Ant Arc if they don't start to think harder about this violence issue. o.O

I wanted to say this for a while now, but it's kinda hard for me to explain my point without appearing angry. lol

ashher
December 29, 2011, 10:06 AM
Just cause the scene was funny doesn't make it any less cruel or heartless. In fact the 'fun' was more like 'macaber,twisted pleasure'. My only complain is the shape of the heart wasn't well drawn.

~Andrew~
December 29, 2011, 10:54 AM
Well, that's a plausible explantation, too. But I for my part can't really say that I share your point of view, that may be due to my love for Killuah's unique personality. Especially the merciless part of his personality and I don't think that his behavior in this episode was fitting in with the meaning and the chapters theme at all. Because Killuah is still kinda new to the group this cruel move was to show that he's no child you want to piss off, since Leo and Kurapika had no clue about Kil's abilities up to that point, therefore they were astonished about the heart-removal-thingy =3

And as I said I'm not angry or something like that, but I will be pissed off like hell if they're going to f**k up some major scene's meaning or something worse, because the Animation Studio should know the Mange they're adapting. I'm positive that they will do a good job though it's mad house we're talking about here after all *~*

I just hope they forsee possible problems with upcoming violence in major story events. =)

I like how you interpreted Kil's merciless, though :)

I'm looking forward to the Hunter Exam's Final Stage, sucks that we have to wait a little bit for the next episode, but I guess it's worth waiting for.

lan2cp
December 30, 2011, 08:03 AM
Guys there is something that has been bothering me for some time, what are the possibilities that the animation team purposefully left out Kaito in order to eliminate the Chimera Ant Arc from this new anime?

Divinenega
December 30, 2011, 08:24 AM
Guys there is something that has been bothering me for some time, what are the possibilities that the animation team purposefully left out Kaito in order to eliminate the Chimera Ant Arc from this new anime?

None. It was said that Kaito would just be removed from the EARLY parts of the series. Supposedly because it would shorten the gap between that flashback and his actual appearance in the present.

~Andrew~
January 01, 2012, 06:44 AM
@lan2cp: You can also see Kaito in Hunter x Hunter's ending. There would be no reason for them to show him, if they're intending to drop Kaito's part in the later story completely. =)
Don't worry too much :]

The Chimera Ant Arc will be kind of a test for the Animation Studio, that's for sure.
That's why I already mentioned the importance of a little bit foresight xD
They can't just remove 50% of violence in Anime scenes without taking the latest completed Manga Arc into consideration. xD


It's their problem/their work so we should let them worry about future problems and I'm sure they'll handle everything as good as possible.

Uriel and I said a while ago when the Anime just started, that we want to wait for the actual Animation before we make up our mind, but I for my part have yet to wait for further animation, major battle animations to be precise, heh. Kil&Gon "VS" Netero was already nice animated, but Lucifer VS Kil's Dad and Gramps is a battle I'm looking forward to.
As long as the fights are cool I'm cool with the Anime too xD".

thatguy3331
January 08, 2012, 01:31 AM
Ah an acctual episode! or rather some HxH material!

I liked this ep, Yeah I will say the first half with the ballots was dragged out but I liked the boat scene with Leorio and Kurapika conversing as well as gon and killua. what was really icing on the cake for that part was the bright detailed look in gon's eyes when he was happy/scared.

I LOVED the second half, once again madhouse proved that it can handle the action scenes well, even though it was short as crap, I loved how the arrow was animated to fly and Gon's training was done well. I was neutural to Gon's hunter's breif appearances as it made me question why he didn't just take gon's tag while he was asleep or something...

well I give this ep a 8/10, and judging by the preview we're gonna get ALOT of material next week! I'm looking forward to it

on another note I'm getting more and more used to the OST used, it took me a while to get used to but everything seemed to be used at the right momment. What I would have liked however is if the last track before the ep ended when gon snagged the bird, that they at least waited until gon acctually CAUGHT the bird rather than before hand but thats just a small gripe on my part.

~Andrew~
January 08, 2012, 01:43 AM
Thank you for remembering me. I'll watch EP 14 after I took a little nap (24h awake already + hard work). I will Edit my posting and reply to yours after I finished watching.
But a Ranking of 8/10 sounds pretty good.

Crude
January 08, 2012, 07:28 AM
The episode felt a little bit short. It was a cool episode and it had some pretty well animated moments (which make me think that future fights will look awesome!), but some scenes were pretty dragged out.

mrsticky005
January 08, 2012, 08:24 AM
It was dragged out but they did have two chapters worth of material. Which is standard.
I was disappointed that they didn't show Gon almost realizing Geretta is chasing him.
I was actually worried that they would forget Geretta altogether but thankfully they didn't.

As for the good...the action shown was great. Especially the Pokkle vs #105


Speaking of which...anyone else think #105 and the captain of the ship from whale island might be drinking buddies?

Next episode though looks like it will be quite good. :)

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Also I think the arrow sequence may be the most gore this version of HxH has seen. Would be nice if they kept it up.

Uriel
January 08, 2012, 02:51 PM
Good chapter. Not awesome, though, I expect the next one to be like that. But glad things are getting shaped and us more close to the final fights to finally make a good judgement of this series.

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This probably makes the whole episode :P
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxgvxu0KAx1qe95joo3_r2_500.gif

Tame
January 08, 2012, 03:35 PM
Pretty cool episode. My favourite parts were when they showed all 24 examinees in the order they left the tower, and Pokkle on the hunt - the animation was great for the arrow shot. The content for the episode was hardly to be expected to be amazingly exciting, but the next episodes should be really great.

Sea Hunter
January 10, 2012, 09:59 PM
Good chapter. Not awesome, though, I expect the next one to be like that. But glad things are getting shaped and us more close to the final fights to finally make a good judgement of this series.

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This probably makes the whole episode :P
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxgvxu0KAx1qe95joo3_r2_500.gif

Can someone change the size of this pic to fit into a sig? if Uriel doesnt mind me using it ofc.

Uriel
January 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
Can someone change the size of this pic to fit into a sig? if Uriel doesnt mind me using it ofc.
The gifs are not mine, just Tumblr stuff I post here. Use them freely.

lan2cp
January 11, 2012, 08:50 AM
@lan2cp: You can also see Kaito in Hunter x Hunter's ending. There would be no reason for them to show him, if they're intending to drop Kaito's part in the later story completely. =)
Don't worry too much :]

I fail to see Kaito in the ending, can you help me find him?

MegamanX195
January 11, 2012, 11:49 AM
I fail to see Kaito in the ending, can you help me find him?

He probably meant the opening, one of the silhouetes should be Kaito.

There's one shot of someone holding Gon in the ending, but that's obviously Ging, since Gon is too young to have even known Kaito at that point.

Netero
January 11, 2012, 02:51 PM
I fail to see Kaito in the ending, can you help me find him?

He's the silhouette in the middle.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111107232554/hunterxhunter/images/thumb/3/30/Hunters_Association.jpg/768px-Hunters_Association.jpg

Uriel
January 14, 2012, 10:49 AM
The arrow.
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnjzaRBDn1r9d2p4o3_250.gif

thatguy3331
January 15, 2012, 12:46 AM
@uriel arrow snagged!

anyway it was another good one this week. Although I gotta say I liked the first half the best.

It looks like the studio is slowly but surely getting ready for its transition to the darker aspects of the series. I like how gon made himself motionless to wait for hisoka (need to make a avi for that) and I liked Leorio and Kurapika's bit, I never noticed that the sign said "do not feed" on tompa and the monkey dude, so I got a laugh outta that! XD while I liked the first half more, the second half has small bits of good ol' Zyoldc goodness, as Illumi makes his real appearance (I swear no matter how many times I see it him digging is the most random thing in the whole damn series) and Killua calling one of the trio members.

Like I said before the series is begining its transition, as in the preview you can see Hisoka's face is on kill mode, which means we may get to see gon's capture!

As far as negitive things, the only thing is that when the spear guy came in, just as hisoka put little effort into dodging his attacks, the same can be said for the animation. Its not bad, but its nothing compared to episode's 10 show of hisoka against the ex examiner. I can let it slide, since its not really THAT important.

8.5 for me.

mrsticky005
January 15, 2012, 02:19 AM
I like how Illumi actually sounds like a guy this time as compared to the '99 Subtitle version.

Animation could have been better but oh well. Still a good episode.

Can't wait for next week.

Netero
January 15, 2012, 02:29 AM
Yeah, I like Illumi's new voice a lot better.

chikkychappy
January 15, 2012, 04:09 AM
would have really liked this episode if not for the slow pacing. seriously, why

mrsticky005
January 15, 2012, 10:15 AM
would have really liked this episode if not for the slow pacing. seriously, why

You're talking about episode 14 right?
Because a lot happened in episode 15.

Also only the first half of 14 was slow.

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BTW am I the only who is actually HAPPY that they skipped the battleship hotel filler mini arc?

I mean it's a decent filler but people act like it was a masterpiece when really it was just mediocre.

Uriel
January 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
And Popo did not posted her review about the previous chapter. T_T


Anyway, I liked this episode, felt really good and well paced. Illumi voice was the best thing, I've to admit and his transformation was incredibly cool.

Gifballooza of this episode:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxucj52u4S1r2ohozo2_500.gif
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxts1gG8KH1r4s8who1_500.gif
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtti52Wm91r4s8who2_r1_500.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxu8kpYNeG1r8v7y3o1_500.gif
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxu8gwJxW01r8v7y3o2_500.gif
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuixmV3D51r2ohozo1_r2_500.gif

Popo
January 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
And Popo did not posted her review about the previous chapter. T_T
I'll be doing all three today! ;)

The pacing wasn't slow. It was just like the manga. The same can't be said for the 1999 series' version of this episode.

Tame
January 15, 2012, 10:59 AM
Just watched the episode - it was great, and it always leaves me itching for more. I just wish that there was more than 18 minutes or so of screentime per episode. The animation on Illumi's face was fantastic, and Kurapika kicking Tonpa was hilarious.

Uriel
January 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
It made it interesting. Now I understand why Hisoka says what He says.

And lol Pop, thanks! I'm craving for those reviews :C Although why the last 3? I thought that without the recap there are only 2 chapters worth of reviewing.

Popo
January 15, 2012, 12:12 PM
It made it interesting. Now I understand why Hisoka says what He says.

And lol Pop, thanks! I'm craving for those reviews :C Although why the last 3? I thought that without the recap there are only 2 chapters worth of reviewing.
I didn't do a comparison for episode 12 either.

I was thinking about detailing the ship filler and the recap, but I don't think it's necessary anymore. Though I'll mention that it is canon that Gon sent Mito at least two letters during the Hunter Exam.

Uriel
January 15, 2012, 12:27 PM
Seriously? I just can't remember that :O

thatguy3331
January 15, 2012, 12:44 PM
Yay! popo's the one who did the comparisons right? Can't wai- WAIT THE LETTERS WERE CANNON?! I never remembered any letters... and wait... two? please don't tell me we may get another stupi recap...*ugh*

Crude
January 15, 2012, 02:13 PM
Another good episode even if it felt a little slow, though not as much as the previous one. I like Illumi's voice, but I really did think that they would give him a more androgynous one. I didn't really like the way his actual face was drawn, especially the nose. Another issue I had was the purple tint/filter used for the night scenes. Why not stick to blue like in past episodes?

Popo
January 15, 2012, 06:12 PM
Doing three comparisons today. Here's the first one--Episode 12.
Episode 12 covers chapter 22 in the manga, and corresponds to episode 17 of the 1999 series. Though some dislike the slow pace of this episode, I actually liked the focus on the mundane activities of the protagonists. Since the entire first half was filler, the latter half didn't drag. Both versions cover a single chapter, but the filler in the 2011 series could be canon due to it taking place in the 50 hours the protagonists spent in that room. I always wanted to see what happened in that time period, but the manga and first series both gloss over it.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/Room1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/Room2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/Room3.jpg

This episode is decent in the 1999 series as well. It changes a lot of things from the manga, but still isn't all bad. The art is pretty good and there's a well-animated scene done by Norio Matsumoto in it.

There are some very good scenes in here of Gon and Killua's friendship. The duo is fun to watch, which was an issue in the 1999 series. If you're interested in the filler, watch it.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonKilFriends1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonKilFriends2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonKilFriends3.jpg

Gon and Killua are significantly less entertaining in the 1999 series. I don't mean to go on the offensive, but this is largely due to the 1999 series' shift in character tones. The 1999 series is a bishonen show. You could assign an Ouran HS Host Club archetype onto every single one of the protagonists and have it be accurate. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn't seen the DVD covers.
http://i40.tinypic.com/15meiog.jpg
Because Gon isn't characterized as the "cool" type of bishonen in the 1999 series, he isn't focused on. Togashi's characters aren't like this in the manga--they're cute. But I digress.

So our boys leave the room. In the manga and 2011 series, they end up back where they started. This doesn't happen in the 1999 series.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/BoysAreBackInTown2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/BoysAreBackInTown3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/IndieBoys1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/IndieBoys2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/IndieBoys3.jpg

Leorio complains more in the 1999 series. The 1999 series makes up the pejorative nickname "the Yamori Brothers" for Amori and his siblings. It sticks throughout the series. Leorio grabs Tonpa and yells at him, and pulls a knife on him in the manga and 1999 series. The 1999 series takes away Leorio's switchblade and changes it to a Japanese knife. The 2011 series only has Leorio raise his fists. Gon reveals he pressed X by accident. Killua in the manga and 2011 series thinks that the argument is stupid and doesn't care about it. In the 1999 series, he doesn't acknowledge it.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioGrabTonpa1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioGrabTonpa2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioGrabTonpa3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonSry1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonSry2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonSry3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioKnife1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioKnife2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioKnife3.jpg

We hit the final stretch.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/FinalFork1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/FinalFork2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/FinalFork3.jpg

This room looks more like it does in the manga. Madhouse caught on that it was structured with the same material as the battle room.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/BattleRoom1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/BattleRoom2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/BattleRoom3.jpg
In the manga and 2011 series, the group has to vote upon whether or not they want to take the final challenge before Lippo explains the rules. Lippo's speech about the rules is written completely differently in the 1999 series. The challenge's twist is tossed into the end of it. Lippo also notes (in the Nippon Animation version) that the challenges thus far should have developed camraderie between the applicants. But wasn't the point that they would dissent enough to betray each other? Inconsistency.

The 1999 series starts to understand Togashi's alphabet in this episode for the first time. However, they still utilize it wrong--the words on screen don't match what is being said, and they're grammatically incorrect.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TrickSign1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TrickSign2.jpg

Tonpa votes X as a joke and Leorio gets mad. It's in the manga and 2011 series, not in the 1999 series.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaSnark2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaSnark3.jpg

Leorio decides to vote X. Gon decides to vote O.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioBatsu1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioBatsu2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeorioBatsu3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonMaru1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonMaru2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonMaru3.jpg

This is where the series diverge. In the 1999 series, Tonpa fakes chaining himself to the wall and acts as if he's given up, in order to cause the remaining four to fight amongst themselves. Only Kurapika and Killua notice that he's faking--I found this to be a shame because it detracts away from Gon's powers of observation. Gon is more vocal in his intentions and outwardly stubborn in the 1999 series. When Tonpa is revealed to be tricking the rest of his teammates (only Kurapika and Killua notice he's faking), he attempts to fight Leorio. Norio Matsumoto animates the fight scene and it's pretty decent. In the middle of the fight, Gon notices that the ax is strong enough to break the cement floors and assumes that the weapons can do the same to the walls. He uses his ingenuity, gets his team to vote O, and they break through the wall using the weapons.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaChained1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaChained2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaChained3.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaChained4.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonAxe1.jpg

The 2011 version has Leorio and Tonpa fight, but it's more comical and brief than in the 1999 series. They utilize weapons they probably have no training in using, poorly I might add. Tonpa, blindly swinging around a giant axe, cuts into the wall easily. Gon notices what happens and also takes notice that the walls are the same as the ones in Trick Tower. It looks as if Killua and Gon are about to join the fight, when the screen cuts out to the Trick Tower lobby.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/TonpaCrazy1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GonAxe2.jpg

This guy dies. His wound is on his back in the 1999 series, instead of in his gut.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/DeadManWalking1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/DeadManWalking2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/DeadManWalking3.jpg

Hisoka is waiting for Gon's group. He has a really generic line in the 1999 series while waiting for them ("I thought that boy had potential...Perhaps I overestimated him."). He's quiet in the manga/2011 series. Also, his wound is still present.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/HisoSulky1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/HisoSulky2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/HisoSulky3.jpg

Another divergence. In the 1999 series, the group passes by using Killua's skateboard and creating a raft somehow (what's supporting them? Wood from the weapon handles?). In the manga and 2011 series, three people exit first. You're unsure as to what happens at first, until it is revealed that Leorio and Tonpa passed too.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GroupExit1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GroupExit2.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/GroupExit3.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeoTon1.jpghttp://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa421/Toto_y_Moi/HunterXHunter12/LeoTon2.jpg

The number of contestants passing the Third Phase is different. 36 pass in the 1999 series, where as 25 pass (with one dying) in the manga and 2011 series.

Lippo's lackeys in the 1999 series see Gon's solution as cheating. Lippo remarks he would have never thought of it himself. But for a place so preoccupied with riddles, you would think that it was always a possibility. Lippo doesn't say these things in the manga (or 2011 series) at all. In the 1999 series, everyone steps outside to a view of the ocean. But when we saw them at the top of Trick Tower in episode 13, there was no water as far as the eyes could see. At the end of episode 17 of the Nippon Animation version, Lippo has the Hunter Association's airship take the applicants away.

Netero
January 16, 2012, 02:38 AM
My thoughts on episode 15

Episode 15 for me was... seriously the best episode out of the entire new anime so far. The animation was fantastic, the BGM fit with all the scenes, and it followed the manga perfectly! also the anime is finally!!! starting have more violence! I'm really excited to see the next episode.

Hisoka rape face FTW!
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/NJZanDatsuX/Hisoka.png?t=1326606381

---------- Post added January 16, 2012 at 02:38 AM ---------- Previous post was January 15, 2012 at 06:25 PM ----------

Thanks Uriel for posting these Gifs

This one is hilarious! and so random yet badass lol.
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtti52Wm91r4s8who2_r1_500.gif :ninja

~Andrew~
January 16, 2012, 04:51 AM
The New Episode was nice. Nearly all Episodes until now have been nice, but that's it, nice.
Well, Kil&Gon Vs Netero was my favorite in terms of animation.
I'm still waiting for the really badass Episodes, that's where we get to see Madhouse's true skills in animating HxH =3
I was happy in the beginning and this hasn't change, the Killuah-not-crushing-enemies-heart-thingy caused - 1 point in my rating, but since they announced the reduced violence I will not let this change my mind.
My current state of mind is : Still happy that there's a HxH Anime reboot, but It's too early to judge it. I don't know if Uriel already saw enough of Madhouse's Animation of HxH to judge it, but I will still wait. =3



Did Illumi with needles stuck in him always made these sounds while moving? I was a bit surprised that he sounded a bit like a robot xD

Uriel
January 16, 2012, 09:49 AM
Not yet, but I've to admit that I'm happy with it so far. I expected MUCH worse and I was nicely surprised by some thing. Still have to see a real fight to judge. Nen based. So I have time until that.

Anyway, Pop, can't wait for the other 2 reviews <3

Host Samurai
January 16, 2012, 01:11 PM
I really appreciate your comparison Popo and the thoughts that you're putting into it. But bashing the older series while praising the new one, will give some people the impression, who haven't watched the old anime, that the new anime is the overall superior one. Which clearly isn't. The old anime just like the new one aren't perfect they both have some flaws but calling the old anime a bishounen show is blasphemy for someone who enjoyed the show.

Are you basing your opinion on a DVD cover? Or the old anime entirely? Because I didn't see it that way. The DVD covers only serve one purpose, which is to appeal to the potential consumer. If fangirls are buying the Dvd's due to the cover, then so be it. The covers itself have nothing to do with the content of the anime. IMO the covers are no more then random drawings of the anime characters, who are appearing on the DVD.

Now to this weeks Episode. Episode 15 was indeed a good one, it started out slow but overall Madhouse did it justice. I personally liked the most in this episode when Gon blended in with his surroundings while observing Hisoka, this is something that the old anime didn't manage to do properly.

mrsticky005
January 16, 2012, 03:05 PM
I really appreciate your comparison Popo and the thoughts that you're putting into it. But bashing the older series while praising the new one, will give some people the impression, who haven't watched the old anime, that the new anime is the overall superior one. Which clearly isn't. The old anime just like the new one aren't perfect they both have some flaws but calling the old anime a bishounen show is blasphemy for someone who enjoyed the show.

Are you basing your opinion on a DVD cover? Or the old anime entirely? Because I didn't see it that way. The DVD covers only serve one purpose, which is to appeal to the potential consumer. If fangirls are buying the Dvd's due to the cover, then so be it. The covers itself have nothing to do with the content of the anime. IMO the covers are no more then random drawings of the anime characters, who are appearing on the DVD.

Now to this weeks Episode. Episode 15 was indeed a good one, it started out slow but overall Madhouse did it justice. I personally liked the most in this episode when Gon blended in with his surroundings while observing Hisoka, this is something that the old anime didn't manage to do properly.

Right now I say they are equal but I still think the new anime will surpass the old.

I mean if we can get more Killua and Gon vs Netero quality fights..:hee

Plus add that quality with the decrease in censorship :zomg

Host Samurai
January 17, 2012, 05:35 AM
Right now I say they are equal but I still think the new anime will surpass the old.

I mean if we can get more Killua and Gon vs Netero quality fights..:hee

Plus add that quality with the decrease in censorship :zomg

I think it's the opposite right now. Original series is as of now still superior to the new one. The old anime aired when the manga was still on going back then, that's why I understand their use of fillers because they were close of catching up to the manga. But this one...:gwah

Uriel
January 17, 2012, 06:10 AM
They used just one filler and it was due holidays which is completely understandable. :/ They cut stuff, but I don't care since I don't think Hunter Exam is the best arc of HxH. If they want rating, they must pace up as they did.

Popo
January 17, 2012, 04:21 PM
I really appreciate your comparison Popo and the thoughts that you're putting into it. But bashing the older series while praising the new one, will give some people the impression, who haven't watched the old anime, that the new anime is the overall superior one. Which clearly isn't. The old anime just like the new one aren't perfect they both have some flaws but calling the old anime a bishounen show is blasphemy for someone who enjoyed the show.

Are you basing your opinion on a DVD cover? Or the old anime entirely? Because I didn't see it that way. The DVD covers only serve one purpose, which is to appeal to the potential consumer. If fangirls are buying the Dvd's due to the cover, then so be it. The covers itself have nothing to do with the content of the anime. IMO the covers are no more then random drawings of the anime characters, who are appearing on the DVD.
Though I posted pictures of the DVD covers, I actually do mean the content. Many people might assume that I don't like the 1999 series, but it's always been one of my favorite anime series.

Prior to Madhouse's adaptation, I would have thought it to be a very faithful one. However, doing these comparisons has forced me to re-read the manga and re-watch the 1999 series with an extremely watchful eye. I have to pay about as much attention to every single panel as I would a page, which gives me a bit of a better understanding of HxH than I used to have.

Since I can understand Japanese significantly better from when I first read the series, there's also differences in language between the 1999 series and manga that have become as plain as day to me now. But a casual reader won't recognize these, due to the most easily accessed translation being an inaccurate scanlation translated from French instead of Japanese.

I haven't gone into too much detail about the specific line changes between the manga and anime, nor have I gotten too explicit regarding some of the problems I've found with the 1999 series. This is largely due to my own convenience and time--I have a life and it has nothing to do with HxH.

I'd be willing to explain thoroughly what I mean by calling the 1999 series a "bishonen show," but it would take a long while for me to detail both context and evidence. And let's be real here--how many people actually read my walls of text?

Host Samurai
January 17, 2012, 07:59 PM
Though I posted pictures of the DVD covers, I actually do mean the content. Many people might assume that I don't like the 1999 series, but it's always been one of my favorite anime series.

Prior to Madhouse's adaptation, I would have thought it to be a very faithful one. However, doing these comparisons has forced me to re-read the manga and re-watch the 1999 series with an extremely watchful eye. I have to pay about as much attention to every single panel as I would a page, which gives me a bit of a better understanding of HxH than I used to have.

Since I can understand Japanese significantly better from when I first read the series, there's also differences in language between the 1999 series and manga that have become as plain as day to me now. But a casual reader won't recognize these, due to the most easily accessed translation being an inaccurate scanlation translated from French instead of Japanese.

I haven't gone into too much detail about the specific line changes between the manga and anime, nor have I gotten too explicit regarding some of the problems I've found with the 1999 series. This is largely due to my own convenience and time--I have a life and it has nothing to do with HxH.

I'd be willing to explain thoroughly what I mean by calling the 1999 series a "bishonen show," but it would take a long while for me to detail both context and evidence. And let's be real here--how many people actually read my walls of text?

Well, I will be waiting patiently. Because I did enjoy watching the show and have like many others high expectations regarding the remake.

Just take your time with it. As I have already said, I'll wait patiently for it. We all have a life outside manga that's why you don't need to feel 'pressured' by me. Since you're doing a great job already with your comparisons.

About the walls of text, I do like reading them. :D
It gives me, a non native english speaker the urge to write one as well. And this way I can improve my english even further that's why it's fun to discuss in here despite our differences we manage to keep it civil.

Uriel
January 17, 2012, 08:04 PM
Just to because must be said, I deeply enjoy your texts, Popo. I even look forward them.

~Andrew~
January 18, 2012, 01:50 AM
Not yet, but I've to admit that I'm happy with it so far. I expected MUCH worse and I was nicely surprised by some thing. Still have to see a real fight to judge. Nen based. So I have time until that.

They used just one filler and it was due holidays which is completely understandable. :/ They cut stuff, but I don't care since I don't think Hunter Exam is the best arc of HxH. If they want rating, they must pace up as they did.

Lol I like how we've got the same point of view regarding HxH from before the start til now :D

I wanted to write more, but I have to go now! later guys

Edit: Well, here I am, again..

Illumi's Needle Transformation was badass.
But my question still stands: The sounds he's making while moving in needle-state...was it always like this? He sounds like a Robot of some kind lol.

I also wanted to say that I like it when people compare screens/scenes from the old anime with screens/scenes from the new Anime plus showing the Manga and which Anime did a Chapter 1:1 to the Manga or is closer to the Manga.

You Guys should make you own Threads with Old,New Anime and Manga comparisons and another one for Recaps/Reviews for each Episodes.
Because I would read every posting and give it a like or even a thanks. Or do both things in one Thread, I hope you'll decide to do that =3


And do we already have a Thread for current Episode and with Stream/Torrent Links kinda like in Naruto's section?
That would be awesome, too.

Uriel
January 18, 2012, 05:15 PM
This is a multipurpose thread. For now I prefer this way since we're low on activity and there are not so much users here right now. I'm sure there will be an increase, but I need to do some things first.

mrsticky005
January 18, 2012, 07:15 PM
For those who actually like the music from the new series

http://www.youtube.com/user/HunterXHunterHXH?feature=watch#p/c/C954F451735A8DC7/0/Pk4Rvqyxcw4

(though it looks like just 4 tracks; the opening in both vocal and instrumental, one music track, the ending.)

Hamy
January 18, 2012, 11:31 PM
I'd be willing to explain thoroughly what I mean by calling the 1999 series a "bishonen show," but it would take a long while for me to detail both context and evidence. And let's be real here--how many people actually read my walls of text?

*groan* Damn it I lost my post curse you backspace key ~_~

Gist of my post since I am not in the mood to retype that wall of text.

A) Bishounen show how can you expect otherwise in terms of that given that HXH is a product of the period which was defined heavily by a bishounen vibe (e.g. Fuushigi Yuugi, Rurouni Kenshin, Weiss Kreuz, etc) that it would be silly to consider otherwise. However it did deviate from the norm in that...

B) It was the most 'faithful' of anime adaptations during the period and even went used OVAs to supplement missing content due to chapters and releases.

C) No duh pacing would be slower given that they sure as hell had far less chapters to work with, of course this also went in line with Nippon Animation pacing in general. But whether it is an aesthetic choice or not doesn't change the fact that they more or less would have to use a much slower pace given that they did aim for more fidelity than the rest of the animes, and were not necessarily chock full of fillers. The new one has a bulk more of chapters to work with, but surprisingly not THAT far ahead of NA given that we only have the ant arc added (yay for Togashi and his hiatus). Still more stable though compared to worrying about whether you'll catch up with Togashi or not.

D) Its apples and oranges to compare stills of the new and old anime details given that production values from that period AND studio are vastly different. Moreover, stills NEVER tell the true story of something in a MOVING IMAGE (i.e. the value added of an anime) that what may seem like a big deal in a still because you notice all these small things is actually just a very short timespan that more often than not we won't notice due to the time. Moreover, the point of anime production values of both 1999 & 2011 were that they sure as hell are still an improvement over the manga art, but lets face it not very many manga start out 'pretty' or 'well drawn' in the earlier chapters. But HXH in particular was never that good in terms of the art department. Sure they're imaginative at times but that doesn't translate to clean or polished the way both animes add value to the artstyle. Sure there are few instances, ant arc may have upped the ante, but by and large that is not the norm.

E) Speaking of detail I do question at times the amount of emphasis people put on comparing again scenes that are apples and oranges given that the 1999 & 2011 had very different emphasis on certain scenes. Case and point is the Hisoka fight scene at the prison tower clearly 1999 did not emphasis on it much since guy was just fodder while 2011 is praised for making it stylistic. In retrospect how big of a deal was that scene actually? Honestly it was pretty forgettable both in manga and 1999 adaptation only the 2011 decided to use it to show off what they could do but is it necessarily the case that they'd be doing that at everything - I can't tell not enough episodes to judge. Point is though they brought attention to something that never necessarily precluded it in the first place. So that we do have an apples and oranges scenario.

Original post was different but this would be the gist of it. I'm not trying to be an apologist but I'm just not happy with the comparisons being done. One thing I do have a qualm with this adaptation so far is that I’m just not seeing much value added in the animation department. While its nice and all to be faithful I’m not really too fond of adaptations where the director doesn’t really try to infuse their own style into the material. A good comparison would be Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei 1st season VS Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, both are good but I’d easily pick out Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei 1st season over FMA:Brotherhood for the reason that I do like how the director still managed to put himself into the material rather than the other one where I really don’t see the director at all but a very solid yet safe adaptation of the work. I think that as both a viewer and reader that this is one factor to consider, so far I’m seeing this as a pretty safe adaptation for both good and bad.

~Andrew~
January 19, 2012, 02:33 AM
This is a multipurpose thread. For now I prefer this way since we're low on activity and there are not so much users here right now. I'm sure there will be an increase, but I need to do some things first.
Ah, I see. But you get my point, right? When the time comes it may be better the way I said, but this HxH section is still young and it needs time to grow, I totally forgot that. Well, I'm sure you'll do just fine =3

mrsticky005
January 22, 2012, 04:05 AM
Episode 16 was brilliant. :D

Creepy Hisoka is Creepy!

hokageji
January 22, 2012, 06:46 AM
If I ever had doubts of which series was better, its cleared today. Hikosa getting excited for a kill was way better in the new one... the way things are going, i expect it to be way better.... and hopefully, it will make the insect arc look better too

TemplateR
January 22, 2012, 07:16 AM
Some new news about the upcoming arcs in the anime

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-6745.html

Somebody hasn´t tranlated it, but make a little summary of that:


From what I could make out with the director for the anime says the real fun is yet to come or something. The problem of the how dark the series gets and making it acceptable for the time slot it's in is brought up, but the director says he wants to remain as close to the atmosphere of the original anime/manga as possible. I do see something about the atmosphere drastically changing with the introduction of the Genei Ryodan.

Divinenega
January 22, 2012, 08:50 AM
This was a pretty awesome episode. I loved Hisoka's epic rape face after talking with Kurapica and Leorio, and he looked pretty insane when he went in for the kill like that. Was kinda sad Hisoka didn't have the dude's head like in the manga but at least we got to see him dead and it would have been a bit much for the timeslot...

One thing I found interesting though was the thing with the butterfly being trapped in the web since I know that wasn't in the manga. I thought it was a pretty interesting metaphor to the kind of situation Gon is in now thanks to Hisoka letting him live...

Salce
January 22, 2012, 09:21 AM
Some new news about the upcoming arcs in the anime

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-6745.html

Somebody hasn´t tranlated it, but make a little summary of that: From what I could make out with the director for the anime says the real fun is yet to come or something. The problem of the how dark the series gets and making it acceptable for the time slot it's in is brought up, but the director says he wants to remain as close to the atmosphere of the original anime/manga as possible. I do see something about the atmosphere drastically changing with the introduction of the Genei Ryodan.
Popo translated it, and put it in Narutoforums, :


Hunter × Hunter Anime Director: "I'm happy to hear the general response to the new series, criticism included. From here is where it starts to get really interesting"

Anime Questionnaire: "Hunter × Hunter" From here is where it starts to get really interesting

Tell me, what's the series about and what's so charming about it?

The main character, Gon, after being abandoned by his own father, has yearned to become a "Hunter." Since aiming towards the job, he meets various people and overcomes many trials; it's a coming of age story. Its principles of morality and views on "bad things" are much different from the norm. It's also become a profound work in which a lot of characters can enter the story and each speak in ways incredibly deep.

When adapting the work into animation, what essence of the series was the most important to depict?

Because the original manga first started being published 13 years ago and since the first Hunter x Hunter animated series ended 7 years ago, we made this series because we wanted people who don't know about "Hunter x Hunter" (especially children) to see its charm. Of course, we've had to avoid some grotesque imagery. However, we were especially careful not to ruin the atmosphere present in the original work.

What makes you happiest about being able to create this work? And the opposite--is there anything difficult about it?
Since the original work is fairly well known, sometimes I get comments after it's been animated. I've been quite happy to hear the general response to the new series, criticism included; I feel as if it's a difficult work to do again. I'm a bit worried as to whether or not we'll have to alter the unavoidable grotesque imagery from hereafter.

Please leave a brief message for the readers.
In the Hunter Exam arc, Gon at his core seems like he'd belong in a typical Shonen anime series. But after the Zoldyck Family and the Phantom Troupe are introduced, the ambiance changes. And I think from here is where it starts to get really interesting. I would be happy if you would watch the show with a long-term view.

Uriel
January 22, 2012, 12:26 PM
Music was particularly good this chapter. The one in the exact moment when Gon caught it gave me chills.
This was an above average chapter, IMHO. Not so good in terms of "action" but still intense enough.

Crude
January 22, 2012, 01:15 PM
The rape face looked even better than the one in the preview! Great episode, especially the face-off between Gon and Hisoka. I still think this episode, as well as the previous ones, felt a little slow but maybe that's just me.

hunted
January 22, 2012, 02:48 PM
good ep ...
i think they use face of hisoka from the last chapters
when he hiding him self from killua and illume ..