The Breaker : New Waves 46 Discussion

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[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Hmm, there's a message at Daum concerning chapter 46:

될 거 같습니다.. 사정상 원고작업을 늦게 들어가서 적은 페이지임에도 불구하고 늦은 원고마감이 될 거 같습니다 독자여러분의 양해 바랍니다 ㅠㅠ;

... From what the translation says on google, I assume he's saying that the chapter will have fewer pages today?

[kidopitz27]

it seems the spoiler front cover is late :(

[Bludvein]

it seems the spoiler front cover is late :(

The front cover is only sometimes. Its not something he posts every week.


Hmm, there's a message at Daum concerning chapter 46:

될 거 같습니다.. 사정상 원고작업을 늦게 들어가서 적은 페이지임에도 불구하고 늦은 원고마감이 될 거 같습니다 독자여러분의 양해 바랍니다 ㅠㅠ;

... From what the translation says on google, I assume he's saying that the chapter will have fewer pages today?

Because of certain issues he started late on the manuscript. There will be fewer pages than normal and it won't be out til about 8pm local korea time.

I assume it has something to do with the special chapter mentioned last week, as well as the work on the volume cover.

[Iti]

The Breaker NW 46 http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/13649

[Asvard]

waiting ChaoticKen with his summary =)

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Wonderful, Jinie gets herself out her her pinch!

And Jigun calls for the cavalry, but... Will Sera answer the phone? If she does, does it mean we'll see a Gothic Loli VD Kuudere match? XD

Or maybe she'll be calling Ha-Ill...?

[ChaoticKen]

Normally I don't bother with summaries after I get off work but whatever, here I am.


Basic fighting stuff between Jini and Bitch. Jini realizes that fighting in public could result in civilians getting hurt.

Owner asks Professional YeRi for his phone.

JiGun and some dude are trying to access SUC information. But the chips that JiGun brings in (presumably belonging to SUC members he beat the shit out of) are blocked from access to the higher-level information. Glasses says that unless they have a password chip of a higher level he can't get to the information. This is the 14th chip that JiGun has brought it. Also, Glasses says that the SUC server has like Pentagon-level management or something.

JiGun gets call from Owner. Owner says he didn't expect SUC to do something like that in broad daylight. Also, he says that they're after Jini. JiGun realizes Jini is in danger. Also, he doesn't know how SUC managed to find the cafe.

ShiWoon wants to talk to his mother. He hasn't been in contact with her for 2 weeks or something. SeRa's Butler dude tells ShiWoon that since he's in training, he shouldn't be distracted by the outside world. ShiWoon is still hesitant, so SeRa says that she'll let him meet / taker him to his mother. Or bring his mother over. Or something like that.

Butler expresses doubt and believes that SeRa should tell the truth to ShiWoon since the truth will be harder to tell the longer time passes, but SeRa says that this chance to become stronger is rare and that if ShiWoon's mind loses focus or something it'll be hard to get it back.

SeRa gets call from JiGun. He wants to know if she's able to contact ShiWoon.

[kidopitz27]

hmmmm... interesting so Shioon's mom is either in coma(the hospital part where Sera said that Shioon should not be bothered) or missing or worst dead......

[hopeandlight]

hmmmm... interesting so Shioon's mom is either in coma(the hospital part where Sera said that Shioon should not be bothered) or missing or worst dead......
maybe shioon just can't be with his mother, as he is Murim
Let's stay on the bright day ^V^ ( hmm then again some angst would be good ...)

[Miles]

Looks like something has happened to Shiion mother.

The SUC leader has given to Shiion an encoded chip in chapter 35 probably exactly what JiGun is searching :D

[bighawke5]

hmmmm... interesting so Shioon's mom is either in coma(the hospital part where Sera said that Shioon should not be bothered) or missing or worst dead......

You're totally spot on! Plus somehow Ji-gun will talk to Shioon and find out He has the passcard given to him by a top of S.U.C on roof top. This will allow them to access info.( meaning a team up with ShiOon and Ji-gun is more than likely)

I knew that it was Shioon's mother since that time they mentioned in previous chapters that someone close to him was in the hospital. I'm pretty sure she's in a coma because if she were dead, it wouldnt be as much a distraction, more like a catalyst to push him for revenge, which isnt a distraction, but instead a focus.

THUS she has to be in a coma-in critical state, THAT IS MORE of a distraction because then shiiwon would worry about her and want to see her, instead of focusing on his training.

THIS TO ME can go either way, where in one way, she's dead and the manhwa creator makes it similar to how 9AD lost his master---THUS giving shioon the anger and focus necessary to take down S.U.C. Or...

in another way, she survives and shioon somehow hears of this and looses focus of training wants to see her (So Sera deems it a distraction and kills his mother secretly) which sends shioon into anger after been told by sera it was S.U.C or something...

[kidopitz27]

in another way, she survives and shioon somehow hears of this and looses focus of training wants to see her (So Sera deems it a distraction and kills his mother secretly) which sends shioon into anger after been told by sera it was S.U.C or something...[/B]

Sera would not do that remember what the old granny said to Sera? she said that he want to break the bonds of her former masters from the curse of GMR that means if Shioon discovers that Sera's Clan killed his mother then they will feel the wrath of another Dragon :)

[Asvard]

JiGun say to Jinie few chapter ago about attack SUC to airport.
I think Shioon's mother was in airport...

[NAM61]

so it seems shiwoons mother is the one injured or worse. and nice to see jinnie save herself. and jigun and he wants to talk to shiwoon maybe he will somehow make it to the cafe if sera gives him the phone

[bighawke5]

Sera would not do that remember what the old granny said to Sera? she said that he want to break the bonds of her former masters from the curse of GMR that means if Shioon discovers that Sera's Clan killed his mother then they will feel the wrath of another Dragon :)

i can understand that, but as long as shioon doesn't find out its all good in her mind. my guess is she's going to blame S.U.C anyways and they'll be no way for him to know, probably until part 3 of the manga. She has people that can keep the info hidden well secret and make it look like the S.U.C did it..

i think her death(Shioon's mom) has to happen for him to trully become indepandant and have a resolve greater than anything, that plus wanting to teach S.U.C that his master is the way he(shioon) knows him, not the one they(S.U.C) make him out to be...

then again i dont think the creator is willing to go that "dark" yet for shioon...

[Hiro Hayase]

i can understand that, but as long as shioon doesn't find out its all good in her mind. my guess is she's going to blame S.U.C anyways and they'll be no way for him to know, probably until part 3 of the manga. She has people that can keep the info hidden well secret and make it look like the S.U.C did it..

i think her death(Shioon's mom) has to happen for him to trully become indepandant and have a resolve greater than anything, that plus wanting to teach S.U.C that his master is the way he(shioon) knows him, not the one they(S.U.C) make him out to be...

then again i dont think the creator is willing to go that "dark" yet for shioon...

I highly doubt that 'dark' path will ever be taken for Shioon. But perhaps another character can be the catalyst for Shioon's anger like Shiho (maybe thats why she's being revived by the author's devices; exactly for that role). Although, Shioon is generally not the type to go into a fit of rage on any individual because he didn't learn martial arts to oppress others, but only for self-defense.

So as long as Jinie's wearing a maid outfit, we get panty shots... And Shioon has that high level password card from SUC, which makes me wonder if he gave it to Shioon fully knowing his personality. I think it might be a trap, giving false information... My impression of the SUC's top leader is that of a skilled tactician... launching all these proxy wars using his pawns might be a distraction to mislead others away while he attains his true objective. As a tactician myself, that's how I feel.

It was strongly hinted in earlier chapters that the person was who was in a critical state is Shioon's mother, so I'm not surprised. I expect the worse regarding Shioon's mothers condition...just in case. However, Shioon is not as innocent as Sera believes him to be, I suspect Shioon will start harboring doubts now...

[hopeandlight]

uwaaaaa, seriously shioon's mother as the suc head!

[nanoclarkology]

The chapter was good. Jinie on the run, Shioon worried about his mom. I kind of hope that his mom dies. Even at the hands of the SUC. I think GMR will come back to the light after Shiho is revived. Or I truly feel way, way down the road that Shioon is going to confront GMR and that Shiho is going to step in and take a hit for him.

As for this chapter several others have touched on a few key things.

Chip that Shioon has
Mother in coma
Sera worried about Shioon losing focus (which I highly doubt he would be more motivated to protect everyone including his mother. He would understand that as he is now he could not defeat the SUC)
Ji-Gun phone call to Sera
Jinie getting free

I think it was short as some have already pointed out why. Let's hope that Shioon can get his ki-center back soon. I wonder does he still run and do the physical stuff too. I remember GMR telling him to train everyday.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Hmm, Sera may well be making a big mistake by not telling Shioon the truth. It's obvious why she doesn't though:

1. Sera doesn't know Shioon - She doesn't yet know that he hates it when people lie or hide things from him.
2. Sera is, obviously... Thinking like a Murim (Get stronger first, secondary problems like family next, especilly if the later may hamper the process of beoming stronger). But Shioon doesn't think like a Murim, he's just a normal kid with powers usually only Murim have, after all.

Ah well, will be interesting to see what happens next. I'm not sure whether Sera will notify Shioon, by she may well come herself... Gothic LÖolita VS Kuudere :D .

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Well it looks like Shioon is going to team up with Ji-Gun at some point soon. Looks like the access card one of the leaders gave to Shioon is going to benefit Ji-Gun because otherwise there would have been no point in showing that little exchange between the leader and Shioon. Wow so many pictures of Jinie in her underwear and from so many angles! XDDDD. I really hope Shioon gets a sparring partner at some point like Ji-Gun or someone of equal or better level. It would be a good way from him to use techniques he has learned and a way to perfect his fighting form.

[bighawke5]

Wait, why is Ji-gun asking for shioon? its the last person i thought he'd ask for in such a situation...

plus its not like he knows shioon has the key card, nor that he can fight with ki for brief periods...so its weird he's asking for him..

i would have thought he'd instead ask for the girl's help or go himself...

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Wait, why is Ji-gun asking for shioon? its the last person i thought he'd ask for in such a situation...

i would have thought he'd instead ask for the girl's help or go himself...

Well, Ji-Gun is apparently VERY short on allies at the moment, so maybe he simply has no one else but Shioon to turn to for now. Besides.. He may or may not know about Shioon's connection to the Sunwoo clan, but if he does, him asking makes a bit more sense, maybe.

[k-dom]

It seems he asked for Shion after he wondered how the SUC knew about the café. Can someone have betrayed him even so I don't see the relation with Shion?

[thornofcarrion]

I have always suspected Shioon's mother. She was always busy and how she was brought in the plot few times, I knew something is up to her. Does she belong to any of the faction? Its will definitely add a new twist to the story. The biggest question will be her standing. I mean, will she be standing against Shioon and what he believes or the opposite. I know, I am concluding it too early. Nevertheless, its a possibility.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I think Ji-Gun is asking for Shioon to tell her about Jinie, since he knows that she is on the run now. Plus Ji-Gun knows that Shioon and Jinie are pretty close. I have a feeling Shioon is going to go looking for Jinie within the next couple of chapters. He is going to insist that he go out and look for her and I don't think he is going to sit still on this matter.

@thornofcarrion: I always wondered about what Shioon's mother did since her job always consumed a lot of time and she was never home. Many people have posted that she might work for Murim in some way. It would make sense if she was a part of Murim that would explain why Shioon is such a fast learner. I also hope we get some info about his father at some point down the road. How weird would it be if his dad followed Goomoonryong back in the day or that they were friends? But thornofcarrion I think you correct in assuming there is something up with Shioon's mother.

[kidopitz27]

if sera will not tell Shioon about her mother someone will and at the same time Ji-Gun is asking for Shioon why Jinie is avoiding Shioon and Shioon tells him that she went missing and Ji-Gun tells Shioon that S.U.C is attacking her and then Shioon will ask where Jinie is and Saves Jinie and they comeback at Sunwoo and then Shioon will excuse himself because he wants to talk/meet her mother and then the elders will tell Shioon what happened on her mother :)

[svyatoslav]

Something tells me that once he finds out about his mother, we'll see an elaboration of that volume cover 'dragon breaking restraints' sketch from the blog, but probably in a more directed and less chaotic way than his teacher's.

[ChaoticKen]

My predictions, since I felt like posting my predictions for once.

JiGun asks SeRa to see if she can find ShiWoon since he wants ShiWoon's help because 1) he's seen ShiWoon's determination and 2) because he's unaware of the situation between Jini and ShiWoon and will be under the impression that ShiWoon will be more than willing to help Jini out.

SeRa instead says ShiWoon can't (her excuse being training or her not knowing where ShiWoon is) but she will tell JiGun that she knows somebody who can help and then call HaIl who will rush over to find Jini.

Or such and such.

Also, sorry, can't translate this week, gonna be moving on Friday.

EDIT: Also I think this thing about ShiWoon's mother having any significance other than "plot device" is fairly moot.

[Charlie]

My predictions, since I felt like posting my predictions for once.

JiGun asks SeRa to see if she can find ShiWoon since he wants ShiWoon's help because 1) he's seen ShiWoon's determination and 2) because he's unaware of the situation between Jini and ShiWoon and will be under the impression that ShiWoon will be more than willing to help Jini out.

SeRa instead says ShiWoon can't (her excuse being training or her not knowing where ShiWoon is) but she will tell JiGun that she knows somebody who can help and then call HaIl who will rush over to find Jini.

Or such and such.

Also, sorry, can't translate this week, gonna be moving on Friday.

Nice prediction, I can see that happening and good luck with the move. I was thinking with another reason behind Ji-gun asking Sera for help from Shi woon. My thoughts were that since he knows now that Shi woon is the head of the Sun Woo clan. He figures that if Sera tells Shi Woon that he and Jini needs help, he will call the Sunwoo clan for backup.

The old man, once he hears about his granddaughter being in trouble, will hot hesitate to help out his granddaughter (at least I think this ways since she's in trouble).

---------- Post added at 08:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------


EDIT: Also I think this thing about ShiWoon's mother having any significance other than "plot device" is fairly moot.This will setup the reason for Shi Woon to take down the S.U.C or confront his master.

Edit - the clash of dragons. :drool

[thornofcarrion]

I wonder how will Shioon act when he finds out that Sera was holding back information about his mother from him. I don't see him trust her anymore. Unless, there is really a rational reason, significant enough to benefit Shioon.


Also I think this thing about ShiWoon's mother having any significance other than "plot device" is fairly moot.

Don't you think if someone like Sera is talking about her and trying to conceal information about Shioon's mother - a momentous reasoning?

[Charlie]

I wonder how will Shioon act when he finds out that Sera was holding back information about his mother from him. I don't see him trust her anymore. Unless, there is really a rational reason, significant enough to benefit Shioon.



Don't you think if someone like Sera is talking about her and trying to conceal information about Shioon's mother - a momentous reasoning?

It would really make me glee in nerdy fanboy-ism if Shi Woon does this (http://images.wikia.com/thebreaker/images/a/ac/Phoenix.jpg) in his rage or anger mode and then without realizing starts the black origins threshold.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110413171747/thebreaker/images/1/1a/BlackH%26E.jpg (http://thebreaker.wikia.com/index.php?title=Black_Heaven_and_Earth_Technique&image=BlackH-26E-jpg)

I can still hope. :p

[ChaoticKen]

I think I mentioned this before, but I believe what's going on with ShiWoon's mother is that she is hurt. Mainly because the end of Chapter 39 has SeRa and one of her men talking about someone who's been taken into the hospital who's condition is "hard to determine". If not ShiWoon's mother I see no idea who else it could be, with perhaps the exception of SeHui or whatever that girl's name was that he was classmates with.

My guess at the moment is that the SunWoo elder ordered her to be taken out or something for fairly obvious reasons - if her son disappears, the mother might go to the cops or start prying or something. ShiWoon mentions in Chapter 39 that his mother hasn't been answering the phone calls since "a couple of days ago". Which means a day or possibly two before Jini received the orders to take ShiWoon out after he unexpectedly survived his fight against JiGun. Elder was probably tying up loose ends.

Could I be wrong? Probably. But if I'm wrong I'd probably be wrong on who ordered the attack and not the person who's in the hospital.

That is, at the very least, what I believe.

SeRa concealing information on ShiWoon's mother makes sense. If he knows that his mother has been grievously injured, he could either go batshit insane or get crushed by depression, or maybe rage. Regardless, he wouldn't be able to focus on his training, which is what SeRa wants more than anything at the moment.

[thornofcarrion]

I think I mentioned this before, but I believe what's going on with ShiWoon's mother is that she is hurt. Mainly because the end of Chapter 39 has SeRa and one of her men talking about someone who's been taken into the hospital who's condition is "hard to determine". If not ShiWoon's mother I see no idea who else it could be, with perhaps the exception of SeHui or whatever that girl's name was that he was classmates with.

My guess at the moment is that the SunWoo elder ordered her to be taken out or something for fairly obvious reasons - if her son disappears, the mother might go to the cops or start prying or something. ShiWoon mentions in Chapter 39 that his mother hasn't been answering the phone calls since "a couple of days ago". Which means a day or possibly two before Jini received the orders to take ShiWoon out after he unexpectedly survived his fight against JiGun. Elder was probably tying up loose ends.

Could I be wrong? Probably. But if I'm wrong I'd probably be wrong on who ordered the attack and not the person who's in the hospital.

That is, at the very least, what I believe.

SeRa concealing information on ShiWoon's mother makes sense. If he knows that his mother has been grievously injured, he could either go batshit insane or get crushed by depression, or maybe rage. Regardless, he wouldn't be able to focus on his training, which is what SeRa wants more than anything at the moment.

I totally forgot about that and no, your dialogue makes complete sense. It very well be the reason for what Sera said. Shioon should lose his composure if such information reached him during the training. If that is the case, Sera is taking a giant risk, if something happens to his mother, Shioon wont let it slide against Sera or the elder.

[Charlie]

I forgot to bring this point up before but anyone notice the similarities between these two techniques?

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/46/7

&

http://www.mangareader.net/530-40421-16/the-breaker/chapter-42.html