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[Zangetsu01]

Chinese Scanlation chapter 336
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1284656267

[suarhnir]

oyos

i may be completely wrong but it looks like they are going to go through with the rest of the tournament...

[leiyooh]

there goes the expected 2v2

[warbandit66]

Why though? Those regular riders don't want it with Ikki or Sora.

[Carnevil]

Why though? Those regular riders don't want it with Ikki or Sora.

OG needs the money so he's going to drag this manga out for as long as he can. It's not like OG can have any of these teams give Ikki any trouble he's got a regalia equal to the Sky Regalia so what's the point beyond him needing money.

The other thing I noticed is the people supporting Sora, it's a sad fact but that's exactly what would happen to. All a dictator has to do is tell the people who are downtrodden that he'll help them and they'll be on his side. Happened in Germany when Adolf Hitler took power, he promised to give Germany back its pride.

[suarhnir]

oyos

i have a feeling as the gst resumes, the people will see a bit of the evilness of sora or be inspired by ikki and his 'anyone can do it if they really tried' aura and realize that you should work for your happiness/freedom not have it handed to you on a silver platter.

also, that thing on rika's neck... i think that explains why when she reunited with sora, she said how she wanted to kill him but doesn't want to anymore... i think the gazelle we all know (the same as currently in agito) is being subdued by that device.

[ikkixringo]

so does this mean the battle will start next time or am i missing something

[Carnevil]

so does this mean the battle will start next time or am i missing something

Nope, we're most likely going to see another 20 chapters of Ikki fighting the other teams in the GST.

[warbandit66]

I'm sure that earlier on in the manga it was stated that there where rules and regulations that meant both sides had to have an equal amount on team members. Or is that just for "Cube" matches?

[Onibasu]

I'm sure that earlier on in the manga it was stated that there where rules and regulations that meant both sides had to have an equal amount on team members. Or is that just for "Cube" matches?


I believe that was just for the cube matches but it would make sense that the teams should have the same amount of members for the GST as well.

[Carnevil]

I'm sure that earlier on in the manga it was stated that there where rules and regulations that meant both sides had to have an equal amount on team members. Or is that just for "Cube" matches?

Because OG has never changed the rules to fit the situation.

[warbandit66]

But the entire nature of Air Trek battles is that they're team based unless Sora and Ikki are going to race at the end.

[ikkixringo]

great more battles but at least air gear will last longer that way

[DragonOsman2]

oyos

i have a feeling as the gst resumes, the people will see a bit of the evilness of sora or be inspired by ikki and his 'anyone can do it if they really tried' aura and realize that you should work for your happiness/freedom not have it handed to you on a silver platter.

also, that thing on rika's neck... i think that explains why when she reunited with sora, she said how she wanted to kill him but doesn't want to anymore... i think the gazelle we all know (the same as currently in agito) is being subdued by that device.

Um, Rika was born with the Virgin Blade inside of her, right? I know Dr. Minami referred to it as "Gazelle's Virgin Blade," but that could just be because she was the first one to have had it. I don't think it means that she actually has Gazelle inside of her. The only one we know of who has Gazelle inside of him is Akito/Agito. And that's Lind, who I think would be better off being called Gazelle's male reincarnation.

But I don't get why the GST can continue, even though the main prize for it, the Sky Regalia, was already taken. What's the point?

[Carnevil]

But the entire nature of Air Trek battles is that they're team based unless Sora and Ikki are going to race at the end.

It was 7 vs 2 when Sora fought SF. So it OG has already changed the rules.

[suarhnir]

Um, Rika was born with the Virgin Blade inside of her, right? I know Dr. Minami referred to it as "Gazelle's Virgin Blade," but that could just be because she was the first one to have had it. I don't think it means that she actually has Gazelle inside of her. The only one we know of who has Gazelle inside of him is Akito/Agito. And that's Lind, who I think would be better off being called Gazelle's male reincarnation.

oyos

rika wasn't 'born' with the virgin blade... she was the back-up copy of gazelle. in the gazelle flashback, sora mentions how there was a 'back-up' and later minami mentions how sora figured out the 'virgin blade' was in rika. then when rika meets sora before fighting sf, she talks about how she wanted to kill sora but for some reason can't do it... you have to connect the dots... only gazelle wants to kill sora between rika and gazelle.

also, about the rules on number of team members... the only 'rule' in regards to having a certain number of team members was that a new team having a minimum of 5 people... obviously that isn't the case as we have teams like sleipnir, jiggy and lionheart who are lacking the minimum. there are a few other teams that look like they are less than 5 too within the gst. as to how many can fight in a team match, is acceptable to only put out 1 player even (like how agito often fought team battles solo)

[Exis10]

Maybe I misunderstood but I saw [Run] word before end of the chapter. Isn't it that Ikki challenge Sora to fight in GST rule? To 'Run' down from the top of the tower to the ground.

I can't read Japanese so I'm not sure.

[suarhnir]

Maybe I misunderstood but I saw [Run] word before end of the chapter. Isn't it that Ikki challenge Sora to fight in GST rule? To 'Run' down from the top of the tower to the ground.

I can't read Japanese so I'm not sure.

oyos

well the 'run' part was in english... hmm, we do see rika right behind ikki and ringo, so it might be the case. though here's a great and wonderful idea for ikki: when he gets to the bottom, he should destroy the tower at the base. he's got an uber regalia that easily blew past the defenses of the tower, so aside from huge collateral damage from a falling tower, what is there really to stop ikki from doing that? i would assume that the tower functions as the 'transmitter' of controlling all the a-t technology so if that is gone, then really it's just the regalia left.

if ikki is going along with this (since it looks like sora suggested the 'run' option), i have a feeling that ikki is going to work on removing that device on rika's neck during this. that would at least take away the last 'pawn' of sora.

[Drylick]

Oh I see. I really can't understand chinese so I really don't have a clue of what they're talking about. Haha. So that explains why Ikki and Ringo went down the tower (atleast it looks like it). I was surprised, like, oi why did they went down the tower!? Aargh, just when I thought we would see the two Kings and Queens fight, they delayed it. Anyway, who suggested that the GST be continued?

If it would be that way, what would happen to Ringo? Sleeping Forest already lost the battle against Genesis. SF and Kogarasumaru merging? Hmm...

Anyway, I also can't find a reason why GST would continue. Man! There would be no team that will seriously think to go against these two teams. I mean, if you have a team, and you're the leader of that team, would you seriously consider challenging even one of these two teams? Kazu alone would burn them all.

And what's with the BOO? Did Sora's speech on the previous chapter worked? Hmm..




if ikki is going along with this (since it looks like sora suggested the 'run' option), i have a feeling that ikki is going to work on removing that device on rika's neck during this. that would at least take away the last 'pawn' of sora.

I doubt it. I think it would be a 2 on 2 fight between the two Kings and Queens. :)

[DragonOsman2]

Just call them "Kings". It's easier that way. Notice that the manga also does the same, even in the English translation; they only differentiate between the genders in the English translation when they're talking about a single female "King". Like, say, "Pledge Queen".

Anyways; Suarhnir, if you recall, Dr. Minami specifically stated that Rika was born with Gazelle's Virgin Blade spear already inside of her, dormant, and that Sora found out about it and caused it to awaken using the brainwashing device. Just go back and read, you'll see.

About Kazu, Drylick, he doesn't have his Regalia core (and neither does Agito). How is Kazu going to burn anyone without a complete pair of ATs, seeing as how the core of a Regalia is the ATs' back wheels? He needs to get a new Flame Regalia core first.

[mr.danly]

Chapter's out!! http://www.mangareader.net/air-gear/336

Looks like it's a simple 'run' competition without Regalias, 2 v 2. Don't know where all this talk of continuing the GST was about, Ikki just told everyone to drop out, haha.

[suarhnir]

Anyways; Suarhnir, if you recall, Dr. Minami specifically stated that Rika was born with Gazelle's Virgin Blade spear already inside of her, dormant, and that Sora found out about it and caused it to awaken using the brainwashing device. Just go back and read, you'll see.


oyos

checked and double checked, no where in the original japanese script did minami say that rika was 'born' with the virgin blade. he only said that rika 'possessed' the virgin blade to confirm sora's suspicions. sora specifically said "she's likely the back-up". if she was 'born' with it, she wouldn't have needed the brain charger to be awoken, to control her that thing on her neck would have sufficed. the twinkle eye of the brain charger is the sign of the brain charger process not the 'virgin blade'.

[DragonOsman2]

The Virgin Blade is the Heart's Wing, isn't it? The main component that makes a Brain Charger, a Brain Charger? The fact that Rika has it means that she's a Brain Charger. It's not just because of the "Over Cross' Twinkle Eye," and it's also not because of the device on her neck. That device is only controlling her, probably.

Anyways, yeah, I just read the latest chapter myself. Ikki didn't just tell them to drop out; he also said that he'll destroy the Storm Regalia and scatter its pieces into space if no one challenges him with it at stake. He said they should drop out if they're too scared to fight him, but that if no one challenges him the Storm Regalia will be destroyed. So, yeah, really, the GST actually is going to continue since Ikki said he'll bet the Storm Regalia.

[IKRG]

Anyways, yeah, I just read the latest chapter myself. Ikki didn't just tell them to drop out; he also said that he'll destroy the Storm Regalia and scatter its pieces into space if no one challenges him with it at stake. He said they should drop out if they're too scared to fight him, but that if no one challenges him the Storm Regalia will be destroyed. So, yeah, really, the GST actually is going to continue since Ikki said he'll bet the Storm Regalia.

I am not sure, if I understand the continuation of the GST correctly, but my interpretation was Ikki did in fact tell them to drop out now and if they do not he will accept it as a challenge later. Lionheart (I think that is their name) even said they are fine with it; it is out of their rank.

As for Ikki, destroying the Strom Regalia I think that was directed at Sora only and not the other teams. He was challenging Sora to a "Battle of Components" and if Sora did not accept then Ikki would destroy the Storm Regalia (what better way to get Sora to agree). And if you look at the rules they came up with it seems to only include the four of them. Well that is how I am interpreting it. Thanks

[DragonOsman2]

Yeah, and you're probably right, too. [Just know that you should've said, "later" instead of "latter". And "GST" is the abbreviation for "Gram Scale Tournament," so when you say "GST tournament," you're actually saying the word tournament twice.]

By the way, I don't know if it's because the kanji for the name "Kaname" and the name "Kururu" are the same, but in this translation of the chapter, her name was read as "Kaname". I really am wondering about this. Better translation is needed.

[IKRG]

Yeah, and you're probably right, too. [Just know that you should've said, "later" instead of "latter". And "GST" is the abbreviation for "Gram Scale Tournament," so when you say "GST tournament," you're actually saying the word tournament twice.]

Thanks for pointing it out it‘s been corrected.

[DragonOsman2]

By the way, about that device on Rika's neck, I just posted another theory in the Chapter 335 Discussion Thread as to what it could be.

What if that device is doing something to her on a cellular level or something that's bad for her and she doesn't realize it?

Thoughts?

[Carnevil]

By the way, about that device on Rika's neck, I just posted another theory in the Chapter 335 Discussion Thread as to what it could be.


Thoughts?

Anything is possible, but I think OG was looking for an easy way to break Rika out of her mind control and this is it. It's less cheesy then her finally waking up because Ikki or Ringo pleaded with her.

[Laif]

It probably is unfortunatelly ;// What can O!G serve us after defeating Sora?? New main villain.. Dr Minami??? i don't think so.. I hope for someone from Koga to kick his ass :) But i wish i was wrong about ending of the manga because i realy love it:)

[IKRG]

Has anyone read SSA’s translation yet? What a difference in clarity.

[DragonOsman2]

Anything is possible, but I think OG was looking for an easy way to break Rika out of her mind control and this is it. It's less cheesy then her finally waking up because Ikki or Ringo pleaded with her.

I actually agree, though it wouldn't have been too bad, IMO, if she'd returned to normal due to the fight plus some reasoning. Hopefully, though, "normal" means just not brainwashed. I don't want her to lose her Brain Charger status.

[Brandnewkid]

I actually agree, though it wouldn't have been too bad, IMO, if she'd returned to normal due to the fight plus some reasoning. Hopefully, though, "normal" means just not brainwashed. I don't want her to lose her Brain Charger status.

[Why does almost everyone mix then and than up so much?]

Not only that, but it's an easy way to have Ikki even more pissed off.

[Drylick]

By the way, about that device on Rika's neck, I just posted another theory in the Chapter 335 Discussion Thread as to what it could be.


Thoughts?

That I think is the device controlling her. The brainwashing machine was meant to wake the Virgin Blade inside her. She was experimented when she was a child (since Minami was with a certain Noyamano on the Gazelle flashback). So I think Rika wasn't born with the Virgin Blade. I need to read that part again. Gazelle was the first Thorn Queen, and her skills/trick/data was saved by Minami when she died. So Rika is the back up, and the recipient of that data, after Lind.

I need to read that part again.