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1035AMC
December 04, 2011, 06:39 PM
So I've been thinking a lot on what the real abilities of the uzumaki clan are. There is tons of confusion and people tend to think that the Uzumaki just to do sealing techniques and live long but how can you explain that sealing techniques are actually the kekkei genkai of the clan, if Minato (who was not an uzumaki) was able to do these jutsus. Please leave some thoughts on what you think their powers are and theories about it.

Delbi
December 04, 2011, 07:12 PM
Kushina showed us her chakra chains so if they have any Kekkai Genkai that would be it.

The sealing abilities should be likened to the Nara and Yamanaka techniques, secrets techniques that are learned like normal techniques, but they're just secret.

1035AMC
December 05, 2011, 02:14 PM
There has to be more than that... And i think that Kushina's chakra was just a special ability that she had. If i remember correctly it was because of her chakra that she was chosen to be jinchuuriki.

ninjabot
December 05, 2011, 06:22 PM
It was because of the Uzumaki's longevity. That's why she could survive having the Kyuubi removed from her body. Gaara died when he lost his tailed beast, just like every other Jinchuuriki did, because they weren't blessed with the same physical toughness and stamina of an Uzumaki. So technically Naruto's been enjoying the benefits of being an Uzumaki since childhood.

okaneman
December 05, 2011, 09:21 PM
uzumaki clan indeed has powerful chakra and longevity. and what if tobi is of uzumaki clan? it's possible if you think it off throughly. his face definitely has wrinkles like 3rd hokage/danzou does. if he's really the same as hashirama/madara age, uzumaki's longevity did benefits him. also, we learned that sharingan/rinnegan indeed can be transferred to nearly anyone (junchuuriki/kakashi/nagato/tobi) so the possibilities is there...

1035AMC
December 06, 2011, 04:30 PM
uzumaki clan indeed has powerful chakra and longevity. and what if tobi is of uzumaki clan? it's possible if you think it off throughly. his face definitely has wrinkles like 3rd hokage/danzou does. if he's really the same as hashirama/madara age, uzumaki's longevity did benefits him. also, we learned that sharingan/rinnegan indeed can be transferred to nearly anyone (junchuuriki/kakashi/nagato/tobi) so the possibilities is there...


I have thought about it as well and it would be a huge twist to the story if Tobi was actually an uzumaki. I really hope that he is, i want to see some real uzumaki fights in the series.

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It was because of the Uzumaki's longevity. That's why she could survive having the Kyuubi removed from her body. Gaara died when he lost his tailed beast, just like every other Jinchuuriki did, because they weren't blessed with the same physical toughness and stamina of an Uzumaki. So technically Naruto's been enjoying the benefits of being an Uzumaki since childhood.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-54942-4/naruto/chapter-500.html

Delbi
December 06, 2011, 06:37 PM
And yet Yamato told us Naruto had "special chakra" that allowed him to house the nine-tails in his body, so he obviously inherited that trait from Kushina.

benelori
December 15, 2011, 09:47 AM
I have thought about it as well and it would be a huge twist to the story if Tobi was actually an uzumaki. I really hope that he is, i want to see some real uzumaki fights in the series.


I don't think you will get to see real Uzumakis fight in the series...the trait of an Uzumaki in battle would be related to some kind of sealing ability...even if Tobi is an Uzumaki he already has Rinnegan, Sharingan, Zetsu body, so he's not really a pure Uzumaki...Nagato had Rinnegan and Naruto has Kyuubi and an array of jutsus that contains only Rasengans...

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The chakra chain that Kushina and Tobi used seems to be some sort of chakra shape manipulation, so only people with great chakra control and special chakra could do it...so I don't think it is a Kekkei Genkai...Shodai's seal is similar to it for example...

I think it's just a matter of very strong chakra...

I think the Uzumaki clan specialized in sealing jutsu because of their chakra nature...their high quality chakra made their sealing jutsus especially strong IMO, so they chose to develop in that way....
Much like the Uchiha clan specialized towards battle...

So no KG here IMO, just specialization towards a single art

1035AMC
December 25, 2011, 11:10 AM
Sealing techniques are a very open concept. So far we have never seen any sealing techniques that deal with the shinobi's, except the ones that minato has done.

Airgrimes
December 25, 2011, 02:55 PM
So no KG here IMO, just specialization towards a single art

Sounds about right. Its more likely that the Uzumaki has no KKG. Look at how Nagato was surviving despite powering 6 entities at the same time, and Naruto has shown his longetivity by surviving things time and time again. Its likely the Sealing and Longeteivity are just Hiden jutsu's and abilities.
They actually do call them 'Hiden' btw.

young simba
December 25, 2011, 06:21 PM
I also agree that the longevity is a trait of the uzumaki and that is why Naruto can heal so quickly in battle. His clans traits and the kyuubi make Naruto a tank physically

Sachsenhesse
December 31, 2011, 08:40 AM
i call "Roshi" is a uzumaki.

trademark red hair, suited for tailed beast and his beast was sealed with chains, like kushina had

Jorge D. Dragon
January 07, 2012, 08:20 AM
I think it's practically a given that we'll learn more about Uzumaki clan during this War. And I really believe that it would be quite an interesting posibility for Tobi to be an Uzumaki. Also I do believe that Uzumaki clan is somewhat important for the plot and is also a part of the process to obtain Rikudou's power and that's why the clan was exterminated. It would be actually quite logical if it was exterminated according to Madara's or Tobi's plan.
Also for me it would be quite interesting to see Tobi being Uzumaki.

About Uzumaki's traits... As it has already stated - it's their long live, vitality, strong body (body of a Sage) and also strong chakra (Kushina's chains). Also their sealing techs... And I'm still confused about Rinnegan. If Nagato got it and he was Uzumaki... so they might be not only part Senju, but also part Uchiha?

1035AMC
January 09, 2012, 01:58 PM
I have the feeling that there was a third son or maybe rikudou had a brother... Otherwise how is it possible for the uzumaki's to be related to the senjus?

xXan
January 09, 2012, 03:53 PM
The uzumaki's logevity is a keke.

@1035AMC

No need for a 3'th brother. Somewhere, somehow a split happened. Some Senju probably left the clan and started a new clan or something like that.

Uchiha_Blood
January 09, 2012, 04:50 PM
Or, more simply, the oldest brother had two sons, one was a senju, one was an Uzumaki.
So both would be descendants, distant relatives and all. I still think that the Uzumaki are a battle oriented clan, where the Senju truly represented Rikudou Sennin:
Senju has, with Mokuton, the power to give life, creating forests and the like, the ultimate expression of chakra as a spiritual and physical entity, while Uzumakis have "only" the greater stamina ( the only ones that could hope to even go near to Nagato and Naruto in terms of chakra are Kisame and Raikage ), incredible resistance and longevity and a special chakra of the sorts, as Kushina said about herself and Yamato said about Naruto.

xXan
January 09, 2012, 08:45 PM
Or, more simply, the oldest brother had two sons, one was a senju, one was an Uzumaki.
So both would be descendants, distant relatives and all. I still think that the Uzumaki are a battle oriented clan, where the Senju truly represented Rikudou Sennin:
Senju has, with Mokuton, the power to give life, creating forests and the like, the ultimate expression of chakra as a spiritual and physical entity, while Uzumakis have "only" the greater stamina ( the only ones that could hope to even go near to Nagato and Naruto in terms of chakra are Kisame and Raikage ), incredible resistance and longevity and a special chakra of the sorts, as Kushina said about herself and Yamato said about Naruto.

If he had 2 sons then both of them would have the same name(clan name). Something else must have happened and somebody changed the clan name.

PS. Senju don't have Mokuton, that was the first's ability not the clan's. Now this is my gues but probably true Senju's also had the Uzumachi chakra/stamina/endurance.

Uchiha_Blood
January 10, 2012, 03:26 AM
If he had 2 sons then both of them would have the same name(clan name). Something else must have happened and somebody changed the clan name.

PS. Senju don't have Mokuton, that was the first's ability not the clan's. Now this is my gues but probably true Senju's also had the Uzumachi chakra/stamina/endurance.

Not necessarly, he could've decided to create his own clan, or even more a Senju woman married a guy named Uzumaki thus creating the link and losing the name. Since the two clans had a great relationship with one another I doubt they would've separated in other than a friendly way. Uzumaki's relationship imho is too strong with the Rikudou ( Nagato harboring the Rin'negan, borrowed or not, and Naruto unique chakra mode ) suggest that.

P.S I always viewed Mokuton as a Senju Gekkei Kenkai, even if only the First had it, since we only know the Second which had the greatest Water (one of the two elements of Mokuton ) affinity in probably all manga and Tsunade. We don't know if others had Mokuton of a lesser quantity, very much like only Madara has reached the Uchiha's pinnacle, with others below that, despite having his Gekkei Kenkai, can't even dream to reach his level.
And Uzumaki's longevity and vitality was something that was praised as a unique Uzumaki trait

Jorge D. Dragon
January 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
It would be actually funny if Naruto reaches mokuton because of Kuyubi.:) The thing is that Kuyubi's chakra provokes everything to grow and now I have a thought that most of Kekke Genkais came from different Bijuus who were part of Juubi and also were used by Rikkudou Sennin.

Also I hope Nagato had his own Rinnegan and not given, because manga showed him to avaken it the same way Sasuke awakened his own Sharingan. Thus I believe Uxumaki can have their own Rinnegan, thus they should have the mixture of Senju and Uchiha blood.

KuroNoJounin
January 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
I doubt Naruto can use Mokuton only because if he can't do a chakra manipulation with one hand, then he couldn't possibly combine two elements! But then again, ya can't doubt Naruto.
But I like the theory of Tobi being an Uzumaki, however I have a sneaking suspicion that Tobi could be short for Tobirama...