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[DarkLordOfKichiku]

New spoiler pic (the usual cover pic) up at the artists site:

http://blog.naver.com/tdstudio/100147685350

Along with a message - if Google Translate has it right, the chapter'll be delayed to Saturday, possibly longer (though that is only my guess- according to the google translation he's only done with 3 pages so far)...

[thornofcarrion]

Pretty neat cover, looks like Shioon is bleeding. Doesn't look like sweat at least. Too bad, it will be delayed. Really looking forward for this chapter.

[kidopitz27]

from the look of Shioon's eyes it's blank and in my view there's a small aura coming from him BHT perhaps?

[yonjuushichi]

Cover foreshadows that Shion will be in dire pinch....unless, it is I'm-all-cool-and-mighty captain's blood :P
I hope Mangaka will manage to put this chap by the end of this week :)) The action develops more and more. Can't wait until GMR meets his disciple :)

[Monsterguy]

There is a "Notice" on daum:

55화 원고는 토요일 오전에..

독자 여러분.. 새해 복많이 받으세요... 그런데.. 새해 첫 연재에.. 불미스럽게도 마감이 늦어지게 됐습니다.. 55화는 토요일 오전에 올려지게 될 거 같습니다.. 늦어지는 만큼 페이지가 많아지지도 않습니다.. 더 적어질 거 같아요.. 다시 한 번 죄송하단 말 전해드리고요.. 살짝좀 봐주세요..

PS: I presume it's something about chapter 55 coming out on Saturday as it was written on authors blog, not really sure, why I only used google translate... :s

[svyatoslav]

Shioon is bleeding and on one knee yet determined, at least that's what it looks like to me. He doesn't seem to be beat up too badly though which is encouraging because I hope this isn't one of those fights where he just takes hits and gets back up, enough of those.

[Charlie]

I dont mind waiting but I long to see to see Shi Woon go all out in a fight.

[Monsterguy]

I dont mind waiting but I long to see to see Shi Woon go all out in a fight.

Yes, I also want to see Shioons's determination (not to go down) in a fight , coz all his friends lives depend on
him !!!

Then, we might also expect elder Kwon to show us some additional moves (profesional in action), either against Shioon or along with him... :yay

[joshua019]

time to see wat the "other skills" are

[nanoclarkology]

Oh, man now i am giddy with excitement. Shioon seems to be bleeding. Maybe he took one of those dragon kicks and he is spitting up blood.
@kidopitz27 I see what you mean about the aura but looking close it actually looks as though Shioon is focused on something. His iris is there if you look close enough.
@svyatoslav I also agree with the Shioon gets hit falls down. Gets back up rinse repeat. I hope it is more interactive where he hits them and they hit back like a boxing match so to speal. But more entertaining.

[joshua019]

wat aura are u guys talking about?

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Come on Shioon use Seismic Step! I think that technique is badass but I think the fanboy inside of me will be disappointed haha. I really want Shioon to bust out some new foot techniques, if he could use the one that confuses the opponent that would be siiick.

The "aura" looks like a beast almost maybe a lion? I hope we see Shioon calm down this chapter cause he was really all over the place and frantic last chapter which was not like him. He needs to take a deep breath and remember what 9AD told him about exploiting the weakness of his opponent.

[kidopitz27]

from the looks of it that's not an aura im seeing but just a line for like trees or background but im happy if that is really an aura of Shioon

@GMR - Seismic step is a good one and the setting will be when the Shades guy attack Shioon , Shioon will jump and he will step on the shades guy's gauntlet and use the Focus Stomp

[GOOMOONRYONG]

@kidopitz27: If that happens my mouth will drop and I will make a mess of my keyboard. I think it is more likely that Shioon will use foot techs we haven't seen but I would love for him to bust out seismic step or the body shield tech where you lean with the shoulder. I think this is my favorite series to read right now even more than Naruto.

[bighawke5]

by aura maybe they mean his mood? cuz i dont see any light/smoke emitting from his body...

[kidopitz27]

@GMR if that really happen elder kwon's jaw will drop :)

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Haha you are right, I really hope we see a new offensive attack from Shioon. The soul crushing strike is a boss technique but he needs to expand his base skills a little bit. Right now he is like naruto with the Rasengan :P. I would even like to see Shioon mix it up with some kicks, he has seen some from 9AD as well as Jini.

bighawke5: I think everyone means the thing right behind Shioon's face it looks like an aura maybe, to me it looks like a lion but it's probably just the background.

[joshua019]

Haha you are right, I really hope we see a new offensive attack from Shioon. The soul crushing strike is a boss technique but he needs to expand his base skills a little bit. Right now he is like naruto with the Rasengan :P. I would even like to see Shioon mix it up with some kicks, he has seen some from 9AD as well as Jini.

bighawke5: I think everyone means the thing right behind Shioon's face it looks like an aura maybe, to me it looks like a lion but it's probably just the background.

there's no way that he cud have done all that much training in that single meditation session that he had, unless that was some sort of hyperbolic time chamber effect

[kidopitz27]

there's no way that he cud have done all that much training in that single meditation session that he had, unless that was some sort of hyperbolic time chamber effect

i think i can happen.

remember Shioon has the best concentration and spirit said the granny who trained him so it can also boost the training time of the meditation
and when the granny use some ki to open Shioon's Ki center she's surprised that he already in the meditation mode even sera is surprised

[shaheer]

there's no way that he cud have done all that much training in that single meditation session that he had, unless that was some sort of hyperbolic time chamber effect

i think it was like a hyperbolic time chamber, i mean a breaker version of that. Not to mention Shiwoon got back his Ki there (i am sure). But i dun knwo whether he learned new moves in that stage. i think he upgraded his previous capabilities foot work will improve drastically, i am sure hsi Soul crushing Punch wil show more potential when he uses BHT

[shaheer]

i think Gmr showed few styles if i remember Gmr used to steal techs lol, he was in a discipline and the soul crushing strike s pretty basic if you ask me, i am pretty much certain that he has some special techs in his school of learning (ie he learned from his exiled maser nd not steal from some sobs :))

[kidopitz27]

the meditation tech's description is

when women are captured and want to fight back they use that Meditation to study martial arts without moving

so in conclusion it's a hyperbolic chamber but it is in your mind :)

[bighawke5]

I dont remenber ever being tired of seeing lee or GAI fight in naruto same with GMR himself or shiion.

Now if shioon had a signature "KI BLAST" attack like the sunwoo clan elder did on "HAT-kun's" chest, and he kept using it over and over then THAT would be similar to the annoying rasengan, if you get what im saying?...Basically Soul crushing strike is fully incorporated into his fighting style

Unless i'm wrong, even GMR never showed special moves in his last fight part 1 with that other elder...he just used TRESHOLD to reach another state of over-prowness lol and kept fighting with soul crushing strikes...and the fight was never annoying despite that...

I am certainly not against Shioon showing new things, but its not really that critical is my point, what's critical is him improving in skills, i.e being able to punch lol http://www.mangareader.net/530-30459-9/the-breaker/chapter-5.html
http://www.mangareader.net/530-30459-13/the-breaker/chapter-5.html
..basically this happens everytime, unless he caught the one on the receiving end offguard...it's like he punches air, and it happened with cool guy last chapter too lol his moves are easily readable...

THAT and his movements have too many openings..he needs his skills to match his superpowers lol and even just using SCS would be enough :)

[kidopitz27]

@BigHawke5 Shioon doesn't even have super powers now he's like an ULTRAMAN with 3-5mins power and his core will start to blink like a car flashers :)

[GOOMOONRYONG]

there's no way that he cud have done all that much training in that single meditation session that he had, unless that was some sort of hyperbolic time chamber effect

Why is it not possible? The kid was using lightning steps after seeing 9AD use it once. We already know that Shioon has a scary learning capacity. I don't think it would be unreasonable for Shioon to show us a technique he has only seen a few times against glasses.

[shaheer]

he needs his skills to match his superpowers lol
i agree but i think you are forgetting hte awesome slick moves that he came up with against that Gothic hag, not to mention the training he got from the sunwoo to fight
i feel he has gained quite some combat tech along with his super powers
but there are always rooms for improvement of old and learning new moves

Why is it not possible? The kid was using lightning steps after seeing 9AD use it once. We already know that Shioon has a scary learning capacity. I don't think it would be unreasonable for Shioon to show us a technique he has only seen a few times against glasses.
ya he is basically GMR kid ver Gmr stole tech used agaisnt him or sth he can learn tech lightning fast too. But for some reason shonen heros get the generic moves but infinite chakra/ki to make up for it. So trend wise i feel he wont learn new stuffs rather improvise oon his olds

[kidopitz27]

Soul Crushing Strike - is Shioon's Rasengan

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Soul Crushing Strike - is Shioon's Rasengan

I think so too, I mean it's his go to move that just owns if it connects.

I don't really see how he could improve on the soul crushing strike, maybe soul crushing stop/kick? :p I an hoping Shioon doesn't just have soul crushing strike in the long run. It is clear even in this last chapter that he will need a lot more than that technique and variants of it if he hopes to be a match for any of the higher level fighters. I don't mind if he using Soul crushing strike a lot as long as he mixes up some other moves in there. I have high hopes for Shioon becoming a well rounded fighter with great spirit, he most certainly has the ability to become the strongest fighter out there. Debate me on that point if you want to but with his scary learning ability and huge amount of Ki he can do almost anything.

[tayrin]

so, no chapter this week or something?

[GOOMOONRYONG]

so, no chapter this week or something?

It's going to be a late release maybe tomorrow but I think Sunday? Can someone help me out here.

Some needs to clarify this for me, on page 10 the bottom left panel with just Shioon, the person talking is glasses right?

The spinning dragon exploding strike is a BOSS move by the way, that is probably my favorite technique of new waves besides the sunwoo elder's palm strike.

Anyone want to bet we cut away from the action and focus on something different this week? I would hate that but it is possible.

[svyatoslav]

I doubt it, the reason it is taking so long this week is probably because of all the fight scenes he has to draw.

[halfcrzy]

The author said saturday it would be released, and in korea its like 8am right now. So HOPEFULLY within the next 8-9 hours.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

It's out!:

http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/14937

My only comment so far is: Hmmm... :(

[kidopitz27]

wait? that's it Shioon was hit in the head? the f*ck! just 12 page?

[[ki{kk}o]]

wait? that's it Shioon was hit in the head? the f*ck! just 12 page?
... just look better... there are 19 pages >_>


i bet we are going to see another shioon's zombie fight.. :° i hope not

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

;2730928']... i bet we are going to see another shioon's zombie fight.. :° i hope not

Mark my words, that's probably EXACTLY what'll happen. Shioon'll go into Zombie-mode and his determination will probably make the elder SOOOOO impressed that he decides that Shioon's potential might be worth something to the Sunwoo Clan after all and jumps into the fight and stops Glasses Guy as he's about to land the killing blow....

This is not how I hoped events would go - Shioon seems to get curb-stomped as usually and unless someone new jumps into the fray, things'll probably go as I said above... *sigh*

[Hiro Hayase]

Now now guys...let's not get too disappointed until the translations come out. Words can change your perception after all.

I actually wanted Elder Kwon to see Shioon's zombie stamina and then the next day he's fully healed! I expect a funny expression then~

[joshua019]

for some reason i cant read it. HELP, anyone?

[bighawke5]

Wow..is this what's called trolling?
Lol!
Shioon: *ima get serious this time
Glasses:shakes head *curbstomps shioon

My guess is Shioon does his ghost step like he did with chang-ho, and gets the upperhand..otherwise Gramps steps in..he seems quite interested in the fight...

i guess screw blow is stronger than soul crushing strike..or maybe shioon SCS is low level....compared to master class GMR's

oh and i totally take back thinking shioon can take this guy, he's way too skilled for him, even if shioon wins this with ONE surprise blow i wont be Happy/satisfied as that would be a plot safe.

[joshua019]

funny, was the 'new skill' he was talking about last chapter is how to block screw blows with ur face?

[Charlie]

Well, I enjoyed the chapter still and the fight still just getting heated up. I wonder what Gramps was thinking there. Shi Woon is not down and out yet, he will pull off a surprise attack at the end. ^^ On a plus side its also good to see that Shi Woon hasn't become hax right after taking the pill.

[shakes12]

you realise that the glassess guy hit him with the gaunlet on his arm

[kidopitz27]

funny, was the 'new skill' he was talking about last chapter is how to block screw blows with ur face?

no his new techs are the "talking about something and there will be flashbacks tech" = it was intended for Elder Kwon

[joshua019]

no his new techs are the "talking about something and there will be flashbacks tech" = it was intended for Elder Kwon

Nippou Flashback inducer Technique

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Well darn not what I was expecting but I can't say I am surprised. Can't wait until it gets translated :D.

[Monsterguy]

This is how "high speed fighting" in reality really looks like (unpredictable), I like it... :amuse

The only thing is that the speed in "The Breaker" is much faster than that in reality, coz of "ki" !!!

The fight shown is amaizing, nothing more to say, but I hope Shioon didn't kick the bucket already...:s

If Shioon was "really" hit in the back of his head, the fight might be over, or Shioon might go zombie mode again... :facepalm

What do you think happenes next:

Shioon activates "Black Heaven and Earth" technique when hit
after Shioon is hit elder Kwon comes (he thinks Shioon died), but Shioon stands up all bloody, and says: "Bring it !!!"
Shioon avoids the hit (remember movement with incredible speed can sometimes be shown like that - Authour's style)
what was hit was Shioon's duplicate (Hwan technique)
A secret technique which affects an opponent's mind and willpower, creating the illusion that the user is in multiple places at once.
something else perhaps??? (write it down)

PS: Well this is a real cliffhanger if you ask me...:story:pwned

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I have my money on Hwan like I said in a previous post, I think he will show us some new foot techniques.

[Wowzers]

If Shioon was "really" hit in the back of his head, the fight might be over, or Shioon might go zombie mode again... :facepalm

What do you think happenes next:

Personally, I think he just ducked and got grazed on the back of the head. If you look how his arm was moving before Glasses stepped behind him and clocked him, Shioon's arm has a different movement afterward. Likely stunned though as it's a ki attack with a gauntlet.
Don't forget this page from chapter 50. (http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/50/6) It looked like he got hit bad in that frame, but the results were quite different.

I suspect that others have the same wish as me though that Shioon would win a fight without being turned into a bloody rag.

If he isn't stunned, Hwan would be a good choice right now. :)

[Monsterguy]

I have my money on Hwan like I said in a previous post, I think he will show us some new foot techniques.

Yah, my first thought after I looked the entire chapter was Hwan too, but Author has shown me that the story goes in a direction I can't even imagine, what I like the best...:amuse

So, I'm going to bet that it will be:
after Shioon is hit elder Kwon comes (he thinks Shioon died), but Shioon stands up all bloody, and says: "Bring it !!!"

[Miracleomatic]

@Monsterguy I got a perfect twist for you. Cool guy ends up getting bored and goes home to eat some pizza and watches his favorites NBA team. Leaving Shion & co in the woods for some hungry wild animals to feast on. Elder will be relieved and decides to party that night.

Then again... maybe Shion blocked with his left hand palm to reduce the damage. But its highly unlikely. Haha I bet Cool guy is gonna be surprised of Shion's "immortal body". Those cuts he received moments ago may have already healed too. He is the perfect tank afterall.

[svyatoslav]

My money is on some special foot technique similar to the latest fight against the school bully (that time too he had Shioon punched in the head from behind but it turned out to be an illusion/ghost image).

Another interesting possibility would be the shoulder ki block (forgot what's it called), the one 3AD used on the rooftop. That would be my favorite.

Anyway, good chapter, Shioon is barely holding his own but that's to be expected so that when the turnaround happens in the fight, it would be all the more awesome. At least he is not a punching bag yet. Seems like he was starting to notice the gimped leg movements of the glasses dude, he will probably use it in the next chapter.


edit: another possibility would be if he just deflected the punch upwards with soul crushing strike (like the guy did to his second punch when the fight just started).

---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ----------


My guess is Shioon does his ghost step like he did with chang-ho, and gets the upperhand..otherwise Gramps steps in..he seems quite interested in the fight...

i guess screw blow is stronger than soul crushing strike..or maybe shioon SCS is low level....compared to master class GMR's

oh and i totally take back thinking shioon can take this guy, he's way too skilled for him, even if shioon wins this with ONE surprise blow i wont be Happy/satisfied as that would be a plot safe.
I think Shioon is just getting a bead on the guys movements, just like with smiling blade in their fight where he was able to predict his movements a little bit.

As for why the guy's punch won, it was simply because Shioon didn't have the time to time his soul crushing strike just right with large enough amount of ki. Still, while the hand is all bloody, it doesn't look broken so the counterattack at least prevented serious damage and stopped the barrage.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

@monsterguy: I could see the elder come to the rescue but I don't want that outcome at all, at least not right now. I want to see what else Shioon can do during this fight, if he lands a couple more hits then I would be fine with the elder stepping in but not right now. I think Shioon still has a few tricks up his sleeve.

Here is something no one would expect: Shioon dodges glasses attack and punches him square in the face knocking him out at which point the elder comes in and says he is impressed with Shioon's spirit and then bows to the Head.

It might even be possible for Sera and Ha Il? (did I spell it right?) to show up forcing glasses to retreat for now. I'm sure Sera knows where Shioon is right now, unless he got rid of his phone before the fight.

This series is fucking awesome I am sooo glad I found it at school last year :D. My favorite series at the moment because I can totally identify with Shioon haha

[Wowzers]

Well, here is one english version. (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/the_breaker_new_waves/c055/1.html)

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Well, here is one english version. (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/the_breaker_new_waves/c055/1.html)

Looks like Mr X did one this week too... O_o

Edit: Or rather, sort of did, as he asked Sakicow to do it...

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Come! Fake Disciple. EPIC haha loved it, that line made the chapter worth it

[kidopitz27]

it will be fun after that attack the shade's guy falls down on the ground unconscious and Shioon wins

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Come! Fake Disciple. EPIC haha loved it, that line made the chapter worth it

Wish he could actually back up his own words though :eyeroll

Ah well, maybe for the next chapter?

[halfcrzy]

Haha Cmon guys! All this talk that he got his ass whooped. One sneak attack chain that lasted a whole chapter! Thats all it is. Our boy is gunna bust out Hwan, and dodge him last second just like changho. Haha i secretly hope he doesnt win a fight all bloody for once >.> He always gets beaten to a pulp but never seems to get a break. But this is too important for him to lose in, so we know he will win...

[svyatoslav]

Wish he could actually back up his own words though :eyeroll

Ah well, maybe for the next chapter?
Oh come on, did you really expect him to own a Master-class right off the bat, not to mention the author likes to use drama in big fights and make it look like our hero is having a hard time and then BOOM, Glasses guy won't know what hit him. In any case, not like Shioon is getting pulverized, he is pushing back and slowly taking over the fight as he gets used to the guy's movements and thinks of a way to exploit the gimp leg.



EDIT: now that I looked at the higher quality images from the scans, it seems to me like Shioon initiated the spinning "avoid" foot tech based on how the arm is moving on the last panel as the spinning dragon punch is being used and not the "illusion" tech like I initially thought.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Oh come on, did you really expect him to own a Master-class right off the bat, not to mention the author likes to use drama in big fights and make it look like our hero is having a hard time and then BOOM, Glasses guy won't know what hit him. In any case, not like Shioon is getting pulverized, he is pushing back and slowly taking over the fight as he gets used to the guy's movements and thinks of a way to exploit the gimp leg.

Not "own", certainly, but show off a bit more stuff against :p . But I did say "maybe next week", right? After all, the last page can be deceptive (we don't know whether Glasses Guy really hit or not, for one thing), so althrough I'm not really satisfied with this chapter, I'll hold off any judgement until we know how the fight really turns out. :)

[kidopitz27]

this is also a very bad situation for Shioon why?

1. do we know how long the pill will last?
2. if he find the weak spot of the shade's guy will he able to land a hit after that?
3. if Shioon hit him and win is elder kwon gonna attack?

my guess is after shioon found the weak spot the pills effect wears off....

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Wish he could actually back up his own words though :eyeroll

Ah well, maybe for the next chapter?

No but seriously wouldn't you be more pissed if Shioon could wipe the floor with glasses? If Shioon took glasses down with minimal damage everyone here would be up in arms calling bullshit claiming the training was cheap etc etc. I thought the chapter was pretty solid and I look forward for next week.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

No but seriously wouldn't you be more pissed if Shioon could wipe the floor with glasses? If Shioon took glasses down with minimal damage everyone here would be up in arms calling bullshit claiming the training was cheap etc etc. I thought the chapter was pretty solid and I look forward for next week.

See above, please :) . I didn't want him to "wipe the floor" with Glasses Guy or "own" him, but certainly show a bit more skill than this. As it is now, he's barely getting by and risks ending up a "bloody rag" again by the end of the fight...

[svyatoslav]

this is also a very bad situation for Shioon why?

1. do we know how long the pill will last?
2. if he find the weak spot of the shade's guy will he able to land a hit after that?
3. if Shioon hit him and win is elder kwon gonna attack?

my guess is after shioon found the weak spot the pills effect wears off....
I think arrogance was the weak spot of the glasses guy and Shioon figured it out right before that final attack.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Okay so this is what happens next chapter: Shioon ducks and kicks Glasses broken leg or the other one, this causes him to fall off balance and Shioon hits him in the chest or face. Glasses can't dodge because he maxed out with his last attack and is completely open now. Boom!

[Hiro Hayase]

Hahahaha nice predictions guys~

I predict Sera and that other guy (Why is his name so easily forgettable?) will arrive as Shioon does a new flash step technique. Although, what are the chance that Shioon actually doged that punch, it seems like him or Elder Kwon expected that surprise attack.



P.S. This is Sena Hayase, finally have the name I want.

[svyatoslav]

Hahahaha nice predictions guys~

I predict Sera and that other guy (Why is his name so easily forgettable?) will arrive as Shioon does a new flash step technique. Although, what are the chance that Shioon actually doged that punch, it seems like him or Elder Kwon expected that surprise attack.



P.S. This is Sena Hayase, finally have the name I want.
Looking at the chapter more carefully, it seems to me that because of that leg, there was only one direction Shioon could expect him to come from and I believe he anticipated that move. Shioon facing the other way is probably him luring the glasses guy in.

[LoS]

Jinnie gets up and interferes which makes Kwon come down from his perch... and puts off this fight till later

[k-dom]

Looking at the chapter more carefully, it seems to me that because of that leg, there was only one direction Shioon could expect him to come from and I believe he anticipated that move. Shioon facing the other way is probably him luring the glasses guy in.

Your quite optimist, Shion expected the attack would come from the same place and it didn't. So Shion prediction was screwed for sure.

[kangclaw]

Great chapter.

I would like a fight where Shioon doesn't get beaten to a pulp by the end it. I would also like it if he can back up his words.

Saying this, I believe that what is happening in this chapter is quite logical. Shioon is fighting a master class fighter. The master classes are much more smarter fighters than normal murims.

I think Shioon will learn a lot from this fight. Still I would like more fights where he doesn't get discraced; not that this fight is like this.

[8Psycho]

you guys seeing things..
Shioon most likely took the blow in head, nor guarded nor avoided. On other hand Cool guy's leg's limit approaching. Plotwise Sioon souldn't be taken out by that strike... Zombie mode is awaited.

i don't expect pill effect wear off in this fight.

[Monsterguy]

Some really nice predictions guys (girls) !!!

But what will really happen next is:

Only the author knows the correct answer on this matter...:p

My anticipation:

I really want to see how impressed elder Kwon would be at Shioon's fighting at the end, especially when he realizes that Shioon "still" has a broken "ki center" !!!

With fixed "ki center" elder Kwon might start to "want" to how strong Shioon's Soul Crushing strike really is. And also, if the punch would have been executed with fixed "ki center" (a technique becomes stronger). At that time, in my opinion elder Kwon would start to think that this fight Shioon could "even" have won several times already, like in a clash on this pannel (http://7.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/8472/055.0/compressed/c014.jpg). Not to mention this is Shioon's first battle against the murim master class fighter !!!

[joshua019]

The shades guy's foot is hurting, so at some point he will be unable to move his foot after that extensive footwork

[[ki{kk}o]]

i guess and hope that shioon is able to avoid the SDES with one foot technique...

[8Psycho]

Not to mention this is Shioon's first battle against the murim master class fighter !!! How so? What about 3AD & Chandomoon's head?

Well.. they obviously was easy on him, but still...

[Monsterguy]

How so? What about 3AD & Chandomoon's head?

Well.. they obviously was easy on him, but still...

Yes, they have gone "easy on him", as you said.

On the other hand Glasses guy tries to kill Shioon, what means not to only defeat him (like all other master fighters untill now), but he "literally" wants to end Shioon's life !!!

Anyway Shioon become used to being in life and death fights, as he wanted to end his normal life and exchange the rest of it to continiue the murim way of living. Strange for some people, but the turning point for Shioon, who has seen this kind of life as the only way out of his misery (being bullied, ...).

This shows us that even if we don't know how to go on, there is always at least one path out, which might also be what we were always looking for...:amuse

[shaheer]

they wernt fight to death to be honest nor were they serious with shiwoon. This time both are aiming for a massive showdown so i suppose this one is OFFICIALLY :p the first

[revennge]

a-team (http://www.ipitydafoo.com/?p=1207) posted their scan on their blog. Along with a REALLY REALLY long rant. I read it all through and agree with everything. I suggest those who ramble about crossing the line with ch.54 read that rant and understand WHY it was done so, not just bitch at them as useless leecher(though i am one too.)

On-topic. This is a strange chapter. Shioon was overwhelmed and i hope he dodged the last strike so he can counter-attack.

[k-dom]

After what happened during the last 3 weeks, adding more oil to the fire each time, what did they expect. Last week discussion was more about scanlators issues than the breaker ! I'm sorry but I'm not giving them 1s of my time. When they stop acting like teenage boys I may reconsider. And if we could do the same here, I would be thankful. And if you still want to discuss it, please make a dedicated thread.

[Miracleomatic]

a-team (http://www.ipitydafoo.com/?p=1207) posted their scan on their blog. Along with a REALLY REALLY long rant. I read it all through and agree with everything. I suggest those who ramble about crossing the line with ch.54 read that rant and understand WHY it was done so, not just bitch at them as useless leecher(though i am one too.)

On-topic. This is a strange chapter. Shioon was overwhelmed and i hope he dodged the last strike so he can counter-attack.

Too bad this won't stop people from ranting. Afterall a lot of people have shallow perception and don't know half of the story most of the time. It is something we have to live with. There is a reason for everything. The reason why A-team did what it did was to respect the author's work and wishes. The reason why readers complained was due to their action before thought. It would be nice if everyone in the world would actually stop for a minute and think for once. It would make the world a better place.


Anyhow back to the topic. The way its heading now. Cool guy will keep using foot techniques until his legs give out. Something similar to Shion's fight against Ji-gun. Shion will get to exploit an opening and Bam! one good hit before going to sleep. lol at seeing elder getting surprised. That's nice to see. Believe what you see with your own eyes. Soon he too will be converted to the Shion religion. Shion will have hundreds of followers after the end of the New waves just like Goomoonryung.

[bighawke5]

Does anyone know who the master classes are cuz its all a mess right now.
I know smiling blade, sera are part of a group of potential master classes so not quite there yet, but what about the guy in the stripe vest that's always in the sunwoo clan limo? He used thunder smashing strike on Shioon in part 1...

Also is hats-kun and impenetrable wall-kun master class? Or just a bit higher rank than jinie? Also is sera and those 2 potential master classes like smilling blade...

By the way the term potential master class was brought up in a meeting 8AD had with his colleagues about runnaway murium in students from their own respective schools that were pottentially following 9AD...or something..and they had a pic of ji-gun

[8Psycho]

i looked through a-team rant... and so? still i don't see sny the reason for watermarking
In all probability, I know watermarking and hoping online readers don’t upload our releases is no doubt a lost battle. But it doesn’t mean that I have to bend over and take it either.it's just stubbornness, no?
Post can be summarized in words
We do this in our spare time, for fun. So there is no point to discuss that matter anymore.



Hm... i'd say that guy in the stripe vest is master class, and hats-kun and impenetrable wall-kun still not there yet. I do not have anything to back it up though...

[svyatoslav]

Your quite optimist, Shion expected the attack would come from the same place and it didn't. So Shion prediction was screwed for sure.
Like the author hasn't made us think that Shioon (or another character) messed up before only to find out he was either faking it or he was expecting it.

Remember this cliffhanger?

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/33/18

And then this happened:

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/34/4


PS. In addition, if Shioon takes that hit to the head, he is dead, so that's obviously isn't going to happen. There is no time for anybody to interfere and that only leaves us with the option that Shioon will somehow either dodge it or block it, at least partially.

[joshua019]

it most likely there is going to be a miracle, most likely scenario is that shades guy foot hurts as he is about to hit shioon as a result halt his attack then shioon attack -> win

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Does anyone know who the master classes are cuz its all a mess right now.
I know smiling blade, sera are part of a group of potential master classes so not quite there yet, but what about the guy in the stripe vest that's always in the sunwoo clan limo? He used thunder smashing strike on Shioon in part 1...

Also is hats-kun and impenetrable wall-kun master class? Or just a bit higher rank than jinie? Also is sera and those 2 potential master classes like smilling blade...

By the way the term potential master class was brought up in a meeting 8AD had with his colleagues about runnaway murium in students from their own respective schools that were pottentially following 9AD...or something..and they had a pic of ji-gun

I think Hat guy is an expert and maybe Wall is too? I think it was stated in the gym what level Hat was

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/24/3. Ill states that he is an expert but he may not be.

[joshua019]

Does anyone know who the master classes are cuz its all a mess right now.
I know smiling blade, sera are part of a group of potential master classes so not quite there yet, but what about the guy in the stripe vest that's always in the sunwoo clan limo? He used thunder smashing strike on Shioon in part 1...

Also is hats-kun and impenetrable wall-kun master class? Or just a bit higher rank than jinie? Also is sera and those 2 potential master classes like smilling blade...

By the way the term potential master class was brought up in a meeting 8AD had with his colleagues about runnaway murium in students from their own respective schools that were pottentially following 9AD...or something..and they had a pic of ji-gun

There is really no distinguishable between disciple and master in this series unlike in HSDK.

[nanoclarkology]

I think that Shioon was thinking about how to beat him. http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=The%20Breaker%20New%20Waves/The%20Breaker%20New%20Waves%20c055/002.jpg&server=nas.html

This panel http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=The%20Breaker%20New%20Waves/The%20Breaker%20New%20Waves%20c055/016.jpg&server=nas.html is just the author trying to screw with our heads. I think Shioon elbowed him or hit him some how.

[svyatoslav]

I think Smiling Blade can be put into master class since it is hinted he could fight evenly with Glasses if not injured. Not sure about Sera, I don't think she is quite there yet, but that's just my personal opinion, there is nothing to really support that.

[matzik1212]

Wow this chapter was really amazing. That damn glasses guy is a nasty fellow :darn but i have to say that even though Shioon was beaten pretty badly i'm really proud of him. His guts are the real deal and he's grown so much :) .
I just hope that blow from the end of the chapter didn't hit entirely and he managed to avoid the most of the damage , otherwise i think he will lose .Well practically if that blow really did land then next chapter we should see Shioon's brain all over the place :) not too cute ;)
On the other hand elder Kwon seems to be pretty impressed by his determination to not give up even though he's facing a master class ... oh btw why didn't he saw Jinie lying there hmmm?

[joshua019]

3 scenario:
1) he will win
2) Someone will come to save him
3) Shade guy end up deciding not to kill him.

[halfcrzy]

Everytime i re-read this it confuses me! Whats up with old elder balls. He wants him to die, but he is concerned about over exerting yourself and breaking your fist? Someone explain! Old people confuse me.

[kidopitz27]

Yi Gyu-Bum - from Sunwoo Clan is called 1 of the 4 supernovas even Ma Mun-Gi the guy that cuts his arm off when he says sorry to GMR

on the chapter i think Shioon is been hit in the head and then Shioon will fall down and the shade's guy will say i will kill you after im done with Smiling blade and then Shioon will see that the Shade's Guy is going to kill Smiling blade and Shioon will snap! BHT!

[svyatoslav]

Everytime i re-read this it confuses me! Whats up with old elder balls. He wants him to die, but he is concerned about over exerting yourself and breaking your fist? Someone explain! Old people confuse me.
I think he is talking about the start of the fight when Shioon blindly attacked Glasses without strategy. He should've used the fact that it was a 2 on 1 and worked with Smiling Blade. The Elder was probably talking about that overzealousness.

[Asvin]

Everytime i re-read this it confuses me! Whats up with old elder balls. He wants him to die, but he is concerned about over exerting yourself and breaking your fist? Someone explain! Old people confuse me.

I think he wants Shi-Woon to just lay down and die. He didn't pay for the movie, has to stand in a tree and no food of any kind. Right about now he just wants this fight to end so he can go home and watch the Price is Right.

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Pooh! Another nice one... Hard to predict consider all roads point to Shi-Woon's head splattered all over the road.

As I was reading I actually thought for a second that Jin-Ie would come crawling over on her belly, grab Master Glasses by the legs and go, 'Shi-Woon! Do it now!'. But after that fist to the face... Only plot can save him now.

[Wowzers]

3 scenario:
1) he will win
2) Someone will come to save him
3) Shade guy end up deciding not to kill him.

Fourth option:
4) He ends up in a glass tube beside Shio.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

After rereading I am wondering if the elder is going to become one of Shioon's teachers. He will probably have a change of heart at some point, maybe he would teach Shioon some cool techniques. Jini might join too ;)

[Franckie]

This fight is probably one of the best demonstrations we've seen of Shioon's growth. While Shioon is being defeated his performance has vastly improved since chapter one, and especially in regards to Part I. Still, as this chapter highlights, Shioon still has room for improvement besides simply fighting, such as thinking of his actions beforehand.

As for the Elder, while the Elder will probably come around in due time I don't think it'll be right now. It'd make little sense considering how he's been adamant since chapter one of New Waves to break Shioon. Instead I'd prefer this encounter cause the Elder to being reevaluating his opinion of Shioon (e.g. to see if he is "worthy" of leading the Clan). I also don't think he'll intervene on Shioon's behalf since its too early for the Martial Arts Alliance to get involved at this point in the story. Someone else such as Sera may intervene before things get out of hand.


i looked through a-team rant... and so? still i don't see sny the reason for watermarkingit's just stubbornness, no?
Post can be summarized in words So there is no point to discuss that matter anymore.
Yeah, how dare they take offence at other people profiting from the work they do for us for free. What horrible, horrible people they are. Oh, and for pointing out how vivid the author is regarding his work being hosted on foreign sites.

[8Psycho]

Yeah, how dare they take offence at other people profiting from the work they do for us for free. What horrible, horrible people they are. Oh, and for pointing out how vivid the author is regarding his work being hosted on foreign sites.Somehow... it doesnt seems that you readed my post...

1. Wm doesnt offend OR at all, they host it without second throught. It's just offent leechersreaders like myself.
2. They scanlate it not for us, but for fun. Like that wm really makes sense.
3. I didnt said a word about autors.

[k-dom]

Like the author hasn't made us think that Shioon (or another character) messed up before only to find out he was either faking it or he was expecting it.

Remember this cliffhanger?

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/33/18

And then this happened:

http://www.mangareader.net/the-breaker-new-waves/34/4


PS. In addition, if Shioon takes that hit to the head, he is dead, so that's obviously isn't going to happen. There is no time for anybody to interfere and that only leaves us with the option that Shioon will somehow either dodge it or block it, at least partially.

Except that contrary to your link this time Shion clearly stated what he expected. And it was only his thoughts so it was not a bluff. I don't think you can compare both events.
But I agree it would be bad if Shion does not display at least one move that he is not just talk before he is eventually helped.

[Charlie]

I'm thinking that he will attempt a big move and then it fails and then the old gramps steps in for save? Well, that seems too straight forward for a prediction though.

[nanoclarkology]

It seemed to me that kwon is very faat. Isn't ha-il nicknamed lightning feet? Yet kwon easily read his moves and hand palm his chest. If kwon worked on Shioons speed. Now that would make for a tough Shioon.

As forthis chapter I don' t know of anyone that thought this would happen. Not being owned so completly.

[4ghost]

I've got to hand it to the author for making it difficult to predict how Shioon will manage to emerge victorious in this fight. My best guess right now is that Shioon, with a feint, has intentionally lead the glasses guy to initiate his attack. There are probably two major parts to the weakness that Shioon has discovered the first being his leg, while the second is likely the arrogance that the Glasses guy has in being able to see through/read/predict Shioon's movements. I bet Shioon recognized that the screw blow, right now, is truly only effectively by glasses with his good foot, the right foot leading. Shioon probably recognized the the pattern of the glasses guy being that he goes for the killing move right after reading Shioon's movement.

[svyatoslav]

Except that contrary to your link this time Shion clearly stated what he expected. And it was only his thoughts so it was not a bluff. I don't think you can compare both events.
But I agree it would be bad if Shion does not display at least one move that he is not just talk before he is eventually helped.
4ghost's post says exactly what I was thinking. Shioon never said exactly what he was expecting, he just made the fist movement but it could be a feint just like in the fight against Chang-ho where he made it look like he was going to block the bone-crushing strike but instead lured him into a trap and used a foot tech to avoid and counter in the last second. In this case there is nothing in the last chapter that could disprove such a possibility.

Still, that's only an opinion so I'm not trying to say that it will be exactly as I predicted. Actually in the example I stated in my last post, people were also saying similar things to now and many thought he was going to get punched.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

It's nice to see a lot of discussion here, usually we only have 4 or 5 pages sometimes and we are already at 8. I hope more people learn about this series.

[Hiro Hayase]

It's nice to see a lot of discussion here, usually we only have 4 or 5 pages sometimes and we are already at 8. I hope more people learn about this series.

It's going to become even busier when Shioon recovers his ki-center. We will call that the "great migration" of fanboys and girls.

I didn't consider possibility until now, but the SUC could just as easily flinch with pain or trip while giving Shioon an opportunity to evade/strike. His foot should be reaching its limit.

[joshua019]

It's going to become even busier when Shioon recovers his ki-center. We will call that the "great migration" of fanboys and girls.

I didn't consider possibility until now, but the SUC could just as easily flinch with pain or trip while giving Shioon an opportunity to evade/strike. His foot should be reaching its limit.

Dont think so believe it or not most manga readers are stuck on Naruto, Blech(shittest manga ever) and One Piece!

[bighawke5]

I say mutual hit..Shioon spun and punched him while he punched Shioon...like a counterspin
hence why cool Guy's not shown on last page, he's been hit too..

Otherwise Shioon spun his body to reduce damage...can't see him fainting here cuz that means elder jumps in to prevent smug-kun from killing him and the rest...and I still think its a bit early for a change of heart.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Here is another thought that occurred to me, maybe Shioon will duck and spin and try to break Glasses glove/gauntlet thang. Without that glove maybe he can't use that technique and will be a lot easier to take down.

Similar to when Goku side stepped Pikon in the other world tournament and then blasted his ass into the wall.

[thornofcarrion]

Awesome chapter, I missed the old Shioon. I think Shioon has taken the hit, may be not at full force but he has also landed a hit on his opponent weak spot. I am sure, Shioon wont be knocked out. I am just afraid its not going to be another fight where the point is to show his will. And his opponent acknowledges him.

[matzik1212]

I think Shioon needs to learn the Black Heaven& Earth Technique. Speaking of which i'm kinda pissed off at him for forgetting all about this technique which was the last memento he received from his master :chair
And the though of him having another master to teach him martial arts doesn't make me happy at all ( i'm talking here about the post where GOOMOONRYONG said elder Kwon might be one of Shioon's teachers). Actually i didn't like that granny either but it can't be helped since Shioon wants to regain his battle abilities but i'm totally against him accepting that guy.

:scry Why doesn't GMR appear and takes Shioon with him dammit. I can't accept other teacher for Shioon than him and those times of training in the first part of The Breaker were so epic :blai i miss the atmosphere from that time *sigh*

[Asvin]

After rereading I am wondering if the elder is going to become one of Shioon's teachers. He will probably have a change of heart at some point, maybe he would teach Shioon some cool techniques. Jini might join too ;)

Pretty sure that will happen eventually but more than that I think he will push for Jin-Ie and Shi-Woon to get married. His daughter was supposed to marry the previous male Head. Seems history is repeating itself with his granddaughter. Of course, that's a bit too obvious a turn but a possible turn/twist non the less.

If that were to happen then I can only imagine what would happen when So-Sul shows up, ready to retake control of the clan.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Pretty sure that will happen eventually but more than that I think he will push for Jin-Ie and Shi-Woon to get married. His daughter was supposed to marry the previous male Head. Seems history is repeating itself with his granddaughter. Of course, that's a bit too obvious a turn but a possible turn/twist non the less.

At least from the way things are now, Jinie wouldn't mind being married to Shioon, unlike her mother who appears to have had no interest in being married to the previous head. :amuse


If that were to happen then I can only imagine what would happen when So-Sul shows up, ready to retake control of the clan.

... Yandere Sosul? :iik

[nanoclarkology]

Sosul might be a little late. I guess Shioon needs to find someone he is attracted to. For some reason jinis breasts pressing against him bothered him. So he might not think of her that way. I am not saying that he couldn't generate feelings just saying. I like him with Sera but for some reason I want to see the knock out chick that Sosul will become once her issue of blood is fixed.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Sosul might be a little late. I guess Shioon needs to find someone he is attracted to. For some reason jinis breasts pressing against him bothered him. So he might not think of her that way. I am not saying that he couldn't generate feelings just saying..

I think him being "bothered" there was just him being his usual "Chaste Hero/Clueless Chick Magnet" self :amuse . At any rate, they seem to be growing closer, but it's hard to say if they'll end up just friends or something more...


I want to see the knock out chick that Sosul will become once her issue of blood is fixed.

Yeah, Sosul's return should make things... Interesting, in more ways than one! :smile-big

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Dont think so believe it or not most manga readers are stuck on Naruto, Blech(shittest manga ever) and One Piece!

Slamming Bleach. Nice. :super What's your secret? Everytime I speak my mind the mods give me an infraction. Oh, this will net me two.



Awesome chapter,

Here here.



I think Shioon has taken the hit, may be not at full force but he has also landed a hit on his opponent weak spot.

Same here. It looks like the guy nailed Shioon's shoulder but I'm hoping Shioon was able to do some reach around block with his palm or something.



I am sure, Shioon wont be knocked out. I am just afraid its not going to be another fight where the point is to show his will. And his opponent acknowledges him.

Same here. I'd really like to see Shioon win for once. I'm not knocking him but when is the last time we've seen him K.O. someone? I know he won't be at 100% for a long-time but I hope the training he's done thus far allows him to do more than simply "suvive."




I think him being "bothered" there was just him being his usual "Chaste Hero/Clueless Chick Magnet" self :amuse . At any rate, they seem to be growing closer, but it's hard to say if they'll end up just friends or something more...

I'm looking forward to seeing Sosul's return as well. Plotwise I'd have to say I think Shioon is going to end up with Jinie or Sera. I'm pretty sure they're going to play the amnesia-soap opera angle with Jinie (my god that crash was awful) but I've been wrong before. What happened to that other girl? Saehee was it?

[svyatoslav]

So far the only hints of "romantic" feelings from Shioon were for Sahee when he got jealous of Smiling Blade when she was fawning over him. Also, certainly the strongest reactions to damsel-in-distress mode were certainly when Sahee was the damsel in question, however, at this point that love seems to be unrequited.

[ZERO PHOENIX]

So far the only hints of "romantic" feelings from Shioon were for Sahee when he got jealous of Smiling Blade when she was fawning over him. Also, certainly the strongest reactions to damsel-in-distress mode were certainly when Sahee was the damsel in question, however, at this point that love seems to be unrequited.

I'd like to discuss that with someone before if I may. :^_^

1) Permit me to ask whose love was unrequited? Shioon's or Saehee's?
2) Is this really a case of unrequited love or the author just pushing Saehee out of the current events so as to pull us deeper into Murimim (spelling)?

On a side note I think all four ladies bring something to the table to help Shioon as a person and they could all be excellent girlfriend material. Who knows, Shioon may not officially end up with any "one" particular lady. They might have some ending where all five of them are going to college together or the beach or something and we're all like, "Arrrgggghhhh so who is he really going out with."

[svyatoslav]

What I was saying is that currently Sahee has no romantic feelings for Shioon, otherwise she wouldn't fawn over Smiling Blade in front of him, but may be she does like him and just hasn't realized her feelings because they are childhood friends, who knows?

[joshua019]

What I was saying is that currently Sahee has no romantic feelings for Shioon, otherwise she wouldn't fawn over Smiling Blade in front of him, but may be she does like him and just hasn't realized her feelings because they are childhood friends, who knows?

At the moment this series is becoming a harem. shioon has a 4 girls to choose from.

[NAM61]

i think shwoon somehow dodge the hit and will counter next chapter. probably a soul crusher to the face of suc guy. cause i am sure he would die if he took a direct hit to the face.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I'm looking forward to seeing Sosul's return as well. Plotwise I'd have to say I think Shioon is going to end up with Jinie or Sera. I'm pretty sure they're going to play the amnesia-soap opera angle with Jinie (my god that crash was awful) but I've been wrong before.

I really hope there's no amnesia-soap opera-plot waiitng for us. Well, I don't think it's going to happen, but you never know... Still, Jeon Geuk-jin seems to go for farly straightfoward plot soverall, so the risk of an amnesia-case seems low. We'll have to wait and see a few chapters at least... Still, it might make sense that he ends up wiuth either of the two at the end of Part 2 - it'd make for additional drama once Sosul returns in Part 3 after all... But it's just as likely that Shioon won't have ended up with someone at the end of part 2, if the author wishes to preserve the status quo. For now, at least, all love in the group seems to be unrequited... :eyeroll


cause i am sure he would die if he took a direct hit to the face.

Uh, I think you're forgetting something here...:

http://i28.mangareader.net/the-breaker/33/the-breaker-833935.jpg

http://i8.mangareader.net/the-breaker/55/the-breaker-1190168.jpg

... Shioon has frequiently survived attacks that would kill or knock out a more grown-up and experienced Murim, so even if he's hit here, the same thing may well hold true. Indeed, if that blow DID hit him, then it MUST hold true, otherwise the story ends here :sweat

[joshua019]

that guy is going easy at shioon!

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

that guy is going easy at shioon!

I assume you're talking about Gyu-Bum (he wanted to capture Shioon alive after all)? That's true, but fact is still that he twice used a technique that should have knocked out Shioon (remember the Goomoonryong-fan he knocked out in a single blow one or two chapter before that) or put him in a hospital bed, but he STILL got up, so...

[joshua019]

I assume you're talking about Gyu-Bum (he wanted to capture Shioon alive after all)? That's true, but fact is still that he twice used a technique that should have knocked out Shioon (remember the Goomoonryong-fan he knocked out in a single blow one or two chapter before that) or put him in a hospital bed, but he STILL got up, so...

That guy just want to tell shioon that he should not use martial arts on normal ppl he has no intention to kill or incapacitate shioon that is why shioon manage to get some opening, but the shade guy even though he does not want to kill shioon (that is y he left him live last time) at the moment he seem to be either killing shioon or permanently incapacitate him.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

That guy just want to tell shioon that he should not use martial arts on normal ppl he has no intention to kill or incapacitate shioon that is why shioon manage to get some opening, but the shade guy even though he does not want to kill shioon (that is y he left him live last time) at the moment he seem to be either killing shioon or permanently incapacitate him.

Oh, you're talking about Hyuk so Chun then, not Gyu-Bum. Well then, in that case I think you've forgottena botut he page efter the one I posted above:

http://i20.mangareader.net/the-breaker/33/the-breaker-833936.jpg

The dialouge in there would seem to confirm that it WAS a killing blow, and yet Shioon survived. True, he didn't fight with the aim to kill Shioon, but he got carried away and almost did it anyway.

[bighawke5]

Shioon has monster stamina, we know this from part 1, GMR built his internals/meridians/watchumacallit to master level says grandma.. plus the fact that he's a walking med-pill...and that GMR level spirit...

even if this is a killing blow, he's not just gonna lay out...zombie mode might kick in..lol