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ibra87
January 25, 2012, 08:32 PM
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LoS
January 31, 2012, 11:33 PM
:いやあ名無しってほんとにいいもんですね:2012/02/01(水) 14:28:16.43 発信元:143.90.223.33
ゴン復活
会場の皆はゴンに今から立候補しろと
リストドゥーンがゴンにジンが隣に居ることを教える。
キルアの姿は無(キルアが治した事は秘密にされている)
ジンのヤバいなはゴンに会っちゃうからか・・・・

Gon is revived

•Sasuke•
February 01, 2012, 02:34 AM
from T some more


パリストンしてやったりだな。レオリオを推す理由が無くなってもうたね。
キルアはどこ行った。
ゴン子供姿で良かった・・・・・

---------- Post added at 09:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 AM ----------

pics tnx to apd
http://animeprodestiny.forumcommunity.net/?t=37822471
http://www.cantilux.net/files5/1718506269.jpg

aise2i
February 01, 2012, 02:36 AM
Thanks for the spoiler Sasuke.

BTW, the first four lines are for Toriko, not HxH.

LoS
February 01, 2012, 02:40 AM
Lol @ that picture

Gon: "Gin.....?"

Gin's face is priceless, bwahahaah

exsoldier001
February 01, 2012, 02:45 AM
Gin: Something bad is going to happen...

Meeting Gon is the bad thing that is going to happen....

LoS
February 01, 2012, 02:47 AM
wasn't this entire series based on Gon finding his Father Gin, and look at that picture. Noooooooo

aise2i
February 01, 2012, 02:50 AM
These lines:
すれちごめん。
会長の命令で四天王でマザーフィッシュ確保に向かう
せつのんのアシスタント登場
一龍の為にせつのん腕を振るう。

That's why T said sorry in the first line for using the same thread :)

ish3
February 01, 2012, 03:02 AM
That picture speaks a million words LMFAO. I wonder how Ging is going to get out of seeing his father. Possibly Gon is retarded and doesn't know who he is or they don't count this as their meeting but a half point of the story. Either way hahaha. Kinda reminds me of when Shanks found Luffy's hat but Gon is at least healed at this point plus he seems to have found where Leorio is which is more than likely the reason he is there.

I really hope that's not a fake picture lol.

•Sasuke•
February 01, 2012, 03:12 AM
a fake picture is this
http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2584897.jpg

---------- Post added at 10:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:06 AM ----------

this is the color page
http://www.cantilux.net/files5/1706316188.jpg

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 03:19 AM
The color page looks creepy as hell.

And now, I understand why Ging said it was bad, when it was announced that no Hunter can't leave the building until the new chairman is elected. LOL at Ging being cornered like a rat. :D

miotara
February 01, 2012, 03:19 AM
Who bets that Gin is going to run away first chance he gets? :)

And I want to see what was Killua's reaction when Gon was healed and what happened to Alluka. I love spoilers even if they spoil the surprise when reading the scan^^

Foreva
February 01, 2012, 03:40 AM
^ The spoiler says that when Gon wakes up Killua and Alluka have already left, so you prolly won't see them in this chapter.

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 03:47 AM
^ The spoiler says that when Gon wakes up Killua and Alluka have already left, so you prolly won't see them in this chapter.

Hmm...that implies that Illumi is already on the hunt or it's simply for Alluka's sake that they left due to them attracting the attention of other people, who felt that power. Is there anything else with regards to the spoilers? :D

miotara
February 01, 2012, 03:52 AM
^ The spoiler says that when Gon wakes up Killua and Alluka have already left, so you prolly won't see them in this chapter.

wow really? Damn and I was looking forward to it. Well I was expecting some sort of a fallout between the two of them, Killua is angry at Gon after all and will probably try not to involve him in the situation with Alluka. Gon will probably guess something is wrong sooner or later. Taking a wild guess, I would say that Gin will run away and Gon has to choose between running after him or going after Killua.

Foreva
February 01, 2012, 04:24 AM
Sorry, I was a bit wrong. We do get to see Killua and Alluka in this chapter, but they do not interact with Gon. The spoiler says that when Killua is leaving with Alluka, he thinks to himself: 'See you later, Gon.'

•Sasuke•
February 01, 2012, 06:20 AM
http://animeprodestiny.forumcommunity.net/?t=37822471#lastpost

raw out

http://animeprodestiny.forumcommunity.net/?t=37822471 (last post)

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 06:30 AM
What a chapter!!! I can't wait for the scanlation it's seems like Pariston outdid Cheadle to an terrifying extent but last not least Gon is finally back!!! :zomg

TemplateR
February 01, 2012, 06:31 AM
So Gon metts his Dad now, that means he has achievied is goal right ?

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 06:34 AM
So Gon metts his Dad now, that means he has achievied is goal right ?

Yeah, he did. But knowing Gon he will find another goal in his life, which will be to surpass his father i.e. becoming the best Hunter in the world.

TemplateR
February 01, 2012, 06:36 AM
Yeah, he did. But knowing Gon he will find another goal in his life, which will be to surpass his father i.e. becoming the best Hunter in the world.

Does he knows, how his father really look like ? ( I don´t remember now about that )

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 06:41 AM
Does he knows, how his father really look like ? ( I don´t remember now about that )

Well, he probably knows that his father is there due to Leorio punching Ging or him recognizing Ging's friends. You know these two guys, who are sitting next to him, talked to Gon after he cleared Greed Island or it was his intuition, which is already superb. :D

cylixte
February 01, 2012, 07:13 AM
Does he knows, how his father really look like ? ( I don´t remember now about that )

It seems on this picture (http://www.imagebam.com/image/cecfb5172656505) that blondie (was it "Rist" or stg like that ?) points toward Ging

TemplateR
February 01, 2012, 07:27 AM
It seems on this picture (http://www.imagebam.com/image/cecfb5172656505) that blondie (was it "Rist" or stg like that ?) points toward Ging

Yes I know, but does he already know, how his fahter looks, without blondie is pointing it ?

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 07:32 AM
Yes I know, but does he already know, how his fahter looks, without blondie is pointing it ?

Well, if I'm not mistaken he had a picture of him when he was a bit younger then now.

edit: Found it. Here it is. (http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter1/153074-28.html) It's from the first chapter. He knows how Ging used to look like.

Reach
February 01, 2012, 07:38 AM
This is making me a little scared... While there are still some sub-plots to be resolved (Alluka/Killua vs Illumi? / 5000 ants?) Togashi could end both the story's main plot and the election in the next few chapters.
Does anyone have sources on Togashi's plan for the manga? How much longer will it go?

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 07:47 AM
This is making me a little scared... While there are still some sub-plots to be resolved (Alluka/Killua vs Illumi? / 5000 ants?) Togashi could end both the story's main plot and the election in the next few chapters.
Does anyone have sources on Togashi's plan for the manga? How much longer will it go?

I'm not sure but I think that along with the color spread there was suppossed to be an announcement regarding Hunter X Hunter itself. The question now remains will it be good or bad news. :(

lapchern
February 01, 2012, 08:37 AM
perhaps gon's new target will be killua

miotara
February 01, 2012, 08:37 AM
Yeah, that was a little too fast. I also have a bad feeling about this but it would depend on the translation I guess. For all we know Pariston is planning something nasty and Togashi just wants to get to that part fast and there are so many plots left open like Alluka, the ants, the x day, Kurapika and the spider. It's weird and definitely suspicious that Gon is meeting Gin now and not later... This is so frustrating, I can't keep up with Togashi's thinking at all, he always goes with something I don't expect...

Uriel
February 01, 2012, 08:41 AM
Gon said that the first thing He wanted to do was presenting Killua to Ging. So He still has an arc or two to go :P

miotara
February 01, 2012, 08:48 AM
Gon said that the first thing He wanted to do was presenting Killua to Ging. So He still has an arc or two to go :P

True there is still that :) I for one would laugh if Gon decided he didn't want to meet Gin unless he had Killua with him^^

kkck
February 01, 2012, 08:50 AM
I don't think gon will meet ging right now for a couple of reasons. The first one (and perhaps the least important one) is that gon was not doing the search he wanted to do. He did not track down ging at all, he merely found him because he happened to be there. The second (and perhaps more important one) is this: Killua is not with gon! How can gon meet ging without killua being there for him to introduce his best friend? (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v18/c185/9.html) IMO what will happen is that gon will scream at ging for him to continue hiding and that he will be found in time in gon's terms. I wonder what is gonna happen with the election though.

miotara
February 01, 2012, 08:56 AM
I can definitely see that happening; it sounds just like something Gon (and Togashi) would do. I want to know what will happen with the election too but I have to wait for the translation, too much dialogue to decipher on my own. Right now I'm attempting to figure out what the color page says, apparently there are some news in there but I'm not sure yet

Edit: Nope, nothing interesting in the color page. Just that the anime is popular, that there is a center color for the election climax and a phrase for Alluka (something allong the lines 'this hand holds both kindness and hatred' if my Japanese is right)

Naruffy
February 01, 2012, 09:07 AM
Ging's face at the end is just priceless, funny that he said he wanted to meet Gon alone and the complete opposite happens.

regalatre
February 01, 2012, 09:15 AM
I also see Gon turning down the offer to meet Ging. I would guess that he would provide Ging the chance to "escape" since this provides no challenge or use of his learned skills.

Another possibility is we'll see Ging use his hatsu to escape the situation ;-)

syx
February 01, 2012, 09:22 AM
Another possibility is we'll see Ging use his hatsu to escape the situation ;-)

I was thinking the same way. It would be a funny if we get a glimpse of Gings Nen-power when he decides to "run away" and others try to hold him up, without success of course.

Federicoxxx
February 01, 2012, 09:28 AM
OK!...

Gon is fine..and is young again..thats an awesome thing..

this chapter...seems it is very touching...

almost so much ..it scare the shit out of me...when i saw the spoilers

my inmediate tought was.daam.. this look like a perfect cute ending..

gon healed.. young..ging there.. leorio there..

all the hunter friendly gang..is there.. novu, biscuit, melody, knuckle ,moreau etc.

i have to admit i look the last page with fear.. insted of say 334 end..

my fear was like it will say :"HUNTER X HUNTER END"..

but still ..it would be weird considering. .there is lot of stuff going on...

i dont know if this.. is the end.. of the hunter election arc..

but you dont need to be a genius to know the next arc will be a mix of..

Pariston..evil plans..and true motives.. with Illumi hunting.. IT

maybe facing Killua.. once again

Uriel
February 01, 2012, 09:32 AM
I bet He has more than just one ability. The Panda might be related to it.
Although now I'm curious why Netero called him the Boar. So far the references were more and less accurate in terms of the myths: The Rat tricked the Bull and in his head He arrived first, the dog being loyal and the Bunny being somewhat the attention whore :P

hunted
February 01, 2012, 09:50 AM
cant wait ..
it will be epic chapter...
but what happen to killlua and illume...?

Naruto Sennin87
February 01, 2012, 09:53 AM
HxH 334 CHINESE HQ OUT (http://animeprodestiny.forumcommunity.net/?t=37822471#lastpost)

ish3
February 01, 2012, 10:53 AM
http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/36171805/1

It's been out for a while. Hmm so Pariston won or will Leorio drop out? Not so much a climax but I'm a tad confused. The story could go any way at this point. I love how in just 13+ chapters Togashi merged both the election arc he created and healing Gon. It is not only phenomenal it's the most well crafted combination I've ever seen in shonen history.

Tame
February 01, 2012, 10:53 AM
http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/36171805/1

Don't think a link to an English version has been posted yet. If it has, my apologies.

Awesome chapter! I really dislike Pariston for the same reasons as Cheadle and the others, but that also means I've fallen into his trap! :O And though I dislike him so much, I have to admit he's a freakin' genius!! If anyone correctly guessed his train of thought then kudos to you. And major kudos to Togashi!

EDIT: Haha, ish3 beat my a second! Sorry Goral, you're in third place! :P

Goral
February 01, 2012, 10:53 AM
http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/36171805/1
Edit:
lol
3 people doing the same thing at the same time :D.

Very good chapter, although Parriston resembled too much Aizen to be honest. In the end Togashi made us believe that Parriston had everything planned from the start. And while I can buy him believing in someone Ging believes in, I don't get why would he assume that Gon or whoever would even come in to the election. And very clever to leave the doors open so that anyone could disturb the event... I mean, didn't Zodiacs anticipate that Parriston would try to bring a shitstorm in case something wouldn't go according to his plan? So in the end this part was so-so IMO. What made the chapter very good was that Gon was finally healed and that we'll have Ging and Gon interaction. Also I'm really curious about what happened to Alluka and Killua and what will Illumi and the rest of the zodiacs do.

Ero-Sanji
February 01, 2012, 11:00 AM
Strange chapter. I don't really know what to feel. Pariston won or will do, soon, but the scene, the feeling wasn't that dramatic. Actually the opposite, Gon is healthy and so close to Ging. It feels somewhat anticlimactic, but without the disappointment since I know shit is about to go down. Ironically, Ging(and the good side) lost because he was too lazy and too optimistic of others.

Jack Van Burace
February 01, 2012, 11:14 AM
He didn't lose. Gin is optimistic because he knew too far ahead. He knows something Pariston doesn't.

Zvane
February 01, 2012, 11:17 AM
Ging's face.....HAHAHAH

Well....I wonder what's going to happen to Killua and Alluka....plus, with Tsubone and Amane near...I don't know, I just can't wait to read next chapter (although...I'm afraid to say...I'm feeling the H word coming close)

zelllogan
February 01, 2012, 11:20 AM
"I trust Gin as my enemy" ... In front of Pariston & Ging, the other zodiacs really seems to be jokes.
But Pariston didn't win yet. If leorio tell the assembly that his only decision as a chairman would be to follow Gon's view about hunters, it would be the end for Pariston

No killua in this chapter, I fear the worst for him.
And still no news at all about Kurapika.

vietdung08
February 01, 2012, 11:28 AM
chapter is out http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/36171805/2

PaperMaster-Yosh
February 01, 2012, 11:33 AM
The announcement has something to do with the anime. The last page of chapter 334 is an advertisement for the anime, and the numbers 2, 12 and 19 at the bottom of the ad is the date (Feb.12) of the 19th episode. I think the anime is getting a new OP and ED.

kkck
February 01, 2012, 11:41 AM
Interesting chapter..... Quite some foresight that good old pariston has. The interesting part is that I get the impression that aizen ging planned this far ahead too (with perhaps not everything going his way but still). What if ging calculated gon would appear right about now too? What if ging's words after pariston's provocation were calculated so as to lead pariston to where he is? I still don't think this quite makes sense with the whole quimera ant egg revelation either. What is pariston planning with this? What is ging planning to do with the information he has on the chimera ant eggs? I get the impression that ging is planning to drop a bomb regarding the eggs and expose whatever pariston did with them. He perhaps never meant for leorio to win the election but rather have someone different from pariston or even the zodiac win.

Teubier
February 01, 2012, 11:51 AM
Strange chapter. I don't really know what to feel. Pariston won or will do, soon, but the scene, the feeling wasn't that dramatic. Actually the opposite, Gon is healthy and so close to Ging. It feels somewhat anticlimactic, but without the disappointment since I know shit is about to go down. Ironically, Ging(and the good side) lost because he was too lazy and too optimistic of others.
I hope to feel from HxH once again what came out from the very beginning of the manga, and which would be the adventure~discovery that conveyed something full of enthusiasm. Although really enjoyed, the Ant arc felt a little heavy, and the start of this next one followed the same flow, so I’m glad to see Gon’s comeback and I wish that there will be a light and nice interlude before ‘shit goes down’ again. That chapter is a bit of a relief in that regard.


He didn't lose. Gin is optimistic because he knew too far ahead. He knows something Pariston doesn't.
That’s how it feels to me too. Heck, that’s how I felt from chapter 320’s first double spread when he stated his intent, I’d say he didn’t lose because he does not play the same game.
Completely unrelated, but looking at them here (http://www.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/334/18), it felt a bit like an older Kurapika~Gon~Leorio combination.

Host Samurai
February 01, 2012, 11:52 AM
This chapter was a 100/10!!!

I can't believe it, damn it, Pariston is a fucking genius. He fooled everyone but Ging during the election and most importantly he accomplished it with just one hint. He putted the pieces together and confirmed it later on. This is one scary deduction ability that Pariston has.

syx
February 01, 2012, 11:57 AM
Chapter was great. The last panel was very funny, but the most badass panel is where Pariston says: "I trust Ging, as an enemy. [...] I believe in him!!! Of course I do!!!"

Pariston surely is a monster. That's what I call a true villain, if he turns out to be one tough (lol)!

vietdung08
February 01, 2012, 12:01 PM
I'm curious who will be next chairman?

and what will be happened on Killua and his family?

Maybe Gon's discovery will come again about Killua's house.

kkck
February 01, 2012, 12:10 PM
What I don't quite get yet is how pariston knew gon was going to be that important that far back.... There is something that does not add up from his explanation.

Captain Sicarius
February 01, 2012, 12:19 PM
So out of the blue, hope Gon is not possesed or with complications or something lol.

mrsticky005
February 01, 2012, 12:36 PM
Just cause Gon found Ging doesn't mean the series is going to end.
Actually I'm 95% sure it won't. Too much is going on for it to end.

In fact I think this is where things are going to get VERY interesting. :^_^


The chances of Pariston winning are very high now. The Zodiacs have made this out to
be this terrible event to avoid. So now that it's about to happen will Togashi just end it?
I think not! We still have to see WHY it is such a bad thing for Pariston to be chairman.

What's this about wanting to change the Hunter Exam? Pariston has been introducing
all these changes. He's obviously up to something. But what? Togashi better not end
it and just leave us hanging!

Anyone notice that Killua is not there? I think there's a reason for that.
Killua is either dead or in EXTREMELY severe condition. How will Gon
react to such news?

What about Alluka? What's Alluka's condition. And will Illumi get Alluka's powers?

It won't be long before Hisoka finds out Gon is healed. Y'all know how Hisoka is.

Kurapica is still gone. I don't think Togashi just forgot him.
Kurapica is missing for a reason. What's going on with him?

Gon has obviously lost some of his memories. But how much?

Um...Gyro? He still needs to be evil.

Who is Gon's mother and what happened to her?

Ant Kite.

5000 Chimera Ant Hybrids.



Everything is so happy and feel good in this chapter. Which leads me to believe...

IT'S GONNA GET REALLY BAD REALLY FAST AND REALLY SOON.

Anywho I just hope Togashi doesn't end it. Things gotta get crazy before that!

mr.danly
February 01, 2012, 12:59 PM
What's this about wanting to change the Hunter Exam? Pariston has been introducing
all these changes. He's obviously up to something. But what? Togashi better not end
it and just leave us hanging!

He just explained it, he was just using that as a stalling tactic till Gon arrived.



Anyone notice that Killua is not there? I think there's a reason for that.
Killua is either dead or in EXTREMELY severe condition. How will Gon
react to such news?

No, Killua and Alluka ran the hell away. Didn't Killua say that after healing Gon, he would leave his side? And Killua knows that Illumi is still after Alluka, he just told them in their last meeting that Alluka would never be free until Killua revealed all the secrets. And Killua's vowed to protect Alluka from any harm, so he's almost certainly on the run.



It won't be long before Hisoka finds out Gon is healed. Y'all know how Hisoka is.

He's not going to try and kill him, if that's what you mean, Hisoka just wants to have fun and fight people. Maybe he thinks Gon is "ripe" now, but I doubt Hisoka would challenge Gon this soon.



Gon has obviously lost some of his memories. But how much?

How has he obviously lost some of his memories? Nothing in the chapter implied that.



Um...Gyro? He still needs to be evil.

Not necessarily, Gyro thus far has been shown to be an abused and extremely strong-willed character, but that's about it. In fact, some of the ants' undying admiration for him seem to imply that he has very good qualities, not an entirely terrible, evil person.

Goral
February 01, 2012, 01:05 PM
Has anyone else noticed how highly Parriston thinks about himself? "I'm not exactly God", lol. I would say even a half-god would be freaking awesome.

ksfst
February 01, 2012, 01:37 PM
What I don't quite get yet is how pariston knew gon was going to be that important that far back.... There is something that does not add up from his explanation.

Indeed, I was puzzled by this too, something isn't adding up from his explanation, but then I decided to read the chapter where Pariston threatened Ging with Gon's condition. this page (http://www.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/319/13) to be exact.

Pariston knows about Gon's condition, furthermore, later we learn that he knows a lot about the ants, being the vice-chairman, he probably knew about everything that was going on that ant island (sorry, forgot its name) and how 'big' the events there 'were' (are, since gladly to him, it seems to be not over yet).
All this being the cause of Netero's death and thus this election.
As far as we know, Netero was a great Chairman, loved by almost everyone in the organization, and it isn't far fetched to think that anyone who fought alongside him in the event that led to his death would be considered a hero by all the other hunters; Even more Gon, why? Just look at the condition he put himself to defeat Pitou; Of course, we, as readers, know that Gon didn't do any of that for Netero nor the Hunter Organization, he did it to avenge Kaito, he did it out of selfishness, he didn't even think about the consequences and how this would affect his close friends (Killua being the most affected by this act), but this isn't important right now in the election, because as I said, this is what we, as readers, know; what the hunters know is what Leorio told them right here (http://www.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/332/8). That Gon is indeed a hero for the organization.

Let me go back a little to Pariston and why his line of thinking might not be missing anything before I continue with Gon's selfishness and Ging's intents.
About Pariston:
1: He knows about the ants more than any hunter that wasn't there actually fighting them.
2: He probably was one of the first to know about Netero's death and the real cause of it.
3: He knows about Gon antics against the ants.
This would be already enough for him to think how Gon would be important in the election (being a hero figure), but Gon was in his death bed, and things weren't looking good for him. Then Ging himself 'praises' Gon saying "Gon won't die!". Pariston then knew that Gon would be undoubtedly very important to the election and that he could use him to his advantage. Gon in his death bed was never interesting to Pariston (it would actually be his dismiss); he was really counting on Ging's words and Gon getting healed.


What we don't know yet and we might discover next chapter is what Ging's real intentions were/are. and it resumes to:
Why the hell did he change places with Leorio?
Maybe he was/is thinking much far ahead than even Pariston was.
About Ging:
1: He probably knows about everything (ants, Gon, Netero's death) as much as Pariston if not more.
2: He knew Gon wouldn't die and eventually would get healed, thus using the speech Leorio used would eventually fail. (this probably being the reason why he choose to trade places with Leorio by allowing that punch to connect)

But what now? Now we have hunters asking Gon to make a speech and become a candidate (http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/36171805/19)
How will Ging use this to turn the election to his side, does he actually want that? I don't think Ging is that opposed to Pariston winning the election, I don't think he even cares about it. If Pariston is an enigmatic character, Ging is twice as enigmatic as him, you can't read the man nor underestimate his actions/line of thinking. What makes he even more scarier and surrounded by this encrypted aura, is that for what we know, he's frigging powerful, something we are not so sure about Pariston.
Maybe Pariston might seem more dangerous because we are all led to think that he's evil, he's a shady character with shady intentions. But who knows by this point what Ging might be up to?

Phantron
February 01, 2012, 01:40 PM
From the way it's described it looks like if Gin won the election as Pariston predicted, Pariston would still be able to get his change to Hunter exam, and presumably bring in his ant soldiers and no one can stop him even if Gin becomes the chairman.

Now he's the chairman but he promised to retract his motion. I got the feeling the plan was to sacrifice the position of the chairman (let Pariston win) to get him to concede on his other plans. After all, if he successfully got the Hunter exam changed, not even the entire organization can stop him after he gets the ant soldiers their Hunter status.

If you look at the strategy involved, both Pariston and Gin assumed initially that Pariston cannot win. Gin predicted a stalemate, and Pariston predicted he'll lose to Gin. The twist should be that Pariston indeed won, but he had to give up his motion to change the Hunter exam (which he was going to do even if he lost) for the victory. I assume he gave it up because he was about to win, so that way it'll look too much like an obvious power grab. I.e. his original plan was probaby like, "It looks like I lost this but I want to make one last change for the good of the Association." Now that he's assured victory, he can't request that without looking like power-hungry.

Fox666
February 01, 2012, 03:01 PM
No killua in this chapter, I fear the worst for him.
"The ones who are cursed are those who make the wishes!!"

What could be the worst thing that could happen to Killua, being on the very same state as Gon?

LoneLobo
February 01, 2012, 03:50 PM
Just my 2 cents for a change in a discussion topic ;)

Will Gon meet Ging now?
I vote for "No"! Why? It would be totally boring. Gon was supposed to hunt him down, which did not really happen... and he also wants to meet Ging together with his best friend, Killua. So I think Gon will turn around or so before a "real meeting" happens. At most they will exchange a few words, or Gon might shout "I will find you for real next time and then I will introduce you to my friend." Meeting Ging now would be like cheating for Gon. I really doubt it will happen.

Memory loss
Could be, but I doubt it.

Not telling who healed him
Now, we know that Killua wants to free Alluka. To do this, he has to run away from the family and away from Illumi. Possible scenario: he does not want to get Gon involved in this whole conflict, so he ran away alone (with Alluka). Maybe he even said to Mr. Smoke: "Tell Gon I died on the Ant battlefield."

Jack Van Burace
February 01, 2012, 03:56 PM
My bet is that Alluka's next pestering was that Killua would renounce his own will and take on the family leadership. It would really drive Killua away from Gon, he would be renouncing the freedom to walk with his friend to be an assassin, something he hates. What better "punishment" for Killua than to please the ones that love him in exchange for saving one he loves?

zelllogan
February 01, 2012, 04:03 PM
"The ones who are cursed are those who make the wishes!!"

What could be the worst thing that could happen to Killua, being on the very same state as Gon?
I think that there will be an heavy price for Alluka's request. I just don't see such a powerful technique without a huge drawback.
And for me, the worst price Killua can pay is the following: "Gon will live but your friendship for him will be gone forever."

Something similar to what happened to the wolf in the canadian tv serie "lost girl" ...

mrsticky005
February 01, 2012, 04:26 PM
He just explained it, he was just using that as a stalling tactic till Gon arrived.

Perhaps...Though I still think he's up to something.


No, Killua and Alluka ran the hell away. Didn't Killua say that after healing Gon, he would leave his side? And Killua knows that Illumi is still after Alluka, he just told them in their last meeting that Alluka would never be free until Killua revealed all the secrets. And Killua's vowed to protect Alluka from any harm, so he's almost certainly on the run.

Where did Killua say that? Besides Alluka's ability is a give and take. There has to be some consequence for Gon's healing.

He's not going to try and kill him, if that's what you mean, Hisoka just wants to have fun and fight people. Maybe he thinks Gon is "ripe" now, but I doubt Hisoka would challenge Gon this soon.

Well you never know with Hisoka.

How has he obviously lost some of his memories? Nothing in the chapter implied that.

Well for one thing he doesn't realize that he was badly injured. Plus before he was injured he was fighting Pitou who he was really pissed off at for killing Kite. But now he's seemed to completely forgotten about that which is strange since that it was extremely tragic event for him. Also he hasn't asked
"Hey where's Killua?" (or Kurapica).

Not necessarily, Gyro thus far has been shown to be an abused and extremely strong-willed character, but that's about it. In fact, some of the ants' undying admiration for him seem to imply that he has very good qualities, not an entirely terrible, evil person.

Gyro's mission is to spread evil across the globe. The dude is evil. People saw good qualities in Hitler but that doesn't make him a good guy.


I'm gonna be really annoyed if Togashi ends it after all this build up.

Not counting the Alluka Arc all we got is speeches and voting percentages.

If it's just gonna end like this then this has been the worst arc ever and Pariston will be the lamest antagonist ever.

But hopefully Togashi isn't gonna disappoint.

Sea Hunter
February 01, 2012, 06:39 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Pariston for chairman!!!! :nowei :yay :onoz :whoo :yaha

Damn i thought he was a genius but he's even way more than that!!!!!11ONEONE

Just read the chapter now so i posted without reading other comments, will read them now :P

tobeulp
February 01, 2012, 06:47 PM
Gyro's mission is to spread evil across the globe. The dude is evil. People saw good qualities in Hitler but that doesn't make him a good guy.


I'm gonna be really annoyed if Togashi ends it after all this build up.

Not counting the Alluka Arc all we got is speeches and voting percentages.

If it's just gonna end like this then this has been the worst arc ever and Pariston will be the lamest antagonist ever.

But hopefully Togashi isn't gonna disappoint.

I disagree with you with being this arc being the worst arc yeah we didn't get battle but all the psychological battle with the zodiac and Pariston makes this one of the most unique arc... For me I like all the battle but most of the shounen series are like this what makes HunterXHunter unique because it could have an epic arc of fighting and an epic arc dealing with mind battle...

mrsticky005
February 01, 2012, 07:44 PM
I disagree with you with being this arc being the worst arc yeah we didn't get battle but all the psychological battle with the zodiac and Pariston makes this one of the most unique arc... For me I like all the battle but most of the shounen series are like this what makes HunterXHunter unique because it could have an epic arc of fighting and an epic arc dealing with mind battle...

I haven't said it is the worst arc. I said it WILL be if it just ends like that. But I'm hoping it doesn't end like that and we get the payoff.

Psychological battle? I actually like psychological battles but if the series end like the next chapter then this will just be boring.

The zodiac are joke psychological wise. The only two that have any shred of intelligence is Ging and Pariston and they don't give a crap.
Cheadle is as dumb as rocks. I don't care how smart the manga says she is. She's an idiot and the dullest character this manga created.
The only thing worthwhile about the Zodiac are there designs. But even Kanzai who was at one point my favorite Zodiac is now
just plain lame. There are no real "stakes' in this so called "mind battle". Yeah they made Pariston winning out to be like the worse
thing in the world but as a reader I have yet to see why. So far all it really is is that Pariston annoys them because they're idiots
and so they don't want him to win. Yes we have all the "conspiracies" about him but they're just that conspiracies. We don't
even know if they're true or not. Really as far as we actually know Pariston is just an annoying good guy character. Which would be lame.

The previous arcs of HxH have been FAR more psychological than this one is. This one is just a lot of blabbering.

You know what a REAL psychological battle is? Leorio vs Leroute and I'm not taking about the 1999 anime version
with that absurd Evil Psychologist Leroute who was all like "Your friends hate you". I mean the manga version
where she and Leorio are gambling time. THAT was real psychology because it actually MATTERED if Leorio lost
because it would cause the team to lose time which would risk them losing the Hunter Exam which was
obviously very important to them considering that they had almost died or risked serious injury a few times
to obtain an Hunter's License. And there was pretty much no fist fighting action in that "fight."
That was good psychological entertainment. This arc is just boring. Unless something changes.


But I sincerely hope I'm wrong and this arc is just the beginning of something great.

Sea Hunter
February 01, 2012, 07:50 PM
Actually for me even if the arc (not manga) ends like this it's still the best / most enjoyable arc i ever read among all shounen.

Federicoxxx
February 01, 2012, 07:54 PM
I wonder . . if this TRULY the end of "Chairman election Arc"

if it is.. what kind of thing will be the next Objective/Treath to eliminate ?

Jairo?

Pariston Evil plans ?

Illumi Hunt for IT ?

i dunno .but i think Gon ..will prefer not 2 meet.. Ging.. till he is more Strong..

thats exactly what Ging Want too ...

i predict will see a Twist Next chap....

instead of... go Running besides Ging..

Gon will back away..with that Thought.. on his mind,,,

as for Killua.. and Alluka... .now.. Illumi has been witness of such

magnificent Power...the way Back home.. smells like Trouble...

Also ..even if Illumi ..obtain somehow IT power

bet your ass.. he is a Candidate on "HISOKA`S FIGHT CLUB" LIST

Uriel
February 01, 2012, 08:08 PM
Pariston is god.
But I was alright all along. He, as Ging, plan things as they come. :derp

What was the most weird thing for me is Killua not allowing anyone to tell Gon He saved him. I mean...WHY? He wants to disappear now?

He didn't lose. Gin is optimistic because he knew too far ahead. He knows something Pariston doesn't.
I'm counting on this too, but I just can't see how He will change the outcome. Unless Gon says "Vote for Leorio" that could actually work for the best.

No killua in this chapter, I fear the worst for him.
Damn, you made me nervous now. O_O

Pariston surely is a monster. That's what I call a true villain, if he turns out to be one tough (lol)!
The most interesting villains are those who you can't exactly tag them as so.
Boring villains are the ones you immediately hate but because they're just jerks.


What I'm sure right now is that we're not in the climax of this arc...We were just on climax of the election. Now the second wave of events should start to amaze us.

mrsticky005
February 01, 2012, 08:21 PM
I wonder . . if this TRULY the end of "Chairman election Arc"

if it is.. what kind of thing will be the next Objective/Treath to eliminate ?

Jairo?

Pariston Evil plans ?

Illumi Hunt for IT ?

i dunno .but i think Gon ..will prefer not 2 meet.. Ging.. till he is more Strong..

thats exactly what Ging Want too ...

i predict will see a Twist Next chap....

instead of... go Running besides Ging..

Gon will back away..with that Thought.. on his mind,,,

as for Killua.. and Alluka... .now.. Illumi has been witness of such

magnificent Power...the way Back home.. smells like Trouble...

Also ..even if Illumi ..obtain somehow IT power

bet your ass.. he is a Candidate on "HISOKA`S FIGHT CLUB" LIST


Hopefully it's NOT the end because I really do think this COULD be the best HxH arc.

Basically right now we got build up. But build up is only good if there is pay off.

So far there has been little to no payoff.

But I hope and I expect there will be.

kkck
February 01, 2012, 09:08 PM
Anyone remembers yu yu hakusho? The manga started being about a spirit detective and then it changed to a full blown martial arts/fighting for the sake of the world manga.... In this particular regard, it would not be THAT weird if gon did meet his dad, a change in focus in the manga would not be all that terrible. Perhaps it would even be interesting to see what gon makes of himself after his goal of finding ging is fulfilled. I do kinda lean towards gon refusing to meet him though, just wanted to make the previous point lol.

hokageji
February 01, 2012, 10:12 PM
Man what a chapter....... HxH has been stealing the shounen spotlight for weeks, and it keeps getting better...


Killua made some promise to Gon and his Dad right? I am thinking his disappearing has something to do with it. Gon seemed exactly like before, that makes allukas abilities the strongest in the series...

It will be interesting to see how Gin escapes from the scene, I am sure this will not be their meeting place, Gon might actually initiate that part..

Of course, the highlight of the entire chapter is Pariston, he managed to control so many people, without even using any abilities....

Noonealive
February 02, 2012, 01:35 AM
We Know so far from this arc ..wait....no... since the beginning of the series that Ging isn't just some normal guy. Im positive hes gonna pull some slick moves to get out of the situation between him and Gon. Everyone was surprised that Ging had even showed up to the meeting to elect the next chairman. From what im seeing Ging certainly has something up his sleeve..I pray to god he does atleast... lol

As for Pariston i can't predict wtf he's gonna do next.. lol Hopefully Gon says something that completely throws him of his game. As we all know Gon always speaks his mind.

NUMBER 1 reason why i know this series is not gonna end.

GON VS HISOKA plain and simple =]]]]]]

Fox666
February 02, 2012, 02:24 AM
Why people think the series will end just because Gon meet Ging? I always tought he would do so mid-way to the story.

ashher
February 02, 2012, 03:06 AM
Interesting that togashi sensei took the two most expected routes in both the crises he built up in this arc, and yet he did them so well that even anti-climatic events feel this satisfactory. Imo the most impressive thing in this chapter was what did not come to happen. Pariston playing for time is something most us could see, but the idea behind the motion he brought was truly marvelous. Its a motion that was likely to be supported by terradin faction, plus pariston's supporters. If that was passed, then the chairman's power would've been greatly reduced...meaning that pariston would've crippled the new chairman even if he were defeated, and might've used that to his advantage to save the hatching eggs somehow. Wonderful plan B.

Uriel
February 02, 2012, 06:55 AM
Gon will meet Ging.

But don't worry...It can't be the end without Killua there.

ordoghaz
February 02, 2012, 07:01 AM
Interesting that the whole time pariston was smiling and charming his way out he actually thought he was losing and the when cheadle thought she got him. Pariston actually already realised he's getting what he wants plus more he could actually win... I would like to believe gon can actually shift things round from here although it would be interesting to have pariston as new chairman

shionoro
February 02, 2012, 07:21 AM
I'd like to see some zodiac awesomeness soon.

We know those guys are incredibly strong or smartor useful, but we didnt come to see much.

Pariston, at the moment, plays with them,with cheadle being the only one who can barely put up a fight and even she is getting humiliated by ariston on a regular basis.


Also,i really wanna know what happened to killua and kurapica



At the moment, think Pariston was involved in the roduction of the queen and purposefully used the king to get rid of netero, since i bet netero gave him a hard time.
Alas,we don't know whether pariston is 100% evil or just like a cat playing with mouses.
we don't know his motivse yet, for all we know, he could attempt worldpeace with all those ants.

Jack Van Burace
February 02, 2012, 07:32 AM
There's no third option in the poll?

For me Pariston has always been a terrible villain. He's always been a hateful character and easy to spot: he'll try to get the election, so in the end, just like when Gon robbed Hisoka, one can be sure of what his move is going to be. He'll ultimately try to get the number one spot, there's where he's going to be, so regardless of what happens in between, one just needs to sit tight and wait for that moment. Just as Gon took Hisoka's badge when he was going to strike a victim, now is the time for taking down Pariston. One doesn't have to be a genius to figure that out.

Pariston cannot take Gin down, as there's nothing Gin wants. There's nowhere you can expect him to be, and even when you know where he is, there's no telling if he'll even do something to achieve his goals, leaving him in the open. Gin won't ever be an easy target, because he doesn't throw himself into things. Pariston already is. He may think nobody expected him to get where he is, but Gin already shown how much he trusts Pariston as a foe.

Gin's trust on Pariston assured him that Mr. Hill would be there to claim his goal. Pariston was going to get there, no matter what. That's why Gin is the only one in there that is one step ahead of Pariston, the only other person that knew this was going to happen. And because I trust Gin, I know he'll finally do something now (or won't have to).

I know part of this is me being a fanboy, but I think Gin stole this chapter.

Teubier
February 02, 2012, 07:53 AM
I agree, two options seems a little short. As for me, I think that Killua stole this chapter with his absence.

ashher
February 02, 2012, 11:57 AM
I'll feel really disappointed if gon doesn't meet his father in the next chapter.

Sakazuki
February 02, 2012, 12:07 PM
After this chpater, I would really like to see a a ParixtonxHisoka mind game.

Jack Van Burace
February 02, 2012, 12:27 PM
I'm also betting on Gon not finding his father, just seeing him and discarding that possibility since it wasn't fair. They might talk a little, and then agree on distancing each other again until Gon actually finds him and presents him Killua. Actually, seeing Gin will only act as a way for Gon to recall the disappearing of Killua and decide to do something about it.

However, Morau and the others thought well when they brought Gon to the election room: he cannot leave the place before the election ends. Killua will be safe from meeting Gon, whatever the reason there is for that. Also, Gon might be pushed into getting involved in the election just to get it over with, so that he may find Killua.

k-dom
February 02, 2012, 12:36 PM
What a refreshing cover ! It's sad Togashi has not color pages more often.

ibra87
February 02, 2012, 01:37 PM
The fact that Killua is hiding some sort of rule makes it seem to me that he knows how to avoid having to pay the price in the normal manner, and I think it's what he's hiding from his parents. My guess is he had to disappear since the butlers were with him and pretty much had to hide Alluka from Gon, not to mention run away from Illumi - he'd be a pretty easy target at the election. That or Illumi already has him on the way home (which would contradict what Killua seems to want for Alluka?).

And regarding Gon and Ging, Ging thought "Though I thought this would happen..." so I have no doubt if he doesn't want to see Gon, he pretty much already has a plan to disappear.

Sachsenhesse
February 02, 2012, 03:51 PM
Ging will become the next chairman. :D Ever since Pariston said that he knew what was happening since ging telled him, that gon will live... i was like: Ging is leading Pariston. He is the only one who really knows, why pariston plays like he plays and what he is doing. I dont believe that pariston will win cause of a fault of ging.

My bet: Ging knew Gon was gonna cured and would be play a big role in the end. (Heck some guys even screamed gon should be become next chairman) So he will use him as an advantage for himsel.... to win the votecollectiongame. :o Mindfuck over mindfuck and cheadle will get mad, cause he used her like a little puppy.

heron bpv
February 02, 2012, 05:34 PM
To answer the quiz: even though Pariston's ability to adapt to situations on the fly (and see far ahead, too) is amazing, I believe we've been waiting to see Gon for quite a while, more than a year. It bring quite the nice feeling seeing him and his characteristic smile again ^^
Also, new here, but old lurker, hi all o/

mrsticky005
February 02, 2012, 07:12 PM
Why people think the series will end just because Gon meet Ging? I always tought he would do so mid-way to the story.

Well I think there's plenty more to go in the story and I don't think it will end.

But with all the hiatuses and with how Yu Yu Hakusho ended I'm slightly worried.

Hopefully I'm worried for nothing and the manga continues to go strong.




BTW I've said that I'm getting a bit tired of this Chairman Election Arc.
Well on a more positive note I did think it was a good chapter. Gon's
recovery was a nice scene and it's good to see him back in the manga.
Plus Gon meeting Ging is going to be rather interesting.

Still it's like I'm waiting for something interesting to happen with
the actual election. I dunno maybe AFTER the new chairman is elected
things will start to get more interesting again.

I just gotta be patient.

Uriel
February 02, 2012, 08:10 PM
Yup, I know the options were short. It's meant that way. Mwahahaha.

To answer the quiz: even though Pariston's ability to adapt to situations on the fly (and see far ahead, too) is amazing, I believe we've been waiting to see Gon for quite a while, more than a year. It bring quite the nice feeling seeing him and his characteristic smile again ^^
Also, new here, but old lurker, hi all o/
His smile may be there, but I'll get really bitchy if His personality didn't changed. A lot.

And welcome. :D

elitefox
February 03, 2012, 03:53 AM
Yup, I know the options were short. It's meant that way. Mwahahaha.

His smile may be there, but I'll get really bitchy if His personality didn't changed. A lot.

And welcome. :D

Do you think Gin's plans ends there with Leorio?

Uriel
February 03, 2012, 07:09 AM
Do you think Gin's plans ends there with Leorio?
Not really. I said before that Pariston and Ging doesn't have plans in which they fit people...They make plan in the go, as the MEET people. Leorio was a lucky coincidence for Ging but I don't He has further plans for him. Unless He wants to dominate him when He becomes the chairman.

Since He gets bored quite fast, I doubt.

hunted
February 03, 2012, 07:23 AM
i know gon appearance is a big surprise but
what paris done and his speech in that chapter steel the lights...
and about ending the series it is all back to toghashi to end or continue it
and there is alot of things didnt done like jayro and gyene roudan and many things...

joshua019
February 03, 2012, 10:45 AM
dont count Leorio out yet the reaction he made when he saw gon might move the hunters to vote for him, i know it sounds cliche but we all seen it many times now in different mangas

Federicoxxx
February 03, 2012, 11:18 AM
i Been thinking a lot , why Pariston Care soo much ..for the abolition..

OF the Hunter Exams Regulations...

Also for..

Third commandment

3.No matter what may happen one who has become a hunter
will never have their title revoked. However no matter
the circumstances a hunter license will never be issued a second time.


Also Four Commandment

4.Hunters may not hunt their fellow hunters except for those who have commited atrocities


My guess... is..

I think there is a lot of People as Pariston....i m sure he is insanely smart.. and efficient..
in Politics and elections.. but i m not SOOO SURE if he a Pure Blood fighter as Hisoka...

In resume. .my guess.. he want More people like him Join the HxH Association..
people who is IMPOSSIBLE Smart.and Dangerous as he is
. but not strong enought to.. pass the exam as it is Now..

Also Abolition of 4th Commandment... is of course.. to reinforce such evil intentions...
yeah right..so people as Hisoka and Illumi who already are monsters..
they wont have to even worried..to be stopped..for the FEW people who currently can do such a thing...

i have no Doubt.. Pariston ..is ..and WILL destroy HxH Organization from Inside Out..

BurnSchulz
February 03, 2012, 04:16 PM
Just a random thought:

So if i remember right the relatives and / or Friends of the ones who cant fullfill allukas requests will die. (Depending on how powerfulll the wish was before - the more people will dissapear.)

So what if Killua now brings alluka to one of the Chimera Ant Hybrids and (evil) he wants that this Hybrid fullfill the request, what that Hybrid cant do of course.

Wont that maybe kill all of that 5000 Chimera Hybrids?

- Problem Solved.

----------------


Btw i just wanted to vote for Moraou, because his epic Face is priceless. This panel definately stole the chapter in my opinion.

Noonealive
February 03, 2012, 06:17 PM
This just came to mind. I have an eyrie feeling were not gonna see Gon and Ging meet each other in the next chapter. Togashi is probably gonna focus on Killua and such for a bit to build up the suspense. Im hoping i'm WRONG!

Sea Hunter
February 03, 2012, 07:54 PM
Pariston doesn't care about commandment 3 or 4 nor does he wants to change them, he only said so; so he can stall for time till Gon arrives (he was clear about it to cheadel) hence why he said "i retract my motion" .
As for Ging i doubt he has anything else up his sleeve for the elections, Pariston knew he was going to loose against Ging but then the ting with Leorio happened and he pushed Leorio in his stead, the only reason Ging did that because he doesn't want to be chairman he said before he gets bored fast and he also said when making the election rules to Mr. Beans that he had no interest in all that headache he'll have from being chairman.
So nope sorry people who still have hope for Leorio but Pariston is the next chairman :pwned

Btw Uriel what happened to the voting threads? best manga/villain etc i can't find them :headscratch

Phantron
February 03, 2012, 08:02 PM
Pariston winning the election is basically like Prince Baka becoming the King and end up being a relatively normal bureaucrat in Level E. Even the greatest evil in the galaxy can be defeated by bureaucracy.

It is clear that the position of chairman saddles one with a huge amount of attention and scrunity. Pariston, who has all along run under the "I'm totally open to any suggestions" slogan, cannot simply say, "It's now my way or the highway!" If he wants to change the election policies as the chairman, expect to see heavy opposition and the Hunter's Association is still some kind of democracy as far as I can tell.

Therefore, winning the election is really a 'worst-case scenario' for Pariston. That's why he said 'well, I'm not exactly God', because if he was God, he wouldn't win the election. We can tell that abolishing the existing Hunter's exam is a huge priority for him. To become chairman, he had to give that up because he can't give the appearance that he's power-hungry after claiming to be totally open to all suggestions. Basically he has 3 plans, in the order of preference:

1. Stall the election, and when X day comes declare that since he's the acting chairman, they got to abolish the existing ways.

2. Lose the election, but use that as an excuse to abolish the existing ways (this looks like it could've succeeded).

3. Win the election, and then very slowly work his way to try to abolish the existing ways (the Zodiac will definitely oppose him on every effort).

Gin foresaw #1 as the likely outcome (since he can't be bothered to stick around for the entire election), while Pariston probably thought #2 was the likely outcome (he assumes Gin will stick around the whole time). Leorio's sudden appearance made #3 the result. Pariston winning is probably a win-win situation, in the sense that it is the best case for the guys opposing him. If Pariston didn't win, he'd likely have succeeded in getting the existing rules abolished (which he took back after his victory was assured), and we can tell from the Zodiac's reaction that having the existing exam rules abolished hurts them far more than Pariston winning since that pretty much completely changes the way all future generations of Hunters will be selected.

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Pariston doesn't care about commandment 3 or 4 nor does he wants to change them, he only said so; so he can stall for time till Gon arrives (he was clear about it to cheadel) hence why he said "i retract my motion" .


He retracted the motion because after Gon came back, it's clear he's going to win. He works very hard to avoid any appearance of power hungry, yet if he continue to push for such a motion while his victory is assured, people will accuse him of trying to setup a stranglehold on his powerbase. As he said, he can only make that suggestion at this exact time and position, because it appears he's going to lose, so nobody can accuse him of being power hungry.

Now why didn't he just try to hurry up so he can lose the election and get his motion passed? I assume all the speech time is not something he can control. Looking at the timeframe, even if Pariston asked no question and just filed the emergency motion immediately, it seems like Gon would've got back before the voting is done.

heron bpv
February 03, 2012, 08:48 PM
That's why he said 'well, I'm not exactly God', because if he was God, he wouldn't win the election.

Sorry, but I believe it's pretty clear that he said so because he was expecting to see Gon opening the doors at that very moment. We don't know Pariston's desires, as he only made clear when he realized the outcoming of the election. It's very strange to assume that someone who wouldn't want to become chairman made a move to win in the most crucial moment. Also, during the chapter, it's show that he realized that Gon was cured after sensing Alluka's nen surge.
I do agree that assuming this position will put him under heavier restrictions than those of a vice chairman, but so far Pariston has been depicted as someone who enjoy playing under disadvantageous circunstances, which seens to contradict your theory that he don't want to win. In fact, as Ging said so, he doesn't care about winning or losing the election (hence Ging's realization of the stall). As for what exactly he cares at the moment, the only clues so far are the ant cocoons, and nothing else.

Phantron
February 04, 2012, 03:03 AM
Sorry, but I believe it's pretty clear that he said so because he was expecting to see Gon opening the doors at that very moment. We don't know Pariston's desires, as he only made clear when he realized the outcoming of the election. It's very strange to assume that someone who wouldn't want to become chairman made a move to win in the most crucial moment. Also, during the chapter, it's show that he realized that Gon was cured after sensing Alluka's nen surge.
I do agree that assuming this position will put him under heavier restrictions than those of a vice chairman, but so far Pariston has been depicted as someone who enjoy playing under disadvantageous circunstances, which seens to contradict your theory that he don't want to win. In fact, as Ging said so, he doesn't care about winning or losing the election (hence Ging's realization of the stall). As for what exactly he cares at the moment, the only clues so far are the ant cocoons, and nothing else.

Like I said it's like Togashi's other work, Level E, where bureaucracy can defeat the most evil entity in the galaxy. This isn't about a challenge. This is about Pariston probably having a future where he gets crushed by mindnumbing paperworks, rules, and meetings and as a chairman he absolutely can't get around that. Of course he will still be up to whatever his plans are, but it's just going to be way harder because he'll now have to deal with the evil known as bureaucracy.

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To outline how the events should've played out from each's view...

Gin, like he stated, predicted a stalemate.

Pariston, like he stated, predicted Gin would win (he didn't know Gin would get bored so quickly).

However Chidol's plan to lock everyone up made the stalemate outcome impossible (people will want to go home eventually and actually vote for someone).

Pariston presumably had a plan to get the Hunter exam rules abolished even against Gin, since it's stated his focus was not actually winning the fight.

Neither Gin nor Pariston foresaw Leorio being one of the final candidate. Gin thought it'd be between Pariston and Chidol, and Pariston obviously wasn't prepared for Chidol making a push for Leorio as the final candidate.

The vote distribution that Chidol figured out should be obvious to Pariston, so he knows at that point Leorio could get the majority in the round of 4. If his goal was to lose, he can lose right there.

However, as he stated in his speech, he only brought up his plan to abolish the Exam rules when there are no members of the Zodiac left, because he doesn't want to look like he's attempting to circumvent the Zodiacs. At this point, there are still Zodiac amongst the candidates, so if Pariston lost there, he'd just flat out lose. So he has to make his speech to split some votes to prevent Leorio from winning outright.

However, at that time he also felt the energy, and according to him he already knew that means Gon was getting healed.

This means there isn't enough time for him to lose the election as he planned, because where Gon is at is extremely close. This is the part he refers to "I'm not exactly God". He planned to lose the election, but he ran out of time because he had to stall the round of 4 (Zodiacss still candidates), and there isn't enough time to pass his emergency motion and then lose the election.

So he ended up having to become the chairman which was never his intention.

weo1weo1weo1
February 04, 2012, 03:30 AM
I think that there will be an heavy price for Alluka's request. I just don't see such a powerful technique without a huge drawback.
And for me, the worst price Killua can pay is the following: "Gon will live but your friendship for him will be gone forever."

Something similar to what happened to the wolf in the canadian tv serie "lost girl" ...

Wait... I thought that when Alluka was used to heal that there were no consicuences? It was revealed by Killua when he used Alluka to heal the maid's hand to show Illumi, then Illumi left them alone because he could be sure that there would be no complications. If this is not true then can someone explain what happened on that page cuz I don't get it then lol!

Phantron
February 04, 2012, 04:36 AM
Wait... I thought that when Alluka was used to heal that there were no consicuences? It was revealed by Killua when he used Alluka to heal the maid's hand to show Illumi, then Illumi left them alone because he could be sure that there would be no complications. If this is not true then can someone explain what happened on that page cuz I don't get it then lol!

It's obvious that Killua is leaving out key details regarding Alluka's ability. The Zs are not people who you should take their word unless they swear by the *exchange*. Given the way HXH universe works, it's hard to imagine there's an ability that lets you heal anybody for nothing.

Teubier
February 04, 2012, 04:50 AM
Given the way HXH universe works, it's hard to imagine there's an ability that lets you heal anybody for nothing.
It depends. I most certainly can imagine it, from what seems like a god-like entity to me.

Ero-Sanji
February 04, 2012, 04:56 AM
It is clear that the position of chairman saddles one with a huge amount of attention and scrunity. Pariston, who has all along run under the "I'm totally open to any suggestions" slogan, cannot simply say, "It's now my way or the highway!" If he wants to change the election policies as the chairman, expect to see heavy opposition and the Hunter's Association is still some kind of democracy as far as I can tell.

Though I understand your argument I can't agree with it. Napoleon, Caesar and Hitler, three of the worlds worst dictators all achieved their powers through democracy in democratic states. I see no reason why Pariston couldn't do the same. Yes, the position is under a huge amount of attention, but then again how many in the Hunters associations know of Netero's death or the ants at large?

HelixEpsilon
February 04, 2012, 06:39 AM
Though I understand your argument I can't agree with it. Napoleon, Caesar and Hitler, three of the worlds worst dictators all achieved their powers through democracy in democratic states.

Ok... Seeing those three names together, why not add Pariston indeed..

I kind of understand Napoleon next to Hitler, because of the death toll and atrocities subsequent to the Napoleonic wars (even if the ethnic purification philosophy of the Nazis and the scale of the program make it almost unfit for any comparison), but why Julius Caesar??


Sorry for the off topic, just curious (please just mp me if you want)

k-dom
February 04, 2012, 08:14 AM
Actually those 3 achieved their power through deliquescent democracies. And democracy is really a nice term for the roman republic and the directoire, oligarchy is more close to the truth

Zvane
February 04, 2012, 10:49 AM
Wait... I thought that when Alluka was used to heal that there were no consicuences? It was revealed by Killua when he used Alluka to heal the maid's hand to show Illumi, then Illumi left them alone because he could be sure that there would be no complications. If this is not true then can someone explain what happened on that page cuz I don't get it then lol!

I don't think Killua lied about Alluka's healing conditions
First of all, he's terrified of Illumi, plus, Tsubone was there and she stated that the whole Zoldyck family was also watching.
So I don't think there's gonna be any kind of backlash (since all ALluka's prices are turning people into minced meat, not the emotional kind of price)
plus, there are also rules about command, not only wishes, that only Killua can use, so we have to take that into consideration. Maybe commands don't have any price, but can only be made by one person Nanika chooses....or something like that.
But no, I don't think there's going to be some kind of price.

Now, I think now Killua's on the run with Alluka, trying to get as far as they can from Illumi, who now got greedy and wants Nanika's power for himself, and I think, it'll also has the little advantage of controlling Killua as he always wanted to (remember the Z chart).

and I guess Gon, after meeting Ging, will try to hunt Killua...and in the way, he'll run into Kurapica and the Spiders.

I don't know why you all make such a big deal about Jairo, I don't think he's of any importance to the story

joshua019
February 04, 2012, 11:07 AM
Healing Gon must have costed something!! it seems to be impossible to be able to completely heal someone who has in the borderline of death. She said that every time she used 'nanika' she goes to 'sleep' may be this time she would probably sleep for quite a while!

Ero-Sanji
February 04, 2012, 11:33 AM
Actually those 3 achieved their power through deliquescent democracies. And democracy is really a nice term for the roman republic and the directoire, oligarchy is more close to the truth

True, but no democracy is like the other in reality. Athenians and early Americans had slaves and women with no voting rights, yet they had democracy. In Sweden we have a king and thus monarchy, but Sweden is still regarded as a democratic country.


Ok... Seeing those three names together, why not add Pariston indeed..

I kind of understand Napoleon next to Hitler, because of the death toll and atrocities subsequent to the Napoleonic wars (even if the ethnic purification philosophy of the Nazis and the scale of the program make it almost unfit for any comparison), but why Julius Caesar??

It's actually not a matter of being evil or not since that is what divides tyranny and dictatorship from simple monarchy etc. The end of democracy is when the power goes from the people to one person, family or institution. Anyway, this is fairly off topic, but my statement is that even though the hunters association is a democracy it won't hinder Pariston from taking over, since that has happened so many times before in our history.

heron bpv
February 04, 2012, 12:00 PM
***WARNING***
Wall of text ahead! =P


Like I said it's like Togashi's other work, Level E, where bureaucracy can defeat the most evil entity in the galaxy. This isn't about a challenge. This is about Pariston probably having a future where he gets crushed by mindnumbing paperworks, rules, and meetings and as a chairman he absolutely can't get around that. Of course he will still be up to whatever his plans are, but it's just going to be way harder because he'll now have to deal with the evil known as bureaucracy.

Well, just as I said before:


I do agree that assuming this position will put him under heavier restrictions than those of a vice chairman, but so far Pariston has been depicted as someone who enjoy playing under disadvantageous circunstances

But as you brought another point to the table... well, as far as we all know, Netero, the former chairman, could still do as he pleased even under those bureucratic-heavy circunstances. Though during the chimera ants incident it's shown that he has been pushed by some people to do the job (and it's also later stated during the current arc that this is suspected to be Pariston's doing), he was still able to do the job his way (even putting his "hands" in a rose bomb), and during the hunter exam arc he was also shown to go beyond the rules to make things right (in his own terms). So the possibility of Pariston being held down by the burocracy of the Hunter's Association is still open to debate.


To outline how the events should've played out from each's view...

Gin, like he stated, predicted a stalemate.

Pariston, like he stated, predicted Gin would win (he didn't know Gin would get bored so quickly).

However Chidol's plan to lock everyone up made the stalemate outcome impossible (people will want to go home eventually and actually vote for someone).

Pariston presumably had a plan to get the Hunter exam rules abolished even against Gin, since it's stated his focus was not actually winning the fight.

Neither Gin nor Pariston foresaw Leorio being one of the final candidate. Gin thought it'd be between Pariston and Chidol, and Pariston obviously wasn't prepared for Chidol making a push for Leorio as the final candidate.

The vote distribution that Chidol figured out should be obvious to Pariston, so he knows at that point Leorio could get the majority in the round of 4. If his goal was to lose, he can lose right there.

However, as he stated in his speech, he only brought up his plan to abolish the Exam rules when there are no members of the Zodiac left, because he doesn't want to look like he's attempting to circumvent the Zodiacs. At this point, there are still Zodiac amongst the candidates, so if Pariston lost there, he'd just flat out lose. So he has to make his speech to split some votes to prevent Leorio from winning outright.

However, at that time he also felt the energy, and according to him he already knew that means Gon was getting healed.

This means there isn't enough time for him to lose the election as he planned, because where Gon is at is extremely close. This is the part he refers to "I'm not exactly God". He planned to lose the election, but he ran out of time because he had to stall the round of 4 (Zodiacss still candidates), and there isn't enough time to pass his emergency motion and then lose the election.

So he ended up having to become the chairman which was never his intention.

As for the rest of your post, I do agree with most of it (specially the first parts). The disagreement point is still the same as before, though. =]

Phantron
February 04, 2012, 04:34 PM
Netero is closer to a dictator than Pariston is. He is obviously the most powerful man (in terms of fighting prowess) in the world, and since he has no dangerous ambition so there's really no reason why anyone would want to oppose him within the association. You can't beat him and you know he's not actually trying to do anything dangerous, so why fight against a guy whose physical ability has no rivals since 50 years ago?

The pro-Netero faction still controls most of the important roles in the Association. Whereas Netero can probably just say he doesn't care what others have to say, and people will put up with that since everyone knows that's the kind of person he is, Pariston always attempted to appear humble and receptive to suggestions, so he can't pull something similar here.

Pariston would much rather prefer to lose the election and hide behind the scenes to continue his plan, compared to being in front of the spotlight. The story may say Netero, Gin, and Pariston are all similar, but there's a key difference between Pariston and the other two. While Netero and Gin have no problem with openly acting like a jerk and just laugh off people's complaints, Pariston appears to be very concerned with his image. Or, as Gin puts it, Pariston has patience while he does not. If you're some random Hunter and you want to talk to Netero, I doubt Netero will care what you have to say. Gin you'll probably just meet his panda. But Pariston? He's always going to say, "Yes sir, that is a great idea. I'll think about it." That's just the kind of guy he is. We can see thus far that Pariston always takes the time to talk to just about anyone with an idea, and as chairman he'd have to talk to way more people. Hence, bureaucracy is going to slow him down, if not defeat him, just because he is very concerned with his image and there's no shortage of guys who would want an audience with him.

It doesn't mean he won't try anything evil, but he will definitely have a lot less time to work on his plans. If someone like Gin wanted to use the organization for evil, he can easily just brush off all the other guys and went his way. But Pariston cannot do that, at least not by the kind of character he's depicted. Even if nobody actually believes him, he's inclined to always put up a pretty face and say he's completely open to all suggestions. But that means he can't possibly have a lot of time as the chairman for his real goals.

heron bpv
February 04, 2012, 04:56 PM
For someone as manipulative as him, have people come to talk to him and ask things is actually a best case scenario. It just means he will have that much more pawns to do his bindings and advance his plans, as long as he manages to manipulate the circunstances to his favor. Which seens to be his specialty, as the manga showed so far. And to make matters worst, each time he succefully does this, his image of a caring and passionate chairman will increase, to the demise of those people who are trying to actually confront him and bring his "evil" down.
And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P
On the contrary, as the manga shows during the hunter exam and quimera ants arc, as well as during his funeral, he was greatly respected by quite the majority of the hunters.

joshua019
February 04, 2012, 05:25 PM
For someone as manipulative as him, have people come to talk to him and ask things is actually a best case scenario. It just means he will have that much more pawns to do his bindings and advance his plans, as long as he manages to manipulate the circunstances to his favor. Which seens to be his specialty, as the manga showed so far. And to make matters worst, each time he succefully does this, his image of a caring and passionate chairman will increase, to the demise of those people who are trying to actually confront him and bring his "evil" down.
And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P
On the contrary, as the manga shows during the hunter exam and quimera ants arc, as well as during his funeral, he was greatly respected by quite the majority of the hunters.

If you read the rules of the hunter association it is not netero being a dictator the rules are bended toward dictatorship of the organisation! we cant really compare a country as there is less 1000 members, the HA is more like a company and the president is a the CEO and the 12 zodiac are the board members.

Uriel
February 04, 2012, 06:17 PM
@Goral: Don't know if the results are out for every user. :O Look on that forum, if they already announce the winners. I sure know, but I can't say if it's not out for everybody. :mono

It depends. I most certainly can imagine it, from what seems like a god-like entity to me.
Actually I'm on Phantron on this. There can't be a free healing. Mostly because Togashi doesn't make abilities /IN ALL HIS WORKS/ that doesn't have a payback even if it's subtle. I'm sure Killua has shown the little He could to his family to avoid them figuring that out. Tsubone's peeping monocle is probably the reason Killua has left without talking to Gon, as well.

Actually those 3 achieved their power through deliquescent democracies. And democracy is really a nice term for the roman republic and the directoire, oligarchy is more close to the truth
Demagogy is the term you're looking for.

Healing Gon must have costed something!! it seems to be impossible to be able to completely heal someone who has in the borderline of death. She said that every time she used 'nanika' she goes to 'sleep' may be this time she would probably sleep for quite a while!
Enough to make Gon waiting for Killua and searching for him a whole entire arc :cheez

We can see thus far that Pariston always takes the time to talk to just about anyone with an idea, and as chairman he'd have to talk to way more people. Hence, bureaucracy is going to slow him down, if not defeat him, just because he is very concerned with his image and there's no shortage of guys who would want an audience with him.
I disagree. We're talking about the man who did all the work, who is brilliant (Let me just say that) and tricked most people around them without NO proof or evidence. I'm sure...Wait, no. I KNOW He wouldn't have ANY issue with bureaucracy because He's the essence of it.
The factor that I think will eventually defeat him is something you mention: His lack of "jerking" to other people. The act of avoiding in which He's an expert will be what will lead to his defeat. Not now, but eventually.

I do agree that Netero was a dictator lol

@heron: Seems that you grasped this fast :P

heron bpv
February 04, 2012, 07:01 PM
Well, I believe you can argue that Netero ruled with an iron fist (and a apparently tendency to favor the stronger and those with great potential), but to call him a dictator is a bit too harsh. ^^'

Teubier
February 04, 2012, 07:51 PM
Given the way HXH universe works, it's hard to imagine there's an ability that lets you heal anybody for nothing.It depends. I most certainly can imagine it, from what seems like a god-like entity to me.Actually I'm on Phantron on this. There can't be a free healing. Mostly because Togashi doesn't make abilities /IN ALL HIS WORKS/ that doesn't have a payback even if it's subtle.
Given what I already wrote about what I believe that Nanika could be within chapter 332's discussion topic, for Nanika to be something that would revolve around the core of the very idea of nen itself is something that I want to believe in. And for Killua to be the first to encounter a ‘virgin’ Nanika (devoid of any limitation/rules), for him to create them in order to protect his little brother and prevent the manipulative side of his family from misusing it is also something I want to believe in... looks like a cry for a cool story bro -_-;
Anyway, I don’t get your point, is Togashi bound to do the same thing ? Also, what if I asked you to prove to me that what you state is indeed true ? Are you ready and willing to look at each and every one of his works and tell me in detail how every character’s abilities have a (subtle) payback to it ? Are you ? :teehee

Uriel
February 04, 2012, 08:13 PM
Everybody knows I'm the most lazy mod around. So I wont. BUT if you believe that Nanika abilities comes from Nen itself then you sure know it has a backside.

Phantron
February 04, 2012, 09:15 PM
For someone as manipulative as him, have people come to talk to him and ask things is actually a best case scenario. It just means he will have that much more pawns to do his bindings and advance his plans, as long as he manages to manipulate the circunstances to his favor. Which seens to be his specialty, as the manga showed so far. And to make matters worst, each time he succefully does this, his image of a caring and passionate chairman will increase, to the demise of those people who are trying to actually confront him and bring his "evil" down.
And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P
On the contrary, as the manga shows during the hunter exam and quimera ants arc, as well as during his funeral, he was greatly respected by quite the majority of the hunters.

Let's say the temp Hunters are on strike and demand a 50% increase in wage and better benefits.

If it's Netero or Gin as chairman he'd probably just brush them off, if he'd even bother with such a thing like that.

But Pariston, who is clearly a great negotiator, probably would be expected to work his magic to those guys.

Now of course that also represents an opportunity, but I think his plans go beyond just getting a few more votes at this point. He's obviously planning for something big but due to his area of expertise (politics) and his image, he'd have a hard time saying 'no' even to rather mundane things.

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Some more thoughts on Pariston...

It's obvious bureaucracy was what give him his power in the first place (he stood up for all the weak guys to have the power he has today), but at some point he's going to move to bigger things than just winning support of some random no name Hunters. Basically right now he's like someone who just won a lottery and all his friends come out from nowhere expecting favors. His power base is obviously quite large and all these guys would be planning to cash in on Pariston's victory. Yet the weak guys who are his power base obviously don't further his plans at this point (the fact he got the cocoons suggest he's looking for beings with more power now).

Given his past history, he can't just ignore those guys and would have to expand considerable energy just to reassure all his existing followers that's he's still supporting them. This is a pretty significant disadvantage consider the Hunters normally are some kind of oligarchy, i.e. it's expected people at the top (Zodiacs, Netero, etc) get to have everything their way, but this doesn't apply to Pariston because of how he got up there.

Uriel
February 04, 2012, 09:44 PM
You just forgot the 18 missing hunters, right Phan?

Wowzers
February 04, 2012, 10:02 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what Pariston wants to do with 5000 ants. From the clues in the last few chapters I'm currently mulling over 2 possibilities:

1) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants can participate to become Hunters. The Ants in this case would be considered on a par with Humans.

2) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants are one of the stages. New hunters have to overcome an Ant as part of the exam. The Ants in this case would simply be testing materials.

The two examples above would result in very different and diverging storylines. Also, if Pariston doesn't get his way, would he release 5000 Ants into the general population, or would he use them against the Hunter Organization itself? I think we are likely going to find out just how evil Pariston can be in future chapters.

Uriel
February 04, 2012, 10:07 PM
Why Pariston would need to modify the exam? All those cocoons are already ideal for hunting. And Mind you, there is already monster like creatures living with humans already so that wouldn't be an issue.

Wowzers
February 04, 2012, 10:19 PM
There are rules governing the hunter exam. I'm not sure what he wants to modify, but at present, I've only seen humans participating, even though there are some non-human intelligent beings on this world.

In the first case, a rule change might be needed to allow non-human participants in the exam.
In the second case, a rule might be needed to allow the use of the Ants as a benchmark for future hunters abilities.

Pariston was the one bringing up the Hunter Exam though, not me. True, he brushed it off when it was no longer needed, since Gon showed up but I think he still has some plans for it.

HelixEpsilon
February 05, 2012, 12:35 AM
The end of democracy is when the power goes from the people to one person, family or institution. Anyway, this is fairly off topic, but my statement is that even though the hunters association is a democracy it won't hinder Pariston from taking over, since that has happened so many times before in our history.

Actually, Togashi is clearly leading his readers to that sort of debate!

As you said, Pariston is a charismatic politician, who thinks of the system as a tool for his ambition. It seems he already controls large parts of the hunter bureaucracy thru simple means of influence.

However the hunter association was tailored for Netero. He was a personnality 'above the parties', because he was too strong; the same way some contries organized themselves around heroes with undisputed legitimacy after a national crisis (De Gaulle, Putin, Mao Zedong, etc.)

The succession to that sort of people is problematic. Netero probably frustrated a lot of people during his 'reign', but their interests are not compatible. Pariston can't hope to replace him, therefore he will need to share the power, and also adapt a few aspects of the organization to reach his goal.

The possibilities are limitless here, but my personnal favourite would be that he is an agent of the world's States, and he ultimately wants to put an end to the Hunter Association (ie end its independance, make it a tool for the States and favour chaos).

What would remain would be an entity very favourable to temp hunters, and Pariston backed by the States leading it, apparently obedient but in reality with more freedom. I could imagine that the ants crisis would decide country leaders of the opportunity to control a tool like the HA ^^

I have no proof at all, just think it would fit the character :teehee


It's actually not a matter of being evil

I was just reacting to the term 'worst' dictators, Seemed to me History probably produced a thousand guys democratically elected and with a worse record than Caesar :D



And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P

Hehe that's true! Nice illustration of a typical cult of personality =p


Actually those 3 achieved their power through deliquescent democracies. And democracy is really a nice term for the roman republic and the directoire, oligarchy is more close to the truth

They used circumstances more than actual deliquescence of the system itself. Aristotle showed that any system based on an election is a government by the oligarchy (the only ones who have the means and the knowledge to effectively run the election, and govern). In times of crisis, countless modern examples show that democratic systems are no more than tools in the hands of a few.

For example, a lot of democracies fundamental law/constitution leave open the possibility of extended powers to their president for a limited time, in case of national crisis. That's surely not based on the belief one man can save the day if given the means. Isn't it more beyond that an expression of the confidence that the oligarchy has the means to use the state more efficiently, once a few barriers are removed?

Sorry for the long OT, but again Togashi himself asks for it

Phantron
February 05, 2012, 01:17 AM
You just forgot the 18 missing hunters, right Phan?

That's a different subplot though. I'm just saying in general, as a chairman, Pariston would have to put up with a lot of guys who will be like, "hey Mr. Chairman, I voted for you, how about some favors!" He'd have relatively little to gain from those guys, but he'd definitely have to spend a lot of time to deal with those guys.

Again it's not that he'll stop his evil ways, but that his position will cause him to lose a lot of time & energy he otherwise could've devoted to his evil ways.

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Why Pariston would need to modify the exam? All those cocoons are already ideal for hunting. And Mind you, there is already monster like creatures living with humans already so that wouldn't be an issue.

I think he wants the cocoon guys to become Hunters, not hunted.

It can be inferred that his powerbase probably doesn't specialize in overwhelming physical ability. I'm sure Pariston would like to add a bunch of loyal, super powerful (physically speaking) under his command. He may be shrewd, but I'm sure he knows at some point he needs a credible force on his side too. You can't just sweet talk and scheme your way out of everything. At some point, you'll need people under your command who can fight too.

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I'm still trying to figure out what Pariston wants to do with 5000 ants. From the clues in the last few chapters I'm currently mulling over 2 possibilities:

1) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants can participate to become Hunters. The Ants in this case would be considered on a par with Humans.

2) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants are one of the stages. New hunters have to overcome an Ant as part of the exam. The Ants in this case would simply be testing materials.

The two examples above would result in very different and diverging storylines. Also, if Pariston doesn't get his way, would he release 5000 Ants into the general population, or would he use them against the Hunter Organization itself? I think we are likely going to find out just how evil Pariston can be in future chapters.

Fighting those 5000 soldiers would be borderline suicide even for veteran Hunters, let alone newbies taking the exam. Presumably these soldiers are supposed to be the 'new and improved' version of Ants. While we won't expect them to be as strong as Royals, they should be at least as strong as the regular Ant soldiers, if not close to the Commander level. To put things in perspective, even the Spiders took damage 1 on 1 against the grunts, and remember there are 5000 of those guys so we're not looking at a fair 1 on 1 fight. In particular, if the soldiers have the Ants' common 'continue fighting while dead' trait, they'd prove to be very formidable even to killing machines like Hisoka or Ilumi, because now killing your opponent no longer stops their attack. Look at Hisoka's fight, if the guy can make one more attack after taking a deathblow from Hisoka, he might have gone down too. Now normal humans don't continue fighting after having their throat slit, but we know Ants can basically continue fighting having their head chopped off.

baboysai
February 05, 2012, 04:19 AM
just read the chapter, and this page (too lazy to scroll back). So... Nobody excited about Ging's meeting with Gon? :oh

Uriel
February 05, 2012, 09:42 AM
When I said Hunting I meant like the profession. They're ideal to be Hunters.

That's a different subplot though.
It's the way He deals with someone annoying, apparently. So it's not a different subplot which is unrelated with how He deals with weaklings without relevance.

just read the chapter, and this page (too lazy to scroll back). So... Nobody excited about Ging's meeting with Gon? :oh
To be honest...nope :P

baboysai
February 05, 2012, 10:44 AM
To be honest...nope :P

huh. I do have a feeling that it's going to be anticlimactic as usual. The mangaka's always been like that about Ging and Gon. So... i guess I don't have high hopes for it either. :/

Uriel
February 05, 2012, 11:03 AM
It's not only that. Ging is a jerk and Gon is kinda simple. As characters I assume their meeting wont be as deep and emotional as I like to read re-encounters.

heron bpv
February 05, 2012, 11:30 AM
Though I bet it'll be hilarious =P

Teubier
February 05, 2012, 11:55 AM
I bet that there will be some severe family bonding fistfight. I guess that's how it would probably happen between a jerk father and a kinda simple son. Hopefully there will be a random hit to Pariston at the same time, to see him lose his composure. :p

Host Samurai
February 05, 2012, 01:13 PM
It's not only that. Ging is a jerk and Gon is kinda simple. As characters I assume their meeting wont be as deep and emotional as I like to read re-encounters.

I agree with you. Now that they're about to reunite, I'm looking forward to Ging's reaction due to him being not comfortable in front of a crowd. :p

hunted
February 05, 2012, 02:38 PM
may be gon ignore his father and do as what he
said to kaito at the begining of the ant arc and continue hunting him...
or gon run towards him and call father then gin run also and say son with
both spreading their arms then gon say jan ken pon ...:D

Ruhina
February 05, 2012, 03:59 PM
I'm guessing that the whole next chapter will consist of Gon slowly walking towards Gin.

Then punch him in the face! HAHAHA!

HelixEpsilon
February 05, 2012, 06:54 PM
I see a contest between Gon and Jing in the next arc.

chikkychappy
February 05, 2012, 07:02 PM
just read the chapter, and this page (too lazy to scroll back). So... Nobody excited about Ging's meeting with Gon? :oh

i am. i really am. it's the scene that stood-out most to me this chapter. we've been waiting for this since the start of the manga so i'm really interested in where togashi will take this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf

HelixEpsilon
February 05, 2012, 07:23 PM
I'm guessing that the whole next chapter will consist of Gon slowly walking towards Gin.

Then punch him in the face! HAHAHA!

Punching yes, but please don't walk too slowly! (i want to see more of the other plots!)

Zatono
February 05, 2012, 07:44 PM
I really wanna see the Ants already. I could care less about the election, and I'm pretty sure Gon's meeting with his dad is going to be brief. There could even be a decent chance that the Ryodan, Hisoka, and the Zoldyck family end up getting some screen time fighting this batch of ants.

mrsticky005
February 05, 2012, 08:41 PM
I'm guessing that the whole next chapter will consist of Gon slowly walking towards Gin.

Then punch him in the face! HAHAHA!

I seriously doubt this would happen. Gon is too simple minded. I doubt he has really any
anger towards his father Ging. At the same time I don't think Gon has much love for him
either. Gon simply admires Ging and has made finding him his goal and now he succeeded.

So I see Gon being nothing short of ecstatic.

However I think Ging will disappoint him and it will be a disillusioning experience for Gon.

Sea Hunter
February 05, 2012, 10:43 PM
Hopefully the Gon / Ging thingy won't take more than a couple of panels a whole page at most......hopefully
About the 5000 ants I don't see anyway which they can all pass the exam if that was Pariston's goal (which i doubt) , i mean looking at the last 2 stages of the exam we saw it's impossible. And i still stand by what i said when they were firs mentioned, if they don't all get killed the max number of them that'll survive will be 1% meaning 50 at most.

Show us Hisoka already ♠

Federicoxxx
February 06, 2012, 08:30 AM
Hag NO IDEA...what could happen in the next chap..

i guess more of pariston.....and lot more of illumi..

maybe something more related to those Hybrids ants?..

maybe several chaps ahead..of the Bumpy BACK HOME..with Alluka ?

triying 2 be captured... by illumi ?

baboysai
February 06, 2012, 09:51 AM
Ah, I wanna see Killua next chapter :oh I totally forgot he existed, lol. And to think it was all because of him that Gon was able to steal the show.

k-dom
February 06, 2012, 09:55 AM
I wouldn't mind a little flashback of what happened in the room where Gon was. To see what happened to Killua and Nanika and why Killua doesn't want Gon to know who saved him.

Host Samurai
February 06, 2012, 11:38 AM
I wouldn't mind a little flashback of what happened in the room where Gon was. To see what happened to Killua and Nanika and why Killua doesn't want Gon to know who saved him.

I think the reason why Killua doesn't want Gon to know "how" he was saved is simple. It's because he doesn't want Gon to feel burdened, what his selfish actions have caused to others (Alluka/Nanika)...He has already suffered enough mentally, now he needs time to recover. But I too would like to see his first reaction, when he saw Chimera Palm. I wonder what his initial thought was?...

baboysai
February 06, 2012, 11:58 AM
Also, knowing Gon, he'd feel really bad to have had thousands of people who were risked just to get himself healed. He wouldn't be able to forgive himself for that and would do something selfless (like chopping off his own leg or something) just to make it even.

heron bpv
February 06, 2012, 03:25 PM
Am I the only one hoping to not see Killua again until Gon decides to go after and find him? And only then we will get some explanations. I guess it could work like that easily under any future arc =P
And going off-topic a little, it would also be nice to have a mini Kaito-gaiden arc, telling us about his past and showing how he developed his nen powers, but it's only me dreaming x]

Jack Van Burace
February 06, 2012, 05:03 PM
Killua disappearing can't beat Kurapica disappearing. I'm much more curious regarding Kurapica's whereabouts than Killua's, since the latter is likely busy hiding Alluka from the world. Kurapica on the other hand has good chances to bring up some interesting sub-plot that will set things in motion after these last events are over.

JC_AC
February 06, 2012, 06:45 PM
Gon knows that that man is Ging. He turns 180 degrees and walks away. He wants to hunt Ging down like Kaito did on his last test and not find him by chance/coincidence.

Killua lost his eyesight "You can have your friend back, but you willl not see him ever again."

Sea Hunter
February 06, 2012, 08:42 PM
Am I the only one hoping to not see Killua again until Gon decides to go after and find him? And only then we will get some explanations. I guess it could work like that easily under any future arc =P
And going off-topic a little, it would also be nice to have a mini Kaito-gaiden arc, telling us about his past and showing how he developed his nen powers, but it's only me dreaming x]

Who knows maybe we'll get to see some of his past while he progresses in the story as a chimaera.

There's a chance as many mentioned before that Killua lied about Nanika's healing ability having no backlashes, i think it might be different when it comes to healing like you set the price upfront before wishing someone be healed(like Killua sacrificing his friendship with Gon), if no price is set Nanika/Alluka herself pays it by sleeping or so.

elitefox
February 06, 2012, 09:23 PM
Gon knows that that man is Ging. He turns 180 degrees and walks away. He wants to hunt Ging down like Kaito did on his last test and not find him by chance/coincidence.

Killua lost his eyesight "You can have your friend back, but you willl not see him ever again."

Did nanika said that?

HelixEpsilon
February 07, 2012, 04:07 AM
I think the reason why Killua doesn't want Gon to know "how" he was saved is simple. It's because he doesn't want Gon to feel burdened, what his selfish actions have caused to others (Alluka/Nanika)...He has already suffered enough mentally, now he needs time to recover. But I too would like to see his first reaction, when he saw Chimera Palm. I wonder what his initial thought was?...

Also, there is a parallel between Gon trying to save Kaito and fail, but at a huge expense for himself, and Killua trying to save Gon, and succeed, probably at an equally huge sacrifice.

If the backlash endangers tens of thousands of people, no doubt Killua doesn't want Gon to know that

JC_AC
February 07, 2012, 02:52 PM
Did nanika said that?

It didn't but it's what I predict.