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[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Chapter's out!:

http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/15438

[svyatoslav]

Short chapter, but it looks like no amnesia drama for Jinni, THANK YOU author! Cute moment between the Elder and Jinni.

I wonder what Hyuk and 3AD talked about and the helicopter thing was hilarious.

[ChaoticKen]

Some things of note.

For those of you curious about whether Elder Kwon is "the second strongest in Murim" or "the strongest second-in-command", the translation by A-Team is the wrong one. SeRa tells HaIl that Kwon is the only person among the 10 Murim Great Masters who's a second-in-command. In other words, someone who's strong enough to be one of the 10 Murim Great Masters could easily establish a clan / school of his own, but Elder Kwon chooses to stick with the nearly-dead SunWoo clan despite that fact.

- Kwon JeGyu is known as the "최강의 2인자". 2인자 means second-in-command, and 최강 obvious means the strongest. In other words, the strongest second-in-command, I believe?
SeRa believes that the only reason Kwon wants ShiWoon dead is because he thinks that ShiWoon is harmful / unfit for the clan, and that if he were to see ShiWoon differently then he would change his thoughts. Which is exactly what happened.
HaIl, on the other hand, thinks Kwon is just waiting to take the clan over. Which is wrong, but he can't really be blamed for thinking that way, considering how his last conversation with Kwon went.
Hyuk and Gang Sung finish their conversation from before, and the topic turns to the state of the Murim. Hyuk says that the ChunDoMoon is expecting Gang Sung to take a stricter approach as the Head of the Alliance. Gang Sung understands that Hyuk is talking about his SaJe (School Brother), the one who shot the Nine Arts Dragon during the events of the first series. This is because using firearms goes against the basics of MuRim. Hyuk tells Gang Sung that if Gang Sung truly understands that the MuRim is in danger, then he has to show that he can make drastic / bold decisions.
Mask's surname is JeGal (제갈)l. Which is a two letter surname, which is pretty rare in Korea. I've only met one person in real life with a two letter surname, and he was my math teacher in my second year of Middle School, whose surname was NamGoong (남궁). Which also happens to be a name I've seen pop up in martial arts stuff. Mask's name isn't given, simply his surname.
제갈, at least to me, brings up one thing and one thing only. 제갈공명 / 제갈량, in other words Zhuge Liang from the Three Kingdoms.
Hyuk tells Mask that he was right, Gang Sung called him to ask for his help. Mask compares Gang Sung and the Alliance to a sinking ship, and says that despite Gang Sung's request, the Murim will get even more chaotic, and the the strength of people like Hyuk will be required.
JiNi wakes up, sees Kang. Kang gets angry that she didn't contact him... and tells her that he was worried. Doctor arrives, Kang asks him if he can leave. Doctor is surprised, since Kang was anxious and stayed up watching over JiNi the entire night. Kang gets all annoyed and leaves, telling JiNi to take care of herself and that if she goes out and gets hurt like that again he'll really scold her.


The most important part of this chapter?

Elder Kwon is a tsundere.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Some things of note.
Elder Kwon is a tsundere.

Lol, it seems to run in the family :XD

Don't quite see where the Zhuge Liang part fits in though?

[ChaoticKen]

Zhuge Liang was a smart dude. The surname pops up in some Korean manhwa / novels dealing with MuRim that I've read, and people from there are supposed to be smart and wise and whatnot. Granted all of those guys were minor characters but yah the reputation bit stands.

From Wikipedia:
"The surname has often been synonymous with wisdom in Chinese culture, due to the fame of Zhuge Liang."

[svyatoslav]

HaIl, on the other hand, thinks Kwon is just waiting to take the clan over. Which is wrong, but he can't really be blamed for thinking that way, considering how his last conversation with Kwon went.


To be fair to HaIl, it really seemed like the two (saving the clan and taking over the clan) were starting to merge inside Kwon's head before he was snapped back to reality during the flashback when he remembered his real goal and promise to the dying head.

Thank you for the summary btw.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Mm-hmm.

I wonder, though, does this chapter adds any points for or agaisnt the theory that "Hyuk is secretly a member of SUC, perhaps even the leader"-theory?

He does have a rather disapppointed look on his face during the meeting and from what ChaoticKen's saying, he's somewhat critizing of Kangung's way of doing things so far. But it's all a bit too vauge to say anything for sure... :(

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Oh man I wonder if Hyuk and Shioon are going to have a rematch at some point in the future. I hope Hyuk isn't a part of S.U.C. because from what we know he was against people breaking away from Murim in part 1 but who knows what can happen.

[Hiro Hayase]

"My Grandpa can't be this cute" - I can already picture the fanfic. (Oreimo joke)

It does seem like Hyuk is steadily being manipulated a bit, doesn't it? Hyuk's major is that he's too perfect and righteous(?). Those traits can easily lead to trouble and while he's too preoccupied with restoring order in the murim world, Hyuk might overlook things. Hyuk vs Shioon seems more likely now.

Btw I can't wait to see Elder Kwon's when he witnesses Shioon regenerative abilities! Will it be a shocked expression? Surprised face? Stupid face? WTH face? :D

Poor Jinie she looks confused lol. I'm half-expecting Ji-gun to join the Sunwu clan now after what he, Shioon, and Jinie have been though.

[LoS]

LOLZ

want to shout it at the top of my lungs. This chapter only answered one question, which could have taken 1 single page, no 1 single panel.

I'll comment further, since I'm already getting a massive head ache from the Parades tonight. But, sigh... another backseat after finally progressing.

[svyatoslav]

Well, Hyuk has the resources and he is probably one of the people with the capability to master 9AD's techniques or at least copy them to some extent but I just don't see him as someone who would order senseless violence everywhere.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Just read the chapter that Sakicow released.

I'm thinking that there's really implications that Hyuk may be a member of SUC and/or it's head. Kangsungs comment that Hyuk has changed as well as Moustache Guy's words seems to point in that direction, at least.

[svyatoslav]

Just read the chapter that Sakicow released.

I'm thinking that there's really implications that Hyuk may be a member of SUC and/or it's head. Kangsungs comment that Hyuk has changed as well as Moustache Guy's words seems to point in that direction, at least.

After reading the Sakicow version, I'm thinking that the primary head of Heavenly Way might be the one who is up to something and that he is the head of the SUC while Hyuk is being kept in the dark because he wouldn't allow such a tactic though it seems he could be suspecting something.

As for the change that 3AD is talking about, I think the change he sensed was the one caused by Shioon though obviously Kangsung doesn't know that, he just feels something is different about him. Anyway, either the author is trying to make us think Hyuk is the real leader of the SUC in order to trick us or he really is the leader though I'm leaning towards the former currently.

[kidopitz27]

the chapter is out in http://unixmanga.com/onlinereading/The_Breaker_New_Waves/The_Breaker_New_Waves_c060_nas.html

it will be funny when the elder decided to visit Shioon and like Shioon is gone and lost in the hospital looking for Jinie :)

or the elder will visit Shioon and see Shioon meditating

[Monsterguy]

To me it looks like Hyuk was influenced by GMR, and like the guy that fought with elder Kwon is the leader of SUC, who took advantage of Hyuk's situation and with deceptive words started manipulating young Hyuk however he wanted !!!

All this is showing us not to take the words of older people as the only way that are correct. But to "properly learn" from older people mistakes (Shioon from elder Kwon), and to never do the same mistake like people before us (what leads us to destruction instead). -->

-->If you ask me, this is called learning from mistakes, and taking history events as fundamentals for skyscrapers, who are like modern life to todays society !!!

Thnx for the summary again, ChaoticKen. It's really informative (at least for somebody like me, who doesn't have a clue in Korean language) !!!

[kidopitz27]

the guy with Hyuk is just a retainer i think and i think the old man (http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=The%20Breaker/The%20Breaker%20c033/The_Breaker_v5_083.png&server=nas.html) in part 1 when Hyuk is on flashback when fighting shioon is is a grand master of the school and the long hair dude Hyuk was talking to in his flashback is the head (http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=The%20Breaker/The%20Breaker%20c034/The_Breaker_v5_117.png&server=nas.html) and i think the previous head was killed by GMR on the day Unwol kill himself (i think)

[Monsterguy]

the guy with Hyuk is just a retainer i think and i think the old man in part 1 when Hyuk is on flashback when fighting shioon is still the head of the school

Who is the current "head" of the Chundomoon school, anyway ???

I wanted to know this becouse in part 1 it was said that Hyuk is the "next" succesor of Chundomoon, so first I asummed that it is "this guy (http://www.mangareader.net/530-34430-12/the-breaker/chapter-34.html)" (who was called "Great Master" by Hyuk), but now I realized that the "Great Master", that I thought could be the head, might just be an elder to Hyuk !!!

[kidopitz27]

Who is the current "head" of the Chundomoon school, anyway ???

I wanted to know this becouse in part 1 it was said that Hyuk is the "next" succesor of Chundomoon, so I asummed that it is "this guy (http://www.mangareader.net/530-34430-12/the-breaker/chapter-34.html)" (who was called "Great Master" by Hyuk), but now I realized that the guy I thought could be the head, might also be an elder to Hyuk !!!

the old man is the previous head (he retired because he's too tired to meet new people) the new head (today) is this one (http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=The%20Breaker/The%20Breaker%20c034/The_Breaker_v5_117.png&server=nas.html) if my calculations is correct the Grand master died in the hands of Unwol and that's why the Head of Heavenly way School is talking to Kang - sung about getting the BHT on GMR to avenge his masters death i think? there is a flashback on that i don't know which chapter though

[bighawke5]

The new leader of the alliance is strong enough for the part but not right for the job. He may be a good leader on a smaller scale though.

Its funny that the martial arts alliance is going to team up with heavenly way school again...considering their alliance is what destroyed Sunwoo clan to this state originally. Wonder what Shioon will think of that when he hears of it.

Now do people believe or slightly starting to believe that hyuk might be SUC leader? lol I've been preaching that for a while now lol

Anyways I'm sure elder will stumble upon a meditating shioon next if sera's recovered this much, he might even be doing upside down pushups lol...sera and Co will arrive later after elder has left the building..which is probably around the time ji-gun wakes up..

[matzik1212]

:wtf I'm really starting to like Elder Kwon a lot right now . It seems the relationship between him , Jinie and Shioon will change in a good way thing i'm very happy about .
Sera demonstrated again in this chapter that she's knows a lot about the Murim world , including about Elder Kwon . Even Ha-Ill was sure Elder will kill Shioon and not give a damn about Jinie but looks like he's still too naive and doesn't know much about the Sunwoo clan's past. Sera was right on the spot :thumbs
As for Hyuk i don't know what to say :s , i was sure he wasn't aware of things involving the SUC but now my mind's blurry concerning him . I would really hate him if he was involved directly with those lowlifes that are trying to kill Shioon :-_- .

Can't wait to see how will Elder Kwon treat Shioon :D

[kidopitz27]

i think there is a small possibility that Hyuk is also a part of S.U.C like Kang-Sung said Hyuk's expression change maybe GMR influenced him after what happen in PART 1

and also a Big possibility that he's not the way his retainer is talking to him looks to me like Hyuk doesnt know that his retainer is a part of S.U.C

[passenger]

The new leader of the alliance is strong enough for the part but not right for the job. He may be a good leader on a smaller scale though.

Its funny that the martial arts alliance is going to team up with heavenly way school again...considering their alliance is what destroyed Sunwoo clan to this state originally. Wonder what Shioon will think of that when he hears of it.

Now do people believe or slightly starting to believe that hyuk might be SUC leader? lol I've been preaching that for a while now lol

Anyways I'm sure elder will stumble upon a meditating shioon next if sera's recovered this much, he might even be doing upside down pushups lol...sera and Co will arrive later after elder has left the building..which is probably around the time ji-gun wakes up..


story got really complicated yet interesting. though it is not certain yet there is a possibility that heavenly way is pulling the strings and manipulating airheads in the suc.
when you think about it it makes sense. there used to be three major forces in the murim world; heavenly way, sunwoo and MAA. Heavenly way and MAA took down sunwoo with underhanded tactics. If MAA were to collapse as well heavenly way will have the oppurtunity to assume leadership of murim. basically SUC is serving (without having a clue) heavenly way.
just a theory but if you consider the way heavenly way acted when sunwoo became a major force this is something they won't hesitate to do. If it turns out like this heavenly way will become main antagonist of part two and shioon with sunwoo clan will have to crash them. also if sunwoo and shioon had a common enemy it would simplify the matters in sunwoo about shioon's leadership.

edit: and as for hyuk form what i understood from part one he is not the head but assistant head of heavenly way. so he may or may not be involved in this scheme. so his shioon fanboy attitude does not change much of heavnly way's functioning.

last week not so many believed this but this week it is pretty certain that heavenly way school is pulling the strings.
since they were the ones who teamed up with MAA to take down sunwoo it is within their way of operating system to use SUC to be sole leaders of murim.
look carefully at hyuk's pride when moustache guy tells him that chaos will increase and he will be the saviour of murim. yet he is not aware 9AD of the new generation - shioon and the previous one will give them a good lesson when the time comes.

on another note 3AD is wasted, just look at the bags under his eyes. good thing about MAA situation is that sunwoo can act more freely and focus on heavenly way bastards and their lowlife puppets in the suc. as moustache guy said murim needs the strength of young masters but he is not aware that not hyuk but shioon will kick ass. shioon needs to get his ki center back real quick at this point.

I am also happy with jinnie's quick recovery. seeing elder kwon all fluffy in this chapter it is clear that he needs grandchildren like every old wise guy. :P
shioon must impregnate jinnie so that kwon will play with his grandson (ok technically son of his granddaughter yet jinni is like a daughter to him at this point) in the field and die like don carleone while playing with him. (godfather part 1 :D )

[bighawke5]

i think there is a small possibility that Hyuk is also a part of S.U.C like Kang-Sung said Hyuk's expression change maybe GMR influenced him after what happen in PART 1

and also a Big possibility that he's not the way his retainer is talking to him looks to me like Hyuk doesnt know that his retainer is a part of S.U.C

yes, another possibility is the old guy in hyuk's limo is manipulating hyuk...how so is unknown..whats for sure is hyuk doesn't like the way the martial arts alliance was/is. And the old guy in his limo never mentioned about shioon nor kwon to hyuk implying he's hidding things from him...or maybe we'll find out next chapter if he'll tell him then

if he doesn't tell hyuk anything we can be sure he's the one pulling the strings and controlling hyuk by making hyuk believe hyuk should be doing drastic things and such so that when hyuk finds out he was involved with SUC he has leverage over him...

[FrostyMouse]

Kwon as a tsundere just feels wrong. :P

[svyatoslav]

yes, another possibility is the old guy in hyuk's limo is manipulating hyuk...how so is unknown..whats for sure is hyuk doesn't like the way the martial arts alliance was/is. And the old guy in his limo never mentioned about shioon nor kwon to hyuk implying he's hidding things from him...or maybe we'll find out next chapter if he'll tell him then

if he doesn't tell hyuk anything we can be sure he's the one pulling the strings and controlling hyuk by making hyuk believe hyuk should be doing drastic things and such so that when hyuk finds out he was involved with SUC he has leverage over him...
I'm starting to believe that it is not the mask dude who is pulling the strings and manipulating Hyuk but that the head of the Heavenly Way (to whom Mask answers to) is the real mastermind behind the SUC and Hyuk is just being kept in the dark because he wouldn't accept such underhanded tactics.

[kidopitz27]

these are my theories why S.U.C exists

1. S.U.C wants GMR to come out in Korea why? because they know that Shioon didn't learn the BHT

2. Someone in Heavenly Way School is part of S.U.C (we already know that part) but they want the Murim world to be shaken and thus chaos among murim-in will happen and alot of fighting will happen and they will use it to help MMA because they are like "united"

3. S.U.C is maybe like an association with a lot unknown school that wants to control the murim world and the normal world

4. S.U.C already exist when the previous head of Sunwoo was killed and that was their first mission to weaken 1 of the most powerful clan in murim

[bighawke5]

I'm starting to believe that it is not the mask dude who is pulling the strings and manipulating Hyuk but that the head of the Heavenly Way (to whom Mask answers to) is the real mastermind behind the SUC and Hyuk is just being kept in the dark because he wouldn't accept such underhanded tactics.

Yes you may be right there. He was mentioned this chapter too. It would make for a dramatic event when Hyuk finds out. I can see him team up with shioon in the future so him being the leader of SUC doesn't suit him too well :)

[Hiro Hayase]

these are my theories why S.U.C exists

1. S.U.C wants GMR to come out in Korea why? because they know that Shioon didn't learn the BHT

2. Someone in Heavenly Way School is part of S.U.C (we already know that part) but they want the Murim world to be shaken and thus chaos among murim-in will happen and alot of fighting will happen and they will use it to help MMA because they are like "united"

3. S.U.C is maybe like an association with a lot unknown school that wants to control the murim world and the normal world

4. S.U.C already exist when the previous head of Sunwoo was killed and that was their first mission to weaken 1 of the most powerful clan in murim

I want either 2 or 4 to happen, especially 4 seems very likely. Since the Elder Kwon's old friend died at the hands of someone from Hyuk's clan. The Heavenly Way clan seems very prideful and ambitious about their status in the murim world. They do not wnat to give up their advantages to a rising power like the Sunwu clan, thus the grudge developed.

I guess we have to wait until Elder Kwon confesses these issues to Shioon or if Sera tells our zombie protagonist (Shioon).



P.S. I'm fairly certain that the person responsible for Hyuk's change was Shioon. Hyuk finding out that Shioon's ki-center is destroyed and losing his newfound rival.

[murtas]

This chapter felt shorter on many ends, a dissapoiintment as progress goes, i hope for a much interesting chapter next week.

[yellowblue]

Sera demonstrated again in this chapter that she's knows a lot about the Murim world , including about Elder Kwon . Even Ha-Ill was sure Elder will kill Shioon and not give a damn about Jinie but looks like he's still too naive and doesn't know much about the Sunwoo clan's past. Sera was right on the spot :thumbs

Of course Sera is a lady, she probably got most of her intel from gossips :)
Can't wait to see what happens to Shioon now. Will she go back to Sera's master or stay with the Sunwoo clan?

[NAM61]

nice chapter looks like the old man really cares for jinnie. shwoon will probably be healed by next chapter and maybe he will go meet the doc to finally fully fix his ki center. and then he may train with the old man to get faster the speed the old man showed was amazing.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I don't understand why people are making a fuss about the story not progressing much, this is what happens. After a big fight or big plot development there needs to be a little down time, yes the chapter didn't do much but it is necessary for things to move forward. Wait a few chapters and things will start to pick up again. Overall not a bad transition chapter, Kwon doesn't seem like such an asshole now. I'm interested if we will be seeing Ha-Ill more now that Shioon pretty much saved Jini until S.U.C. backup arrived.

I am wondering if Hyuk knows about his teacher being part of the S.U.C., I am going to bet he doesn't and that some of the older Murim people want to start a movement separate from the Murim. Seems like even people within the Murim want chaos to rule.

[kidopitz27]

if you really understand what Sera said to Ha-ill (the part that Elder Kwon can start his own clan) Elder Kwon has the right to do that (getting rid of Shioon) because in his mind Shioon is a frail looking kid(even Elder Jang said that he's weak) but they only seeing what is outside of Shioon that is their mistake(again Elder Jang accepted him as a head) i think in the next few chapter Elder Kwon will bow his head on Shioon and he will say "sorry" for what he did (getting him killed) but Shioon didn't know that part and he will just say "Thank You for saving us"

[matzik1212]

I think the only reason SUC was created was so that it could smash the current Martial Arts Alliance and completely overwrite the rules of the Murim world. That why Chundoomoon has allied with SUC , actually if i think better i might say they are one of the many clans that were the founders of this organization.
Also this organization has deep connection with BFD . I think this is a plan that was developed some time ago , to be more specific from before GMR attacking and destroying the former Martial Arts Alliance. This was all planed by that old guy who GMR calls Master. I think that everything went the way he planned.

So now i think the Sunwoo clan will be the clan that will oppose this organization and together with Shioon they will try destroy their plans , plans that most probably might involve making the Murim world known to the real world and thus murimins taking control of the world.
Well or at least that's what i think :smile-big

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I think the only reason SUC was created was so that it could smash the current Martial Arts Alliance and completely overwrite the rules of the Murim world. That why Chundoomoon has allied with SUC , actually if i think better i might say they are one of the many clans that were the founders of this organization.

Hmm, I wonder if the Chundomoon has really allied with SUC though... Or are just using them. After all, could very well be that they plan to use the SUC to make the Alliance truly disintegrate, then stab them in the back once the Alliance has fallen apart, in essence stepping in as the "saviours" of th eMurim, whiv h they could then rule as they like in the place of the old alliance...

One can also wonder why the Chundomoon, described in part 1 as a "very strong, but reclusive school" would do this, assuming they have really allied with the SUC and it's not just a matter of a few traitors/renegades. I'd guess it's because of th eAlliance: In part 1, the Chief of the alliance was revealed to be using the alliance for his own selfish desires, not the good of the Murim - and he also revealed how rotten to the core the Alliance could be. In part 2, things haven't beome much better. Ji-Gun describes in chapter 42 the Alliance as being "in a vegetative state". Then there's Hyuk's words to Kangsung this chapter... Which makes me think that Kangsung has given additional cause for dfiscontent. We must recall how Kangsung was back in part one: He was strong. He was honorable. But he also never showed much independence. In short, he was the perfect retainer, but he didn't appear to have any skills as a leader. And that, I think, is what might be the problem here: He doesn't have what it takes to lead the Alliance though a crisis like this (he'd probably have been more fitting as a peace time leader, though). So what the Chundomoon may be aiming to do here is to replace an organization they see as rotten and/or incompetent with a better one. Starting over with a clean slate may seem like a better idea to them, considering the bad reputation the Alliance has got these days...

[GOOMOONRYONG]

One day Shioon is going to be the leader of the alliance :D

[nanoclarkology]

I have been quiet on this chapter for awhile. I don't think that Hyuk is a part of SUC. I do however believe there might be a greater Chundomoon application to this SUC issue. I believe that Hyuk will join ( somewhere in the future) Shioon in the reorganization of the Murim world. Where they can live among normal people but to where they police themselves and are not corrupt.

I really really really want his ki to be replaced because let's face it yes he beat a "master " in the sunglasses dude. He would not be able to touch Hyuk's retainer. For that matter is the retainer the #3 guy or #2? I don't think he is #1 nothing has changed my mind on that. But if Shioon is going to be #1 in all of Murim world he has to be able to beat Kwon and GMR. He can't progress like that without that ki center.

[esdawg]

nice chapter looks like the old man really cares for jinnie. shwoon will probably be healed by next chapter and maybe he will go meet the doc to finally fully fix his ki center. and then he may train with the old man to get faster the speed the old man showed was amazing.

This probably has been raised before but I definitely like how the writers portrayed Kwon. He's this old hard ass that came across as a self centered power monger. But as we've seen the writers did a great job revealing how he cares a lot about the clan, what he's built up and those close to him. And they showed how that's affected his seemingly cold hearted decisions and attitude.

[4ghost]

It just occurred to me that Jigun could end up benefiting greatly from this ordeal. Just before the whole SUC incident we had learned that he had suffered greatly from the forced defection from his school, and that he was enduring some unknown injury. With doctors that the money of the Sunwoo clan can buy it wouldn't surprise me if they discover his ailment and if possible provide the remedy for it.

I'm looking forward to seeing them all (Jinnie, Jigun, and Shioon) back on their feet and how they react to the sudden shift in the reality that was their world just before they lost consciousness. Jinnie already got a slight taste of that change in just her finding out how much her grandfather cares for her. Jigun's will be in learning just who Shioon is, by that I mean the head of the Sunwoo clan, especially considering he was desperately trying to get the help of a "big shot" like Sera and the Milyang clan. For Shioon there are any number of huge changes ahead of him that could be presented. For 1 their is his mother, another is the fact that he will have officially taken the position as head of the clan, and of course him potentially gaining yet another elite master for him to learn from.

[Franckie]

I don't understand why people are making a fuss about the story not progressing much, this is what happens. After a big fight or big plot development there needs to be a little down time, yes the chapter didn't do much but it is necessary for things to move forward. Wait a few chapters and things will start to pick up again. Overall not a bad transition chapter, Kwon doesn't seem like such an asshole now. I'm interested if we will be seeing Ha-Ill more now that Shioon pretty much saved Jini until S.U.C. backup arrived.

I am wondering if Hyuk knows about his teacher being part of the S.U.C., I am going to bet he doesn't and that some of the older Murim people want to start a movement separate from the Murim. Seems like even people within the Murim want chaos to rule.

The actual truth is that the plot has progressed quite a bit but too many people are incapable of looking at the bigger picture. We're still in the early stage for Part II; at best we're probably only 1/3 of the way through the story yet. Pay them no mind, however. People across the Internet have been screaming "Ruined forever!" since chapter one of New Waves.

The big relevation this past chapter had is that Chundomoon is involved with the SUC. SUC is just a warm-up for Shioon and friends though. The real threat is an attack from Chundamoon + Martial Arts Alliance.

Its a repeat of the history we learned back in Part I regarding the Sunwoo Clan. After Sosul was born the clan was attacked by Chundomoon + Martial Arts Alliance and subjugated. The Sunwoo Clan has yet to recover from that attack and the political balance is still delicate since Shioon has been recognized as clanhead only by one Elder (he still has 3 more to win over). Current circumstances will lead to a similar incident but somehow the situation will look out for the better. It'll also give Shioon a real jottle to take his job seriously and lead the Murim-reform movement that was spoken of in Part I.

One of the many interesting aspects of the story is the trend with history appearing to repeat itself with Shioon, Goomoonryong, and Unwol. It'll be real interesting if and when we get to Part III where the final obstacle to overcoming this paradox is Goomoonryong himself.

[bighawke5]

The actual truth is that the plot has progressed quite a bit but too many people are incapable of looking at the bigger picture. We're still in the early stage for Part II; at best we're probably only 1/3 of the way through the story yet. Pay them no mind, however. People across the Internet have been screaming "Ruined forever!" since chapter one of New Waves.

The big relevation this past chapter had is that Chundomoon is involved with the SUC. SUC is just a warm-up for Shioon and friends though. The real threat is an attack from Chundamoon + Martial Arts Alliance.

Its a repeat of the history we learned back in Part I regarding the Sunwoo Clan. After Sosul was born the clan was attacked by Chundomoon + Martial Arts Alliance and subjugated. The Sunwoo Clan has yet to recover from that attack and the political balance is still delicate since Shioon has been recognized as clanhead only by one Elder (he still has 3 more to win over). Current circumstances will lead to a similar incident but somehow the situation will look out for the better. It'll also give Shioon a real jottle to take his job seriously and lead the Murim-reform movement that was spoken of in Part I.

One of the many interesting aspects of the story is the trend with history appearing to repeat itself with Shioon, Goomoonryong, and Unwol. It'll be real interesting if and when we get to Part III where the final obstacle to overcoming this paradox is Goomoonryong himself.

unless you know something i dont, the breaker part 1 ended at chapter 72, if this time he plans on ending it around the same then this is more than 1/3 of the way through my friend.