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worm34
January 18, 2007, 10:06 PM
Well here it is, the pro wrestling thread.

Talk anything wrestling here. To WWE to TNA to ROH or an independent promotion in your area. To any wrestler in the world. Talk about it.

Have any questions, you can ask me. I may not know everything, but I think I know enough.

kadodo
January 19, 2007, 12:21 PM
I'm not too much of a wrestling fan but I thought I should ask you, who's favortite wrestler ever?

Ichimaru Gin n Tonic
January 19, 2007, 12:36 PM
Well, a very weird/funny news about pro wrestling. My country banned Pro Wrestling broadcast on TV. There was a channel airing it and the show was quite popular with the kids and teenagers. Unfortunately, several kids somehow tried to do the moves on their friends, resulting several cases of broken arms and legs.
Parents all over the country went into a frenzy and asked the broadcasting committee to stop pro wrestling on TV. They comply and no more WWE, ECW, etc. They even ban the dvd and video games.
What i dont get is, how come the show got the blame. What about the parents' duty to supervise what their children watch on tv. And how on earth did they allow their children to get their hand on wrestling dvds and games if they dont want their children copying what they saw.
I guess those kids didnt pay attention to the "Dont Try This At Home" warning. :D

worm34
January 19, 2007, 12:44 PM
I'm not too much of a wrestling fan but I thought I should ask you, who's favortite wrestler ever?


My favorite wrestler ever has to got to be the guy in my sig Shawn Michaels. He was the reason I became interested in wrestling, I remember the first match I saw of him was at Wrestlemania 10 in a Ladder Match. The match recieved a 5 star which is rare. Then I ended up watching another wrestlemania where he faced Bret Hart. It was also a 5 star and it was pretty emotional when he won. Then he proved to me why he is still on the greatest for his old age when he wrestled a guy named Kurt Angle and it's been the most entertaining match in the WWE since 2004.

Though The Rock was entertaining, Shawn Michaels is my favorite, but the best wrestler ever has got to be Ric Flair.



Well, a very weird/funny news about pro wrestling. My country banned Pro Wrestling broadcast on TV. There was a channel airing it and the show was quite popular with the kids and teenagers. Unfortunately, several kids somehow tried to do the moves on their friends, resulting several cases of broken arms and legs.
Parents all over the country went into a frenzy and asked the broadcasting committee to stop pro wrestling on TV. They comply and no more WWE, ECW, etc. They even ban the dvd and video games.
What i dont get is, how come the show got the blame. What about the parents' duty to supervise what their children watch on tv. And how on earth did they allow their children to get their hand on wrestling dvds and games if they dont want their children copying what they saw.
I guess those kids didnt pay attention to the "Dont Try This At Home" warning. :D


I actually use to backyard wrestle a couple of times, but then I realized it wasn't worth the risk of me breaking my neck or getting hurt so I stopped.

kadodo
January 19, 2007, 12:56 PM
Well, a very weird/funny news about pro wrestling. My country banned Pro Wrestling broadcast on TV. There was a channel airing it and the show was quite popular with the kids and teenagers. Unfortunately, several kids somehow tried to do the moves on their friends, resulting several cases of broken arms and legs.
Parents all over the country went into a frenzy and asked the broadcasting committee to stop pro wrestling on TV. They comply and no more WWE, ECW, etc. They even ban the dvd and video games.
What i dont get is, how come the show got the blame. What about the parents' duty to supervise what their children watch on tv. And how on earth did they allow their children to get their hand on wrestling dvds and games if they dont want their children copying what they saw.
I guess those kids didnt pay attention to the "Dont Try This At Home" warning. :D

I agree the parents should somehow supervise their children but you know kids will somehow find a way to get what they want.

Azurel
January 19, 2007, 11:12 PM
Is it just me or hasn't Hulk Hogan been on WWE way too long. I still remember him back when I was very young.. playing him in SEGA and he is STILL in WWE till now.. although he wasn't wrestling consistently..

And my favourite childhood wrestler was The Undertaker.. I guess The Rock came later on, and he was really the people's man but I'm still a loyal fan of The Undertaker :XD though I haven't watch WWE in years... It sure bring back memories talking about wrestling..

worm34
January 20, 2007, 02:26 PM
I remember I gave up on wrestling a couple of years ago because I could take the lame storylines of the WWE. That is until my friend showed me ring of honor, basically just pure wrestling and I love it. Currently I'm watching a DVD I ordered called ROH Weekend of Champions and it's so awesome... If you guys want to check it out, they have some matches at this site http://rohvideos.com/

Gold Knight
January 28, 2007, 08:58 PM
Is it just me or hasn't Hulk Hogan been on WWE way too long. I still remember him back when I was very young.. playing him in SEGA and he is STILL in WWE till now.. although he wasn't wrestling consistently..

And my favourite childhood wrestler was The Undertaker.. I guess The Rock came later on, and he was really the people's man but I'm still a loyal fan of The Undertaker :XD though I haven't watch WWE in years... It sure bring back memories talking about wrestling..


It's kinda funny, but my only experience with WWE is through video games. I've never really bothered to watch the actual matches on TV, mostly because I knew they were just following a script. But because of the games, I do have favorite wrestlers anyway. And Undertaker was one ;)

The Rock came after I stopped playing these games though, but I like his movies, heh.

worm34
January 28, 2007, 11:50 PM
Well on MTV, a new show called WSX(wrestling society X) has appeared and I'm actually really impressed, if you want to see how the old ECW was, watch it. It was pretty awesome this week or should I say Freakin Insane.

kadodo
January 28, 2007, 11:56 PM
I did not know it was coming out this week, when do they give it?

By the way, I have a question. A lot of my friends lost interest in wrestling because they said that it was fake. Do you guys think that they really fake. Personaly, I don't think so.

Azurel
January 30, 2007, 11:09 AM
It's kinda funny, but my only experience with WWE is through video games. I've never really bothered to watch the actual matches on TV
Now that is weird, I tot the video game populatrity was because of the matches on TV :XD I saw one of my cousin playing WWE on his ps and the graphics are now 'real' pictures instead of animation..

worm34
January 30, 2007, 06:49 PM
By the way, I have a question. A lot of my friends lost interest in wrestling because they said that it was fake. Do you guys think that they really fake. Personaly, I don't think so.


Before I answer your question let me kinda of go into detail.

Basically we see wrestlers on tv every week wrestling. We see the wrestlers we love win and the wrestler we hate lose or vice versa. Some wrestle for 10 minutes, some wrestle 5 minutes, some even wrestle for a whole hour, they go to the ring, wrestle their opponent and leave. Most of the wrestlers go out there and want to give the fans a entertaining match every single week. After they're done, they travel somewhere else the next day. They make this their life. Wrestling up to 400 matches or less depending on who and who is dedicated.

Now most people think getting slammed on a wrestling ring does not hurt at all. Well imagine this, hey if you want to test it go ahead, a board of plywood on top of a mattress, now getting someone to slam you on it, it indeed hurts. Now think of it this way, getting slammed on the ring up to 10-40 times. They take so many pain killers that sometimes they even get addicted to it. People think it's so easy being a wrestler, but you have to learn how to take care of your opponent, how to keep yourself from getting injured, so many things can happen and in a instance, you can actually become paralyzed. Ala Droz, who was wrestling D low Brown, who botched a powerbomb.

They're are people out there who liked to call wrestling a joke, not a sport, just because it's scripted, but these men risk their bodies on the line each and every night. It is a career that is risky. So honestly, I do not believe wrestling is fake, I think it's a real sport that deserves a lot more credit than it's given.

They should be showing WSX tonight on MTV so don't miss it. 10:30 E. 9:30 C

kadodo
January 30, 2007, 10:32 PM
That's a pretty good explanation but don't you think it is sometime unfair for a wrestler to lose his match on purpose?

worm34
February 01, 2007, 08:42 PM
Well this is debatable, but like I mention before the wrestlers wrestle to entertain the match. Sure losing a match on purpose isn't fun and you might not get the same reaction as the "winner" of the match, but you have to live with it. Most of the times, there are feuds which last for months before ending. For example in Japan, a guy named Kenta Kobashi lost his first 63 matches, but was very well respected, but then again that's Japan. They're so many different types of wrestling fans that each have their own opinion.

worm34
April 09, 2007, 01:35 PM
Haven't posted here in a while here are some matches you guys may like

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v362177J7xMCfAF

Very great match http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351570473130326613&q=ROH

kadodo
April 09, 2007, 01:56 PM
Only had time to watch coupl of minutes of the first one. Great match. I'll probably watch the rest of them later when I have time

Sorata
April 09, 2007, 02:00 PM
I just found this thread and i

kadodo
April 09, 2007, 02:09 PM
I'm glad you found this thread Sorata(worm34 was starting to get mad people were not posting XD!) and I totally agree about the skills of the fighter instead of the habbilitties like you said. However I think that this skill has to do with determination sometimes. Stamina could help someone win a match on occasions but you also have to be skilled.

worm34
April 09, 2007, 02:42 PM
[QUOTE=Sorata;359071]I just found this thread and i

Sorata
April 10, 2007, 03:59 PM
In my country they air TNA, but the coments are in portuguese(and they suck), i just couldn´t make myself to watch it, and in Portugal there is no ROH:(, it´s a pity because everyone talks great about that show. And i know that WWE isn´t the greatest show in the world but what can i do, i like it:(.
My favorite Wrestlers are:
Raw: Edge(my favorite one), Jonhy Nitro, Jeff Hardy, Jonh Cena and Randy Orton.
Smackdown: Undertaker, London and Kendrick(as a tag team) and Batista.
ECW: CM Punk, Bobby Lashley, Elijah Burke and Rob Van Damme.

My favorite matches were:
- Umaga vs Cena in the Royal Rumble for the WWE title
- Jonhy Nitro Vs Jaff Hardy, ladder match for the Intercontinental title
- UnderTaker vs Kurt Angle(don´t remember wich payperview, it was before Wrestlmania22)
- London and Kendrik vs Hardys vs MNM vs Taylor and Reaggle, leadder match for the WWE tag team title
- Edge vs Jonh Cena in the TLC match for the WWE title.

Melina is the Hotest Diva lolololol.

worm34
April 10, 2007, 08:05 PM
Well Sorota you can always mute the channel, maybe that would work lol but then again I usually like listening to what they say sometimes. Well ROH is not on any channel, it's a indy based promotion and I posted a match, but I guess you didn't see it, maybe I'll do a weekly thing and post a good match. ROH MATCH= http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351570473130326613&q=ROH

It's wrestling that will amaze you.

My favorite matches of the WWE has to be
Shawn vs Chris Jericho and Brock Lesnar vs Angle at wrestlemania 19.
Shawn vs Kurt -wrestlemania 20
Hardyz vs Edge and Christian vs the Dudley Boys-TLC match
The Rock vs Austin -Wrestlemania 17

There's ton more but it will involve a lot more Shawn. Shawn is still good, but he has nothing to prove anymore, he's been in tons of 5 star matches. When I say 5 stars I mean actual five stars. But enough with my obsession with Shawn, my favorite match in TNA is

Somoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels vs AJ Styles- One of the greatest matches I have ever seen

Like I said if you want I can post a match each week.

Sorata
April 11, 2007, 04:19 PM
I have loved to watch the match of the Hardyz vs Edge and Christian vs Dudleys, poeple said that was the greatest tag team match ever.
I just saw the Roh match, the Kenta guy is great, a great japanese, put a match every week, that would be cool.
Just a question, why are samoan joe(TNA) and CM Punk(WWE) on some Roh matches????

worm34
April 11, 2007, 06:33 PM
Just a question, why are samoan joe(TNA) and CM Punk(WWE) on some Roh matches????

That's where they started. As soon as Punk joined the WWE, it was a guaranteed deal that he wouldn't appear on ROH. What you see on ECW is not the same CM Punk from ROH, trust me. Somoa Joe is the same deal just with him, he was doing both ROH and TNA, but he decided to just stay in TNA. Although TNA may not last very long since they haven't made a single profit, not even a dime.

Sorata
April 12, 2007, 04:46 PM
CM Punk didn´t have the same character on ROHthat he have now on ECW????
Don´t tell me that in ROH he was a drunk guy lolololol.
How was him on ROH?

worm34
April 12, 2007, 05:08 PM
CM Punk didn´t have the same character on ROHthat he have now on ECW????
Don´t tell me that in ROH he was a drunk guy lolololol.
How was him on ROH?

No, when I mean not the same as he was in ROH, I mean wrestling skill. He's been watered down a lot. Nah, he was never a drunk guy, he's straight edge. The pepsi tattoo tells all. Maybe I can find you a match of when he was in ROH later.

Sorata
April 12, 2007, 07:19 PM
Cool :) :)

kadodo
April 13, 2007, 11:10 PM
For some reason, WWE is still the best for me. Even though ECW and ROh are also known to be good I stil love my SMackdown and Raw comes in second

OH yeah, @ wom34: Isn't ther any female matches that happened in wrestlemania? If yes, care to give me the links to some of the best ones? I like to atch them fight sometimes.

Sorata
April 14, 2007, 02:26 PM
Melina vs Candice Michelle in a Bra and Panties match before Wrestmania 23 is great, Melina is so hottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.
Go to youtube and you will see it.

worm34
April 18, 2007, 07:28 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/cage%2Bmatch/video/x194wb_steel-cage-match-angle-vs-benoit?from=rss

Angle vs Benoit-Steel Cage Match

Sorata
April 24, 2007, 09:10 AM
This sunday the Wrestlmania 23 has been in the air in my country(a beet to late), the match of Cena vs Shawn Michaels were great, i said that because i´m not a great fan of Shawn Michaels, but to me the greatest match was the money in the bank, Edge, CM Punk and Jeff Hardy were great in the match(Jeff is crazy lolol).
Ranking the matches it would be:
1º - Money in the Bank Ladder Match(speechless about this match)
2º - Batista vs Undertaker(The powerslam through the table was great)
3º - Jonh Cena vs Shawn Michaels(the oile driver by Michaels on Cena in the ring steps was the greatest moment of this match)
4º - Battle of the Billionaires(I think Lashley should take Umaga by himself)
5º - MVP vs Chris Benoit(Now i have a new opinion on MVP Skills)
6º - ECW Originals vs New Breed(Van Dam and Burke stole the show)
7º - Melina vs Ashley(Melina is so hottttttttttttttt)
8º - Kane vs Great Khaly(a lame match)

Here goes a Music Video from Shawn Michaels, it´s a great video, almost like a Dragon Ball AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3jgGXEKes

worm34
April 26, 2007, 09:40 PM
This sunday the Wrestlmania 23 has been in the air in my country(a beet to late), the match of Cena vs Shawn Michaels were great, i said that because i´m not a great fan of Shawn Michaels, but to me the greatest match was the money in the bank, Edge, CM Punk and Jeff Hardy were great in the match(Jeff is crazy lolol).
Ranking the matches it would be:
1º - Money in the Bank Ladder Match(speechless about this match)
2º - Batista vs Undertaker(The powerslam through the table was great)
3º - Jonh Cena vs Shawn Michaels(the oile driver by Michaels on Cena in the ring steps was the greatest moment of this match)
4º - Battle of the Billionaires(I think Lashley should take Umaga by himself)
5º - MVP vs Chris Benoit(Now i have a new opinion on MVP Skills)
6º - ECW Originals vs New Breed(Van Dam and Burke stole the show)
7º - Melina vs Ashley(Melina is so hottttttttttttttt)
8º - Kane vs Great Khaly(a lame match)

Here goes a Music Video from Shawn Michaels, it´s a great video, almost like a Dragon Ball AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3jgGXEKes

If you can find survivor series 2002, watch the first ever elimination chamber or try catching Shawn vs HHH at summerslam 2002 somehow. I watched wrestlemania 13, the only matches I liked really were MITB, Cena vs Shawn, and MVP vs Chris Benoit(I love this guy)

Wait never mind, found it for you http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Shawn%2Bvs%2BHHH/video/xm51n_summerslam-2002-hbk-vs-triple-h
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Chris%2BBenoit/video/xz3m3_wcw-chris-benoit-vs-dean-malenko

worm34
June 25, 2007, 05:55 PM
We are still awaiting further details, but PWInsider.com is extremely saddened to report that former WWE and WCW World champion Chris Benoit and his wife, former WCW and ECW personality Nancy "Woman" Benoit were both found dead today in Atlanta, Georgia. Obviously this will be a huge developing story in the days to come but at this point, we'd like to express our deepest condolences to the Benoits' family, friends, and fans at this time.

A meeting is currently ongoing at WWE TV and it is expected that tonight's three hour Raw will now be dedicated to Benoit's memory.

Man, I'm saddened to hear this. Benoit was one of the greatest and now this had to happened. It even makes it more sadder that his family is also dead. Rest in Peace- Chris Benoit, one of the greatest wrestlers to live!

yoniekai
June 26, 2007, 12:36 AM
when i saw the news, my mind just went blank. i havent felt this since eddie guerrero. but chris was murdered along with his family. fck the asshole who killed him. rot in hell mother$$%#$%. benoit is one of the greatest

kadodo
June 26, 2007, 07:45 AM
Are you serious? I did not know that until today. I give my dears condolences to his children and family. This is worst than Eddie Guerrero's death, because now we are sure that this is a murder of not only Chris Benoit but his wife also.

Were there any news on how he was actually killed?

HisshouBuraiKen
June 26, 2007, 08:12 AM
I was really shocked to see that. I haven't watched wrestling in a couple of years but Benoit was always one of my favorites - the man never failed to put on an amazing show.

My favorite matches of his were probably the series he had with Kurt Angle on Smackdown, back in the early days of the brand extension.

Now they're considering that it might've been a double murder-suicide, and that Benoit killed his wife, child, and himself. I don't want to believe that, and I pray it's not the truth.

yoniekai
June 26, 2007, 09:13 AM
he's one of my faves too. benoit's rivalry with triple H and evolution was the best. maaaan i dont know what to say... police are saying it's most likely he killed his family then committed suicide, but that's just... un-benoit. he's a great great man, this would be the last thing i imagine him doing

worm34
June 26, 2007, 12:02 PM
I heard a long time ago that he used to receive threats, but that was a long time ago, I'm just puzzled by this. People sometimes snap, I just hope that didn't occur.......

evaJ
June 26, 2007, 04:35 PM
I had no clue there was a wrestling thread here! Surprise surprise!

The Benoit case is a real tragedy. The mentioning that they found bibles near the bodies of the victims [wife and son] is just bizarre. Then he went and hung himself with those wires from his training machines he has in his house. How messed up is that ? And there was no suicide letter left behind making this a huge mystery. Really sad because I loved him as an entertainer/wrestler, arguably one of the best ever, and he never seemed like an unbalanced man that would do this kind of thing.

Anyway, I'm a huge wrestling fan. Most of the times I watch Raw, sometimes ECW online. We don't get, well I don't get Smackdown here. I would like to add that the best heel in the business right now is Edge. No questions asked [in my opinion]. My favorite wrestler ever... very hard to pick, but I would go with Bret Hart. Shawn Michaels is very high up on the list, so is Chris Benoit regardless of what happened in real life. Austin and the Rock are also honorable mentions. I could go on forever, but for now I should shut up.

kadodo
June 27, 2007, 11:56 AM
It was sad for me to hear these news as well. However, one thing that bothers me is that why did WWE Raw made a 3 hour show in his honor? I mean, I liked the guy as a wrestler but for a husband to take a wire and struggle his wife to death; and a father to strangle his seven year old son to death is a big crime to me, what's really there to honor? Whatever the reason, there was no use to get this far by killing your own family. And he had a bible next to the bodies? If he really read the bible he would know that there is something that says : "Thou shall not kill" ans especially yourself.

I will remember his great matches but his last act was just cruel.

yoniekai
June 27, 2007, 12:06 PM
i keep thinking about stuff when i heard about the bible, like a cult or a staged murder, i dont know, it just really sucks... WWE has said not to mention the name benoit, i heard from my friend, i dunno, maybe the organization felt pissed. the killing was deliberate, not out of rage. i dont want to accept benoit did it, but that's what it clearly shows. nevertheless, WWE is right to pay tribute, tho it maybe wrong to say this, the last act still can't erase all the great things benoit did over the years

evaJ
June 27, 2007, 02:23 PM
WWE had to distance themselves from Benoit because of the complaints they had received about the whole thing. As in glorifying a murderer and such. People are very sensitive in this day and age. Personally I don't want to justify his actions, but like you guys in here I can't and won't erase his wrestling career.

worm34
June 27, 2007, 06:20 PM
It was sad for me to hear these news as well. However, one thing that bothers me is that why did WWE Raw made a 3 hour show in his honor? I mean, I liked the guy as a wrestler but for a husband to take a wire and struggle his wife to death; and a father to strangle his seven year old son to death is a big crime to me, what's really there to honor? Whatever the reason, there was no use to get this far by killing your own family. And he had a bible next to the bodies? If he really read the bible he would know that there is something that says : "Thou shall not kill" ans especially yourself.

I will remember his great matches but his last act was just cruel.

Well they did the tribute before they found this out. I'm not going to jump into conclusions yet until the autopsies are done, it's barely the first week. One time they said this woman committed suicide, but then it was found out that she was murdered later so I'll wait.

Venom65437
June 27, 2007, 08:56 PM
Well, I am not much of a Pro Wrestling fan anymore, but I remember Benoit and was surprised to hear about this. All the evidence seems to point to murder-suicide and that's just sad. It's too bad we'll probably never be able to be 100% sure about why this happened.

worm34
June 29, 2007, 02:18 AM
To update apparently 14 hours before the bodies were found, someone posted on wikipedia about the death of his wife. Strange....

evaJ
June 29, 2007, 11:47 PM
It has been said that the person who posted that has come out and said it was just speculation. Supposedly they [investigators] have taken his computers, but not much more to it. And Benoit's personal physician/doctor's office has been raided twice by the DEA [Drug Enforcement Administration]. He could be in some trouble.

Or better yet, piece of the article from a wrestling news site:

Investigators seized computers believed to belong to the individual who posted a Wikipedia entry late Sunday night stating that Nancy Benoit had died some 13 hours before she was discovered deceased in her home. "It is unbelievable what a hindrance this has put on our investigation. We've got to put a lot of effort and time into working to prove or disprove that someone put up a hoax situation or that somebody was conceiving the death from out of state," Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News.