Naruto 579 Discussion

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[insid3rkill3r]

Dear god...... Kabuto seems rediculously strong, and yet they can only capture him alive.... no wonder both Sasuke and Itachi are needed now.

[LnDRash]

Wow those first spoiler pics look amazing! Kabuto looks realy bad-ass... and he has legs!!

I have no idea whats going on there but damn... this is already giving me a bigger fangasm then Tsunade punching Susanoo!

[edit]Omfg?? He's a snake sage AND has Suigetsu's liquefaction technique?? Damn... thats so freakin awesome I don't even know what to say...

:wtf

And Karin being an Uzumaki? Looks like I was right then!

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/75283-Naruto-575-Discussion?p=2799192&viewfull=1#post2799192

[barbeque]

looks like there is also a snake sage other than the old toad sage

[insid3rkill3r]

Ya, Kabuto is apparently using something similar to sage mode... which actually turns him into a dragon. Seems interesting, i just hope Kishi handles it well.

[yonjuushichi]

Yeah Kabuto is no pushover, he will keep Super Uchiha Brothers really busy. I guess Kabuto has surpassed Orochimaru in every possible way. Even Tsunade complimented Kabuto on being able to perform medical jutsus on par with her. IMHO Kabuto will try to show now that he was able to make himself "immortal' using different ways than Oro. With his med skills and Orochimaru's body's regenerative powers everything is possible :P

[imvho]

didnt kabuto have already a regenerative body?

[Naruto2011]

Wow I guess it's official
Kabuto > Orochimaru

[jaymizzo]

Funny how some people expected Kabuto to get 1 shotted. Laughable.

[Thoughtful1]

Are these confirmed? The source doesn't work for me when I click it and it just sounds weird. The pictures do have snake Kabuto though.

[jaymizzo]

And Karin being Uzumaki really isnt big news nor a big surprise.

[LnDRash]

If Itachi releases Orochimaru and he sees Kabuto he'll just say: "Kabuto... how can you do this to me..?? You make me look like a complete loser..." Then he takes out his Kusanagi and commits suicide :P

Btw: lol @people who thought Kabuto was shitting his pants when he didn't want to fight Tobi and later when he tried to pull Sasuke on his side against Itachi.

Kabuto is just the type of villain who avoids direct conflict whenever its unnecessary. He prefers to play save and doesn't take unnecessary risks, no matter how small those risks may be, because he actually likes to use his BRAIN :p

[Jorge D. Dragon]

The spoiler looks damn interesting!
So there are different types of Sage Mode and not only Turtle Sage Mode... Then it might really turn to be a good fight, especially as they must catch him and not kill. If his body is already even better than Oro's in turms of regeneration and if he has abilities like Karin and Suigetsu had... then he might be a real beast and the only way they can get him is an illusion, but it was expected by everyone that his downfall should be handled by some sort of Tsukiyomy.:)

And Karin being an Uzumaki... that's an interesting thing. Even though there were theories about this, cause she had red hair... the confirmation of this is good. So the Uzumaki clan can be still revived. And I hope we will see it in the end of the manga.:) I also hope there will be more Uzumakis in the World.;)

P.S. Maybe in the upcoming chapters we may learn more about Uzumakis and their powers.

[jaymizzo]

It still doesnt change the fact that regardless of how strong Kabuto is he is still going to lose. I actually hoped that he went on for longer tbh. His end is approaching.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Yes, that's a pity. Especially after he showed to have such a great abilities as better Edo Tensei, better Orochimaru's abilities and some sort of Snake-Dragon Sennin Mode as well as Karin's and Suigetsu's abilities... then it might be justified that he will go down by the hands of immortal Itachi and evolved Sasuke with EMS...

[LnDRash]

It still doesnt change the fact that regardless of how strong Kabuto is he is still going to lose. I actually hoped that he went on for longer tbh. His end is approaching.

Who cares? The manga looks like its approaching its end... and since Kabuto is a villain he has to get beaten at some point anyway. Better he goes out in an awesome fight against two of the most powerful and bad-ass Ninja available then later being Bijuu-Dama-Rasengan'd by Naruto and friends.

[ninjabot]

Well I am pleasantly surprised... and a bit urked. Sasuke could've had a Sage Mode of his own if he hadn't switched to Hawks. Meh, whatever. It's for the best. Don't wanna see him throwing giants into the stratosphere.

I'm guessing the Snake Sage Mode isn't the same as the toad version, as Kabuto wouldn't need to liquify himself it it was as durable as Toad Sage Mode. It's even possible that it isn't affiliated with the original Sage Mode in any way, and that it's just a transformation learned from the Sage of Snakes. I guess this explains the snake outfit. Just like Naruto's red jacket after reaching Sagehood, I'm guessing Kabuto's hood represents his stature among snakes.

As for Uzumaki Karin, atleast we know where Sasuke's Senju DNA is gonna come from once he gains Rinnegan, lmao. He may already have it from biting her.

[LnDRash]

Damn... I'am already itching to unleash this beast on the Konohagakure Arena..! :smile-big

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Yes, it seems like it might be different in its usage and its benefits than Toad's Sage Mode, but if it is something of the same caliber... well it will make him way stronger than the same Oro.
Hope he won't go down in one chapter.:) Such an ability needs to be shown in a good fight.

P.S. The thing I don't really get is why Kabuto didn't get Sharingan or even Rinnegan for himself if he is such a medical genius? He showed to not only manage to evolve himself, but also he was able to perfect Madara in Edo Tensei, then he might have used Madara's and Hashirama's DNA to make himself even stronger.

[Thoughtful1]

Perhaps this is what she did to him. Though, I'm not sure why she wanted to hide that from him. Pssh, he was always so mean to her and she may have given him the DNA.

I'm surprised she never commented on this when she met Naruto. In fact she seemed to crush out on him now that she doesn't care for Sasuke. Incest....lol

According to the databook, Karin left her village because she knew danger was coming and that how she lived. This may have been the destruction of the Uzumaki clan. Damn, she could have warned them!

[LnDRash]

P.S. The thing I don't really get is why Kabuto didn't get Sharingan or even Rinnegan for himself if he is such a medical genius? He showed to not only manage to evolve himself, but also he was able to perfect Madara in Edo Tensei, then he might have used Madara's and Hashirama's DNA to make himself even stronger.

Maybe he already modified his body so much that he didn't want to inject even more DNA from dozens of different people until he has enough research data to make sure its save. I'am sure not even Kabuto wants to end up as a stereotypical composite blob.

[ninjabot]

@LnDRash: You might wanna wait til we know what Snake Sage Mode actually does, lol. So far all we know is Kabuto can liquify himself and... change his appearance. Oh, and that he has legs.

@Jorge D. Dragon: He probably was too concerned with keeping his body from being taken over by Orochimaru's DNA to worry about giving himself Sharingan. Not to mention the only Sharingan he could ever find are leftover dead eyes. Hence his need for Sasuke. He has prime, live, fresh eyes.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Yes, it seems like it might be different in its usage and its benefits than Toad's Sage Mode, but if it is something of the same caliber... well it will make him way stronger than the same Oro.
Hope he won't go down in one chapter.:) Such an ability needs to be shown in a good fight.

P.S. The thing I don't really get is why Kabuto didn't get Sharingan or even Rinnegan for himself if he is such a medical genius? He showed to not only manage to evolve himself, but also he was able to perfect Madara in Edo Tensei, then he might have used Madara's and Hashirama's DNA to make himself even stronger.

He would've stomped on Itachi and Sasuke that way.

Still good spoilers, like the bit of the dragon, like a bit less the part of Sennin Mode, it is probably unrelated to Naruto and Jiraiya's, since it wouldn't be a smart move to recycle powers over and over, still how damn good Kabuto is?
He really would have unlimited potential if he obtains Sasuke, I mean imagine Sasuke's eyes with Kabutomaru's powers, the Hoozuki clan powers and Karin's healing. Nothing apart of a perfect Jinchuuriki or ET Madara would even scratch him. Damn.

Karin, an Uzumaki? Predictable, and probably the way for Sasuke to obtain Rin'negan.
I really guess that, after all this, Sasuke should just build a monument to Karin, not only she saved his ass over and over, but she could also grant him the Rin'negan?

[LnDRash]

@LnDRash: You might wanna wait til we know what Snake Sage Mode actually does, lol. So far all we know is Kabuto can liquify himself and... change his appearance. Oh, and that he has legs.

The liquefaction is already more then enough to troll most of Pains jutsu... or Minato's Kunai's and Rasengans! And unlike Suigetsu Kabuto has some damn good offense as well :P

And don't belittle those legs!! I'am so happy he didn't end up being a Naga with three tiny little feet like the first time we've seen him naked!

[ninjabot]

Either way, using the liquefication should keep him from running low on chakra since he won't have to use Oral Rebirth constantly (even though it looks like he's used it once in the chapter already). And if the Snake Sage Mode is anything like the Toad Sage Mode then his basic abilities are increased several fold meaning he may or may not have Genjutsu expertise pushed up high enough that he can break out of Tsukuyomi the basic way (Kai), without any other catch.

I'm more concerned with seeing his offensive capabilities though.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Maybe he really didn't want to get more DNA as he didn't know how his body will react for now, but actually if he would have added some DNA from Uzumaki, Uchiha and Senju and would have gotten the Rinnegan... then he might have become the strongest Shinobi after Naruto alive.:)

Also it seems like his vertion of Sennin Mode permits him to fight with his eyes closed to not let Sasuke and Itachi perform a genjutsu on him, thus the fight might get interesting.:) At this point it might last for several chapters.:)

[Sonia Khan]

WOW , Kabuto with Sage Mode and Tons of abilities, Interesting :)

[xXan]

OH! Now we know who Naruto is going to end up with... KARIN because the Uzumachi clan was to cool not to be remade ! :P

PS. I hope its not Naruto's SM mode but some other type of mode that he just turns into that dragon thing.

[ninjabot]

Completely forgot about that: Sage Mode allows you to sense chakra. You can keep your eyes closed and just "feel" out your enemy. That's another potential ability he'd have, and another potential Genjutsu defense. Not to mention as a snake he can sense heat with his tongue and has an acute sense of smell (like when his ass-snake sniffed out Sasuke when he first arrived).

[xXan]

Well kabuto is damn lucky they don't whant to kill him...

[insid3rkill3r]

ahhh... the cursed seal is somewhat of a partial dragon transformation from what im getting... it explains Sasuke s wings for instance...

[Rikudou King]

*slowly clap hands in renewed respect*

While I had no doubt Kabuto would manage to pull something out to make the battle last a while, I was totally not expecting him to become a Snake Sage. Now I'm even more sadden that Sasuke didn't keep his snake abilities. I'm glad the rest of Team Taka is getting some love, even if it's by proxy. can't wait to see what else Kabuto will pull out. And I guess with confirmation that she's a Uzumaki, this means that Karin's village that was destroyed was indeed where the Uzumaki clan dwell.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

So now it seems that Itachi's and Sasuke's task is way more difficult than we expected from the first sight...
Especially as Kabuto can sense chakra and has uppered his physical capabilities through aquering new version of Sage Mode and also getting Suigetsu's ability and also in a better form.

Maybe they can try to use Amaterasu on him at least a little in order to toast him a bit and make a bit weaker.;)

[xXan]

I am actualy curious what is Naruto going to say when he finds out Karin is Uzumachi so family in a sense. Something tells me she is going to go all mushi on Naruto eventualy and become somebody really close to him, like a sister. Kishi's mind works that way. Naruto needs some real family for once.


So now it seems that Itachi's and Sasuke's task is way more difficult than we expected from the first sight...
Especially as Kabuto can sense chakra and has uppered his physical capabilities through aquering new version of Sage Mode and also getting Suigetsu's ability and also in a better form.

Maybe they can try to use Amaterasu on him at least a little in order to toast him a bit and make a bit weaker.;)

We don't have any information Kabuto's SM is the same as Naruto's.. For one Naruto does not turn into a dragon or anything like that. Its probably something diferent.

[LnDRash]

Completely forgot about that: Sage Mode allows you to sense chakra. You can keep your eyes closed and just "feel" out your enemy. That's another potential ability he'd have, and another potential Genjutsu defense. Not to mention as a snake he can sense heat with his tongue and has an acute sense of smell (like when his ass-snake sniffed out Sasuke when he first arrived).

Snakes can even locate their prey by feeling the slight vibrations in the ground caused by their prey's movement.

Probably most of his senses are so advanced that he realy doesn't have to be afraid of Genjutsu... whenever an enemy messes up one of his senses, he just switches to another one... and when all else fails, his Snake-tail busts him out :amuse

[Sonia Khan]

It still doesnt change the fact that regardless of how strong Kabuto is he is still going to lose. I actually hoped that he went on for longer tbh. His end is approaching.

Well that fact is the fate of every Manga villian, so he is no exception :)

[xXan]

Snakes can even locate their prey be feeling the slight vibrations in the ground caused by their prey's movement.

Probably most of his senses are so advanced that he realy doesn't have to be afraid of Genjutsu... whenever an enem messes up one of his senses, he just switches to another one... and when all else fails, his Snake-tail busts him out :amuse

Nop, if he actualy get's hit by genjutsu ALL his senses are effected AT THE SAME TIME. But he can keep his eyes closed so he does not get hit by genjutsu.

PS. there is NO busting out of genjutsu if its Itachi MS. That snake can't do it.

[Sonia Khan]

Snakes can even locate their prey by feeling the slight vibrations in the ground caused by their prey's movement.

Probably most of his senses are so advanced that he realy doesn't have to be afraid of Genjutsu... whenever an enemy messes up one of his senses, he just switches to another one... and when all else fails, his Snake-tail busts him out :amuse

how will he counter Arial attacks, like Susano Arrows and Shirukens if he kept his eyes closed ???

[xXan]

how will he counter Arial attacks, like Susano Arrows and Shirukens if he kept his eyes closed ???

Sound, chakra sensing, using pets to send signals to his brain and so on. Posibility exists but we need to w8 for the manga to know what is what.

[ninjabot]

I think he means, if he finds out that he's casting Genjutsu through a certain sense, he can stop relying on that one sense and focus on another. For example: right now he knows to expect optical Genjutsu, so he can close his eyes and rely on his hearing or whatever. If he were fighting Ma and Pa toad and knew about Frog Song, he could cover his ears AND eyes and still be able to find them via smell. He can sacrifice a sense to avoid Genjutsu without being completely incapable of staying on the offensive.

Potentially.

[enmymiguel]

soo this was suppose to be oro sage mode, now i know why oro was stronger then j-man if they would fight all out. j-man would look like a frog but oro like a dragon.
how the hell can kabuto have all those ability combine, hes a lair. i mean he lie to tobi when he say that naruto and bee was too much for him. he could destroy both with all this ability that he has.

can sasuke use that sanin mode, it will be cool cause naruto and him could start a fight from level 1 to the point were both look like monsters.

[ninjabot]

I sure hope Orochimaru was capable of this mode. I don't think it's something only achievable through genetic modification.

[Sonia Khan]

I am actualy curious what is Naruto going to say when he finds out Karin is Uzumachi so family in a sense. Something tells me she is going to go all mushi on Naruto eventualy and become somebody really close to him, like a sister. Kishi's mind works that way. Naruto needs some real family for once.



We don't have any information Kabuto's SM is the same as Naruto's.. For one Naruto does not turn into a dragon or anything like that. Its probably something diferent.

Well Dragon wont be in the sense that he start to look like one, instead he is refering towards the increase in furiousity and abilities..

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Still if it's a Sage Mode and he can fight with his closed eyes he should sense not only presense, but also chakra as Nature Energy alouds him to perform this. Of course it isn't totally the same as Naruto, but some basic things that derive from usage of Nature energy are the same.:)

Also I agree that it would be great if Naruto learns that Karin is also an Uzumaki. It doesn't really matter if she becomes his sister or his future wife, but still she should survive and be near him.:)

[xXan]

I think he means, if he finds out that he's casting Genjutsu through a certain sense, he can stop relying on that one sense and focus on another. For example: right now he knows to expect optical Genjutsu, so he can close his eyes and rely on his hearing or whatever. If he were fighting Ma and Pa toad and knew about Frog Song, he could cover his ears AND eyes and still be able to find them via smell. He can sacrifice a sense to avoid Genjutsu without being completely incapable of staying on the offensive.

Potentially.

I don't know if that is what he was refering to as he stated:


whenever an enemy messes up one of his senses

So he is asuming the enemy already messed up one of his senses.

Even covering your ears would not stop the sound. Even vibrations traveling trough the skull and it could be enough to do it. But of course even if you try to cover you ears and listen to music (that is loud enough) you are going to hear it.


Still if it's a Sage Mode and he can fight with his closed eyes he should sense not only presense, but also chakra as Nature Energy alouds him to perform this. Of course it isn't totally the same as Naruto, but some basic things that derive from usage of Nature energy are the same.:)

Also I agree that it would be great if Naruto learns that Karin is also an Uzumaki. It doesn't really matter if she becomes his sister or his future wife, but still she should survive and be near him.:)

Is there any indication in the spoilers that Kabuto is using Nature Energy? All i noticed is something about sennin mode stuff. Anyway i gues we need to w8 for the chapter :P

[LnDRash]

Nop, if he actualy get's hit by genjutsu ALL his senses are effected AT THE SAME TIME. But he can keep his eyes closed so he does not get hit by genjutsu.

Not all genjutsu are the same. Different types of genjutsu can have different effects. Not to mention that an enemy actually has to manipulate those senses in order to make the genjutsu work... I imagine that as being hard for people who don't even possess some of those senses.

For example: How do you mess up Sage-Mode's chakra sensing if you have no idea how that sense actually works, since you never experienced it for youself?

[Sonia Khan]

soo this was suppose to be oro sage mode, now i know why oro was stronger then j-man if they would fight all out. j-man would look like a frog but oro like a dragon.
how the hell can kabuto have all those ability combine, hes a lair. i mean he lie to tobi when he say that naruto and bee was too much for him. he could destroy both with all this ability that he has.

can sasuke use that sanin mode, it will be cool cause naruto and him could start a fight from level 1 to the point were both look like monsters.

Well the reason he didnt went all out, becoz he wanted to save all these abilities for later, Besides he is a Medical Genius, he can do what ever he wants with all the data and DNAs he have access to ...

[enmymiguel]

well not only i got the chance to see dragon in onepiece but now im going to see it here in naruto.

well if all the uzumaki have a red hair and act stupid like naruto and hes mom. well karin is red hair and she act like naruto mom. guess they cant hide they uzumaki related

[ninjabot]

Not to mention it's stated that Genjutsu is reliant heavily on attention to detail. When placing someone in a Genjutsu you have to account for all their senses, so if you don't know they can sense chakra you won't know to make them think they're sensing something. You can fool their sight, hearing, smell, and touch all in one, but if they rely on their chakra sense then the illusion fails.

[Sonia Khan]

Not all genjutsu are the same. Different types of genjutsu can have different effects. Not to mention that an enemy actually has to manipulate those senses in order to make the genjutsu work... I imagine that as being hard for people who don't even possess some of those senses.

For example: How do you mess up Sage-Mode's chakra sensing if you have no idea how that sense actually works, since you never experienced it for youself?

Well Genjutsu can be of any kind, they can force u to sense what u arent and they can force u not to sense what u r sensing right now...

[Jorge D. Dragon]

xXan
If he really uses some form of Sennin Mode, well then he will eventually use Nature Energy.:) It's inevitable, though I agree that we should wait for the chapter's release to see.:)

[barbeque]

well if kabuto shut his eyes to prevent being hit by tsukuyomi then Itachi might surprise everybody and start singing and trap him into a different form of genjutsu (like ma and pa frog). XD

[jiro]

take away kabuto's glasses... kabuto goes blind.:derp


he looks ugly.

[LnDRash]

Not to mention it's stated that Genjutsu is reliant heavily on attention to detail. When placing someone in a Genjutsu you have to account for all their senses, so if you don't know they can sense chakra you won't know to make them think they're sensing something. You can fool their sight, hearing, smell, and touch all in one, but if they rely on their chakra sense then the illusion fails.

A good example for that would be Nidaime Mizukage's Genjutsu. It messes up your sense of vision and apparently also prevents chakra sensing. But if you can find your opponent by smell, feeling vibrations in the ground or even by feeling his body heat, then you have numerous other options to rely on. Thats basically what I meant to say with my first post.

[joshua019]

wtf kabuto is a sage!! that confirms it that not only frogs makes you sage!

[Masterpice]

Ok now if Kishi gave so much to this character...even sage mode...I don't know how did he get to those frogs or whatever....I guess he just surpassed J-man and Naruto since he worked sennin mode out without anyones help- thats just ridiculous IMO- don't let him lose. Itachi and Sasuke or not...if Kabuto will lose this fight i'm not going to read Naruto again in this year...I will wait till January 2013. Sadly my spider sense is tingling and I think that something similar to what happened to Danzou is going to happen...Kishi again is going to "hype" the character up to the point of "ridiculous" and then he will let Sasuke crash him.

[thornofcarrion]

Kabuto was a trouble from the start. Back then, he gave Tsunade a run for her money. With his & Oro's abilities, I am not surprised he has surpassed Oro. Snake Sage mode, if toads can do it, why not. Karin is a Uzumaki >.<

[ninjabot]

A good example for that would be Nidaime Mizukage's Genjutsu. It messes up your sense of vision and apparently also prevents chakra sensing. But if you can find your opponent by smell, feeling vibrations in the ground or even by feeling his body heat, then you have numerous other options to rely on. Thats basically what I meant to say with my first post.

Ah, okay.

Anyway, I expected Sasuke to be the aggressor. He's gonna be the guinea pig while Itachi watches and puts together a strategy (like when he helped stop Nagato's Chibaku Tensei). I'm perfectly fine with that, because I'd rather see Sasuke do the majority of the work anyway.

[LnDRash]

wtf kabuto is a sage!! that confirms it that not only frogs makes you sage!

So... are we going to revive the "Kisame is a Shark-Sage" theory? :smile-big

[TemplateR]

Chapter 579 is out (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/)

[jaymizzo]

Who cares? The manga looks like its approaching its end... and since Kabuto is a villain he has to get beaten at some point anyway. Better he goes out in an awesome fight against two of the most powerful and bad-ass Ninja available then later being Bijuu-Dama-Rasengan'd by Naruto and friends.

Ofcourse he will lose eventually, but he just became a villain (main i guess) and he is going to lose in the span of 3-5 chapters IMO. I wanted him to go on for long, i wanted the moons eye plan to fall through.

And seriously, Naruto hasnt even used a bijuudama on Tobi. And id rather see him killed by Naruto than be fodderised by Sasuke and Itachi.

[Masterpice]

So Kabuto figured out sage mode, secret hozuki clan technique, techniques of Uzumaki clan which is long gone so it's pretty much secret technique too and all of this by himself...and yet he still didn't find anything to help him fight sharingan genjutsu...that's just lame.

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wtf kabuto is a sage!! that confirms it that not only frogs makes you sage!

Yeah apparently Kishi can make you Sage too. :D

[ninjabot]

Ok now if Kishi gave so much to this character...even sage mode...I don't know how did he get to those frogs or whatever....I guess he just surpassed J-man and Naruto since he worked sennin mode out without anyones help- thats just ridiculous IMO- don't let him lose. Itachi and Sasuke or not...if Kabuto will lose this fight i'm not going to read Naruto again in this year...I will wait till January 2013. Sadly my spider sense is tingling and I think that something similar to what happened to Danzou is going to happen...Kishi again is going to "hype" the character up to the point of "ridiculous" and then he will let Sasuke crash him.

I don't remember Danzou being hyped. Like, ever. Also, Kabuto's aquiring Sage Made wasn't technically by himself. We see a scan of him talking to an Elder Snake. Not to mention it was probably his master's DNA that allowed him to reach this form anyway. Not belittling him though. Just saying his aquiring Sage Mode places him above Orochimaru, but doesn't place him above Sasuke and Itachi. Not until we see his offensive capabilities atleast.

[LnDRash]

Ah, okay.

Anyway, I expected Sasuke to be the aggressor. He's gonna be the guinea pig while Itachi watches and puts together a strategy (like when he helped stop Nagato's Chibaku Tensei). I'm perfectly fine with that, because I'd rather see Sasuke do the majority of the work anyway.

Agreed, we've basically seen everything Itachi is capable of anyway, while Sasuke's EMS on the other hand is still mostly shrouded in mystery. I hope that both, Sasuke and Kabuto have plenty of surprises for eachother and push themselves to their limits. Been a long time since we had a fight with multiple twists.

[jaymizzo]

ninjabot

Well I am pleasantly surprised... and a bit urked. Sasuke could've had a Sage Mode of his own if he hadn't switched to Hawks. Meh, whatever. It's for the best. Don't wanna see him throwing giants into the stratosphere.

Doubt it, Kabuto had to find theyre realm, meaning he knew they existed. Sasuke never seemed to care much for the snakes. Maybe he will get Falcon mode.


As for Uzumaki Karin, atleast we know where Sasuke's Senju DNA is gonna come from once he gains Rinnegan, lmao. He may already have it from biting her.

As funny as that seems, it would just be cheap. Makes sense sure and no argument could be made to counter it, But isnt Hashiramas face or actual DNA required? Not the watered down versions?

[Suzaku]

According to the spoiler, it's called "Sennin Mode", same as Naruto's. Presumably the only difference is that he trained with the White Snake Sage and takes on the appearance of a snake instead of a frog.

Orochimaru was apparantly never able to master it.

Wonder if there's a Slug Sage too? Granny Tsunade in Slug Sage Mode, there's a pretty picture...

[Uchiha_Blood]

Damn. Just... Damn.
This chapter is beyond epic

[jaymizzo]

Chapter out (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/)

[ninjabot]

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/5.html

Hah! Good to see I was right. Also good to see Sasuke schooling Itachi on the workings of snakes. I'm already loving the brother dynamic.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

So it's confirmed that Kabuto uses Nature Force:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/16.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/17.html
So it's also Sennin Mode. but in a different Way than Narruto's but it still uses Nature Chakra.:)

[Masterpice]

Oh...I so would like to see which Sennin mode is stronger...frog's or snake's...this sennin mode crap is so calling for Naruto vs Kabuto.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Sasuke is finally treated by Itachi as an equal, and he actually lectures his big brother on snakes.
"You've learned a lot... Dr. Snakes"
Itachi clearly underestimates Kabuto and Orochimaru's powers way too much, imho.
And damn! Sage mode enables to be a sensor capable to dodge a Susano'o Arrow, a feat even a sharingan-equipped Kakashi couldn't do? Really, really good ( by the way, Kabuto waving his finger after dodging the arrow is priceless ).
First time we saw Itachi with something akin to surprise and worry, while Sasuke is his usual cocky self. And Kabuto's Sage Mode looks neat.
All in all, a perfect chapter, even the art was great, the double spreads with Kyuubi and the Susano'o are real pieces of art

[nichendrix]

As funny as that seems, it would just be cheap. Makes sense sure and no argument could be made to counter it, But isnt Hashiramas face or actual DNA required? Not the watered down versions?

Nagato was Uzumaki, so yes, all Senju descendants at least to a certain point could get Rinnegan if they get some, or any Uchiha power.

[jaymizzo]

The Two Susano'os look awsome together

[Uchiha_Blood]

And seeing that the snakes are the ones that gathers nature chakra, he can effectively turn into Sage Mode while moving.
Well Kabuto, you wanted to surpass Orochimaru? You did it.
Grandly

[nichendrix]

Orochimaru was apparantly never able to master it.

I don't think so, The Sanin all are said to be sages, implying that all of then got Sage Mode somehow.

[jaymizzo]

Nagato was Uzumaki, so yes, all Senju descendants at least to a certain point could get Rinnegan if they get some, or any Uchiha power.

We really dont know what actually went down with Kabuto tbh.

Danzou had both Uchiha and Sage mode DNA yet he never achieved MS or even EMS or Rinnengan. I doubt a little blood could grant someone the rinnengan.

[ninjabot]

God damn this is alot of revelations. I can't stop grinning, lol.

And I guess it's pretty much confirmed that the Sage Mode is identical to the Toad Sage Mode, since it allows one to sense chakra aswell. And Itachi is really in the know about all this stuff, lol. And if Orochimaru was looking for the perfect body to use Ryuichidou, does that mean Sasuke could have potentially gained it thanks to being the "perfect host" as he dubbed him?

And Juugo uses the force of nature? Friggin' WHAT!?!

Man.

[LnDRash]

Sasuke is finally treated by Itachi as an equal, and he actually lectures his big brother on snakes.
"You've learned a lot... Dr. Snakes"
Itachi clearly underestimates Kabuto and Orochimaru's powers way too much, imho.
And damn! Sage mode enables to be a sensor capable to dodge a Susano'o Arrow, a feat even a sharingan-equipped Kakashi couldn't do? Really, really good ( by the way, Kabuto waving his finger after dodging the arrow is priceless ).
First time we saw Itachi with something akin to surprise and worry, while Sasuke is his usual cocky self. And Kabuto's Sage Mode looks neat.
All in all, a perfect chapter, even the art was great, the double spreads with Kyuubi and the Susano'o are real pieces of art

Couldn't agree more.

From the spoilers I was under the impression there would be less talking and a bit more jutsu-spamming. I was also expecting we are going to see the Dragon Form at the end of the chapter, but instead he just initiated the jutsu and we are going to see it next week. Oh well, not that I complain though... it was a great chapter, especially for a Kabuto fan like me :)

[peinfollower]

This was a cool chapter don't get me wrong, but was anyone else expecting Sasuke's Susanoo to look different without the armor?

[jaymizzo]

God damn this is alot of revelations. I can't stop grinning, lol.

And I guess it's pretty much confirmed that the Sage Mode is identical to the Toad Sage Mode, since it allows one to sense chakra aswell. And Itachi is really in the know about all this stuff, lol. And if Orochimaru was looking for the perfect body to use Ryuichidou, does that mean Sasuke could have potentially gained it thanks to being the "perfect host" as he dubbed him?

And Juugo uses the force of nature? Friggin' WHAT!?!

Man.

Orochimaru wanted Sasukes body for the Sharingan, same way he wanted Itachis. He wanted to gain Rikudous power.

[Mack]

Sasuke training against actual sage mode. Bad news for Naruto here.

[Thoughtful1]

So Kabuto took Sasuke's team and is using them against him. Very ironic. Kabuto had said that both Itachi and Sasuke were left alone by their friends and now mentions that taka's members are no longer friends with Sasuke. I wonder if Karin will escape, go to the other two, tell them Sasuke stabbed her and lead them to help out Kabuto with those scrolls. I don't really care for Taka, but that could be interesting.

That's what happens when one uses people like Sasuke did. They do no love him unconditionally like team 7. I think that contrast started with Suigestu and his jealousy of Sasuke, then when comparing Karin's faded obsession with Sakura's undying love, and finally Juggo not really caring for Sasuke but for his brother.

[Masterpice]

And again Kishi ends chapter this way...nevertheless good chapter IMO. I hope Kabuto will win cause when something cool happens like snake/dragon Sage mode I don't want it to end in the next 3-4 chapters. I really wouldn't mind if Kabuto would be the one who would stop Sasuke :P...sadly it's not going to happen. I wonder if anyone will tell Naruto and Karin that they are from the same clan...so....Uzumaki Karin. I think it's time and Naruto should find someone from uzumaki clan who can do more than just heal someone by getting bitten.
[BTW: It's not fair that snake sage mode turns you into dragon and Frog's sage mode just turns you into a strong frog]

[Murdock]

Does anyone know what shikkosturin is?

[jaymizzo]

Does anyone know what shikkosturin is?

If we refer to the 3 Sannins, then probably the Slug realm?

[danzouismadara]

Does anyone know what shikkosturin is?

where the slug sage is

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since when snakes turn into dragons??? how come the head snake sage isnt a dragon?

[Murdock]

ok thought so .. .just wasn't sure about the reference... gosh it's getting more and more crazy ... Kinda don't like the story is heading to --- famous, places of legends ... kinda weird

[ninjabot]

Orochimaru wanted Sasukes body for the Sharingan, same way he wanted Itachis. He wanted to gain Rikudous power.

Right, but he obviously was pursuing Ryuichidou in addition to pursuing Sasuke's eyes. He wanted to learn all ninjutsu, he stated once. And Sage Mode isn't something you can aquire just from having a Sharingan.

[Masterpice]

God damn this is alot of revelations. I can't stop grinning, lol.

And I guess it's pretty much confirmed that the Sage Mode is identical to the Toad Sage Mode, since it allows one to sense chakra aswell. And Itachi is really in the know about all this stuff, lol. And if Orochimaru was looking for the perfect body to use Ryuichidou, does that mean Sasuke could have potentially gained it thanks to being the "perfect host" as he dubbed him?

And Juugo uses the force of nature? Friggin' WHAT!?!

Man.

No I really thinks taht Oro wanted Sasuke only because of sharingan....and Itachi was to powerfull to grab him.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Couldn't agree more.

From the spoilers I was under the impression there would be less talking and a bit more jutsu-spamming. I was also expecting we are going to see the Dragon Form at the end of the chapter, but instead he just initiated the jutsu and we are going to see it next week. Oh well, not that I complain though... it was a great chapter, especially for a Kabuto fan like me :)

It is refreshing to see a villain that doesn't uses Sharingan for a change.
Still this chapter explains so much, and yet poses a tons of questions:
Juugo is a natural Sage? What body does one require to be a Snake Sennin if freakin' Orochimaru didn't have it? Seeing as Kabuto is facing the brothers directly now, does Sage Mode renders Genjutsu useless?
The third legendary location is Slug-related? Will Hashirama have Sage Mode because Kishi wants to give him another hax?

[Masterpice]

Sasuke training against actual sage mode. Bad news for Naruto here.

It's not the same...I don't think that snakes would show Kabuto how to use frog katas for example. And really this whole sage frog and sage snake gives me new reason why Frogs in Narutoverse seem to hate snakes.

[mattiaildivino]

Guys, where is the chapter?? Mangareader doesn't upload it...

[ninjabot]

Anyone else realize that if Taka weren't limited by plot to stay bit characters they'd be the strongest ninja cell in the entire god damn manga?

Karin with massive chakra reserves and longevity from her Uzumaki heritage aswell as sealing techniques along with the ability to heal people. Suigetsu, unharmable thanks to liquifying his body. Potentially gaining all the swords of the 7 swordsman of the mist, including Samehada making him nearly unstoppable. Juugo mastering the natural energy he naturally absorbs so that he can use it to strengthen himself to Sage levels all the time. And Sasuke with an EMS and eventually a Rinnegan.

Christ.

[Kyuunaru]

Still can't imagine by now what Kabuto can do, if Sasuke starts spamming black flames.

[jaymizzo]

Right, but he obviously was pursuing Ryuichidou in addition to pursuing Sasuke's eyes. He wanted to learn all ninjutsu, he stated once. And Sage Mode isn't something you can aquire just from having a Sharingan.

Unless Itachi too has the body requirement to learn Sage Mode, then the reason as to why Oro was after them still stands as "The Eyes".

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Guys, where is the chapter?? Mangareader doesn't upload it...

Here (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/) you go

[Adv2011]

Guys, where is the chapter?? Mangareader doesn't upload it...

here: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/

[HaouLelouch]

Dragons cant shed their skin.

Amaterasu time L.

[Rikudou King]

I am loving the bromance between Itachi and Sasuke. Nice to see Sasuke making use of his intelligence and previous experience. And the double Susanoo was great. So too was the appearance of the Snake Sage.

[Mack]

It's not the same...I don't think that snakes would show Kabuto how to use frog katas for example. And really this whole sage frog and sage snake gives me new reason why Frogs in Narutoverse seem to hate snakes.

I bet it will have some similarities. Getting power of nature, sound same to me. Yes, jutsus and some power will probably be special for every form of sage-mode, but i bet the basic will be the same.

Because we have seen everybody in this manga was having troubles fighting sage-mode, i think brothers are finally going to find a way how to defeat it.

[ricardDvs]

oh gosh... I always thought there could be a civilization behind snakes and slugs like there's with the frogs... This sennin ode looks damn awesome. Kabuto wil cause some damage thats for sure.

[Masterpice]

Right, but he obviously was pursuing Ryuichidou in addition to pursuing Sasuke's eyes. He wanted to learn all ninjutsu, he stated once. And Sage Mode isn't something you can aquire just from having a Sharingan.

Really don't overthink this...he really wanted only sharingan...and still I think that every body of Orochimaru's would be to weak because of his technique...it's not like he changed it every 3 year because he wanted to. Most of all we can't think that because right now Kishi adds a lot of crap all the time...like he wouldn't even remember what he did in the past...if this manga will end soon...at least shippuuden and then we will get next series[I really want to see Naruto Hokage] I wouldn't be surprised if he would add another upgraded doujutsu...like in the first part sharingan was just cool technique which everyone believed is inferior to Byakugan and now in shippuuden it's all about sharingan.

[Thoughtful1]

Y'know, I never imagined Itachi as the joking kind. He's shown himself to be rather sarcastic and funny. Unexpected and nice.

[chilibun]

And if Orochimaru was looking for the perfect body to use Ryuichidou, does that mean Sasuke could have potentially gained it thanks to being the "perfect host" as he dubbed him?


Sasuke probably wasn't the only one who could have gained it. Oro originally wanted Kimmi to be his host until he got sick. I'm thinking anybody with full control of their cursed seal may be capable of learning the snake sage mode. The cursed seal was derived from Juugo's powers and gave its users similar abilities. Juugo powers came from his clan's natural ability to absorb natural energy, so anybody with full control of the cursed seal may be able to do the same as well.

[Masterpice]

oh gosh... I always thought there could be a civilization behind snakes and slugs like there's with the frogs... This sennin ode looks damn awesome. Kabuto wil cause some damage thats for sure.

Yeah he will be awesome for few chapters like Danzou was he will pull of some crazy jutsus and then he will be defeated by usual genjutsu or Sasuke's chidori. Where's Sasuke there you know someone cool and more interesting than him will die.

[Naruto2011]

This chapter was a very fun and revealing read. We now see why Hugo Isis intuned with nature and why he can communicate with animals. If taka were to reach their fullest potential they are a huge threat to the ninja world. Itachi seems worried which is big if he's ern worried, I think sasuke will pull out the victory in this fight though with a new EMS jutsu. This chapter is making itch for what in the world did suigetsu find

[HaouLelouch]

Sasuke will somehow gain Kabuto's DNA, gaining the snake sage mode and the Rinnegan.

[ninjabot]

Really don't overthink this...he really wanted only sharingan...and still I think that every body of Orochimaru's would be to weak because of his technique...it's not like he changed it every 3 year because he wanted to. Most of all we can't think that because right now Kishi adds a lot of crap all the time...like he wouldn't even remember what he did in the past...if this manga will end soon...at least shippuuden and then we will get next series[I really want to see Naruto Hokage] I wouldn't be surprised if he would add another upgraded doujutsu...like in the first part sharingan was just cool technique which everyone believed is inferior to Byakugan and now in shippuuden it's all about sharingan.


Nope. It's stated in the databook that if the body was "perfect", then Orochimaru can live in it for an entire lifetime. Not just 3 years. And he also claimed Sasuke had said body. And once again, one needs an Uchiha body to make complete use of the Sharingan. He needed to take Sasuke's body inorder to use his Sharingan to it's fullest potential.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Nope. It's stated in the databook that if the body was "perfect", then Orochimaru can live in it for an entire lifetime. Not just 3 years. And he also claimed Sasuke had said body. And once again, one needs an Uchiha body to make complete use of the Sharingan. He needed to take Sasuke's body inorder to use his Sharingan to it's fullest potential.

Since he probably wanted to awaken the Rin'negan, he would've engraved Hashirama's cells into Sasuke's body, thus having both the perfect eyes and body.
That way he could've become able to enter Sage Mode imho

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Actually the thing is that Nagato achieved Rinnegan by himself. There was noone who gave him any kind of Uchiha power... So it isn't 100% that Uzumaki aren't some sort of combo of Senju and Uchiha.
At least we should wait for further explanation on Kishi's part.

[HaouLelouch]

Lol I guess this is what will happen.

Kabuto is defeated, he then tries to possess Sasuke in the same way Orochimaru tried, thinking he'd succeed as he has far surpassed Orochimaru.

But sharingan turns out to be too much for him, Sasuke absorbs Kabuto, conveniently gaining the snake sage mode and the Uzumaki DNA needed to activate his Rinnegan. Sasuke can then face the powered up Naruto.

[Masterpice]

So if Juugo changes into monster killer because of this snake snage mode than it looks like he is the weakest sage ever....You change because of the natural energy the same like with our usual frog sage mode...so i wonder if the rules will be the same...less your appearance change you're stronger and better in using natural energy. Juugo was crap in it so he changed a lot and he lost his mind. Or maybe it's side effect...like with frog sage mode you can change into stone frog if you're not carefull and with this snake sage mode you lose your mind.

[daman246]

Yep looks like i was right Karin is indeed a Uzamaki, probably the last uzamaki Woman alive.
Always wanted her and naruto to end up together for some odd reason

[LnDRash]

Kishi doesn't pull as much random crap as some people seem to think... considering how Juugo was communicating with wild animals from the get go.

When he's calm he's even a popular resting place fo birds, just like when Naruto is meditating in Sennin mode. Face it guys, this is not an ass-pull, this was planned by Kishi for quite some time.

[ninjabot]

Sasuke probably wasn't the only one who could have gained it. Oro originally wanted Kimmi to be his host until he got sick. I'm thinking anybody with full control of their cursed seal may be capable of learning the snake sage mode. The cursed seal was derived from Juugo's powers and gave its users similar abilities. Juugo powers came from his clan's natural ability to absorb natural energy, so anybody with full control of the cursed seal may be able to do the same as well.

Oh, I agree. Kimmimaro was Orochimaru's original first choice for a new body until his illness took hold. THough it's likely he wanted Sage Mode inorder to give him the edge needed to beat Itachi back before he knew about Sasuke.

[Dutchy]

Didn't see that coming - bravo Kishi! Haha, Sasuke just can't seem to get away from those damn Uzumaki people. Now I'm just looking forward to seeing dragon sage genjutsu.

[chilibun]

Actually the thing is that Nagato achieved Rinnegan by himself. There was noone who gave him any kind of Uchiha power... So it isn't 100% that Uzumaki aren't some sort of combo of Senju and Uchiha.
At least we should wait for further explanation on Kishi's part.

Tobi said he gave Nagato those eyes, and its assumed by many that his Rinnegans were originally Madara's eyes.

[NAM61]

kabuto seems to have the same sensing ability as naruto that is why he was able to dodge the arrow. nice i want a sage battle someday naruto vs kabuto

[Masterpice]

Lol I guess this is what will happen.

Kabuto is defeated, he then tries to possess Sasuke in the same way Orochimaru tried, thinking he'd succeed as he has far surpassed Orochimaru.

But sharingan turns out to be too much for him, Sasuke absorbs Kabuto, conveniently gaining the snake sage mode and the Uzumaki DNA needed to activate his Rinnegan. Sasuke can then face the powered up Naruto.

Well I see Kishi's latest backward ways of doing stuff in your theory so I guess it's possible...I hope it won't happen BTW.

[NAM61]

and karin an uzumaki i thought this may maybe true, but i thought i was wrong. at least we know naruto has one clan member alive

[Plyr88]

Interesting. I don't think Kabuto loses to these two. Kabuto said earlier he wanted to fight Naruto and Naruto said he wanted to fight Kabuto. That kind of declaration is usually carried out in this manga. Furthermore, it'd be interesting to see a Sage vs Sage fight.

[ninjabot]

Actually the thing is that Nagato achieved Rinnegan by himself. There was noone who gave him any kind of Uchiha power... So it isn't 100% that Uzumaki aren't some sort of combo of Senju and Uchiha.
At least we should wait for further explanation on Kishi's part.

Tobi actually said he gave Nagato his Rinnegan. I don't know how literal we are to take that, but we have to atleast acknowledge that he had some hand in him gaining it. Nagato didn't get it on his own.

[badluckartist]

Why do people from Konoha never seem to know about the Uzumaki and their "trademark red hair"? WHY DON'T THEY HAVE DNA TESTING IN THIS MANGA ABOUT MAGIC NINJA GENETICISTS. Now while everyone is off enjoying being right about Karin, I'm going to go dig up my comprehensive theory about Orochimaru being a failed snake sage. I totally wrote about this like 2 years ago.

[Naruto2011]

Kishi doesn't pull as much random crap as some people seem to think... considering how Juugo was communicating with wild animals from the get go.

When he's calm he's even a popular resting place fo birds, just like when Naruto is meditating in Sennin mode. Face it guys, this is not an ass-pull, this was planned by Kishi for quite some time.

Exactly I said the same thing, this was very well played out by kishi, very interesting direction

[Thoughtful1]

Lol I guess this is what will happen.

Kabuto is defeated, he then tries to possess Sasuke in the same way Orochimaru tried, thinking he'd succeed as he has far surpassed Orochimaru.

But sharingan turns out to be too much for him, Sasuke absorbs Kabuto, conveniently gaining the snake sage mode and the Uzumaki DNA needed to activate his Rinnegan. Sasuke can then face the powered up Naruto.

Does Kabuto have Karin's DNA or did he just study her clan's techniques?

[ricardDvs]

wait, whats shikkotsurin?

[mattiaildivino]

Epic chapter! How happy I am that karin is revealed to be an uzumaki!!! Although you disagree, I like reading about Hawk :p

[jaymizzo]

Sasuke will somehow gain Kabuto's DNA, gaining the snake sage mode and the Rinnegan.

That would be dumb. Sage mode requires training, Sasuke doesnt have that training or understanding. Him gaining it from simply having Kabutos DNA would be lazy writing.

And I dont think anyone wants Sasuke gaining the Snake mode. He has hawks, let him be with his hawks.

[Hauradrims3]

Wow, Kabuto left himself wide open to genjutsu at the end. Should be over next chapter.

[Masterpice]

This whole Sasuke, Itachi vs. Kabuto will delay Sasuke's and Naruto's reunion and fight...after every fight Sasuke is completely exhausted and needs weeks to recuperate. I guess there's an option taht Kabuto will run away if he will be in trouble...Hozuki clan technique seem really good for this. So pretty much Kabuto is Sage with super healing ability and power to change into water [or something like that] at will... I really don't want him to loose to new dynamic duo. Just be a man turn Edo tensei off kick sasuke and run Kabuto...

[NAM61]

wait, whats shikkotsurin?

that is the slugs equivalent of frog mountain

[Masterpice]

Wow, Kabuto left himself wide open to genjutsu at the end. Should be over next chapter.

Well I guess spoilers were wrong...he didn't cover himself to run away from genjutsu he just did it cause he wanted to enter his sage mode...I hope he found some way to beat genjutsu...Daznou died because of genjutsu and I think it's enough.

[Gats]

Ahahahahahaha !
Oh man. Kabuto and Sasuke are so cocky.
Kabuto didn't even bother to summon Madara, interesting, I hope it doesn't mean he is too arrogant now.

It reminds me Sasuke's speech with Orochimaru, when he said that Oro is a snake that wanted to be a Hawk...now we have Kabuto who is trolling Sasuke : "A Hawk ? Screw you, I can be a Dragon".

Kabuto has a special body in the first place. His ability to regen makes him more sensitive to the snake power imo.

[xXan]

That would be dumb. Sage mode requires training, Sasuke doesnt have that training or understanding. Him gaining it from simply having Kabutos DNA would be lazy writing.

And I dont think anyone wants Sasuke gaining the Snake mode. He has hawks, let him be with his hawks.

You also need a good chakra supply on JMan/Naruto level aparently... Kabuto also APARANTLY and out of the blue has insane chakra supply on JMan/Naruto level.. Bleah...

If you ask me Kishi is running out of ideas on jutsus, he had to give Kabuto Naruto's and JMan's SM but aparently he is better at is or something like that... As i said "bleah"...

[Gats]

So what site has the manga up?

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/38276-Naruto-Old-Spoiler-Archive?p=2826902&viewfull=1#post2826902

[Masterpice]

I wonder if this chapter is some kind of spoiler to what is going to happen next during kages vs. Madara...Will tsunade change into slug sage? :P

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I liked it better when J-man was the only one able to have sage mode...frogs were special that way and now it's all gone...I guess sooner or later Sasuke will have hawk sage mode.

[Razh]

This was a nice chapter. Completely unexpected, but then there was no mention of Ryuchidou or Shikkotsurin (snail sage?) ever in the story before. I really hope Kabuto doesn't finish his potential here in this cave. That would really suck. I mean dragon sage man! Give him something more to do!

Don't get why he still needs those glasses, specially since he's in a sage mode, with heightened senses :/

[Plyr88]

Remember back in the first arc when Kakashi said it's dangerous to have the body of your village stolen from an outsider? Well this is why. Experts like Kabuto can study them and work on gaining their abilities.


http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/38276-Naruto-Old-Spoiler-Archive?p=2826902&viewfull=1#post2826902

Thank you

[ninjabot]

I wonder if this chapter is some kind of spoiler to what is going to happen next during kages vs. Madara...Will tsunade change into slug sage? :P

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I liked it better when J-man was the only one able to have sage mode...frogs were special that way and now it's all gone...I guess sooner or later Sasuke will have hawk sage mode.


It always seemed hokey that only one type of animal was capable of sensing natural energy anyway. You'd expect the smarter animals in the animal kingdom to perform a feat like that. Infact, didn't the databook state something about animals naturally being able to sense energy? If that's the case then even before Sage Mode existed, every animal pact was capable of it.

[xXan]

I wonder if this chapter is some kind of spoiler to what is going to happen next during kages vs. Madara...Will tsunade change into slug sage? :P

---------- Post added at 05:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 AM ----------

I liked it better when J-man was the only one able to have sage mode...frogs were special that way and now it's all gone...I guess sooner or later Sasuke will have hawk sage mode.

I only hope Frog SM is diferent then Snake SM. Like SM gives you insane stg, durability and snakes ... well dragon mode? I really hope they are not the same damn thing but Kabuto takes Naruto SM to level 2(dragon mode)... That would be BULLSHIT !

[piscesking]

I think in the end we will get this "Kabuto in front of these eyes all your jutsus are useless" :D

[Gats]

Oh, yeah, and Itachi, for once, seems really impressed and is probably worrying a bit. Which means thatn hopefully, we'll have a good show from Kabuto.

Sasuke is just sparkling in his ignorance, once again.

[Masterpice]

I guess it's obvious now...Kishi promotes animal smoking...sooner or later we will get the news...."Gamabunta and white snake Sage died cause lung cancer".

[Smokes]

I only hope Frog SM is diferent then Snake SM. Like SM gives you insane stg, durability and snakes ... well dragon mode? I really hope they are not the same damn thing but Kabuto takes Naruto SM to level 2(dragon mode)... That would be BULLSHIT !

Naw. That would just be more typical Kishi kicking Naruto in the nuts.

[Masterpice]

This was a nice chapter. Completely unexpected, but then there was no mention of Ryuchidou or Shikkotsurin (snail sage?) ever in the story before. I really hope Kabuto doesn't finish his potential here in this cave. That would really suck. I mean dragon sage man! Give him something more to do!

Don't get why he still needs those glasses, specially since he's in a sage mode, with heightened senses :/

He's the hipster that's why.

[chilibun]

I only hope Frog SM is diferent then Snake SM. Like SM gives you insane stg, durability and snakes ... well dragon mode? I really hope they are not the same damn thing but Kabuto takes Naruto SM to level 2(dragon mode)... That would be BULLSHIT !

Well, from what I can tell right now, they share very similar abilities (like the heightened senses) but uses the natural energy differently. It seems like the snake sage mode focuses on using the natural energy to strengthen and change its physical abilities while the frog sage mode uses the natural energy to strengthen your base chakra. But who really knows at this point. We'll get some more answers next chapter I guess.

[Plyr88]

lol it's so funny that before this, so many posters thought Kabuto was going to turn out to be a weaker Orochimaru and now we see his makes Orochimaru look like garbage. Naruto became a full sage while Jiraiya couldn't master it. Orochimaru couldn't master it, either but Kabuto has mastered his Sage mode.

I must admit I'm even more impressed that Kabuto put in all this hard work to improve himself. It's one thing to study the bodies of others to gain their abilities (which is extremely impressive from a medical jutsu standpoint) but to be able to train and become a Sage is another thing entirely. Kabuto shows us that he has/had a lot of potential...even more than Orochimaru, the "genius."

So ignoring Edo Tensei, Kabuto has:

-Top-level medical jutsu
-Liquifying abilities
-Extraordinary sensing abilities
-Upgraded healing abilities
-Sage Mode
-"That" jutsu

Good luck, Uchiha brothers LOL

[Masterpice]

Oh, yeah, and Itachi, for once, seems really impressed and is probably worrying a bit. Which means thatn hopefully, we'll have a good show from Kabuto.

Sasuke is just sparkling in his ignorance, once again.

I don't care about the show...I want him to survive...he can even cry a bit. I want Naruto to finally beat someone important without talk no jutsu at the end...I really thought back in the day that bringing Kabutomaru to this world Kishi will give Naruto chance to beat someone like orochimaru casue Sasuke took care of the original...and now...Hawk again will kill the snake....dragon....wait that's just impossible.

[Franklyn D. Kieran]

Itachi's Dr Snakes comment made my day.

Naruto is starting to get a lot more interesting recently! I suppose it was a given that Karin was an Uzumaki, I wonder how this'll play out when Naruto discovers this... Does she even know herself? Haha.

And it's actually awesome that Kishimoto decided to show us another Sage mode! I didn't think of it before but know I realize that the Frog sages couldn't be the only ones. I'm really looking forward to see Kabuto's new techniques in this mode. This battle should be an interesting one.

[Masterpice]

Well, from what I can tell right now, they share very similar abilities (like the heightened senses) but uses the natural energy differently. It seems like the snake sage mode focuses on using the natural energy to strengthen and change its physical abilities while the frog sage mode uses the natural energy to strengthen your base chakra. But who really knows at this point. We'll get some more answers next chapter I guess.

Well frogs natural energy gave Naruto enormous strenght, durability and this whole I'm almost Indestructible thing...when Naruto fall of this mountain. So I guess Natural energy will give them the same boost but the usage of this natural energy will be different...maybe some dragon katas and we all know that Kabuto is a smart fella so it's possible that he would spend some time and learn some sage jutsus and not like Naruto...upgrade your rasengan, rasenshuriken, go fight with pein, forget about sage mode and talk with QB about friendship.

[ninjabot]

So ignoring Edo Tensei, Kabuto has:


Again, I'm pleasantly surprised by the outcome of this chapter. But to be fair, Kabuto did exactly what I expected him to do: postpone his death with defenses he prepared before the fight by stealing them from other ninja. Hoozuki clan liquification and Karin's regenerative abilities in addition to the regenerative abilities gained from Orochimaru's DNA. I don't think it's fair to claim that Madara would be nothing without Hashirama's stolen DNA and then praise Kabuto for being impressive because of Suigetsu, Karin, and Orochimaru's stolen DNA. Can't condemn one as a thief and not the other.

That said, I gotta see some offensive capabilities before believing he's not about to get raped something fierce.

[Uchiha_Blood]

I believe Naruto's sage mode and Kabuto's sage mode to be different, yet to have common properties:
the sensing ability for one, and the strenghtening of all of the user's jutsu. I believe the super-strenght to be toads only, the response to the whole dragon-mode of Kabuto

[gh0un]

So Kabuto figured out sage mode, secret hozuki clan technique, techniques of Uzumaki clan which is long gone so it's pretty much secret technique too and all of this by himself...and yet he still didn't find anything to help him fight sharingan genjutsu...that's just lame.


Infact he found several things that help him against sharingan genjutsu.
First he hided under his hood and used his snakes to check the surroundings for him.
One would assume that you can cast a genjutsu on them with sharingan and thus counter that counter measure, but actually you cant.

The chapter specifically stated that the snakes can sense their surroundings by temperature and by smell, by passing that smell through their mouth.
Basically the chapter explained perfectly why they cant put kabuto in a genjutsu, nor his snakes.

Further more though, he mastered the sage mode version of the white snake.
The chapter specifically states that his perceptual ability was increased a huge amount (just like naruto´s, who was able to sense that kakashi was dead miles away during the pain invasion).
You can clearly see in this chapter that he is able to dodge sasuke´s arrow without even looking at it, since at that point his body isnt materialized yet (he is still coming out of the snakes mouth).

That clearly tells us that he doesnt need to use his eyes at all in order to see.
He has snakes, and he has the sage mode. He has the perfect two counters against visual genjutsu abilities.

[Gats]

Does someone know what Hakugeki means ? (Sage jutsu by Kabuto)

[xXan]

I wonder if Kabuto "got hit in head with stick" to don't transform into a snake statue lol... Also who belives he jumped in the oil pot to?

[sarutobi_sensei]

I fucking knew it! I knew it all along and I've said it countless times! Karin is from the Uzumaki Clan! God it feels good to be right.

[gh0un]

Does someone know what Hakugeki means ? (Sage jutsu by Kabuto)

It means something like close range attack.

[chilibun]

Well frogs natural energy gave Naruto enormous strenght, durability and this whole I'm almost Indestructible thing...when Naruto fall of this mountain.

I didn't say that's all they used the natural energy for, but that its usage is distributed differently. Snake sage mode seems to provide more physical enhancements to the point of mutations such as dragon horns. It seems to have some of Juugo's body mutation abilities. Also, sage mode provided enhanced durability but it is far from indestructible. I don't recall anybody having problems injuring a sage.

[Masterpice]

I like how Itachi says all the time "I was right" , "I was right indeed" but he won't tell what he was right about. :P

- I was right, I was right indeed...those sunglasses are last year model.

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http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c579/19.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c477/2.html

Yeah an inevitable end is coming...Danzou also had mysterious power just before he died.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Seems like Kabuto is more dangerous than we thought. Finding the Riouchidou or whatever it's called seems to be very good from Itachi's reaction.

So Kabuto has his own sage mode now? Damn.

[Plyr88]

Again, I'm pleasantly surprised by the outcome of this chapter. But to be fair, Kabuto did exactly what I expected him to do: postpone his death with defenses he prepared before the fight by stealing them from other ninja. Hoozuki clan liquification and Karin's regenerative abilities in addition to the regenerative abilities gained from Orochimaru's DNA. I don't think it's fair to claim that Madara would be nothing without Hashirama's stolen DNA and then praise Kabuto for being impressive because of Suigetsu, Karin, and Orochimaru's stolen DNA. Can't condemn one as a thief and not the other.

That said, I gotta see some offensive capabilities before believing he's not about to get raped something fierce.

lol I never made that comment about Madara

However, you cannot steal Sage Mode

[Ryuma00]

Can somebody tell me when was Itachis susanoo upgraded from 3 hands
like is shown here:
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-previews/17176
to 4 like is show here
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-previews/17175

[Franklyn D. Kieran]

I fucking knew it! I knew it all along and I've said it countless times! Karin is from the Uzumaki Clan! God it feels good to be right.

Congratulations! Haha, great feeling right, I felt the same when I said Naruto's mom was a Jinchuriki before him and everybody argued against me. But look what happened! Haha.

I'm really looking forward to Naruto figuring this out, would he treat her like a sister figure or what? He deserves to know he still has some kind of family left after all he has been through. That's what I think anyway :)

But about the whole Kabuto thing, I think it'd be weird if he went through the exact same training methods as Naruto, hopefully it was something different, also how does he collect his Natural energy in the first place? Naruto has to stay still, but for the Dragon Sage mode, does Kabuto do something completely different?

what do you guys think?

[Chojin]

Maybe Sasuke will activate the rinnegan midfight. Some indication..Suigetsu said that Karin did something to Sasuke so..maybe she gave a portion of DNA to him back in the day. Additionally Sasuke has been absorbing chakra from Karin for a while..

[ForMotherRussia]

Maybe Sasuke will activate the rinnegan midfight. Some indication..Suigetsu said that Karin did something to Sasuke so..maybe she gave a portion of DNA to him back in the day. Additionally Sasuke has been absorbing chakra from Karin for a while..

Sasuke was biting Karin more than once now, he's gotta have some of her dna left in his mouth fo sure.

[Plyr88]

Kishi pretty much told us Kabuto is going to fight Naruto:

-He challenged Naruto before the Deidara-Sasuke fight and Naruto accepted
-Both have Sage Mode from rivaling animal groups (at least I think they're rivaling)

So yea, Kabuto isn't going to die here. Say "bye" to Itachi. I wonder what he'll do with Sasuke. Whatever he does, I hope he doesn't take the Sharingan. We have enough Sharingan users running around.

[ninjabot]

lol I never made that comment about Madara

However, you cannot steal Sage Mode

Oh, I know you didn't. I just sequed into that since it was a big part of last discussion thread's... discussion. And while I agree about not being able to steal Sage Mode, you're gonna find out quickly that Naruto and Jiraiya fans disagree with this wholeheartedly. You saw what happened when they found out that someone other than Minato could use Hiraishin (and that that someone else wasn't Naruto made it worse).

My point about Kabuto is that I expected his survival in this fight to be a mixture of Sasuke and Itachi holding back, Kabuto's regenerative properties, and some sort of other ability/trap/tool that prevents him from actually getting into direct combat with them. I was partially right, with the liquification. And the fact that from the get go he's basically been... well, hiding. But the reveal of Sage Mode should give him the muscle to actually go toe to toe with a holding back Sasuke and Itachi.

[provkitir]

But about the whole Kabuto thing, I think it'd be weird if he went through the exact same training methods as Naruto, hopefully it was something different, also how does he collect his Natural energy in the first place? Naruto has to stay still, but for the Dragon Sage mode, does Kabuto do something completely different?


maybe he stayed still inside the snake to gather sage chakra

[Smokes]

This was a nice chapter. Completely unexpected, but then there was no mention of Ryuchidou or Shikkotsurin (snail sage?) ever in the story before. I really hope Kabuto doesn't finish his potential here in this cave. That would really suck. I mean dragon sage man! Give him something more to do!

Don't get why he still needs those glasses, specially since he's in a sage mode, with heightened senses :/

Those glasses look so out of place now. He's turning into a dragon and he's still wearing those things. He might as well be wearing a monocle.

I think in the end he'll run off. It would be a complete surprise if he gets forced to leave because Madara gets himself in trouble showing off and nearly gets sealed. That megalomaniac is about 2 chapters away from putting on a blind fold and tying one hand behind his back to show how great he is.

[Franklyn D. Kieran]

maybe he stayed still inside the snake to gather sage chakra

Yeah, that's the most likely possibility. But I'm hoping it'd be something different so it's not all too similar to Naruto's :)

[Gats]

Kishi pretty much told us Kabuto is going to fight Naruto:

-He challenged Naruto before the Deidara-Sasuke fight and Naruto accepted
-Both have Sage Mode from rivaling animal groups (at least I think they're rivaling)

So yea, Kabuto isn't going to die here. Say "bye" to Itachi. I wonder what he'll do with Sasuke. Whatever he does, I hope he doesn't take the Sharingan. We have enough Sharingan users running around.

That's only what Kabuto wants. It doesn't mean it will happen. Even if I would be super happy to see that.

By the way, awesome news ! Kishi is making his first Naruto's movie, check it out and discuss there (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/75887-Naruto-the-Movie-Road-to-Ninja-announced) !
This kind of stuff can be canon.

[narutotheory]

You guys need to put 2 and 2 together here.

- All animals kingdoms have their own sage mode.
Example: The Sage King of Apes: SON GOKU
Example: THE TOAD SAGES: JARAIYA, and NARUTO

[NinjaStar]

F*** HAWKS!!! Sasuke needs to get a snake err..Dragon contract. I would love for Sasuke to absorb kabuto but i feel like that would make him too hax. Like if he had ems, sage mode, and then the rinnegan i feel like he would be too much for naruto to handle. I can't tell if Kabuto is immune to genjutsu because thats one of sage modes powers, because the snakes are breaking him out of it, or because he isn't planning on looking into their eyes?

Anyways this was a great chapter. Much better than the last few IMO

[Captain Sicarius]

This week's chapter was EPIC, no more no less.

So Orochimaru was trying to get sage mode, while Jiraiya had an incomplete version, fine, but I wonder now if Kabuto's version is a complete version like Naruto is, plus everything leads to believe that Kabuto became a bad ass villain enough to NOT die in this fight.

So hmm, Kabuto used Juugo's ability to become Sage? it wasn't by skill like Naruto then?
Kabuto can perceive Susanoo arrows easily in Sage Mode, there it goes now for all people who said Naruto would get bodied by this.


so

Ryuchidou = Snakes
Shikkotsurin = Slugs or Turtles? Slugs seem more likely
Myoubokuzan = Toads

I really didn't like the translation to english, I'm almost sure it's deeper that what I have read, I'm going to wait for another translations arround.

[Kage Level]

You also need a good chakra supply on JMan/Naruto level aparently... Kabuto also APARANTLY and out of the blue has insane chakra supply on JMan/Naruto level.. Bleah...

If you ask me Kishi is running out of ideas on jutsus, he had to give Kabuto Naruto's and JMan's SM but aparently he is better at is or something like that... As i said "bleah"...

uh...hence the whole study into the Uzumaki clan (Karin), Suigetsu, and Juugo's clans. Uzumaki (vast vitality), Suigetsu and Juugo for absorbing natural energy better.

Sheesh

[donyusufahmed]

lol did kishi just troll the toad sage fans?! As someone mentioned earlier, since kabuto has just confirmed that Karin is an uzamaki, and uzamaki's being related to the senju...and we know that Karin did something to sasuke. Maybe he will awaken the first son eye pretty soon not the reinngan. So his perceputal abilities just cancelled out the sharingan's ability to predict the future. So in a way, sasuke is fighting karin, juugo and suigestu those guys seem to be pretty strong together. I hope Juugo will also learn to go Dragon!!

Maybe Karin has also unlocked Tsunade's 5th tech (which i might add sounds like a bunch of crap) but i doubt it since she took an arrow to the heart :derp and almost died.

Also Sasuke fighting Kabuto now will give him A TON of experience against Sage mode Naruto.

[TeamSeven]

Of all the things to find interesting in this chapter .. for me it was the confirmation of the hair =Uzumaki thing.

I've long thought that Gaaras mother was probably Uzumaki, hence Gaara as well. The admission of Karin means it doesnt have to be purely red hair either (hers is more magenta) - it can be a form of red.

Get ready fanboys, because that means Sakura is most likely Uzumaki in some fashion.

Rather than being erased, it certainly looks like the Uzumaki clan dispersed across other nations. I just get this feeling this will be a big story element somehow in the future.

[NinjaStar]

Maybe Sakura learning slut slug mode will be how she becomes relevant again and her way of surpassing Tsunade.

[ArtOfLife]

yet again I was left dumbfounded. NEVER expected this to happen. Snake or better dragon sage mode.

Sasuke is such a knowbetter these days. Making false assumptions all the time because he thinks he knows it all.
He aint that analysing and anticipating person anymore. Guess seasons really do change.

[Plyr88]

Re-reading, it doesn't seem like Kabuto merely stole the abilities from the others:

With Karin and Suigetsu, he studied them, came up with a way to modify his body to take on these abilities then...took it to the next level
---He's using the liquifying technique on a much wider scale and we have yet to see how far he's taken Karin's abilities

With Juugo, he said the only way to obtain that ability was to go train with the White Snake Sage, which he did. Juugo is a partial Sage. So it's not so much he stole and put their DNA in his body, but did extensive research to see how their abilities worked. That's where his high-level medical expertise comes into play.

[toussaintac]

So, Kabuto has Karin's powers, Juugo's (I guess that's the clan name unless Jyugo means something different), Suigetsu's, and orochimaru's. On top of that, it seems he has perfected the Sage training at Ryuchidou mountain and is now a dragon and not a snake. Or was it that he didn't master it? I'm not sure. Translations are confusing. Also, I'm interested in learning what other sage place was. the Bone one. What ability would that be for?

[narutotheory]

Senpou – Hakugeki no Jutsu ( Sage Arts – White Aggravation )

http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/579/18

[Dutchy]

Lets get Killer Bee on the job, I'm sure he'd love to the chance to smash this Taka hybrid.

[toussaintac]

Senpou – Hakugeki no Jutsu ( Sage Arts – White Aggravation )

It's be nice if they put all the translations in their for new techniques. They pick and choose when they do it most of the time.

[TeamSeven]

Kabuto stealing abilities from others through dna manipulation shouldnt be a surprise ... it is the theme of Shippuden so far.

Madara was doing it. Oro was doing it. Danzo was doing it. Tobi is doing it.

The big theme of late is all these ppl trying to re-create the 6 path sage's powers through somewhat artificial means. Heck, Yamato was created purely through dna manipulation.

The struggle for the sages legacy started with the 2 brothers, and has continued on in various forms since. It will probably only be resolved when the two brothers finally find peace together (the two brothers now being represented by Sasuke and Naruto of course).

[toussaintac]

Well, I'm sure Naruto has the ability to train at all three of these places. However, I wonder if we'll be shown the other one and what power and who may have trained there.

[narutotheory]

Whats the worst part about Kabuto knowing the Sage Arts?

- HE DOESNT HAVE TO STAY STILL TO GATHER NATURE CHAKRA LIKE NARUTO DOES, HE HAS JUUGO'S CELLS FOR THAT.

Good job Kishi.

[toussaintac]

Whats the worst part about Kabuto knowing the Sage Arts?

- HE DOESNT HAVE TO STAY STILL TO GATHER NATURE CHAKRA LIKE NARUTO DOES, HE HAS JUUGO'S CELLS FOR THAT.

Good job Kishi.

Plus he can liquify himself so you really can't hurt him while he uses his cells to draw it in the natural energy.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Whats the worst part about Kabuto knowing the Sage Arts?

- HE DOESNT HAVE TO STAY STILL TO GATHER NATURE CHAKRA LIKE NARUTO DOES, HE HAS JUUGO'S CELLS FOR THAT.

Good job Kishi.

Imho I believe the snakes gather nature chakra while he moves, like Jiraiya did with Ma and Pa.
You see it with the snakes going bigger and stronger

[toussaintac]

I'm glad Kishi showed how strong Kabuto has gotten off the bat. Now people will stop talking about how Itachi and Sasuke would beat him senseless. People should've known that Kabuto juiced himself up. Now, we can just watch how the fight unfolds and witness new abilities.

[HaiSuShi]

My reactions reading the chapter:

-Dr. Snake:XD

-Double Susanoo:gar

-Karin being uzumaki:wtf

-Kabuto waving his finger after dodging the arrow:rofl

-Snake Sage mode:wtf:wtf:wtf

One of the best chapters ever.

The confirmation of not only frogs, but also snakes (and probaly Slugs) having sage mode is also intriguing.

[SupremeMod]

Kishi pretty much told us Kabuto is going to fight Naruto:

-He challenged Naruto before the Deidara-Sasuke fight and Naruto accepted
-Both have Sage Mode from rivaling animal groups (at least I think they're rivaling)

So yea, Kabuto isn't going to die here. Say "bye" to Itachi. I wonder what he'll do with Sasuke. Whatever he does, I hope he doesn't take the Sharingan. We have enough Sharingan users running around.This would be the best direction for the manga.

Sadly, I don't see Kishi allowing the Uchiha brothers to lose.

[Plyr88]

Big question:

Can Amaterasu burn someone who can liquify? :P

[jalix]

All I have to say is... "Let the Shikkotsurin Debate Begin!!" :D

Where to start... so there is a third, and it could be linked to anyone thanks to what I bet was a suspect translation. Senju or even Tobi (fancy wood), Kagura (bone)... the humid part even has me thinking of slugs. lol But all three places seem directly linked to nature and life force. Back in the Naruto 574 Discussion / 575 Predictions thread, there was someone hell-bent on saying Karin wasn't an Uzumaki and whining that "just because she has red hair it doens't mean she's an Uzumaki" even though so much evidence pointed in that direction. Will leave the person nameless. lol So it is confirmed directly from Kabuto, though it was strongly hinted by Tobi.

So will Kabuto manage to summon an actual dragon then? :D That'd be kind of cool. "Snakes may not be able to fly, Sasuke, but Dragons can."

Oh - and I did love th Dr. Snake jab Itachi told his little brother. Classic.

Now for what I didn't like...

Orochimaru was seriously nerfed. Saw it coming, and it does make some sense, but it still sucks somewhat. Also I really hope the entire battle will not be Sasuke on an offensive with Itachi telling him to wait up. That will get old real fast. And finally, it seems that going for the jugular of Susano'O so often so fast has finally diminished it's relevance to me. They are becoming to the remaining Uchiha what airbags are to automobiles.

But still the negatives don't come close to beating out the positives. Great chapter!

[Smokes]

Big question:

Can Amaterasu burn someone who can liquify? :P

Amaterasu can burn anything. It will burn fire or water....so yes.

[jalix]

Whats the worst part about Kabuto knowing the Sage Arts?

- HE DOESNT HAVE TO STAY STILL TO GATHER NATURE CHAKRA LIKE NARUTO DOES, HE HAS JUUGO'S CELLS FOR THAT.

Good job Kishi.

I think someone else mentioned it but it might be more like Jiraiya. At the time Naruto couldn't because of the fox's rejection of ma/pa frog. Jiraiya had them on his shoulder's collecting the natural energy. Naruto however surpassed Jiraiya because he didn't need them in that way to collect sage energy and he found a way to use his clones to handle the 'be still' part.

Meanwhile Kabuto's got a snake as an a$$. I think he's got it covered. :D Besides it could be something totally different as well. Kishimoto just introduced two new routes to become different types of sages so it wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Plyr88]

Amaterasu can burn anything. It will burn fire or water....so yes.

But will it work? What's stopping him from just liquifying and detaching the burning portion of his body.

So Susanoo isn't doing anything, Amaterasu won't do anything, Kabuto probably knows Tsukuyomi won't do anything. Uchihas are in trouble.

[ecoX]

Side arc coming later of the Uzumaki clan. Hope we dont find out Sasuke is a Falcon sage or a cat sage

[Smokes]

But will it work? What's stopping him from just liquifying and detaching the burning portion of his body.

So Susanoo isn't doing anything, Amaterasu won't do anything, Kabuto probably knows Tsukuyomi won't do anything. Uchihas are in trouble.

Yeah. He could detach the burning part, or jump out of his skin..... It's looking good for Kabuto but that can't last. He might get Itachi somehow but Sasuke is his kryptonite.

[badluckartist]

Well frogs natural energy gave Naruto enormous strenght, durability and this whole I'm almost Indestructible thing...when Naruto fall of this mountain. So I guess Natural energy will give them the same boost but the usage of this natural energy will be different...maybe some dragon katas and we all know that Kabuto is a smart fella so it's possible that he would spend some time and learn some sage jutsus and not like Naruto...upgrade your rasengan, rasenshuriken, go fight with pein, forget about sage mode and talk with QB about friendship.

Let's be fair here- Naruto still uses Sage Mode when it's practical. He used it in his inner world against he Kyuubi (which I doubt is a coincidence, as far as So6P powers go), against the 3rd Raikage (one of the better moments in the war IMO), and when he needed to locate the Gedo stake lodged in Son Gokuu. If Naruto had begun to develop Sage mode during his training with Jiraiya, and slowly utilized it better and better until going to Myobokuzan, this seeming 'nerfing' of Sage mode wouldn't be so apparent. Even if it is eclipsed by Kyuubi chakra mode, there isn't a conventional limit to Sage mode like there is with the cloak.

[Plyr88]

Naruto attained Frog Sage Mode...surpassed Jiraiya.
Kabuto attained Snake Sage Mode...surpassed Orochimaru.
Slug Sage Mode...

...look out, Sakura's coming for you! She's coming!

[jalix]

But will it work? What's stopping him from just liquifying and detaching the burning portion of his body.

So Susanoo isn't doing anything, Amaterasu won't do anything, Kabuto probably knows Tsukuyomi won't do anything. Uchihas are in trouble.

I think they'll figure it out but it just won't be easy. I agree. I always thought there had to be more to Kabuto... while he may have had a genjutsu trap, he knows a hell of a lot about facing Uchiha and rightfully so. I think this is maybe why Suigetsu magically stumbled upon whatever it was that he did... Sasuke may end Kabuto but Kabuto will probably end Itachi. Kabuto even started off by noting he had no intention of looking them in the eye. For once he was kind of funny to me with the whole "I'm shy" bit. Itachi & Kabuto, a couple of comedians... who would've ever thought? :)

What I'm wondering is what Kabuto's attack will be. He used to have a chakra blade with his hand that seemed in some ways lightening oriented. Will he add nature element to that/did he succeed in doing so is like Naruto? Guess we'll have to wait and see.


... kind of funny that for the most part, the red-headed girls in the manga all have names that start with K, and all have very fiery & somewhat erratic tempers. Karin, Kushina and Karui (of Kumogakure). 2 of the 3 were confirmed Uzumaki.

[Impossibility]

I hope this isn't going to start a trend of sage modes. That aside, Kabuto is quite the monster and should put up heavy resistance to the Uchiha brothers. Orochimaru's research seems to have been pretty useful. Also what's with all these legendary locales?

Is it just me or does Sasuke seem inept and rather clueless when in proximity to Itachi, almost whiny actually? I'm not normally a fan of Sasuke, but this recent change in attitude is, if possible, even more annoying.

[Plyr88]

I hope this isn't going to start a trend of sage modes. That aside, Kabuto is quite the monster and should put up heavy resistance to the Uchiha brothers. Orochimaru's research seems to have been pretty useful. Also what's with all these legendary locales?

Is it just me or does Sasuke seem inept and rather clueless when in proximity to Itachi, almost whiny actually? I'm not normally a fan of Sasuke, but this recent change in attitude is, if possible, even more annoying.

I'm thinking since these "Sage Modes" deal with nature that every animal summon group has one. It's simply animals teaching humans how to be more in-tune with nature and allowing nature is optimize their abilities. Of course, it's only the leaders of these animal groups that can teach humans to obtain this mode. However, I'm sure they seclude themselves in areas that are hard to find.

[Chojin]

It is easier for Kishimoto to write Sasuke when with Itachi than alone. Perhaps he is overdoing it. When alone, Sasuke might appear more mature on occasions. That is why he is incosistent character wise because Itachi and Sasuke have similar personalities and Itachi is obviously older so it is kinda justified.

[ninjabot]

But will it work? What's stopping him from just liquifying and detaching the burning portion of his body.

Water evaporates from intense heat. And he'd be in constant drain from both losing part of his body from Amaterasu, then turning the rest into water, then turning back to his solid form, THEN regenerating the lost flesh with Karin or Orochimaru's regenerative abilities. That's a lot of chakra burn for an attack Sasuke's shown to be able to use without breaking a sweat recently (Enton Shuriken). I'm not of the opinion that Kabuto can regenerate several dozen times without some sort of fatigue. Then again the objective is not to kill him.


So Susanoo isn't doing anything, Amaterasu won't do anything, Kabuto probably knows Tsukuyomi won't do anything. Uchihas are in trouble.

Let's not jump to conclusions. Amaterasu will still burn him. Susanoo (as shown when it ripped apart his snakes) still harms him. Itachi's Totsuka would seal him away if he didn't need to keep him around to undo Edo Tensei. And he hasn't shown a defense against Genjutsu just yet (though his Sage Mode will amplify his natural ability to escape Genjutsu). Not to mention you're basing his ability to win this fight on his ability to survive their attacks, not his ability to harm them/subdue them.

Kabuto has to show us the capacity to break through Susanoo before either of them are in any real trouble.

[biggchiefmo]

This chapter was more informative then entertaining so i just voted for good... I always wondered about being a "Sage" and if any other summoning had a special place like that where ninja learn the fighting arts of the summon. I always knew there had to be. Its nice to see how Kabuto has progressed, but I still dont see him standing much of a chance hear, he's against Itachi who cant die, and Sasuke who could be even worse than Itachi... Not to mention if Sasuke proves to be "Madara's Reincarnation" he could get the idea to try and steal Kabuto's cells in this fight and reach Rikudou levels. An Uchiha with Uzumaki DNA would achieve better or equal results to an Uchiha with Senju DNA... Dont you think?

[VashDaStampede]

I wonder if Nagato, Karin, etc know they are from the Uzumaki clan. Outside of Naruto's mom, no one has really gone into detail about the clan or even claimed it.

So now there's a snake sage mode. I wonder what that 3rd place they talked about is all about. Maybe there is a slug sage mode like someone above said. lol!

[Qaas]

Dying to see some Sunade slug sage mode!!!. But again sakura is for sure going to surpass her -.-

[Plyr88]

Water evaporates from intense heat. And he'd be in constant drain from both losing part of his body from Amaterasu, then turning the rest into water, then turning back to his solid form, THEN regenerating the lost flesh with Karin or Orochimaru's regenerative abilities. That's a lot of chakra burn for an attack Sasuke's shown to be able to use without breaking a sweat recently (Enton Shuriken).

Kabuto can detach a body part and reform using only Suigetsu's power: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c574/5.html
Suigetsu has his upper body knocked off and he just reformed from his lower body.

Furthermore, look at Orochimaru's oral rebirth. He spammed the usage of that technique often. The same technique that drained Sasuke after one use. So why can Orochimaru spam it like crazy? He's more efficient at using that technique. Now we have Kabuto who, after becoming a Sage, should be even more efficient than that so he can spam oral rebirth without nearly as much chakra usage. He also has regenerative abilities (and probably more efficient than Karin) that he'd only use if they can damage him which they likely can't due to Suigetsu's abilities (remember, Suigetsu can just reform without needed Karin's regenerating abilities).


Let's not jump to conclusions. Amaterasu will still burn him. Susanoo (as shown when it ripped apart his snakes) still harms him. Itachi's Totsuka would seal him away if he didn't need to keep him around to undo Edo Tensei. And he hasn't shown a defense against Genjutsu just yet (though his Sage Mode will amplify his natural ability to escape Genjutsu). Not to mention you're basing his ability to win this fight on his ability to survive their attacks, not his ability to harm them/subdue them.

Kabuto has to show us the capacity to break through Susanoo nefore either of them are in any real trouble.

The snakes were merely water so he wasn't hurt by Susanoo. I just explained how Amaterasu won't do much (especially since Kabuto was able to do the equivalent of tajuu kage bunshin) and now he revealed himself in his Sage form ready to attack...and Kabuto knows their abilities...he still put himself out there in front of them...and you're saying it's too early to tell if he can harm the Uchihas? Don't understand the story cues? You really think Kabuto would reveal himself if he didn't have an answer for Susanoo? =| =| =|

EDIT: Also, with all these water snakes around, Kabuto can do to Sasuke what Suigetsu did to Juugo...here have a water helmet and drown.

[decadoh]

Sasuke probably wasn't the only one who could have gained it. Oro originally wanted Kimmi to be his host until he got sick. I'm thinking anybody with full control of their cursed seal may be capable of learning the snake sage mode. The cursed seal was derived from Juugo's powers and gave its users similar abilities. Juugo powers came from his clan's natural ability to absorb natural energy, so anybody with full control of the cursed seal may be able to do the same as well.

TOad sage mode can only be learned by people with vast chakra pool, even jiraiya wasn't very succesful.Full control of the cursed seal/juugo's clan's power requirement to control sage snake mode.

With all this sage power ups, it appears that only Jiraiya was the one succesful among the three sannins to acquire this technique, albeit, not as as perfectly as Naruto.

Oro experimented on different clans. Thoroughly researching their abilties and capabilities. And kabuto gained from all this apart from learning most of oro's techniques.

Just a thought, if Jiraiya learned sage mode and Oro attempted (but failed) to learn how to perform snake sage technique, did Tsunade ever thought about being a slug sage? with the new healing technique she showed against Edo Madara, I highly doubt it. WHat could be the requirements for one to get the sage slug technique that tsunade isnt able to perform? anyone thinks the slug princess can pull off a slug sage mode? i would want to, but at this stage of the battles, i thinks we wont see that.

[ForMotherRussia]

Dying to see some Sunade slug sage mode!!!. But again sakura is for sure going to surpass her -.-

just imagine Sakura or Tsunade all wet and sticky, with their eyes sticking out from out of their eyesockets. I hope we'll never see the slime sage-mode, its just too unpleasant.

[joshua019]

This is so inconsistent with the 1st introduction of the sage mode...

[Darjaille]

Haha, at least we have the confirmation for Uzumaki Karin. I hope she survives the war and has some talk with Naruto later P:

Dragon Sage Mode!
Soo glad Kabuto won't fall under the almost-fodder label. Some interesting stuff is ahead of us :3 It seems he'll be okay against Susanoo, Amaterasu and it seems he was confident in facing Tsukuyomi also.

Awesome week.

[jalix]

Wonder if after what will be a drawn out battle, it will come down to Sasuke tricking Kabuto by actually using a genjutsu with one of Kabuto's snakes somehow. Seems cliche since Sasuke did this with Manda, so it could be that Kabuto learned that lesson and is ready for it. But at some point I think Kishimoto wants to make it clear that Sasuke could have surpassed Itachi. Seems obvious given Sasuke's EMS, but still. And I keep thinking of what Tobi said when Sasuke used a genjutsu against Danzou.

[Alien81]

Since Kabuto can liquefy his body should not Sasuke use Lightning on him, remember Bee and sugetysu, and now that Karin is an Uzumaki what will happen if Karin and Sasuke have a kid would he be the sage of six paths? or have similar powers

[decadoh]

It always seemed hokey that only one type of animal was capable of sensing natural energy anyway. You'd expect the smarter animals in the animal kingdom to perform a feat like that. Infact, didn't the databook state something about animals naturally being able to sense energy? If that's the case then even before Sage Mode existed, every animal pact was capable of it.

agreed. you were spot on. saying that only frogs can have sage mode would mean that they are the most skilled in ninja and sage arts, which also means they are better than all if not most animals.

[Orochimaru-Sama]

One of the best chapters of the whole manga.

Sasuke was hilarious and more mature in this chapter.
So he did a lot of researches to beat Orochimaru.
Hmm hours to read books.

Calling Kabuto a piece of crap left by Orochimaru was hilarious,seriously guys.

Now if we compare with Naruto sage mode it becomes really interesting.
All Naruto jutsu are like multiplicated and bigger,(hmm,Sage art non stop gargantuan rasengan barrage,oh boy)
So if Kabuto can pull off something that destructive,Itachi and Sasuke will be obliged to be really serious,even if Itachi is already very serious.

So pleasant to see the 2 brothers fighting together,i praise Edo Tensei only for this chapter,whatever plot holes or infinite debates it creates.

Really looking for the next chapter.

[ecoX]

3rd Hokages grandson Monkey sage.. That might be nice.

Since this sage thing will be a topic for laughs lets go with turtle sage Guy and dog sage kakashi, bug sage shino

[jalix]

One of the best chapters of the whole manga.

Sasuke was hilarious and more mature in this chapter.
So he did a lot of researches to beat Orochimaru.
Hmm hours to read books.

Calling Kabuto a piece of crap left by Orochimaru was hilarious,seriously guys.

Now if we compare with Naruto sage mode it becomes really interesting.
All Naruto jutsu are like multiplicated and bigger,(hmm,Sage art non stop gargantuan rasengan barrage,oh boy)
So if Kabuto can pull off something that destructive,Itachi and Sasuke will be obliged to be really serious,even if Itachi is already very serious.

So pleasant to see the 2 brothers fighting together,i praise Edo Tensei only for this chapter,whatever plot holes or infinite debates it creates.

Really looking for the next chapter.

Yeah my favorite moment is still the "Dr. Snakes" jab by Itachi. It was a real sibling kind of hazing. The only thing missing was Itachi putting Sasuke in a headlock and giving him nuggies. :D Would love to see that in a caption. "You sure know a lot about snakes, Dr. Snakes. You read books about all of this, Dr. Snakes? Anything else you want to tell me about snakes, Dr. Snakes?"

I also like that Kabuto got involved in the gag too... "you won't beat me by just being Dr. Snakes." It'd be hilarious if other characters start calling Sasuke Dr. Snakes instead of Sasuke from now on just to piss him off. "Hey Dr. Snakes, how's that revenge thing going?"

[THM Nindo]

Wow! Kabuto looks strong now!
I'm happy to know that Sage Mode isn't only for Frogs.

I guess there's also a slug place somewhere... :tem


PS:
Karin is officially a Uzumaki! :D
It's nice knowing that Naruto isn't the only one anymore!

[Kisame Hoshigaki]

very good chapter kabuto really has out done himself to master the snake-sage mode, wow

it seems like it will be an interesting fight, i cannot wait to see what happens next chapter. hopefully itachi will get in on the fight a little bit more

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Wow! Kabuto looks strong now!
I'm happy to know that Sage Mode isn't only for Frogs.

I guess there's also a slug place somewhere... :tem


PS:
Karin is officially a Uzumaki! :D
It's nice knowing that Naruto isn't the only one anymore!
yes and naruto is lucky enough to be an uzumaki who didnt get the ginger trait :)

[GOOMOONRYONG]

Damn looks like there were people correct about Karin being from the Uzumaki clan and believing in the potential of Kabuto becoming a badass. It's a shame he will be defeated here but it was interesting to find out there are other Sage Mode's out there. Dragon Sage Mode does sound pretty sweet and shit Kabuto is fast, he dodged Sasuke's Susanoo arrow like it was nothing at such a close range.

Itachi seems to the be the all knowing old man archetype, every time Kabuto explained something Itachi said "mhm, yes I knew it. damn i was right on the money" its funny. I hope Kabuto puts up a tough fight, I don't want things to be over in 2 chapters. Good to know Kabuto wasn't just wasting his time during the few years we didn't see him once.

[mattiaildivino]

finally kabuto shows what he has been doing until now! that is training to transform,from a snake to a dragon! anyway,I find odd that he can keep up with 2 MS users...

[Kisame Hoshigaki]

Damn looks like there were people correct about Karin being from the Uzumaki clan and believing in the potential of Kabuto becoming a badass. It's a shame he will be defeated here but it was interesting to find out there are other Sage Mode's out there. Dragon Sage Mode does sound pretty sweet and shit Kabuto is fast, he dodged Sasuke's Susanoo arrow like it was nothing at such a close range.

Itachi seems to the be the all knowing old man archetype, every time Kabuto explained something Itachi said "mhm, yes I knew it. damn i was right on the money" its funny. I hope Kabuto puts up a tough fight, I don't want things to be over in 2 chapters. Good to know Kabuto wasn't just wasting his time during the few years we didn't see him once.

i still think the door is open for an orochimaru comeback... it just seems like it would fit perfectly

kabuto may very well be as badass as tobi, just in a different way, too bad for him i think sasuke has easily surpassed itachi, and itachi is still badass himself

so kabuto's only chance for survival is if he can pull a houdini disappearing act

[meeedoooz]

didn't finish the whole discussion , as someone mentioned Gara may in fact be an Uzumaki and that's great :D with gara, nagato and naruto the uzumaki clan would really be the strongest clan in the series ( or close second :P )

since kabuto uses others to study then collect powers, why does he need anko or whatever her name is

[mattiaildivino]

I think the other name which was pronounced by kabuto together with the reign of snake and myoboku is the place where slugs live. it would be pretty suitable to the sannins: toads,snakes and slugs :)

[Sabot RND]

3rd Hokages grandson Monkey sage.. That might be nice.

Since this sage thing will be a topic for laughs lets go with turtle sage Guy and dog sage kakashi, bug sage shino

just how we were dishing out sharingans/rinnegans on a platter to anyone with a viable eye/arm socket, why not dish out Sage titles to anyone who owns an animal :D

but seriously well done to kabuto for becoming a Sage. and to be trained by the Boss of All Snakes (b.o.a.s hehehe) while naruto only got taught by the number 2 toad.

My only question is that do these sages (white snake and toad) know about each others 'secret' training location? Coz i remember when Jiraiya first went to myoboku he came in between Gamabunta vs some snake. If so then its safe to assume that sage mode is a generic mode first bestowed upon animals probably by the younger sage's son that has little or no differences between users unlike the sharingan which differs in both pattern and function as you improve it.

[GOOMOONRYONG]

i still think the door is open for an orochimaru comeback... it just seems like it would fit perfectly

kabuto may very well be as badass as tobi, just in a different way, too bad for him i think sasuke has easily surpassed itachi, and itachi is still badass himself

so kabuto's only chance for survival is if he can pull a houdini disappearing act

I don't really expect Kabuto to win/escape but it would make things more interesting if he did, maybe the Kages would man up and find a way to defeat ET Madara. Even with Dragon Sage Mode he is facing MS Itachi, one of the top Uchihas and EMS Sasuke also one of the top Uchiha. Kabuto could very well escape with all the new abilities he has gained especially if he can liquify himself now, he could escape through a crack in the cave wall. Plus he has even faster healing now which is hard to believe.

Kabuto should have said: Most people from the Uzumaki clan have red hair. Naruto is the exception and it's a good thing because he might have been targeted if his hair was red.

[redred]

Wow i had to stop reading the chapter halfway through just to mention that i feel this chapter was written by someone on these forums.
Sasuke getting called "dr snakes" felt like a page out of the "edit panels" contest.
and now the whole karin has red hair = uzumaki thing...
lol time to finish reading. i wonder what kabuto will say next

[Orochimaru-Sama]

Yeah my favorite moment is still the "Dr. Snakes" jab by Itachi. It was a real sibling kind of hazing. The only thing missing was Itachi putting Sasuke in a headlock and giving him nuggies. :D Would love to see that in a caption. "You sure know a lot about snakes, Dr. Snakes. You read books about all of this, Dr. Snakes? Anything else you want to tell me about snakes, Dr. Snakes?"

I also like that Kabuto got involved in the gag too... "you won't beat me by just being Dr. Snakes." It'd be hilarious if other characters start calling Sasuke Dr. Snakes instead of Sasuke from now on just to piss him off. "Hey Dr. Snakes, how's that revenge thing going?"

True,Dr Snakes was pretty funny too :)


Karin is really treated like trash btw,everybody sucked on her,Sasuke just chidoried her in the boobs to kill the old bastard,Kabuto sucked some more on her...
This girl is an insult for the Uzumaki clan haha.

[PoopNScoop]

Itachi is looking very worried and as though he lost all of his cool, but Sasuke is just treating this as another battle. Sure, it seems as though Sage Snake Mode and all of Kabuto's experimentation makes him a hell of an enemy, but Kabuto will be defeated in the end. Kabuto will give them some trouble - to be sure. However, this is good training for Sasuke for an upcoming fight against Naruto and is being used to display his counter for Naruto's sage mode. Lightning chakra mode FTW!

[jalix]

didn't finish the whole discussion , as someone mentioned Gara may in fact be an Uzumaki and that's great :D with gara, nagato and naruto the uzumaki clan would really be the strongest clan in the series ( or close second :P )

since kabuto uses others to study then collect powers, why does he need anko or whatever her name is

I don't know because Naruto is an exception of the rule itself, thanks to his father being a Namikazi. Most likely Nagato and Karin... maybe even Karui had both Uzumaki parents. Gaara's brother and sister have different colored hair too. I kind of doubt it with Gaara or his family. Either way the Uzumaki clan had to have a few lightweights since they were wiped out... which IMO is still one of the biggest mysteries in the manga (who did it, when did they do it and the real reasons why... since it loosk like both Tobi and Madara could have been behind it).

[mattiaildivino]

dr. snakes. I din't get the point,not at all,at least. anyway,I liked the fact itachi called him so and that kabuto "copied" itachi :)

[toussaintac]

So, the next question is who else's abilities does Kabuto have? He had to have snagged some from Madara and Hashirama when he was working on ET, right? This could get out of hand fairly quickly.

[jalix]

So, the next question is who else's abilities does Kabuto have? He had to have snagged some from Madara and Hashirama when he was working on ET, right? This could get out of hand fairly quickly.

Maybe the only disappointing thing ab out it is that he could technically be considered the "Majin Buu" of the Narutoverse now. :-_- Or cell for that matter since he also stole people's moves and bodies & parts, etc.

[mattiaildivino]

So, the next question is who else's abilities does Kabuto have? He had to have snagged some from Madara and Hashirama when he was working on ET, right? This could get out of hand fairly quickly.

madara realised he had been summoned even before its coffin opened,so kabuto should have been unable to do anything on him,because it would mean madara has already been summoned,whereas when muu summoned him it was clearly the 1st time.

[Sabot RND]

True,Dr Snakes was pretty funny too :)


Karin is really a treated like trash btw,everybody sucked on her,Sasuke just chidoried her in the boobs to kill the old bastard,Kabuto sucked some more on her...
This girl is an insult for the Uzumaki clan haha.

what Karin won't reveal to anyone is the distinct fang bite marks on her genitals and a tatoo of 'kabuto-maru was here :3' on her butt cheek.

[ecoX]

i guess Kirin gets an instant power up from just her name. Naruto should start having sex with all the girls from the village. To think he could start the Uzumaki clan with Karin.

[EnvyOS]

Aren't Dragon's normally known for being immune to Magic?

[ek7]

I can't decide if I liked the chapter or I hated it. By the way does Karin know that Naruto is Uzumaki? And 1 more enemy for Naruto, he will do what Jiraiya couldn't and finish the snake.

[mattiaildivino]

yeah,karin knows about him,check volume 52 out ;) . anyway,I doubt naruto will fight kabuto. right now,he has to fight tobi,maybe madara and most likely sasuke.

[Invader]

I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the one thing about this chapter that propels it into an "Epic" rating even without all the other stuff...

The opening page with Kurama all splayed out, mouth agape, stone cold asleep, and with a ginormous snot-bubble coming out his nose. This chapter wins teh internets this week for no other reason.

Good chapter. Lots of interesting information. However, all of Kabuto's upgrades just sort of seem irrelevant. So what if he can turn into a liquid? So what if he can heal himself (we already knew that)? So what if he can gather natural energy and turn into a sage? Big deal. So far he is still the equivalent of a 98 pound boxer who knows a thousand punches going up against a guy in a Sherman Tank. Susanoo makes all of Kabutos abilities no more impressive than his last bowel movement. The Super Uchiha Brothers can tank everything he can do. So in the end - yay for the information and the upgrades but a big "YAWN - so what?" against his opponents.

[samsiufan]

Bloody Kabuto - casting smears on the Uzumaki name just by using their healing jutsus.... :p

[syx]

I didn't like this chapter. The color page was awful in my opinion, because I just can't get along with the "love-filled" Kyuubi/misunderstood pokemon (like someone other said). Though I have to respect the way Kishi wants to portray Kyuubi.

So it's revealed that Karin is an Uzumaki but she probably doesn't know it. I hope Kishi explains us why Karin & Nagato didn't know about their lineage.

The fight between the Uchiha Bros and Kabuto was just a warm-up. The conversation between Itachi & Sasuke at the beginning was very funny. Sasuke fights offensive while Itachi probably analyzes Kabutos power and plans his first steps to trap Kabuto.

What can I say about Kabuto? Sure, he is putting up a good show and his arsenal is very impressive. But I would advise Kishi to take a break for a couple weeks. Kishi has shown so many innovative and powerful Jutsus, it pains me to see the current villains like

uhm... I took thousand Sharingans of dead Uchihas, which can save my ass every time
meh... I'm nothing with EMS, so I took the cells of the strongest Shinobi to get the eyes of our god
kukuku... I got an amazingly impressive recovery power from the Uzumakis, the transformation ability of the Houzikis blabla damn I'm such a beast

Seriously...individuality would make these villains much more interesting. But that's just my opinion. The line from Kabuto "in the world of ninjas, if one doesn't have any talent, even his existence will be totally denied. Just go take it from others and make it yours." is exactly what makes me dislike such characters. This is the reason why I put these characters on the same level like Sakura. I'm talking about the way they are characterized, not about powerlevel.

[PoopNScoop]

Not to mention, that Hozuki liquid body technique is weak against lighting. I say Sasuke gets the win against Kabuto and he will do it fairly easily. This fight will last a max of 5 chapters.

[badluckartist]

I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the one thing about this chapter that propels it into an "Epic" rating even without all the other stuff...

The opening page with Kurama all splayed out, mouth agape, stone cold asleep, and with a ginormous snot-bubble coming out his nose. This chapter wins teh internets this week for no other reason.

Good chapter. Lots of interesting information. However, all of Kabuto's upgrades just sort of seem irrelevant. So what if he can turn into a liquid? So what if he can heal himself (we already knew that)? So what if he can gather natural energy and turn into a sage? Big deal. So far he is still the equivalent of a 98 pound boxer who knows a thousand punches going up against a guy in a Sherman Tank. Susanoo makes all of Kabutos abilities no more impressive than his last bowel movement. The Super Uchiha Brothers can tank everything he can do. So in the end - yay for the information and the upgrades but a big "YAWN - so what?" against his opponents.

Honestly? The last panel of Kabuto really made it for me. I hate the word "epic" in contexts like this as much as the next pedantic guy (and I very much can be), but I generally give it to chapters that have amazing art and/or story. Most of the art rocked face in this chapter... there was one panel where Susanoo's hand was strangely small but whatever. I didn't like the fact that Kabuto obtained Suigetsu's powers, but I can somehow accept him using Juugo's, and the explanation thereof.

I'm... I don't know how to feel about Karin being an Uzumaki. Like the whole "Sage mode" aspect of the story, I wish Hawk had been introduced gradually throughout the beginning of Part II and expanded upon normally instead of being all thrown in our faces in huge chunks at awkward places in the story. I might be more comfortable with all this if that were the case l: l

[ptolemy]

I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the one thing about this chapter that propels it into an "Epic" rating even without all the other stuff...

The opening page with Kurama all splayed out, mouth agape, stone cold asleep, and with a ginormous snot-bubble coming out his nose. This chapter wins teh internets this week for no other reason.

Good chapter. Lots of interesting information. However, all of Kabuto's upgrades just sort of seem irrelevant. So what if he can turn into a liquid? So what if he can heal himself (we already knew that)? So what if he can gather natural energy and turn into a sage? Big deal. So far he is still the equivalent of a 98 pound boxer who knows a thousand punches going up against a guy in a Sherman Tank. Susanoo makes all of Kabutos abilities no more impressive than his last bowel movement. The Super Uchiha Brothers can tank everything he can do. So in the end - yay for the information and the upgrades but a big "YAWN - so what?" against his opponents.

It's more like three guys in sherman tanks - or three boxers - however you want to frame it. Kabuto's abilities make the uchihas' abilities just as ineffective offensively.

[Chojin]

Sage of Snakes smoking pot lol

[Aikidoka]

I wonder if Kabuto also got Karin's other ability...

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/BhlewosAQW/KabutoBiteMeSasuke.png

..Eeyugh.