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Newkerzy
May 11, 2012, 07:48 AM
Chapter is out:

http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v33/c282/2.html

Heh, typical Natsu. Welp, he can kiss his chance goodbye at fighting in the tournament tomorrow:3c. Not because he'll get his ass handed to Genma, but because Makarov will hand his ass on a silver platter while apologizing profusedly to Genma. I think Genma will just let them go and not report the situation to the committee simply because he'd rather solve it through the tournament and because he respects Makarov's strength and thus wouldn't dare go against him unless he had to.

Genma seems to be the type of person to respect strength (much like the Raikage) so, he will only admit his mistakes if FT shows the power of friendship (bleh, I know but it's Mashima's theme, so deal with it) to him.

EDIT: Please tell me that Zentopia incident is not from the anime. Otherwise, I think I'm gonna have to watch the fillers (not that I mind). Feels like a pretty dirty way to promote the new filler arc. I think I also see that floating castle-thingie from the new opening.

THM Nindo
May 11, 2012, 08:08 AM
Great chapter!

We now have some new information...

- The 5th member is Minerva
- The 12 keys open the "Gate to changing the world"
- Something about the Zentopia incident

Now, they managed to make Yukino really important to the plot...
Natsu care about her, so I doubt she would die...

So far, this manga has been death-free, and I can't see it starting with Yukino...

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EDIT: Please tell me that Zentopia incident is not from the anime. Otherwise, I think I'm gonna have to watch the fillers (not that I mind). Feels like a pretty dirty way to promote the new filler arc. I think I also see that floating castle-thingie from the new opening.

I haven't seen the filler myself, but it does look like this could be it...
Although, the fillers take place between their awakening and the tournament...

There was no mention of this anywhere in the manga before, so it would be really strange if suddenly, the manga mention a full arc that wasn't even there to begin with...

Weird...
I guess, I'll have to watch the filler now...

It's not so bad, it actually looked pretty good...
I would have watched it eventually, anyway! :tem

Shader
May 11, 2012, 09:13 AM
Okay..now case of that type of attitude we are love Natsu!!
Grate chapter, i hope he will not get owned badly and i hope Makarov not gonna intervene

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May 11, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Ifrit
May 11, 2012, 09:26 AM
I don't understand. Zeref Said there are no keys or its just a myth, so did he mean the keys are not necessarily to awake him, but they are needed to change the world ???

Also in the S-Class arc. Lucy had 9 keys in the middle she got the 10th also, so what keys did HADES collect -_-

Even if it did work. This means its not in Zeref hand to change the world, or he can't open the portal to change the world even if he is awake.....

I guess HADES did not know shit about what he was doing.

I don't think the fight will actually start between SABERTOOTH master and Natsu it will be interrupted by Makarov I'm sure, or it might starts but won't finish. Yukino probably was on her way to tell Fairy Tail that Natsu is about to do something stupid....

redred
May 11, 2012, 09:30 AM
This chapter got me all fired up xD
I knew for sure natsu was bound to do something reckless but seeing him kick around sabertooths members was awesome.
This can only end badly though... I have a feeling the stronger mages aren't just going to let him walk in and fight a fair fight. I could be wrong though.

-Ken-
May 11, 2012, 09:32 AM
So far, this manga has been death-free, and I can't see it starting with Yukino...


It's not death-free. Simon had died.

llamapie
May 11, 2012, 09:32 AM
This chapter got me all fired up xD
I knew for sure natsu was bound to do something reckless but seeing him kick around sabertooths members was awesome.
This can only end badly though... I have a feeling the stronger mages aren't just going to let him walk in and fight a fair fight. I could be wrong though.

I honestly think they will the way the 2 DS questioned their master's actions and all. And the guy seems like he wouldn't turn down a challeng so easily. But yes I really loved that entrance. What a nice twist, just pulled me head first into this arc. :P

Buggy
May 11, 2012, 09:45 AM
That must have been the stupidest thing anyone could do. You don't just see something you don't like happen to completely unrelated person and you go wage war with another guild. You can't be the all-knowing protector of justice.

On the other hand, it is completely in-character for Natsu, something like that is the greatest crime for him.

HaiSuShi
May 11, 2012, 09:47 AM
Loved the little talk between Gray and Erza, I'm sure he realized Juvia's feelings a while ago, but did his best to hide it, because it's too troublesome.:teehee

Here I'm hoping for Yukino joining the guild, because someone has to show the girl how good life and guilds can be. That she addresses everyone with -sama speaks volumes how she must have lived her life...

sarutobi_sensei
May 11, 2012, 09:52 AM
So, Lucy refused the keys. Well, there you go, we have the first of the new members to FT.

Stellar Mages have been disappearing, interesting. Does someone else think that maybe Layla isn't dead but is actually in some sort of spirit form or something?

The 12 keys being reunited will cause great destruction from activating Eclipse. But at the same time, I want to see it happen fast so that we can get to the main point of this arc :D That and maybe Lucy will end up summoning the King even if unknowingly.

Hah, Gray doesn't want to admit his feelings xD

Natsu vs another master? Figures, that's what he'd do after hearing her story.

Could it be that the 5th member is the DS equivalent of Wendy and is basically a carbon copy of her, but way more confident?

Sting's face when seeing Natsu was awesome as well. And I have to wonder if there'll be someone who'll help Natsu get out of this mess, or if he'll get out of it alone.

---------- Post added at 03:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------

The Zentopia incident hasn't happened in the anime, it could happen, but it hasn't.

Filler arc will be good actually, the theme is interesting.

Atobe the king
May 11, 2012, 09:56 AM
Lol, such a natsu thing to do, yet i wasn't expecting him to get all fired up. This guild is just getting humble pie every chapter it seems lol.

Gray scene was cute, nice to know he's not oblivious.

still stuck in lucy fanservice...lol mashima.

llamapie
May 11, 2012, 10:38 AM
Lol, such a natsu thing to do, yet i wasn't expecting him to get all fired up. This guild is just getting humble pie every chapter it seems lol.

Gray scene was cute, nice to know he's not oblivious.

still stuck in lucy fanservice...lol mashima.
Softcore porn is what gets us readers hooked. :D

kkck
May 11, 2012, 10:38 AM
Well, this was an interesting chapter.

Thinking about it, lucy not accepting the keys is very typical to say the least. She is bound to have them forced on her at some point anyways. I think the development makes things more interesting overall although I am not sure of what to expect.

Not sure I liked the yukina bit though. I mean, she burst into tears the very second someone offers her nothing short of the most basic courtesy you would normally owe to even strangers just because? Whats next, natsu accidentally touches her when he is walking by and she falls in love? Every aspect of her life must have been hell for yukina from birth to this very point and she must have been so overwhelmingly unlucky not a single stranger she ever ran into at random was a complete ass.

Anyways, natsu's reaction was expected although I don't expect the confrontation to last long. I think makarov will burst in and stop things before they get serious. The makarov is likely to hear what happened and he is likely to want to beat the shit out of genma but he is going to settle with saying his kids are going to beat the shit out of sabertooth. I wonder how strong genma is for that matter. Natsu was apparently close in power to erza before the timeskip and his magic power was increased more than significantly thanks to urtear. In this regard, odds are he is not significantly behind the 10 holy mages this days basically and odds are his lightning fire dragon slayer magic can be used better now that he is stronger. Perhaps not to the point he could back when he fought hades however enough for him to last more time in it.

Majek
May 11, 2012, 10:51 AM
Hopefully he gets some serious action done before this incident comes to an end. :D I think it's time again for him to shine, even if just a little. It's kind of boring with everyone else getting to do awesome and he can't.

REN KOUEN
May 11, 2012, 11:01 AM
Natsu is a beast!!! Wow im happy he is standing up for that girl

I am kind of surprised lucy turned down the keys

shnugin
May 11, 2012, 11:09 AM
I loved it! Maybe this kind of behavior from Natsu will be good for Sting. Since he did say before that he also respected Natsu before the time skip. I really enjoyed their reaction seeing Natsu go nuts! :zomg

HaiSuShi
May 11, 2012, 11:28 AM
Lucy's breasts just bore me at this point...I'm pretty much tired of them and their enormous size.
I tend to ignore them.
Lucy herself, on the other side, is interesting enough.

Oh and btw, did anyone else notice the Wendy fanservice?:teehee
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/76092768/12
Lucy looks pretty good on this page, too.

Atobe the king
May 11, 2012, 11:40 AM
@kkck

Well...her emotions are probably in a whirl, you have to put into perspective what just happened to her:

-kicked from the guild
-forced to strip in front of a buch of burly looking guys (if this was a seinen you can only wonder what would have come next...)
-remove guild stamp, this was likely done while naked too...not fun

Mind you this is her guild (equivalent of family in most cases) that did this to her, so when a random guy goes out of his way to apologize her, so its no surprise she got really emotional.

Jammin
May 11, 2012, 11:52 AM
I usually don't have much to say about Fairy Tail, especially during a battle tournament arc, but this week I feel the need to mention that THIS is exactly what I love about the series.

Many series will dance around something for entire arcs; where the antagonist does bad stuff until it builds up to the point were the protagonist is forced to confront it. Fairy Tail takes a different approach. At the first sign of wrong doing...IT'S ON! It takes something that another series would make complicated and simplifies it.

Natsu heard about an injustice that pissed him off; and that's all the reason he needed to pick a fight with the biggest baddest guy around.

So simple. So charming. And exactly the reason I look forward to reading Fairy Tail.http://www.laymark.com/l/o/87.gif

-Ken-
May 11, 2012, 12:03 PM
Natsu breaking in really make a chapter for me. It's a twist that I didn't see coming. And I haven't seen that kind of twist for at least 2 years.

Part of it is due to the fact I thought Genma's butt going to get kick way later.

REN KOUEN
May 11, 2012, 12:07 PM
i would like to see this manga become just slightly more dark. like more death, stronger badguys and bad guys that stick around for a while and cause major catastorphe

but it is still a damn good series and a great story

ILikeSleeping
May 11, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oh man oh man, unexpected ending was unexpected. I am delightfully surprised, but i will talk about it later.

It was quite understandable for Lucy to give up getting those keys. Although she's probably going to get them soon or later. Anyone find it weird that Yukino didn't offer the 13th Gate Key? O_o And what is this Zentopia thing? I see people making connections with the anime but i doubt it, it most likely happened within the 7 year gap.

Poor Yukino, her life must have been terrible. The one thing that she strived for, joining Sabertooth was just torn away in one fell swoop from that guild master. Plus the humiliation, i would be pissed, she handled it all really well up until Natsu opened up to her.

Side note: Oh god...I can smell the Natsu x Yukino fanfictions coming up...:-_-

And wow with Gray, that is really a first, a shonen character that isn't oblivious to a girl's swooning. Congrats for him. I see this gag going on with him ignoring it for quite some time.

And with the ending, wth, that was unexpected yet very in character for Natsu. Betraying nakama is like the bane of all crimes for him.
I see this fight ending up in a number of ways.

1) Natsu beating Gemma, VERY unlikely, but maybe the master is a puss, i mean the guild used to suck.

2) Gemma trashing Natsu, more likely but still not very much so. He still needs to compete.

3) Gemma laughing it off and diffusing the situation in a snide way, likely, i can see him making a remark and then asking to settle this in the tournament by giving Natsu an offer or challenge that he can't refuse.

4) Back-up showing up and helping. Aka Makarov coming and either diffusing the situation OR laying a god holy beatdown on Gemma, as much as i want to see this, this probably won't happen.

5) Gemma lets Natsu fight him and then charges Natsu with breaking the rules (i bet there is a rule that says no fighting between matches) and threatens to suspend Fairy Tail from the game due to his actions (i can see this being twisted in a few ways, main one being something similar to what Flare did in that forcing Fairy Tail to lose).

6) Minerva pops up or someone else from the 5 are sent to fight him and either spar for a bit or Natsu gets owned.

I was going to just rate this chapter good based on the character development in this chapter but rated it epic for the ending. XD

Uriel
May 11, 2012, 12:21 PM
I liked everything. Except the fanservice, but it's natural that Mashima did it. Everyone was in character and acted coherently according to that. Even Yukino, taking his gloomy look from previous chapters was coherent.

And I like this development, because now Yukino is still in play for the Gate. And we learn about Zentopia, that looks like a temple in the mountains. Maybe Stellar Mages are actually quite more? Would be awesome another arc dedicated to it.

kkck
May 11, 2012, 12:22 PM
Ok, another thing which I have been wondering. Clearly the door from the legend yukina mentioned is the one the knight guy wants to open or at least is related to that. However, as far as we know what the knight wants to do is directly related to zeref. As we know, zeref is someone who at some point was capable of creating demons, demons with a lot of power at that. What if he didn't always create demons? What if stellar spirits were at some point a creation of zeref? If this is the case then the relation between lucy, zeref and layla would be a lot clearer. I wonder if the stellar spirits were actually meant to be a seal of sorts over something else? Maybe it is stellar spirits which provide access to the one magic? I also wonder where exactly ophycious would be left in all of this and why lucy wasn't offered that one. Where would the stellar spirit king stand in all of this?

Ether
May 11, 2012, 12:24 PM
Great chapter, really liked the twist at the end and sabertooth's 2 DS reaction when they saw Natsu coming in and kicking some members ass. I'd personally like to see Genma beaten up but i think that the makarov-coming-in-and-putting-a-stop-to-this scenario is more likely to happen. Too bad :/

HaiSuShi
May 11, 2012, 12:43 PM
I usually don't have much to say about Fairy Tail, especially during a battle tournament arc, but this week I feel the need to mention that THIS is exactly what I love about the series.

Many series will dance around something for entire arcs; where the antagonist does bad stuff until it builds up to the point were the protagonist if forced to confront it. Fairy Tail takes a different approach. At the first sign of wrong doing...IT'S ON! It takes something that another series would make complicated and simplifies it.

Natsu heard about an injustice that pissed him off; and that's all the reason he needed to pick a fight with the biggest baddest guy around.

So simple. So charming. And exactly the reason I look forward to reading Fairy Tail.http://www.laymark.com/l/o/87.gif

If I had to describe Fairy Tail with one word, it would be refreshing.
This is the reason why Fairy Tail is my favorite Shonen manga right now. The little details, the characters interacting, and most of all the way Mashima makes you care for(or hate) most of his characters. When the guilds participating in the Grand Magic Games were shown, I wouldn't have thought I would be as interested in these characters as I am right now. The same goes for Hades and Grimoire Heart.

ShoobyDooBop
May 11, 2012, 01:12 PM
I liked everything in the chapter.

I felt more sorry for Yukino. Just what kind of life did she have? A girl having her self-respect destroyed is a serious thing(Girls, how do you handle this? and getting kicked out of the guild she looked up to. I hope she overcomes this. I'm pretty sure now she'll join FT.

The interaction between Erza and Gray was fun to read. So Gray knows after all. Well, that's to be expected since he's not a moron. Liked his reaction when Erza asked "Why don't you make everything clear?". It's like he ate something sour.

About Natsu... Normally I would be annoyed by what he did but no, I actually like what he's doing now. And Sting and Rogue's reactions when they saw Natsu trashing their members was awesome. I'm starting to like him again.

Morlun
May 11, 2012, 01:18 PM
Holy ****!

That ending left me giggling like a kid. I'm still smiling from ear to ear. Gods, I love Natsu.

Jammin
May 11, 2012, 01:33 PM
If I had to describe Fairy Tail with one word, it would be refreshing.
This is the reason why Fairy Tail is my favorite Shonen manga right now. The little details, the characters interacting, and most of all the way Mashima makes you care for(or hate) most of his characters. When the guilds participating in the Grand Magic Games were shown, I wouldn't have thought I would be as interested in these characters as I am right now. The same goes for Hades and Grimoire Heart. Yeah, I can definitely understand where the that fondness comes from.

It's pretty high on my list of favorite series (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/1172-YOUR-TOP-20-MANGAS!?p=2883520&viewfull=1#post2883520) too. I have a hard time with battle tournament stuff; which is not to say there is anything really wrong with any of that, it's just not my thing. During it's adventure arcs(like the Tower of Heaven arc)I probably like Fairy Tail almost as much as Beelzebub.

lucy heartfilia
May 11, 2012, 02:36 PM
Natsu will be lose !!!

Because there is no support for natsu !!! like golden fire:-_-


but i think , the people like orge will stand in front of their master!!!

exacta
May 11, 2012, 02:38 PM
Natsu is a much better character when he does stuff like this. We all know it's not smart and extremely rash, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't want to see Sabertooth get its ass kicked for treating Yukino like that. And charging in and messing shit up is the best way to do it. It 'kinda alot like what Phantom Lord did though.... Never expected Natsu would challenge Genma to a fight though, this should be really interesting.

Have to mention though, Lucy if I've learned anything from this manga it's that owners of Stellar Spirits can be switched very, very easy lol.

goldb
May 11, 2012, 02:45 PM
Quite enjoyed this chapter and seeing Yukino's character developped that way and Natsu coming to her rescue. I'm quite glad that Lucy turned down the 2 other gold keys cos I was getting the feeling she'd gained some of them a bit too easily.

I think Genma vs Natsu will be interrupted or something as the tournament is still going on, otherwise I think Natsu would lose.

PeleFT
May 11, 2012, 03:46 PM
Goodness Gracious, this chapter (for me atleast) was epic. Just what I needed after a string of losses for Fairy Tail with Sabertooth conitinually being pompous butt heads.
And it was a little weird when Yukino did not offer the thirteenth key, though I am a little glad that Lucy did not accept any of them, I am looking forward to this new plot twist "The 12 keys have been gathered. The gateway that changes the world will open." Probably Lucy and Levy will start looking it up on what the heck it is. But I'm really surprised that Yukino and Lucy are supposedly the only stellar spirit mages left; has this Zentopia accident have something to do with the shortage of Stellar Spirit and the weird dark guy Arcadios?
On another note, Yukino calls the fifth Sabertooth member, Minerva, which is the Roman name for the Greek goddess Athena, the goddess of war and wisdom. So would this mean that Minerva is a mage of high intelligence and vicously strong? Maybe she won't be annoying but hopefully a likable character?
And I hope that Grey will somehow at some point show a little lovin' for Juvia before lyon does (I was soooo glad he blushed at the though of it :teehee). I litteraly said "kya!"
And I am very very VERY glad that Natsu opened a can of whoop-a** on Sabertooth. Those faces on the Sabertooth members (especially those two DS)- priceless. And about Genma and Natsu's fight, I'm a little worried that Genma also uses Titan magic like Makarov. I'll still be rooting for Natsu, but I would prefer the match to be between Genma and Makarov (it would be amazing to see Makarov show who's boss even for his height).
And who will probably throw the first punch? Natsu- A nice fiery punch to Genma's face. (At least thats what I wanna see.)

And yes. This was refreshing.

Franklyn D. Kieran
May 11, 2012, 04:37 PM
Natsu is such a badass! It's how much he cares for people and takes things in to his own hands that makes me love his character! Also the fact he managed to take out so many members of the Sabertooth Guild and then challenge the Master by himself makes me feel like Sabertooth would NEVER have become top guild if Natsu and the gang weren't time warped.

Imagine if the likes of Erza, Gray Lucy, Gajeel, Laxus and Makarov were there. I mean come on Sting and Rogue looked petrified just looking at Natsu's raw strength, not even beggining to use some of his best moves. Fairy Tail is the power of a true guild!

Sollum
May 11, 2012, 04:50 PM
Okay... That was insane...

Its hard to predict next chapter...
a) Minerva will fight Natsu
b) I doubt that Gemma is weaker than Guildartz, so Natsu will go down
c) Natsu somehow manages to use his second magic container or maybe taps into Godslayer flames and owns Gemma big time

If Gemma losses, there's always someone second in command to take his place. So i think its actually possible plot twist.

NAM61
May 11, 2012, 04:59 PM
Natsu will be lose !!!

Because there is no support for natsu !!! like golden fire:-_-


but i think , the people like orge will stand in front of their master!!!
you guys forget natsu is way stronger then before tanks to utear. he will probably be able to use LFM.

---------- Post added at 03:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:57 PM ----------

awesome how he took out all the members of sabertooth to get in. gemma is about to get namaka punch

Leonsagara
May 11, 2012, 05:21 PM
I think this move shows some character growth for Natsu. Not in what he's doing(pretty normal for him), but in who he's doing it for. Natsu's anger in the past has only been directed against people who hurt other members of Fairy Tail(or close allies), which Yukino clearly is not. He's becoming more of a heroic character, willing to fight on the behalf of strangers, rather than just his fellow guild members. Also, I have to say his entrance into ST headquarters was freakin' awesome!

SlayerKisame
May 11, 2012, 05:58 PM
Awesome chapter! Natsu breaking in? I never expected that! Looks like Zeref is going to be resurrected, woopie. Here's my prediction for next chapter:

Gemma and Natsu will start fighting.
Laxus and Gajeel see the mess Natsu is in and joins.
Huge brawl.
Makarov comes and stops them.

Impossibility
May 11, 2012, 06:51 PM
Awesome chapter! Natsu charging in was absolutely typical Natsu, and you've gotta love it despite the complete idiocy of the move. I really didn't see this coming from the last chapter. Hopefully we'll get to see a bit of Gemma in action, although I don't see a full-fledged battle between the two as a likely event. Yukino seems to be on the way to some tough times. I really don't see Lucy not having the final two zodiacs, so Yukino may be facing a much shortened lifespan. Can't wait for the next chapter.

frozen18ice
May 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
chapter was epic, but at the same time kinda expected from the tittle being how the tittle said ten keys and two keys not twelve keys i guess yukina willl repay natsu for what he is about to do for her in saving lucy, mybe the world changes for because of the keys but the way the door was opened it could be that if the stellar mages open the door by forced it does not work, love the expression on the other dragon slayer and their cats along with the other two members that mimic the cats reaction

llamapie
May 11, 2012, 11:58 PM
I usually don't have much to say about Fairy Tail, especially during a battle tournament arc, but this week I feel the need to mention that THIS is exactly what I love about the series.

Many series will dance around something for entire arcs; where the antagonist does bad stuff until it builds up to the point were the protagonist is forced to confront it. Fairy Tail takes a different approach. At the first sign of wrong doing...IT'S ON! It takes something that another series would make complicated and simplifies it.

Natsu heard about an injustice that pissed him off; and that's all the reason he needed to pick a fight with the biggest baddest guy around.

So simple. So charming. And exactly the reason I look forward to reading Fairy Tail.http://www.laymark.com/l/o/87.gif

Ya that's really the only reason I still read it to be honest ... and well the various racy panels help keep my attention too because I'm a super perv.

Bayond that Mashima sort of just gives people power ups without really showing any training and that much bugs me. Beyond that though I like the story and it has great potential when it comes down to it.

On other notes I always knew that combining all 12 keys would lead to something big. It seems like you can open holes in dimensions and summon something huge. IE the spirit king I think in Lucy's case but it can be twisted to summon stuff like Zeref it seems. I think Lucy will still end up with all 12 keys some how and possibly the 13th. If Mashima is going to kill of a character its going to be this new spirit mage.

crimsonlink310
May 12, 2012, 01:32 AM
Well I was wrong about Yukino wanting to challenge Lucy for the keys lol. It was nic that Yukino is so polite, adding all the sama after everyone's name.

I also like that Lucy said she couldn't take the keys and the fanservice is topnotch as always. It was the 2nd part of the chapter that was amazing. Natsu has grown up a lot like Happy had said, him wanting to peek at the girls during training was another sign actually lol.

I'm really looking forward to the fight if Genma does attack Natsu or someone else will interfere from either side.

Sollum
May 12, 2012, 03:53 AM
When i saw Gemma and his attitude, i instantly remembered another character from another series that may be him in his youth :P

http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/nOsB5XZ/full/akuma-gif.gif

Gats
May 12, 2012, 04:56 AM
For some reason Gemma seems to be the type of guy who would use fire if he has an element. Which would totally favor Natsu actually. But well, this guy is such a mountain that he is certainly a melee type anyway...

Sollum
May 12, 2012, 04:58 AM
For some reason Gemma seems to be the type of guy who would use fire if he has an element. Which would totally favor Natsu actually. But well, this guy is such a mountain that he is certainly a melee type anyway...

Fire *cough* God *cough* Slayer *cough*

Gats
May 12, 2012, 07:53 AM
Fire *cough* God *cough* Slayer *cough*

Your point is... ?
Even this, Natsu was able to swallow.

MONKEYS
May 12, 2012, 10:30 AM
Okay... That was insane...

Its hard to predict next chapter...
a) Minerva will fight Natsu
b) I doubt that Gemma is weaker than Guildartz, so Natsu will go down
c) Natsu somehow manages to use his second magic container or maybe taps into Godslayer flames and owns Gemma big time

If Gemma losses, there's always someone second in command to take his place. So i think its actually possible plot twist.

Hmm, part b is interesting. I wonder how the mages of this universe stack up. Obviously Makarov is better than anyone in a legal guild, and most in the dark guilds, save Hades, and Zeref (maybe a few others), then there's other guild masters, probably having Gildarts and Jura somewhere within that group. Then I'd say Laxus, the rest of the S ranks, and the fodder.

Natsu is probably in the S rank area, but he's a bit dumb and hotheaded, so he can't really be an S-rank.

Anyway, back to being on topic. I think Natsu's going to get his ass handed to him. Yeah, Gemma's going to give him the old beat down.
*Unlikely speculation begin*
However, I think all the members of Sabertooth will be affected by Natsu's actions, and maybe even Sting will soften up a bit. Makarov will be pissed, but knowing that exacting vengeance will only serve to get him into trouble with the magic council, he'll refrain from taking action. Natsu will probably be out until the fifth day of the competition, where he'll make a dramatic entry into the battle portion (I think it's tag battle on day 5).
How he'll recover, probably by eating a lot of fire.
*Unlikely speculation end*
Anyway, loved the chapter, even though it was a non-tourney one (I prefer the tourney ones). Can't wait until next week.

Airgrimes
May 12, 2012, 12:03 PM
Natsu is probably in the S rank area, but he's a bit dumb and hotheaded, so he can't really be an S-rank.


Plot Power makes him a confident S-Rank ability wise.

Lectro Volpi
May 12, 2012, 02:48 PM
Yukino's tears and suffering makes my heart tingle. I think I'm in love.

Predictions? sure:

A) Gemma fights Natsu.
B) One of the dragonslayers fights with "don't bother with him master" thing.
C) First two options but battle interrupted.

The last one seems more likely.

thousandIN1
May 12, 2012, 07:04 PM
does anyone think that yukino will replace lucy and lucy will die or be away???
also i wish wendy went with natsu incase the ds would challenge him. i have a feeling that minerva is going to be a ds or her magic will be linked to roman/greek mythology.
i read somewhere here that somebody had mentioned that sabertooth is like the exact opposite of fairy tail.

Uriel
May 12, 2012, 08:28 PM
Lucy replaced? No way. In thousands years. Yukino will die, though.

Ifrit
May 12, 2012, 10:55 PM
I hope they do fight even if it last 1 page. As long we get to see Gemma magic, and Sting give me the idea that Minerva is the strongest among those 5 members, so not sure if Wendy can handle this one.

As much as I hate Natsu :P . I did like the entrance to SABERTOOTH guild, and I'm looking forward to see it animated. After we finish from Natsu nakama crap can we go back to the competitions please :S

Krono
May 13, 2012, 11:10 PM
I hope they do fight even if it last 1 page. As long we get to see Gemma magic, and Sting give me the idea that Minerva is the strongest among those 5 members, so not sure if Wendy can handle this one.

I expect they will fight given the title. I expect it'll get interrupted though. Probably just as one or both of them is about to go no holds barred.

Kreantz
May 14, 2012, 04:49 AM
mmmm, i hope natsu will use his lighting flame power ( i dont know is he still got that power ..if anyone know that he still got it pls tell me :D) and kicked the ass of the saber tooth guild master...and btw, i want to see the saber tooth guild master power and how he fight.:cheez

Marche
May 14, 2012, 12:19 PM
Now I will post what I believe will happened in the next chapters:

I really don’t know if Gemma is strong or weak.
I don’t know because the guild before that this five member joined the guild was really weak, but there is even the possibilities that even if Gemma is strong the guild was weak, just like was Fairy Tail with Makarov.
In fact even if Makaravo was already the master of Fairy Tail the guild was weak, in fact only recently, some years before the time skip, with Natsu’s generation (except for Gildzarts) the guild became really strong and famous, at least this is what said Jose in the war between Phantom Lord and Fairy Tail.

Anyways I believe that this match will not have a winner, because this match will be interrupted, in fact I don’t think that we will have a clearly winner between Natsu and Gemma.
I believe this because Natsu can’t lose already after the power up, but the same Gemma can’t lose now, it’s too early.
Anyways I believe that in the next chapter Natsu will repeat what he said to Yukino, that a guild who make cry a nakama is not a guild, I believe that this could make reflect Rogue (in the truth he have already doubt if Sabertooth can be really called a guild).
In fact as I said in 281 chapter’s thread I believe in two options:
1) At the end of the tourment all the five strong mages will leave Sabertooth, so Sabertooth will return to be a weak guild, this would be really the worst punishment for Gemma.
2) All the five member will remain to Sabertooth, but the guild will change, I don’t know if Gemma will remain the master or not, but anyways Sabertooth will became a guild more similar to Fairy Tail, and probably Yukino will be readmitted to the guild.
But as I already said, it’s too early for this, the change will happened at the end of this arc.


I don’t think that Rogue, Sting, Rufus or Orga will interference, I believe that the one who will stop the fight will be Makarov or Minerva.
I think that Happy will go to call Makarov (I would be really happy if with him will came even Luxus and Gazille, but even Gray and Erza, if they will met each other on the way).
Anyways I believe that Makarov will arrive when the fight has already ended, in fact I believe that the fight will be stopped by Minerva.

Minerva is the name of a roman goddess, she is the corresponding of greek’s goddess Athena.
I have searched on Wikipedia, so now below I post what there is written on Wikipedia, only the part that could be important for us.
“Athena was the goddess of wisdom, weaving, crafts and more noble aspects of war (such as defensive war or made from good cause.
The metalwork of weapons also fell under her patronage”.
For this reason if she will reflect her name I believe that she will stop the fight, at the beginning she will stop Natsu, counting that this act would be a defensive act, but after knowing Natsu’s reason I believe that he could agree with him, because Natsu’s motivations are right, noble, good.
Counting that Athena/Minerva was even the goddess of wisdom I believe that she will be the one who will reach the solution, she will propose a compromise.
Counting that the magic council does not allow a fight between guilds, I believe that she will propose to let decide to the tournament.
If Natsu’s team (but perhaps even of Fairy Tail team B) at the end of the tournament will have more points of Sabertooth Gemma will leave the guild, otherwise he will remain Sabertooth’s master.

I don’t think that Minerva is a loli, I believe that she is really similar to Erza, I believe that she can requip, if not the armour (perhaps she could have a only armour, just like that of Athena goddess), at least the weapons, just like Erza of Edolas.
I believe that she will fight Erza.
I don’t know the result, I believe that the result of the battle will depend if Erza will participate even in the third contest and will take one of the first position, I believe that Erza would lose, otherwise the battle will end in a draw.
We will have a draw even if Minerva will participate to the contest and will be better than Erza, even if Erza would take one of the first place (for example if Minerva will win and Erza will be second).

P.S: I want to know what you thing about what I wrote.

Shadoguardian
May 14, 2012, 11:10 PM
Personal Prediction for chapter 283:
* Jiemma calls Yukino a loser for crying about Sabertooth infront of former opponents, further angering Natsu.
* Natsu attacks Jiemma, who counter-attacks, causing Natsu to be blown back.
* Natsu then charges at Jiemma again and then one of two things occur:

* One of Team Sabertooth gets in the way, either introducing Minerva, or revealing Rogue's or Sting's abilities.
* The entire Team Sabertooth gets in the way.
* Natsu is pushed back, and decides to get serious, enters Fire-Lightning Dragon Slayer Mode, bypasses Team Sabertooth, and nearly hits Jiemma.
* However at the very last moment, Laxus, Mirajane and Gajeel suddenly drop on top of him and pins him down, preventing Natsu from reaching Jiemma.
* Makarov comes into the scene and apologizes to Jiemma, but Jiemma is already pissed, and wants to thrash someone.
* Jiemma then proposes a wager between the two Guild Masters. Which ever guild loses must disband.
* Makarov accepts.

hoeru
May 15, 2012, 06:54 AM
I don't think the last part of your prediction would be able to come true: Guilds are forbidden to fight that way to disband each other, aren't they? A legal guild may not even smack a dark guild anymore. But I agree on Minerva might stop Natsu.

And with her "goddess" name, I predict she's a God Slayer.

THM Nindo
May 15, 2012, 08:39 AM
Now I will post what I believe will happened in the next chapters:

I really don’t know if Gemma is strong or weak.
I don’t know because the guild before that this five member joined the guild was really weak, but there is even the possibilities that even if Gemma is strong the guild was weak, just like was Fairy Tail with Makarov.
In fact even if Makaravo was already the master of Fairy Tail the guild was weak, in fact only recently, some years before the time skip, with Natsu’s generation (except for Gildzarts) the guild became really strong and famous, at least this is what said Jose in the war between Phantom Lord and Fairy Tail.

Anyways I believe that this match will not have a winner, because this match will be interrupted, in fact I don’t think that we will have a clearly winner between Natsu and Gemma.
I believe this because Natsu can’t lose already after the power up, but the same Gemma can’t lose now, it’s too early.
Anyways I believe that in the next chapter Natsu will repeat what he said to Yukino, that a guild who make cry a nakama is not a guild, I believe that this could make reflect Rogue (in the truth he have already doubt if Sabertooth can be really called a guild).
In fact as I said in 281 chapter’s thread I believe in two options:
1) At the end of the tourment all the five strong mages will leave Sabertooth, so Sabertooth will return to be a weak guild, this would be really the worst punishment for Gemma.
2) All the five member will remain to Sabertooth, but the guild will change, I don’t know if Gemma will remain the master or not, but anyways Sabertooth will became a guild more similar to Fairy Tail, and probably Yukino will be readmitted to the guild.
But as I already said, it’s too early for this, the change will happened at the end of this arc.


I don’t think that Rogue, Sting, Rufus or Orga will interference, I believe that the one who will stop the fight will be Makarov or Minerva.
I think that Happy will go to call Makarov (I would be really happy if with him will came even Luxus and Gazille, but even Gray and Erza, if they will met each other on the way).
Anyways I believe that Makarov will arrive when the fight has already ended, in fact I believe that the fight will be stopped by Minerva.

Minerva is the name of a roman goddess, she is the corresponding of greek’s goddess Athena.
I have searched on Wikipedia, so now below I post what there is written on Wikipedia, only the part that could be important for us.
“Athena was the goddess of wisdom, weaving, crafts and more noble aspects of war (such as defensive war or made from good cause.
The metalwork of weapons also fell under her patronage”.
For this reason if she will reflect her name I believe that she will stop the fight, at the beginning she will stop Natsu, counting that this act would be a defensive act, but after knowing Natsu’s reason I believe that he could agree with him, because Natsu’s motivations are right, noble, good.
Counting that Athena/Minerva was even the goddess of wisdom I believe that she will be the one who will reach the solution, she will propose a compromise.
Counting that the magic council does not allow a fight between guilds, I believe that she will propose to let decide to the tournament.
If Natsu’s team (but perhaps even of Fairy Tail team B) at the end of the tournament will have more points of Sabertooth Gemma will leave the guild, otherwise he will remain Sabertooth’s master.

I don’t think that Minerva is a loli, I believe that she is really similar to Erza, I believe that she can requip, if not the armour (perhaps she could have a only armour, just like that of Athena goddess), at least the weapons, just like Erza of Edolas.
I believe that she will fight Erza.
I don’t know the result, I believe that the result of the battle will depend if Erza will participate even in the third contest and will take one of the first position, I believe that Erza would lose, otherwise the battle will end in a draw.
We will have a draw even if Minerva will participate to the contest and will be better than Erza, even if Erza would take one of the first place (for example if Minerva will win and Erza will be second).

P.S: I want to know what you thing about what I wrote.

I agree with most of what you wrote.
I also think that the Sabertooth will stay as a guild, but will be changed, and that Yukino, if she live (which I don't doubt), might come back with them.
Although there also the possibility that she joins Kagura's group since Kagura pretty much own her life now.

I also think that the fight will be interrupted, and having it stopped by Minerva makes a lot of sense since she was just introduced.
And I'm fairly certain that Minerva is the strongest of the 5.

As for the loli thing, I think she will be a loli, because they call her the "young lady".
I don't know if she could actually be Wendy's opponent, but it would be nice to have the strongest one against Wendy for a change.
And Wendy could prove herself, especially now that she read that book and might have learn a stronger move that she could use against Minerva.

I didn't thought about your possible solution regarding the departure of Genma, but I like it.
If Fairy Tail wins, Genma leaves Sabertooth. Although, if they make that kind of wager, the wager needs to be similar for Fairy Tail.
I wonder if Makarov would be willing to bet his own leadership in the same way...

Or like Shadoguardian suggested, maybe the Wager would be even bigger and the guild that lose is forced to disband!
Although, if Sabertooth disband, I have no idea where Sting and Rogue will end up afterwards...

I just hope they don't join Fairy Tail...
There's enough Dragon Slayer in FT... I don't want more...

Newkerzy
May 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
I agree with most of what you wrote.
I didn't thought about your possible solution regarding the departure of Genma, but I like it.
If Fairy Tail wins, Genma leaves Sabertooth. Although, if they make that kind of wager, the wager needs to be similar for Fairy Tail.
I wonder if Makarov would be willing to bet his own leadership in the same way...


I think he would. Macao is a fairly capable master, so I doubt Makarov will mind at all. Besides, if they're in deep shit, they can call him and Gildartz back.

Airgrimes
May 15, 2012, 02:55 PM
I think he would. Macao is a fairly capable master

Oh right. Capable when the most powerful region-feared members were away.
With Natsu, Erza, Gray, Gajeel, Laxus, Mira, Juvia, Levy, Fried, Bixlow etc. back in the guild how capable of a master would he be? He would be fairly useless in the sense that he is a leader with loads of his guild able to wipe the floor with him.

Capable? Take Macao against any other leader in the series. He is probably dead.

Shadoguardian
May 15, 2012, 07:58 PM
Hey, can someone tell me something? I've read two translations of chapter 282 and on page 6 when Yukino is talkin about in Zentopia and celestialspirits in the first frame,one translation says:

"I assume you have noticed that the number of Celestial Spirits is dropping drastically."
While in another translation it says:

"You might have noticed this already, but... over the past several years, the number of Celestial (Stellar) Spirit Mages have dropped precipitously."

Are either of these the correct translation, or is it something completely different?

THM Nindo
May 15, 2012, 08:13 PM
Hey, can someone tell me something? I've read two translations of chapter 282 and on page 6 when Yukino is talkin about in Zentopia and celestialspirits in the first frame,one translation says:

"I assume you have noticed that the number of Celestial Spirits is dropping drastically."
While in another translation it says:

"You might have noticed this already, but... over the past several years, the number of Celestial (Stellar) Spirit Mages have dropped precipitously."

Are either of these the correct translation, or is it something completely different?

That's indeed a really big difference!
Do you know where I could have a look at the raw?

PeleFT
May 15, 2012, 09:48 PM
I doubt anyone wil intercede for Gemma, since it is their prided master. And I also doubt that Minerva is a God Slayer, maybe if Mashima introduces new magic, and they did refer to her as young lady, maybe she uses some kind of age magic that makes her with age grow stronger, more swift, or more wise when needed. Plus the next chapter is called "Natsu vs. Gemma".

On another note, if the guild was weak before the strongest five appeared, then maybe the master is weak also, and the whole angry all the time and huge abs and torso thing is a big gimmick to scare other guilds from ever crossing them.

Krono
May 16, 2012, 12:27 AM
Hey, can someone tell me something? I've read two translations of chapter 282 and on page 6 when Yukino is talkin about in Zentopia and celestialspirits in the first frame,one translation says:

"I assume you have noticed that the number of Celestial Spirits is dropping drastically."
While in another translation it says:

"You might have noticed this already, but... over the past several years, the number of Celestial (Stellar) Spirit Mages have dropped precipitously."

Are either of these the correct translation, or is it something completely different?

"You might have noticed this already, but... over the past several years, the number of Celestial (Stellar) Spirit Mages have dropped precipitously."

Is the correct translation.

Jorge D. Dragon
May 16, 2012, 12:34 AM
The chapter was awesome. I would call it the best in FT in a while.:) Natsu is as he has always been. A hot-headed guy who cares for his friends and for everyone who betrays good people.:) He wants not only to kick Gemma's ass, but also show him that power isn't everything. I believe this shoiwcase will also change something in Sting and Rogue's way of thinking.
I'm really waiting for the next chapter. Even though I believe that Natsu will loose, but still I hope that he will inflict sufficient damage to the guy who seems to be the strongest in this guildf.

BlackHair
May 16, 2012, 04:24 AM
Best chapter in this arc as for yet. I normally dislike Natsu going all cocky thinking he can beat everyone and everything, but I welcome some serious action. Been a while since I felt like this, trembling with excitement, waiting for the next chapter.. I believe the last time I felt like this was right after Gildarts entered the stage, back in Tenrou arc. I just hope the next chapter continues on this weeks cliffhanger.

As for Yukino, I couldn't care a bit for her circumstances. Not since her cocky attitude in the tournament. I realize she was just putting an act to fit into the guild, but I don't like this "nakama" development. Its just too cheesy.

PS: I like Genma and his attitude.

THM Nindo
May 16, 2012, 11:45 AM
"You might have noticed this already, but... over the past several years, the number of Celestial (Stellar) Spirit Mages have dropped precipitously."

Is the correct translation.

That makes more sense.
Since, we actually know that there are very few Celestial Mages.

And it works with Arcadios reaction when he learned that there were 2 of them this year.

Marche
May 16, 2012, 12:35 PM
The first time I read the chapter I read it quickly so until Erza and Gray interaction I feel that the chapter was a little bit boring.
I really like their interaction, counting that Lluvia is my favourite Fairy Tail character.
I was sure that Gray liked Lluvia too, even I thought that he was not aware of it, and Leon would have make Gray understand this.
I thought this because otherwise if Lluvia would have seriously annoyed him, if she was a burden he would have say it clearly.
But after this chapter I have changed my mind, right now I believe that Gray really know that she loves Lluvia too, but he can’t say it, perhaps for pride or perhaps because would be too embarrassing for him.
I believe this because otherwise he would he would not be blushed.

Regarding Natsu after the last chapter I was sure that after knowing what happened to Yukino he would be angry, he would have tried to attack Sabertooth, but I thought that Wendy and Lucy would be able to stop him.

I really like that Lucy refuses Yukino request.
I believe that Yukino will participate to the contest as Mermaid Hell mages, I think this will happened if Obra will fight someone of Mermaid Hell.
He could fight as a tag team battle of the fourth day battle a member or Mermaid Hell, if in the third day we will have Erza vs Milliana.
But in the truth I hope that he will fight Milliana in the third day, while Erza could fight Minerva.
If he will fight Miliana (but there is the possibilities even in the tag team battle) he could sucked all her magical power, just like he did to Wendy.

Anyways after reading carefully the chaper I must say that I like even the first part.
From what Yukino says in this 7 years the Stellar spirit mages are decreased, then she says that after the Zentopia’s incident there is the possibilities that they are the only stellar spirit left.
I really believe that we will see this Zentopia’s incident in the anime’s filler, I think this because there was an imagine on the anime that really resemble the frame of the page of this chapter that this Zentopia’s incident.
Beside Yukino says that happened recently, and since the beginning of the time skip to the start of the tournament there is a gap of 3-4 months.

Jorge D. Dragon
May 18, 2012, 06:40 AM
I hope this chapter will focus on Natsu vs Genma fight. It might be a good oportunity to show how strong Natsu has gotten and also show the power of the strongest Guild's Master.
It's rather interesting to see what magic Genma uses. Hope noone will interrupt their fight.