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Charlie
May 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
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DarkLordOfKichiku
May 22, 2012, 06:51 PM
The cover for chapter 73 is up at the artist's blog:

http://blog.naver.com/tdstudio/100158664380

Hard to say who is is though. Sera...?

Oh, and toodlydo? I know that you may be impatient to post that the artist has posted the cover at the blog ( know that I am sometimes), but the rule around here is that stuff like that belongs in the spoiler thread and thus you should kindly ask a global moderator to unlock the spoiler thread for you and so that you can post it there.

NAM61
May 22, 2012, 08:06 PM
nice cover is it sera maybe she is getting ready to rescue shwoon if shwoon goes crazy it would be interesting if he accidentally hurts her

toodlydo
May 22, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oh, and toodlydo? I know that you may be impatient to post that the artist has posted the cover at the blog ( know that I am sometimes), but the rule around here is that stuff like that belongs in the spoiler thread and thus you should kindly ask a global moderator to unlock the spoiler thread for you and so that you can post it there.
Sorry about that. I had seen in the past that when the spoiler thread in locked, the users posted the cover page in the discussion thread. All the following comments on it were then moved to the thread by the mod. I guess that is not right. I have now deleted that post.

TheMoa
May 25, 2012, 12:51 AM
chapter is out
http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/16596

svyatoslav
May 25, 2012, 12:54 AM
So he gets saved by Sera.....lame...

TheMoa
May 25, 2012, 12:56 AM
lol... what's up with the kiss at the end?
mouth to mouth breath technique?

Anyway, I thought that the Sunwoo clan would storm the building, but Sera didn't inform them about Shioon situation

fistsofrage
May 25, 2012, 01:00 AM
Wasn't what I was expecting, but the ending was nice lol. If you think about how shion is in his boxers, the ending becomes even more impressive ^^

DarkLordOfKichiku
May 25, 2012, 01:07 AM
lol... what's up with the kiss at the end?
mouth to mouth breath technique?

Maybe that and some sort of ki-transfer technique?


Anyway, I thought that the Sunwoo clan would storm the building, but Sera didn't inform them about Shioon situation

Hmm, will be interesting WHY she choose not to, in that case. Maybe she aims to just grab Shioon and leave? Either that, or she just want to secure him before the frontal assault comes (otherwise it might end up being a hostage situation again)?

Edit: Oh, yeah, and you guys notice something? Those two guys in the car are those guys Shioon accidentally beat up back in Part 1 :D

bighawke5
May 25, 2012, 01:21 AM
well as i predicted. Looks like she's trying to both win brownie points and redeem herself.
Plus telling the sunwoo clan and letting them handle it would have taken far too long. She's efficient enough. I can see cool guy stepping in and her struggling against him, then shioon(like he said he would do for her as well when he was going to save jinie) will step in to save her this time.

My guess is this time it'll be a stalemate(since cool guy wont be underestimating him this time, but then again shioon's grown and might have residuals of that pure ki) with neither getting the upper hand. Cool will realize how much shioon's grown again and it'll trigger that same feeling hyuuk had for shioon and turn him/make him question his alliances. or something as corny as that :)

I bet shioon uses a new move too. in any case he'll be carried out of that warehouse by Sera. i bet he'll feint after dealing with cool guy...

ps: fuck that doctor guy...dude needs to get plowed in the face

LoS
May 25, 2012, 01:44 AM
Im kinda disappointed. I was hoping to see more new faces fighting as far as the break out goes. All we have seen is Cool Guy and some SUC skelleton hoodie fodders. I really don't even want to see Cool Guy fight again, not this shortly after we just saw him thats for sure.

GOOMOONRYONG
May 25, 2012, 01:55 AM
Ooooo kissy kissy

tayrin
May 25, 2012, 02:31 AM
I can see the black threshhold coming. I really think he will go berserk next chapter.

4ghost
May 25, 2012, 02:54 AM
With it not being translated yet, we still don't know a lot. However I'm pretty sure of one thing, matzik1212 is going to be pissed with this development.

LoS
May 25, 2012, 02:59 AM
Why would he go berserk after getting kissed on the lips by Sera?

4ghost
May 25, 2012, 03:07 AM
I don't wanna see Shioon being saved by Sera :-_- I mean yeah in a way she is doing what she's doing for Shioon's sake but i don't wanna see her personally showing up there to his rescue . It would suck from my point of view .

Elder Kwon for the rescue :shin :hee

I honestly don't know whether she will be pissed or not, but it certainly wasn't her preference to have Sera save Shioon. She really dislikes Sera's character.

svyatoslav
May 25, 2012, 03:15 AM
Is the 2nd strongest clan in the murim really that lame, incompetent and stupid? Is harassing a dumb naive kid all the SunWoo are capable off?

TheMoa
May 25, 2012, 03:15 AM
Why would he go berserk after getting kissed on the lips by Sera?

cuz his lips are for Hyuk and Hyuk only :teehee

english scan is out
http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86263_

halfcrzy
May 25, 2012, 03:33 AM
Hahaha part of me feels that she already unplugged him and he will be safe. She just wanted the kiss >.>

LoS
May 25, 2012, 03:48 AM
So we are to believe that Shioon has filled up a little over 7 pints of blood, according to those filled bags. A body his size only has around 9-10 pints total. Can we say, uhhhhh bullcrap?

DarkLordOfKichiku
May 25, 2012, 03:55 AM
So we are to believe that Shioon has filled up a little over 7 pints of blood, according to those filled bags. A body his size only has around 9-10 pints total. Can we say, uhhhhh bullcrap?

Keep in mind that this is also a story where the main character can, say, take several lethal blows to the head and STILL be fine :p . Realism tends to get the second seat at best in fiction, if you haven't noticed ;)

tayrin
May 25, 2012, 04:01 AM
I guess I should have been a little more detailed in my thoughts. I don't think the kiss has anything to do with why I believe he will go berserk. I think a fight will occur, and in his state he will loose control and go berserk. At least thats what I hope will happen, mainly because I am sick of the weak pathetic looser Shiwoon has become and I really want to see a rampage.

nanoclarkology
May 25, 2012, 04:15 AM
I don't mind the kiss and Sera is efficient. Whoever mentioned a possible mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and/or ki transfer is possible too. We know that Shiho was able by putting hands on his back maybe a more efficient one is through the mouth. I like the fact that one of the female characters has finally after how many chapters made mouth contact with Shioon.

Maybe just maybe the after effect of Shioons blood being drawn will cure his ki center. Maybe that is what is needed to make the broken pieces flow together. As for hobo doc he needs to die. I don't really have a prediction yet.....

Monsterguy
May 25, 2012, 04:29 AM
Well, I was kind of disappointed about the part how Shioon has ended on that chair, where he would be dissected and not been able to save himself.

Actually, I wanted for Shioon to save himself, on his own !!!

I was hopping that right in the biggest despair, on the chair when hearing about his mom, Shioon would perform an unbelievable act !!!

Something as, perform "Black Heaven and Earth Technique" and phenix cry when in that condition.

Like this Shioon would destroy the whole building (and scare the shit out of the people who kidnapped him), but right before killing the first person (the doc), Shioon would half consciously in meditation come to his senses remembering GMR's words not to drown in lust to kill (http://www.mangareader.net/530-30473-16/the-breaker/chapter-19.html), and at that time Shunwoo clan would come start cleaning all the mess, so all Shioon would do is turn his back to the doc and be determined to crush SUC as well as all people behind it, what would later lead him to Black Forest Defence Group, thuz helping and saving also his master, GMR.




Oh well, although a little disappointed in the curse the author took, I must say I definitly didn't anticipate this kind of development a few weeks ago.

About Shioon being saved again, I will only say that to me it seems this is author's favorite kind of turn around.

But because I really didn't expect this kind of development, and because the art is incredibly good along with complicated story that is hard to find in mangas/manhwas, I'm giving it another chance.

[hr]

Heh, I gess it must be that the author tries to show us all events as close to reality as possible, and if it's this way I believe he did it successfully.

If this is the case this must be the turning point in the story, where any person needs somebody to support him in his life, so that he/she does not "go nuts" in a world we live in...:p

PS: Generally speaking, life is cruel on it's own, but with somebody like your family or your partner supporting you along the way, it becomes almost heaven...:)

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With it not being translated yet, we still don't know a lot. However I'm pretty sure of one thing, matzik1212 is going to be pissed with this development.

hehehe, I had to laugh at this one...:teehee

*sorry

S-H-I-G-U-R-E
May 25, 2012, 04:50 AM
WORST CHAPTER EVER! I'm really disappointed!

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Why would he go berserk after getting kissed on the lips by Sera?

Well... I would. With her XD

Too bad the blood loss would prevent me from... well, you know...

The_kid
May 25, 2012, 04:58 AM
WORST CHAPTER EVER! I'm really disappointed!

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Well... I would. With her XD

Too bad the blood loss would prevent me from... well, you know...

Lol, how did she got past Cool Guy?

Monsterguy
May 25, 2012, 05:02 AM
WORST CHAPTER EVER! I'm really disappointed!

if you ask me, chapters 71 and 72 were totally the bottom (worst chapters), but looking at the author's style how he writes the breaker story, this is his own way of solving things

well if you ask me, I'm totally fine with this chapter, why my hottest girl is in it, and my eyeballs almost fell out when seeing her in that sexy outfit...:cheez

I was almost like:
Sera, I love you !!!

But, with the last scene/page my world started to crumble...:fail

The_kid
May 25, 2012, 05:12 AM
Sera scores first ;)
Either way i was thinking after this Shion receives more pills and is able to practice even more martial arts.
But before it happens who takes out Cool guy?
It'll be too hard for Sera alone, i guess due to the bloodloss Shion is unable to stand properly.

Shion developing Sera feelings... hmm interesting...
At the other hand i might've heard somewhere fangirl-screams lol like (kyaaaa) xD

haegar
May 25, 2012, 06:30 AM
GRRR. cliffhanger alarm :/

ah but Sera looks sooooo smexy in several panels that makes up for it :D
as for chapter end, so what this blackness signify now? loss of consciousness and being saved or loss of conciousness and entering threshold state? Which brings me back to "GRRR CLIFFHANGER" ...
my gut feeling: Sera lookin so hot points to her rescuing him rather than him letting loose - this is getting kinda harem style slowly with all the girls falling for him and moving heaven and earth to save him XD

edit: wait, kissy kissy? think I wrongly assumed the double page was end of chap - she saves him, lemme read the rest quickly :facepalm

eh? I just missed last page it seems ... well, still cliffhanger though, will she wake him up in time? My guess is it is a KI transfer Kiss - and of course she couldn't resist the opportunity :D - me thinks he'd rather need a blood transfusion than Ki transfer though in order to fight? that blood bone asshole bleed him pretty much dry :/

braveheart655
May 25, 2012, 07:34 AM
Overall, not a bad chapter.

- It's possible that Cool guy just let Sera slide this time to help her save Shioon's life without disobeying a direct order.
- Sera is definitely doing something medically relevant (whether it's mouth to mouth or Ki transfer). She's not as impulsive as Jinie and I'd be very surprised if it was just a kiss.
- It's getting pretty boring when somebody is in danger, they're saved just on the verge of death. With this cliffhanger, I'd expect Shioon developing stronger feelings towards Sera (like it's happened to Jinie after she was saved by Shioon).
- I think it'd be better to see Shioon experience a little bit of Black Origin Threshold before he got the kiss. That way, we could see Shioon going directly for the BOT instead of learning all those techniques. In the end if his goal is BOT, learning the other techniques might just be a waste of time (except for making him physically stronger).
- I'm sure the Ilwulmoon guy is gonna put all that blood into a good use. The blood is gonna revive Shiho & Shioon's mother and possibly give rise to a better (utilizable) formulation of the Dan.
- The next 1 or 2 chapters we'll see some fighting sequences and the end of this arc. We'll have a short timeskip (of couple of weeks) and see Shioon wake up in a hospital bed (possibly after a medically induced coma). During this timeskip, Ilwulmoon guy could prepare a pill with the permanent effects of the evil medicine. It'd be great to see that the documents the Doc explains help him with the creation of the new pill.

haegar
May 25, 2012, 07:44 AM
manga inn and here have the translation up. having read that I am inclined to believe it might not be a KI transfer but rather she is kissing him in order to stop him from slipping down into death at the last moment. Having read they already extracted all blood except for "maybe one more bag" he will definetely need some of his blood back in order to fight together with Sera. The next thing she ought to do is begin transfusing his blood back. The snag with that being it is in MANY bags, so she will have to switch them out one by one - this might make for a very interesting fight as soon as she is found out: she'll have to fight, switch bag, fight on, switch bag, fight etc ... it's prly gonna end with her going down and him having enough blood back to join the fight and save her just then.
Interesting info from trans is that she even used this opportunity to gain some leverage with Munju: not sure if she did it this way only to make 100% sure he cooperates or if she actually intended to use this for some gain for her clan along the way - doubt it though. It seems clear now she left Sun-Woo out of the loop to make sure the bad guys don't get tipped of via a strong assault, choosing infiltration herself to increase Shionn's chances of survival...

NAM61
May 25, 2012, 07:58 AM
poor shwoon he was drained. at the end luckly he got a kiss from sera. wonder if she did this to pass ki to him or just as snowhite to wake him. i figured she would leave the sunwoo out the loop becuse they would probably all go and start a war. this was a black opps mission. if he did not save himself i knew sera would br the one so she could redeem herself.

braveheart655
May 25, 2012, 08:01 AM
@haegar
I don't think it was just a kiss as it wouldn't fit Sera's personality to go for just a kiss without doing medically relevant procedures. Also I don't think Shioon or Sera will have to fight since there are not so many SUC guys around and they've brought some fighting power to take care of the SUC guys. Also, I think that Shioon just have to lay low to replenish his blood and furthermore all that blood can help to revive Shiho and Shioon's mother. So, I don't think all of that blood will be transfused back to Shioon.

Jammin
May 25, 2012, 08:50 AM
Haha, In this chapter Sera takes on the role of "The Prince" and Shioon gets to play "Sleeping Beauty"; I LOVE IT!

Sera to the freakin' rescue!http://www.laymark.com/l/o/63.gif

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Yeah, Yeah, I realize that the kiss was probably a part of some restorative technique or her force feeding him some medicine by cramming it down his throat...with her tongue (which is awesome in and of itself); but I have no intention of letting reality ruin my moment.:hee

The_kid
May 25, 2012, 08:59 AM
Retransfusion huh, haha... i don't think she will get that luxury, Cool Guy isn't some noob you could fight against with half-assed attitude.
Also i haven't seen much of Mil-yang offensive style, until now only deflection and defensive style of martial arts.
Either way makes one wonder how he is going to get outof this one, hmm Supernova to the rescue? Maybe xD

Miracleomatic
May 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
Thumbs up for Sera. Always to the rescue. This pretty much beefens up her resume for the spouse job haha. Uhhh tears!! There to help you train. There to provide you drugs. There to keep your mother away from you. There to bring you back to life. T_T.
It would be nice to actually see her fight for once though. Also hopefully Shiwoon gets to keep that high grade ki just like Gangryong from Veritas. Quality over quantity :).

Jammin
May 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
Retransfusion huh, haha... i don't think she will get that luxury, Cool Guy isn't some noob you could fight against with half-assed attitude.
Also i haven't seen much of Mil-yang offensive style, until now only deflection and defensive style of martial arts.
Either way makes one wonder how he is going to get outof this one, hmm Supernova to the rescue? Maybe xD Do not underestimate a grappler. She's a student of the yoda-lady that sent GMR flying through the air. I don't really know what Sera is fully capable of but for all we know she could turn out to be like Madoka from Veritas.


First of all, shame on you.

Madoka was basically the ideal grappler. If she got a good grip on somebody the fight was over because she would essentially twirl them around and throw/slam continuously until she decided to let go. For this reason people would almost never dare to shake her hand.

Besides she's empowered by LOVE!http://www.laymark.com/l/o/22.gif

Freid
May 25, 2012, 11:43 AM
Yeah, I get the impression that Sera's a hell of a fighter. I think she'd be just fine...On another note, not only did Sera rescue Shiwoon, she also rescued the chapter for me. I swear, I couldn't tell y'all how annoyed I was at the state of Shiwoon.....But then that kiss came at the end. Dam, I'm a sucker for romance in manga. Good job, Sera http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-022.gif?1292792384

matzik1212
May 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
I honestly don't know whether she will be pissed or not, but it certainly wasn't her preference to have Sera save Shioon. She really dislikes Sera's character.

:XD Hi

Yeah i'm pissed . How can she kiss Shioon :shin

I was like WTF with this chapter . I seriously couldn't believe when i saw how much blood the psycho doc took from Shioon . If this were reality i doubt Shioon could be saved . It was really a horrible sight, for me at least, to see something like that . Trust me i waited for a bit before continuing to read the chapter :crying

And it would have been better if the things were different , regarding saving Shioon i mean . I hope we'll see some badass Sunwonn clan fighter coming to their rescue :blai .
Now i don't understand a thing ..why did Sera have to kiss Shioon huh? :yelling . I mean save the dude woman and harass him later . He's on the verge of dying for god's sake .

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hehehe, I had to laugh at this one...:teehee

*sorry


Yeah :3c

Hmm course i'm mad i wanna kill that woman for harassing my Shioon . Why did she have to do that huh http://www.laymark.com/l/o/38.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

shaheer
May 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
Too predictable apart from the last page :3c
i remember scav nd me terming it as "Girl squad saving him again". the last page was a surprise (regardless of the reason for that:p)
i wish shiwoon would get strong to protect himself and others rather than doing one out of the 2 and leaving others to save him up.
i suppose he ll get back some of his blood and we might see both of them in action
i wonder if there are any other heads of SUC in the facility
that way we ll see some serious action
hey that comment of the doc being similar to GMR is hitting me is it possible that the SUC is using him as a look alike and tweaking the voice in the vids to make it look like GMR is leading them and thus get that much support?

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now that i think back i think it was too obvious that it would be sera who would rescue shiwoon i mean shinwoo had this mental pressure thing against sera and there was some sort of friction between them both
judging by the NW the author is really aiming for a harem so i doubt that he would let any one girl have the upper hand by making the otehr be distant from shiwoon
but this thing is an epic leap for sea and shiwoo relationship bank on that one fellas

Jammin
May 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
:XD Hi

Yeah i'm pissed . How can she kiss Shioon :shin

I was like WTF with this chapter . I seriously couldn't believe when i saw how much blood the psycho doc took from Shioon . If this were reality i doubt Shioon could be saved . It was really a horrible sight, for me at least, to see something like that . Trust me i waited for a bit before continuing to read the chapter :crying

And it would have been better if the things were different , regarding saving Shioon i mean . I hope we'll see some badass Sunwonn clan fighter coming to their rescue :blai .
Now i don't understand a thing ..why did Sera have to kiss Shioon huh? :yelling . I mean save the dude woman and harass him later . He's on the verge of dying for god's sake .

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Yeah :3c

Hmm course i'm mad i wanna kill that woman for harassing my Shioon . Why did she have to do that huh http://www.laymark.com/l/o/38.gif (http://www.laymark.com) Haven't you ever heard "Love is the best medicine."? It's a total gender reversed Snow White moment!

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I realize this kiss is a dagger to the heart to any holding a grudge against Sera for the whole keeping Shioon's mother's condition from him. But look at it this way if you needed proof she really was motivated at least in part by Shioon's best interests, just look at what's going on her. It is absolutely for Shioon's sake she is going all kissing-commando here. If not for her, that creepy doctor would probably be loading him into some form of giant juicer right now.

If not for her he would literally be dead. I think she's earned a full pardon, don't you?

matzik1212
May 25, 2012, 02:45 PM
Don't you understand that i'm being jealous here http://www.laymark.com/l/o/81.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

Now on the serious business i just don't like her character . And i didn't wanna see Shioon being saved by her . It would have been more , i don't know , amazing seeing the Sunwoo clan mobilize and rescue their gaju . :nod And if we were to take into account that Gyu Bum is kinda guilty here for letting Shioon do whatever he wanted and thus this kind of situation appeared then here's another reason to why Sunwoo clan should have done the rescuing and not this expressionless woman :hmph

NAM61
May 25, 2012, 04:04 PM
the sunwoo clan would have gotten shwoon killed they would have attacked the whole compound guns a blazing well fists a blazing and the doctor would have trued to move shwoon there were probably way to escape without being noticed. this was a one women job plus this was done to redeem herself in shwoons eyes. she had the opportunity to save him and she did it without thinking. i like this i want to see her fight she is the head of a clan she should be a great fighter. i actually did not really like her before this chapter she shows she cares for shwoon and will try anything to save him. plus i think the hair in a poney tail looks good.

OneAndOnly
May 25, 2012, 04:36 PM
Awww... Im just so disappointed:no . Firstly becouse Shioon couldnt do anything in the end, and he became really usless person in this manhwa. Secondly becouse he had to be rescued by Sera. Why the hell does he have guards like Supernova or Elder Kwon upton him?! This is a plot hole... Sera had time to: travel to that guy loving Siho, -> plan all the action -> argue with this guy -> plan rescuing Shioon -> travel to Shioon capturing place -> rescuing him, And Supernova did nothing in such a long time?! It's ridiculous! Thirdly, how could this girl kiss him in the end?! No no no no ! Only Jinnie!:hip

Ah yes, is it only me or anyone else can see that Sera kissing him ( and waking him up ) is quite similar to Siho waking up 9AD while he was fighting MA head at rooftop?

Charlie
May 25, 2012, 06:30 PM
Darn so the doc ran away with the blood he stole - I was somehow hoping that Shiwoon would get back the refined or purified blood back into his body. Guess that was a long shot of a chance. Seras kiss on the last page is the mystery question. Surely it cant be some ordinary kiss. She must have inserted something into him with it.

kidopitz27
May 25, 2012, 06:39 PM
i think what will happen is the head of One Moon will get all the blood after the rescue and use it for Shiho and then the answer for fixing Shioons KI center is a kiss :) but the kiss must be like what Shiho is doing like transfer of other ki :) (a funny prediction though:))

toodlydo
May 25, 2012, 09:38 PM
I am not so sure that it is KI transfer technique. The reason I am saying that is because it does not make much of sense.

Shioon is apparently, through the confession of the doctor himself, in a state where he has the purest form of KI running through his body. The thing that is killing him is not the lack of KI, but the lack of blood. Bags of Shioon's blood is seen in a box in one of the pages. The doctor himself said that his is going to harvest the skin and flesh next. Wouldn't it be easier to do that when there is no blood left to bleed ?

I think the kiss would be some type of skill used by her clan since her clan seems to have skills used with touch. Remember her grandma treating shioon. Granted the KI has something to do with the skills, but the transfer of it to a person with the purest KI seems quite absurd. Obviously, I could also be dead wrong.

Asvard
May 25, 2012, 10:30 PM
LoL sleeping princess(Shioon) wake up with kiss from the prince(Sera) :^_^

shaheer
May 26, 2012, 12:42 AM
LoL sleeping princess(Shioon) wake up with kiss from the prince(Sera) :^_^
:D feminist are redefining the fairy tales :p(no offense intended to any one)
i would love it if shiwoon manages to revive his ki now by some bizarre means. He has learned a think or two abt BHT during the short interlude using the medicine and he has been doing some physical training as well
would love to see some outcome

nanoclarkology
May 26, 2012, 03:13 AM
I just had this crazy thought. What if the answer to the ki center problem is Shiho? I mean the crazy resurrection doc succeeds with Shioons blood. Shiho is now alive and talks with Shioon. Then she states well why don't we fix that ki center. Or how about a ki center transplant from Shiho? That way those who want the dead to remain dead are happy. And those of us that want Shioons ki center healed wouldbe happy.

Askmeabout
May 26, 2012, 03:40 AM
This is a story of a girl who kissed a guy wearing nothing but boxers with a ball gag on his mouth..

Am I the only one who thinks the author needs to take a break?

kidopitz27
May 26, 2012, 04:20 AM
ok i think what will happen is after the kiss Cool guy will show up and Sera will put a fighting stance while Shioon's vision is blurry he can see Sera getting beaten and gets more angrier and BHT will happen :) a big Deja vu from the breaker PART 1

and after that One moon school head will get the blood of Shioon and i think One moon school head learns what is Shioons secret and use those blood for Shiho

Monsterguy
May 26, 2012, 04:52 AM
Awww... Im just so disappointed:no . Firstly becouse Shioon couldnt do anything in the end, and he became really usless person in this manhwa.

This, I totally agree...:hmph

Secondly becouse he had to be rescued by Sera.

I truly would not mind being saved by Sera if I would be Shioon, but I must say I, myself was also disappointed that Shioon was/is so useless, not even able to do anything and "save himself, if needed".

Well, on the other hand, I see this like this:
untill now Shioon was always only saving other people putting his own life on the line, but now when he was in a pinch, he was saved himself...;)

Why the hell does he have guards like Supernova or Elder Kwon upton him?!

So they can be his butlers...:XD

No seriously they tried to look for Shioon(Yi Gyu-Bum contacted/asked Yoo Ji-Gun and Jinie if they knew anything), but they were not able to find him without even a correct clue to begin with and to know where to start looking for him !!!
True they are strong on their own, but in my eyes they were all useless to Shioon, untill now...:facepalm

This is a plot hole... Sera had time to: travel to that guy loving Siho, -> plan all the action -> argue with this guy -> plan rescuing Shioon -> travel to Shioon capturing place -> rescuing him, And Supernova did nothing in such a long time?! It's ridiculous!

If you read carefuly you know Sera send her people after the doc, way way back to observe his movements !!!

It's like Sera would have security camera upon the doc, so all she needed to do is create a plan, knowing and including all the facts.

Traveling to Shioon is also explained, she did not need time for anything, why she just tagged along with a guy from Ilwulmoon (sorry I don't remember his name) !!!

Thirdly, how could this girl kiss him in the end?!

That's...

even if I myself would be dead, I would definitly come back to "life", when kissed by a girl as beautiful as Sera...:yelling

I see this as an action for Shioon "only" not to fall in coma(:fail), why if he would fall in coma, than it would get complicated and he would have a hard time or better to say much less chances to come "back" out of coma with such a major blood loss, which caused shock to his body, including the drugs he was given (I'm not a doctor, but this much even I learned with first aid !!!).

No no no no ! Only Jinnie!:hip

naughty, naughty boy you are suggesting harem ???
(well, I wouldn't mind...:p)

Seriously:
Well, I guess you like Jinie more than Sera, but as for me Sera is way more sexy...:XD

Ah yes, is it only me or anyone else can see that Sera kissing him ( and waking him up ) is quite similar to Siho waking up 9AD while he was fighting MA head at rooftop?

As I already mentioned the author loves doing this kind of turn arounds in the story. If I admit it, it's true that nobody(exception for the story: the author) never knows when/what to expect in such situations, why a person in coma can be once saved, and the other time not, what applies also to reallity !!!


This is my opinion...:)

haegar
May 26, 2012, 09:33 AM
This is a story of a girl who kissed a guy wearing nothing but boxers with a ball gag on his mouth..

while one might argue this is a pretty much accurate (chapter) summary, ...


Am I the only one who thinks the author needs to take a break?

so is this it seems, at least I haven't read many posts along the lines of this chapter being total failure, neither here nor on other forums :p

matzik1212
May 26, 2012, 01:26 PM
I just had this crazy thought. What if the answer to the ki center problem is Shiho? I mean the crazy resurrection doc succeeds with Shioons blood. Shiho is now alive and talks with Shioon. Then she states well why don't we fix that ki center. Or how about a ki center transplant from Shiho? That way those who want the dead to remain dead are happy. And those of us that want Shioons ki center healed wouldbe happy.

Don't you think it would be more logical if they get all that freaking blood back in Shioon's body 'cause it's not like he can still live without all that blood that's been taken from him . They could use a bag to try to revive Shiho but more than that i don't see it being possible . I know this is a manhwa but still Shioon need all his blood back . The guy is on the verge of dying :yelling

And about Shioon receiving Shiho's Ki center . I don't think if she can be saved that would be an option . She is a Murimin so there's no way she would give her Ki center to Shioon now is it . ;)

OneAndOnly
May 26, 2012, 01:31 PM
If you read carefuly you know Sera send her people after the doc, way way back to observe his movements !!!

It's like Sera would have security camera upon the doc, so all she needed to do is create a plan, knowing and including all the facts.

Traveling to Shioon is also explained, she did not need time for anything, why she just tagged along with a guy from Ilwulmoon (sorry I don't remember his name) !!!

1: Well i dont remember as well ;) ...
2: ...but Yi Gyu-Bum asked if they know anything, and it's ridiculous that Jinnie and Yoo Ji-Gun didn't told him anything about their phone to Sera. Its' just.... playing with Shioons lifne in game that Sera made. And again, she had to take some time to travel with that Ilwumoon guy, but ok correcting my way if thinking with Your way of understanding it it shorteness all the time to rescure Shion for few hours, but... it's still a lot.
3. About Jinie:derp I like redheads personally, but there's a big plan in my head! How but Shion and Jinie became a marraige :derp This way Shion would be undeniable Sun-Woo Clan head:zomg Of course it's not trully possible, but sounds cool for me.

Now I'm just trying to bring back to my head names of : Seras Clan, and Shihos Clan. Anyone remeber it?

Oh yeah Matzik: what if Shion dont need all of his blood back? Just think, his body has an enormous ability of regeneration, what if he already recovered enogh blood cells to stay alive? Just think about how much blood he had lost while: he was fighting Hyuk, he was being crashed by cycling gang while rescuing lady sosul ( he was beign pulled after a motocycle afterall... ). And... its just manhwa right? He can have sucha a thing. I think...

nanoclarkology
May 26, 2012, 03:38 PM
@matzik1212: When I made my post it was 2am my time I was very tired rereading it I don't think I was very clear.

While I agree 100% about Shioons blood needing to flow back into him. I don't discount him having Wolverine like healing abilities and he is regenerating blood. Like what OneandOnly said above.

I also recognize that if Shiho is not brought back. That maybe there is such a thing a a ki center transplant. I doubt it but it came to me in my sleep stupor. And for some reason all of Shioons blood being drawn from his body. It reminds me of when Magneto pulled all of the bones out of Wolverines body and he was on the cusp of dieing when Jean Grey saved him. Sorta! I know dumb X-men analogies. But Wolverine and Hulk are the most famous quick healing characters I can think of.

As for Manga Characters who heal fast .....I don't think i have read that many. (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach(forgot his name), Natsu, Kenichi, Goku, etc etc) the healing regenerative traits yes each of them has some ability to heal fast. But this is an obviously different setting than the very magical (Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Natsu, Goku) Kenich is kind of relevant to real life. But still the point stands IMO that Hulk and Wolverine are the two most common/famous characters with healing abilities.

Ok, that aside. On the second to last panel when Shioon is asleep/dead. Who knows how long. It kind of doesn't give us an idea of time. For those that question the cpr. It might be possible that Sera has already reversed the flow of blood into Shioon. Just saying I can't say absolutely it is not possible.

NAM61
May 26, 2012, 04:06 PM
after the kiss it seems shwoon was waking up maybe she already started giving his his blood back and kissed him to give him some ki or something to heal him did her clan came up with a way to make pills like the evil doctor and gave then to shwoon. maybe her clan also has greet doctor or specialize in healing techs or something

Charlie
May 26, 2012, 05:21 PM
I kind of wished the chapter would not have ended so quickly, I mean Shiwoon still had some pulse iirc and he was fading into black /dark thought. I thought before the chapter ended with the kiss part, that he would somehow awaken his powers.

Monsterguy
May 26, 2012, 07:35 PM
1: Well i dont remember as well ;) ...
2: ...but Yi Gyu-Bum asked if they know anything, and it's ridiculous that Jinnie and Yoo Ji-Gun didn't told him anything about their phone to Sera. Its' just.... playing with Shioons lifne in game that Sera made. And again, she had to take some time to travel with that Ilwumoon guy, but ok correcting my way if thinking with Your way of understanding it it shorteness all the time to rescure Shion for few hours, but... it's still a lot.

I believe that Jinie and Yoo Ji-Gun did not know what is going on, with only getting a few hints that they got from Sera (about GMR and intentions of SUC), so connecting this with no proof to disappearance of Shioon...:nerd

They totally failed to connect it, so they forgot to mention it to Yi Gyu-Bum !!!

Well it's simple for us who are reading the "whole" story, but put yourself in their skin, I could definitly miss it too...:XD



About time, I agree it's hard to tell with a comic !!!




Now I'm just trying to bring back to my head names of : Seras Clan, and Shihos Clan. Anyone remeber it?


I know that Sera is from "Mil-Yang School", but I don't know about Shiho. 


I kind of wished the chapter would not have ended so quickly, I mean Shiwoon still had some pulse iirc and he was fading into black /dark thought. I thought before the chapter ended with the kiss part, that he would somehow awaken his powers.

I was also thinking the exact same thing...:zomg

It would be amazing, if Shioon would go in to Black Origin Threshold, and annihilate all those bad SUC guys...:3c

*although, unlikely to happen

NAM61
May 26, 2012, 07:42 PM
shiho was part of the Heavenly Maiden School

blaise
May 26, 2012, 09:27 PM
I look forward to the day when I will complain that shioon's being too badass. I want as many chapters of ownage as we have of his miserable performances.
If all that purified blood returns to shioon, I also believe it will accelerate his already powerful healing factor. Maybe restore his Ki center like some suggested.

haegar
May 27, 2012, 05:34 AM
Oh yeah Matzik: what if Shion dont need all of his blood back? Just think, his body has an enormous ability of regeneration, what if he already recovered enogh blood cells to stay alive? Just think about how much blood he had lost while: he was fighting Hyuk, he was being crashed by cycling gang while rescuing lady sosul ( he was beign pulled after a motocycle afterall... ). And... its just manhwa right? He can have sucha a thing. I think...

While it is "just manwha" and his healing abilities are top notch compared to the rest of the breaker verse him not needing the blood back would kinda make him a "Star Trek replicator" if you will: It is one thing to quick heal damaged tissue and bones, it is another to produce 3 liters of blood out of nothing. At the very least, he'd have to drink 3 liters of water or whaterver liquid he then quick-converts to blood - to retain at least a semblance of realism. As for that, so far I feel breaker went beyond realism mainly in terms of techniques, fight endurance, pain threshold and the effectivness of spirit medicines. But to me being able to regenerate blood out of nothing or fighting with 1 liter of blood in your body where it should be 5 would be going that one step too far XD At the very least I want Sera to re-transfuse him one or two baggies. If he goes apeshit with no returned blood whatsoever... smh.


If all that purified blood returns to shioon, I also believe it will accelerate his already powerful healing factor. Maybe restore his Ki center like some suggested. Since the Ilwolmoon guy got written into this I think it is highly likely it will take his assistance to get Shioon back up adn running at 100%, mentioning him a question btw:

I really adore Shiho - but let's face it she was/is pretty much dead. Her having some remnant of Shionn's Ki from the transfer at end of breaker1 is the only thing that could be argued in favor of her being still in a state she can return from. HOw you folks feel about realism with regard to that? I am fairly positive she WILL be brought back, and it will open nice plot options with regard to 9AD and it will bring back one of my favorit characters, still I keep my fingers crossed this will not feel awkwardly executed when it happens. Generally I am a bit sceptical about resurections... what say you?

blaise
May 27, 2012, 12:37 PM
I have great faith in this author. Not only does this story appeal to me, but he handles his characters in very refreshing and multidimensional ways. That is why I am willing to brave through this irritating version of shioon because I have seen first hand (the Breaker) what the author is capable of story wise.

@haegar
If there is anyone that can weave resurrections into plot fluently its this author. I am very fond of Shiho's character like you. I believe that she is being resurrected expressly for the purpose of redeeming GMR. If not then I fear one of the things to consider is a deathmatch between shioon and his sungsenim. I DO NOT want that happening. But only shioon and/or shiho can can sort this mess out.

Finally, Sera has some medical expertise doesn't she? I'm no doctor but a generally good rule of thumb is people tend not to function well when multiple bags of blood are siphoned from their bodies. So I feel comfortable saying that Sera will probably return most (if not all) of the purified blood back to shioon. I also think, like a lot of you, that some of that blood will find its way to shiho. Maybe through a deal between shioon and the ilwoolmun doc.

haegar
May 27, 2012, 12:51 PM
Shioon would certainly gladly give some of his blood for Shiho, even without a deal / return gift, agreed. And yeah, you are right, I should trust the author more, he did well so far with the plot execution and one gets the reassuring feeling that a lot of the plot is being planned in advance - though maybe the question at hand for me is not the skills in handling the plot but the choices he makes about just how far the non-realist elements will go, that is subjective matter though ;)

blaise
May 27, 2012, 03:16 PM
I didn't mean to preach. I just think this author is one of the more skilled ones. Please feel free to differ:).

Any ideas on what those secret documents that the two doctors were discussing were about? The ones that Bae seung Jae said possessed blood and bone clan's secret information.

I can't help but feel that there is info about the inner workings of spirit/devil/divine meds in them.

matzik1212
May 27, 2012, 03:47 PM
Oh yeah Matzik: what if Shion dont need all of his blood back? Just think, his body has an enormous ability of regeneration, what if he already recovered enogh blood cells to stay alive? Just think about how much blood he had lost while: he was fighting Hyuk, he was being crashed by cycling gang while rescuing lady sosul ( he was beign pulled after a motocycle afterall... ). And... its just manhwa right? He can have sucha a thing. I think...

Yeah but still you saw how much blood he took from him right . Even though this is a manhwa and things can be exaggerated i think a regeneration would be too much . That crazy doc even said little more and that's about how much he could get from him and then said he'll go dissecting him (poor thing http://www.laymark.com/l/o/75.gif (http://www.laymark.com)) to harvest his skin and muscles . This makes me think he'll die if a mass blood transfusion isn't made ASAP. :iik

About his fights . I can see your point but still the situation now is very different . I mean there's no way right now can compare with back then . Now he has almost all of his blood out of his body and i can't see how that much blood like about 7 packs as we saw in the chap can regenerate just like that :^_^


P.S. Please ignore my sig everyone . I'm in a pitiful state atm. I'm a victim http://www.laymark.com/l/o/79.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

Monsterguy
May 28, 2012, 03:41 AM
About his fights . I can see your point but still the situation now is very different . I mean there's no way right now can compare with back then . Now he has almost all of his blood out of his body and i can't see how that much blood like about 7 packs as we saw in the chap can regenerate just like that :^_^


It could be that those bags have small capacity/volume, and the drug Shioon was given, by doc, is keeping him alive...:hee

[hr]


P.S. Please ignore my sig everyone .

"I can't ignore it", this picture is almost the first thing that my eyes notice (it stands out the most !!!), my inner world gets another "crack" each time I see it, and soon it will be completely destroyed and nothing but ruins are gonna be left...:3c

You are torturing me, with this signature, change it...:yelling

Why was it not Jinie instead of Sera, seriously I envy you Shioon...:amuse

PS: My city lacks women (!!!), there are 2 times more boys than girls, I gess I will have to "relocate myself" to where Shioon is...:s

*this post really is half true, half joke...:fail*

haegar
May 28, 2012, 06:26 AM
I didn't mean to preach. I just think this author is one of the more skilled ones. Please feel free to differ:).
no worries didn't take it as preaching at all. Don't differ much either XD


Any ideas on what those secret documents that the two doctors were discussing were about? The ones that Bae seung Jae said possessed blood and bone clan's secret information.

I can't help but feel that there is info about the inner workings of spirit/devil/divine meds in them.
Probably something along those lines. I find in an interesting question in how far the Ilwolmoon and Blood&Bones medical techniques differ, one would assume it's kinda a bit like light and dark side of the force - what's the Ilwolmoon's name again, Mun something? (It's really embarassing how I cannot well remember the names despite really digging this manwha, maybe it's cause I am not used to the korean names? I had trouble remembering japanese ones when first tking up manga, too. Forgive me plz :)) Anyways, the Ilwolmoon doc clearly was willing to "cross to the dark side" to rescue Shiho, I wonder, he should have learned his lesson from these events... but then again, mainly he asked to have something plausible to talk about, though I wouldn't be suprised if some interesting tidbit of info springs of this at some time ...


P.S. Please ignore my sig everyone . I'm in a pitiful state atm. I'm a victim http://www.laymark.com/l/o/79.gif (http://www.laymark.com)
Ah that's kinda hard to ignore but no worries I rly dig Sera in that panel it's nice seeing it again - I'd switch with Shioon anytime if it weren't for the slight snag of bloodloss to neigh death - considering Sera this chap, it might even be worth it :derp

matzik1212
May 28, 2012, 09:27 AM
It could be that those bags have small capacity/volume, and the drug Shioon was given, by doc, is keeping him alive...:hee

That's just you hoping for the impossible :XD I still think he's at the verge of death . He looked really horrible . Even his body seemed strange :s Next chapter he'll have a blood transfusion IMO


"I can't ignore it", this picture is almost the first thing that my eyes notice (it stands out the most !!!), my inner world gets another "crack" each time I see it, and soon it will be completely destroyed and nothing but ruins are gonna be left...:3c

You are torturing me, with this signature, change it...:yelling

Why was it not Jinie instead of Sera, seriously I envy you Shioon...:amuse

PS: My city lacks women (!!!), there are 2 times more boys than girls, I gess I will have to "relocate myself" to where Shioon is...:s

*this post really is half true, half joke...:fail*

LOL :XD

Sorry it's off topic Charlie :D

I can't change it since it's a punishment :scry . I lost a game and i'm supposed to wear it dammit :arf Trust me i hate this more than anything :yelling I'm ashamed :fail

4ghost
May 28, 2012, 08:09 PM
It's possible that some one has already said it, but it just occurred to me that Sera could be performing a special technique that really exists in our world, Mouth to Mouth Resuscitation. Given Shioon's state it would have made sense for CPR to be needed as well. I imagine it will be necessary for Sera to replenish Shioon with some of his own blood, if not all, before they can attempt to move.

Those secret documents of the Bone Blood clan might end up serving more than one purpose here. It's obviously being used as a delaying tactic to by their group some time, however it could be the key to the Illwumoon Munju being able to recreate the drug for Shioon minus mahwan effects. Somehow those documents in addition to Shioon's blood could end up aiding in the recovery of Shiho. It may also eventually be used to treat the SUC thugs that are victims of the doctor.

shaheer
May 29, 2012, 03:55 AM
This is a story of a girl who kissed a guy wearing nothing but boxers with a ball gag on his mouth..

Am I the only one who thinks the author needs to take a break?

kind a agree with you, feel that it was an unnecessary fan service. Things like this always implies that the plot gaps/silliness are being covered up by flashy stuffs like the sera shiwoon moments n this chap
this being saved formula is also getting old, its just same set different actors the only common actor is the damsel who is our shiwoon

---------- Post added at 02:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------

ALL I WANT TO SEE IS BHT, it has really been a LONG time since we last saw BHT. Damn i wish that shiwoon uses it to get out of this place after sera is done with rejuvenating him or whatever she is doing (i m assuming that she didnt do it capriciously on a spur of a moment cuz she felt lonely :notrust)

haegar
May 29, 2012, 04:42 AM
^ if the fanservice is needed to that degree might be debatable but I'd say it is a tad early to classify it as being used to gloss over plotholes 0.o If anything, Sera is written into the same role of "possible love interest" all the other girls already got in one way or another - her being the character she is makes it look a little different than with the other girls though, personally I feel she's more manipulative and possesive hence it's not so far fetched she'd go for a kiss where the others did not? Either way we'll have to see if and what purpose her kiss served other than satisfying her feelings :P

NAM61
May 29, 2012, 09:06 AM
This is a story of a girl who kissed a guy wearing nothing but boxers with a ball gag on his mouth..

Am I the only one who thinks the author needs to take a break?

i dont think he needs a break people just want action to happen all the time most heroes get embarrassed all the time before they get stronger. naruto hyperventilating, ichigo crying after gijou took his powers. the fall comes before the rise

shaheer
May 29, 2012, 11:03 AM
^ if the fanservice is needed to that degree might be debatable but I'd say it is a tad early to classify it as being used to gloss over plotholes 0.o If anything, Sera is written into the same role of "possible love interest" all the other girls already got in one way or another - her being the character she is makes it look a little different than with the other girls though, personally I feel she's more manipulative and possesive hence it's not so far fetched she'd go for a kiss where the others did not? Either way we'll have to see if and what purpose her kiss served other than satisfying her feelings :P
ya but what i am saying is like what ever the explanation the author could have managed the same effect other than a kiss.
things are deliberately made to give a level of fan servicing, but i suppose we wont know what and why this happened


Either way we'll have to see if and what purpose her kiss served other than satisfying her feelings :P
i think that part played the bigger role :p
other than that any one has any idea how long this arc is gonna last?
if its near the end then i think we ll get to see shiwoon with a perfect ki center real soon

blaise
May 29, 2012, 12:34 PM
About sera: She has always appeared stoic and aloof despite being very aware of her environment. It really interested me to find out that she was a student of the yae won meditation technique under the old lady (jun?) because it might be that she uses meditation to mask her true feelings and nature. It would be an interesting contrast to how shioon uses it to rapidly comprehend the martial arts concepts and its environment.
I have seen a very different sera from her typical ice qeen self especially when she interacts with her master the old lady, and especially if the subject is shioon. There's a funny light in her eyes thats very different from her 'blank' persona.
Could that 'blankness' be meditation at work? Or does shioon just bring out the kitten from her usual cold persona?

NAM61
May 29, 2012, 12:40 PM
i think sera will either try and take shwoons blood or destroy it so the doc would not get it.

also i think the doctor accidentally fixed shwoons ki center by purifying his ki it probably made his healing factor insane wolverine style.

4ghost
May 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
Sera's character does have the quirk of not understanding personal space. However I don't think she is capitalizing on Shioon's state to satisfy her own desires. That "kiss" may actually turn out to be something as simple as rescue breathing. Nearly every chapter the author has left it as a clif hanger, this was just another way to leave the audience hanging when they already know that Shioon, the main character won't die.

We should have faith in the author just understand that every facet of the story serves a purpose. This arc will likely reestablish the Milyang clan, and Sera, as a dependable ally, for not only Shioon, but the Sunwoo as well. I'm also confident that the end of this arc will bring about, through the Illwumoon clan, the recovery of Shioon's Martial Arts if not his Ki center. If Shioon learns anything from this ordeal it could transfer over to the benefit of the Sunwoo clan. That would in the end thwart to some degree the SUC leaders plans. The Sunwoo were the fearsome yet isolated clan, by the end of the arc they could end up gaining allies like Milyang, Yaewon, and Illwumoon.

blaise
May 29, 2012, 02:42 PM
^^ I agree. All this organizational maneuvering of the clans you mentioned and even future allies (maybe chundomoon) is necessary to sniff out and snuff out a ghost clan like suc that does not rely on physical assets. The culture of organizations and individuals that make up suc seems to be twofold: Driven by fear/worship of Gmr as well as love of anarchy and chaos. The only real assets of the organization are the master level recruits.
I also think that in order for shioon to either confront bfd and Gmr or truly save gmr, he needs the backing and respect of all the big names in murim.

FrostyMouse
May 30, 2012, 01:21 PM
I feel like us Sera supporters are winning here.

On other news, perhaps having his blood drained will finally kickstart his Ki Center in an effort to save his life.

Charlie
May 30, 2012, 06:37 PM
perhaps having his blood drained will finally kickstart his Ki Center in an effort to save his life.

I hope something like that happens. I want to see what will happen to Shiwoon next - if he does not get his blood back - will he still have those regenerative powers? They did say all that ki is infused into his skin and bones. Maybe Sera will track down the stolen blood and mange to have it re-infused back into Shiwoon. Then having the purified ki blood in him will do something amazing.....?

I wonder if the author is setting us up for such a scenario.....

blaise
May 30, 2012, 08:49 PM
Isn't shioon's blood right there next to them though? I'm positive those bags in the the container are filled with his blood. It will be a simple matter for sera to reverse the draining process since she possesses some medical skills. The question is does the plot require shioon to get his blood back or remain comatose for a while.

FrostyMouse
May 30, 2012, 09:15 PM
I hope something like that happens. I want to see what will happen to Shiwoon next - if he does not get his blood back - will he still have those regenerative powers? They did say all that ki is infused into his skin and bones. Maybe Sera will track down the stolen blood and mange to have it re-infused back into Shiwoon. Then having the purified ki blood in him will do something amazing.....?

I wonder if the author is setting us up for such a scenario.....

Perhaps. No matter what, Shioon's not losing the regenerative powers, because those are what enable him to have that fighting spirit. Without the Illwallsindan, no matter what kind of resolve Shioon possessed, he'd have been floored plenty of times, and if he's to continue on, he needs to keep those powers. The blood is all just sitting in blood donation packs in a crate right next to him, so it'd probably be fine. I was actually hoping that Seira's kiss is what reawakens his powers, but I think that that's hoping for a bit too much. :P

In real life, cyclists do blood doping by extracting some of their own blood and then having it put back in once their body has replenished their blood supply. Shioon will need to have some of his blood replenished immediately, but once his body finishes replenishing his blood, Shioon could then have the rest of the blood put into him in the hopes of reviving the Ki Center. I don't know. Somehow, in the next few chapters, Shioon's Ki Center should be revived, but we'll see. We can't keep beating around the bush about the broken Ki Center for much longer, now can we?

toodlydo
May 31, 2012, 04:08 AM
Perhaps. No matter what, Shioon's not losing the regenerative powers, because those are what enable him to have that fighting spirit. Without the Illwallsindan, no matter what kind of resolve Shioon possessed, he'd have been floored plenty of times, and if he's to continue on, he needs to keep those powers. The blood is all just sitting in blood donation packs in a crate right next to him, so it'd probably be fine. I was actually hoping that Seira's kiss is what reawakens his powers, but I think that that's hoping for a bit too much. :P

In real life, cyclists do blood doping by extracting some of their own blood and then having it put back in once their body has replenished their blood supply. Shioon will need to have some of his blood replenished immediately, but once his body finishes replenishing his blood, Shioon could then have the rest of the blood put into him in the hopes of reviving the Ki Center. I don't know. Somehow, in the next few chapters, Shioon's Ki Center should be revived, but we'll see. We can't keep beating around the bush about the broken Ki Center for much longer, now can we?
I don't think you realize that human body does not need blood once it has been replenished. You give blood to a person when his body is not able to replenish it or when it is leaving the body faster than it can replenish. There is only so much blood that can run through the body. Also, blood doping is not what you described it as. Blood doping is done through transfusion by taking blood from the body and put through a mechanism that removes the impurities and pumps it with either the patients or harvested RBCs and then given back to the body.

Adding to what I said before, the state in which Shioon is, is a combination of physical (loosing the blood) and that of the overwhelming flow of pure KI which he has never experienced before. Sera's kiss might just be a way of using a skill to relieve some of the enormous KI.

As for the author, I am sure the reason for us not comprehending the situation is because he already has a plot with twists in mind and a small event in the middle just cannot make sense without knowing what is going to happen. Speculating on what could happen is alright, but calling the author out on what "we" think is a plot hole or absurd is quite unfair. We do not know the ending. He might.

4ghost
May 31, 2012, 07:06 AM
@FrostyMouth I agree that Shioon won't lose the regenerative abilities of the Illwalsindan since it is very much a part of his character. Although I can't agree that the Illwalsindan is what allows him to have that fighting spirit. That Dan does show him to recover from the damage he takes due to that fighting spirit, but he showed back in part 1 in the early chapters that even without the Dan that he had an incredible spirit.

FrostyMouse
May 31, 2012, 12:11 PM
I don't think you realize that human body does not need blood once it has been replenished. You give blood to a person when his body is not able to replenish it or when it is leaving the body faster than it can replenish. There is only so much blood that can run through the body. Also, blood doping is not what you described it as. Blood doping is done through transfusion by taking blood from the body and put through a mechanism that removes the impurities and pumps it with either the patients or harvested RBCs and then given back to the body.

Adding to what I said before, the state in which Shioon is, is a combination of physical (loosing the blood) and that of the overwhelming flow of pure KI which he has never experienced before. Sera's kiss might just be a way of using a skill to relieve some of the enormous KI.

As for the author, I am sure the reason for us not comprehending the situation is because he already has a plot with twists in mind and a small event in the middle just cannot make sense without knowing what is going to happen. Speculating on what could happen is alright, but calling the author out on what "we" think is a plot hole or absurd is quite unfair. We do not know the ending. He might.

While I didn't make a complete description of blood doping, last I checked, it allows you to have more blood than normal in your system, allowing you to pump more oxygen through your veins, and that's what it boils down to, right? Obviously I know that the human body doesn't need extra blood once it's been replenished. What I am suggesting is that a massive amount of extra blood in Shioon's veins could somehow restart his Ki Center. Don't forget that this is a manhwa and doesn't have to follow the laws of physics.

Darkever
May 31, 2012, 01:39 PM
Could that 'blankness' be meditation at work? Or does shioon just bring out the kitten from her usual cold persona?
It's the kitten part. Definitely the kitten. Meow.

haegar
May 31, 2012, 04:23 PM
not that it matters for Shioon but I belive with the blood doping it is more Oxygen your blood can transport afterwards. Seriously, how could you possibly increase the amount of blood itself? there is only so much that fits into your vessels and organs 0.o Blood Pressure would rise, which it does anyways when doing high level athletics, it would be more harmful than beneficial. "last time I checked" wikipedia said this :p


Blood doping is the practice of boosting the number of red blood cells (RBCs) in the bloodstream in order to enhance athletic performance. Because such blood cells carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, a higher concentration in the blood can improve an athlete’s aerobic capacity (VO2 max) and endurance.

NAM61
May 31, 2012, 04:38 PM
i think next chapter we will see sera fight. when she will be trying to revive help shwoon by either giving him more ki or giving his blood back. i think cool guy or another suc member may catch them and she will be forced to fight.

Charlie
May 31, 2012, 04:47 PM
Regarding the blood part / packets - I thought that the doctor took it away with him. I'll have to re read the chapter again. >_<

toodlydo
May 31, 2012, 09:33 PM
Regarding the blood part / packets - I thought that the doctor took it away with him. I'll have to re read the chapter again. >_<
Page 8 (http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86263_/page_8): The blood packs are seen in a box next to Shioon.
Page 19 (http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86263_/page_19): Right before Sera comes in, the shot shows the blood packs still in the room (at least it seems like it).

I don't think that the doctor is that stupid to fall for Sera's plan. He is a shrewd person and must definitely have an ulterior motive for seeming to fall for Ilwulmun's head's horrible acting. Really looking forward to the next chapter.

magzz
June 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
man i need breaker to come out i have waited all week hope this chapter is good

shaheer
June 01, 2012, 12:48 AM
perhaps having his blood drained will finally kickstart his Ki Center in an effort to save his life.

i was hoping that it would be the case, being slob and a punch bag till he takes a medicine is becoming really old.
Then again ppl know now that shiwoon is the sunwoo head, being the only disciple of GMR he was left out of any trouble because he had no Ki, nd even then some of the murim ins tried to do him in nd Jinne was there as a body Guard
now if his ki center heals and if it gets out sunwoo might be in for some tough times here
Then again i would like to see his KI center healed as fast as possible, this is taking too long we are talking abt 73 chaps of no ki center shiwoon, the medicine effect is too ephemeral

toodlydo
June 01, 2012, 01:44 AM
i was hoping that it would be the case, being slob and a punch bag till he takes a medicine is becoming really old.
Then again ppl know now that shiwoon is the sunwoo head, being the only disciple of GMR he was left out of any trouble because he had no Ki, nd even then some of the murim ins tried to do him in nd Jinne was there as a body Guard
now if his ki center heals and if it gets out sunwoo might be in for some tough times here
Then again i would like to see his KI center healed as fast as possible, this is taking too long we are talking abt 73 chaps of no ki center shiwoon, the medicine effect is too ephemeral

You are right about Shioon's situation. But I think that last few chapters the author has shown him in different light. He has been practicing the techniques left by GMR on the phone. He also seems to be having the angry "man" look on most of the time against opponents rather than old Shioon look or should I say "scared wimp" look. The only exception was when he was asking the Elder to disregard his safety and fight So-Jang (or is it "Jung Chun"). He wasn't scared, but he wasn't confident either.