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andrewsungchehau
May 28, 2010, 11:32 PM
Beautiful cover page. It would be better if only there's a bit more background detail.
Pretty! I wonder if Hoshino is going to continue the trend of white-background covers from now on.
I had the same thought. If so, quite pity IMO coz DGM color background were quite awesome.
Digital_Eon
May 28, 2010, 11:57 PM
Wow, when did Kanda become such a beautiful woman?
...I mean.
I guess it's an okay cover? The only thought I have about it is a cry of frustration that Allen's arm is purple... again.
Yeah but... Allen and Kanda, the most popular het ship in DGM. *trolls*
Crude
May 29, 2010, 07:03 AM
Its a pretty well coloured cover, but I have some complaints:
- First of all, ever since Hoshino started serializing the series in SQ, its like all her colour pages look the same (white background, same colours, etc...)
- I'm kind of tired seeing purple and light colours being used. Why can't we have awesome colours like the ones used in Timothy's cover, the Science Division's cover, etc..?
- Again, the white background is just way too plain...
- The cover seems to be missing something. That, and Allen is unecessary on it.
ying_su
May 29, 2010, 07:28 AM
@CrudeCross:
You're looking at it from the wrong side:
-She does pretty colors always.
-We're lucky she's a good artist since she actually did covers as the Thimothy one (although i dont like this that much)
-The white background is plain and she sure want it to be like that: there are a lot of covers in DGM with this plain white: IT'S HER STYLE.
-How can you say you're tired of the colors? That's the same that saying you dont like it ;) The color are great and crazy. xDD
In the previous kanda cover (vol2) he was with that "misterious person" that's probably Zhu from Asia Branch (i'm not sure, was this his name? The guy that told Kanda to never mention the flowers). He's an important person to Kanda (he went to talk to him when this arc started)
In this cover, his place is occupied by Allen: that means is Allen the most important person for Kanda, even if they are always fighting each other.
:)
andrewsungchehau
May 29, 2010, 07:47 AM
@CrudeCross:
I think someone mentioned it that Allen's in the cover coz in this arc, the Earl and the Noah are here to celebrate his exposure from Black Order.
meiring
May 29, 2010, 07:51 AM
Wow, Beautiful! Is a good color.
I want to buy right now. : )
Zibi234
May 29, 2010, 07:56 AM
@CrudeCross:
I think someone mentioned it that Allen's in the cover coz in this arc, the Earl and the Noah are here to celebrate his exposure from Black Order.
I guess you mean "expulsion" ^^
but still this arc. does not have much of allen... so its hard to tell why he was placed on this volume cover..... in my opinion Alma should be there too as its generally him and kanda story and not allen (who appears only like in 1chapter on few pages...[and few panels in some other chapters)
so it would be better in my opinion if this volume cover had at least alma in it (like alma,kanda and allen in background)
well we can look on it under the skin... and so we would see that allen was taken to the NA branch due noah ect. but still Earl main plan was to awaken Alma (allen is just a bonus there)
Tick
May 29, 2010, 09:42 AM
Well, Allen is possessed by the 14th right on the beginning of the volume, and he watched the whole flashback, so I guess i'ts normal to be on the cover.
But I don't really like the white background, I mean, I think this cover could be a little better, maybe with Alma and etc. (nothing against the white backgrounds, I like them, but not this time)
Although my favorite cover it's still the volume 10.
PiggyBank
May 30, 2010, 02:16 PM
Kanda is wearing a rosary and the Buddhist bracelet (at least I think someone mentioned somewhere that it was Buddhist.. I'm ignorant). It's interesting how "accessories" from different religions can be randomly thrown in together.
Anyway, the rosary combined with the uniforms and the position of the two of them is... kinky :p
I must have a very dirty mind! or this cover is simply obscene
:D
yukilove21
May 31, 2010, 02:26 PM
@CrudeCross:
In this cover, his place is occupied by Allen: that means is Allen the most important person for Kanda, even if they are always fighting each other.
:)
You should be happy that you just put Idea's in my head. But you have a point.
I personally am in LOVE with this cover. (Mostly cause I am a hardcore Yullen fan.) I mean, not only the color scheme, but everything. The drawing of it, and the people *Drools* But seriously, am I like the only Yullen fan here? I doubt that. I also think while it would be cool to see Alma on a cover, I think it's better to have Allen, cause remember the 14th and what he said "I will kill you and become the M. Earl (To lazy to type the first part...)" That could be one reason (I still love that moment.) Another, could be because Allen is inside Kanda's memories.
Hell, it could even be that Hoshino likes Yullen! (I wonder if someone has asked her that before...) (I would be happy if she did...) But I doubt that...
But people, stop your complaining! It is still a beautiful cover no matter what and you know that!! (I am very sorry for being mean.)
ying_su
May 31, 2010, 02:36 PM
Hell, it could even be that Hoshino likes Yullen! (I wonder if someone has asked her that before...) (I would be happy if she did...) But I doubt that...
More than Hoshino likes Yullen (but it can be^^) it's fans that like Yullen and they asked her to draw both in the cover.
xDDDDDDD
(Another Yullen fan :D)
relory
May 31, 2010, 03:00 PM
I'm not a Yullen fan (I just don't find it appealing lol sorry! xD) but I absolutely love this cover too!! :D
The colour scheme is brilliant - I love the blue colour (it's not.. too blue.. you know? :p it's natural and fits in.. or something.. sometimes it's hard to find the right English words, right? :notrust I'm not the only one who constantly has this problem, RIGHT!? :s
I want Kanda's jewellry and Timcampi looks... delicious :gigglebunny
yukilove21
May 31, 2010, 03:41 PM
More than Hoshino likes Yullen (but it can be^^) it's fans that like Yullen and they asked her to draw both in the cover.
xDDDDDDD
(Another Yullen fan :D)
Ah, true, But it would be so awesome if she did!!! (Yay for Yullen fans!! *Glomps*)
earthforge
May 31, 2010, 04:56 PM
Okay, so that everyone else minus you guys does not throw a hissy fit, let's not get into a pairings discussion. AKA no "Hoshino likes xyz". No comment on fans forcing the mangaka, cause even if it was in support of my fav pairing, I'd still feel sick that they have no appreciation for the story and art.
Look, we have 6 chapters (189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194) in this and only 2 of them have major Allen appearances, the second only having 25 pages. That is not the same as Alma and Kanda who had appearances in all of the chapters. Allen was just not a major character in this latest set of chapters. In previous volumes, the covers have had the dominant characters on them and/or symbolism. This has neither. I can only conclude that this cover was drawn to increase attention to DGM. Sadly, it only makes me sick to my stomach. I really hope Hoshino knows that she is pulling the trigger to her traditional fans.
Simple review: Kanda's great. Timcampy's great. The color scheme's great. Allen is not (find a more unflattering pose for him to prove me wrong.)
ying_su
May 31, 2010, 05:10 PM
I didnt mean the fans, but the magazine. <-And i never said i like this. But it's what we have. (Also, sure Allen isn't there for nothing)
A traditional fan it's me: i dont like lenaxallen pairing, i dont usually read dgm doujinshis or similar, but 2 characters together can do something great (there are a lot of great friends couples in the literature/media story): Kanda and Allen are a great couple (not sexual considerations here) they fight each other but fight together: they share dark pass and traumas and the two of them know about the other. I think this is great: their relationship is an important corner in this manga so: why not share a cover? how many volume covers do they share? (Kanda has 3 covers now) This one it's good: two fighters that have a break.
(Actually, Allen has appeared only in 4 covers of 20 volumes and it's the main character! xD)
MSofAofCOCA
May 31, 2010, 06:18 PM
also, remember: there's not much Alma she can show because he's still mysterious looks wise. If she settled on old!Kanda, she probably wasn't going to put little!Alma, and old Alma only just got revealed (and i'm talking about his ch194 looks, not what he looked like when he was sealed in the floor. Logically, if she was gonna put Alma, it would be his recently revealed form. But that would be major spoilers, and would limit anything else she could put on the cover. so.....second main character after Alma is.....allen? so yeah. that's my reasoning atleast xD
arsene.lupin
June 01, 2010, 11:21 AM
alternative cover #20
Shûeisha :
D.Gray-man #20 (Alternative Cover) :
http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/8283/8f514482823090.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8f514482823090)
ying_su
June 01, 2010, 12:31 PM
Thanks!!!
What's the meaning of "alternative" here?
riki
June 01, 2010, 12:39 PM
I think you can use that cover instead of the original one. You just place the alternative cover over the other one, I think.
ying_su
June 01, 2010, 12:47 PM
But you buy the manga with both? Or it actually works like in some magazines specials were you can choose the cover you prefer?
:)
riki
June 01, 2010, 12:53 PM
I think the alternative cover is included with this month's issue (http://jumpsq.shueisha.co.jp/yokoku.html).
Ninja Spud
June 01, 2010, 02:44 PM
I was actually expecting *that* picture to become the cover, but i'm happy with the one we ended up with, too (I am also happy with the lack of purple for once. Or any other strange colors for that matter. I never thought i would miss the color red so much...).
I do love Hoshino's coloring, don't get me wrong. But once in a while I'd love for her to use normal colors. I loved the last picture we got of Allen and Kanda for that reason. It feels good just to see something different once in a while. : )
Now.. I would love Viz to come out with like, a special edition of vol.20 with the alternative cover included or something. *wants*
aorin
June 01, 2010, 09:54 PM
Way to make me spend money, Shueisha, because you just know that I'll end up buying everything, volume 20 and the latest issue just to get the alternative cover :]
Like earthforge, I'm not exactly raving over volume 20's official cover (for similar reasons), but I am looking forward to the short comic that's usually included in the inner cover. I liked the previous one about the Noah, hopefully this will be just as hilarious.
And maybe Hoshino will shower us with more 4-koma comics (Bookman's auction, etc) at the end of the book, I actually liked this new format more than the previous one about D.Gray family (the one where she changes the dialogue in the original comic into some kind of cracked up family drama). Even the early interview format was better choice since they give us insights about the characters.
...Brb, ordering the latest volume and SQ from Kino. /runs
Sakamoto
June 02, 2010, 04:39 AM
http://books.shueisha.co.jp/CGI/search/syousai_put.cgi?isbn_cd=978-4-08-874764-4&mode=1
cant wait to be out in SG D:
Jaymie
June 03, 2010, 08:53 PM
Can anyone confirm whether or not it goes up to Chapter 194? It should be out in Japan now, so hopefully we'll get some info soon. <3
I'm hoping that Hoshino does a bunch of 4koma again. Last volume reminded me of Fullmetal Alchemist with all of the little strips at the end (as well as the hilarious inside cover).
aorin
June 03, 2010, 11:27 PM
@Jaymie
Most likely it will include Chapter 194. According to the Shueisha site, volume 20 will have 196 pages. And if we combine the number of pages from 189 - 194 , there is 193 pages in total. The other 3 pages are probably 2 pages of character info and probably a page of thanks and acknowledgement.
But if that's the case, there wouldn't be any space left for some 4-koma comics D: At any rate, I hope someone who owns a copy of volume 20 can enlighten us (or I'll just wait till my copy arrives.)
andrewsungchehau
June 03, 2010, 11:31 PM
@Jaymie
Most likely it will include Chapter 194. According to the Shueisha site, volume 20 will have 196 pages. And if we combine the number of pages from 189 - 194 , there is 193 pages in total. The other 3 pages are probably 2 pages of character info and probably a page of thanks and acknowledgement.
But if that's the case, there wouldn't be any space left for some 4-koma comics D: At any rate, I hope someone who owns a copy of volume 20 can enlighten us (or I'll just wait till my copy arrives.)
Around how many pages does the 4-koma comics usually have?:)
aorin
June 04, 2010, 12:56 AM
Around how many pages does the 4-koma comics usually have?:)
In volume 19, there are three 4-koma comics (+ an additional image of Lavi complaining) spreaded over 2 pages :'D I'm hoping for a similar amount for this volume. Otherwise, there are also some extra pages between chapters. These pages can be filled with anything--interviews, D.Gray family gag, drawings by Hoshino's family, random images, character stats.
Initially, I had thought that 194 would be left out, so that would leave her 21 - 24 pages for other materials. But even with everything included (2 pages of character info, 4 extra pages in between chapters, 2 pages of 4-koma, 1 content page, 1 title page and 1 credit page) there's still about 10 pages left to fill. :blink
TitaniumChloride
June 04, 2010, 02:49 AM
According to this Jap fan (http://clown1225.blog88.fc2.com/blog-entry-279.html) who bought vol 20, Edgar was 43 years old and Touyi was 39.
The person also hinted at the extra by saying something about them crying in the train since morning... (Not sure if that's right)
Since it was tedious to type on a mobile, they might say more later.
andrewsungchehau
June 04, 2010, 03:41 AM
According to this Jap fan (http://clown1225.blog88.fc2.com/blog-entry-279.html) who bought vol 20, Edgar was 43 years old and Touyi was 39.
The person also hinted at the extra by saying something about them crying in the train since morning... (Not sure if that's right)
Since it was tedious to type on a mobile, they might say more later.
Wow. There definitely don't look like that age. :D But it's common sense if they're Bak's parent(unsure if it is or not, or so I saw from other posts).:sweaty
aorin
June 04, 2010, 03:47 AM
According to this Jap fan (http://clown1225.blog88.fc2.com/blog-entry-279.html) who bought vol 20, Edgar was 43 years old and Touyi was 39.
The person also hinted at the extra by saying something about them crying in the train since morning... (Not sure if that's right)
Since it was tedious to type on a mobile, they might say more later.
OMG! *hugs TC* Thank you so much for the info! Where's my copy, dang it! Gosh, they sure look young for their age! Goodness, I can still believe Touyi's age to a certain degree since she's rather mature but Edgar looks barely a day over 25 O.O But I guess all this makes sense if they are indeed Bak's parents. And thanks for the link too! ;D
Edit: Read through entry in that link. And yup, I think it's confirmed they are indeed Bak's parents. Now, I'm feeling extremely sorry for that bloke, that tragedy was indeed a great loss to him D:
I'm not sure about the crying bit but I'm sure this person mentioned that there's a side story! I mean, this word (番外編) stands for side story, right? RIGHT?! TELL ME I'M RIGHT! XD
Also, I'm giggling at the part where the blogger panicked when they realised Edgar was older and they always believed that Edgar was the sort to go for older women XD
TitaniumChloride
June 04, 2010, 05:10 AM
Lol, Edgar really does look young doesn't he? And that comment about chasing older woman.... Tuuyi *still has no idea how to romanize this name* is a good compromise. XD And I thought the bit about them being Bak's parents was obvious so I didn't say so earlier. ><
And yeah, 番外編 is like a side story/gaiden of sorts (Jap link) (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%95%AA%E5%A4%96%E7%B7%A8#.E7.95.AA.E5.A4.96.E7.B7.A8). It either has no direct relation to the main story, is something that happened between chapters or it might be an inside story.
DGrayWonderland
June 06, 2010, 05:33 PM
hello! um... I don´t know if this is the correct thread for this but... can anyone tell me where I can buy (online) the volume 20?
sorry for my english :darn
Don't worry! I'll just move this to the correct thread for you. ^^
TitaniumChloride
June 07, 2010, 01:06 AM
@DGrayWonderland: I'm not familliar with the Spanish scene, but maybe you can PM and ask ying_su (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/member.php?u=55364).
[hr]
Okay, some volume 20 info coming in. Sources are here (http://iwanttoknow.blog27.fc2.com/blog-entry-764.html), here (http://blog.goo.ne.jp/eothain033/e/639cf76ccd9fa07d97204641e1f3ead0) and here (http://white2black.web.fc2.com/data/world/comics02.html) (Jap links)
Vol 20 has chapters 189 to 193 + 193.5.
Under the front cover is a short with the Millenium Earl (human form) and Lavi wearing the Earl's usual form as costumes. Allen might be in it as well. "Eh, Lavi's a stuntman? Hooray!!" "Boy? How do you feel about being taught a lesson with needles in the soles of your shoes?" I have no idea who says what.
Colour illustration of Kanda from the Jump SQ premium cards is attatched.
Bonus between chapters seem to be in order of 1) Link and Timcanpi illustration 2) Edgar's profile 3) Touyi's profile 4) Alma and Yuu illustration 5) Zuu's profile 6) (Special Thanks page) Alma, Yuu and Yoshi the rabbit illustration.
Extra at the end of the volume is chapter 193.5, a three page bonus chapter dealing with the aftermath of Alma's massacre.
That's all for now. Wish there were pictures to make sense of the inner volume cover.
aorin
June 07, 2010, 01:28 AM
TC, YOU GO GIRL! Thank you for all the links!
And now, a little something that I found on 2ch. Credits go to TC who helped me and translated the final spoiler :'D
First up, Edgar, Touyi and Zuu's profile.
Verification: Confirmed
Source: 2ch
Credits: 妹 ◆lOoG5hDLWs
アジア支部支部長補佐役 エドガー・チャン・マルティン(43)
バクの実父。ドイツ出身。黒の教団創設にかかわったひとりである
ドイツ人魔術士の血を引いたチャン家の分家の出。
トゥイとは生まれる前から決められた許嫁だった。
イケメンだが神は伸ばしっぱなしのボサボサでオシャレは苦手。
トゥイ大好き。ちょっと泣き虫。アルマ暴走の折、死亡。
4月10日生まれ 牡羊座 O型
アジア支部長 トゥイ・チャン(39)
バクの実母。古の魔術を受け継ぐチャン家の当主として
『第ニ使徒計画』の技術面の指揮を執る。
ユウやアルマが持つ再生能力は、チャン家の秘術から生み出されたもの。
ズゥは先代当主だった父の実兄で伯父にあたる。
跡取りのバクには、いつか室長となって教団の負の体質を変えてもらいたいという
願いをかけていた為、厳しく教育していた。
アルマ暴走の折、レニーを研究室の外に逃がし、自らはアルマに殺され死亡。
9月29日生まれ 天秤座 A型
対AKUMA武器製造者(兼アジア支部料理長) 刀匠 ズゥ・メイ・チャン(年齢不詳)
かつてはチャン家きっての偉大な魔導士で中央庁高官に就き強い権力を持っていた。
若き日のルベリエの教師だったこともあり、彼を「マルコム」と呼びすてる数少ない人物。
料理の腕もかなりの達人で、現在本部料理長のジェリーの師匠でもある。
『第ニ使徒計画』には直接の参加はしていなかったが、自身の罪悪感から無視できず、
研究所の厨房によく顔を出し様子を見守っていた。
何か大きな罪を抱えているらしく、長年、その罪悪感に苦しんでいる。
Source: 2ch
Credit: 妹 ◆lOoG5hDLWs
Verification: Confirmed
Asian Branch Chief Assistant: Edgar Chang Martin (43)
Bak’s father. Born in Germany.
He’s from the Chang clan branch family that possesses the blood of the German magician who was one of the founder of the Black Order.
His marriage to Touyi had been decided before their birth.
He’s a good-looking man, but he can't pull off (or 'is bad at being fashionable with') messy long hair.
Loves Touyi very much. A bit of a crybaby. Died during Alma’s rampage.
Birthday: 10th April. Aries. Bloodtype: O
Asian Branch Chief Touyi Chang (39)
Bak’s mother. Inherited ancient magic and is the Head of the Chang clan.
She’s in charge of the technical side of the ‘Second Apostle Project’
The regeneration ability that Yu and Alma possess is a secret skill created by the Chang clan.
Zuu is Touyi’s uncle and the older brother of the previous Branch Chief who is Touyi’s father.
In hopes that her heir, Bak would one day succeed as the Supervisor and change the negative aspects of the Order, he was given strict education.
When Alma went on a rampage, Renee managed to escape from the lab but she herself was killed by Alma.
Birthday: 29th September. Libra. Bloodtype: A
Manufacturer of Anti-Akuma Weapons (Also the Head Chef of the Asian Branch) Swordsmith Zuu Mei Chang (Age unknown)
Formerly a great magician of the Chang clan who held a high position and wields a substantial power in the Central.
He was the teacher of a younger Leverrier and one of the few people that addresses him as ‘Malcolm’.
He’s also a master in culinary, and happens to be the master of Jeryy, the current Head Chef of the Headquarters.
Even though he wasn’t directly involved in the ‘Second Apostle Project’, he couldn’t ignore his own guilt, he usually showed up in the research lab's kitchen to watch over the state of affairs.
He seems to be carrying some kind of great sin and after many years, those feelings of guilt still torment him.
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Source: 2ch
Credit: 妹 ◆lOoG5hDLWs
Verification: Confirmed
番外編 193.5 (3p/g)
・エドガーの死体を運びながら労りの言葉をかけているフォー、泣く
・フォーが頼まれてたこと
→「どんな結果になっても私達を守らないでね、それが研究所の皆の総意」
・守り神に守るなって何だよバカヤロー
・エドガーとトゥイが寄り添って手を繋いでいるコマ
Source: 2ch
Credit: 妹 ◆lOoG5hDLWs & TitaniumChloride for the translation
Verification: Confirmed
Side Story 193.5 (3 pages)
- Fou, who while transporting Edgar's dead body, is speaking sympathising words. She cries.
- What Fou was requested to do: "No matter what the results, don't protect us alright? This is the consensus of everyone of the research lab."
- "What's a guardian deity who can't protect, idiot?"
- There's a panel of Edgar and Touyi close together with their hands joined.
One more thing. I haven't seen any spoiler pics yet, but there is a preview of the first chapter of Volume 20 in s-manga.net. There, you can see the Link & Timcanpy image (http://www.s-manga.net/comics_new/cn_20100604_sq_jpc_9784088747644_d-gray-man-20k.html). It is exquisitely adorable XD
earthforge
June 07, 2010, 09:12 AM
Thanks guys! Link & Timcampy looked utterly cute. Am I the only one not surprised by Twi and Edgar's age? Anyhow, it's sad, they were my favorite scientists. Poor Bak, no wonder why he is so passionate about the Thirds. I look forward to seeing the Fo pics!
harmaa
June 07, 2010, 11:15 AM
I'm so happy about 193.5! I was really disappointed by how easily Edgar's death was passed over, but this makes it all better.
Jaymie
June 07, 2010, 01:03 PM
I wonder if Volume 20 says when Volume 21 comes out? Since chapters 194 and 195 are already published, it would make sense if Volume 21 comes out in four months. It would be agonizing, to say the least, if we have to wait six months for a volume again. Who remembers when DGM used to come out every three months? Me neither.
aorin
June 07, 2010, 10:38 PM
Hey all, I have Volume 20 with me :'D I've scanned Chapter 193.5 and the additional pictures last night and I'll be uploading here. I have the translation for 193.5 which I'll include here but it'll be nice if someone can offer to clean and typeset this :'D
Inner Cover of Volume 20
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Cover.jpg
Title: Volume 20 Behind the Scenes
Here, the Earl is taking a 30-minute break from his work as a stuntman. His next scene is the 'Allen and Tyki crashing onto the Earl' scene. And he's happy that he's able to work on such action even at this age. Lavi, on the hand, is another stuntman because he's just too free. Same for Timcanpy, who's working part-time as the road doll.
And Tyki asked Allen (calling him shounen) if he wants to add nails to the soles of their shoes before they make this scene XD
Also sorry that the scan is rather small. I'll see if I can upload a better one so that you can see all the text properly.
Edgar, Touyi and Zuu's profile
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Edgar.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Touyi.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Zuu.jpg
Edgar looks so dorky and adorable XD Touyi is badass as usual ;D And Zuu looks pretty good too.
Additional Images: Link & Timcanpy; Alma & Kanda
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Link.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Yu_Alma1.jpg
Oh Link, ever busy with Timcanpy following faithfully for food obviously. The Alma & Kanda picture is cool too, reminds me a lot of the Crow+Link graffiti.
Special Thanks Page (or as I call it, THE COVER THAT NEVER MADE IT)
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Yu_Alma2.jpg
Go on, compare this with the Volume 20 cover and tell me you can't see the resemblance in their poses XD Make what you will of it ;D In the place of Timcanpy, we have Yoshi, the diabolical bunny.
Panels that has been touched-up
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_1.jpghttp://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_1-1.png
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_2.jpghttp://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_2-1.png
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_3.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_3-1.png
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_4.jpghttp://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Bak_4-1.png
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Allen.jpghttp://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/Allen-1.png
Most of the background of Bak's panels were fixed, so that it actually looks like they are still underground. The rest were more or less the same since the drawing was top notch over the last couple of chapters.
Though, I just couldn't figure out why Hoshino chose to fix the bubble in Allen's panel. Obviously the symbols were funnier :/
I've saved the best for last. Be prepared to have your heart gutted out T_T
(Translation by K & L included below each image. Images auto-resized by PB)
Chapter 193.5 Friends
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/01.jpg
"It was long -
And painful, too.
But hey, it's finally over."
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/02.jpg
"Guess this means they'll finally put an end to the Second Apostle Project."
"Please...Fou.
Promise you won't protect us, no matter what it leads to.
It's what all of us in the research facility want."
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/aorin107/DGray-Man/Volume%2020/03.jpg
"Geez...
What the hell were you saying, telling a guardian deity not to protect you.
You freakin' idiots..."
Edit: I've included the larger images for Chapter 193.5 here.
Trust me, it looks much better here than the auto-resized image.
http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/8370/0a975783695496.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0a975783695496/) http://thumbnails19.imagebam.com/8370/4d33d083695654.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4d33d083695654/) http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/8370/4eec3f83695740.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4eec3f83695740/)
harmaa
June 07, 2010, 10:56 PM
Oh god... I love you right now, Aorin... Although my heart is breaking.
aorin
June 07, 2010, 11:17 PM
Oh god... I love you right now, Aorin... Although my heart is breaking.
Say no more, my heart is crushed too. So are the two translators who did the translation for Chapter 193.5 T_T I can understand why some of the people on 2ch ended up crying now, including the one who gave us the spoilers earlier.
earthforge
June 08, 2010, 12:39 AM
Oh wow. I would prefer that 194 never existed too just see more of the aftermath. It is heart-wrenching. Just finished typing a one-shot of Fo's POV on their deaths inspired by this and "The Crane Dance" by Einaudi. Will proof it in a day, but this was wrenching.
Oh, and the Kanda & Alma page should've been the cover. It really should've.
andrewsungchehau
June 08, 2010, 12:51 AM
Can anyone translate Edgar, Touyi and Zuu's profile?:)
Chp 193.5 is really sad.T_T Edgar and Touyi, I'm glad Hoshino sensei introduce them even though they are dead. Fou's crying.T_T
aorin
June 08, 2010, 03:20 AM
Oh wow. I would prefer that 194 never existed too just see more of the aftermath. It is heart-wrenching. Just finished typing a one-shot of Fo's POV on their deaths inspired by this and "The Crane Dance" by Einaudi. Will proof it in a day, but this was wrenching.
Oh, and the Kanda & Alma page should've been the cover. It really should've.
Yeah, it would have been nice if this was included into Chapter 194 (after all, 194 is so short). I was hoping for some reaction from Bak since we've never seen him interact directly with his parents and I wanted to see how he was in the aftermath. Still, this little short chapter is beautiful too and I'm glad Hoshino did show us a little of the aftermath (despite how short it is)
It's great to hear that you've completed the one-shot, hopefully you'll share it once it's up.
Can anyone translate Edgar, Touyi and Zuu's profile?:)
It has been translated here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1940926&postcount=535). Updated Edgar's profile a little after comparing the text with the actual.
One thing that I find quite peculiar is Touyi's words, 'Promise you won't protect us, no matter what it leads to. It's what all of us in the research facility want.' It's almost like all the scientists involved in the 'Second Apostle Project' were welcoming death. I feel like this comes to show that they are all reluctant participants in this project and they are actually relieved that it has finally come to an end.
But then again, if they all agreed to accept the consequences, why did Touyi chose to let Renee go? In the final panel, there's a crack on the wall and I assume that Renee escaped through there with Touyi's help.
Though, this explains why Bak was so upset about the Thirds. His parents' sacrifice will mean nothing if they continue with those human experiments T_T
Edit: And I was wondering what is that little detail that kept on slipping my mind ever since this morning. It was revealed in Volume 20 that Volume 21 will be released in November this year. Which means, that's another 5 months to go D:
andrewsungchehau
June 08, 2010, 06:08 AM
oh my, Edgar and Touyi really are Bak's parent.^_^
Jaymie
June 08, 2010, 06:09 AM
November? D:
At least we don't have to wait six months again... But this still feels considerably slow. Hopefully Hoshino gets back in the game soon and starts making 40-page chapters so she can release a volume every four months (like Tegami Bachi or Fullmetal Alchemist).
relory
June 08, 2010, 10:32 AM
All I really want to say is: Thank you so much, Hoshino!!
I'm definitly pleased with this. Funny omake, heart-breaking extra and really interesting info! Waiting 20 more days already feels less painful :p
I must say that the last chapters have been simply wonderful, the story and plot-development is amazing! Dare I say Hoshino probably is the best shounen-mangaka artist together with Oda-san out there nowadays? her lines are simply beautiful! Sorry for fangirling a little here, I'm just awestruck I guess! :D
MSofAofCOCA
June 08, 2010, 03:42 PM
IDK if anyone actually saw this little detail, but not only are Edgar and Touyi next to each other, but they are also holding hands ;-;
geez, this is so sad =*(
but i wonder........In 192, Touyi told Fou to keep Edgar out, so....how did Alma get to kill Edgar?
PS: Central is a @##&%&!!!! Sorry Fou, no such luck >=(
Aurora
June 08, 2010, 04:49 PM
^ Touyi told Fou to keep Bak out, not Edgar.
Jaymie
June 08, 2010, 06:03 PM
I don't get Renee at all. She was the sole survivor of the massacre, but yet she insisted on the Third Exorcist Project anyway. And now look at what's happening - Alma's killing people again.
She better learn her lesson this time around. The Black Order might not be able to survive Fourth Exorcists...
klandmon
June 08, 2010, 08:53 PM
AORIN THANKS FOR SHARING
I LOVE THIS VOLUME
well, the cover... don´t like me but the information in it is great!!
riki
June 08, 2010, 09:05 PM
I don't get Renee at all. She was the sole survivor of the massacre, but yet she insisted on the Third Exorcist Project anyway. And now look at what's happening - Alma's killing people again.
She better learn her lesson this time around. The Black Order might not be able to survive Fourth Exorcists...
Maybe she wanted to bring honor back to her family name? That is the only reason I could think of why she would want to work on the Third Exorcist Project.
Anyway, thanks for the volume info! It's was very touching and bittersweet to see Bak's parents holding hands for one last time. T_T
earthforge
June 08, 2010, 09:08 PM
jaymie: No, you're wrong. She was forced, just like Twi and Edgar, to do the Thirds. Leverrier was the one who created the Third Exorcist plan and pushed it onto Renee. She probably reassured herself that it wouldn't end up badly because Alma was in a deep slumber and the Thirds were volunteers. That's understandable. I don't think any of the Order imagined that the Earl knew of Alma's existence and that he would bring him back.
I feel real badly for Renee. She annoyed me at first cause she seemed like a stereotype of blonde woman scientists and was drawn like a female impersonator.
andrewsungchehau
June 09, 2010, 02:19 AM
jaymie: No, you're wrong. She was forced, just like Twi and Edgar, to do the Thirds. Leverrier was the one who created the Third Exorcist plan and pushed it onto Renee. She probably reassured herself that it wouldn't end up badly because Alma was in a deep slumber and the Thirds were volunteers. That's understandable. I don't think any of the Order imagined that the Earl knew of Alma's existence and that he would bring him back.
I feel real badly for Renee. She annoyed me at first cause she seemed like a stereotype of blonde woman scientists and was drawn like a female impersonator.
She got some explanation on why she's involve in the third project in chp 185 if I'm not mistaken.
aorin
June 09, 2010, 02:36 AM
@earthforge: Bak seems to believe that Renee was forced to work on the Third Exorcist project (considering how he was going to charge to the Central until Fou sat on him) but I'm not too sure about Renee though. In Chapter 185, she didn't seem all that reluctant and unhappy about it and when Bak asked her why did she do it, she told him that the previous attack on the headquarters made her realise that in order for humans to prevail over Akuma, some sacrifices are necessary, which seem to echo the ideas of Leverrier.
Then again, Bak and Renee were the ones who sealed away the Order's dark legacy, so I guess she just had a changed of heart ever since. However, I do believe that Renee meant well when she took on the Thirds project, the Crows were volunteers after all and she certainly didn't expect the consequences to be so severe.
Come to think of it, how did the Earl know about Alma anyway? Legory Peck mentioned that those who have reached the level of Section Chief ought to have an idea of it. So that would mean that the newbies, younger recruits and lower level staff wouldn't know and only those in the higher level has knowledge of it. A traitor somewhere? Or is the Earl really that well-informed?
earthforge
June 09, 2010, 09:39 AM
aorin: Renee's design was substantially changed in the volume. When the chapter came out, she was designed to be indifferent to it. In the volume, she's more conflicted as she repeats those words. (I think Hoshino radically changed the character over the hiatus, otherwise I would agree with you.)
Indeed. Who ever would expect that Alma, who was so deep in a coma that even Wisely couldn't wake up at first and had to use an indirect method, would ever wake up again?
Also, remember Road knew about Kanda's "that person". The Earl seems to have a lot of knowledge about the Order, even about the sex life of an exorcist who died over 10 years ago (Kanda's brain). I am stumped.
MSofAofCOCA
June 09, 2010, 12:58 PM
Ah~ In chapter 185 (http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/185/02/) does anyone notice how uh....richly Renee is dressed? that was the first thing i noticed when that chapter came out. I mean, she's wearing leather, fur and precious stones. She's a scientist, and i don't believe they get paid directly (money may or may not go to ppl's family), but she suddenly looks really rich....
I also remember when the 4th akuma attacked, she had an out righ look of horror on her face....so i think it wouldn't take too much of leverrier's energy to coax her into continuing with the project (plus, she said that she like Leverrier more than Bak). Like someone said, she was the only survivor who knew of process of making 2nds, so she would be the only one able to lead 3rd project...
I also went and reread chapters of Ark Arc, and realized that Jasdebi also knew of Bookman clan, and provided they're like, 17/18 years old, Bookman clan probably worked with Earl a few years back. Kinda worried if Bookman Sr. is a spy, since we know he is much more neutral than Lavi....or if the Bookman before Bookman was with the Noah. Then, we also have possible brokers with in the order that may be leaking information. Heck, knowing that Cyrill is a governer, it's possible that Central/Branches are accidentaly leaking information unaware that they are leaking it to Noah.
Uh....should this be moved to Prediction thread, since it's kindaoff topic? >.<''
Jaymie
June 09, 2010, 02:15 PM
Well, we all know that the Earl's human form is a high-ranking British aristocrat, and that someone from Central murdered Cross. I think it's quite possible that the Earl or one of the Noah (Mightra or Lulu, probably) are directly involved with Central.
Either that or there's a broker involved. I doubt a broker would be in the Order, but there's definitely someone in Central leaking info to the Earl. Remember the files of Allen and Cross that the Earl had?
riki
June 09, 2010, 09:53 PM
D.Gray-man Vol. 20 is #3 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-09/japanese-comic-ranking-may-31-june-6) behind One Piece and Bleach for the week of May 31st-June 6th. It has sold 241,360 copies so far.
aorin
June 09, 2010, 11:07 PM
^ I did a little comparison for D.Gray-man first week sales and it is as follows:
Volume 18 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-10/japanese-comic-ranking-june-1-7) (Timothy cover): 300,630
Volume 19 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-09/japanese-comic-ranking-november-30-december-6) (Allen, Tyki, Road): 244,049
Volume 20 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-09/japanese-comic-ranking-may-31-june-6) (Kanda, Allen): 241,360
Okay, what's going on here? D8
@earthforge: I would like to believe she's conflicted as well but she's also equally determined to do something about the situation rather than sit back and take the next blow (though she probably didn't expect to make the situation worse than it is). Between Bak and Renee, I would say that Bak is more idealistic and soft-hearted while Renee is much more down-to-earth; their approach pretty much reflect their parents'.
MSofAofCOCA: For some reason, I always believed that the more influential families, like the Chang, Epstein, Leverrier are considerably rich. Their families have been around for so long and most of them held high positions, surely they receive some sort of funds for their services. In the first novel (Bak's story), Komui did mention that he was able to increase his research funds due to his position (and we all know what does Komui uses it for), so it wouldn't be strange if Renee uses it for other purposes. Besides, I always thought Bak is more vain cause he has a change of attire every now and then and more frequently than others, certainly more than Komui XD
As for the Earl, I do suspect that he has some contacts within the Order and Central (and from how he's easily able to obtain old and confidential information, it's probably someone of a high rank). He might not want to completely annihilate them yet but surely he keeps an eye on them, and with so many Akuma (that can take human form) in his service, I think it's rather easy for him to send a spy. Doug from the novel became an Akuma and he still managed to get pass their radar, similarly for Lulubell later.
andrewsungchehau
June 10, 2010, 01:12 AM
^ I did a little comparison for D.Gray-man first week sales and it is as follows:
Volume 18 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-10/japanese-comic-ranking-june-1-7) (Timothy cover): 300,630
Volume 19 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-09/japanese-comic-ranking-november-30-december-6) (Allen, Tyki, Road): 244,049
Volume 20 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-09/japanese-comic-ranking-may-31-june-6) (Kanda, Allen): 241,360
Okay, what's going on here? D8
I'm guessing its because of One Piece.:S
ca12nag3
June 10, 2010, 06:31 AM
volumes are not about the cover btw, but the content. Also the eco crisis might be affecting sales who knows. And it could be One Piece but its hard to tell atm.
Jaymie
June 10, 2010, 06:33 AM
D.Gray-man was released on the 4th. That info doesn't even cover an entire week, so it seems like it's lower than the other volumes when it's really not.
aorin
June 10, 2010, 06:52 AM
volumes are not about the cover btw, but the content. Also the eco crisis might be affecting sales who knows. And it could be One Piece but its hard to tell atm.
I only mentioned the cover because some people might have forgotten which volume I was referring to. And I made the comparison because I thought it'd be an interesting point of discussion.
Also, I don't really quite think that the better sales of other series will affect the sales of DGM. The stark difference between 18 and 19 can be explained by the shift of the manga to SQ and the hiatus then. As for 19 and 20, there's not much difference, and Jaymie said, it could possibly just the time it was published.
riki
June 16, 2010, 08:50 PM
Volume 20 dropped from #3 to #4 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-16/japanese-comic-ranking-june-7-13) last week (June 7th-13th); it has sold 382,501 copies overall.
yukilove21
June 17, 2010, 01:55 AM
Volume 20 is #3 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-16/japanese-comic-ranking-june-7-13) last week (June 7th-13th); it has sold 382,501 copies overall.
Hm, that's really good!!
frenzypix
June 23, 2010, 03:03 PM
Does someone knows where can i find the HQ version of the Vol. 20 cover? i allready look for it everywhere and i just dont find it :(
PS: Sorry for my bad english :)
Rikulaw
June 24, 2010, 07:46 AM
Does someone knows where can i find the HQ version of the Vol. 20 cover? i allready look for it everywhere and i just dont find it :(
I scanned mine. Hope you don't mind with this :D
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/11570 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/d-gray-man/11570)
frenzypix
July 17, 2010, 08:51 AM
Thanks for the cover, but it looks kind of weird specially around allen's head. Could you scanned again, and in a larger size? Hope you don't mind:)
Rikulaw
August 12, 2010, 11:10 PM
Sorry for being too late. X<
Here's a larger file size with better quality. I'm afraid this is already my scanner's limit. I can't give anything better than this.
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/12426 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/d-gray-man/12426)
p1xel
September 06, 2010, 12:51 AM
The art is awesome.One of my favorites.Unique as Soul Eater.This would fit as a seinen IMO.All Volumes are my favorites.:)
Jaymie
October 01, 2010, 10:09 PM
http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51biIl1aXhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Just placing this here...
Also, Volume 21 and Novel 3 come out in Japan on December 3rd. Yay!
Niko_kun
November 17, 2010, 08:15 PM
cover #20:
http://i40.tinypic.com/ifbujb.jpg
credit to Heiji-sama
has anyone a spoiler like this for the cover of vol 21? I can wait more 10 days! :((
riki
November 17, 2010, 09:08 PM
Please don't make this an agony thread. ;)
Anyway, to answer your question, the cover is not out yet.
Narinyan
November 26, 2010, 06:44 AM
D.Gray-Man 21
http://imgur.com/A4gHQ.jpg
TitaniumChloride
November 26, 2010, 06:50 AM
The cover is looks a bit simple, and the colours on his lower torso remind me of Rainbow Paddlepops (http://www.google.com/images?q=paddlepop+rainbow), but it's NEAH! Hell yeah!
sparviero-92
November 26, 2010, 07:17 AM
she changed again the colors of the coat
and
this time neah has only his left eye open..
but it's NEAH! Hell yeah!
+1
Googlez_kun
November 26, 2010, 07:20 AM
Awesome cover is awesome.It's rather simple,but i like it a lot,especially because of the colors and Neah.
riki
November 26, 2010, 07:28 AM
^I agree. It looks simple but beautiful.
I also like Neah's expression on the cover.
luna_wolf
November 26, 2010, 07:36 AM
*chokes on tea*
OMG!!!!!!! that is soo AWESOME!
Asclepius
November 26, 2010, 07:44 AM
Apart from the pink tones, I liked it.
I really dislike boys in pink, Although i like yaoi.
The cover is looks a bit simple, and the colours on his lower torso remind me of Rainbow Paddlepops (http://www.google.com/images?q=paddlepop+rainbow), but it's NEAH! Hell yeah!
Don't make me want to bite him more than i already do. ^_^
Sweet as a lollypop, haha.
Sakamoto
November 26, 2010, 08:08 AM
KYAAAH! <3
Neah-sama is in the cover!!! ^^ i cant wait to buy it! x_x
thanks for the upload of the pict, it made my day! :D
i do think that his inner shirt looks like the Earl's shirt too!
Jaymie
November 26, 2010, 08:09 AM
Best cover yet. Sorry Cross and Maria! D:
There's actually a background this time! And I love how she positioned "D.Gray-man" and changed the font for the volume number.
riki
November 26, 2010, 08:13 AM
Apart from the pink tones, I liked it.
I really dislike boys in pink, Although i like yaoi.
Think of it this way: real men wear pink. :amuse
BTW isn't pink considered a masculine color in Japan? I remembered reading that somewhere.
clamche
November 26, 2010, 08:41 AM
What is that eye above his head? By the way that's not Neah himself but Neah in Allen's body so it's different. And Neah so much wants to be the Earl that he is wearing the same clothing - coat and shirt and all
TitaniumChloride
November 26, 2010, 10:00 AM
she changed again the colors of the coat
Maybe it's because she's using pinkish/purplish lighting here?
What is that eye above his head?
Huh, now that you mention it, 2 things come to mind: Wisely's third eye and the original Homonculus from FMA (irrelevant but true).
By the way that's not Neah himself but Neah in Allen's body so it's different.
That's right, but Neah is taking over the body so it still counts(?)
And Neah so much wants to be the Earl that he is wearing the same clothing - coat and shirt and all
:o Woah, didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing that out!
ca12nag3
November 26, 2010, 10:06 AM
Its either he wants to be the earl or this is the introduction of him actualy becomming a earl? We still dont know who actualy betrayed who and why.
Also i believe Allen will strike a deal somehow with his inner noah and together theyll fight the earl.
Oh btw that eye? Either Wisely or maybe the 13th noah? he had 1 eye too and hes...nowhere atm.
Niko_kun
November 26, 2010, 11:03 AM
D.Gray-Man 21
http://imgur.com/A4gHQ.jpg
OMG THATS AWESOME! i think that this is not Neah. This is Allen *-*
Mango-chan
November 26, 2010, 12:20 PM
It's so beautiful. ಥ⌣ಥ *Makes into icon*
lil_clutterbox
November 26, 2010, 12:33 PM
wah!! so cool!!! ^^ ow ow ow Its neah controlling allen, see there, his eyes were golden yellow <colorblind> noah traits ^^.
earthforge
November 26, 2010, 12:40 PM
Woah, I actually LIKE this cover! I got my hopes very low after the last volume cover, but WOOT! She's turned the scar back to red! There's also a fair amount of detail.
But especially, the irony of it being Neah with the cursed eye open. Nyahaha! I love that guy sometimes.
Jaymie
November 26, 2010, 02:17 PM
Yeah, Allen's scar isn't blue anymore! It started off as red, turned pink, turned purple, and then Hoshino started drawing it as blue for about a year and a half. And now it's pink again.
The past two volume covers abused blue and purple like woah and there was white space everywhere. This one is back to Hoshino's old style, and I love it.
luna_wolf
November 26, 2010, 02:27 PM
It's so beautiful. ಥ⌣ಥ *Makes into icon*
if this forum had rep points i would have given you one! XD
and i thought i was exited to finaly be able to buy vol 19 where i live, now i have to wait for this one @_@
edit: moveover, as soon as i find a highquality version of this cover im posting it overerywhere around my room!
clamche
November 27, 2010, 12:54 AM
About the pink tones in Japan the little boys were dressed in blue - the color of the sky to protect them from evil spirits. The girls weren't thought that important to be protected that way so there was't special girl's color. Some guy centuries later decided to think up of a girl's color and picked up pink. That guy was't even Japanese if I remember correctly. So pink was not originally girlish color, especially not in Japan.
andrewsungchehau
November 27, 2010, 06:56 AM
OMG....ITS SIMPLY AWESOME!!!xD Nice job, Hoshino sensei.xD
Dlanor_A.Knox
November 27, 2010, 07:44 AM
Oh my Noah... So beautifull!! I love it!!
ca12nag3
November 27, 2010, 10:51 AM
Neah or Allen, isnt that kind of a passed station already? (talking about the image not the story atm).
Allen will be a noah is what all the other noah said to the exorsists. As far as Neah goes im not sure hes either the noah entity or hes the previous host. I think the latter btw.
So this is Allen as noah.
Zibi234
November 27, 2010, 12:18 PM
hmmmm I'm not sure that this is neah... in chapter where allen was awakening as 14th... the cursed eye was closed while the human eye (right) was open.... and later the left one opened up and allen returned back do his senses...
so more like this is Allen or simply a Fusion of Allen and 14th..... simply allen who kinda cooperates with neah (allen has some of neah memories)
we can remember the card that hoshino will give us ^^ allen is there in that coat... and road is all over him...
but it would be ironic if allen;s innocence changes shape to that coat XD
I mean earl's fat posture is like cover made of some material like we saw when human-earl got to the NA base... than he was all wrapped in kinda like how innocence did to allen.... so I wouldnt be supprised if that coat is a part of his innocence (or 14th's change mode [like tyki was with that huge cylinder/hat back in WSJ issues)
well I dont want allen to disappear as he is funny... neah is well the destroyer so I doubt allen will totaly let him do as he pleases ^^ not mention that allens innocence could kill him...
but yeah the question is if this is neah on cover... we see that he touches the left arm yet it doesnt hurt him at all... so why his noah body is not beign poisoned by innocence ^^ hope we will learn it in future... like why allens innocence doesnt kill him now like normal innocence does (is it becouse of the resolve... save humans and akumas... and allen is well both xD)
anyway good cover... it shows what will happen in future (what allens fate is)... and well is allen on his own or did he remain with order... or went with noah's....
Jaymie
November 27, 2010, 11:51 PM
Volume 21 is titled Ritoru Gubbai (Little Goodbye), so it's confirmed that this covers from Chapter 194 to 199 (six chapters).
relory
November 28, 2010, 02:23 AM
Beautiful cover! *_*
I love the color palette Hoshino used for this!
I agree with those who think it's Allen as a Noah, not Neah :D
About the giant eye in the background, it reminds me of the Eye of Providence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence), as well as the "Father" from FMA. (God/Buddha/Horus/Neah/Big Brother is watching you, Allen! :eek). (I just got fuel under one of my speculations 8D But that's just me and my crazy theories, no sharing this tiem, wrong thread :p)
We also get to see what the chair-pattern-thing from the "dream-world" looks like, it's in mosaic 8D I remember, when Nea(h)'s name was discussed, someone brought up this place, Nea Moni of Chios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nea_Moni), which is well-known for its mosaics ^^ But that must have been a coincidence... or was it? *dun dun DUN*
Are there any Spoilers yet? x_X
Zibi234
November 28, 2010, 03:55 AM
About the giant eye in the background, it reminds me of the Eye of Providence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence), as well as the "Father" from FMA. (God/Buddha/Horus/Neah/Big Brother is watching you, Allen! :eek). (I just got fuel under one of my speculations 8D But that's just me and my crazy theories, no sharing this tiem, wrong thread :p)
Are there any Spoilers yet? x_X
hmmm well if we take into account the title "litle goodbye", chapters 194-199 and allen as noah on the cover... the big eye could simply be "wisely's eye" becouse he kinda was responsible for awakening alma (and took a big part in wakeing him up) which resulted later in allens awakening ^^ (like it was responsible for what happened to allen and alma)
as for spoilers.... nope too early... last time it was 31st so I guess this month it might be similar >_> 30th nov or 1st dec.
riki
December 02, 2010, 04:37 PM
DGM Vol. 19 (#35) and Vol. 20 (#49) were in the 50 Top-Selling Manga of 2010 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-12-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-volume/2010-part-2). They sold 577,093 copies and 528,924 copies respectively.
harmaa
December 04, 2010, 04:26 PM
Were there any more edits or omake in v.21?
ying_su
December 04, 2010, 04:56 PM
@riki, it's that the reason for the color pages in Feb SQ?
riki
December 04, 2010, 05:07 PM
^I'm not sure. We'll probably find out when the chapter is out. ^^
Googlez_kun
December 04, 2010, 05:30 PM
I have a question.Was there a little poster of Yuu in the 20th volume?I know that the 19th volume had one,but when i bought the german volume 20 i was surprised to find an awesome poster.
Niko_kun
December 04, 2010, 06:11 PM
I have a question.Was there a little poster of Yuu in the 20th volume?I know that the 19th volume had one,but when i bought the german volume 20 i was surprised to find an awesome poster.
yes. I have the japanese version of this volume, and contain a poster of kanda *-*
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@riki, it's that the reason for the color pages in Feb SQ?
I think that's because, in the last chapter, dgm doesn't had a color page and everytime a volume goes on sale, the series win a color page. I think that's it.
[sorry for my bad english~
p1xel
December 05, 2010, 08:28 AM
Volume 21 cover is awesome.I really liked the colors.
I wish next covers will have such great colors.
SerenePhenix
December 05, 2010, 10:40 AM
OMG..... :drool This cover looks awsome. Hoshino-sensei be warned: I'll hug should I ever get to meet you! -^^-
But I seriously hope for Allen that Neah does not take over. I like Moyashi-chan too much... ;A;
ketorin
December 05, 2010, 08:34 PM
@SerenePhenix - I think I would glomp her if I ever did meet her.
relory
December 06, 2010, 03:48 PM
Extra from vol 21(found while surfing randomly xD):
http://pic.prcm.jp/gazo/4v/aoyw7e.jpeg
Spoiler:
... Allen is sparkling.. and stripping? What's with the camera, Reever? Why are the scientists crying?...What is going on!? :blink
lol I think we need a translator before I try to make up my own meaning...:p
Moving it to the Volume thread
Ah, thank you :P
Naomidee
December 07, 2010, 01:57 AM
I think Timcanpy is selling tickets.
I will pay $434875934875984.
relory
December 07, 2010, 04:22 AM
lol I'd sell my soul ಥೆ‿ಥೆ
It actually looks like a parody of the fanservice-ish cover of vol 21 :p
Allen looks like a model posing for a photoshot haha :D
Aracely
December 07, 2010, 09:40 AM
I think Allen's saying something about a part-time job in that pic...not sure what the rest he's saying is, though. He said "baito" which means part-time job. I can't read the rest.
Niko_kun
December 07, 2010, 01:39 PM
Extra from vol 21(found while surfing randomly xD):
http://pic.prcm.jp/gazo/4v/aoyw7e.jpeg
The member Lea of dgraydivinity.net posted the translation:
Allen: Eh, I don't take it off?
Everyone: You don't take it off!
Allen: Well, they said there was part-time money. I'm completely fine so I'm taking it off. That's why, please add this stripping fee as an option. (something along that line)
Everyone: Allen, we're so worried about your future!! *cries*
MSofAofCOCA
December 07, 2010, 01:49 PM
The member Lea of dgraydivinity.net posted the translation:
Allen: Eh, I don't take it off?
Everyone: You don't take it off!
Allen: Well, they said there was part-time money. I'm completely fine so I'm taking it off. That's why, please add this stripping fee as an option. (something along that line)
Everyone: Allen, we're so worried about your future!! *cries*
IT'S THE STRIPPER WITHIN HIM! AKA NEAH! =O!!
Aw geez. I would be worried too lol.
Allen wants to strip. and does so. this is fanservice. aparently Hoshino is an official Allen X everyone shipper =)
(and timcanpy approves!)
relory
December 07, 2010, 02:25 PM
OH MY XDD I really can't stop laughing!
Hoshino's sense of humor can be perfect sometimes xD
But.. I'm kinda worried about your future too, Allen D:
what if Tyki or (even worse) CYRIL sees you like this!? O_o (lol Fandom has made these two scary as hell)
Cross really messed up this kid's morals lol :D
ketorin
December 07, 2010, 04:53 PM
@relory- yes, yes he did. that evil cross.
lmao I love the omakes in all the volume
riki
December 08, 2010, 10:04 PM
The 21st volume was #3 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-12-08/japanese-comic-ranking-november-29-december-5) in the Top Selling Manga last week (Nov. 29th-Dec. 5th). It has sold 215,177 copies so far.
Mango-chan
December 08, 2010, 10:24 PM
It's the new cover format, no one can resist it! (or maybe no one can resist Neah, it's a tough call.)
Can't wait for a scan with all the omakes and a US release date.
ketorin
December 08, 2010, 10:35 PM
^ yes no one can resist that sexiness that is Allen/Neah on the cover!
relory
December 10, 2010, 01:32 PM
Finally got my hands on a copy on volume 21(shipping from Japan to Norway is suprisingly fast, honestly o.O), and I've *tried* to scan all the extra things not posted before :p
Not retouched or cleaned up, simply because I'm a no0b at scanning x'D
Hope you enjoy! :tem
(WARNING: The pictures are HUGE :o)
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/cover.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_02.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_01.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_04.jpg
Allen is cute :3
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_12.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_06.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_07.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_08.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_09.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_11.jpg
And the musician's code symbols too :zomg <3
Phew!
I hope I didn't forget any :p Please tell me if I should resize the pictures or link to them or something haha :sweat
But I don't have time right now, sorry :darn
Moving the Vol. 21 posts to the Volume Covers thread
Zibi234
December 10, 2010, 01:47 PM
hmmmmmm if I look on the last pic it looks like musican writeing... but in reality its kanji, hiragana and katakana in it xD
it has strange looks becouse all those dots but its in japanese... (lots of kun's and san's there...)
example first bouble contains "koro okaso" later "sonjiou-kun" and more more names.... I suppose its hoshino's thanks to her stuff (assitants maybe) for all the work in this year...
I hope we will get a proper translation from someone ^^
Sydney
December 10, 2010, 01:50 PM
Wow, thank you for scanning the extras. I love all the images with timcampy, everyones reactions are hilarious. I also like the last one. Anything with Neah is great. :)
Niko_kun
December 10, 2010, 02:04 PM
OMG, the backcover is awesome! alma looks good!
Zibi234
December 10, 2010, 02:12 PM
btw. on what chapter that volume 21 ends ?? ch199 or 200 ?
MSofAofCOCA
December 10, 2010, 02:21 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_02.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_07.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_11.jpg
And the musician's code symbols too :zomg <3
right. so. anyone else notice that the symbols/bracelet/tattoo thing on alma's arm are the SAME that are on Bak's??? O.o'
I get this feeling that either Hoshino doesn't like wisely too much, or he is completely based on her and her uh... stress? lol...
If anyone can translate all the txt on these images, i would be very grateful!!
Btw, the 14th's expression. he is the emo child. officialy. >=)
Niko_kun
December 10, 2010, 02:23 PM
btw. on what chapter that volume 21 ends ?? ch199 or 200 ?
199
relory
December 10, 2010, 02:29 PM
hmmmmmm if I look on the last pic it looks like musican writeing... but in reality its kanji, hiragana and katakana in it xD
it has strange looks becouse all those dots but its in japanese... (lots of kun's and san's there...)
Yeah, I noticed that too :p It was both clever and cute, in a way :tem The Code symbols are nice to look at 8'D (the Aesthetic Me is talking) an the clown moon is creepy o_o Reminds me of the Earl, it's probably the evil grin :p
Much praise of volume 21 ahead:
I must say that after comparing the art of volume 1 and volume 21, it astonishes me how much Hoshino-sensei has improved over the years! I've never seen a mangaka developing as much as she has! The art has become so beautiful and detailed(seriously, when I see the latest chapters in book-form, I've decided that I'll never ever complain again about short chapters again :blink she really puts a LOT of work into every scene, and has even retouched all the 'messy-looking' pages ;))!
The mangapanels are much more professional *_* and the storytelling has also improved 8D It's much more "Showing, not telling", I like that ^^ Oh God, I'll just encourage everyone to buy DGM in book form, because you really see the difference :zomg I'm totally gonna buy volume 21 in English too (in the future), and then I'll cut every single page out of this one and frame them and hang all of them in my livingroom cuz they're all so beauuuutiful :zomg :zomg
oh, and of course I forgot one:
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_03.jpg
I would be extremely grateful too if someone could translate these pics! :D
Jaymie
December 10, 2010, 03:45 PM
Do you mind sharing some of the retouched panels? I'm especially interested in Chapters 196 and 197, because the art was a bit wonky in those two chapters.
Niko_kun
December 10, 2010, 09:50 PM
Can anyone tell me the name of the 21 volume? :D
riki
December 10, 2010, 10:02 PM
It's Little Goodbye according to wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D.Gray-man_chapters)
relory
December 10, 2010, 10:07 PM
Do you mind sharing some of the retouched panels? I'm especially interested in Chapters 196 and 197, because the art was a bit wonky in those two chapters.
Sure! :D I love making now-and-then-pics (although I really should go to bed now :p) 8D
Most of these are just cleaned or 'finished', but it really makes a difference! And some are redrawn too :P But I wonder how much the actual raws are 'messy'(or have thicker lines), because there can be a lot of changes when a chapter is scanlated.. but oh well, enjoy again! :D
(all the gray ones are the ones from the volume)
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba0.jpg
Alma's more akuma-ish and the lines are cleaner :D And Kanda is darker >:)
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba1.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba3.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba4.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba2.jpg
I like this! Finally we know for sure Kanda is the one who's talking :D And we can actually see what happened in this panel x'D
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba7.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba5.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba6.jpg
I don't think Hoshino has changed much here, this is just for the love of... HQ scans? :p
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/ba8.jpg
.. for some reason the Earl suddenly has eyelashes :blink IDK I just found that hilarious, it's such a random addition XD well, he is a fangirl I guess?
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/compa/Dec11_14.jpg
My scanner kinda failed x'D But the art improvement is still there.. definitely still there :P
I HAVE to go to bed now :shifty I could perhaps do more tomorrow :sleepy
Asclepius
December 10, 2010, 11:24 PM
YAY! Big hugs for Relory.
I loved the "brain damaged face" on Wisely, he is definately a good source of laugh now.
I thought he'd be a source of scary moments at first sight.
Neah looks like a baby-faced boy with evil intentions. A contrast with the warm smile. I hope he has a cruel side.
Niko_kun
December 11, 2010, 07:46 AM
relory, can you scan the whole volume ? like a raw :D If you can't, thank you anyway :D
relory
December 11, 2010, 08:46 AM
relory, can you scan the whole volume ? like a raw :D If you can't, thank you anyway :D
haha, maybe I should :p But that will probably take... a 'few' hours, I guess :oh just stay tuned x'D
Ah, I feel generous lately 8D It's probably the Christmas atmosphere :tem *hugs everyone* :D
Niko_kun
December 11, 2010, 08:48 AM
haha, maybe I should :p But that will probably take... a 'few' hours, I guess :oh just stay tuned x'D
Ah, I feel generous lately 8D It's probably the Christmas atmosphere :tem *hugs everyone* :D
oooh, really? If you do that, it will be my christimas gift :D thank you :)
Heey, how do you scan it whitout damage your volume ?
I tryed to scan my volume 20 but i was scared to damage it. [sorry for my bad english]
sparviero-92
December 11, 2010, 11:30 AM
Thank you for the scans relory!:D
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_01.jpg
Red text on the 'scroll': New record!
Allen: [ Master...I'm kinda scared now..]
Link: It seems it won't be able to fly...
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_04.jpg
Allen is cute :3
Tim: information
Link: from vol 21 on, the design of the covers will be diferent, it was renewed. Maybe you were startled when you bought it, but it's all right.
This is a volume of D. Gray Man.
Allen: Yoroshiku onegaishimasu!
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_06.jpg
For generations, the Noahs of the Evil Eye, suffer of headaches
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_07.jpg
For generations, the children of the Chan family, as a symbol of the pact with the seal god, are given a tattoo (seal)
For: What are you blushing for?!
It doesn't look cool at all!
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_11.jpg
And the musician's code symbols too :zomg <3
It doesn't say anything apart for Hoshino's "special thanks"
Zibi234
December 11, 2010, 01:34 PM
ehem about the last pic... No it is written in japanese... but you need to drop those dots from your mind ^^
ehh at first try to notice "san" or "kun" at the end ^^ it contains kanji... hiragana and even katakana... it looks like gibberish but the text is well hidden :P
sparviero-92
December 11, 2010, 01:58 PM
I know ^^,
I was meaning that the text in the speech bubbles contained only Hoshino's 'special thanks', nothing too interesting:amuse
Asclepius
December 11, 2010, 02:30 PM
I just played with PS while waiting for the pizza dough to rest ^_^
I'm no pro, but it won't hurt to share the edited extras after relory's raws and sparviero-92's translations were posted.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7125/dgmvol21extra01.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dgmvol21extra01.jpg/) http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5293/dgmvol21extra02.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/i/dgmvol21extra02.jpg/) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1470/dgmvol21extra03.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/dgmvol21extra03.jpg/)
andrewsungchehau
December 11, 2010, 09:39 PM
Thanks relory for the scan and thanks sparviero-92 for the translation.xD
Those changes that Hoshino sensei made are awesome as always.xD
Now we can look forward for more new beautiful volume cover pages.xD Hooray for Hoshino sensei.xD Those extra were cute and nice as well.:D
relory
December 13, 2010, 11:03 AM
I'm really sorry to say this, but you'll have to wait a bit before I have scanned the whole thing :s I just have too much work to do this week before things stabilizes... I'll see if I have time during the weekend? ;)
(attempt to make up for it) I did however find another pic(totally missed it D: ) that I don't think have been scanned before 8D It seems to be linked with the stripper-Allen pic? I'm not sure if it followed with volume 21 or the 3rd novel (yup, bought that too :D things are so cheap over there compared to in Norway it's ridiculous O_o)
I have no idea what's going on again (translation is much appreciated! :tem) but it's Linalee and Kanda(they are fully clothed lol), yay! And Reever with his camera again :D :
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec13_01.jpg
Hopefully see you in the weekend? :ninja I'm always lurking though
Niko_kun
December 13, 2010, 11:12 AM
oooh, no problem =) I'll wait xD
I think that this image is of the 21 volume, a continuation of allen stripper.i'll wait for translation x)
meepers4982
December 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
looking at the raws from the volume and the original scanlations i have to say that the art is much more acceptable because of the thin lines, the thick lines made it feel sloppy and made it difficult to follow what was going on in the story...thanks relory!
ANGELiki
December 13, 2010, 12:16 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec13_01.jpg
BACKSTAGE AT THE PHOTOSHOOT PART 2
Lenalee: Sorry we're late!
Lenalee: Kanda says he'll model for us after all.
Kanda: Cough
Reveer: I... I see. Sorry for the trouble~
Jhonny: Oh Kanda, mind wiping of that blood on your chin first?
Box: Tissues.
Lenalee's boots: Crackle crackle
Bob(or whatever his name is): He's holding his stomach.
Jiji(or however his name is spelled): Kanda's totally holding his stomach.
I didn't do the translate (I wish I could!!)
Asclepius
December 13, 2010, 02:22 PM
At first I thought the image was very cute and sweet with Linalee holding Mugen in one hand and Kanda's hand in the other, but on second look... I think Linalee was violent to Kanda.
I was expecting the other guys to be jealous of Linalee holding Kanda's hand
Zibi234
December 13, 2010, 02:50 PM
nah...mostly kanda refused... but you dont refuse to lenalee now... she gets what she wants... and well she mostly used her boots on him xD
still would like to see a funny stuff like that between allen and lenalee...
luna_wolf
December 14, 2010, 10:19 AM
nah...mostly kanda refused... but you dont refuse to lenalee now... she gets what she wants... and well she mostly used her boots on him xD
still would like to see a funny stuff like that between allen and lenalee...
i wouldnt be surprised if she is the one who said there would be money in it for him if he did it (shes totaly an allen fangirl)
daymn, i cant read japanese, but i cant wait for 2012 when this book will probably be released here. *flies to the magical realm of ebay*
candy
December 14, 2010, 01:52 PM
2012???!!! that's two years away! or did you mean 2011???
Jaymie
December 14, 2010, 02:50 PM
Volume 21 will be out in the United States some time in 2011. Volume 20 is coming out in February, but Volume 21 isn't solicited for May, so that breaks the volume-every-three-months pattern that we've had since the beginning...
MSofAofCOCA
December 14, 2010, 05:46 PM
Volume 21 will be out in the United States some time in 2011. Volume 20 is coming out in February, but Volume 21 isn't solicited for May, so that breaks the volume-every-three-months pattern that we've had since the beginning...
daaaaaaarn. that means i'll only be getting V21 by graduation.... =|
any reason they have to break the pattern? you'd think they'd do this only if she needed to redo the art completely, but these chapters were great!
Jaymie
December 14, 2010, 05:59 PM
daaaaaaarn. that means i'll only be getting V21 by graduation.... =|
any reason they have to break the pattern? you'd think they'd do this only if she needed to redo the art completely, but these chapters were great!
It's probably because Viz has caught up to the Japanese release.
Volume 11 US - November 2008
Volume 17 JP - December 2008
Volume 12 US - February 2009
Volume 13 US - May 2009
Volume 18 JP - June 2009
Volume 14 US - August 2009
Volume 15 US - November 2009
Volume 19 JP - December 2009
Volume 16 US - February 2010
Volume 17 US - May 2010
Volume 20 JP - June 2010
Volume 18 US - August 2010
Volume 19 US - November 2010
Volume 21 JP - December 2010
Volume 20 US - February 2011
Volume 21 US - May 2011
Volume 22 JP - June 2011?
Volume 22 US - August 2011
Volume 23 US - November 2011
Volume 23 JP - December 2011?
As you can see, by Volume 22 we would've been basically getting volumes 2 months after they were released in Japan, and then we would be getting Volume 23 before it was even out in Japan!
That's impossible, so Viz had to delay Volume 21 to accommodate that.
Mango-chan
December 14, 2010, 10:14 PM
Oh Lenalee, why so violent? Let the guy meditate and eat noodles while Allen does questionable things. (that's a slippery slope, Allen! D: )
I'm guessing volume 21 will be out in the US around September-October.
Rikulaw
December 20, 2010, 11:34 AM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec10_12.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad344/NeoNoWay/Dec13_01.jpg
If someone (that own a copy) notice, both of those hilarious story are back stage for The Rose Cross Journal 1 & 2 cover. Not the volume cover.
(Someone remember? This very short newspaper of Black Order was first introduced in Reverse 2, though the name itself first used in Gray Ark)
Both are extra from vol 21 and reverse 3 and featured the updated profile of the model. There's a high chance that there will be more of The Rose Cross Journal in future.
Niko_kun
December 20, 2010, 02:17 PM
Hey, there's a thread for the novels :D http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32740
Rikulaw
December 20, 2010, 08:00 PM
Hey, there's a thread for the novels :D http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32740
Well, yeah. I'm really sorry. Riki-san already noted me last night about that. But it's almost morning here at that time so I'm sleeping. I'll edit my post now. X<
As an apology, I've uploaded the full cover on gallery. Be careful a bit because I'm not resizing it. (4464 x 2064 px) ^^a
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/13426 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/d-gray-man/13426)
Once again, I'm really sorry... X<
Niko_kun
December 20, 2010, 09:49 PM
Well, yeah. I'm really sorry. Riki-san already noted me last night about that. But it's almost morning here at that time so I'm sleeping. I'll edit my post now. X<
As an apology, I've uploaded the full cover on gallery. Be careful a bit because I'm not resizing it. (4464 x 2064 px) ^^a
http://static.mangahelpers.com/gallery-thumbnails/13426 (http://mangahelpers.com/gallery/d-gray-man/13426)
Once again, I'm really sorry... X<
O that's nothing. I really want to know what's write in her coments on this cover. xD
harmaa
December 28, 2010, 02:28 PM
Anyone manage to scan the whole volume yet?
luna_wolf
December 28, 2010, 02:41 PM
if no one has by the 10th (when mine arives) ill scan mine <3
Niko_kun
December 28, 2010, 02:53 PM
why don't you scan now ? it'll be a present for 2011 :D
luna_wolf
December 28, 2010, 02:58 PM
if no one has by the 10th (when mine arives) ill scan mine <3
if it arives earlier i will scan it then, but the 10th is the earlliest aparently it will arive XD
fingers crossed it will arive soon!
Niko_kun
December 28, 2010, 03:28 PM
if it arives earlier i will scan it then, but the 10th is the earlliest aparently it will arive XD
fingers crossed it will arive soon!
OO got it. You don't have the volume with you, right ? :P
luna_wolf
December 28, 2010, 03:50 PM
XD
if i did, i wouldnt be here, i would be curled up on somthing soft, stroking it gently whispering sweet nothings into its pages....wait what
<_<
>_>
<_<
>_>
Asclepius
December 29, 2010, 08:36 AM
/\ hehehe, she sounds cute
When you get your volume, ask relory which pages were already scanned. She is doing it, but it's a lot of pages.
luna_wolf
December 29, 2010, 08:56 AM
>////<
will do!
karoniokta
January 03, 2011, 04:31 PM
I tried translating Hoshino's message/comment on volume 21, in the little foldy-page thing.. and came up a really bad translation. XD
Instead, I'll post what is written there and you can try to translate it for yourself:
I just put them in spoiler tags to make less space..
Japanese writing:
仕事部屋は自宅とアトリエとひとつずつあるのですが, どうしても自宅の仕事部屋のほうがインチリアを凝ってしまってアトリエのほうはおざなり~のバッチイ状態。
でも滞在時間はアトリエのがはるかに上回ってるんだよなあってことで, ちょびっとだけアトリエの仕事部屋を可愛くしてみた今日この頃。
でもやっぱりバッチイのは変わらない...。
My Bad translation of this:
One by one, I’m spending more time in my home, workroom and studio, But time spent in the studio is pointless.
But much time spent in the studio far exceeds that in the lovely workroom.
But it’s all the same…
Does that make any sense at all?
I think a proper translator should look at it. xP Or just wait a year for the VIZ translation.. >.<
TitaniumChloride
January 04, 2011, 07:50 AM
@karoniokta: Nice try with the translation. It seems that there's some things from the original text that you've completely skipped over though...? o_O The Text Glossing part of this site should help with that. (http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1C)
I'm not 100% sure myself, but I think it's more to do with the state of the workrooms in her home and her studio. She's quite meticulous with the interior of her home workroom (e.g. a bit obsessive with how it looks), but she's more lax with the studio one (e.g. it's messier there). Since she spends a lot more time at the studio though, she recently prettied it up a bit (hence the picture in the sleeve?) but it's still kinda messy...
karoniokta
January 04, 2011, 08:12 AM
@ TitaniumChloride: Yeah, I completely skipped some parts of the text that really didn't make sense to me. Your explanation makes a lot more sense.
Reading it over, I think it's one-by-one, her workrooms are getting a little messier. XD
Thanks for that helpful website as well!
oOCrystalOo
January 12, 2011, 02:12 PM
I did some editing for some pages..:D
Thank you so so much relory for all the scan you did..^0^
Edit Chapter 193.5<<Thanks aorin for the scan and the translation..^^
Page 01 (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7512/92513279.png) - Page 02 (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3333/29714150.png) - Page 03 (http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/5631/75276392.png)
Edit The Backstage:
Part 01 (http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9538/alleni.png) - Part 02 (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8547/kandac.png)
<<I don't know who translate them
But Thanks you for the translation..
And i edit Link and Allen Thing<<I don't know why did i edit this..-__-
Here.. (http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6076/link01y.jpg)<<Thank you so much sparviero-92 for all the translation..
Sorry for the bad Editing..:p
Hope you like it..;)
fuff
January 12, 2011, 03:31 PM
I did some editing for some pages..:D
Thank you so so much relory for all the scan you did..^0^
Edit Chapter 193.5<<Thanks aorin for the scan and the translation..^^
Page 01 (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7512/92513279.png) - Page 02 (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3333/29714150.png) - Page 03 (http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/5631/75276392.png)
Edit The Backstage:
Part 01 (http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9538/alleni.png) - Part 02 (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8547/kandac.png)
<<I don't know who translate them
But Thanks you for the translation..
And i edit Link and Allen Thing<<I don't know why did i edit this..-__-
Here.. (http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6076/link01y.jpg)<<Thank you so much sparviero-92 for all the translation..
Sorry for the bad Editing..:p
Hope you like it..;)
thanks!! is it just me or does the guy who fou is caring has allen's hair...maybe those are his parents? maybe thats y fou kinda got along with allen???
Asclepius
January 12, 2011, 04:02 PM
thanks!! is it just me or does the guy who fou is caring has allen's hair...maybe those are his parents? maybe thats y fou kinda got along with allen???
Those are Bak Chan's parents. That is also one of the reasons for Bak Chan feeling so guilty in front of Kanda in chapter 186.
relory
January 12, 2011, 04:22 PM
Thank you so much for sharing, oOCrystalOo! :tem
*still very amused by those photoshoot omakes* :D
I am only happy to be able to help x'3 I wish I could scan the whole volume right now, but I currently don't have a scanner D: (blame my dad :notrust)... I have begun though, a not-too-great raw scan of chapter 194 is on my hard disc x'D I'll scan the rest as soon as I can (if people want to), if not someone does it before me!
Niko_kun
January 12, 2011, 04:52 PM
can you post what you scan so far? :^D
relory
January 12, 2011, 05:41 PM
can you post what you scan so far? :^D
Sure X'D Hopefully I did it right:
LINK (http://www.easy-share.com/1913541978/VOLUME 21 RAW - 10pagesfail .rar)
The pages are not re-sized, just because I'm an ass I don't have time right now :( so the .rar-file is kind of big, I guess... please bear with me, everyone! :s
I was just thinking, by the way, while looking at the cover again.. you know Allen's eating habits and how they're linked to the innocence, right? I was just sort of thinking.. What if when Allen turns into a Noah, he supresses this convenient... fat-burning(?) together with his innocence..? And with Nea wanting to become the "new Millenium Earl"... Maybe Rhode actually is a clairvoyant, and sees the future Allen/Nea turned into the Millenium Earl back in chapter 117 (http://www.mangareader.net/210-15208-8/dgray-man/chapter-117.html)... :blink
I won't sleep tonight ಠ_ಠ
Asclepius
January 12, 2011, 06:17 PM
At first i thought she just remembered the Earl's sword like "his sword is the same as the Earl's". But your idea fits the picture also.
Will Wisely ever see that in her mind? I hope so if she can foresee. I doubt she will mention that by herself.
Niko_kun
January 12, 2011, 06:42 PM
Sure X'D Hopefully I did it right:
LINK (http://www.easy-share.com/1913541978/VOLUME 21 RAW - 10pagesfail .rar)
The pages are not re-sized, just because I'm an ass I don't have time right now :( so the .rar-file is kind of big, I guess... please bear with me, everyone! :s
I was just thinking, by the way, while looking at the cover again.. you know Allen's eating habits and how they're linked to the innocence, right? I was just sort of thinking.. What if when Allen turns into a Noah, he supresses this convenient... fat-burning(?) together with his innocence..? And with Nea wanting to become the "new Millenium Earl"... Maybe Rhode actually is a clairvoyant, and sees the future Allen/Nea turned into the Millenium Earl back in chapter 117 (http://www.mangareader.net/210-15208-8/dgray-man/chapter-117.html)... :blink
I won't sleep tonight ಠ_ಠ
You could be right! xD But is a funny theory... Allen fat, it would be funny!
ruinedshadows
January 15, 2011, 09:50 AM
I was just thinking, by the way, while looking at the cover again.. you know Allen's eating habits and how they're linked to the innocence, right? I was just sort of thinking.. What if when Allen turns into a Noah, he supresses this convenient... fat-burning(?) together with his innocence..? And with Nea wanting to become the "new Millenium Earl"... Maybe Rhode actually is a clairvoyant, and sees the future Allen/Nea turned into the Millenium Earl back in chapter 117 (http://www.mangareader.net/210-15208-8/dgray-man/chapter-117.html)... :blink
I won't sleep tonight ಠ_ಠ
If you look closely, the Earl in that picture, in addition to wearing the same hat he wore on the night of Mana's transformation into an akuma (http://www.mangareader.net/210-15094-14/dgray-man/chapter-3.html#14), also has a picture of a crown on his coat. And his hands look strange... almost like the ribbon that Allen wore like a tie in the beginning of the series -> http://www.mangareader.net/210-15094-2/dgray-man/chapter-3.html#2 *I'm too lazy to look up a better picture, but I recall it being red, since that's how I've always drawn it*
Coincidently, in Allen's weird mind-trip back in Chapter 198 when he first met/saw Neah, they're both wearing similar ribbons -> http://www.mangareader.net/210-57363-13/dgray-man/chapter-198.html#14 I think the ribbons must have something to do with linking Allen, Neah, and the Earl together. I wouldn't be surprised if the Earl wore one in his human form, or if there's some picture floating around of Mana wearing one.
This is kind of unrelated, but I've heard a red ribbon around the neck can represent slitting one's throat, or just death. What with all the things linking Allen/Neah to great Destruction, I'd say this isn't a coincidence.
I must be rambling and/or restating lots and lots of old stuff at this point. XD Also, the figure of the Earl in that picture appears to be much taller than Allen. (If you compare them on the actual volume, it appears much more obvious) Maybe there's going to be some kind of time skip at some point? Or perhaps since the Earl has both his normal form and a human one, maybe Allen will end up doing the same?
Either way, imagining Allen masquerading as the Earl like that seriously freaks me out. :D Kudos to you for pointing that out, relory!
Lomahongva
February 01, 2011, 06:17 PM
Could somebody help me? The spanish edition of the D. Gray-Man series don't have the series's inner covers (they even don't respect the original typography of the logo) so I'm searching them through Internet. Now the only ones I've been unable to find are those form Vol. 3 and Vol. 15 I'd tried to download it from the link Dofla posted some time ago but the archive is erased.
I one of you know where I can get it I'd be very pleased. It doesn't matter if they are translated (text) or raw.
ruinedshadows
February 01, 2011, 06:23 PM
Could somebody help me? The spanish edition of the D. Gray-Man series don't have the series's inner covers (they even don't respect the original typography of the logo) so I'm searching them through Internet. Now the only ones I've been unable to find are those form Vol. 3 and Vol. 15 I'd tried to download it from the link Dofla posted some time ago but the archive is erased.
I one of you know where I can get it I'd be very pleased. It doesn't matter if they are translated (text) or raw.
Are you talking about the little blurbs Hoshino puts on the inner covers of all the volumes? If so, I have all the volumes in English up to volume 19 (the last one to be released), all of which have the blurbs translated, and I can easily transcribe them here for you. If you want I could definitely also scan the pictures that go with them (and in those cases I have the untranslated blurbs with their pictures for volumes 20 and 21 as well).
If that's not what you meant, then you'll have to be more specific, as I have no idea what you're talking about. :s
Lomahongva
February 01, 2011, 06:29 PM
Are you talking about the little blurbs Hoshino puts on the inner covers of all the volumes? If so, I have all the volumes in English up to volume 19 (the last one to be released), all of which have the blurbs translated, and I can easily transcribe them here for you. If you want I could definitely also scan the pictures that go with them (and in those cases I have the untranslated blurbs with their pictures for volumes 20 and 21 as well).
If that's not what you meant, then you'll have to be more specific, as I have no idea what you're talking about. :s
Well, I'm talking about the images/little storys that are in the inner covers (ex.: Vol. 19 when Cyryl tries to change Tyky's appearance 'cuz him's very messy and the Earl brings him Wisely), so I think yeah, they're the blurbs.
If this is it yeesss I'd we very pleased if you could give me the scripts and scans:D (from 3th and 15). In that case I'll talk to you or I'll send you a PM.
ruinedshadows
February 01, 2011, 06:37 PM
Well, I'm talking about the images/little storys that are in the inner covers (ex.: Vol. 19 when Cyryl tries to change Tyky's appearance 'cuz him's very messy and the Earl brings him Wisely), so I think yeah, they're the blurbs.
If this is it yeesss I'd we very pleased if you could give me the scripts and scans:D (from 3th and 15). In that case I'll talk to you or I'll send you a PM.
Oh, the bonus manga that are usually on the insides of the covers? I thought you were talking about the blurbs that she puts on the actual cover flaps. Now I know what you're talking about.
For some reason Viz Media/Shonen Jump seems to be very inconsistent with which bonus materials they put in the volumes. I checked, and all I can find for the 19th volume are the blurb from the cover flap and the little 4-koma comics she has. However, I have that volume in Japanese and I see what you were referring to. :/
For the third volume I can't find any bonus materials at all other than the cover-blurb.
As for the 15th volume, though, I found a bunch of bonus images in the Viz-translated version. I don't know where they're from, but I'll scan them and PM them to you as soon as I can. :)
Jaymie
February 01, 2011, 07:16 PM
Viz usually includes entire drawings, but if Hoshino does a 4koma, Viz butchers it.
On a related note, my Volume 20 is on its way! Let's see if they do a good job this time.
(Volume 19 was a mess. They referred to Marie as a "she", they literally translated all of the Noahs names, so we got "Waizurii", "Maitora", "Fiidora", etc., and Alma said "they say you're name is Yuu", which stood out like a sore thumb)
Niko_kun
February 01, 2011, 07:18 PM
If you want to see the extras, you can download the raw of the volumes! If you want, i send to you in private message a web that contain the raws of vol 01 to 20. 21 it's not available.
harmaa
February 01, 2011, 07:32 PM
Still waiting on a raw of 21... :( Lots of people have said they're going to scan it, but nothing's been posted.
Sydney
February 01, 2011, 08:22 PM
(Volume 19 was a mess. They referred to Marie as a "she", they literally translated all of the Noahs names, so we got "Waizurii", "Maitora", "Fiidora", etc., and Alma said "they say you're name is Yuu", which stood out like a sore thumb)
I agree with this. Viz used to do such a good job on the earlier volumes that I didn't mind buying them. I prefer to have the actual manga in front of me, but it seems they are doing a poor job recently. And this isn't the first time they translated Marie as a "she." I know Marie is a female name, but he doesn't look feminine at all. I don't see how they can have such a horrible mistake.
ketorin
February 01, 2011, 09:42 PM
I just got my volume 20 and it doesn't seem like they did too bad of a job. (I'll need to examine it a bit closer) Though the Noah's names are still the literal translation which is just weird. At least they got Edgar's name right.
They've always just been pretty bad on the names and stuff. In some of my volumes Lavi will randomly be Rabi and Reever Riba. Quite annoying.
Personally not even the earlier volumes were that great either.
I hate how they turned 'womb' into Mother's Body. womb sounds a whole lot better. These Viz guys need to learn a thing or two from our translators here.
Jaymie
February 02, 2011, 11:15 AM
The first four volumes were hit-or-miss. We got lots of Linali's, Riba's, Rabi's, etc., but after volume five things started to stabilize.
Though I believe they do sometimes spell Komui as Kamui, even in the later volumes. And they can't seem to decide on Lvellie's real name. Revelier, Rouvelier, or Rouverlier? They're all wrong, but they could at least go with one of them.
Niko_kun
February 15, 2011, 08:02 PM
OMG, I just bought my 21 volume today! Its sooooo beautiful! I can't scan it right now, but i'll do it this saturday (02/18) or next Saturday (02/25), so I will reveal some details about the volume:
The volume contain a poster of Allen and Kanda (that pic that was cover of Jump SQ last year).
There's a lot of change in the images, Hoshino re-draw many things and it's so beautiful! I loved!
That poster of strip Allen is on the volume, but that poster of Lenalee and Kanda (section of photos 2) didn't come with the volume.. =// (maybe in the 22 volume?)
And for the end, this volume is saying that volume 22 will be on sale on June/2011. That's it. When I scan the volume, i'll post it here.
*the volume is so amazing, i'm freaking out!*
luna_wolf
February 16, 2011, 12:07 PM
That poster of strip Allen is on the volume, but that poster of Lenalee and Kanda (section of photos 2) didn't come with the volume.. =// (maybe in the 22 volume?)
the kanda and lenalee one is with the third reverse novel.
I completely agree with niko, she definatly worked hard on making this volume extra pretty!
I'm still trying to figure out my new printer/scanner settings, because it only picks up black and strong colour. it wont pick up greys and the instruction manual is seriously unhelpful. when i finally get the damn thing to work, ill help scan the novel
I wonder what will be on the front cover of the new book!
i wouldn't mind something innocence orientated, because I love the way Hoshino recently drew the feathery innocence.
Niko_kun
February 16, 2011, 01:44 PM
the kanda and lenalee one is with the third reverse novel.
I completely agree with niko, she definatly worked hard on making this volume extra pretty!
I'm still trying to figure out my new printer/scanner settings, because it only picks up black and strong colour. it wont pick up greys and the instruction manual is seriously unhelpful. when i finally get the damn thing to work, ill help scan the novel
I wonder what will be on the front cover of the new book!
i wouldn't mind something innocence orientated, because I love the way Hoshino recently drew the feathery innocence.
I was thinking about that! Maybe the cardinal and some noahs? Anyway, I love every draw that Hoshino make. ^^
Lomahongva
February 23, 2011, 01:04 PM
Mmm the idea of the cardinal for the 22th volume sounds great...I'd like it in the front cover... and Sheryl and the other Noah in the back or maybe with Bookman.
Thanks for the link, Niko_kun, I found the drawing I didn't have.
And for the quality of the volumes, I've noticed some diferences between them. In Spain and France, D. Gray-Man is published by Glénat, a French publisher, but the're some differences: in France, they add the extras and also the inner covers I was looking for (I've volumes 6, 7 and 19 in French). They also respect the typography for the serie's logo, which they don't do in Spain, but some panels seem of bad quality (I think they're a bit blurred) and some dialogues difficult to read (when there's a little space for the character's lines). In the other hand, the Spanish edition is a bit little but, they add an extra space in the spine of the volume to let you read it better (I mean, sometimes you had to force the book when the dialogues are too near of the spine). But in the rest of the terms I think they're good editions, without name's spelling mistakes or things like that.
Niko_kun
February 23, 2011, 02:48 PM
Mmm the idea of the cardinal for the 22th volume sounds great...I'd like it in the front cover... and Sheryl and the other Noah in the back or maybe with Bookman.
Thanks for the link, Niko_kun, I found the drawing I didn't have.
And for the quality of the volumes, I've noticed some diferences between them. In Spain and France, D. Gray-Man is published by Glénat, a French publisher, but the're some differences: in France, they add the extras and also the inner covers I was looking for (I've volumes 6, 7 and 19 in French). They also respect the typography for the serie's logo, which they don't do in Spain, but some panels seem of bad quality (I think they're a bit blurred) and some dialogues difficult to read (when there's a little space for the character's lines). In the other hand, the Spanish edition is a bit little but, they add an extra space in the spine of the volume to let you read it better (I mean, sometimes you had to force the book when the dialogues are too near of the spine). But in the rest of the terms I think they're good editions, without name's spelling mistakes or things like that.
Hey, you're welcome :) and about the volumes, here where i live, D.G is publishing by panini (a brazilian publisher). They include everything that japanese volumes contain. But sometimes, they don't publish the draws of d gray man fans (of Japan). But it's ok... they put even the posters. So, i like they work.
Asclepius
May 16, 2011, 12:58 AM
Hehehe, Lenalee looks cute. Really big hips there.
But i wasn't expecting her to be on this cover.
Mango-chan
May 16, 2011, 01:38 AM
That cover fits really well with the last panel of Ch. 205. Man, Lenalee hasn't had a cover to herself in ages!
Asclepius
May 16, 2011, 02:30 AM
That cover fits really well with the last panel of Ch. 205. Man, Lenalee hasn't had a cover to herself in ages!
Agree. Only now i can see the Ark Portal behing her, after turning the contrast and brightness back up (i use them low when i have headaches).
Jaymie
May 16, 2011, 05:59 AM
I actually really like this cover.
Lenalee hasn't been on a cover since like... Volume 13. And even then, it was just a part of Lavi's flashback.
I'll cry if there's any blue or purple in the cover. And I'm absolutely certain that at least one of those colors will be present...
Teeba
May 16, 2011, 07:24 AM
^ Hoshino?? Doing a volume without purple? :lmao
Oh wow, this cover. :wtf This is such a pleasant surprise to me. This is....this is the first time I've liked a cover ever since Hoshino moved to Jump SQ. T_T I'm so happy, thank you for finding this, Heiji-sama!
Also, I like how Lenalee has her thundering thighs back again. They were missed!
Edit: Is it just me or can I make out the title of the volume under the "22"? Does it say "Fate"?
Naomidee
May 16, 2011, 07:56 AM
Yes, thank you for posting! This really is a great cover. I can't wait to see it in full swing. I'm sure the colors are going to be fantastic. And yeah, I didn't notice the Ark in the background at first either. !!! I'm so excited!
Though the cover with Tyki, Road, and Allen is still my favorite of them all by far. :D
Niko_kun
May 16, 2011, 11:13 AM
I think this cover will have purple. Seems like hoshino loves purple xD Lenalee is so cute in this cover, really like this!
Googlez_kun
May 16, 2011, 11:17 AM
Quite a cool cover.Hoshino's covers were rather lame lately,including this one,but i still like it,even though it could be better knowing Hoshino's incredible art.She did mention that she only wants to draw covers she likes from volume 11(?) onward,though.
NAM61
May 16, 2011, 12:29 PM
i like the Lenalee cover she looks good in it
Lomahongva
May 16, 2011, 01:03 PM
:eyeroll Wow, I love it!!! Thanks for posting it here, Heiji-sama. Yeah, my idea of having Lenalee in the cover was true (although I'd also though she would be with Allen...). Yes, it was time for Lenalee to have an own cover... She looks very pretty and I like a lot the way she waves her hair. But her hips...Komui won't like it XDD.
Of course there'll be purple in it. It's Hoshino's beloved colour!!! And it suits weell Lenalee's hair, apart of black.
@ Teeba: Yes, it's title is "Fate", the title of chapter 203: "Fate-Conciousness".
Niko_kun
May 16, 2011, 03:49 PM
Hey, i was thinking... the "dgm logo" now is different since the 21 volume, and now, allen let the order and will keep walking by himself. So, its meaning that dgm is on the middle of the story? O_O (i don't know if i can post it here)
Asclepius
May 16, 2011, 03:53 PM
After Naruto discussion about that and seeing the manga past 500 chapter and certainly going to last 2 more years (100 more chapters) at least, i don't dare to wonder such thing about any manga for now.
^_^
Niko_kun
May 16, 2011, 04:28 PM
makes sense. Like Bleach, 10 more years T__T (but if dgm continue for 10 more years, i don't care xD)
Googlez_kun
May 16, 2011, 05:00 PM
I wouldn't want D.Gray-Man to continue for such a long time.I love this manga,but that's why i don't want to see it ruined (like Bleach).DGM has a certain plot which was followed from the very beginning,so i don't want Hoshino to make up some weird new stories that don't fit in at all.
I still wonder what this sidelogo means,though.
Jaymie
May 16, 2011, 07:32 PM
DGM is definitely going to last a while. It's hard to believe that it only has 22 volumes. Bleach nearly has 50, Naruto is reaching 60, and One Piece is reaching 70.
Hopefully Hoshino can make slightly larger chapters to... pick up the pace a little. AnE averages 40, so even ten more pages a month would bring things a long way.
earthforge
May 16, 2011, 08:42 PM
Think DGM is more likely to reach 45 volumes. We seem to be about halfway through the series, with many but not all of the main players introduced, and the plot finding it's direction. I agree with Jaymie, Hoshino could greatly improve her mileage sotospeak. That goes against the effect Hoshino might desire, which is to maximize the emotional impact of this arc.
Lovely cover. I'm glad Lenalee is getting attention, she's likely to not have much after the most recent chapter.
Naomidee
May 16, 2011, 10:06 PM
^ Yes, we're probably going to see a lot less of Lenalee now. I think you're spot on with that one. I'm really afraid that we're going to have Allen disappear for a long time, as well as Link and Lvellie. We've just had a major turn of events for all three of these characters, and I want answers immediately! *so impatient* DDDDDD8
Although I have this feeling things might go back to Lavi and Bookman. Now that Allen's left, it's safe to reveal some more secrets over The Fourteenth. But wouldn't it be heaven if we got to see both Allen,Link,Lvellie AND Lavi,Bookman? *wishful thinking for sure*
I think you guys are right about D.Gray-Man being around halfway through. And I don't see Hoshino dragging out the plot after she's concluded whatever's cooking in her head right now. I wonder if she has everything unfurled in her mind already, or if she's improving anything along the way?? That's what I would like to know! The fact that I can't tell makes her a good mangaka I believe. :D
I don't read Bleach, Naruto, or One Piece so I don't know anything about them being ruined at all. However, I did read Katekyo Hitman Reborn! for a bit. And let me tell you, THAT story line has been dragged through a field full of nails and I really dislike it now. It would be a nightmare if that happened to DGM.
non-chan
May 30, 2011, 08:08 AM
Vol.22's Color version:
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/chet_yeu/978-4-08-870240-7.jpg
It's good to me when it's less purple than I imagined
Asclepius
May 30, 2011, 08:24 AM
A little bigger version:
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5862/dgmvolume22.jpg
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I think the socks (is there another name for that?) should be dark, almost everything looks very pretty apart from the pink part on the hair.
Since i dislike pink, i didn't like the pink shoes and innocence.
Googlez_kun
May 30, 2011, 08:28 AM
I don't like the hair.The only thing that kinda 'saves' the hair is the pink touch.Other than that,the cover is rather awesome.
non-chan
May 30, 2011, 08:31 AM
Lenalee's hair just makes me think of Stocking's.
@Asclepius: it's called 'stocking' ^^
Googlez_kun
May 30, 2011, 08:36 AM
Lenalee's hair just makes me think of Stocking's hair.
@Asclepius: it's called 'stocking' ^^
Now that you mention it,she looks like Stocking!
Does anybody know how many chapters this volume covers?
Teeba
May 30, 2011, 09:42 AM
O_O The colors look realistic! When was the last time the Black Order's uniform's piping was depicted as red? @_@
And yeah, it looks like Hoshino was watching Panty and Stocking last summer. xD
The background is darker than I imagined, but the whole this is beautifully rendered (colored).
ying_su
May 30, 2011, 09:51 AM
I just love the cover!
xD
Naomidee
May 30, 2011, 11:12 AM
Ahhhh. *_* Beautiful! Hoshino's done it again. She just doesn't disappoint me ever. I'm beginning to think she has me completely brainwashed. XD This is very girly, but that's different than usual and I really love that about it. I hope that boys won't be embarrassed to be seen reading it just because it's pretty feminine. Maybe that's why she also made it pretty sexy. ;D
Jaymie
May 30, 2011, 02:09 PM
Much better than I anticipated. I love the lack of purple. I think the Exorcists' uniform looks better when it's colored using red or pink, and not purple like what Hoshino used in 2009/2010.
Lomahongva
May 30, 2011, 02:20 PM
Does anybody know how many chapters this volume covers?
It has 6 chapters, form ch. 200 to ch. 205.
Wow, finally in color!!! It's awesome and yes, it is more realistic in its colors, at least, according to what we'd seen about the official version of Black Order's uniforms. The expression on Lenalee's face is so sad... I love it!
@Asclepius: well, I think they're not pink, just a color between pink and light (?) purple. In spanish I'll say they're fucsia... For the Innocence, it seems that Hoshino has employed a deep red pencil more than a red one. Same for the uniform's adorments, except the buttons. And I like then more than purple, wich seems to me too much darker. In the other hand, fucsia and deep red are more feminine (but this is only my opinion ;)
fuff
May 30, 2011, 04:36 PM
A little bigger version:
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5862/dgmvolume22.jpg
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I think the socks (is there another name for that?) should be dark, almost everything looks very pretty apart from the pink part on the hair.
Since i dislike pink, i didn't like the pink shoes and innocence.
the pink and purple hair colour reminds me of the stocking from panty and stockings lol
also y is hoshino colouring lena's hair purple when its green
Mango-chan
May 30, 2011, 04:51 PM
@Fuff: I thought of Stocking too. xD
Wait wait wait, where is all the purple?
Jaymie
May 30, 2011, 05:20 PM
Lenalee's hair isn't green either. It's black. Hoshino said a while ago that she likes to play with the characters' colors.
Niko_kun
May 30, 2011, 06:13 PM
I really need to say that this cover is just awesome... Hoshino always do a good work! love her style <3
Naomidee
May 30, 2011, 08:51 PM
I pretty sure Lenalee's hair was only ever greenish in the anime.
Asclepius
May 30, 2011, 10:40 PM
I don't remember Lenalee's hair color from anime. I only remember that she had it with blue, green and white brithness in those cards.
But then, i don't know who colored those cards.
It's really something close to green, right?
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5966/lenaleecard.jpg
ketorin
May 30, 2011, 10:43 PM
Did you guys forget the volume 3 cover? Her hair is highlighted green.
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-comics-2007/2813-1.jpg
Naomidee
May 31, 2011, 12:52 AM
Wow, that's right. It is highlighted very green there. Let's just agree that Lenalee's hair is rainbow.
But holy crap you guys. Juxtaposing that volume 3 cover with the most recent one... Look at how different!
andrewsungchehau
May 31, 2011, 04:22 AM
YES!!! Another awesome volume cover from DGM!!! xD Didn't expect volume 22 to be release in June so it's awesome. xD
relory
May 31, 2011, 07:35 AM
Such a beautiful cover! *A* I like the style and colours Hoshino used, the colouring style was surprising, but I love it! :D
It's amazing how far Hoshino's come since vol#3! O_O Just look at the anatomy improvement <3
In canon, Lenalee's hair is black, but the reflecting light seem to change(just Hoshino playing around like with Allen's scar) :P
... Lets just say that Lenalee's hair now reflects the purple world Hoshino has turned DGM into :'D
How do you think this volume will do? I wouldn't be surprised if it sells quite well just because of the cover; Lenalee is very popular in Japan, and hasn't had a cover in ages ^^
Asclepius
May 31, 2011, 07:48 AM
Well, volume 22 contains the very end of Kanda arc, so it might keep the 400-450k copies of sales. Maybe more cause of the cover. ^_^
Kanda fans + Lenalee fans = double win. :P
Niko_kun
May 31, 2011, 10:10 AM
i'm pretty sure that it will sell more than 500.000 copies. This volume has what lot of fans of dgm wanted: Allen leaving the order! I expect at least 450.000 ~ 500.000 copies in the first week :))
ca12nag3
May 31, 2011, 10:36 AM
I like it but i still think the vol3 cover is more Lenalee-DGM. I dunno how else to explain it but it just doesnt strike me with awe like other covers. Maybe its the colors or the pose i dunno. The last great cover for me was perhaps cover 20. I got all the volumes released in english, so ill ofc but 22 when its out but the cover slightly disapoints me.
I think its the colorchoice ^^"
Or maybe that its getting out of sync with the arcs in the volumes i dunno.
Thing is most covers would stick to the arc up till lately. I just expect a Apo cover and a Alma cover but we didnt get one. (Sadly)
Niko_kun
May 31, 2011, 10:54 AM
I like it but i still think the vol3 cover is more Lenalee-DGM. I dunno how else to explain it but it just doesnt strike me with awe like other covers. Maybe its the colors or the pose i dunno. The last great cover for me was perhaps cover 20. I got all the volumes released in english, so ill ofc but 22 when its out but the cover slightly disapoints me.
I think its the colorchoice ^^"
Or maybe that its getting out of sync with the arcs in the volumes i dunno.
Thing is most covers would stick to the arc up till lately. I just expect a Apo cover and a Alma cover but we didnt get one. (Sadly)
But this volume has a "B" cover, like the 21 where were alma(akuma), kandaxalma kids, zuu, bak etc. We didn't see this second cover already.
Lomahongva
May 31, 2011, 10:55 AM
Well, we don't know what characters Hoshino will choose for the backcover (Link perhaps and transformed Thirds? or maybe only Link, Sherryl and Fiddler?) and the volume's inner cover (the funny one). And there's also the character/s for the thanks page, do you remember Neah in the 21st? ^^
Naomidee
May 31, 2011, 11:57 AM
You're right, Lomahongva. I forget that there's still so much more to see. :D It's really exciting. Too bad the US won't get to see this volume in English for quite a bit longer. ;-; Seeing the back cover and everything else will be great. And if anyone gets the volume right away and sees some of the pages that Hoshino had touched up or redrawn, please post some comparisons!
riki
June 01, 2011, 09:29 AM
From 2ch:
Pics from Vol. 22
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/sakuraxsyaoran/th_backcover.jpg (http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/sakuraxsyaoran/?action=view¤t=backcover.jpg)
back cover
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/sakuraxsyaoran/th_vol22omake.jpg (http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/sakuraxsyaoran/?action=view¤t=vol22omake.jpg)
omake
non-chan
June 01, 2011, 09:33 AM
Thanks a lot, riki :D
As expected, we have the Apo guy (sorry, I've tried but I can't remember his name:darn) and Link (plus Tykki and Road) on the back.:D
Link's hair is well-colored. I think the color scheme is going back to the way it used to be. :D
And I wonder what makes Allen so angry (or happy) that he shivered like that.
Mango-chan
June 01, 2011, 09:51 AM
Rainbow tease!
Tyki and Road probably charged Allen for that breakout. 8D
Asclepius
June 01, 2011, 09:55 AM
Apo is white... ewwwwwwwwwwwww. :barf
Nice backcover, but i prefer gray Tyki over brown Tyki. Brown and purple don't match well and his hand is purple from his Noah power thing.
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Oh shit, the butterflies are orange and green. :barf
:rant Bring back my purple butterflies now!
Googlez_kun
June 01, 2011, 10:07 AM
I knew Apo was white!Anyway,great backcover!I even prefer it over the actual cover.
Niko_kun
June 01, 2011, 10:30 AM
HAHAH i knew this! Hoshino put the apo-kun on the back cover! Yay
Asclepius
June 01, 2011, 10:39 AM
oh, is the volume 19 the first one on Jump SQ?
The sales numbers:
DGM 15: 632,495
DGM 16: 578,669
DGM 17: 636,506
DGM 18: 525,802
DGM 19: 577,093
DGM 20: 528,924
DGM 21: 526,455
From the Top Selling Lists of years 2008-2009-2010-2011
aorin
June 01, 2011, 10:40 AM
Wow, that's a pretty cover! 8D And the back cover looks amazing too even if Apo-san somehow managed to make it despite only appearing for three chapters or so =.= Anyway, Lenalee looks gorgeous~
Niko_kun
June 01, 2011, 10:48 AM
Wow Asclepius, i was doing this that you did! xD I'll search for the other volumes :))
waiting for the translation of the omake xD
Lomahongva
June 01, 2011, 12:50 PM
This is the most wonderful gift of the day!!!:lovebunny riki thank you!!! :hug
What a backcover!!!! I'm not sure of knowing a brilliant adjective to descrive it; it's so awesome... Apo looks more terrifiying than in the black/white chapters... And Tikky is more tanned but it makes him sexier. And there's Link,... he deserves it:tem.
The Order's main building (I think) as background...that makes it greater.
The omake... may be Allen has been charged for the damages in the Order... Waiting for tha translation:tem
Niko_kun
June 01, 2011, 01:32 PM
DGM 14: 596,850
DGM 10 was on 8th place in the top-selling manga in 2007.
I see all on anime news network =) *the others volumes wasn't there.*
Jaymie
June 01, 2011, 02:15 PM
In my opinion, Hoshino's back covers are better than the front covers.
And wow, very little purple on the back cover! Hoshino's purple copic must've dried out from all of the overuse.
fuff
June 01, 2011, 06:28 PM
this is the first time...i ve seen a bkac cover or mangas...the jap one at least what was the back cover for volume 20 and 21?
TitaniumChloride
June 01, 2011, 08:52 PM
Don't really have the time to do the translation of the omake atm, but the paper is basically one of those fortune-telling slips that tell you how your luck will be like in the future, as well as some comments/advice on some aspect of your life, e.g. love life, whether you'll find lost things or not, etc.
The one Allen got is bad (凶), but at least it's not the worst one you can get (which I think is 大凶).
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