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Robotic Red
February 01, 2007, 10:58 AM
Yo. Thought I'd try my hand at the comments for once. See how it turns out.

Well, first of all...I took a look at some of the discussion threads, and everyone's like "DUDEWTFOMGNARUTOSUCKAGE" or something to that effect.

Allow me to offer an alternative viewpoint.


NARUTO 340: "A Hazardous Bridge"


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CHAAAAAARGE!

1) Into Battle!

Ah, to see Naruto dive head-first into the conflict again. It tickles the heart.

Well, he is showing a bit more restraint with his Kage Bunshin. I remember in struggles with Kimimaro, Zabuza, and Sasuke that he went for Mass Shadow Clones and didn't do so well. Splitting up chakra too many ways is a no-no.

Though I wonder how long Naruto can keep that Rasen Shuriken going. I mean, he needed two clones to help formulate the Futon: Rasengan. So can he keep it going with one hand only?





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Seriously. How does he talk with those things in his mouth?

2) So that big thing hurts people, right?

So Yamato stops Chouji from interfering. Understandable, considering the destruction we witnessed from Naruto's "50% jutsu". And judging from the sounds they heard when the Rasen Shuriken formed in the last chapter, it's something to behold. Considering it's a shuriken, does it create a vortex when hitting a target? As in, a vortex that morphs into a tornado, thanks to the addition of wind to the cutting spiral? Think of it as a tornado of blades erupting within you upon contact. It'd certainly leave a mess. That's all I can say.

Kakuzu is trying to be cautious now. I wonder if he's wondering where Hidan is now...?





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Don't turn around!

3) Gotcha!

Naruto uses the Kage Bunshin as a distraction, and he manages to get behind Kakuzu for a final blow.

You have to wonder, seeing as how Naruto can feel and experience what his Kage Bunshin endure once they go 'poof', does he feel them "dying"? It's something to think about. I mean, there has to be more than a few reasons Kage Bunshin is a forbidden kinjutsu; perhaps it might have to do with what you feel when you "die"? Maybe that's why, all the way back in chapter 1, Naruto was laying on the ground, all beat-up-looking when Iruka found him. He had experienced the pain of a Kage Bunshin dying. Maybe Naruto's just gotten used to the feeling of dying...guess that's why he never holds back in battle. Or why he's always been a bit gung-ho. He knows what it's like to die.

Just a little food for thought. And here comes the blow...!





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*facefault*

4) D'OH!

And here it is. The moment that caused everyone to roar in anger and agony. :P

Honestly, I don't get the fuss. I can understand, seeing a desire to see Naruto overpower and demolish an enemy at least once. I personally think that's an endearing aspect of his character; he, the future Hokage, the "dead last" of his graduating class, having a jutsu go kaput on him. Not only is it funny (Come on, admit it!), but it speaks of how tremendously hard it is to control a Rasengan with Futon added in. I mean, it took three Narutos to create the Futon: Rasen Shuriken. And the Yondaime Hokage died before he himself could create Futon; Rasengan.

And if anyone remembers Ebisu's lesson from way back when (before Jiraiya), Naruto has horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE chakra control. How much that's changed is anyone's guess.





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That's right, you'd better run!

5) Yamato to the Rescue!

Ah, Mokuton jutsus. What would we do without you?

Yamato showcases his awesomeness yet again! It only points to how powerful the Shodai Hokage had been during his prime. Though I wonder, how did the battle between Kakuzu and the Shodai Hokage go? We've inferred that Kakuzu endurred quite a bit of damage, but did the Shodai get wounded at all? This only makes me more glad that Naruto's jutsu didn't hit just now; the idea of Naruto defeating a shinobi that had stood on equal grounds (maybe?) with just ONE move doesn't quite feel right. Not just yet, anyway. I mean, he became a ninja at 12...and he's, what, 15 now? Not quite long enough to start regularly beating down S-Class ninja with one blow. Yet. X3

Though you have to wonder if Kakuzu's thinking, "Where have I seen this before...?"




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*smacks Ino*
6) THAT Naruto again...

I'd like to direct Ino to this picture (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/UltraSonic007/1162821758927.jpg).

There. I said it. I mean, she hasn't even done anything in this battle! So shut up.

Anyhow, I like it when Naruto's face is drawn like that. It's "Classic" Naruto. He's still 15; I'm not gonna expect him to mature immediately. It'd be unrealistic. Though this brings to mind all the other times where Naruto was decried as the "dead last" in his younger days. Though Chouji raises a good point; why not throw the Rasen Shuriken? Though Yamato explains why he can't throw it, it'd be nice if he developed to where he COULD throw it. It just makes logical sense. So what if it brings the Destructo Disc to mind? Does Naruto LOOK bald to you?

But this provides a nice lead-in for this...




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Now if only we had background music...

7) Why He Fights

And a reminder of what Naruto's ultimate goal is: Hokage.

His is a spirit that never gives up. No matter how often he's put down, no matter how often he's underestimated, no matter how badly he gets beaten, he'll always stand back up. Because he'll achieve his dream, no matter how much pain he must endure. Akatsuki won't be able to stop him.

That's why I don't care if his jutsu didn't land. Because I know he's not going to stop fighting until he's physically incapacitated or dead.

In the end, Akatsuki won't stop him (hopefully). And neither will this guy.




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I wish I had cool backgrounds like that...

8) An Insurmountable Road Block? Or Just a Dangerous Bridge?

Uchiha Sasuke.

For Naruto to reach his goal, he'll have to first bring Sasuke back. That alone may be more of an impossible thing to achieve than beating Kakuzu, at the moment. Yet Naruto knows that it'll be a hard confrontation; that's why he's begging Kakashi and the others to let him fight. He has to reach his limits and surpass them; Kakuzu is that limit right now. In a way, Kakuzu is the roadblock to Sasuke; if Naruto can't beat Kakuzu, there's no way he'll be able to stop Sasuke (Yes, I think Sasuke, as he is now, is stronger than Kakuzu. Just sayin'.).

So kudos to Kakashi for letting him fight. In the next chapter or two, I think we'll see some payoff.



RATING: 4/5

I really liked this chapter. It strikes me as being true to Naruto's character; his jutsu going kaput is just another limit for him to get past.

So do your best Naruto!

manu
February 01, 2007, 11:13 AM
How about this, if someone fails to kill in real life they don't get a second chance (usually). How many oppurtunities has Naruto had to proove his worth? This chapter just reaffirmed my belief that Naruto doesn't have what it takes to become Hokage period. Shikamaru did have extra intelligence but its not like Naruto came unprepared. I'll agree with you on the part that this shows Naruto's true character and it strikes me one not fit to lead.

ttxdragon
February 01, 2007, 11:22 AM
This chapter just reaffirmed my belief that Naruto doesn't have what it takes to become Hokage period.

when do you believe that naruto becomes hokage? I guess not right away....
he needs most likely at least 5 more years for that task...
and he does have the qualities to lead when he is in a tight spot... he just needs to learn to use them when he isn't in such a situation...
i really liked this chapter, it was good and nice to see a jutsu fail because of the user and not because of the defending person. the one thing i did not like was to see sasukes face in there. although this time it wasn't - in my eyes - naruto that thought of sasuke, but kakashi.

nice review robotic red :D

Robotic Red
February 01, 2007, 11:25 AM
How about this, if someone fails to kill in real life they don't get a second chance (usually). How many oppurtunities has Naruto had to proove his worth? This chapter just reaffirmed my belief that Naruto doesn't have what it takes to become Hokage period. Shikamaru did have extra intelligence but its not like Naruto came unprepared. I'll agree with you on the part that this shows Naruto's true character and it strikes me one not fit to lead.


Like I said: a ninja for only three years.

manu
February 01, 2007, 11:35 AM
Kakashi was anbu in 3 years, I think... maybe that was Itachi... or possibly both. I just know that at his age both of them were anbu. Sai has a better chance of becoming anbu at this point >.> Hokage isn't determined by massive amounts of chakra. Also if Kishimoto plans to wrap up Naruto in a year or two (not the best source but I heard it was from a direct interview) then Naruto has to mature now. I don't disagree in the rating to much but I disagree with what your interpurting from the chapter. If that makes sense.

Robotic Red
February 01, 2007, 11:46 AM
Kakashi was anbu in 3 years, I think... maybe that was Itachi... or possibly both. I just know that at his age both of them were anbu. Sai has a better chance of becoming anbu at this point >.> Hokage isn't determined by massive amounts of chakra. Also if Kishimoto plans to wrap up Naruto in a year or two (not the best source but I heard it was from a direct interview) then Naruto has to mature now. I don't disagree in the rating to much but I disagree with what your interpurting from the chapter. If that makes sense.


It'd be kind of unfair to compare Naruto to Kakashi or Itachi; the former of which was the son of the White Fang and had the Fourth as a sensei, and the latter of which was an Uchiha.

Naruto? An orphan. And personally, I think that - aside from Iruka - the other instructors at the Ninja Academy would personally try and hold Naruto back (after all, Iruka and the Hokage were practically the only two people in Konoha who saw Naruto as a human instead of a demon; that his academic progress would be hindered wouldn't surprise me.).

manu
February 01, 2007, 11:53 AM
Kakashi saw his dad commit suicide in front of his eyes before he became a ninja, a little traumatizing don't you think? Heck Kakashi would make a wonderful Hokage in my opinion if he wasn't so crucial in battles and destined to die young (all great men are.)

Please don't take this as mindless arguing but I'd love to see how this chapter could reinforce the idea that Naruto can become Hokage. I'm pretty near-sighted and all I see is a failure.

Also Ino did what could have been the second most important thing for Shikamaru in his defeat of Hidan. She actually used ninja tatics @.@ Using what pathetic abilities she had she was able to scout them out without being detected All in all she did the most ninja thing so far for Shikamaru besides Kakashi's Raikiri from inside the tree.

qwan3356
February 01, 2007, 01:45 PM
Great commentary Robotic Red!

dimska
February 01, 2007, 02:01 PM
Very nice comments on a very controversial chap, Robotic Red! Makes me want to write a version of my own! Even though it will have to wait for tomorrow after a thermal hydraulics exam :-(

SilveryShadows
February 01, 2007, 04:23 PM
Nice comments.

The jutsu- It's disappointing to see it fail. All the drama/suspense/waiting/fuss about the jutsu and only to see it fail is a big disappointment. I'd preferred it miss, but not fail.
I liked last chapter more.

Of course I should've expected that. Both Akatsukis won't die. One's already... immobile. The other has to live to tell the tale.

Navid.
February 01, 2007, 04:50 PM
Great job (and sooo quick) on the comments Robotic Red :clap :)

Anyway let’s move on to discuss the issues that that this chapter has brought up:

I have to say I don’t feel in any way let down by having the Fuuton RasenShuriken (wow, that is a mouthful, I wouldn't want to say that every time I attacked someone :p), why didn’t I feel let down, well:

First of all lets not forget that this is a technique that is only 50% operational, and even though Naruto is the main character of this story I think it's great that the creator has enough courage to allow him to fail (I'm seriously bored with main characters who go from zero-hero in five seconds :eyeroll) in situations like this...

In my opinion what’s made most apparent out of showing all of these failures, is to show the one quality that in my opinion has convinced of Naruto being Kage material in my book, and that is his reluctance to give up, no matter the situation this guy will get back up and try again and again until he succeeds... :noworry

If I was disappointed with anything it is the pressure/expectation that is put on Naruto to use an unfinished technique within this fight, if he had stuck with using a normal Rassengan, well let’s just say Kakuzu would be left heartbroken... :smile-big

One last point which I have to agree with you on is Naruto’s use of his Kage-Bushins, I was very impressed that he managed to use three Bushins (instead of the 100s of Bushin :gorgy that didn’t do any good against people like Kimimaro) to create a opening in Kakuzu's (lets not forget who this guy is) defence... :thumbs

Overall, I thought it was a good chapter to bring the focus of the manga back to Naruto/Kakuzu after Shikimaru's little display of badassnes (to be honest I think this is the biggest reason why most people are left disappointed) in the fight against Hidan.


Overall I would give this chapter a solid 3.5/5 :)


Again I have to say great comments on the chapter, keep it up :thumbs

kadodo
February 01, 2007, 10:47 PM
I have to say at first I did not like the chapter mostly because Naruto failed the justsu but I know now why Kishimoto decided to do so. he wanted to make us remember that Naruto intends to surpass Sasuke and most of all become hokage.

Gold Knight
February 01, 2007, 11:29 PM
Wow, Robotic Red, we really did have the same impressions of the chapter. Heh.

Raseru
February 02, 2007, 02:53 AM
Thanks for the review, Robotic Red. It's nice to see that you've incorporated some humour into this. ^^

Keep up the good work! :D

Raine_Joybringer
February 04, 2007, 07:25 AM
^_^ I'm sorry I didn't get around to reading this sooner, Robotic Red! I didn't want to bias myself reading anyone else's comments before I did my own.

It seems that we had quite a few ideas in common though, and I'm glad to see you looked deeper into this chapter instead of just focussing on what went wrong. Well done! I hope I can see some more comments from you in the future too :3

juUnior
February 05, 2007, 01:57 PM
5) Yamato to the Rescue!

Ah, Mokuton jutsus. What would we do without you?

Defiently agree xDxD

Nice review, though ;p But after reading Gk's and Raine's, and then Yours as third, it queite bord me, so I will not quote anymore :x Furthermore, nice review as I said xD

Edit: Yes, but when I came to MH, there were already 3 reviews ;p

Robotic Red
February 05, 2007, 10:26 PM
Aw, you should have done it in chronological order. I was first this time. ;O

TIME IS EVERYTHING. ;)

Gold Knight
February 07, 2007, 01:51 PM
Haha.. it didn't help that we all had almost the same viewpoints I guess. But just for the record I liked your review RR.

Just a suggestion here to anybody who DOES feel differently about the chapter from us - feel free to do your own "viewpoint" review. It's probably too late this week, but just for future reference. Might be interesting.