Archetypes in One Piece

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So, it is a common concept in psychology as well as in literature, mostly the folk and myth orientated literature, the archetypes - the iconic everlasting images that lurk deep into our collective unconscious. I have seen them a lot in One Piece, for example:

The Hero - this archetype fits Luffy. However to a certain extent it also fits Roger and Ace. Though if we go further Ace is a more tragic hero. Usopp would be the hero that is still in his growth.

The wise old man - Many fit this as well: Whitebeard, Rayleigh even the Gorosei.

The Devil - almost all of the villains, most prominently Blackbeard, Lucci and Akainu.

The child - Chopper comes to mind first, then probably Sabo. Though this archetype is more complex I am sure regular children that Oda displays, such as some adults as children in flashbacks he is using this archetype.

The father - Shanks to Luffy, and Garp to Luffy, Whitebeard to his crew members.

The mother - Big Mom to her crew members.

The trickster - I do think that Law fits in with this, and to a less extent Buggy, Blackbeard may also come off as one. Foxy was certainly among these. This one is closely linked to the devil archetype.

The fool - Buggy is the perfect match. :D

The sage - Sengoku was a master planner and was pretty calm most of the time. kizaru is also close.

The lover - Sanji of course. :D

The explorer - most of the pirates.

What other archetypes have you seen in the series, and what other people fit the ones I have mentioned?

To me, the archetype of the mother is Bellemere. As you posted in that thread about the family in OP, she is a part of the background to construct the character of Nami. She is the most memorable mother of the story. I would put Big Mom as a devil archetype.

Nami would be more considered a mother than Big Mom, since she acts more like a mom to the crew. Nami's usually the sensible, logical one in her crew, at least if you don't count when money's involved.

Luffy could be considered more of an explorer though, as he truly wants to explore the seas. His definition of pirate king fits in with the explorer, to be free to roam the seas, if I recall. Dunno about other pirates, but as far as I know, Luffy fits the definition of explorer the best. Maybe Nami and Robin do as well, but Robin only cares about the poneglyphs. At least, she did.

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oh, and I'd consider Whitebeard to be the father because he's been considered father by more people than anyone else in the manga. Basically, his entire crew thinks of him as a father. Garp is Luffy's grandfather, and I'm not sure if Shanks is viewed as father or brother by Luffy.

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Originally Posted by M3J

I'm not sure if Shanks is viewed as father or brother by Luffy.

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Would make much more sense if they had a brotherly bond or viewed each other as such. Shanks appears too young to be seen as a father figure to Luffy. MOA

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Originally Posted by ukimix

To me, the archetype of the mother is Bellemere. As you posted in that thread about the family in OP, she is a part of the background to construct the character of Nami. She is the most memorable mother of the story. I would put Big Mom as a devil archetype.

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I agree, Nico Robin's mother might fit that as well. Though usually the mother archetype is someone that has a worldly significance as well as an individual one. Though mothers in One Piece are also common but a bit overshadowed by the fathers.

Kaido also may fit the Devil archetype.

You forgot one of the most used stereotypes: the lazy badass (Aokiji, stark, shikamaru, ... there are countless examples).

One Piece has far too many of these.. as TVtropes will tell you lol

What character is not an archetype? that is worth to be discussed too, and this thread could serve also that purpose.... Because a character with out archetype would be evidence of originality... I don't read gender bender manga, so I suppose maybe he is an archetype in that genre, but... I like so much Ivankov.

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Originally Posted by jaymizzo

Would make much more sense if they had a brotherly bond or viewed each other as such. Shanks appears too young to be seen as a father figure to Luffy. MOA

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I actually don't know why I said that, as I think Luffy sees Shanks as a brother. Not totally sure about father, but I agree with you.

All of the mugiwaras follow an archetype, some of the Omakes present them quiet well. On the mobile right now, so nothing specific from me.

You have forgotten the Pervert Archetype, or "Ero".
All top shows have them lmao.
Sanji, Brooke, Jiraiya, Kon, Gildarts etc.

You can't consider Sanji a perv though, he's too respectful to women. He's never asked to see panties or whatnot, if I recall. That was only Brook.

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Originally Posted by ukimix

To me, the archetype of the mother is Bellemere. As you posted in that thread about the family in OP, she is a part of the background to construct the character of Nami. She is the most memorable mother of the story. I would put Big Mom as a devil archetype.

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to me it's Dadan - the good one.
big mom is yet to be seen.

The devil would be Spandam imo
Explorer would be Roger imo.
The Wise would be Zoro's sensei, the hunter would be Smoker(or Sanji haha), the princess would be Hancock, the priest was Kuma, the fool is Doflamingo, the vampire is either mihawk or moriah, santa claus would be kureha, chopper is rudolph the bluenosed Tanuki(xD), the father is whitebeard,
and usopp is .... CAPTAIN USOPP-SAMA !!!

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Originally Posted by M3J

You can't consider Sanji a perv though, he's too respectful to women. He's never asked to see panties or whatnot, if I recall. That was only Brook.

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?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2571-...apter-464.html
Sanji's dream fruit was the Suke Suke Fruit.
He reveals his true intentions.
If this doesn't confirm Sanji is a pervert then...

A pervert can be a politically correct person. I can ask a woman to let me see her pants. If she says no, I will have to keep cultivating my pervert thoughts by myself. So Sanji is a pervert, not an abuser, who is a pervert that is disrespectful of other's regulations.